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“I like it when people construct their lives, opinions and concerns around me and my life.” Who tf doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:40 PM
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Men constantly talk about how they’re only attracted to attractive women under thirty which is kind of a narrow preference when you think about it and should be frightening to any woman who wishes to get married. It’s not like ya’ll are denying that you would no longer be attracted to a wife who naturally ages. I’ve seen so many men bitch about women not giving them the time of day but then act like average looking women or bigger women don’t count because they all want a 19 y/o Instagram model …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:36 PM
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Nah, I didn’t make it up. We broke up about eight years ago. If you can make statements about what counts as objective attractiveness so can I, killer. My fiancée has no issue sleeping with me and now I’m 10 years older. I’ve met plenty of objectively unattractive men who refuse to date average looking women. A once had 300 lb neckbeard tell me I had the body of an angel with the face of a ghoul unprompted. Most men who think women judge entirely on looks are projecting because they judge entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:29 AM
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lol, I did once and it was a terrible decision. He ended up thinking he deserved to date 19 year old models and refused to have sex with me after I turned 25. I found him attractive for his personality but objectively speaking he was like a 2.5 . He never ended up bagging hot barely legal women and he was obnoxious and impossible to build a relationship with. So yeah, it ain’t all about looks. It’s not that they don’t matter but putting zero emphasis on anything else isn’t helping you much I pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:14 AM
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I am boiler cap average and I’ve always known it. I’m also six feet tall which makes me seem more noticable and awkward. I never bothered trying to date up. I’m a woman. I always seeked out and was attracted to other average looking men. I still think there’s more to attraction than just looks but social media has fucked people’s perspective beyond any and all recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:07 AM
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Everybody needs to learn to treat everybody with more humanity. It’s about the connections we make, not about the power, not about the status, not about the stuff or the money. Yes, those things make life much, much more livable and can be necessary but they just aren’t the core of human social stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:42 PM
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It’s projection. These types claim women are treating them how they automatically treat women who aren’t trad wife personalities with instagram model looks. Like, look around killer, there’s plenty of perfectly decent looking women out there with contemporarily realistic personalities and backgrounds. I still think the types of women who grab their attention and about whom they fantasize are the often the bitchy hierarchical types who are obsessed with aesthetics, appearances and status curation…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:57 PM
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I would just never stop laughing because that’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:53 AM
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As a feminist I say things only because I think they’re true. As a truth teller I have like no friends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:51 AM
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I think this is indicative of most spaces where people are generally more frequently oppressed. There’s this overcompensation aspect where we put in considerable effort to stick it to the oppressor and there’s a point where it’s out of context and uncalled for like the time my trans friend told me I was a “nazi with white supremacist beauty standards” for saying offhand that I don’t like the way i look when overweight. It doesn’t mean oppressed groups shouldn’t get a say but it also means even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:50 AM
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People need to date other people organically. None of my long term relationships were from meeting someone on an app, they were from building chemistry with real people in real life and I promise you I’m no Sydney Sweeney. I prefer to share my life with a man who respects me and sees me as a whole person as well as values my intellect. I never gave a rat’s ass about looks. Long term relationships are about loving and respecting someone for far deeper reasons than their ability to play a role or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:11 AM
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I’m pretty liberal leaning but also very self reliant because most people just aren’t that interesting and are mostly annoying. I would be much more inclined to share my space and my thoughts if people weren’t so shallow and vapid and didn’t immediately jump to the opposite conclusion of the one I was clearly trying to discuss. Worse still, the more I say or do around them the more they misinterpret it to their benefit. It’s always been fairly obvious to me that men have a different view of a wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:38 PM
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I’ve seen them but that’s just internet slop. I’ve met plenty of pretty much average autistic men. Nazis are, interestingly, rather obsessed with conformity. Most autistic people just want routine and the freedom to focus on the things they actually like. Interacting with other people is difficult because we can sense every lie and the “necessity” of it is mind boggling. My autism was only well masked because all I did was read and wander the woods. I’m still like that but by the time I made it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:17 AM
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As an autistic woman I am routinely cringe and have made peace with it. I feel that authenticity is the most important aspect of self awareness and making space for oneself in the world. It probably is easier for us in this particular context but it’s partially because a woman’s misbehaviour is often viewed as harmless unless it outright questions or threatens patriarchal structure. Men misbehaving at all is an insult to that structure which is why it bothers people so much that some men wear sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:07 AM
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I mean you could read between the lines but I’m guessing you spend more time with a controller in hand than actually reading. Most of the men I’ve met who are into video games aren’t overly mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:22 PM
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No dude, dating one guy who punches walls and throws the television after spending 10 hours doing nothing but playing video games turned out to be more than enough for me. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:40 PM
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Okay, but why? What are the perceived behaviours that contribute to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:28 PM
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Okay then what is the reason a neurodivergent person should be screened out?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:25 PM
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There has to be a reason and in my experience and the experience of my neurodivergent friends that is usually the given reason. And yes, there is an implication that not conforming to a standard of behaviour is an issue for NTs. What’s wrong with a little creative, outside the box thinking or a sense of humour that’s a bit different? I couldn’t imagine feeling the need to “fit in”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:56 PM
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People have already stated multiple times in this thread that being neurodiverse was an undesirable trait. It’s pretty clear what the message is here. If it’s “undesirable” it is unwanted. I’m not sure how you can sit there and make the argument that this was never even implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:08 PM
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They didn’t have to. Deeming a person with ADHD undesirable already sends that message.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:55 PM
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That’s, frankly, disgusting. I’m no longer able to tolerate speaking with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:56 AM
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So we exist as a novelty to you? You cannot be this dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:49 AM
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It’s definitely a bug if the creature can barely breathe on its own. Society and humanity don’t improve by collapsing in on themselves and refusing the challenging aspects of having people who can’t or don’t conform to some cold, algorithmic standard of perfection. Your thought process suggests people like me shouldn’t procreate which means we inevitably cease to exist for the perceived “improvement” of humankind. That’s very basic eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:48 AM
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You are saying just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:44 AM
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Suggesting humanity would be better off without people like me is actually insufferable, abusive bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:40 AM
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Re read my edited comment. people who choose based merely on appearance are also eugenicist if they’re doing it with the full expectation that their children will also be beautiful (there is no guarantee of that regardless of what the parents look like). You aren’t helping society by mitigating all unknowns, you’re hindering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:40 AM
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That’s literally eugenics. You really want a future in which everyone thinks, feels and behaves precisely the same way? A future that enforces conformity to an even greater to degree instead of expanding inclusivity and understanding? When you start shrugging off this selecting breeding thinking as common sense you’re thinking like the people who bred pugs to be unable to breathe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:33 AM
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Well, I have ADHD for example and although it causes me to struggle in some areas of my life I do find it insulting to be referred to as “mental”. I’m not lazy, stupid, or crazy I just think differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:27 AM
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I’m sensing a whiff of borderline eugenics level perfectionism with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:15 AM
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Screening for neurodivergence? Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:51 AM
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I think a lot of this is subconscious. A lot of women only know what it’s like to be on the receiving end of gender based discrimination and fail to put themselves in men’s shoes. I still personally believe it’s much harder to have full personal autonomy as a female without facing considerable backlash and microaggressions on the daily. That said, though, I recently had a conversation with a fellow “feminist” who thought me dating a shorter guy was “ew”. I felt very uncomfortable and put off by …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:17 PM
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Well then what’s the point of talking about looks like they’re an objective standard if they’re obviously subjective in the first place? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:08 PM
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Well that’s my point, if looks were the be all and end all I’m sure older women in nursing homes wouldn’t get a second glance since as I’ve heard time and time again the best looking women are between 18 and 25. Wouldn’t that mean attraction is at least to some degree subjective? There’s far more to love or even just appreciate about a person than their appearance. As a six foot tall woman who was never that bad looking, probably like a 6.5 in my early twenties (I’m not a big fan of makeup, fill…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:06 PM
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Plenty of ugly people have children or both get married and have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:42 PM
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Not everyone cares about leaving a legacy. Some people, including myself and my fiancée (both of us are average looking and approaching middle age) have zero interest whatsoever in reproducing. We just want to have fun and create memories while we’re here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:16 PM
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Reproduction is not the entire point of almost any romantic relationship. Plenty of gay dudes got their wives pregnant multiple times throughout marriages they hated being in or that they routinely cheated in (said marriage). Getting hard or not isn’t always about visual appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:51 PM
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You need empathy, humanity, consideration, respect, humility, compassion the ability to compromise. Beauty makes it easier to get into relationships but the aforementioned attributes prolong them. Beauty does not last for a lifetime which flies in the face of the idea that a relationship should by your own logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:48 PM
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I’m honestly still over here in my corner wondering why nobody ever questions beauty being the driving force behind pairing up as if something so ethereal could ever maintain a life long relationship. If you want real connection and actual chemistry even if it isn’t a long term situation, you’re not going to get that by consistently going for the hottest person in the room. This applies to both men and women. Social media lies to you and corporations want you to feel both unattractive and entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:30 PM
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When you’re so dumb that the concept of being attracted to anyone who doesn’t conform in all ways to beauty standards is all you can think of as “beautiful” then you’re going to attract the types who want access to the money needed to continuously stay beautiful. Men can’t have it both ways. If you want a humble partner you can’t expect het to look like a porn star or Instagram model. It just doesn’t work that way. A lot of guys claim they hate fake tans and lip injections and yet only want to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:15 PM
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I genuinely only vibe with someone sexually or romantically if there is chemistry or emotional/intellectual compatibility. Looks, status and money matter a lot less to me than good character and enjoyable personality. It’s ridiculous how often I get told I must be lying. My last major crush had no car, couldn’t be described as an Adonis and lived in his mother’s basement but we had real chemistry and he had good attitudes about women and the right politics to make us compatible. He was also just…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 09:33 PM
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Most of it is noise. I don’t claim not to be a feminist but I know a true red flag when I see one. Most of this narrative is noise because human beings are flawed, almost all shit at monogamy, and generally don’t realize that chemistry is as necessary as it is fleeting. Playing up the appearances of relationships is one way to conceptualize them, or you can just see that truth is often contextual and complicated and not at all as harsh or brutal as a lot of people here think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:39 AM
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Because the body is a part of the expression of fashion since fashion and the body are both considered art. Contextualizing less clothed bodies only within the confines of advertising sex is pretty idiotic. Is a man with his shirt off begging for for sexual attention? Cheeseburgers?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:42 AM
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Existing only to be objectified or treated with contempt is not exactly an existence any of us asked for. Being treated like all that matters is your looks, your holes, your womb, your lack of intelligence and lack of spine all your life is not exactly encouraging. Yes, men get treated with contempt all the time, but not for being men. You are allowed to exist as a whole, flawed creature, we are not. You think it’s easier for us just because men want to fuck is? There is no simpler social equati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:29 AM
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I think it’s important to remember that the people around you are individuals before they are men or women. Our gender is not our sole defining characteristic and it’s far from being able to make us so different from one another that we can’t fathom learning from each other, trusting each other or at least not having weird expectations of each other. Average people, men and women, get married or involved all the time. When you start getting heavily influenced by internet psychopathology it’s ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:20 AM
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Women deserve to have careers, stability and finances that drive them and their lives in the same way men do. I mean a generally never gave a rats ass what my partner did as long as he had a job because I agree that a career isn’t a persons whole personality. But if a man expects to both have a career and be loved for who he is a woman has every right to expect the same. We’re people and we’re people who think a lot like you and have a lot of the same insecurities, needs, desires and goals. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:48 PM
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People generally don’t think logically, they think with their emotions, especially when it comes to relationships. Men and women both. Looking past things like looks and status can improve the romantic relationships we have but we build walls to try to explain away why this behaviour is “logical and fair”. Authenticity is important. When people think they need to follow social rules about who they are and how they present to the world they lie to themselves and their partners which is a huge rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:36 PM
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As a feminist, abuse of a male partner is still abuse. Full stop. No argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:00 AM
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I put my best foot forward to understand the male perspective only when that perspective is not totally rooted in misogyny. I see about fifty posts from this group a day regarding dating and how women have it easier. The answer to that is just that dating is hard, for both genders (well, all genders, realistically speaking). We may have it easier in terms of people wanting to “date” us but typically it’s just the usual muck and mire of wading through dudes who just want to pump and dump. Men mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:07 PM
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It’s definitely a calming realization to know that looks are pretty subjective for most people and that a lot of people just feel bitter about being rejected. Modern product/corporate driven beauty standards for both men and women contribute to collective insecurity as well. I find developing a sense of contentedness with what I already have going for me is a much healthier mindset to have but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:14 PM
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As a final point, I do notice the most average people seem to want the most attractive partner. It feels like projection when men claim women behave this way but some of the most unattractive dudes I’ve ever met won’t settle for anything less than a supermodel. Some of the dudes I was attracted to immediately became unattractive when they start to pick apart my appearance, comparing me to a porn star or celebrity. The entitlement is absurd. My full time job isn’t my appearance and that expectati…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:59 PM
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Maybe. I mean I’m kind of a chubby chaser, don’t mind balding dudes and go after (went after) the most average of the average. I’m not even really that attracted to conventionally good looking guys. The narrative appears to be these men never get attention so colour me confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:21 PM
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I mean that might have something to do with the overwhelming narrative that if we don’t get married young we won’t get married at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:39 PM
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Yeah “bla bla bla you’re not a likeable person bla bla”. I do my best to be a good person and work hard to be decent at life in general but, I mean, some rando on the internet probably knows more about me than I know about myself, right? Doesn’t matter. I’ve had and an am in a relationship that have are lasting long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:29 PM
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Who’s ego wouldn’t be boosted by someone finding them attractive? I’d say that’s pretty normal. Not only did I mention I don’t always expect men to do all the work but I conceded that even if I’m not interested I’m still flattered. I’m confused, do you hate when we react rudely and negatively in that situation or when we’re nice about it? Any time I’ve done the work to show a man I’m interested he loses interest in me faster than if he just asked me out himself. Couldn’t tell you why it just app…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 12:50 PM
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So you’re saying tall women have to be exceedingly thin to be attractive??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:15 PM
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No, it’s genetic. My favourite hobby is literally camping lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:33 PM
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Did you not read the last sentence of my last comment? I have tried. It ends poorly. Average men think I’m fucking with them and really goof looking dudes would just laugh me into oblivion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:13 PM
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I’d just like to be approached at all the way I see my shorter counterparts get approached. I don’t even get DMs on any social media. The few times I did get hit on by men I wasn’t interested in I was still genuinely flattered. All I’m trying to say is that this obsession with having more than someone else (looks included) or trying exclusively to only date people who do appears to affect everybody. This concept that women only like certain types of men have poisoned men’s minds enough that when…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:59 PM
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40-33-41, 5’11”. Size 14. Pear shaped. Big ass and thighs. Irish pale. Green eyes. No fake tan or nail extensions. Hair about shoulder length, brunette and naturally wavy if a bit difficult to style due to high porosity and varying curl types. Small nose, hooded eyes and a very slightly square chin. Lips pretty shapely and well defined but not huge. I do have a slightly wide and full face, though. When I look in the mirror I don’t see an ugly woman. So I’m not really getting why I’ve become invi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:50 PM
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I just think it’s pretty interesting that all the average men I went for barely wanted to give me the time of day and yet moan about being single. Not everyone is going to bag a hottie. This should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:56 PM
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I’m sure it feels that way in some weird twist of insecure perception. Being six feet tall is part of the problem I always had. A lot of men barely even code me as female even though I don’t have particularly masculine traits other than height. I have great ass and curves. I’ve always been attracted to average dudes. One I’ve never been able to get out of my mind for example, chose his LD girlfriend who lives in an entirely different country over me despite there being obvious chemistry between …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:52 PM
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“Gaining a lot of weight” appears to be pretty relative, though. I’m six feet tall and a size 14. I don’t look massive in a mirror or in front of a camera. I see a lot of men seeing a celebrity woman go up like one dress size and loudly proclaim she’s “fat”. Being tall also appears to be a major turn off to men when you’re a woman. So all you’re really saying is that all anyone cares about is appearances and resources whether you’re a man or a woman. Really, neither of us has it worse in terms o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:41 PM
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You could replace the word “women” with “men” here and it would still apply. I have a perfectly decent body and face but because I haven’t had any plastic surgery or fillers people act like I don’t exist because I don’t look like what men see on social media every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:19 PM
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I suppose that explains why a large number of completely non objectively attractive people still find partners and get married. It’s not only not all about looks but looks are a subjective concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 07:25 AM
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Attractiveness isn’t objective
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:52 AM
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I’m horny as all get out but I’m too awkward to know how to seduce someone without them doing all the work. I have been called creepy for being too direct and I’ve been turned down. To be fair, when I was single, I was usually horny towards specific men and sometimes those men were taken so it was inappropriate for me to say anything about it in the first place. It’s kinda hard on the ego for both men and women who are average looking to know that their seduction attempts will be turned down a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:33 AM
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Men or women who don’t play the female conformity game in order to be part of the group. See also; authentic women. I also don’t really get along with men because most of them are shits. So that’s fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:53 PM
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When I was single I threw the ball so far into their court it was basically sitting in the net and they still didn’t get it. The times I went for it myself they got bored much quicker because there was no thrill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:52 PM
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We’re just as horny honestly we just go about it different ways. The definition to sex and sexuality isn’t confined to how much and how often you want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:28 PM
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I am not because I don’t really judge people on their looks. I’m more about chemistry, personality and character. It’s actually pretty foreign to my mindset to only value someone for their appearance or to screen based on appearance. Looks make up maybe 10% of who a person actually is. I know it’s not currently in fashion to think the way I do but I really don’t care. What makes any relationship last doesn’t have anything to do with how hot someone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:39 AM
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I just think that appreciating someone for who and what they actually are is more important than appreciating them for what they look like. Not getting injections and plastic surgery on top spending insane amounts of money on clothing is arguably also an aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:28 AM
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Imagine thinking partying is that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:54 PM
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No I go out to places or at least I used to but I’m old now so I tend to prefer peaceful things like camping and reading. My point was that if all you care about is everything and everyone being beautiful you likely lack depth and if you have depth and still think this way then you’re immature. Nothing wrong with appreciating beauty but fully expecting other people to put make being attractive a full time job is gross for so many, many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:18 PM
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I don’t get why aesthetics are so goddamn important these days. If someone is clean and put together than who gaf? You’re really building your entire life on how pretty your life and the people in it are? Boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:14 AM
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I like dick and sometimes when they’re actually in love with you and not just using you they’re very thoughtful creatures. But I got lucky ish. Generally speaking I am still wary of men and was very aware them when young. I pissed off more than a few men for playing them at their own game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:32 AM
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I would have had kids if the options weren’t so bleak. I can barely afford to keep a roof over my head let alone bring kids into the mix. Had anything been done about climate change, were there affordable daycare options, were men more trustworthy about becoming fathers even when they don’t want to be maybe I’d have made a different choice. There isn’t enough support to have a bunch of kids and until that support is societally instilled women should not be expected to have them. It’s very simple…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:33 PM
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Weird because I have. It’s almost like everyone’s lived experiences is different. I had a boyfriend once who quit his management job to work at NYF part time and while I was working full time as a nurses aide he fully demanded I do all the housework because he wanted a “traditional” woman. He now lives in the other side of the country. Good riddance. And honestly if nothings getting done and y’all like living in dirt what exactly does that say about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:10 AM
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I think that’s perfectly decent reasoning. It’s weird how men don’t think we realize that they’re trying to trick us into doing the cleaning anyway just because “they don’t want to hear nagging” even though they’ll bitch about how dirty the house is if it isn’t done. That’s such a big insult to my intelligence that, yes, I have dumped men over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:46 PM
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As a woman I see exactly what you’re saying here but ( and this is off topic) do get frustrated with both sides of the coin in both men and women. Men actually seem to prefer conformity in women and women are punished by both other women and men for not fitting in appropriately. I’ve never conformed to anything as it’s suggested or prescribed and despite me being very friendly and considerate I get no invitations to come hang out with the girls because I don’t respect or care about invisible hie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:39 PM
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I agree with that and know all of those things. What I’m saying is when I engaged in that behaviour it was dangerous because men insisted on making it dangerous. Why do you think so many people, men and women, don’t care when sex workers are targets for murder or abuse? Why do you think no one seems to care when OF models are threatened? Because they will put us in our place by any means necessary and do not view a woman’s life as having anywhere near the importance of a man’s. I don’t agree tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:19 PM
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I never found it creepy I just turned them down and they got mad at me for it or would not stop trying as if my no meant nothing. I have also been considered “creepy” for asking a dude out or showing interest in one who wasn’t attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:14 PM
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I love sex but I also know how men often treat women who are open about their sexuality. They still see us as depreciable objects and refuse to accept that we are whole human beings to the same degree they are, therefore we are not entitled to be as openly sexual as they are or we get punished for it. I used to be get r*** threats when I tried to be open about being slutty just because I chose who I slept with and didn’t fuck them. They want access to sex but expect all women to not really like …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:08 PM
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Why do you think unattractive women don’t experience the same rejection as unattractive men? I’ve been told I look like a horses ass, spit on, physically attacked by other women for being “ugly” in their own words and mock dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:21 AM
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Do you honestly believe I’ve never experienced rejection? Never been told I was worth less than nothing for not being attractive enough? Have you considered what YOU experience to be more about who YOU are and not what you are? I’m legitimately engaged to a line cook who is the same height as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:55 AM
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As a woman who has always been average looking I have never been given a considerable amount of consideration or attention. It is not only men who have to deal with this. I know plenty of below average looking women who have been that way even in their twenties who only wish they could get the respect and attention they saw their attractive peers receive. I have never chosen men based entirely on looks or income my only standards have been that they treat me well and have a job. My point of view…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:30 AM
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No. We like confident yet kind and considerate men who are also more interesting than their video game or weed hobby. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:42 AM
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We have more options but most of those options suck. No we do not want someone to put in a bunch of pretend effort so they can sleep with us, ghost us and then call us insane for calling them out on it. It is a compliment to be wanted for who we are, not how fuckable we are. Men need to be work on who they are, not what they are if they want more attention. Life is not only about looks, money and resources especially when talking about relationships. If you want to be wanted be a goid person who…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:35 AM
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Does body count or the ability to get laid matter more? You can’t have it both ways. We get aroused when chemistry is there. Stop projecting about looks and income. It’s easy to state that in a tinder profile, that doesn’t make it reality. Be a human being who genuinely cares outside of messaging on an app and you’ll make headway. Get to know the women in your life and stop messaging random women you don’t know or instragram models. It’s not the transactional aspect that makes you worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:23 AM
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I like most of them. I’m not attracted to most of that number. I find most women care too much about interactional/social conformity which puts a barrier up between my being able to get along with them long term. I don’t care about any of your heirarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:40 AM
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Honestly if you could see what happens inside my brain you’d understand that for a lot of us our sexuality ain’t that different (I can’t be the only one). We are more selective. Likely partially for biological reasons but in large part because of social reasons. Nobody treats a woman who is sexually free well. We don’t get a lot of focus because people think our sexuality is a mystery. But really we just want the same importance as the male orgasm. I have three major issues with male sexuality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:58 AM
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Sometimes I just wish people would stop blindly holding on to looks and wealth without nuance. If you think the world lacks nuance you need to socialize more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:07 PM
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A bit tangential, but: It’s strange to me that men hate being forced to cope but that women have been made to cope for all eternity. Can’t have sex with who you want because men decide they should make that decision for you? Cope. Aren’t attractive because “biodeterminism” or bad genetics or whatever. Cope. Being told we can’t attract partners after 35. Cope. Not wanting to be reduced to sexual and reproductive viability. Gotta just cope. Trying to raise a child after a man left? Cope. But it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:20 PM
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I’m saying instead of depending on statistics for everything and basically dismissing whole swathes of the human population in favour of them it might do well for men or women to actually get to know one another. Chemistry can change our initial view of someone and good character can alter the way we visually perceive someone\help to seriously downplay flaws. I’m just saying that just because someone is a man OR a woman doesn’t mean they fit into a neat and tidy box of math.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:48 PM
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Sure but it’s pretty unlikely that this is always the case. We don’t all have to act, behave or have preferences with what aligns with gender expectations and in many cases we don’t. You don’t have to be trans to not perfectly fit the concept of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:44 PM
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Yes but it’s not the only thing that counts because if it were plenty of people would never get laid or be in relationships. Social media has placed such significant emphasis on looks that society can’t imagine that anything else matters as if the only reason people get married is because they’re hot and rich. Studies can prove one thing in specific contexts but that’s not taking the wholeness of actual reality into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:21 PM
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Also isn’t it a bit of a logic flaw to piss and moan about women not giving virgins a chance and then outright claiming all women won’t sleep with virgins? How do young men ever become non virgins if almost none of us give them a chance? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:55 PM
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It just means putting yourself out there emotionally. You can’t ever be truly intimate with someone who just doesn’t ever discuss how they truly feel about the relationship or their moral compass or basically anything. Many of my previous relationships were with men who used stonewalling after a fight instead of talking about it when they were otherwise decent partners. I, for one, think it’s more courageous to cry and talk about your feelings. I think men who don’t because they’re afraid of how…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:51 PM
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I’m fairly certain it’s pretty realistic to look at certain character traits as not necessarily gendered. I’m pretty mid but have never had an issue finding a LTR. I work with a lot of very attractive women and none of the men I work with have given a rat’s ass when they cried. Believe it or not, this chronically online view about looks and gender simply isn’t how it works in the real world especially outside of the big cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:10 PM
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Generally, unintelligent people (which is most people) can’t decipher subtleties or subtext very easily. Confidence is very attractive in both genders, the difference is posturing, ego, cruelty and narcissism. There’s a difference between having a healthy sense of self and thinking you’re better than everybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:27 PM
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I never really minded being the more experienced one. Even took a couple “virginities”. I think in general people are put off by vulnerability whether it comes from men or women. As a society we only find vulnerability attractive in adult, sexually viable, women which is kind of concerning when you think about it. We expect vulnerability from children. But I am telling you, nobody cares if I cry when I’m sad or tell a deep secret. In fact I get mocked or ignored for it. People are obsessed with …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:22 PM
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I don’t perceive their value as any different and that’s the genuine truth. I think everyone has inherent worth and it’s totally fine if you disagree but I promise you I’m not being disingenuous. What I mean is, no matter what these guys look like they might feel uncomfortable or creeped out by the fact that I’m having thoughts like this especially if they aren’t attracted to me (I’m pretty mid and over 35) which is very much a possibility or, say, one of us isn’t single, then it isn’t appropria…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:48 PM
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Doesn’t bother me much. Or at least not now. When I was younger I dated a guy who was very clearly in the closet and what felt insulting to me was that there was the chance he could be stringing me along or might not be as attracted to me as he claimed. In some ways I thought it was about me when it really wasn’t at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:17 PM
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It’s not so much embarrassment about the person himself for me, it’s more embarrassment about them figuring out what kind of thoughts I’ve been having. Which has happened to me once. Usually people think you’re creepers if that gets out no matter what gender you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:14 PM
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It is in my fairy tale opinion that these people are kinda the people we’re not just biologically being pushed towards but also one of life’s great hints. Good chemistry and/or good character makes some truly sexy company, long term or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:44 AM
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It happens to me all the time, normally when I have some form of interactive, intellectual or humor related chemistry with a dude, not just on sight. As a result of this, most of the men I’ve lusted after absolutely have not fit conventional standards. Maybe one or two of them have fit those standards but mostly by chance. I don’t really tell them or make it clear because it comes off as kind of too direct and the only time I ever did make it clear it kinda freaked out the dude. I think I was ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:32 PM
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As a woman, I don’t really understand it either unless you have extremely polarizing features, genuine health issues or require reconstructive surgery or are trans. Doing it for the sake of it feels like the underlying implication is there’s only one way to look beautiful that every modern woman seeks which doesn’t really feel like beauty to me if there’s not much variation. And what’s with the need to look young if we’re not comfortable with men dating/seeking younger women? I don’t understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:19 PM
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When you go for the most insecure women who often also happen to often be the ones that look the hottest because they’re so insecure in the first place and overcompensating, this is where you end up. Sometimes I think a lot of the problems men have would be alleviated by not always going for the hottest woman in the room. This absolutely isn’t to say that beautiful women are always manipulative but they often weren’t very kind or good people at least anecdotally. If you want the most fulfilling …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:41 PM
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We do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:19 AM
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Nothing I said was “barely hinged”. It makes perfect sense. What’s unhinged is acting like everybody wants exactly the same thing out of life and that everyone thinks looks and money make people superior. What’s unhinged is acting like character doesn’t even factor in anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:12 PM
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Regardless, you shoved your own frame of reference on to mine assuming that’s how every single person on the planet sees it. You are the issue jn this interaction and I’m officially done giving a damn about how badly you need to feel superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:13 PM
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Assuming that I don’t actually love or appreciate my partner and obviously had to have “settled”. I was in two long term relationships before this. One of which was a man a foot shorter than me. The other one was taller than me but not conventionally attractive. None of that ever mattered to me. Neither of them had good paying jobs. They just developed addictions and bad attitudes and were emotionally abusive despite the fact that I kept giving those relationships decent chances because I felt t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:00 PM
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You keep putting words in my mouth. You’re acting like I had no real rights to ask for anything because I’m not a goddamn Instagram model. You’re a misogynist. My value does not exist only in relation to my looks. All I asked for even when I was in my twenties was for my partner to have a job (any job) and to enjoy the outdoors. I still got endless overtly sexual messages and harassment regardless. Did you purposely ignore that the man shooting out of his league comment was an example or are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:39 PM
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Is it? I was describing what it was like when I was dating and when describing the average man with the average income I was making a point about these types of men shooting above their league and then acting like the types of women who would give them the time of day were beneath them. I’m not really sure how that wasn’t clear as day. I’m not sure why you’d want to date a high maintainence woman when you have no money just for the fact that it makes your dick hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:24 PM
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I haven’t dated in six years because I’m not single but at that time I only wanted my potential partner to have a job and enjoy the outdoors as much me. I have never shot above my league nor dated based on looks. I prefer chemistry, compatibility, character and personality. Always have. And I can guarantee you the overtly sexual messages were constant and finding genuine ones was much rarer. When I made the comment about a man having a limited income and being average looking I was making the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:01 PM
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Nope. I know I’m older, a little chubby and refuse to use tanning products so I’m probably like a six. I’m not actually that physically unattractive, just taller and uninterested in hair and makeup because I like my face the way it is. My partner of six years is a line cook and used to weight like 300lbs. His body still has flaws as a result of years of excess weight. But I don’t give a fuck about it because I like who he is as a person. All of my previous partners were not exactly lookers. I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:39 PM
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Interesting. Because what I see is men acting like there is no reason to date but to have a nuclear fifties style family so they then act as if women over thirty belong in nursing homes and since they’re hoping to find a woman to spend the rest of their lives with they better look like Sydney Sweeney. And if you aren’t 23 and don’t look like Sydney Sweeney you get treated like your only purpose is to be used as a sex toy. And then men get butthurt when they can’t find matches. Because we don’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:31 PM
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Nah this smacks of woman having any standards at all as having “unreasonable expectations” where as men, including single men with kids, have totally normal “standards”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:18 PM
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If you keep repeating it over and over again I guess it’s easier to convince yourself it’s true. Your last paragraph reads as if you actually want all women to think this way for the sake of conformity and to reaffirm your world view. Yes, most people want to be with someone who is decent looking and has a job. Chemistry is an interesting thing, though, and looks, height and money are not all that factors into it. I chose my partner who is a line cook six years ago because I loved his character,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:39 PM
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No one is arguing women get more options but we keep saying quantity is not the same as quality and it’s like no one is actually listening. I don’t want to date the guy who asked me with zero preamble if I’d go in a date with him, his wife and his other girlfriend. I don’t want to date the guy who asks how good I am at sucking dick. I don’t want to date the guy who tries to say im ugly but he’d “give me a chance”…ad nauseum. If you want dating to be easier on men you need to hold eachother to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:11 PM
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Porn as I understand is just to sort of get off when your partner isn’t around. I only take it personally when it becomes a replacement or preferable to actual physical intimacy with one’s partner. Without a partner the only issues I consistently see with it is that if focuses on male pleasure almost exclusively and that it creates absolutely unrealistic expectations about what women are supposed to look like. Apparently, our tits are supposed to be huge, pert and not shift when we’re laying dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:30 AM
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That is not what I’ve seen. I have never preferred or chosen men based on wealth or appearance and most of the men I see women end up with are just regular average Joes. The whole world doesn’t exist in Florida, LA and New York.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:59 PM
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You mean the mothers in law? Which women. If you’re thinking a lot of these women are doing it by pure choice and not cultural influence I’m afraid you may just be living in rainbow unicorn land.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:08 PM
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Is it also bullshit that men don’t like women who aren’t as thin as possible? Is it bullshit that a man could be interested in a woman with small boobs? Or an older one? It legit doesn’t really matter unless you exist on extreme ends of either spectrum. Some people just like to feel important. Huge penises are uncomfortable for a lot of women, myself included. Big tits and big dicks in a partner make people feel special. All that ever matters at the end of the day is character.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:09 AM
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You haven’t noticed the way men comment about younger women vs older? They always act way more excited about younger women’s bodies and often say really awful things about any woman over thirty. When someone is pursuing you really hard, speaking as a woman, you feel special. Now that I’m over thirty I’m basically invisible and when I was briefly single at 31 men simply did not put as much effort in. If somebody isn’t bothering to make me feel special for me and not just to get laid then it isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:02 AM
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A number of factors but I think the most obvious one is that men make it very clear that if they can pull a younger woman, they will. The preference is obvious and the shallowness of a lot of men can be very obvious. For some reason we barely seem to matter more than appearance. This isn’t to say that these women have no choice but someone with more money who can appear more gentlemanly can seem like a better deal until they realize later on that this guy will just trade them in for a younger mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:58 AM
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We could discuss all the women in arranged marriages often with older men who absolutely do not choose their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:39 AM
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Apparently we need to choose better but give more men a chance but not have a high body count but not be so stuck up. It’s legitimately psychosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:52 AM
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There is nothing more situationally vibrant than the thrill of mutual attraction born of true chemistry. Everybody likes being desirable. I often miss being desirable but that doesn’t matter as much as two souls truly seeing and appreciating the best in each other. That’s what fires my loins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:04 AM
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