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I appreciate that. I feel pretty indifferent about whether there were women irl or not. I’m content with my porn addiction now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:59 PM
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I think I’m finally starting to reach full-blown apathy about life. I’m developing erectile dysfunction and I don’t even care. What difference does it make if I’m never gonna use that thing anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:53 PM
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If a man approaches for experience, he is very likely also genuinely interested. If anything, he may be more interested and just assumes you’d be out of his league or something, so he doesn’t expect it to go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:01 PM
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Well, low-tier men like me are. I admittedly don’t know about average or above average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:23 PM
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Yeah, I could admittedly see myself becoming a shitty partner. I’ve had so many years of rejection that I’d probably carry around a good amount of resentment and bitterness. Luckily for women, I will almost certainly never get a relationship anyway, so it’s all just thought exercises.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:22 PM
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A lot of people who fail at dating want to end their lives. It’s much more important to a lot of people than various other failures. If a career didn’t work out, I can always pick another one. If no woman wants to give me a chance, there is no consolation prize that makes up for it. For instance, I have a fairly fulfilling life outside of my relationship issues, yet I’m still quite depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:30 AM
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Maybe an average man can settle for someone less attractive. I wouldn’t know since I’m too bottom of the barrel for anyone. I have literally no choices lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:45 AM
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Men typically don’t have much choice in their dating options. We just have to take whatever we can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:39 AM
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She’s pretty attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:08 AM
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Catholics are fighting the good fight against hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:03 AM
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She had face pics on her old account. You missed your chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:01 AM
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I’m a solid 3/10 once you factor in things like my height and voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:59 AM
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Probably got him for posting “woe is me” content. I got suspended for a month for that too. Hope some time away from this shithole makes him feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:58 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/2i0nxe47zkjc1.jpeg?width=1422&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1994d2d14194182e820f964d4cf03502ecec2fba Wow, how you gonna do me like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:55 PM
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I think actions can be taken that aren’t just fucking us, but they’re mostly at the institutional level. I think there need to be mental health professionals who specialize in treating late virgin men. It’s a rare issue that most don’t understand, even in the field of mental health. Plus, I think legalized prostitution would at least be a band-aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:45 PM
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I resent that. 19-21 BMI guy even has his own catchphrase. Then there’s also the really hateful ones, whereas I’m in more of the permanently sad camp. You gotta get more invested in the lore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:35 PM
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I’ll count that as a victory. Self-pity is an inalienable part of my personality at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:32 PM
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You’re just too kind (ha made you feel sympathy for an *ncel). Let’s make that a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:30 PM
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Thank you, Lily. Too many people were being positive. I was looking to see if I had any haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:25 PM
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I think we haven’t interacted too much, if at all. Stay tuned for more of my daily whining sessions, and that number may go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:23 PM
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My autistic brain likes numbers though. Is that a 1? A 4?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:22 PM
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I wasn’t asking for anyone to fuck me out of pity lol. But umm, good to know, I guess. I just think people (usually women) should be more open to trying a date with someone even if they’re not immediately attracted. Sometimes attraction can build. If it doesn’t, then you don’t need to force anything to develop. But too many people nowadays won’t even give unattractive people (usually men) a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:20 PM
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Sometimes I almost want to just sink to being a bitter asshole too, but I think I’m just too hooked on pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:17 PM
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I appreciate that you’re sympathetic. That’s pretty rare, especially from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:09 PM
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I’m mildly curious: how annoying am I compared to the other *ncels you’ve interacted with? Let’s use a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the least annoying one you’ve ever met, and 10 being the most annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:08 PM
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Isn’t that just sympathy? I thought empathy was actually being able to relate to the experience. I guess you could say that empathy is being able to guess how it would feel to experience something, but that doesn’t seem authentic to me. I don’t like pretending to know how something feels if I haven’t experienced it. I will (typically) just try to feel sorry for the pain someone is experiencing, even if I don’t know what it’s like. It’s just harder with female loneliness, because it really is lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:31 AM
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There are guarantees to be plenty of people who could feel close to her romantically if she gave them a chance. It’s not easy, but the hardest first step is at least getting someone attracted to you in the first place, and women have that step cleared by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:23 AM
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Unironically yes. Women feel loneliness, so they can empathize with men over this. However, they do not experience the same severity of loneliness, so men cannot empathize back. Or at least, I can’t. I’m sure it sucks, but I won’t pretend to know what it’s like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:21 AM
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What does not having anyone have to do with attraction??? Are you kidding me right now? Please tell me you’re just fucking with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:15 AM
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Didn’t say it was invalid. Said I couldn’t relate. I stand by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:11 AM
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I think we’re being overly technical at this point lol. Like, yeah I saw a woman’s titties, back when my mother was breastfeeding me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:10 AM
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Then why the fuck are the lyrics about having nobody to kiss, nobody near her, literally just repeating nobody over and over?? She doesn’t mean “nobody”. She means “no Chad.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:09 AM
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That’s fair. I imagine I’d probably be similarly annoyed by that stuff. But I at least understand that they used to feel that way, so they know a bit about what it’s like. A woman writing about what it’s like for no one to want her is a bit like me writing about what it’s like to be an astronaut. Pure speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:06 AM
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I’m sorry to hear that. You’d be surprised how many people are more similar to you than you think though. I’m into really weird, niche stuff, but even I still find out about shared beliefs and interests now and then. My loneliness stems from knowing that I have absolutely no romantic/sexual value to women. Not just pretty women or even average women, but even similarly unattractive women want nothing to do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:00 AM
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I’m pretty sure she’s private about that, so any answers are probably Twitterheads speculating (but I could be wrong about that). But if she is lesbian or bisexual, then I’m slightly more sympathetic. It is definitely possible that no women are into her, since women are usually the ones with crazy standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:57 AM
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It does make me unable to relate to the feeling though. It’s a little disingenuous though for the songs to also act like there’s no one out there into them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:56 AM
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You are allowed to feel lonely. I just will not be able to relate to your loneliness at all. I’d kill to feel desirable to somebody, even if I don’t like them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:46 AM
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That was actually what prompted this comment lol. I heard her song called “Nobody” and it annoyed the hell out of me. Like, why is it becoming a fad for women to pretend no one is into them? Why do women want to larp as *ncels so badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:41 AM
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Absolutely not me_irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:40 AM
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That’s a different difficulty then. That’s music about an ex, so no way I’m relating to that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:37 AM
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It’s hard to listen to songs about loneliness by female artists now, since I know they’re really just about how they can’t get some Chad’s attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:34 AM
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I agree. I should have clarified that my comment is more in reference to comment history trend, rather than this particular comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:30 PM
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Fair enough, I won’t prod any further then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:17 PM
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I dunno, Inject seems particularly fixated on it, and I wonder if it’s hinting at some deeper underlying pain. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not supporting obesity or anything, but I think there’s more to this, is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:17 PM
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I guess I was just curious if there was a deeper underlying reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:15 PM
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I’m curious, where did your extreme disdain for fat people come from? Were your parents extremely critical of your weight? It seems like it’s probably connected to body dysmorphia in some way, but I’m no psychologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:12 PM
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Yeah, I know what you mean, man. It sucks, and it’s hard to make the sadness go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:09 PM
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If you’re looking for me to do anything other than wallow in self-pity, then you’re on the wrong sub. I don’t particularly like Reddit, so I only really use it to vent, whine, and moan about my issues anonymously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:46 PM
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as long as he’s not complaining 24/7 Does that mean you won’t be my adoptive mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:40 PM
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Would you prefer if o said the average woman from 20-30 then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:16 PM
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As I said, I work in a college town, so I don’t really even encounter older women much except when I go for groceries. Might be closer to 50% when I pass by a bunch of homeless people, but even then the only reason I wouldn’t date a homeless person is because the power dynamic might make it unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:08 PM
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I don’t mind anyone who is below 300 pounds or so, and considering the average even in America for women is only around 170 pounds or so, that doesn’t seem too restrictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:51 PM
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Oh hey, that’s basically me! So uh, how you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:55 AM
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I’m aware this doesn’t represent most men. I’m mostly doing this for fun, but also so that I have a specific number the next time someone wants to claim that I’m also not giving the average woman a chance. The women getting messaged less still get far more messages than their male counterparts. Maybe the relative amount isn’t as much, but the point is that there are still men going after them. Meanwhile, the unattractive men don’t get any attention. People try to act like things are always symme…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:49 AM
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I fully agree. I’m not the one who thinks men and women act the same. It’s all the inane comments here which seem to believe this. That men are really just overlooking all the average, plump girls who want love. My point is that we’re not, because men are more willing to give their looksmatch a chance than a woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:26 AM
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Did you have options? I don’t, which is the main reason why I have to resort to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:41 AM
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I try to see the good in most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:41 AM
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That’s fine. I don’t want to associate with superficial people anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:39 AM
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This is exactly what women do here all the time. “No no, what you encounter irl doesn’t represent most women. I do though.” Don’t listen to me then. There’s that OKCupid study about men rating women on a bell curve, whereas women only rated around 20% above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:35 AM
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One random guy having unrealistic standards is not really indicative of how most men feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:24 AM
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Yeah, as is typical, it’s mostly just women projecting their own shortcomings onto men. Like they don’t want to ever admit there’s anything uncharitable that women do which men are not guilty of.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:17 AM
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There’s that infamous OKCupid study where men’s attraction followed a bell curve, whereas women only found around 20% or so of the men to be above average. It would be interesting to see if this informal experiment mimicked those findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:16 AM
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I would be willing to go on a date with any of the 80% or so of women that I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:13 AM
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There are lots of girls who are overweight but still manage to look pretty cute. Despite all the men moaning about fat women on this sub, I think irl most men don’t mind them so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:12 AM
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Isn’t there a statistic that male virgins outnumber female virgins? I think women are actually having more sex than men in that more of them have had it at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:02 AM
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I’m kind of annoyed by all the women here projecting that men “also only think about Stacies” or “don’t notice the average woman.” I do some people watching when I’m bored, and I can confidently say I’m probably attracted to at least 80% of the women I see. (Tbf I work at a university with younger women, so it’s probably more skewed than if it were a place with loads of 40+ women.) Like, I’m tempted to literally do an experiment where I tally how many of the random women I see that I find attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:00 AM
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Delusional levels of cope to think that someone with that much status would still be unable to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:57 AM
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These responses are so cathartic to read. I feel like I’m losing my damn mind whenever the users on the virgin sub act like you’re some heinous villain for a white lie about experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:55 AM
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The pro strat is to have a friend with a membership so that you don’t have to spend extra money, but you can still go there once in a while for some shopping or their pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:53 AM
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That was the most recent example that reminded me of this trend, but I’m pretty sure this has happened several times in the past on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:41 PM
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Anyone else find it funny that people here make fun of how nobody ever comes with facts and research to back their beliefs, but then the second somebody does put in effort into this shitpost of a sub, the comments basically just call him a nerd lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:27 PM
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Unfathomably based. Couldn’t have put it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:21 PM
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Well, that is pretty depressing. I should check with my little sister to see if she’s seen that symbol yet, since she’s also 12
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:36 AM
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I kind of wish we did not have a hardwired desire as humans to be aroused by the thought of these things. On the one hand, bringing a human life into the world is a serious responsibility and should be treated as such. And on the other, I can’t help but daydream about mindlessly having loads of babies with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:35 AM
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How old is your brother? I need to know whether I need to weep over the state of education again today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:22 AM
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I thought we talked about this already, but I’m a PhD student. I get paid as a teaching assistant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:38 PM
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I have a pretty creative imagination, but it has its limits. The thought of imagining not one, but two women interested in me is too absurd even for a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:03 PM
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I think you have poor reading comprehension skills. I wasn’t making the comparison between Anthony and Brian; I was making the comparison between Brian and myself. Additionally, grad school is not like undergrad. I suspect you’ve never been to grad school if you’re making this comparison in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:02 PM
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I love my work, but man is it possibly one of the worst jobs for my dating prospects. I’m insanely busy all the time, so I don’t have the time to constantly be going out or improving myself to get a woman’s interest. But unlike other jobs that keep one extremely busy, I don’t even make much money either, so I can’t even go the sugar daddy route. It’s the worst of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:41 PM
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Both would reject me, so I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:37 PM
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It seems like the only substantial differences between me and Brian then are that I make significantly less and am much shorter, so I suppose this just confirms some suspicions I had. The main things women look for are money and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:34 PM
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No, I’m not much younger; I’m 26. I had a gap between undergrad and postgrad, plus it takes a long time to write a PhD thesis. But you are right that I do make significantly less money than Brian. Being a grad student doesn’t pay much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:26 PM
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A bit of clarification: I am not literally Brian. I’m just close to that age, in a STEM field, and unfortunately substantially shorter (5’5). But I think I get your point. I’m a PhD student, and the parties I go to are usually hosted by other grad students in my department. They’re not the sort of crazy, wild venues one might imagine of a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:17 PM
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That question is kind of vague, but I’d say I do. I’ve gone to parties and bars and try to interact with people a decent amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:13 PM
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So many women claiming they’d go for Brian, yet I’m basically Brian irl with absolutely no women interested in me 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:08 PM
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Sex is something porn companies invented to cater to men. Think about it, have you ever seen sex irl? Wake up, sheeple!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:04 PM
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Be for real, most people of either sex who hate the opposite gender probably only do so because they’re terminally online and need to actually interact more with the opposite sex to be reminded of their humanity. This includes myself tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:01 PM
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I’m more interested in normal boring activities :) Maybe I should buy some cocaine :(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:05 AM
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It’s not an uncommon phenomenon. *ncels do it all the time. They’ll say something misogynistic and if they’re called out on it, retroactively decide that it was just a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:06 PM
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Almost. More like “I have a bad take that I want to get across, but I need to disguise it as a joke so people don’t think I’m out of my mind.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:58 PM
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I’ve seen this argument before and it’s pretty stupid. Is the comparison you’re trying to make implying that women are not attracted to men either? That seems an awful lot like you’re saying women are Chadsexual, literally only attracted to above average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:49 PM
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Bitterness doesn’t mean they’re femcels. It just means they’re misandrist. The point is that they still have plenty of men find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:56 AM
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Daily reminder that femcels don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:39 AM
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Some times it just hits me that there are men out there whom women actually desire and form crushes on. It’s just never me. I can’t even imagine what it would be like for a woman to find me genuinely hot. Cute perhaps, in the same way a dog or a baby can be cute, but not somebody she would have any sexual interest in. I just wasn’t born the right way for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:44 AM
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I’m just a grad student with teaching responsibilities if that makes you feel any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:12 AM
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Holy shit, these comments are hilarious. Hoes mad, for some reason. This is seriously the most entertaining post I’ve seen on this sub in ages, so thank you OP. I had no idea how many scientifically illiterate people were on this sub, though I’m not at all surprised by how many do not want you spreading truth when it goes against their narrative in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:32 AM
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Holy shit, these comments are hilarious. Hoes mad, for some reason. This is seriously the most entertaining post I’ve seen on this sub in ages, so thank you OP. I had no idea how many scientifically illiterate people were on this sub, though I’m not at all surprised by how many do not want you spreading truth when it goes against their narrative in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:30 AM
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I think it’s a better idea to post your face on a throwaway imo, on some other subreddit though. That’s what I did at least. There’s not much to lose really if it’s a throwaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:26 AM
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Oh lol I was thinking elementary school during the first paragraph. That’s pretty bad for middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:25 AM
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I think God saw how sad I was going to be spending Valentine’s alone yet again, so he gave me way too much work to keep me busy this whole time. (I’m so tired of grading. This is a call for help.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:31 AM
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Dawn of the Final Day 24 hours remain
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:33 PM
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I’m going through another phase of bitterness toward women. I know I don’t have a legitimate reason; I’m just hurt by the loneliness. And I’m pissed that none of them wants me, whether it’s justified or not. I think it might just be stress making me irritable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:50 AM
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Tfw no one’s been attracted to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:27 AM
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The thing I don’t get is that women have plenty of disadvantages in other areas of life. I don’t get why so many will refuse to acknowledge this one area where they actually have privilege. Like, if you want men to acknowledge their privileges more often, maybe a decent idea would be to acknowledge your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:22 AM
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I’m in math specifically, but maybe it’s different in the sciences or engineering for all I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:25 AM
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I agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:45 AM
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I guess their rationale is that if women aren’t empathetic to their issues (our issues?), then they don’t feel the need to be empathetic to theirs. I don’t know, I’m probably not in a good headspace to be answering this. I’ve been feeling pretty bitter again lately, so I feel like I’ll say something stupid out of anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:24 AM
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Absolutely not my experience. Most of the men in my grad department are single. Maybe they’ve gotten laid—I don’t ask if they’re virgins lol—but they definitely aren’t in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:50 AM
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I strongly disagree lol. Most of the graduate math department at my university is single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:49 AM
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Do you? Genuine question, because you ask a lot of questions here that seem to suggest you have a difficult time empathizing with other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:43 AM
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Tbf a lot of truecels develop that awful hatred after being unwanted and neglected, not the other way around. I’m not excusing it, but I think it’s disingenuous to act like it’s the cause rather than the effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:20 PM
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Wait, I must be doing something wrong. I thought we were supposed to be depressed every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:12 PM
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Just grow taller!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:10 PM
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You say that as if there is any European country with a positive opinion of Americans these days lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:49 PM
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I almost always fall for anyone who shows me attention, so I’d probably still be attracted to this hypothetical woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:47 PM
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Dang, I missed the drama. But I think I know who this probably was. Was he complaining about people not like him/other incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:44 PM
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You live in the EU and you watch the Super Bowl? Are you an expat or some kind of Americaboo?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:36 PM
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they sold your data babe https://preview.redd.it/ejf6t7e8k1ic1.jpeg?width=254&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0acedc6a2b97d06977ab48336b6e50666762e136
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:33 PM
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My, as well as most unattractive men’s, experience contradicts this. That’s why it’s funny; it’s absurd. No woman has ever valued me as a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:31 PM
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Preselection in action. Woman who likes a man whom other women like. Shocking stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:47 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:43 AM
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I like coming here on the weekends, because you know only us true losers are here. The normans are all out at clubs or having sex or some other cringe bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:43 AM
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Tfw no gf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:06 AM
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How many L’s before it’s reasonable to conclude it’s a waste of time? 20? 100? 1000?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:57 AM
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Why aren’t you willing to have sex with your boyfriend’s clone irl? Actually, would it still be cheating if you fucked his clone? It’s still him, in every single way, even though it’s not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:52 AM
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As someone on the other side (kind of, still just a grad student, but one day a prof), I kind of have this fantasy too, but I definitely would never act on it. I do think it would be fun to do cheesy roleplay with a non-student partner though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:51 AM
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My mood at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:49 AM
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Those women don’t want us either. It’s depressing seeing any kind of woman and knowing she’d never give you the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:47 AM
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Oh shit, I didn’t know you were in law school. The Saul Goodman username makes sense now. I hope you can make shit tons of money and at least attract some gold diggers. Sounds like it would be better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:50 PM
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I have so much Internet brain rot that I read that in Peter Griffin’s voice, based on that one meme format.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:47 PM
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Byzantine empress Irene ended iconoclasm, which was pretty based. Destruction of religious art is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:41 PM
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Lmao I don’t think anyone would believe a woman complaining about not being able to get a single person interested in sleeping with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:42 AM
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It’s the only reason I use this sub, so I’ll just keep trying to get away with it until the law catches up with me lol. If you ever see me disappear, you’ll know what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:01 AM
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I’m always surprised by how many people respond to my vents on here. I’ll be sad if/when I inevitably get banned for sadposting too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:23 AM
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Lots of redhead haters here today smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:17 PM
2

It would have been a travesty if some rando on the Internet didn’t find you hot. Phew, crisis averted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:59 PM
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Join the “blondes are overrated” gang.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:41 PM
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Don’t worry, there are still loads of brunettes I think are hot. These are just relative rankings. And honestly I might have switched blonde and brunette.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:40 PM
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Sounds like something a brunette would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:09 PM
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I’m bored, so here is my controversial hair color ranking (for women); Red/orange > black > blonde > brunette
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:45 PM
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Slow down, cowboy. At least take me to dinner first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:09 AM
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I am actually convinced that this is a bit at this point. If so, well done, because you’ve developed a catchphrase more iconic than most television writers can come up with. I genuinely chuckle every time I see the 19-21 BMI line drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:06 AM
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My experience as well. 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:02 AM
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Hopefully my existence can demonstrate that not all of us virgins are complete losers who don’t even try in life. I do pretty okay at most things that don’t involve sex. The unfortunate thing is that, even if the rest of my life is fulfilling, this gaping hole still makes me pretty depressed. (I was also going to make a joke about giving you a heads-up before going postal so that you could have an inside scoop, but I have a bad feeling that would’ve been taken seriously and gotten me banned or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:10 AM
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I’m glad to hear you (hopefully) have a healthier work-life balance. I do admire your work ethic though. I’ve been pretty burnt out lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:55 AM
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Are you still struggling with sleep deprivation? I know you work like a dog, so that probably doesn’t make it any easier. Yeah, I think looking at the physical health effects is a good way to get an objective sense of a problem. The issue with discussing emotional issues is that it’s hard to describe the pain in a universal way that everyone can understand. But things like dying earlier? That’s something most people get. Anyway, thank you for being a virgin ally lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:49 AM
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I’ve been hearing a lot of people suggest that lately, so I definitely think I’ll give it a go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:44 AM
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Thanks, I appreciate it. I do think therapy can be helpful too, but there’s only so much it can do when the cards are stacked against you from birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:43 AM
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I’m coping a bit with the muscles bit to be fair. I just have really low testosterone (which causes some of the other issues), so it’s harder but probably still possible. I just got pretty discouraged after making essentially no progress after five months of going to the gym 4-5 days a week. Alone, none of my problems would be death sentences. It’s the fact that I have all these negative attributes at once that doomed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:33 AM
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Damn, that sucks. I’d be so sexually frustrated. One of the blessings of having few women in math is that I think I only had three female professors, and they were all pretty old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:30 AM
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Thank you for explaining this so well. I couldn’t be bothered lol. You’re probably the only non-virgin here who actually gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:27 AM
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I thought most men were tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:23 AM
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5’5
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:22 AM
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I’m 5’5. I have been practicing with talking to people for a while, but the progress is slow. I didn’t even learn how to make friends until just a year ago, more or less. And it’s less that I’m into girly things (I wish I were, as that might make it easier to chat to women), but more so that I can’t grow facial hair, have a high-pitched voice, and can’t put on muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:22 AM
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Yeah, I’m working on a PhD now, which doesn’t leave much time for self-growth or discovery. I try to push myself out of my comfort zone whenever I can, but realistically I likely won’t ever have enough time to completely overhaul my personality and lifestyle to the point where women would be interested. If you’re short, awkward, and low testosterone, then it’s such an uphill battle to even get a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:18 AM
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Thank you for your honesty. You should tell that to all the people coping by saying it doesn’t matter lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:14 AM
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I’m sorry, man. It’s rough out there, and I hope you can find some success in spite of everything that may be working against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:12 AM
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I think yours is the only advice so far that has actually resonated with me. Specifically the second paragraph. I’m trying to learn to let go now, since I’ve come to accept that it’s not going to happen. It’s hard to overcome the bitterness, but I think taking my religion more seriously has helped somewhat with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:11 AM
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I can tell by your wording that you’re not asking in good faith, so I’m not engaging in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:07 AM
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If anything, I’d be more ashamed to presume to know more than someone who has directly experienced prolonged loneliness. For the record, I have been through therapy and still am in therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:06 AM
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Short, unmasculine, awkward, unfunny, inexperienced, unattractive, probably more that I don’t know about. Also I don’t meet any single women at any of the locations I go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:03 AM
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Short, unmasculine, awkward, unfunny, inexperienced, unattractive, probably more that I don’t know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:59 AM
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You underestimate my virginity powers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:48 AM
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Well, I’ll just say that a trained professional probed me for a while trying to understand where it came from, and he didn’t really get anywhere. The only real factor we came up with is that I don’t really talk to my family much about my emotions, but plenty of people struggle with emotional vulnerability and still get laid. I think some people just don’t mind being alone too much, while others do. Most of the people I’ve come across online who are virgins are absolutely miserable about it. Hell…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:47 AM
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Nah, I’m only 26. But honestly I’ve just given up at this point. Every once in a while I get a burst of motivation, but reality catches up to me before long. Unfortunately, drinking doesn’t really loosen me up much. For a while I assumed I just wasn’t drinking enough, and that led to some very risky behavior. I’ve just accepted that I don’t really get liquid courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:42 AM
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Maybe you could try to convince women you’re Kevin Costner? How old are you by the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:39 AM
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“…In reality have some form of childhood trauma” My therapist kept trying to go for that angle for a while too. But I had a really happy childhood, and honestly couldn’t have asked for a better upbringing. I recognize that I’m privileged in a number of ways (just the other day I felt really thankful that I have working legs, for instance), and a good childhood is one of them. I don’t think I really have much that’s weighing me down besides this failure to meet any woman’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:36 AM
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But my bedtime is 10pm! Jokes aside, I do horrible in clubs. I don’t think that’s a viable strategy for me. My voice is too soft to be heard above the music, and I’m too socially anxious for it still. Might be years before I get to the point where I can succeed in a club setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:32 AM
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Why stop jerking off if women wouldn’t want him anyway? Jerking off is a good cope imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:29 AM
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What is an older virgin (25+) even supposed to do? I feel like once one reaches that point, even if he did magically land a girlfriend, the scars of the years of rejection would be too much to overcome. I don’t even know if I could love someone at this point. I’ve gotten too used to being alone, too addicted to porn, to bitter over rejection, too depressed, etc. All I ever wanted was a relationship, but I think at this point I think a hookup would be more appropriate. I’m too broken for an actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:25 AM
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The brutal part is even the unattractive women here still have infinitely more choosing power than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:14 AM
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You can choose me. I don’t care about BMI.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:11 AM
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If you have truly given the sort of thing I was talking about a chance, then you are not the sort of person I am shaming. You have done more than what a lot of people are willing to do these days, and that is commendable. You tried it, and it didn’t work out, and that’s all one can do. However, I ask that you also recognize that your experiences are not universal. There is data to support that a lot of people (men and women if I recall) can develop attraction to a person the more they get to kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:22 PM
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I’m sorry, but this is practically a non-sequitur. Women being afraid of rape and murder from a significant other would just make them less likely to engage in relationships altogether, not only engage in relationships with high-status or attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:48 PM
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Sure I can. If someone is drowning and people just stare and watch, then I will be pretty upset by their inaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:46 PM
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You could give it a shot and see if attraction develops. Men already often have to do the same, especially when we’re unattractive ourselves and can’t reasonably expect to get with someone we feel strong attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:45 PM
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When a guy says someone is mid, it’s more of an indication of how he feels about her personally, not her objective level of beauty. In your defense though, I think the point of the original comment bringing up Taylor Swift was asking for an objective rating. Mine would probably be a 7 or 8 out of 10. She’s hot, and well out of my league, but once again it’s nothing extraordinary. Loads of women I see are around that level of beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:44 PM
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When a guy says someone is mid, it’s more of an indication of how he feels about her personally, not her objective level of beauty. In your defense though, I think the point of the original comment bringing up Taylor Swift was asking for an objective rating. Mine would probably be a 7 or 8 out of 10. She’s hot, and well out of my league, but once again it’s nothing extraordinary. Loads of women I see are around that level of beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:44 PM
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I am aware that arousal is involuntary. It’s what you do with the arousal that matters. You can only pine after tall, wealthy, attractive men, or you can give unnoticed, lower status men a chance. You are free to make that choice, and I am free to judge you for your decision. And as I said in a different post, I don’t really expect that shaming will change women’s behavior on this either. But I do believe there should be some guilt and recognition of the consequences of these actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:41 PM
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And you seem to miss the point every time this conversation comes up. No one here is doubting Taylor Swift’s adherence to conventional beauty standards. She is conventionally attractive, plain and simple. But there are two important caveats. One, that doesn’t mean she is everyone’s personal preference. And hell, even if she’s not, the baseline attractiveness is still more than enough for any guy here to want to be with her. Two, there are loads of women all over the world whom we find to be simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:38 PM
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Because collectively your standards are too high, leaving plenty of men without an ability to feel intimacy or romantic connection. It doesn’t really matter if it’s “normal” or not. In some cultures it’s normal to abuse your wife; that doesn’t make it okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:32 PM
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That’s just semantics. Ugly women are being approached on dating apps, or pursued if you’d like to use that word instead. Either way, it’s still showing that men are less picky, as ugly men are absolutely not finding any success on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:25 PM
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Nah, I criticize people if their actions harm others. Women’s actions are harming men. Can shame change their actions? Probably not, but they shouldn’t feel completely guilt-free about this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:24 PM
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It might be a good idea to start working now though so that you have some money saved up for when you do have to live in an apartment. I do miss my meal plan days though. I can’t cook to save my life, so it was nice to have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:21 PM
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Well most people get into relationships. How else would these unattractive women get boyfriends if a man didn’t approach them at some point? And yes, men generally are super un-picky, especially the men who are unattractive themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:17 PM
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Fully agree. I think women get offended over this because they get much more attracted to people based on status, so they expect men to feel that way too. But no, I’m not any more attracted to Taylor Swift than I am any other thin blonde woman. She’s attractive, but I see dozens of women just as attractive every day while I’m walking around town.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:11 PM
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How do you afford rent and food and such then? I’m assuming you have scholarships to afford tuition at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:09 PM
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How do people still believe this nonsense? This false equivalence has been thoroughly debunked already. Most studies show that while women only find a small handful of men physically attractive, men find most women physically attractive. These are not the same. If they were, there would be an epidemic of lonely women who don’t get pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:08 PM
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I’m not going to threaten rape or violence in retaliation because that’s awful and never warranted. But I will definitely continue to shame women for this. They are responsible for keeping a lot of men single and unhappy. You can’t pretend it’s not their choices that are directly causing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:03 PM
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He’ll move on and have a new girlfriend eventually. And I’ll still be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:09 AM
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He was venting about how she broke up with him, but I’d much rather be in that situation than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:39 AM
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On here? People are always up in arms about those kinds of comments. I don’t know which posts you’re looking at. And I’d be pretty uncomfortable if a guy talked about his dick in front of me, and I am a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:31 AM
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It’s much less about the biological perspective and more about the emotional damage of being this far behind in my development as a person. Kids a decade younger than I have more experience. I don’t even feel like a human being sometimes because of this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:29 AM
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Man, some fucking high schooler was talking to me about his relationship problems the other day. I have less experience than kids a decade fucking younger than I. This is so painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:27 AM
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It’s a rough day for me to be a 26 year old virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:26 AM
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I agree that male gaze is ubiquitous, but it’s paradoxically also shamed. If anything, it’s used as a means to prey on horny men by enticing them to consume a given product. But that doesn’t change the fact that anytime a man expresses a desire for sex, a desire reinforced by the constant bombardment of material prodding at his instincts, then he’s vilified as a pig. When was the last time you seriously heard a man say he didn’t care about getting to know a woman and just wanted to fuck her with…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:14 AM
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Thanks for the reminder of how far behind I am, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:06 AM
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I’m 26. I know it’s not that old, but I’m not really that young anymore either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:00 PM
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Fuck, I’m getting older and I’m still maidenless. Getting older is already depressing enough, but it’s even worse when you have to deal with the fact that your youth was wasted and it’ll soon be gone forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:31 AM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:29 AM
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Because saying things like “I’m into nerds” gives nerds false hope, and it’s kind of malicious imo. Most nerds are likely not going to meet her looks requirement, so the fact that she’s into nerds is frankly irrelevant. If it makes you feel better, I’ve seen the same thing happen to men on here. They’ll say they’re into a certain type of woman, and some bitter woman will reply “Yeah, but only if she’s thin!!” So it goes both ways. I don’t have looks requirements because I can’t afford to have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:48 PM
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It would be disingenuous if she said she were only attracted to hot men, yeah. Because really she means “hot and nerdy.” I think a lot of men end up thinking they have chances since our preferences are typically “at least one, but more is good.” Whereas women’s preferences/requirements are apparently “all of the above.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:44 PM
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Sure, but then it’s a little disingenuous to say you’re into nerds when the good looking part is still a strong prerequisite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:53 PM
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Nerds or chads with glasses?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:36 PM
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You’ve been in a relationship with your new girlfriend You already lost me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:35 PM
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I think this is missing my original intent. I’m not specifically looking for women with my extremely niche interests. I’m just saying that I don’t really encounter many women in these areas either because they’re so male-dominated. And they definitely are male-dominated. There are loads of women with history degrees, but in my experience their interests tend to be more modern history (1800 and beyond). In general, I would say this is the period of history that most casual history buffs are reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:45 PM
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My interests are all pretty much borderline autistic special interests that are extremely niche. The only other people into them would be autistic, and I’m pretty sure autistic men outnumber autistic women. Copied from another comment: Reading/learning about medieval history, video games with like 90% male player bases, and I’ve recently gotten into competitive Pokemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:00 PM
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Reading/learning about medieval history, video games with like 90% male player bases, and I’ve recently gotten into competitive Pokemon. I’m trying to force myself to get into more normal stuff that takes me outside like rock climbing, but I don’t genuinely enjoy that stuff as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:57 PM
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Time to pretend to be interested in something for the sake of getting with women. That sounds like it could backfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:45 PM
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I don’t even have social media since I used to not even really have friends. Maybe that’s holding me back, but I’m so far behind with it now. I don’t even know what the kids use these days. Instagram? I’m not hot enough for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:43 PM
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Does that mean the pegging offer still stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:42 PM
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Apparently not. I’ve gone to parties and bars before though, and I never have any luck there either. I think I’d need to be more outgoing for anything like that to work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:41 PM
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Egg theory is cope. Take the stork pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:35 PM
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I have not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:29 PM
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no women in my line of work no women with my interests no women in my church no female friends of my friends I never even had a chance. Do women even exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:28 PM
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Yes, because these women would rather be single than date someone in their league. If unattractive women weren’t so picky, there would be far fewer lonely men in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:21 AM
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Fair enough. I guess they’re more likely to post about it on the two X chromosomes subreddit afterward. Either way, chances of success are still slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:30 PM
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I got rated as a 4/10 by somebody before, so not too ugly, but not really attractive enough for women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:05 PM
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And they’re also the type to complain to the employees that a man was “harassing” them if you bother to try to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:04 PM
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I will feel neither of those things since I’m not a woman. I’ll feel a bit better about myself since someone finally found me attractive enough to fuck, even if it’s just to use my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:43 PM
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Hmm, I’m not into pegging, but I’m pretty desperate. Sure, why not. As long as you cuddle me afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:30 PM
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I was gonna judge her, but tbh I’ve done really stupid things while being super tired in the morning as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:28 PM
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I wish everyone who did not have sex last week a very pleasant morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:20 PM
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Oh, I didn’t know you had experience being an ugly man. Tell me more about what it’s like to be me. At any rate, I don’t personally experience much hatred irl. I just mean that we are vilified as a group, particularly online. Additionally, when we try to find ways to fix things, people still just tell us that anything we try to do is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:05 AM
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I feel like this is a little jaded of a response. I fully agree that the people who care the most about any given issue are just those affected by it. Like, I definitely don’t get as invested into black rights as much as a black person would, but I still generally care when they face injustice. And granted, I understand that the issues they face far surpass that of virgins. But still, my point is just that I don’t think you need to be the in-group to give a damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:46 PM
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I’m 26 and I’m still not used to it, man. But I know what you mean; I’ve been aware of it for a while. It just sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:37 PM
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Then why do we selectively not care about it when it affects unattractive men? I know a lot of people call attention to similar dilemmas for, say, women. As an example, I often hear, “If you have sex with men, then you’re a slut. But if you don’t have sex with men, then you’re a prude who forces men to be lonely.” A very similar dilemma, and people justly get upset about this. But when this sort of thing for men gets presented, it’s brushed under the rug and the only response is, “yeah lots of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:37 PM
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lol that’s true. I try to remind myself that dating isn’t about your overall worth as a person; it’s just an assessment of the particular set of traits women desire in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:33 PM
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Exactly this. That’s another perfect set of examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:30 PM
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That’s depressing. Imagine being a young, average man and needing to look forward to be second choice. All while your Chad peers get intimacy for free immediately. Dating is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:28 PM
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Ever notice how people just hate sexually unsuccessful men no matter what they do? If we ask out tons of women, then we’re creepy sex pests. If we don’t ask women out, then we’re too shy and obviously we can’t expect to find a woman if we don’t try. If we hold out for someone we find attractive, then our standards are too high and we need to be more realistic. If we give up and try to settle for someone, then you get the explosion of angry comments like on that thread from the other day calling …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:22 PM
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Very cool. Everything I said still holds true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:18 PM
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When I was in my teens to early twenties, my lack of success was explained by “women tend to prefer older, experienced men.” Now that I’m in my late twenties and into early thirties, my lack of success is explained by “women tend to be attracted to men their own age, who are in their prime.” Kind of funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:06 PM
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Have you spent time with women Aside from friends, no. That’s kind of the whole point of my comment. People who have actually been chosen at some point are speculating here just as much as I am. I don’t really know what it’s like to only be with a woman who tolerates me, and I’d wager none of the people who responded really know what it’s like to be unwanted for your entire life (and no, a 3 year dry spell is not basically the same thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:03 PM
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I feel like my hands look basically the same as women’s hands, minus the fingernails.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:56 PM
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Question for women: what kinds of hands are attractive for men? What are some common g features that make hands into sexy hands? I need another insecurity to add to my collection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:16 AM
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This is so hard for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely feel like it would be more depressing to keep waking up every day alone, rather than beside someone who at least tolerates me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:09 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:00 PM
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Most would. We don’t have any standards. I used to DM a bunch of women from the foreveralonewomen sub and other similar places asking if they’d like to chat to get to know each other since I’m similarly lonely. Guess how many responded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:48 PM
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Only positive thing about being a permavirgin is getting the superpower of disproving the supposed existence of any femcel. I can just ask “would you date me?” and then you get the mental gymnastics about how the answer is no but she also somehow doesn’t have any standards and never gets any opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:46 PM
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I believe it. A lot of men can’t find any woman at all, let alone a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:43 PM
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Pink pillers don’t want blackpilled men at all. If women ever became as desperate as men are, there would be no lonely people left.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:38 PM
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3mm of nipple determine your whole future, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:05 AM
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I’m not too convinced in the efficacy of meeting online in general. I’ve DMed several women over the years on Reddit, and on the rare instances when they do respond, it usually just fizzles out after a while anyway. Or they’ll live on the other side of the world too. But I guess since everything else I’ve tried has been a failure, maybe it still is my best bet :\
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:49 AM
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That’s fair then. I thought it was more of just a joke response in lieu of “it’s over, bro.” I don’t really have any money or autism, so it makes sense why I didn’t get that answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:44 AM
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I did not say that I wouldn’t check on my daughter’s well-being wtf? She will just have an advantage in dating, but that doesn’t mean she couldn’t still struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:42 AM
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Ngl it actually feels reassuring when people rate me low. It’s good to know that it’s not just all in my head. I was just given a shit hand, and there’s not much I can even do to get past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:26 AM
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I’m shocked I didn’t get that one tbh. I got the suggestion of asking through an online community, even though I answered that I’m not okay with dating someone 100+ miles away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:17 AM
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Damn, I really wish my parents would tell me that :( Tbf though, I’m doing pretty well in life aside from the loneliness part, so maybe they just assume I’m fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:09 AM
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Based and “taking responsibility” pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:06 AM
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I think he’s just saying that a daughter likely would not struggle. If she reaches adulthood without any experience, it’s more likely that she simply chose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:02 AM
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I don’t know. I posted my appearance on an alt, and I got rated 5-7, so I’m probably not too bad. I’m mainly just considering bottom of the barrel as those who have not received any attention from women, whatever the reason may be. I can DM you a pic of myself if you want to rate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:41 AM
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I guess the goal is you to have to be her ideal. The type where she’s only into you. I disagree with inc*ls on this, because I do acknowledge that women do have variety here and can find different types attractive …provided you meet the looks threshold first. If you don’t, then there’s just not any point to any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:17 AM
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I’m unironically starting to buy into the rhetoric of women being “chadsexual” lol. Women have pretty much said as much as well. I remember when I made a shitpost about how easy “femcels” have it because they at least get asked out by men, and women compared it to a man being asked out by a man. They are literally not even sexually attracted to us “bottom of the barrel” men in the same way straight men are not attracted to men. TLDR: it never began.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:11 AM
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I’ve hardly met any women who care that much about fitness. It’s usually just a desire for someone who’s not overweight, and I already clear that. I’d rather invest my time in something that actually pays dividends, like my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:01 AM
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More like playing the game as the wrong character lol. Would’ve dumped more points into height on my character select screen if I would have known how important it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:56 AM
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Nothing? No man relies on women asking him out anyway, so it’s not like that was my old strategy and now I need a new one. It’s just depressing, that’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:55 AM
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I genuinely don’t know how to say this without coming across as rude, but I’m kind of skeptical as to how attractive your friends are if they rarely get asked out, unless they’re like social recluses. Even on this subreddit, all you ever hear about is women complaining about being asked out too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:47 AM
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Let me put this into video game terms since I’m awkward and that’s the only kind of metaphor I know. Let’s say you’re looking for an item that has a low spawn rate, maybe 1% or below. If you’ve been grinding for hours and it still hasn’t spawned, then sure maybe you’re just incredibly unlucky. But more likely is you are simply not doing the right thing to get the item to spawn in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:41 AM
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I’m not sure what your point is. What you seem to be saying is that it did in fact eventually happen to you, which supports what I’m saying. Maybe 20 was too young of an age. Maybe 25 or even 30 would be better. I’m not advocating that little teens look at this and think their life is over if no girl in high school asked him out lol. But if you’re 30 and it hasn’t happened, then no amount of jumping through these other hoops is likely to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:29 AM
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Uncommon, sure. But would you believe a guy who claims to be a “Chad” if no woman has ever expressed interest in him before? The fact is, if you’re desirable enough, it happens eventually. It’s a litmus test for knowing how low your SMV really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:27 AM
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If it happens regularly, then yeah you’re probably dating a Chad. I’d say “lucky you,” but I get the impression that most women these days won’t settle for anything less, so I guess it’s just to be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:26 AM
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I don’t mean to imply that anyone should rely on a woman asking him out. But if no woman has ever tried to approach you in some capacity, and you’re older than, say, 20… that’s probably a pretty strong indicator that none of this other x-pilled advice is gonna do shit for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:23 AM
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It makes sense. Women meet people organically all the time. They don’t have to go out of their way to try to meet more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:05 AM
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It’s so depressing to think about how there are actually guys out there who do get asked out. I started buying into the Redditor cope that it “basically never happens,” but honestly there seem to be a lot of normal dudes who have experienced it at some point. The fact that it’s never happened is a pretty damning sign that I’m undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:04 AM
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Oh, I’m sure he wouldn’t either. But I do count most women, and there are often very few women at most meetup events.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:58 AM
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I’m Orthodox, not Catholic, but I’d be happy to do my best to answer any questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:51 AM
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Oh, is this the 18-21 bmi guy? While I don’t generally agree with him, this is actually something I fully agree with. Single women are incredibly rare, regardless of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:50 AM
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Same with theater kids from what I’ve gathered. I need to reroll on life so that I can pick the right social group next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:40 AM
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I like brainstorming names for kids too, even though the likelihood of me ever having any is becoming vanishingly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:18 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/rrl21cxeqefc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cc05bda0902ab03ba00d69101dbca441a33fde3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:38 PM
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Good morning to my fellow hopeless virgins. Another day, no bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:09 PM
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Damn, it does kind of feel cool to be first. My apologies to all the YouTube comments I’ve made fun of over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:03 PM
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First
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:02 PM
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I almost never encounter a woman who cares about muscles. Loads of women care about height though. This is some red pill cope imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:02 AM
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I think that’s because some of the people complaining are in the 5’4 crowd. When you’re that short… yeah it kind of is the end of the world. There are some women who will date you, but your options are so limited that it’s a constant uphill battle. Granted, there are also a lot of 5’9 dudes out there whining about being too short, so I totally agree that those people are being melodramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:01 AM
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Did she report you for harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:56 AM
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I go completely crazy for women with hair that reaches their waist, but it sucks because I just know that would be such a pain to maintain. Plus, a lot of women seem to think it looks immature to have long hair. (I know it doesn’t matter since I’m forever alone anyway, but I like to daydream sometimes still.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:55 AM
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Femcels don’t exist, OP. You’re not gonna find any here. And those who claim to be femcels never leave the house, so there wouldn’t be any friends who know them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:51 AM
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Yeah, I only really miss the human connection of another person. I don’t really crave sex at all. I have a vivid imagination, and at this point my sexual fantasies are better than anything real sex could provide anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:46 PM
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I don’t think I “deserve” anything. I would’ve been happy with an unattractive woman, but none has wanted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:40 PM
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Hey, I’ll have you know I’m only a 26 year old virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:35 PM
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East Asian women seem less superficial overall than western women, speaking broadly. Glad you found someone though. I hope you’re happy together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:18 AM
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I am luckily at peace with the forever alone situation today. There’s a part of me that just doesn’t think it’s even worth the effort as an unattractive man to jump through all the hoops it takes to get some equally unattractive woman. It would be worth it for a woman I found cute, or if it didn’t take so much effort to get a homely woman, but it’s kind of the worst of both worlds here. I’ll probably be back to despairing by tomorrow or something, but I appreciate the moments of serene indiffere…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:10 AM
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There are men on PPD with girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:03 AM
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I somehow agree with your overall point and entirely disagree with your explanation. Rough bedroom stuff isn’t really benevolent misogyny. Benevolent misogyny is the stuff like chivalry, prioritizing her feelings above your own, and men taking the dominant/active role in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:02 AM
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This is genuinely really wholesome to read. I’m happy you’re both so in love with each other. It brightens my day to vicariously feel that sort of thing through couples who genuinely care for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:26 PM
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I don’t think I’d stoop quite so low as that. My career isn’t that lucrative anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:48 PM
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I don’t really consider this self harm. It’s not that serious of damage. It’s just to facilitate tears. But I will go the onions route someone else suggested if it makes you people happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:48 AM
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Oh lol my bad, I totally misunderstood you then. I thought you were implying I was holding out for a 10 haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:46 AM
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I currently don’t have any onions, and I won’t go grocery shopping tomorrow. I will report back if I end up buying some and trying it out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:45 AM
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Good news: I have found a decently reliable way of crying. And it has actually calmed me down. Bad news: the method I’ve found most effective is punching myself. Luckily I’m too weak to cause any damage, but this probably isn’t a good habit to get into.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:43 AM
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Yeah, I guess I’d take what I can get at this point. I’d at least give it a shot. I’d hope she would still be willing to have kids, because I’d like to have a child eventually, but I guess beggars can’t be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:41 AM
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Lmao I’m only offended by this because I thought you would know how desperate I am by now, after all these times I’ve sad-posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:38 AM
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Not trying to make excuses. Just trying to rationalize my failures. What attracted you to your boyfriend, if I may ask? What made you want to date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:33 AM
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I just realized you didn’t actually comment on how realistic my chances are. That’s how you know it’s over lol, when even people on Reddit can’t sugarcoat things for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:29 AM
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Yeah, so if Hinge is more popular with women and I still have no luck with it, it’s definitely not worth bothering with any of the other apps or websites. I know I’m extra doom and gloom today, but it’s hard to keep denying the obvious anymore. It’s just over, and I’m running out of ways to pretend it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:26 AM
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Yeah, but he just told me some crap about accepting myself sadly. Maybe I should try again with a different doctor though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:24 AM
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I would be thrilled with an average woman, but that’s because I’m probably below average tbh. Granted, I guess the average woman in America is overweight, but at this point I’d settle for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:21 AM
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I don’t think it’s that popular compared to the mainstream apps though, so I’m skeptical as to how viable of a strategy it is. I might give it a shot anyway though since I’ve tried just about everything else. Hinge is kind of similar though, and I don’t have much success with that either. You can’t exactly write paragraphs for your about me, but there are a decent amount of prompts to tell about yourself and what you’re looking for, and there are lots of bio information that you can list. I did …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:20 AM
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Clearly they must have something going for them if they managed to find a woman. No one ever goes for a man unless he has something appealing about him. The same goes for women too I would imagine (except when it comes to truly desperate guys like me). A lot of them mog me anyway. In America, being fat is unironically less unattractive than being short from what I’ve experienced. I’ve seen loads of fat dudes with girlfriends, but very few short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:16 AM
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I try to not have any standards anymore since I’m bottom of the barrel. Short (5’5), high pitched voice, not much money, uncommon interests, probably low testosterone, potentially neurodivergent, not really funny, and pretty weak too. The only positives I really have going for me are that I have a decent face and jawline, I’m very driven and passionate about my career, and that I like to think I’m a pretty caring person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:12 AM
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The problem is that while men mostly select for things that can be improved or changed (losing weight, better make-up, etc.), a lot of the things women desire in men can’t really be changed. The biggest and most obvious example of this is height. But even other things like social status and social skills, which are important, don’t really drastically change as much as people like to pretend they will. My therapist has even talked with me about this: a socially anxious person can improve, but it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:08 AM
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There were people still using OKCupid in 2019? God, I’d be so depressed if my first physical relationship were polyamorous. I’d feel like I’m not good enough to commit too, so I’d just have to accept being some ugly woman’s 4th boyfriend. Anyway, whether you are an exception or not is irrelevant. The data is out, and while *neck rhetoric is mostly baseless when applied to the real world, it describes online dating with shocking accuracy. Only the top 10% of men getting matches, almost entirely d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:00 AM
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I don’t really meet women anymore at all. All I ever go out for these days is work, church, and the rare party. I don’t have enough spare time really to try any other social activities. Not that it matters anyway, since I never found success even when I did have time for such things. I seldom form crushes these days in general. It’s just a waste of energy when it’s never reciprocated anyway. Besides, I’m too undesirable to go after anyone I would actually be attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:50 AM
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Femcel: “I’m so lonely. No guy has ever wanted me. I just want to experience love for once.” Incel: “Hey, I’m pretty lonely too. Maybe we could—“ Femcel: “No.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:39 AM
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Soon I’m gonna reach the age where the women going through messy divorces are my age. All while I haven’t even gotten past a first date before. Fml Anyway, I don’t think I know any divorcees irl. And if I resort to online dating, then the point is moot. Even older women on Tinder still only go after Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:38 AM
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Luckily I never vent about my problems irl. I don’t like dealing with negativity, so I try to not inflict mine upon others unless it’s with a therapist or it’s just online where it’s not all unloaded on one person. Doesn’t really matter though. Still no gf lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:35 AM
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It’s so funny that whenever the context is women, the responses are always “oh well, you have to at least be attracted to your partner.” But for men, this same rule doesn’t apply. I don’t even necessarily disagree. It’s just an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:32 AM
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I’m 26. Make fun of me if you wish; I don’t really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:26 AM
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The hope is fading away again. If we’re being realistic, I just don’t have enough time or interest to meet enough women to finally find one who finds me attractive. And even if she finds me attractive, what if I don’t find her attractive in return? Would I just have to accept what I can get, or risk going the rest of my life without ever finding a second chance? I just don’t realistically see anything happening at this point. The feeling of hopelessness is the really depressing thing about being…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:22 AM
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I don’t really have a solution either. Being a man just sucks :\ I’ve just become numb to the point that I don’t develop feelings for anyone anymore. So it is kind of possible, but it has negative consequences. I’m not even sure if I’d be able to fall in love at this point, even though I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:58 AM
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Real math begins where the proofs start!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:55 AM
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The issue is non-Chad men have to develop a connection first to have any chance at the woman agreeing. If you’ve barely spoken to the woman, then the odds of getting a date are pretty much zero. And by the time you develop that connection, odds are pretty high that the guy might have developed feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:53 AM
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As a late bloomer (still virgin) man… Wtf no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:44 AM
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:( I hope you’re okay, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:48 AM
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That does actually seem to work from my past experience. I’m definitely a sad drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:47 AM
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I think I might unironically do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:12 AM
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How do people cry? I’m depressed all the time, but nothing ever comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:09 AM
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Femcel actively rejecting men. Imagine my shock
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:58 AM
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Everyone has their demons and their past. I didn’t say that being a woman automatically makes life easy. But all else being equal, being in a loving relationship makes life better, or else you would not have gone through all that for his sake. Hell, for a lot of people, it’s all they really want out of life. Lots of people (men in particular) still have gone through shit, but they don’t even get their happy ending with someone to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:12 PM
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It’s okay. Hinge has some silly feature where it selects someone each day who is “most compatible” and suggests you match. This in particular has made me think that the profile is literally selected at random lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:05 PM
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Yeah, I totally see what you mean. I’d probably feel the same way. I want kids one day as well, and needing to stress about a biological clock is not something I want to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:57 PM
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The grannymaxxing arc commences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:36 PM
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Even a 40 year old would kind of be pushing it for me tbh, but yeah this is definitely beyond my age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:36 PM
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What are you on about lol? I am pretty confident almost any guy would be willing to pay for a vacation trip as a couple for someone he loves. The woman’s boyfriend has nothing to do with this, which is why I told you you’re applying my comparison to the wrong people. I think you’re just fundamentally misunderstanding me here, so I’m about to give up on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:34 PM
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There’s a bit of a difference between a 32 year old and a 66 year old lol, but congrats on losing it!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:32 PM
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Fellas, is it over if Hinge says your “most compatible” is a woman 40 years older than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:25 PM
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Lmao this is not at all the comparison I’m trying to make. Obviously going through pregnancy is a tougher ordeal than having to plan and pay for a trip to Puerto Rico. I’m not trying to suggest that she doesn’t deserve the trip or anything ffs. I’m comparing her life of having a family, a lovely trip to Puerto Rico, and presumably a loving partner—to the life of one of her patrons who jerks off alone in his room hoping someone would give him a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:23 PM
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It’s merely a joke to point out the disparity in the quality of life between the two sexes here. I’m happy for her; a trip to Puerto Rico sounds nice. Being a woman isn’t necessarily an advantage in life, but I’d say having a relationship absolutely is, and it’s pretty plain to see that being a woman makes one much likelier to be able to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:03 PM
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Average guy on PPD: “I’m at the end of my rope. I’m just so tired of being rejected and unwanted. I don’t know I can cope any longer with the unending feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness. Average girl on PPD:
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:37 PM
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Anybody else depressed about the Chugga controversy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:54 AM
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People on the virgin sub will cope by acting like this never happens to men. No, we’re just ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:43 AM
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I’m 26 and still have not found anyone who wanted to kiss me 🙃. So sometimes those teen fears do come true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:28 AM
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I do not appreciate you invading my mind and sharing my fantasies with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:15 PM
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Thanks <3 I am trying to be more hopeful lately, but it’s pretty hard when you’ve never had any success. So I appreciate other people’s support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:26 AM
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I don’t really care what 30+ women do. Just like how women didn’t care about me in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:12 AM
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Thanks. But now that we’ve talked about it and I’ve realized how far behind I am, now I’m feeling less confident that I ever will get over that hump lol. Only 5% or so of men are still virgins past 25, and I don’t even want to know how few have never kissed. I don’t really know what’s so wrong with me, but apparently I’m extremely subpar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:09 AM
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Oh I pretty much never play chess lol, so I don’t have an elo. Like I said, I don’t have hobbies that translate into social activities, so I have to just make do with things that are adjacent enough to the kinds of things I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:05 AM
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I’ve tried several times to step out of my comfort zone, but it’s a long, arduous process when you have as bad social anxiety as I do. It’s not as easy as just forcing yourself to go to social events for instance, since I often go there and just get so anxious that I don’t initiate conversation with anyone or forget how to talk like a human. I am slowly getting better at that sort of thing, which is why I’m hoping I might get proficient by 30. But it’s not like I can just try hard enough and cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:59 AM
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It’s not just for the bitches lol. I’m going to church because I genuinely believe and I think it’s a path to being a better person. I’m just also hoping I might meet someone like minded there. And yeah, trying things simultaneously is important. I’m just really short on time, so I doubt I’d be able to do more than maybe two social things per week. I was planning on starting cold approaches last weekend actually, but some church events ended up going on longer than I anticipated. I’ll probably t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:55 AM
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I’m high inhibition as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:49 AM
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I’m not looking for hookups, so I’m hoping I’ll meet someone through church. It’s kind of a small community though, so I think it’s not too likely. If church doesn’t work out, I might try cold approaching. It also doesn’t seem too likely to work, but it’s pretty much the only thing I haven’t tried yet. I dunno, I’m trying to get better at accepting that it might just never happen for me. It’s depressing, but we all have our struggles in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:47 AM
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I’m 26. Not having a home at this stage could be a yellow/red flag for some women who want their man to have his shit together. Nah, bars are a horrible scene for me. My voice is pathetic and quiet, so I can barely hear myself over loud music. Plus, I don’t really get liquid courage. I’ve tried going to bars before, and I just awkwardly sit there and get depressed hearing “How Soon is Now” play in my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:30 AM
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Yeah, she’s cute lol. I thought guys were the ones with unrealistic standards for women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:27 AM
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I see that as actually being quite an optimistic estimate lol. I’m 26 now. You can only say “this is gonna be the year” so many times before you have to adjust your expectations and realize that it’s gonna be a long struggle before I get to experience anything I desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:26 AM
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What ways? Physically? Definitely no. The “not like the other girls attitude”? I genuinely don’t mind that at all. Let her feel different. It’s so hard to stand out in this globalized world, so I can sympathize with wanting to feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:25 AM
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I don’t live with parents, but I do still live in an apartment sadly. Might be able to change that by next year. I have a driver’s license, but my car isn’t anything impressive. I drink occasionally. I have a high libido, but that generally doesn’t come across in conversation because I’m highly inhibited. The upside is that I can keep my hormones under control at least, since coming on too strong is definitely also a roadblock for some. I’m highly introverted unfortunately. Slowly getting better…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:23 AM
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I’m confused, you’re saying that I’m in confident, but still think I’ll succeed fairly soon?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:20 AM
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How old do people think I’ll be when/if I have my first kiss? For context, I’m 26. I’m somewhat optimistic for thinking it might still happen one day. My bet is when I’m 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:11 AM
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I’m not unwilling; I just suck at being funny too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:10 AM
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Easy 10 for me, but I’m also trying to be more religious, so there’s basically no downsides involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:05 AM
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Thinking anime men are better than real men sounds incredibly misandrist. Maybe women should try touching grass more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:19 PM
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I think I’m slowly getting better at letting them go. In the past, I think I would have just let these feelings fester all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:01 PM
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I’m not blameless here either. I’m starting to return hate for hate by intentionally trying to say hurtful things back to women here. I’m making it worse for myself by doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:55 PM
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Yeah, I think if I see one more woman talk online about how she’d never date a short man, I think I’m going to lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:53 PM
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I really need to step away from the Internet for a spell. I’m feeling extra bitter toward women today, and viewing and engaging in vitriol is just making it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:49 PM
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It’s not really comparable imo. Some guys will not want to sleep with female virgins, but they’re pretty rare. Whereas lots of women will immediately raise a red flag if a man over 25 is a virgin. Our hands are tied; yours weren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:45 PM
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I’m not enough of a weeb to know who that is. I just admire the weebs for finding an alternative to human relationships. But why would you pine after an image on a screen when you could just go outside and find a living, breathing man to be with instead? I would only lust after fictional characters because no real women want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:30 PM
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Then what ought an older virgin to do if a lot of women wouldn’t want to give anyone a chance who doesn’t have enough experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:02 PM
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3D women are overrated. While it’s true that 2D women can’t love you, it’s not like 3D women will either. I admire the degens who can cope by just watching anime all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:07 PM
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Do you want to be alone? I’ve yet to encounter a woman who couldn’t find a man if she actually wanted to. They’re usually just dissatisfied with the options available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:05 PM
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Would you really want to do kinky sexual things with someone you’re not all that into? I personally wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:01 PM
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Do you think older virgins should lie about their body count then to not get weeded out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:59 PM
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Hmm, I wonder what’s for dinner. Oh boy, I’m so hungry, I could eat an Octorok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:37 AM
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Way too attractive to be on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:36 AM
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“Wailord chick” Lmao okay maybe you’re not so bad after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:40 AM
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Where can I find these asexual women with no standards? 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:39 AM
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I wish my issue were just that I was fat. That problem would be pretty easy to actually fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:19 AM
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I wouldn’t know. nuzzles her check onto your chest Damn, even autocorrect is wary of gold-diggers now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:56 PM
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Had a dream where a girl actually had a crush on me. I think I want this more than I want an actual relationship. I just want to feel attractive to someone for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:45 PM
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Well, that’s what I meant by my hypothetical. Not that their sex drive was higher, but what if they were attracted physically to most men in the same way that men are attracted to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:29 AM
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You can have a high sex drive without acting stupid lol. I’m incredibly horny almost all the time, but I know how to control myself. I think a lot of guys just don’t know how to control their urges, but in fairness I might just have an advantage because I’m low testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:27 AM
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Thank you for offering one of the few responses that was actually interesting and had some thought put into it lol. Those are some good points. If both sexes were equally horny, then things would just be sex all the time. Sounds hot on paper, but that would definitely lead to a lot of issues down the line. Hell, I even think that the increasing sexualization of society is already causing issues, but that’s a pretty unpopular opinion on mostly sex positive platforms like Reddit. But I guess my qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:26 AM
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Out of curiosity, why would a heightened sex drive be an inconvenience as a woman? I know for men it’s primarily an annoyance because of the scarcity of sex, but I’m not sure what issues women face with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:19 AM
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I feel like it would definitely be better for men. But I guess I was curious if there would be any unforeseen consequences. Maybe it would be frustrating for women because they’d want to fuck more men, but they’d likely be equally dissatisfied with the sex since most of their enjoyment doesn’t come from the physical or visual side anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:39 AM
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Do you think it wouldn’t change much for men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:37 AM
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Q4All: What do you think life would be like if women were as attracted to men on average as men are to women? Would things be better or worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:34 AM
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Yeah, 125 pounds is definitely fine then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:27 AM
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What height are you again? Because it’s not just “technically” a healthy weight; it looks perfectly natural and great for just about anyone. I know that body dysmorphia isn’t really rational though. I just hope you don’t put yourself through too much grief over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:15 AM
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Can’t be disappointed by the first time if the first time never happens 🧐
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:11 AM
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That’s an unfair comparison. Aussie girls seem genetically gifted. I swear the median there must be like a 7/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:08 AM
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The only good genes I have are that the men in my family seem to never go bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:05 AM
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No way! I thought I was the only man who felt that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:59 AM
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Life fuel tbh. Glad there are some women out there who like that sort of thing. I’ve always been pretty insecure about looking young.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:57 AM
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Don’t develop an eating disorder, please. You’re a fine weight already from what I remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:55 AM
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I think I’ve heard that system of justice has been pretty successful in Europe. But I don’t really know what I’m talking about here, so take that with a grain of salt. Either way, it’s nice to see some restorative justice in practice, especially since this sounds like it was a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:18 AM
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I assume you had to go to the ceremony for work, but it amuses me to think you just pop in for fun. Yeah, I also turned to religion to deal with the loneliness. I honestly think I would have gone full *neck if I didn’t have that moral compass anchoring me. It also helps me to feel grateful when I feel like I have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:08 AM
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I’ve never seen a female advocate for mgtow before lol. But I’ve never used that label because I know it’s delusional. I didn’t “choose” to go my own way; women made that choice for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:04 AM
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I think I’m finally reaching a zen state where I don’t care as much about being alone anymore. There are more and more days where I’m not depressed by it anymore. I think going back to online dating actually helped, because I’m realizing the women out there aren’t really worth the effort anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:46 AM
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Yes, politely say you’re not interested and move on. If he persists, then it’s harassment and you can be as harsh as you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:42 PM
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We do listen to level headed people. So not people like you or OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 07:05 AM
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lol that’s true. Maybe someone I talk to will post on the 2xchromosomes sub about how they nearly died that day when a man said hello to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:12 AM
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Luckily I’m not so far-gone that I didn’t know that. I’m probably gonna start small and not even ask for numbers though, just trying to talk to strangers in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:10 AM
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I’m thinking of giving it a try. I’m a bit apprehensive though since I live in a pretty left-leaning location, and I have a bad feeling these types of women are more likely to treat this like some kind of act of terror.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:07 AM
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Maybe I’ll try cold approaching this weekend. If it goes poorly, I’m personally blaming you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:05 AM
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I don’t know. I feel like I’ve heard too many horror stories. It’s sadly more likely to happen if you’re socially awkward and unattractive, which I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 06:00 AM
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I wish there was a way to snap my fingers and make it so that there was no risk of a woman freaking out if I cold approached. I think a major cause of a lot of men’s romantic difficulties stems from the fact that society makes us feel like we aren’t allowed to do this anymore. Before anyone says “muh social circle,” I get it. That works really well for people who meet like 5 people per week. But not everyone can be a social butterfly. Some of us don’t meet enough women for that to be a viable st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:38 AM
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I should have said a cause rather than implying that it’s the cause. It is very true that a lack of platonic kinship also is a very serious component of male loneliness. But frankly, I dispute that it’s the only factor. I have some friendships that I’m happy with, but I’m still extremely lonely because of being unwanted as a partner. Solving the one issue may help the other, but it won’t make it disappear. It’s part of the human condition to want to be wanted, to find love with another person. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:23 AM
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There are a million groups that are suffering. It is simply impossible to genuinely empathize and care deeply about every single marginalized group. I care most deeply about undesired men’s issues because I am one of them. I don’t think it’s that absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:18 AM
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I understand that, because it’s become taboo to cold approach women, most of the men approaching you probably will just be redpilled bros looking to score the way their guru taught them. So I won’t fault you necessarily for turning down cold approaches out of hand. But I think it’s equally important to not treat cold approaches like they’re automatically harassment either (obviously they can be, and frequently are sadly, but I’m talking about respectful approaches here). That is something that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:13 AM
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Do the women who reject all cold approaches realize that not everyone has a massive social circle? Even if you have a moderate amount of hobbies and avenues to meet people, it’s quite likely that the only women one might meet are already taken. What then? Just sit and pray that you eventually meet someone new just so you can have a chance of her even being available? This sort of nonsense is what’s causing the loneliness epidemic in men imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:42 AM
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It doesn’t really do much directly, but I think understanding the issue is key to solving it. For instance, I honestly think there should be therapists trained specifically for helping undesired men. A lot simply don’t really know how to adequately address the problem, and I think recognizing its severity can be a key step in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:05 PM
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I think most people know how bad loneliness can be because most have suffered from loneliness at one time or another Actually, that shows why a lot of people, including you potentially, do not understand how bad this problem is. Everyone feels lonely at times indeed, but being a lifelong reject is very different from the typical loneliness one feels when they’re going through a rough spot. People falsely assume it’s the same feeling, and then use that to downplay what is a much more severe strug…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:18 PM
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Yeah, but I wanted to highlight the severe psychological consequences it has too. It warps the way a lot of us see ourselves and others. Feelings of despair, suicidal ideation, lack of empathy, endlessly morning missed milestones, dreading interactions with the opposite sex, inferiority complex, and more all seem to be common repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:33 AM
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I looked up the definition and it does seem to imply that it’s caused by a specific occurrence, whereas undesirability is more of a chronic condition. So I’m inclined to agree with your assessment. However, I wish there was a better way to convey to others how much this condition can fuck up someone’s sense of self worth and mental health. I think a lot of people underestimate how severe the consequences can be, especially the longer it lasts. As cliched as it is to say, I’m pretty sure loneline…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:29 AM
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My secret is just not talking to people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:23 AM
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I have nothing against them as people, but I can’t imagine ever being in that kind of relationship. I’d just be way too jealous. Besides, I want to give my love to one person. It doesn’t feel as special otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:20 AM
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Do you think going one’s life without any sexual or romantic desire could count as trauma? I know that’s a heavy word, but for a lot of older virgins like myself, it seems to have completely warped our psychology to such a degree that the term honestly feels warranted. But I’m hesitant to use it because I know I’ll get responses like “wow imagine feeling traumatized for not getting your dick wet. Way to be a whiny brat!”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:15 AM
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I’m so alt that I desire monogamy and going to church on Sundays. What can I say, I’m a radical at heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:12 AM
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Lmao I can’t believe we live in a world where being cis is now countercultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:08 AM
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Depending on the woman, it might be unreasonable to want someone you find attractive. I’m at the bottom of the barrel for instance, and it would be crazy for me to hold out for some woman I actually think is hot. Whether it’s reasonable or not though, it’s hard to give credit to the people who claim men and women’s dating troubles are equal in severity. Women are lonely because they can’t get their Prince Charming, and men are lonely because absolutely no one wants us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:33 PM
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I exist to help women with their inferiority complexes. Just taking one look at me is enough for them to go, “I may suck, but no way I’d settle for that.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:06 PM
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By making them sexually frustrated? Granted, I’ve heard that helps with workouts, so maybe you’re onto something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:01 PM
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I think it’s strange how often women complain about men criticizing them when women seem so much more critical of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:58 PM
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Women often have unreasonably high standards. Also water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:57 PM
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Just FYI there’s a typo in the response options to one of the questions. I think it’s the one asking if the respondent believes women manipulate men to get ahead (if not, it’s on that page). The top option, which is usually “strongly disagree” is instead a duplicate “strongly agree.” This might potentially throw some people off. Also I agreed to an interview, but as a warning, I might chicken out because I’m not sure if I want my face or voice being identified with inceldom. This could negativel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:53 PM
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My test levels are likely really low. I brought it up with a doctor, but he didn’t recommend taking supplements for it. Some be about acceptance. Maybe I should ask a different doctor about it through.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:48 PM
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Fair enough. If you enjoy it, that’s all you need. I don’t enjoy it, so it would have to offer some extrinsic value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:47 PM
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You’d be surprised lol. Tbf though, I suspect that they have other interests; they’re just really bad at showcasing their personality on the apps. It’s a skill that a lot of men struggle with, and I think women might generally be equally terrible at.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:39 PM
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That’s what I’ve been focusing on for a while, but man it takes an eternity to rid oneself of social awkwardness and shyness. I’ve been working on it for about 8 years now, and I still have much more progress that needs to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:38 PM
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I think it is comparable actually. Women less often are physically aroused by guys, and it’s more of the emotional connection that draws them in. If anything, the man following Instathots is less likely to cheat, because the odds of any of those girls on Instagram reciprocating interest is tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:34 PM
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Likes the office and dogs and nothing else. Talking to them is about as exciting as watching paint dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:27 PM
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Nope. I worked out in the past, but I realized I basically got no benefit out of it. Now I just do and eat whatever I want, and it’s pretty chill. I think it’s only a huge benefit if you’re overweight or treat it like a full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:25 PM
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People can do whatever they want obviously, but I don’t think it really makes sense to have a stay at home husband or wife if there aren’t kids involved. It’s only really a full time job equivalent when there are kids in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:21 PM
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Sounds like more women need to level up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:22 AM
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lol try saying this on the virgin subreddit. The people there have a moral meltdown if you suggest lying about past experience. Someone even unironically claimed it was exploitative…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:52 AM
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“B-b-but… your brain is totally wired differently than it was at 19. People at 19 are practically still children!” -some bitter harpies whenever age gaps come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:49 AM
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I’m a stick in the mud straight lace who doesn’t really want any drugs affecting my system. If I could go back in time and not force myself to take alcohol, I’d do that too. (This makes it sound like I’m an alcoholic lol. I don’t drink it much either, but I’d rather not drink it at all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:46 AM
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As a horny heterosexual man, even I am always shocked by how many dudes on here just want to fuck and want easy access to casual sex with loads of women. Like, the fuck? I just want a girlfriend I love and can commit to. I didn’t think this was a minority opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:43 AM
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I have actually been getting matches on Hinge this week. Maybe there is hope after all. Granted, I’m not too into them and they’re not too into me, but maybe this is what settling looks like? I guess it would probably be naive to think a 26 year old virgin would be able to attract someone who is really into him, or for me to be really attracted to anyone who’s that desperate I guess. Either way, I’m hoping I can go on a date for the first time in about 5 years. If nothing else, maybe it could be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:26 AM
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Idk I’m just bitter at women who got to do what I want lol. Something about it being harder to find a committed man at that age and a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:22 AM
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I’m aware of the rules. I’m bitching about the rules, which is technically not against the rules as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:42 AM
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the point is not recruiting more people into sadness Who said we’re recruiting? We’re just trying to vent about our own pain, not tell other people their lives are over. But if some people see how shitty our lives are and how the blue and red pills failed us, then I can see how someone might become blackpilled. That’s not my fault for being evidence for it though. If you want men to stop becoming blackpilled, you need to fight the struggles which lead men into these hopeless situations in the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:10 PM
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Fair enough, but I already go to therapy, and I still feel the need to vent in other places. It’s not enough. Yeah, it is circle jerky in blackpilled subs, which is why I would prefer to sadpost in subs with more varied perspectives to challenge my thoughts. But our blackpilled thoughts aren’t allowed anywhere else, so we’re forced into the circlejerk subs, and the thought patterns continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:34 PM
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At least one of us still has hope lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:11 PM
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I’m happy for you, dude. Glad to hear it!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:07 PM
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Why can’t we have a single place to vent? If you think it’s depressing just listening to us periodically, imagine how much more depressing it is to live like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:03 PM
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I don’t. You seem to be fixated on this today for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:49 AM
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Could it possibly be that there are a lot of systemic issues that men are facing, which then cause many men to not be okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:00 AM
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Where do you start if even the unattractive women don’t want you lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:37 AM
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Interesting. I’d actually appreciate that guy’s advice. I think no matter what though, I’m probably done giving unattractive women a chance. I don’t know why I bother settling for women who don’t even want me back. If no one’s gonna like me anyway, I might as well pine after cute women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:31 AM
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I agree that it wasn’t necessarily my looks. Another explanation could be that I took too long to reply (I was busy most of today and also wasn’t too sure if it would be a good idea to chat if I wasn’t attracted to her). But it still hurts regardless of what the reasons are. It wouldn’t be such an issue if I had other options, but I don’t. I never seem to be what anyone is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:25 AM
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I think that was the most respectful comment I’ve ever gotten from someone who identifies as pink pilled. Thank you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:14 AM
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That’s fair. I don’t know why I redownloaded the apps tbh. I already know they don’t work for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:13 AM
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That’s reasonable. I’d go crazy for even a couple of options. I sometimes forget that regular guys actually can and do meet women and form relationships. It’s only us subhumans who have to go on a journey of self discovery, jump through a million hoops, and change our whole personalities to have even a chance with some unattractive, lazy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:12 AM
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I should just give up trying to understand how dating works for normies. I project my own experiences and assume that’s the norm for most people, but then I forget that I’m just unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:59 PM
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I don’t know if redpillers believe this unironically, but I know a lot of incels would post this, despite knowing it’s scientifically inaccurate, just because they knew it pissed women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:50 PM
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On the other hand, how many people are really out there meeting 200+ people per month? Even for an extrovert in NYC, that seems like a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:46 PM
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Fair enough, that excludes me, I guess. A 7/10 having 4 dates out of 200 new people (2% match rate) is fucking abysmal, but that does seem to reflect reality with all the hoeflation going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:44 PM
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Speaking from experience, both can be true. I was just commenting in this thread about how I finally got a like from someone on Hinge. I wasn’t attracted to her at all, but I was desperate enough to give it a shot anyway. But before I could even message her, she unmatched me. So I resent women who don’t meet my standards because even they think they’re too good for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:42 PM
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Didn’t you rate me a while back? If so, either your rating or these stats don’t work too well, since I can’t get a single date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:39 PM
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I literally can’t even imagine a woman approaching me. Feels less real than me somehow learning to become a Jedi or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:35 PM
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True, I’m envious of gay men. Gay guys are so much less picky than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:34 PM
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It’s fine. I don’t expect strangers on Reddit to care. I’m just here to vent, and hope someone can talk some sense into me so I don’t go full blown incel over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:45 PM
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Turns out I was the delusional one for even thinking I had a league. I blame Reddit users for telling me I looked “average”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:40 PM
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Turns out that getting unmatched by someone you’re not even attracted to can somehow hurt even more than being unmatched by someone you are attracted to. At least with the latter, I already would have known she was out of my league. Now I have to contend with the fact that I’m even less desirable than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:31 PM
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I guess that makes sense. Skinniness is attractive in women, but not really in men from what I’ve gathered.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:42 PM
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Also, if I succeed, no one is allowed to say attraction isn’t a choice anymore. Desperate people can learn to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:29 PM
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I wonder if it would be easier if I were bigger myself. I wonder if it would be weird with me weighing less than she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:28 PM
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I do feel like hugs would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:27 PM
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Finally got a like on Hinge! Now I just need to learn how to become attracted to bigger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:22 PM
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It’s always funny when people ask why I’m alone and then don’t reply. I can’t help but imagine them thinking, “Shit, this guy really is fucked.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:15 PM
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Sure, but it’s probably also better for women too. As long as monogamy stays the norm of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:10 PM
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No, this wouldn’t eliminate the Y chromosome. The goal would just be to make it less common. Maybe 3 women for every 2 men or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:36 PM
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It’s definitely brought up in that context as well. Either way, we both seem to agree that it’s an accurate assessment, so I don’t think the gender imbalance would be too much of an issue for women. I definitely think a major factor for men struggling with relationships is our difficulty socializing. It’s pretty obvious since relationships are also a social function. But that’s not really my point with this thought experiment. Men’s social ability would be unchanged in this hypothetical, but rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:35 PM
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at with your first paragraph. Do you think it’s cope? Because women bring it up all the time to defend why they don’t settle for male virgins. I take women at their word generally. In regard to the second paragraph, I don’t think the number of men is the issue. We men have trouble socializing in general; it’s not like we have a lack of male friends due to a lack of options. And besides, if men wanted friends, they could still have female friends in this hypotheti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:21 PM
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I’m glad I have a masturbation addiction then. I don’t like these dreams ruining my mornings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:14 PM
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The world would be a much better place if there there were fewer men than women, but not for the reasons red pill often claims (I don’t support harems lol). Think about it. It’s brought up again and again that women are more okay with loneliness than men are. So if there were 3 women for every man, then sure 2 in 3 women would generally end up alone, but that doesn’t bother them much. Further, with fewer men to go around, there would be less competition for women, so men might have higher chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:38 PM
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Men either have no women interested in them or can get just about any girl’s interest. Cheating would probably be a lot less common if it weren’t for hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:34 PM
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There are a myriad of factors. Before I go into the specifics though, I should preface by saying I’m 26. It’s pretty likely that if I haven’t been able to make it work by this age, I will never be able to make it work. There are two main categories of hang-ups for me, and I’d say they are as follows. Men and women alike describe me as effeminate. I’m short, my voice is soft, I can’t grow facial hair, and I just generally have a baby face and “weak” look to me. I don’t have common interests. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:24 PM
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Thanks for the reassurance, but I’m not too worried about it. For me, planning on how I could be a better lover is like planning for a zombie apocalypse or something. I don’t really concern myself much with things I doubt are ever going to happen, just on the slimmest off chance that something does occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:59 PM
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I don’t feel guilty; I feel depressed. But “woe is me” content is not allowed, so I can’t really get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:44 PM
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I would probably be a bad lover. I’m still a virgin, so I can’t know for sure, but I have reason to believe it (and no, it’s not just because my dick is small, but that is also true lol). I have little control over my tongue, so I would be pretty terrible at oral, and I also can only last under a minute usually. I’d be pretty insecure about these things if I actually had any realistic belief that I’d ever get laid. One of the few upsides of being a hopeless virgin is that I don’t ever need to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:41 PM
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I haven’t dreamt about romance in a long time, but last night it actually happened. I was finally getting blissfully numb to loneliness, and then I had to be reminded how much I still crave affection. I don’t want to do anything today. I just want to go back to that dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:38 PM
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For half a second, I thought you wrote you could go as low as 6 years old lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 02:24 PM
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Obviously 2X is going to have a high distribution of women lol, but that’s an exceptional sub that is specifically dedicated to women. But I’ll grant you this, and the statistics for Reddit’s user base seem to be changing. One source said that as of this year, 38% of users are women. That’s still less than half, but it’s higher than I thought it would be. Lastly, you need to be more nuanced in your terminology, I think. Posts that are critical of women are rampant here, but that doesn’t mean the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 01:54 AM
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I don’t think anyone is asking you to explain why other women would feel this way. I’m calling out that “one person doesn’t like you” is a strawman here, because it’s a sentiment with which many women agree, whatever their reasons may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:12 PM
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Women don’t care about men’s problems because men don’t care about women’s problems. Men don’t care about women’s problems because women don’t care about men’s problems. Welcome to the endless cycle. I hope you enjoy your stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:55 PM
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A relevant meme I made a while back https://preview.redd.it/oswygvskapac1.jpeg?width=328&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=580f4bcb9408106e551031d8ce03da12f3a4a763
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:49 PM
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The original post is literally about how this is a common thought for women. If it were just you with this harmful preference, it wouldn’t be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:41 PM
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Wait, your guys’ parents actually gave you dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:35 PM
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Isn’t that more or less the ratio of men to women on most subs though? Reddit in general has a wider male user base than female. Also idk what you’re going on about with blackpill content being tolerated here. I’m blackpilled, and I have to be very careful with what I say to avoid being banned. The mods have explicitly stated that our opinions are not welcome here (though I choose to stay anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:29 PM
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Getting temp banned should be a badge of honor, not something to cry about. I may or may not be biased after coming back from a 30 day temp ban lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:24 PM
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Yeah, that’s not really analogous. I give up. There’s either some fundamental miscommunication going on, or you’re being intentionally obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:54 PM
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You can look at whatever example you like if it helps you see that even false statements can still make a listener feel negative emotion. Hopefully my point in bringing up these illustrations has become clear by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:48 PM
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Beautifully put. I try to tell myself that it’s heroic in a way to still choose kindness over hate even when no one shows it to you, and when you spend your life being unwanted. I think that one of the most positive affects on my life from taking my faith in Christ more seriously was coming to this realization.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:45 PM
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If I heard someone say mermaids could be evil, I’d probably ignore the crazy unless I was pretty bored. On the contrary, when someone makes a comment about women’s sexual history having a negative impact on them, then the comment section explodes with people crawling out of the woodwork to dispute it. Clearly, even if they think the statement is factually wrong, it is causing quite a fuss. And it makes sense too. Let’s use something we both (presumably) agree is false to illustrate my point. Say…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:39 PM
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I think the fact that everyone seems to be focusing on dismantling that accusation speaks volumes to how much it emotionally affects people, even if they think it’s untrue. For the record, I once again stress that I don’t really believe that assertion either. My point in bringing it up was merely that comments like this, which seem on the surface to only be making an observational claim about dating dynamics, can still carry shame with them. If it didn’t carry shame, I doubt that both you and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:33 PM
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Ah okay. Imagine browsing the sub every hour of every day and then acting shocked when the content gets stale. And I thought I didn’t touch grass enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:27 PM
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You should be a politician. The whole time you’ve dodged the question of whether or not “sex damages pair bonding ability” is a shaming tactic. I know you know it is. That is what I’m saying, and if that’s a shaming remark, then so are the comments I highlighted about sexual inexperience in men being a sign of failure. The veracity of these statements is irrelevant: a woman who has had lots of sex would likely still be upset by claims that it damaged her ability to pairbond even if she was certa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:23 PM
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Your comment is a little too vague for me to understand what you’re trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:11 PM
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I’m not here to argue whether the sentiment is true or not. I have no dog in that fight. But it is a sentiment that is expressed, and I’m sure you’d count it as a shaming tactic. Because people seem to have a much stronger emotional reaction to it than they would if it were just some illogical assertion, like saying the earth is flat. Also interesting that you feel the need to dispute the claim about the character of sexually experienced and (typically) women, but had no qualms about the mirror …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:09 PM
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I think the reason I struggle so much is that letting go of the anger and resentment makes it feel like I’m giving up, and just acquiescing to a world that puts me down and makes me feel less than them. I admire your resilience. I live the best life I can, but unfortunately romance and affection are things I deeply desire, so I don't know if I'd even be able to say that I’m living a good life. I have other accomplishments, but they don’t detract from the pain of loneliness and being unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:02 PM
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Is it not sl*t shaming if one speculates that “lots of repeated casual sex encounters leads to damaged ability to pairbond”? It’s more nuanced than just “eww a hoe”, but at the end of the day it’s still shaming an individual for his or her sexual history, regardless of whether there is rational thought behind it or just malice. Likewise with the virgin shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:57 PM
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I do actually want to hear this, and I thank you for the comment. I let my emotions get the best of me sometimes, but at the end of the day I agree with the sentiment that adding hate only makes the world worse for everyone. It’s very challenging to not fall into this trap as an older virgin, so I’m still struggling to learn to “turn the other cheek”, as it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:53 PM
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There was a thread yesterday saying the opposite, that virgins should still try to go after women their own age because it’s not a death sentence. And loads of the replies were still shaming virgin men by saying that if they’ve reached 30, then they probably have serious flaws and won’t ever be able to attract a woman. I can pull up the thread if you didn’t see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:49 PM
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I’ve been seeing a lot of virgin shaming on this sub again lately. I wonder if it’s in response to slt shaming. If it is, then it’s a terrible strategy though, because it just makes me want to slt shame in retaliation. It’s a vicious cycle.!’ It’s also funny how “blckpill” content is not allowed”, but there are loads of comments and posts about how a 30 year old virgin is hopeless or whatever. I guess it’s only an issue I* make these kinds of hopeless statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 03:38 PM
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Yes, I am trying to lose my virginity and failing. But I don’t think that being a virgin is a factor in my failures. The reasons for my struggles are the same as they’ve always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:54 PM
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No, it’s not. But I’d say it counts as being an older virgin. I think the statistic is that around 95% of people have lost their virginity by age 25, so I’m well behind the curve at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:46 PM
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Well duh, if I could get dates, I probably wouldn’t be a 26 year old virgin lol. My point is that I’ve never encountered anyone irl say it would be a dealbreaker. Most don’t actually care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:27 AM
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Your pfp is quite fitting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:15 AM
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Well, I still never get any dates, but when I speak to women casually about it, they say it’s not that big of a deal and wouldn’t care. I’ve never been ridiculed for it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:07 AM
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Whenever I hear this, I just think people have shit taste in games. Spider-Man 2 is fun as hell, Mario Wonder is fun as hell, Tears of the Kingdom is fun as hell, and Super Mario RPG’s remake is still fun. If you’re tired of playing generic games, stop playing generic games.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:05 AM
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Some people resent their parents because their expectations were too high, or because they suffered abuse, or because their parents were neglectful, or because their parents didn’t even love them. There are a million reasons why someone might have a rocky relationship with one’s parents, and honestly in the grand scheme of all these things, being forced to go to church and read religious text isn’t that awful. There are worse ways religion has been forced on children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 06:00 AM
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I remember when I was a teen and daydreamed all the time about cheesy romance, listened to all the obnoxious love songs there were, and wondered when it would happen to me. Ten years later, and I don’t wonder anymore. I’m just an empty husk now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:56 AM
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Yikes, talk about entitlement. Have those women realized there’s more to life than sex? Maybe their husbands are sensing their toxic personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:52 AM
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How ugly am I if gay guys don’t hit on me either?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:49 AM
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The “law” is finally starting to catch up with me. I’m back from a 30 day ban for being an inc*l, and I imagine it won’t be long til I’m permabanned. It’s been an honor shitposting with you all 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:47 AM
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I’ve found that out in the real world, women are a lot less harsh about this sort of thing than the jaded users on this sub. Speaking anecdotally as an older virgin myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:29 AM
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It’s always the same old story. “I’d date a shorter guy but it just so happens…” I don’t really care unless a woman is actually with a guy who is short. Otherwise it’s all just talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:30 AM
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Yeah, it wouldn’t be an issue if it weren’t a requirement for so many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:27 AM
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Not the same height, but not tall enough either. Women almost always go for a guy significantly taller than she is. Just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:26 AM
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Yeah, this supports my point. People here will say “oh, just find someone shorter! There are plenty of women below 5’6!” But they don’t account for the fact that a 5’4 woman is going to think I’m practically the same height as her, which will turn most of them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:57 AM
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Ever notice how most guys with girlfriends aren’t just taller, but like a full head taller? That’s nearly 6 inches. So if you’re 5’6 like me, the max height I could realistically hope for is like 5’ even. That’s such a small percentage of the population where I live, and that’s before taking into account literally anything else, like personality, compatibility, and other physical requirements. I haven’t fully given up yet, but it pisses me off how truly small my chances are just because of my ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:47 AM
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My favorite cope tbh is pretending sex isn’t real. Like, it’s all just some big government conspiracy to make us feel miserable. Porn is all just some elaborate CGI, vaginas aren’t even real, and babies really do come from storks!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:00 AM
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lol don’t flatter yourself. It doesn’t matter what your own attractiveness is. Even 3/10’s on Tinder won’t settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:39 AM
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If the guy matched with you at all, he would pretty much have to be at least 8/10. Normal guys do not have any success on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:33 AM
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Yeah, clearly we just need the halo effect to kick in for online spaces too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:29 AM
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Every once in a while, I wonder if I’m actually just blue pill. And then I read crap like this, and I’m reminded that I’m definitely not. I listen to women and have conversations with them plenty. I sometimes even find it easier to talk to women than to men. And yet I am extremely unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:28 AM
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Press X to doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:25 AM
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Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:22 AM
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“Incels” below 21 are almost always fakecels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:21 AM
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ya’ll Ya all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:03 AM
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Lmao the female incel equivalent is a woman who is married with kids. Can’t make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:56 AM
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Fair enough. I’m definitely not normal, so I wouldn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:06 PM
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Good point. I think I probably will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:08 PM
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I’ve been wondering again if I might be on the spectrum. I’m sensitive to loud noises, have very focused, specific interests and don’t enjoy much else, have a hard time relating to people, etc. But the one time I asked a psychiatrist about it, she dismissed it pretty quickly. I’m wondering if it might be a good idea to try asking another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:36 PM
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Never before have I been so upset by a comment I fundamentally agree with. There goes what little sense of self esteem I had.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:11 PM
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Is virginity even seen as a red flag in women? Isn’t it generally valued?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:07 PM
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This post just sounds like a man larping to validate his own insecurities. And I say that as someone who also has these insecurities. Just look at the post history; it’s hard to believe this person exists. And even if she does, clearly these posts are meant as nothing more than bait. Don’t know how people fall for it tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:02 PM
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The issue is female hypergamy. The 0/10 women do not want their male counterparts. I have reached out to women in the past from foreveralonewomen and femcels; they all ignore or reject my attempts to get to know them. Hell, the sub for FA women even went private for a while because too many men were trying to ask them out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:54 AM
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Some of us come to the blackpill, not because we don’t want to try anything, but because we’ve been trying all the typical advice for years to no effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:50 AM
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And about as many people have made money from gambling too!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:40 AM
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“You’ve never had an empty moment in your entire life, have you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:50 PM
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“Well, a boy’s best friend is his mother.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:40 PM
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We resort to those things because we’ve given up hope on women genuinely wanting us. Obviously I’d prefer a real, loving wife over an AI simulacrum, but the latter is sadly more realistic of a wish in the year 2023. Besides, if I ever do find someone, it would probably be because I would have to settle. Why is it so unreasonable to expect women to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:56 PM
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Hearing the jannies complaining about the incel problem on this sub gives me such a power trip lol. Just the mere existence alone of men like me pisses them off so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:52 PM
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I’m blackpilled and I’ve found that I can generally get away with voicing my opinion, as long as I do it in a nuanced way. Maybe it’s just because the mod team is understaffed, but I’ll enjoy it while I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:11 PM
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I’ve seen fat women get into relationships. I’ve seen ugly women get into relationships. I’ve seen mentally disabled women get into relationships. All without effort. If your friends aren’t getting attention, that just means it’s not the attention they desire. They could be with a guy, but it would be their male equivalent, and their standards are too high for that. As an incel, the reason lonely men and lonely women don’t get together is always the lonely women. They’re always rejecting guys li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:57 AM
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This is bullshit. Men and women’s difficulties and struggles are compared in every other arena, often when men have it easier. That’s what a lot of feminism is built around. If you think men and women’s issues shouldn’t be compared, then why is there so much discourse centered around how women are performing in the job market in comparison to men (see the wage gap for example)? You reap what you sow. Women introduced the comparisons between the sexes into the discourse, and now you’re unhappy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:51 AM
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lol no there aren’t. I’ve debated this a lot on this forum actually. Every woman, no matter how ugly, can receive validation and be desired. If you don’t believe me, look up the pig woman experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:20 AM
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There’s a lot to respond to here, so I probably won’t hit everything. Again, I’m not suggesting that the struggles of these bottom 5% are reflective of society at large. However, I can compare them to how women at a similar level experience life. And what’s extremely telling is that there is no female analogue of these men. There are no women at all who cannot find any sexual attention, any validation from men. You also spent a good deal of time talking about men who are voluntarily virgins at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:18 AM
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Whatever the causes may be, the fact that there are no female incels speaks volumes on whether it’s just as difficult for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:58 AM
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I doubt it. Plenty of incels think of themselves as having garbage genetics, so I imagine normal men also have similarly low views of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:42 AM
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Can you define what bottom tier men are? Sure. I think it’s a thorny issue to isolate what the causes are, so I tend to focus instead on the outcome. I’m talking about the men who are virgins later in life, say above the age of 25. These are not common by any means, but they do make up roughly 5% of the population. These are the men who have no options, other than exploiting a meth head, I guess. But that’s not just a bad option like what women have, it’s actively not an option. Besides, even if…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:22 AM
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Women having other issues in dating does not imply that their issues are comparable in severity. Your reasoning is faulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:00 AM
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And we have no standards because we have no options. It’s a chicken and egg situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:55 AM
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Lmao imagine judging someone’s entire personality based off of one venting post on Reddit. Let me turn this around. You seem quick to make ad hominems. You must get no attention irl either. Don’t worry though; if you improve your personality more, then maybe you’ll be more dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:55 AM
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It is still a man vs. woman thing. It’s just easier to compare at the bottom strata of both genders. Bottom-tier men get no options whatsoever, and are likely to never receive any validation whatsoever. Bottom-tier women can get all kinds of validation through social media, apps, body positivity, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:52 AM
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Nah, women’s standards are just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:49 AM
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Lonely women don’t even try while lonely men are constantly putting themselves out there on apps or in public and getting rejected over and over? Somehow, this doesn’t really make me view lonely women in a better light.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:40 AM
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Do you have anything specific in mind? I’ve never come across anything that suggested there are any women out there who actually struggle with dating. They might be lonely, but not to the extent that they would rather date anyone than be lonely. Men would rather date anyone than be lonely, so I feel like it’s safe to conclude that male loneliness is more severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:39 AM
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Cool to see nearly a quarter identifying with blackpill. No matter how much people try to suppress it or deny it, that doesn’t change that men are starting to wake up to the hopeless dating landscape. purge week is on hiatus Literally 1984
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:34 AM
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Interesting approach haha. I’m white, but I apparently look racially ambiguous, so maybe I should give them a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:20 PM
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Okay, follow-up dumb question: is tighter more or less gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:14 PM
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Woman moment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:07 PM
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Unironic question: would I come across as gay if I wore a turtleneck? I’m trying to branch out my fashion style a bit, but I also have a soft voice and already seem kind of effeminate to most. I wouldn’t normally care what others think, but I feel like coming across as the wrong orientation would only worsen my already dismal dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:06 PM
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Actually, I’m a goodie two-shoes who never violates the rules 🤓 Except the “no woe is me” rule. I’ll violate that rule like it’s the concept of human rights in Sudan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:19 AM
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Oh, you’re back. Did you get banned or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:13 AM
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Dads can be anything: wise, stupid, caring, distant, etc. If I had a daughter, I’d probably disapprove if she started dating some attractive Chad type. It doesn’t make my decision any wiser just because I had a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:07 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/9bxci5xiv82c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1be9f64fe385c2ba8192dbc4101beb6b494e657d Similar energy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:03 AM
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This is heart-breaking to read, man. I can kind of relate, but I imagine you have it 10x harder than I do. I hope you can find another pet to give you that same level of acceptance that you deserve. You are good enough, even if no one else says that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:00 AM
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Feels like the SpongeBob scene of Manray trying to convince Patrick he found his wallet. I genuinely think some people here are denser than cartoon characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:58 AM
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Kyrie eleison
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:53 AM
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I’m shocked and appalled that the mods chose to do other things on Thanksgiving than police this sub for the full 24 hours 😞
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:50 AM
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I haven’t seen this copypasta in a few years. Almost makes me nostalgic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:55 PM
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Okay, fair enough. Not having a relationship until 23 is pretty long, so I’ll grant that gives you some insight into what it’s like to feel unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:45 PM
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Eh, I’d still argue that being alone for five years or even ten years is still fundamentally different from never having a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:35 PM
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I’ve never said it, but I might be tempted to do it intentionally just to piss Redditors off. Normal people don’t give a shit about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:50 AM
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I read a study recently that trans men are starting to catch up in terms of numbers to trans women supposedly. So my question is just… where are they? I’ve met loads of trans women, but I think I’ve only met one or two trans men in my life. Is it just me? Are they just better at passing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:49 AM
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As someone who personally agrees with that sentiment, I think it’s bogus. No one can compare the two. People who are unloved have no idea what it’s like to lose a loved one, and people who have lost a loved one have no idea what it’s like to go so long without ever being loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:35 AM
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“Women devote their time to maintaining their looks […] or we don’t get any positive male attention.” Lmao this is such bs and you know it. A woman could walk out the door with 0 make up, awful hair, and probably even bad hygiene and still have plenty of suitors. Unless you only count male attention as positive if it’s coming from 6’ dudes making 6 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:30 AM
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I’m not promoting it though? I’m saying it makes me feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:25 PM
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I feel like you probably made that up to make me feel better lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:59 PM
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Thanks for my daily dose of suifuel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:20 PM
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Very true. Women can afford to be picky. They’d rather be alone than settle for a guy in their league usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:06 AM
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I mean, I don’t think wanting a guy above 5’2 is incredibly high standards (unless she’s unattractive herself). It just is brutal to see how quickly you get rejected for being short. Nothing else matters if you’re too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:03 AM
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Interesting. Guess I just slipped through the cracks for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:11 AM
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Was the “no woe is me” rule always around? Or did I literally bitch so much on this sub that the mods had to add a new rule? Either way, I guess I’m gonna have to find a new sub to vent in now. The virgin sub is usually okay, but most of the time I don’t really have anything warranting a full post. And it’s more fun when I can shed light on how hopeless dating is to normies. The virgins there already know how brutal it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:37 AM
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Brutal height pill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:34 AM
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It is if you can’t get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:24 PM
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Does she write her own lyrics? I have a bit more respect for these stars if they at least do that. For example, I don’t actually hate Taylor Swift for this reason. I think I’ve heard Deja Vu, and I actually kind of hate that one lol. But I feel like I’ve been raining on your parade now, so I won’t harp much more on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:50 AM
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I’m genuinely curious what you think is better about her. To me, she seems like she’s just another basic bitch white girl teen singing about basic bitch white girl teen stuff. I would be able to identify more with a Martian than any of her songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:41 AM
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Could be worse. Hinge has Catholic as a separate option from Christian lmao. I genuinely didn’t even know how to answer it as an Orthodox Christian. I am a Christian obviously, but answering that way made it seem like I was a Protestant in that context, whereas I identify infinitely more with Catholics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:39 AM
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No incel content
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:36 AM
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I’m so sick and tired of people talking about this person. I think it’s just because I’m getting older, but I could not give less of a shit about these talentless popstars anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:25 AM
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Jesus. On second thought, maybe I’d rather not move to Redditland.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:36 PM
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Lmao sounds like I’m missing some lore on this one. What’s the reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:26 PM
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I wish I lived in Redditland. Here, everyone seems to know loads of short guys in relationships, loads of unattractive men who can’t keep women off them, and the only men who struggle are misogynists and weirdos. It sounds like a nice place over in Redditland. I think the last time I saw a guy my height (5’5) walking with a girl was back in August at a fair. Might have been his friend or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:03 PM
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My biggest two issues are that I’m pretty short (5’5) and very shy/socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:51 PM
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Oh really? That’s so weird. How else are people supposed to spend all the money they win from gambling?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:21 AM
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Isn’t it just Las Vegas? Not sure if there would be any cheap escorts there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:06 AM
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Things I learned from women on Reddit 1: Man bad, woman good
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:04 AM
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Lmao what an overdose of pinkpill does to a mf
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:58 AM
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Me pronouncing it both ways I’m playing both sides so I always come out on top
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:55 AM
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Do you live somewhere where it’s legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:54 AM
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As an incel myself, I definitely relate and used to think like this too. But it’s important to realize that being a good person has effectively nothing to do with dating success, so we shouldn’t take our failures as criticisms of who we are as people. You can be a shitty person with tons of sex, or an amazing person with tons of sex. You can also be a shitty person who never gets laid and an amazing person who never gets laid. Now, don’t get me wrong, it still hurts a lot to feel that we have no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:52 AM
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Honestly, that seems plausible to me. I’ve had loads of roommates over the years, and I think only two have had girlfriends, let alone success with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:46 AM
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Damn, that’s intense. I just get hungry lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:05 PM
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Haha, well okay, everyone has their preferences. I just meant that a lot of people were saying they thought Mediterranean men were hot even here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:03 PM
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My father-in-law is pretty hot 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:27 PM
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Tfw you’re heritage is Greek but you still ended up ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:24 PM
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How do you people skip breakfast? I’m starving when I wake up in the morning. It’s easier for me to skip lunch than it is breakfast
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:23 PM
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Maybe we do agree and are just focusing on different aspects of this analogy lol. Take the Beastpill, everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:54 AM
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So much. I can’t pick one, so I chose two. I wish people acknowledged that some guys are completely screwed. You don’t have to be a misogynist piece of shit to have trouble with women. Sometimes all it takes it two really bad qualities that are hard to change: like being autistic and short, or shy and unattractive. If you don’t meet this minimum threshold for basic attractiveness, then the chances you’ll get any affection in life is practically nil. I also wish people acknowledged that while inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:49 AM
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I still disagree. Most men are less restrictive about their sexual partners then their romantic partners. So if they’d date Belle, they’d also be willing to sleep with her. Plain and simple, the average woman is never going to have a shortage of suitors. The second paragraph kind of agrees with my point though. The guys who look like LeFou know Belle would never give them a chance, so they call these Belles out on their BS about “just wanting a guy with a good personality.” No, you want a hot gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:41 AM
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I’ll take anything at this point. Ugly, fat, weird, doesn’t matter. As long as she actually likes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:36 AM
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No, most men are one of the unnamed characters in the background. They’re into Belle, but she doesn’t even register their existence. Most guys would be happy for Belle, but she still only wants a Chad, just a Chad with some quirk too him (Beast rather than Gaston).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:31 AM
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There is not a single woman alive who could not get laid. Back in the hey day of inceldom, people would edit pictures of women to give them pig noses and other gross features, make dating profiles for these women, and they would still get matches. Relationships aren’t easy for women necessarily, but you’re delusional if you think sex isn’t easy for women. Not that it’s a positive for women either, as the sex probably wouldn’t be that enjoyable, but acting like it isn’t an option mistakes the iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:17 AM
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How do you lurk in this community all the time and not get the joke he’s making?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:09 AM
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You triggered my trap card. I’m about to rant about how femcels cannot and do not exist now. Any woman could always get with a guy if she lowers her standards enough (not to say she should necessarily, but the option is there). In other words, her celibacy is voluntary. Conversely, plenty of ugly men could not find literally anyone to date them, fuck them, or even touch them with a five foot pole. Show me a supposed femcel, and I’ll show you a liar. I would almost certainly date her since I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:43 AM
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Unfathomably based. Thank you for actually being sensible lol. Only thing I might disagree with is the “every age group” part. I think once you reach 40 or so, it might technically be in men’s favor, as it starts getting harder for women to attract men with their looks at that age. Some still totally pull it off, but not everyone can. And the data reflects this, as that age range is when there finally start to be more single women than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:38 AM
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I don’t think my post was really about that anyway. I was just venting about the people who pretend unattractive women can have it just as hard as unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:35 AM
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And? I’m not talking about the average man’s experience here. I’m comparing the bottom tiers of both men and women, and low value women generally do not face as many issues with getting validation or even relationships as their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:29 AM
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I didn’t say you don’t have struggles. You just don’t have the same struggles as men. You don’t need to worry about a lack of validation, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:27 AM
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It’s kind of funny that one of the few privileges women have over men is being able to find dates and sex much easier, yet some will act like men have the advantage even there. Like, give me a break. It’s one of the most demonstrably false assumptions that you have to be seriously ideologically brainwashed to believe. Spend five seconds on Tinder and you’ll disprove the existence of “femcels.” And before anyone says it, I know that it can still be a struggle to find a guy who actually likes you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:51 AM
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I don’t think you can get an honest rating online as a woman. Either you’ll go to a white knight subreddit where they all rate you as drop-dead gorgeous in a competition to be the biggest simp, or you’ll get the other extreme where you post on an “honest” rating sub where they call you little better than a mule because you’re a woman and they’re pretty bitter about that. I can’t think of any place where you’d get a genuine assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:38 AM
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Someone who saw my pic called me a Chadlitelet, and it is the highest praise I have ever gotten lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:29 AM
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Are normal men’s numbers really that low too? That’s honestly kind of depressing. Are guys really even finding their dream partner, or is it just them coming to grips with “if I don’t stay with her, I might not get another chance for years?” It’s like a less extreme of an issue I’ve been thinking about lately. I can’t even find one woman to like me, but suppose I finally did find someone. What if I don’t like her back? I guess the right answer is to not stay with her if I don’t really care much …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:25 AM
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I don’t know much about this, but I feel like it’s important to find someone who specializes in autism if you have the condition. It’s a pretty significant factor that means most generic advice probably won’t be as effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:20 AM
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I like woolly mammoths if that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:18 AM
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I think it still shows a fundamental disconnect though. She is right that women don’t really think much about unattractive men, and thus they aren’t judged in the same way unattractive women are. But she seems to conclude that this means unattractive men have it better. We don’t; we just have different issues. We ugly men struggle more with actually finding someone to find us attractive. Because even though ugly women may be judged harshly, there will still generally be some guy who finds her be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:08 AM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:03 AM
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I’m not surprised that you may have met plenty of 30 year olds who are still single, but I struggle to believe that they have never had a relationship before. That’s extremely uncommon by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:59 PM
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“I know other people […] who didn’t have a relationship until their 30s.” You do? Where do these people hide? I’ve never met anyone except for me who has literally never even kissed a girl at my age, and I’m only 26. Maybe it’s a cultural thing? I live in the US for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:54 PM
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It’s really sad. Positivity and kindness from women is so alien to some men that they just can’t wrap their heads around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:51 PM
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That’s a nice story. I’m happy that you gave an awkward guy a chance. I was kind of hoping it might inspire me with hope for something similar to happen to me, but I don’t think I could see it happening. Usually when you try to make small talk as an ugly/awkward guy, you just get stories like this that happen to you. I’m just gonna keep minding my business at bookstores I think. Again though, thank you for sharing, and I’m glad you’re one of the few good people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:47 PM
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Did he ask you out? Or did you ask him out? And where did you two meet? I can kind of relate to the guy here, so I’m trying to figure out where I could even realistically meet a compatible woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:35 PM
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I’m 5’5.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:09 PM
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Being skinny is ugly if you’re also short. The only way short guys can compensate and look masculine is by being fit and muscular. I’ve heard some women say they find short (and strong) men attractive, and some women say they find skinny (and tall) men attractive, but never heard a woman who was attracted to a short, skinny guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:47 PM
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Perhaps. And perhaps if you were a man you would be more sympathetic about why some of us come to such insane suggestions. Just saying that there’s no solution to a truly existential crisis we’re facing feels about as awful as saying that there’s no solution to misogyny or that there’s no solution to climate change. Maybe it’s true, but the defeatism is soul-crushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 08:01 PM
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I believe that’s true for ODEs as well, no? And I suspect you would also have to check that your solutions you calculate actually satisfy continuity and differentiability. I’ve heard that can sometimes be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:57 PM
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Yeah, you’re right. I’m just acting sad and irrational. I don’t think there’s any real solution left for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:54 PM
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Then it’s a win-win lol. If it doesn’t help me get a girlfriend, maybe it’ll at least help me exit this life faster. Come to think of it, maybe I should pick up cigarettes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:58 PM
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It’s Joever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:29 PM
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No one wants to look at the average man. Women rate most men below average in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:19 PM
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Can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m wondering if I should take roids. A lot of people tell me I look weak and effeminate, and the gym isn’t helping that much. Ideally I would just find a way to go 6 hours a week, but it’s impossible to fit that much time into my schedule. I dunno man, it’s probably a bad idea, but I feel like I’m out of options. People even said that I pretty much don’t have much else I can improve either, so I guess I’m looksmaxxed at a 3/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:18 PM
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That’s the million dollar question. If we all agreed on what that was, this sub wouldn’t exist. Personally, I think you have to reach a certain looks threshold and also be decently charming or charismatic in some way. Both criteria are beyond my ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:41 PM
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For men, being desired by a woman either sexually or romantically is how we receive validation. Prostitutes do not desire their patrons; in fact they often detest them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:03 AM
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But there isn’t an objective sense of humor. You can’t know you’re funny. You are only funny, by definition, if others find you funny. It’s similar with the feeling of validation surrounding being attractive. If you are not attracting anyone, then you are not attractive, by definition. No amount of feeling positive about oneself is going to change that facet. It’s not unhealthy to disagree lol. That’s some echo chamber/thought policing bs. To clarify, I’m not saying self confidence or self valid…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:09 AM
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And other people here have said you’re their type too. It doesn’t mean much. Plus, most other people rate me a 5 max.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:53 AM
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I fundamentally disagree with your second paragraph. Validation without an external component is just delusion. If I think I’m really funny and no one else does, am I funny? If I think I’m a good person and no one else does, how appealing am I really? It’s a necessary step to have someone else find something appealing in you before you can start working on putting to rest those insecurities. This is actually one of the things I think is fundamentally different for men and women. Both internal an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:25 AM
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Bro, don’t act dense. Plenty of incels have hair. It’s not a magic solution to one’s problems, just like height isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:21 AM
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Favorite line from the gospels. It always moves me when I hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:20 AM
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Please do. I’ve pretty much only seen the heat equation and the wave equation. Tfw it’s easier to solve a PDE than it is to get a date :((
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:12 AM
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New pill just dropped. To get a woman, you just have to be a differentiale function bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:07 AM
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Just have hair bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:05 AM
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I don’t seek empathy to feel better about my situation personally. I seek empathy because virtually no women seem to understand why men feel so miserable about a lack of validation. I think it’s healthy for society if men and women can better understand each other. For instance, I’ve come to recognize that women don’t necessarily live life on easy mode just because they can get laid easily. I think it’s made me grow as a person, and it’s a shame that you don’t want women to gain similar insight …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:57 AM
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As OP spelled out, it’s a validation issue, not a sex issue. So no, paying for hookers isn’t going to help. They don’t actually want to fuck you; they just need money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:46 AM
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I agreed with most of your points except this one. Plenty of men do die from loneliness in a way, as it’s a common cause of suicide. It’s a little disheartening to hear you downplay these feelings as men just being “emotional.” Kind of like how men often downplay women’s issues by calling them overly “emotional.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:34 AM
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This study shuts down so many bluepilled arguments. This is huge tbh, and I’m surprised more people here aren’t talking about it. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:25 AM
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Disagree tbh. I have most of the rest of my life sorted out except for a relationship. I’m still absolutely miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:23 AM
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I think Jordan Peterson is just one of the few people who isn’t an incel to understand how much pain it’s causing men. He, like many of us, is searching desperately for some solution that could help those who are suffering, but sadly solutions as direct as that would be awful for women. So in a sense I don’t think he’s a horrible person for suggesting this; I just think it’s such an insidious problem in society that most of the would-be “solutions” are equally awful. Side note: this may be an ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:22 AM
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For some reason this place has been replaced with blackpillers instead of red pillers More men are waking up to the fact that most advice doesn’t work. Not the bluepill and not the redpill either. If you have to go to online forums to figure out how to find a woman who is interested, it’s already over for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:14 AM
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The rule is “no incel content,” and as another commenter pointed out, seems intentionally vague so that the moderators can be as arbitrary as they like about its enforcement. Usually I can get away with it, but apparently not last time :\
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:55 PM
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I agree. My point was that I didn’t even bring up the blackpill at all. I was just talking about my personal struggles, and it still got removed. That makes it seem like the mods’ problem is with virgins, not specifically the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:33 PM
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Can I use permavirgin then? I don’t know what the secret list of forbidden words is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:18 PM
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I don’t mind that. I think monitoring what you say is something one should do in any context. People who speak completely unfiltered are unhinged and unpleasant generally. My issue is that I thought the moratorium was on blackpill beliefs, not just being an incel generally. Everyone always says that they don’t take an issue with virgin men, just the incel beliefs. Well then why am I getting a comment removed for just bringing up that I’m an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:10 PM
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Smh the incel oppression will never end. I got my last comment removed simply because I mentioned the fact that I’m an incel. It didn’t even espouse any blackpill beliefs. No virgins allowed, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:01 PM
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They’re also only about 5% of the female population in America. It only 5% of women my age would even give me a chance, I’m really fucked (unfortunately not in the literal sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:01 AM
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I think reducing things to just one criterion is a little reductive to say the least. I could say something similar about height: if you’re 5’9 or more then there’s no reason to be depression. At the end of the day, I’m not having any luck with women, and that’s why I’m depressed. There doesn’t need to be any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:58 AM
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Damn, so my only shot is with women who are borderline dwarfs? It’s so over lol. Not sure how that doesn’t make me a truecels if those are my only options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:55 AM
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These are the sorts of nuanced, thoughtful comments that keep me coming back to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:35 AM
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Not without sacrificing a lot. I’m in academia, and it would kind of kill my ability to do research in a 3rd world country.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 06:00 AM
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There’s no way I’m a fakecel at 5’5 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:58 AM
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Inflating standards in real time lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:54 AM
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If I could relocate without losing my job (which is the one thing keeping me going), I probably would. I did an experiment once where I set my Hinge location to the Philippines, and it was crazy how I actually got matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:52 AM
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Thanks, but I do that already. I’m just painfully shy, so it doesn’t matter much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:50 AM
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While I highly disagree with your assessment of my looks, being called a chadlitelet is pretty much the highlight of my week. So thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:49 AM
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I’d be pretty stoked tbh. I’m not delusional; I know I’m no Chad. But if I found someone who even though I was a little above average, that would be serious lifefuel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:46 AM
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I didn’t know you were a “it just so happens” woman. At this point I’m not even sad about it; it’s just funny to me how many short women “just so happen” to end up with guys a lot taller than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:44 AM
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I hope I can get to the point where I can force myself to ignore it too. It ends up usually costing me valuable time, and I almost lost everything one time my depression was really bad. Took me 3 years to climb out of the hole that I fell into, and I’m scared that I might fall into it again one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:40 AM
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I’m sorry to hear about your family situation. I’m not too sure I understand what you mean by building a community. Do you mean forming friends? I’m working on that, but that’s never come easy for me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:24 AM
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That doesn’t work too well for me. Maybe it’s because my work is mental rather than physical, so it’s easy to get distracted and ruminate. It usually goes the other way in fact: I struggle to keep up my work ethic sometimes on account of depression from loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:23 AM
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Thanks for my daily dose of wondering what the fuck is up with women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:13 AM
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It kinda sucks that there isn’t really a solution to depression if you’re a truecel. The only thing you can do is just try not to think about how you’re gonna die alone. Some weeks I can do an okay job of ignoring (like this week went alright for me), but you can’t run from your feelings forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:12 AM
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Oddly specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 03:46 AM
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Same here, but Tinder just makes things worse instead of better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:59 PM
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I’d rather have a partner than six figures any day of the week. Only PPD women could think this is a hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:37 PM
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Same. I’ll echo what other people are saying though that it might be an issue with your diet. That’s what I’m gonna try to fix at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:35 PM
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I’m sorry you’re feeling this way, man. I’ve been there and kind of still am in some ways. For some of us, there’s just nothing we can do to find a girlfriend, and we have to try to find other ways to be happy. It’s a really depressing thought, so I try to distract myself from it and just not think about it. Thinking about it only makes it worse. If you can, I’d recommend staying away from this and other dating-related subreddits (advice I should take too tbh). Do things you enjoy that take your…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:28 PM
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FYI: it’s case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:21 PM
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Why are you wasting your time with Tinder in 2023?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:19 PM
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No, I’m unattractive. I would assume it’s just a prank if it ever happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:17 PM
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Saved this post for the next time some idiot on here tells me “it’s fine to approach! Just talk about some shared interest!” I hate these kinds of women. At least his friend was a bro for sticking up for him. Edit: story might just be rage bait, which makes me feel better. But the fact that quite a few of the top comments are agreeing with OP’s supposed behavior in this story is still alarming. It’s also not an entirely unbelievable story based on the way the average cretin on 2X acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:03 AM
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I agree that it’s different. I wasn’t the one asking a man if he could relate to female issues lol. But my point is that’s not really anywhere near the kind of difficulty we men have to face in dating. It doesn’t get any easier to find the right partner as a man. We have to deal with the issue of scarcity and still try to find someone compatible. There’s no woman who can really struggle to even find a guy interested in her, contrary to what “femcels” claim.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 03:21 PM
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I’m here to spread incel awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:42 PM
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Yes, beggars can’t be choosers.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:03 PM
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You can, and a lot of the people here probably do. But they’re not actually incels, they’re volcels. As a truecel, I disagree with your second observation. I’d be ecstatic if an ugly woman were genuinely attracted to me. But no ugly woman ever wants an ugly man, so I never get the opportunity. I’m not rejecting them; they’re rejecting me.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:37 PM
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Nah, there are just too many fakecels floating around. Back in the good ol’ days, we gatekept them from the communities. Now it’s all these average 18 year olds who are “blackpilled” because Stacy rejected them once. A truecel would try to make a relationship work with anyone who would give them a chance, but no woman will due to hypergamy.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:36 PM
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To protect the world from devastation To unite all peoples within our nation To denounce the evils of truth and love To extend our reach to the stars above
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:10 PM
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I legit struggle to even believe the women who say they struggle with dating. Every woman I’ve ever known, whether attractive or not, could have a man at the snap of their fingers.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:05 PM
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It is and it isn’t. On the one hand, Orthodoxy shares a lot of theology and apostolic traditions with Catholicism (veneration of Mary, praying for saints to intercede, church hierarchy, no sola scriptura etc). On the other hand, Protestantism inherits a lot of Western traditions from Catholicism still, like original sin, scholasticism, and I think the eschatology are similar, whereas Eastern traditions are quite different in these respects. And the priests have long beards. That’s a pretty signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:06 PM
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Yes, transwomen have to undergo a lot of surgeries and procedures to effectively pass as female. But that’s not really about their womanhood, that’s more about the fact that they’re trans. I’m pretty confident that trans men also have to go through a long list of surgeries to effectively pass as a man. It might even be more, since there really isn’t a way to “dress as a man,” since most of men’s clothing is now appropriate for either sex to wear. My point is that if you want to control the varia…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:01 PM
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Okay, but don’t you see how that contradicts your previous assertion that women’s beauty standards are harsher. These people, as you say, receive loads of sexual attention after they transition. Maybe that doesn’t make life easier overall, but it does at least show that the beauty standards aren’t nearly as harsh. For a lot of trans women, they couldn’t meet the beauty standards as men, but they can meet the beauty standards as women, suggesting that those standards are lower or more attainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:34 PM
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Interesting. I searched this and probably found the study you’re referring to. It doesn’t seem to mesh well with my anecdotal experiences, but if more studies support these findings, then I am willing to accept that things are changing. However, the fact there ever was such an imbalance seems to agree with my overall point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:25 PM
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says a non sequitur refuses to elaborate leaves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:54 PM
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Tfw you’re Orthodox Christian, so men still outnumber women in your parish :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:49 PM
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Ah yes, I’m looking for an excuse to not put effort into my clothing even though I am already putting effort into my clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:45 PM
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Luckily, women with no boobs or hips can still get tons of men who find them attractive. Short, unattractive guys often can’t find anyone who thinks they’re attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:38 PM
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Same, I’m so tired of trying to build a huge social circle. I just want one woman to share my life with, not a dozen friends I see once a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:35 PM
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Disagree tbh, I think being skinny is the worst a man can be. Sure, obesity is an issue for men, but being a bit fat is probably better than being skinny. I’ve heard plenty of women who say they’re into dad bods or Teddy bears or whatever. I’ve literally never encountered a woman who was into a skinny man unless he was also tall and lanky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:31 PM
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Your friend is about to get blackpilled. Actually, I’m not sure if it’s even possible for a woman to ever accept the blackpill. I’ve never seen it happen. She’ll probably say it must be your shitty personality, even though she’s your friend lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:26 PM
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I’ve noticed that a lot of women tend to only socialize with Chads, and this skews their perception of men. So it’s fairly likely that you’re around a bunch of Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:10 PM
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If dressing well were an important factor to men’s SMV, then they would be doing it. Most men don’t care about it because it doesn’t make much of a difference. I dress fairly well, and it made me go from like a 2.8 to a 3 lol. It doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:07 PM
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I wish I lived in this same reverse reality you do. I’ve never met a woman who showed any signs of attraction to me, whereas I find women with pretty much all those characteristics attractive. I know I’m a sample of just one person, but every single metric we ever use to demonstrate how much less choosy men are never seems to be good enough for you people. You ignore the stats on online dating, you ignore the fact that there are way more male incels than female incels. I don’t know what could ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:56 PM
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Interestingly, there are many more MtF trans individuals than FtM trans folk. So clearly a lot of men are looking at women’s side of things and come to the same conclusion that maybe it’s a little easier over there. I think most of the cases where a trans person regrets transitioning are also in the FtM case, almost as if it’s worse being a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:51 PM
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Those actions are all things you have control over, so I’d argue that’s still easier. Male beauty standards are often tied to immutable genetics like face and height. Just about every woman can be beautiful with enough work put in; plenty of men are just unattractive and we can’t do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:41 PM
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I don’t know if I’d say I hate women or anything, but I’m bitter and resentful towards women because I can’t get a girlfriend. It’s really as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:38 PM
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I’m at the point where I don’t even like seeing women in public anymore. It’s a constant reminder of what I’ll never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:34 PM
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Schopenhauer is basically the original incel, so it’s very likely it’s him. Dude was too blackpilled for his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:33 PM
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This sort of willful ignorance is the female version of men going “where is this misogyny that people talk about? I don’t see it anymore.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:09 AM
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Lol women with autism are much more likely to be romantically paired than their male counterparts. I don’t know why people like you pretend that every male issue is always felt just as much by women. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:08 AM
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I don’t think it’s unimportant. A lot of short men are clearly struggling. Sure, maybe most end up with someone eventually, but that’s such a reductive view of the issue. I don’t think it’s unimportant if so many short men feel unwanted and miserable. I’m so tired of people using all these tactics to downplay how awful it is to not even have a chance at dating with many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:15 PM
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“So I’m not saying that women are lying.” I never said women were lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:09 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong comment? I didn’t say anything about it being over for all short men. I am responding to how people often dismiss short men’s struggles with dating by saying “oh, plenty of women just want a guy who’s taller.” It often isn’t this simple, and a lot of people don’t seem to realize how easy it is to get automatically disqualified by the average woman when you’re below 5’9.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:04 PM
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I don’t normally put too much stock into the redpill’s mantra of “watch what she does, not what she says,” but it came to mind while watching a video by Jubilee. So many women, especially on here, say that they just need a man to be taller than them. But how much can one trust that? How well can anyone really discern that well from across the room if someone is taller than they are or not? For example, in the video, the woman rates one of the men a 3 because it’s a “pet peeve” of hers when the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:45 PM
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Nope, even ugly women’s standards are too high. They only want some average or above. I’m a bottom-tier man, and even the unattractive women ignore me, both on apps and irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:43 PM
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I guess it depends how believable it is, of course. If it’s basically just a human-sized sex toy, then it’s not really of much value to me. I want to be tricked into thinking I’m with a real woman… just one who actually desires me for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:12 AM
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I’m an incel and I’d want one. I’ve realized that no one is actually ever going to want me, but this would be a nice way to feel the illusion of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:11 AM
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Why do the hypotheticals here always bring up sex bots? If you’re thinking about a sci-fi replacement for human contact, why not go for virtual reality girlfriends? Would probably be cheaper and you could really have limitless possibilities with that. As long as there’s some way to simulate touch, it would be completely perfect in my eyes. Hell, even if there isn’t that, just being able to go on dates with a virtual character who feels real would be like heaven to me. Just seems so much better t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:54 AM
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You’re right. They’re not particularly close though. But I met them through work. I don’t know why things worked out this time tbh. I’ve spent almost my entire life without friends, so I don’t understand when it finally does work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:43 AM
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That’s part of it, but I can still end up alone even if I do that. When I was in college, I went to a bunch of clubs every week, and I never made any friends from them. Same thing with church. I’m just destined to be alone. We like to pretend we have control over our lives, but that’s just a feel-good story. We’re all at the mercy of our predetermined nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:40 AM
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard of any history fairs happening near me. I actually have gone rock climbing a few times. Not really my thing, but I’ll go with my friend from work. Might try hiking too. Bigger issue is that going out doesn’t really help me. I just attend the event and don’t talk to anyone, and no one ever talks to me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:28 AM
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Yeah, I’ve been through CBT therapy before. I sadly don’t really enjoy any social hobbies that much. I grew up without any friends, so I naturally developed interests that I could do alone: learning ancient history, playing single-player video games, and my career are my only real interests. Whenever I go out and do other things, I have to sort of pretend I enjoy actually doing it rather than only going with the express hope of meeting new people and ideally a potential partner. It just sucks be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:31 AM
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She’s being polite for calling you a creep?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:05 PM
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I’ve been putting myself out there and attending social events for years. I just can’t pretend to be extraverted. I get stuck in my head half the time, and the other half people just don’t enjoy my presence all that much. I have a small group of friends if that counts as “finding my people.” But a small social circle isn’t enough to find a girlfriend. You have to have friends of friends and constantly meet new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 04:25 AM
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That’s an important distinction. I definitely agree that being outright obese is the body type to have. Nobody is attracted to that of either sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:55 AM
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Aren’t you engaged to someone? I don’t think that matters much to guys. There’s always someone out there for any woman. But nobody is interested in a guy unless he has minimal flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:49 AM
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True. From my POV, it actually seems like the opposite. I’ve heard a few girls (not the majority, but a decent amount) say that they’re into big guys and dad bods and so on. While rare, it seems to honestly be more common than any girl saying she’d like to be with a skinny guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:47 AM
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I agree that I’d rather struggle with personality than looks. If you have looks, people will put up with your bullshit regardless (not you specifically, any person). But I have neither lol. And people never really change all that much. Everyone is pretty much the same person fundamentally from 25 onward.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:23 AM
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Thanks for the advice, but I was just listing examples. I’m not on the spectrum luckily. I’m “just” really shy and uncomfortable around people. Still, I’ve been working to fix those for most of my life. I agree that you can improve them marginally, and I think I have gotten a bit better over the years. But at the end of the day, I’m still never going to be outgoing, and that’s basically a requirement to finding a woman these days, especially if you don’t have good looks going for you (I definite…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:21 AM
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Thanks, but I’ve been on the journey of self improvement for years. It’s a long road that never leads anywhere frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:11 AM
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Okay I guess. To me, scrawny just is a synonym for weak, but maybe I’m mistaken about that. My point is that I have never met a single woman who desires my body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:59 AM
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I’m too lazy to make a post about this, but it really sucks that some guys are just born the wrong way and have to spend a life alone because of it. Bluepill usually counters this by saying that it’s really all about personality, but I think this just reinforces my point. We act like personality is completely malleable in contrast to looks, but I honestly think it might actually be easier to change looks than it is to improve your personality. How many people have you met that have actually subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:58 AM
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Exactly. I have heard a few women say they like skinny guys over the years, and without fail, they always mean skinny and tall. There’s pretty much no market for skinny and short.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:46 AM
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“I like skinny, scrawny guys.” While I know that she was just saying that to make them go away, damn it felt nice to hear that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:30 AM
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^ Redditors when you say literally anything without a peer-reviewed study. Give me a break lol. Besides, I specifically narrowed my scope to the comment section of this particular thread. I didn’t even claim that most women worldwide dare like this (though I also feel pretty confident that is true). If you disagree with my assessment, feel free to scroll through the thread and compare the number of comments that would date a shy man and those that would not. Tally them up and report back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:20 PM
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Okay, that’s based as long as you’re consistent about how you view shy people of either gender. I personally don’t view shy people in such a negative light, but I guess that’s just because I’m shy myself naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:37 PM
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Yeah, I don’t get why people always bring up “personality” in contrast to looks when frankly, it’s mostly just as set in stone as looks. Hell, it’s probably easier to change your looks than your personality. If you’re born the wrong way, you end up alone, that’s how it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:36 PM
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Respectfully disagree. I’ve been trying for years to fix my shyness. I’ve gotten better at socializing, but I’m still fundamentally a shy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:32 PM
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forcing young, healthy people get vaccines despite them being healthy Uhhhh yeah? That’s what vaccines are meant for? They’re not meant for people who are already sick; they’re designed to make sure a healthy person does not get sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:11 AM
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Do you feel similar levels of irritation and distaste for shy women? Do you view them as cowards and “statues” too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:00 AM
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Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:58 AM
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Tfw you’re 26 and still awkward. Oh well, I already knew it was over for me. I just wish genetic dead ends like me didn’t have to go through life. If I could’ve clocked out at 18, that would have been better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:55 AM
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That said, most of the comments from women here also express a similar feeling of not being attracted to shy men. It makes sense, since dating is a social activity, but it still fucking sucks that you just lack one of the most validating experiences of being a human just because you can’t help being shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:50 AM
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It’s funny that people always tell us shy guys to just go after shy women since they’re more similar. The issue is that shy women and extroverted women both tend to prefer outgoing men. It’s like height: short women and tall women both prefer (usually) tall men, leaving the short men with nobody. So if you’re short and shy, you’re really fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:46 AM
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It’s just really surprising to me how relatively easy it is for normal people to get dates and numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 12:25 AM
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Thank you for demonstrating how shitty and unsympathetic to lonely men people can be. This is actually a good way to counter OP’s claim by demonstrating one of the things society can do to help the issue: encourage and promote care and understanding over rude generalizations and hatred like your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:25 PM
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Try to get better at empathizing. You can be a better person than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:20 PM
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“We do understand the problem.” Proceeds to demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:19 PM
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There are plenty of things society could do to help lonely men that don’t involve removing women’s autonomy or instituting Sharia law. I don’t know why we always take the most insane incel ideas like state-mandated waifus as if they’re the only possible thing that can be done. People seem to really lack creativity on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:16 PM
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Most men don’t put effort into their pictures because it’s not rewarded. Women put effort into their pictures because it is rewarded. It’s really as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:12 PM
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I fully agree, but the conversation here is currently about online dating lol. That’s why it’s being brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:09 PM
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Women don’t have to lower their standards, but it’s probably a good exercise in self awareness to realize that their standards are indeed often high. They might be less likely to come up with bs theories like “maybe the men are just struggling because their photos suck.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:08 PM
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Lol he’s not berating them for taking selfies. And he’s probably not talking about the high-effort ones where she looks nice. Hell, he’s probably not even complaining at all. People seem to have forgotten what OP claimed. OP is suggesting that one possible reason that men don’t get matched online is because of low quality pictures. But if that were a significant factor, then it would stand to reason that plenty of women would struggle getting matches too, since there are also a lot of profiles w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:05 PM
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That would only be possible to give if he’d actually set foot in the Philippines. Let the man roleplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:42 AM
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It’s so wild to me that normal people can just go out and meet someone and exchange numbers just like that. Sorry for detailing. I don’t actually have anything to contribute to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:40 AM
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They were nice people. I was just drunk and sad, so I vented.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:27 PM
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Mogs me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:20 AM
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No, it’s because you’re good looking. Cut the BS. The competition on online dating is insane. You have to at least clear the looks threshold before anything else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:15 AM
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This just goes to show that I have even less value than an obese guy. I’m a fucking waste of a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:04 AM
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Been too long since I’ve been to a party. Forgot how repulsive I am to people. Nobody likes talking to me because I’m a fucking loser. Sorry I’m really drunk right now. It just never gets any better. It’s never gonna happen. What kind of fucking psycho woman would look at me and think this is a guy I could spend my life with. I can just see it in women’s eyes whenever I talk to them how badly they wish I weren’t there. All the bluepill shit about socializing is just cope. I’m too ugly and too mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:02 AM
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Lol I meant that it’s normal for me, not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:17 PM
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No worries bro, there’s plenty of other things for the ladies not to like. One more won’t make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:14 AM
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Crying myself to sleep like normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:14 AM
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Always knew my voice was high-pitched, but I measured it today and realized just how bad it was. New insecurity unlocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:09 AM
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It genuinely makes me a little sad to see you so enthusiastic about this kind of stuff. I guess it’s good that you’re happy at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:04 AM
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How is that not privilege? Let’s consider another scenario to see if we’re on the same page about privilege. Two young kids are virtually identical, and both really want a pony for Christmas. The one has rich parents, while the other is dirt poor. So when the former asks for a pony, his parents give it to him, no questions asked. Whereas the other is told that it’s unreasonable to expect something so extravagant when his parents can barely put food on the table. The rich kid is surely privileged…
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:06 AM
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I appreciate the kind intent. But what I’m trying to say is that I may be a 5/10 facially, but they ignore the fact that I’m also short and high-pitched. That has to drop me down to at least a 3/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:38 AM
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Your premise is flawed. Only really hot guys get into relationships by fucking first and then later realizing they actually have feelings. For most guys, they have to first go on enough dates to get to the relationship stage, and then they get sex. So no, it’s not “first sex and then dating” for most guys. It’s the other way around, and using your same logic, this would imply that if a man is dating, then and only then is he also fucking. If you dispute this, then I think you’re grossly overesti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:32 AM
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Seinfeld also has a bunch of late 20s/early 30s adults (forgot their ages) who are in a tight-knit group that meet almost every single day. It’s not exactly an accurate depiction of reality lol. It’s not exactly 0 men who can get sex but not a relationship, but it’s pretty minor. I’ve never really encountered anyone like this irl, and I’ve only heard it a handful of times on the forever alone subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:22 AM
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Lol I did not claim half those things. What I said was that men who can’t get girlfriends usually can’t get laid either. And frankly, I’m going to UNO Reverse you here and say you haven’t listened to enough men talking about their issues if you doubt this. I am a virgin man who spends a lot of time communicating with other virgin men, so I can personally attest to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:07 AM
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Dude, it’s like 51% men to 49% women or something. It’s really not that. I don’t think transparently polygynous relationships are common enough to contribute, but it is highly possible that men who date multiple women in secret could be contributing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:05 AM
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I guess my point is just that the pic doesn’t really fully capture how fucked I am when seen in person. It’s not obvious that I’m short or high-pitched from that. There are probably some other visual things that a picture doesn’t fully showcase as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:03 AM
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If I go any lower, I’ll be below ground digging up corpses. You advocating for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:02 AM
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Your highest was my lowest. I’m fucked. I’m barely even a real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 01:00 AM
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Not really for men. This is definitely true for women, but nearly every single man who can’t get a relationship, also can’t get casual sex either. I think it just shows that if a man is attractive enough for sex, then it’s usually really easy for him to find someone compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:52 AM
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I’ve posted on alts to the rating subs, and even the “brutally honest” ones always sugarcoat too much. They tell me I’m like a 5/10, and maybe my face is, but I’m short with a squeaky voice, so there’s no way I’m above a 3/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:49 AM
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Lol, yes there is. As someone at the bottom, the bottom-tier women don’t want bottom-tier men. Might be more likely to succeed as an average man though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:47 AM
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I’m kind of glad this exists. People always seem to gloss over how unattractive high pitched voices on men are, and I unironically think it’s at least part of the reason why I’m an incel. For the record, I got an average of 140 Hz. It never began for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:43 AM
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Mine was 140. Fucking kill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:42 AM
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Yeah, it all depends on context and setting. I’m in academia, specifically math, and most of my female colleagues are in relationships, whereas most of my male ones are not. I imagine it might be totally different in another setting or context. What is weird though is that it still seems like most of the time, women are more likely to be in relationships than men. I can’t really figure out what’s causing this, other than potentially their propensity to date older men, leaving the current young g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:40 AM
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Tbf it’s probably different people. You win some over with the low hanging fruit, and you win others over by geeking out and actually putting in some effort into your claim. And now I’m realizing I’m agreeing with someone who’s insanitymaxxed, which probably isn’t a good sign for my mental health…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 12:36 AM
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Women don’t make fun of incels??? Bitch, what planet do you live on?
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:20 AM
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Not to mention that OP literally posted several links right at the beginning of the post showcasing how much more women shame men for having preferences.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:17 AM
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The context here isn’t “who can get away with having preferences and still find a partner.” We’re talking about who is “allowed” to have preferences in the sense of not facing social backlash for expressing them. You didn’t address this at all. All you’ve managed to point out is that women are privileged in the SMP, which most of us already knew.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 02:15 AM
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I really want to. Looks fun as hell!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:24 AM
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Interesting. I knew there was a distinction, but I thought it was more of a subset type of thing. As in, not every Protestant is an Evangelical, but every Evangelical is a Protestant. I can’t even be bothered to look at Wikipedia for this though, so I’ll take your word on it. Every church started after 1054 is Protestant to me anyway lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:46 PM
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Wait, I thought evangelicals were a type of Protestant? I’m Orthodox, so I have trouble understanding all these various splits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:24 PM
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Good question. It’s hard to narrow down the exact cause, which is why some incels think it’s 100% looks. I’m not that simple-minded, but it certainly doesn’t help that I’m 5’5, can’t grow facial hair, have a childish voice, and have a droopy eye. Besides that, what’s probably the biggest issue for me is social anxiety. I’ve been working on it for years, and I’m finally starting to see some small progress, but it’s an uphill battle with a limited social network and little interpersonal relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:21 PM
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Admins self reporting as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:21 AM
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Gotta be careful about hating cucks on Reddit. You’re insulting half the mods and admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:18 AM
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I dunno, I’m a straight guy, but I’ve recognized that it’s unlikely I’ll ever be wanted in any capacity. I considered going to a gay bar just to be hit on and desired for sex. I feel like it would be pretty nice if I got that sort of experience throughout my life, especially from the sex I’m attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:15 AM
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Lol I’m too invested in this shithole subreddit. I was also legit wondering if something bad happened to you. Good to hear you didn’t OD or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:13 AM
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I used to think it would be way worse to be a betabux than to be alone. Turns out, being alone for your entire adult life can actually be much, much worse than you think it is. So while I doubt my career path will make me enough money to attract a gold-digger, I’ve realized now that I’m too low-value to hope for anything better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:55 AM
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Surprisingly based response for a non-incel sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:15 AM
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I could never do a threesome. I’d just be too insecure to see another guy fuck my partner. And I would feel too guilty to ever have a mff threesome but never do a fmm threesome. I think the only way it would ever work is if my partner were a bi woman who highly preferred women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:11 AM
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As a guy, this is absolutely not how most guys feel lol. Don’t get too worried about a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:08 AM
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Something that always confuses me is when virgins are insecure about their dick size. Like, I’m a virgin with a small dick, but no woman is ever gonna see it. So why would it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:05 AM
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While sizequeen women are rare, I have heard they’re more common in the gay community, which must be hard. Just what I’ve heard though, so make of it what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:03 AM
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What’s so wrong with discussing incel issues? Whenever one of us brings up the fact that we’re virgins, our issues are dismissed out of hand for some reason. As someone who is a hopeless virgin, I kind of agree with OP. I’m starting to develop ED, but I literally don’t care. I’m clearly not going to ever have real sex, so it doesn’t matter one iota.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:31 AM
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I think my friends are mostly just really busy. One of the other challenges of getting older. The other key component is having lots of friends, as you said, not just some friends. Maybe I’m pessimistic, but I don’t know if it’s really possible for socially anxious people to get to the point where they have a huge social circle. It’s definitely possible to improve and change in small ways for the better, but even therapists have told me that it’s unrealistic to expect that I’ll become the life o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:40 PM
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It’s probably not a comfort because you’re not aware of the problem that can arise if you don’t ever experience this. While it is a little frustrating that virtually no woman ever empathizes with this, in a way I’m glad that you all don’t have to worry about feeling this way. It really sucks, and the fewer people who can relate to the feeling, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:32 PM
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While I do think it’s pretty different for finding a relationship as a woman, I do still appreciate you sharing your experience. I feel similarly that I can do things easily that others struggle with, while dating is the opposite for me. Still, I sometimes think I’d trade places with just about anyone else who can find love. I guess we always think the grass is greener, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:16 PM
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Some examples would definitely be appreciated. I’m not entirely sure I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:57 PM
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I’m just teasing you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:04 AM
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Hmm, that’s a bleak answer. I’m pretty happy with pretty much everything else in my life, but I’m still miserable because I’ve never been wanted. I don’t think that’s really something I can just ignore; I think everyone wants to feel wanted at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:18 AM
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Not feeling inadequate. It’s not that you get anything positive out of the experience, I’m arguing that you have one less struggle to deal with as a woman. I do feel inadequate because of my lack of sexual validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:56 AM
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Hmm, maybe this is why there’s such a disconnect; we’re using different definitions. I know I’m not sexy, beautiful, or hot, so it would be crazy for me to hope for those things. To me, sexual validation is just knowing that someone wants to be intimate with me, even if I’m not the most attractive person in the world. Maybe it would be helpful for lonely women to adopt this mindset too, but I won’t claim to know. If men want to fuck everything, and you’re one of them, then you’re adequate. Grant…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:45 AM
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I feel like this is some kind of fundamental disconnect. Being sexually desired is not sexual validation? I understand if you claim it doesn’t feel that amazing or whatever (which I’d argue is just because of overabundance, but that’s a separate argument). But to say it’s not sexual validation just seems definitionally incorrect. Like, it’s someone demonstrating that they want to have sex with you; what else could it mean? “That they just want to use your body.” Use it for what? For sex. Again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:27 AM
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Hmm, maybe it’s only intertwined for men then, in which case the experience is still different. I know that a complete lack of sexual validation makes me feel extremely lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:53 AM
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I’ve never met anyone in person who got to the age of 26 and never even kissed a girl though. And the statistics are pretty distressing too. I think only about 5% of men this age are virgins, and that figure is almost constant from 25 onward, implying that most men who go this far as a virgin are likely to stay that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:35 AM
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Never having a single person attracted to you is a particularly painful experience that women, even ugly women, simply don’t ever experience. Usually the types of men interested in these lonely women aren’t dating material, but at least someone finds something appealing about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:31 AM
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Definitely more of a question for a therapist, but: I get that hopelessness can lead to self-fulfilling prophecies, but how the hell are you supposed to not feel hopeless about dating when you can’t ever even get past the first date? It feels completely delusional to think “oh yeah, I’m sure tonight will randomly be the night! The first 26 years were just a warm-up obviously.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:29 AM
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Women can be lonely too, but it’s a very different experience overall. I get a lot of flack for saying this, but this is the one incel-ish belief I will not back down on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:12 AM
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I think I worded this poorly, which may have caused the confusion. I meant loads of parties as well. My friend group still has parties obviously, but it’s not like it’s something that happens every month.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:08 AM
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Couldn’t help but read that in Ron Howard’s voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:02 AM
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It’s too painful to watch romance media since I know it’ll never happen to me. So I don’t watch or read any of it, if I can avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:56 AM
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That’s like the worst case scenario though. You’re comparing that to the daily, guaranteed pain of loneliness. I’ll admit it’s apples and oranges because assault is a concentrated awful experience that’s probably far worse than anyone’s loneliest days. But the pain of loneliness is something that is continual and ongoing, rotting away your happiness little by little until you’re left feeling hopeless and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:51 AM
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Fully agree that anyone who complains about attractive people getting sex and attraction easier is immature and possibly stupid. This is like the second time I think I’ve seen you post using picture examples of ultra hot Instathots. I like looking at them too, but let’s not be horny on main.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:44 AM
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This sadly checks out. Every drug addict I’ve known does exceptionally well with women. Kind of alarming, but it’s not really my concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:40 AM
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I feel like people bring this up a lot, and I believed it back when I had virtually no friends. But now that I do have a growing social circle, I just don’t buy it. You’d have to have a social circle full of extroverts with loads of friends and/or parties for this to happen. I don’t really meet people through my friends generally, and I’m not about to hit on a friend (most are taken anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:30 AM
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Tinder and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:35 AM
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As someone who is blackpilled, I also hate people who use the ideology as an excuse to not even try. The blackpill shouldn’t be used as an excuse, but merely as an explanation. Like, I’ve tried most of the cliched advice that both the bluepill and the redpill give, so why isn’t it working? That’s where the blackpill comes in: I was merely born with a massive disadvantage compared to most men. I keep trying anyway, hoping that somehow even a short, socially stunted guy like me can find someone to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:25 AM
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I’ve felt this way from my teenage years to now at age 26, during times when I did and didn’t work out. And I’m a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:32 PM
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Imagine a woman literally ever doing or saying these things for you lmao. It never began.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:39 AM
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This video gave me nostalgia, which is kind of sad. I remember seeing the original video however many years ago it came out (God, it must be at least 5 years old by now).
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:37 AM
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If you don’t mind my asking, how did you get blackpilled? I’ve seen your comments before, and I’m always blown away by how based they are. I’m just shocked and almost confused because I’ve literally never seen a woman who was blackpilled before.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:26 AM
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Fair enough. I do vaguely remember reading that this has been observed in the literature, so I’ll concede this one. I guess I’m just surprised by it, is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:12 AM
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Dude, I’m a serious porn addict who can’t go more than two days without it. But I still find like 80% of the women I meet attractive. I don’t buy into this message that it makes men’s standards go through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:50 PM
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I just wanted to say that you are like legitimately one of the nicest people on this godforsaken subreddit. People are extremely hostile here, especially to men struggling with loneliness, so I really appreciate your comments being a breath of fresh air.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:18 AM
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Lol I wouldn’t hold my breath. If anything, I think self-awareness can contribute to anxiety in social situations, which is a huge detriment to dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:34 AM
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Not the desperate men. Desperate men will go for anyone who gives them the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:51 AM
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Nah, the game is too rigged in their favor for that to ring true. They’ll fuck around and still end up with a fine guy. Or they’ll be happy being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:32 AM
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Well okay, I should add the caveat that I will date anyone if it’s ethical. Taking advantage of a meth head seems like a pretty awful thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:00 AM
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I think I need to take an extended break from this sub. I think all of the posts railing on men are starting to get to me. That one from today talking about how men don’t offer any value was the straw that broke this camel’s back. But I’ll probably be back tomorrow since I’m lonely as fuck, and I can’t stop obsessing over things related to my loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:39 AM
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Thank you for bringing an actual balanced, reasonable take into this thread. This thread got me pretty depressed for a hot second, but it’s reassuring to know not everyone is this degrading towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:54 AM
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I already said I had zero standards, so yes. I’m at the bottom of the totem pole, so I can’t afford to be choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:41 AM
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You people are straight up delusional lol. Whatever reality is, you invert it just for the sake of debate. Plenty of men, like me, have zero standards. The reason we’re single is because women would rather be alone than date someone like us, as OP stated. If women had lower standards, then all men would be dating. Disclaimer: I am not advocating that women lower their standards to date men they find unattractive. I am simply stating that women’s standards are, whether you like it or not, the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:02 AM
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Bro this is the funniest fucking self-insert fanfic I’ve ever read. Did you type it with one hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:35 PM
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Sorry, can’t respond because I’m an incel who’s too busy cooooooooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:00 PM
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Okay, pack it up everyone. Lilith figured out dating. The reason men are alone and can’t find a girlfriend is because we’re… immature coomers. Yep, literally all of us. Not just Lilith’s shitty firsthand experience, every single man struggling just can’t stop jacking off in his mom’s basement. That’s the only standard women have apparently. Anyway, that’s the end of my daily 5 minute break from cooming. Gotta get back to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:12 PM
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I wouldn’t say that I’m not delusional or hateful; it’s just different. A bitter truth that most people don’t want to acknowledge is that if someone is this lonely, they almost always become hateful in some way. Sometimes it’s directed outwards at women, and other times it’s directed inwards at oneself. I usually direct my hate at myself. Now, this isn’t to say it’s impossible to not have any hate. I do even have some periods of time where I reach this ideal state. But it is exceptionally hard. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:46 AM
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You make me feel so special.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:42 AM
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First of all, thank you for taking the time to write out such a detailed response. I wasn’t really looking for advice, as I was mainly looking to dispel the reasons OP outlined for why some men are alone. However, it’s still pretty handy to have such a thorough list of potential roadblocks. I’ll reply to some of them, but the TLDR is that I try my best, but I’m not perfect by any means. I think we lonely men get held to a higher standard because the second there’s any flaw, someone points out “a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:39 AM
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I have no standards. Only one that’s a little true, but I’m more resentful towards women in the abstract. I never hold any ill will toward a particular woman. Again, I have no standards. Would I be happy with a trad wife? Sure. Would I be happy with a progressive woman? Also fine. I have been trying to get dates for about a decade. Fuck off. I do not wish unhappiness or especially loneliness on anyone. It’s a miserable experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:02 AM
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Hmm, maybe that’s what I have, the learned helplessness. Thank you for giving me something new to consider.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 09:54 PM
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Thank you for the kind words. I do need to get back on antidepressants. Are there any in particular you feel help with hopelessness? I think I’ve only tried Zoloft so far, but it didn’t help a whole lot. I don’t know what’s left to even try. That’s why I feel so hopeless; it feels like I’ve tried and failed at everything. Friends can’t set me up with anyone, going to the gym hasn’t helped, going to church hasn’t helped, going to bars hasn’t helped, my efforts to get better at socializing haven’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:52 PM
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I think lonely men should try anything and everything to feel better, so I agree. The downside is that once you have tried everything, life feels even more hopeless.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 09:40 PM
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I’ve been in and out of therapy for a while now. It’s easy to forget that you can be a good person and single since everyone always blames lonely men for their problems, acting like we’re all hateful pieces of shit who don’t know how to shower or whatever. I guess I was starting to believe them. I like to think that I’m a good listener, loving, empathetic, and patient. I don’t think it matters though. That only matters once you get your foot in the door, so to speak. I’m too short, too weird, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 09:34 PM
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That’s fair. I wouldn’t either, which is why I’m frustrated that I can’t find it. But like I said, I’ll let you know if I do. Just been busy lately (and depressed).
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 09:29 PM
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I’ve been too kind to myself. I used to act like I’d have something to offer as a boyfriend, but if that were true, someone would have recognized that by now. No, the proof is right in front of me: I’m worthless, and I need to stop pretending I’m not. I can’t hide from the truth forever. I’m gonna die alone, and it’s what I deserve for being such a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 07:31 PM
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That seems like a rather loaded question, but I study math. It may not seem helpful in the short term, but much of scientific advancement, particularly in physics, wouldn’t be possible without the mathematical groundwork. In the short term though, I’m hoping to find the time for some volunteer work though. I’ve been having transportation issues though, but they should be resolved soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:57 PM
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Suifuel for incels tbh. It’s funny how many copers will tell us that women aren’t sexual. No, they just aren’t sexual for losers like us. I love and respect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:22 PM
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I like video games about it too, but I’ve never done MTG, DnD, or LARP. My only other interests really are video games as a whole and math. They’re all really niche except for video games, and even then, I don’t really play many multiplayer games. It’s why I’ve spent most of my life with little to no friends. Well, it sounds like you’ve found a partner who is a good match for you, and that’s all that matters. Plus, I suspect you’ve had partners in the past too, which shows that you’re at least l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:58 PM
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I appreciate the advice, but I think you’re barking up the wrong tree on this one. I enjoy everything about my life apart from the loneliness. I’m working a fulfilling job, and I have hobbies that I love. It doesn’t ease the pain of being unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:35 PM
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Ah see, when you’re not intentionally trying to make yourself sound awful, you come across quite nice. I’m happy you have a nice partner. I think it’s pretty difficult to rate effectively how desirable of a person we are, so I rely on lived experience to determine that. No woman has ever wanted me, which means I am the very bottom of the barrel. It hurts a lot to realize this, but it’s reality unfortunately. I think most people find me boring. I’m mainly into learning about medieval history, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:55 AM
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I’m sorry to hear you’re struggling. It sounds like you’re really hard on yourself about it. I think it’s good to recognize your faults, but it’s also really important to have compassion. Like you said, you’re trying you’re best. I believe it’ll get better for you. No way I could do better. If anything, you’re probably out of my league. I’m 26 and still just sharing an apartment with others, I’m short and unmanly, boring and awkward. There’s a reason no woman has ever wanted to be with me. I’m a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:42 AM
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We’d probably be a bad combo since I’m also a bit messy, but yes I would 100% date this completely hypothetical woman. Honestly the fact that she works a job she cares about seems really sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:22 AM
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I’m just tired. I’ve tried to do everything I can to be good enough, but nothing changes. It’s time to face the music and admit that I’m meant to die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:06 AM
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I’d even be happy with an obese woman. But no one wants genetic garbage like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:32 AM
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And look really young for my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:20 AM
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I’m 5’5.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:19 AM
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I dunno, it would be nice to know I’m not a worthless piece of garbage. I think I’d be happy if someone were even just attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:18 AM
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Did you ever look at the chat I sent like a week ago? I forget what the context was, but I was looking for some confirmation if I’m ugly and I said I’d private message you. I assumed it was because I was so unattractive that you felt bad, but maybe you just didn’t see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:16 AM
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The only benefit I’ve gotten from the gym is seeing gym bros’ minds implode when I say I haven’t found it to be that helpful. Anyway, yeah I agree I shouldn’t inflict myself upon a woman. I have tried and failed and tried and failed to no avail. But I’ll stop trying to put myself out there now. I’ll just wait for death like I’m supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:10 AM
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I haven’t felt any of the results people say I should feel from gym. I’m no less depressed, no more confident, no more attractive. When is that supposed to happen? 6 months? 1 year? 3 years? It doesn’t change anything. Nothing matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:02 AM
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Nothing. That’s the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:52 AM
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I think it’s not really the same thing as never even being able to get into a relationship in the first place though. Still, I’m happy you found a nice wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:49 AM
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I’ve tried to write poetry before actually. I managed to write one, but it wasn’t very good. The issue is that depression saps the little motivation I have to do things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:47 AM
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I dunno, I disagree. I don’t think I even want to be with someone anymore. I just want to feel wanted for once in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:46 AM
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Thank you for the kindness. I’m sorry if I’ve said any unhinged shit here before. I just try in vain to understand why I’m such a fuck-up, which leads me to these worldviews. I give up trying to understand it. Whatever is wrong with me, it’s clearly fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:45 AM
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I don’t want to be a goth. I want to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:31 AM
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I’ve been going for a couple months now. It’s not a miracle cure for loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:30 AM
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Happy cake day, friend. I’m sorry life is so unkind to us. I hope you somehow make it out by 26, no matter how hopeless it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:28 AM
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Not even 1% of ugly women would date me. Lonely women reject me. Fat women ghost me. I am a -10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:26 AM
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That’s a little insensitive, but I guess that’s my fault for coming to Reddit when I’m having a mental breakdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:22 AM
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I’m not even worth settling for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:21 AM
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Huh? Are you suggesting you know what my relationship with my parents was like as an infant? I can’t really parse what you’re trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:20 AM
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You can have depression for several reasons. One of them is being completely undesirable as a man. If someone’s depression is rooted in other causes, then sure women won’t help. But some of us really are just depressed because we can’t find anyone. I know a couple incels who finally found a partner who confirmed that it did help tremendously with their mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:18 AM
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Nearly there. I think that’ll be the point of no return. Even if I find a woman after 30, it won’t matter because I’ll be too bitter and jaded for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:01 AM
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I think it just doesn’t track because we’re trying to understand why we’re unwanted. A lot of the advice we hear from women is stuff we already do, so it doesn’t make sense why we’re alone. The blackpill and redpill will tell men they’re alone for reasons that do seem more plausible at least since most of us aren’t tall, rich, hot, or assertive or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:00 AM
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My self esteem deteriorates by the day. How much of a pathetic piece of garbage do you have to be to be unwanted by every single woman you meet by age 26? If I had any positive qualities, someone would have given me a chance by now. 26 years and never more than a first date. The world’s been trying to tell me to kill myself for years, and I’m too stupid and cowardly to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:54 AM
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Tbh I’m struggling to find it for some reason. I was made aware of it because of a streamer who has experience in the mental health industry, so I trust her on its existence. I assume Costello is likely an author, since he is one of the first people I think of who is doing insightful research into incels at the moment. I’ll let you know if I do manage to find it. I’m pretty sure it is about incels specifically.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 02:37 AM
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I legitimately find like 80% of the women I see on a daily basis to be attractive. And even if I don’t find them attractive, I’d have to hope that maybe with familiarity I can come to be aroused by them. There will always be desperate men out there for any woman who believes she’s undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:26 AM
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Yes, I would be happy to try to make things work with any woman, whether she’s obese, autistic, or whatever trait you can think of. I am unwanted, so it would be delusional to turn down any chance at forming a relationship I can get. Beggars can’t be choosers. I think it demonstrates what I said about women being incapable of reaching the same level of desperation as men because so many women genuinely can’t even fathom this kind of loneliness. They always have options. I’m surprised that this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:24 AM
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I’ll be honest, I think most lonely guys really are hoping there’s some miracle cure they haven’t heard yet. But deep down, we know there’s nothing new we haven’t heard before. That’s actually the real blackpill in my eyes. A lot of us have tried all the advice we hear, and for some of us, it just doesn’t work. We’re either too ugly, too socially handicapped, or have some other fundamental flaw that we can’t surmount. It’s not women’s jobs to magically heal these flaws, but it does feel frustrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:11 AM
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Undesirable women are like cryptids. Loads of crazy people online claim they’re out there, hiding under our noses, yet I’ve never seen a single one. In fact, by definition they can’t exist: if you show me a woman who believes she’s undesirable, I will desire her. Men will always be more desperate than women. If women could be equally desperate, then there wouldn’t be any lonely people; all the desperate men and women would just pair up. So I’ll replace “undesirable” here with “less desirable”. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:57 AM
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It’s really just the disparities in dating and views on sex that lead to us not being able to relate to the opposite sex; we’re pretty similar in most other ways. The gap in empathy is exacerbated by the fact that although both men and women have issues, both feel that the other sex’s issues would be a solution to their own problems. Namely, men receive no attention whatsoever and crave the constant validation that women receive. Women are bombarded with suitors who are only interested in sex or…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:50 AM
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That’s kind of a separate discussion. I wasn’t really talking about they “why” of incels not attracting women. The topic of the post was that you need to be liked to be considered likeable, and I was piggybacking off that to mention how an uncomfortable corollary of this is that incels are by definition unlikable people. I wasn’t really asking for a guide on how to get out of inceldom lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:06 AM
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Sure, but dating is never easy. The point is that they have options to work with and a chance to find happiness if they work hard enough. Men, especially unattractive men, do not have those opportunities at all.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:59 AM
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It’s also a known fact that lonely men (or it might be incels specifically) report far lower feelings of satisfaction with therapy than other groups. So it’s not like all these men aren’t going to therapy out of shame; plenty are probably just aware that it simply does not work for them.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:46 AM
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Pretend for the sake of argument that 90% of men on Tinder want just sex. Then since most women (even ugly women) can easily get 100 matches in no time at all, then that’s an expected 10 men who are legitimate prospects. That’s probably 10 times the number of opportunities this hypothetical woman’s male counterpart could muster.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 01:33 AM
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We incels have been saying this for years, but people just assume everything that comes out of our mouths is nonsense, and it gets discarded out of hand. We are unlovable because no one has (or presumably ever will) love us. But then someone always comes around and says some bs about how we just need to love ourselves first or some crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:02 AM
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Jfl you have to be tall even to betabux these days. Giga over for shortcels.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:48 AM
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I do plenty of things I enjoy. It doesn’t change the fact that it feels hollow and meaningless without a girlfriend.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 02:42 AM
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I disagree. I think we all need to feel desirable. It’s like handing someone from the first world a glass of water. They probably wouldn’t care or even need it, because their needs are already being met. But to someone dying of thirst, that water is greatly needed. But either person needs to have some water, just it’s in abundance for the one and in scarcity for the other. To support this, in the few, rare cases of women who actually don’t receive any positive male attention, they seem to genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:30 PM
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Men want to fuck most women, but that’s because they do actually find most women attractive. This is a big difference between men and women. I’d only say the compliments are not genuine if the guy is saying things like “you’re the hottest woman here.” It’s possible that he means that, but more likely that he’s just trying to get in your pants. But if he’s complimenting a particular feature, even if he compliments lord of women on that, it’s probably just because he does genuinely find that featu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:45 PM
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I struggle to believe any kind of personality is ever more important than looks. Your personality usually doesn’t matter at all unless you’re at least attractive enough to get her attention in the first place, for which you generally need to meet her looks threshold. If you’re ugly and don’t meet most women’s looks threshold, then having a “generous” personality won’t matter at all. You can’t provide for a girl if there’s no one to provide for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:16 PM
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I’ve got a while before unaliving, for better or for worse. I’m gonna stick around til my parents are gone, and my grandparents are still alive. So it’ll probably be a while before I go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:58 PM
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Brutal. Appreciate the honesty though. I don’t think being short is necessarily a death sentence, but you have to have so much to compensate for it. I definitely don’t, so I think it’s pretty safe to say it’s over for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:12 PM
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I appreciate that you’ve shown me such kindness. I’m still not sure if it’s wise to entertain hope when it can just cause more pain in the long run. But I will admit it’s hard to know when to give up hope. For instance, all the stats on later virginity seem so contradictory. I was mainly referring to this study, which claimed only a small handful of men are virgins by this age. Looking at the line graph they posted, it looks to be roughly 5% in fact. But I also found that 1 in 8 figure you cited…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:10 PM
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Been trying to get better at talking to people for about 8 years. Still suck at it. I can assure you that being scrawny is undesirable to a lot of women. It makes me look less masculine. I’ve even encountered a decent amount of women who would prefer a fat guy over a skinny one. I’m 5’5.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:21 PM
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Yeah, I’m worried about getting addicted too. I’ve also got an addictive personality type.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:10 PM
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How is it not true though? I think less than 5% of people are still virgins at this age, and I imagine most of them are virgins by choice like monks. Most people experience as teenagers the things I still only dream about. The older I get, the more women are going to expect that I should have my shit figured out, and I wouldn’t blame them if they didn’t have the patience to put up with a guy who’s experiencing things for the first time they figured out over a decade ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:06 PM
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The bar could be on the floor and I’d still probably fail to get over it. I have nothing to offer women. It hurts, but it’s the truth I’ve come to realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:01 PM
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I appreciate the suggestion, but the root cause of my depression is not being wanted. The lack of kisses and sex are a symptom of that, not the cause. Though I do sometimes wonder if experiencing a simulation of desire (GFE) could at least make me feel better. It’s something worth considering, and I might bite the bullet and give it a try by the time I’m 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:58 PM
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I don’t know tbh. I think at some point it’s wiser to just cut one’s losses and accept the way things are. I’ve been banging my head against the wall metaphorically for the past several years trying to improve the areas where I’m lacking, but I have little to show for it all. It can sound harsh when others say things like that, but I think it’s more of a mercy than to hold on to hope for years only to be disappointed again and again by life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:55 PM
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I’m short, scrawny, and I struggle with talking to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:35 PM
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Appreciate the optimism, but I’m 26 and it hasn’t happened yet. It’s very likely that it’ll never happen. If it makes you feel any better, my parents had me fairly young. I probably will have to stick around until my 60s or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 05:04 PM
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I mean, I feel like I have a pretty good idea of the signs that a woman is not interested. The problem is that we never get any signs of the opposite, that a woman does want you to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 04:10 PM
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Maybe the real downie was me the whole time.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 04:02 PM
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No doubt you’ll have difficulty intuiting the difference Yeah, I stopped reading after that. I thought you were interesting since you were an annoying Buddhist. Turns out you’re just regular annoying, which is a lot less exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:53 PM
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That wasn’t apparent from the video to me. Why is it expected that we’re so terminally online that we know the backstory of every TikToker?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 03:47 PM
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Well, you were appealing to a religion to go against mainstream science which does absolutely stress how detrimental a lack of intimacy can be to one’s emotional well-being. That sounds a bit like imposing a worldview to me, and it’s humorously similar to the behavior of religious fundamentalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:45 PM
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“Volcel if you wouldn’t be with this 8/10 chick” No shit?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 03:32 PM
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Interesting, I’ve never seen a Buddhist imperiously imposing their worldview on others. Normally it’s a Christian or Muslim thing. I guess every faith has its annoying members.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:23 PM
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I hear stories about guys who can slay with their personality all the time on Reddit, but I have literally never seen this happen irl. I feel like I live on a different planet sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:00 PM
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If I haven’t ever been kissed by the time my parents die, I’ll probably kill myself. The only reason I haven’t already is that it would devastate my parents, so once they’re gone, I’ll finally be free. I don’t find life worth living if you’re unwanted and alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:46 PM
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Uh, I do, I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 04:40 AM
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That’s based, dude. I remember so many people thought inkwells were some white supremacist group for a while, which is so funny when you know the reality of how diverse we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:52 AM
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It’s just nice to know we’re living on the same planet as them lol. Sometimes it feels like an incel could say the sky is blue, and then a woman would say “yikes, this is why you’re inkwell. It’s actually not always blue, sweaty.”
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 03:46 AM
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For real. Nothing else before or after comes close.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:44 AM
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It’s okay. It doesn’t scratch quite the same itch though. Maybe because the rules are stricter there (no generalizations allowed). Or maybe it’s just because the incel subs were funnier. But I do agree that the people are more reasonable there. The more reasonable a virgin, the more miserable and joyless. The pinnacle of that is the forever alone sub, where everyone is very fair and understanding toward others, and likewise it’s the most soulless discussions usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:23 AM
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True, it’s about the closest we can have to an incel sub these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:25 AM
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It’s fine. The virgin sub is alright too. But the incels subs had an edge to them that can’t be replicated elsewhere on account of the rules. I think it’s the humor I miss, and these subs are nowhere near as funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:13 AM
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I miss the incel subreddits tbh. The only forums left are the batshit crazy ones like .is or whatever. Believe it or not, not all of us are completely unhinged, and some of the subs (like incels without hate) were pretty calm. They were hilarious too, but now we have no place left to be except infesting subreddits like this that clearly don’t want us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:05 AM
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The latter. Average height and good face will make you decently attractive. Conversely, I know a decent number of incels who are above 6ft but have plenty of other things going wrong for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:54 AM
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I legitimately get so excited whenever I stumble on a woman who agrees with anything the blackpill has to say. It’s seriously so rare, but also so validating when someone finally acknowledges these talking points that so many women routinely reject.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 01:41 AM
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Girl smiles at you at a bar Yeah, this literally never happens for some of us. Ever. What are we supposed to do then? Just sit around and do nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:08 AM
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I went to a lot of parties in undergrad to try to break out of my shell, but it never worked. I’m too socially awkward, and struggle too much to make conversation, even when intoxicated. Definitely never got me close to getting laid. I’m happy it worked well for you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:15 AM
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It’s clear by the fact that they receive next to no upvotes that they don’t reflect many men’s opinions though. Who the fuck cares about the occasional nut jobs that seep through the cracks?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:52 AM
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I guess it depends on how old these men were, for me to decide if that gives me hope or not. If they were 20 year old kids, then yeah I’m not surprised they eventually found someone. But if they were 30 or up, then I will allow myself another small dose of copium.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:53 AM
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Lol I have enjoyed our time together, but that’s coming to an end now too. Hopefully I can just kill off the sexual desire altogether eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:51 AM
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I’m sure it does ruin lots of relationships. I just don’t lose sleep over it because I would need a relationship to lose first, and I just don’t see that happening anytime in the next several years.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:36 AM
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I might be biased since I’m pretty sadge right now. I can dm if you really are curious though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:32 AM
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Normal? Daily, but a lot of men do too much. I don’t know what the healthy amount is though. Maybe four times a week if I had to guess? Not getting any clear answers from googling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:30 AM
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I wouldn’t know. I’m trying to be more religious, so my faith tells me that self control is important for both of those things anyway. But yeah, I don’t make the rules about how much is too much porn; I’m just reporting based off of the usual amount I’ve heard is considered a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:27 AM
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Lmao I’m not going to ever get a partner. And if I did, she’d have to be patient enough to deal with all my other flaws, so she’d probably be patient about the ED as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:26 AM
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Yeah, that’s kind of a lot, chief. Not judging, since I used to do it a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:25 AM
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Short, skinny, no facial hair, unmanly, weak voice, generally just imagine the most unappealing loser you could think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:24 AM
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I don’t really mind the ED. It doesn’t matter at all to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:23 AM
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Most young men are also quite possibly addicted to porn, so I don’t know if that necessarily would contradict what I wrote. But I could totally be wrong; maybe this was healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:22 AM
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Thanks, but I don’t even know if it’s really that bad. Like I mentioned in the comment, it’s kind of nice to not have to feel so horny as much. And the ED literally doesn’t matter, since I’m never gonna get laid anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:21 AM
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I’m only 26, but I’m already losing a bit of that drive and even starting to gain a bit of ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:18 AM
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Yeah, I’d say masturbating to porn once or more per day is a lot. Didn’t realize this was a hot take lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:17 AM
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Alright, but that means you never need to worry about being entirely undesirable. Men have this extra potential demon to face that maybe no one even finds anything of value in them. I’m not saying you should appreciate men only wanting you for your body, but at least you know they want you for something. I have nothing a woman would desire in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:17 AM
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It helps me vent when I’m depressed about my issues with absolutely no one finding me attractive. And I’m pretty much depressed about that every day, so I inhabit this space more than I should.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:13 AM
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So does every other woman who weighs more than a leaf. You’re fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:11 AM
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Don’t know whether to be happy or sad that my libido is finally going down I’ve had a porn addiction for years, to the point where I pretty much couldn’t go a single day without masturbating once or even twice. But recently there have actually been a bunch of days where I haven’t felt the urge at all. It might not sound like much to just go a day without it (and I guess it really isn’t much), but compared to the way I used to feel, it’s a lot. On the one hand, I know it’s an unhealthy addiction,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:10 AM
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Bitch, those pics on your profile better be someone else then. You’re far from ugly lmao. Unless the drugs have started fucking up your appearance since then. That could do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:09 AM
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One time this cute chick approached me. She asked if I’d be willing to buy candy, since she needed more money for rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:06 AM
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I would do a backflip in excitement if a cat anus approached me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:06 AM
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Just use dating apps and select your favorites from the 30 trillion likes. That’s all you need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:03 AM
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Lmao “saucy wenches” But realistically if I went to a Renaissance fair, my experience would be the same as 90% of the times I try to put myself out there. I would show up, not talk to anyone, leave, and want to kms. Obviously I can’t make friends if I don’t talk to people, but I just can’t get the hang of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:22 AM
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I’m passionate about my work (math research), which is male-dominated; medieval history, also male-dominated; and video games, which don’t take me out of the house. Edit: forgot the context of this message, which wasn’t about dating but friendships in general. The bigger issue there is that I’m just too socially stunted. Doing things I enjoy doesn’t change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:57 AM
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That sounds like a step in the right direction. I hope you’ll be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:48 AM
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But you recognize it’s a detriment to your life. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have brought it up when comparing the state of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:39 AM
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There was a post here today about social circles. The thing is, I already know that this is the strongest way to get into a relationship, and the only one likely to work for an unattractive guy like me. But the thing is, that’s exactly why I know it’s hopeless for me. I’ve been trying for years to get better at socializing, and my progress is so minimal. I always struggle to just make conversation with people. Plus, I don’t have any hobbies that would take me out of the house, so I have to force…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:36 AM
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For real? I can’t tell if you’re trolling. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:29 AM
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Everyone has their struggles, and I didn’t mean to imply that your life was ideal. For instance, I’ve had major depressive disorder and used to struggle with self harm and suicidal ideation. But having a significant other can help someone endure those things and give you a reason to keep fighting. I hope you can overcome your substance abuse issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:23 AM
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Aww, the redemption arc! I remember a while ago you commented saying you hated incels. I don’t hate you either. Your life just makes me depressed because I’ll never have what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:16 AM
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I think the difference is that he already has the validation that my ex lacked Reading this made me feel pretty invalid as an unattractive guy. It’s a vicious cycle, and we all contribute to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 03:08 AM
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I work out five days a week, I eat healthy, I’m in a PhD program about which I’m passionate, and due to the previous point I don’t have much time for hobbies in general, but I try to socialize with my peers as much as possible. You can improve forever; it’s no guarantee that you’ll ever find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:00 PM
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I work out five days a week, I eat healthy, I’m in a PhD program about which I’m passionate, and due to the previous point I don’t have much time for hobbies in general, but I try to socialize with my peers as much as possible. You can improve forever; it’s no guarantee that you’ll ever find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 03:00 PM
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Same. I would’ve killed myself five years ago if I didn’t feel guilty about how it would make my parents feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:58 AM
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Yeah, I can’t really come to peace with the unfairness either. I’ve been poisoning my mind lately by observing too much how easy it is for attractive guys. I have been trying bit by bit to go out of my comfort zone, but I haven’t had any success yet, as the post suggests. I hope theatre can provide you some happiness at least. No one deserves to feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:47 AM
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This forum has made me more convinced— I’ll stop you right there, chief. I wouldn’t base much of any of your opinions on life from this forum. This forum is inhabited by insanely broken losers like me who haven’t touched grass in 20 years, not well-adjusted normal people. We are not a good representation of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:44 AM
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Ah, that was my issue. I was only eating 5. Thank you for the advice; my depression should be cleared up in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:39 AM
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How many eggs do I have to eat before I stop crying?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:37 AM
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I hate being a man. I just want someone to want me. Every day is painful. Nothing I do seems to make me any less invisible. I’m just so tired of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:32 AM
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A million dollars isn’t rich. Lol first of all: gold digger moment. That’s like 95th percentile of wealth even in America. Something something women’s extreme standards… Secondly, are you saying that if he were like a billionaire or something, it would be more excusable? And unrelated to that comment, I don’t really care what value judgments you’re passing on the women answering this way. The fact is that they exist. Without any proof, we can’t assume anything about their mental health or behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:47 PM
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Tfw you’re 5’5 🙃 Lol but seriously, my comment wasn’t just in regards to when it’s “over” so to speak. I think hot 5’7/5’8 guys will do fine, but still probably not as well as most tall men do without much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:37 PM
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I think it’s hard to say whether it’s harder or not. But I think that’s distracting from the more important point that lesbian incels do indeed exist and that we actually share our struggles. I can’t stand most “femcels” because they’re straight women who act like they have the same struggles as incels, when the reality couldn’t be further from the truth. But lesbian femcels? Oh yeah, I totally empathize with that struggle. Women are extremely picky and hypergamous, and you’re one of the few wom…
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:47 AM
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Always could be worse. Could be posting 5 times a day on IncelTears.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:33 AM
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For real. I don’t want money, I want a wife whom I love.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:29 AM
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Also lists “boys that lie and overshoot their height.” Like gee, I wonder why they might do that lmao
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:20 AM
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I would have done it back when I was 21, but sadly it would hurt my family too much, and I care about them a lot. So I’m sticking around, trying to ignore the pain as best I can until it’s all over. If you can, I recommend trying to make others’ lives less miserable. It’s one of the few things I’ve found to truly help me feel less miserable.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:18 AM
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Two things: It can be equally difficult for some people to make friends. Some people are autistic, painfully socially anxious, shut-ins, have extremely niche interests, and so on. It’s insensitive to act like it’s as simple as “just go find some friends then!” Even if you do have friends, they’re not a cure for romantic loneliness. Sure, it can and usually does help somewhat, but some of us have a hole in our heart that friends simply can’t fill. We need this to be happy.
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 05:16 AM
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This is why men don’t approach. Plenty of us pretty much never get these signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:57 AM
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I was kind of with you until you said 5’11 lol. That’s way too extreme. I’d say it’s more like 5’8 or so. If you’re below that height, then yeah you could be hot as hell and still less attractive than a lanky tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:53 AM
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Holy shit, I needed that laugh. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:45 AM
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Also, please stop with the ‘women will share a man’ nonsense. Women aren’t a monolith. Scroll through all the replies here. There are a couple who are saying the millionaire and even more who are saying they would go for the millionaire if it were an open relationship. I guess that’s not exactly ‘sharing,’ but it still shows that these women value a high-income man over a monogamous, low-income man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:32 AM
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I’m trying to improve, but I think you can now understand a bit better why men are usually more distressed about being single. It’s a really depressing situation to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:35 PM
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I guess I just don’t count as a real man then. I rarely find anyone desperate enough to give me a chance. Some of the uglier ones seem to try for a message to two, before they inevitably realize they can’t lower their standards enough for me, so they ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:58 PM
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Not in my experience. I go onto Tinder, for instance, and even women who meet those criteria swipe left on me. From talking to others in my shoes, I know I’m not the only one who experiences this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:42 PM
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https://reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/l7fBBpiuSP Take a gander at this thread then. Most standards are pretty minimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:21 PM
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I dont see anyone telling men to lower their standards Then you’re not looking very hard lol. Here’s a post I just saw an hour ago: https://reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/s/mqkdHa1Lhj I will add this caveat however: typically it seems to be redpilled men who tell men to level up, while women tell men to lower their standards. This discussion of standards still doesn’t touch much on the main point. To reiterate, I’m not expecting or advocating that women lower their standards further. What I am say…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:17 PM
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That’s a pretty hefty oversimplification. Self improvement is never a guarantee for finding a partner; it just increases the odds. Not every failure is for a lack of trying. You can do everything “right” and still end up single for most of your life. I know plenty of people who are in shape, earn good money, etc. who still struggle to find anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:02 PM
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Well, everyone is always telling men to lower their standards. If men can, I’m sure you can find a way too. But that’s besides the point. I’m not saying you should necessarily try to lower your standards. It’s an option, but I understand why you wouldn’t choose it. Notice the operative word though? Once again, still a choice. “Would you rather eat this stale bag of chips or not?” That is still a choice, but with an obvious answer imo. Men are not even offered the stale bag of chips though. They’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:54 PM
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I appreciate the benefit of the doubt, but I never had any luck before the pandemic either. I just suck at social interactions, and it’s a lot harder when you’re conventionally unattractive. I might be projecting, but I think the pandemic actually didn’t change much. Men who struggle with socializing have almost always had the cards stacked against them with dating. You have to initiate all the time as a guy, so if you’re introverted or, God forbid, socially anxious, then you’re probably going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:47 PM
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Would you also like a post I made if I said that actually the Sun orbits the Earth? It’s totally wrong, but I usually hear the opposite, so it’s kind of quirky and original.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:40 PM
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You’re not entitled to an attractive man. If you want a relationship, then you should lower your standards. If you don’t want to lower your standards, then that’s fine, but that is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:34 PM
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That’s a much more watered down claim than the one on the post you linked though. Framing it the way that user did is a mischaracterization, while your statement is accurate, albeit doesn’t say too much. Yeah, some minorities of people are unreasonable. We can safely ignore them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:32 PM
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I’d think you would have a point if I were just projecting my experience as an incel, since we’re a niche subset of men. But I’m saying that if incel men are generally looking for their looksmatch, I find it hard to believe that this isn’t the case for most men in general. It’s just harder to prove for average men since you don’t have the crystal clear proof like with incels. Obviously, there are going to be some guys with unreasonable standards. But I think they’re a small minority, and women l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:24 PM
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I didn’t say incels are all ugly either. The reasons for why incels are alone isn’t too relevant here. What matters more than the cause is the effect: guys like us receiving no positive attention from any women. Again, not just from women who are way above our looksmatch, no attention from any women. It’s impossible for me to believe that men are chasing after women above their league when this is the case. We are not, but some women simply can’t believe this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:12 PM
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The only thing I find interesting about that post is how persistent that myth is among women. Hell, the very existence of incels should dispel that notion. How many times do we incels have to tell people that literally no one is interested in us before women believe us? And if incel men are looking at they’re level, I find it hard to believe that the same isn’t the case for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:06 PM
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You unintentionally hit the nail on the head by saying “choosing to be single.” I think that’s what it really comes down to—women are happier being single because for them it’s usually a choice. For most men, it’s not a choice, and overall we have very little agency to even do anything about our situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:27 PM
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