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That is good to know some people keep a distinction. But among the younger people who also do things like go crazy over perceived age gaps that are not even that big, I have seen people conflate it and immediately consider it passport broing based on the nationality, because people will immediately say highly derogatory things about these relationships without any qualifiers identifying genuine problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:01 AM
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Marriage was not necessary for sex you can just look in history and see that, but it was necessary for legitimate heirs and social legitimacy. However, even in understandings of marriage that were borne out of more pragmatic and larger family network considerations, the vows still meant something. So people didn't go into marriage with it being as disposable as a marriage might be now between career status maximizers who go into it set in their ways with a "take it or leave it" approach as soon …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:53 AM
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It is one thing if a guy who doesn't know what having smoke blown up his ass feels like gets with a woman who has an ulterior motive, from a dating site or something, and people assess the relationship hoping for the best but worried it won't work out. However people can be happily married in any mixed national relationship for 10 years already and some people still judge them as second class and would never socialize with them, not by any estimate of their love, but because their relationship i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:03 AM
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This might have an element of truth but you would be surprised how often something like this is effectively a community of 2 when people meet and share interests and observations and just hit it off temperamentally about a variety of things. Things like value systems do matter a lot. A lot of what replaces community in my generation is algorithmic fiefdoms based on interests and so forth, while what happens in physical locales is less than pleasant and largely irrelevant. In navigating the lack …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:27 PM
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This would be a valid critique if the term were not used to stigmatize any mixed nationality marriage where the woman's country has a lower avg income. It doesn't matter what the term could be idealized to actually describe, when people do not investigate signs of legitimacy before the entire package of slanderous implications is dropped through the term itself onto the recipient.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:53 PM
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A woman's worth to you in a serious relationship should be a meeting of individual souls, not an object of achievement displayed by the hypothetical competitive position of her abstract difficulty of dating. When 2 status maximizers settle together, I feel sorry for their children if they have any. Cases of genuine love do not have to come from the same social position in the same community as if this is ranked video gaming - something people have noted to make even gaming miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:51 PM
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The entire thing is literally naming the definition of mixed marriages with a pejorative term. If you use a pejorative in language first to describe something, it is twisting the picture by presenting the worst as the most representative even when it is statistically false. This pejorative will then categorically slander people whose actual situations never met the red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:47 PM
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What do you think is happening to countries where up to 9% of the entire population moved to the US from 2020-2024 to load up areas for the next census for house reps, sending money back home? Countries where over 20% of their entire GDP is remittances? You're looking at worry over people freely dating, creating a situation that already happened for other reasons. A small portion of western nations dating diluted over the entire world is not going to newly transform dating in those countries bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:43 PM
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I think the issue is the market is otherwise deregulated in every way including cultural barriers broken, and business and institutions all outsource to the point that once middle class people in first world nations often prosper better with life rafts to middle income countries, avoiding the cost of living crisis. Even couples of shared nationality are doing this. But there is an expectation only in these nations with defiled social conditions that make marriage commitments fail in the bigger p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:35 PM
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They are gold diggers only if they aren't loyal wives who actually love the husband. If you will ding them on the income disparity alone, it should apply equally to all women regardless of nationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:14 PM
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Isn't that the exact same issue as the equivalent proportion of the population in the home country? The only issue to watch is if money provides a false positive because it's the ulterior motive. But when people compare, they should not be comparing the most illegitimate 90 day fiance type relationships to idealized ones in the home country, they have to look at the entire field and consider how people meet and what they have in common. When people look at a guy with zero social skills marrying …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:12 PM
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Just drive a shitty car so people think it's big, and that will save money compared to a lifted truck. This is a bad joke but the truth is how much confidence would matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:51 AM
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Creating dramatically higher likelihood of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:07 AM
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It's not a matter of feat, it's that he's selfishly destroying the future wellbeing of his children because of his sexual impropriety
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:38 AM
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It's generally dumb for a man to be consistently pursuing relationships unless his stock has already shot up and he's actively filtering out etc. It's inorganic to do so from a position of need and it's probably instinctually sensed at some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:26 AM
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Average comes from data, not from an imaginary middle position
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:56 PM
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It's because divorce outcomes are one-sided so they have leverage, and they wouldn't be treated socially as an abuser for this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:23 AM
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The reason these scumbag types like Tate, I mean he's running a porn webcam ring scam, come on, the reason the beautiful women they seek out for "recreation" is just that, is because they are finding women who will basically just have sex with them for money. They are approaching in bad faith so they will remain guarded with their money not get married. Beautiful women who would make stable wives have plenty of options and would not likely go for short term flings with guys who just flash money,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:07 AM
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Men will tend to avoid women who behave dangerously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:35 AM
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A pill can't liberate someone from chains imposed from state violence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:47 AM
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Probably because almost no guy with those attributes finds swinger parties preferable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:44 AM
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Yeah a man with healthy choices will end something with a woman who would play bs games all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:31 AM
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I would agree that formless black hijabs are kinda soulless religious extremism. I am thinking more along the lines of most cultures' traditional dresses around the world which happen to cover the body entirely without avoiding the appearance of gracefulness or beauty. Not saying that someone in 2022 should wear like 18th century clothing but that the underlying principles can work fashionably.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:31 PM
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Nothing exists in a vacuum so you can phrase any type of modesty as a response to thirst. Sometimes, however, it is just a norm in the manner that wearing clothing at all is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:25 AM
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Women often do makeup styles that men don't like and even now the number that exercise to build their body proportions pales in comparison to men. I don't think anyone should complain but the work women do to look better is often spinning in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:19 AM
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Why? Men usually dress modestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 04:45 AM
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You are granting a lot of ground to a socially left (corporate/industrialist) neoliberal worldview that is inconsistent to what anyone who would lean to the right believes. You would have to include the fact that people strongly believe a different morality than you do. There is no idea of sacrificing morality to get social and economic rewards, other than when it comes to foreign policy intervention. The rewards are things like a society with admissions standards and hiring based solely on your…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:59 AM
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They can play the field and push implicitly for favorable treatment from several men at once while maintaining plausible deniability and not cheating on anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:43 PM
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Why should men go out of their way to STUDY women if you think manipulation is a bad thing? If honesty and authenticity present the best possible chance at pairing without resentment or unhappiness, why wouldn't men just spend this time just improving in general and then getting to know the specific woman he might try things out with? I think focusing too much on trying to understand women to be able to appeal or to say that things are unfair, and not enough on what actually drives you in life, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:38 AM
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No I mean socially inadequate just from life. Not handicapped just a well meaning guy who probably didn't charm women when he was young. I am presuming in this scenario the guy has good income to fully support the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:10 AM
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What if they want to be able to provide for someone who sees them reciprocally and it's a way to avoid feelings of inadequacy that would only discourage them? Obviously if young women get with an older guy she is making a safe bet to maybe have more now at the cost of a worse future payoff. Imo the same thing happens to a degree when couples meet long distance or from very different cultures, it is loving around a barrier to try to get a more idyllic connection. I am assuming the younger woman i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:40 AM
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I think women are more like the employers in this instance because they are the ones putting out their criteria and accepting what comes of it. They are both in the position of rejecting a vast amount of opportunity because they want to squeeze out every last drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:23 PM
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The more exposed you are to like benefits as a man attracting women, it is more likely to make you cynical because when women are infatuated with you for superficial reasons it is offputting. Some guys get rejected enough to go full joker but I think guys with some success may have more incentives to develop anti-woman sentiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:58 PM
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I thought people realized that social skills were virtually the only thing that matters in relationships and careers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:48 AM
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Probably just getting married to a top tier man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:55 PM
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You can't solely blame a system of economic organization when people have accepted unknowingly derivative ideologies to willfully follow the desires of industrialists. Just look at immigration undercutting labor as another example. People in horrible marriages will divorce still. You violate the vows it's over. But when policies REWARD divorce you get more of it from the borders. Imagine if parents experienced benefits staying together. They would be more cooperative! I don't know about Eastern …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:02 PM
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Yes so this is all the political ramifications of the sexual revolution, the idea that women and men are individual consumer units in the economy and of this individualism to the max, so if they don't feel like it any more they can just get a no fault divorce and basically default to custody advantages to women with old world support favoring the women, but in a modern labor market that no longer discriminates against women, and enhanced benefits designed to allow women to divorce and maybe even…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:35 AM
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Yeah and the sexual revolution only happened in first world countries. Get with it, I wasn't talking about Sudan. It is the money for children ie together with other help, large immunization from the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:38 PM
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They said "become a bad boy". The lifting alone won't do that if they aren't crazy strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:36 PM
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It isn't as bad with guaranteed food, housing, medical care, and child support payments
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:31 AM
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If they're rational why would they choose a guy with no social proof
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:06 AM
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Probably lift super heavy and use PEDs yeah. But nobody is ready for that without years of training. It will not impress anyone to be using drugs without an impressive physique
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:05 AM
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No they aren't, the state gives them golden parachutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:52 PM
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If you are born with a genetically fit face and stay in any kind of physical shape, you are set. None of this trend bs matters much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:45 AM
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You will never see an extremely pear shaped or busty woman in a film probably even now, that part is true. I think we are still culturally weird about the considered vulgarity of those body types but there are other extremes they won't ever select even though you'd eventually find them at random.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:44 AM
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You do realize there is a real world out there that isn't instagram comments section or Entertainment tonight?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:38 AM
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In every era you see women of different types being attractive based on what they are and having nothing to do with hollywood trends. Big girls and small girls, short girls and tall girls always had men into them. Yes generally hair and makeup techniques follow the times but your assertion about one type of woman dominating because they did on the tv screens, is just fantasy. If you were a pretty and chubby woman in the 1990s with big hips and butt the same guys would have been interested, just …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:37 AM
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Yes, of course they would. When has lying to maintain a moral image ever done anything good? It is a selfish deceit people do for personal advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:05 AM
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Women are raised only to accept a certain standard as capable of marriage because they want to be able to raise kids with safety not hardship. Access to those standards declined by way of machinations of the wealthy and political elite. Many men in this situation are so demoralized they decline to participate, living at home, engaging mostly for hobbies not career, because they don't feel a stake in this broken social situation. Obviously a bunch of apps made approach and socializing in general …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:30 PM
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The western financial and political elite have a disdain of the very nature of humanity that extends so far as to uproot our ties to traditions, communities; to each other. This is inherently unsustainable and processes will revise it over time whether by the decline and fall of the west, or outright rebellions and reforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:11 PM
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It is because they are like a cartel wired to maintain a lie. They have been raised on propaganda and delusions and cherry picking about the past and are so wired after their own interest they will overall never stop this until overwhelming consensus teaches them something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:04 PM
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This is true but sometimes they try to hide it. Usually it is blatant to see through but some autists might miss it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:04 AM
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A healthy balance is completely recognizing these emotional vampires, never dating women like that, and ostracizing them from society
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:53 PM
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Well they would have more competitive marriage and so on but their voting power would be low so you probably wouldn't get no fault divorce gifts. Similarly they would all have choice of a husband to support them but not much room in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:10 AM
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They prefer psychopathic serial killers so long as they don't know, and fall for that shit every time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:23 AM
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Most of this is propaganda by the very people who profit from the destruction of families
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:00 AM
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If you're an adult don't dress like a punk or emo sure. But niches seem to be real. Just take the gym for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:09 PM
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The west is reaching a crisis and likely headed for a depression and political crisis, as well as likely war. 2030s may look like the 1930s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:22 PM
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Height is a normal distribution but I think average bodyfat is skewed upward of the median by a smaller amount of extremely fat people. There is also the issue that women's real bodyfat percent is higher than what people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:44 AM
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There is no rule on this at all. Some women can't gain any fat or they'll look bad. Other women only gain attractiveness with more bodyfat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:42 AM
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You don't realize how much this gives good men a chance. This is the social pact that underpinned men actually giving a fuck and creating civilization as we know it. Yes women should be discriminating and not have sex easily. Yes men will cave to impulses which is why porn is a weapon, but men will also appreciate reasonable pushback and benchmarks to reach with a woman WHO DIDN'T just put out casually for everyone else. So many men don't wanna date like in a legit way before sex solely because …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:15 AM
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Should - of course, but reality is quite another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:50 AM
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You have no idea how much further the pendulum is going to swing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:15 AM
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Men have to pay for 18 years but don't have any choice after conception even if their semen was stolen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:09 AM
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He is supposed to not care. If you care then this wouldn't be a good sustainable choice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:38 AM
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You realize some people are born strongly introverted and cannot hide it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 11:07 AM
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It's probably a result of our entire society failing. Look at the book Bowling Alone. Social trust is gone ans these young men are a part of no community or anything. Totally lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:28 AM
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Probably because it brings out the best in good men, keeps families together (when women control everything by their whims and then by rule don't respect a man the family is destroyed) and puts the onus on a man to respect his obligations and push forward, in diametric opposition to a woman effectively controlling everything and a guy falling into apathetic depression because he will guaranteed lose everything in divorce procedures, which she will hold hostage. Now because good men are told not …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:29 AM
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You're pretending that whatever the blue pill is doesn't involve maintaining active lies that are probably not even believed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:55 PM
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I have grown more aversive to giving contact in that way. The idea of what you want to get out of it has been distorted by being blasted with pornography and pseudopornographic Hollywood propaganda that reduces your worth as a man to nothing since childhood, but all you really get out of it is learning that casual sex doesn't work well and there's no point; certainly not something worth expending any effort. The pain in the ass of people stuff you don't really get any preparation for. It is trul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 01:22 AM
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There is no bare minimum mindset possible for marriage because in today's age there are many things worse for a man than being alone longer - the destruction of a failed marriage could hurt other members of my family and also harm innocent children. So you don't go into anything thinking it is settling or minimum acceptable because that is not how anyone with a real bond thinks and that bond should be necessary for marriage unless you already got pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:27 PM
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The only help you should accept is if she sets you up with someone, wing womans you, or helps you pick better photos. It's hard for them to know stuff that is so contextual and instinctual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:39 AM
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No, I'm not a type of person to resent being alone, I really prefer it to the feeling of needing to get rid of people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:21 AM
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You don't get half of someone's skills and personality in a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:11 AM
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From the OP title alone this is false. They see horrible divorces happen all the time and fear that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:10 AM
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It depends on their ideology and ideals ultimately. Raised in today's world many will ditch a family at the drop of a hat and vows mean nothing. Others like many christian women with real faith will at least give it a chance in earnest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 08:47 PM
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This will probably last about 2 months until the guy gets bored of it and he progressively stops caring, unless he really likes you. But if a guy really likes you, it wouldn't just be about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 10:07 AM
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The type of handsome that women want, you're born with. I have had women into me like that and it's night and day and I don't have to be in good shape at the time. Other times I was an absolute physical specimen and it didn't matter at all. So no this has basically nothing at all to do with self inprovement unless you have sabotaged yourself to horrible levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:58 AM
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Probably a good thing because it will bring pain and decline as a result within 50 years, thus this bad paradigm will have a path to correct itself. Had this not been in the case humanity would have nearly the same problems with modern industrialization, but it would only be further from the circumstances that would form corrective action.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:56 AM
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Probably get to coast as relative free riders in society
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:01 PM
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No, by the time you are living together you should be working out a progression that may one day reach marriage. So imo it would be too soon to live together if you cannot develop a transition plan to begin compromising between financial lifestyles, UNLESS the wealthier partner is frugal and saving so they're just lifestyle matching. Point being you can't break someone's bank demanding they rise up to something they can't afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:34 AM
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Idk I've seen women break up and date again easily all the time. I've had real feelings not work out a few times and it would leave me no options because I would never get anything started with a girl who I didn't feel the same about. Like personally had like 2 times when things ended with me and a girl and she had already dated and broken up with the NEXT guy before I was even fully over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:28 AM
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The entire thing is fucked because what people here call "the red pill" is a specific degenerate group of losers like old Roosh stuff etc that doesn't even encompass 10% of the broader political "red pill" world or its general view on dating which is more like traditionalism and rising to the challenge, not "enjoying the decline".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:15 AM
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Yeah that's the problem, also women who were working before don't want to take the plunge sacrificing their career if the marriage doesn't work out like it's an unsafe feeling probably so despite getting married they are hesitant and hedge their bets by staying in the workforce. It's largely a matter of values and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:11 AM
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That's the case with everyone but the largest pass of wealth will be inheritances. Obviously not a factor with lower income families. Just statistically overall the power and wealth of milennials will increase as others die. And I would agree that these are boomer traits that maybe traditional families sticking together took a hit with the "me" generation. Millennials are the peak of the most isolated and least social generation, and I think Gen Z and younger will bring back communities and bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:50 AM
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We went to the beach once a year. Wasn't like flying to Europe but going to St. Augustine making sand castles with my dad gave me an experience that wouldn't have been topped. But they had to budget for this to happen. We ate home cooked meals (my dad cooked about half the time), didn't live somewhere flashy, didn't have expensive cars, didn't buy expensive clothes, etc. Someone following consumerist pressures to keep up with their peers today might not tolerate the same decisions and maybe the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:16 PM
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Who gets to define "comfortably"? I was raised on a single teacher income and my dad did take a second job teaching college but I had everything needed and more. By any reasonable health and wellness metric it was confortable and secure, but by any 2020 western consumerist metric maybe it was just not good enough. I don't wanna have kids to dump them off in a daycare to be half neglected only so we can buy shit we don't need. Failing your children to provide for them is like dumping the cargo so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:06 PM
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That would seemingly lead gen z to seeking a natural life and traditionalism. By the time they come around millennials will have inherited money from dead boomers also
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:00 PM
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Improving is more important to life than whether you date in a certain time period or not. If you grinded to be somebody in your 20s and 30s you won't ever throw that away unless you pursued something you didn't have a passion for. But if you had girlfriends and partners that you weren't gonna marry, in retrospect it doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:32 AM
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Obviously that wouldn't be as bad as cheating but it is disingenuous emotional manipulation engaging the early ties of courtship and the illusion of exclusive interest - or the explicit invocation of jealousy - to multiple women. Whereas someone going their own way and not trying when they get a raw deal is completely fair with no issue at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:29 PM
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This isn't just about small scale advertiser sensibilities, it is a proactive view of industrialists for hundreds of years to control the press for their ends and modern social media is an extension of the press.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:25 PM
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I have seen stuff like "state mandated waifus" and it was always a joke. Seems like people going over the top to get a rise out of people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:05 AM
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Plate spinning as in talking to several girls at the same time? That's far worse than mgtow wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:04 AM
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No balance needed I saw rotten dot com when I was 12 and yet the only problems I have are from censorship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:59 AM
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Yeah women will be able to have sex but not date certain guys and think dating is harder but will have often missed completely obvious problems they could have fixed that are behavioral, not innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:59 PM
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Blue pillers have double standards because the blue pill is a bunch of lies true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:37 AM
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And when you meet someone like this, by definition it serves as its own justification. Not considered a sacrifice or compromise and no rationalization of "I will shrivel one day" needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:29 AM
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This is a circular argument kind of thing with a redundancy issue. For the companionship to be worth it to a man, even when he's older, the companionship will have to be worth it to him when he's younger at some point. You don't just date women you don't like to lock one down so that you're not lonely when old. You date a woman and get married because you like her, and this should be mutual. If a guy is still playing around and a woman is resentful he won't settle or commit or whatever, either h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:01 AM
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No guy aspires to have a whore wife who chose him for having high social status just like no woman wants her husband to have inspected her like with measuring tape and calipers as if she were an animal specimen. Men who pursue these professions often marry women in similar professions, not just because doctors meet doctors and it's a hard lifestyle they can relate to etc, but because they have a target on their back and the FDS vultures are the exact people they intend to run the fuck away from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:09 PM
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Is coffee better when you haven't had it for a week or if you have a gram of caffeine a day
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 07:58 AM
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Sometimes when I was out with friends back in college I would try to hold the delusion that I could meet someone there and get a gf only to make those times pass. What a depressing time. It's good to grow out of the time you feel expected to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:58 AM
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Yeah girls have been interested in college when I went out but I had nothing in common with them and I'm not particularly social. It's not a good way to meet anyone you're going to date, it is best through friends or hobbies. Then it comes down to chance if you come across someone you mesh with or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:53 AM
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They probably see the pictures of these guys in christmas sweaters matching the dog's. It's seeing relationships where for whatever reason the guy is not behaving dignified. That his behavioral bargaining power is one of servitude and possibly even outright displays of submission and indignities, not of meeting halfway. Chalk it up to whatever you want but this is a social smell test that people seem to detect just as people can often know if a guy is gay for some reason, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:04 AM
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He can just keep up the sigma grindset
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:29 PM
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Most of the anxiety will come from either some type of unfamiliarity with the situations and feeling pressure, or a known incompatibility that your real self will not really relate at all. If the latter is the case then you just gotta find how to comfortably navigate meeting people on your own terms without trying to be an image you think you're supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:19 AM
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Having the presumption of innocence and trust from strangers and authorities
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:54 PM
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I think the point might be that those women that do are overrepresented in OLD. Most women don't use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:35 PM
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I think it keeps many slightly above average men from sleeping with average or below average women that they might have pursued without porn. When you combine some of the social factors that would make it reluctant even more now than 2 decades ago on top of the normal issues (stds, what if she seemed sober but totally flips the script, what if you break a condom, what if she's clingy and weird and it becomes a whole ordeal)... A lot of guys are just gonna jerk it to porn and thus stave off some …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:29 PM
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This is because women aren't men. Why would you assume that because these women can be so shallow that men can be? If he is not pulling big money why shouldn't he strive and fight against mediocrity to develop himself and be a smarter, better rounded person? If it doesn't help dating it's only better for him anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:08 AM
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Post industrial society and its consequences have been a magnificent social failure. I agree that men and women want to be treated human. Communities gone and the social and economic conditions of modernity have brought this about. It would be government's role to guide markets to serve the people, but because government represents the industrialists, they have stepped on the gas pedal in terms of radical deconstructive changes which serve to alienate, isolate, and exploit the common person, man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:17 AM
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People with ASD suffer here often
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:02 AM
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Maybe if I pushed my IG more into the music I do it would make more sense. Using my IG just to track lifts in the gym, that space is oversaturated and there is a sexual attention nature that makes it seem parasocial to try to hit up these girls. Plus it is something to do, but not much to discuss about it. But in the music space I think it would be more comfortable to socialize without it being weird. I'm probably biased against it because I haven't found enclaves where it seems right to do and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:16 AM
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I don't talk to anyone on instagram really unless I know them from facebook. What are you supposed to do, follow them and start dming? Doesn't make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 09:50 PM
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I don't believe this but it would be extremely simple to rationalize. Women are biologically geared differently with sacrifices to functionality (wide hips, q angle, metabolic differences, neurological differences inhibiting peak power output) so that they can survive childbirth and nurse and raise children successfully. The physical ones are obvious. Mentally, I wouldn't say women are inferior at all, their bell curve just has fewer at the tail ends (as they all matter, less variation ensures m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:12 PM
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The hell? It introduces personal and medical problems and there is still a behavioral significance even if you have no moral issues with it. People tend to either grow out of this and/or suffer heavily
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:48 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:53 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:19 PM
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This depends on the person and the context. I wouldn't start forced convo over practically nothing but if there was a real reason then it's ok. I don't go hitting on women anyway though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:43 PM
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Social standards, app regulations, defund uni critical theory and gender studies nonsense, give tax money to married couples, with more the younger they are. Take the money back from both if they get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:49 AM
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They probably have many ways of coping with the fact those guys wouldn't want to be seen with them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 08:22 PM
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I would say that when both the man and the woman had their time before then it just needs a separation and becomes "don't ask don't tell" kind of thing where both know not to go digging because they assume the other had this kind of life before. I would say this type of thing is different than if the man personally saw her sleeping around before or was in the same friend group etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:05 AM
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Yeah that there is a variety is probably the best way to put it. Some guys will pressure for sex under any circumstance just because they want to get what they want. Others are capable of waiting with the process of a serious relationship unfolding to varying degrees of strictness, but generally guys are not going to go along with that if they see the woman was just having casual sex because they are being controlled in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 01:45 AM
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There is truth to both this and the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 01:13 AM
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This is mostly about unsolicited ones and then women in most settings won't wanna be the one who says she likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:31 PM
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Yeah there is a phenotype of anomalies who would have been rare in history because it would take a serious medical condition to cause that level of hypogonadism but it is more normal now because of environmental contaminants in phthalates and other endocrine disruptors making many men have testosterone levels 1/4th of what they should be, like 250 ng/dl instead of 1,000. See the video where the try guys get their testosterone checked. You can even look at them and tell something has gone wrong i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:14 AM
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It slightly hurts my feelings having things sour with a woman or really the tension from seeing parts of yourself suppressed for something that will never work and I feel like a piece of me is taken so I don't want to burn out my energy for women who aren't worth it. It is a sacrifice to let someone into your life and I am starting to realize the nature of past mistakes even with a low n count. If even I realize this then how deluded can some women be? Outside of a western consumer ideology prop…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:46 AM
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Individual people can change immediate effects within their own life with these practices but not structural ones. At best they can form a small enclave with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:40 AM
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Yeah I'm just not saying this is a personal issue so much as it reflects flaws in our social organization about new technology that we have allowed to serve monopoly/intelligence agency interests and not humanitarian ones. Individual best practices aside, doesn't negate observations of flaws in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:28 AM
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This is a fairly objective take from social metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:04 AM
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There are lies in almost every layer and interpretation of these things as being actual traits in our societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:23 PM
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How are equality and freedom not lies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:23 PM
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We have depression and social disconnectivity worse than ever despite material wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:22 PM
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The most recent election didn't really show anything because it shifted to mail ballots and statistically you would never draw a comparison from A to B with different sampling methods. Maybe that is why Biden won the primary, black voters would not tolerate woke stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:20 PM
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Organic forces are subverted by modern power structures
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 06:07 AM
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Those women have less testosterone 100% because of estrogen birth control. This is why it works to treat acne, and usually why they get depressed. Women have so much less testosterone it's hard to tell what microplastics so to them. Seems to affect males worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 09:10 AM
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That's because those are the women you won't even seriously consider dating because "then what?" No connection, no appeal to further stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 07:29 AM
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I would maybe prefer a nonvirgin but not too much to have inability to pair bond, because I am 29 and how I fare against past experiences would be a relative advantage where my social status or handsomeness are not. As I see it now, I am not looking to get kinkiness out of a relationship. While maintaining realism that neither of us are naive, I would still like to maintain a relationship that brings out the nobler capabilities of myself as a person and hopefully she'd feel the same way. If I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:05 AM
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The divorce rate per population doesn't matter. You cannot conflate that with the divorce per marriage rate. It could be the case that it is also falling, but it could also be that this is an artifact of so mant fewer new marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:17 AM
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I am saying that both have a role in telling the truth and both have a role in reasonably reading people. It goes both ways. The safety thing is a bit of bad faith because it would never involve them making a risk, just like it's not much of a risk getting rejected if you read a woman. If she turns you down, if she gave genuine receptivity signs and it's not an inappropriate setting, it won't be a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:47 AM
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This doesn't explain how many times they could have read situations and given real rejections, but push it off with enabling excuses to keep the guy in the worst area of "so maybe there's a chance" delusion. It is self-aggrandizing to do this and many women drag things out if not deliberately for attention, in error thinking it would have made it easier or nicer when it turns out it does not. Just as a guy has to read a woman to know where he can put moves on or if it will be a brutal rejection …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:29 AM
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It's not alpha to just not do anything. Work like everybody else and it would be better in all cases to have a wife who actually respects you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:23 PM
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Maybe some that are driven to follow resources more than other factors, which helps our species survive, are otherwise quite cold and indifferent when their life will be comfortable, AND they are living in highly populated times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:49 AM
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Oh ok I can only see part of the thread now so I missed that one. I was relating it back to intelligence, that competence in most of these careers guarantees little, and to my earlier point, little for the cost it may bring. Now if she isn't a big spender or doesn't discourage any frugality that's ok, there are exceptions to every trend, especially weaker trends. Competence is interesting, do they mean competence in something important enough to earn a good living as a social qualification? That…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:23 AM
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Did I say competency or intelligence? This was last night I think but my idea was that a successful income has little correlation with intelligence. Someone elaborated upon that by referencing that a correlation between intelligence and success in careers overall no longer exists above a 120 iq. Idk why this is shifted to competence. The idea that a more intelligent person nearly always makes more income is also shown untrue by looking at intelligence and income among MBTI types. I don't think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:04 AM
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"Ambition" within the job yes. It has no overall correlation that I see with becoming a more cultured person or pursuing more interesting ideas. Competence in the field is given but like someone said, it gets most of the way there with 110 iq and anything above 120 iq shows little career benefit. The biggest way to succeed is to be dedicated and the easiest way to be dedicated is to allocate more mental resources toward that career. If it is not an interesting career and yet there is that dedica…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 10:59 PM
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I also think this probably correlates a lot with actual iq. When you get an iq with some serious firepower and combine it with trait openness to experience you get interesting ideas. In facebook groups for instance I knew loosely a woman who was a speech and language pathologist who was almost an airhead yet I assume capable of the field. Knew another woman similar age who was working a crappy tech support gig who has the INTP personality type incidentally, and just has so much more awareness fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:39 AM
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I am talking about being able to discuss something clever, nuanced thought, philosophy art sociology, etc. There is a rote intelligence that people with higher iqs can take for granted having higher working memory and so on for memorization, and if they have no interest whatsoever in higher concepts that don't serve their material needs, there isn't much spark to their intellect. So saying imo I can look at a variety of fields and the money and social status rarely maps as one thinks toward some…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:23 AM
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Some of them are certainly less demanding than women who worked hard to earn like $200k/year or something with good status and reputation. Because they worked hard for it they sometimes tend to view things with that lens. It is their right, but if their money only shows itself as a demand of spending liability to you, it is a detraction. There are a lot of assumptions there but it is only a generalization to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:13 AM
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I see a really weak correlation between that and income. Has more to do with prioritization and little at all to do with intelligence, until you get into engineers and programmers etc. I haven't seen a significant boost in intelligence among the friends who went into the medical field for example. But when all of the intelligence is the same and one makes more money, you can almost rest assured their need for you to spend MORE money will far outweigh what they make, so you're worse off because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:51 AM
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Well yeah men know to if anything, avoid women who make a lot of money because their standards go up while literally nothing else about them is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:30 AM
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This is just a natural consequence of main culture hence feminist attitudes toward men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:17 PM
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There is solo porn but it can also protect men from women they should not be involved with, as insidious a thing it may be long term. Yeah porn is bad but going after women because you are lonely/horny is far worse if you gey involved, so a man going free from porn, as should be done, must be accompanied with appropriate restraint. Maybe scheduling masturbation and forcing it fast only to one's thoughts is a healthy maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:30 AM
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How does that make any sense? 30 year old men can easily marry 20 year old women if that woman wants to get married and have kids soon. The issue is just that obviously most don't and women still change a lot from 20 to 26. The amount of women who want that is less here, but for those that do they usually have to find either an older guy (30+) or an established tradesman working a lot of hours if they want security. I'm not personally involved in this debate I just wanted to note that men who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:56 AM
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Could be either way but he was a steroid dealer and he might have been doing it even before synthol started being a thing. I think that's how sight enhancement oils started, people started adding more and more gear to arms delts etc but people optimize the type of oil and add a little painkiller. It can be noted that those horribly Brazilian synthol people etc are likely not even using proper synthol, could have been using like straight mct oil
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:54 PM
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Yeah no guy will accidentally get too jacked to be attractive, if steroids made him lose favor it would only be by uncontrolled acne, gyno, balding, or a woman who would not want to date a guy using them on like the principle of the matter. This perception is because most people are only aware of a minority of steroid users.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:46 AM
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I agree, but I am just breaking down the implications of the terminology to make a point about mindset, the big one you see in people when they have successful loving relationships in which a connection has transcended cynical factors. I don't mean to imply that someone thinking the term LTR has bad intent, but I looked into that term to make a point. Yes speaking directly about marriage can be scary and you don't wanna spook people before you even have a strong connection. But in the abstract w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:51 AM
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Yeah just by chance if everyone were equal, the psychological effect and lack of social proof from bad coin flips will aggregate the good fortune in some and others will pass a threshold of loss that is difficult to overcome, because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:45 AM
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By your logic the world distribution of power or interests would be at least somewhat egalitarian, AT LEAST within the leading faction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:19 AM
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You think it is that easy to disintegrate a global order of power centered on the financial system and upheld by superpower military?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:18 AM
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0% without drugs, small percent with performance enhancing drugs unless the drug use gets very extreme and/or displeasing side effects are notable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:13 AM
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There is a process I might make up a name and call it "rehumanization" where when someone actually gets to know a really jacked guy, when he has good qualities of a realistic healthy personality that destroys the stereotypes involved, everything women once said negatively about muscles no longer applies. It even becomes a beauty and the beast kind of thing where a huge jacked guy being tender, if he were small avg nobody would give a shit but because he is huge it suddenly becomes this big virtu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 12:12 AM
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There is no "long term partner" to start. Noncommittal language. It is marriage or you are likely getting "traded in". Not that marriages always work out but if you don't get to a place where you both sincerely believe the vows and want to do it, how is it going to last? It is also the case that if your pairing up process is cynical, his might be more likely cynical as well. Trust, sincerity, bonding, all these things are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:34 PM
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There is no "long term partner" to start. Noncommittal language. It is marriage or you are likely getting "traded in". Not that marriages always work out but if you don't get to a place where you both sincerely believe the vows and want to do it, how is it going to last? It is also the case that if your pairing up process is cynical, his might be more likely cynical as well. Trust, sincerity, bonding, all these things are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:34 PM
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PMMA site enhancement in addition to normal ped's and training. Greg Valentino injected such a large volume of gear itself that the oils accumulated the way synthol would. I think he said when he was taken into prison it was like 6 months or a year before he really "came off" because there was so much gear in the oil that hadn't dissipated yet. Delayed release lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:21 PM
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I have fun explaining this stuff. That indeed would happen eventually if someone went straight on gear with nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:17 PM
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Look up Georg Hackenschmidt. He looked like a jacked athlete but by no means a bodybuilder. His strength numbers were insane. People would not really see him as a freak in development but he was back then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:32 PM
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Not that it's futile to max out your natural muscle, just that the natural max is basically never freaky to typical modern eyes because drug physiques are everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 11:59 AM
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Most? Maybe if the some kind is so diluted that the definition of abuse doesn't meet the mental image people have from that claim
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:58 AM
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Yes but don't expect that logic to work because it would show stuff like men in their late twenties having less experience than 21 year old women etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:53 AM
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Maybe it's like a bad trait that women don't like in men. For instance if women are moderately insecure, it doesn't really bother me. It can be endearing because you want to make her feel better and you can feel good for making her feel good. In small amounts that is, where it can be remedied. It obviously gets bad if you're never trusted, if there's no way to win against wallowing in self-pity, if it's used to justify or causes bad behaviors like cheating, etc. There are cases of women having v…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:19 AM
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People can use hcg or hmg basically these are hormones that give the testicles instructions to keep producing and it prevents fibrosis / tissue damage and reduces atrophy. So having too much testosterone (from injecting it) tells your body to stop making it because that's the feedback system that governs optimal levels. People take the hormone(s) that tells it to keep going and it prevents testicle shrinkage and makes recovery easier. The natural hormones are LH and FSH. HMG is actually processe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:45 AM
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Which men are shocked? People are trying to speak on the general trends, not the variation. (The theory about relative scarcity does address it both ways. ) I don't think anything presupposed women all agreeing, only for it being general enough to affect experience. For instance, noticing some guys having a lot of attention and others struggling to have any attraction whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:36 AM
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Chubby women tend to like it too but maybe more like giant powerlifters or general juiceheads, not actual competition bodybuilders
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:31 AM
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Most dudes on drugs will never be in the too muscular range. I don't think a natural physique has ever been in the too muscular range unless you're talking women who really don't like muscularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:29 AM
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The issue is that steroids are just drugs that grow real tissue whereas implants are fake. Implant women might be a bit more like synthol users and guys like Rich Piana
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 03:27 AM
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Your point about dishonest opting out is why I had the point that marriage already solved the issue. The government provides the bulk of the safety net anyway, and should in cases where the father just had sex. I agree on an individual level men need to refute current permissive ideas on sex and take it more seriously. But what is right for governance is another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:10 PM
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This is like as if so many women who are all allowed to use a variety of contraception or give up a baby for free, cannot track down who a father is (who never consented to having a child anyway). If it's your body your choice then it is also your choice your pay if the guy is someone who just fucked and never opted for that. Some women like having it both ways but respectable women don't like this system. There was already a successful opt-in social credit system resolving all of this and it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 09:06 PM
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It should be required by law so that fathers don't have to ruin their marriage pushing for it. Either that or at the VERY LEAST, requiring confirmation of paternity BEFORE any child support payment can go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 08:59 PM
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Industrial first world societies coasting in the modern era seem to favor cowards and people who submit to authority whether it is just or not. Maybe there is more space for the others to find success on their own as entrepreneurs, but it is certainly not cultivated in the corporate or academic world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:01 AM
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I have seen studies where this happens and reports where women have to waste time explaining things because clients will doubt them etc. The high school club example just seemed way too prototypical of someone being overlooked in the way that happens to everyone who gets stepped on. Reminds me of school experiences for sure and I have seen many similar situations in which girls happened to be advantaged in matters of pure favoritism. Now if sufficient conditions that form workplaces map this phe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:46 AM
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Isn't it a bit unfalsifiable to determine definitively if this treatment was based on your sex and not say based on your social status?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:46 AM
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There are two sides to the coin. Influencing people in a majority white country, it makes sense that it would be easier as the majority due to ingroup biases that all people have. But legally people have access to special loans, grants, and preferential choice for contracts if they are one of the right minorities. Given the same ability, it is more optimal to exploit a gradient where you are given an explicit advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:38 AM
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Everyone presumes their own magnificent competence and they only think their demographic is the pitfall in their inability to influence people sufficiently. Yes when you haven't worked the social cards in your favor, people do not give you the time of day. Others get credit for your ideas which were dismissed or ignored, etc. Just keep in mind that it is basically unfalsifiable determining if it is your demographic or it is your personality or whatever that is the actual root cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:34 AM
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Have you ever thought of the liability to false accusations working with women or children? Also if you own a business and want government contracts but you're white. Being a woman owning it automatically grants you preference in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:30 AM
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She made the mistake of going all out. Which to be fair that was the point of her limited time project. Guys living their actual lives need points of comfort and stability, not always in the mood to get beaten up and rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:09 PM
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I don't accept my current life and town so I don't want to drag a girl through this when I need to reevaluate and build my future. Maybe it's a bad excuse not to try meeting anyone, but it also takes energy to do that, and I would want to be caring and emotionally supportive but I cannot give up my future and goals during this period just to be a good partner. As to why I didn't get a relationship earlier in college, I am introverted so what are your odds gonna be when the possibility was only w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 10:27 PM
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Sometimes I want it to be able to socialize with her friends and make it easier to do things with my friends who are married but that is only a perk, I would never want to waste a nice girl's time or hurt her feelings by getting involved if I didn't truly have feelings for her and know there was a chance it could work out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:48 AM
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AWALT - it's just a cope to be so bitter you can't have a human interaction again without being cynical about it. Red pill people have figured out a few things that are not good for your mind to focus on, but they have simultaneously stunted themselves and got into a way of making everything an excuse or complaint. Like if they look at dysgenic effects and bad incentives in society, they should also look at the ones they fall prey to and correct them. Their problem is being too obsessed with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:46 AM
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Something to the tune of fuck standards we should focus on original music and new improv covers would not be unexpected for modern jazz musician communities, especially the ones I am in on facebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:05 PM
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I thought this post was in a jazz subreddit at first LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:24 PM
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I think the majority of women can hate what an ex did without saying it was because he was "low value" and thereby hating other "low value" men she decides are such. Women are usually a lot more normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:16 PM
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This might be that women see less hostility to outgroups because there is more of an emotional appeal to them, they also prefer a collective paternal mitigation of their own personal risks with the state as a provider (women are more risk averse overall), and women are more swayed by forms of authority and consensus such as in the intellectual underpinnings of our entire lives in western countries being a completely left wing one. In insular religious communities, women are some of the biggest a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 07:29 AM
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2 without question. 80k isn't a lot but when I grew up, we lived on 1 teacher salary and what made the difference is that my parents were there for me. The extra money as I got older didn't change anything, money is only more valuable to a kid than time if you actually couldn't take care of them well. Granted my parents budgeted well of course. People bad with money may really need the 2nd job as a buffer. Funny anecdote that my dad had to get rid of the Ford Pinto and get a Mercury Sable when I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:49 AM
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Yeah I mean it's obviously ridiculous to contribute no income or housework
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:54 AM
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Men have greater safety risks in dating than you would think because if we fall in love and get betrayed or the woman is just crazy or whatever it is one of the few things that can entirely destroy a man's life. Think about how much time it takes away from pursuing your goals, how much money it takes even without divorce, and the vulnerability to emotional abuse and just a torrent of shit slinging. These are risks for men and women but women have institutional protection and social trust to para…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 01:33 AM
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I say equivalent. They can't get a successful relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 12:49 AM
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Yeah they're like incels coping because there's delusion that a low value male was lower, him cheating or being indifferent or otherwise not worshipping her bruised her ego, and the cope is that it or they were bad men and she has to find a high value one, to make her feel as if none of it had to do with her. It is the exact same thing people say that some incels of the picky type are not able to realize their own league.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:55 AM
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Only if that man is also ruthless and sociopathic and they form like a Bill Hillary kind of relationship. I don't think FDS women are the high achieving sociopaths type so much as they are like the equivalent of incels though. The realistic scenario is that this stuff is only possible if she hides it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 05:52 AM
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This probably isn't for them. It is for the rest of the world before young women get pulled down a bad path in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:43 AM
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Mozart was tiny as well and married, but I do think height factored into these overall. The other thing is that these clearly brilliant men were not neurotypical. They were obsessive, capable of hyperfocus, and extreme pattern recognition. It is just worthwhile to understand that I saw serious scholars mention height when we might imagine that women then didn't care. The other common thread is an outsider victim complex, one man against the world kind of heroism seen in Beethoven's everything as…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 01:04 AM
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Wow things have fallen off significantly lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:11 AM
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I almost dated a woman who is 6'0" and she knew I was 5'10". Granted it was long distance and didn't work out for other reasons. There are a lot of short women who demand 6'0"+ like to balance out their genes or to live out their fantasy or whatever it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:33 AM
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I never thought much about it because I'm 5'10" but I know if I were tall with comparably good structure I'd have been monstrously huge with the lifting I did and that may have made things different. Like having that strength and power niche doesn't necessarily mean so much to women at average height when the most consonant display of archetypal traits toward that set of tastes could be a tall guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:30 AM
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It is part of the reason you see the careers of Schubert, Beethoven, and Brahms were so impressive. They were tiny in height, 5'4" or shorter, which among other things virtually ensured they would never have a normal marriage and that kind of happy life. Schubert didn't quite live long enough for that to be the case so much but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:25 AM
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Tall women seem less likely to have as strict height requirements as you would expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:21 AM
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Short, ugly, with a social impairment, disfigured by a deformity, or has poor development and genetics for building muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:13 AM
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I may need to correct my terminology a bit as redpill in the dating space may solely mean this pickup artist kind of garbage. Even if there is some truth involved in that, those men in that phase are no good. But redpill as far as facts around the issues and being traditional, that is a solid investment because his committment to you means something and he is not easily swayed by changes that may happen and make you inconvenient
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:49 AM
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Because any man who isn't (depending on the definition of redpill, I don't mean the PUA stuff gross) is either a coward, too thoughtless to have any opinions on sociological issues, or a liar and those things have negative repercussions. You can take the reality and create productive responses to it, obviously no woman wants to be with a guy who is in despair because he is unsuccessful. But if someone excessively tempers their beliefs based on what sounds good, their person to YOU will also invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:43 AM
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when it's just normal guys wanting to have reasonable relationships like their own parents had one day lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 09:36 PM
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Military and labor use of men isn't because of perception, it is because men are physically stronger. Learning stoicism isn't damaging and when women point out not wanting to do emotional labor / be a therapist or when guys have toxic behaviors, it is usually emotional dysregulation and outbursting. Thinking about your problems and processing them before just dumping it all on people and using discretion is just part of being a considerate adult. This post is a perfect example of the establishme…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:47 AM
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I matched energy trying not to be clingy in a long distance prospective relationship and it ended because of it. I was the one waiting. Clearly she was finding a way to blame me to end it, either that or trying to find a guy with no spine. I was not going to be guilt tripped for HER drifting away for like a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 08:28 AM
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Yeah, the difference is probably that they feel the issue is systematically unaddressed when women are perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:32 AM
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They are only less honest about this idk why
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:32 AM
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There's not any purpose to trying to find an overall answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:50 PM
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That's because in areas and time periods it became taboo or illegal, quality men would not subject their life to that. But in times where it was accepted, better men still maybe did it more than they would later.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:35 PM
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The graphs of productivity and wages show they decouple after 1972 and that's also when the Bretton-Woods system ended
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:37 PM
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Real wages since 1972 yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:34 AM
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Some women try to demand obsession and indifference at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:53 AM
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Yes I agree and men like to do the same thing. I at least wanted to get laid when I was younger and still will if it's convenient and/or the woman has different goals and a different place in life so I can guarantee it being nothing more will be mutual. Lately I wouldn't wanna bother unless the woman was unreasonably attractive to me. But I don't really feel like the online nudes dtf in the bag before meeting kind of thing. Would want to get to know a woman I could marry and have kids with relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:25 AM
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I was responding to the general case. As to your actual story the guy looks like a fool to spring that then. I cannot know whether you "should have known" but he fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:26 AM
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No, it could be if you have actually gained his trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:24 AM
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Yeah if I could see marrying her I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:06 AM
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You should look into your own mind and realize it makes some sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:01 AM
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This is about women who fuck other guys but not them. If they have a real chance from a woman who is believable, the woman will have good faith efforts to get to know the man and progress the relationship. She will not be using him for ego and humiliate him. These men have not encountered those high trust situations. This post will read to them that they are suckers, you know they are, and they'll have to eat a shit sandwich and accept humiliation to get a match. I don't buy this narrative. Perh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:00 AM
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You have no idea how much men on tren can love fat chicks read the stories lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:54 AM
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A lot of women call it dad bod if you're actually huge but just not lean. Like I have 19.5" arms but a big waist too and some women who say they like dadbods really mean that, and if some guy is really just skinnyfat and out of shape like Seth Rogen they won't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:52 AM
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If a guy dresses alt and he's trying to go for college educated women then he already failed unless he's going for baristas socializing at open mic nights or something. Should dress like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:48 AM
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Yeah he doesn't understand if he's a pencilneck type that is considered very low. If you're 5'10" and 175 lbs rock hard shredded that is what small but athletic for an adult man. And how would he know these women wouldn't prefer 215 lb men who look like they lift even with clothes on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:43 AM
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You should get jacked then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:40 AM
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This isn't so much the case because it has become pick and choose
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:19 AM
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Men don't need help so much. They need to reverse policies that are contrived by less than 1% which end up destroying entire communities and ruining everything for the common person
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 08:58 AM
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That's just their current opinion because they either never entered an applicable situation, or the women who didn't wanna fuck were sleeping with others. If a worthy woman holds out but gives them a chance to build something and it is sincere, they may be convinced otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:27 AM
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Women who are themselves untrusting and cynical may have no idea how much that will cause men they date to mirror it. You don't have to commit to anything tangibly different or risky but it's a vibes thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:08 AM
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You have said this so on the mark it seems you have maybe even figured it out yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:20 AM
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For more of us this is just a reality that we don't get close with anyone worth dating. But yeah if a girl is a nice girl like marriage material for somebody but not a match for you, there's no sense wasting her time either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:25 AM
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As for confidence projected faulty ways, with women on social media the term confidence usually ends up used as a trope in some form of just being louder or wearing more revealing clothing which are superficial. Not about sticking to a risky idea you knew was right and taking considerable risk to commit to, or anything else in the entire spectrum of potential actions outside of the narrow trope
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:11 AM
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"Knowing your worth" phrased as avoiding abuse can just be an excuse to make everything revolve around you and frame someone else who is actually in that type of situation. Most cases of emotional abusers frame themselves as a victim - it is often the people who never stop posting that type of stuff who are the biggest problem causers. It is a "doth protest too much" situation where everything about it really just depends on the actual facts in the matter and if they're bullshitting or not. Thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:07 AM
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In our culture confidence is used as a mask for vice and abuse and it's projected in really faulty and superficial ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:25 AM
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Just find existing couples where the woman is stronger than the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:35 AM
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A high value man to women is a guy who has appeal to many women but it is also based on sound fundamentals of healthy life and relationships that can last long term and can also ensure that children will be healthy and raised lovingly and wisely. Having good career and social status improve those odds. Being faithful and considerate is important too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 05:21 AM
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There are many things that come along with this but you're picking only one factor as explaining the difference which is only a guess. For instance during this time our societies have also had traditional community ties replaced by consumer goods, services, and consumption oriented life values. So you could say women having rights is responsible for lower birthrates but it could be prevailing consumption and leisure prioritizing social norms responsible, or social hierarchies based on formal car…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:57 PM
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I don't take it personally like to hate on anyone, but it simply makes the entire world a worse place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 08:31 PM
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You did wonderful hard work here but everyone who is willing to take in fact and not just a bad actor already knows this. The people you did this work to convince have handfuls of dirty tricks and will never cede the power that lies give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:19 AM
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It's common for the most dedicated bodybuilders and powerlifters to wear oversize shirts (or hoodies when it's cold). They would never do that if there were any disadvantage. String tanktops are just about showing off and looking at pump / progress
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:17 AM
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It is annoying. These women are trying to bait you to catch you looking or whatever which is really just a hostile takeover of space the more of them there are. I have talked about this with a gay male friend and he was able to confirm this. The women obviously didn't know he was gay and they were trying to catch him looking by their behavior and reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:10 AM
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Some women go for guys they know they can keep but if women are stuck single then either they're crazy or that's true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:58 AM
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This is just cherry picked. Anyone can make claims out of thin air like this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:48 AM
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Women will put men deliberately into disrespectful situations where it requires him to show dominance and possessiveness for her to ever respect him again
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:51 AM
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Well I specified without drugs. If you stay lean enough to be healthy and aren't using PEDs, you can't get /that/ big. Like the world's best natural bodybuilders who don't cheat don't have enough muscle to be unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:29 AM
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You said being ripped wasn't the way to go and people can get ripped naturally. Most bf percent is way higher than people think and nearly anyone has abs at 12% bf which is enough to keep hormones good, better than they are at 20% which isn't even fat
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:27 AM
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The risk of injury is smaller than any team sports and the types of injuries are not likely to be much of an issue, whereas people who don't lift are more likely to break a hip when old which can be lethal. This type of bodybuilding IS basic weight training. 1 rep maxes increase risk so training for hypertrophy is more general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:24 AM
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Doing bodybuilding style exercise and getting as large as one can with a 6 pack without doing drugs is actually very healthy. It is only getting competition shredded that makes hormone levels tank
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:05 PM
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The internet especially controlled social media is absurd sometimes. I'm glad the majority of women don't seem to be so drawn into that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:41 AM
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There isn't anything to deal with. I just gave an example of the fact that people significantly vary. There is an argument that men are stereotyped if people do not realize this large contingent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:32 PM
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A good portion of women just wanna fuck but nobody takes that to be everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:13 PM
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I don't know the extent women realize that many men just want a woman they can love safely and feel affection without tons of drama and pain. We wanna embrace and feel comfort and love and make the pain and anxiety of the world go away if only for some moments, and then keep doing that and get married and have kids. But when you have strong feelings for a woman it can turn into the worst nightmare so those who can work through issues respectfully without trying to emotionally manipulate or cause…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:43 AM
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It is expected these men do things they don't wanna do, like work a harder job that pays better, for the wife. You can't expect it to always work out if you don't make someone happy and you are determined not to, and that goes to men and women. Men don't always wanna fuck their wives either and that can ruin a marriage just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:04 AM
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Women on the other hand will still have sex with men whose views they hate because they like them for other reasons and can at least respect that the guy says what he thinks without being afraid of the consequences. If it becomes suspected you are just agreeing for the sake of it you'll be rightly seen as weak
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:23 PM
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But but it is the people most invested in destroying western traditions who perpetuate the lies. Traditionally women have been seen as capable of bringing ruin to men and yet all of that has been sanitized from conceptions wherever it is not condemned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:29 AM
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Think about what they gain from lying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:37 AM
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The concept of general intelligence has been well studied and the manner in which it tends to carry over to a broad range of areas is what gives psychometric validity. It is only through ulterior motivations that people create a strawman on this to tear it down. With it also being known that extroverts fare better in social categories, status, etc, it shouldn't be so difficult to have to qualify the fact that introverts average higher in iq. There is also a stronger relationship the smarter peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 09:05 PM
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Norm MacDonald could dominate live talk shows and he seemed like a clear introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:37 PM
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That's just a fact whenever they measure the avg iq of different personality factors
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 05:33 PM
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Yeah I mean it could be that a true lifelong level match should always change a guy to be ready. Certainly if you don't change him, he doesn't feel that strong impetus
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:18 AM
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Redpill is stupid made up coomer nonsense mixed with a little info on women. Yes there was a purpose to traditions and average people were better off under the restrictive norms of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:24 AM
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4chan is anonymous and contrarian though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:33 PM
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That is a good thing that people who look bad are trying to get in better shape. I would say the other way around though at least my towns gyms are full of guys with good strength, both roiders and natural. Back in the 1960s you would never see so many ordinary hobbyists built so well. Women don't need a guy to be that BIG but if you pursue whatever route you like, bulking without getting too fat, or getting shredded, or doing sports, it doesn't count against you when women get to know you. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:49 PM
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If you use a squat rack, coming after 9 pm is your best bet yeah. Nothing feels worse than being rearing to go around 7 pm and having to awkwardly wait like 30 mins in a crowded area
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:43 PM
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I don't think it means love is false. Only that it's a prerequisite before that can develop sometimes. Like if you're not attracted to a woman even if you would care about her, you wouldn't wanna do that to someone you care about if the feeling of attraction isn't there. We have an economic system that is now making rising generations worse off, with the expectation baked in that things must be better off. So musical chairs for women riding the upward progress train and men left behind by econom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 08:42 PM
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Birth control pill / sexual liberation social views Real wages haven't kept up with production ever since 1972
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:36 AM
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I think it depends on how much he is trying to demean her or how much it is a reality check regarding maintaining a realistic assessment of her abilities and judgment so that she does not do something dangerous. You can see it from the abusive angle real easy, keep her self-esteem low because she could not leave. It could also be like, she could mess up and hurt herself or her child if she does not consult and trust him. Because if you said she needs help in life, she does. She has to have his j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:44 PM
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It's a control freak situation and there are men and women who are control freaks, that's just the social manifestation in men I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:39 PM
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It seems the same if you're just generalizing different people together incoherently. I also don't have an issue with studying and working, it's just a problem to prop it up in one's life as a false idol. It's bad even for men to be corporate career men but if they suffer to give their family a better life that's one thing. A woman putting off kids or having them and not being there is a bigger problem, for her and the kids. And yes women should prioritize finding a man who can provide for her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:30 PM
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I'm not sure the distinction. Certainly the impact varies person to person. It can also change a lot if they have just a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 05:19 AM
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It is also unethical what people often do to move up in the world. Power games, dishonesty
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:14 PM
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Hopefully you will find other guys also welcoming this and agreeing with you because I think it's the best way too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:38 PM
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I was emphasizing just why this isn't some option guys often have but turn down. Because, as we agree, you do not contrive something, if your social web is not a web but a series of strings, you enjoy those isolated friends and what get togethers you can still have, but it is not likely to introduce you to anyone unless it's more of a web. In my case, everyone left this town because it has no jobs and it's just college students. Many other late 20s men moved for work or what have you. We would l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:27 PM
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I don't really have many female friends in my town any more other than a really good childhood family friend and someone else I knew online who moved here, because it's a shitty small university town and everyone moved away. Aside from that there is the pandemic and everyone doing their own thing so no friend group where you can branch out and meet new people. You don't wanna be begging your friends to try to set you up, like you said it's better to meet naturally at some get together and then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:21 PM
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Being set up is different than just meeting them at a mutual hangout
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:14 PM
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Well porn has depictions of other people. But if women made men stop using sex toys in theory like if that were a common thing, of course the reaction would be a double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:27 AM
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No, that some of the most purposeful lives and important ones were men without partners. And the rest had partners who kind of kept out of the way and did not have what would be considered modern reasonable demands. The idea that men would need heavy sedation or castration is nonsense. The problem is that men aren't just having no partners, they have no purpose at all in the entire society which is rotted through its very foundation. You can argue that oh these people were some of the greatest e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:45 PM
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yeah dating apps are in just about every way worse than real life and every chance for a potential decision, they made bad ones in designing these things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 10:31 AM
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It's quite common for eccentrics to both have trouble with women or wanna be alone, and also to produce SOMETHING of value. Those who were married would not have kept a modern wife happy because they work too much
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:24 PM
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You might even see the enlightenment collapse in the west if it really gets this significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:06 AM
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I'm not against avoiding gassing up kids. Trust me, I have lived through over a decade of suffering from being gassed up and given both high expectations and none of the training needed for my weak points. It was not regarding the same issue but the same principle applies. Just as people are to have kids temper their expectations though, I'm telling you you cannot tell an entire generation to eat a shit sandwich just to try to protect the status quo for those who want to keep it. You can try and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:26 AM
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I mean you can look at the history of human progress and find your most valuable counterexamples
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:52 AM
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Telling male children they will never have what his own parents have is a way to mess up a kid. Maybe stop having movies where the guy comes of age and gets "the" girl. But no, you don't get to radically change social and economic conditions and then punish children preemptively to hope they do not advocate for their interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:48 AM
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It's worse than infertility. Women on hormonal bc can get low testosterone rarely but can replace that easily with a tiny bit of topical gel and be no worse for it. Men would have shrunken testes low semen volume and need prescription TRT injections twice a week for life or else suffer debilitating hormonal insufficiency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:02 AM
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To be fair they get housing support, and preferential access to other benefits too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:57 AM
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How is that true? Women have fda approved drugs to prevent conception, plan-b, get an abortion, get the child adopted, or abandon the child at a fire station all legal. Men are required to pay child support even if they did not even consent or their sperm was somehow stolen. Some women might never pursue child support but that's hardly a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:55 AM
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Complaining about a lack of male birth control is absolutely stupid if you understand anything about the male HPTA axis and current mechanisms for trying to affect it. Hormonal options are more damaging and in some regards affecting your overall health and even mind, less reversible than vasectomies. That's why no attempts were approved. As to your question, jt is cherry picked and circular reasoning by assuming what you are trying to make a case for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:48 AM
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If people don't do this between states, the same thing is forced between entire nations which is less realistic. You can't pretend that just one view is right about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 09:51 PM
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It feels 100 times better to fluster a friendly competitor or make an observer awkward if you had just demonstrated something impressive, than to hear someone saying something just to be nice or whatever. It's not that I have something huge for competition It's just examples where results are proven and felt, not stated. And if you have that real kind of success, compliments may come too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:28 AM
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Women have seemingly always had a somewhat smaller fraction with intellectual interests even when they pursue advanced degrees. Not nonexistent, just smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:22 AM
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It also consolidates their base with the level of media attacks, the exact tactic Trump used with his initial statements on immigration and the media reaction that prompted
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:19 AM
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It may be a tactic to keep left wing transplants from taking over the state
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:13 AM
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People should move places with laws they support. This is how US states are supposed to differ and operate as an actual federation. People may vote these people out. Personally, I'm unsure on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:12 AM
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That's why I don't impose some obligation, there's no moral impetus to require it of you. Hope you have a good one too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:43 AM
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Both may ignore problems at the greater peril to all of us if social conditions do not find a happy direction. Civic participation is down, social activities are down, trust is lower, fewer marriages, etc. Men will not find a normal woman's opinion about male issues asking FDS and women will not see the normal reaction about their issues from incels. Like in a shared space like this people are fighting over what should be considered more in a larger narrative. You have no obligation to do anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:13 AM
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I don't see the issue, women definitely should stand up for themselves about it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:59 AM
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Promotion doesn't correlate for men's porn preferences like it does for women's self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:57 AM
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Most men and most women are unattractive. I'm just saying most women can reach moderately above their own place in the bell curve if they want and meet enough people. If she thinks that's still not good enough that would be up to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:42 AM
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Many women can date a decent looking guy (comparable to them or better) if they make their side appealing and demonstrate trustworthy behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:25 AM
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Most men do not have an easy specialized high profit trading job
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:19 AM
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You can also be a hell of a physical specimen without being socially alpha and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:46 AM
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Maybe she was too tired to have sex and clean up and just wanted to sleep
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:37 PM
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Men kind of have to go off and make themselves into something and that process of hardening oneself, leaving some of your roots behind, and strengthening of resolve toward some direction makes it hard to keep as close to people from earlier. It's a part of getting older. I'm 29 and only just starting to realize this. That doesn't make me love my friends any less, but if you were to measure closeness by the frequency of confiding and that kind of stuff, of course women may average more. It's a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:38 AM
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I'm not sure if you see it but male competition might be a bit less personal because most dudes can make their way into hierarchies by paying their dues, showing respect, and attaining competence. Like aside from tribal sort of biases like racism or ideological differences, men are less likely to be chilled out of very large social groups like everybody at a school or larger workplace, than women. Many women who seemingly should be at the top have been ostracized and treated terribly maybe becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:33 AM
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Even if it doesn't affect relationships with men in theory at least if not also in reality, that still doesn't stop the fact that women are very competitive and cliquey with one another. They have more subtle and possibly more treacherous social hierarchies. We are social animals. There is much more to group hierarchies than mate selection alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:07 PM
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I don't think this is true. You find just as many if not more women having problems with same sex friendships and men. Both sexes can have same sex friendships and both can have problems in certain situations as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:04 PM
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Did you really not just read my second paragraph? Any plate a guy eats off of he should rinse and put in the dishwasher. I told you that I have no conflict at all with these basic things, every man should do those things even in tradition. People should not take tradition as an excuse to be a slob loser. I just wouldn't want to be doing intensive cleaning, I would agree to have it done and pay for it. We agree and I wanted to clear it up. When I said I didn't want to be doing major cleaning like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:41 PM
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These generalizations, I'm not sure if it applies generation to generation. The characteristics you're finding, seem to be the characteristics of losers. Maybe in this economy there are more losers developing. But it's not an across the board generational thing. Either that and/or it's guys who aren't remotely in love. All I can say is for men or for women, one ought not to mix sociology with one's own life. You have good standards, stick to them until you find something reaching it. But drawing…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:37 PM
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It's sad to have to say that being rejected as an actual human being is one of the better things guys might have a chance to go through. If guys are in some way below average, they might only ever experience rejection in which they don't even reach the level of human
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:30 PM
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I'd never even thought salsa dancing was a major thing and I found out about it literally because my cousin got into it and when she got married, at the wedding her husband had even worked on a fancy routine with her that involved like an advanced throw and they did it perfectly. It wasn't something he ever did before, he did it because she liked it. I thought more the other way around, you wouldn't expect boomers to do something like that because they'd think it was effeminate or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:24 PM
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Well it'll be much easier then, if the guy is frugal and willing to pay for professional cleaning, and willing to pay for her to be able to stay at home also. Let us clear something up right away. I don't even care about who does the laundry, let alone putting things in correct hampers. I understand the need never to leave trash out or to leave dishes out. Not tracking dirt in. All of those things you complained about you would have good right to complain about. Those men could make all the mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:17 PM
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The economy sucks but there are ways of making your job better. If the problem is the company you could apply for similar positions at other companies. If the problem is the job you could seek transferring to a different area of your same company.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:08 PM
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The solution is not some bullshit 2 income household. He needed to invest and bite down to manage a career change. It's not like he didn't know what he was doing having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:41 AM
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What the heck does a 50/50 girl mean? I'm not looking to make a woman work more. I save up and in a decade around time for me to consider kids I should have a good amount to support a family. If I do not, then I do not deserve to have kids in the first place - certainly wouldn't do it by making their mother work and leaving them to be mistreated by daycares etc. Either way though if someone has crazy clean standards they have to realize it's as much their problem throwing money down the drain as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:30 AM
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there are also women who don't want to give up having kids over this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:38 AM
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Those were the city people in Kabul, I doubt they were fleeing the Taliban because they were so staunchly traditionalist. They're probably the most liberal in the nation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 06:25 AM
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I agree but thought patterns are not stagnant for life. Some people grow out of it. I bet many people do eventually in fact
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:02 AM
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I think what it truly is, is a leap of faith. In an act of teamwork it is sort of like a trust fall exercise. So if a wife is submitting to a husband it is sort of like a gamble that by choosing a support role in a way of speaking, he will be more the stronger and motivated and thus by this little collaboration the unit from perspectives of both effectiveness and cohesion, will be stronger. Is that always best? No. Is it ever best? Seems it has worked for some. I personally think the spirit of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:50 AM
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The fact there are interests who would be better off ignoring and failing to treat low testosterone, others who would prefer to continue producing chemicals harmful to animals including humans, and others prevents this issue from gaining the type of momentum it rationally would from a human wellness priority standpoint. It is in game theory a prisoner's dilemma situation that our institutions do not have great incentives to solve
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:04 AM
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Yeah I guess it should be clear that they've done these gigs before under a company, good point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 10:58 PM
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Paying a single cleaning person just to do more normal floors counters sinks tubs toilets and a vacuum once or twice every month is more than worth it if the couple can pinch a penny elsewhere. It's also an opportunity to give a struggling family friend or something a bit of work. Of course if the couple is struggling to get hours then they have the time to do the work themselves and should divide it fairly based on the work hours or contribution. I just think there are ways to systematize and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 09:41 PM
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If both in the couple work, just fuckin pay someone to do the cleaning even Steven. Hardly any males will have the same eye to do things like shower scrubbing to the extent that a typical woman will be satisfied with the result while the result can be obtained competitively for a fair price, and UNLIKE with childcare, the result is better and has no downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 08:29 PM
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High testosterone is like over 1,000 ng/dL. The decline in testosterone levels recently has nothing to do with this 75,000 year evolutionary trend, it has obviously correlated with the release of plastics into the environment and modern chemicals such as pesticides, birth control, etc. Phthalates are proven to fuck with male sexual development and they were in plastics everywhere and are in all of our food. Poor people get it worse. This isn't like a healthy balance thing either, there are tons …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:56 PM
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Absolutely false. The mechanisms are known with phthalates at an epigenetic level, the birth defects are seen in animal models and in human measurements (higher levels in blood higher incidence of undescended testes and shorter anal perineal distance). The levels declining is widely measured, and the increase in environmental phthalates in the time period levels declined is proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:54 PM
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I don't think I'm qualified to judge how porn may have warped me but just looking at human evolution, of course I don't trust it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:25 PM
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Utter agency lol. Yeah stagnant or declining real wages while availabilities of middle class lifestyles shrink and yet expectations from marketing and new things coming out rise. Worse depression and social metrics among men and women. We have theoretical advances I don't want to put into doubt, but many practical problems making things decline in certain ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:17 PM
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Similarly maybe you don't get to pick and choose halves of two different "red pill" types. One type which is the PUA scumbag stuff involves guys not even wanting to have relationships, enjoying the decline or whatever. Another type involves it being too much a point of pride to make their wife work. They often move somewhere property and cost of living are cheaper and have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 07:42 PM
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This sounds like a straw man characterization
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:03 PM
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You can fake extroversion, you can't make yourself extroverted. I'm not saying it's hopeless there are other ways to get laid without misrepresenting what you can sustain socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 03:00 AM
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It's science 101 that other causes can be at play in a disparity that is correlated. These people would never make a direct link between race and crime or something taboo and would be right to point out problems jumping to conclusions, but as soon as some link can support a theory they have their mind set on, no further study needed, it has to be from the cause they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:47 AM
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I think YOU might be underestimating your friend's attractiveness. A distinctive pretty woman with a curvy body? That makes guys horny and when guys are horny that's when we make fools of ourselves going for it all immediately or whatever. You might be right that she maxes out the real attraction vs imagined social status ratio, but what you're describing sounds like she's very attractive at least to a good portion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 02:31 AM
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I'm not a data scientist or statistician, have no knowledge of how people accurately assess word frequencies over time but a rhetorical frequency would be even more difficult to detect. But I can read statistical indicators in past collapses and look at data leading up to now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:15 PM
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You could probably look at the mentions over time and find an association where it increases when conditions are worse. That it seems to be nonzero doesn't automatically invalidate an observation when someone has data to support their case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:03 PM
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Lol this is like a Roman in 370 AD saying this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 07:38 PM
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The spectre? Crazy stuff actually happened sadly and it was the women initiating as casual
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:17 PM
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Some women get hotter after having children and some don't or get worse so it's not a universal outcome, and you should marry a woman over more than her body anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:09 PM
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Just to play devil's advocate, what if this is because happy women are less likely to seek relationships? And when women earn things associated with happiness like a comfortable income, it's not like that makes men want them more; it only raises expectations that he earn more. However a man being happy is kind of associated with building the career needed to be a viable husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:51 AM
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I believe it is only much easier for wicked women, which then encourages women to be worse than they would have been with more proper incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 10:30 PM
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When a woman wants you the price of admission can be nothing at all and she may come onto you explicitly asking for a casual encounter. The price of exit may be tantrums, slander, even false accusations in the worst case scenario. When it is too easy, unfortunately that might be when you should be scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 10:13 PM
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Men don't want to fuck anything that looks friendly, you're making a sweeping generalization from the least discriminating 5-10% of men as if this is universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:13 PM
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Oh I'm totally aware the US is screwing normal people over with inflationary policies that only the rich can seem to really benefit from. But if we had increased normal taxes to go with high spending it would possibly affect behavior at the margins even worse than the inflation. The problem in our democracy is that it's virtually guaranteed the worst leaders will be there to stay, and the people are sold out for less than pennies on the dollar to special interests, so we blow big money on useles…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:39 AM
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The US has lower debt to gdp than many countries but it's a good point how US bipartisanship is often worst of both world. Empire abroad + performative wokeism ritualized at home is another example
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:00 PM
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I don't think women are necessarily more attractive from exercise, it is just good for health. In fact if women store fat well sometimes fitness can be of detriment to looks but it's ok whatever they prioritize, I would never pressure a woman to be less fit. So I would generally only be into women I'd be fine with gaining weight, which makes it easier for me to be happy I guess? I did guess wrong because of the type of women I know in the lifting space but I can see how an "independent grinder" …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:50 PM
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Nobody is prohibiting you from doing this. Maybe you don't like that other women can do their own thing and be happy with a guy with both of them pursuing meaningful life goals alongside each other with a warmth in looks and little moments together that transcends gaudy displays. And maybe you think women who do this are dragging the field down. If you're so much better being single then what's the point letting anyone know about it? Just live your perfect life. When narcissistic men or women ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:03 PM
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For the record she had shared a meme a month prior which said "I'm just going to stop talking to him for no reason at all". After that talk she reshared it saying "great idea :)" as if me still hitting her up but not initiating so much when she was at work, and waiting faithfully for any time we could spend together no matter when it was, was me doing anything wrong. I always initiated and I always responded to everything. Clearly she thought I didn't care enough as if I should have bombarded a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:52 PM
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Someone is trying to take pop culture social sciences to make a bad faith argument. We aren't blind to this nor are we blind to married couples in our lives with profound love who do not express it in a honeymoon phase type of paradigm. Supposedly all these women should be unhappy? If a guy is really not caring and doing bad then she can leave. But that doesn't mean he started it, can go both ways if he just tuned out from being treated like crap. The OP is trying to get a guilty confessional an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:39 PM
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I think working people can have all of these problems but men are more closely attuned to sexual side effects because it is embarrassing if you can't feel anything and as a result go soft. A man will have drastic effects and know it is the drug. A woman might just not get off and resent the guy for not doing more. A woman can't not have hormonal birth control if she hasn't even considered it an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:16 PM
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Women who exercise don't post narcissistic diatribes on reddit about marriage being hopeless because men do everything wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:21 AM
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Yeah I had a starting long distance relationship and the girl actually withdrew from me for a while making me feel like I was the only one waiting to spend time together and I stuck in absolutely loyal and not giving her ANY grief or pressure just hoping I'd get more time with her. She proceeded to "we need to talk" with ME and guilted me for not doing enough when I initiated like every contact. So I just explained how things had gone then in a resigned way like I did all there was to do. Maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:18 AM
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Is it uncommon to think that many women tend to actually act too much like porn? Like in my experience they get too loud too easily and it puts me off. I'd rather get a halfass handjob with absolutely no expression or something as silly as it sounds, than the over the top stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:10 AM
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Use birth control and ssris, don't exercise, act surprised their body doesn't give them the best experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:01 AM
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If you think it's a bad deal just don't get married. Men are not always ready for sex or willing to with just anyone btw and the burden of this entitlement and faulty expectation weighs heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:50 AM
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That's a social issue if you make yourself inappropriate for a place in public you choose to go to, you could go as cheaply as a guy and still make it work but no most "date" places it's not appropriate to wear sweats and slippers. If you're somehow not a troll, it's sad how badly you could be suckered to pay those prices for absolutely no return.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:32 PM
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We're not gonna have population drop THAT much soon enough for you to see that benefit from population effect alone. If you want it, move to a small town or something. It's much more likely that social paradigms around how we organize around technology will revolutionize in order to bring back more community.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:36 AM
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The "bluepill" world creating this social lie is dying off in spite all effort by manipulative tech platforms and legacy media, and China has their own aging population that will come to bite them they're ramping up over the next 15 years and the west may not afford to be so stupid for much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:34 AM
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How does that mean it's not genetic? It isn't necessarily just an on or off. The genes the kids inherited, even if the father is ugly, just happened to work out. I also said mostly, not all, so taking care of yourself is required to keep and develop what you're born with, but also very little of that has anything to do with overpriced cosmetics. And I said nothing at all about partners or the internal validity of a person. As far as upkeep though it's got a heck of a lot more to do with health t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:47 AM
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If they're not born into it, marrying into it is the #1 option
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:59 AM
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Beauty is mostly genetic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:58 AM
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I don't think about it as compromising when I'm flexible about a lot of things in the first place. I think I care about feeling safe and understood
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:22 AM
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This might be why it's easier to just talk over coffee going dutch there without it being a slight, and THEN if it goes well say you'd like to buy her dinner at so and so place or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:29 AM
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Your reasoning is a bit flawed because you're just thinking about transactional stuff and none of the social appearances or implications, ACCEPTING this payment would be inappropriate for a platonic friend to do in some circumstances. If you notice, traditional men like Mike Pence will not even eat alone with a woman who isn't his wife, and most guys really serious with a gf would not really have a reason to either. It isn't about buying sex, it is about the trust and commitment that you can do …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:25 AM
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I can agree with that, that it's more likely. When a woman hasn't established herself as an adult and families are no longer acting as they once did, she's in a weak position to find for herself the life she wants to live if she's already with an established partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:09 AM
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It seemed like it was all of my fb ads
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 11:05 PM
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The state of affairs being reason, like not wanting a child to have to face conflict and the progression of history
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 10:58 PM
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"It does not matter how well educated you are, how intelligent you are, what youve accomplished, what your values or hobbies are." Tell you one thing if I met a woman like Yuja Wang or Hillary Hahn my interest would be nothing at all about sex, it would be about their brilliant musical ability. I bet it is the same for guys with any passion, if you find a woman who is world class in that passion, or even just very good and interested, he will probably find her completely worthwhile as a friend e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:40 PM
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It could be predatory. My only position that age alone doesn't mean it has to be predatory, and I say this as a guy where it's not my thing and I think it can be weird. I'm 29 and can't see myself dating a woman younger than 23, and realistically 25 seems like a better number for me. I'm not angry about your opinion of predatory in discourse, it's free speech, I just make my own comments and try to clarify just as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:22 PM
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Never become a lie brother stay strong and true to it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:39 AM
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For background I'm a 29 year old man in this process of self-actualizing myself so I am sharing everything I learned. I am not at all interested in game, but I understand the redpill sort of facts and so on and hold no idealistic delusions about say dating apps or the current destruction of social trust. I have the mbti type INTP and do not like approaching anyone or small talk, and anxiety and sensitivity to rejection were issues that kept me from being in a place to give the proper try in purs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:35 AM
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Conquer life brother. Make yourself a part of something eternal. If you think about who you could become but fear the precarious maintenance or the unknown, know that the worst thing to happen to you is if you never truly lived, because death is certain anyway. If you address this with your life successfully, you will 1. Feel great and show it, act with purpose toward your goals which you believe in yourself about, and if that is really true, then 2. Rejection from someone else won't be such a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:12 AM
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So you're just gonna give up and die? That is as cowardly and selfish as the bluepill if that's your real reason behind it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:54 AM
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This is why I disagree with them, milfs are hot. Some women get worse, some get better. It's as much of a crapshoot as being born, so maybe have a better reason to get married
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:53 AM
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Charging somebody exorbitant interest because they had an emergency and had to pay more interest is predatory. It should be the goal of reforms to navigate these problems. Having perceived perks and entering a romantic relationship is not on the same level unless the woman were homeless or something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:50 AM
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Virtue doesn't turn women off, incompetence and timidness do. Men with the absolute capability of confrontation etc but who fight for good in their lives do well for how they look. Of course appearance has limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:47 AM
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I bought meundies boxers then got underwear ads for weeks it was horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:43 AM
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I don't believe in pump and dumping outside of cryptocurrency but I think I will develop my moral character as a necessity and pursue my goals, and by the time I have amounted to something I will find a woman I appreciate for her moral character and more. Some of the best women are just normal people who fly under the radar like anyone else. You are right though if men have killed a part of themselves to be one with an almost sociopathic society, the further they get or the worse the area, in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:21 AM
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This is an incorrect conflation, although some overlap can exist. A lot of betas (computer programmers etc making good money who follow the social-political paradigm to fall in line and work as a team in this big companies) are for obvious reasons successful and get married and that's the end of it. They are not socially dominant leaders but they follow the money and they're playing for the winning team so to speak. Similarly guys can be alpha and will always attract some women but their leaders…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:37 AM
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Some guys can be very weak of course and some women are bigger and stronger than others but in general much smaller men if they are healthy will typically still be significantly stronger than women even if those women train in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:31 AM
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"So why is it okay for a 25 year old man with no kids to date some 32 year old single mom" Where does this come from? Even if the man finds the woman quite attractive, I think the vast majority will usually feel he is not in the right place for her and can't lead her on about anything more than a fling, which is why this is uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:28 AM
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It is too much emotional labor sometimes even to accept any kind of intimacy with a woman you wouldn't date, let alone shifting your efforts to try to get chances. Even if they practically throw it in your lap casually they always get feelings and I'm not talking 6 months of acting like a bf leading on or anything, I mean nearly immediately. I just want to feel safe and be able to sleep at night so I'd rather just find new women platonic friends until a shot at dating happens. Maybe when women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:15 AM
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There is a reason between the discrepancy, that the majority of women have to work, and yet the majority of women do not necessarily come across as "career women". Having to work, and even doing well at it, is probably not enough for it to be considered as a label
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:56 AM
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There are many things one could find associated with age like maturity and so on but this alleged link seemed to come out of left field, it just sounds like maybe you had experiences happen anecdotally that would align with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:41 AM
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Yeah it only takes seeing people commenting in arguments on the internet etc to realize many people, sometimes even successful people, can be mental midgets. And if you end up in a relationship with a person like that and disagree, they will never be rational about it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:28 AM
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This is a wacky scenario to bring up in this context. Women will date older more established (in career and money) guys because they're less likely to force sex without realizing that the woman is not in the mood? There's more variation in that trait within every age group than there is across ages, and whatever that future unknown is to prospective dates, it has little to do with what makes a guy capable of even being considered an option compared to the main things older guys have... their fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:25 AM
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Are they supposed to be trying to get close when you're in a relationship? That's inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:16 AM
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This is the paradox is it not? By the time you've gone through hell and back forging yourself into something that thrives in the meat grinder world, nothing is the same and you don't even want the young naive woman who would have probably overlooked the younger you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:10 AM
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I don't fit those things of the OP but I scroll and respond with my thoughts while taking a dump or whatever. Every now and then find interesting facts and arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:53 AM
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Alcohol itself is absurdly cheap for the damage it can do you but ubering and bar drinks are expensive yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:49 AM
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I don't think men necessarily like being pampered. Just want reciprocality and investment in a relationship that's not going to end up putting their children through a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:12 AM
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So in a sense your alternative only involves men basically having already made these mistakes and gotten out and learned from their experience before marrying?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:09 AM
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No, the takeaway isn't to have sex, though if a woman only wants sex it's obvious she can do that. It's to give off enough trustworthiness and at some point genuine affection so that a guy can take it slow with her, the way he also wants to for a serious partner, without being completely humiliated and destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:07 AM
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Men don't need physical intimacy to open up, they just need trust they aren't being played the fool. It is easier for a guy to take things slow if the woman inspires trust and is genuinely into him. That wouldn't work for instance if the guy knew that the woman had just slept with a rando or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:25 PM
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This is a salient point that I made when someone complained that it takes 2 to have casual sex. Men do not necessarily endorse this system but they have to have experience or the longer time that passes it's like having a resume gap. Men who literally only want to date someone who they could potentially marry and have kids with, are forced to take on poor options they know have a 0% chance because they cannot afford to go without experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:14 AM
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In a low trust society, anonymous people are treated as if they're the villain whom it merely cannot yet be proved their criminality. Feeling as if you're a criminal in this manner makes you avoid public life, you do not smile at a baby in the grocery store, you do not tell passersby "good morning", you do not make conversation on public transit, you smile and nod your head only to other men because you fear doing so to a woman will return a look of disgust which reinforces the narratives of ori…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:07 AM
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I should have broken that up more, it just comes in a flow. When people don't see an issue it's usually that they aren't looking very closely at social metrics, or they might attribute it to less social factors like technology or economic conditions. I think there is a case to walk back some of the blank slate naivety about human nature and relationships without returning to the barbarism of many traditional societies past and present.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:00 AM
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Most people act polite but do not like being accosted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:56 AM
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If you would do anything hopefully that includes eating 200 grams of protein a day and lifting with high effort 3-4 times a week
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:54 AM
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It's good to focus on quality volume without invoking mentally pressuring comparisons, like for me it would look like "hey, what can I do for 6 sets of 6 with 2 minute rest times with dumbbell ohp" when before I had barbell standing pressed 225 for 10 reps at a bodyweight pushing 270 at only 5'10". I'll be going back down to 230 bodyweight and I'll be lucky to beat 225 for 3 reps but I have more potential to focus on wellness and RELATIVE if not absolute arm size while reducing my waist etc. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:52 AM
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All divorces prove is that it didn't work out after experiencing life together, you can't guarantee how many people reasonably knew things would not work beforehand
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:43 AM
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Industrialists have certainly conditioned Americans to act Machiavellian and the loss of religion and social fabric might have done the last bit of damage to make men who are ordinary at best feel like untouchables, like that there is a basic humanity level that they aren't treated with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:54 AM
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Quiet desperation yes, but accepting a bad relationship over nothing? I don't think many men would choose that if they KNEW it would be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:39 AM
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If men could choose to be born as somebody else, this would be very helpful, but weight training is just like a way to hack the reward system, like providing some external framework for life hygiene and a sense of progress that can be counted upon and which also increases longevity. If a guy has taken up lifting seriously because he actually enjoys it, I think most lifters are well aware that women overall would prefer them at an athletic bodyfat percentage. Guys who are into bodybuilding might …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:37 AM
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So for them it is a waste and maybe mentally damaging even for them to spin their wheels doing more than is for health and wellness, but if they didn't train at all that would be worse for them unless they took up another physical activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:30 AM
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Look at lower class issues like wage stagnation, measures for depression, measures for civic participation and social inroads (fewer people having close friends compared to surveys in previous decades etc). We are social beings so this stuff matters when many social metrics are hitting all time lows within the period of recording.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:23 AM
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While I don't agree with blaming this on women when the big problems kind of come from industrialists and philosophers/thinkers in general and it's imprecise to just draw a target around women when it is not an elegant descriptor of the actual cause nor of where the damage is taking place, the issue this poster's resentment points toward could be that women overall just slightly bias toward intellectually/politically welcoming most aspects of what came to create a low trust dating environment an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:18 AM
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I think you're slightly overstating it but the culpability lies with industrialists and with enlightenment philosophy or something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:54 AM
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I'm there with you experiencing insomnia and anxiety interfering with my training goals. I spent the past year lifting as much weight as possible and to say the least it is not fulfilling, I am going to try to change my mental framing so that I still train with good regularity but don't let it take away from mental energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:50 AM
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The observation people make is that the in-kind value of normal mothering which happens during normal work hours often far exceeds the wage earned. The problem with equal distribution tends to be that people often cannot have a career with low hours, so you have a household working 80 hours a week and then blowing a lot of that money on stuff they don't need, and making the child bear sacrifices on top of that even if both parents are equally distributing things. When people are making significa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:42 AM
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Imo as a guy who lifts a fair amount there is no reason for a woman to cut all the way to having abs if she's going to resume bulking later anyway, and it is not a very specific desire like for a photo shoot, competition, or benchmark personal goal. Like if you're aiming for a moderate endpoint then I think hovering around maintenance might be better, and certainly not cutting deep beyond the level where performance drops sharply in women. Emotionally I just focused on the things I was looking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:33 AM
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As an introverted man I would immediately take issue with this because I pretty much only go to work, the grocery store, and the gym. The idea of chit chatting a true introvert while they are doing something, and it going well, just seems suspicious off the rip. Maybe slight introverts or women who for other reasons wouldn't do dating apps, or who would have rejected you on the app but since you did well IRL she likes you or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:20 AM
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I don't think you should expect a man or woman to ever want to get with someone who had specifically rejected them before. Dating someone is supposed to be special
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:10 AM
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It's not an excuse to pump and dump anyone if that term entails any misleading, but while maintaining honesty and all of that, men are encouraged to have given it a shot with women they know 100% that they would never be interested in marrying, because if they do not, they won't have adequate social proofing and experience to ever have a reasonable shot if too much time goes by. There are reasons this state of affairs seems pretty disadvantageous for both men and women looking to lead fulfilling…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:01 AM
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Some of this is social propaganda, and despite this there are many women who obviously disagree. They are married, and it's not just that they married some unrealistic superstar. They love the guy and he loves her. Yes the government incentives promote single motherhood and the incentives are for everyone to lead atomistic lives where they may be preyed upon every step for profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:50 PM
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It would probably be pretty dire either way. Women bring out the best (and maybe sometimes the worst) in men, but ultimately it all sums together to motivate an impulse of productivity and accomplishment even if it's indirect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:47 PM
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People can find a way if they had to. The only question is whether someone "differently abled" having a station to make a field more diverse is worth dedicating more resources toward a particular task. There is no doubt that you can take the best athletic 0.001% women and they can kick ass but this is used as a motte and bailey argument to further an actuality in which standards are lowered and unnecessary extra positions are required to get the same work done. There are some times when sacrific…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 10:40 PM
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I don't know where you are getting your numbers but the physical strength differences are typically more than people suspect as people who don't train and thus have almost no objective feedback in defined movements and weights, don't know where they are at. Women who are good enough to reach par for males in actual physical labor fields would rather be elite athletes because it takes elite genetics and dedicated training to get there. In the vast majority of cases like the military, it is instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:32 PM
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Women don't have a good record voting against wars either as constituents or as representatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:27 PM
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I faced scapegoating and ridiculous damnation from a female teacher in kindergarten and 1st grade, and generally the others wasted time, burned out my attentive years, and held me back from learning at my level. Not meaning to say it's always that way but I have no thanks for the profession whatsoever when private tutoring would have gotten me further.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:24 PM
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