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I find this so damaging as well. The idea that it’s unbecoming to actually have a life and be a happy person past 30 because you might not ever be a movie star appearance wise. It’s gross and shallow.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 06:07 PM
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It seems like the TRPs going for casual sex will naturally go to casual sex markets, including clubs, tinder, insta, whatever where women are most open to casual flings. It should not come as a huge surprise to them that their chosen circles reflect their nature, but I think people tend to forget that their groups are the not summation of life. I knew a guy who constantly hung out with lady lawyers and he seemed to believe that aggressive female lawyers was some sort of epidemic crisis socially …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:31 PM
1

Okay well that is cool you’ll just have to find someone who is similar in personality and won’t be put off by crazy stories
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 11:59 PM
1

If you went one time, why would you tell a woman you are dating later on? I mean maybe if you had a crippling physical and financial addiction to escorts then that would be a problem but I see no reason to tell some woman you get serious with later on if it happened one time out of a unique circumstance like a pandemic or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 10:38 PM
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I literally said it’s ok but it might not actively turn me on if you were dating me but that’s all I said. I doubt I’d care. I mean I wouldn’t care if you got a lap dance once. If you were getting them every weekend it might be a bit sad. Also I don’t think it’s great for women to do that and I got married in part to have those needs met. See I tried to have empathy for male sexual frustration because I certainly understand it more than low libido women do but you still got mad at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:58 PM
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Sure I guess. If you’re single. But it doesn’t meant it would not be a turn off to find out about and it would be better if you found a real partner. That’s only if I end up dating you later otherwise I don’t care. I’m a woman with very high sexual needs. I had no idea it wasn’t normal to want sex twice a day ideally (unless really sick) until I went online. I know it’s annoying. That said I know if I tried to solve this with casual sex with many partners you all would excoriate me. Luckily I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:42 PM
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I go for the one I love and who loves me back. Don’t care about which shallow 2D image a bunch of men who could never have a chance with those women rated based on a photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:11 PM
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Good for you for dumping him. He’s supposed to be your bf but is freaked out over a makeup bag? What a loser. Some guys are stuck in high school.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/06/20 08:00 PM
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Men generally have an idea of a vague future self that will be responsible and married with kids, but they figure future self will be ready and make all that happen and they can just kick back and relax until then. Not realizing that for future self to exist they have to take action themselves. I mean frankly many people are like this, male or female. Wanting to procrastinate big decisions is human. Unfortunately though, men especially are prone to this attitude with relationships because they s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/06/20 07:54 PM
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No it’s not a joke this is interesting and should be explored more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:01 AM
1

You should make a post expanding on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:23 AM
6

You should definitely make a post about this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:23 AM
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Women say all the time that they literally assume that a really hot guy is probably a dummy and good for casual sex but probably too much of a player for relationship material. And people assume attractive women are idiots all the time. Sure halo effect exists but there are other effects that contradict it totally like the ones I mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:34 PM
0

Holy shit a Wikipedia link to a manosphere buzzword. This changes everything!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:11 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:00 AM
2

No Sis, I would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:27 AM
1

Yeah ok but you don’t really sound on fire for your gf now and i hope that gets better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:17 AM
2

You’re like a great antidote to becoming anorexic bc I never want to sound like you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:16 AM
2

Yeah I meant like I hope you can get past that because it is torturing yourself and not fair to her either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:58 AM
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Okay. Well you wont care about this but my genuine hope for you is to find a woman to be with, with whom you have really good chemistry, and the sex is so good you don’t worry about random anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:40 AM
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Life is short man that would suck to realize you spent your whole life sad about it. Try to find ways to get what you want and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:33 AM
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Are you going to spend your whole life lamenting the insufficient casual sex you got?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:31 AM
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Amazing you can know that by looking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:38 AM
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Her situation (and mine) has nothing to do with the conversation being had here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:20 AM
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As someone in a similar situation and who has always gone for fairly older men, it is not the same as gross internet men who have no interest in being a boyfriend or husband at all talking about their “theories” about why they need to pump and dump young teens. Yes it is ridiculous for women to be saying that to a woman who is nearly 30 and I am way more open-minded about age gaps, than they are, but I doubt either of us are with men who specially spend all day making up crackpot retconned socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:10 AM
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It’s about denial of mortality too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:05 AM
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Yeh part of this is women being child free or becoming wives later but the culture hasn’t caught up. People still think a hot 38 year old has to be a MILF look but really it is not always that claer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:04 AM
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Men here will bring up “wife goggles” and never acknowledge that its just as often “starter wife”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:55 AM
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Lol ok were now arguing men don’t go for the hottest girl. Are you all “soo visual” or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:55 AM
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Oh you read a study?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:19 AM
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Why tf are you arguing with me making the exact same point I was making. Why don’t you argue with the moronic incels who need to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:13 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:53 PM
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I’m not where did you get that? I’m saying there’s an underlying awkwardness that made it hard to have that truly free my life is perfect young love experience. Not to mention living with parents being broke etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:15 PM
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The entire point of the phrase is that it’s mostly in their heads. They’re miserable because they choose to be not because they didn’t fuck Stacy in 8th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:52 PM
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You’re right. Everyone here thinks they had the confidence of an adult during puberty? Come on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:51 PM
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Did you get through your awkward not comfortable in your skin phase way before everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:51 PM
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Is it really because it seems a lot more like its awkward and difficult to plan anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:50 PM
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Yes I agree, we should move past high school
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:49 PM
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Thisss
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:35 PM
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I didn’t say you don’t mentor I said that’s the better choice. unconstructive chastising is called self righteousness. I would never have read your comment as trying to help other people it read very much as criticizing someone for something they cannot control and not proposing any solutions. If you’d said ok maybe that worked for you but most women shouldn’t do so then it would be believable that you were just helping. “I know I’m a good person” isn’t a good way to be a good person because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 05:26 PM
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If you believe all this and genuinely care then you would spend your energy mentoring young people. If you’re just being a busybody then you lecture and single out people who can’t possibly go back in time to live up to your standards. I just prefer constructive action. Even if you think you’re helping lots of hypothetical readers you did it by basically nailing one random person to the cross and that’s the only thing you know for sure. You don’t even know if this helped anyone to read. I don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 04:22 PM
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Did anyone ever tell you you shouldn’t criticize someone for something they can’t possibly change. Saying “should’ve could’ve would’ve” to someone about their past is just called being mean. Not even a priest in a confessional would be that unkind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:35 PM
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Re positioning? I’m not changing my argument. I’m saying the same point. I’m not “bothered” you aren’t that controversial. I never even said you were wrong, I said you were being uncharitable and unconstructive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:26 PM
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Lol wow
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:23 PM
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Not even remotely. I just know it’s in poor character to be a hindsight naggy critic. Best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:18 PM
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Aw gee what a constructive and helpful nagging finger wagging hindsight comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:15 PM
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It’s just ironic they don’t realize by comparing us to actual inanimate goods or resources that it’s a much bigger red flag for women to stay away from them, than any n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:13 PM
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It’s one or the other, both parts of your comment can’t be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 11:56 PM
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Dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:50 AM
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This is crazy, you have no guarantee that you’ll even live ten years. I am glad it worked out for some people you know but it is generally not good advice. If you do not understand the many legal and personal benefits that come from marriage and the protection it offers for couples and children I suggest you use google. Even medical alone, which you dismissed as nothing, would be worth it, but there is much more to it, and in no way is being an unofficial couple living together the same thing as…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 05:39 AM
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Because it’s all the sacrifices of marriage without the benefits and protections, obviously. And because it does not take 10 years to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:18 AM
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And to think for most of human history marriage is HOW you grow together. Not some tutorial for 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 08:40 PM
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Women wear Uggs every day even though men are repulsed by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:12 AM
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We don’t, but we definitely don’t call them fizzy drinks because we aren’t toddlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 03:45 AM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 03:39 AM
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As I predicted
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 01:35 AM
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You are unaware of a world of men who prefer to pay and do it by choice but I realize instead of facing this reality you will just play no true Scotsman and say why they aren’t real men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 12:47 AM
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You wish
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 12:15 AM
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For the record certain men of a certain level of success especially in certain areas and subcultures insist on paying and would be offended if she tried to split. They didn’t work that hard to be denied the sense of generosity and power of being able to treat a beautiful woman. However the men who are not that way don’t believe they exist or dismiss them as submissive which is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 07:05 PM
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So men are women now I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:57 PM
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Yes by that you mean easier to manipulate sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:42 PM
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What have you tried to help ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:19 AM
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Ok sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 09:01 PM
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No harm in presenting a new view
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:31 PM
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I’m more interested in independent thought than parroting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:04 PM
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Bla bla
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 06:40 PM
0

Well those girls don’t want guys like you so it’s a win win
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 06:29 PM
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I would never commit a whole meal and evening to a guy I wasn’t pretty sure I was quite into. So if anything you should take it as a go ahead that she likes you. Sure you risk the occasional user but most normal people don’t want to eat with someone who’s company they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:47 PM
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I bet you that tone was in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:22 PM
2

You: “what are your hobbies?” Her: lists hobbies You: what is this BULLSHIT ONEUPMANSHIP and FAKE SHALLOW HOBBIES
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:58 PM
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Why are you listing her hobbies in a sarcastic tone? I genuinely want to understand why you think her hobbies don’t count or that she was trying to compete with you when she did a normal date thing and talked about her interests. Why are your hobbies real and hers are not, to you? You literally ASKED her and she answered. Why are you insanely reacting this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:52 PM
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I think you’re kind of right. A lot of things guys are calling female nature are just their lack of understanding of the human condition and human nature. But they only notice it with women because that’s who they want to sleep with. But it’s still not true to say there isn’t any specifics differences that male female nature not the same as male.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:37 PM
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My friends who made those lists had the faith stuff but also lots of hotness
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:31 PM
1

Legally you have to do this Jk dont hurt me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:04 AM
1

It absolutely can with the right woman who is soft
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 10:23 PM
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In an a relationship this feeling of nurturing will cement the overall connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:27 PM
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You have it backwards If a man they love shares past hurts it cements the love more IF he has shown masculinity and if he is not becoming a wallowing despairing whiner. It cements her nurturing instinct which cements the relationship as a whole not just attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:26 PM
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Because you guys think we mean “I love men who WALLOW IN ENDLESS SELF PITY” when we say we feel nurturing to men who had hard times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:25 PM
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You’re wrong honestly you have no idea how many women I know who disprove this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:57 PM
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I see wot you did there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:33 PM
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None of that is true, do you have any idea how often women especially medium to low dominance women get their maternal and nurturing instinct triggered by stories of abuse and bullying a man went through? You are wrong. For some women the feeling is overwhelming and they want to do anything to make sure he’s okay and it does not inspire disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:32 PM
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I was replying to two different comments so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:31 PM
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No they are distinct. Women are not trying to provide for and protect the guy. They’re feeling soft and warm and emotional and pity at his specific wounds. Men feel protective and want to shelter her from the world, not heal specific wounds with therapeutic listening and hugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:00 PM
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No they are distinct. Women are not trying to provide for and protect the guy. They’re feeling soft and warm and emotional and pity at his specific wounds. Men feel protective and want to shelter her from the world, not heal specific wounds with therapeutic listening and hugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:00 PM
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Women’s nurturing instinct. Men do this too with saving broken women but for men it’s protective instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:32 PM
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https://youtu.be/c82z_bxy60E See really the jewelry is for men too obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:21 PM
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Lol telling someone a fact isn’t arrogant
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 05:16 PM
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No you are just wrong and ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 08:33 PM
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Well despite your feelings which you’ve decided are facts, most people on the selfie thread were average and some were above.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:54 PM
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That is incorrect. False humility is pretending you’re less than you are. Humility is knowing who you are. It isn’t arrogant to admit you are good at something if you just state it simply and aren’t lording it over people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:31 PM
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Humility is just being honest about your strengths and weaknesses. It isn’t dishonestly pretending you’re bad at something you’re actually good at.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:24 PM
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Bless you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 11:29 PM
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Are you saying that men felt like it was less of a sin to sleep with whores or sluts than with virtuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 06:46 AM
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It’s because of what you said, people want sexual exclusivity. In modern times that usually means “boyfriend girlfriend” no matter how silly it seems. It is just an arbitrary title we have now that people wait longer to get engaged and married. And if they are going to meet your family and such but you aren’t married yet you need a title. Not sure what is confusing about this. Sure it’s more real to only use fiancé and husband / wife for titles but do you think most people these days want to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 11:09 PM
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Dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 08:22 PM
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What is old to you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:11 PM
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Okay and I wasn’t even talking about it you I said church guys tend to feel bad about porn use and wish to stop and Reddit guys like on here think it’s some manly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:00 PM
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an older guy who is just looking for someone to die with cynical af Old people want to live life too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:58 PM
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At least those guys feel bad about porn use the way they would about smoking. As opposed to le epic Reddit “muh extensive connoisseur niche porn sampling is muh right as a man and makes me a man” grossness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:44 PM
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Just ignore them they don’t believe Christians exist because they’re sheltered and provincial
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:38 PM
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It’s kind of funny the delusion of divorces. It’s like a lot of men believe the marriage was sunny and perfect and honeymoon bliss and then one day wifey saw Magic Mike XXL and could no longer be attracted to her husband every again and was bored so an hour later she dumped divorce papers on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:55 PM
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Not even remotely. Would you if you stole bread for your family like to be lumped in with child molesters? You’re both criminals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:20 PM
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Not all criminals are the same my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 05:13 AM
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That’s extreme oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:23 AM
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So what is the point of the looksmatch concept? From what I can see the only thing it’s for is for men to be mad when they feel women are stepping above their station by going for a guy “above her looksmatch.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 06:56 PM
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Not really. But we get it you want to be a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 04:58 AM
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That’s a nice theory but it isn’t the reality of human variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:44 AM
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On the contrary. Someone who feels just as few options could easily have very little trust that their love will be requited and if they are a low risk low openness person they will repress the feelings that lead to falling in love, unless they have assurance of reciprocation after some time. This is why it depends on personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:49 PM
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Clearly you aren’t informed about western dating. You’re using “I’m looking for a relationship” as some sort of test the girl has to pass the where the thinks like a lawyer and says wait but you didn’t say with ME and then somehow she doesn’t pass the test unless she refuse sex with you because you want a relationship? You’re taking for granted that somehow having sex means she lost her chance for a LTR even though you heavily implied you were considering it with her. So you use words here to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 02:13 PM
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Yeah it was very odd, it doesn’t even make logical grammatical sense let alone actual sense to try to say a person should know that “I’m looking for a relationship” right before having sex secretly means “but not with you!” I mean it’s one thing to use fuzzy language to get sex, but Op was basically saying his words mean the opposite of what they mean and it’s not his problem if people can’t mind read that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:56 PM
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I’ve tried to parse it and what I got was the girl pushes for casual sex but when the guy said he’s looking for a serious relationship he meant “and as such, you will be out of the running for that if you let me have sex with you before I overtly commit to you” that’s the best I got
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:58 AM
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A woman can talk to a man for an hour about what is bothering her and he will ignore her or tolerate at best, but one turning on your heel and walking away is worth that entire communication; a guy who’s in it for real will get something is wrong and not have to be told and somehow this bothers them way less than talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:21 AM
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The main reason this happens is that women will often be trying to salvage a relationship for a long time and often do it by voicing their concerns (“nagging” to talk about the relationship) and the man will filter this out as white noise. Then she will already process the loss and move on so when the breakup happens she is all but walked out, and the guy is blindsided because he either didn’t think she was serious about “something has to give or I can’t take this anymore” or he just experienced…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:22 AM
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I personally do not think this has an easy gender divide. Speed of “falling in love” imo is more related to personality type, high or low risk or openness, high or low trust, and how slowly or quickly one processes emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:28 AM
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It is a bug for committed relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 12:18 AM
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As someone from a major city the majority of young people did just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:48 PM
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That is terrible. There aren’t any right words to say to fix it. Be there, make food, let them know you’re available for support.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:29 PM
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You shouldn’t have stated that the beauty standard is true across cultures and time. It isn’t. It’s more accurate to say it’s the same intraculturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:42 PM
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I personally wouldn’t but that doesn’t mean it would be the same as doing that on a real date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:28 AM
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I used to get drinks or dinner one on one with male friends all the time when I was single, where the guy would ask exactly like that. Does not count unless he makes it clear it is a date with romantic intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:54 AM
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Why I miss so many IOIs, I’ll never know Being male
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:32 AM
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even polyamory has defined exclusive relationships. There are just more than one, even if they share with someone else, there is still something between the two of them that is exclusive from the general population. Even slutty people select for someone they find hot. Hippie free love is only okay for general love of humanity in fraternal way, as romantic love it is as cheap and meaningless as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:59 AM
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No I don’t lol it is bad. Except in the very universal human sense. Being a hippy is terrible for romantic love. Which requires exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:11 AM
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Why would I want something bad to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 05:40 AM
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What does this mean in English
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:33 AM
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Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:33 AM
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While a man being powerful and dominant over the woman is a common pattern or preference, the way Op describes it is with fetishistic language. He obviously seems to be getting off just on discussing it. The way he emphasizes certain words and reiterates just how extreeeeeme he likes it are all classic things people do when discussing their turn on. It’s the difference between a post saying “women should have clean feet with pedicured toenails and wear nice heels” and a post saying “all couples …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:29 AM
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People with fetishes need to realize not everyone secretly has the same fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 02:50 AM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 02:04 AM
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Yeah I’m saying what you’re calling “the complete package” is experienced as hateful disloyalty by women. It’s weird you can’t understand me. Anyway, I prefer men who try to master themselves just as I try to master female impulses to hypergamy. In other words I prefer to date adult men and not self-excusing man children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:55 AM
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Weirdly specific...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:43 AM
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Wow, even after reading my comment you think the only choices are apathetic towards all women, or indiscriminately affectionate? This is fascinating, even when I explain it to you you still exhibit the traits. Quite obviously, I would prefer my exclusive man to be loyal and affectionate to me while specifically not being affectionate to other women but only merely courteous (unless the woman offended me or him in which case he should no longer be courteous and should defend me.).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:38 AM
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No that is not how human romantic love works but good job exemplifying my original comment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:10 AM
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No, hippy love is stupid and cheap and selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:03 AM
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It’s true, men who have full heads of hair in late middle age still worry about it even if their whole family has men who do not bald
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:22 PM
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Smh coconut phobes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:13 PM
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Interestingly if men actually followed this alleged empathy to any struggling women then they would betray the women they made a commitment to. Certain men seem to think showing indiscriminate “love” to any woman they “genuinely feel for” which usually means gives them a boner is really generous, whereas when they have wives who have given them their youths and their bodies, said wives do not consider it loving or caring when he feels like he must hit on a young drive through cashier to “make he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:12 PM
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Oh for Pete’s sake
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 10:48 PM
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It’s nice that you support traditional gold digging
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 10:47 PM
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This is just you, men are actually pretty divided on this and will speak up about it. Some are very adamant that face is all that matters not body.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:45 PM
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Brought to you by M. Knight Shyamalamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 01:36 AM
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We are all lucky to hit the wall it means we stayed alive a while
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:42 AM
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Sounds like she did ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:37 AM
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If you’re lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:37 AM
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Do you get all you views from John Hughes films and not real humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:36 AM
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You’ll hit the wall
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:35 AM
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Right they are avoiding guys like you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:31 AM
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Lol don’t tell acne covered greasy hair braces wearing teens that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:30 AM
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Hurrdurr good looking people don’t have internet and can’t possibly have emotional issues or need advice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:27 AM
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Really do you have a peer reviewed source for that budday
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 12:26 AM
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109 Masculine, 127 Feminine Female, no pill
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:09 PM
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Why would you want to get a boner in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:39 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:31 PM
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Classical education also teaches you how little you know, and would never claim that some subjects are useless trivia, a true intellectual understands most people have something to say. Fetishizing high school math doesn’t make you smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:54 PM
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Well see I never ever count any measure of attraction before meeting in person. They could have crazy chemistry irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:41 PM
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I am more educated than you are and I managed to do it without becoming pompous and full of myself about it and condescending to everybody. Guess I should go thank my schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:39 PM
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It has to do with how men will not accept the word No as a complete sentence from a woman. In rape cases but also others! Many others. They needle and demand reasons and stalk and ask why and act confused like they do not know the definition of the word No so hence the phrase explaining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:34 AM
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Well an expectation kind of forces things, so don’t have that on you or him. Don’t limit yourself bc you’re worried some people online might label you. I don’t see how it would be FDS like but either way don’t deny yourself things because of trying to be against something. If you think it might be a fun evening to learn about his life and worth going out for then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:18 AM
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Is there some crime in talking to someone because you are interested in what they do? I know I used to chat with men when I was single because they had career fields I found cool to learn more about even if I might not have without knowing that. Like learning about the art world or publishing world. You aren’t promising marriage. Could be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:35 AM
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No one wronged me, you’re just suffering from terminal STEM fetishization. And when you have no argument you fall back on accusing me of lack of logic without actually supporting that. The typical move of stem guys on here who have zero understanding of how people are. Most people aren’t using mean median and mode every day. If you do for your job great. Get over your solipsism. The fact is I recall the basics and if I needed to I could use them. They are not more important than that for most pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:12 AM
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I did learn them in school. My every day work does not require that I use them, nor does it require in depth analysis of the symbolism of the woman in the attic in Jane Eyre, nor the main exports of African countries, all things I learned in school. All things I could look up and remember if I needed to. Your lack of understanding of human beings is far more concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:17 AM
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Think about which women are most famous for being wives: women like Kate Middleton and Megan Markle. They married princes, very high status and not in a rebellious or criminal way, good reputations, status, stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:14 AM
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Ugh it’s so discouraging how you can’t get the point. I didn’t say “don’t ever use math” I said it’s unlikely most of us need to regularly use mean median mode etc and that if we did need to somehow we wouldn’t have a smartphone to look it up. And again you actually think people can find images of mean median average of HUMAN ATTRACTIVENESS? That gives me way more concern for humanity than any lack of interest in math.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:03 AM
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Why would we need that if not for our jobs and how would those possibly be used to measure human attractiveness? I feel worried about the future that people actually believe they can get objective math answers about something purely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:10 AM
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Why do you think your personal attacks are going to fly here? Your argument is “anyone who doesn’t agree is a lonely loser” did you graduate 3rd grade?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:53 AM
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Ok I get that you think women are inferior but do you actually have any objective point? No. FSM don’t care about you and that seems to bother you. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:08 AM
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I mean your second paragraph is just announcing your opinion based on nothing and then just saying “any other things that determine FSM rank, which don’t support my argument, just don’t count, because reasons” that’s not an argument. Your last paragraph is totally false, men are so ignorant of the existence of unpopular fringe girls who are able to attract a HVM but are clueless in the FSM and the queen bees who may be single but rule the FSM. Please stop making up things based on your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:30 PM
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How can we have discussions when people just make up untruths like this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:24 PM
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Whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 11:10 PM
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Yes I am glad I was born in the West in a society that believes that Man is higher than animals and can control our baser nature. It’s a bit odd that you’re acting as though your view of men’s base nature is something to brag about, like apparently you’re all chomping at the bit to make us sex slaves and only by extreme self mastery do you hold back. That’s not really something to brag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 11:08 PM
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Guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 02:39 AM
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Please reread the masculinity tokens theory and then read my comments in light of that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 02:26 AM
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Do you even realize what thread we are on? Please keep mansplaining what we find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 02:00 AM
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Okay come on that’s too edgy It’s because the masculinity tokens, just encapsulated in one concept—hot fit soldier who might have survived a battle being sweet to a kitten. Remember the original? https://news.usni.org/2018/01/25/korean-war-marine-made-famous-kitten-photo-dies I promise you many dozens of women have swooned over that, and not for comedy reasons. They are not swooning over just any random guy feeding a kitten though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 01:58 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 01:46 AM
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Some of my friends subscribe to Instagram feeds of hot soldiers, sailors, fireman,and other fit masculine men holding kittens. They are not subscribing to feeds of average, schlubby, nerdy, effeminate men holding kittens. (Edit: in case my point wasn’t clear, the reason that they like the former is the men are masculine enough (have enough “tokens”) that liking the kitten is an adorable softness about an otherwise hot and rough man; if an unmasculine unattractive man sees this and thinks “all I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 01:23 AM
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Yes I see you have bought into the hype
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 12:48 AM
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Uh ok great I’m talking about what individuals need to live or die
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 12:30 AM
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If anything it’s less so than ever in history and mainstream think shames people for not leaving over minor infractions. See all internet advice about dating. Always going nuclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:02 PM
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Ok buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 08:00 PM
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Yes I agree with you which is why I’m saying that it’s already tough enough, but people are accelerating the descent of insanity by making it even bigger than it is, and comparing to other people’s imaginary sex lives. It’s self-shame. Like you fall and break your ankle, that already sucks. If you now also hate yourself and say you’re a failure moron and smack at the broken ankle out of anger, and say that you’ll never keep up with all the good-ankle normies, that’s just making it way worse and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:55 PM
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Here’s a question. When men see women here get annoyed with them, or with “most men,” or whatever, they accuse the women of being bitter and having been rejected by Chad one too many times. Or say that no woman actually happily married would post here or be annoyed by men. So it must be that they are lying about being happily married and are just bitter they aren’t with Chad. But why does no one consider it’s often the total opposite? People who in the past settled for terrible standards often b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:40 PM
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You tell them. And it’s not “simps” either some guys like to flex their cachet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:19 PM
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That comparison is a little less absurd than the food thing. But I have zero doubt that while sex is a huge powerful urge, the idea that you will GO INSANE and that you can’t function without it is a product of modern pornified society. Men are losing their minds believing that other guys are having all the sex while they miss out. Women are also having ONS and FWBs without enjoying them because they thought they could be happy acting like men. A lot of this is in our heads. Deciding to make you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:19 PM
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Well almost every man here uses the “it’s the gazelle’s fault” argument against women, I’m just hoping you’re consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:07 PM
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Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:50 PM
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There are many things that the lack of which cause people suffering, still I do not think they should be compared with things you need to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:49 PM
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So basically the argument that men here make every time a woman was in in a bad relationship or gets assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:46 PM
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Most relationships today are co-dependent?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:45 PM
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This. Some guys just want to reward women for being hot...the same way we all like to spoil our cute pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:42 PM
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Are you implying male sexual attraction is logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:37 PM
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Really??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:30 PM
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Sex is not a food equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:29 PM
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Your SMV is what it is. There’s no overestimating it if you can get that level of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:28 PM
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I don’t understand this, she “doesn’t mind?” So now the new standard is you’re basically a gold digger unless you actually turn down gifts that have already been given?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:31 AM
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you think that the guys quaking in their boots telling spooky stories of gold diggers over the campfire are the same men who actually have girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:29 AM
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I thought no one here consumed fiction because it’s stupid and pointless apparently. I don’t know what to tell you, only girls who are still teenagers are doing things like dumping guys for not being My Edward. We grow out of it, without starting a revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:26 AM
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I am aware of the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 11:21 PM
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Oh wow checkmate 🙄 I support men attracting a woman who loves his masculinity and self. Not okay with hate or using people in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 10:59 PM
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Literally everyone is claiming that. It’s not a strawman is this a joke? Again you cannot make a positive assertion you can only say “no that’s not it” you can’t tell me what it is with real examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 10:21 PM
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Don’t recall saying it was their job
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 10:10 PM
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Yes every personal example the moms taught them to be attractive, no not pussy slaying but yes attractive in terms of masculinity and not in terms of resources. Again please tell me what is the argument? Everyone can only tell me what it’s not. You were lied to by whom? And you were told to be a hot guy you had to beta out? Who said that? Who in real life outside of a bad romantic comedy (which women are always shamed about if they buy into it) told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 09:49 PM
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No speculating. I don’t believe, I know. Yes I grew up around many boys and I’ve spoken with them extensively and saw what their moms taught them. I’ve seen my friends raise their sons. In some ways they literally teach him how to be interesting to women. Moms don’t want their sons to be chumps. They don’t want them to be stolen away by some witchy daughter in law. They don’t want them to be massive players but they absolutely don’t want them to be soy boy beta cucks. Only the most extreme femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 09:34 PM
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They believe it because they don’t even observe women as people. No one told men being a Good Boy would make him the alpha stud. No one lied. Boys and men could have observed women with their eyes and brains, but they don’t see us as fully human so why would it even occur to them that we had complex selves and desires? They just projected some idealized stuff onto us and then lose their minds when we ended up being people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 09:24 PM
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I believe that men think they were lied to because they made up women to be angels in their heads. I don’t believe they were actually lied to. Disney and dumb romantic comedies don’t count since women saw those too. My brothers and cousins were not lied to. Actually the women in their lives were somewhat inadvertently red pilled. Yes women used to be educated about men’s ability to have sex without meaning or commitment. To an extent they still are. But it used to be that you had the entire cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 09:14 PM
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Where blame is due (they were lied to) Men make up in their heads that “society” told them women love Good Boys. Which is false, no one said that. But when women unequivocally get directly lied to for sex, by men, somehow blame isn’t due on the liars there. Male Hypoagency. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 08:56 PM
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