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What’s also important about this is that it’s a “feeling”. Women need to “feel” safe and I think if men don’t understand this then they will still struggle with women. A guy will see that a woman is objectively safe and not understand why she’s still acting scared. (I.e. on a roller coaster you’re technically safe, but you don’t feel safe) and because we have a protective instinct guys will respond to a woman’s fear by trying to make themselves seem less risky(I’m not like the “bad boy”) which u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:09 PM
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Seems like a complicated way of saying hot people like to pair up with other hot people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:54 AM
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Well from a nature/biological standpoint it is pointless. Guys have the luxury of thinking like this because we can’t get pregnant, don’t need protection and can produce our own resources. It makes sense for a woman to respond to the end of relationships the way they do because historically a guy not staying around put her(and any children) in a real vulnerable/dangerous position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 11:50 AM
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I just think it’s more important than ever for you to understand what your skill, talent, attributes etc. are so that you’re putting your energy into the right things. If you don’t have conventional attractiveness, it really just means OLD might not be your arena, but that’s not the only arena for you to play in. Our ego can end up being the most dangerous thing to us going forward, because that will be the main force that keeps us from adjusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:29 PM
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That’s a good question. I do believe we need a similar adjustment, but not so much in trying to make the current system more “fair” to us, but in realizing it’s the system itself that’s just outdated. Feminism went first in trying to update it for women, but men absolutely need an update. A new vision for masculinity as a whole is really what’s needed imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 04:17 PM
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I think once Manuel labor stopped being so necessary is when men started to really struggle. Society values more specialized skills now (tech), OLD has made men’s looks/status more important now - then you mix feminism into that and you have the perfect ingredients for male crisis on your hands. The rage you see in our society (American) today is the rage of the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 02:43 PM
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Japanese men and American men aren’t any different, just our cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:29 AM
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If a woman keeps herself in shape and isn’t irritating to be around she’ll be fine in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:17 AM
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That’s not the definition of the wall tho. The wall doesn’t mean 30+ 40+ women can’t be pretty, no more than it means every 23 year old girl is hot; it just means that there’s a point in which a woman believes her best physical days are behind her and as a result what she looks for in a partner changes (or in TRP terminology the beta guy becomes desirable). The wall is in her head
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 01:00 PM
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So both men and women want the hottest people and when a large portion of them realize they can’t get the hottest people, men ignorantly keep trying and women just end up settling. I think we just suck as humans
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 12:36 PM
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Yeah I’m not gonna lie, being in a woman’s position when it comes to dating doesn’t seem attractive at all. By being the one who’s being “pursued” you’re put in a position where you have to hope a guy you’re attracted to actually approaches you, then hope he knows what he’s doing enough in order create that spark, then discern whether his intentions are genuine or not, then hope he remains interested enough in you to keep pursuing you and making an effort, just for most to drop off a cliff one d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 05:26 AM
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Of course men have a natural instinct to protect. Your instincts don’t know the difference between what’s yours and what isn’t, only your consciousness knows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:43 PM
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I’m not morally opposed to it, it really has nothing to do with that. There’s just so many more variables that go into women making decisions about men. This study just shows you one of those variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:17 AM
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The premise of the paper is simple. I could care less if a rich man and a poor woman get together. The problem is thinking that you have a better chance with women if you just try and find the ones in economically bad situations. If you’re struggling in dating I promise you the problem is not you’re around women in too good of an economic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:00 AM
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Not negotiating desire. I’m talking about the fact that humans just don’t follow every instinct/proclivity they have. Men have a natural instinct to protect right? But we don’t go around protecting everything and everyone. We consciously pick and choose what we get involved with even though the proclivity to protect is always there. And I don’t believe it’s in our best interest to look for women in the worst circumstances...What happens when her circumstances get better?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:41 AM
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Absolutely not. I would never make decisions about women based on biology/evolution. I know TRP has a hard on for evolutionary psychology, but understand that the way evolution shows up in everyday life is through our proclivities. Women have a proclivity towards taller men. Women have a proclivity for more masculine features during good economic times. The problem is women override this all the time and it’s impossible to determine when they’ll override an instinct and when they won’t. When you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 06:27 AM
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Makes sense. If things are going well then I want a man who can give me the best looking babies(genes). If things aren’t going well then a man who can produce resources becomes the priority even if she has to sacrifice beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:58 AM
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(35m) To be honest, I really saw this as an opportunity to write something really profound, deep and inspirational...but one thing you do as you get older is really learn to cut out all the bullshit. I will leave you with this tho. Your choices and decisions matter, love the people who love you, use the tough seasons in life to prepare for the good ones, forgive the best you can and it’s ok to say “no”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 07:12 PM
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“Cite all the studies you want, but the reality is most women will and can get boyfriends and marry just fine whether folks like it or not” This right here. This should be framed for this sub. There really is no kind of behavior that is going to keep women from having relationships with men if that’s what they want. The strategy for many men (especially TRP) seems to be shame women into scarcity so that more men will have a chance instead of rising to the standard that the women you’re attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 04:17 AM
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Of course it does. If you go on a date with 2 women and one of them wants to fuck your brains out and the other doesn’t, which one are you gonna believe is more interested? It’s hard to argue that the girl who doesn’t want to fuck you is more attracted to you than the one who does. It being a good indicator of long term interest is a completely different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 12:15 AM
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I think closure can be very important, especially for people who’ve put a lot of time and energy into someone/relationship. Have we gotten silly with it? Definitely. If you need “closure” after someone ghosted you after a first date then you’re just a child, but there are definitely legitimate circumstances where closure is important IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 08:15 PM
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It’s not that “women are attracted to assholes” it’s that women are attracted to masculinity. “Asshole behavior” really isn’t what’s attractive, it’s just what’s being tolerated because it comes with a lot of the masculine behaviors that women do find attractive. And to a lot of “nice guys” It looks like women like assholes because they see them with guys who don’t have to alter their behavior in order to be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:07 PM
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On a fundamental level it’s biological. A mans number 1 concern from a biological/evolutionary standpoint is to make sure his genes are passed on. So, naturally, paternity is the one thing a man must be sure of. This is why most men have such a negative reaction to high partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:11 PM
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You pursue a girl, You have sex with her, You stop talking to her
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 02:24 PM
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That’s not how hypergamy works. Hypergamy doesn’t need to always have someone who’s settling. It’s just the principle that women want the best men available, but the man that she can get is determined by what she brings to the table. The world isn’t filled with 5/10 women marrying 9/10 men. Celebrities date other celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 09:28 PM
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Exactly. I think the paradox of relationships are important tho. It’s like an evolved way to make sure we stay balanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:16 PM
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Are those features arbitrary tho? We’ve evolved over time to be attracted to what we’re attracted to. There’s nothing about what we’re attracted to that hasn’t come from humans behaving with each other over time. Someone initially wanting to talk to you just because they thought you were physically attractive is not bad or make their interest in you illegitimate. Poor people see everything through the lens of money and people who’ve grown up unattractive see everything through the lens of physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:55 PM
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Tbh I’ve noticed the more someone likes themselves the less concerned they are with whether someone else likes them or not. The more insecure the more assurance you need. I think maturity is when you understand people aren’t straight jackets. You finally accept the fact that someone can love you yet still think the barista at Starbucks was cute. That you can love me yet not necessarily like me at every minute of every day. I understand now that people who are really ready for a relationship are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 01:15 PM
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The goal shouldn’t be how do you stop taking rejection personally. That’s not possible. You can get to a point in which it just doesn’t bug you as much as it did before, but ultimately you can’t completely get rid of it and still remain human. It’s ok not to feel great after being rejected and thinking you’ll get to this magical place where rejection doesn’t affect you at all is unrealistic at best and naive at worst. The goal should be to not let rejection STOP you. I tell myself that rejection…
/r/seduction22/05/20 06:05 PM
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I believe online dating has been a great thing. It’s given so many people a chance to date who wouldn’t be able to because of geography or work circumstances. Sure it’s not for everyone, but there’s a 1,000 ways to meet people outside of OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 02:57 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 02:33 AM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:50 PM
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I just posted a link in the description
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:15 PM
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Well in the context of the question we’re talking about romantic relationships not just human connection in general. And no, people aren’t naturally hard wired for romantic relationships. The idea of monogamy or love relationships is still a relatively new concept as far as human coupling is concerned. Society didn’t require that people had romantic relationships to get to this point. “Society literally wouldn’t exist if people weren’t hard wired to form connections” I agree but that’s not what …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 08:38 PM
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No one is hard wired for relationships. It’s a trait that has to be cultivated just like anything else. Do some people (especially women) have a natural proclivity for connection? Sure. But ultimately learning how to choose the right people for yourself is really what everyone should be putting their energy into, regardless of how well you think you are at relationships. It’s going to be hard to enjoy the company of anyone who isn’t a fit for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:50 PM
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Ok let’s use your example, but instead you find out the ugly dude is also poor. Would you need to further investigate because there has to be some form of information that explains it? Or would you be able to just accept the fact that there’s something there that information might not explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:05 PM
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I think that’s a great point. Like there’s a place you really can’t get to with women without being comfortable with being uncomfortable. That uncomfortableness that comes with risk and you’re right, the pills are all about mitigating risk. It’s very hard for men to live consistently in that place with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:01 PM
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I hear what you’re saying...what defines a unicorn for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:42 PM
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Well put. I wonder if that’s what the purple pill is truly supposed to be? The fact that you allow the element of intersectional relationships that isn’t quantifiable to be more apart of the conversation. Thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:41 PM
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This is exactly the issue I believe is left out of most “pill” discussions. The complexity of human beings is such that not allowing the gross psychological variables to be part of the discussion seems extremely irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:34 PM
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Examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:15 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:13 PM
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If you think you found a “unicorn” do you believe you would be able to trust it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:13 PM
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Is this question being asked in the context of a purely sexual experience? Are you asking what percentage of men would rather have sex with an unattractive woman who’s enthusiastic in bed over a beautiful woman who’s not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:41 PM
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Well being undesirable is more of a self perception than an objective truth. Men(or women’s) twisted conceptions about the opposite sex has more to do with how they see themselves more than anything. Nevertheless, I see what you’re saying. If you objectively have a man who isn’t desired by women because of circumstances that are beyond his control than it ceases to be a notion to be deconstructed and more of a paradox that has to be managed, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:37 PM
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I don’t think the part of them that dies isn’t the part that makes them gives them the ability to love deeply. I think the part of them that dies is the hope that they’ll ever actually get the opportunity to love deeply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 06:12 AM
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Not necessarily. I get what you’re saying, but you have to remember no one can control those feelings no matter how “red pilled” you are. And second, being deeply in love is going to mean something different to everyone. It’s subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:58 AM
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It’s not that red pill men can’t deeply love a woman, it’s that they believe a woman can never deeply love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:54 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:10 AM
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I think red pill is just amplified online. Online dating can really only be evolutionary as a result of only seeing pictures. This is just going to have to force men to get out and actually meet women in real life again. If you want to stay behind the screen than you’re gonna have to deal with the reality of online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:16 PM
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For mature men that’s exactly how it should be taken. Of course it’s always better to know than to be ignorant, but learning how to apply information is what makes it wisdom. For most men who’ve learned this, it’s just been the equivalent of taking a psych 101 class and thinking you’re a therapist. Sometimes a little information is more dangerous than none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 05:42 PM
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There’s a difference between hypergamy and character
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 05:18 PM
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What exactly can you do with that information? It’s just reinforced to already frustrated men that they won’t be chosen based off something they largely have no control of. And most men do take this information as a straight jacket. If every man looked the exact same there would still be reasons that a woman chose one man over another. Now you have all these men going into situations with women believing that if a man with a better jaw line than you wants your girl than it’s over. You’ve lost be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 05:17 PM
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Teaching men about hypergamy has done more damage than the damage men think hypergamy does to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 04:53 PM
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Like one of my friends doesn’t believe he’s attractive, so even if a girl likes him he doesn’t believe it. He always needs more “signs” and if a girl does anything that isn’t saying I’m obsessed with you he shuts down. One of my female friends is really pretty, but she’s selfish and narcissistic, so no matter how hot she is eventually it just gets too much for guys who aren’t thirsty. Her beauty isn’t enough to overcome the way she thinks about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 05:27 AM
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Mindset. It’s always mindset. I’ve never seen anyone who struggled with women or men that their mindset wasn’t the ultimate reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 05:17 AM
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I’ve never believed that this had any kind of basis. When you begin not to respect your partner, you’re not going to feel sexually attracted to them regardless if they help with the housework or not. On the other hand women have to take responsibility for the men they choose. A guy doesn’t suddenly become childish when you get married. He was like that the whole time you were dating and you just choose to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 10:27 PM
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Probably the tv show “Spartacus” that came on Starz(now on Netflix)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 12:26 AM
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This is actually a really good question. To me, the issue with TRP is that it’s just fundamentally incomplete. It breaks down our evolutionary nature really well, but we’re so much more than our evolutionary instincts. We have a human spirit, which is what separates us from animals. It’s like having 2 different operating systems running within us at the same time. This is why TRP can never and should never be an ideology for you because it only speaks to one element of you. We override our evolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 02:23 AM
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I think this is true, but not in the way we think. When women say nice they really mean “pleasing”. Pleasing behavior is unattractive because by nature it’s manipulative. It comes off as disingenuous. Nice is attractive when it’s genuine. A genuine nice guy is nice to everyone, but also won’t get stepped on. The energy difference between “pleasing” and “nice” is night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:35 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 03:00 AM
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Oh yeah women can absolutely be genuinely attracted to beta males and genuinely be in love with them. There’s too many of them for nature not to have evolved them to be able to do so. It’s just a different type of attraction. Men want to be responded to as alpha because they want that passionate validational response from women not realizing that eventually passion fades too. Alphas and betas each have to deal with good and bad over the long term just in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:20 PM
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Women can’t delude themselves into attraction because attraction isn’t a conscious choice. You’re either attracted to someone or you’re not. Alpha and Beta aren’t a demographic it’s a mindset. You can’t call someone a high beta just because they have a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:08 PM
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I don’t believe in high beta or low beta because a women isn’t going to respond to you that way. She’s only going to respond to you in a validational way if she sees you as an alpha. So, in that case high or low is really irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 07:25 PM
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Remember the far majority of men are “beta”. That’s the most common dynamic between men and women. It’s Alpha men that struggle with dating and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 07:17 PM
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