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Because women don't actually have feeling for men. "How can he be of use to me" is the opposite of a feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:43 PM
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gender equality Has nothing to do with feminism. So right from the outset you're lying to us and thus proving that feminism is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:46 PM
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Because women try to tear each other down. The women using that label see women having success in locking down men and so try to insult them back into line.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:45 PM
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I say that we've figure out their manipulation and shit-test here and it's not working anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:17 PM
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Taking their turns hooking up with the 7+ guys and whining about them not committing. You know, the "where are all the good men?!?!?" thing. This is why the female equivalent of the male incel isn't an incel it's an inspin (involuntary spinster).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:17 PM
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"Don't be wider than you are tall" is not an inflated standard. You don't have to be muscular, you don't have to have a perfect face, you don't have to be tall or short - we're good with either, you just have to not be fat and not make our lives more difficult than they would be without you. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:41 PM
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but when ask to be specific, they describe simply existing No, you just find them unattractive and so give them zero credit for things that you would find quite valuable in an attractive man. Or maybe you need to be specific (see what I did?) about which things you consider "simply existing".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:24 PM
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The point of making it mandatory is that it completely removes the ability of women to pressure men to not verify by melting down into a hysterical "don't you trust me" tirade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:22 PM
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heartless and cruel So are most women. That's kind of why redpill trains men to be that way. It's teaching them to match the heartlessness and cruelty they're up against.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:08 PM
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You have my condolences for your loss and my sympathy for being mistreated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:39 PM
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Right, all the 'nice guys' women refer to as being so toxic and actually evil are just nice but ugly lol. Yes. Those same behaviors in a good looking guy - and even far worse - are completely adored.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:38 PM
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And a multimillionaire with an otherwise sculpted body.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:25 PM
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loves were Past tense is sending some very strong counter-signals here. Unless you're a twice-over widow, in which case you have my condolences, it seems that there's an untold story here contradicting the message you're trying to send.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:17 PM
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They're even simpler than that. Hot - i.e. tall, muscular, and trim with strong facial features - equals good. Anything else equals bad. It's why women will happily stay with abusive men who hit that 7+ on the looks scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:16 PM
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The problem is that the movement that underpins the bloopies literally exists to tear down the old social programming. Blue pill is just one part of a much larger and much more insidious movement that has always had the goal of ripping down what the West used to have. Understand that and this all makes perfect - and quite depressing - sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:15 PM
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Have you considered what a woman should do if the men she can get a relationship from are simply unattractive to her? Lower her standards. Just like men are expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:29 PM
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It's always been about looks. The biggest lie told to at this point 3 generations of men was that women care about personality first and foremost. In reality all that "offensive" old content portraying women as insanely shallow was also completely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:29 PM
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If they're on 2x they're a 2 at best. That sub isn't populated by even average women. It's full of delusional hambeasts and hambeasts cap out at 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:23 PM
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6' and 6 pack abs. That's what women mean by "personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:15 PM
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Statistically this is untrue. Sure, every man will drool over 9s and 10s but they'll also happily pair up with 5s and 6s. The thing is that there are a lot of 2s and 3s who think they're 5s and 6s. Sorry ladies but if you weight more than him you're a 2 or 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:14 PM
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And it's because they've been told - falsely, and by women - that women prioritize personality highest. They don't. If she don't think you're hot your personality is wholly irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:56 PM
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No women are secure. Our forebears had it right: femininity is inherently neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:52 PM
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So basically women need drama. Which is 100% true, but something that they try to deny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:51 PM
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Because it's not. The "personality above all" claim is a societal-scale shit-test.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:50 PM
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No, women value looks more than men. Men have just been lied to for decades. That's one of the big problems today's men have is that they were raised on a falsehood that puts them way behind before they even get started.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:47 PM
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It's a proven fact. It's been studied. Women consider 70% of men below average. That's not how averages work so clearly they don't find the average man to be of average attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:45 PM
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Most people do date based on romantic feelings, and that's a huge part of why today's relationship landscape is such a fucking disaster area. For most of history romance was just a part - and often not even a predominant part - of relationships. People used to understand that a relationship was a partnership and so one needed to consider more than just tingles and sparks. Now this space is overly analytical, but that's also kind of the point. We're taking a step back and doing analysis on what's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:43 PM
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Why not? I'm not dating to find someone who is just a mirror of me with tits. What I want a woman to bring to the relationship has nothing to do with her income. The only one on that list that's an absolute no is the debt one because that indicates being wasteful with money which is a disqualifier for a long-term relationship. This is really one of the key things that feminists and bloopies get wrong. They think that providing what a man does makes a woman attractive to men. It doesn't because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:11 PM
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Simple: women and men are different. Women need their man to be superior to them in many ways including earnings. When he isn't superior to them she loses interest and desire. All claims to the contrary are lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:03 PM
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Which just proves that being nice to women is dumb. There is nothing they hate more than a guy who treats them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:54 PM
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This post is explicitly against sub rules. How in the hell has this user not been banned given how this is their standard operating procedure? Which mod is this an alt for?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:53 PM
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Unfortunately it's also a shit-test that has legal risks which IMO is why more and more men are just withdrawing and thus also where the WAATGM phenomenon comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:37 PM
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So, what is stopping men from becoming more masculine? The fact that every time they try society screams at them and worse. You're a bloopie, your ideology is one of the ones most responsible for this phenomenon. Mothers aren’t always correct when raising kids, they use lazy parenting strategies to get the kids to do what they want them to And this is why the "stronk indepedent wahmen don't need no man" shit and the open not just support but encouragement of single motherhood has been a societal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:23 PM
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Behaviors are how traits manifest so your argument is a non-argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:19 PM
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The traits I bolded in the OP are not inherently “toxic I agree, but our misandrist society does not. It labels all of those things as toxic. Remember: modern society defines any behavior that is not dedicated to being submissive to women and their wants and needs as toxic. The behaviors you describe fall into that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:04 PM
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The problem is that society has decided to define basic masculine traits as "toxic" - i.e. asshole - traits. So you're both right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:57 PM
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It's just a real-time example of who actually is responsible for "toxic masculinity". Women constantly attack men for daring to express any non-joy-joy emotions and then also attack them for keeping them inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:28 PM
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No, you're the one crying about fictional men and doing so on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:17 PM
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No, it's basic biology. You're just an edgelord nihilist who is still stuck in the teen years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:16 PM
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Which responsibilities? Paying debts, feeding themselves, cleaning, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:16 PM
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Who’s dehumanising? OP. Misandry is kind of their whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:15 PM
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They may transition out of young childhood earlier but they also generally don't transition past adolescence. So the "maturing faster" argument only applies to actual children and ceases to be true for adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:14 PM
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You're suppose to grow out of it and laugh at how stupid you were. When are you going to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:10 PM
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Also older men are further advanced in their careers and have more to offer women and their materialistic nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:32 PM
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Well and the bar to succeed has been raised so high that it's simply out of reach for a lot of them. Especially when all the hand-up and help stuff has "no (white) boys allowed" signs on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:54 PM
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Counterpoint: women may start earlier but they also stop before adulthood. That's why women today treat basic adulthood accountability and responsibility as oppression. That's also why we see them retreat to baby-talk to express themselves with things like the rise of using "the ick" to describe feelings of discomfort that they apparently can't actually articulate (and thus should not be treated as valid).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:51 PM
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Reproduction is quite literally the entire point of living for all living things. You just don't see it as an issue because you're in the privileged sex here in the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:44 PM
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You're talking about Disney from the 1930s, not Disney today.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:43 PM
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No, the women are older and single and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:42 PM
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Right, men are the immature ones. Not the sex that has been regressing into baby-talk with shit like "the ick" and all that. Or the sex who claims personal responsibility and accountability is oppression. This is just more misandrist twaddle from our resident rules-immune troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:41 PM
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Try reading whole threads before responding down at the bottom. Right because it's still 1985 and people are actually willing to talk to random strangers out in public and totally don't make themselves closed off. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:40 PM
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Must be nice. I had that, then COVID happened and we just kind of never got back together. And my story is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:40 PM
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Good advice isn't given in coded language. So it's bad advice and you're arguing against a point you agree with for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:30 PM
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but going out with friends and someone brings a friend you don't know Right, because it's still 1985 and people totally have big and ever-growing friend groups. Seriously, how out of touch are you? I get that being a bloopie requires a fair bit of ignorance but this is just jaw-dropping here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:29 PM
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Right because it's still 1985 and people are actually willing to talk to random strangers out in public and totally don't make themselves closed off. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:20 PM
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"May have been"? The internet and its consequences have been disastrous for the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:11 PM
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No, it's paranoia. You're seeing the boogeyman in every shadow but he's not really there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:19 PM
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If you haven't noticed most behavior that is normalized for women gets called insanely toxic and even abusive when men do it. Welcome to the matriarchy that we've been gaslit into thinking is a patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:38 PM
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Because you have developed paranoia as a result of hostile media brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:32 PM
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Neither of those things are true to any extent worth worrying about and the misperception they are is purely an invention of the hostile media.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:49 PM
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According to the blue pill and the political/sociologial ideology behind it: yes, and vice-versa. That's what the whole "women are no different from men and the sexes are equal" shit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:40 PM
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Blame drugs and booze and casual sex all you want, your aging is exclusively caused by genetics. Oh no, just look at the Olsen family. Compare the twins at Elizabeth's age to Elizabeth. The only difference is that the twins went hard into drugs and shit while Elizabeth didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:38 PM
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And niceness/not-assholeness isn't factored into attraction by women. So claiming it is is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:31 PM
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Except that picture isn't accurate. Women will gladly shack up with the guy with no good-guy attributes, it feeds their need for petty drama. Seen it over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:35 PM
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Women want men who are nice to them for relationships. But they don't. If they did they'd be using niceness do decide who to start dating in the first place. They don't. They use looks and arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:24 PM
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Scroll up. I've already addressed this. I don't fuck with this "pretend nothing prior to the previous comment exists" shit. Your bullshit got shredded and we're not starting over from scratch just because you want to gaslight that it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:05 PM
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Niceguys think that women want niceguys Because that's the lie women have been telling them their whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:04 PM
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You cannot be shallow and indiscriminate because shallow is discrimination on superficial things. That's why your argument is self-contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:02 PM
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No, it means less shallow. If they were more shallow they wouldn't just, as you dismissively put it, "take what they can get". Your argument contradicts itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:57 PM
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Because men like fucking hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:43 PM
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Because women do it far far more. Men are nowhere near as shallow as women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:35 PM
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Because it's not. You also have to be good looking. Assholes who aren't good looking are "creeps". If there is one and only one lesson to learn about women it's that they're even more shallow than the stereotypes from the old days portray them as. Women value looks above all else and second place is not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:29 PM
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No, it's just the label for Chad after the breakup. Ugly guys under 6' are just "creeps".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:28 PM
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Stats do show that women have mental problems at an insanely high rate. So maybe it is true, and maybe it's because women are just actually on the whole all nuts. Of course then we have to start asking questions about just how much autonomy they should be given due to the diminished capacity that comes with mental illness and then we're in a Chesteron's Fence situation because there was a time when this was all addressed and we for some reason changed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:25 PM
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Oh, it's the resident troll. That explains the hyper-inflammatory strawman. Flaming strawman if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:22 PM
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No it's not true for men. Men don't like it when other men are interested in their woman because women are prone to "grass is greener" thinking and swinging to the next branch. Your flair says bloopie which means you still believe in the debunked equality theory that says men and women are the same beyond irrelevant differences to body structure. We're not. Those differences in body structure are the visible manifestations of very deep differences between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:49 PM
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Of course not. Women lie, we all know this. But their behavior shows otherwise. Nothing's hotter to them than knowing other women want what she has because it implies she is higher tier than those other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:36 PM
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Men don't get "the ick" because unlike women men are forced to mentally mature past middle school. Seriously, this whole reverting to fucking baby talk as normal conversation that women are doing today is quite disgusting. You're grown women, not little kids. Act like it. Or admit that red pill is 100% correct in calling women the oldest teenagers in the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:41 PM
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i think maybe youre looking at that stuff too literally and or black and whitely That's how most men think. Men as a whole don't play the doublethink language fuckery games that women find natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:39 PM
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How do you know if you want to actually date this girl if you do not even know her ? That's what the first couple of dates are for. You go do something cheap where you can talk and find out whether you have anything in common or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:31 PM
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And that is wildly different than "you either get/have it or you don't". Yes, everyone has an upper limit on their ability to develop in any one thing. That doesn't mean that they can't get from their current undeveloped state to that limit. But shit "advice" like yours just tells them not to try. You ironically prove OP's point 100% right while trying to debunk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:23 PM
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Yes. Because you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:19 PM
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Also funny how nobody says that line to women. Women are notorious for every single thing you see of them - from their appearance to their conversation - being 100% thought and planned out. Yet for "some reason" that's not treated as being "deceptive" or "creepy".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:18 PM
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Women don’t have to do much to be hot apparently. They don't. That's one of the big imbalances between the sexes. For a woman to be hot she just has to not be fat. That's it. Be an appropriate weight for your height and you're a minimum 6/10 - i.e. above average. Compare that to men who have to be tall (which is immutable), be both an appropriate weight and have visible muscle, and of course meet the standards of a sex who studies have proved do not accurately rank attractiveness and view 80% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:50 PM
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Wat? Women have been told explicitly what defines "attractive" in any given era for centuries. They know exactly what to do. What y'all bitch about is having to actually execute and do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:48 PM
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It's not even platitudes, it's straight-up incorrect instructions. Platitudes would be one thing but when you're literally being told to do the opposite of what works it's a problem and creates very understandable resentment and anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:21 PM
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You feel them, you process them and you discard them. Except you're explicitly saying not to process them and just to discard them. That's why you're shaming people for expressing them even though expressing them is literally part of processing them. I get it, you don't like confronting the fact you're actually doing something bad. Well the reason people inform you when you are is so that you can stop. So stop pushing the toxic bullshit instead of doubling down on it. Then you don't have to feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:38 PM
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Because any man who is confident, mentally well adjusted and has at least his basic shit together isn't bothered or hurt by what any single woman does! Translation: for a men to be mentally well-adjusted they must repress negative emotions. Thank you for proving my point correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:21 PM
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No, they don't. Not in any statistically significant numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:27 PM
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Except that domestic labor wasn't "free", it was paid for by their partner literally paying for everything in their lives. Now that they work outside of the house and support themselves (supposedly, government aid numbers indicate otherwise) that domestic labor is actually free because they still have to do it but they aren't getting any compensation for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:26 PM
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Its about empathy. Why should any man have empathy for members of a movement built on having none for them? You get what you give and feminists give nothing but hate. I default to neutral until given cause to shift and that shift generally will be a reflection of that which caused me to stop being neutral. If it's positive I'll be positive. If it's negative then the only sane response is also negative. When feminists stop being hateful I'll stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:24 PM
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There's a reason that when there actually was a patriarchy society and civilization was moving forwards and now that it's been torn down we're moving backwards and at an ever-increasing rate. It turns out that society is also the result of evolution and it was a bad idea to tear down a fence without understanding why it had been put up in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:23 PM
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Huh? Speak English, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:20 PM
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That's not what they're talking about. Unequal power dynamic is not a synonym for oppressor/oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:19 PM
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That's what happens when someone realizes that the people he thought were acting in good faith weren't and actually were operating on pure hatred for him and those like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:18 PM
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And none of that has anything to do with the jump from platonic interactions to trying to get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:15 PM
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What they really mean is unattractive. The exact same behavior goes from "endaring" to "creepy" as the physical attractiveness of the one doing it decreases. Same as the difference between "weird" and "eccentric".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:13 PM
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No, but bloopies are left-wing and leftists have the appeal to authority fallacy as a core part of their ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:10 PM
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It's rare anyone gets called a creep to their face. But all the nonverbal indicators women give off when engaging with a man absolutely scream that she think he's a creep. I get that the misandrist blue-pill view is that men simply don't understand those things but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:09 PM
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The comment you're replying to is also a picture-perfect example of why men don't show emotions. They dared to show unhappiness at being mistreated (because ghosting is 100% mistreatment) and what happened? They were the ones being castigated for having a reaction to being mistreated while the ones doing the mistreatment were given a total pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:03 PM
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I'll never forget that woman who tried to live as a man for a year and had to go to inpatient psychiatric care before the year was even up because of just how poorly she found herself being treated and the negative impact it had on her mental health. And the treatment she detailed wasn't even abnormal treatment, it was just a completely average male experience. And plenty of FTMs also relate the same massive shift in treatment once they start presenting as a man. All of the niceness they were us…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:01 PM
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And here we see the exact reason men engage in the so-called "toxic" behavior of not expressing their feelings. All it gets them is shamed. Note how the person who actually did a shitty thing - the woman - is given a pass yet the man who has a negative reaction to being the victim of a shitty thing is given all the blam. Is it any wonder men are disengaging from a society that views such treatment as acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:59 PM
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I will never in my life understand how an average man can feel physically threatened by an unarmed woman. Well for one if you defend yourself against her you have the entire weight of the state being leveled against you. You know, that entity with the monopoly on violence that can lock you away or simply execute you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:50 PM
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I already said. But you're a bad-faith tourist given your shit engagement so you can fuck off now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:48 PM
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No it's not. Experiments have been done that have proved this. Women will flock to men who do - or at least appear to have done - the most despicable things if they're hot enough. If they're not they can't even say "hi" without being labeled a creep. Same goes for women. It's just that the list of what makes women unattractive is really short: it's weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:46 PM
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Same thing that makes a man cReEpY: being unattractive. Which for women really just means being fat. Sorry ladies, truth is truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:42 PM
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That would require women in general to stop being hateful towards men. Considering that's their default setting and has been for pretty much all time I'm going to guess it's hard-wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:38 PM
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Get to know people abit before you ask them out. Why? So you and those like you can then shame him for being "that guy" who tries to date his friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:03 AM
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And psychology is a notoriously bullshit-filled field. So why the hell should we believe a word they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:54 PM
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No, it's called experience and maturity. /u/Appropriate-Ad-8030 specifically said that prior times feeling those feelings had taught him how to deal with situations that caused similar feeling in his later years. What you basically just did here is admitted that women never actually mature which is a total concession of one of the core red pill concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:47 PM
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I wouldn't say I was particularly raised to talk or not talk about my feelings. Most of us weren't. That's a line of bullshit spread by people who don't like how men express emotion and want to shame them for not doing it like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:45 PM
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Humans are not exempt from evolution and the claim to the contrary is pure science denialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:41 PM
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Because they all are to some degree. If she's willing to give me what I want in exchange for money then fine. Really gold diggers are the most honest women because they admit to just being in it for the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:11 PM
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It's well known that women do our hair, nails, makeup, shave, wear sexy lingerie, show skin in a sexy outfit, put on high heels, etc FOR OURSELVES. No you don't. Because all of those things are only sexy because that's what men as a whole find desirable. You wouldn't do a single one of those things if men didn't find them attractive. The entire concept of what is and is not sexy is rooted in the opposite sex so your premise is at its core bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:44 PM
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Flirting isn't "prosecutable" If she cries sexual harassment it is. And since the bar for that is "she said she felt harassed" it absolutely is prosecutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:25 PM
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you some men call women sluts for approaching This doesn't happen. This hasn't been a thing for 30 years and more. As usual the feminist is living in the past and raging against enemies that fell long before any of us here were even old enough to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:46 PM
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How about be fucking open with your intent. Find a guy interesting? Actually give a strong signal. Or actually tell him. Don't just hide behind indicators so minute that they can't be differentiated from basic politeness just because your ego can't handle a guy you're interested in not reciprocating a clear signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:40 PM
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Why do you think there's a crashing rate of relationships and an increase in antipathy between the sexes? Especially when you combine this with our gynocentric society making flirting when unwanted a literal prosecutable and fireable offense. Which of course then leads women to whine about men avoiding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:37 PM
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Awww, given up on defending your delusional argument already? Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:27 PM
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Not on the facts. There's a reason they judge-shopped into a district that absolutely hates him personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:23 PM
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Translation: you can't and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:23 PM
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And you think this is extreme? Yes. It's pure delusion and paranoia. And it's fucking insulting. Those women are literally calling him a violent psychopath with literally zero evidence. That's insanity. As in those women need inpatient help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:22 PM
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It means buying into the false narrative spread by misandrist feminists (a venn diagram which is a circle) that all men are dangerous and a threat. It means letting that create a level of paranoia that results in seeing things that aren't there and always assuming the absolute worst from every man around with zero actual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:21 PM
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Let's be clear, the reddit "nice guy" terminology / meme is someone who thinks doing a favor forms an unspoken contract in which they are owed sex like some kind of porn plot. Because ... that's what men were raised to believe. And it was feminists who raised them to think that. That's why there's anger. Being angry is a perfectly reasonable response to being lied to. Then there are the blue pill actual nice guys who think you just have to be a good person and women will be attracted to that. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:03 PM
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And if you don't it doesn't matter how good your personality is you're going to be ignored and branded a creep if you try to get noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:00 PM
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Except not all men go bald. Both of my grandpas died in their 80s with full heads of hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:55 PM
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I swear apex fallacy is just how women are hardwired to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:08 PM
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Yes. In fact they're far more likely to be loyal than women. You're just lost in the misandrist hate sites and projecting those - often fictional - stories onto all men. But you have to go to the internet to find those stories whereas men just have to talk to each other to find stories of betrayal. We could have no internet and most men would hear firsthand accounts of disloyalty from women and have their own to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:08 PM
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The story of the garden of Eden is less that women are evil and more that they are easily led astray. And, well, modern society kind of reinforces that lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:06 PM
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with fatalism becoming the mood of the day The long term effects will be driven by this. Expect more disengagement from serious relationships as men just stop trusting women and thus want to keep them at arm's length. This will exacerbate the existing decline in birthrates and will also lead to the decline in women's happiness - that ironically tracks with society giving them more and more of what they want - getting worse and worse. This will lead to the trend of increasing societal instability…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:19 PM
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You're still missing my point. My point is that what they are choosing to wear is determined by male attention. Yes, women will also show off like that to other women in order to establish a pecking order based on who is most attractive to men. Their competition is still rooted wholly in what men find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:25 PM
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My point is that it's not possible to separate the two concepts because hot and attractive is a direct product of what males give validation for. If men change what they define as hot and attractive then so, too, will women change how they dress when they want to feel sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:11 PM
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It’s less so for “male validation” but moreso just to feel hot and attractive. Which ... is the result of male validation/attention. If men didn't give attention to women in those outfits they wouldn't be viewed as sexy. Thus it's still all about male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:12 PM
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Yup. And ironically they reinforce one of their most-hated stereotypes: that women live for drama and gossip and prefer it to more important/high-concept discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:41 PM
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Is that subreddit the new TwoX or what? It's not so much "new" as "has always been completely overrun by inspins". The disgusting sexism in that sub has been known about for years and years. Hell you can rack up decent karma by simply calling it out. Of course you can also lose a lot by doing that. You have to get the timing just right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:40 PM
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See he reacted to being called an abuser at heart by his wife with something other than meek agreement and groveling and so according to toxic users like that one that means he's irredeemably evil. He was totally not just having a completely understandable reaction to being called a domestic abuser with zero actual justification. Nope, no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:36 PM
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His comments were angry because his wife had basically said he was an abuser at heart. I think anger is OK right there. You're just doing that toxic thing where you call a man expressing any emotion that isn't happiness evil and that just renders your opinion completely devoid of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:34 PM
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If she's that easily influenced against her husband doesn't that indicate that he shouldn't trust her and should leave her? Why be with someone who distrusts you to the point of just assuming you'll do a total 180 to become an abuser based on just some idiot comments online?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:30 PM
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Because society give them the power to. That's really it. They're allowed to get away with it so they do it. Welcome to the matriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:28 PM
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It's about feeling desired beyond reason. A man who is high value but possessive and controlling isn't viewed as "clingy", "clingy" is reserved for low value men who are possessive and controlling. Yes it's a double standard. Double standards are the only standards women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:20 PM
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If you are high value then why would you want to be with someone like that? Your value should lead you to a man that isn’t any of those things. Because the dirty secret is that most women want a man who is and does those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:13 PM
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Try not to focus on what women say they want and what men say works. Focus on what you want and what works for you The latter requires doing the former. If you aren't offering what the people you want want you aren't going to get that. That means you have to focus on what women say (by showing, not speaking) attracts them. Your advice boils down to the flatly-disproved "just be yourself" shit that's a huge cause of today's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:11 PM
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When we started raising kids to believe they deserved the world handed to them on a silver platter instead of only deserving what they had worked to earn. So some time in the 80s I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:06 PM
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"Just be yourself" is the classic one. It's about the worst advice you can give someone. "Looks aren't important" is another. No, looks are everything. If you can't pass the looks filter you can't highlight literally any other aspect of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:24 PM
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Correction: If you're Senior or Staff/Principal and have and can demonstrate in interviews the skills and knowledge to back the title the market is fine. People who got over-inflated titles and salaries are the ones getting a hard slap of reality right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:35 PM
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Tech is trimming back and the bar for getting hired is going up. A lot of marginal mid-level and lower devs who were getting fat paychecks and often over-titled are now having their worth reevaluated down to their actual level of contribution. If you're good - not a "rockstar" since that's usually more flash and trend-chasing than actual skill - you'll do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:33 PM
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Blue Pill doesn't believe any one thing, just that TRP is wrong. Oh bloopies have a concrete ideology, it's just a pathetic one. They believe women are inherently wonderful and incapable of wrongdoing. It's quite sad and quite delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:31 PM
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The difference between the two is that RPers view the world as having already wholly and irreversibly changed in a way that is incompatible with tradcon thinking. Tradcons don't, they think that the old and better ways can be clawed back. That's the main divide.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:31 PM
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Because rational self-interest. The problem isn't women doing that, the problem is men not doing it to women. A huge part of the red pill is dropping this "women are wonderful" illusion and understanding that just like men women are out for their own benefit and aren't these beneficent self-sacrificing creatures society has gaslit us into thinking they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:06 PM
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It basically only works for the most extreme of situations to get a man to back off the edge (literally). For anything beyond that men need action, not sitting on a couch bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:25 PM
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Men don't benefit from talk therapy because men are wired for action, not idle bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:23 PM
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Because we want complementary energy. We already bring the "go to work, bring in money, have way too little time to take care of the house" energy to the relationship so what, exactly, does a woman who brings that same energy really bring us? At that point the only thing she brings is, well, wet holes. Which might explain why that's all so many men see women as now. That's the only thing they have to offer that we can't provide for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 03:12 PM
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Yes. You have to do a third of the work and you're whining. Nobody's saying you aren't allowed to do those other things but they're optional and for your own enjoyment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:52 PM
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"the ick" I really don't like that phrase It's because it sounds like something a first-grader would say. The fact it's so popular with (supposedly) adult women today just reinforces the red pill idea that women don't actually mentally mature to become fully actualized adults at any point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:12 PM
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You can notice that guys who grow up unattractive and then glow up still cant get women because their whole life their presence was treated like a burden Get out of my head. I've lost so much weight, put so much work into my clothing and my grooming and all aspects of looks but when I look in the mirror all I see is the unkempt fat fuck I was raised to be. Even when I'm out in public and get positive responses from people - like simply smiles from women instead of stoneface - I still can't inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:07 PM
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Because the vast majority of you have decided to just say fuck it to developing a pleasant personality and so men's options are just deal with the bitchiness or be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:05 PM
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How is it the opposite? It means you don't need to put in the work to developing both your body and personality, you just need to develop one of them. Plus since men are plenty happy to date down economically you don't even have to put in the work in your career that a man does. So you have to do a third of the work of a man and yet you're acting like you're being oppressed for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:03 PM
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Just looking at the cream of the crop we can see tale after tale of those men getting with and marrying absolutely horrid women. And this holds true all the way down the ladder. The good looking director-level corporate man married to a horrible woman is literally a media trope because it's so common. I'm pretty sure marriage is the definition of romantic success.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:02 PM
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And that's why I honestly didn't enjoy the holidays this year. I come from a food-pusher family and it was basically impossible to stay on track without being insanely rude. And of course when I try to explain what's going on it's just all the same harmful "oh you look great!" bullshit that had me starting out life with a massive block of lard chained to my body before I even hit adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:53 PM
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Gangbangers don't follow gun laws. Most are prohibited persons already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:09 PM
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I mean even in modest lower middle class communities, the parks aren’t exactly safe. So stop voting for the party that lets them be unsafe. Women are the ones who put that party into power. Stop it. Or stop complaining about the issues your votes cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:31 PM
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I get that in your lily-white rich ivory tower you think that everything outside of it is the ghetto but there's a huge range between the two and the ghetto is a very small part of the country and we don't need to make the rules for everyone based on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:28 PM
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and we are suspicious of any male-only gatherings This is the bigger problem. Men have no men-only third spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:25 PM
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What does "childish" mean here? Is it blowing money on fun shit and making having an enjoyable life a high priority? Because I do that. I also pay all my bills and have a solid career that I'm continuously advancing in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:58 PM
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It's because it's now considered a faux-pas to hit on members of your friend group due to people's fears for the results of a breakup. This, along with so many of the problems in dating today, is a rather recent state of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:58 PM
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As far as I'm concerned women pulling that are just getting caught by my "no gold-diggers" filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:54 PM
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Oh, so you have nothing of value to say here. You're just a bitter misandrist. Well, that is typical of feminists. And enjoy both the lesbian bed death and insane DV rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:19 PM
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Well yeah. Just look at how women react when men don't lie and cover up their emotions. Showing vulnerability to a woman is the fastest way to make her dry up and blow away so as a man you absolutely must lie and always show a strong facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:17 PM
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I'm recognizing their deeper selves which is the opposite of shallow. I believe most people are interesting if you get to know them My experience is not this. Few people are actually interesting or do interesting things and IME the ratio of men to women who are interesting leans very heavily in men's favor. But what women find interesting I often simply don't. I find it usually boring. And that's a very common view. That's why so many men find tomboys - i.e. women who have masculine interest whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:03 PM
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Honestly I think it's more that the West allows them to act on those impulses instead of suppressing them. Also don't you feel like you're kinda straight up demonizing women for their needs I'm demonizing them and society for the hypocrisy. A healthy society would recognize both sexes' needs and train the opposite sex accordingly. The West doesn't and you get the complete clusterfuck you're seeing from your outside position.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:00 PM
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Having moved recently myself I can relay the sad truth that for social interactions the same two rules apply as they do for relationships: do be attractive and don't be unattractive. And the more weight I lose the easier time I have both generally socializing and flirting. My #1 tip for losing weight: crockpot. You can make a week's worth of dinners in under a half an hour of effort and then a few hours of letting it run while you do other shit. Then just cut the dining out to maybe one or two m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:37 PM
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That they're insanely shallow and materialistic and if you don't internalize that and adjust your body and your life accordingly they won't give two shits about your personality and you'll remain alone. That's just one of them, and the most important point since it's the barrier to even starting a relationship. And of course that shallowness and materialism also means you can never slip up. You can't lose looks, you can't stumble in your career, and god forbid you ever look emotionally weak. Any…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:27 PM
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The fact that everything they said matched observable reality. It's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:20 PM
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No, that's what women claim they want but what they actually want and view as a real man is the exact opposite of that. A real man, as evidenced by the kind of men women actually go for, is one who basically doesn't give a shit about their demands and isn't even remotely controllable. They want a man who breaks the rules and forces women to follow their rules instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:57 PM
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Men willing, absolutely. Women leaving men they out-earn is a very well documented phenomenon. The reason you don't see more house husbands is because women lose attraction when it is tried and wind up divorcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:31 PM
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This is 100% pure apex fallacy. You are looking at the top .0001% of men, the ones who are basically modern royalty, and assuming all men are like them. You know the whole "power corrupts" concept? Yeah, that's what you're seeing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:05 PM
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I've definitely noticed an uptick in sociable behavior but in my case I also moved to a much more sociable part of the country and lost a solid 20 pounds so I can't draw any conclusions based on recent observations because in my case there are too many possible variables. But I wouldn't be surprised if your observation is correct. Women got what they thought they wanted with PoundMeToo and men just backed right the fuck off. Of course with women being the far more socially needy sex the conseque…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 09:23 PM
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My point is that there is no such thing because of the fact that what women deem high-value and what is defined as "good" are mutually exclusive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:39 PM
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And then complain when those top 3 finishers pick the youngest option with the least baggage instead of their age-match.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:38 PM
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And women aren't boring? How many women actually have real hobbies that aren't consuming media or just getting drunk? I'm involved in a few different hobbies that require exerting effort and actually doing shit and the ratio of men to women in all of them boils down to "sausage fest". No, what you mean is that men aren't willing to play court jester for women. Well that's not our job. I know no men who wouldn't happily share their hobbies with a girlfriend or wife. But sharing a hobby means she …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:36 PM
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No. There's a lack of good men who are willing to be the option of last resort for the kind of women who write and contribute to articles like that. Good men want good women, good women don't spend their prime years doing bad shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:34 PM
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But you guys feel like you shouldnt have too. Not quite. We resent that what we were told - most often by the women around us - would make us be more appealing was actually exactly the opposite of what would work. The anger is at being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:29 PM
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The problem is that what women view as high-value traits are the opposite of what you define as a good man. What you define as a "good man" is what women deride as a "nice guy" and, well, we see exactly what women think about them every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:24 PM
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Personally, I think she got pumped and dumped by a hot Chad and is bitter towards men. Oh she's an industry celebrity so what she got was far worse. She got Weinsteined. Probably repeatedly. But since she's a woman she refuses to take accountability for her choice to trade sexual favors for fame and fortune and instead views herself as the victim of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:30 PM
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them women I know who fight train are all very feminine too which is...interesting It's probably in no small part rooted in having a very clear understanding of the differences between men and women thanks to seeing the differences up close in training. It's hard to maintain the "there are no differences" delusion in an environment like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:05 PM
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Could it not be that these places died organically? No. Claiming this is proof that you are uneducated on the last 50-odd years of history in this area. Hell for a recent example just look at the forced coedification of the Boy Scouts - something done even though the Girls Scouts already existed. There has been a concentrated effort by highly destructive people and ideologies to strip men and boys of places where they can be around each other with no women or girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:04 PM
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Machismo is how men relate to each other. That's why the demonization of it and it being made verboten in society has tracked with the collapse of male friendships. And it's not a "fear" of appearing gay that's involved here at all. It's that if you're not gay there's no men-only space to go to and if you're not gay you're not wanted in the gay spaces. Thus straight men are isolated from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:02 PM
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If women aren't capable of making this decision at 18 why are we letting them make any other adult decisions at 18? Including why are we letting them vote? So that's the counter-argument: women at 18 are grown-ups just like men at 18 unless you're arguing that we should raise the age of adulthood overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:53 PM
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I would be divorcing her ass because that's abusive behavior right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:33 PM
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It's not "because of tRaUmA", it's because the women who make that complaint have made a string of bad decisions in life and no good man will touch them with a 10 foot pole. There's a reason that phrase is primarily the rallying cry of the never-married single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:24 PM
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Why is every discussion just about who can be seen as a victim more? Because thanks to the work of cultural marxists victimhood is now social power. If you can portray yourself as the oppressed class you can claim moral superiority and by extension make your opposition immoral at their core.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:59 PM
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The men who want that are literally just asking for what WOMEN have told them they should want. It is about as reasonable of an ask as it gets if you still think that women are capable of honesty. For you to argue it isn't reasonable is to argue that men should just always assume women are lying. Which, if we're being honest, is the correct assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:57 PM
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Women, no doubt. That's why the vast majority of women still want a guy who is built like a protector and earns like a provider. It's also why it's so common for women who out-earn a male partner to wind up leaving them or cheating on them. Men, on the other hand, have preferences all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:44 PM
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Never heard of this and after reading briefly about it, I still have no idea why it means. I will read more about it. The short version is that the model automatically assumes the man is the aggressor in domestic disputes and violence. That's laughably false but feminists pushed hard to get it implemented. I don't understand why no-fault divorce is bad. It's not. What's bad is letting someone walk away with cash and prizes - i.e. alimony and asset split - afterwards. If you just want out because…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:15 PM
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Why do you lefties always hide behind academic jargon to obfuscate your arguments? Are you really that afraid of honest answers? Just come out and ask your questions in plain English if you don't fear what you might hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:31 PM
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Okay, please give me examples of policies feminism wanted to install/change that were all about having more privilege then men or only privilege and no responsibility. Duluth Model No-fault divorce with alimony Abortion without paper abortion for men There's 3 just off the top of my head. Now, being that your from Eastern Europe and thus don't live in a country that is in late-stage feminism I now understand why you don't see these things since Eastern European countries haven't been subverted a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:20 PM
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I would joke about the fuckboy dating manual, only for it to turn out that there very much is a fuckboy dating manual in the form of RP. And? Not like women don't also have dating manuals. Our society is just caters to women so much that yours get to be published in magazines put in every store and put on mainstream websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:31 PM
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Subversives working to tear down the family structure. That's really it. There's an active effort to undermine the traditional family and now they've moved on to literally trying to erase the concept from language and thus thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:03 PM
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And now the gaslighting adds in the no true scotsman fallacy. No, you're lying, that's not what feminism is about. We have decades of feminist activity, advocacy, and policy to look at to see you're wrong. If it was just the radicals doing that shit and the rest of them didn't happily march behind them supporting them that stuff wouldn't've happened. It did, you're wrong, stop lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 02:54 PM
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^ And here is more gaslighting as is typical of feminists. This is the exact opposite of what feminists fight for because all feminists seek is equal privileges but with none of the responsibilities or expectations of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:40 PM
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Don't forget the more indirect deaths of despair numbers, either. What's an OD or a death by alcoholism but a slow-speed suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 09:29 PM
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Simple: men were never allowed to stop being trad husbands. Men who opted not to fill that role generally don't wind up getting married because women don't want non-traditional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:44 PM
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No, it's a real problem. What you're observing is the feminist establishment trying to gaslight men into not realizing that the cause of it is feminism and the misandry that's been driving it for half a century and more. Feminists know that if men wise up as a whole and step away from the feminist narrative that feminism's power - and thus their power - ends because a whole lot of women will follow men because women are inherently followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 04:21 PM
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And I'm saying those complexities don't exist anymore. They're relics of a bygone age and not applicable to the modern social landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:07 PM
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There is a lot of outside etiquette to consider here Why? Those etiquette rules date back to a different time with different social standards. Ladies, you're the ones who fought so hard to end those standards. You don't get to expect to be treated according to them now. So just get those old rules of etiquette out of your heads because they're for a world that at your own request has been ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:32 PM
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There has literally been a loosening of what qualifies as sexual harassment so your argument about policy is wrong. Sexual harassment has had the legal consequences greatly enhanced so your argument about legality is also wrong. Combine those and your "no consequences" argument is thus also proven wrong as well. 0 for 3, that's impressive. Of course you may well be knowingly lying, gaslighting is a common tactic used to defend such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:26 PM
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The Boomers grew up in the first car-dependent suburbs and they socialized just fine. Gen X were famously the latchkey generation in their suburbs and they were fine. So the averageredditor obsession with ultra-dense concrete jungles is clearly not related here. Now helicopter parenting and stranger-danger hysteria? That's no small part of it. Can't really be a latchkey kid when society is too neurotic to let kids roam about wildly in their off time. And of course the rise of the internet and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:15 PM
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Truth is in people's actions and behavior, not their words or the words other people say about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:19 PM
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Well it's why anything more expensive than a coffee is off-limits for early dates. Besides, I'm an active person. I want her to be active, too. So if she rejects my offer of an active date and tries to pivot to a free meal she's just disqualified herself and thus played herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:18 PM
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But it's not an explanation. That's the problem. The explanation is the "why" behind those statements whether the short or long.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:14 PM
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Who says he's "fucking it up"? It sounds like he's living the life he wants and that so many of us dream of: a never-ending rotation of 9s and 10s at his beck and call without any of the difficulties that actual relationships bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:09 PM
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It's classic "baffle them with bullshit" and "plausible deniability". Wrap a simple meaning up in an excessive amount of $5+ words instead of speaking plainly and you can both talk around people and claim to have not said what people who can understand you know you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:07 PM
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Using an excessive amount of words to obfuscate the true message being sent isn't being more articulate, it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:06 PM
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The issue is both trying to "head it off" in circumstances that are obviously not flirting which is what the meme is about and the fact that women tend to be pretty nasty about it when they do do it. No, being expected to be polite while clarifying relationship status isn't oppression. Nor is it misogyny. It's just basic politeness. Which, I'll admit, is something Millennial and Zoomer women have been quite aggressively taught is bad but, well, if your male peers are expected to break free from …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:43 PM
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Since I don't rely on others to entertain me like they're my pet dancing monkeys I really don't care if they want to be boring in their own time as long as they don't try to force me to be boring, too. So boring is fine but boring and clingy is not unless that clinginess manifests as just following me while I do shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:26 PM
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Women can’t really help if they get hit on. Reciprocating is 100% their choice. And no, the paranoid delusion that it's physically dangerous is bullshit so miss me with that lame excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:24 PM
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Do you know many other women? That's a very common sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:23 PM
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Define "evidence" for us, first. Because based on your own well-documented behavior in this sub I can guarantee that no matter what gets presented you'll just either ignore it or call it cReEpY no matter what it is. So that's my counter-argument: women aren't acting in good faith and you're a shining example of that exact problem so no amount of evidence would change things at all because it's not about facts, it's about misandrist hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:19 PM
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And that's why you just lie and say you don't care. You get to have fun and she doesn't know that she's already failed the serious relationship test.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:18 PM
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TRP and the manosphere gives everything that men do a bad rep because there are some very vocal, toxic people that are at it's forefront. Except it has nothing to do with the toxic people. Feminism has been fronted by the most viciously toxic people for over 100 years and it's only now getting a bad rep. So it's clearly not about toxicity, it's about the fact it's men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:09 PM
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No. What gives them that rep is bitter older women seeing men they were raised to believe they were entitled to leaving them behind. Women - especially Millennial and Zoomer women - were raised to believe that there would be a plethora of stable, high-earning, obedient family-ready men waiting for them when they finally aged out of being party girls. When they reach that age and see those men dating down (or just fucking off out of the game altogether) they get upset. Since our entire society is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:08 PM
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And the number of n-count discussions on this sub indicate that modern men still expect their female partners to be, if not chaste, then at least less promiscuous than they are. Sounds pretty traditional. Counterpoint: this sub is an extreme outlier. It's active for a small sub but it's a very low-pop sub in the grand scheme of things. So yes, the men who do still want traditional role do still exist but we're a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:21 PM
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It's almost like humans are living things and like all living things are subject to evolution. But of course that's the most forbidden subject in the modern world so we can't even begin to discuss the possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:18 PM
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Not quite. We've raised a (couple of) generation(s) of progressive males and a (couple of) generation(s) of ENTITLED women. Women don't want the traditional role. They want the benefits of the traditional role - i.e. being courted, being paid for, being basically worshiped - but with none of the responsibilities that came with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:17 PM
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They are and it does. And it's ironically that older generation who taught us that. They're the ones who melted down about "stranger danger" and raised us to fear the world. They're the ones who pushed the policies and teachings that have led us to fear reprisal as a creep and harasser for daring to speak to a stranger. And that's why so many of us hate the Boomers. They've created this world that they then heap hate on us for daring to both adapt to and hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 08:00 PM
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It's not the same though. No, it is. It's still coercion under threat of force to get you to do what you wouldn't do voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:22 PM
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No one is trying to chit chat This more than anything else is the problem. We're multiple generations now into "stranger danger" brainwashing and have added onto that this batshit insane idea that simply being talked to by a stranger is harassment - sexual harassment if they're the opposite sex or gender presentation. Everyone's been taught to just not talk to others lest they be a creepy harasser and then we wonder why everyone's so fucking isolated and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:19 PM
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This is true. Long-term partners were usually found at church, or at work. Of course there's been an active effort stretching back to the 60s to crush church attendance and it's worked rather well. And thanks to about 20 years of concentrated effort if you flirt at work and it doesn't land - and you can't know if it'll land until you do it - you're staring down a trip to HR and then out the door. Now the big question is: who has been pushing all this stuff? Answering that is a question for the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:06 PM
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We need to tear down this entire insane culture we’ve been building since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Praise be Uncle Ted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:04 PM
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It's the end result of a long process of destruction that includes a healthy dose of narcissistic entitlement. You have to remember that there has been a deliberate effort to tear down Western social institutions and now you're seeing the final result which is the collapse of the foundation of Western society - relationships. Relationships are the foundation from which all society grows.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:03 PM
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There is no pill for that It's called heroin and, well, there's a reason so many young men are giving their lives up to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:00 PM
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And then everyone wonders why radicalization is increasing among young white males.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:58 PM
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Go easy on? Try actively encourage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:23 PM
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This argument falls down immediately because it requires another living, breathing person with their own wants and needs to compromise on those values. So how is that different from, say, welfare? That requires a living, breathing person with their own wants and needs to pay for someone else instead of investing the fruits of their labor into their own lives. See this is the thing: equity ideology as a whole is oppressive. When you strip away the emotional language it comes down to forcing those…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:22 PM
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Well that would essentially mean forcing someone into some kind of sex slavery, assigning them to a relationship they don't want just to keep someone else happy. How is that a viable option? That's the dirty secret of equity ideology. It requires forcing people to do things they don't want to for people they don't want to. Funny how it's usually women pushing it right up until we get to somewhere where it would have a negative impact on women...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:20 PM
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No, men should simply not engage in serious relationships because clearly modern women don't take them seriously as proven conclusively by your entire argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:39 PM
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Men won’t continue seeing you if you have a bad attitude and are, for lack of a better word, very bitchy. But not being fat removes a very large barrier to men seeing you as attractive. Basically it means you get that first date that lets you sell yourself on your personality. Which proves once and for all that the "personality above all" advice that gets given to both young man and fat girls (because I am well aware that girls who are fat while young get told this same shit) is so wrong as to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:38 PM
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What do you expect? OP's one of the most notorious and flagrant trolls on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:41 PM
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Well I want to see a unicorn but it turns out it's really damned hard to see things that don't exist and never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:23 PM
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Not all POVs are valid. No, I'm not interested in entertaining the POV of a bad person complaining that they did something bad and it didn't work out like they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:22 PM
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See this right here is the kind of shit that drives so much of the modern distaste towards women. You sent out clear signals of interest and are now acting like you're the victim when you got appropriate reciprocation. You're not the victim. You were never the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:14 PM
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Speaking about "feminine" and "masculine" energy makes me cringe. Cringe all you want but that doesn't change reality. It just shows that you're unable to confront reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:18 PM
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No more processed garbage. To undo the damage one must build their diet based on real whole ingredients. We're talking buying raw meats and veggies and starches and actually cooking them at home. Cut out the HFCS and the seed oils and the soy derivatives in fucking everything. And yes, this means none of that bullshit fake "meat" that is being pushed so hard by the powers that be. Want to be vegetarian or vegan? Beans. All the beans. Not soy shit. The other part is men are too sedentary. You hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:18 PM
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Smart women - which I consider myself a part of Which means you're not. One: actual smart people don't brag about their intellect. Two: smart people don't write the grammatical abomination that you wrote there. And to your larger point: this is just a paranoid delusion fueled by unchecked ego and neuroticism. There's a reason stories about what you think happens all the time get turned into TV specials and it's because they're so far out of the ordinary that people find them compelling to watch.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:12 PM
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The only effect it really has is that men expect more effort in the bedroom. No, just taking off your clothes and laying there won't be enough to get him hard. You have to actually be an active participant. But if you are an active participant the vast majority of men will respond plenty positively so long as he finds you attractive at all. And given the wide variety of women's bodies in porn there exist men who find you attractive. And on the subject of bodies in porn compare the sheer variety …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:09 PM
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What it actually affects is men's standards for behavior in the bedroom. Women can't just expect him to get rock hard from flashing some nipple and starfishing out, now they have to actually at least pretend to be an active partner. And as posts like this exemplify oh how they howl at being expected to put in some effort in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:06 PM
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So you don't think men deserve happiness. You think we exist solely to serve others and facilitate others' happiness. Yeah, that's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:55 PM
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Not really. Not if you think people deserve happiness and aren't just cogs in the machine of society. And if that's really how our mothers viewed us then that really makes the concept of motherly love sound like a big ol' lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:29 PM
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Have you not gone through any form of corporate HR training in the last 10 years? Or read any of the laws passed about this stuff? Because you're simply spreading disinformation here and the facts should be enough to change your view if you were actually open to having it changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:23 PM
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Specifically ever since the rise of single motherhood and broken homes boys haven't had fathers around to teach them. The red pill arose to compensate for that so that future generations of boys and men wouldn't have to go through what the ones who created it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:18 PM
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But most of us were never told that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:14 PM
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Why are you asking the exact same fucking question you asked yesterday as if you didn't get inundated with answers to it? This is basically proof positive that you are a troll because this is called sealioning. Anyway, here's the answer I gave you yesterday quoted verbatim and linked from here: Who told men “hey, if you pretend to be nice to women, they’ll fuck you as a thank you”? School, television, movies, books, teachers, relatives, you name it. Play ignorant if you want but just know that n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:13 PM
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The cold approach sucks coz you know nothing about the dude except he thinks you're hot. So talk to him. Find out if he's interested in learning about you or just views you like a piece of meat. You're a big girl, you can use your words. You're far too old to just want to hide behind mommy's skirt. And the dating apps suck coz men just swipe right on everyone, don't fill out their bio, or read your bio. Blame women. They're the ones who are so unlikely to respond that targeted swiping is a waste…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:21 PM
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There's a reason the US has a growing movement of men looking to leave the country to find women. And no, it's not about time. It's about the fact that our country and legal system is so gynocentric that it's a straight-up risk to try to approach if you're not a 9+
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:19 PM
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You have to let it slide brother. Why? Women don't. Why are men held to higher standards than women? Are you saying women are inferior and can't be held to men's standards? If that's true then shouldn't we be completely reversing all of the last century's worth of changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:19 PM
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IME once you learn to cook and get used to well-made real foods it stops tasting good. The thing is that for a lot of us we were either raised on it or raised on the postwar recipes that created the modern perception of western nations not knowing how to season food. But break away from that, learn how to cook and how to season, and so much of that factory-produced slop just tastes terrible compared to what you make at home. And I'm not even talking about high-effort meals. Tons of easy and fast…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 08:13 PM
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As a child? Yes. Because my parents, for all their many flaws, at least got that part right. But even stuff beyond that still spread that message. Just look at how it was always "the nice guy gets the girl at the end" in movies aimed at teens and young adults. That just further built on the propaganda started in children's media.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:53 PM
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Bingo. Looks starts a relationship and personality is what determines whether it lasts. But if you can't start it it can't even get to the "will it last" stage and that's why looks is the more important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:44 PM
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Because they do. You can be the most polite and well-mannered guy in the world or the sweetest and most pleasant woman in the world and if you're fat you're going to really struggle to date. This is simply observable reality. Hell even couples where both members are fat often started back when both of them were in far better shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:43 PM
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Who told men “hey, if you pretend to be nice to women, they’ll fuck you as a thank you”? School, television, movies, books, teachers, relatives, you name it. Play ignorant if you want but just know that nobody's buying your schtick here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:28 PM
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And the standards for "hot enough" for Bad Boy are absurdly lower than for a guy who actually has manners and decency. How many skezzed out and filthy - as in shit personal hygiene - bad boys have you seen that get women to flock to them? But a guy who's honest and decent has to have the full 6/6/6 to even get a look. It's fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:24 PM
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and right now it's basically in the 'slightly more true than chiropractory So it's still far more accurate than "accepted" psychology, got it. Seriously, "accepted" psychology is so horrendously bad when it comes to replication and always has been. So if you throw out evopsych you have to throw out all psychology. Soft fat guys in the past were the rulers of the village, or leaders of the nomadic tribes that did more of the planning, thinking, building tools, religious stuff than day-to-day labo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:16 PM
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Because realizing that the entirety of society actively lied to you from literally birth onwards is extremely upsetting. Men are told quite literally from their youngest years starting with children's television that being "nice" is the way to win. Seeing that it is so obviously untrue that the only way people could've have said it was to knowingly lie is worth caring about because you should always care about being lied to. Not caring about being lied to just invites further lies. All you are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:13 PM
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People have been doing office work for 100 years now. It's only after the rise of industrial "food" being made with all kinds of processed crop derivatives (HFCS and seed oils and the like) that we saw the explosion in waistlines. So while correlation doesn't prove causation it does give us a very strong clue as to where to look first. And I will say anecdotally that having cut that shit as much out of my life as possible has led directly to me being back down to my high school weight - but far …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:05 PM
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Why do you reflexively reject evopsych/biology? Is it because the "accepted" branches of psychology said so? Because remember: those "accepted" branches of psychology are the worst offenders in the replication crisis and should not in any way be treated as valid sciences. And it make perfect sense from an evopsych/biology perspective. At its most basic level attraction is based on whether someone will be suitable for producing and raising offspring and a soft fat guy fails at the "can provide an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:03 PM
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The catcalling and shit that they complain about is imaginary but the basic level of attention that they mistakenly think is common courtesy but isn't is real. That latter part is what vanishes if they get treated like an equal to men and losing that is what will break them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:38 PM
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Oh, this is all implicit stuff. Implicit bias and all that has been pretty well discredited due to being so vague and non-replicable. Further your claim was about women in general but the study was on sexualized images which is completely different. This wasn't women in casual wear or professional wear being used in the images so applying it to the general case is not valid. So based on my skim over of methodology I can't say I find this compelling in any way. It's just more psychobabble from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:13 PM
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Today's lesson for you: had you asked politely and not snarked off I would've believed you were asking in good faith and done so. But instead you went mask-off as a troll and I know that such people are not asking in good faith and wouldn't actually read any links I went through the effort of finding. If you're actually curious do feel free to search yourself but I simply don't wish to interact with you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:51 PM
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There won't be one. Enemies at the gates who have not embraced such things will supplant us culturally at a minimum before any such renaissance can happen. And honestly that is for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:49 PM
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Short version: a broken and toxic society. We raise our children to be neurotic and paranoid and hateful. The result is a society made of neurotic, paranoid, and hateful people. The good news is that such a society cannot last. It will fall and societies who have not embraced modern "ethics" and "progress" will replace them and future generations will not be subject to what we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:48 PM
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If people don't complain things don't get changed. Western women bitched and moaned for a century and they're now the most privileged group in human history. Complaining works. Also, you and I both know that what you were actually saying is that they have no right to complain. That's what "you should not complain" means in this context. And you're simply wrong. They have every right and I laid out the reasons why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:43 PM
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It does more to increase chances than following the bloopie advice of "just be yourself". If "just be yourself" worked this board and all the related ones wouldn't exist because the dating market wouldn't be broken to a level that seriously threatens the long-term future of the societies the participants here come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:35 PM
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Since this is clearly aimed at men here's the counterpoint: for decades men have been told starting at early boyhood that looks don't matter, that personality overcomes all. Breaking conditioning that you've been subjected to since before you formed conscious memories is fucking hard. It is 100% fair to complain about how following the advice you were given your whole life and that was used to shape you at your deepest level was a complete and total lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:33 PM
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That's what men are told to do and all y'all ladies claim to want equality. If it's unfair for guys to demand that flat tummy and perfect waist:hips:tits ratio then you need to get over the "must have 6/6/6" idea, too. Attraction is non-negotiable. Bullshit. If that was true no women who didn't have the aforementioned perfect ratios would've ever found a guy. Or we can keep driving the sexes further apart through extreme narcissism like what your post contains and keep wondering why society keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:30 PM
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who often holds us in contempt If everyone you've tried to date has held you in contempt then that's a strong indicator that the problem is you. And given the tone of this little rant it's clear that you have some serious issues that exacerbate the issues the kind of man you seek brings to the table. Maybe try not being so bitter and hateful and not choosing to chase men solely based on your thirst for conflict and you'll find yourself having far less toxic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:27 PM
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That's because that's what all y'all ladies have told us it is. You keep whining about how you get all this excessive attention from guys you don't want it from and how it's creepy and the examples you give are them giving you basic courtesy. Well guess what: doors slammed in your face is what happens when you train entire generations into not giving you courtesy lest they get called creep".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:24 PM
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You won't get any. Or the ones you'll get will be so laughably outdated that you'll wonder how in the hell they can actually pretend they're still issues when they haven't been for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:21 PM
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Show me the study and show me that it passed replication. Show me what happened when women were shown images of male bodies. If we don't have the control that "study" - even if replicated - is worthless. Seriously, shit like this is why the social studies should not be regarded as sciences. They're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:19 PM
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They want to have the same options as men in society They have them. They've had them for decades. But because women are so self-centered by both nature and nurture all y'all still pretend like you're oppressed even though you're insanely privileged and have been for as long as I've been alive at a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:18 PM
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Yeah, there are case studies of women who tried that. They end up literally going insane and needing psychological help. So no, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:16 PM
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It's a chief complaint that is 100% baseless. It's not real, it's all in their heads. It's the product of paranoia and neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:15 PM
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women treat most men as human beings. No, they don't. They treat them as objects of utility. If they don't have utility they simply don't exist. Women treat men worse than fucking dogs. At least dogs get positive attention, even if it's condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:13 PM
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Not only do they not realize it but we have case-studies where women have presented as men and it's literally landed them in mental institutions due to not getting constant attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:12 PM
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One, the type of DV that is usually going on is slapping, pinching, pushing, hair pulling, throwing objects, and other low effort contact. This just smacks of hyper-sexist "women aren't strong enough to hurt anyone". JFC, you're literally speaking like a 1950s man here. There is also more likely to be a makeup session at the end of the DV with lesbians than there are with hetero couples. Top fuckin' kek. Right, because the cycle of abuse never describes make-up lovebombing as a part of the cycle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:20 PM
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Now you're redefining words. Welcome to dealing with postmodernists. All the current era social and sexual stuff is rooted in postmodernism and the first and foremost rule of postmodernism is that there is no such thing as fixed meanings. That makes it impossible to have any kind of good faith discussion because they're simply not acting in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:18 PM
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It's because social awkwardness is indicative of a lot of negative traits. Incompetence, neuroticism, desperation, low status within the group. Or just the misfortune of being raised by parents with bad social skills. And you know the whole "indicative of multiple negative traits" is also said of fatness yet women have been fighting tooth and nail to force people to stop doing that instead of the much easier task of just putting down the fork and skipping the daily caffeinated milkshake.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:46 PM
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No bro furries are absolutely not just a fetish. Yes they are. Just because their fetish is a lifestyle fetish doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:43 PM
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Creepy men are generally both very bold and lacking social awareness, or they actually enjoy making women uncomfortable. And aren't attractive while doing those things. Because guys who are attractive and forward simply get success. Only guys who aren't attractive but still try to be forward get the negative labels you've applied here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:34 PM
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You're intermixing nerd culture and fetish which is enough of a stretch to make your whole argument seem pretty just bad. Yes, kinksters are generally weird and for obvious reasons date within their kink which means they settle on other options. Nerd-cons (since that's what I'm assuming you're meaning "con" to refer to) are mostly attended by singles. So your argument fails there, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:33 PM
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It depends on what you mean by "old timers". Really it was mainly Millennials who went all-in on "personality above all". The big difference is that Gen X and older were just by default more attractive because they were fitter. Look at pictures of average guys - i.e. yearbooks and stuff like that - from the mid-90s and earlier and then compare them to pictures from the 2000s through to today. Men were just in better shape back then so "looksmaxxing" was really just getting clothes that actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:41 PM
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And let her claim she wasn't sending signals if they get picked up on by someone she finds insufficiently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:36 PM
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That would require modern women actually being enjoyable company. They're trained from birth at this point to not be. Entitlement is not enjoyable and women are insanely entitled and that's the root cause of pretty much everything men complain about in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:16 PM
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So EVE Online, a second job where you pay to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:15 PM
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*points to original post* There. That's where. Because "privilege" means "non-necessity" and a non-necessity is the definition of unnecessary. But I'm pretty sure that you just outed yourself as trolling right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:34 PM
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lol, acting like academia - the place feminism is incubated - is a reliable source of facts is just funny. It's not 1875 anymore, academia doesn't actually care about facts when they get in the way of narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:31 PM
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So what would men's approved therapy look like if the classic sort is supposedly for women only? First off it would include plans of action - including physical - to get the man to improve. "Gym therapy" may be a RP meme but it also fucking works. But since fit men also move away from views that the feminist establishment considers acceptable it gets strongly discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:23 PM
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Yeah, that's asking feminists. Google is highly biased. It hasn't been a credible search engine for almost longer than it was one at this point. They badly censor results for any topic related to culture or politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:17 PM
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Where have women shut down discussions advocating for men's mental health? Everywhere and every time the discussion dares to venture away from the bullshit talk-therapy that doesn't work for men because men are hardwired to be creatures of action. Bitch-fests, which is all feminism-approved "therapy" is, doesn't work on them. And more acutely you can look at how meetings by men's advocates get shut down by feminists doing things like pulling fire alarms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:15 PM
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Ok, and that's Japan. We're talking about the west. That's kind of implied by talking about feminism and MGTOW since those are distinctly western phenomena/movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:13 PM
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Because there ARE different waves of feminism Yes, and each one has gotten more hateful and irrational than the last. And the people involved in the first two waves, the ones that were at least semi-sane, are all dead. Because those waves were done by the WWII generation and their parents. Living feminists today are all 3rd wave on down and the 3rd wave is where they went batshit insane. I grew up with a 2nd wave grandmother and 3rd wave mother. I know what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:59 PM
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Where are all these feminists saying these things at? Public statements, policy both governmental and corporate, their fucking slogans, you name it. The "oh it's about equality" think is the wholly-false motte they retreat to when the bailey of their actual public statements and behavior causes backlash. While doing research to learn about feminism Was this "research" just reading what feminists say they are? Because rule one of studying a group is that their own claims of who they are are not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:58 PM
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Who said fuck men's mental health? Feminists. You know, the people who actively fight against men's shelters and men-only spaces and anything else that would let men express themselves in places where they feel safe to. You can't use your mental health as a reason to shut down someone else's discussion tho. Why, because feminists already claimed dibs on that method? Because that's the entire root justification of pretty much everything feminists do and say. You can avoid reading about things tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:56 PM
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If we are going to talk about fragility then we have to talk about the giant elephant in the room. That's what I'm doing and you're melting down about it. Again: incidental human contact isn't traumatic. You need help. Serious help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:54 PM
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Yes. Because no, it's not a mind-shattering event to have someone tap your shoulder to get your attention. If it is then you need help, and since the traditional sources have been taken over by the ideologies that train you into fragility I don't know where to point yo uto get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:50 PM
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Eliminating feminism will stop the waves of propaganda telling women they have trauma when they don't. No, you were not traumatized by an uggo asking you out. No, someone touching your shoulder to get your attention isn't a traumatic experience. No, you're nowhere near as fragile as feminism teaches you you are. Now stand up and be a damned adult instead of the mental child feminism thinks you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:22 PM
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Feminism isn't about painting all men as predatory monsters just for existing. The actual words of feminist organizations and leaders and the policies and even laws implemented at their behest prove this wrong. So your lies mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:20 PM
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Yes. It's kind of beyond obvious. And it's been very openly stated for a long time. It's just been censored to all hell because the entire mainstream media - including this very site - is entirely focused on pandering to women and so hides things that make them feel negative emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:20 PM
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No. If they were we wouldn't be having the problems we are right now because it's been straight women, instead of straight men, teaching men from boyhood on how to attract women. And the results, as negative as they are, speak for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:27 PM
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That's because we're aggressively trained from a young age that the traditional indicators of interest are NOT invitations to approach. And it's women who have been doing this training. You get it in school, from media, in college, and from HR.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:28 PM
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Thanks to the efforts of a movement directed by man-haters society is now structured so that asking the wrong person out - or more accurately by not being a Chad when asking - there are serious potential consequences if she chooses to pursue them. A harassment (or worse) accusation has real legal and financial consequences and can be made for even the most flimsy of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:34 PM
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And once again: intelligence will determine which hot guy she picks. But intelligence will not overrule appearance. If he's not hot his intelligence doesn't matter. So for all practical purposes intelligence doesn't matter to women so far as actually attracting one goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:27 PM
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once you’ve met their looks threshold Which is why they don't care. If you don't have the looks the rest doesn't matter in the least. Looks trumps literally everything. And the fact that we teach our boys and young men otherwise has been a fucking travesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:09 PM
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The bigger problem is the impact the breakdown of social interactions has on society at large. When the most basic goals of all living beings is not available due to the way a society is operating there grows a desire to shake it up and even tear it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:04 PM
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Women don't care about intelligence. You're spreading blue-pill disinformation by implying that they do. They care about looks. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:00 PM
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Most don't. It's because we're raised from birth being told - mostly by the women in our lives - that looks aren't important. If you're told something isn't important you don't waste time learning about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:58 PM
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No, it's just proof that women have no ability to actually articulate complex thoughts and so fall back on personal attacks whenever anyone challenges their assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:01 PM
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This is what a broken society looks like. Congrats, ladies. You won. You wanted men to leave you alone, now it looks like you got what you wanted. I don't want to hear a word of complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:36 PM
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There are more but those are the biggest and most damaging three.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:32 PM
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If you are very pretty, men will love you and will have great luck in marriage. You will - so long as you vet their personality. Being pretty means you get your pick of men. If you pick a shitty one, well, that's your own damned fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:31 PM
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There’s a lot of reliance on intuition, “mind-reading”, subliminals and “knowing what I mean” instead of direct communication. Which means that they are worse communicators. Good communicators make themselves clear. Women are terrible communicators, especially for anything relating to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:58 PM
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Status only matters at the absolute pinnacle. If you're not in the 3 comma club for annual income or not actual nobility or a literal celebrity status doesn't matter. Otherwise the management track would actually enhance dating and it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:48 PM
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Or any other trait that isn't looks. Those things may matter slightly for the longevity of a relationship but if you don't have looks you don't get to start it so looks matter more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:19 PM
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That they don't care about looks and care far more about personality. It's 100% total bullshit and I honestly hold a grudge against society at large for pushing something so contradictory to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:14 PM
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Oh. You're a troll. Because that's the only reason you'd choose to pretend that the whole 80/20 thing that's covered to death on this sub doesn't exist. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:11 PM
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The problem is men expect all women to fuck like men. Because that's what their public representatives and leaders - i.e. feminists - claim that they want. That was the entire fucking argument in favor of the sexual revolution. So you're barking up the wrong tree with this complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:01 PM
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Quick casual sex is very rarely exciting for women. And yet they keep having it. And then wondering why they're so unhappy with lives that all the men around them view as insanely privileged. It's almost like decades of pushing women to act like men as per the feminist direct has been bad for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:11 PM
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The problem is that women won't even give average men the time of day to provide that "little bit more".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:10 PM
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Visible muscles is how men look fit because, well, a fit man has visible muscles. So you're agreeing with OP while thinking you're disagreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:58 PM
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Hmmm, I wonder what culture that boy was from. Because last time I checked the native Anglo culture didn't exactly view machetes as a solution to any problem other than weeds while certain other cultures that for some reason have been mass-imported to London find them a solution to pretty much every problem. So instead of holding this against men you need to be holding against the people who vote to let these problematic cultures in and those voter are predominantly women based on election resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:51 PM
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Here’s a radical thought, use your words, mean what you say and say what you mean and expect others to do the same. Except expecting women to use open communication is simply living in fantasy land. Women refuse to communicate directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:08 PM
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That's what happens when you let Marxists take over social institutions. The core concept of Marxism - both economic and cultural - is that people are completely interchangeable cogs with no unique features. And if people aren't already that way they must be converted accordingly. That is why there has been a very long effort to homogenize men and women into the same behavior by emasculating men and masculanizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:24 PM
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I thought we were past policing what two consenting adults do in the bedroom. Like so many other things claimed by the social left it turns out it's a total lie and only actually applies to things that they think are ok and not to anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:21 PM
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If you have shared hobbies: friends with the same interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:20 PM
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It's salty older women upset that the guys they were promised would be waiting for them after their hoe phase have opted to skip the sloppy seventy-fourths and are looking for women without baggage and with their full complement of prime years still ahead of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:19 PM
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Simple: it's "confusing" because women (and bloopies) refuse to acknowledge the truth that the problem lies on the women's side of the equation. Thus they flail around for literally any possible answer that blames men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:05 PM
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Both. That's the answer. We can see this in the sheer number of "abyooose" cases where women willingly ignore all the red flags because he's good looking and/or has money. He's a total shitbag and it's obvious within minutes of meeting him bet since he's hot it gets ignored. Whereas the not-hot, middle-income guy might as well not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:01 PM
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And all of that investment is wasted if she refuses to accept that not being a landwhale is the most important part of appearance for women. So many (barely) walking spheres caked up with makeup still wondering why nobody's interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:37 PM
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You're mistaking basic polite behavior with being nice. And honestly that explains so much about modern society. Our standards have slipped so far that simply not being a raging asshole in public is now viewed as abnormal behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:41 PM
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And the fact that women find being nice a turn off and disqualifier for relationships is something very important for all men to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:40 PM
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Poor guy. He's willingly choosing to be abused just so that he's not alone. And I'll bet she never gives him his own kid(s), either. Just expects him to pay for her hoe trophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:28 PM
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It's simple: the women are lying. If that behavior was enough, well, the red pill and the manosphere and all of that would've never come into existence because the loneliness epidemic among men wouldn't exist. What women mean with that is that those things are the bare minimum that a man who already has met the "6/6/6" requirement has to have as well. So once he qualifies as a Chad then he has to meet those last few minor qualifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:27 PM
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If - and only if - she tells him she's pregnant. There should be a set time from the time he is informed but if she delays in telling him that timer doesn't start until he's informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 01:26 PM
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So you have to pay women to sleep with you That's a summary of marriage and even dating. Men almost always pay far more than women do both while dating and while married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:14 PM
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When OP started talking about love they showed that they had no understanding of the subject at hand. Alpha widows didn't love the alpha, they craved him at a far more primal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:10 PM
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"Alpha widow" has nothing to do with love so from the very first line of your post you're ranting about something completely different. Women very rarely love alphas. They crave them. And what causes an alpha widow is having had that craving satisfied in the past and never being able to find another guy to satisfy it, usually due to the ravages of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:09 PM
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When they try - i.e. with things like RP teaching - women cry to the institutions of power to get those efforts shut down. Women have all the power today and it's the ones who have the power who have the responsibility of social change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:41 PM
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So you don't tell her. There's a reason "don't ask how the sausage is made" has been a thing for a long fucking time. It turns out the ugly realities of how things actually get done are not things most people who enjoy the end result want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:36 PM
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Attracting a mate is literally the entire purpose of all living beings. So I would argue that selling the advice as a way to attain that goal is the most correct thing possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:47 PM
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Just be yourself means put your best foot forward but don’t fake your personality. But it doesn't. There's no mention of "best" in the phrase "just be yourself". "Just be" means "present as you are", not "present your best face/self". That's why it's terrible advice. This is the whole problem with men nowadays. You can’t use your brains. Oh, you're a misandrist troll. Should've checked before replying. Well, I'll leave this up for passersby but you don't get to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:37 PM
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The problem with "just be yourself" is that it feeds a sense of entitlement. "Just be" means "don't try to change or improve". But the fact is that men are not human beings, we are human doings. So a man who chooses not to improve himself has nothing to offer a woman and will fail to attract one. What we need to teach our boys starting when they are very young is that they should always strive to be their best self and always be improving.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:36 PM
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Best advice I ever got was to remember that your job exists to pay for the rest of your life and not to be the entirety of your life. That lead to me going into a field that I wouldn't do 40 hours a week for fun but do find tolerable enough to do for 40 hours a week and does provide the income necessary to support the things I actually do enjoy in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:17 PM
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It always was. The destruction of traditional relationship and sexual norms was part of the effort to normalize degeneracy. The so-called "slippery slope fallacy" turned out to just be a fucking map that warned us of exactly what has now come to pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:48 PM
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It's very hard for someone to break free from mindsets they've been conditioned to from birth. Many people are not strong enough to break free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:46 PM
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It's almost like old social norms were the result of evolution and the social revolutionaries who tore them down didn't bother to actually think things through...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:44 PM
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They do it by having acting talent. She doesn't. That's why she's flopped after moving on from a character that was written with no personality and has no serious action scenes (Sansa). That's why I say her career was the product of luck with her getting the Sansa role. Pretty much woman could've nailed that role because there's just not much to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:02 PM
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Yes, her false image of herself led to discontentment with her life. Very common, especially among women. She thought she was hot shit when in reality she was the result of luck and family connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:53 PM
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Uh huh, you know a bunch of lawyers and two judges. Sure you do, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:41 PM
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Yes, because people - and especially women - never vocally claim things that they know are untrue in an attempt to convince others, and even themselves, that they are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:32 PM
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She had sex appeal, for better or worse, fresh off the set I never saw evidence of that. She tried to have it but from what I saw of the buzz around her she was never held up as a particularly stunning or hot Hollywood actress.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:31 PM
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Her career prospects aren't what they used to be because she has very little acting talent. Her role as Sansa didn't actually require her to act much since Sansa wasn't written to have much personality in the first place nor to actually to much beyond talk. Her career floundered as soon as she got roles that required more work. Basically she has a career at all because she lucked into being cast in GoT as a character that nobody liked even in the books and whose role requires little actual actin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:25 PM
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Yup. IME men don't ask for divorce unless there's a really good reason for it. So if he filed there's a real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:23 PM
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I do hate the game. It's why I'm so politically focused. The way to win is to change the game. For far too long we let the people who turned the game into what it is today operate with unchallenged impunity and thus they control all of the institutions of social power, including in politics. That has to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:22 PM
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Yes Yes Yes No Yes Yes Yes Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:20 PM
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And then we wonder why developmental disorders have become so much more common than they used to be...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:02 PM
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So here's what I don't get: what is "socialize regularly" meaning in 2023? Because I go out and do shit all the time. And there are other people there. But what I've seen is that people don't talk to strangers. If you're not already part of their group they're not talking to you. Or maybe that's just an artifact of where I lived for the last 10 years. I'm hoping it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:11 PM
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I've been doing that for a decade. Literally uprooted my whole life to move somewhere to facilitate that. Still alone. My guess is you're a Boomer or Gen X and not part of the generations raised with the message of "talking to strangers is bad" beaten into their heads since childhood. Oh don't get me wrong, I manage plenty of single serving friends like this. But anything lasting, be it friendships or relationships? No. Though I'm hoping that might change having moved somewhere more resistant to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:07 PM
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And for every one of those stories how many others are still alone? This sounds like apex fallacy to me, which is the fallacy of seeing only the best of something (in this case outcomes) and assuming it's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:05 PM
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IIRC they also have the highest rate of domestic violence and other domestic abuse of all couple types. And the margin isn't small.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:48 PM
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Because we're decades deep into wall-to-wall propaganda telling men that doing that is creepy and harassment and can be punished by law. So why would they? Or are you admitting that all that shit was just one big shit test? And if it was I would say that once and for all disproves the conspiracy theory that we're in a patriarchy since a patriarchy wouldn't let women call the shots like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:34 PM
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It would. But it comes with the risk of rejection and women simply cannot handle being rejected. They don't have the mental fortitude for it because our society coddles them from birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:32 PM
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Amount of words said and actual value of the content of those words are two completely different things. Communication is about the content, not the quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:06 PM
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If people are getting married for practical reasons like this instead of their desire to be together, maybe they shouldn't get married in the first place. Or maybe it's a sign that marriage isn't and never was actually about love and only love. Maybe it's time we bring society back down to reality instead of trying to stay locked in this Hollywood dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:04 PM
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And the idea of moulding someone to be the perfect partner says to me that they don’t want a fully-formed person with independent thoughts and ideas and a personality that grew organically, rather they want someone who they can train, like a dog almost, into being the perfect partner. I mean, isn't this just a summary of how women traditionally have viewed men for basically ever? It's literally a trope, one of the longest lasting ones in media today. So if it's bad when men do it to women then w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:23 PM
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For older dudes dating young women, there is a powerful interest group against: the ¡FEMINISTAS!, because they can't STAND the though of a guy "getting over". The straight ones also can't stand the thought of the men they believe they are entitled to - the ones with good jobs and good personalities - saying "fuck that" to women their own age and dating ones that have more of the things men actually desire in women. The outrage against age gaps is almost entirely rooted in jealousy and sour grape…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:21 PM
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You are a flagrant hypocrite. So a standard misandrist feminist (though I repeat myself).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:59 PM
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But you do need to be Prince Handsome. Just not Prince Charming. In fact if you're Prince Handsome Jackass women will fall all over you because there's something deeply wrong with a whole fucking lot of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:52 PM
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Slut shaming has been around since the dawn of time. And as society has moved away from it slutty behavior and hypergamy have greatly increased. So you argue in favor of that which you are complaining about here. Women’s behaviour isn’t going to change Why not? It changed to what it is now. Why can't it change back? What you mean to say is that you don't want it to change but frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. This content just makes men harbour more resentment for women If women don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:24 PM
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Statistics show women out-spend their income far more than men do. So that career woman is still a net financial drain but she doesn't even bring the benefits of taking care of the home. So what she offers to a man is a decrease in spending ability for him and an increase in workload for taking care of the house and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:20 PM
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Unfortunately evolution always wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:18 PM
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And that's why you misunderstand men. I have my own money. I'm not looking for more - especially when stats show that women outspend their income more than men no matter how high so she's not actually bringing financial benefit no matter what. I'm looking for other qualities that will supplement my life in ways that I'm missing. Money ain't one of those so if she offers those other things I don't care if she's broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:18 PM
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And the marriage rate is crashing and so is the rate of relationships at all. So it seems that this isn't working because 1/3 of a smaller number still means the number is shrinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:02 PM
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Bingo. That's why it's such a common tale for successful women to wind up alone or in unhappy marriages they settled for. They completely misunderstood their target market and so brought goods of no real value to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:01 PM
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As long as she remembers that men don't have that same expectation and so she has to also present the things that men in her target income bracket actually value if she wants a relationship and not just a hookup she's just fine to have that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:00 PM
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The problem with you analysis is that the entire issue exists because of how women react to men's negative emotions. Men can't fix it, only women can. And that's because only women can change how women react to something. If men try that's called abuse and if it happens at a large scale it's called patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:53 PM
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we as a society should move into the direction of accepting men's emotions No, this is wrong. Men accept other men's emotions. WOMEN need to start accepting men's emotions. Despite decades of asking to see them they still refuse to actually accept them and so at this point it really does just come across as one societal-scale shit-test.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:48 PM
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Men do have attention paid to them when they show non-anger negative emotion. That attention manifests as disgust and usually is accompanied by a withdrawal of attention and affection. That is how men learn to not show those emotion. But attention is paid, it's just a very toxic kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:47 PM
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The meaning is set by the actual use and the actual use is the one you are aggressively denying via the motte-and-bailey fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:41 PM
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This is a complete misunderstanding of the wall. The wall is an inevitable natural product of time. Competence and accomplishment doesn't have any such block and that's why this comparison fails. A man can become competent and increase competence at any time should he so choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:40 PM
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I would argue that putting effort into appearance absolutely counts towards the amount of effort a woman puts into getting into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:38 PM
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And this is exactly what I mean. As soon as they take advice that actually works out comes the cries of "muh soggy knees".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:43 PM
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Yet when men do that they get castigated if they dare to seek out advice that actually works. So it's hard to take this argument seriously given that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:31 PM
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So then whose responsibility is it? The schools? TV? Because those are who have been doing the "teaching" for the past 30-odd years and, well, the state of dating and relationships among the generations subjected to that speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:20 PM
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however, "Hi, I'm John, and I'm similar to other guys you might be interested in but I also have a sensitive side" absolutely is attractive So you all say but as soon as John actually shows that sensitive side you get drier than the Sahara and start looking for that next branch to swing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:20 PM
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Because that "formal" definition is just the motte in the motte-and-bailey fallacy that is all that the term is. The actual meaning is the "abused" meaning. The only - and I do mean only - time that "formal" definition gets trotted out is when someone calls out the abusive use of the term. So it's clear that the real meaning is the so-called "abusive" one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:34 PM
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For the billionth time - putting aside toxic masculinity doesn’t mean you have to be effeminate or a blubbering little soy boy, ffs. And yet when you take away all the behaviors feminists call "toxic" that's all you're left with. If you disagree list out the non-toxic feminist-approved behaviors you think contradict this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:01 PM
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And yet feminists don't fight against any of the things women do to do that. In fact they openly encourage most if not all of them. So feminists are yet again the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:00 PM
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And who is the media catering to? Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:59 PM
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Basically OP's post is the result of men not showing women their other negative emotions due to the fact that women - not men - punish men for them. OP is clearly a woman and so has only seen what the men around her show her. Almost every man has an example in their lives of a time they showed vulnerability to a partner or female friend and the negative consequences of doing so. The only people men can be vulnerable around - and this is a direct contradiction of the claims of women-dominated med…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:06 PM
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Look like you put some care in and you'll be fine. So if you dye your hair make sure it doesn't just look like you spilled KoolAid on it a month ago. If you have tattoos put some effort into an actual design, don't just spam your body with clipart. Clothes should fit and actually work for your body shape and size. Basically all the same advice that goes to men regarding this stuff. And it's the same advice because it's pretty well universal. It's basic "how not to look like trash" stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:23 PM
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The only thing I'll challenge here is your claim it's the fault of both genders. It isn't. Men who show vulnerability to women repulse those women. The reason other men teach each other to suppress vulnerable emotions is to try to save them from learning that the hard way. It still all comes down to how women react to men's emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:19 PM
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It doesn't. It makes up the entire range they are willing to show, but that's because men learn young that nobody wants them to show any other emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:17 PM
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