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Win - win. See RP guys? It does exist!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:50 PM
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Totally. The ‘ick’ is huge. Especially if they’ve done casual sex. It’s just so gross to me. I can find post-hoc rationalisations for it, but just ‘ew’ is the best way I can put it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:56 AM
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It’s funny, rude, badly formed arguments often seem to employ the phrase ‘y’all’. It’s a dead giveaway that engagement is a waste of time. You have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:54 AM
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As I’ve said many times. Men are allowed preferences and standards. These are still allowed even if women don’t like them or agree. And if you don’t let moderates express their opinions, extremists will be the only ones talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:36 AM
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You’re ‘allowed’ to filter in any way you see fit. I think more men should help each other with doing this. There’s a concerted campaign from many quarters to try to tell men the way we feel on these sorts of issues is somehow ‘invalid’ and I’m glad there’s a pushback against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:18 AM
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Absolutely. You’ve had sex before in a loving, committed relationship that didn’t work out? I’m glad you had some good times! Relationships don’t always work out the way we want. I’m not going to ‘keep score’ and hold it against you. OTOH, you were out for the night, got chatted up by some sleazebag in a bar and fucked him? Hard nope for me. Gross 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:50 AM
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N count doesn’t matter so much, but a girl like this, who treats sex with care and consideration, is very attractive to a lot of guys. Myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:16 AM
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I’ve had the opportunity for variety a lot. I’m not bragging, it’s just how it’s been. I’m in good shape, very educated etc etc. I can’t be the only one, I’m decent enough but hardly unique
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:04 PM
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I’ve said it before. According to women, sex is simultaneously ‘utterly meaningless’ when she wants to have a ONS, and she ABSOLUTELY should not be judged for it, and at the same time the most important thing in the world when she wants to be in a relationship, your commitment etc, and infidelity means the end of said relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:59 PM
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I absolutely do think that. Previously they/we couldn’t get it. We had to commit to a woman to get sex. It was the sexual revolution, which was a female movement, that allowed us access to sex without commitment. Whether that serves women? Meh, I couldn’t care less. They made the choices. Nobody asked us whether we wanted our women to be 304s, or cared about our preferences. Enjoy your freedoms!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:17 PM
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Or maybe both points of view are legitimate. And you’re simply so accustomed to the female perspective being prioritised in 21st century discourse that you’ve failed to even consider that the ‘other side’ have things they value that aren’t the same things as women. Bit provocative but I thought I’d finish on a song…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:14 PM
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I think men and women invest different levels of meaning into sex. For men (younger men especially) it’s often the ‘end goal’.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:35 PM
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I think that’s what it is. They get what they call ‘starfish’ sex, while they imagine ‘Chad’ doing all sorts of stuff. Tbf it happens, although not as often as they reckon it does. I think it’s more about attraction. These women (according to TRP) pick the ‘beta’ guy who can provide while she’s raising the kids she wants after having had ‘fun’. They (the ‘beta’ guys) just get what’s leftover. It’s a massive over-simplification of course, but I have seen it happen. Tbf so much of it is just down …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:58 PM
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😂👏 I’d buy that for $20. But seriously, I think OLD has changed the game in ways us old-timers fail to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:28 PM
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I’d have been fine with waiting. I think women were the ones that decoupled sex from commitment. Those used to be the rules. Tbh, this is on women. They wanted to fuck around. Let them bear the consequences. I think abortions, as well as financial abortions should absolutely be legitimate. The bible was written waaaay to long ago to be a useful reference in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:26 PM
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<cough>womenareliars<cough>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:23 PM
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Honestly I think sex is just different between people, and ‘best’ doesn’t necessarily even make sense anyway. I’ve just read a fair bit of TRP stuff and I am trying to articulate where they’re coming from. I think a lot of TRP guys are the guys that really did get settled for by women when they wanted babies. It does happen, I’ve seen it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 07:07 PM
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I wonder if it’s got something to do with the compromise we have to make in a LTR. I think it hits us (men) harder than women. We crave variety and we have to give that up, in order to be faithful to one woman. That’s much more difficult to do if she’s devalued sex to the point of ‘I’ll do this with a guy I just met in a bar’. I’m not sure it’s insecurity as much as it is frustration. Have you been in a LTR? If you don’t mind me asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:56 PM
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Dude, check out the average number of sexual partners an average American woman has had before 25. Also, why are you using the word ‘slut’?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:50 PM
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She’s had better sex, with hotter guys that turned her on in a way you don’t. She’s not attracted to you in the same way as she was those guys. You’re the ‘safe’ choice. She’s with you because you provide financial resources while she dials down her career to have kids. Tbf there’s a heck of a lot of truth in there. I’ve seen it happen an awful lot to buddies of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:46 PM
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I think TRP is a response to modern women being promiscuous in their 20s, then wanting babies and picking some average guy to fund that. I think it’s a post-hoc rationalisation for that instinctive sense of disgust we feel when we learn the woman we pledge our lives to has been with other men, physically. Most men feel it, just in different intensities. It must be even worse to feel as though you weren’t even her best, let alone not her only. I feel really bad for those guys. I understand why th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:32 PM
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It’s also worth noting that modern jobs have expanded beyond all sense of what might be called reasonable as well. There’s a reason women don’t work as hard - they’re often picking up the family work that needs to be done. I work from 5am until around 8pm and I’m far from abnormal. That doesn’t leave time for much else. It’s not all the fault of women, there are many factors in play.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 02:07 PM
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We did things in a different way to women. We had male-only spaces. We were allowed to ‘be’ in a different way. They systemically set about destroying them. And now we have virtually no spaces where we can go, away from women. Women kept their spaces, both formal and informal. It’s hard to think of a better illustration of the double standard.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 02:01 PM
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There’s only ‘body positivity’ for women, and even then it’s only other women that are promoting it. No guys want to fuck the land whale, no matter how much women tell us that our sexual desires are due to ‘socialisation’. I’m sorry for your experiences, that must be really tough. But maybe put your face up there in the first instance. Then you will only get matches from women that consider you ‘ok’. You might be fine, just not their type, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:25 PM
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Gosh that’s a good point 😂👏
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:01 AM
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I’m perfectly happy with the ‘kindergarten teacher’ (not quite but an equivalent). She’s sweet, warm, caring, a nice person and we have a brilliant chemistry together. She’ll make a great mom. She’s no dumbass, not by a long stretch. But yeah, there’s a (small) intellectual gap. I don’t think I could be with a truly dumb person. I think we value different things in different people. I’d never consider it ‘dating down’. American dating culture seems incredibly transactional tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 05:07 AM
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I’ve had LOADS of platonic female friends. I’m pretty emotionally intelligent, and appreciate friends who are as well. I don’t always get that from my male friends tbh. I’ve no interest in sleeping with any of them. Maybe it’s because I’m a bit older. The world seems to be a strange place according to Reddit. I’m not sure I recognise a lot of the stuff that’s discussed here in the ‘real world’ tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:31 PM
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If you see the weasel word ‘equity’, it basically means ‘tilting the decks in favour of the groups of people we care about’
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:18 AM
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Exactly. It’s just so, so disingenuous. And because we live in a world of headlines, we absorb the ‘pay gap’ myth via osmosis.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:17 AM
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‘More’ = ‘every hour that God sends’. Women as a group just don’t do this. Why would you? You don’t really need this status to attract a mate in the same way we (men) do. We’ll (as a group) ‘marry the secretary’. Maybe if women dropped hypergamy as a mating strategy men would also change, and ease up on gaining status etc. But given that nobody in 2022 is allowed to question any of the implications of female behaviour, I guess nothing will happen.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 05:26 AM
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Of course. I also don’t want to just be told I’m right, and that people agree. I agree there’s a lot of lazy misogyny floating around as well, so it’s all fair.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:33 PM
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Because you read the article. Most won’t. It’s a classic misrepresentation. I’m seeing it a lot. The headline implies one thing, and actually (as you’ve rightly observed) the reality is very different. We’ve seen this disingenuous talk a lot on the ‘pay gap’. I’m not sure I’m encouraging a ‘circle jerk’ as much as I am pointing out that, once again, we are swimming against a tide of misinformation.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 04:42 PM
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What about age? Even women that really look after themselves age way worse than men that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:38 PM
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“Startups currently are not rewarded for building equitable workplaces, only for having a viable product for investors to invest in.” Uh-huh.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:35 PM
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I mean, we live in a world in which gender studies is an academic subject. Evo Pysch isn’t without its flaws but bloody hell, it’s practically physics compared to that garbage. The problem is, a lot of its findings might lead to politically inconvenient conclusions. Academia isn’t as corrupted as some might have you believe, but it’s not doing great right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:36 PM
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Been there, done that. It’s lonely. It feels like part of you isn’t truly alive. I’ve been in enough relationships to know that sensation of being past the honeymoon phase, that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking full-on separate bedrooms, separate lives, communicating only about practical matters etc. It’s ok if you’re both ok with it. Our notions of love are all very personal. And love/romance does take work. I’m not naive. But it’s destructive if you know how it feels, to have the abse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:47 AM
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Yeah, this. Both our left and right are mad in their own ways and create their own set of problems.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:26 PM
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People need jobs. If you force them out of the job they’ve been doing in order to make way for women, they’re going to have to use the skill set they’ve acquired to secure future employment. This whole, ‘let’s get women doing x, right now, with quotas’ never really has an answer to the ‘and the men can go where exactly?’ question
/r/MensRights21/10/22 10:15 AM
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Eloquently put. 👏
/r/MensRights18/10/22 04:34 PM
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Heretic! 😂Just kidding, but you’ve just outlined the position of ‘equality’ (of opportunity). That isn’t good enough for our social engineers, who demand ‘equity’ (equality of outcome). Agree with the rest of what you say entirely, btw
/r/MensRights18/10/22 04:25 PM
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The greater male variability hypothesis indeed. It is, however, still a hypothesis. I imagine, like just about everything else, there’s a degree of nature and nurture involved. We are, of course, only allowed to discuss the possibility of the latter. The first may give rise to some inconvenient conclusions…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 04:18 PM
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I mean, it’s partly why we achieve more as a group. We’re given more direct, critical and honest feedback. You ever tried being as direct to a woman as you’d be to a man? Good luck with that. Ironically, the very thing that might make women better at stuff is the very thing we’re not socially allowed to do.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 01:37 PM
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There is no ‘ideal female body’. We like you a LOT more (visually) than you like us. In all your different shapes and sizes. I do (respectfully) think you’re a minority. Most women aren’t on anti-depressants and going to the gym 6 days a week. The vast majority of women can find loads of men that will find her attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:04 PM
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I have read this three times now. It’s why I’m here. To gain an appreciation of the female POV. I would say all a woman needs to do is to not be fat. That’s enough to get tonnes of interest, especially if you’re doing OLD. ‘Fuck all food’ just means ‘don’t overeat’. Nobody’s pressuring you ladies to juice. You go on OLD and even if you’re bang average your cup runneth over. I think ‘genetic predisposition’ is a red herring tbh. There are some people that are cursed, but it’s a vanishingly small …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:46 PM
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Couldn’t disagree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:01 PM
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Self-proclaimed? No. But I do what I can to help. What do you do to make the world better?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:50 PM
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I dunno man. This isn’t a science 😂 Maybe I imagined it. Maybe I just feel better about myself and radiate more confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:45 PM
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Sure about the brackets? 😂😂 Shame…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:18 PM
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This is indeed a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. It’s like hearing the whinges of ‘feminist’ film stars about how they have to watch what they eat and do some training. Then you compare to the absolute beast workouts (plus ‘roids/gear/juice) that the guys have to put themselves through to be the stars of said movies and you just laugh/eye roll. But that’s being a man. Them’s the breaks. Suck it up. We have to work harder. Women have to work harder in other areas of life. We’re not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:56 PM
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Absolutely. It’s the first piece of advice I give to younger men who come to me for guidance on women. Hit. The. Gym. You think women don’t notice? Hell yeah they notice. I’ve gotten down to around 10% BF recently (I go between about 10 and 15 %) and a bunch of ladies had a second look last night. And I’m only slightly above average in terms of looks at best. You don’t need to be the ‘top 10%’ or any of that rubbish. Have a decent personality, something to talk about, be in semi-decent shape, ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:03 PM
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I know ‘drinking’ was a typo but I’m crying laughing at that 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:27 PM
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I actually don’t mind either way. I’ve been with lots, and crucially, had several long-term relationships. I think you have to learn how to please a woman in a LTR, you can’t get away with sucking (excuse the pun). I don’t mind sexual inexperience, or sexual experience. I usually find that, even with inexperienced girls, once the first month or so is done, it’s generally good (or not). You might have to do a little more hand-holding at the outset, but after that it’s fine. Fill someone with conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:22 PM
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Women in the 3rd world should submit to sexual and economic slavery to me, a man who’s incapable of attracting a woman on my own terms, rather than starve? Did I read this correctly? Disabled people of course have the ‘right’ to be loved, but you need to convince someone to love you. Nobody is loved unconditionally. I’m truly sorry about your disability, but nobody owes you sex, or a relationship. Also, would you REALLY want someone to be with you because it was that or starve? Really? I can’t i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:21 PM
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Treated by society at large. Also I’m sorry for your experience. That’s a terrible message to receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:52 PM
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Ok. That’s interesting. Why don’t you think men are capable of self-love? Do you think that might have something to do with how we’re treated? We’re generally expendable, ‘lesser’ (than women) and generally worth-less (not worthless). And I agree, we value physical intimacy/sex massively. It confers value and status and self-belief. This is probably part biology, part socialisation. Thanks for responding in a civilised way, btw. I admit I expected something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:47 PM
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Here’s an idea. I mean this sincerely. Why don’t you challenge that belief a bit? To yourself. Are there mediocre white women as well? These derogatory phrases like the ones you’re using have entered the lexicon and they’re mainly derogatory in only one direction. I doubt you will, and you’ll be back to use words like ‘mansplain’ etc. But let’s see if we can’t see a bit of each others’ points of view eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:58 PM
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I don’t attack anyone, nor consume that sort of content. In fact ‘L’s’ was a new term to me. Just in case that wasn’t clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:25 PM
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No, but I’ll check it out! Thank you 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:20 PM
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It’s being done on an industrial scale, backed by most mainstream media organisations and there’s absolutely a narrative being pushed. That’s also happening in a climate which is becoming increasingly hostile to men, and I think younger men are struggling to find their way. I do a lot of mentoring of younger guys, and I listen. I’m just telling you/sharing a lot of what I hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:20 PM
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No, I said ‘some’ of them are boring. Definitely not all. I guess the point I was trying to make is that, if you have things in common with a woman, that can transcend age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:18 PM
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It’s relentless, one-sided, unrealistic and propagandising. It’s also being done in a climate which is really not helping younger men find a positive identity for themselves, in fact there’s an awful lot of messaging that comes close to demonising. It’s my analysis, take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:15 PM
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Wall to wall ‘aren’t women great?’ is definitely annoying. Any propaganda is. Compare and contrast to the negative messages being directed toward men. I’m not surprised some of them are reacting in this way. I’ve been banging this drum for ages. Telling men they’re shit over and over while constantly extolling the virtues of women is going to have some nasty side effects. That scumbag Andrew Tate is cleaning up, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:09 PM
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Isn’t it something of a reaction to the relentless, irritating, perpetual ‘you go girl/this girl can/women are wonderful’ narrative we get fed by the mainstream media?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:03 PM
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Sure, there’s more to life than looks. Agree entirely. But this is a romantic relationship, so it’s fair to say they’re relatively important. I’m not sure why being 5 years older than someone suddenly means you’re incapable of having any conversational common ground. I’ve got more in common with the 20 year olds that are interested in the same hobbies and activities as me, and much more in common, than many of the (actually quite boring) older women I dated. I’m not particularly fixated on ‘youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:48 PM
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This really isn’t complex. Younger women are MUCH more attractive than older ones. Just because it pisses older women off, doesn’t mean it’s not true. Young = hot, generally. It doesn’t help that western women (and men Tbf) have shitty diets and sedentary lifestyles that mean that most people are overweight. I’d much prefer a slender older woman than a fat younger one. It’s got very little to do with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:43 AM
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Yup. I think men are having their own sexual ‘realisation’. In response to the sexual revolution. We don’t get to marry chaste virgins anymore. That’s fine, society changes. Women wanted to be more free. And that’s had it’s advantages Tbf. Well, guess what, so do we! And monogamy, especially with a woman that doesn’t want to fuck you, is boooooring. So I think we’re going to see society change again. I for one won’t put up with being denied sex by a woman who’s fucked guys she literally met in a…
/r/MensRights11/10/22 08:19 PM
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Esther Perrell et al are trying to normalise female infidelity. I mean, let them do whatever. She’s already fucked a bunch of guys, who cares if she does it while we’re married? It’s not special anyway, otherwise you’d save it. It wouldn’t be something you do like a game of tennis. Just let us do the same. Let’s normalise it. You can still have a relationship with someone and it doesn’t have to be sexually exclusive. Why is that of significant import, now we’ve designated sex a form of entertain…
/r/MensRights11/10/22 07:22 PM
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The ‘Good Men Project’ is essentially a bunch of male feminists encouraging other men to allow women to treat them like shit. Avoid.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 06:58 PM
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Society is in such a funny place regarding sex at the moment, and I think it’s largely due to female doublethink. Women want the freedom to be able to sleep around like men traditionally did, but what they truly crave is commitment (generally speaking). So sex has to be (when women find it convenient) simultaneously ‘no big deal’ and ‘meaningless’ (when she’s discussing her previous one night stands in which she was happy to go to bed with someone she just met) but then somehow magically ‘specia…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:28 PM
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‘You’re just giving them what they want’. Yeah. Yeah, you are. That’s kinda how this whole thing works. You absolutely need to care about what the other sex thinks of you if you want to be in a relationship with them. This goes both ways. It’s actually a bit sad. I don’t think she really hates men, she just hates the situation she’s in. But weight is (relatively speaking) one of those things that can be controlled (yes yes, there are outliers with various health conditions but this lady isn’t on…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/10/22 06:05 AM
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Thanks. Typo.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 01:56 PM
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A bit of both. When you’re trying to provide for a family and you get passed over for promotion again and again, and you miss out on significant career development milestones and people are explicitly telling you ‘it’s nothing you’re doing wrong, you’re doing great but we need to fix our gender imbalance’ it hits hard. My family needed that money - I’d worked my ass off and done my best. It wasn’t that the woman that got promoted over me was useless - far from it, she was great and I bear her no…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:46 PM
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Feminist mothers of sons have a really interesting point of view. They’re suddenly watching the struggles of a man they care deeply about. It’s a lightbulb moment. I think we’re all well aware of the struggles of women (how could we not be, there’s wall to wall coverage of them?). Kristina Hoff-Sommers is worth a read. Your reaction is to ‘bristle’ at the idea that men could have any issues and that’s normal. Most male struggle is treated with hostility or outright contempt by society. I think i…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:01 PM
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Tbh, she’s a SJW moron, and utterly boring, but this is also on men as well. We forgive these tedious, vacuous, nothing-to-offer empty vessels way more than they deserve just to get a crumb of pussy. It’s pathetic, it demeans us and facilitates them being like this. Is there a name for this high-handed, patronising condescension that these SJWs practice, btw? It’s very much a playbook. They all sound the same.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/22 05:24 AM
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Yup. If they concede that we’re not the same, then they have to accept that outcomes may be different. They simply can’t accept that. It’s like Pinker never even wrote The Blank Slate. We’re (societally) utterly locked into the ‘socialisation’ narrative. It’s one of the greatest errors of our times, and is the cause of so much social strife. Men and women are almost certainly not the same. The earth is not flat. What’s concerning is that we’re seeing flat earth (to continue the analogy) promoted…
/r/MensRights24/09/22 02:00 PM
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Yes, you’re right. If they won’t let us have formal spaces we have to make them informally. The problem with teams is that you’d almost certainly have to admit women. Then the dynamic changes.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 04:49 AM
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This is such a great point. Treating men as defective women is always going to mean we don’t measure up. There’s a tranche of men that have feminised themselves and that’s fine. It’s not for everyone though, and those of us who are more ‘masculine’ need outlets, and ways to relate to each other that they simply have no interest in understanding.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 04:22 PM
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They quite literally took all our spaces for bonding away. Any place that we had to be together away from the pressures of women has been systematically targeted and been either removed or forced to become ‘inclusive’. This being Vox, I’m only surprised they didn’t make the article all about the negative effects of this on women. Also PMSL, they’re obsessed with this ‘socialisation’ bollocks aren’t they? They simply can’t accept that we may be different because then the floodgates open - if we’r…
/r/MensRights21/09/22 12:11 PM
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Yeah, TDS got a lot of people. I really wasn’t a fan but so many people I know just lost their minds. Sorry about your situation, that sucks
/r/MensRights20/09/22 02:54 PM
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I have a fair few friends who are very weak. They typically married feminist women who are very dominant. I guess it works for them at some level. I find it a shame, as they have been greatly diminished as people. They’re boring, their opinions are so predictable I don’t even need to talk to them to know what they will think about any given issue. But what can you do?
/r/MensRights20/09/22 01:55 PM
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She’s really pretty, it’s kind of a shame. ‘Bad boys’. Honestly, I feel a girl like this had the option to play life on easy mode, and chucked it all away. But some guy will accept the duty sex. He’ll pay for her stuff, and her kid. So it’s not that much of a shame. They land on their feet a lot more than guys, that’s for sure.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/22 02:52 PM
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I used to consider myself a liberal leftist. I’ve watched as it’s become steadily disconnected from reality and become incredibly authoritarian. So many things I hold dear (free speech, discourse, dissent etc) have been jettisoned in favour of a hugely intolerant approach to those who might dare to think differently or even ask challenging questions. It’s actually really sad. The right is no place for me, their economics have caused so much unnecessary inequality and I’m not in favour of that ei…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 08:03 AM
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And probably colonialist as well…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/22 05:05 PM
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Yeah, definitely, although the west will probably be overtaken if it collapses any further into actively retarding its own development. So science etc will progress but it won’t be the west at the forefront of any of it. It’ll be places that maintain merit-based hiring practices.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 04:50 PM
1

Equality of opportunity isn’t enough now. In the year of Our Kendi 2022, not being ‘anti-racist’ (Kendi details the level of self-flagellation necessary in order to be an anti-racist) is essentially the same being a KKK member. Similarly, if you’re not in favour of tilting the decks overwhelmingly in favour of groups deemed ‘worthy’ (we all understand the intersectional pyramid well enough to know who these groups are instinctively now) then you’re essentially a basement-dwelling troglodyte who …
/r/MensRights16/09/22 05:52 AM
1

Yeah, like they’re starting to question whether the sexual revolution really empowered them in the way they wanted, so we might go back to our women not being easier to get into bed than a hot water bottle. But that will have had nothing to do with any male preference for not wanting promiscuous women, it’ll be because they don’t think it’s serving their interests.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 08:33 PM
6

Brilliant summation. You’re spot-on
/r/MensRights15/09/22 07:20 PM
1

Sorry, you’re right - I was kind of summing up her conclusions. She does address it, but even people who acknowledge the problem only ever seem to be able to do so in a ‘men die in wars: women most affected’ kind of a way.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 07:16 PM
1

This was a very sad read. Basically, because there’s no discussion of class/socio-economics in our intersectional model, there’s absolutely no societal bandwidth given over to the plight of working class men. They’re men, so by definition they must be doing great. Women just don’t seem to be able to give a shit about them. And they’re in charge now. Those affluent women see those men as barely human.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 06:15 PM
1

Absolutely. While it wasn’t perfect by ANY means, there was a societal duty to look after women. Now they’re in charge, it seems as though they hate us and want to make our lives as unpleasant as possible in revenge for historical wrongs they personally never suffered.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:52 PM
4

Women are absolutely equal and identical to men, in every conceivable way, yet also mysteriously ‘better’. Tbh I actually agree with this. Women are (generally) more submissive, conciliatory and collegiate by nature. But that also explains why they don’t win chess tournaments. We’re currently trying to pretend we’re the same. We’re not the same. Once we acknowledge we’re not the same, all else will slot into place much more easily. Until that point, we’re not going to get anywhere close to anyth…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 04:43 PM
1

Imagine all you had to do in order to lead a happy life and have TONNES of options was exercise and eat right? All pretty much completely under your control.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/22 11:58 AM
9

Absolutely. The ONLY reason they’re paying any of this the slightest bit of attention is the crazies that go and shoot up schools. If, say, men were just quietly killing themselves (yes, I know, you don’t have to tell me) nobody in the western world would give a quarter of a shit. Our lives simply aren’t worth as much as female lives.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/22 11:52 AM
-1

They pose some interesting questions. Maher is a moron, so has little to no interest in solutions, and even less aptitude for providing them. Liberal leftism needs to start being held to account for the changes it’s made, both good and bad. Maher is railing against long dead conservative norms.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 05:22 PM
3

Agree with this entirely. All of these sectors are openly discriminating against white men. Because they’ve adopted an ‘equity’ model which all but ignores class differentials, that means that all white men are put into the same bracket and treated as such. So a boy from a sink estate/trailer park is treated exactly the same as a boy who grew up as the son of a billionaire. It’s reductive, stupid and destructive. But that’s the model that’s been adopted. Plan your career as such. As has been sai…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 08:46 AM
67

‘Lived experience’ = ‘the available data doesn’t support the argument I’m just about to make, so I’m going to bolster my own point of view as a member of a ‘protected group’ with a spurious, manipulative and disingenuous term designed to give my argument a legitimacy it absolutely doesn’t deserve’ Try deploying this term as a white guy. You’ll not get far… It’s just representative of the drift towards emotion rather than reason as the primary tool of debate. It goes along with the feminisation o…
/r/MensRights10/09/22 12:35 PM
1

I’ve read this several times. It’s such a good essay. It neatly spears the doublethink going on in public life, in which women are absolutely equal and identical to men when it’s convenient, and strangely, magically ‘better’ and ‘more vulnerable’ when that’s the more advantageous opinion to hold…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 01:14 PM
6

I had an ex who had endometriosis. Horrendous. I’ve been to more doctors visits and looked at more diagrams of the female anatomy than most women I’ll bet. We saw male and female doctors. I’ve also in my time been under the care of female doctors who had to do things to my own intimate parts (urologists etc). This position really did seem one in which the sex of the person in the role was immaterial. I understand in some scenarios a woman may feel more comfortable being dealt with by a woman (gy…
/r/MensRights08/09/22 04:02 PM
3

https://mensgroup.com/mens-advocacy-group/
/r/MensRights05/09/22 08:33 PM
4

Couldn’t agree more mate. You’ve nailed it
/r/MensRights05/09/22 05:44 PM
9

Tbf a lot of the way politics works is just people shouting as loudly as they can about their issue to the exclusion of all else. I’d say the problem is that some pressure groups (feminism) now have the ear of most of the establishment in a way that mens advocacy groups just don’t. So we get things like diversity quotas at the office, but no real reform on things like custody/divorce settlements. I really think this is where the MRM needs to become more organised, disciplined and try to gain som…
/r/MensRights05/09/22 03:57 PM
18

Why bother? This is an anonymous account so I can just be honest. Virtue-signal to who? A bunch of strangers on the internet? Seems like a giant waste of time to me…
/r/MensRights05/09/22 02:45 PM
111

It’s everywhere. It’s why I’m here tbh. I confess I was something of a liberal feminist type (not the insufferable kind I promise) and I still think there are genuine issues faced by women that aren’t faced by men (and vice versa of course!). But this is entering the realms of deeply unfair social engineering. It’s simply not acceptable to be going about things the way it’s being done, with quotas and ‘reverse’ discrimination. They lost me. I was, and am, a huge supporter of fairness. This isn’t…
/r/MensRights05/09/22 12:02 PM
2

He’s a funny character, that’s for sure, but he’s an interesting and provocative thinker. He was also very principled in his opposition to what he viewed as compelled speech.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 06:55 PM
2

So much feminism has thrived in Academia. You need to be aware you’ll be entering the most hostile of environments. Everyone will be agains you, certainly in any Ivy League institutions for example. But there may be others, and places and people that are more sympathetic. At the moment academia is in a crisis of legitimacy and that’s because it’s turned into an echo chamber which spends a lot of its time reaffirming it’s central truths, rather like the church. The more viewpoint diversity, the b…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 02:01 PM
2

There’s a masters’ thesis and/or a PhD in this. I wonder whether it’s worth getting in touch with one of the mens rights groups in the US (I’m assuming that’s where you are?) and seeing if they’ll fund it? Then you get support with collecting data, doing interviews etc etc. just an idea.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 06:47 AM
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I also came across her channel. It’s really good. It’s very focussed on relationships and sex (as opposed to financial stuff, child support, discrimination, misandry etc) from what I can see, but she’s really doing brilliantly at challenging some feminist thinking. One of the things that really stuck out was the point she makes: ‘don’t you think men are allowed to have preferences too?’ (she was talking about the general propensity of men to want a woman who’s not been promiscuous). It was a rea…
/r/MensRights02/09/22 06:08 AM
6

Isn’t this a problem that’s occurred with the rise of OLD? Women set a filter and you just never get through it? So you don’t even get ‘seen’? I’m an old bugger, so I’m of the age when you used to meet girls the old-fashioned way, but I do think OLD has changed the game and attributing it to attitude might not be entirely fair.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 05:18 PM
15

This is part of the over-correction. I think, in fairness, there was a white male author dominance in assigned reading for many years. However, the solution to this has been (as with so many other things) to radically ‘over-correct’ and now assigned reading is exclusively from ‘marginalised’ perspectives. I think another problem I’ve found is that there’s often little universality in many of the characters and the writing is often subpar. Because these texts are chosen because of the gender/ethn…
/r/MensRights01/09/22 06:28 AM
1

Yup. I wish they knew how disappointed/disgusted we get with their ‘hoe phase’. I’ve just mentally and emotionally checked out from girls so many times when I found out they were. It just wasn’t under my control at all. All my rationalisations just went by the wayside. Emotions are powerful.
/r/AntiFeminists30/08/22 07:56 PM
1

Yup. I wish we could explain this to them. ‘You gave it away for free, how the hell am I supposed to invest any meaning in it whatsoever now?’
/r/AntiFeminists30/08/22 06:31 PM
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This is really sad. A lot of girls don’t really want to have sex quickly, but we’ve now created a culture in which, if she doesn’t fuck you right away then you’re a ‘beta/provider’. This, of course, is feminisms fault. Meh.
/r/AntiFeminists30/08/22 05:45 PM
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Men aren’t allowed their own spaces, either online or offline. And then we read head-scratching article after article about the ‘crisis in male mental health’. They’re terrified of what happens if we discuss things with each other. If we have our private spaces. They’re sure we’ll plot a ‘return to patriarchy’ rather than sink a few beers and talk rubbish about sports. Resist this as much as you’re able. I don’t think there’s much hope for platforms like Reddit, it’s a liberal echo-chamber, and …
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:33 AM
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‘I didn’t choose the mom life’ You literally did. That’s a choice you made. Three times.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/08/22 03:42 PM
2

Brilliantly said. I’ve made the point elsewhere. We protect and insulate women so much from the male sexual nature - occasionally (nights out, clubs etc where the beast is unleashed a little) it breaks through and they’re utterly horrified/disgusted. They thought they wanted ‘parity’ but they didn’t really know what that meant. Because they’d had this invisible guard rail that most of us (certainly once we’d got past this teenage phase) tried to put in place. I think there’s a difference between…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:09 PM
1

There’s a very, very dark part of me that’s really enjoying the feminists vs trans debate. For years we’ve been lectured about how much we suck (white men) and how we just needed to give up control/power so the world could be sunshine, lollipops and rainbows. Whatever side you’re on and whatever your views on the matter, the way the debate has been conducted is appalling. Anyone that was dumb enough to think the world would be a better place if it were run by any of these people has been thoroug…
/r/MensRights29/08/22 12:46 PM
3

It maybe had some validity, I’m sure in 1965 there were still plenty of guys that talked down to women in the workplace etc. Now? In 2022? It’s just used as one of these idiot call to arms to drum up online support when a man has the temerity to disagree with a woman.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 11:55 AM
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This is a really good point. As society has become more feminised, the value placed on feelings has increased. It’s not necessarily a good way to be making decisions.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 05:26 AM
1

Men and women value different things. We used to have this knowledge and (crucially) used to be able to express it. Men (generally) value youth, beauty and purity. Other stuff as well, sure, this isn’t an exhaustive list, but these are the things that keep coming up when men are actually asked. One of the downsides for women of silencing men in order to try to re-cast society in the way they want it, is that these thousand-year old preferences have become verboten to express. Because they’ve got…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/22 02:07 PM
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Women want the illusion preserved that they’re the same as men in order that they can be ‘equal’. Think of playing football with a child. You need to let them win, and don’t hurt them by tackling or being too rough. That was the game we used to play - they were to some extent insulated from the (let’s be honest) uglier side of male sexuality via courtship rituals and conventions around dating and marriage etc. They (women) wanted the sexual revolution. It’s exposed them to much more risk than wa…
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:20 PM
3

Read ‘the Dead Bedroom Fix’ by Dad Starting Over. I found it helpful. As has been said, sex and intimacy is part of a relationship. Let’s face it, most of the women we’re with these days have been intimate with a whole bunch of other guys, and now she’s denying you what she gave (probably pretty freely) to others? Nope. I’d be out. I think a lot of men are waking up to being used as ‘providers’. She doesn’t want to be intimate? Ok, then we’re roommates. Now, OTOH we also have to accept some degr…
/r/MensRights26/08/22 06:52 AM
1

It’s almost like the ‘patriarchal constructs’ they decry were partly there to protect women…
/r/MensRights25/08/22 07:06 PM
1

I thought consent was sexy?
/r/MensRights25/08/22 05:13 PM
1

This is probably the only reason you’d submit to that institution now, I agree.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 10:04 AM
1

Yeah. Did I imply that one could ‘snap out of it’? I really hope not, I absolutely don’t think that and I’d no way trivialise what that feels like. As to your other points, I agree entirely. It can feel like the things you’ve dedicated your life to are just gone. I have a buddy who’s not very sociable, has no friends and is entirely dependent on his wife for social interaction. If she decides they’re done it’s game over for him.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 09:04 AM
1

Yes, I’m not entirely sure how society expects us to go from treating sex like a recreational activity to suddenly ring-fencing it and declaring it ‘sacred’ once we decide we’re in a ‘relationship’. The waters do seem somewhat muddied.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 04:45 AM
1

Oh, well done you! I confess I didn’t do the legwork. Some researcher I am. Still, I’d assert the penalties for cheating are still probably higher for men. You lose access to your kids and probably your house. The financial and emotional implications are pretty serious whichever way you slice it, but it does seem as though men get a pretty raw deal when it all goes south…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 07:43 PM
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I do know the one. Cathy Newman is actually better than that, but just couldn’t engage with where he was coming from because there’s been so little examination of feminist precepts over the past 20 years in liberal circles. They’re used to being able to dismiss (admittedly pretty poor) critiques of feminism as ‘women belong back in the kitchen’ rhetoric. And yes I’m well aware of his opposition to the compelled speech law. Whether you agree or disagree (I agreed with him) it was a brave and prin…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 07:11 PM
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When the incredibly moderate, highly articulate, educated and well-read Jordan Peterson is being denounced as an ‘extremist’, one has to wonder what we expected to happen.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 05:29 PM
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I’m not saying don’t do it, but ‘sit around and talk about stuff like women do’ is fine, if that’s what suits you. Personally, that works pretty well for me, but equally getting to the gym or doing something with my hands and/or buddies works equally well, if not better. I’m not saying every therapist is a closet misandrist or even close. But therapy as a discipline leans heavily feminist (I challenge you to find a therapist who doesn’t declare themselves a feminist) and so you’re always slightl…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 04:39 PM
1

I will try and find it, I know the one you’re referring to. But tbf ‘seek help’ from a highly feminised and woman-first profession like therapy, in which you’re basically put through struggle sessions (unless you’re very lucky) in which you’re coached to renounce your ‘toxic masculinity’ (become more like a woman) aren’t really that much help, are they?
/r/MensRights24/08/22 04:23 PM
1

Marriage really does look increasingly like a mug’s game, doesn’t it?
/r/MensRights24/08/22 03:22 PM
1

Cracking point and yes I agree absolutely. What women say they want, compared to what they actually choose and how they behave is so far apart. I think what happens is that the men they really want don’t want them back, or only want them for a while before moving on. Then as the clock begins to tick they find a guy who is ‘ok’. They treat them as a partner/friend, but generally don’t find them attractive. They persuade them to be more ‘open’ because that’s what they look for in a friend, and the…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 02:48 PM
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“These same young men can compare Tate to a feminist zeitgeist that accuses them of oppressing women — not just in the present, but throughout history. The feminist answer is for young men to take a backseat and give way to their female peers. In many areas of life, such as higher education, this has already occured. Tate then, is the beneficiary of a culture almost designed to generate resentment in these boys.” Yup. As many of us have been noticing, the current direction of travel is for men t…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 10:04 AM
1

Sure. That’s beyond my pay grade. For now I’ll stick to gently suggesting that young women might be better served by listening to men talk (in spaces where they’re not routinely silenced) and see what they value. After all, we’re left in no doubt what women want (because they’re incredibly vocal about it), but somewhere along the track, the idea that men are even allowed to have preferences or things they think are valuable (that aren’t necessarily the same things as women!) got stomped on. I th…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 09:40 AM
10

Society: ‘Why are young men flocking to the likes of Andrew Tate?’ Also Society: ‘We think you should die because you’re men’ I really don’t think they get how corrosive this messaging is. If you’re growing up NOW as a man, you’ve benefitted from virtually none of the things that you’re being held accountable for. It’s truly ‘the sins of the fathers’. We’ve had time to adjust (us older guys) as the heat has been gradually turned up on the stove of misandry, but these younger men have just been d…
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 08:46 AM
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Yup. It’s running rife, although it’s done on the quiet for now. I’f they can get away with this being an overt policy you’d better bet they will. ‘Positive’ discrimination is happening everywhere - I’ve sat in interviews where I’ve had to remind a panel that it’s illegal to discriminate in hiring on the basis of sex/race etc. You can feel the tension in the room when you make the point…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 06:19 AM
1

It does appear that many of our behaviours, instincts and by extension our societal structures are, to some extent, governed by our innate psychological make-up. That sensation of disgust when you find out your girl has a promiscuous past? That’s for a good solid evolutionary reason. Same with wanting to protect and provide. These things are deep-seated. Of course, we’re also rational creatures in the way chimps aren’t, so we have many more choices available to us. But yeah, the more I’ve learnt…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 06:12 AM
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I think if you are older, you still remember a time in which women couldn’t get a mortgage without a man signing off on it for her (my mother tells me this was a huge issue for her). You remember how women were told they couldn’t do certain careers, how they were still very much expected to be housewives etc. The tables have completely flipped now. Nearly everything is in their favour, from a school system that prioritises their approach to learning and behaviour style, all the way through to em…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 05:44 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue
/r/MensRights23/08/22 12:25 PM
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Oh, it seems you’ve got answers to your questions. But yeah, there were plenty. I dunno, somehow they just seemed to have strong female lead characters that weren’t insufferable. Tbf, maybe it’s not so much about the films themselves and more the surrounding ‘noise’ of ‘look at women!! Aren’t they AMAZING!?!? Aren’t they!?!?! Don’t you agree?!?!? Women!!!!’ It’s just tiresome.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 12:24 PM
12

Flying Leia 😂😂😂 I’d forgotten about that particular piece of idiocy 😂😂😂
/r/MensRights23/08/22 10:45 AM
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They could easily have done that, my generation also grew up on films like Alien, don’t forget. But that wasn’t enough. They had to trash the older stuff along the way. ‘Fuck you men and your heroes’, is the rather unsubtle messaging. It’s not so much infuriating as it is tiresome… Anyway, it’s up to me if I want to pay for that. I’ve decided I’d rather not.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 08:52 AM
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I think a lot of cinemas are going to go under in the coming recession/depression. Fewer people are buying what they’re selling. Who wants to pay to watch thinly veiled propaganda? ‘Look at how amazing women are!’ gets old really quickly. Add to that the costs of keeping the lights on (literally) and I think we may well see a wave of closures. I find the woke narratives exist less in long-form TV (that’s just my show selection probably, I’ve no doubt it exists out there). It’s hard enough to wri…
/r/MensRights23/08/22 06:15 AM
3

Don’t do drugs, kids.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 05:28 AM
2

This is a very real risk
/r/MensRights22/08/22 07:43 PM
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😂
/r/MensRights22/08/22 06:00 PM
1

You’re free to fuck off.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 05:52 PM
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Agree entirely
/r/MensRights22/08/22 05:52 PM
7

Did you read my post? I agree with you.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 05:43 PM
1

Because women want someone who can provide for them. They need to take time off work in order to look after children, for at least a year and probably more. The inability of men to be able to provide for a family on an average wage is a huge societal problem.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 05:30 PM
1

Andrew Tate is an unpleasant extremist. He’s preaching a toxic, horrible gospel. But seriously, what did you expect was going to happen? We’ve had how many years of ‘fuck men’ rhetoric? At the same time as emasculating men socially and economically (have a Google for how far average wages have failed to keep pace with inflation for the past 40 years).
/r/MensRights22/08/22 05:22 PM
1

Switching on a TV in 2022: ‘Look! Look! It’s a woman! A WOMAN! Doing things! THINGS!!! What do you think of that, eh??!! EH??!!! Fucking tiresome.
/r/AntiFeminists22/08/22 02:08 PM
2

That’s really, really sad. I’d never heard of her. RIP.
/r/AntiFeminists21/08/22 06:29 PM
1

I’m talking about the game as a whole (football is a club game in Europe and that’s where the bulk of the revenue is). If women want to make as much money as the men, they need to build a fanbase like the EPL, La Liga, the Bundesliga etc. I’m not talking about an individual contract awarded in the international game.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 11:33 AM
2

Massive yawn. Do what you want. I reckon she’ll do a good job. This is just a technique to get a bit of publicity going. It’s a cheap and ever-increasing tactic. Take a sideswipe at ‘men’ as you publicise your thing. It’s boring, I just roll my eyes and move on.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 07:39 AM
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In the West, very few. There are some legacy issues that are, by and large, being resolved. There are a lot of things that will never be resolved (the so-called ‘pay gap’ for example) as it’s simply a result of us making different choices. But in strict legal terms, almost nothing. As other commentators have observed: ‘the ratcheting up of the rhetoric seems to have come at a point at which legal equality has been all but achieved in totality’.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 07:32 AM
1

I think there are two issues here: Women profess to want a man who is more like a woman (emotionally available etc). However, in their ACTUAL choices (always look at what women DO, not what they SAY), it appears that their choices aren’t backing up their professed preferences. We’ve removed a lot of the things that empower men to be the things that women ACTUALLY want. So it’s difficult to establish your career, earnings and all that settled life stuff that women ACTUALLY tend to go for. The eco…
/r/MensRights20/08/22 07:09 AM
1

I’m actually pretty chivalrous. For good or for ill.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 07:16 PM
1

It’s really hard. Unpaid labour really is a thing and I don’t want to minimise it. Our social care structure is creaking both because of demographic change (soooo many older people who retired at 65 and are living sooo much longer) but also because it now requires 2 incomes to maintain a decent standard of living.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 07:06 PM
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Sorry, that’s a really good point and it’s well made. I just got annoyed, and quite rightly you pointed this out.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 06:55 PM
1

Breast cancer vs prostate cancer funding and survival rates. Google it. She’s a moron (she’s an athlete, of course she’s a moron) and a moron who’s wrong. But society will clap like idiot seals because Wimmin.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 04:37 PM
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He’s a c*nt. But here’s the thing, like Tommy Robinson, if you don’t permit moderate dissent of your philosophy and societal organisation, then the only people that will find a voice are at the extremes. Critics of immigration got told they were racists, even in the face of a massive, unprecedented increase in immigration levels post 1992 (in the UK). It didn’t affect the middle class (they got a wider variety of cuisine and got their extensions built more cheaply) so it was ‘fine’. Similarly, m…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 04:34 PM
6

Most women are just trying to live their lives. As are most men. We just find our interests conflict a fair bit. ‘Hate machines’ is a bit OTT. There are a vocal minority of women that really are hateful, I don’t deny it, but they are a minority.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 09:33 AM
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I’ll give you a bit of advice I see given to ‘curious’ men who go into female spaces online and ask ‘innocent’ questions.* Take your time to read the sub properly for a few weeks, months maybe. Try to open your mind and see things from another perspective. Rather than asking banal questions like the one you posed, take the time to learn about the issues that are being raised. Do you think there’s something in it? Or is it just whiny bullshit? Do the men here show a preference in the sort of woma…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 07:59 AM
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Happy to follow links if you’ve got them. I’ve honestly not seen it come up a single time. Ok, I’m something of a newcomer, but I’ve genuinely not seen it.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 06:03 AM
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I’ve been on this sub a few weeks now, and I’ve never seen it used. Maybe go to the places you’ve seen that term used and ask those people?
/r/MensRights19/08/22 05:52 AM
1

You do see it in some online spaces like mumsnet. Pennies are starting to drop. Most women are decent people, and when this sort of unfairness is right in front of them they do begin to question it.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 05:08 AM
1

Their stars shine brighter than ours ever do, but for so much shorter a time.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 05:32 PM
1

Simps are indeed a massive problem. They inflate the egos of utterly average girls who bring very, very little to the table.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:43 PM
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I read the Expanse books. I thought they were better than the TV series. BB and BCS are up there with Shakespeare for me, I’m not exaggerating. Brilliantly written plot, 3D characters, pathos. A masterpiece! Whatever it is, the more the influence of fucking ‘producers’ can be constrained the better. Let good storytellers do their thing and fuck off 😂
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:06 PM
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‘Applicants who apply as X are particularly encouraged to apply’ was always the thin end of the wedge. I know and talk to a lot of feminists/‘allies’. Trust me, they’re MORE than comfortable introducing legislation that will allow them to actually hire their favoured groups preferentially. We do need to fight back, it’s sheer self-preservation at this point. I think what will start to happen is that women who are further down the income scale, and need their man to bring home the bacon will star…
/r/MensRights18/08/22 04:00 PM
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I’m older than you. I remember the good old days and I won’t have some pipsqueak tell me I’m wrong dammit. Now get off my lawn 😂😂
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:52 PM
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Yes good point, well made, but you have to be lucky. It’s just a field in which (as you referred to) treats men as by definition ‘broken’. I’m not surprised about the results of your little social experiment! Every time a guy posts for advice/support in one of the other subs I’m on, and they get abuse or tumbleweed, I advise them to take it down for a while, change a few details and repost it with gender references removed or to flip the genders. Reddit is particularly bad, I’ve noticed, but it’…
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:51 PM
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Which was part of my point. I think you may have misread (I mean that politely)
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:46 PM
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Oh yeah, I do that all the time. Wait until it’s finished, take the temperature and then jump in.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 03:04 PM
2

Ok, maybe I’m wrong about this then. I just look at why OnlyFans etc is a thing and guys don’t seem to do half as well on there? Isn’t there a disparity in seeking out the purely visual for sexual gratification?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 02:43 PM
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This isn’t misogynistic, it’s just that 90% of modern films are just shit. Endless reboots and tired franchises. Add to that irritating and childish gender politics and it’s a big ‘no thanks’ from most people. I’d much rather watch a TV series, we’re in something of a golden age for storytelling, and there’s so much good content out there I’m not dragging myself to the cinema, paying a fortune to be lectured (indirectly) about my ‘toxic masculinity’. They’ve lost me.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 02:36 PM
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Oh is it just one of them? I didn’t realise there were more than one. It’s a PR job, not a gynaecologist job (although I’ve dealt with a fair few male gynaecologists). If a female doctor wants to/is tasked with giving me advice on prostate cancer I’ll happily listen. I’ll also suck it up if the doctor doing my prostate exam is female, so in answer to MN’s question, ‘yes, we have’. Some people just like getting themselves all worked up, I reckon most women are probably as unbothered about this as…
/r/MensRights18/08/22 11:33 AM
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A ‘saucy dalliance’ 😂 Lol. I suppose the difference here between the Thailand thing is that at least these men aren’t (from what I read) underage, but there’s still a significant power disparity that would have feminists bringing the pitchforks if the genders were flipped. Just more societal double-standards I guess…
/r/MensRights18/08/22 11:27 AM
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Yes, the current dominant lens through which people view society is intersectionality. It’s class-blind, but I’ll come to that later. Think of yourself as getting ‘points’ for being female. You get three points for being female and none for being male. You might get a point if you’re a gay male, but take that point away if you’re white. If you’re a member of an ethnic minority, that’s another 2/3 points. And so on and so on. It’s not entirely without merit as an analytical tool but it’s a very, …
/r/MensRights18/08/22 11:05 AM
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This entire site is FULL of people falling over themselves to justify ANY female behaviour. The rest of society isn’t this gynocentric, but Reddit absolutely is. You’re not going to get ANY support unless you choose your subs very carefully. You can be pissed off about it, but that’s the way it is, and it’s not going to change any time soon. Between vocal feminists and simps, we’re outnumbered and outgunned. So don’t post in a generic thread looking for a fair hearing. You won’t get it. Likewise…
/r/MensRights18/08/22 10:54 AM
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Yeah she’s allowed to have a bit of downtime. Tbf so is Boris Johnson and I despise the corrupt, morally repugnant shitweasel. The issue with BJ is that he was violating the very rules he was putting in place for everyone else, not that he was partying it up generally.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 10:42 AM
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This is like the women’s football argument. Women don’t bring in as much money as men not just because they’re not as good, but because they don’t bring in the same number of spectators. It’s funny watching this astroturfing campaign (excuse the pun) to try to make women’s football a ‘thing’ from the top down. Best thing women could do if they wanted to popularise the game is to go, pay money to watch it, buy merchandise etc. instead they sit around whining about the inequality of it all. That’s…
/r/MensRights18/08/22 07:24 AM
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I have a tonne of female friends and colleagues. I agree with this completely. I think sometimes we all need to ‘touch grass’. Log off, stop being so online (where the loudest and most unhinged rule it seems) and realise that most people are actually generally ok. Sure, there are cultural issues and many things that need addressing but I find a healthy antidote to thinking I hate people is too log off and go and talk to a few IRL.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 06:32 AM
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And yeah, male-only spaces are under a concerted attack. It’s a huge problem. We need time away from women. They’re great and all, but we also need our space. Just as they do, and I think we’re all happy to respect that on our side of the fence. I wish that respect was reciprocated but given that it’s not really, then we’re going to have to push back a bit more firmly.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 06:08 AM
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Men are visual. Tbh I don’t get much from these sorts of places but whatever, I’m a live and let live sort of person. I used to know a few girls who worked as dancers in these sorts of places (paying student tuition fees and the like). They did it on autopilot - half the time they’re thinking about something else. Give me a girl that’s actually hot for you, dancing and stripping just for you any day of the week over someone who’s thinking about what to make for dinner as they slip out of their t…
/r/MensRights18/08/22 06:06 AM
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I met a South African who was trying to get into the police. He told me at length about the quotas. He was very balanced about it Tbf, but you could see his lifetime ambition had been thwarted by things that were out of his hands. It felt very sad.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 12:52 PM
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U OK HUN?
/r/MensRights17/08/22 11:12 AM
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Yeah. Although tbf he’d have done that with 2 critical comments. It’d get lapped up. The confirmation bias in liberal circles is just as strong as any, although they think they’re immune for some reason…
/r/MensRights16/08/22 06:24 PM
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I mean, it’s underpaid, dirty, bloody hard work and potentially risky. You move from shithole to shithole (although less than army) and spend ages away from your family. I salute anyone that is willing to do it. But head-scratching about why young white males are the bulk of recruits is just moronic.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 06:12 PM
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It’s difficult when you put women on a pedestal. So few of them deserve it, if any. Just sleep with someone. It’s not that magical or amazing. Until you find someone you really connect with, and want to do it with them, over and over again. The days of women being ‘virtuous’ and ‘chaste’ are over. Deal with the world as it is, not as you wish it was. If they’re DTF, then fuck them. It’s you who’s missing out if there’s a buffet laid out and you don’t go up to the table.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:23 PM
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‘Effectively’ probably doing some work here, and this may be the RAF top brass making a point about these targets, but on the face of it, this looks like the sort of thing we’ve all been noticing. This isn’t a good path we’re going down. Dropping merit-based hiring in favour of social engineering will result in lower standards and resentment, IMO.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:37 PM
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We’re not trying to convince our enemies, we’re trying to convince those watching that we’re decent and civilised people. Feminists (generally) couldn’t care less about any challenges facing men and I think that’s why lots of more neutral observers see them for what they are. If we’re to be any better then we need to be, if not beyond reproach, then certainly better than that.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:24 PM
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‘Hate mail’ in this context might of course, just mean ‘critical responses’. But anyone sending abusive or frothing comments to this person isn’t doing themselves, or anyone, any favours. Society is already stacked against us for advocating for ourselves, and minded to ridicule and minimise the challenges we face. Allowing them to write us off by being abusive just makes it easier.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:34 PM
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Leave it up! The responses speak for themselves, and it’s a very good counterpoint to the ‘these are all women-hating basement dwelling incels’ stuff that we see.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:26 PM
1

Then let’s come together to implement these social programs? Maybe one of the reasons is that we don’t advocate for ourselves in the way that we need to.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 02:44 PM
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Adding my voice to the ‘this is fine by me’ chorus. ‘Social programmes based on need’ are indeed a good thing generally, and yes women have some unique physical needs. There may be areas in which mens’ healthcare is somewhat deficient, but let’s advocate for those becoming better, not everything becoming a bit worse.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 02:21 PM
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It’s deep-seated and biologically/evolutionary based as well. The risk of paternity fraud seems to be up there with fear of the dark. Until we all acknowledge that a lot of what motivates us and shapes our consciousness as a species is because we’re animals, we’re missing a huge chunk of what makes us human. Blank slate philosophy has so much to answer for, IMHO
/r/MensRights16/08/22 07:17 AM
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Yeah, I hear this, although the penalties for social intervention (when it comes to strangers at least) can be really high! It’s a brave person that intervenes.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:49 AM
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Aye, you’re probably right. But I also think society needs a form of ‘immediate correction’ as well. I’m going to sound like a Victorian Clergyman, but social standards are there for a reason. We need to be civilised, and society needs to have some way to enforce that civility somehow. In the moment. I think so, anyway. Otherwise everything falls apart.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:41 AM
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Yes, I’m not advocating violence, I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear. But (I’m making an assumption) if you’re a man, this ‘there will be a physical consequence to this behaviour’ is literally baked in to your bone marrow. We just feel it, it’s almost pre-cognitive or instinctive. What annoys us so much about the women that behave like this is that they’re taking that knowledge that there will be no consequences and using it to behave really badly.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:30 AM
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This is the difference between equality and equity I guess. If you don’t advocate for this ‘over-correction’ you’re upholding the status quo. I agree, I think we’ve taken a wrong turn with this, and would much preferred we stuck to trying to increase equality of opportunity.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:26 AM
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Yup. Actually if you look at the way most men regulate each others’ behaviour, the actual physical interaction is rarely deployed, it’s rather implied. I was reading somewhere (I’ve forgotten, forgive me), one of the upsides of the feminisation of society is that this implied threat of violence has receded.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:23 AM
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I don’t think, nor have I ever said, that women have it all their own way. Just that feminism is hugely powerful. Of course there are other powerful forces in the world, which compete with each other. I don’t agree with the overturning of RvW, just for info.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 12:10 PM
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Yeah, this is a bit like arguing with people that think life is all part of God’s plan. They’ve chosen to believe in something, and you’ll never talk them out of it. Just smile and nod. Also people LOVE simplistic and reductive explanations. It’s just part of our make-up. It’s good for us to think we’ve got it all figured out I guess.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:36 AM
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Sure, I also know a lot of feminists. But when they talk about these things, it’s in a very different way that they talk about female mental health (just to pick up on your example). Not always, what’s fascinating is having friends who are feminist mothers to sons. Now that’s like watching pennies drop in slow motion. There’s also a sort of spiteful contempt displayed towards men as a group that we sometimes also see in these spaces (directed toward women), although to a much greater extent (alt…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 08:20 AM
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A good piece! Thanks for sharing. Women are doing better than men in so many areas, and yet they’re still getting extra help. I’ve used this analogy of ‘fighting the last war’ a bit, and that’s what feminism/society seems to be doing. We’ve overnight (in societal terms) made life much more difficult for the bulk of ‘normal’ men. I think the central problem is when you let a single-issue advocacy group (feminism) control most of the public policy levers. Ever try to ask a feminist about these iss…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 07:39 AM
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AHA escaped one of the most oppressive regimes on earth, and talks eloquently and passionately about western liberal values. She’s far from an empty-headed ‘conformism feminist’ of the Emma Watson variety, tbf. This is probably worth reading (it’s paywalled, alas).
/r/MensRights14/08/22 09:29 AM
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It’s part of a social engineering scheme. Ok, here goes. It all rests on this central assumption: Men and women are not only equal but the same. As in, identical. The only thing that makes us different is the way we’re socialised. No differences, there’s nothing in our biology that could affect our psychology. Nothing. Once you understand this, everything else falls into place. We just need to get 50% of women into male-dominated workplaces (by the same token we should also be pushing as hard to…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 09:25 AM
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It’s an awful disease. Really sorry for you.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:39 AM
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You don’t need to serve in the military to achieve those things. I sometimes thing people treat service as though it will somehow automatically make them better people. It does help, of course, but you can also this work on your own. Also, ignore the vocal minority of women talking and pay attention to womens’ demonstrable preferences. Look at what they do, not what they say. You will notice a disparity, I promise. Be the best, most ‘masculine’ version of yourself. Sounds like you have your head…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 07:16 AM
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That’s the one. 😂😂
/r/MensRights14/08/22 06:58 AM
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I’m not sure I’m an MRA. I hang out on this sub because my career got set back significantly from the pro-female agenda that’s now prevalent in hiring culture in my industry. I’m reading job ads that say things like ‘we will actively favour female and PoC candidates’ etc etc. I have worked my tail off to get where I am, and found that people who started way ahead of me in the race of life were suddenly claiming victim status. I don’t buy it, I think it’s disingenuous and unfair. That shock led m…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 06:26 AM
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I can’t remember where I heard it, sorry. It’s not an original thought but it goes something like: ‘Women don’t face physical consequences for their actions in the same way guys do. You act like a douche, you get punched. Women don’t get punched. So they view aggressive behaviour in a completely different way’ As we’ve seen the ‘you go girl’ mentality emerge over the past decades, along with the fiction pushed by Hollywood that a slender petite woman can fight off an army of goons with kung-fu, …
/r/MensRights13/08/22 08:54 PM
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Hey look at that! We had a civil exchange of views! And took each others’ points. On the internet!! I’m going for a lie-down, this has all been a bit of a shock. Have a lovely day 😂
/r/MensRights13/08/22 05:58 PM
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I don’t think it’s ignorance. I think if you sat her down and had a sensible conversation she’d admit that, of course men aren’t robots, and we don’t wake up feeling the same every day. I’m speaking for her, of course, but bear with me for the sake of argument. But that doesn’t make good social media content, does it? Honestly I’m sticking to my view that it’s just childishness, aimed at generating more social media engagement. OTT stuff generates more clicks and eyeballs. I do, however, take yo…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 05:51 PM
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I actually get this. We used to be allowed to point out that women were, on average, more emotionally unstable and had to ride a tidal wave of continually changing hormones.* It must make life fairly difficult. Men aren’t ALWAYS worse off. It’s why we’re better suited, temperamentally, for some things. I actually get her completely - her energy levels must wax and wane over that cycle, making programming workouts and stuff even more challenging. It’s another bloody variable. Ok, there’s the casu…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 01:55 PM
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I admit I expected to find trolls, incels and misogyny in this sub, but haven’t really. Not much, tbh. I don’t have time to engage with debate as much as I’d like, but it’s been informative and helpful. The thing is, any criticism of female behaviour is now regarded as ‘misogynistic’. Whereas there’s definitely the sense in modern popular culture that men are a problem to be fixed, so criticism is fair game, plus we ‘had it all our own way for hundreds of years, so suck it up’.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 08:30 PM
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Fuck! Well, when he ends up single because she leaves him, I’ll take him! 😂😂😂
/r/MensRights12/08/22 07:21 PM
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I mean, you were in an arranged marriage? Which is, by definition explicitly transactional. So your ‘job’ is to provide for your wife, I guess? I know there are some that would assert all marriage is transactional anyway, but the arranged bit really does make it clear. As I’ve said before on here, and as we all know, women steadfastly refuse to ‘marry down’. Men will happily do so, we value different things. But women get into high paying jobs and yet apparently still seek men who earn more (or …
/r/MensRights12/08/22 06:14 AM
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Ah, another article that claims that men need to become more like women in order to be ‘accepted.’ Improving ‘communication skills’ won’t do a damn thing. In the same way the ‘do more housework’ thing doesn’t work for married guys to get all the sex their spouses don’t want to give them. The reason for men being left on the shelf in the US? 4s, 5s and 6s get to fuck 8s, 9s and 10s. But just for the night, or a short period of time. Then they’ve served their purpose and get dropped, but subsequen…
/r/MensRights11/08/22 06:12 PM
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There’s loads more evidence of censorship, self-censorship and hostility towards conservative viewpoints on campuses throughout the western world. I’d take some of it with a pinch of salt (like everything) but it’s definitely available.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 11:00 AM
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https://reports.collegepulse.com/college-free-speech-rankings-2021 Took me 2 seconds to Google.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 10:57 AM
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It’s not like we’ve got NO evidence for the echo chamber nature of these sorts of courses, but sure, maybe you’re right. It could be a good faith course of study, in which things are discussed and debated openly and honestly. Stranger things have happened.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 10:23 AM
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We all know the answers though, and honest debate is absolutely not tolerated in these kind of environments. Look at the course title! It’s biased before you even start. If you think any of the questions you’ve posed (and yes they’re interesting questions) will be discussed in an open spirit of enquiry rather than the current ‘white man bad’ school of thought, I think you will be sorely disappointed. It’s such a shame, watching what has happened to academia, which has become (in the humanities a…
/r/MensRights11/08/22 06:12 AM
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Preganet. She’ll be lucky to get a hookup. Modern society has made women delusional. They mistake a guy wanting to fuck them for genuine interest. They’re idiots. Who wants to pick up after their mistakes? Also, well done for telling us up front you’re in it for the money. The moment you get the chance you’ll revert to type.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/22 04:39 PM
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How do you know if a woman is unhappy? Oh, don’t worry, she’ll fucking tell you. Seriously ‘emotional labour?’ Fuck off. As though we don’t all have to suck it up at our shitty jobs and make nice with the various twats we’re forced to work with. 😂
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:36 PM
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Did anyone actually read the piece? It was very good. It acknowledges the fact that third wave feminism has become misandrist and obsessed with trivialities, as well as being a vehicle for affluent women to basically sound off about whatever they feel has annoyed them. It discusses things like UBI etc. I’ve read far, far worse in the Guardian.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:31 PM
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I do this in a more informal way, and frequently have ‘guys evenings’ with friends. The fact is, we have to modify our behaviour when women are around, we all know it (and we all do it). We can’t relax fully, we’re worried about saying the ‘wrong’ thing etc etc. I do think there’s a serious problem with male mental health, but the constant messaging of ‘be more like women/go to therapy’ won’t work half as well as ‘go and shoot the shit with your buddies’. If you’re a guy, I urge you to seek time…
/r/MensRights09/08/22 07:04 AM
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Professions. It only has one f. Unlike you, I imagine, who almost certainly has many.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 08:45 PM
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‘Maintenance wank’ 😂😂😂😂 I bloody love this and am stealing it. Thank you 😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏
/r/MensRights07/08/22 08:46 AM
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The ‘progressive’ political left made a very subtle shift from ‘equality’ (of opportunity) to ‘equity’ (achieving equality of outcome). Everything else, all these discriminatory policies, all this bending over backwards to shower women with opportunity, the whole DEI training we’re being force-fed at work. It all stems from this shift, and it’s also why I parted company with the left. You can achieve equality of outcome with enough coercion. I’m generally not a fan of state-mandated coercion, it…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 06:31 AM
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Yes I know and agree with all this. But the dogma of our age is that we’re only different (men and women) due to ‘socialisation’. So if you can ‘fix’ the socialisation by pushing more women into these sorts of jobs, equality will follow. QED, right? Now, this dogma occasionally bumps up against innate human nature, but we’re all so busy pretending that doesn’t exist that no discussion about ‘innate preferences’ will be tolerated.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 05:52 AM
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I didn’t mean to be flippant, and I agree with your concerns. And believe me I’ve had my career set back by this agenda, it’s no joke, it’s real and it’s happening all over.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 07:21 PM
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Tbf, a lot of the male-dominated professions tend to earn more, so you can see the reason for the push toward ‘equality’. But yeah, I hear you. Especially in Canada, it must be intolerable. We’re living for the ‘sins of the fathers’ and no mistake. What’s funny/sad is that women (who despite being presented with the ‘equality’ they so badly wanted) do tend to also seek out partners (at least when they’re done ‘having fun’) who earn more than them. Anyway, all these leg-ups being given to women i…
/r/MensRights06/08/22 06:57 PM
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I maintain that there are decent women out there, and plenty of them. Don’t judge an entire gender. You’re just going to have to be REALLY careful when choosing, and be prepared to say ‘no thanks’ to the whole thing (marriage) if necessary, rather than settling for someone who’ll destroy your life, just so you can feel as though you’re doing what society demands of you
/r/MensRights02/08/22 06:36 PM
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“There are many women who are suffering but don’t want to leave their relationship or to step out” Because 💰 I think a lot of younger men are reading what’s being pushed by 3rd wave feminism and seriously questioning whether marriage is for them. And frankly I don’t blame them.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:31 AM
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You can think the overturning of Roe v Wade is a bad thing (I do) as well as think we’re being immersed in an ever-increasing societal soup of casual misandry. I disagree that the relentless and often spiteful way that men are spoken about in todays’ culture has no ill-effects, if that’s the assertion that’s being made.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 02:05 AM
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‘Undermining patriarchy’ = just being a shit about an entire gender because society has told you it’s ok and you’re a horrible person. Meh, people use all sorts of philosophical and religious excuses just to be shitty people. Feminism is no exception. Why would it be?
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:57 PM
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Vengeance?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:05 AM
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I have similar strategies. Going for anonymous pitches where it’s not obvious I’m an ‘untouchable’. Feel free to drop me a line. We hang together or we hang separately…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:04 PM
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I don’t know. Honestly I don’t. But it’s good that there are people who feel the same way? I am no racist/sexist/——ist. Never have been, never will be. But the current direction of travel is bullshit and I’m considering ways to fight it. I guess talking is a good first step…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:19 PM
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I am yes. We’re ALL seeing it. It’s just that nobody’s brave enough/has the backing to stick their head above the parapet on this stuff yet. If you do, you’re screwed.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:00 PM
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The art/media/content they make is AWFUL. We all know it. Everyone knows it. It’s like a bunch of dogs eating their own vomit and pretending to enjoy it. It’ll either pass or, like you, I’ll just become a welder or something. It’s a shitty time to be an average white guy. What pisses me off doubly is that the ‘connected’ white guys will STILL FUCKING BE THERE. They’ve got the money, the connections and all the rest of it. This whole movement has been about pushing lower class white men out of th…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 04:43 PM
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You’re far from alone. Look at arts, publishing, music etc etc. Affluent women want these jobs, and they’re coming for them. They’re tilting the decks in their favour and know it. Why do you think the pile-ons are SO intense when someone points out what’s happening? They know they’ve got a brilliant opportunity to advance their careers by mobilising around this agenda, and also it’s an opportunity for the (white male) senior management to atone for their original sin of ‘whiteness’ by pushing th…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 04:30 PM
2

We tilted the system as much as we could to allow women to flourish, from moving away to exams to coursework, to setting up complex speech codes and making sure women were the central priority in student recruitment. Men now don’t want to go to college as much, and choose not to. Women find themselves with an even smaller pool of ‘eligible’ men (remember, women REALLY don’t like to ‘date down’). It’s going to be interesting. Women are either going to have to change their mating approach and ‘set…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 08:20 AM
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It’s a really good book.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:45 PM
2

I think they just put a lot of existing words together tbh, but I don’t speak German, so I’m not sure
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:10 AM
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That’s the term I was looking for!! Thank you 🙏
/r/MensRights13/07/22 08:52 PM
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Yeah. God I’m pedantic. Or part-German. I want a word for EVERYTHING 😂
/r/MensRights13/07/22 07:08 PM
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Yeah. Bit broad but I guess so. I’m just thinking about the specific tendency of online spaces to go in this direction.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:56 PM
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Is there a name for the overwhelming bias in online spaces towards understanding and rationalising away female behaviour? I see it constantly.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 05:34 PM
1

I was kind of a combination of the two, and found a balance. Tbf I never really expected casual sex, and was always kind of amazed that women wanted to give it away so easily. Maybe I was ‘lucky?’ But the best sex was always with long-term partners. We got to know each other, we worked out what worked, we tried stuff out, etc etc. I usually found ONS/hookups disappointing and never really sought them out, but a lot of women approached me for sex (I know, this sounds like total bullshit but it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:14 PM
3

Thanks. It won’t. It’s gonna get worse.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 06:05 PM
3

I work in the media/arts. The culture is currently falling over itself to get as many women involved as possible, no matter the cost. Because a lot of employment in this sector is freelance, there are very few labour protections in place. And there’s a culture of silence around it as well, which doesn’t help. I’ll post some links if I can find them. I hear you on the ‘idealism’ thing. I guess it’s the difference between equality and equity, which is worth being aware of (assuming you’re not alre…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:38 PM
2

And I’m sorry, I didn’t even address your point over whether this stuff is justified. I dunno, I see it from both sides. I’ve been the victim of it, and it’s hurt my career, so I’m perhaps not as unbiased as I try to be with other issues
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:45 PM
2

I think there possibly are intellectual differences. Not in terms of capability (although I do think the greater Male variability hypothesis is at the least interesting) but in terms of (very generally) proclivity. I think we’re still trapped in dualism, and I’m not sure the distinction between the mental and the physical is as great as we think it is, although this is totally up for debate (obviously) and will be forever. There’s also the ‘Scandinavian paradox’ which you might find of interest …
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:44 PM
14

Tbf, there’s a lot of pressure on management to achieve gender parity, especially in sectors that have been traditionally dominated by men. Accept it or not, the modern day religion is that men and women are the same, and all differences in career choices/outcomes etc etc are due to socialisation. There are NO innate differences between men and women - the only reason we’re choosing different things in life is the way we’re socialised. So ‘all’ we need to do to achieve gender parity (equality of…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 06:36 AM
3

Yeah, came here to say this. Don’t make any decisions at this point. This is a real crunch point for so many relationships- everyone’s just exhausted. I agree the marriage deal often isn’t great for men, but give this one a bit of cooling off time. Also sorry for your loss.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 07:45 AM
3

I love that. We all know we stand to lose more in every way if we don’t play along.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:21 PM
66

When women say ‘don’t sexualise women’, they almost always mean ‘unless I find you hot’. Both men and women are hypocrites, we just have a society that allows one group to get away with it.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:17 PM
15

ALL the art forms do this now. It’s also the unspoken stuff as well. Try to get through the door of an agent or publisher etc. They’re ‘focussing on underrepresented groups’. You ain’t getting anywhere near anything. OTOH, I admit that the art world was male-dominated for the bulk of history, but at the same time, this kind of open discrimination is going to backfire, and rightly. Tbh, most of the people I’ve seen over-promoted through this kind of thing suck anyway. So just try and do your thin…
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:41 PM
2

As Douglas Murray says (I’m misquoting but I’ll try and get the gist). Women are equal and identical to men in EVERY CONCEIVABLE WAY, yet somehow, mysteriously better’ FWIW, I think women are (generally) different to men, and bring different things to the table. I love working with (good) women just as much as (good) men. But society needs to choose. Either women are different, and that’s going to result in some different outcomes (which we don’t seem able to accept), or they’re the same. In whi…
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:32 AM
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Class blind intersectionality is the 21st Century religion.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:14 PM
1

Yeah, seems that way…
/r/MensRights27/06/22 01:37 PM
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This ‘paving the way’ argument is well-established by now, and it’s very coherent and persuasive. However, isn’t it also fair to say that not all feminism was in favour of minimising these differences, and the differences were overstated in a lot of ways (the classic one being that women didn’t have the mental capacity to be involved in politics for example)? That’s been shown not to be true (although I concede the feminisation of the political sphere has changed the way a lot of politics is don…
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:14 PM
4

😂 It is indeed women (mainly) who create these ridiculous expectations, and then seemingly disparage each other for not meeting them. 99% of the men I know just don’t do all of this stuff. It’s like relentless social pressure. Then they get pissed off with men for not buying into it
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:33 PM
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This x1,000. The school officials are out to get you. They believe her 100%. They’re not your friends at all. Take legal advice asap. Tell your parents. Your future can be destroyed incredibly easily. She will face no repercussions even if she’s made a false allegation. Everyone involved is out to get you. Don’t forget that.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:09 PM
2

‘Clapter’ - isn’t that the term for self-satisfied liberals clapping at other self-satisfied liberals parroting their ‘truths’ at each other? It’s dull.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 08:17 PM
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