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It’s also odd that people are blaming the mother for “choosing bad guys” and becoming a single parent, since the AITA OP is also a single parent. Wouldn’t that make him equally at fault under their logic anyway?
/r/MensRights11/08/25 03:18 PM
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Don’t bother bringing up logic in this emotional extremist subreddit. And actually you are wrong about one thing. There is a health initiative that we could implement to increase male life expectancy: take away their driving privileges. Reckless driving kills so many more men than women, even though seatbelts are specifically designed for them instead of injuring them like they do to women. If feminists wanted true equality, they would lobby for men’s drivers licenses to be taken away.
/r/MensRights06/08/25 12:52 AM
1

The same way the feminist subs call anyone who doesn’t agree with 100% of the most extremist opinions a misogynist, this sub calls those same people misandrists. Some of us just get sick of only engaging with one extremist sub. It’s hard to find any that are truly neutral. I’ve been called both by people from either side. lol.
/r/MensRights26/07/25 01:54 AM
11

I’m glad I had all my teeth ripped out with pliers. Now I don’t have to use a tooth brush anymore.
/r/MensRights17/07/25 12:04 AM
1

You’re agreeing with what I just said in your last paragraph. Men aren’t sexual assault targets at bars. They aren’t worried about the same kinds of harassment that women are. Like yeah, men can get mugged. So can women. That’s beside the point. This whole conversation is about women explaining the ways they protect themselves from being sexually assaulted by people bigger and stronger than them who are sexually attracted to them and pose a threat in the real world outside of this delusional Red…
/r/MensRights14/07/25 05:20 AM
0

None? lol. Go outside.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 06:53 PM
-7

These same men are not worried about being raped in a parking lot or being roofied. They aren’t asking other men to walk to the car with them or watch their back at bars. Thats specifically about women being assaulted.
/r/MensRights13/07/25 03:42 PM
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The internet blows everything up. It’s really unhealthy that even kids are being constantly bombarded with extremist bullshit from all sides. I’m not gonna tell you that there are no women who are irrationally bigoted against men for being some kind of rapist hive mind, because some women are misandrists who believe that all men are animals who would rape if given the opportunity. But the majority of rhetoric you’re hearing is just average women trying to describe how they stay safe from psycho …
/r/MensRights13/07/25 03:05 PM
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I mean, what is your actual opinion of women doing things like I described then? Do you find that sexist? If not, then what kind of discriminatory actions have you seen from women? I obviously have no personal experience around being treated like a potential rapist. Is there a subset of women who do things like flinch away from you in line at the movie theaters? Or is this whole thread only referring to crazies on the internet?
/r/MensRights13/07/25 02:39 PM
-3

“I blocked you because I’m not here to talk about the feminist agenda. Again… there’s a sub for this boot licking nonsense. ✌️” I guess bringing up the fact that women aren’t a hive mind with zero accountability while men are all self awareness masters means you’re a feminist bootlicker. If you said that all men lack accountability while women are all self reflective, then that would suddenly be “generalizing” and “misandrist.” lol These kinds of people are why I get frustrated with every Reddit…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 02:32 PM
-6

When women say this they aren’t talking about giving men weird looks and avoiding them at all costs. Thats a weird exaggerated caricature. They’re talking about bringing a friend when they go to bars and watching their drinks carefully so they aren’t roofied… …Meeting up with tinder dates in a public space and googling their information to get to know them better before going to their house… …Not walking in dark alleyways at night… I’m a woman and have had so many men insist on walking with me t…
/r/MensRights13/07/25 02:19 PM
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I know you don’t want to get into a fifty comment argument, but you’ve really peaked my interest with the fact that you’re bi. Where do you live that men are putting in just as much effort as women? I can’t think of a single place where most men do things like grow their hair out, wear makeup, get manicures, shave their body hair, etc… Especially since you’re bi and should have a less biased view of beauty standards than the average hetero. I’ve questioned my own sexuality in the past because of…
/r/MensRights06/07/25 08:24 PM
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I’ve seen the type of conversation you’re talking about on Reddit and I don’t remember hearing the sentiment that it’s a “recent” issue. Maybe if you want to compare today’s men with 18th century lords in powdered wigs. Lmao I’ve heard a lot of women complain that men have been treating hygiene and appearance like a gay sin for longer than we’ve been alive. It’s a lack of effort combined with a phobia of appearing gay. Not some kind of biological degradation of man.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 04:56 PM
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Doesn’t change the fact that most women put tons of effort into their appearance and most men don’t. I’m just giving the perspective of a woman attracted to men. Most guys have horrible fashion sense and will straight up brag about how they don’t care about dumb shit like “looking pretty.” They’ll say that it’s gay to try and look attractive. Like lol. Do women not have eyes?
/r/MensRights06/07/25 04:42 PM
1

It’s generally because most men put zero effort into wearing nice clothes or getting a flattering haircut.
/r/MensRights06/07/25 04:29 PM
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That study doesn’t prove that men aren’t getting white collar jobs. The existence of quotas trying to get women into those positions proves the opposite. This whole post sounds like a massive conspiracy theory based off the fact that some male dominated companies have quotas to facilitate diversity. Goals like, “Let’s try to hire as close to 50/50 men and women as possible.” What quotas are aiming for 100% women? Whether those quotas are actually smart or fair is a whole other topic that has not…
/r/MensRights04/07/25 08:53 PM
1

Because you’re asking for the source of these wild claims instead of jumping to extreme dystopian conclusions
/r/MensRights04/07/25 06:55 PM
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I’m sure you’re doing a great job. My dad has sole custody of my minor siblings. It’s a lot of work being a single parent.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 12:33 AM
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For what it’s worth, I prefer long hair on men. I’m sure you didn’t look that weird. Glad you figured out a way to deal with the haters.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 12:29 AM
0

Proof that you have sex? Idk. Can’t help you there.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 10:18 PM
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The whole article comes off like those YouTubers who film strangers in public as they harass them to get a reaction. It’s all staged and unnatural.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 06:00 PM
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They went to war for their overlords who paid them money and quite possibly forced them into it.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 05:49 PM
2

I know. What is this TikTok skibidi rage bait bullshit? Is there actually a region where women expect that kind of treatment or is the whole thing staged for views?
/r/MensRights21/06/25 05:47 PM
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The women you have sex with care. Jesus fucking Christ. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Do you know how common it is for women to complain about how many men lack consent and think that getting violent without asking first is ok? “Nobody cares.” Tell that to the cops when your girlfriend blacks out and suffers permanent brain damage after you accidentally strangled her because you refused to educate yourself on safe sex practices.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 03:31 PM
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I didn’t say no women like it. I said not all of them do and many pretend just to be nice. And more importantly, the way OP phrased it is completely leaving out the concept of CONSENT. don’t assume that ANY woman wants you to do those things without asking first. Do men literally want to engage in everything they see in a porno or R rated movie, without warning or any way to physically make it stop? It’s extremely concerning that people in this sub are downvoting a comment bringing up consent in…
/r/MensRights21/06/25 01:54 PM
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How do you know some of them aren’t just playing along to make you happy? It’s extremely common for women to fake enjoying things so her man doesn’t get bored and cheat, or even just because she wants to be a good partner and make him feel loved. That aside, what you’re saying is extremely harmful. BDSM is something you have to talk about beforehand. Consensual non consent is fine and most feminists don’t have an issue with it. Actual non consent is different. Not many women want a man to start …
/r/MensRights20/06/25 03:09 PM
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You know he’s gay because you overheard him joking with all the other gay linebacker-physiqued men in the room about how fuckable the 16yo boy who just walked by looks. Now he’s staring at you. Sometimes it’s hard to draw the line between just coexisting in a space and purposefully “following.” When will you make that call, and what will you do about it? What if he tries to leave the building at the same time as you so you end up alone in the parking lot together at night? Or is he just being fr…
/r/MensRights19/06/25 10:23 PM
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What intensity of staring from a large gay man strong enough to strangle you with his bare hands would it take to make you uncomfortable and perhaps even fear for your physical safety?
/r/MensRights19/06/25 08:31 PM
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Who would downvote this? Rapey much? There’s a huge difference between men “noticing” women and flirting in a respectful way, and outright harassing them.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 08:10 PM
1

Shooting a grizzly bear will only make it attack you.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 07:02 PM
1

Addressing what point? That divorcing the mother of your children (over what sounds like maybe 20lbs or so by the OP’s other comment stating that his wife is still in a “healthy” weight range) is a petty reason to divorce?
/r/MensRights19/06/25 03:17 AM
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You don’t want to acknowledge the fact that women aren’t the only ones who divorce for petty reasons. It’s just ironic that so many men on this sub like to blame the female hive mind for being allergic to accountability, while also being hypocrites and doing the exact same things themselves and can’t admit to doing it.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 02:20 AM
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Almost every man I see around me is fat if not obese
/r/MensRights18/06/25 11:24 PM
2

Another man taking zero accountability
/r/MensRights18/06/25 11:06 PM
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Another example of “women” taking zero accountability
/r/MensRights18/06/25 10:54 PM
0

Are you on the side of school shooters?
/r/MensRights15/06/25 07:40 AM
1

What is this rage bait nonsense? I’m not “on the side” of a select handful of extremists who the vast majority of feminists either disagree with or haven’t even heard of at all.
/r/MensRights15/06/25 07:39 AM
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You call me a troll but I’m the one giving logical arguments and you’re the one who has to resort to baseless insults when I prove you wrong.
/r/MensRights15/06/25 01:17 AM
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Their religious text literally says that
/r/MensRights15/06/25 01:14 AM
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You must live in a very non religious region of the US. And haven’t you ever heard men say that women with hairy pits are disgusting?
/r/MensRights15/06/25 01:05 AM
1

Dude more than half the US population are Christian. Stop gaslighting. Not even remotely comparable to 87 and 16 extremist twitter profiles that no one takes seriously. Most men registered for the draft never serve a single day in their lives. I disagree with the draft’s existence in the first place, but my point is that women also sacrifice their lives for their country. Women in western societies also receive shame for being raped, not just Muslim ones. “Men are slut shamed too.” So you agree …
/r/MensRights15/06/25 12:58 AM
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Comments like yours really make me think that 99% of this sub is just being willfully ignorant and hating on women.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 11:09 PM
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You sound like you’re suffering from brain rot and need to go outside and touch grass. Killallmen is not an actual ideology being pushed on men. Is Trump trying to pass a law that will have all men executed at birth? That’s rage bait.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 11:07 PM
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Women receive hate for not being submissive to their husbands and letting them make all major life decisions They receive hate for wearing too much makeup They receive hate for not shaving their armpits and legs
/r/MensRights14/06/25 11:02 PM
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Killallmen is extremist and very rare. I’ve never met anyone in person who said anything like that, and the only people on the internet saying it are a very minuscule minority of mentally deranged people who are all talk and no action. Like the men who think that women should literally be sold as sex slaves. Actually I think the latter is more common if anything. The Bible says that a woman has to obey her husband the way a man obeys Christ. That’s a very common sentiment that tangibly affects p…
/r/MensRights14/06/25 10:59 PM
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There is plenty of woman bashing that goes on today. It’s everywhere. And anyone calling a woman who won’t demonize men a pick me is using the term incorrectly. It means the same thing as white night. You’re trying to make it sound like legitimate pick mes don’t exist because women don’t get any real hate. That’s ridiculous.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 02:27 PM
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It’s essentially the equivalent to a white knight.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 05:33 AM
1

How does that relate to what I said?
/r/MensRights14/06/25 03:16 AM
0

Joining the military also isn’t that dangerous. Most vets don’t die either. They just put in their few years to get their college scholarship.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 03:15 AM
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What makes you think I’m single or hate men?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:46 PM
0

Your comment isn’t very… “clear” itself
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:11 PM
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Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about dangerous jobs “not factoring into my world.” I never said that men don’t make sacrifices for their children. I’m just pointing out that it’s disingenuous to claim that pregnancy is equally as dangerous for men as it is for women. You’re acting like men should be allowed to force women to get abortions or not since a woman’s medical choices have an equal impact on men and are somehow inherently “life threatening” to them. Outside of rar…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 04:35 PM
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That’s not whataboutism. I was just pointing out that male abortion rights aren’t equivalent to female ones since men’s lives aren’t being put in danger from it.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 03:49 PM
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Men and women both do this to themselves and it’s disturbing
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:37 AM
0

Every traditional culture I’m familiar with will socially outcast women who don’t have kids. A lack of sex ed and birth control options also makes it very difficult to avoid getting pregnant once you’re in a relationship, and women are heavily “encouraged” to be in one. Childless career women and gays are generally not welcome in conservative circles.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:14 AM
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Just because there isn’t a law stating they had to have kids doesn’t mean they had much choice in it.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:10 AM
-1

Go read a history book. Or talk to some religious fundies.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:08 AM
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The reason I’m comparing childbirth to war is because both kill large numbers of people and even more often maim and torture them.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:05 AM
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There are many women who voluntarily join the military, but would never willingly go through pregnancy. So which one is worse is highly subjective. It was feminism that gave women the right to enlist in the first place. Conservatives are much more likely to be against female military service.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:03 AM
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Most women have historically had very little choice in whether to get pregnant or not, similar to how many men were drafted in the past. No man in the US has been forced to serve in the military in the last 50 years. Many women have died in childbirth during that timeframe.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 07:00 AM
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You’re making a false equivalence. Women wanting the same human rights as men isn’t the same as them wanting to cut men out of their lives completely or thinking that everything men do is useless and evil. Women who have extreme opinions like blaming not just corrupt patriarchal structures (which are much more nuanced than men vs women) but men as a whole for everything wrong with the world and believing that women can’t be just as abusive as individuals, are socially inept brainwashed bigots an…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:55 AM
1

No one is hiding that factoid. Most women just view it as an Uncle Tom argument.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:36 AM
0

Then maybe don’t say that all women are lazy selfish hoes and men are solely responsible for the advancement of society. The person you’re replying to never said that most men are evil in the first place. The people in this thread blaming women for everything wrong with society are the ones generalizing like that.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:34 AM
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You’re spewing statistics without adding the relevant context that nullifies the bias you’re implying. Those statistics would have looked much harsher towards men before feminism changed them. Gender norms and biology both play roles in those percentages. Feminism strives to give people the choice to have alternative relationships that aren’t just men paying for everything and women doing all the childcare. If the statistics bother you then you should be encouraging women to take high paying car…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:30 AM
1

If you find arguing with someone who holds a differing opinion a waste of time then you’re welcome to disengage
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:17 AM
-2

Why does men’s life threatening sacrifice of fighting in the military give them the right to vote, but women’s life threatening sacrifice of giving birth doesn’t?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:15 AM
0

You’re not arguing for working as a collective. You’re saying that 50% of the population sits around doing nothing. Objectively false and extremely pretentious.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:14 AM
0

You think women sit around eating hot chip and lie?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:12 AM
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Feminism doesn’t say that women can’t stay at home. It says that they should be able to do whatever their unique personality is best suited to.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:10 AM
0

Who gives birth to men and allows them to be able to focus on their careers by doing the lions share of childcare? And do you honestly believe that there are no women who work in these fields?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:09 AM
1

Where did I say that feminism doesn’t pertain to normal life? I’m literally saying the opposite. The examples you gave sound like social media rage bait. The second half of your paragraph wasn’t explained well enough for me to see any connection to what I said.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:05 AM
0

You know there’s an area between those two extremes right? Not all women who take issue with rigid gender roles want to cut men out of their lives.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 06:02 AM
1

“The demon” outside of extremist social media echo chambers and corrupt Hollywood is just real world problems that women deal with on a day to day basis. This entire thread is ironically demonizing women.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 05:59 AM
1

Yeah men die in childbirth all the time
/r/MensRights12/06/25 05:57 AM
0

You’re bringing up random TikTok sounding bullshit. Those aren’t the things she was talking about, and most of them aren’t even related to feminism or the lack thereof.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 05:57 AM
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Wow I feel so sad that I get to control my own money instead of having to marry some old creep and pump out his genetically defective old sperm children at 16. Miserable. If only the grandpas would desire me like they used to 😣 My modern relationship is so miserable. If only my boyfriend had been forced to legally marry me before having sex or living together. He would feel so much more appreciated with the stress of having to provide for both of us on his income alone while also having an unlim…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 05:52 AM
-12

It’s literally not
/r/MensRights12/06/25 05:16 AM
-16

Interesting to hear that you feel like they do that…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 05:15 AM
1

This is cherry picking qualities. What happened to women preferring men who dress in a masculine style, prioritize their careers, have rizz and a sense of humor? Does a man’s income not matter all of a sudden? Why does porn and nearly all forms of sexualized images of women focus so much on genetically attractive ones and not women with ugly features?
/r/MensRights12/06/25 12:31 AM
1

Yeah this analysis is cherry picking data to lie by omission and therefore objectively false.
/r/MensRights11/06/25 11:18 PM
9

Routine infant genital mutilation is disgusting
/r/MensRights11/06/25 01:46 AM
0

Wow. Who ever thought that someone calling it commiefornia would be making an ironic nonsensical insult
/r/MensRights10/06/25 02:45 PM
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I already live in commiefornia. Is that what passes as an argument where you live?
/r/MensRights10/06/25 04:10 AM
0

Fine. Go man up and pay your child support
/r/MensRights10/06/25 04:07 AM
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It doesn’t fit the “woman bad” echo chamber narrative.
/r/MensRights09/06/25 02:52 PM
-2

It’s ironic that this subreddit wants to deny that harmful gender roles exist since that’s pretty much the reason it exists in the first place.
/r/MensRights09/06/25 02:50 PM
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Well good for you that you weren’t personally raised in one of the culturally strict religious parts of the US. It’s not a small percentage of the population who are expected to play out strict gender roles. I was raised that way and wasn’t part of some extremist Amish community. Just non denominational Christians who would have been offended if you called them fundamentalists. There’s a lot of grey area between “extreme polygamist cults on TV” and people who are actually completely unbiased. In…
/r/MensRights09/06/25 02:49 PM
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Those women just want an excuse to bully people.
/r/MensRights08/06/25 04:32 PM
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Many of them still are treated that way, with the exception of voting.
/r/MensRights08/06/25 04:30 PM
4

💰💰💰
/r/MensRights07/06/25 07:19 AM
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Circumcision is equivalent to FGM but no one cares.
/r/MensRights06/06/25 10:02 PM
1

Yes to both of those things
/r/MensRights29/05/25 02:23 PM
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I wanted to say that but it sounded to conspiracy theorist
/r/MensRights29/05/25 02:22 PM
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What can I say. I like to argue I need to get it out of my system on Reddit so I don’t harass people in real life 😂 Reddit is so much of an echo chamber that I’m actually starting to get sick of all the divisive subs in general at this point though. It’s a bunch of people being extreme about everything.
/r/MensRights29/05/25 02:15 PM
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That’s really weird. I was sure I had one on here specifically complaining about the feminist subreddits, and I know I’ve never deleted any posts. I’ve been banned from random subs just for having activity here, so I know the type of thing you’re talking about, but I never had trouble with XX specifically. This feels like my own personal mini mandela effect. But I guess I was wrong.
/r/MensRights29/05/25 02:10 PM
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I have a post here and was not banned from XX
/r/MensRights29/05/25 01:58 PM
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I hope some hard thinking about life choices was done after it was said.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 06:18 PM
3

If you want genuine femininity then maybe you could look in religious stay at home mom homeschooler communities? They wear modest dresses, cook healthy meals, and believe that not honoring their husbands the way the church honors Jesus is sin.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 04:18 AM
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I have never in my life heard this thought experiment spoken from anyone.
/r/MensRights26/05/25 09:10 PM
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There was a post a few days ago asking why more women aren’t active in this subreddit, with the assumption that it proves that women don’t care about men. The downvotes on a genuine non offensive answer like this are the reason why. lol. This is such a hostile sub.
/r/MensRights26/05/25 02:59 PM
1

Where did I say that? Accusing someone of being dead to the suffering of others in real life just because they called Reddit an echo chamber cesspit is exactly the kind of extremism I’m talking about that makes this sub unwelcoming. Does your participation in feminist subs correlate with how much you care about women in real life?
/r/MensRights24/05/25 01:46 PM
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The downvotes I’m getting prove my point beautifully. And my opinion of those feminist subs is that they are also extreme. Anyone who isn’t an extremist gets pushed out of all political discussions and Reddit echo chambers in general. But you didn’t actually read my comment past the line that called this sub extreme, did you.
/r/MensRights24/05/25 01:45 PM
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Most women on Reddit don’t want to have anything to do with this sub because it has a lot of hateful extremist opinions and anyone who disagrees gets downvoted to oblivion. It’s exactly the same as all the feminist echo chambers, except that the mods here don’t ban people left and right.
/r/MensRights23/05/25 08:46 PM
1

This doesn’t make logical sense. If she started getting alimony at all then that means she was making less money than you from the beginning. Otherwise she would be the one paying it. If you can’t even afford to live on your own or save for retirement then neither can she. The payments will eventually stop, based on how long you were married. She will need to start making a living wage before that happens. “Hanging out with her boyfriend a lot.” What, like a roommate?
/r/MensRights23/05/25 04:52 PM
3

Alimony isn’t continued though. It’s supposed to be paid long enough for the woman to work her way up to a living wage so she isn’t left homeless overnight because she’s currently only making 20k a year minimum wage at a dead end job and doesn’t even own a car in her name to drive to work. It takes time to become financially independent if you’ve been a homemaker for decades. Alimony doesn’t last indefinitely. It’s usually only paid a couple years or so unless they’ve been married for decades. A…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 10:32 PM
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True. Also, the judge will factor taxes into the final amount of alimony, regardless whether the man or woman is the one paying the taxes. They’d just mandate a larger payment if she was the one paying them, to keep the level of support what it’s supposed to be. Threads like this make me glad I’m not a mom. I wouldn’t want to spend my best career days going through pregnancies and breastfeeding, picking kids up from school, and taking care of domestic duties, just to have an ex complain that the…
/r/MensRights22/05/25 06:37 AM
2

I’m thinking of how men are depicted in media being useless fools who are slowing women down and can’t even do their own jobs right. If not outright aggressive criminals and sex perverts. They look worse with every movie that comes out. How often are they shown bringing anything valuable to the table that women don’t, or being genetically different from them in any kind of positive way? Women are shown being able to beat men at arm wrestling and hand to hand combat, but aren’t often depicted as …
/r/MensRights20/05/25 01:49 PM
2

Social media and corrupt Hollywood that kids absorb as reality.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 05:17 PM
3

I also think there needs to be more acknowledgment of the effort that men put in to achieve those things and not just hating them through a misandrist lens like they’re destroying society by doing something productive. It’s socially acceptable in modern media cancel culture to call out men for being violent criminals, but not to encourage them to use those same abilities for anything productive. Like, “men are aggressive criminals who are dangerous.” But also, “Men don’t bring anything to the ta…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 05:12 PM
0

I agree. It used to be because of patriarchal laws that enforced rigid gender roles. In America that’s not much of a problem any more. There’s definitely a lot of social bias and pressure that makes it harder for women to attain positions of power, but it is legally possible for them to gain those roles if they try hard enough. Most men aren’t able to rise to the challenge either. Or don’t have enough nepotism privilege :P The disparity of genders in positions of power has more to do with biolog…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:58 PM
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This irritates me to no end. Also banning people from random subs just for existing in this one.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:14 PM
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At no point have I ever said or implied that there are no other forms of birth control. I specifically stated that abortion was only one of them in my previous comment before you brought the topic up in the first place. You’re arguing with the wind.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 03:02 PM
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I agree that women screwing men over in family planning is a serious issue. That doesn’t mean that men don’t benefit from abortions at all. SAHMs feel like passengers in their marriages to the high earning men who have financial control over them. That doesn’t mean that women can’t benefit from a traditional relationship if it’s healthy, and that they would be happier if their husbands earned less money. Demonizing abortion isn’t helping anyone. The topic of narcs screwing their partners over is…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 02:51 PM
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The passenger does not have the option to leave once they get in the car. If the driver crashes or decides to drop the passenger off in some remote area without cell reception then the passenger has no control over that. The same way that a man can’t end a relationship when the woman is actively pregnant. It’s like being in a moving vehicle that someone else is controlling. How about a different comparison? Does a man’s high salary not benefit the women he’s with just because they don’t have con…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 02:20 PM
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Ok, let me rephrase: abortion benefits men too, because how many want to be left raising 5 kids by themselves after their wife dies from an unviable pregnancy with the 6th that an abortion could have saved her from? Or his wife was raped and aborted the rapists child that the husband otherwise would have to raise as his own, or at the very least have to deal with the hassle and expense of pregnancy, birth, and adoption? Also, I specifically said FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL INCLUDING ABORTION because …
/r/MensRights19/05/25 02:00 PM
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I think the solution is partly what you’re saying about changing our culture to have more respect for monogamy and commitment (lol we’re disgusting), and partly about producing more media that shows what healthy relationships look like instead of endlessly fear mongering and acting like one gender is responsible for all the worlds problems, or that caring about relationships is “weak.” Liberal media says that only butch girl bosses who blatantly take for granted and disrespect the men around the…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 01:49 PM
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Just because men can’t force women to abort doesn’t mean that abortion is useless to them. Any man in a healthy relationship whose woman respects him will have a say in family planning. And he can pick a partner who is on board with not wanting a ton of kids, assuming he didn’t get unlucky with a narc partner who changed her mind and tampered with the birth control, which is not most women. Your argument is like saying that just because a passenger isn’t driving a vehicle, or because the driver …
/r/MensRights19/05/25 01:29 PM
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You’re not even listening to what I said. I’m not saying that women never baby trap men. I’m saying that it doesn’t happen in normal, healthy relationships. Men in happy marriages also benefit from abortion. Saying that abortion only benefits women is bonkers.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:08 AM
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I’m not saying it’s rare. Abusive relationships are quite common. But in any healthy relationship where partners respect each other, children will be a mutual decision and abortion will benefit the man just like the woman. Making blanket statements like “abortions are for whores and don’t benefit men or married women who want kids” is just extremist slander. It’s like saying “Being a SAHM only benefits men because they get a bangmaid.” Sure, in abusive relationships women can be treated that way…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 03:38 AM
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I don’t think dating apps are the main culprit. There’s like 10 men to every woman on those. So most women don’t even use them. I think it has a lot more to do with how internet addicted and antisocial people are in general the last couple decades. Kids are being raised learning their life lessons from bigoted TV shows, news outlets, and celebrities, instead of real life. Literal propaganda. It also seems like every generation is sicker than the last because of how unhealthy the standard America…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 02:25 AM
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Healthy relationships make compromises on life altering decisions that both partners are happy with, even if only one of them is physically doing the thing. If the couple is incompatible with things like family planning then they should have talked about that in the dating stage and broken up. Not to say that that men don’t have a serious disadvantage if they’re in an abusive relationship with a power tripping wife, crazy girlfriend, or a one night stand gone horribly wrong. But in healthy relat…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 01:56 AM
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What kind of sick ass relationships do you think most couples have? Usually in healthy relationships they decide on how many kids to have together.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 12:51 AM
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Abortion benefits men too. How many husbands want to provide for 15 kids because they had sex with their wife and no access to forms of birth control including abortion? People who have trouble finding sex partners is an entirely different topic. How should it even be fixed? Mandatory arranged marriages for everyone?
/r/MensRights19/05/25 12:27 AM
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Some women are gold diggers. Some men are exploitative tyrants. Do you not have any real friends? Have you never been in a happy romantic relationship? They exist but you have to weed through a lot of selfish narcs to find people who care.
/r/MensRights16/05/25 02:28 AM
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That line is meant to be tongue in cheek and come off as blatantly romanticized and superficial. Basically the soft core porn our great grandmothers were reading.
/r/MensRights15/05/25 08:59 PM
1

Do men have the attitude of “I’m gonna fuck all these hoes cause I’m not mamas lil boy anymore. They won’t find their baby daddy cause I’ll be long gone!” There are a lot of shock value lyrics in music for both genders. Also, most women WANT men in their lives even if they believe it’s safer to not by financially dependent on them or too obsessed with the idea of finding a Prince Charming who will give their life its one and only meaning. Like grow up, go to college, get a good paying job, becom…
/r/MensRights14/05/25 02:09 PM
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This whole argument sounds like the judgy people who call someone a poser if they wear a band tshirt and can’t name every one of their songs. Let people enjoy art. On the flip side, I do agree that there are a lot of sexist lyrics in music, both male and female.
/r/MensRights12/05/25 07:17 PM
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Still doesn’t make sense. You can listen to music about being a free rebel and still drive the car your parents gifted you. There’s a lot of grey area between being a free spirited independent person who also has their college paid for by parents, and never accepting help from anyone for any reason. And most people don’t live by the lyrics of the music they listen to anyway. How often do you hear people blasting music about rape and murder? Even assuming that it’s “daddy’s money” is kinda gross.…
/r/MensRights12/05/25 07:04 PM
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You think men aren’t nepo babies too? How do you know their mother didn’t buy the car? It’s generally expected that parents are gonna help out their kids somewhat, and in the case of rich people, straight up nepotism privilege. That isn’t gendered. My own postmaster and her son were both nepo babies. Her from her dad, her son from her. Who knows if the dad was a nepo baby too. I don’t know that part of the story but wouldn’t be surprised.
/r/MensRights12/05/25 05:15 PM
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This sounds exactly like women’s bangmaid theory of relationships
/r/MensRights10/05/25 05:55 PM
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I like how they add right at the end that the burns were so severe that all of his sweat glands were burnt off. Kind of like an afterthought.
/r/MensRights08/05/25 11:24 PM
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I don’t think most women want that. I’ve never in my life liked it when any man I wasn’t already in a relationship with or obviously flirting with for weeks touched me. I also dress down most of the time to avoid attention. I get extremely self conscious when men stare at me.
/r/MensRights08/05/25 06:26 PM
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It’s not whataboutism when everyone in these comments is blaming feminism and women as a whole for what the OP experienced.
/r/MensRights05/05/25 07:03 PM
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As someone who’s watched some nasty child custody cases, this is the right answer. I would also emphasize the consistency and receipts aspect. If you disengage completely they’ll write you off as a deadbeat. But if you act too crazy involved and emotional in a combative way they’ll penalize you. You need to show a willingness to be a consistent part of the kids schedule as much as possible, while also not acting “difficult” and fighting the courts. There are some absolute psychos working in chil…
/r/MensRights03/05/25 06:13 PM
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How many bad experiences have you had after holding the door open for a woman? I’m having a hard time conceptualizing what you’re talking about.
/r/MensRights03/05/25 05:52 PM
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For everyone saying feminism is responsible for this: why do you think that? What about conservative countries where women cover up head to toe just to avoid men LOOKING at them?
/r/MensRights03/05/25 05:38 PM
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Didn’t mean to delete that next comment. I was trying to delete a duplicate comment in this thread 🫥
/r/MensRights02/05/25 01:34 PM
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Your statistics don’t disprove what I said. I didn’t see them mention kidnapping or violent stranger rape at all. Just a bunch of unrelated crime stats. I’m not talking about abusive family members. I’ve never been a victim of domestic abuse by either gender, and most of the woman using the bear vs man argument haven’t either. I’m talking about who you need to worry about as a woman or child walking around in public. I’m talking about my daily experience as a woman worrying about my physical saf…
/r/MensRights02/05/25 01:24 AM
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I was just looking at a post from a makeup sub (so like 99% women) and everyone is complimenting a man on his makeup skills. If gender war topics upset you then get out of the extreme rage bait venting subs that center specifically around gendered struggles, including this one. And sure, go ahead and say that women are rude, before saying an inflammatory word in an inflammatory and condescending way, ignoring the context of WHY it’s seen as insulting. Do you realize that the people who take issu…
/r/MensRights01/05/25 04:49 PM
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Ok let me rephrase it: men are bigger, stronger, and have more testosterone than women. They are inherently more deadly and aggressive fighters. They are also sexually attracted to women making them a target of male violence. But the majority of men are normal people who care about their communities and would only ever fight someone to protect their loved ones. So yes and no. Physically men are inherently dangerous. Mentally they’re on a level with women.
/r/MensRights01/05/25 03:44 PM
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I used that as a simplified example so I wouldn’t have to type out an entire paragraph explaining it. Obviously stranger danger applies to all genders. But you also have to teach your kids to differentiate between threat levels for the times when they have to trust strangers. When you go to school, you can usually trust teachers. Same with the doctor, or camp counselors. Lots of kids are molested by teachers because they’re taught to trust them. But if you ever get lost as a kid you have to ask …
/r/MensRights01/05/25 03:39 PM
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It’s not generalizing all men as dangerous though. If it was, then yeah, that would be misandrist and gross. It’s pointing out the fact that we spend every day of our lives worrying about men, and hardly any time at all worrying about bears. Every time I go hiking, I spend way more time wondering if I’ll be murdered by a man than I do wondering if I’ll have to turn around and walk the other way because a bear wandered onto the trail. Hell, I’m more afraid of drugged out homeless women than I am …
/r/MensRights01/05/25 03:14 PM
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As a small child, I learned to be cautious around strange men from my mom, who was conservative and criticized feminism the same way people in this sub do. I thought “don’t take candy from strange men in vans” was something most kids learned, regardless of how progressive their families are. Not something they picked up from social media. Even as an adult, the women and MEN in my life worry that I’ll be attacked by a man anytime I go hiking by myself or on walks at night. They tell me not to go …
/r/MensRights01/05/25 02:45 PM
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And men treat women the same way in male subs. It’s the echo chamber groupthink mentality. Well adjusted people in real life don’t act like hate-filled drones. Most feminists also care about men’s issues, the same way that most men care about women’s. Most people in general aren’t extreme bigoted political activists. Generalizing everyone from feminist subs as misandrists is literally treating them the same way that they’re treating you when they say that everyone in r/mensrights is an angry inc…
/r/MensRights01/05/25 02:33 PM
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I don’t bitch to men about my clothes or makeup. That has nothing to do with the convo topic here anyway. The only reason I shave my legs at all is because my boyfriend prefers that I do. Don’t act like men don’t care about beauty standards. How many men tell women they’re disgusting freaks for shaving their head and not their armpits?
/r/MensRights28/04/25 04:48 PM
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Everyone knows a woman in heels isn’t actually as tall as she looks. So they’re not really “biologically connected” to her either. They could be seen as a vehicle of transportation the same as a flashy motorcycle. Everyone knows the motorcycle isn’t actually a part of his body. It just looks cool and is fun to use. The same as heels. And if you want to get into the whole “females trying to attract a mate with biology” argument, then yes, having money is one of the main things that people point o…
/r/MensRights28/04/25 02:12 PM
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Everyone makes fun of women for being “dumb blondes” when they dye their hair. And no, men are not looked at negatively for taking out auto loans or a mortgage. Or for signaling that they have good eye genetics by wearing contact lenses.
/r/MensRights28/04/25 01:50 PM
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Uhhhh… no. Women generally prefer taller men and men generally prefer shorter women. That’s just a product of sexual dimorphism. The same way that women prefer men with beards and men prefer women with smooth faces. Women like men with thick arms and men like women with thick thighs.
/r/MensRights28/04/25 01:46 PM
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Men lie about their wealth by driving a better car than they can afford. Maybe they shouldn’t cheat women by taking out auto loans. Or how about cutting their hair? That’s lying too. Women let theirs grow out but men just shave it all off so you don’t even know what it looks like. How is she supposed to pick a man with a healthy head of hair? He could be balding and she wouldn’t even know. It’s also kinda hard to determine attractiveness when men shave their beards off. What if she ends up with …
/r/MensRights28/04/25 01:40 PM
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Being tall isn’t a desirable trait for women though?
/r/MensRights28/04/25 01:21 PM
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This is the only right answer for the majority of people
/r/MensRights17/04/25 03:59 AM
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Where are you hearing these things? I’m in some feminist subreddits and I’ve never heard that. Is it a TikTok thing?
/r/MensRights07/04/25 12:07 AM
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Reinstating a draft would create civil unrest too, but you’re leaving that out. And I never said that civil unrest wasn’t a danger to the ruling class. You’re putting words in my mouth. Even if I did, it wouldn’t disprove what I said, since many leaders have stupidly taken actions that resulted in their own downfall.
/r/MensRights03/04/25 07:21 PM
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Again, your argument was that abolishing the draft for men is pointless because the powers that be would just create a new one. I’m saying that the same “tyrants” or circumstances that would cause such a thing to take place, would also cause women to be used as breeding stock instead of cannon fodder. Even if there were anti discriminatory laws in place along with the anti draft ones. Both would be tossed to the wayside on the same day. It takes a year to carry a pregnancy to term and recover af…
/r/MensRights03/04/25 07:17 PM
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Do you really think the corrupt tyrants of a country at the brink of being taken over by enemy forces will care about “equality of the sexes” when they’re not even considering the freedom of their male citizens at that point? Sure, they could go back on anything they tell the people in times of peace and instate a draft anyway, but at that point they wouldn’t care about sexism either.
/r/MensRights03/04/25 01:51 PM
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Why do we need to “achieve world peace” to begin with? If every country needs to enslave its people to fight for it then maybe it’s enslavement by the elites that’s causing global unrest in the first place. Feminism isn’t keeping women out of the military. Believers in traditional gender roles are more likely to be against allowing females in the military at all. You’re fighting the wrong battle if socially progressive feminists are the people you’re trying to convince. Maybe all these exploitat…
/r/MensRights03/04/25 01:29 PM
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Go google pics of women’s bellies who have given birth. They never look as attractive again. Giving birth sometimes triggers permanent auto immune disorders. Many women also develop issues with their teeth, hair, etc. because of mineral loss during pregnancy. Around 5% suffer permanent bladder issues. So they pee a little every time they sneeze or laugh for the rest of their lives. Not fun.
/r/MensRights03/04/25 02:23 AM
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I disagree that abolishing the draft is impossible. There are currently countries in the world that have never drafted their people. It’s literal slavery and shouldn’t be tolerated. If we don’t allow forced farm labor then why should we allow forced military labor?
/r/MensRights03/04/25 02:10 AM
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Yeah. Like make it a constitutional right to not get drafted. It’s literally a money laundering scheme by the military
/r/MensRights02/04/25 01:21 AM
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That like saying that we should allow female genital mutilation since so many baby boys are mutilated.
/r/MensRights02/04/25 01:08 AM
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I think it’s mostly the uber wealthy who are in favor of a draft.
/r/MensRights02/04/25 01:03 AM
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Sorry that’s your mom :( Mine is a POS.
/r/MensRights01/04/25 11:00 PM
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Show her the Ruby Franke documentary that just came out. Horrifying abusive women.
/r/MensRights01/04/25 10:33 PM
2

One interesting thing I noticed is that the washing machine seems to be one of the most time-saving appliances, and came right after WWII. Working class women went from having to spend an entire day of the week washing clothes, to being able to throw their laundry into a machine. That definitely allowed them to spend more hours working outside the home, as well as necessitating a higher income for the family to afford the machine. I’m actually glad you brought this up, because it turned out to b…
/r/MensRights01/04/25 06:32 PM
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I think we condense “feminism” down to just a single political movement today, when it’s really a lot of separate movements and ideologies by countless people throughout history. It didn’t pop up on a certain date and change the world overnight. Although you do make a good point that WWII and all the women who consequently entered the workforce did impact our current American lifestyle a lot. I hadn’t ever thought about it that way.
/r/MensRights01/04/25 06:15 PM
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Jesus Christ. Can’t disagree though.
/r/MensRights31/03/25 05:11 PM
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The media creates content that makes them money. They follow tried and true algorithms that have worked in the past. If that’s sexist propaganda then that’s what you see. TV isn’t real life. A lot of women in real life don’t see you as a sex pest, and also get uncomfortable by the same content.
/r/MensRights31/03/25 02:51 PM
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The quality is going 👎 The reason Reddit is (was) so good is because it’s like the Wild West.
/r/MensRights31/03/25 02:12 PM
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I would add that demonizing men in media is also harmful. There’s a thin line between spreading awareness and spreading hate. A lot of modern media is actually bigoted against men, not just calling out their bad behavior. It portrays them as an evil hive mind. Exclusively focusing on one gender’s flaws is slander, even if no lies were told.
/r/MensRights30/03/25 10:11 PM
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They ban women too. Anyone who isn’t an extreme misandrist. It’s disturbing. I can understand having a few safe space support subreddits that only allow one gender, but I’ve been banned from random subs like r/interestingasfuck just for having comments in r/mensrights.
/r/MensRights30/03/25 08:24 PM
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It’s a problem for women like me who get banned from feminist subs for “hating women” when we call out the man hating hypocrisy going on in them. I go to the subs that allow mixed discussion from both sides. Echo chambers start to feel tyrannical and anti-informative. If you know about any gender related subs that don’t cater to either extreme then let me know, btw. It’s actually a problem even in seemingly neutral subs like r/interestingasfuck. I was banned from there just for having comments i…
/r/MensRights30/03/25 08:17 PM
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I (a woman) can affirm that this sub is more tolerant than some of the feminist ones. I might get downvoted to oblivion here, but haven’t been outright banned (yet).
/r/MensRights30/03/25 08:13 PM
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I have the same problem. I’ve been blocked from several feminist subs for being disruptive and “causing too many reports.” They always get me for some ultra specific rule that everyone else is braking, or a sarcastic comment that was misinterpreted to be hateful even after I clarified what I meant. I’ve literally been banned just for being active in this sub at all and refusing to delete my comments and unfollow it.
/r/MensRights30/03/25 08:10 PM
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Fair enough
/r/MensRights30/03/25 05:06 PM
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Childbirth does painfully and permanently damage your body though, and this whole subreddit is full of men who take that, as well as the number of hours involved in raising children, completely for granted. They’re seeing things from the perspective that women, instead of working, chose to casually stroll grocery aisles with a latte to relax. When in fact, those women are doing a physically strenuous job with no vacation time or retirement other than what their husbands chose to “share” with the…
/r/MensRights30/03/25 05:01 PM
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You actually got me curious about the exact timeline so I did some googling. Some of the dates are hard to find so it was difficult to be cohesive. The Industrial Revolution happened between 1760-1840. The suffrage movement happened from 1848-1920, when the 19th amendment was ratified. Time saving household appliances are powered by electricity. 1882: The first house in the US to be powered by electricity. 1900: Electricity was first being brought to mainstream homes. 1910: About 10% of US homes…
/r/MensRights30/03/25 04:48 PM
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My question to you is, would you rather that women wait until their man is home to leave the kids with him and do the shopping at 6pm, only to have dinner ready by 8pm? Isn’t it in the man’s own interest for his wife to have dinner waiting when he gets back? Men on Reddit always talk about how what they really want is a submissive house servant who will take care of them and their kids, not an aggressive career woman making 6 figures. How many unemployed women do you think there are who just str…
/r/MensRights30/03/25 11:01 AM
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The point is that it’s not an easy cakewalk like these people are saying it is. Being a mom isn’t a chill and fun hobby that women do for funsies. It takes much more effort and is more dangerous than a regular 9-5. It’s exhausting work. Women shouldn’t be shamed for shopping for groceries to make dinner for their families. Go ahead and shame the women who are meth heads pimping their kids out for drug money.
/r/MensRights30/03/25 10:51 AM
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Dating apps (ie, cheating, hookup, and affair apps created to earn money for the developers) aren’t representative of women in real life. Plenty of average salary men under 6ft are in relationships. The apps have a huge bias in favor of women because so few of them use the apps. If there are 10 men for every woman on there, then of course those women will go for the top 10% of men. Not to mention that women who are only hooking up won’t have a problem sleeping with someone who already has a lot …
/r/MensRights30/03/25 10:45 AM
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Most women give birth at some point. 100% of them develop permanent damage from it. Even if it’s not usually enough to kill them. It still causes health issues.
/r/MensRights30/03/25 03:59 AM
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6 kids isn’t actually that many. The stay at home trad wife people usually have twice that much. The modern women who have 2 or 3 kids are normally working a job on the side to full the extra time. Either way they’re hard working people.
/r/MensRights30/03/25 03:58 AM
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Never said they were a representative of the majority. I said that the possibility of running into strange men while camping is far more concerning to me than encountering bears. Men are the only reason I don’t go out by myself at night. They’re the reason I feel safer driving into the mountains and taking a walk in the night air alone, than walking in an actual city where there are no wild animals. Those are the facts. Doesn’t mean I hate all men.
/r/MensRights30/03/25 03:55 AM
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Sure, certain cultural factors may have facilitated the feminist movement in the west. You said that feminism was only possible because of modern technology though, which isn’t true.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 09:56 PM
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No way. What industry?
/r/MensRights29/03/25 07:53 AM
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Maybe I just work way more overtime than you. When I was doing 8 hour shifts I had a lot more energy for that stuff.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 06:52 AM
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I agree that some women use this argument to hate on men. But there are others who are actually serious about it. I’ve gone camping by myself in areas where I sometimes run into bears. Didn’t feel like I needed a man with me. In not sure what a man could do to protect me anyway. A bear would kill him too if it wanted. But I’ve never been camping alone in a real campsite, because I’m worried about aggressive men. I wouldn’t want to sleep on a city street either for the same reason. I literally ta…
/r/MensRights29/03/25 06:50 AM
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The husbands of these women you see getting groceries at noon aren’t shopping themselves though, or doing most of the child care. They’re more likely working overtime to support their families. The reason you don’t see as many men shopping is because their wives are doing it for them. I agree that a wealthy SAHW with no young kids would be living the easy life. But most people can’t afford house cleaners, surrogate moms, nannies, and personal grocery shoppers. They have to do those things themse…
/r/MensRights29/03/25 02:21 AM
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You go through hours excruciating pain while being ripped apart from the inside and acquire lifelong injuries like incontinence and visual blemishes with every birth, on top of risking your life each time. Then you have to wake up every few hours in the middle of the night to feed an infant, change its diaper, and hold it while it’s screaming, all while recovering. I would like to have kids, but never want to experience childbirth or caring for an infant under 2 years. I would rather work a 60 h…
/r/MensRights28/03/25 11:47 PM
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Going to Costco after a 10 hr shift is something I dread. I would love to have a partner do that for me during the day.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 10:45 PM
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Yes. Most people start having kids in their 20s. Most people can’t afford 20k a year for childcare that early on in their career.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 09:28 PM
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As a woman who works around 50 hrs a week at a physically demanding blue collar job, I would not trade that for being a stay at home mom. I saw my own mom do that with 6 kids and she was always exhausted from working all day 7 days a week and developed health issues from giving birth so many times. I’ll keep my cushy job where I at least get a couple of days off each week to rest, and only develop minor repetitive stress injuries.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 09:23 PM
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I know. At least use an example of women blowing cash in casinos, or going to the movie theater. Not shopping for ingredients to make their family food. That’s literally work.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 09:13 PM
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Not for poor people
/r/MensRights28/03/25 09:12 PM
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I know. Like going to Wholefoods is “fun.” That’s literally work, even if it does involve spending money. Who wants to spend their free time shopping for groceries? Later she’s gonna go home and cook the food she bought, pack lunches for 3 kids herself and her husband, pick them up from soccer practice, clean the house, give them a bath, and put them to bed. On top of working a part time job. Women are more likely to be the ones getting domestic labor done as opposed to developing a high level d…
/r/MensRights28/03/25 09:08 PM
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Ok those examples do actually sound crazy. Your ex sounds like a hypochondriac. Being with someone like that would probably make me hate the argument altogether. And using the man vs bear argument to prove a political ideology that focuses 90% on non gendered issues definitely sounds like experiences I’ve had talking to people about politics. I hate when feminists act like every republican hates women, or like men are single handedly ruining the country. Some people turned the US’s last election…
/r/MensRights27/03/25 04:55 PM
1

I never said being eaten by a bear is fun. I said it’s less horrible than the things some men will do to you. Men you are statistically 99% likely going to meet at multiple points of your life as a woman in all but the most sheltered of cases, as well as the less life threatening but still harmful sexual harassment and assault encountered much more frequently. I’m not gonna pretend to know the exact statistics, but it’s a big chunk of men. Getting mauled by a bear happens to very few women and i…
/r/MensRights27/03/25 01:33 PM
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The only real life conversations is I’ve had about it were more about people’s reactions to it than the topic itself. Have you had women randomly tell you they would rather be around bears? What was the context?
/r/MensRights27/03/25 01:18 PM
1

The strength of a grizzly compared to a man doesn’t matter when both are strong enough to kill a woman with their bare hands. Only the man will also torture her, making him more of a threat. You’re the one who brought up women, not me. I don’t have to resort to extreme examples. I used that one to illustrate in a very clear way why women might prefer to die by bear. But plenty of smaller violent crimes are committed on a daily basis. Women know that it’s unlikely they’ll have light bulbs broken …
/r/MensRights27/03/25 06:01 AM
1

I never said men can’t talk about how they’re more afraid of other humans than bears.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 05:40 AM
1

Honestly, this might be an issue of TikTok rage bait more than anything else. That’s the sense I’m getting from this comment section. I don’t spend a lot of time watching clips like that as opposed to scrolling Reddit, so maybe I just haven’t seen the worst of it.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 03:36 AM
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There is a very large statistical probability and strength difference between physically violent men and women. I never worry about leaving the house alone because of women outside. I’ve never feared for my safety during an encounter with a woman. I have with men.
/r/MensRights27/03/25 03:19 AM
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The man vs bear debate might not make psycho rapists change their minds, or (arguably) have much effect on the rest of men other than to make them feel attacked or disgusted since they’re not the ones harming women, but it is useful to women themselves. It can be validating to hear as someone who is constantly having to make life decisions around avoiding men. It comes off to me as a small and very simplistic thought experiment. Not anything I would think about for more than a few seconds or say…
/r/MensRights27/03/25 03:16 AM
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What feminine hobbies don’t include men? The only ones I’ve seen brought up here are movies, books, and comics. The entertainment industry is definitely liberal progressive right now and caters to things like women’s empowerment, LGBTQ, anti capitalism, etc. I’ve definitely noticed a lot of hatred for men in modern tv shows, to the point where it makes me not want to watch them anymore. I can’t think of any women’s hobbies that specifically exclude men though. Things like tarot and sewing groups…
/r/MensRights27/03/25 02:05 AM
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I stopped watching the Harley Quinn show partly because the quality went down after the first season, and partly because the sexism was bothering me.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 03:00 PM
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I’m not condoning women who use these arguments to be misandrist. There are a lot of hateful women out there. But the man vs bear argument itself is much more nuanced than that, and brushing it off as purely bigoted and harmful is similar to telling men they shouldn’t talk about their own struggles. On a different note, I don’t spend much time on TikTok or similar social media, so I might not be seeing the worst of the extremism. It is possible that an unacceptable percentage of TikTok’s are act…
/r/MensRights26/03/25 01:19 AM
1

That’s a pretty meta argument about the internet as a whole. Any negative topic can be hurtful. Does that mean that they should never be brought up? I spend a lot of time criticizing homeschool parents, who are like 99% women and their husband enablers. It’s nice to vent about it because it’s something that’s personally affected me in my life. If someone doesn’t want to hear about it, they can go somewhere else. I don’t see the issue with women venting about the constant stress of having to worr…
/r/MensRights26/03/25 01:09 AM
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More men are killed each year by other men than by women. Most men don’t worry about walking alone at night because they could encounter a strange woman.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 12:41 AM
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The difference in dangerousness of bear species is a fair point. I only live near black bears and rattlesnakes. Neither of those are as dangerous as strange men in an isolated area. If you wanna talk polar bears though… then yeah, I would take my chances with the random meth head. But also, if we’re talking worst case scenario with the most dangerous bears, then it would be fair to include the most dangerous men. I would rather die quickly by polar bear than Junko Feruta style over weeks. Hell, …
/r/MensRights26/03/25 12:38 AM
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I go hiking by myself sometimes and prefer to encounter bears over men. Both are most likely to leave me alone. But worst case scenario if I were attacked, I’d rather be attacked by a bear. I’ve never been followed creepily by bears the way men have done a handful of times. Once I had to escape through a hole in a fence to avoid a man who was following me for several minutes. That was almost enough to make me never hike alone again. No bear or rattlesnake encounter I’ve had has made me rethink t…
/r/MensRights26/03/25 12:20 AM
1

I go hiking a lot, and I’m much more afraid of men than bears. In order, the things I’m most worried about are men, rattlesnakes, and then bears. And if you think that being eaten by bears is worse than being murdered by men, google Junko Feruta.
/r/MensRights26/03/25 12:14 AM
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That’s not the same argument. The equivalent would be to say that trees are less mean, so you would feel safer venting to one than some random woman. The tree won’t hurt you. Once you know someone well enough to judge their character (like a partner) that human can still offer you something trees and bears can not.
/r/MensRights25/03/25 02:52 PM
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/r/MensRights25/03/25 01:50 PM
1

Are they actually saying they would rather be in relationships with bears? I haven’t heard that. If so: 💀
/r/MensRights25/03/25 04:32 AM
2

I’m actually less worried about strange men than by boyfriend. I used to go on late night walks in the city but stopped because it made him worry too much. Which brings up an important point: strange men and men you trust are two very different things, and anyone making blanket statements that ALL men are dangerous is sexist. Strange women are untrustworthy too, and can be equally “evil.” They’re just much less likely to be physically violent in public. They’re not the reason I stopped walking a…
/r/MensRights25/03/25 12:21 AM
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I agree with all of your points and your overall sentiment, but disagree on your take on the man vs bear debate. It’s not about preferring animals to men, as if they were some lower life form below animals. It’s about bringing up the reality that men are a bigger threat to women than bears. Men account for far more violence towards women than any animal. Most women if given the chance, would prefer to be killed by a bear than a man. Because at least the bear won’t torture you out of hate or rape…
/r/MensRights25/03/25 12:04 AM
2

This whole platform just turns into echo chamber insanity sometimes. It makes me feel crazy.
/r/MensRights24/03/25 01:35 PM
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Hopefully that will make this sub come off as less hateful. I’m coming at you with the perspective of a feminist woman who sees a lot of sexist bullshit and will have a knee jerk reaction to any post that can also be interpreted that way, thinking it’s just one more of them. If I saw your post that way then there are definitely a lot of other women who will come to this subreddit and misinterpret it as bigoted content. Then they learn nothing but further in-group bias, and this sub gets widely l…
/r/MensRights24/03/25 01:27 PM
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No, because it sounds like you’re implying that women being reasonably safe is misandrist, since you never mentioned actual misandry in your OP. That was an important detail to add. Not even a detail, considering it was the main point you were trying to make. There unfortunately are a lot of Redditors who say that any woman who takes reasonable precautions is a man hater, so people will assume you’re one of those if you leave out important information.
/r/MensRights24/03/25 12:59 PM
2

I would be more specific with the way you phrase things like this. The way you wrote your OP, it sounds like you’re saying that women are sexist for being reasonably cautious around men. All that does is make it look like you’re an extremist getting mad about nothing, and most people won’t take the time to really think about what you’re actually trying to say. And what you’re saying is actually important.
/r/MensRights23/03/25 09:40 PM
1

The OOPs logic doesn’t even make sense. Plenty of people have non venomous snakes as pets.
/r/MensRights23/03/25 09:30 PM
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There’s an important distinction between saying that women need to be careful around men, and saying that men are collectively evil. Men know that they need to be careful walking alone at night on city streets because they could get beat and mugged. Women know that they need to guard their drink at bars so they don’t get roofied and raped. Women have to have the mindset that every man in a bar is a potential rapist, because letting her guard down around even one of them could get her beaten or k…
/r/MensRights23/03/25 09:23 PM
2

Not to mention children who are taken advantage of by adults
/r/MensRights22/03/25 08:31 PM
3

Pedophile apologetics
/r/MensRights22/03/25 08:29 PM
3

Pedophile apologetics
/r/MensRights22/03/25 08:26 PM
1

I’m gonna need a credible source that Indian men are committing suicide in record numbers because women in the government won’t make laws gender neutral. The people passing those laws are men in a patriarchal society, no? How is that women’s fault? India is notorious for having one of the most corrupt and archaic governments in the world. Not to mention sexist, which would explain any gender discrimination going on. It’s not a feminist country. You see posts all the time about how it horrificall…
/r/MensRights22/03/25 01:21 PM
1

I don’t think I brought up anything in my post that is specifically caused by women. People aren’t leaving community spaces “because of women.” That has more to do with the rise of the internet and modern infrastructure, and the decline of religion and a traditional lifestyle. Dating apps weren’t invented and monetized or have the gender disparity they do “because of women.” That has more to do with our changing values around casual sex, the nature of monetization, and the fact that they’re inhe…
/r/MensRights22/03/25 12:52 PM
1

I’m not sure how the things you brought up relate to what I said.
/r/MensRights21/03/25 06:47 PM
2

There will always be some cases of rape. Unless all humans are kept in single cell cages by asexual alien overlords.
/r/MensRights20/03/25 12:03 AM
1

A less pessimistic reasoning would be that if you’re going to force an innocent life into this world, then you should at least do the bare minimum and give it a reasonable quality of life.
/r/MensRights20/03/25 12:02 AM
2

lol
/r/MensRights19/03/25 11:59 PM
1

They mean that the child never asked to be born. In cases of rape, you could argue that since you were forced into sex, then technically the person who raped you is actually the cause.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 01:46 PM
2

What about cases of rape?
/r/MensRights19/03/25 01:39 PM
8

Yeah if you’re going to put someone on the line for child support, there should be evidence to back it up.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 01:38 PM
8

As a feminist woman, I agree.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 01:35 PM
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Speaking as a woman, I think it has more to do with a lack of third spaces than poverty. We used to meet other people our age at church and during other social activities. (Edit: Instead of spending time in public, we all go home after work and spend our entire weekends watching TV, playing video games, and scrolling social media. Increasing secularization means that most of us don’t even spend a few hours on Sunday at church or any equivalent.) It’s easy to see how men would get discouraged whe…
/r/MensRights19/03/25 03:35 AM
1

I actually agree with a lot of posts in that subreddit. But any extremist political sub like it can turn into a mob mentality echo chamber very easily. It makes it difficult to take any of it seriously sometimes. It becomes UNHUMAN.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 12:17 AM
3

She was complaining that the second man didn’t defend her against aggressive sexist harassment. Ironic.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:26 PM
3

The whole thing was disturbing because he literally tried to deescalate and leave the area and she just kept blocking his way and yelling at him. Later she saw him again at the checkout line and was disappointed that he just ignored her instead of reengaging. The initial offense that started this dramafest? He bumped her shopping cart to the side with his own as he walked down the aisle, and she was standing by the shelves looking for groceries. She also got mad that another man in the aisle gav…
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:19 PM
2

At the same time, they were all calling him a manchild for pushing her cart out of the way, which you could also interpret as an ableist insult. Hahaha To be fair, I do like to troll people. But still.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:13 PM
3

I called the OP a narcissist for yelling at a man in the grocery store and intentionally blocking the aisle with her cart. They said I was being ableist.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:09 PM
6

I’m feminist and disagree with the vast majority of posts on this sub, and even I’ve been temp banned from twoXchromosomes. lol
/r/MensRights18/03/25 07:03 PM
1

That’s like saying that there were “some” free black people before the civil war. Doesn’t make a difference.
/r/MensRights14/03/25 07:00 AM
2

Wow a real human on Reddit
/r/MensRights08/03/25 02:55 AM
2

lol you’re right
/r/MensRights05/03/25 02:33 AM
0

Zero legal regulation around abortion Abolish the draft Tighter homeschool regulations to avoid child abuse/neglect Honestly those are the only 4 that immediately come to mind that I care deeply about. There are many flaws in the US legal system, but I’m not politically educated enough to speak on all of them or offer a better alternative.
/r/MensRights04/03/25 09:47 PM
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I’m very feminist and circumcision is in the top 5 things I would change about our laws if I could. It’s a disgusting barbaric infringement on bodily autonomy. They literally make money off of selling baby skin.
/r/MensRights04/03/25 08:12 PM
0

Clearly you’ve never had to date men as a woman. If you don’t act carefully, you will literally be tortured or murdered. The men who will abuse and rape you are sometimes the most charismatic, handsome and successful people out there. It’s not man hating to say that.
/r/MensRights02/03/25 05:36 PM
3

There’s a distinction between recognizing that seemingly normal people can be abusive, and saying that all men are abusive and we should hate and fear every one of them. The OOP never said that all men are untrustworthy monsters. They never said that we should go our entire lives feeling suspicious of the men we know and trust. They said that the men who are rapists appear to have normal lives, with broken people enabling them. Those are two different things. Most abuse (male and female) comes f…
/r/MensRights02/03/25 02:38 PM
1

Every rapist is part of a family though. Every rapist is a son, an uncle, a brother. That’s the reality of life. Just because a child molester turns out to be someone you’re related to doesn’t mean you should turn a blind eye their abuse. It’s like telling kids that sometimes you have a mother who is verbally abusive and uncaring, and you might have to cut her out of your life in order to stop her abuse. Not all monsters are stinky guys in vans. Some of them are relatives or coworkers. It’s an i…
/r/MensRights02/03/25 05:21 AM
1

It’s not saying all men are rapists. It’s saying “be careful, rapists can appear like normal people and trick you. Don’t be naive and get hurt.” And yes, saying that cheating women can come off as charismatic, likable, and attractive is absolutely true and all young people should be taught that.
/r/MensRights02/03/25 03:27 AM
1

I don’t think the OOP is saying that all men are rapists. They’re saying that rapists are normal people who walk among us. Not inhuman monsters who you would immediately recognize. It’s warning us all to watch out for bad people in the world. Replace “rapist” with any other horrible thing, serial killers, psychopaths, cheating spouses, con artists…
/r/MensRights02/03/25 02:39 AM
8

It’s disturbing what we view as normal based off of cultural brainwashing. Anyone else would think we’re barbaric and disgusting for cutting off flesh from babies dicks.
/r/MensRights28/02/25 12:13 AM
6

Abolish the draft. It’s literal slavery.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:25 AM
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I agree. It sounds like a nerdy rant about archetypes.
/r/MensRights17/10/24 11:35 PM
2

I was CPR certified in California about 7 years ago, and was taught to always ask the victim if you can help before touching them. If they say yes or continue choking without giving a response, you can legally help them. If they say no, push you away, or give any indication that they don’t want your help, that’s when they can legally sue you.
/r/MensRights16/10/24 03:05 PM
1

The moral reason I mentioned above. A significant percentage of women won’t get an abortion for moral reasons. Or because their family will disown them and leave them homeless if they get one.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 04:06 AM
1

And the courts aren’t inherently biased against men. I know families where the man got full custody. It’s circumstantial.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 02:43 PM
2

Most of the time when men don’t get custody it’s because they don’t fight for it. Most of them don’t actually want it so it goes to the mother. They’re deadbeats.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 02:42 PM
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If it weren’t for the deeply ingrained, shameful, moral and religious stigma around abortion, I might actually be in favor of giving men an opt out period during pregnancy. Similar to adoption.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 12:42 AM
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Abortion is about a persons choice over what’s happening inside of their own body. Childbirth is life threatening, and at the very least leads to the mother’s body being permanently and painfully damaged and disfigured. No one is forcing men to give birth. And child support isn’t gendered. Women also have to pay it if the father is the primary caretaker. There’s nothing unequal about that. It’s not like men are paying pregnant women’s medical bills. All they have to do is pay for born children, …
/r/MensRights12/09/24 12:38 AM
2

I hope you’re able to find more self agency in your life moving forward. Whether you’re in Europe or even if it’s just mentally around the people you already know. And I hope you have some good people in your life who care about you as a person, even if your parents don’t.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 01:14 PM
1

Hey, did they at least get you a graduation cake since they apparently care more about that than you? :P
/r/MensRights22/05/24 04:04 AM
2

You’ve kind of triggered a landslide of a comment here, but hopefully it will be interesting to read. It definitely helped me process some things. Both of my parents took me on hiking and camping trips and did other activities like visiting museums, libraries, and aquariums. They also read books and told stories to me when I was little. My mom taught me a lot of basic life skills like cooking, cleaning, and sewing. Also a lot of fun art projects. She spent a lot of time teaching me about religio…
/r/MensRights22/05/24 12:32 AM
0

As a woman I have to disagree. I don’t personally notice a gendered difference, only personality differences. I liked getting all of the above things from my dad.
/r/MensRights21/05/24 10:31 PM
0

If you’re going to make that argument then you need to prove that feminists support drafting men in the first place.
/r/MensRights23/07/23 07:01 AM
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