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Can I vent to you about my ex? You sound like you'd get it
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/26 05:12 PM
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I'm going through the exact same thing, do you want to comiserate about it? I finally reached the point where I don't hate her anymore. I never stopped loving her mind you but you can love and hate the same person at the same time. Mine was a really broken person to start with and being able to have pity for her makes it a lot easier for me to forgive her. That is important to forgive her because holding on to the hate and resentment it just radiates from me and scares people away who had nothin…
/r/Divorce_Men09/04/26 05:05 PM
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Did you stop those men from raping that woman? Why did they think they could do it in front of you? Why are you at so many rapings? You're not a scientist conducting pier reviews studies with control groups. The difference between my lived experience and yours, is that rape occured in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:00 PM
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Think about how hostile that wording is. I am happy to have a civil conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:50 PM
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That is not what it means to make an assumption. That is called interpretation. It is your responsibility to communicate in a way that isn't open to interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:48 PM
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So you would be happy with a woman who doesn't do anything but lay their like a dead fish, and you think most men would be just as happy with that? You not going to ask her to dress a particular way, or do or say something based on your fetishes? You're not going to tell her to go faster or slower, or take a shower if she has BO? Do you see the point now? It's not a power trip to want some effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:46 PM
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In those situations you were just an observer. It didn't happen to you. It was a social setting. Not you being attacked one on one or by the group. If you were not attacked, and attacked often, you didn't experience anything pertinent to the conversation. I have had to deal with more ugly guys being rapy than hot guys. Why don't you reason it out and consider that you're asking me to weigh your pet theory against reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:41 PM
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Do you get that those women rather the less attractive guys just try harder, than stroke our egos by rejecting them? If I am with a guy, I want to have sex with him. If he fucks that up, I don't get to have sex either. Saying we rather go without is a cop out to avoid doing what we need to get in the mood for sex. Is it really so hard to imagine not wanting to have sex with someone because they refuse to do the things that turn you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:34 PM
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Well they aren't mad at you for rejecting them. My lived experience is from being on the receiving end, not sitting around talking with guys who are not trying to incriminate themselves. The conventionally attractive guys felt no urgency because as you yourself pointed out, there is none for them. They can just do it with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:29 PM
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If it is something men do too, then what are you complaining about? Men and women have sex with people who are less than idea, and like it better than nothing all of the time. It's not rocket science. You take what you can get, or go without.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:25 PM
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I'm not making assumptions, you need to communicate better if you are having such a hard time getting your point across without playing the Jordan Peterson game of pretending you didn't imply what you obviously implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:23 PM
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You are basing this on the assumption that we don't like sex. Would you volunteer to be celibate until it is your turn with one of the most beautiful women in the world decided to get around to you, just to spite the vast majority of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:15 PM
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I'm referring to men as a group, not you as an individual. It is your reading comprehension that is lacking. I was very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:08 PM
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No, it's common knowledge. Talk to someone outside your bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:09 PM
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You sound really miserable, like you think just being a man is intrinsically terrible. In the trans community, they call that egg talk. A chick that hasn't hatched yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:05 PM
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What you're describing is gender dysphoria.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:38 PM
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Wow, it must be hard for you being so detached from reality. If you really think being a man has always been worse in every situation than being a woman, maybe you just don't like living as a man. You don't have to anymore. No one is making you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:51 PM
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They're called boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:44 PM
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Not with that attitude for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:38 PM
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Like you would know what vagina smells like
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:38 PM
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Constant rejection breeds resentment. I have plenty of knowledge of this leading to violence from living as a woman. My own account is enough for me to know what men attack. Ultimately, the only experience with men you have is your own experience with yourself. I have a lot. Any guy can be dangerous. Just like any large primate full of testosterone and frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:37 PM
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Lol, are you saying that they're false flags? Was Elliott Rodgers a crisis actor?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:32 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:30 PM
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That's not at all what I said. Misogyny existed long before feminism, you just want an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:30 PM
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So you didn't identify as an incel, you just have their outlook on yourself and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:27 PM
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Yeah I know, you want to be abusive and get away with it without taking responsibility for your deliberately malicious actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:26 PM
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I literally just had sex. I get to all the time. Like you never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:24 PM
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That's because we have bigger problems. If you want sympathy, be sympathetic. Stop trying to prove your problems are worse ours, and we can talk about just how bad they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:22 PM
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It would be better to post a link. If I just look it up, my own bias and the algorithm will make it likely that I will find a study that contradicts it. If I may speculate, you may have found one that confirms what you're more emotionally prepared to do already. I know that I can be needlessly hostile to the point of sabotaging my relationships. It's important to catch yourself doing it. It's more important to be happy than proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:22 AM
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But that means you get none. That is objectively irrational. It is a self sabotaging emotional response.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:15 AM
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Based on what? I haven't said anything to indicate that I don't respect the men I don't have sex with. I have a lot of gay friends. I respect them. Look, what your mad about isn't that I have sex with my guy friends. You're mad that you wasted your life chasing off the woman you wanted to have sex with. Accusing me of fucking every guy I respect is admitting that woman would have sex with you if you weren't so unlikable. I have had sex with guys twice my age or weight. It's really not that diffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:29 AM
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No, it's the fetishes of neckbeards going after middle schoolers that dictates it. Most men are perfectly happy to have sex with a grown woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:20 AM
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You get raped during divorce? God, you lawyer sucks. This fucking country. Court ordered rape. At least it will make up for all the sex you didn't have during marriage. If you don't want to be a decent human being a take care of kids who need a guardian, no one will make you. Just like no one had to be with you. It's ridiculous that you think you can high horse women for not wanting to have sex with someone who clearly should never be around children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:17 AM
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Or it describes two different classes where rich people have weird rituals based on political marriage, and people who actually work for a living need as many kids as possible to do that work. The wall is a very pedophilic idea. You seriously think a woman is only sexually viable as a teenager and starts to be too old for sex within ten years of adulthood. Thirty is not old.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:12 AM
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Lol. Alright. That's adorable that you think you're the slave. But if you agree that it's slavery, you understand that you don't get to have a virgin bride and need to let go of that creepy hang up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:08 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-51264574
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:02 AM
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https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/things-girls-have-been-traded-for/ Still happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:01 AM
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https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-01-22/how-many-cows-woman-worth-now-you-can-find-out They have an app for trading women for livestock
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:00 AM
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The point of monogamy and marriage is domestic servitude. The ownership of another human being. Nothing's more selfish than slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:59 AM
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africa-rights-childmarriage-idUSKBN1JN214 What I said still happens
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:58 AM
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What's with your personal attacks? You made a literal value judgment against my character. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:54 AM
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Are you going to squirt our little farm hands all by yourself? No. You need a farm animal to give birth to your workers. A wife. That's not a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:53 AM
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No. You buy her from her father. As property.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:51 AM
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I don't deny it. When it comes to attracting a partner, yes, we have it easier. Anyone who says otherwise is trolling you. I'm saying that you are hopeless if you think you can get away with being an asshole just because other guys can.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:45 AM
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In the old days you had to trade livestock to the bride's father before you could marry her, so what do you think the point of marriage and monogamy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:43 AM
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You know, I have actually enjoyed this conversation because it was fairly civil. I'm not trying to be hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:41 AM
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It take two to make a kid. The partners can also choose more carefully. What would be selfish is expecting every woman to only be with one man their whole life because you can't stand not being the only man a woman has been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:37 AM
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Women say that to you in particular because you are obnoxious. If you didn't only bring up abuse against men to dismiss abuse against women, people would think you wanted to have a real conversation instead of wanting to put all of you jack asses on an island to figure out on your own how to act civilized, or eat each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:27 AM
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Every woman in a group about debating incel topics say you upset them. Yeah, that totally makes them the abuser. Congratulations for finding your golden ticket for getting away with emotional abuse by saying anyone accusing you of such is the real abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:23 AM
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They both looked the way they do before becoming assholes. I get it. It's not fair that the beautiful people don't have to try as hard. I'm sorry. But that's true for everyone. I understand that rejection, after rejection, after rejection can make you bitter, making you more likely to be rejected. I am saying you have to do a lot of work to makeup for the handicap. I am not saying it's fair. I'm saying it's the way it is and it works for most people who put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:00 AM
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Then why'd you bring it up? I'm a big girl, if you have something to say, say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:56 AM
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All the same, in this case, you're off. Sure, we do tend to see sex as the only situation where we have more power, but it doesn't mean we would rather most men not be attractive. That just doesn't make sense. We would have to go without. It would be best for us if as many of you as possible weren't bitter misanthropes who don't take care of your appearance or develop basic social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:55 AM
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Oh yeah, what's wrong with my profile picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:49 AM
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I have fucked lots of guys who are not conventionally attractive because I like them and want to see them be happy. Incels shoot up places every year. That's not rare. Men have sex with attractive women regardless of if she is a bitch or not all of the time. And then they marry someone they can tolerate and imagine someone else during sex. You won't though. You'll always be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:48 AM
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You're the one who think it's disgusting to raise some else's kids. But nah, your right. It's selfish of me not to drown my kids if I leave their father and find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:43 AM
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Imagine hating women with children and wondering why your still single. Not even trying to look like a good father and husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:09 AM
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I don't need to sweet talk people into having sex with me, and I don't want to marry you. If you want to marry someone who stayed a virgin or only had sex with one or two guys before meeting you, that's your choice. I wouldn't want to be with someone who is so alienated from their own sexuality, but if you want a woman who won't suck your dick, go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:00 AM
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Incels shoot up places all of the time. Women fuck attractive asshole because they are attractive. Not because their assholes. You don't have that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:54 AM
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So what? The fuck boy also looked that way before society ruined him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:43 AM
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Who did I say I lied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:40 AM
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Because it's illogical. No one wants to have a bunch of incels not growing up and taking a shower because just it's so fun to reject you. Believe it or not, I have other ways to boost my ego than risking getting murdered by some guy who doesn't know how to take no for an answer. Take off the fedora, get a hobby, stop being an asshole, and everyone will be happier. Even you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:31 AM
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If you don't want to be a step dad, no one will force you too. If you don't want to contribute to the survival of future generations of the species, good. It's be harder for you to pass on your ideas. You'll have no legacy at all. I'll sleep with who I want and can pay for everything I need myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:27 AM
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Yes, that is how you can tell it's incel rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:22 AM
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Do you only respect men you are fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:21 AM
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No I have heard a lot of ugly assholes say the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:20 AM
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Yeah, dude, look in the mirror. Women will nod along to whatever you say. Women don't want unattractive men to stay unattractive just so we can have the satisfaction of rejecting them. That means we would have to compete among each other for the men who are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:18 AM
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If I think you're only good for sex and will die alone when you can't get it up anymore, I don't respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:14 AM
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How is this triggering to you? What's your problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:13 AM
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He sure sounds like one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:12 AM
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Why wouldn't I? Wouldn't you have sex with an attractive person if given a chance? It's extremely hypocritical to be mad about me taking an opportunity you would take if you had the choice to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:11 AM
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Sure. Why not? Who's business is it? If no is getting hurt, you're the asshole for policing how someone else lives their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:05 AM
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You did fine. Its not coercion. It would be if you threaten to kick her out if she won't have sex with you, but you didn't try to bargain with them. You have every right to break up with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you. You really don't need a good reason. Like you said, they are not entitled to a relationship. Even the second woman was in the wrong. She knew she was using you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:58 AM
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Sounds like a distinction without a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:30 AM
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Dude, you're gorgeous. What the fuck are you doing here? Is that really your picture? You gotta be full of shit. What could be so wrong with you that a guy with your face is posting incel shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:28 AM
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Yeah they do. If you have a fat fetish, you have a type. If you like big boobs, you have a type. If you like blonds, you have a type. Most people have a preference that is flexible enough that it may not be a deal breaker if someone doesn't check every box.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:23 AM
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Sure why not? Most of you are normal looking guys who are just in a negative feedback loop of bitterness that no one wants to be around. Fix that, and you have the same chance as any other guy. More so, because you actively worked on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:20 AM
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Why should you shame someone for living their lives happily without hurting anyone? If I want to fuck thirty guys, that's what I'm going to do. No one is stopping you from fucking thirty guys. Why is it a problem if I settle down with a guy who shares my values? Who am I hurting by doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:17 AM
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So normal people. You're basically admitting this is all bull shit, and you're all normal people building a subculture around bitterness. Like, seriously, are you that attracted to nearly every woman you see, or would you have to actually like most of them first before they grew on you? Do you not have a type? Would you not date outside of that type for someone you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:13 AM
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Men are more openly hostile about it, but that means they are more likely to have to face backlash for it. Women can get away with letting bigotry fester in the dark, until their boyfriend comes out as bi and they both learn right there and then that she is a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:08 AM
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Attraction is a scale. It's not as back and white as 80/20. Do you honestly think most women are equally attractive, and all others are equally unattractive? That's absurd. Of course not. Most people are attractive enough. Just because someone is more attractive doesn't mean you are not attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:59 AM
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Women aren't the only people with beauty standards and preferences. Men do too. That's human. Most women don't claim to be perfect. We only look wonderful in comparison. It doesn't make us horrible monsters that when given the choice of fucking an ugly asshole and a sexy asshole, we pick the fuck boy over the neck beard. This isn't a eugenics conspiracy, it's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:48 AM
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I never thought about it, but it is internalized misandry to gate keep masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:40 AM
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We don't respect "Chads", that's why we call them fuck boys. You can be LGBTQA and an incel. The word incel was coined by a trans woman. As far as keeping men in their place, are you mad woman at your level of attractiveness take the opportunity to have sex with someone more attractive? Wouldn't you if given the chance? Fuck an ugly like they do. There, that's how you be a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:38 AM
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