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MALE DEPRAVITYIamthegirliam/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/06/20 07:44 AM
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They usually are. All of the men that I know who are in their 40 (literally all of them) and even in their mid-30s look old.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 05:06 AM
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I ansewered because It's not true that only "aging women" complain about aging men. Most of us don't chose old dudes. Most women prefer men around their age. I don't know a single couple with a big age difference. Sure, they exists but they aren't the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:40 AM
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Exactly. I'm also 26, my fiance is my my age, all of my friends date men their age or slightly younger/older. I don't know a single relationship with huge age gap (more than four years). I never found older dudes attractive. And after reading Reddit I'm even more convinced, that it would be a disaster. I have warned my younger sister and her friends to beware of older men who might date and hurt them. My sister has already beautifully learned how to avoid them and make fun of them, when they won…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:23 AM
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No, we (young women) just don't want old boyfriends and husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:18 AM
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I'm not femcel. I'm 26, engaged, and I still would never date an old dude. My fiance is my age. All od my friends think the same. We call grandpas approaching us in bars "old beetroots". Our boyfriends or husbands are our age or just slightly younger/older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:42 AM
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Agreed. Old men approaching us (me or my friends) are creepy and disgusting. We call them old beetriots. Or pigeons, if they wear suits. None of my friends have boyfriends or husbands older than three year, most of us are with men our age or slightly younger/older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:36 AM
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Yeah. Reading posts about how daughters are awful and how these dudes how they would be not interested parents for them, I start to believe that the sexless epidemic and the fact, that women get married later and have fewer kids is a good thing. For women. I hope it stays that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:37 AM
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No. I never wanted to date old men (,yes, 30 was old for me when I was 19, even 25 was too much). They did look old and seemed creepy. Now I'm 26 and If I was single again, I wouldn't date someone older than 29. I, as well as my friends, get hit on by older men in pubs or clubs. And they all are creepy. We call them old beetriots and pretty much make fun of them. Our boyfriends and husbands are our age, or slightly younger/older. Like it or not, old dudes aren't the best choice for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 12:08 PM
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Pick me is not a woman who does all of the things you mentioned for a loving man who reciprocate. Pick me is a woman who degrades herself, brings other women down and sacrifices her own well being for a man. It's a woman who will do painful sexual things to not be a prude. It's a woman who won't say anythig when her man treats her badly. Pick me is pretty much a doormat, not a loving woman in a loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 10:15 PM
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I prefer men my own age, or three years younger/older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 08:14 AM
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Well, I know that It's a big sacrifice. And he knows it too. So of course I have a right to change my mind, that's part of our deal. You know, I still have time, we agreed that we will start trying in our thirties. So if by that time I will feel like I can't do it, I won't. We also think about adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 07:26 AM
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I'm not sure if it's a good idea. But I see how much he wants to be a father. And I belive, that he will share all the responsibilities with me and I won't have to sacrifice myself like some virgin Mary. I know his father who was a very active parent. He rased my fiance to be caring and loving man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:02 PM
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I think so. But I will also have my fiance, who will take care of the child. That's the point of having a husband, we do this together. My mother was pretty much alone with everything and still managed to run her own business and her family.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:31 PM
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I see it differently. I agreed to have one child and we will start trying after 30. Becasue why would I waste my best years, years when I'm most productive and have most energy on chasing a child and singing stupid songs about rabbit, when I could work on the things I love, do the things I always dreamed of? I won't have as much energy as I have now when I'm 40 to do all the things I do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 09:54 AM
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To be honsest designing new layout, or finishing animation, or playing a concert makes me feel much better than having nice pillows or fashionable apartment (although it's easy to have both). And keeping my apartament nice and clean is also my fiance's responibility. If he stopped doing it, I would stop as well. I woudln't to his laundry, would only clean one set of dishes for myslef, only cook for myself. I don't really want kids but I agreed on one, for my fiance in couple of years. So I will …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 08:03 AM
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Just talk to women and see, most women don't orgasm during sex, especially during penetration. We need clit stimulation for that. It' not a myth. Women orgasming easily from penetrative sex alone is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 01:27 PM
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No, but it's better if a woman can have her own money, so her husband doesn't "dominate her". It's better to have options and education. And let's be real, marrige puts a lot of new responsibilities on women and men. Why spending my best years stucked at home, when there is so many things I could do? No, I'm not talking about sex, I actually think that sex without love is gross. And maybe I misunderstood you, but I thought you meant that women don't need to get a degree and have a job because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:33 AM
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I was simply proving your claim that women "need to go to University, get jobs and have some semblance of financial stability before they get married" is completely incorrect. Your opinion that women in relationships are sugar babies if their partner pays the bills isn't relevant to that. Women need to do that if they don't want to end up as their husband properties or servants. It's healthier and safer to have your own money, hobbies and options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 10:23 AM
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I don't know, I never had casual sex. But even long term boyfriends or husbands tend to have problem with pleasing their women. So the fact that casual sex may be with someone who she knows well doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:03 AM
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Of course a partner needs to be attractive. But even a hot dude will not give most women orgasm if he doesn't stimulate the right spot (clitoris) and just focuses on penetration. Men are also more likely to orgasm faster, or cum by just looking at a really hot girl. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:02 AM
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I have sex with my fiance because he tries to please me and makes me cum. And because it feels great to be with him. I have my own resources, I feel great about myself, I don't need a validation from being naked with a man. And we had sex even when he didn't have any resources at all. If there is anything we exchange, it's mutual love and pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:49 PM
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The difference is, the probability that a woman will orgasm during sex with a random guy in extremaly low. And orgasming from penetration, even with attractive partner, is low as well. Women usually need much more than that. So what's the point of "openin legs" to any man no matter who he is if it, most likely, won't be pleasant? Men know that they probably will cum, and will somewhat enjoy it. We don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:24 PM
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I think it's awesome that he cries when he is happy or when I do something that should make people show emotions (like playing guitar and singing). It makes me feel loved and it showes that he really cares and wants me. I also cry when I'm happy. And it's much better than having stoic dude who act like he doesn't give a shit. My brother destroyed all of his relationships acting like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:05 PM
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Haha :D You got me. I meant skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:00 PM
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I "invested in my man" because we started dating almost right after highshool, and he invested in me too. But again, it wasn't one sided, I wasn't only supporting him, my developement was as important as his. But honestly, a man should try to be his best self from the beginning, just like a woman should. I wouldn't go for my fiance if he was a complete mess, or played viedo games couple of hours a day. I wasn't a mess back then, I had a plan, my first serious job and worked on developing new ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:49 PM
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You really think that men are loyal to a woman who wasted her best years for developing skills and wokring on herself on him? No, they don't. So option 1. And getting the young man is the best option fora woman, he won't be better looking or have better hair and skin in his thirties-fourties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:30 PM
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Yeah, women are bad, they hate their poor husband. We all would love to marry emotionless dicks, for sure. Women in abusive relationships are sooo happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:10 PM
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All women I know prefer men in their age. We are not a minority, If I was single I wouldn't date someone older than three-four years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:17 AM
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I don't know about other women, but I definitely prefer men in their twenties. Even when I compare handsome actors or musicians in their 30s to their younger selfes, they are nothing like they used to be in their twenties. James McAvoy has lost it, same with Orlando Bloom or Zack Efron.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:15 AM
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Yes. He had some some really stressful times when he felt depressed and cried, It didn't make me feel less loved by him, or less safe. I knew that he wouldn't hurt me and that he still cared about me. People have bad times from time to time, it's normal. It would be awful if he didn't want to share them with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:24 AM
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My man cries during certain movies, or when he is happy. He cried during my concert, he definitely will cry during our wedding. ​ He is the best man I ever met. And yes, I feel safe with him. I feel save when we walk at night together, I feel save "mentally" because I know that he loves me deeply and would never hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 07:27 PM
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Pick the dream over a man, always. I love this <3
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/06/20 07:59 AM
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Thank you, that's what I meant :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 08:28 PM
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Healthy amount of self esteem is ok. But showing too high self esteem is cringy and annoying. Acting cocky and "alpha", and pretending like I should be happy that he approaches me is bad. No, they are not god's gift to me, I'm not going to be happy that some old dude interrupts my good time with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 08:25 PM
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I agree 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:58 PM
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I think that in general most people don't really want to do these thing. But unfortunately the ones who do are pretty loud on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:54 PM
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resentment. Sorry, english isn't my first language. I mean, when they aren't dicks and don't try to push for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:17 PM
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Not if they aren't dicks about it, or if they don't try to break through my resentment. But some men, especially older ones, for some weird reason have too high self esteem and act like they are god's gift to me, which is disgusting and annoying. And I'm never nice to them because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:46 PM
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I never heard them saying whether they liked men with or without beards, so I can't tell. Although their partners don't have beards. I myself don't like long, big beards. I prefer shaven face or with just small amount of facial hair, (really short beards).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:29 PM
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I'm 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:58 AM
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Which young women say that Robert Downey Jr. is attractive? When we watched Sherlock Holmes we all agreed, that he lookes like a "daddy" (in a really bad way). I don't know a single young woman who thinks he is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:58 AM
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Yeah, I had some conservative marriges in my family (catholics, ugh). Most of them are divorced now because husbands were conservative sheeps, who cited bible to justify why their wifes couldn't go out with friends (with my mom for example) if he doesn't want her to, or why wifes can't spend money. My uncle would even "teach his wife how to behave" in front of us, during christmas eve supper for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 09:13 AM
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I'm not conservative and I'm not liberal. I do agree with some things both parties say but, in general, I hate them both. I belive that women are different than men. And that femininity is a beautiful thing. But I don't think that as a feminine woman I should be men's servant, or be submissive. I want to be succesful, have my own passions and be my own person, not just follow him and be a homemaker. I don't think that's men should pay for everything. I don't think that a woman should do most of …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 09:05 AM
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I partially agree, because I belive that women should march and protest against these men who violate our rights. I don't like this mindset that women should be fragile or step back compeltely, becasue sometimes we have to fight, in our own fights. But I agree that women shouldn't fight in battles that are men's fault, or fight for men. I don't know too much about the topic that this youtuber is talking about because I live in Poland and we don't hear too much about America or specificaly BLM an…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/05/20 07:43 PM
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Well, yeah, my experience is different. I don't know a single girl who dates or used to date older men. I also don't really see this "women want men who earn more than them", I have friends who outearn their husbands and boyfriends and they don't really care. My best friend supported her four years younger husband so he could finish his studies. The world isn't black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 05:40 PM
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From experience I know, that usually when men say that a woman is frigid or prudish they mean that she is vanilla and doesn't want to have porn like sex. Sorry for assuming that you are one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:38 PM
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I was called prude when I wrote that I would never do anal, deepthroat or BDSM. So... It's better to be frigid sometimes. Sex should be nice for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:13 PM
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They really don't. Most men don't gain confidence anyway. And too confident men become arrogant, which makes them really bad partners. And where I live men don't get better jobs or make much more money than women. And looks matter a lot, especially at the beginning. I never gave a chance to a man who wasn't really physically attractive for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:09 PM
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I'm from Eastern Europe and I've never heard people saying it. Buty people here also don't lie to themselves that old men are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 12:48 PM
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I'm from Poland and I never wintessed women approaching or chasing men. Especially when we were in high school, girls were brutal. But maybe not every Eastern Europe and country is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:56 AM
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I'm from Eastern Europe and I partially agree. I always made men wait more than three months, and so did my friends. I would never agree on anal or anythig bdsm/painful, sex needs to be good for me too. I don't agree that all you need to attract us is english language, money and car. We all have our vehicles and we know that most od foreign men come to our country for sex. So we know how to avoid them, or tease them and then run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:53 AM
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Please, I don't see old hot men anywhere, I'm always surprised when I read that old men are attractive. I don't like old dudes but it doesn't make me a femcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:07 AM
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Same cannot be said for the average woman. And same cannot be said about average men. Brad Pitt, even though he has lost it and is old, isn't average. Famous older woman also are doing great on a dating market. And they also looked great. But they aren't average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 10:37 AM
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That would mean that men become more psychically attractive in their thirties, which just isn't true. I never saw a man who looked better as he aged. Even my high schools "Chads" aren't chads anymore, and we are just 26. Look at James McAvoy, Zack Efron, Tuomas Holopainen, Nergal, Orlando Bloom. They all looked their best, were in their prime in their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 10:15 AM
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Doesn't matter, I don't want to be hit on by old men. Whenever an old guy approaches me or one of mu friends in a bar, we pretty much make fun of him. We call dudes in their mid thirties-forties who tryb to hit on us "old beetriots" or "pigeons" if they are weraing suits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 10:11 AM
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Brad Pitt looks really bad, so men shouldn't want to look like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:39 AM
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who cares ? I care. I want to have fun with friends, not be bothered with by dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:16 PM
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Sounds great actually. Seriously, I know too many "alpha" idiots, especially in my family who made lifes of their wifes miserable and mostly got divorced. So yeah, a lovely man who would cherish me sounds great. I can make most of the money as long as he actually loves me and supports me. My fiance is like that, he is kind and sweet,, and loves me to the moon and back. He earns as much as I do, but the rest applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:55 AM
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I don't know how my life is easier then life of my male friends, or other men my age. ​ I have work, suport myslef, had to learn everything I know by myself, pay for my hobbies, life etc. I spent a lot of time learning things to be able to achieve my goals, so everything I have is thanks to my hard work. It has nothing to do with me being a woman. ​ At the same time, I was chased by an angry man who was calling me a whore, just becasue I refused to go for a beer with him. I was molested at work …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 03:27 PM
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I have just always been afraid that my future husband will want to be the man of the house", leader or some shit and wil want me to be subservient. That's what I saw men doing. And it's not like their wifes stayed at home, they would still work. So in general, if a man is "traditonal" it's a bad idea to marry him (in my opinion). And it's better to work and gather experience first, before marrige. Nor surprise most of them got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:59 PM
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husband will be on my team with making sure you are a strong independent woman who works all the time. Lol, I don't work all the time. Not for my boss anyway. What makes you thing that? You have a weird idea of having a job. Better to have a husband who wants me to be "independent" and supports my dreams, than to have a husband who will decide for me and would forbid me doing the things I want. Being barefoot is a really bad deal. I live in Poland, we have long maternity leaves. I'm actually pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:27 PM
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I'm not. I change my job everytime I get a better deal/more interesting projects. And I take a lot of days of for my own projects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:44 PM
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Maybe big corporations are happier. But I'm happy too. It's important for me that I don't have to "follow my captain" and that I also can be successfull, and work on my dreams and ambitions. It's important that I can decide for myself where to go, what to buy, what to learn and how to spend my money. So if that makes corporate world happy then more power to them. Plus, my man would go to work anyway, so it's not like I would spend more time with him if I was SAHW. And I agreed on only one child …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:33 PM
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It's not like that. First, my man's voice isn't more important than mine which is a good thing. I make my own, good money. I don't have to ask if I can buy another guitar I or if I can go for a weekend with my friends. My fiance doesn't decide for me and his developement isn't more important than mine. My boss can't make me work than 40 hours a week and I still work from home and do my own freelance work as well. And if he did, I would easily find a new job or take more freelance jobs. And still…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:14 PM
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That's true. My granfather cheated on my grandmother since the beginning of their marrige, she was a virgin before wedding and he still would call her "whore". Men weren't these great loving husbands when women were required to keep their virginity till marrige.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 02:18 PM
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I think it might be a good thing, and I'm engaged myself (to a really egalitarian man, who doesn't want me to be his servant and only a helper). The end of traditional marrige means that things are changing for women. That women have finally freed themselves from only being a helper, or cleaner, and that it's more possible than ever to actually work on our goals. It also means that men don't have to be the center of our lifes and we still can support ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 01:55 PM
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And I'm responding in case of a woman reading your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:32 PM
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Most men seem to be like that. Even here, they don't even acknowledge that their future wife might have her passions or dreams. I've read many times that she has to do what he wants. I would be miserable if I had to ask for permission to do somethig. Or if my man's voice was more important than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:27 PM
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We both make sacrifices but his life goals and passions aren't more important than mine. This is a child's understanding of leadership. That's how traditional husband's treat their wifes. I know too many women from mu family who had to hide their hobbies, pretend that they don't pay for their classes or couldn't go out with their friends because "he was their boss". Of courfe the husbands had money for their "małe" hobbies. Most of them are finally divorced, my mom decided that she doesn't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:17 PM
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Why would I divorce him? Of course, if he didn't treat me like his servant or cheated on me. Plus, I earn my own money, I paid half the price for our apartment. I don't live in the US, he wouldn't have to support me. And honestly, I would more likely divorce a "leader" because having to ask for money for my passions, or asking for permission to go out, or always doing what he wants would easily build a resentment in me. I have seen relationships like that, all of these women finally run away. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:58 PM
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More important to who? To everyone who watches. Wives are not our teammates. My fiance is my teammate and my best friend. He supports my goals and ambitions and I support his. In healthy realtionship wife is a teammate, not her husband's servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:43 PM
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The boss is more important than his employees, president is more important than ministers. Millions of henpecked husbands beg to differ. And milion unhappy submissive wifes who have to do everything their husbands say would agree with me. I like to decide about my life as well, I also want to have a say. My fiance's goals aren't more important than mine. I also want to be succesful, not just support his success.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:28 PM
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No, husband isn't more important that his wife and he doesn't have to be a leader. I don't see why he would decide about my life? I don't have a leader in my relationship and it works great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:18 PM
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And at the same time insist that they are not shallow at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:09 PM
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Oh right, because wife is the enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:07 PM
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I don't think that what red pill calls "beta" is wrong, so I wouldn't prevent it. I hate rude "alpha" dudes. I never dated a guy who acted like an asshole from the beginning (although men do show their real face after couple of months, so they can be cute and nice at the beginning and then start to be assholes), so I definitely wouldn't want my hypothetical son to be one of them. If he was someone like any of these dudes from 21 studios, I would be devastated and probably lose respect for my own…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:28 AM
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I don't have a problem with that. I actually think that it's a completely justified reason to end a relationship. I'm honestly often surprised when I see people mad that some wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a person who used to do certaing things in the past. Not wanting to date a camgirls or former prostitute, or a woman who used to have sex with milions of men is completely normal in my opinion. I wouldn't date a guy who went to a prostitite, or who used o fuck around every. I refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:51 PM
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I would end the relationship. And I wouldn't wish that he didn't tell me. I don't have a problem with men refusing to date women because of their past, because I refused to date some men because of their past. I wouldn't want to marry a guy who had sex with prostitutes, who used to be a player or who used to be in BDSM community for example. And I understand why some men wouldn't date a woman who used to fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:34 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:19 PM
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I don't think so, most positions are only for men's pleasure. But yeah, I could understand that men don't get pleasure from giving oral because I don't get any pleasure from performing blowjobs. But I do them, becasue my man willingly goes down on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:29 PM
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Probably because PIV sex is barely pleasurable or, in many positions, not pleasurable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:09 PM
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Giving blowjobs is also only for man's pleasure. It does nothing to me. So it's only fair that my man goes down n me in return. ​ Although he loves it and does it for me during the day, without wanting anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:03 PM
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Of course it's not possible. He is actively hurting his wife. And he is destroying his family. If my fiance cheated on me, I would leave him, doesn't matter if we had children or not. And destroyed family would he his fault. ​ Loving husband doesn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:33 AM
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No. If my man ever cheats on me, it's over. I don't care if we have children or whatever. Destroying a family would be his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:51 AM
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And how many of those are there? I live in Poland and we don't have things like that. Or if we have, I never noticed them. And women still work, study, have their own lifes and don't praise men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:48 AM
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Reorder society how?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:27 AM
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So we are suppoused to fuck men so they will not rape us and make as their servants?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:37 AM
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But sex itsef isn't really that pleasurable. It takes time to learn how to please a woman and I don't belive that a man who doesn't love would try to work on my orgasm. So ONS are useless for many women. And that's why I never had sex outside relationship. ​ Becasue being penetrated by some strange dude is not valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:45 PM
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Sex everyday sounds like a really tiring thing. Not everyone wants to fuck all the time. I never was really horny, never really thought about sex too much, even as a teenager. For me once in two weeks is enough. Sure people should compromise and I do have sex more often. But a man also should compromise and agree on sex, let's say, twice a week instead of everyday (if she has a lower libido than him). Especially since it's hard to orgasm for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 07:12 AM
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Oh trust me, I used to be a people pleaser and kind of a doormat. But luckily for me, I also had a lot of older friends (women) and started reading about relationships pretty early. So I was warned about all of this, and that's why I never agreed on one nigh stands and I knew when to say NO. I remember that I woudl discuss this things with my best friends later on and we would support each other in breaking up with a guy or refusing to date someone. But it was hard for me, because sometimes I fe…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 08:27 PM
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I think that FDS teaches us how to not get in these situationships. I definitely teaches that and that's what makes them so angry.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 12:42 PM
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I honestly also don't see this "women will agree on anything if the man is hot". I don't know a single woman who would do that. I myself refused to date view guys because they were pushing for sex, even though before I would be crazy about them. No matter how hot men are, they can easily destroy it by behaving like alpha-idiots.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/05/20 09:31 AM
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They please you because they hope that you will please them. Not because they see their life's purpouse as a men's pleaser.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:34 AM
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Not true I promised to myself that I will never change my last name before I even met my man. I hate what this tradition symbolises, that's it. Attraction dosen't have anythig to do with it. I never wanted to be man's servant and that's why I would never change mu maiden name. Plus, I don't want to waste my time on changing go all my documents.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:31 AM
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That's true. Men think that their hobbies and their developement is more important and they will go out in the weekend or spend whole day doing things they enjoy, while their wifes have no time for themselves. That's what I see in my brother's marrige and my friend's marrige after children. Before they (women) would paint, play in w band, create things. After kids they don't have time for anythig because hubby is always tired and pissed when they want half a daty for themselves. Of course, these…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:10 PM
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Female sexuality isnt all about looks. I know what I like. And no, being mean to me or treating me like a fuck doll doesn't make me horny, or letting me know that he can leave anytime. So what? I could to, from pretty much any man in the world. The point of a relationship is to stay despite this ability. If he will leave whenever he finds a better option for himself, then he definitely should do that. I don't want someone who will cheat or run away. I used FDS strategy without even knowing it (I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 03:38 PM
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And a chance is, that he would fuck me and then go away. He wouldn't loose anything at all in that case. He would lose your company, time and money . If he left because I didn't have sex with him after third or fourth date that would mean, that he didn't care about my company. Because for a man to wait so long it means they lack the traits women need in order to find men attractive (alpha traits). If you can't stay attracted to the man, you will start resenting him. I find my man attractive, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 03:19 PM
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And he won't date you without sex. Yeah, and the point of waiting is to avoid men like you. And who you'll despise within a few years at best then cheat/divorce/deadbedroom. Why would I despise him? Because he respected my boundries and didn;t force me to do anything? Having sex early would not benefit me at all. And to keep dating you without sex doesn't benefit him at all either. Besides it does benefit you, you get a shot at a man you'll be able to stay attracted to. If he dates me only to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:22 PM
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I wouldn't say that men do less emotional abuse. I unfortunately have some male abusers in my family and they are abusive both mentally and physically. Usually one is linked to another. I honestly don't belive that you can be physically abusive but not emotionally. An abuser will treat his victim like shit, this way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:09 PM
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You can make a good guess I can guess. But he probably still doesn't love me. Not yet. And I don't have sex without love. I'm also risking by waiting for a longer time with sex to make sure, that he is the one. And the reward is great indeed. I get a loving man who will care about me and support my goals. Having sex early would not benefit me at all. And I don't want to give orgasm to a man who doesn't love me, no matter how much I like him or find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:58 PM
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But men do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:18 PM
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Men also hurt women through "small bites". It's not that men are only physically violent. They also gaslight women, bring their self esteem down, make them feel useless and many more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:17 PM
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My point is that just because a man is nice to me and likes me and I like him it doesn't mean, that I should give him sex. It's not enough. I can't know after a month if he actually loves me and wants to support me as a partner, and care about me in the future. No amount of vetting will change that, it's just too soon to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:51 AM
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I'm engaded. It already worked. I never had sex without love. You are being courted So? It doesn't make giving sex to a guy who doesn't care about me worth it. Just because he showed that he likes me it doesnt mean, that he will love me deeply after some time. You are being courted and taken on dates. If you want him you must understand he is not your girlfriend Wow, he paid for my coffee or dinner. How awesome, I will give him sex even though he doesn't love me, it's sure worth it/s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:16 AM
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Even if you are kissed and touched if the guy is unnatractive it won't do you much. Sure, that's why I never dated an unnatractive guy. And just being attractive is not enough either. And I'm not letting some stranger to touch me the way I need to be touched, noe way. We can control our urges but we don't need to. Especially for a stranger. Relationships are give and take, if you want the courtship to continue you have to give what we want. Yeah, but I'm not going to give orgasm to a man who doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:49 AM
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Of course I can. You can control your urges. And I don't get horny only because someone is hot, it doesn't make me wet. I need to be kissed and touched to feel the need for sex. So yeah, I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:46 AM
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I did. But when I started dating my ex boyfriend, after years of being friends, I still didn't know if I loved him. It takes time. Being friends is not the same as being a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:36 AM
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But I can't know if it's actual love, not just attraction. I can't have sex with someone I don't truly love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:32 AM
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But I can't love the man after just couple of dates, and he probably doesn't love me. So It's too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:14 AM
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Because she loves him? I also don't need a man, I have my own resources, I can do things for myself. But I'm with my fiance because I love him and enjoy being with him. That's the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:17 AM
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:D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:50 PM
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No, when they started telling me how deep would they pit their penises into MY mouth they stoped "just living their lives". It's not about you and making you feel comfortable. If it was, they probably wouldn't do it. Doesn't matter if It's about making me feel uncomfortable, getting my number or showing how dominating or "alpha" they are in front of their friends. Doing this kind of things is bad and should be ostracised. Women are right when they speak out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:30 PM
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It's shitty and I will call it out. They should be ostracised.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:09 PM
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Because screaming how deep they would stick their penises into my mouth is ok, right? Normal flirty behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 09:24 PM
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So what that there are a lot of people who do awful things? I'm not going to shut up about shitty men acting like total assholes. This kind of behaviour should be called out. I still feel insecure whenever I have to come back home in the evening (even 6 p.m. in the winter makes me feel uneasy). This kind of behaviour can destroy your whole day, makes you feel unsafe or, in best case scenario, really uncomfortable. And it's not that only old dudes behave like this. I've been catcalled in a disgus…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:55 PM
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No, we don't have a problem with dark humor (it's not only male thing, you know). Just not everything is funny. And even if it is, it stops after a while. And it's irritating when people try to talk and two or three guys are compteing who knows more jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:49 PM
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Doesn't matter. The point was that men try to pressure women into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:27 PM
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Pretty much turning a blind eye. I actually believe this is where most monogamy ends up. And as far as Well, I guess you can say that. If it doesn't affect our sex life then I think that it would be a waste of time to get pissed about it. I never caught my man watching porn but I assume that there is a chance that he does it. But as long as he doesn't try to make our sex life "kinky" and respects my boundries, I'm not going to throw tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:34 PM
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Neither. If he wants to be with me it means that he agrees on being in a monogamous relationship. If he cheats to have some sexual variety it will destroy our marrige, because I will leave him. If he openly watches porn and will try to do the things he sees there (anal, deepthroat) I will be disgusted and less willing to have actual sex with him. If he watches porn without trying it out with me then I guess it's fine. Although it's not a perfect situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 05:13 PM
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Example, one of many: a "funny" friend said that we have "sticks in our asses" because we didn't find his jokes funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:56 PM
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In real life I know a lot of women with a great sense of humor, so no. I also don't like stand up comedians, but I mostly know the polish ones who are pure garbage. Maybe other countries have better stand ups, idk. What I have realised is that, in real life, men will complain if you don't laugh at their jokes. There are these dudes who try to be funny all the time during parties or evening at the bar and it gets annoying quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:26 PM
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Doesn't matter, guys who do that are just shitty human beings. It's scary, disgusting and disrespectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:18 PM
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Catcalling is scary or, in best case scenario, really uncomfortable. Especially when I'm going back home in the evening or at night. I had to change my way from home to the shop because someone was renovating his house and his workers were catcalling me everytime I would pass the street. Other time some dudes were screaming to me from their truck (I was standing on a bus station at night) how deep they would put their dicks into my mouth. Men doing that are just shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:02 PM
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Why was that bad? That destroyed everything I felt for him. It's not disgusting by itself, you personally find it disgusting. Maybe. I still find it gross. Giving blowjobs isn't fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:25 PM
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I was crazy about him and he just wanted me to blow him. And yeah, talking like that to a girl that you date is disgusting. And blowing a guy who isn't my beloved man is also disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 10:16 PM
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Well, It didn't turn well for him because as soon as he said that I run to our friends (we were on a festival) and I told everyone about it. He got kicked out of our group not long after he said that. What he did was disgusting. Really, this is what impresses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:49 PM
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Yes, we are. I never had sex outside a relationship, which means that three dates (or even ten dates) is too soon to have sex for me. I need to love the guy to let him touch me this way. And yeah, some dudes I dated tried to pressure me into sleeping with them. Some guys are realy cute at first and then turn into creeps when they try to get sex. Some were so rude that they would try to make me feel bad for making them horny. One guy tried to make me blow him by saying that my future boyfriend wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:38 PM
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That's another thing. I would've died inside if my dad talked to me about sex. What I meant was that she should be told that she has a right to have her own boundries and that men, even her husband, might want to use her. Nobody has to mention sex and it should be said by her mother rather than her father.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:31 PM
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My reaction was the same. She should be told that It's ok to not do sexual things that she isn't comfortable with. That she doesn't have to agree on anal or deepthroat for anyone, even her husband. That's a good man will respect her. What he suggests implies that It's ok if her husband pushes her to do those things. Also make him believe you respect him and value him as a man (even when he's acting like a dumb-ass) Wtf? You would basically encourage herbaty to be a format for her man. Awful advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:20 PM
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Well, men on reddit like to say that a good woman should be quiet, submissive, passive and cute. Being such a woman would not help me to achieve the things I want in life. So of course we will talk about men, and more specifically, how to not be a doormat like they want us to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:00 AM
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If you have a man in your life (boyfriend, husband) and you are a people pleaser, he will be the center of your world. You will try to do everything to not upset him, to not argue, to please him. Even if you don't agree with him or it makes you do the things you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:57 AM
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This is the sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleLevelUpStrategy/ To be honest I don't think that most women there are looking for a super rich dude. Especially since it's obvius that a man with money doesn't necessarily equal good man. FDS encourages women to have their own careers, their money, to be able to support themselves. I agreed with you on the not simping for men part being good advise but what's step 2? TRP steps are 1: stop simping 2: improve your self and start approaching women 3: …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:53 AM
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Well, yeah, we were right after high school. But it doesn't matter how old we were, I still wouldnt have sex with someone who didn't love me. Because then he would could have sex with me and just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:24 AM
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When men are the center of the the woman's world, she feels pressured to please them, to do as they wnat. To never say no, or find the nicest ways to do it. One leads to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:23 AM
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FDS has a seperate sub for self improvement. And it does work. I used most of what fds says without even knowing about it at that time. I think that the main goal of FDS is not actually marrige. It teaches the things I mentioned before which are not be a doormat, to have your own goals and aspirations, to not let a wo/man control you, to avoid wo/men who will treat you like a servant/sexdoll/wallet. It teaches wo/men that wo/men aren't the center of the world and that we don't have to forget abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:18 AM
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Not really. A lot of women were raised to be people pleasers (myself including) and it makes most of us miserable. It is refreshing to hear that men aren't the center of the world and that we don't have to please them no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 09:05 AM
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Half a year. With my ex boyfriend I waited 10 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:46 AM
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I didn't know about FDS when I met my fiance, but at that time I was pretty much what they advice women to be. I had my hobbies, my own life, I wasn't a doormat, worked to develope my career. We waited with sex untill we both could say "I love you". I never had sex without love and thanks to it I've never been used for it. It worked pretty great. I don't think that fds encourages anything else than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:38 AM
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FDS says to not be a doormat, to have your own goals and aspirations, to not let a man control you, to avoid men who will treat you like a servant/sexdoll. It teaches women that men aren't the center of the world and that we don't have to forget about ourselves to be happy. Idk, sounds like a good advice to me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 07:33 AM
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I do think that both parties should work for a good relationship. I don't think that women should forget about themselves and be servants for their men. Men aren't more important than wonen
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 06:07 AM
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So being "the most valuable women" is not worth it. I would lose too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:53 AM
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Of course they will. I never had sex outside of a commited relationship. And forming relationship lasts longer That three months. I don't have sex without love. Fucking a cute guy quickly would be a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 05:35 AM
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No, he was actually really attractive. But he became an asshole (or was an asshole before and just hid it from me when we were just friends). You have no idea how awful behavior can destroy a handsome man in woman's eyes. I used to be crazy about one guy, I couldn't stop thinking about him. Untill he asked me to give him a blowjob on a festival. I felt disgusted and never found him cute again. Edit: From what I know being "white knight" means just being nice to woman and not hating them. Which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:19 PM
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Yeah, and I was miserable and dumped him when I found the courage. Why would I want a man who doesn't think that i'm the most important person for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:13 PM
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My fiance is the best man I've ever met. He is sweet and kind, tells me and shows everyday how much he loves me. Never screams at me, never shows disrespect, always supports me. He loves animals and takes care of them. Even though we've been together for couple of years now, our relationship is only better, not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:48 PM
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Yeah, that's why it's hard to find a good man who won't be a complete asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:19 PM
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Men change. Or hide their true intensions. Your can't just know that this guy is a good person. My first boyfriend was the sweatest man in the world. Untill he wasn't. And we were friends for a long time before we started dating, so I thought I knew him well. He was a great guy for his friends and an asshole fot his woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:40 PM
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That's not what some of these dudes here write thought. Usually when they write about us, they say that we are submissive and love to serve our men. They wish that we were their servants, not beloved women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:42 PM
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English is the easiest language in the world. Learning it is not a challenge. It's used in buisness because it takes literally couple of months to be fluent english speaker. English will never replace our languages, unless you invide the rest of the world and force it upon us, just like english did with gaelic. And you don't get pay too much for knowing english, but you get paid a lot for speaking finnish or korean. And it's not only about the money. Learning languages benefits your brain. Not k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:39 PM
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Yeah, I love when they say that men don't care about women's accomplishments. Who cares? I don't do things to get their dick's hard. Life is not about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:58 PM
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Probably. Although saudi women have started running away from Saud Arabia.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:52 PM
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It's always funny when men on reddit say that women from Eastern Europe are submissive and traditional. No, we are not. I don't know a single woman who wants to be her husband's servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:47 PM
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Why does everyone say that enjoying 20s means fucking around? I If I became a traditional wife I would miss out on a lot of things in life, like taking an intership in Finland that I dreamed of, doing all these creative projects that I always wanted to do, exploring my hobbies, and many more. I met my fiance when we were both 20 yo and even though I knew that he was the one, I also knew that I have to establish my position in this world so I don't become barefoot with children one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:44 PM
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That we prefer old men and that women like mean dudes who act like assholes. And that we would do every sex act for a hot guy. We wouldn't. I used to be crazy about a guy who, at that time, was really hot and I was head over hills for him. Until he invited me to his tent (we were on a festival) and wanted me to suck his dick. I didn't want and it made me resent him immediately. I like men who show that they care. I felt for my fiance because he helps animals and in general he is a really gentle,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:51 PM
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Sure you did. There is no bias at all. That's why your main female portrait is a depressed girl who doesn't really have any amibitions or hobbies, and is only happy when a men tells her what to do. What manospherian say is biased as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:04 AM
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> manosphere has been studying :D Guys from 21 studios or Stefan Molyeux for sure got this right and thir studies aren't biased at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:35 AM
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Yeah, I rid red pill sub when I want to cringe. Most of these field reports are like "she sucked my dick for five hours, orgasmed from seeing me cum, made me a sandwich, and then invited her friends so they can suck my awesome dick as well. Just hold your frame bro, show her her place!". Sure, buddy, definitely happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:20 AM
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That's true. Most of the women I know have hobbies and passions. ​ But there is a large griup of men who will ridicule every single think women do. So listening to men is mostly a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:15 AM
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Ivan Throne is really ugly. Look at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:58 PM
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How? Some women date older dudes. Most date guys around their age, slightly younger or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:56 PM
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No, because you basically subscribe to an ideology that does what you get your panties twisted up so much about redpill. How should women oppose it then? By pretending that we don't see redpillers calling us holes or sluts? I support it because it's a good response for what rp says. Normally I wouldn't care about it. I was happy when I saw FDS because I already knew about redpill and I was relieved that someone decided to create FDS as an oposition to red pill. I see it as eye for an eye. No mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:27 AM
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Because I don't humbly take everything what redpill says? Men here are funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:53 AM
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Oh honey, I'm happily engaged :) But it's funny that you everytime a woman writes something that don't worship men, they assume that this woman is lonely. Coping much. you'll ruin every relationship you wanna get into with your kind of thinking And what thinking is that? That women are worse than men? That not all men are worth trusting and it's good to avoid them? How could that destroy my relationship? What you've been blabbering about is literally the definition of female hypocrisy and you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:29 AM
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Oh, you little man. I admit, redpill hypocrysy is quite tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:24 AM
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Haven't you realised that calling men "low-value" or "moids" or "scrotes" is an answer for redpill and mgtow calling women "holes", "bitches", "sluts", "cum-dumpsters" and "foids"? TRP don't really bash on the whole gender either, just on the ones that aren't good enough TRP don't really bash on the whole gender either, just on the ones that aren't good enough https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/dwdne8/all_women_are_whores/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2hca1j/lots_of_quo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:00 PM
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FDS was created after redpill. It's a justified response for rp movement. I should've written "which women did that". Which women talked about men the same way as men talked about women? Calling us whores, sluts, holes, stupid, good only for sex and the kitchen. belittling women happened long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:45 PM
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Which women do that? We didn't create a whole movement dedicated for belittling half of the world's population. Redpillers sit there and call women "holes", "stupid bitches", act like we don't have our own dreams or aspirations. No, men aren't these perfect, noble creatures hurt by evil women. Not at all. And whatever FDS says, I just hope they continue. I mean, redpill started thi after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:39 PM
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FDS just teaches how to avoid men who want to use women. How to not be a doormat for men. Or who would pretend that they care to have quick sex. I think it's a very good strategy. It teaches to have a life outside a relationship, hobby, career. Or who would pretend that they care to have quick sex. I think it's a very good strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:24 PM
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Redpill is worse. And what did you (if you are a redpiller) expect? Redpill treats women as wooorse kind of people without different personalities, dreams, hopes and amibtions. They talk about women as a set of holes that need to be put in therir place. If fds seems toxit, then for a good reason. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2hca1j/lots_of_quotes_about_women_to_prevent_relapses/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/dwdne8/all_women_are_whores/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:21 PM
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red pill coach https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qu-B-L3u4wc/maxresdefault.jpg ivan throne https://live.staticflickr.com/4513/37853519622_9e899d3fc6_b.jpg Stefan Molyneux https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/extremist_profile_images/web_extremist-profile_stefan-molyneux.png And many more. Just google 21 studios.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:18 PM
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Red pill coach, almost all the guys from 21 studios. Below averege, mostly old and really bad outfits.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:01 PM
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You made a comment about my misspeling some words. And I say that if the only language you can speak is englush, the easiest and most basic language in the world, then making of of me is just silly. Google Translator translates poorly. Try to translate from English to Finnish. Or Finnish to Polish. Or english to polish. It won't make sense. In Poland, translator from Finnish to Polish earns as much as a good programmists. Only basic languages, like english, aren't that valuable. Not knowing any …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:57 PM
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They are all like that. Red pill coach (an old guy who says that men are most attractive at 45), all of these guys from 21 studios, they are all just cringy and below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:48 PM
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No, it's just a response. It's not even half as evil as redpill or incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:37 PM
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English isn't my first language, so I might make mistakes. How many languages do you speak?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:35 PM
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How do you want to fight them by being nice? Women need to learn about it to know, how to avoid these guys. Of course they won't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:46 PM
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Why? I don't need a strategy, I'm engaded. I'm happy that it exists, expecially since there is redpill and incels around. That's why I support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:42 PM
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The horror! It's true, I support FDS. And the fact that redpill gurus are below averege is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:38 PM
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All redpill gurus are below averege, most are also pretty old so...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:34 PM
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Because redpill calls women whores, holes and sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 12:24 PM
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Well, he preyed on you. You are young, maybe felt the need to be nice. He was a piece of trash and you have every right to hate him and be mad at him, but you shouldn't let this overpower your life. Have you told him what a piece of shit he was? ​ Also, I'm only six years older than you but I remember that there were tons of articles regarding men manipulating and preying on women. They would cover stories of women being in relationships with manipylative men who would destroy their self esteem,…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/05/20 09:59 AM
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Yes, you do. Men aren't those wonderful creatures that some guys want to belive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:08 AM
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"ideals" don't hurt their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 11:07 PM
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And you can't find a woman?? Not gonna lie, your life sounds like a dream. We (me and my fiance) are working on our portfolios to be able to work abroad as freelancers and become digital nomads.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:05 PM
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Of course men would love to come back to patriarchy when mostly they could decide for themselves and were served by women back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:50 PM
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Women aren't capable. The proof being modern wester civilization. This one? Yeah, I don't see how modern western civilasation is a proof of women not bein't capable of holding responsibility. We are doing pretty great. ​ And I still don't know how am I not responsible for my own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:10 PM
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What responsibility I don't have that men do? I work, pay my bills, worked hard for everything I got. So tell me, what I'm not responsible for?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:03 PM
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No, you ingore what I write by not even responding to most of the things I said. But I adressed almost everything you said. You know that what I said is just true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:02 PM
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Of course we are. We live in the best times possible. I wouldn't change my emancipated society for patrarchal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:50 PM
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I wonder how he'd feel about my desire to peg my husband! He would probably scream something about "the fall of western society". At least that's what theese guys cry about these days. Honestly, posts like his make my happy that feminism happened. Imagine, if he's real, that someone like that has a wife in pre-emancipation society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:47 PM
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I don't abuse her You wrote that puting a woman in pain for man's pleasure is ok. You hurt your woman sexually to feel masculine, you abuse her. Woman's pleasure is just as important as man's. false Of course it's true. You just don't know how to satisfy your woman. my wife loves me so much that she loves giving me pleasure and submitting to my desires. And probably fakes it because she's afraid of voicing her actual needs, that you would ignore anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:36 PM
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Why would only he decide how many children we have? I would be risking my health during birth, my children would grow in my body. Of course I should decide as well. No, strong men love their women and don't put them down. And don't abuse them to feel masculine. Why would only men decide what their women's sex life should be like? Woman's pleasure is just as important as man's. It's obvious that BOTH PARTIES should enjoy sex, so both parties should decide how their sex life should look like. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:20 PM
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Yeah, I think that too. I can't take him seriously after he wrote that a loving woman should be ok with pain during anal sex. I think that's the guy who once wrote that he supported female genital mutilation. So either he is trolling or is a psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:07 PM
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Articles like this condition women to think that having healthy boundries is not cool. No girl, you don't have to agree on anal, you don't have to be "kinky". He should do everything to make you pleased, as it's much harder for women to orgasm than it is for men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/05/20 06:03 PM
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Lol, none of us is submissive. You really read too much redpilled bulshit. He does things for me, I do things for him. You know, like people in halthy relationships do. Your wife is being put in pain by her "loving" husband who wouldn't even make her a sandwich. And she doesn't have time to relax or do the things she enjoys, and this somehow would be better? We will have max. one kid and have time to enjoy our lives. I can do the things I love and I don't have to fear that my man will abuse me. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:51 PM
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Wow, you put your woman in pain and she makes you dinner? How much love is she going to get from you? And her husband wouldn't even make her a sandwich. It just sounds so awful. He gets sex that he like, just like I get sex that I enjoy. He doesn't have to hurt me to have a good sex life. Good men don't hurt his woman. If a man wants to put his woman in pain, he isn't worth shit. He gets a lot of love from me, he doesn't have to hurt and abuse me to be sure, that I truly love him. And he truly l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:13 PM
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Money allows you to do more things. Thanks to money I can fulfil my ambitions, have my hobbies and do the things that make me happy. Being a SAHM would probably force me toonly on the home, which would not make me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:03 PM
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Well, my fance is manly enough to not have to put me down to feel good. I love him deeply because he is amazing and because he actually cares about me, and doesn't feel the need to hurt me. I just ate an amazing dinner made by him :) I feel sorry for your wife, she has a husband who doesn't have a problem with hurting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:44 PM
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No man who loves his woman will want to hurt her. If my man wanted to put me in pain for his own pleasure that would tell me, that he doesn't really love me. Again, sex is also for women, I deserve to enjoy it and be pleased as well. I'm not any man's servant, I won't be a submissive wife, or some other redpill bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:31 PM
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A man who wants to put his woman in pain doesn't really love her. Again, I'm not going to hurt anyone hurt me. I don't hurt him, why would he hurt me? Sex isn't only for men, a good men will want to make his woman feel good, not hurt her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:24 PM
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I wouldn't. And also he shouldn't hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:16 PM
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No I wouldn't. There is nothing that a man could to that would be similarily painful for him and pleasurable for me. And sex should be pleasurable for both parties, not just for the man. If a man knows that he will cause his woman pain and still wants to do it, that he is not worth anything. I don't agree to be hurt during the day, so why would I be ok with him hurting me in bed? I'm not a masochist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:06 PM
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No, I wouldn't. I also want to enjoy sex, not only do things for my man. I'm not a masochist. Sex isn't only for men. I can do things for my fiance, becsuse I'm sure that he will also do things that will please mostly me. But I won't do anything that will degrade me or put me in pain. Even if it seemed hot at the moment. I want to enjoy sex as well. Like actually enjoy it, not to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:46 PM
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Yeah, I realised that they just don't want to hear the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 01:26 PM
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I do rely on reality, I don't rely on things that people say on reddit. That's why I know that men being these great, loyal friends is bullshit. I used to belive that men are better and I burned myself. Because it's just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 01:16 PM
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And literally none of my friends did. We all agree that having an old boyfriend/husband is just quite disgusting. And again, we have our ways to make of of old dudes approaching us in a bar. And in general, women prefere dudes around their age anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 01:01 PM
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It's definitely not absolute truth just because some men say it is. I've met too many unloyal, frustrated, fake men to belive that they are these great friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:59 PM
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We do have problems daitng old men. I wouldn't date a guy in his mid 30s, it's too old. And yes, you can see their age. None of my friends dates or marry old dudes. Whenever someone older approaches us in a bar, we call him "old beetrioit" or "little dad" (in polish it sounds better). Most women prefer men around their age, just slightly older/younger/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:57 PM
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Most posts here are anecdotal. I just can't belive that women are worse friends, when, when I look around me, it's never the case. I work with men, have male friends, family members, my brother's and fiance's friends. I know that men can act really badly, can be unloyal, gossip and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:50 PM
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Risk of pain is always there, much bigger than during normal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:49 PM
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It doesn't change anything. I wouldn't do it even if I wanted to. Again, not every woman agrees on pain only to please some dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:51 AM
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Most women don't. We need clitoral stimulation. Clitoris is an eqivalent of penis, not vagina. Expecting women to orgasm from penetration alone is like expecting men to orgasm from having their balls touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:35 AM
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Of course not. I would never do anal, deepthroat or anything with BDSM. No matter how "hot" it can be. Not every woman wants to be in pain during sex. The world isn't porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:33 AM
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Boys aren't meant to sit around in silence for a whole day Girls aren't either. It's hard for everyone. We got punish for walking around their class as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:21 AM
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But it's true. The best people I know are women. I used to have male friends and they all disappointed me. When I needed help, women were first to have my back. Men talk shit about their friends all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:06 AM
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I know. Especially if he would be really horny. My point is that women don't expect men to do that, as it's much harder and not true for many guys. So why would women be expected to orgasm only from vaginal stimulation, when we can do it easly from having our clit touched?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:44 AM
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That's true. Being a SAHM isn't a thing where I live, but women usually stay a year-two with a baby after they get birth (maternity leave). And what I see is that men, as soon as their women "stay at home" stop treating them normally. And it's not even about the money, because these women still get paid. It's common that a man will do his hobbies (like basketball or whatever) but wil try to forbid her to do hers because they are stupid. It happend in two cases in my family. He can go out but get…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:52 AM
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That's not true. Clitoris is the organ resposible for our pleasure, not vagina. Expecting women to orgasm from penetration alone is like expecting men to orgasm from touching their balls. Clit is the eqivalent of penis in women's body, not vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:25 AM
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Naah, most of us want to date young dudes. I would never date an old men, niether would my friends. Whenever some old guy approaches one of us in a bar, we are quite disgusted. We call these men old beetrots. We all have men our age or slightly younger/older. Shaun mendez is much hotter than Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt is a sad shadow of him youngself. Same with James McAvoy, Zack Effron, they all look much, much worse than they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:23 PM
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I'm not conservative at all. This are not insecurities. I can't fully open myself in front of someone who doesn't love me and care about me. There is nothing insecure about it. Being touched by someone wouldn't open me up, plain attraction doesn't even make me want to kiss someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:57 PM
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Not necessarly, and I wouldn't feel comfortable enough to relax and enjoy. No way I'm letting someone I don't really know and love to touch me this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:34 PM
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But I need to love him and trust him to let him kiss me and touch me, to make me horny. So I would wait anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:28 PM
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No, it's people who aren't sexually attracted WITHOUT an emotional connection, they could be the horniest people in the room, but they only want that if they actually have something in common with the person. I doubt this is a thing that happens. It happens. I literally never in my life felt horny just because I found someone attractive. I need to be kissed and touched, I never felt instant need to have sex just because I was attracted to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:18 PM
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Bitter old men throw tantrum as well everytime we say that we don't want to date old farts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:37 AM
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Maybe, but whenever I enter redpill space I see tons of voices refering to women as whores, bitches, stupid, plain. Men saying that women should listen to them, never complain etc. That women's self esteem needs to be broken. Or like I said, dudes saying that they don't apologise even when they make a mistake. Reading and listening to all of that makes me really doubt in good intentions if redpill guys. So it's better to educate women about it and make them suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:05 AM
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So all men in redpill sub or running redpill channels are in anger phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:09 AM
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Very, very few millennials and the like are willing to live in a humble abode for any amount of time, let alone volunteer for more than a few days doing legitimate good, which has become an all too frequent justification. How would I know? I've literally been on those couple of week long voluntourism trips in the past. And they literally do not give a fuck about their environmental impact, which is most concerning. I 100% agree. Are you aware of these so called influencers and YouTubers that eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:00 AM
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Yeah, I've heard about these idiots. Mostly from the US, UK and Canada. Countries producing milions of ignorants. Where are your statistics about women travelling for attention is social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:56 AM
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Not everyone who loves travelling do it for likes on Instagram. I see all the time guys saying thay women travel only for attention and that's just mit true. Men actually say it about every woman with aby hobby. Almost every passion is a cliche now. Travelling and fishing. Playing guitar, drumms, football, learning japaneese, fitness, video games and more, all of this things does not make anyone special or more interesting by default. And they are all pretty basic. But seriously, I don't know a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:51 AM
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Please, I know more women who did hardcore travelling than men. One of them travelled through Asia on a bike alone, camping in the wild. Other two used autostop and travelled the world. Another worked in renovations in different countries collecting money to pay for her trip, also around the world. And I met three men during my trips who only travelled to find a wife. That's much more pathetic if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:30 AM
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I hate to interrupt, but everyone in their 20s know what it is. I also use couchsurfing, worcamps and workaway a lot, you're not that special. And even my friends who in general don't like travelling, use couchsurfing when they finally decide to go somewhere, so they can meet new people. Again, not so special.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:24 AM
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I never wanted to get married, I just wanted to be in a long term relationship. I saw marrige as a church's thing (most people I knew had catholic wedding), and I didn't want to declare my love in a place that sees women as men's tools, or says that women have to serve men. But marrige is important to my fiance, so I will do ot for him. We will just have a humanist wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:28 AM
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The part where they call for negging, manipulating, making her do painful sex acts (e.g. anal) etc. Oh, once I saw a guy saying that he never apologises to his girlfriend, even if he knows that he messed up. Because he can't lose his frame. So you know, things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:39 AM
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Red pill- men calling women sluts and whores, talking about them as they are less of a human. Guys who want to spin plates, neg, make their goal more important than woman's. Guys who expect women to do what he says. Also guys who will try to make her do the sexual things that she doesn't want to and will say that she isn't attracted to them, if she doesn't let them do anal. Guys who will lower her self esteem. Not a surprise that they get suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:32 AM
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But maybe she doesn't find you attractive? Or even if she does, she doesn't want to have sex and doesn't want to openly say no either. My friends do it for me everytime we go out. I don't look for anyone but I also hate openly saying to gtfo. So I pretendent to be interested and after some time they save me. And I do the same for them as well. I didn't know it had a name.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:23 AM
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That's what I see. I talk from my own experience, not from what some guys in the internet tell me. I don't think that it would be bad if they wanted to, but they don't. They literally complain that they had to stop talking to a guys because he tried to have sex with them. I never had sex untill I was sure that the man loved me. There are people who agree on ONS, but there are the ones who don't. Because casual sex seems gross for many of us. Again, the world isn't redpill fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:11 PM
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That's true. Finding redpill made me lose respect for men a little bit. But I started telling my friends about it and they say that they became more suspicious whenever someone tries to ask them out. Which is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:53 PM
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But there are single women who study and in general focus on their developement without fucking everyone they can. Literally all of my friends all like that, or used to be like that before they met their men. Some of them decided to not date anyone at all untill they finish their studies. Not everything is the way redpill portrays it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:46 PM
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It's easier and safer. I'm engaged but I waited with moving in with my man until I was sure that I would be able to pay for my hobbies and courses. And that I will still have my own resources to fulfill my plans. That's what my friends do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:35 PM
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It might be better for her career prospects, but most men don't give two fucks about her education when it comes to marriage. Yeah, but I don't study, gather experience, travel and learn to make men like me more. I do it for my own benefit. My friends do the same. Seriously, not everything is about dating and sex. Of course we will do things that don't necessary "make dicks hard".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:31 PM
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Lol, nobody wants five children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:41 AM
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Being a SAHM is a bad deal for women. Husbands will give their wifes food and clothes, but not more than that. By working I don't have to ask for permission to do the things I like, I will have money to pay for them as well. In Poland it's not really a thing, at least in among younger people. Women usually work full time and, if they have a baby, they take a maternal leave for a year or two. But then they go back to work. And even during that time I see, that men suddenly become those stereotypi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:08 PM
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Wakes up from what? You think that me not having casual sex with everyone around would somehow make him unhappy? Sex and commitment are different things, FFS. People enjoy sex on the regular because it feels good. I don't have sex without commitment. Especially when it's easier for men to orgasm than it is for women. What's in it for me? So some strange guy can leave me and brag about fucking another girl? And honestly, after reading redpill talking about "spinning plates" I can see, that I made…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:31 AM
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You think having sex is being used. Yes, you are very emotionally healthy If a guy "spin plates" then yes. That's why I waited, to not give a chance to men who just want an easy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:43 AM
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What an awful woman I must be. Didn't want to get used and prefered to wait to make sure that he is the right one. What a horror. Oh, these poor little men. Sure, female friends - the epithome of honest. Because people should belive bunch of bitter, redpilled dudes instead, tight? They for sure know that was men loooove penetration. Harder they better, isn't it? They for sure know better what I and other women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:11 PM
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I don't agree. I get asked for a date by more handsome men than my fiance. But I wouldn't go with them, no matter how much I wanted. I commited to him, I love him. I don't love this hotter dude, or the dude with similar passion to mine. I already know my fiance, I don't need to start all of this all over again. What you say is not what I see in life. But we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:41 PM
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Because they believe they are with the best option they have. There is always someone better or more interesting. The thing is... he is valuable to lots of women, that is the reason he has more options than the beta. Only to those who don't care about relationships. Women don't find being rude or a fuckboy high value. Not the ones who look for a normal relationship. They will try to change him and make him "beta".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:26 PM
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That is the way most women act. They have options so they don't stay unless the man does exactly as she wants. I don't agree, it's not what I see around my friends. Both men and women try to make their relationships work. And to be honest, what redpill calls "beta", which is just a good, loving men who cares about his woman, is actually high value to me. A fuckbooy wanting to use me isn't. So I'm always surprised when I see redpilled dudes writing that "you will scare alpha away", as I a guy tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:32 PM
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But the point is that it doesn't matter what he brings to the table if he doesn't love me enough to not leave me If don't become a submissive doormat. Doesn't matter if he is handsome or whatever if he will leave as soon as I don't do what he says or have a different opinion. That's why it's worth to wait with sex. To make sure that a guy that you describe won't stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:18 PM
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Yes. And when you are with a man with options there is already a template to solve those disagreements. Do what you have to do to keep the relationship alive or the relationship dies and he gets another relationship that does not make a fuss about that particular disagreement. In this scenario and then I'm the only one who has to keep him and band back and forward to make him happy. What about me? You are forgetting that being with a guy is not a reward, no matter how "valuable" he is. He has to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:56 PM
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Again, man who will cheat on me as soon as he doesn't get anal or whatever is not a catch at all. I agree. I said nothing about cheaters. I say the man with options can just leave. If he will leave then he is not a catch either. Because he finds me special and treats me as I'm the one for him? Not the kind of tought that a High value man (a man with options) would have. Then this "high value man" won't be valuable to me. He doesn't do me a favour by being with me. I want a man who will understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:45 PM
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No, I'm serious. When I see men talking about having a sahm, they usually want to have a servant. I myself witnessed relationship, where man's hobbies and eucation were more important. And the woman wasn't even a permament SAHW, she would just stay at home for two years after the baby was born. Men will give their wifes money for food or clothes, but they won't agree on paying for their hobbies, development or even trips with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:47 AM
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> A free woman is not a happy woman Of course she is happy. I have my own hobbies and aspirations. I wouldn't be happy if I had to listen to my man all my life and if I wouldn't able to do the things I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:24 AM
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Yes, with a friend like you, I am sure they are all jumping at the opportunity to tell you what a thick hog feels like inside them. Lol, they would say this even before I lost my virginity (some of them are older). We talk about everything. We don't need to pretend that we are something we are not, we are not redpill men with low self esteem that are afraid to be honest around their friends. That's the fact, most women don't get satisfaction from penetration alone. And look on female forums, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:48 AM
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And that way is knowing and vetting the guy BEFORE dating him. But I still wouldn't know if I would fall in love with him. And veting and searching for red flags requires much more time than couple of weeks. And why love that woman when you can love the woman that actually gives you what you want? Because he finds me special and treats me as I'm the one for him? Again, man who will cheat on me as soon as he doesn't get anal or whatever is not a catch at all. I don't want a cheater, the worst kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:05 AM
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And this man doens't have to be much older. My fiance is my age. All of my friends have man their age, or just slightly younger or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:56 AM
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It's saying a lot that your argument against I am a virgin is saying I have a boyfriend - you just said you ain't giving him shit unless he commits. Yeah, we didn't have sex untill he told me that he loved me. With him I wated half a year. But It was a great time. Most women, that have sex and find it pleasurable don't waste time talking about how this is normal and everything is fine. People with bad experiences are much more likely to share those xperiences and find support. All of my friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:52 AM
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I hava a fiance, before him a had a boyfriend. Of course I'm not a virgin. But I knew this things even before I lost my virginity. Female forums and friends, gave me enough information. Everything is pleasurable, or should be. From the first look, to the teasing to the touching to the turning on of your partner... it's really not just a chase for that big O. But penetration isn't that pleasurable, sometimes isn't at all. Not my fault. Most women don't even penetrate themselves during masturbatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:39 AM
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Women prefer older men. Matured, handsome, rugged, manly, experienced, wealthy, tall etc. Women don’t want to date “boys”. No, we don't. Most women don't want old men. 20s/early 30s is the best. I would never date a guy in his mid thirties, none of mu friends would either. We all have partners our age or two-three years younger/older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:03 AM
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Maybe to not being an asshole to a beloved woman? Most women have options, and a lot of men. The point is to not use them when you really love your partner. Why would I be with someone who would try to make me do the things I find awful, or else he would cheat? The point of waiting is to not get together with someone like that. Waiting is benefitial for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:39 PM
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Probably women who also don't really look for ltr. And even if they want a relationship, they still hope that he won't use them or use his "options" to make them do the things he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:33 PM
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I don't think that most women consider fuckboy high value. No woman wants to be in a relationship with w dude who will cheat or leave when she won't do anal. Or allows herself to sometimes be too tired for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:23 PM
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Subjective definition is the only one that matters at the end of the day. Why would I want a man who is considered high value by other people, when his behavior isn't high value to me? A fuckboy isn't someone I want. I think you are exclusively imagining a man that has options, is willing to pick the best option from the ones he has AND is not compatible with you/does not bring value to your life. Doesn't matter of he has options. I also have opitions. The point is to find a person who will not …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:14 PM
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Because having an old husband will benefit mostly this husband, not woman, and they know it. He will want kids quickly and you will have less chances to do the things you love, like digital painting, playing in a band, web designing, camping in Norway ect. Husbands hobbies and opinions would be more important, as he would have the money. Being dependent is not a good idea and they are aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:54 PM
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Forget about the orgasm...damn so much penis envy...let's remove the orgasm from the ecuation if it bothers you that much that guy get to pop easier. Just sex, no cumming for the guy... Why is it unfair and one sided then? Penetration itself isn't really that pleasurable.In in many positions it's not good at all. Good clitoral stimulation is the key. But a man can't know how to please the woman during the first couple of times, because he has to learn how to kiss her neck, pussy, how to stimulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:52 PM
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I also can't know if I want a long term relationship with this man after a view weeks. That's why I always waited, to be sure. So i'll sign the contract after he signed a blank page and lets me write the terms. Or I will give him sex and risk a lot, without knowing if I truly love him. He will for sure get sex and orgasm, I might get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:58 PM
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High value man can't be an asshole. Bein an asshole makes him low value. We are not talking about men who think highly of themselves. We are talking about a man that is high value. Whether he thinks highly of himself or not is a different matter. A high value man can be an asshole but he does not need to be one. Man who is high value will be loving and will care about me. Will respect my boundries and be justa good man. A handsome fuckboy isn't high value, he wouldn't add value to my life. Compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:56 PM
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If the man is high value, no woman is special. If he stays with some woman is not because he finds her special but because she offered more than the alternatives. Well, then I don't want a high value man. Again, I'm not looking for someone who will leave me as soon as I refuse to do anal, make him angry or have a different opinion. Why would I want to be in a relationship with someone like that? No man is special either. I can make him special by falling in love with him. But in general, no man …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:34 PM
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Then he is not that high value. If he was, it would be a good deal. Having to do everything a man wants is never a good deal. No matter how high value he is. I want a loving partner, not a master. My man needs to try and alo do things for me. I agree. And that is why I say that is wise to know him before dating him. Because once you start dating him you are facing competition. And if your competition is willing to give sex earlier then you are going to lose. Because he is high value. He can get …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:19 PM
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Love implies a physical intimacy and sexual chemistry... otherwise, it's just friendship with sexual frustration. Sure. And I will gladly engage in loving sex as soon as I'm sure that I love him and that he loves me. Not before. Because that's how you make him care about you. But I don't know if he wants a long term relationship or is just looking for sex. Why would I risk for him? I never had to, I always made men wait. Intimacy is the process of making one another feel special. Having probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:06 PM
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I don't know if he is a high value man at this point. I need time to figure it out. A high value man isn't a price if he just "is". He needs to be good to mel, love me and care about me to be worht staying with him. Well he has the chance to replace you. That is the incentive to make things go the way he wants. If he didn't have that chance (even if he cares for you) then he isn't high value. I also have chance to replace him, at any point. And what's the point of staying with him? Again, doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:02 PM
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Yeah, but just having a man isn't a price. If he doesn't care about me and will gladly replace me as soon as something goes not the way he wants, he is not a reward. He has to show that he is worth anything. Being respected by other fellow men is not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:35 PM
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As long as you see it as a exchange, a tik for tak deal, nothing. Relationships are multiplicative AxB =more than A+B.... unless A or B is 0 But at this point we are not in a relationship. So why would I please a man who most likely doesn't really care about me too much? Penetration if for him, intimacy is for you. What intimacy will I get from a guy who doesnt' think that I'm special to him? What intimacy can I get from doggy style or cowgirl? Come on. If I give him pleasure and penetration bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:01 PM
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He just met you! What world are you in that random strangers "care" about you? Exactly. So it's better to wait and chcek if he will start to care. I don't have sex before i'm sure that I love him and he loved me. You get to have sex That's most likely won't be pleasurable. Plain penetration isn't enough to make me orgasm and I doubt that he would spend his time exploring what I like. Do no, no benefit. No sex is better than sex without orgasm and connection. What if we have sex quickly and he le…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:13 AM
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A guy who can't wait and doesn't think I'm special isn't high value to me. I don't need a fuckboy who will leave as soon as he can for another woman. I don't have sex without love, and I obviously can't know if I love him after a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:08 AM
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Well that would be the cost of her enjoying her youth in that scenario. No, that would be the cost of not enjoying my youth and geting together with an old dude. If I took a 35 yo man in my early twenties, he would be over 40 or even 45 by the time I got in my early 30s. In my mid 30 he would be in his 50s. Like attracts like. You are in a bubble. No, I don't. It'sa really common. The world isn't as scary as reddit paints it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:23 PM
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I don't see why. The man does not have a biological clock. He can wait. Yeah, and then his is in his 40s or 50s when he gets his first child. His sperm has much lower quality and he has much less energy to keep up with the newborn and actively taking care of the child and the mother. Or she is 30 with a 40yo husband, not a good deal. If he is young, then he is the exception to the rule. Most young men are not ready for commitment. Not true. Most of my friends are in long term relationships or ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:15 PM
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But younger men are better, especially for young women. My fiance is my age and he is ready for commitment, and he has been more ready than I for a while. He declared his feelings pretty early. All of my friends have boyfriends or husbands their age, or slightly younger/older. Women don't have to take old dudes to find a good man. It would be on you to find the man that "lets you" do that. As if he can do anything to stop you on the first place. Well, of course he couldn't. But the point is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:58 PM
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> There is an easy solution. Don't date young men. Go after the men that are ready for that responsability and don't reject that style of dating. ​ But I don't want an old man. Many women don't. What's in it for me? My fiance is my age and I think that it's the best. My would I be with someone who is in his 30s and 40s, when I'm in my 20s? So he can be happy that he got to enjoy his single life and got a young woman as he got old with wrinkles and baldness? And you think he would let me to trave…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:27 PM
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No, I wouldn't have sex with him. I can't love him after just one or even view dates. And he for sure can't love me after such a short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:06 PM
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Yeah, and the point is to avoid these men who just want to have sex with any willing girl, and aren't looking for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:59 PM
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I never slept with any man quickly. The shortest time I waited was half a year. More women wait than you would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:53 PM
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I don't see what else could I learn from getting dumped after quickly sleeping with a man. Maybe that I should always wait with sex and see if he is serious. But again, I know it without sleeping with every guy who wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:26 PM
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What lesson? That men can be pretty awful and use me? I know that without sleeping with every guy who wants it. So it's better to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:16 PM
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I support FDS and I never had a ONS. I don't even need a strategy, I'm engaded. I only slept with two men, both in long term relationships. I always made men wait until I was sure they care about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:07 AM
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I need to have heavy emotional connection first I have the same attitude. I never had sex without saying "I love you first" and men who would push for it and try to put their hands in my pants would lose my sympathy. And yeah, some man would lose interest after they realised that I'm not going to fuck them after couple of dates. But I've also found an amazing man who also valued connection more than meaningles sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:57 AM
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Having a dick in my mouth isn't pleasant. Sucking it isn't pleasant. Having precum isn't pleasant. And I won't orgasm from penetration alone, it's not possible for me. Not every time, not every seventh time. Doesn't matter. Of course ot does. He gets pleasure much faster and easier. And everytime we have sex. If we had penetrative sex I would never orgasm. And only missionary is slightly pleasurable. Other positions are only for him. I wouldn't have sex only for man's pleasure. He has to please …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:47 PM
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Not his fault. And not mine. Expecting to be pleased when I please him is not hypocritical. Pleasure is easier for men. They get orgasms everytime. And honestly, why would I have sex if I knew that most likely won't feel pleasure and only he will get to orgasm? And sucking dick isn't pleasurable either, sperm is disgusting. But women still do it for their men. And I won't orgasm from penetration alone, it's not possible for me. Not every time, not every seventh time. I need clit stimulation, lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:06 PM
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Wtf,my orgasms never last that long. Even when I do it myself. And it's easy to make man's orgasm last longer, you partner can keep sucking or moving after you cum. Listen, if our sex contained only penetrative sex, I would never orgasm. Only he would. And that would make me resent sex. Plain penetration just isn't that pleasurable, and after view moves it's just meh. Why does it bother you that men plese their women? How is this a problem? It's hard for me to orgasm so my mam takes care of it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:48 PM
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I don't think he gets less plesasure, he orgasms everytime easily, I don't. And yeah, if I have sex, I want to really enjoy it. Period. One sided sex doesn't interests me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:55 PM
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Sex isn't equal. Men have much easier time reaching sexual pleasure. Even if my orgasm is better, it's much harder to reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:47 PM
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I know that I could orgasm from my man's fingers. I just like oral better, and it's much easier for me to cumm from it. That's why my man pleases me this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:45 PM
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So why doesn't your clit work? My clit works, I just don't stimulate it myself during sex. My mam does. Just like I stimulate his penis. I wouldn't be willing to please a man and give him orgasm if didn't do the same for me. Why though Why would I want to please him if he didn't want to please me? Sex isn't Justin for men. Nope. Can you actually address the point? Men don't get any pleasure from sucking on your sweat box. Zero. You get pleasure from sex, you just have a problem that it'sless tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:35 PM
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Again, vaginas aren't responsible for female orgasm. Doesn't matter if you like it or not. Clits are. I never orgasm without clitoral stimulation. Most women don't. Most women orgasming during penetration still stimulate their clits at the same time. You don't perform cunnilingus on vaginas, but on clits. It is orgasm orgasm for orgasm and pleasure for pleasure. I wouldn't be willing to please a man and give him orgasm if didn't do the same for me. Why would I have sex if my man didn't try to pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:25 PM
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My clit is fine. Oral just feels best. If you think that most women orgasm from penetration alone during sex with you, without clitoral stimulation, then some of them probably lie to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:18 PM
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Who is to say that you're not just desensitized I'm not, my clit works just fine. You have one third of a chance for it to work though. Those are pretty great odds. I don't, my body doesn't orgasm during penetration. I orgasm easily from clitoral stimulation. Why should I make cumming much harder for me? For what? Sure because 100% of men cum that way and it's enjoyable for both parties Please, it's just ok. I definitely don't have much pleasure from penetration. I never even tried to penetrate …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:15 PM
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Maybe because a third of them do ? Because probably their clits head is placed closer to the vagina? For most women it's anatomically impossible. Expecting it is stupid and would destroy sex for me. Nerve endings don't necessarily equate to pleasure. So try to orgasm from having your balls touched. DO do you expect to have their most pleasurable part of your body stimulated during sex, everytime? So why wouldn't women expect the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:48 PM
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Well, giving oral to a strange man would be gross either. That's why I never agreed on one night stand. Why would I? They are disgusting. And it seems that I wouldn't be pleased anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:45 PM
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I find sex as something intimate, not an exercise. I don't want to be used. I don't want to please a man who wouldn't do everything to please me and would just look for easy sex. I usually paid for things on dates. Sometimes a guy would get a beer, sometimes I would buy a coffee. Do women not enjoy sex? Reaching sexual pleasure is harder for men than it is for women in most cases. And I doubt that a man who deosn't love me would care enough to do everything I need to feel pleasure (penetration i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:32 AM
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6 months, for my fiance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:27 AM
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I only slept with two men. I waited half a year to have sex with my fiance and and around 10 months before I had sex with my ex boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:26 AM
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Of course you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:30 AM
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Why would I have sex with someone who doesn't care about me and doesn't love me? What if I had sex with him and then he would decide that he doesn't want to continue? He would have his orgasm, what would I get?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:29 AM
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That's just not true. I just didn't want to end up having sex with someone who didn't love me and could never fall in love with me. Why would I give orgasm to a man who didn't care deeply about me? It's better to wait. I never had sex before I could say "I love you".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:28 AM
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I liked my fiance very much and I wanted to touch him. But I still waited untill I was sure that he loved me and I loved him. With my exboyfriend I waited even longer, 10 months. I never slept with a man that I didn't have a really stron feelings for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:26 AM
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Need clitoral stimulation thought. Oral is the best for this period.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:53 AM
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Clitoris is an eqivalent of a penis in women's body, not vagina. You don't expect men to orgasm from having their balls touched, so why do you expect women to orgasm from vaginal stimulation alone? Check how many nerve endings are on the head of the clit and how many in vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:17 AM
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Touching clit during penetration is like masturbation and destroyes the mood. I have sex with my man to not have to masturbate. Plus, touching myself makes it impossible for me to focus on sex and I just stop moving. And it doesn't give me orgasms anyway. So if I make him orgasm, he has to work for mine. My man has to go down on me to make me cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:13 AM
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What’s wrong with rubbing the clit while being fucked? Because I don't feel like I'm having sex then. I can't focus on rubbing my clit and having sex at the same time and I just stop moving. And honestly, I don't want to have to focus on his pleasure and mine and the same time. He knows that he will orgasm thanks to me, I expect the same. But penetration in general doesn't give me pleasure, so my man gives me oral, this is his effort. And honestly, I please my man so I expect him to please me. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:04 AM
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That women should never pay for themselves. I actually enjoyed it. I was proud of my job and the fact that I make good money, and I kind of liked to show of (only during dates though).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:30 PM
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That's interesting what you said. I think you might have a point. If someone is treated poorly, especially by a person who is suppoused to be loving and supportive, it must bulid resentment. Althought I think that leaving would be a much better option than staying with a shity person. However I do think, that there are men who just want to put their partners in pain because this is what turns them on. Or just want to fulfil their fantasy without caring about their partners comfort. And expecting…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 08:08 PM
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What being treated like beta looks like? Being nice to his woman? I think if a guy puts up with that in life... then he she should be willing to put up with that in the bedroom. I see men who stop putting up with it, also lose most of their weird kinks and fetishes. They stop enjoying anal porn and become more vanilla. I don't really get what you mean but They stop enjoying anal porn and become more vanilla. This seems like a good thing. I mean, if my man wanted anal or put me in pain during sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:52 PM
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If you want to tell me that watching a movie he doesn't like or going to the restaurant that he doesn't enjoy is the same as chocking someone with a dick then I don't really agree. I don't see what men do in a relationship that would be as degrading or painful as unwanted kinky sex is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:33 PM
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Wanting someone with large penis or big breasts is not the same as expecting your partner to be degraded in pain for your orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:26 PM
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I a woman wants to hurt her man than I'm also against it. Of course there are porn-sick women to who don't respect their men's boundries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:34 PM
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Well, then maybe I will think it through. I actually never thought of it this way
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:04 PM
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First of all, I don't think that eating a woman out is degrading for men, quite contrary actually. It also wouldn't make him less of a man if I sat on his face. I don't have a problem with him doing it normally, but if I sat on his face it would be uncomfortable for him and he would have a hard time breathing. I love and respect him too much to do it to him, just like I wouldn't want him to chocke me with his penis. Just like I don't have a problem with regular blowjobs and I don't feel degraded…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:25 PM
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I am really vocal aboud my boundries. But just becasue a woman never said specifically that she doesn't agree on deepthroat it doesn't mean, that a man can suddelny start to chocke her with his dick. It's abusive. Same with slapping me or "surprise anal". I shouldn't have to list every single abusive sex acts that I don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:25 PM
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I luckily have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:16 PM
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men have to always be the active one that takes initiative, says and does things that the woman then reacts to. But it still doesn't mean that women should agree on painful or degrading acts that they don't want to, like anal or deepthroat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:16 PM
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A rude or violent person is not a valuable partner for me. Rough sex is a too high cost. Sex isn't just for men, I also want to feel pleasure, not be treated like a sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:08 PM
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I don't know, I'm not into kinky sex. If I have a right to say no and if I'am not afraid to use it whenever I feel like it, I'm assertive. Whenever I don't follow becaus I don't want to, and when I hold my boundries, I'm assertive. Very view people are only dominant or only submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:07 PM
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Well, that's something I can't understand. I would never want to seat on my man's face even though I think it would be hot. Because I don't want to treat him like that. But I guess different people like different things. I will ugly cry if he ever degrades me and he knows that. Dominant and assertive are on the same page in my book. That would mean that a lot of people I know are "alpha". Including women. I myslef learned how to be assertive, from being a pushover. And no, hardly any women are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:56 AM
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Who tells you to be dominating all the time? Seriously. I don't know a single man who is "dominating-strong-alpha-24/7". Nobody expects that from their husbands or boyfriends. Living with such person would be a burden honestly. Being assertive is good though for both, men and women. You really want to be degraded? You really want to be put in pain? I mean, really? And still, it doesn't explain why should I, as a woman, agree on painful things during sex just because a man is dominating. And btw,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:36 AM
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So the only sex that "isn't boring" is the one when men pretend that they hate their women? And honestly, If the only thing that will not be boring for him is abusing me, than I'm ok with him being bored. Or with any man in the world being bored. I don't put him in pain or don't demand anything hurtful from him either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:32 AM
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What do men do during sex that is painful or really uncomfortable for them, but pleasurable for women? Why should men be allowed to put their women in pain, or pressure them to to painful or even dangerous sex acts? Sex isn't just for men. Do you think it would be fair then if men would stop doing the things they don’t want to do? Some things are necessery and should be done for both, men and women. But abuse or degradation are not one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:26 AM
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I don't have to pretend that my man hates me or don't respects me to have good sex. So you see why he tries to do these things with you. Since he doesn't have the prostitute option, like the men before him, he tries to do them with the GF. It feels like you are just having low effort ,boring sex. Just because I'm not being abused during sex and I also get to be pleased, it doesn't mean that our sex is bornig. And not every fantasy should be fulffiled, especially if it is abusive towards your par…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:23 AM
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Getting physique, becoming handsome, becoming tall, becoming rich takes lot of hardwork and luck before women even display interest in you. And when women do show interest in you, shouldn't you exploit the fuck out of them? Deepthroated them fuck their ass so they don't want for a few days. It only seems fair imho. Lol, no. That's disgusting. If she wants it, fine. But if she doesn't want it then of course fucking not. Sex isn't only for men. And no, men don't dereve to hurt their women just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:13 AM
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How? I'm doing pretty great. FDS teaches women to not be doormats. And that they don't have to, among others, agree on being in pain or anal to please their men. Just because something is his kink doesn't mean, that I should do it. Especially if it can hurt me. ​ Don't see what's wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:06 AM
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But I don't need him to be in pain or degraded for my pleasure. That's the difference. It's not an equal effort. And I don't need him to stop himself from cumming, because I, like most women, don't orgasm from penetration anyway. I get oral and he gets oral. It's fair. He gets his pleasure and I get mine. If I knew that I will be in pain during sex, nothing he would do next to please me would work. Anal or deepthroat, or pain and discomfort in general would kill the mood for me. Well, they had p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:55 AM
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The culture allowed men to beat theri wifes. And often the way women were treated by other men in their family. You really belive that porn doesn't influence minds of teenage boys? That when boys watch hard degrading porn with anal and deepthroats, it won't affect their sex lifes? Porn says that it's ok to hurt your partner, becasue "it's a kink, bro!".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:50 AM
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Yeah, I suuport FDS. So? More women think like me than you think. We really don't dream about being hurt and used by men. I don't need a strategy because I'm engage but I think that it's a good think that FDS exist. It should be out there at least as long as Red Pill exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:41 AM
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There probably are some women who enjoy it. But a lot of us don't. I'm vanilla and I intend to stay that way. No matter how "hawt" anal could be. When I talk about sex with my friends they all agree, that porn sex is disgusting. And we talk about everything. I also read a lot of female forums, many of them complain that their men are too rough. Like I said, my friend almost divorced her husband because he got crazy about anal and some other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:33 AM
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You seriously think men didn't try to put it deeper or in your ass before porn? It wasn't normalised and men didn't expect it from theri loved ones. Him hurting or degrading me is not caring about my needs. So if he does to me, he doesnt care about my pleasure at all. Anyway degrading the partner is something men enjoy sexually. So it is something you should get used to Yeah, no. If my man enjoys degrading me than he has to be prepared that his needs will not be fulffiled. Sex isn't only for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:29 AM
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Why? Becasue I don't want him to abuse me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:20 AM
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It is a problem. I only dated two men, both vanilla. And even my exboyfriend, who was usually kind and sweet wanted to try some of these things. My best friend almost divorced her husband because he destroyed their sex live with anal requests. A lot of men try deepthroat, even without asking. And it is from porn because my friends see what their men are watching. Even here on reddit I saw men stating, that if women is in love she will agree on every sick act. Which is not true. I do love my man …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:12 AM
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That's not what I said. Do you see the difference between caring about your partners pleasure and engaiging in painful or degrading things for someone's orgasm? I'm ok with my man wantintg me to blow him or with trying different positions for him. Just like he tries to please me the way I need it (which doesn't require pain or degradation). But I wouldn't be ok if he expected me to try anal or deepthroat, because it's not ok to expect that I will do something painful or dangerous for his pleasur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:56 AM
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Porn makes men expect anal, deepthroats and all the kinds of sex acts that are painful, dangerous or uncomfortable for women. One thing is wanting your beloved woman to experiment a little bit and move, another is expecting her to enjoy being in pain only for man's orgasm. I can do nice things for my man but I'm not letting him chocke me, use me or put me in pain. Also, it teaches men that women get crazy when they are penetrated, and then men are surprised that their partners need differet stim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:45 AM
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O course it was an insult. Just because he did it during sex it doesn't make it ok. I'm my man called a a "whore" or hit me during the day I would leave him and, in case of hiting me, call the police. So why would I be ok with it during sex? Violence is violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:09 AM
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Where do you live? I never witnessed it. Whenever a "coky asshole" enters our group we (girls) roll our eyes and ridicule him later. No matter if he is cute. My brother is a guy like that and, even thought ge earns good money and is good looking (which, as rp claims should make him popular), he is lonely. Even I stoped talking to him some time ago. I, and all of my friends date normal, nice men. And I don't undersand this idea that man's behavior turns me on. I would give a chance to a man if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:57 AM
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Female killers get attention, letter and even marrige from men as well. Some people are just messed up, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:41 AM
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So I have a question, are you sure it's about most women and not about your personnal experience ? How do you know that the main meal is oral for most women and not... I don't know, griding, or fingering, or penetrative sex, or both penetrative sex and fingering ? I'm not the OP but yeah, I think she is right. It's true for a large number of women. Penetration doesn't do much for me, it definitely isn't the best part of sex. I feel everything, it just isn't that pleasurable, it's just ok. Finger…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:31 PM
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Not really. My friends don't have one night stands either. I suppouse that some women belive that they will find love this way. Some maybe actually enjoy it, or hope that they will find someone who will make it enjoyable. I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:48 PM
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Lol, then they lied to you. Clitoris is literally an eqivalent of penis. Again, chceck out how many nerve endings women have inside vagina. Maybe bigger dicks look better, I don't know. I also would prefer bigger dick than a small one. Not because it would make me orgasm (it wouldn't).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:26 PM
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At the same time most women need clitoral stimulation during sex. Look how many nerve endings is in vagina, and how many on clit. Touching clit makes us orgasm. Doesn't matter if you like it or not. No amount of alpha redpill bullshit will make vaginal stimulation better than clitoral stimulation. No matter how alpha a man is, dick will not magically stimulate my clit during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:47 AM
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That's anatomy, jesus. Look it up. Clitoris is an equivalent of penis in women's body, not vagina. My clit isn't stimulated during penetration, it's not possoble. No amount of red pill bulshit will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:31 AM
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Pick one - you don't HAVE to trust him - RPW are very clear here - not all men deserve the captain's seat. But those that do, those that you pick to be your captain, you do because you trust them. Because they have shown to be competent in their single life, more than you, so why argue with him about it? If he is a real eatate developer - isn't it silly that your inexperience opinions have a equal say in this decision? (yes, most men bluff, but they bluff because most women poke and prod and won…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:33 AM
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They don't say that. Quite the opposite, it's complimentary relationship. So you are crucial in some aspects, you are the decider in some aspects, while you concede your views in others. (if he deserves it, if you are convinced that the man is better than you in those aspects - if not don't, but then probably the dude isn't worth it) I'm crucial in "feminine aspects" that in general are not actually that important. So what If I get to choose what we eat for dinner, when he gets to choose where w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:59 AM
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Yes, I have read their sub. I don't want to be seen as this less important part of a relationship and never have a fiinal say. I don't want to only have "traditionally feminine" hobbies like baking, sewing or dancing. Because I like other things that that. I don't want to forget about my aspirations or dreams only because I should be submissive. I've also seen one of them saying that women shouldn't really expect their men to please them sexually. They can hope and ask, but if they don't feel pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:03 AM
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Although I'm not a redpill woman and would never want to be seen as one, I think she had a point. I knew that having sex would be easy for me, but I also knew that it wouldn't benefit me at all. When I was growing up I used to read many forums for women. I also had some older female friends who would often say, that sex isn't as good as they say it is and that it's very often a disappointment. So what I learned was that women have a hard time orgasming from sex, that most women don't orgasm from…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:43 AM
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If you want it than more power to you. I know that it's not for me. I want to show my success and have a strong position in the field of my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:13 AM
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If I gave birth he would have to do much more than he does now for the first fiew months. That means cooking, grocery shopping, mostly cleaning AND working. I wouldn't do all of that with a newborn, and he knows it. But that would be a short period of time, as I would never agree on more than just one child. And no, I wouldn't want to spend years at home with the kid, no homeschooling either. I would come back to work. Plus, my man would take paternity leave for a half a year to spend this time …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:56 AM
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I know very well that I don't want and old man, husband or boyfriend. Older women didn't have to tell me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:19 AM
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I alsondont want to run around him reminding him to do his part, because let's face it. Men need reminding lol. Then all that will happen is he will think your nagging him constantly and then leave My fiance never needs reminding. He sometimes reminds me that I was supposued to byt grocieries to prepare lunch for next day, or iron clothes. Becasue I'm the one who forgets. I cook basic meals and mostly do smoothies for dinners and breakfests, He is the one who cooks all those fancy, vegan meals. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:14 AM
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I don't see how not getting dick would be a problem. Dicks aren't even that useful for orgasms. I also don't see anything you mentioned. All the people I know, (expect the ones who lost their jobs) are doing great. That means both, men an women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:38 AM
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No, just because a man provides doesnt mean he is an asshole. It's a common misconception, while sure there are controlling men, most extremely respect a woman, I mean, you must have to if you wish for her to stay home and relax herself. My experience tells me something completely different. And I don't want to be a home Mamed. It's not for me, I don't like having all the houswork on my head. Now I have whole weekends and weeks without cleaning and cooking, because my fiance does it (other times…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:35 AM
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That's what I see when I hear about "traditional" relationship. Men who can't even change a stupid diaper and will not let their wifes to go for a two days trip on a weekend, because they don't know how to take care of their child. It's just too risky. Plus, the one who makes money usually is the boss. I just don't want to risk, I want my fair share in everything. Your inability to find solutions that require more than zero thought is a "you" problem. I would still have to ask for money and for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:28 AM
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What do you call a woman that does everything for her man, but has similar standards for her man? A good, equal partner. It's obvious that pickmeisha isn't the one who has healthy standard and expects equall effort and support from her man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:18 AM
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How losing would bez good for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:15 AM
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Because being a doormat is bad for the person. And pickmeisha is a perfect example of a doormat. It's a kind of girl who forgets about her needs to please her man. She wil, for example, let him do anal even though she hates it and it's painful only to be a "cool girl". She will not want anything in return to not sound "entitled". What would a man gain A servant. What does a woman lose. I think that I, as a woman, would lose everything what's important to me. ​ If your friend was a doormat for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:16 PM
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I don't want to have many kids, I agreed on just one, in view years. And I'm not going to spend ten or more years doing mostly child care. It's not for everyone. Raise your kids and then go work part time for your own money lol. Who says you cant. And miss couple of years of making connections, developing new buisness and strong position in the market. Woman staying at home means that she has to submit to her husband and do what he says. Or that's what I see when people talk about traditional re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:05 PM
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Yeah, And he will have a final say and will be able to refuse to pay for my new guitar or digital painting classes. I don't want to ask for money or for permission to do something. I don't want him to lead me or have a final say about everuthing. It's better to make my own money, so I can have my fair share in making decisions and leading our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:00 PM
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I don't have a desire to forget about my hobbies and aspirations, and instead just stay in the kitchen all day long.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:17 PM
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I agree that, if my man wants to have a child with me, he will have to pay for everything, including my free time, hobbies and clothes for the time when I'm pregnant and for the first year or two with the baby. But In general, I definitely don't want to be a stay as home mom, no way. I want to make decisions, have money for my hobbies and pasions. I don't want to be submissive and I want to do much more than just taking care of my husband. I want to have my own money. Not every woman wants to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:15 PM
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Maybe. I'ts not really important, so trying to learn it is just a waist of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:29 PM
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Some women will date much older men, but most prefer men around their age or slightly older (3-4 years). I just know that I, as a young women, would never give a chance to an old men. I wouldn't want to be 40 and have a husband in his 50s or even 60s, or to be 26 and having 36 yo fiance. I also never met a woman with a much older man, so where I live it's not common. There are women who date and marry younger guys as well. There is so many people in this world that almost every configuration is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:33 PM
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I wouldn't date a man 10 years older than me. The older guy I could date would be 29 dude. None of my friends have old husbands or boyfriends. We are mostly with men our age or three-four years younger/older. I also don't do one night stands but I doubt that I would give a chance an old guy, unless he would look like he was in his twenties and was very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:38 AM
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Please. There is nothing more pathetic than guys bragging about the number of women they fucked. Or in general their sex life. Everytime they do it, me and my friends look at each other, roll our eyes and then laugh at them. We call this guys "alpha males" but it isn't a good thing because this term has a bad meaning where I live. Only here I see people using it not ironicaly. I usually use if I make fun of a pathetic dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:29 AM
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I don't know, I sometimes read here that a woman needs to agree on everything if she truly loves the guy. Or I've been called prude for saying that I would never try anal or deepthroat. My friend almost divorced her husband, because he couldn't understand why didn't she want to try anal and kept pressuring her. Some guys just don't see it as something resonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 10:46 PM
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Well, I only slept with two men, both in long term relationships. My fiance is my second and last. So I'm not a vrigin waiting for marrige, but I did decide to never have a one night stand and only have sex after the man actually shows me and tells me that he loves me. - I'm not religious at all - I don't have any psychological problems - I'm interested in sex, but only in regular, vanilla stuff. I would be probably called a prude by many men on ppd. That means that I will never try bdsm, deep t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:34 PM
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Maybe. I felt in love with my first boyfriend after couple years of being just friends. So I know that people can develope feelings after some time. If I was single and still felt something for this person person, then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:24 PM
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> how do you get that tingling playful feeling when you know your man always gives you whatever you ask? It wouldn't be tingling, it would be irritaiting and would make me angry. My man's opinion matters, and he knows it. But his opinion isn't more important than mine (and vice versa). I wouldn't change a dress where there is no time and I'm not half naked just because he said so. Telling me to wear something different last minute is just disrespectful, and I would feel resentful towards him, un…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:00 PM
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Trust me, vegan cakes can be decicious too. I've learned during this whole covid situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:14 PM
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They are really good, especially the ones with salty caramel :D
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:06 PM
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I'm doing and feeling pretty great. I had to change my plans but its not that bad. I meet with my friends on skype, we spend a lot of time with my fiance, we bake almost everyday weird vegan cakes and cookies. I work from home, managed to take hobby classes through internet, same with my language classes (through skype). I started two new projects with my colleagues (online). I feel like I'm developing even more than usually. I'm actually quite enjoying this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:58 AM
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No, I'm saying that not all travel girls are sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:54 AM
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They say it to scare you, so you take the first guy who approaches you and marry in your late teens/earley twenties. It's also some kind of revenge fantasy. Don't listen to delusional, angry people. Once I found a youtube channel run by older, unattractive redpilled dude. He said, that men are most attractive at 45 yo. He himslef looked like stereotipycal incel. So don't listen to these people, it's not worth it. Look around, 30 and 40 yo women get married, get laid, are happy. Although I don't …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/04/20 08:13 AM
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Thank you! I will check it out :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:28 AM
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I do have sympathy for both men and women, who can't find love or friendship. I just don't care about the ones who want to fuck around but can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:26 AM
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I'm curious, what is this digital painting group? Is it like an online hangout for a paint night, but everyone draws on their computer at home? It's more like a support group. We share tips, ask for critical opinions regarding our art work, share progress, go to lectures together etc. It's really fun:)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:06 PM
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That's also fair too. It does suck for people who are more gender-segregated though, because if you don't have any female friends, how are people supposed to get to know you? I agree that it's hard. My "social circle" has always been quite diverse, getting to know someone (a good man) wasn't an issue because very often a new person would join our group this way or another. A lot of my friends are in relationships with their long term friends, or friends of a friend. I know that not everyone can …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:34 PM
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I think it's possible, sure. If I was a decent men I wouldn't aporoach a woman on the street either, knowing what I know. But first, I hate being approached by strangers. Doesn't matter if it's a pub or a street in the middle of the day. It's just awkward I don't know what to say and just laugh all the time, and I don't like being interrupted when I'm having fun or minding my own buisness I have always been aware of the fact that some men who approach me might have good intensions and are actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:44 PM
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Not the whole world is US. And a women might have five or eight different boyfriends during her life and have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:27 PM
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Definitely not most. I'm not saying that it's something bad if they do. But women have less pleasure than men from sex in general, and men want casual sex much less than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:13 PM
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I don't have any sympathy for men who can't have casual sex. Many women don't want to have one night stands, so you are competing with smaller number of women who want it. I really can't see it as a serious problem. I'm not willing to help to fight this "sexlesness epidemic" because how? I wouldn't have casual sex if I was single and I wouldn't encourage my friends to do it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:33 PM
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I don't know what some guy's intentions are when he approaches me. It's fair to assume that they want my number or to get to know me, at least that's what my experience tells me. I've been called stupid whore and other things when I refused to give my number to some guy. He followed me and nobody did anything. Other times men don't take my "no" seriously. Usually I pretend that I'm interested (for my own safety) and then block them as soon as they text me. So that's why It's better to ignore the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:27 PM
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I would get crazy if I had to be a SAHM for five years. I went to gindergarten and I have great memories from that time, even one best friend. It's not as bad as people say. My man wouldn't expect me to contribute anything, he himslef wants a child and says that it would be up to me if I come back to work or not. It would be my decision to not stay at home for too long, and I would also expect him to take care of the child and learn how to change dipers, so I can go out sometimes and have some t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:19 PM
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I'm not planning pregnancy for at least five more years, If ever. But no, he wouldn't have to watch me being 8 months pregnant rolling my ass to work. I mostly work from home anyway (or my won office). But if I didn't, and it would be too hard for me too go to work, I would take a leave. Not being able to work because of being pregnant is a short period of time, most women I know work till 6-th month and then take maternity leave. But pregnancy is not an ilness. During the first months I would w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:04 PM
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How are they stupid? They buy thing for their men, their men buy things for them. Sometimes I pay for plane tickets and hotel during holiday, another time my fiance does it. I think it's a normal couple thing. I'm not dependent on him, I aso work, I want to have my fair share in everything. This means that we share financial responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:43 AM
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I think we should teach women to expect that many men's desires don't change radically as they age, and there's some biology to that. The hot 25yo woman in prime childbearing age is still that whether you're 25 or 55 yourself. Well, it doesn't really matter. I understand why old dudes approach us, but it doesn't make it suddenly ok for me, still would't date them. I wouldn't give them a chance if I was single, because again, I don't want an old partner. And I don't want to be seen as a trophy or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:21 AM
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Doesn't matter. I don't know a single women who doesn't support herself. The one who has a child still works full time. Only pathology doesn't work but it refers to both, men and women. Yoy don't need to be a lawyer to pay for everything. My first job was really shitty and I still managed to support myself without anyones help. But I live in Poland, maybe it's different here. Being a sahm isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:40 AM
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In what world do you live? I paid many times for my fiance. My friend supported her husband throughout his whole studies (she is older than him). Another bought a car for her husband and paid his loans that he took without her knowledge. I saw my mom paying for shit, mu friends paying for their boyfriends when we go out all the time. Many women pay for everything on daily basis. It's not 1950s anymore, thanks god.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:34 AM
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I traveled solo a lot, still sometimes do even thought I'm engaged. I never even kissed anyone during my trips. Yeah, I met people, more specifically men. But I knew that they wouldn't be serious about me and so I didn't do anything. I've met many women-travellers. Many of then did amazing things, banging dudes usually wasn't it. Not everyone fucks around while travelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:36 PM
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I've read too many times posts of older men saying disrespectful things about dating younger women. Like we were just a piece of meat. We (me and my friends) get hit by older dudes in bars or pubs. We call them beetroots or peagons, if they wear suits. They are never respectful towards us. They literally act like this one cringy uncle that want to be cool. I wouldn't want to be with someone who brags about being with a younger woman. I also wouldn't want to do all the sex things he learned throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:44 PM
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I would date someone my age, someone three-four years older or younger. My first boyfriend was three years younger than me, my fiance is my age. I wouldn't give a chance to someone 9-10 years older and more. By older I meant dudes after 34-35. And even younger if their aging signs are visible and it's clear that they are in their thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:31 PM
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Which women? How mamy of them? How often? Or is it just a small group of "feminists" that suddenly represents all the women in the field? I have never heard a single one complaining about it. But I live in Poland, maybe it's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:35 PM
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Well, I personally wouldn't give an older man a chance. I don't want an old husband or someone who will try to take advantage of me. None of my friends would date someone much older. But in general chances alway are. Some older women date much younger men, some older dudes date much younger women. Some women marry disabled men and take care of them, some man marry disabled women. This world isn't black and white like red pill likes to paint it. People fall in love with each other for different, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:31 PM
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Exactly. Some of my friends were raised by single mothers. All of tthese mothers worked full time, none of them were paid alimony. Not a single one. But the best thing is that one of the fathers tried to sue his son (my friend) for alimony :D even though he didn't give a shit about him when he was a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:27 PM
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I think it's Poland (assuming from users nickname). And yeah, that would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:01 PM
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Same here. We bought our apartament togehter, I paid literally half of the price. I work full time, he works full time. It's only fair if he cooks and cleans as well. I wouldn't have sex with him if he didn't do that. I wouldn't even talk to him, because him making me his servant and putting all the chores on my head would just piss me off and make me feel resentful towards him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:34 AM
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I work full time and have other hobbies outside my job. So housework, cleaning and cooking are also my fiance's responsibility. He lives there as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:31 AM
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I wouldn't have sex with my man if he didn't do chores. Just like I wouldn't if he didn't work, or didn't care about me or screamed at me. But not because him doing chores turns me on but because I would be pissed at him for not doing them. When I'm pissed or irritated I don't have the mood for sex. It's not only about the chores, it's about keeping a healthy relationship between two people. If I work full time it would be disrespectful to leave all the cooking and cleaning on my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:37 AM
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Sure. For you lack of variety during sex is boring. For me too much variety during sex, or variety at all destroyes the whole experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:23 AM
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That depends on the girl. If I had to change positions couple times during, that would make sex bad for me. I would get distracted, he wouldn't touch myself clit from the same angle the whole time and everytime we would change position it would kill the mood for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:03 AM
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Why? I have the same. Moving during sex makes it impossible for me to focus and I because of that feel no pleasure at all. The only time when I can focus on having my clit stimulated by him and feel pleasure is when I lay and do nothing. Missionary is also the best, other positions are (in my opinion) just for the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:59 AM
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Him doing houswork is just his responsibility, just like mine. It's not a turn on, it's not a turn off either. Him going to work is also neutral, not a turn off and not a turn on. Kissing my neck turns me on, whispering to my ears turns me on. I wouldn't have sex with him if he didn't clean or cook with me, because I work full time, have my hobbies and having to all the chores by myself would make me irritated and pissed all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:52 AM
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Felate meaning give him blowjob? Sure. If I would orgasm easily from penetration but he wouldn't, and that would be a natural state (no porn, no sick kinks) then no problem, that would be a right thing to do formy someone who loves me and pleases me. And you mean that in this hypothetical world roles would be reversed, where women's vaginas would be designed to give us orgasms, but stimulating penises wouldn't give orgasm to men, and they would need something else? Because that would make your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:00 PM
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Okay so you can agree that if it's something you don't like you shouldn't be made to do it. O course. I asked you WHAT IF meaning in this scenario he can't cum from piv. Do you understand? I'm asking you about a hypothetical situation. Then I wouldn't agree on it. But it's not the same as me not orgasming from vaginal penetration. Because that would mean that he, most likely, watched too much porn or has some anal fetish which would be a deal breaker for me. It wouldn't be cause by anatomy. Me n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:45 PM
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If he had to cum from anal would you be okay with that? Assuming you're entitled attitude isn't a fluke I'm guessing no. His penis is stimulated during vaginal penetration and blowjobs, he doesn't need anal to have his penis, organ responsible for plesasure, stimulated. My clitoris isn't stimulated during penetration. It's not the same. But again, no, anal is gross on my opinion, and degrading. I wouldn't do it, he would be free to go if he needed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:27 PM
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Sex is nice because we are close to each other. But psychically IT does nothing to me. He gets pleasure and orgasms from penetration and from blowjobs. I only have real pleasure and orgasms from having my pussy eaten. It's easier for him to enjoy sex. And it's easier to please men. So? I wouldn't be ok with anal. It's degrading and painful. And he would be free to go and find someone else, especially if that would be the only thing that would please him. If a man want to have sex with me, he nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:22 PM
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Hos do you know how much effort I put into pleasing him? And how much pleasure do you think I get from penetration? It's not even at all for me, all of these positions are mostly for him. All of these uncomfortable positions are mostly for him. Just penetrating my vagina isn't taking enough effort to please me. Stimulating my vagina is similar to me stimulating only his balls and neglecting his penis. Him expecting from me to wilingly have sex, knowing that penetration doesn't do much for me and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:12 PM
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Penetration isn't really that pleasurable. I don't need penetrative sex at all, it's the least pleasant thing for me. Eating chocolate gives me more psychical pleasure. Having my clit stimulated is what gives me sexual pleasure. It's basic anatomy. And seriously. Him making me cum with his mouth is unfair? Ok, but having only penetrative sex would be unfair for me either. Because again, penetration stimulates his penis, but doesn't stimulated my clit. I don't get satisfaction from that, he does.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:41 PM
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What? It's never out of the sudden.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:48 PM
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In general, I would never agree on it, with anyone. I'm only interested in long term relationships, maybe If I did one night stands I wouldn't care if they guy has a kid or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:24 PM
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I get more pleasure from touching my back than from penetration. Penetration is mostly nice because we can kiss and stuff. But I want my clit to be taken care of, just as I take care of his penis. I expect him to care about my pleasure as much I care about his. I don't enjoy penetrative sex or being on top so much to do it for myself. He gets his penetration and sometimes blowjobs. Why would I just be ok with slightly pleasurable thing, when he gets his whole pleasure from penetration? How is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:11 AM
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Most women don't enjoy penetration as much as men do. For me it is just ok, nothing to even make me moan. I don't think that my pleasure is more important. It's as much important as his. So his pleasure isn't more important either. So yeah, if my man orgasms during sex with me, I expect to be pleased as well. Why would I have sex only for him? Again, clitoris is the organ resposible for plesasure. Some women are lucky and their clit't tip is closer to the vaginal opening, some have clitoral legs…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:34 AM
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No. I wouldn't invest my time with someone who has a kid. And I would never have a one night stand. I have read too many horror stories about dating men with kids to know that it's a bad idea. And there is no way I'm taking care of his child and be a step mom, spend my money on the kid and take it on vacation, weekend or christmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:21 AM
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Because in women's body clitoris is an organ responsible for plesasure. Not vagina. In men's body, penis os responsible for orgasm. Clit isn't usually stimulated well during penetration. What's so hard to undersand? It's like I would ask, why most men don't orgasm from just having their balls touched?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:11 AM
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In women's body, clitoris is an eqivalent of penis, not vagina. And clit isn't usually stimulated during penetration the way it should, if at all. It's just anatomy. You want your main organ responsible for plesasure to be stimulated during sex. So why are you surprised that women want the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:08 AM
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What if a woman is raped by her husband? Or sister's husband? Or she just delivers mail or pizza? Should women also have a right to tight a guy up and destroy his urethra or rape him anally with a bottle? you know, to teach him a lesson? ​ So many questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:47 PM
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Yeah, I just went to asktrp and try to look for posts about male cheating. They take it pretty lightly, some justify it. Some ask if it's ok to cheat if they want a variety. But rp guys ar the worst and the lowest type of men, so no surprise here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:13 AM
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It's safer for me to not being straight-forward. ​ I was called selfish cunt and chased by a guy when I refused to give him my number. He seemed normal, it was middle of the day in the city center. Nobody gave a shit that I was pretty much running away from a psycho. Other men don't take no for an answer. I'm not looking for anyone, I'm in a relationship. But they still will try to convince me to go with them or flirt with them. Why would I try to not make them feel bad or sad, when they obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:46 AM
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For women side effects are similar. Low libido, possible permanent infertility, weight gain, weaker hair, stroke etc. Doesn't sound like fun either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:27 PM
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I'm not the OP but I will answer. I belive that man, when he finds out that she's pregnant, should be able to refuse to take fathers responsibilities and pay for the kid. Just like women should be able to get an abortion or decide to leave the child and refuse to take care of it and pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:21 PM
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I never had sex outside relationship. And I only agreed on sex after he told me that he loved me. I knee that sex is mucj harder for women even before I lost my virginity (I read different female forums, talked about it a lot) so it never made sens to me to do it casually. And no one I know really does that, male or female. None of my friends have casual sex. Most of us are in long term relationships/married. The ones who are single don't fuck around. But there are women who like ONS and that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:32 PM
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Well, I actually said at the beginnig that I'm not having sex before I'm sure that he loves me and I love him. I was alsowas clear about that and yeah, some men would run away, some were pushing thinking that I will break. ​ But my fiance respected it and waited for me half a year.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/04/20 06:49 PM
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I don't think so. But even if, I prefere to be my own person and decide for myself and sometimes be more stressed, than be subservient. Dominance means that he makes a final choice. And that I have to ask for permission. NoI don't want that. Leaders are more important than the one who are led. I don't want to be less important.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:30 PM
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I'm really happy with not having a leader. My leader would have to let me do the things I want, never tell me if I can do my hobbies or not, If I can go out with my friends, always make final decissions with me and never feel more important than I am to make me be kind of ok with giving him this title. Which wouldn't make him a leader. And I don't belive that women were happier than they used to. First, live was much harder houndrets years ago. Second, all the old women I talked to say that I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:10 PM
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Yeah, but leader make final decisions. So If he was my leader, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE to make final decisions. Why would I want him to control me? What if I don't agree with his judgement? And what if he decides that I shouldn't have this or that hobby because I don't need it? Because accorading to him I should start taking baking classes instead of web design classes? Now he doesn't have this authotiry and I just do what I want. But as a leader he could think that me baking would be better for us t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:55 PM
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My company only "controls" the things I do during work hours. I give them my finished projects, they give me money. Plus, I'm also a freelancer so I can easily work without my boss. If I was subservient to my man, he would get to decide about the most important things in my life, including what I spend my money for, my hobbies, going out with friends, where we live etc. How being submissive to my fiance would be a good deal? I need a partner, not a master. And he is not more important than I am.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:47 PM
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I don't need a boss in my relationship. I don't want to be less important than my man. And I don't want to not being able to make final decisions about my life. I also have responsibilities so I have my fare share in making decisions and leading my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:41 PM
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Then my dominance is unnoticeable. It's better than having a "captain" and making him the "more important person". Sometimes we do things the way he wants, sometimes the way I want. If he was a "leader" I would always have to do things the way he wants and his voice would be always more important. Which is something I would never agree on. He isn't more important than I am, and I'm not more important than he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:33 PM
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Whether women want casual sex or not doesn't change the fact that they can get it or have access to it much easier than men can. So what if we can have it easily if many of us don't want to use this "power"? We can have it easily because many men don't really care about us, our character, interests or anything that makes us a person. They literally only care if we have vagina. Or this is what many men here on reddit say. There is a group of men that claim that they want to fuck around, without c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:10 PM
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Well, I know that kissing my neck and ears arouses me. If there is something beside it that makes me horny, I'm not aware of it. I'm also not sure if I have a type of men that I find attractive. My ex boyfriend looked completely different than my fiance. Every men I found cute had a different type of face, hair style, body etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:07 PM
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That's true for most women. But still, men want to penetrate and vaginal penetration feels better than sucking a penis, even when piv feel like nothing. And even women who need clitoral stimulation (majority of us) often just want to have a dick inside, even for a while. Not to orgasm, men have tongues to make is cum. And anal probably hurts and there is poo, I, and many women, would never try it no matter what. So, in general, piv is still better than other kinds of penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:54 PM
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Why is it stupid? Isn't sex generally far easier for a woman to get? Most of the people on hookup sites are men. All she has to do is have an account and be willing Most women don't want one night stand. If I was sexless I would prefer to stay that way than having sex with a guy who doesn't love me. Pleasing some stranger doesn't interest me, especially when pleasing a woman is much harder and I don't belive that he would do everything to make me orgasm. I can be empathetic for men who can't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:46 PM
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It happens very often, doesn't matter if you like it or not. And it's not only ice cream. It's cooking for the kid, spending time with the kid, making holiday or weekend plans with the kid in mind, spending holidays with the child, sometimes living and taking care ofethe kid, spending her resources on the kid (women work, I don't know a single women who doesn't support herself) etc.You think that when they are married and she works her money aren't spent on the kid? Please. Again, most women wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:04 AM
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Lol, I never did any of this. I never dated anyone with a kid. But I've read to mamy stories about women who had to take care of their men's children, buy them things, take them for holiday, plan all the events with his kids in mind and in general pretend that they loved them. Men with children are a really bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:37 AM
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Of course. Also, no one has to be dominant. In my relationship no one gets a final say, I don't follow my man and he doesn't lead me. I also don't lead him. The idea that the man has to lead my relationship because he is a guy sounds awful to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:52 AM
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I would never date a guy with a a child. I don't want to spend my own money on someone's child (buying ice cream, christmas gifts, food on weekends etc). I don't want to be a step mother and change my plans for some kid. I've read too mamy horror stories about relationships with men with children to think that it could ever be a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:37 PM
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For me the word "nasty" has a bad meaning, that's why I asked. I'm also very romantic and for me sex can't be nasty or degrading or whatever. It doesn't sound romantic at all. But if you both like it than I guess it's fine, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 02:23 PM
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You wrote "An IDEAL woman gives nasty, freaky sex on demand to her man". I would be disgusted if I had to give nasty sex. And I'm very romantic, belive in true love etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 01:57 PM
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But many women don't want to date old men, that's the fact. I would never date someone much older than me, especially in his mid 30s-40s. None of my friends would. We make fun of old dudes who hit on us in bars, we definitely wouldn't date them. Most women prefere guys around their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:58 AM
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You are a very romantic man AND you want her to do disgusting things in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:35 AM
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I could never undersand it. I would never go for an old dude, ten years is definitely too much. I think thay they are trying to feel better. Once I saw a video of some old redpilled dude (in his 40s) saying that men are the most attractive at 45 :D We (me and my friends) call older dudes who hit on us "old beetrots" or "pigeons" if they are wearing suits. Why would we want an old husband or boyfriend? We all have men who are our age or two-three years older/younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 05:22 AM
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At first he was sweet and supportive. He was my first boyfriend and he really seemed loving and sweet. Then I traveled for while by myslef and when I came back, he was a completely different person. - He didn't want me to go to university. - He forced me to give him a blow job. When he finished I started crying really hard and he just said "sorry, ok?". Than he said that he had to do it because I made him hard and I don't know what it feels like. Luckily, I have the best friends I could imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 08:41 PM
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Well, to be clear, I don't think that being good looking is THE MOST important thing. I once was really crazy about a guy who was my height (I'm 1.6 m), with a small belly and curly hair. I couldn't stop thinking about him, even though objectively I knew that he wasn't good looking. But in general I obviously see when a man is handsome, or when he is just subjectively attractive to me. And it's easier for me to be attracted to a man who I find good looking. But I also develope atraction through …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 08:27 PM
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Redpillwomen teaches women to be doormats. And that their wants are less important than their men's wants, and their needs are less important than men's needs. Not the best place for the Op. She needs to gain some self respect, not become even bigger doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:47 PM
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Yeah, but she doesn't know how to act on it. She neglects her needs to please others. RPW would just make her even a bigger doormat for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:05 PM
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Doesn't matter if men like doormats if she feels bad about herself. She needs to know that it's ok to say "no" and thay her needs aren't less important than e.g. her man's needs. She doesn't agree on everything because she wants to. She agrees on everything because she's afraid to say "fuck that, I don't like it".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:45 PM
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Red pill women teaches women to be servants and that men's needs are more important. Bad idea. She needs to know that she's not less important than a man she talks to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 05:41 PM
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It often is, penetrative sex is usually not enough for most of us to cum. That's why my man pleases me in different ways than just penetration. I don't see why would I have sex if only he would be satisfied. He knows that if he ever stops trying to make me orgasm, I will stop trying making him orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:33 AM
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Lol, he wasn't averege, I became crazy about him. I would daydream about him all the time. It just never happened to me, being horny without foreplay. That's what foreplay is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:22 PM
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Well, my ex-boyfriend had no idea how to turn me on when we started having sex. But he learned how to kiss me, how to kiss my neck and at it worked. These men and women would much happier if they actually tried to turn her on. Sometimes it just requires effort. No man can turn me on quickly without knowing exactly what I need. His voice, appereance, posture don't matter. I mean, they do matter in a sense, I see that a guy is attractive. But they will not make me wet, I would still need foreplay …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:43 PM
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Some can't. I have never been turned on by someone's look. Even when I would be in love and couldn't stop thinking about him, I still wouldn't get horny. I do need to be kissed in a right way to feel the need for sex. The idea of being horny just because I find someone handsome is just weird. It doesn't work this way, not for me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:25 PM
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Dude, most women don't want old boyfriends. Just because some old man would enjoy being with me doesn't mean that I woul enjoy it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:40 AM
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I could never undersand bdsm. Why would I want to pretend that my beloved man hates me? I also hate pain, even being in an uncomfortable position when he eats me out makes it impossible for me to enjoy. I would never try it because it just seems scary and painful, and I don't want to be in pain during sex. I once agreed on tighting my hands and it was awful, uncomfortable and I could move to much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:05 PM
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I'm a woman. Sex isn't really important to me. I never had ONS because I knew that it wouldn't give me anything. I sometimes I travel for weeks without my man and during that time I don't think about sex at all. I'm not kinky and I don't feel the need of doing some weird things in bed. For me achieving succes in dating means finding a person that loves me, understands me and would never hurt me. Sex makes maybe 5% of all the things that make me happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:54 PM
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I'm not the OP, but Zack Effron was extremely cute when he was younger. And he has lost it as he aged. So I would say, yeah. But I also like boy-ish looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:45 PM
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I just gave an example. Never said that all of them do it. It is possible that many of them are just bored. Especially when they are looking for men who live far from them. It's obvious that they won't meet them, so it's likely that some girls do it for fun. From what I see, a lot of women don't take tinder too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:42 PM
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That not everyone needs their partner to be hot to have sex, because not for everyone look is the most important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:13 AM
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I would say decent looks. I didn't find my ex boyfriend attractive at all ay first, we were just close friends in high school before I felt in love with him. He was just clean, looked normal, had medicore face.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:07 AM
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And I wouldn't want to have sex with him, I wouldn't be horny JUST because he is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:02 AM
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But looks DON'T turn me on. And are not enough. It's not enough for a relationship. They aren't even the biggest factor (but of course, I wouldn't give ale chance to some fat, mean, entilted dude who wants a girlfriend). If that was the case, I would be with a first guy who asked out, he was extremely hot. But instead I didn't even let him kiss me, even thought I found him really attractive. Yes, I agree that people want to be with someone they find good looking. And they want to be good looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:57 AM
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But the hot one doesn't turn me on by default, that's the point. His looks do nothing for me sexually, it's just not enough to make me horny. I didn't want to have sex with my fiance or my ex boyfriend when I first met them, although I found them good looking and liked them. I wouldn't allow a man who I don't have feelings for and who isn't cute enough for me to kiss me and make me wet. Of course I need to love the guy. But again, my point is that look is not something that turns me on. I could …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:44 AM
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I didn't say that my man doesn't look good. Of course I need to like what I see. Same with him, he wouldn't be with someone he finds ugly. What I said is that looks don't make me horny. I never in my life wanted to have sex with someone I just met, no matter how cute I thought he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:32 AM
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Or are just bored. I know only one woman who uses tinder and she says that she is there for some entertainment. She dates women in real life, tinder is just for some laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:09 AM
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No, I have never been tourned on by someone's look. I could be in love, think about the guy all the time, I would see that he is cute. But his face or body would never make me horny. I need to be kissed and touched in a right way to want sex. My friends have the same. So no, for many women looks aren't enough to get wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:57 AM
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But I don't have sex without love And no, I don't get aroused by someone looks. Literally it never happened. I see that a man looks good and is hot but ot doesn't make me ready for sex. I can daydream about him, have butterflies and still not being aroused. I need to be kissed and touched in the right places. No way I'm allowing a newly met guy to touch me like that. And i'm not interested in pleasing a man who probably won't love me and will not do everything to please me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:45 AM
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Exactly. I waited half a year with my fiance and almost 10 months with my ex boyfriend. If I had sex with every guy I went on couple of dates, I would have a long list of bad experiences. I'm not interested in pleasing someone who most likely wont please me and doesn't love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:20 PM
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I can't know if I love the guy just after view dates. And if he loves me. I waited much longer, because I don't have sex without love and outside serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:34 PM
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I'm 26 and I already find 20 yo men attractive. My friend married her husband when he was 19, she was 23. There are women with much younger men and boyfriends, in normal life and in "celebrity world". My first boyfriend was almost 16 when I was 19. I think that womem prefer men around their age but many of us don't mind a younger guy if he is actually cute. I would prefer 10 years younger than 10 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:27 AM
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Love, laughter, good time, normal human interactions, organizational skills and probably houndret od other things. You know, things that most people do in relationships. He does the same for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:56 PM
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No, I never met a guy that would make me say "wow" from the first sight. I get aroused, but my man has to do certain things for it to happen. I find him handsome but that itself doesn't make me horny. I never felt horny towards any men I liked just because I liked him. Kissing makes me horny. Of course, I need to have feelings for the man as well. No but you feel this way because you're drawn to this guy, no? Yes, but I never got them because of a guy I just met. I can see that someone is good l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 11:01 AM
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Yeah, but I never felt butterflies just from looking at a guy. It takes time for me, hanging out couple of times. In the past I would suddenly realise that I'm having "butterflies" being around a friend I knew for years. And butterflies still don't mean that i'm sexually aroused. I can be crazy about him but if he doesn't kiss me or touch me right, my body won't be ready for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 10:24 AM
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I never felt raw sexual attraction to anyone just based on their looks. I could be in love, have butterflies in my stomach, I would think about the guy all the time but I wasn't horny. I need to be kissed, touched in a specific way to feel the need for sex. So just a woman doesn't want sex from the first sight it doesn't mean, that she isn't attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 05:19 AM
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No, my boss can't refuse my time off. First, he doesn't have a right to do so, second I will leave and he will be fucked. He doesn't do me a favour for hireing me. He pays me because I give him high quality projects. He can't tell me how should I spend my money. Hej can't tell me if my hobbies are resonable or not. He doesn't have final decision in important things in my life. Yes, my man probably wouldn't use his rights at all. But I don't want him to have this right over me. I said it many tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:18 PM
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My boss can't tell me what to spend my money on and can't forbid me anything. I give him projects, he gives me salary. If I quit he is fucked, because I'm the only on on this position and I take my clients with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:23 PM
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You say that it's better of men makes decisions for their women. And even If a woman tells you that some of us don't want that, you try to change my mind and tell what would be better for me. But like I said, good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:55 PM
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Sure. And you keep pretending that women are children without ambitions, and can only be happy when someone tells them what to do. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:42 PM
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But it doesn't matter that maybe it wouldn't be so bad, that's the point. I want to decide, not to just follow. No matter how many examples you give me, it will not change anything. I'm not giving up my freedom for bein protected like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:03 PM
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You try to come up with new reasons for a man to have a final say and be a boss in a relationship. I responded to that. You painting it differently doesn't change anything. How am I suppoused to not repeat myslef? I don't want this kind of relationship because of the reason I wrote. They are unchangable and apply to everything in a relationship. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 05:19 PM
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I hate being teased. It makes me feel bad. And I have enough challenges with my worklife, I also have a challenging hobby. I don't need to be challenged at home, it's the last thing I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 03:20 PM
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That's true. I would never date and old man. None of my friends would.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 03:07 PM
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I brought half amount of money needed to buy our apartement. I bring resources, support and company. I agreed on one child so one day, maybe, I will give birth to it as well. I never had a one night stand, I he also didn't fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:14 PM
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I've asked you to stop using development as a synonym for work Dude, I'm not using developement as a synonim for work. Never did that. Developement is gathering different skills, taking time to master them, veru often spending money. But yes, I woant to be succesfull and recognised. And not only by my man and family. I want to be seen as a specialist, authority in what I do. If he would be the one making money of course his developement would be more important than mine. And him succeeding would…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:11 AM
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I want to work, I like my job. And I don't want him to decide what I can do wity money. Or I don't want him to decide if my hobby is resonable or not. Said it many times. I don't know why you felt the need since I pointed out through various methods that you wouldn't need to compromise on those things. So I could do the things I love, he would give me money and he wouldn't get do decide for me? And his developement wouldn't bore important than mine? Cool. But it's not how it works. More were hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:40 AM
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Why is it important for me to not have a lower status than my man in my relationship? Because I don't want to be less than. I want to work, I like my job. And I don't want him to decide what I can do wity money. Or I don't want him to decide if my hobby is resonable or not. Said it many times. What criteria are you using to describe who is important? Who gets to decide, who has final say. Being a leader doesn't mean getting your way all the time. But it means that you can decide for others. It g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:21 AM
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Theiy aren't better leaders. I look at politicians in my country, mostly men. They are shitty leaders. Same with historical leaders, who fucked up really badly while killing milions of people. And not having an official leader is not a problem. It is. It isn't. We don't have it and it works just fine. Could work better, happiness surveys indicate as much. No, because he could too often decide that we do things the way he wants. Just like in my holiday example. That wouldn't make me happy. Someti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 02:07 AM
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Such as? I'm bot going to repeat myself. Do you think it's a coincidence men are leaders in the world more often than women? I belive that men are leaders more often because of the way our society worked for houndrets of years. It's changing luckily. I don't think that men are better leaders. Why would I call him as someone more important than I am? Because it's easier than constantly trying to compete for who is the leader and who isn't. And yes there's always a leader. There's always in any re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:53 AM
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I also have advantages over him. He can't lead me if he wants to be with me. Or if hr wants to have sex with me. Jesus. I don't want to be led in my own relationship by any man, I don't want to feel like he is more important, Even if he's actually not? Even if he's not. Why would I call him as someone more important than I am? There's always a captain No, there isn't. None of us has a final say. He can't decide for me, he can forbid me to do things or make me quit the job. Just like I can't do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:36 AM
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It has nothing to do with him bein a captain. He doesn' t lead me. I'm asking you what harm there would be in allowing him that title if you knew he had your best interests in mind. Because that would make him more important than I am. Captain is more important than first mate. I don't want this dynamic. And I don't want him to lead. Why? Because I don't. I don't want to be led, that would give him other rights over me. Even if he wouldn't use them, it would be there. Women didn't want these thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 01:16 AM
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How many women could be actual musicians before refolution and changes in society? Or how many women could freely choose their life path? How easy it was for women, compared to men, to go to univeristy and study what they wanted? We're going back to this? It's an advantage he has but wouldn't use because he loved you, just like his strength advantage. He doesn't have this advatage, not more than I do. What don't you understand? I also can say "fuck you" to him. Divorce was legal it was just look…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:52 AM
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Why is it with men in charge every woman got a husband and a family and didn't have to work or fight in wars if they aren't generous? Also they can't follow their dreams if they dream about something more than being a wife and a mother. Women also get raped during wars and kidnapped. And also had to fight during WWII. They fought togehter with men in Warsaw uprising. Or they were left alone if their husbands died but could only work in the lowest jobs possible. With equal rights 30% of neem have…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:10 AM
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I can't say "fuck you, I'm doing it anyway", but he can't say it either if he wants to be with me. He also has to ask me. My man can't dominate me if he wants to be with me. And no, men aren't generous. I don't live in the US but it's hard to belive that. Not from the stories I heard. But it doesn't matter, I wouldn't be happy having to submit anyway. So I won't. Luckily, my friends have the same approach. Their men also have to take care of their kids, also have to let them chill out and can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 11:52 PM
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Because he's already dominant of you in at least one area but that doesn't bother you because he doesn't take advantage of you due to that. And I dominate in other areas. So? Should I become his captain then? What surveys? How many women did they ask? And from what societal classes? Because most women in the past worked in shitty jobs (like servants) and still had to be submissive. I don't belive that they were happier than we are now. Many women back then couldn't get treatment they needed even…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 11:26 PM
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If he would dominate me psychically that would be abuse. And I would just report him and start everything over. I repeat myself because you still ask these questions even though I answered many times why I don't want to be submissive. Yes, I don't like the idea. Why would I? He is not my captain, he doesn't get a final say. I don't follow him. He has to walk next to me through our life, not in front of me. How would feeling like he is more important than me make me feel better? Doesn't make sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 11:05 PM
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No. At this moment we do communicate just fine. And he asks me about things, as I ask him. The difference is that he doesn't have a power over me. He doesn't have a final say, he isn't my captain. He has to step down sometimes just like I have to step down. And not because he doesn't care, sometimes he just has to suck i up and do what I say, even though he doesn't agree with me. Just like I sometimes do what he says. His developement or his career isn't more important than mine. I'm not submiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:39 PM
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Cute means that he is sweet to me. No, He wouldn't become a bad person. But I don't see why would I give him such a power over me. I don't want to be submissive. Why would I? Why would I give him power to decide if my hobbie is resonable? What's in it for me? There is a difference between doing good things because I want to and doing things because I'm a submissive wife and I have to listen to him. Again, he is not more important than I am. I don't want to ask for permission. I'm not a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:18 PM
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Because he is kind, loving and cute. He is a good person. I don't think that he would murder me. Not in this society. Most people wouldn't murder anyone if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:08 PM
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No, I'm not afraid that he will murder me. If I was, I wouldn't be with him. Yeah, I trust me that he will not kill me. But I don't see why would I give him such a power over me, a power of making decisions for me. I know where you are going and no, it doesn't make an argument. IF I was submissive, maybe he would sometimes step down and let me do things I wanna do. But maybe he wouldn't. Maybe sometimes he would have a wrong idea about tje things I want to do. Or maybe sometimes he would decide,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 09:58 PM
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Yah, I 80% of the time work outsite my office. But I don't stay at home, I like to work in cafee's or special spaces dedicated to this kind of work. I don't like being at home all day. I still make my own money, I still can decide how I spend it. And my man's opinion isn't more important, he doesn't get the vinal say just because he is a man. How is me working in or outside the office important? And I will start to take more freelance projects. And you could do that in a folder style marriage Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:06 PM
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I Poland half of all doctors are women. And the number increases. I just checked because I knew that what you're saying can't be true everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:33 PM
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If I get fired, I still have my freelancing. And I will start to take more freelance projects. Or I will look for another job. Easy. I woudl even take a lame job for a while. But nI wouldn't stop trying. This things aren't forbidden. But they take time, money and effort. I don't see husbands paying for such things for their unemployed wifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:12 PM
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Why is it so hard for you to undesrtand, that a woman doesn't want to be submissive? That she deson't want her man to decide about everything and have a final say in everything? And from what I see, in traditional relationships men's hobbies and developement are more important because he makes money. So I also want to make money, so I get the same "right" to grow as much as my man and to spend them on my developement instead of only supporting my fiance's career. No, being a good wife is not eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:07 PM
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I actually can, and I worked since high school to be able to. I'm good at my work. I can leave my company any time I want and work somwhere else. Are you controlled by your employer? Is your employer your master? You really don't see the difference? When you work you make your own money. If you are lucky as I am, you can do things you enjoy for a living. When you make your own monet you get to decide how to spend them. My employer can't say no if I want to spend my money on another guitar, langu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 08:05 AM
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But studying, taking part in abroad design projects, spending long hours on doing things you love is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:49 AM
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Yeah. But making your own money gives you the right to manage them. I'm more Independent now, when I earn my money than I would be if I had to ask my man If I could go out and spend his money with my friends, or get advance Estonian course. I just take it if I decide that it's a good idea. And i'm equally important in my relationship, he doesn't get a final say. Because I'm not submissive and I don't have to look up to him all the time. His developement isn't more important than mine. His voice …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:57 PM
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Are you going to go to war? Are you going to pay for everything so he doesn't work a day in his life? See? That's why I want to work and do much more than stay at home. So I'm not treated like a child and no one can forbid me to do the things I want. One example? I provided several why would I focus on that one? You aren't focusing only on music. Which even then was much harder for women. But you never comented on my example. Yet somehow there were famous female musicians? Some of them managed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 09:07 PM
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I agree. I wouldn't date a man who went to a prostitute. Or who would use a dead drunk woman. Not dating people because of their past is resonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:13 PM
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Men loved their wives. They didn't have any reason to say no to your hobbies unless they were entirely unreasonable. And why would he decide if it's unsrisonable? Could I decide that his hobbys are stupid and told him to stop engaging in them? In 1920? How far back do I have to go to prove that's bullshit? 1920 were times where women started gaining rights in some places in the world. But still they didn't have the same chances as men. Some were actresses, most had to stay at home and serve thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 08:11 PM
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I did respond for almost all this points, but ok, will do it again "I support him and I expect him to support mu dreams." That's how it was. It wasn't like that. A man could work for his success. Could become a lawyer, could study, could do many things. Women didn't have that. They couldn't even go to Universities in many cases. False, I already proved that wrong when I showed you there were famous musicians, there were famous actresses and artists. And that happend around the times when women r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:32 PM
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I responed pretty much on every point you made. Nothing you wrote proves me wrong. Why didn't tou say anything about women mot being able to study? Going back to traditional society would mean less chances for women in life. Would make me subservient. Would mean that I wouldn't be as free to have my hobbies and develope my skills (not talking about cooking and baking) as men would be. Nothing you wrote made me change my mind and belive, that being less important than my husband and having to ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:56 PM
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Men and women are different. So? I still want to be succesful and be proud of what I achieved. I want to have an opportunity to do so. Rich women had less opportunities than Rich men. Middle class women could do less with their lifes than middle class men. Again, Maria Skłodowska-Curie couldn't study in her own country because she was a woman. Only men were allowed. What's does my man risk now? And you think that women weren't killed and raped during wars? What about second world war? Warsaw upr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:38 PM
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No they didn't have the exact same opportunities, why should they? Men and women are different with different abilities. Because we are people with aspirations and dreams. I don't want to be subservient to my man. I support him and I expect him to support mu dreams. Women having less opportunities means that we wouldn't be able to do too much, we would just have to stay at home and hope, that this time our husband will agree on something I want. My voice would matter less than his. I would have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:32 PM
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That was the time when thing started to change, same with sexual revolution. And women still were expected to be houswives and put their husbands first, and be submissive. You really want to tell me that women had the same opportunities as men? That they weren't expected to be subservient and listen to their husbands? Of course they did. Even women's sexual needs weren't taken seriously. Maria Skłodowska-Curie couldn't study in Poland, under Russian occupation, because she was a woman. She had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:33 PM
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The same way men could? No. Women could be musicians for an entertainment of their families and friends. They wouldn't be supported by their husbands in pursuing their dreams, instead of being just mothers and wifes. And playing a guitar was just an example. I don't create art or develope websites only to show them to my fiance. I want to be succesful with it. Being able to have a tea with my friends from time to time is not enough. I want to go out without asking my man for permission. I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:08 PM
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Or dreamed of buying my own guitar and playing with my band in the evening, which requires money. Or buying my own graphic tablet and creating thing, which requires time and money. I don't want to be subservient and have to ask for permission to go out in the evening to play with my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:23 PM
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I would also have to listen to my husband, do what he says, ask for permission and hope that he won't cheat on me or leave me. He would have a chance to be his own person, I wouldn't. I hope it will never come back because that would be a nightmare. Now I can do what I want, have my own money, aspirations and hobby. My fiance needs aren't more important than mine. I can fulfill my own goals instead of just supporiting my fiance's dreams. Today he has to support my dreams as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:52 PM
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Now? No, I belive that most of them don't. Society put a a lot of effort in changing that. Back then? Of course. Not all men but a lot of husbands did it. And not for no reason, they would always find a reason. House was not clean enough, dinner was too early (my grandmother was beaten for it), for talking too long with her friends, for having "stupid" friends etc. And again, it's not only my grandmothers experience. All of her friends had to watch their tounges or they would be punished. Some o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:46 AM
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Women are less violent. And women's violence is usually verbal, while men are abusive verbally and psychically. I don't know why abused men don't talk about it but they definitely should. Just like I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:32 AM
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What's nonsense? That a lot of women were abused at some point? It's true, I was abused myself. What brought me here, on PPD? Curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:23 AM
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When you are told from the young age that wife has to listen to her husband, that him beating you is your fault abd that divorce is a sin, you don't see it that way. They didn't see it as a option. In modern times it's different, women are encouraged to leave abusive husbands. But back then husband who beats his wife was not a big deal. And most of them had nowhere to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 07:20 AM
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I don't know about US, but in Poland getting divorced was worse the killing someone. I asked my grandmother why she or her friends never divorced their husbands and she said, that she would be destroyed by her family for it. Divorce equalled societal ostracism, beating your wife not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:43 AM
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Every woman I've ever talked to claimed to have an abusive boyfriend in the past. Every single one. Not surprised, a lot of men are abusive. I had to escape a date because the guy started to be abusive and tried to force me to blow him. I have two friends who were raped, one to the point we feared for her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:39 AM
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Maybe women were protected, but not from their fathers and husbands. I live in Poland. Beating a wife used to be a normal thing to do in 50s, 60s and before. My grandmother was abused on daily basis, just like her friends. Theiy couldn't complain because theiy would be told that it was probably their fault anyway and maybe they should try more. Poland was a comunistic state back then. So you couldn't change your job when you wanted to, you were given a position by the authorities. If you didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:33 AM
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If he wasn't nice I wouldn't be with him because why would I be with a man I'm not attracted to? What's wrong with my approach? If he wasn't nice to me I wouldn't be with him, because why would I be with someone who makes me feel bad and doesn't support me? He needs to be both. Men also want attractive partners, slim partners. Men are even more shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:35 PM
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Same with men. But it's a good thing that there are no women for manospherians. It means that there is a smaller number of girls that would agree on being their pushovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:01 PM
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Sure, one of the reasons I'm with him is because he is hot. But he wouldn't be mine if he was just hot. He is also a great guy who cares about me, loves me, is a good person and supports me. Hotness is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:00 PM
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I'm not a dream women for mansopherians, nor are my friends. I don't know where did they take this idea from. I'm not traditional, I have my own hobbies, I work and I don't want to be a submissive wife that does everything a man says. I just never had casual sex, that's it. But not because I wanted to be seen as this pure, subservient virgin, but because it wouldn't benefit me at all. And I never wanted to please some strange men, why would I? My friends have similar approach, having sex with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:54 PM
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Poland.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 01:32 PM
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Exactly. It's like they get information from the same source and then they all repeat the same thing over and over again, just because some guy on the internet told them to. "Nice guys" aren't hated because they are nice people. They are hated because they expect that women will fuck them for not being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:30 PM
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I don't know. How am I suppoused to know if a man didn't fuck a bunch of prostitutes before he met me? How am I suppoused to know if he never used a dead-drunk girl before?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:00 AM
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A lot of women have sex in relationships with their boyfriends. Even in college (I assume that in the US you are around 19 when you go to college). There are women who have ons (and that's ok) but but this number is much smaller than the number of men who want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 10:36 AM
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Haha. Again, no. I wouldn't. I dumped a guy who was cute as fuck and I was crazy about him because he tried to make me to give him a blow job. When he was nice it was ok, the second he started to be pushy I run away. I don't talk to people who are mean to me. I feel bad around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:59 AM
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No, I wouldn't. My man has to be in love me. I don't see anything you say in reality. I wouldn't choose tall asshole, but I also wouldn't be with an unatractive guy just because he's nice. I actually have to be in love to form a relationship and to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:30 AM
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Men for me have to be nice. I don't like rude people, so I don't talk to them and ignore them. Why would I date a man who acts like he doesn't love me and puts me down?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:26 AM
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Really? All women? I never had sex with a mam who didn't love me, no one night stands. Same with my friends. Most of us are in normal relationships, the ones who aren't don't have sex at all. They think ons are gross. Yeah, my man had to be nice to me to get me. But not "fake nice", he actually had to be a good person. Plus, he is much more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 06:22 AM
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No, in Wrocław.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:02 PM
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Not being married is not a problem. Idris Elba was lucky, most men can't do i (and Idris Elba isn't hot). Look at Miranda Kerr, late 30s, divorced with 29yo billionaire husband. And no, most women don't want old boyfriends. I don't know a single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:05 PM
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I just know whay I see. Life is much more than reddit. Most women don't date old men. That's the reality. Don't knoe a single woman who wants it. I refered to mgtow because you mentioned them. And I just don't undersand why won't theiy go their own way if they want to so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:14 PM
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I live in Poland where we took this pandemic seriously and a lot of places is closed. I don't see any of the things you mentioned. Most of my friends (women) provide for themselves and they are doing just fine. Only one can't work because of the pandemic but she has a lot of savings, so it's not really a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:19 PM
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I'm looking ay my brother's friends, they are in their thirties. Even the ones that used to be cute have lost it. None of them is hot anymore. Men in their 40s aren't a catch at all. Most women don't want an old boyfriend. My man won't be as cute as he is now when he hits 40, it's not what happens in the world. Maybe he will be hit by women, but these women will be in their thirties and forties. MGTOW will not use me and hopefully won't use other women, as we spread the awarenes about them. I ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:06 PM
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Most men don't look better with age. Again, look and celebrities. Tuomas Holopainen, DiCaprio, Bloom, Bradd Pitt, Johnny Deep. They all look worse or much worse than they used to. And your trainer's wife probably looks at other men as well. I also would like my man to stay 26 forever, but he won't. I probably will look from time to time at other men in 10-20 years from now. But that will be just it, staring, as I'm not a cheater. Most women don't choose and don't chase old men. It's not what hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 02:54 PM
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Then you are an execption. There are women in great situation as well, after 35, but we can agree than in general people don't look as good as they used to. Again, most men look much worse when they get older. Even if they look good for their age, they definitely looked better when they were young unless they were obese and didn't take care of themselves at all. And most women don't want old men. I would never even consider dating an older dude, same with my friends. Like I said, we make fun of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 02:23 PM
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Many claim women are verbally abusive, men are physically abusive. Just world fallacy, in my experience. This distinction is really stupid. Man who is physically abusive is also verbally abusive. No way a guys who abuses his family talks nice and lovingly to them. He will threaten his wife, humiliate her etc. Unfortunately, I know this from my mother's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:57 AM
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I'm engaged. I never apoproached anyone and never will. So you are telling me that women in their 20s are soo crazy about you? I don't think so. If they are then you must be an exception. Because none of the women I know would be happy dating an old dude. Btw. I know many men who have problems with women, even two 27 and 30 yo virgins. But I don't know any women that have problems with men. And I'm talking about getting a relationship, not one night stands. Last year a chick from my work got mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:13 AM
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I know. Once I saw a youtube channel of somereally old red pill dude, who said that men are most atractive at 45. I sometimes wonder if they actually belive that or is it just something they say to feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:09 AM
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Yeah, I don't think so, maybe you are an expections because it's definitely what happens here. None of my friends is interested in old men. As I said, we make fun of them, not chase them. And we don't make fun of them because they are old but because they approach us. Young women in general don't want old dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:00 AM
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Yeah, no you (men) really are not, unless you were obese and had acne before. Or you are an exception. No way 45 old men looks better than his 20s-early 30s self, sorry. I've never been atracted to an old men, same with my friends. We call old guys who approach us in bars "old beetriots" or "pigeons" if they wear suits. Again, look and famous men. Even they, in most cases, have lost it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:59 AM
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There is nothing to be jealous about. What I'm saying is that men in general don't look better as they age. I'm just responding to your first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 08:47 AM
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Almost no one wants to be an old parent, and most women don't want old dudes as fathers of their children. Doesn't matter If can have kids at 45 or not, I wouldn't even if it was possible. And being a 70 yo dad of a newborn sounds creepy and irresponsible, not something to be proud of, not to mention a low quality of sperm. And again, I refered to your comment about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:45 AM
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You mentioned just appereance. You said that > If you really want to see the effects of the wall, look at women's photos in their 20s vs their 40s. OP, you are too young to do this with your female friends. And I'm saying that it's the same with men. And it doesn't matter that he can still have kids, he would be a really old father. And most of these women have kids or are pregnant anyway. But I don't think that having kids is a success. I myself agreed on only one and we will start trying when …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:28 AM
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Because he has money and can buy them, not because he is hot. And his a minority. Plus, famous older women are also doing great, and even date younger guys ( I don't think that dating anyone is a success, but I know that many men belive so, that's why I pointed it out).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:14 AM
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This case is even worse than DiCaprio. But only because Johnny used to be much cuter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:25 AM
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Same with men. Look and celebrities. Orlando Bloom, Zack Effron, Leonardo DiCaprio, James McAvoy, they all looked much better when they were young. When you compare their photos from then and now, you can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:49 AM
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For me both are equally bad. If a man cheats on me it means end of our relationship, no matter if we are married or not. My friend was cheated on when she was pregnant. She dumped him and it's obviously his fault that their relationship is over. And everyone supported her decision, it was obvious that you don't stay with a cheater. He will cheat again. But I don't think that woman cheating is any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 02:26 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:10 PM
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Dude, my value is much more than ability to be fucked by some men. I can increase my value and I do it daily by working hard, pursuing my dreams and doing everything I can to be mu best self.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:03 PM
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I have a friend who was invisible to men until she hit 28. But then she got quite succesful with her hobby, became much cooler, hit the gym and haidresses, moved out and she suddenly started to be attractive to men, including a guy from our group who never showed interest in her before that. Should she be pissed at them for that? Or act as it's unfair that they didn't care about her for most of her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 07:45 PM
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Leonardo is objectively unatractive. When I saw his pictures from when he was young I was surprised that he used to be so cute. Now he just has his money. No, most women don't want old dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:55 PM
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Ok. So just because swallowing makes me sick and my stomach hurts it doesn't mean that I'm not crazy about my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:27 AM
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Just because I don't desire to be hurt for his pleasure, or to gag and not being able to breathe for his pleasure doesn't mean that I don't want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:16 AM
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No. I love my man, love to please him (and he loves to please me). But I'm not going to agree on being uncomfortable or in pain during sex just to proof something. I'm not going to gag and chocke just because I adore him. I do love deep kisses and being intimate, I can perform regular, sweet blowjobs, and it doesn't make me feel sick or bad. Cum makes my stomach sick, it's texture makes it even harder. I can show him how much I want him without feeling bad. Again, I'm attracted to my man and I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:08 AM
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Yeah, buy theiy don't abuse or hurt each other. I mean, healthy couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:30 PM
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Pain during sex isn't necessary. Especially when I would have to be in pain while there wouldn't be anything that would be painful for him snd pleasurable for me. I don't penetrate him anally and I don't put large objects into his throat. I can give him pleasure without being abused. If he would abuse me outside the bed, I would dumb him. Why would sex make hurting me suddenly ok? I'm in a relationship to be loved, not hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:26 PM
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I don't like pain so why would I agree on being in pain during sex? I wouldn't agree on being hurt by my man on daily basis, so why would sex be any different? I don't hurt him, so it's only fair if he doesn't hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:03 PM
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I don't get why would I want to put my man in pain for my pleasure? Same, I don't want to be treated badly for his pleasure. Sex isn't a challenge, it should be pleasurable. Sure, I can do things that I don't enjoy, like blowjob (not deepthroat) oly for his satisfaction. It's obviously only for his pleasure but it also isn't abusive to me. But being hurt for his orgasm? Or hurting him for my orgasm? No way. You agree on being hit, fine, you do you. I would never agree on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 01:46 PM
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What wcould it be? I don't know what my man could do to me sexually that would be equally painful or uncomfortable for him as deepthroat or anal. There just isn't anything like this. And the thought of uncoming pain would kill the mood and would make me resent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 12:12 PM
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Maybe, as I only know bdsm from what I've heard and read about it. But I will never try it so that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:15 AM
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You too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:12 AM
1

Yeah, I have no interested in bdsm, I would never agree on it. I can have satisfying sex life without being treated like less than a person (even if it's just pretending). Sorry, I don't belive that there is not pain in bdsm. And I don't see how tighting me up or slapping me, or not going down on me could bring me pleasure. Bbdm isn't another stage of sex that everyone should engage in. It's for a small amount of people, not for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:08 AM
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At any point your man could cause serious harm to you. Don't you forget that...you don't have to pretend to hate your man? What are you even eluding to? You lost me there. Yeah, that's called abuse and should be reported. I feel save during sex with my man. Save and loved My man doesn't degrade me of hurt me during sex, instrad he works on my plesure, as I work on his. Deep throating equals gaging and not being able to breathe. How could he do it to me and then start to bring me to orgasm? Chock…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:04 AM
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Sure, naked woman is vurnelable. So? What does it have to do with me not waitning to be abused? Yeas, I'm vurnelable and that's why I want my man to respect it and to please me, as I please him. I don't want to be there only for his pleasure, without getting what I need and being kissed in the right places.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:59 AM
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No, I don't want to be in danger during sex. And I don't have to pretend that I hate my man to make sex good. You can have sex without being treated like trash. I need to be taken care of and kissed in the right places, not being jackhammered and abused. By pain I also meant things like deepthroats, anal etc. There is nothing equally uncomfortable that I could do to my man to be pleased.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:52 AM
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Lol, variety is good but I'm not going to let him abuse me or put me in pain so he doesn't get bored. I don't hurt him, I don't put him in pain, so he can't hurt me. Sex isn't only for men. Not being able to chocke me or hurt me isn't a reason for cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:36 AM
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Doesn't matter what they want but how they act. If my man doesn't fight his promiscous instincts and fuck another woman, he will destroy our family. So it's a disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:26 AM
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Promiscuous men are winners. Of course not. Promiscuous husband is a disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:17 AM
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Yeah, no. Doesn't matter if it requires game or some other bullshit. Many men will fuck any girl they see, even if she isn't really their type. The ones who really wnat ONS will sleep with anyone. Quite pathetic to be honest. And in general I can't think highly of men (and women) who belive that having many partners is some kind of achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 10:01 AM
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That's fair, I also judge men who brag about being promiscous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 09:44 AM
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The only compatible partner in the long run is a partner who is willing to do things they don’t want to do sexually. And why shouldn’t we? Because many ot these acts are painful or degrading for women. I can do things for my man that I don't necessary enjoy as long they don't make me suffer. So I can do blowjobs, but ho deepthroat. I'm not going to gag and chocke so he can orgasm, that would kill sex for me. No anal as well. So sure, compromise but within reason. There is nothing what a man coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 06:27 AM
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I think turystyka don't. It's not something I see outside reddit or movies. Sure, there are womem who enjoy casual sex But they number is much smaller then thr number of men who want it. Don't get me wrong, I think that women should have as much sex as they want. I'm hust saying that i'm general, they have sex in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 06:05 AM
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It's not just compiting. It's also learning, bring challenged, going to Finland for graphic design intership, working go fulfill het dreams. I wouldn't be happy if I had to be closed at home, without having an option to make decisions for myself and bot being able to do things that I enjoy, not only listening go my husband and supporiting his goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:20 PM
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That's why I never had one night stand, because the guy wouldn't be able to plesase me, and wouldn't even probably care. I don't see why would I please him, if I wouldn't get my orgasm. And I don't think that there would be enough time to teach him anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:51 PM
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They kind of were. Rich women had less opportunities than rich men. Middle class women had less opportunities than middle class men. Sex was for men, female plesasure wasn't even taken seriously. If husband wanted to rape his wife anally or whatever, he could. And she couldn't do anything about it. She had to listen and do what he says. Not a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:26 PM
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Yeah, except that he gets a chance to make decisions and be succesful and I don't. He can get what he wants, I have to do what he wants. It doesn't sound good at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:37 PM
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Still no. I want to be my own person. Have my own goals, dreams, aspirations. I don't want to live my husbands life and being only part of his journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:04 PM
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No. I mean, monogamous? Sure. But traditional in any other way, without having a possibility to study, be their own person and fulfil their goals? No way, that would kill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:00 PM
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I didn't assume this lol. Egalitarian meaning men and women are equal enough to where women are willing to initiate contact, pay at least half for outings, and just an overall fair approach to dating. That would be the opposite of the American issue, as progressive as Americans seem, relationships are in a weird place. Sorry, I've been mistaken couple of times for a socialist when I didn't agree with redpill views. My mistake. I don't think that the dating world is the way many people here portr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:42 PM
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I don't live in egalitarian utopia, and please don't assume that i'm a socialist. I'm not. By "different world" I meant all these weird situations that mostly never happen but are discusted here as if they were normal. I'm here for entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:07 PM
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I know, I feel like I'm in a completely different world when I read this sub. But I'm not american.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:50 PM
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Exactly. Honestly, most people that I know are like that. Both men and women. The ones who try to fuck around aren't treated seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:00 PM
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Then they try to shame men for not allowing them to have their cake and eat it too when they tell them they’d rather marry a woman in her prime. So what if they want younger women? I don't wanted an old man and most women in their twenties think the same. Very often we meet for a drink in a pub or a club to talk and have fun, and older dudes try to approach us. We call them "old beetrots". I don't know a single couple with young women and much older dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:43 PM
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I think that he did but I don't remember correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:11 AM
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Well, we started calling each other girlfriend/boyfriend after some time of dating and hanging out. We took care of each other, felt that we are in love and after a while he told me that he loved me. That's how I knew. Words and actions. I definitely wouldn't have this connection and feelings after just couple of dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:30 PM
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Same here. I never had casual sex because I'm not interested in pleasing some man who doesn't love me. Why would I? And i'm pretty sure that he wouldn't care enough to take his time and give me my orgasm. Someone who just met me can't be in love with me, and being just interested is not enough. I only have sex in a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:09 PM
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So let's assume you meet a guy off a dating app, you think he's decent looking, you're attracted to him. But you will hold off with sex? For how long and under what circumstances do you have it? I'm not the OP but I will answer. That's right, under any circumstances. I only have sex with men who love me and are in a relationship with me. I did have to breake up with guys who wanted sex too quickly, but I don't regret it. So the majority of women would never consider casual sex under any circumst…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 11:02 PM
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It's true. I never had a one night stand, my friends also never had sex outside a long term relationship. Most women just don't do it. I always knew that having ons would only benefit the guy, not me. I knew that I should never have sex with someone who doesn't love me. Why would I? What's in it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:55 PM
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I'm not saying that's most women marry early. I have friends who are married, but also friends who have regular boyfriends or are single. Most women marry in their late twenties/early thirties and it's a good thing. We are now developing our careers, finishing education, and yes, most of us are also in relationships. But single women in majority don't fuck different guy every night to suddenly marry some poor looser. They actually have a life outside sex and, once again, most women don't do one …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 04:14 PM
2

You are mistaking me with someone. I'm not religious at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:57 PM
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Most of my friends are in long term relationships with regularnie guys. None of them had a one night stand. I don't know a single women who had sex with 10 different attractive guys and then got together with someone she doesn't love or respect. People have normal lives, get together after two-three different relationships, that's it. I met mu fiance when we were both 19, started dating when I was 20. My best friend married her husband when he was 21 and she was 23. The number of women who actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:33 PM
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Yes, it is what happens. Look around, the world isn't some redpill fairy tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 03:13 PM
2

I feel like ppd is a completely different world. Men created this weird scenario that they strongly belive in and act like this is what actually happens in reality, which obviously isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 06:29 AM
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Casual sex requires the guy to be an 8. Relationship requires a guy to be a 6. Something tells me that being in a relationship isn’t advantageous for men but that’s a different discussion. Most women don't do one night stands at all. The only way a man can have sex with me is through a comitted relationship. None of my female friends ever did that. I rejected some men just because they wanted to have sex quickly, and I have sex only with some who loves me. So maybe relationships aren't fun for g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 06:20 PM
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Then don't, I also don't care about welfare. I'm mostly against it. Did you read my post? Or just the first sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:30 PM
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I won't feel bad because a group of men is sexless. Most women don't have casual sex. None of my close female friends had a one night stand. I only had sex in long term relationships, like most people do. I refused sex to many guys but not because they vere below averege (they weren't and they were my type, otherwise I wouldn't date them) but because they weren't in a relationship with me and wanted to get sex after a date or two. So no surprise they didn't get laid. So if men want to fuck many …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:23 PM
1

You too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:25 PM
1

I know that It makes you feel better when you tell yourself that women want to stop you, but we really don't. Women are disgusted by the way mgtow talks about us, not that you don't want to be with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:57 PM
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I know that It makes you feel better when you tell yourself that women want to stop you, but we really don't. Women are disgusted by the way mgtow talks about us, not that you don't want to be with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:57 PM
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Mgtow is hated because of the way they talk about women, which is disgusting. I certanly don't want mgtow guys to come back and be a part of the society. I just wish they would actually go their own way instead of dehuminizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:21 PM
2

You are delusional. None of these things are my dreams. But if it makes you feel better in this scary world than sure, feel free to belive that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 01:46 PM
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That's one of the reasons I can't take redpill seriously. They created this one type of woman in their minds, women who have no personalities, don't have dreams, goals, ambitions. And then say shit like girls aren't real people. Honestly, it's a good think that a lot of them can't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:17 AM
1

I'd rather watch what men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 01:15 PM
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I wouldn't have problem with porn if it wasn't a way to normalise fucked up sex acts. Suddenly men expect women to agree on pain and abuse because it makes them orgasm. My ex boyfriend, really vanilla guy, wanted me to deepthroat him and was sure thay I would love it. Some of my friends constantly complain that their partners are trying some weird or painful stuff. Why wouldn't women be angry, if porn makes abusing and hurting womem ok? Yeah, I'm not going to try deepthroat or anal, or let him b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:40 AM
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No. I'm not letting him hurt me so he can orgasm. I don't hurt him, he can't hurt me. His sexual satisfaction isn't worth my pain, or me being hurt. When he pleases me, he never has to be in pain, gag and fight his bodie's natural reactions. So why would I? That's not the question. The question is: Would he let you do that It is an important issue. Why would I let anyone hurt mer? Sex doesn't make ot suddenly ok. Him fingering me or kissing me is not the same as me gagging or chocking on his pen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:34 AM
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I could never commit to a man that would put me in pain oraz make me gag for his orgasm. There is nothing he has to do to make me orgasm that would be painful or uncomfortable for him and pleasant for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:17 AM
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Sure, within reason. I can please him but I'm not going to letting him hurt me, or put me in pain. When he pleases me, he never has to be in pain, gag and fight his bodie's natural reactions. So why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:15 AM
2

Yeah, because every women does that! What would I give blowjob to a stranger? What's in it fot me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 05:13 AM
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Why do you always talk about fucking Chads? Most women don't have one night stands. I made my ex boyfriend and my fiance wait waay longer than three months. And I never had a casual sex. Waiting with sex makes sense. Fucking someone who doesn't care about me wouldn't bring me orgasm, as he wouldn't care enough to please me. It helps to get rid of men who want to just have fun and use us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 06:34 PM
7

How can it be interpretated this way? After a week of dating, maybe. But when we already know each other and have been dating for a while? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 04:22 PM
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There is nothing weak in saying " love you". My fiance said it first and I never considered him weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:51 PM
6

Not true, not true, not true, not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:47 PM
3

No, just because I don't consider someone better than me it doesn't mean that I think that he is beneath me. I also don't consider my friends or siblings as superior. And it doesn't mean that I think that they are worse than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:24 PM
1

Not true. My fiance told me that he loved me a month after we started dating. And we still love each other like crazy. I wouldn't have sex with him before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:18 PM
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That's not true. I wouldn't say it first no matter what, to be sure that he won't abuse my feelings. And saying "I love you" first wouldn't make me worse person than he is, that's ridiciolous. But honestly, I don't think that any man is better than I am. I couldn't be able to have a relationship with someone that makes me feel worse than he is. That would be awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:16 PM
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Women. Me like to use women and abuse their feelings to get sex. If he sees that she cares too much, he can use it. It's safer to wait until he says it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:13 PM
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Men, by restricting women's opportunities, created situation in which it was much easier for them to have sex. So women had less opportunities AND they had to fuck men they didn't find attractive. Feminine hygiene has always been gross btw, just in case you want to throw the tuna out at me. Feminine hygene products are not something we should be thankful to men for. That was my point. I don't care if you find it gross or not, doesn't matter. And women don't restrict men's freedom by not giving t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 08:01 PM
2

I don't think that there is someone for everybody. Some people are just hard to stand, both men and women. Life isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:41 PM
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Women have been using sanitary products since forever. First pads were created by women, they literaly sewed them themselves. History of feminine hygene is much longer than couple years of plastic pads. Women also created other things that helped them "breake free", like dishwasher. Although life used to be much harder for everyone, women did have less opportunities than men. Rich women had less opportunities than rich men, middle class women had less opportunities then middle class men etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:27 PM
1

Men look worse as they age. No way a men can look better in his thirties or fourties than in his twenties (unless he was obese and had acne before). Look at famous musicians or actors. All of them look worse in their thirties than they used to (Orlando Bloom, Johny Deep, James McAvoy, Tuomas Holopainen, Chester Bennington). I also never met an older guy whos face, hair etc didn't look worse than it used to. It's just life, lifting won't help. I see when the guy is older and him caring about his …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 12:23 PM
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The way I see it is that a lot of rp dudes are in their twenties and can't really attract a pretty woman. So they like to belive that once they turn 35-40 they will have bunch of girls in their twenties knowing to their door, which is obviously not true. I'm in my twenties and guys that are 34-40 are just too old for me. They do look older, they seem older, they behave differently. And I definitely wouldn't want to give them a chance. Why would I if I have a young, handsome man next to me. None …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 11:24 AM
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Men screaming at me at night in the city center. Another guy walking behind me after I refused to have coffee with him. He followed me until I jumped into w random buss. Another dude saying, while trying to hand me a beer, that I will walk out with him anyway from a pub, he will just wait a little more. I don't care if it is "nothing" to you, for me it was scary as hell. Especially when nobody reacted. Plus, I wrote before that I didn't ask them to be approached. I never did one night stands and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:40 AM
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Sorry, I'm not going to risk my safety for them. "No, thank you" very often doesn't work. Men still try to be funny, flirty and ask stupid questions like "why not? Don't be like that". I didn't ask them to approach me. Me just walking down the street, minding my own buisness or having fun with my friends is not an invitation. I feel awkward enough when they do it and I have experienced some scary situations when I said no. Some even won't let go when I say that I'm in a relationship. They don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:23 PM
3

Like a normal person I think. I don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:04 PM
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Some guys don't take no for an answer. Or they can be very rude or frightening when they get rejected. They don't even care when I tell them that I'm in a relationship, especially when i'm in a pub with my friends. I started ghosting every guy that approaches me on the street, because it's safer this way. Once I refused to give my number and the guy started screaming at me, calling me stupid whore etc. And he seemed normal, regular young man. So now I just give them my number and then block them…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 07:22 PM
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It didn't matter. I knew what I was doing and I didn't want someone who would be ok with hurting me during sex. So why would I worry that my "candidate pool" was smaller, if these were the men that would put me in pain or make me gag? It's a good think that I rejected them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 10:11 AM
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Deepthroat is one of the worst things I could do. I'm not going to gag or chocke during sex, wtf. Or fight my bodie's natural reactions. And I'm not going to let him treat me like he doesn't care about me. Having to do that would kill the mood for me and I would not want to have more sex that night. So my line is drawn there, and it can't be moved. No matter how much I want sex or how fun (doubt it) can it be. Edit: downvotes? For what? :D wanting to breathe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 05:22 AM
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she isn’t interested in having wild sex with you, she just isn’t that attracted. But that's not true. If by "wild sex" men undersand doing every sex act from porn, then I will never give it no matter what. I would never try anal or deepthroat, I don't want to be tighten up. Not because I'm not attracted but because I don't want to be treated like that, I don't care if it is exciting or preasurable (doubt it).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:46 AM
2

I had sex with my fiance half a year after we started dating. We would hang out at my or his place, watch movies and do all the regular dating stuff, beside sex. He knew that I have to be sure that he loves me before we can have sex, I wasn't interested in giving it to someone who doesn't care about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 10:42 PM
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I knew that there are men who hate women, who disrespect us and see us as a mobile vaginas. But it's always shocking and quite disgusting when I hear them saying it. Like with racism. I know that there are racists in the world. But everytime I read something racist and disgusting, I'm shocked that someone actually thinks like that. I just can't be like "cool, whatever" and pretend that it doesn't bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:43 PM
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The thing is that many women don't want to have more than one child. So waiting till thirties is not a bad idea. ​ I know that my most fertile days are right now and If I wanted a big family, I should start getting pregnant, especially since I'm already engaded. But I don't want to. I agreed on only one kid and only one pregnancy, and we will start trying in our thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 08:41 PM
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Yeah, but there is nothing men can do to make sure that more men get casual sex then. Because most women just don't agree on ONS in general. Like I said, I always ghosted guys who wanted to have sex with me quickly or tried to get laid at the party. And there is a lot of women like me. There is less women wanting casual sex then men. And if for these men sex in a long term relationship is a bad deal than, well, boomer. But I don't think that hating women for not giving them casual sex is fair or…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:08 PM
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But why wouldn't they struggle? It's not like all women want casual sex, many don't. So men who want to hook up compete with other guys for a pretty small number of women. I never agreed on ONS when I was hit on in the bar, none of mu friends did. Not because I wasn't attracted, but because I don't want sex without relationship. So of course it will be even harder for guys. But there is nothing they can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 10:09 AM
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Do you ask men on reddit what they do for their partners when they write about the kind of sex they get from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:11 PM
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Of course, that's one of the worst things a man can do. Instant breakeup (or divorce)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:05 PM
1

Things that my man likes (within reason, no pain, degrading or hurting me). Do you somehow think that If he cares about my pleasure, he doesn't get his?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:02 PM
1

I do get the first part fulfilled though by my man (not the part with two guys). It's a fantasy but with really loving partner, you can have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 05:34 PM
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Ugh, but I, and many women, don't want an old husband. And why would has this awesome experience, while I would be stucked at home knowing that I will never be able to do all of the things he did. Besides, studying and working for a career, basically growing up, doesn't only means staying late hours in the office. It means abroad interships, interesting projects, gathering experience, staying late at night and in Lapland listening to this amazing folk band. Being a mother early wouldn't allow me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 11:01 AM
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I don't know, definitely not the rule. ​ When I talk to my female friends they complain that their husbands (or boyfriends in soem cases) are the ones who ask for anal sex or try deepthroat, or what to tight them up. One of them almost divorced her husband over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 10:10 PM
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Personally, any dude that tries to choke or slap me during sex (something I would never ask for) is getting a knee to the balls. That’s assault to me, and to the law. This. I have no idea how could I orgasm from it. He would hurt me and then suddenly eat me out with passion? Doesn't make sense at all and sound kind of sick. I have this weird impression that a lot of men here belive that pasionate sex means pretending to hate your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:24 PM
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I never tried it and would never agree on it. For me it sounds just scary. But honestly, I found out that people chocke each other on reddit. Before that It wouldn't even cross my mind and none of my friends would think about it. And we talk about sex, masturbation etc. openly. But also I'm not from US, maybe it's just your think. I like passion and I like to feel sexy. Being in pain or hurt by my man would not make me feel like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:18 PM
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This is my fantasy, it's suppused to make me feel good. Go create your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:03 PM
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Not hard enough, you should have mentioned abortion as well. Without it my fantasy isn't complete. Seriously, wtf. Btw, eating ass is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:59 PM
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Lol. There is no penetration. One just kisses me and whispers to my ears, another one eats me out for example. This is my fantasy, it's about my pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:52 PM
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I like nice, loving men. My sexual fantasies usually were about a man kissing my neck while fingering me and whispering to me how much he loves me, and how beautiful I am. Or two men crazy about me, focusing on eating me out and kissing me, not wanting anything in return. But I don't consider being nice and loving as beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:16 PM
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Well, that's why I never agreed on one night stand. I didn't see the point of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:53 PM
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True. For some reason men belive that women act like the were sooo thirsty, enthusiastic and dreamed about nothing but penises just because. But many times it's just a show, to make a scene or create a special atmosphere. I don't see anything submissive in blowjobs but I aslo never agree on deepthroats or using my head as if it was vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:40 AM
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Yeah, but it's not that fun. I have sex with my mam so he can please me (and I can please him). I don't want to masturbate during being penetrated, why would I? And when men do it they can't keep up with it or do it the wrong way. He get's of thanks to me, so I expect him to return the favour. He just knows that he will take care of me after or before Intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:27 AM
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I do normal blowjobs from time to time but I never agreed on deepthroat and never will. My female friends do it from time to time but also hate it when their men try to go deep or hold their hair. One almost divorced over it because her husband tried to do it all the time. I'm not disgusted by blowjobs themselves, but having sperm in my mouth makes me gag. It's like with saliva, I don't mind it during kissing but If my man spat into my mouth I would throw up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:42 AM
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Yeah, penises are like pencils, the more you use them the smaller they become :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:17 AM
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Dude, admit it. You just have no idea about female anatomy. Wears it out? How do you think labia minora is built? You really think that our"lips" can stretch from penetration? Haha :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:15 AM
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I also read rpw from time to time. And only there I have read women saying the things I wrote in my previous post. Basically forget about yourself, only improve when it comes to your body so he can gry horny. Oh, and shut up, so he doesn't feel intimitaded with your opinion. But he can be critical towards you because he is a captain. Have sex even when you don't feel like it and don't be mad if he choses again holiday destination of his desire, not yours. Oh, and he has a final say so suck it up…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:06 AM
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I'm engaged and even thought I don't need fds I support it. That's why I'm there, it's great to see women who grow and support each other. And, what's more important, who stop being doormats but expect to be pleased in and outside bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:39 AM
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FDS has other sister subs dedication to self imptovement. RPW promotes being a doormat. Not a good strategy. I read there that women should please her man sexually the way he wants, learn how to deepthroat and be open to anal. But at the same time shouldn't complain when she doesn't orgasm because "they have their whole lives together". Same with deciding what to eat, his preferences go first, he goes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:59 AM
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There are women who orgasm from having their nipples sucked. But it's not a majority. We all know that although rare, orgasms are acheivable by both men and women without physical stimulation Sure, I even wrote about it in different posts. But it's not the norm. What I mean is that women don't expect men to orgasm without having their penis stimulated. Women don't way that if a man can't orgasm from just looking at her or from ball sucking, he isn't into her. Buty men seem to be surprised that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 04:52 AM
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I have to come yet by ball sucking Just like most women have yet to come by penetration alone, without having their clits stimulated. Same thing. Yoy didn't undersand me. Clit is en eqivalent of penis and is responsible for our plesure. Yoy don't expect men to orgasm without having their penis stimulated. It's the same with us. Most women need to have their clits touched to orgasm. Can be during penetration, cen by by pussy eating. But MOST women need it. Some of us can orgasm from nipple suckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 04:43 AM
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Some men can come from balls stimulation alone, when a pretty girl touches it and they are excited. But you wouldn't say that men in general don't need penis stimulation to orgasm. Clitoris is an eqivalent of penis in women's body. It has much more nerve endings and its designed to make us orgasm. Why would I have to work for orgasm from penetration, when I can have it quickly and easily from clit stimulation? I don't expect my man to orgasm from something else than touching and stimulating his …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 09:57 PM
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For me it doesn't matter for my pleasure because I don't really care about penetration, it does nothing to me (never really enjoyed it, even during masturbation). I have clit for orgasms and I expect him to take care of it, which he does. That being said, I wouldn't want my man to have a small penis. It's just mental thing I suppouse.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/20 06:47 PM
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The thing is, that penetration can be nice, just like having balls stimulated can be nice to men. But we have clits for orgasms, they are equivalents of penis in women's body. You don't expect men to cum just from touching their balls, so why would you expect women to orgasm from penetration alone? Why is clit stimulation a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 06:39 PM
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Clitoris is like head of a penis. Men usually nead to have their penises touched to orgasm. It's the same with women, we in general need to have our clits touched. Expecting us to orgasm from vaginal stimulation alone is like expecting men to orgasm from having their balls touched. Some of them maybe will if they are really excited. But in general it's not the case. It's similar with women. Why would I try to orgasm from penetration alone if I have a clit that makes it possible and much easier? …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 06:29 PM
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But most women need clitoral stimulation to orgasm. For majority of us vaginal stimulation isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 03:47 PM
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But most women can't do it because of their anatomy. It's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 03:35 PM
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Men's fault. They are the ones who want loud, moaning partners. And call the ones who are quiet boring or starfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:54 PM
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So that's why I moan, for the show. Not from pleasure because I feel the best when I'm quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:50 PM
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So imagine your partner is silent and doesn't make a sound. Wouldn't you call her a starfish?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 01:43 PM
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I don't and only one friend of mine has a dildo. And she doesn't use it because she says it's like having harder penis inside, that's it. My man bough me vibrator once but I didn't really want it and eventually we threw it away
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 11:13 AM
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Yeah, because men don't say "just a second, i'm about to finish". Or won't expect a blow job if a girl isn't able to finish Intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 10:43 AM
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Sex can be hot without abuse and pain. I'm not into bdsm shit. Of course we do things like kissing, talking dirty (without degradation, yes, it's possible), changing places and please each other. You don't have to pretend that you hate another person and degrade your partner to have hot sex. And the point is that it's easier to orgasm and feel pleasure for men than it is for women. That's why my man puts effort in pleasing me as well, doesn't expect me to cum during penetration or giving head.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:18 AM
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The way you talk about sex just reeks of some boring ass lay. I bet you call it “making love” too. Your man will cheat on you. I guarantee it. Oh no, my man cares about my pleasure and can't put me in pain during sex! What a horror. I guess I should let him hurt me, so he doesn't get bored/s And honestly, what you write is just a proof that many men don't care about women's orgasm. Oh, and yeah, I do call it love making. What a horrible thing yo do, making love to my fiance! I better hit him or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 09:07 AM
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Men who enjoy fucking with women want to give them a good experience. Sex isn't only for men, so I don't know why would I agree on being in pain during it. Especially when there is nothing similar that a man could do for me. And all these things you mentioned bring orgasms to men, but not to women. Just because I don't like to be in pain or throat fucked doesn't mean that I don't enjoy sex with my man. The difference is that he cares about my pleasure. You think that chocking or gagging would ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:55 AM
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No, we are talking about whether sex is better for women or for men. Men, when he puts work during penetration, can still orgasm. We have much less options to actually orgasm. I can't lay there and just squeak once in a while if I don't want to be called starfish. And do you think that men can stimulate clit properly while penetrating? Of course not. Mamy women need to be touched or eaten out to orgasm. But penetration is the most important part of sex. And want it or not, men usually orgasm fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:54 AM
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Most women are expected to be active and enthusiastic during penetration, many men expect us to orgasm from it. Men don't focus on our clit. Imagine if women neglected penises and started to focus on your balls instead. We can't be a starfish, even thought sometimes laying still and quiet is the best for us and helps us to focus on our pleasure. We can't focus on our pleasure because apparently it's too much job for men to work for our orgasms. We have to perform all these uncomfortable sex posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:53 AM
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We are talking about orgasms. If my man was hard and I couldn't make him cum and he wouldn't seem impressed with what I do? Yeah, I would consider that it is my fault. Maybe I do something wrong? Too fast or too slow? If I was only touching his balls and neglecting head of his penis, you would say that his lack of orgasm and pleasure was on me, wouldn't you? So that's the same with men focusing ob vaginas and neglecting proper clit stimulation. Penetration (main part of sex) doesn't work for man…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:00 AM
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Remember, that it's hard for a man to penetrate and to stimulate clit. I never let my man to do that because he can't do it the way I need it while penetrating me. It works only when he focuses on just touching me. So orgasm outside penetration? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:43 AM
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It is that hard. It's anatomical. Expecting women to orgasm just from penetration is like expecting men to orgasm just from touching their balls. Maybe some will, but in general it won't work. Clitoris is an eqivalent of a penis, not vagina. Clit is the organ that's brings us pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:36 AM
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I had a male friend once. I remember when he lost his virginity he bragged how his girlfriend orgasmed soo many times. I was like "oh, dear...". Poor girl probably faked to be over with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:33 AM
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Well, I stopped trying to orgasm from penetration because there is no point. Most women can't do it, it's our anatomy. He just has to please me with other methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:28 AM
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If I have sex you are damn right that my man has to care for my orgasm and if he didn't it would be his fault. Wouldn't you say that you not orgasming would be woman's fault, if she didn't touch your penis or agree on penetration and cared only for her pleasure? Getting pleasure is much easier for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:26 AM
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Dude, of course they do. I was asking for more during my first time, even thought I was in pain, didn't enjoy it at all and wanted to go to sleep. I didn't want to look bad or something. Losing virginity is stresful, we want to do well so many of us fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:58 PM
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No men will make me orgasm from penetration alone. I, like most women, need more than that. It's anatomical. And penetration is they most important part of sex, so I would have to take it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:49 PM
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I'm not crazy, I'm pretty averege when it comes to sex. This is just the way it is. Read any forum for women, most of them have problems about not orgasming and faking it. Especially since men expect us to get crazy during penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:46 PM
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Also this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:41 PM
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I can tell from my perspective. I need 20-30 minutes to orgasm. When I have sex I need to stimulate my clit, and I feel incomplete when I suddenly have to stop when he finishes to clean himself up, it distracts me. And its not that we don't like it. It's just often "meh" or "all right". It isn't something really preasurable for many women, because of our anatomy. We doesn't feel as good for us as it id for you. And remember that many men neglect clit. At the beginning it's maybe fun, but in gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:40 PM
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I did. It's not that hard. At the beginning of my sex life I faked a lot of shaking, moaning and not being able to stand up. So he could feel like a champ. Btw, vaginal contrations are also easy to fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:32 PM
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Penetration is the most important part of sex. Imagine having sex every two days and never orgasming. Sounds like fun? It's the reality for many women. Especially when the guy is a fun of "quickies".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:27 PM
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Most men can't read clues. It's awkward to stop during sex, so some of us just lay there and wait till the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:24 PM
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Jumping on a dick and not getting any orgasm out of it is not fun at all. For many women penetration feels like nothing, because we have clits to give is plesasure, not vaginas. But unfortunately, penetration is the main part of sex, which means that sex for the most part is about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:23 PM
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Sex is definitely better for men. Men almost always orgasm, women don't. Especially during penetration it's impossible for many of us to cum. Most women need their clits to be properly touched. And penetration is the main part of sex. It's hard for men to stimulate clitoris and penetrate properly, so we have to do it ourselves. And masturbating during sex is not fun for me. Penetration itself isn't orgasmic experience, is not something that works for most women. Women experience much more pleasu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:18 PM
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I truly think that redpilled guys really want to belive these things but I don't think that the reality is the way they portray it. Things like women will be happy with being abused by some "alpha", oraz that if a woman can't orgasm it's because you aren't some sadistic psycho or alpha enough etc. are complete bullshits. I do belive thought that women like to be attracted to their partners and that they care about appereance as much as man do. Everyone who saw a 13 yo room full of posters with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:14 PM
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Sorry to be blunt, but I will consider your points more seriously once you ARE married and STAY married for atleast 2 decades. Yeah, something might go wrong. And? What if I was a submissive wife, SAHM, and he would cheat on me? Or wanted to degrade me in bed one day? And I wouldn't be able to runaway without job. My point is, that it things can always go wrong. Life is risky, no matter what you decide. And I don't want to have many children, I agreed on just one. Even as SAHM I wouldn't agree o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:30 PM
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I'm engaged, I have already found my future husband. But I also work for myself, so I can be my own person while being married, without having to be a submissive wife. I probably won't have more than one child, and that's ok. Maybe we can't have it all, but we can have most of it. If having less children is the price I have to pay, than i'm more than ok with it. At this moment I don't feel like being a mother at all. Most of my friends have husbands or boyfriends. And they also have their passio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 12:44 PM
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Is it really a thing? That women give anal to strangers and not to their husbands? I don't think that it's something common. Although I know that redpill likes to go mad about made up situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 11:20 AM
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But how about you set aside a few years of your life for family first and you go focus on your career to your hearts content later? Is that really too much to ask? Choosing a career path does not just mean choosing staying in the office for eight hours a day. It's gathering knowledge and experience, participaiting in different projects. How could I start my career later in life and leave for couple of months to Finland to voulunteer in graphic design project as a mother of, let's say, three chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 11:15 AM
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Yes, I'm aware of the risk and I've decided to take it. I never wanted a big family, I would be fine with just living with my man. But he wants a child, so we decided to try after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:10 AM
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Career gives me opitions. And the ability to fulfill my dreams, pay for my hobbies etc. I'm much happier now that I work than I was in high school. I literally can do whatever I want. Having children without career would mean that I could no longer focus on my developement and my dreams. So it's better to take a risk and work for a carrer and maybe have a one child in my thirties if it's possible, than to have couple of kids no but not being Independent. I love my man but I don't want to be a su…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:00 AM
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Then you are not the kind if man that is worth sacrificing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:41 AM
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Giving sexual satisfaction to my beloved man doesn't mean that I have to degrade myself or agree with n being hurt for his pleasure. Not every kink had to be explored, especially if it's painful for the receiving person. I can sacrifice and do blowjobs (no deepthroat). But I won't put myself in pain for sexual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 09:28 AM
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. If it hurts to the point that my erection suffers, then it's a logistical concern but the pain is still itself incidental. Being in pain kills the mood for me. Right after deepthroat I would be done, wouldn't want to do anything else as chocking would kill the mood for me. So it would be the end of the sex for the particular time. Plus, I can't Imagine that my man, who is suppoused to love me, would hug me and kiss me right after he made me chocke. The idea sounds awful. It would do more harm …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:57 PM
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since pain is fucking unavoidable anyway and a property of being alive and all, it does not register to me as a full-stop reason to abstrain from something. For me pain is a good reason. I don't have sex when I had too much of it and I feel dry. I don't have sex when my man doesn't feel like it or is tired. You are fine with anxiety, it's your problem. I don't undersand why do you agree on this, if it puts you in pain or hurts you. I wouldn't. I don't think that my pleasure is worth his pain. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:32 PM
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He doesn't do things for me that would be hurtful for him as well. So why would I? Give me a reason. I please him in a way that doesn't degrade or hurt me. He pleases me the way that doesn't degrade or hurt him. His desire for anal or deepthroat isn't worth my pain. How could it be? If we play some power games, then we aren't aware of it. We don't have this stupid captain/first mate arrangement. also you went right back to calling mutually agreed upon behavior to which two parties consent "abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:21 PM
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well like, billions of homo sapiens find that having only one reason for/sensation during sex to be boring I suppose. If having nice, pleasurable sex is boring, than i'm ok with it. I prefer boring sex than painful and abusive Intercourse. I don't it poisonous or spicy food just not have another, tasty and normal meal. I also don't agree on being abused by him, or degraded or cheated on. If that means that I hold the power, then I'm fine with it. I don't hit him, so he has power over me as well.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 11:10 PM
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Pain is necessary in a good workout. Its a side effect of efficient training. It's not necessary during sex. I have sex for plesasure and intimacy, not some power bullshit or politics. I don't fight for power with my man in bed. I don't agree on anal because it might be painful for me and only pleasurable for him. That's the only reason I need. I don't put him in pain during sex, he can't put me in pain. Why would I have sex if it was painful? Seriously, give me one good reason that would benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:51 PM
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What are you talking about? Don't pretendent that someone is hiding the truth or whatever bullshit. I never had ons because I don't see why would I. Just because there are some women who have casual sex doesn't change it. I don't know why they do it, maybe they see it diferently. I'm not them and just because some girls have ONS doesn't change the fact, that other don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 10:06 AM
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But I don't care why some women have them. Other women's decisions are not something I'm responsible for. And most women don't have ONS anyway. Or very rarely. I don't see any sens in ons, as I don't see why would I have sex if not for my pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 09:37 AM
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Why would I have a one night stand if not for plesasure? Why would I satisfy Some strange man, it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 05:17 AM
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Lol, no I'm not. One night stand wouldn't give me orgasm, only the guy would cum. So what's the point? Why would I have sex if only some strange man would be satisfied? I knew that sex isn't as pleasurable for women as it id for men even before I lost my virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:43 PM
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I guess I partly agree. I never had a one night stand because I knew that it wouldn't benefit me at all. And I wasn't interested in pleasing some strange men, because why would I? But I also think that hooking up with "chads" also wouldn't benefit me, so I don't see the point of one night stands at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:26 PM
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Not necessarily. I promised to myself that I will never do "slutty" things like anal or being in pain during sex, before I even lost my virginity. No amount od alpha could change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:27 AM
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Dude, there is a difference between being in pain during exercises and being in pain because my man caused it so he can orgasm. Puting me in pain for his pleasure is not justified, no matter how you paint it. Hurting your beloved women for your sexual pleasure = bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:22 AM
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Of course. Maybe it's just me but I would probably feel obligated to e.g do blowjobs for him just because he supports me. Making money gives a final say in many occasions. I don't want to ask if I can go to a concert or buy a guitar just because I don't have my own money. I think it's safer for me to work and to bring money together with my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 11:14 PM
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Good for you. But I've heard too many times here and from other more traditional men, that a woman shouldn't refuse sex when her man wants it. And that they would basically do things that they want to her. Or that a woman should be "a slut in bed". And still, I think it's a bad idea to depend on a man. What if he doesn't want me to do my hobbies? Or won't agree on going to places that I prefer? Now we both work, so we both decide how we spend they money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 10:50 PM
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I would never agree on being a SAHM. Everytime I read men's posts about how they want a sahm, I can't help but think that it's only beneficial for the husband/boyfriend. He get's a woman who has to listen to him and she has to hope that he will take her opinion or desires into consideration. Let's take sex. I feel that as a wife without a job, I would have to agree on every sexual act he wants, anal or deepthroat, even thought I would hate those things. He would provide for me, so I would have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:31 PM
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What? How else do you call someone you have a crash on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:35 PM
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From time to time, but definitely not everytime we have sex. And it's the way I want it, nothing degrading. I don't let him to go down on me as well, so it's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:34 PM
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Sorry, I wanted to reply to duffmanhb, my mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:52 PM
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And you know it because...? I traveled a lot. I have met many women who were lonely travellers along the way. I would spend months in Vietnam or in Finland living and travelling with other girls. Maybe one one them found a sweetheart and would text him after she left. There are probably women (and men) who travel the world and fuck everyone. But it's not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:25 PM
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Well, I slept with only two men, both in long term relationships, so my n-count is low. And I definitely will never try things like anal, BDSM, deepthroat etc. I knew that I don't want to experiment like that before I even lost my virginity. I don't want to be treated like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:26 PM
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Do you fuck strangers when you travel? I love travelling and I almost always travel alone, even thought I'm in a relationship. I have never even kissed anyone during my trips. Not even when I was single. I'm against one night stands, don't see why travelling would change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 02:10 PM
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It works for me. I don't see my my man should have power over me. And why would I be owned by him? He should plesse me sexually, just like I should please him. I don't want to be used, owned and have sex only for his plesasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 11:33 AM
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Maybe you are an exeption, it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:17 PM
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Yeah, "life it's suffering". So? It doesn't make sexual abuse ok. No matter how you paint it, being hurt by my man will never be ok. There is nothing that would justify abusing someone sexually, even occasionally. My man's orgasm isn't worth my pain. Being in hurt by beloved man is not the same as waking up early for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:16 PM
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Sure. That's how it usually works. Most women prefer men around their age, or slightly older/younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:06 AM
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I guess you haven’t seen all the young women in their 20’s on reddit who are disgusted by 40+ year old men hitting on them. I'm one of those women. I find the idea of kissing men after 40 disgusting. All of my friends do. Whenever someone older hits on one of us we call him an old beetroot (in polish it sounds better). It's funny, because men here are pretty angry when they hear that some young woman is disgusted by the idea if being with someone 40+.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:56 AM
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Yeah, because the wall is something I only see on the Internet. I'm reality there is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:50 AM
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Would you be ok with your woman just laying there and not doing a move? Or would you prefere her to be active? It's all about compromise. I would have to lay and never do a move during him touching me if I wanted to enjoy sex everytime. That probably wouldn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:30 PM
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I don't really think so. I mean, there are women who might orgasm from penetration, but most don't. And many of us will not feel pleasure during it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:13 PM
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Sure, during for play a guy can please his woman with his tounge or fingers. I was actually talking about "the main course" which is penetration and usually is the longest part. Men still can enjoy it, many women have to be active but still feel no pleasure at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:07 PM
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Many women don't feel pleasure during penetration at all. It doesn't do anything for me. But it's still a large part of sex so eferytime I know, that I will be penetrated without actually feeling anything nice. I even can't find my g-spot, don't think I have any. Women complain about lack of pleasure from penetration all the time. Men look up the secrets and suddenly belive, that they can make a woman crazy with thei penis when it's usually not possible for many, many women. Men just need to put…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 03:04 PM
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Men are responsible for women orgasming as well, though. Agreed. If my man wouldn't care and actively work for my pleasure, I would never enjoy it. But I still belive that men have it easier when it comes to feeling pleasure during sex. Especially during penetration. And women these days have to put up a show to not be called starfish or boring in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:51 PM
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Ok. But do you feel pleasure when you move your hips during penetration? I don't. I can't even focus when my clit is touched when I'm moving. I have the best time when I just lay there still. My point was that's moaning or shaking aren't necessary reaction for plesasure. Many of us do it for men. And to not be called starfish. And men have it easier when it comes to orgasm or plesasure from penetration. So yeah, I think that sex is better for them, not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 02:00 PM
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Oh no, fellas. Belive what porn tells you. That for sure is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:46 AM
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When things happening to me I also can't move if I want to focus on my pleasure. If I move or are "super active" I don't feel good, It's just for my man. I don't feel the need to moan, shake or scream when I feel good. So when I actually moan, it's just for him, it's a show.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 09:45 AM
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To be fair, many of us moan, shake and scream to put up a show. If I want to feel something pleasant, even during fingering, I need to be quiet and I can't move because moving distracts me. Same when I touch myslef. If I want to enjoy it, I just move my finger , the rest of the body is stilland I don't make any noises. So pretty much I need to be this hated "starfish" to orgasm. ​ I think that, in general, men enjoy sex more because they actually can focus on their pleasure. And even if they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 10:20 PM
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No, you just don't listen. You belive that women should be occasionally be abused by their men because of some ridicolous reasons. Of course you don't understand what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:36 PM
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My man is the only person who should care about me and my welbeing. Him causing me pain and hurting me would be a sign that it's time to end the relationship. Or to apply for divorce, if we were married. I don't see it, nobody is dominating. And even if, it doesn't matter since it because I don't feel dominated and I don't dominate my fiance. My man doesn't hurt me during sex and I don't hurt him. Hurting me would be abuse. I also deserve pleasure from sex. And even if there was domination, why …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:26 PM
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No, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:45 PM
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I have a full time job, challenging hobby,, I'm stimulated all the time. Why would I want a man who makes my life more difficult? It doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 12:55 PM
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I would think that there is something wrong with him. And I would think that's he is abusive or sick I he wanted to degrade me. I don't care if it's a sexual fantasy or kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:20 AM
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Oh, honey. You just showed your ignorance and projections. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:28 PM
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I'm right, you are wrong. You are a man, so it makes you even less aware of what we actually enjoy. Women's body, especially clitoris, literally need to be taken care of if we want to orgasm. It's true for most women. We want passionate, wild sex. Not pain and abuse. Men's orgasm is not enough for us to be satisfied, penetration also is not enough. Deal with it. Again, you are wrong and you know that. And apparently watched too much porn or spend too much time reading red pill. Men want to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:25 PM
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No, I just wanted to show you how ridicolous your statement is. Because, once again, women in general don't want to be abused and in pain. Just like men, in general, aren't rapists. We actually need to be taken care of to orgasm, being jackhammered or having to perform deepthorats, or being in pain will not make many women cum. Women who enjoy that are expections.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:16 PM
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Dude, you are the one who said that most women want to be in pain and want to be abused by their men. Me saying that men are rapists is another side of the same coin. Most men aren't rapists and most women don't want to be hurt. You've been accosted by campus pornsick. That's my diagnosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:08 PM
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Some women maybe are perverse. Some men are rapists. Many of us like hot, passionate sex. But hot and passionate sex doesn't equal abuse and pain. Most women wan't to feel pleasure, not pain. But meny men can't please a single woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:57 PM
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Yeah. But I'm not wrong, honey. Many men want to abuse women sexually and they just project their desires on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:53 PM
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No, they are not. Most of porn was directed by man. Most rapes, sexual crimes is commited by men. Men usually are the ones who want to try anal, deep throat etc. Men talk about "destroying a pussy" or admit that they like when a woman cries during sex. Men are the ones who call women "prudes" if they want to be vanilla. I's a generalization, but you get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:50 PM
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Dude, I'm a woman. Don't tell me what I like. And no, many women don't like it as well. I don't like to be chocked and abused. It would never give me an orgasm, my clit needs other stimulations. Grow up, life isn't a porn movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:45 PM
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Doesn't matter if some women like porn sex. Many women don't because it's usually abusive. These acts can be painful for the woman, only pleasurable for the man (anal, deep throat, tighting up etc). So for those women who don't want to be hurt, it's ok to not agree on these acts. Yeah, I don;t watch porn. But I've seen some, out of curiosity and to make a point. Just first three-four movies from the main page were already scary and violent. Nothing to like there for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:36 PM
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Why would I have it coming? Doesn't make sense. Why would I be ok with occasional abuse and occasionally being hurt? It's ok to have years of normal, loving sex. Without hurting anyone. I don't want ot be hurt even for my man's pleasure, and there is nothing wrong with that. I don't suppouse that you would agree on pain and being abuse for your woman's orgasm. Not every relationship is BDSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:32 PM
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Red pill women encourage women to become doormats. Not a good strategy. I don't want anyone to make my decisions for me. I want to choose where to go for holiday goddamnit, not only agree on "captain's" favorite places. But that's what rpw encourages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 02:48 PM
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Objectively, kissing or hugging is less painful or degrading than chocking with a dick or fucking someone's ass. If he feels diferently, than he can tell me. I told him that some sex acts are out of a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:54 AM
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And there is nothing that my man could do that would be equally awful for him as anal is awful for me. You don't know that. I know. There is no such acts outside some sick BDSM that a man could to for a woman that would be painful or degrading for him. These acts aren't equivalents of being romantic. And if they were, then getting romantic gestures from my man wouldn't be worth pain and sexual discomfort. I'm not neurotic for not wanting to chocke on a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:37 AM
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Yeah, idiot, maybe if I was single ans found young looking man in his 40 who doesn't have middle age crisis,cI would find him hot (never happened). But I wouldn't date him because he would be 14 year older than me and I wouldn't want to be with someone that old. And why talking about exeptions? I said that there are expetions. But i'm not attracted to men who are ten years older than me. And I don't date much younger guys because there are on a different life stage than I am. Wrote it long time …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:02 AM
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Do you agree on sex that is painful to you? Does your wife punish you? How? I'm not trying to shock you. Just checking if you would like agree on painful sex acts. Why would I want to have sax that is a burden to me? Of course I want to feel pleasure, sex isn't only for men. If it was, I wouldn't do it at all. We don't have punishments in our relationship and using sex to punish someone is just awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:39 AM
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Women choose partners around their age or slightly older. No 10-25-20 years older. Does it hurt you so much? Probably I will look at 40 yo guys different when i'm 40. That's the way it is. No, when I see someone cool he is usually around my age. Why would I choose someone much older than me? Especially when I can have someone young? He would have much less good years to gives me, if any, people look their best in their twenties and have the best psychical abilities. Plus, these guys you show me …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:23 AM
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Slightly younger too, sure. One of my friends married her husband when he was 21, she was 24, another was 23 when she married her 21 year old boyfriend. I wouldn't date guy who is 20 at this moment, as he probably would eant different things than I do. You act like that 35 and 40 year old men are the most disgusting and rancid things on earth and women start puking when a 40 year man breathes near them, which is why I say you're probably a lesbian. Nobody is puking. But yes, when I think about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:41 AM
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Sex is about plesasure and intimacy for me. I'm not in a relationship to be hurt or in pain. And I don't want to hurt my man either. So would you be ok with woman squishing your balls if that was her desire? Or painfully penetrating your ass with my a strap-on? Or chocking you with her pussy? There is no punishment in my relationship, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:04 AM
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I love how you say women don't get unattractive at 35 but men do. Literally never said that. "Women also don't necessary start to suddenly look grose once they hit 30 or even mid 30 but you still probably wouldn't want to date someone 8-10 years older than you." This is what I wrote. This guy, Chris, is an exeption. Just like Jessica Alba or Miranda Kerr. They are still hot. But they are exeptions. Maybe man do age slower. But it doesn't matter that men can produce sperm in their 70s. Most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:01 AM
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Just because men you work with and your male friend are hideous doesn't at all mean men who are 30 year old are ugly. Most start to look worse, especially after 35 yo. Even famous actors. Women also don't necessary start to suddenly look grose once they hit 30 or even mid 30 but you still probably wouldn't want to date someone 8-10 years older than you. I'm 26 now. A guy, lets say, who is 35 would be already too old for me. It's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:40 PM
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I said that there probably are exeptions. Like with everything in this world. But you literally just said older men are gross and you're disgusted by them. If a man is old or 40 he's automatically disgusting according to your logic. When your finance reaches 30 he'll be disgusting as well I see what I see. I work with older men and none of them seem attractive to me. If you worked with many older women you probably wouldn't find any of them attractive. So why are you surprised? It's normal. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:25 PM
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I don't think that his face is attractive. Seriously, you should have picked someone better to make a point. Most women prefer slightly older men, max 5 years. Often 2-3. Very often we choose guys around our age, that's the norm. Dude, I work with men, I have male friends from highs school and my university They already look much worse than they used to. The one that used to be cute aren't cute anymore. I work with 30 and 40 years old men, maybe one of them is good looking. I travel a lot, go to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:01 PM
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When h is old he is old. That's the way it is. This guy isn't my type so no, I don't think that he is more attractive than my man. It doesn't matter that 40 years old guy finds me attractive and other women in their twenties. At this moment I find him creepy and when I imagine his makes body, I'm grossed out. Maybe there are hot exepctions, but in general old guys are hot for me at all. And it's completely ok. I dont know a single women who doesn't think the way I do. Most women choose guys arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:40 PM
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It's so strange how you say 30 year old men are gross when you're infact a middle aged soon to be 30 year old woman. And it's funnier how when you yourself 30, the same men you call gross suddenly become not gross. It just the way it is. When I was 18 I wanted 18-20 year old. While 26 yo could be still attractive I felt, that he could take advantage of me. Men after 30 looked already too old. I know that some women date old guys, but in reality I've never met a couple like that. It's normal that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:32 PM
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They really don't. They look their age and they don't look as good anymore (Brad Pitt and DiCaprio and Johnny Deep all look really bad). I'm not atrtracted to old men, that's it. And it's not only the look, older men have just their baggage, habbits, different life experience and want different things. In fact the way you feel about older men is probably how younger girls feel about your fiance. The probably think he's also a perverted creep. If he would hit on them then I wouldn't be surprised.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:53 PM
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I don't agree. Pain isn't necessary for sex, and sex should be at least a little pleasant for the woman. If I wanted to squish his balls for my sexual satisfaction, should he be ok with that? I don't agree on painful acts because I don't want to be hurt. I don't see why would I? Why a man who loves me would want to hurt me for his orgasm? It's not ok to even ask me that. Are there any sexual acts that would be equall painful for the man but pleasant for his woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:17 PM
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I'm not sure if people in these comments are brainwashed or just simply bad to the bone.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/02/20 07:49 PM
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Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:16 PM
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And lastly, what kind of a guy would be with a 26 year old woman who thinks he'll become gross once he's 30. No thanks, you're most probably a lesbian. How do you feel about 30 yo women, do you think they're gross When I was 18, I was creeped out by man ten in their mid twenties who were hitting on my. Now I find man my age hot, including my fiance. When I'm 35 yo I will probably be interested in men my age. I drew the line for mysel that starts after 30. Sure, someone might be still hot at this…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:14 PM
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That's how I see older men who try to ask me out in a bar. Can't help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:06 PM
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reality.exe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:03 PM
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Why would I shame the women? They can sleep with them if they want to. And I can find it gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:02 PM
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Why would I jelous of men who hit on me? It's just gross when 40 year old guy thinks that he can have one of us (me or my friends). Especially when we are having fun with each other. We are not interested in men over 30. Older men don't look as good as they used to (just like all people) and there is a big chance, that they are divorced or married but want to cheat. Or have middle age crisis. Or are looking for sex. I know that some women date older guys. But I don't, just like many other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:59 PM
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Even if I wanted to, I wouldn't do it. I don't really want to lay naked with two men, come on. It seems nice in my mind, but in reality it wouldn't be as cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:47 PM
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Sex is for both, men and women. Women should also feel at least some pleasure, not be forced to do harmful things. I don't want to be treated like trash just because my man cleaned my lips from chocolate with his t-hirt, or bought me a rose. Him being nice to me isn't equal to me being in pain from anal or other degrading acts. No matter how you draw it, it just isn't. And I don;t care that there are women who enjoy anal, for my it's something I will never try because being degraded and psychica…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:29 PM
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Just not every fantasy is possible or worth trying. I have a fantasy about two men just kissing me, whispering to me how beautiful I am and eating me out. But doing it in real life would end my relationship, and I doubt that I would find another man that would agree on just touching and kissing me without getting anything in return. Fantasy is just it, a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:07 PM
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No. For me porn sex means anal, deepthroat etc. which seems awful and I don't want to be treated that way. I can explore things that aren't painful, uncomfortable or degrading. Sex would be pleasant for me as well. Doing deepthroat would completely kill the mood for me and I wouldn't want to do anything else that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:54 PM
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I don't dance so I always refuse dancing. What's a big deal? And still, bad dancing is not the same as anal. And anal is worse because it's something that my man, who is suppoused to love me, does to me. So he hurts me for his plesasure. Not amount of dancing or flowers would be equally awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:03 PM
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So I don't make him dance. And still, bad dancing isn't painful or isn't saying "I own your body, suffer for my orgasm". It's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:13 PM
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All of it is subjective. For me anal and deepthroats are degrading. And there is nothing that my man could do that would be equally awful for him as anal is awful for me. No, I don't expect an expensive ring. And even if I did, having to choke on his dick wouldn't be worth it. Blowjob doesn't equal deepthroat. And for me eqivalent of a blowjobs is fingering me (I never let him eat me out). Not buying me flowers flowers. I also buy things for him to make him happy. I do things to make him happy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:17 AM
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Special sex acts don't have to be painful either. People who disagree with my view will often say sex acts are painful and degrading. My point is in giving perspective By special sex acts I mean anal or deepthroats. They are either painful or degrading, or at least very uncomfortable. Man would have try so hard to mak anal enjoyable for the woman. And I don't know how deepthroat can not be painful or degrading. Or tighting up, where he could do whatever he wanted to me. If he would ask me about …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:09 AM
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Tell that to the women who think non vanilla sex is painful and degrading. Not me. It's not my argument. But it very often is degrading or painful. Why would women agree on things that hurt them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:54 AM
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No. How being romantic can hurt you? Or degrade you? You don't have to spend money to be romantic. I do romantic things all the time and I know how it works. But "special" sex acts usually are painful or degrading for the woman. It's not ok to expect us to be in pain because you were nice to us. Anal doesn't equal flowers or hugging. I never degrade or hurt my partner, and it's not ok to expect me to agree on being degraded during sex. I don't care that"it's just a kink".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:44 AM
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I guess you are fine. But to be fair, I would not choose a man older than five years. Not only because of the way he looks but because of the differences in our mentality, expectations, life experience etc. You know, hotness is not the most important thing. I will love my men even when he will be 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:22 AM
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I'm 26. Maybe, I think that people can look like shit in their twenties as well. But looking at celebrities, the ones who I found hot in their twenties stopped being attractive to me after their 30 something birthday. Like Nergal from Behemoth, James McAvoy, even Zack Effron. They look worse and their age is visible. I don't like guys much older than me. And men after 30 are too far away from what I find attractive (skin, hair, wrinkles, etc). But I guess that early 30s is not that bad as late 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:00 AM
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I don't think that people after 30 are actually old. But they are too old for me. I have yet to meet a guy over thirty who doesn't creep me out when he approaches me. And who look like in his twenties. They usually look bad and act like daddies who want to fuck a younger girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:08 AM
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I don't know, different people like different things. And sex can easily become degrading, so there is nothing wrong in trying to avoid that. For my slow blowjobs are ok, although I don't like doing them. But deepthroats or hard, fast blowjobs are awful and degrading. Don't think that I'm neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:39 PM
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If both parties are fine with having sex soon, then it's ok. And it's not my business. But, for me sex isn't something I do for fun. And for many women penetration isn't pleasant, or definitely not as pleasant as it is for men. If I slept with someone who didn't love me, I would risk that he would leave me after sex. So I would risk giving orgasm to a man who doesn't care about me, without getting anything in return (like love etc). I would feel used if a man just cummed on me and walked away. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:25 PM
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But I don't see why would I change it? Some sex acts are gross, painful or degrading to me. It's ok if I don't want to do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:12 PM
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For me men after 30 are kind of gross and I can't help but think that they would want to take advantage of me. So I guess I just feel protective towards other women when I hear about them with old dudes. But most women find these guys pathetic. Me and my friends call them "old beetroots" whenever we go out and they hit on us. I personally don't know a single couple like this, all of my friends are with men who are their age or two-three years older/younger. So it's only rethorical issue to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:03 PM
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Well, from my perspective it isn't. I could live years without sex. I traveled a lot without my man, didn't have sex for months and I didn't even masturbate. I think about sex when I have sex regularly. And even then I never need penetration, but rather kissing, touching and fingering clit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:25 PM
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By porn acts I meant non vanilla things. What specific acts are you talking about? Anal, deepthroat, tighting up etc. For me, it doesn't matter if some women like it. I don't want to do it no matter what. I don't think that it's fair to expect me to do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 02:06 PM
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Really? They make porn with neck kissing? Focusing on women's body?gentle fingering? Blowjobs are foreplay for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:18 PM
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It's full of love and intimacy. And I still fake a little (moan, etc) so it's not that quiet. Sex doesn't have to look like porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:07 PM
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But I shouldn't have to agree on being humiliated or in pain for someone's pleasure at any point. Why would I? I don't want to humiliate my partner and I think that it's ok if I don't want to be humiliated myself. Meanwhile me and my wife: slap contest. If she likes it, fine. For me, it would kill the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:59 PM
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If both people are ok with shitting on eacher than who am I to stop them? But I'm not going to do things that are painful and humillating for me. I don't care if other people find it hot. I don't like blowjobs and I rarely do it. When I do then it's only for him and usually it's the only thing we do. Because doing it kills the mood for me and I don't feel like doing anything else. Sex should be fun for both parties. Not a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:55 PM
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But the idea of proposal and wedding it's highly uncomfortable and oppressed. You shouldn't do it then. I wouldn't want my man to propose to me if it made him feel uncomfortable and oppressing. I do mind if my man calls me a whore or chokes with his dick during blowjob. I would hate that and definitely wouldn't be able to continue after sucking him like that. How could I? That would kill the mood for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:24 PM
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Deepthroats are not normal blowjobs, I don't choke or cry during regular blowjob. Just for the record. I think that we provide similar amout of romantic efforts, as we both like romance in general. My sexual efforts are bigger than his, because I don't have as much pleasure from penetration as he does. So sex is usually more pleasant for him anyway. But I don't think that I should have to be uncomfortable or humiliated for his sexual satisfaction. It's not fair to expect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:13 PM
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Watersports aren't painful, for example, despite it's already extreme. Anal doesn't even have to be painful if it's done correctly. Still degrading. And can be painful. I don't know what he could do to make it 100% not painful or not humillating. I don't want to be humiliated, even for my man's pleasure. Because that makes her feel loved and special? Doing extra efforts to do a very beautiful proposal/wedding despite you dislike it, just for her, is a common thing men do. Does it degrade you? Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:01 PM
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How? Kissing me or going for a walk in the snow is as uncomfortable as chocking during deepthroat or anal? It's not worth it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:48 AM
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Non vanilla sex acts are usually painful for women. No. Yes. I can't imagine anything non vanilla that wouldn't be degrading for me, or painful. Same, I can't really focus on my pleasure when I'm focusing on hers. I adopt a rhythm and attitude that I don't particularly mind but don't enjoy either, and focus on stimulating all her sweet spots to give her the best I can. People take turn, change position for the other to cum. I know people idealize the mythical "came at the same time" but it's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:45 AM
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And that's what women in general expect men to do? Come on. In normal situation there is nothing like that. What could my man do for me in return for deepthroat or anal? Something that would be uncomfortable for him as these acts, but pleasurable for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:32 AM
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I have read you comment and still, it's not an eqivalent to me. Non vanilla sex acts are usually painful for women. I never agree on no vanilla things because they feel awul. I don't know what would my man do for me that could be equally uncomfortable for him. For me overeacting means that I can't focus on my pleasure, I don't feel nothing at all when I try to be wild in bed. I know what I'm saying because I used to fake orgasms all the time and pretend that I'm shaking from pleasure. Sex is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:27 AM
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Do you agree those are equivalent? No. Porn like sex is often painful or uncomfortable for women and pleasant for men (deepthroats, anal, acrobatic positions, fast penetration, no foreplay). There is nothing as painful for a man in sex that he could do to his women in return. And sex isn't only for the guy, it's suppoused to be for both partners. Romance in relationship is just caring about each other, loving each other, caring about each other's comfort and pleasure etc. Both men and women can …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:00 AM
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Physical pain. Although I would feel emotionaly damaged if I did any of it. And I meant sex acts performed in porn, not jusy watching porn. Deepthroats, anal, hard penetration etc. It doesn't seem pleasant and orgasmic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:00 AM
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Sex in a car would never make me orgasm. I need to feel comfortable and touched in the right places to feel good. Penetration in a weird position is definitely not enough. So don't listen to these man guys, if you actually care about your woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:59 AM
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For me porn sex is sex that requires all these weird positions and hardcore acts that will never make most women cum but look good for men. Sex without focusing on actual female pleasure, just blowjobs and penetration. Plus everything with pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:57 AM
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For the record, I waited much longer than three dates, half a year with my fiance and around ten months with my ex boyfriend. Risk that he would not fall in with me. Sex wouldn't be a plesasure for me, it would be impossible for me to orgasm during first time with him. But he would probably cum, do I would risk satisfaying a man who doesn't care about me without getting anything in return (penetration in any position wouldn't be enough). Plus, I would just increase the number of my partners, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:33 AM
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No. I will eat things I don't really like when I'm super hungry. But I don't want to be just penetrated when I'm horny. I could live without sex till the end of my life if it was just me being fucked and performing blowjobs. I wan't a good sex, with touching and pleasure, not just banging. So for me it's just something I want (if it's done correctly), but definitely not my need,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:38 PM
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Because it's awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 05:47 AM
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Reading FDS I can say I followed it quite accurately. Just skipped the "making them pay for everything" part. But always made them wait for sex couple of months, they had to treat me very well, show actual respect, effort and interest etc. FDS 101. they are just doing that more and better than their female counterparts. They don't, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 03:06 PM
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It is too early to say if FDS really works, I can't check for myself (i am a male) and they have very low numbers of people who say it works. My prediction is that it does not work as it in no point consider supply, and don't seem to care about demand enough, how a strategy disconsider concurrence can work is beyond me. I used it without knowing about it, that's how I met my fiance. I always made men waitfor sex, never had one night stand etc. and it worked for me. I just never made them pay for…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 02:53 PM
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I would say otherwise. I would love to fire those who keep shouting and raging, but I can't, those are the guys to do their job way above average, one of those can be equivalent to an entire team of calm men and women, the FtM trans who was very rage-y was quite the worker. For example. He alone would be equivalent to my brother entire team. You have to see the numbers alone. I would recommend checking with your chief if you have doubts. They probably passes by the same thing. It is hard to deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 02:26 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that men can't be rational because they are angry. I mean that men aren't more rational than women and many decisions they make are driven by emotions. Anger or frustration, you name it. And I mean my former bosses, politicians, teachers, movie stars, male friends and many more. I just don't see men in general as more rational creatures. And just because they are angered does it mean they are irrational? No, just like women aren't less rational than men just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 01:25 PM
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If that was true, you and I would be in a lot of problem every day. Think with me, which are the men's natures, and which are their behavior and how different they are. But it is true. And it's normal because people are driven by emotions. Just because I cry when I'm scared it doesn't mean that I can't make logical decision. I work in IT field, many of my colleagues are men. While some of them are smart and good at their job, they still throw tantrums when something goes not the way they wanted.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:40 PM
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Yes, there is a lot of misogyny This is your response. Why would I sympatise with people who call giving me rights "a mistake"? Or with men who call women "sluts" and "whores"? Men who refuse to acknowledge that I have my dreams, hobbies and aspirations?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 11:29 AM
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To be honest I don't think they try. They belive that they are that way because they are men. They talk about how rational they are, and how women are driven by emotions. How men are logical and stoic even though their actions don't show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:59 AM
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Men aren't as rational as they like to think. They are driven by their emotions really hard. Look at redpilled guys, manosphere, male politicians, Hitler etc. I also live among men, work with them, I have fiance, male friends, family members etc. And no, they are not strong and rational. They are just...people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:20 PM
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Well, I actually mean things thay he said. I dated guys who, during kissing would tell me how they wanted me to moan or how they wanted to fuck. Of course I never slept with them and that would imediately make me stop dating them. So different women mean different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:06 PM
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Jesus Christ. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 05:35 PM
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Book that he wanted. And he gave me book that a wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:17 PM
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Oh, I know. I was just hoping that maybe one of them finally admits that there is nothing equally demanding that they could do for their women in return. They even try to normalise acts like deepthroats or anal, without thinking about what it does to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 05:29 AM
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No, we are not. I never considered lifting as something you described. Women in general don't see it like that. I think about lifting when I'm about to lift, that's it. And we don't waste our time thinking about male self imptovement or other things like that. Men are obsessed about thst, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 11:24 AM
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He started dating another girl when we met. He did have the option, but I don't really undersand why is it important. I'd love to learn how you concluded it's only #1 but not others. You can tell when someone is attracted to you and when there is a feeling involved. I also didn't want to meet any other men when I started dating him, even thought we didn't sleep together. It's obvious to me. He enjoys sex like any other guy. But he wanted me so he waited. Simple as that. Every man who wanted me h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 07:37 AM
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And grow a moustache.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 07:19 AM
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He dresses well. He is just ugly and always angry at everything. Gym won't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 08:10 PM
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He does. He is very outgoing. But also super unatractive. Big and chubby, double chin, big belly, ugly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:26 PM
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Of course it will. Of course it won't. Maybe for some lucky ones, but no love or commitment. They're only virgins because they don't try. If they went outside and talked to girls they'd have plenty of options. No, they wouldn't. I work in IT, I know plenty guys like that. I'm friends with one of them who tries all the time, he never even kissed a girl. He asked me and other cooworkers out, single or not, uses tinder. No luck. Men have it harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:23 PM
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Unatractive guys. Having a good job will not get them laid. I know this type. Plus, just read forums. Tons of IT workers who are virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:14 PM
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I don't think he is in love with her. No most don't. But there are plenty who do. And there's always Thailand. So they should go to Thailand. What's the problem? Most of these men will not find a woman. Many men will never get laid at all. It's men's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:02 PM
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Oh please. I doubt she is in love with him. She just uses his money while dating someone else.Women in general don't live with old farts. And most young women don't date old dutes. Most common age difference is really small like 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:50 PM
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2-3 years older? That's like nothing. Majority of us don't date old dudes. Having to look at old guy for his resources sounds awful. It's really better to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:45 PM
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No it's not. Being a servant is waaaay better than being alone. No it's not. Being servant is awful. And it's not necessary. Don't project your kinks on others. "In the study, men’s desirability peaks at age 50. But women’s desirability starts high at age 18 and falls throughout their lifespan." Of course not. 50 year old guys aren't hot anymore. Show me one male that is over 35- 40 and in their "prime". Can't wait. Young women don't date old dudes. I would never date someone over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:40 PM
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They don't. We call men after 30 old beetroots. Women always can find someone if they want. Men? Not so much. And we live in 21 century, so being single would be better than being a servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:29 PM
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No one is offering it. You gotta pay for it. Ugh, no thanks. That changes when you turn 30. Then women have a hard time finding someone, and men don't. It really doesn't. Look at the amount of male old virgins. Men always have harder time finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:24 PM
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Seriously, stop projecting your sick kinks on others. Women don't want to be slaves. Men are the ones who have hard times finding someone, not women. No matter age. And if he leaves me because I'm not his servant, then he really isn't worth anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:19 PM
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So his not worth trying if he does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:15 PM
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Pick who? I can't know what kind of person someone is until I spend with him some time. I don't truly know someone after just a week or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:13 PM
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I'm loved. But if he would love me more if I was his servant than I obviously don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:04 PM
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Or I can just have a normal life with my man and doing the things I like without being his servant. You know, like normal people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:57 PM
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That's the only things you took from my response? But ok. So tell me, what's the equivalent? What my man could to for me, that would be as uncomfortable for him as these things and would make me orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:28 PM
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I try to make it simpler and simpler for you and each time you best me with your ignorance. Bravo, I guess. You also just cherry pick from things that I wrote. When I wrote that not every kinks should be tried and that spuses shouldn't feel pressured to do things that might be uncomfortable or scary or whatever, I also meant women's kinks. If both parts want it then it's ok I guess. But if my man wanted to try anal or tight me up again, I don't think I shoud do it. Because I'm not comfortable wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:16 PM
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But we don't live only to provide sexual adventures for men. And when does he has the time to plan adventures for me? Plus, having goals outside marrige is fun and a good thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:56 PM
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Maybe they don't enjoy making her uncomfortable. But they enjoy tighting her up or fucking her ass despite it being uncomfortable or painful. That's why I don't think that every kink should be explored. Because it doesn't matter if my man would be excited to tight me up, if that would cause me discomfort or pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:53 PM
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I'm definitely not. Would you let your girlfriend to tight you up and do whatever she wants to you? Even things that you don't want? Would you let her penetrate your ass? If not, does not wanting it makes you a prude? There is nothing to get it. Just because something excites you, doesn;t mean that your woman has to agree on it if it's painful or degrading or uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:34 PM
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I'm not prude. I don't have to agree on being uncomfortable to not being prude. My man doesn't have to do anything uncomfortable or painful as well. Although there is nothing equally painful or uncomfortable in sex that a man could do for his woman. I know without trying that having something down my throat is painful or would make me impossible to breathe, it's just common sense. I know that I don't like to eat poop, don't have to try it to be sure. Cleaning myself before anal isn't romantic, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:28 PM
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I've read too many times men saying that anal is cool because it's a way to completely dominate her. Or that it's cool when she does it and it hurts her. Don't make me started on deepthroats. Tighting up makes it impossible to move for me, so the man can do anything he wants to me. Doesn't sound like something that could be pleasant. What I meant in my post is that not every kink should be performed, especially if it can be painful or harmful. Which means that wife shouldn't feel pressured to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:11 PM
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Well, anal seems really painful. Or deepthroat. Tighting up is uncomfortable (agreed on it once). Basically, all of this things bring man pleasure, but are painful or uncomfortable for the woman. There is nothing I can think of that would be equally uncomfortable for my man and pleasant for me. I also wrote that not every kink is good and should performed, especially if it's harmful to the other person. That means that there are some kinks that are ok I guess. And even if there was something lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:45 PM
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I undersand it very well. And I still think that people shouldn't do things in bed that are uncomfortable or painful. Just because he calls causing me pain his "kink" doesn't make it suddenly ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:27 PM
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I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just explaining why making men wait is a good thing, because you said otherwise. But there are a lot of other guys that you missed out on knowing that likely could have been better. If they didnt waste their time on you, they likely had more going for them. Someone asking me to blow them because "I'm so horny" or "it's not a big deal", or puting his hands into my pants knowing that I don't want to, isn't someone who could be better. I wouldn't orgasm from sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:25 PM
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No, I just don't think that every kink is good. I see people saying that spouses should fulfill each other's kinks and I don't agree with that. If my man wanted to cause me pain, cut me with a knife or tight me up, I would freak out. It's not okay to do it to me outside our bedroom, so why would I be ok with him doing it to me during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:17 PM
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If every girl out there required jumping through the same hoops you do to get into bed, you might be considered. They dont, so most guys will go elsewhere. But that's ok if they go elswhere. I made every man wait, because I wanted them to love me before we have sex. And it revealed their real nature. Some would just go away, but some would be really pushy and act like assholes, sometimes rapey. So at the end of the day I did a good thing by not sleeping with them, because most of them were just …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:14 PM
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You do you. I don't want to please a man who doesn't love me and I never did. Women have harder time orgasming, I need much more than penetration. I need to feel loved and have this live whispered to my ear, that's another reason why sleeping with a guy who doesn't love me would be awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 03:07 PM
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When he loves me he cares about my pleasure. He will spend his time kissing and touching me, learning how to please me. A guy who doesn't love will just try to penetrate me. I don't belive that he would take time to learn what I need. So what's the point of sleeping with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 02:51 PM
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I think that sex is important but it's definitely not the most important thing in a relationship. I don't think that people should do some uncomfortable sex acts to satisfy their partners. I also don't think that every kink should be fulfilled. Even more, I think it's unfair to ask a wife to do anal when it's clearly painful or can harm her. Sex is sex, it doesn't need to be some sick kinky show.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 02:49 PM
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Yeah, because sex isn't that pleasant for women. Doing it with someone who doesn't love me wouldn't give me anything, because I wouldn't orgasm from it (penetration is not enough). Why would I risk giving satisfaction to the man who doesn't love me? What would it give me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 02:45 PM
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Then he is not high value to me. I want a man to be crazy about me, not a fuckboy who doesn't care if he sleeps with me or other women. I always made men wait and yeah, some didn't want to do that, were very pushing or would just leave when I didn't touch their penises. But at the end I got the best guy, who actually loves me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 02:41 PM
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What about my hobbies? And being able to buy my own guitars? Or being able to earn money to visit Vietnam? Or to choose places that I want to visit, not only my husband. What about being my own person? Being able to refuse certain sex acts id I don't want to do them? I prefer to be stressed from time to time and to have my freedom. I work full time, can do all the things O want and honestly? It's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 01:27 PM
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I'm all for having my own money and I proudly showed it during dates. FDS it's a tactic that helps to avoid redpilled men, or men that want to use women. Remember that many women are raised to be doormats. FDS helps them build their self esteem and stop serving men. It's a good thing. Plus some guys want to just have sex, it's important to filter them out and to find a man who will truly love and adore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 08:42 PM
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It helps to avoid guys who want to have sex without commitment, who want to boss their women around and who want to turn their partner into submissive cutie pie that has to enter "his frame". FDS tells women to keep their own frame instead. It's a strategy thay helps (among others) to avoid redpilled guys. And that's why I support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 08:06 PM
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Many women are on this sub to support each other. I'm engaged and still like to read it, because creating spaces that are suppoused to empower women and bring us together always makes me happy. And fds works btw. Plus, it's a good thing that we have FDS, so we can avoid redpill ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 07:49 PM
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Well, it's not. Expecting me to be in pain for his plesasure is not fair. Especially if I wouldn't get pleasure at all. Sex isn't only for one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:52 PM
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Again, I don't see why would I agree on being in pain for his plesasure. It's not fair. Maybe he would have orgasmed, but what about me? I wouldn't want him to finish me after being treated like that. It certainly would give me some discomfort. But where is discomfort for him? Why only I would have to do these things, especially when I can't demand anything like that for myself? I belive that sex should be nice for both parties, not only for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:43 PM
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But it's also not an unpleasant duty. I wouldn't get wet, and mamy women don't. Like I said, I never make my man feel pain, so why would I have to be in pain? Sex should give me pleasure. Where would I get it if I did this things? Good luck to you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:23 PM
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He get's his oral. By nasty porn things I mean some kinks like anal, deepthroat, bondage etc. Things that cause a woman pain or discomfort. It wouldn't be ok to expect me to do this things, especially when there is nothing similar he could do to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:17 PM
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But bring "prude" means just not agreeing on some nasty, porn like things. Because I'm not a real prude. I just belive that sex is for both, men and women. And women shouldn't feel pressure to do painful or uncomfortable sex acts to not loose their partners. Especially when men don't have to agree on pain during sex to please their women in return. Sex would be a nightmare if I had to do these things. How could I enjoy myself after being in pain? I'm not a masochist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:06 PM
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Why dead bedroom? I'm not planning to stop having sex with him. You wrote it like we do something awful, which we don't. And he definitely doesn't look like he wants to stop. I please him with other things and he doesn't even have to eat me out. Vanilla sex is great and it's ok to not experiment with crazy porn shit. Because, surprise surprise, most experiments are painful or uncomfortable for the woman, not for men (deepthroat, anal, bondage, etc). We can have sex that is pleasant for both of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:58 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:51 PM
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Really? Being empathetic is being a bad person to you? Men during oral sex do swallow woman’s body fluids. I wouldn’t want to do that, so why would I expect my beloved men to do it for me? Plus, I give him oral anyway, even though I don’t like it. I don’t see how does it make me a bady lady. I would be a bad lady if I would allow him to eat me out despite knowing, how it feels. I waited much longer than three months. And it’s a good rule for women. If I slept with a guy without loving him, I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:42 AM
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Lol, thanks but no. I know how giving oral feels. I wouldn't feel ok. Not everyone has to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:38 AM
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Sure, everyone is different. Although I give him oral. But I know how giving oral feels that why I never let him do it to me. It's just empathy I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:28 AM
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Well, I wouldn't want to have a numb tounge or to eat someone's fluids, so why would I let my man to do it for me? I don't think I could feel good knowing what he has to do. For me sex isn't a performance. It would be awful if it was. There are things that seem even painful. I don't expect him to do some weird stuff for me, so why would I do weird stuff for him? You really can have loving, intimate sex that actually feels good without being uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:05 AM
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Sex is not a performance. And I never let my man to go down on me, because, among others, I don't want him to have a numb tounge. Or to eat my fluids. Good sex doesn't mean that we have to do some weird things to not make it boring. And it definitely doesn't mean that one person has to be uncomfortable or, even worse, in pain to please a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:57 AM
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Other kinds of sex might be painful for the woman. And sex isn't only for men, I don't see why would I have to be uncomfortable in bed, when i'm suppoused to feel good. I don't treat sex as a reward for my man. It's just something we do to be close to each other. And we only do things we both enjoy, not something that only one person wants. I wouldn't want to make him uncomfortable, so why would he do things that would make me feel bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:40 AM
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Just no. I don't watch porn and I definitely don't want to have weird, painful sex. Performing deepthroat would never make me orgasm, as well as being penetrated without having my clit touched and so on. If she is into you, she will want you to kiss her and make her cum doing normal sex stuff, not some weird sick things. If you have to do weird shit to make her orgasm, she is not into you. I promised to myself that I will never try anal or bondage, no matter what. And it's not because I'm not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:33 AM
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Vanilla sex is the best though. Not every woman wants weird kinky sex. I don't have kinks and I definitely refuse to develope any.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:27 AM
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If I would just have penetrative sex, then I would get nothing. No plesasure, no nothing, definitely no orgasm. But he would have pleasure and he would orgasm. So he touches me to please me, and then I focus on him by touching him or by letting him penetrate me. That's fair. Having only penetrative sex wouldn't be nice at all and wouldn't be fair to me. Penetrative sex is focusing only on his pleaseure, plus I touch him as well in different ways. So he get's more anyway, I never even let him eat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:32 PM
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Once again, guess how many pleasurable nerve endings our fingers/tounge got? 🙄 zero. But he later gets penetrative sex. So first I get my pleasure from being kissed and touched, then he get's his from penetration. It doesn't matter that his fingers don't have pleasurable nerve endings, vaginas don't neither. Or not enough. Vaginas aren't like penises, learn it already. Penetration isn't pleasurable for most women, it's just meh. To make it pleasurable we have to touch our clits, which is literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:17 PM
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Vaginas don't have too many nerve endings. We have clitoris for that, clitoral stimulation is an eqivalent if penis stimulation. Penetration for me feels like stroking my arm. I feel everything, it's just not pleasant. So without touching and kissing us, we have nothing. And men still have pleasure from penetration. No foreplay makes sex extremely unfair for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:00 PM
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Sure, because I love him. But also the difference is that he has pleasure during penetration and I don't. So he get's more anyway, like most men during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:50 PM
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Sorry, what I meant was that vaginal stimulation isn't necessary to cum (because vaginas are usually stimulated with penis). We have clitoris for that. And having to touch my own clit during penetration is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:46 PM
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Sorry, my mistake. It's just men have better time during piv sex than women. I assumed that you are in majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:27 PM
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Because penetration doesn't really give plesasure to most women, so being active is pointless. I moan, shake and move during sex only to make a show, not because I actually want to. For you sex is just boring but you still can cum. For them sex is boring and they don't orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:20 PM
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Maybe you are an exception. It's hard for me to belive that a man who doesn't love me would do it for me, especially without trying to penetrate me as soon as possible. If I'm wrong than that's good for all these women who have ONS. But I've read here too many times that men wouldn't focus on woman's plesasure during one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:11 PM
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You think that a man I just met would kiss my neck for twenty minutes or so while whispering sweet things to my ear? Or would be touching me for half an hour focusing only on my pleasure? I don't think so. ONS aren't for every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:57 PM
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I'm pasting my answer that I wrote on PPD before the post got deleted. I never had a real strategy but we can say, that I followed FDS not knowing about it. I only had sex with two men, both in commmited relationships. My first boyfriend waited for sex almost 10 months, my fiance half a year, untill I was sure that I loved them and they loved me. Yes, other men that I dated didn't want to wait that long and some would be pushy, some would try to make me break my rule and would leave when I didn'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/02/20 02:32 PM
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Foreplay is not enough. Foreplay would mean that penetration is still the main part of sex, which again, wouldn't be really pleasant for us. And I have seen here many posts from men saying, that they don't care about womans plesasure during one night stand. And that they wouldn't go doesn't on her, but at the same time they would expect blowjobs. Doesn't sound like fun to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:17 PM
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For him? Of course. And he is my prince.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:13 PM
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I never had a real strategy but we can say, that I followed FDS not knowing about it. I only had sex with two men, both in commmited relationships. My first boyfriend waited for sex almost 10 months, my fiance half a year, untill I was sure that I loved them and they loved me. Yes, other men that I dated didn't want to wait that long and some would be pushy, some would try to make me break my rule and would leave when I didn't sleep with them, but I don't regret it. I got the best man in the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:04 PM
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My fiance is the nicest person I know. I never dated an asshole. Why would I date someone who doesn't like me anyway? Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:48 PM
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No, but I'm like most women. It's our anatomy, clitoris is an eqivalent of penis. Most women need clitoral stimulation to feel real pleasure. Expecting us to orgasm from only vaginal stimulation is like expecting men to orgasm from only touching their balls. Some will cum, most won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:37 PM
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Penetrative sex isn't as good for women as it is for men. Very often dick isn't really necessary for us to orgasm. Most women need clitoral stimulation for that. And no, masturbation during PiV isn't enough. So yes, we can enjoy sex for the sake of sex, but our partner needs to put an effort to make it enjoyable. I have sex with my fiance because I want to, but he spends a lot of time touching and kissing me. I never had one night stand but I think that it wouldn't be a good experience for me. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:33 PM
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Haha :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 09:22 AM
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That depends. How many children do you want? I'm 26 and I would never look at a guy over 30. But if I was over 35 I would probably date you. But women at this age night not want to have too many kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 09:21 AM
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I don't have such fantasies. So it's not every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 09:04 AM
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I'm not fat, thank you. And I sleep with only one man. Penis is not enough to please women, we have clitoris for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:02 PM
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I could never undersand, why do they care so much about muscels. Sure, a well built body is a big plus. But men who look like mountains of muscels are disgusting. Especially older ones. In my gym, there are guys like that. They for sure are big and have spent a lot of time lifting, their arms and legs are huge. But nothing about them is attractive, especially when they shave their heads. They look like meatballs. I just can't stop myself from thinking how ridiciolous they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 01:06 PM
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Men are literally objects that exist purely to provide sperm and serve women. Not sexually though, since they can't even please any woman with their pee pees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:42 PM
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I've been working with men for a while now, I have an older brother, my fiances male friends and if It teached me anything, it's that men gossip, are mean and criticise other people as much as stereotipical woman. Plus, they can be really danegours to me when I'm alone with them. So I would agree that men are much bigger threat for women in general and weird should never fully trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 10:54 AM
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Oh yeah, I forgot! And women want to be hurt and disrespect by their beloved men, but only if they are alpha. True story.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:12 PM
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You think that other men don't cheat and beat their wifes? Of course they do. Especially when they know that they are below averege and can't cope with that. And look at incels. Many of them are just horrible people, despite not being "alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 10:21 AM
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That's what I did. I never slept with someone I didn't love and who didn't love me. My fiance knew that I needed to hear two magic words before we could see each other naked. Sure, my "rule" filtered some men who would start pushing after couple of weeks of dating. Buty it's a good thing, I didn't end up with a fuck boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 08:48 PM
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I didn't. People shouldn't feel like they have to perform some weird shit in bed so their loved ones don't go to strip clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:19 PM
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Sex isn't a performance. Focusing on doing these porny acts makes it really hard to feel pleasure. So I don't see why would I pretend to be a porn star if it would make me impossible to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 04:25 PM
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Then you should have vetted for that and not someone who would be thirsty enough to wait 3 months. But how can I do it without getting to know him first? You filter if he is serious about you and a good guy and sleep with him.You don't need 3 months for that If things go awry ,it happens.There are no risk free strategies in life . But I can't know if he will fall in love with me. Or that I will love him. If I would sleep with him and then he wouldn't love me, than I would loose. He would have hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 01:04 PM
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Like I said he could really like you and still not wait 3 months for it. He couldn't if he wanted me because I don't sleep with men I don't truly love. And I don't wait 3 months as it's not enough to be sure. A man may not fall in love with me if I sleep with him before he loves me. And then what? I'm wasn't looking for a thirsty man. I was looking for someone whp will love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 11:35 AM
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He had opitions, he dated a girl when he met me. I would be hurt and loose so much if I slept with him earlier. He knew that and he decided to wait. Because he wasn't a dick. Man that doesn't care about a woman and needs to have sex with her without real feelings is not high value. He is just a fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 11:26 AM
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But he is attractive. He just doesn't think with his dick. He would hurt me if he slept with me and then didn't fall in love with me. And he knew that I need love for sex, no exeptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 11:21 AM
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I also traveled half the world and none of the women I met were desperate to find a man. But I've met three guys in Vietnam who traveled from Europe and the US to find a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 08:15 AM
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Not true. My fiance waited half a yeat for me. He knew that I have to be sure that he loves me to have sex. No sex before love. My ex boyfriend waited almost a year. I could loose a lot if I slept with him first and then we wouldn't fall in love with each other. Yes, some guys I dated turned out to be fuckboys and didn't want to wait. So I would just stop dating them, not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 07:32 AM
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You wouldn't lick pussy of a woman you find repulsive, so you should accept that women will not fuck men who they find repulsive. It doesn't matter if there is more women who don't want to sleep with men than men who won't sleep with women. We can't change how women feel and we can't force them. Average men is attracted to an average woman, but an average woman isnt attracted to an average man. Not true. Average man can easily find a relationship. All my male friends who are not ugly or repulsiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 05:39 AM
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The thing is, if he had all that from the beginning, he wouldnt have became that way he is now. Fundamentally all men want to be their girlfriends chad. Sure they may not be tall, but all want to have muscles and have their girl salivate all over them when they do an incline dumbbell bench press. Oh please. Some people (men and women) are just bitter and angry all the time, starting from high school. Some belive that they are better than others, or that their hobbies are better than others. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 09:46 PM
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Dude. Would you lick a pussy of a woman who you find repulsive? Serious question. If not, then why would women force themselves to start dating and sleeping with guys they find unatractive? Do you think it would be fair for these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:22 PM
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Someone who doesn't care about himself, is rude, criticises everything and plays video games all the time doesn't deserve a lovely woman. Maybe forcing women to sleep with such men could improve these men's lifes, but at the same time it would destroy lifes of their female partners. I could never be happy with someone who criticises me all the time, plays PS all weekend, doesn't take effort to look decent and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 07:17 PM
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Honestly, I have never been turned on by someone's appereance. Even when I had crush on a guy and couldn't stop thinking about him, I didn't feel the need to have sex. I get turned on by spending time with someone, my fiance kisses my neck and ears when he wants to make me excited. Male body doesn't excite me at all. I can see when it's nice but it can never make me horny. To be honest, I couldn't undersand all these movies or books, where lead characters would fuck each other without even talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 06:38 PM
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Bullshit, penis doesn't matter. Of course a man should have one but fot most women they don't do the trick during sex. Clit is where our pleasure is, use your tounge. Biger penis might look better, but usually that's it. Milions of women literally don't care too much about penetration. It's more mental thing than psychical for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:44 PM
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I live in Poland. And od course you can find a job. You just have to try and work hard for it. My father didn't feel like doing it because he wanted something "nobel". Or had other stupid reasons for starting drinking and being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:24 PM
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That's why I would never ever agree on being a SAHM. I live in Poland and it's not even a thing, women usually come back to work. It's better for them and safer. I don't know a mother who doesn't work full time or doesn't own a small buisness. It's just a common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:22 PM
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I don't care, he could have just find another job. Feeling bad is not an excuse for abusing your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:00 PM
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If that's the truth in yours country then it should be stopped. No argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:36 PM
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Oh no, I think that the husband should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:30 PM
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Yeah, both parents should have this right. But only during pregnancy or just after the baby was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:10 PM
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He wasn't the only person supporiting our family. My mom had a job and at that time was starting her own buisness. They literally contributed equally plus we lived in my mothers house.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:07 PM
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A parent has to pay for his child. We could monitor it to make sure that all the money go straight to the child, not for mothers needs (in non violent situations). If he doesn't want to pay, than he should have full or half of the custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:30 PM
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As far as I'm against welfare in general, women should always have an option of leaving their abusive husbands. You can never really know what he will be like in the future. My father was a great guy until he lost his job and started drinking. He became a monster. Leaving him was fucking justified and just a good thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 12:37 PM
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We all are a result of our circumstances. Had you gotten not-so-good genes and had you been bullied your whole life, your personality too would be "repulsive" because hostility by others is the norm in your life, or at best, indifference, but never positives. So? Doesn't matter why is he like this. I wouldn't want to kiss a repulsive man, period. And I don't blame other women who want someone who takes care of himself. Women want to fall in love. And we fall in love with someone who we find attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:43 PM
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So what do you suggest? He is awful, rude and repulsive. His situation is his fault. I'm not going to pity someone who is rude and hates everything and everyone. Why would any girl sleep with him? Why his well being would be more important then hers? Would you kiss someone who is disgusting? I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:13 PM
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You only produce sperm. We have eggs, that's an eqivalent of producing sperm. And sperm is not more important than our eggs, at all. We grow inside the whole human. Life begins in our bodies, sperm and eggs are only substracts. You have some seeds, that's it. Again, we have eggs (50%), you have sperm (another 50%). In addition to that we grow, feed and protect the baby inside our bodies. Much, much more important than producing sperm or being stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:09 AM
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Our bodies can grow a whole human. It's much cooler than being stronger. And definitely more important. And women aren't that weak. I'm strong enough to live comfortably without having to ask for help with heavy things. Being stronger isn't anything special that men bring to relationship. Women are made of paper
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 07:01 AM
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Yeah, but I wouldn't be this girl's fault. I have a colleague at work who is a 27 years old, as you said, kissles virgin. And honestly, I'm not surprised. He hugged me and other girls couple of times "just to say goodbye" and I still feel disgusted while thinking about it. He eats crap, he is rude, talks shit about other people, criticises everyone and everything. He has double chin and is chubby, but it doesn't stop him from laughing at outfits of people he doesn't like. I mean, some men just c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 10:24 PM
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To be honest, it's hard not to do it. I feel safer and more comfortable in the moment, when I know that soon I will just block them and never hear from them again. I just get stressed when someone approaches me. I did promise to myself that next time I would say no and go away but I just can't, I freeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 08:03 PM
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I manage to work full time, practice foreign language skills, have my hobbies, play in the band, be in a relationship AND have fun. Just because I party from time to time it doesn't mean, that I don't do anything productive. And It's not like only woman should adjust to man's lifestyle. He should try to do the same as well for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:55 PM
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I can't do it. I kind of freeze and don't know how to behave when someone approaches me. I feel saver when I pretend that i'm just interested. Then I just ghost them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:46 PM
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Being approached on the street or in other public places is awkward and makes me feel uncomfortable. Doesn't really matter who the guy is. I was yelled at for not wanting to give my number, so now I just pretend that I'm interested, give them this stupid number or agree on meeting in the same place the next day. And then ghost them as soon as they text me or never show up. Even saying that I'm in a relationship doesn't always work, and saying "no" makes me feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:23 PM
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Protection from what? I don't need his strengths on daily basis. I honestly don't remember when I needed it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:12 AM
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It's the same with men. They can't give me anything I can't get myself. I love my man, but I could easily live alone if I had to. And he could live without me. We choose to be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:04 AM
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I can just block them and never give them an aswer. Works. Men don't even care when I say that i'm engaged, they can get pushy. So I feel more save this way. I don't want to give them a fake number, as they might call me imediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:28 PM
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But men get angry even when we politely reject them. I was called something similar to "stupid bitch" (it was in polish) when I refused to give my number to a guy on the market square. I was nice and I smiled, it wasn't a mean rejection. After this situation I would always give them my number, I just never texted them back or answered their calls. I just block their numbers as soon as they contact me. This way I can avoid being called a slut for just walking through my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 11:27 AM
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Of course. That's how my mam got me. He is kind and loving, not some redpill asshole. Porn isn't the norm, luckily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:17 AM
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Then it's just normal relationship where no one has to be submissive or a women doesn't have to defer to her husband. Nothing "redpill" about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:15 AM
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I don't always have the last word in my relationship. And my man also doesn't always have the last word. Sometimes we go my way, sometimes his. None of us is submissive, we are just decent people who care. And we don't play some stupid power games.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:42 AM
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Isn't it the point od being submissive, that I would have to listen to him and he would always have the last word? Or that I have to "enter his frame"? And how can I say what will he want in ten years? If I let him be my boss and decide about everything, I loose the chance to do things for myself, and there is a risk that he will not choose things the way I want. It's better if we switch or decide together. And that's what we do. Last year he decided where to go, two years ago it was my decision…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:34 PM
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If he has the last word that means, that his opinions are worth more. I have read many times about relationships according to redpill or extreme conservatives. One of them side, even on PPP if I remember correctly, that he would only go to places that he likes, not to places that his woman likes. Or that woman should agree on every sexual act, even if it's painful. That women at the end of the day should listen to her husband. That she should "enter his frame" and do as he wishes (which makes hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:05 PM
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Sorry, what I meant was that redpill women's teachings encourage being a doormat, not that you specificaly said that. I hope that you have a good life as well :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:40 PM
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I just wanted to say, that i'm not masculine. Just because I'm mit lost in this big, big world and have my opinions doesn't mean, that I'm masculine. I don't have to agree submissive to be a real woman. My man is not a soyboy (whatever that means) and is not weak either. My point was more that what redpill women teach is not a good tactic for me, or for any women I know. I do see it as a doormat school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:36 PM
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Have you ever heard what redpill men say? They focus on puting women into submissive position. They talk about how men should develope his skills and passions, but woman should just be a submissive cutie piw deffering to his every need. How women should agree, or even be forced, to every sexual act a man want (even if it's painful). Once I read a post here, where a guy said that he would only agree on going to places that he likes, and his women would have to agree on it without a question. I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:18 PM
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Or I can just refuse to be submissive and be my own person in my marrige, where my opinions and desires are as important as his. Being free to have my own interests, opinions and dreams is normal, I shouldn't have to discuss it before getting married or entering relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:40 PM
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But a man who doesn't let me decide, or have my own hobbies (not necessarily traditionallly feminine) and by my own person can't be high value. Frame is something that every adult should have. I used to write my own story, my fiance had his. Now we write our stories together, i'm not just some second plan character. That's how I see IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:35 PM
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I didn't keep them because I didn't feel the need for that. But I read a lot of rpw and there is a lot of posts like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:47 PM
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I have seen the side bar but it's still the same ideology. I don't see rpw as a good tactic. I'm not submissive and I still got a great fiance who adores me. He respects my interests, my autonomy and I don't have to defer to him to have his love and support. I don't see the reason for being submissive. Why would I want that? I don't want to ask if it's ok if I choose a holiday destination this time. Or if it's ok if I go out with my girlfriends. I don't want to agree on anal or practice deepthro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:45 PM
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I have. I've seen a post where one of them was writing how women should please her man by e.x. blowing him or buying dildo to practice deep throat, but at the same time shouldn't expect him to go down on her or shouldn't seem unsatisfied if she didn't orgasm. I saw posts from women who had abusive boyfriends or husbands. Most od the replies didn't encourage her to leave this psycho, but gave some doormat advices about how she could keep him. Even here I saw a post from rpw saying, that she has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:30 PM
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I want to be able to have my own hobbies and activities (not necessarily traditionallly feminine) without asking my man for consent and money. I want to be able to choose holiday destination, not just hope that he won't choose his favorite place third year in a row. I don't want to have to have to agree on every sex acts he wants, and not being able to ask him to please me in return. Yes, I saw posts saying that woman shouldn't ask her man to do something, shouldn't let him know that she didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:27 PM
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Bullshit. My father is leftist, my mom is on the right. She never shifted a bit. Women hold often strong political views, they just don't need a guru to tell them what to belive. But men usually do, at least to in Poland. They are ready to defend their "alpha politicians" by any cost. They become groupuies for them. There is this guy called Janusz Korwin-Mikke and men are obsessed with him. Same with two other politicians. Women are just more reserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 02:19 PM
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Definitely not, alt right men are awful and cringy. And I would not want to be treated the way they say they treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 02:13 PM
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Exactly. I never considered my work, education or hobbies as something that should attract men. I just wanted to do all these things for myself and also to be able to pay for my guitars, classes, bills, food etc. Men got it completely wrong. I don't care if they can't fuck my diploma, it's not what I got it for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 09:36 PM
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You don't LET him? Because that sounds like he wants to and you arent allowing him. Are you saying you don't demand it of him? Because that makes more sense. Well, he tries sometimes. But the thing is, I hate performing oral. So it wouldn't be fair If I expected him to go down on me. And I'm fine without it, so it's not a big deal. About the pain, for me it's always suffering. I can't imagine seeing pain as something pleasant. For me any type of suffering or discomfort in bed is out of a questio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 10:57 PM
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Sure, I just wanted to explain why sex isn't really special or pleasant for many women (because there are posts above saying that we get crazy from it). The act itself (penetration) doesn't really do much for us. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:32 PM
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To be honest, when it comes to sex it is tit for tat for me. I mean, If he wants to do something that will cause me pain, then he has to be willing to be in pain as well. Otherwise he would just be using me. Well, he still would be using me but at least IT would be fair. But in general I don't think that it's ok to ask me for some painful or degrading acts. Just because it's sex doesn't make it suddenly ok for me. I would never do anything painful to him for my plesasure. I don't even let him ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:29 PM
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Well, sure, but it doesn't mean that she came from penetration but from masturbation that took place during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:22 PM
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Well, I don't want to feel pain especially when he doesn't have to feel pain. Why should I? I don't want to be treated like that and I will never consider doing it. It's just not something I want. I love him, but he is not better than me and I shouldn't feel pain when he never has to feel pain himself during sex. And I don't want to be abused for his plesasure. I never abuse him for my pleasure. For me kinky sex is unfair. But I undersand that everyone is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 08:51 PM
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I may have chosen a wrong wor, I see that now. What I meant was that vaginal penetration isn't a way to orgasm for most women. We can feel the need to be penetrated but it's very often to an orgasmic experience. And it's not because we don't have sex with some Chad, it's because we usually need clitoral stimulation. And men should remember about it id they want their partner to orgasm. The thing with kinky sex is that I see is as mostly degrading or harmful to women. I have heard too many times …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 08:03 PM
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Yes, it's a typo. Thank you for pointing it out :) Just changed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:32 PM
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Vaginas are numb for many women compared to clit. I have heard many times women saying that penetration feels like licking the inside of your cheek. And for me it feels like stroking my arm. I feel everything, it's just not pleasure. Women who can orgasm with their vaginas are in minority. Most of us need clitoral stimulation to feel at least some pleasure. I'm sorry that you were raped. I hoped that you managed to heal. And that your rapist will die in pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:59 PM
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Most women don't orgasm from penetration. You are lucky. Vaginas usually are numb compared to clit. Penetration gives me nothing, no matter If I masturbate or do it with a man. And it's not only me, even hete many women said that they need clitoral stimulation to cum. Clit is usually the organ that gives us pleasure. You are just lucky, maybe yours g spot is more sensitive. I don't have a g spot at all (I mean, it's not sensitive). And personally I don't know a woman who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:41 PM
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Of course they are compared to clitoris. They is some feeling but not too much, as there is not enough nerve endings. Clit is an organ that is suppoused to give us pleasure. It's normal. Vagina is not the same as penis and doesn't give as as much pleasure as penis gives to you. We have our clits for that. Haven't you heard that we need clitoral stimulation to orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:27 PM
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Oh please. I also moan and shake, do eyes rolling and grab his ass, and beg him to go harder or to cum inside me during penetration, even thought it doesn't give me pleasure. Only clitoral stimulation does. Vaginas are numb and most women don't get crazy during penetrative sex. Eating pussy or fingering do the trick for us. It's a simple anatomy, clitoris is an eqivalent of penis in woman's body, not vagina. Houndrets of Chads won't change that. Most women don't orgasm from penetration. It's a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:33 PM
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Of course it's possible. I've been in love, felt butterflies in my stomach, couldn't think about anything but this guy and still didn't feel horny. I had it every time I was crazy about someone. I just never feel horny on daily basis. My man has to kiss me, touch me and whisper things to my ear to put me in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:37 AM
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Too horny or obsessed about sex. I had guys whou would tell me that they want to fuck me till I can't walk on my first day. Once a guy told me that I should blow him (I was a virgin!) so I could learn how to do it to please my future boyfriend. Bleh. I would imediately ghost them Other than that, creepy guys, "energy vampires" wanting to know my every move. And don't get me started about lack of higiene or proper outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:12 AM
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I always knew that his number can't be too high. Mostly because of the fact, that he could have urge to cheat after a while. Now I'm sure about it. Men can develope some weird kinks and habbits during sex, especially if his former partner was into them. So it's better to be with someone who do didn't sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:35 AM
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Exactly. For many women it's a challenge to enjoy sex. We have to learn it and it very often takes a lot of time. Plus, women who don't have too many partners might simply not be interested in experimenting too much. I had only two sexual partners by choice, both in long term relationship. And I know that I will never try many things, like anal or bondage or whatever. I have never really been interested in these kinds of stuff and I will never agree on them. So if a guy wants to have some weird,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 08:33 PM
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Well, sure, they can hate as much as they want. Just shouldn't expect me to care about them and their problems with finding a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:52 PM
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You are free to express hate and society will accept you for doing so if you belong to the right group. Yeah, if my hate is justified. But if I would walk around saying that certain group of people should be raped and enslaved just because they are men than yes, I would be condemned. You do you. I know I will not hate a man for expressing their feelings. Even if those feelings are ugly. I condemn them for saying that half of the human population should be forced to fuck them, should have no righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:34 PM
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Women don't opress incels. Not having sex with someone is not opression. And I refuse to care about incels if all I hear from them is how women should be forced to have sex with every guy who needs it, or how rape is ok, or how women are worse kind of a human. And don't tell me that they don't think like that, I've read their forums where they can express their thougths freely. I don't care if it's"angry stage" or whatever. The moment they says that I don't deserve to be treated like a normal hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:23 AM
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I'm not a traditional woman at all but I don't see why a "traditional one" would like cooking instead of treating it as just another responsibility. I cook mu meals as quickly as possible, and usually just eat salads or drink smoothies all day long. It's healthier this wau and I don't waste my time. I think that a traditional woman could have similar approach, as it could helo her to save some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:25 AM
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No, because not every fantasy should be fulfilled. Especially od it's harmful or uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 08:52 AM
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Why would I have sex if my man didn't want to please me? I give him orgasms, shouldn't he try to give one to me as well? Of course he should Clitoris is an eqivalent of penis, not vagina. We need clit stimulation and it's ok. Sex is not only for men so I don't see why wouldn't we expect men to please us as well. Especially when they get their orgasm from penetration and very often from blowjobs. Penetrative sex is not really pleasurable for women. And if women didn't get other kinds of stimulati…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:47 PM
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I moan and it's not because being penetrated feels good. I moan to set the mood, to not be a "starfish". Most of us shake, moan and scream just to make it better for our partners. Just like someone else wrote eariel, I never feel the need to moan when my man stimulates my clit and when I actually feel good. And stimulating my clit is the only thing that brings me actual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:40 PM
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It doesn't feel good. Vagina doesn't have enough nerve endings. Clitoris is responsible for woman's pleasure and it's clitoris that should be stimulated to give us an orgasm. Clit is an eqivalent of penis in woman's body. For me penetration is just ok. But I don't need it, I do it only for my man's pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:36 PM
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I don't like performing blowjobs so why would I expect him to do oral for me? And oral that's quite extreme? And I wouldn't want someone to sit on my face either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:09 PM
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Of course. I have a fantasy about sitting on my man's face but I would never want to do in real life. It's normal, fantasy doesn't equal reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:16 PM
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But it's true. I could never undersand why Brad Pitt was considered the sexiest man in the world. For me he looks like a hamster (this small animal). There is a difference between attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:54 PM
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Well, I am. And I'm strongly against these fat acceptance movements. But If you assume that i'm fat because I don't write things you want to hear, it just makes you quite pathetic. You're like sjw special snowflake
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:58 AM
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Well, I just googled her without make up and in my opinion she looks great. Very pretty and natural. I would say that still much better than Zack.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:35 AM
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These guys look usually quite ok FOR THEIR AGE. But not even close as good like young guys. We just find them pathetic because of what they do (which is approaching us when we are younger and have our girls-time). Actual Chad (which is a person that looks actually great) can't be older than twenty-something. So I doubt that you are one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:29 AM
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But he isn't not as cute as he used to be. He looks much worse. His movie partner, Vanessa, is his age and looks much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:19 AM
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True. I'm 26 and all of my male friends from high school look just bad, much worse than they used to. Even the cute one, who was every girls dream back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:16 AM
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We generally don't. Me and my friends call men after 30 "old beetroots" (it sounds better in polish). When we go to a pub for a beer we are very often approached by them and we just make fun of them, nothing more. Our boyfriends or husbands are our age or one to three year older or younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:12 AM
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It's not only my experience. It's a common thing for a lot of us. I wrote before that some women can orgasm from penetration. But most of us don't and it's completely normal. And no handsome Chad could change that. I never had a one night stand, but I wouldn't pretend that I looove being penetrated for a guy that i'm not really attracted to. But I probably would for someone I really like, so maybe that's why men think that women orgasm from Chad's dicks alone. But faking is something that many w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:13 PM
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Sure, attraction is necessary for lovely and passionate sex. Although just because someone is handsome doesn't mean, that I will be arosued. I need something more. I just wanted to point out, that it's normal for women to not orgasm from penetration alone and it doesn't mean that it's because their men aren't chads. I can't even imagine orgasming from piv sex. Yes, we moan and shake to set the mood. But I's very often a performance, not a real thing. Usually touching clit gives us real tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 09:17 PM
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Well, I don't. I have penetrative sex only for my man. But I don't thing it's strange, I have read many times about other women that had the same problem, my friends also need clitoral stimulation to feel actual pleasure. Because tissue inside vagina just isn't as sensitive as clit or penis. NAWALT, but most women don't orgasm from penetration and it's not because they are not having sex with a chad (it's a bullshit read on redpill). It's just anatomicaly impossible for us to cum from it. It's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:04 PM
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Well, to be honest I did the same. I would shake and moan even thought I didn't feel anything. Penetration is not pleasant at all, something like touching my hand. I feel everything it just doesn't feel good. Clitoral stimulation is a must. But we have to fake it, otherwise we would be called boring or starfish. There are some women who cum from penetration, buty most of us don't. Vagina is just numb. Also, sometimes clitoral stimulation gets too intense and is hard to bare. In such cases it's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:50 PM
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Exactly! I could never undersand people saying that they someone so hot they wanted to fuck this person imediately. I never felt anything like that. No matter how handsome they guy would be or how in love I was, I didn't gret horny for him. No matter how well buit his chest or arms were. It just doesn't work like that. Not for me. I need to be kissed and seduced by man man. Otherwise I would never even think about having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:53 PM
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