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Question For WomenIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:29 PM
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DebateIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:12 PM
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DebateIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:30 AM
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Question For WomenIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:57 PM
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DebateIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:56 PM
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Icy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:00 PM
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Icy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:03 AM
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Icy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:50 PM
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DebateIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:42 AM
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DebateIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:43 PM
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DebateIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:37 PM
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DebateIcy_Golf2703/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:26 PM
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I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:18 PM
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I am taking a look at other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:13 PM
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Nice try - I don't let you get away with that. The next level is women need to "check their privilege" . People in relationships have easier lives than single people. Young women are 2x more likely to be in a relationship, are benefit from this in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:09 PM
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But the girls there arent taller than average. Only the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:59 PM
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There are no alot of men who wouldn't date a taller woman, it's no where close to null. The average man is shorter than the average supermodel, you think he wouldn't date them? Countries in Asia with men where the average height is like 5 ft 6 worship women with beauty standards of northern European who are taller than them. The problem is women's preferences is almost always something that takes more effort and only a small percentage of men can achieve, whereas men's preferences is more access…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:57 PM
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But all women choose to not wear makeup and men can't choose to be taller than you. Men give women an easier option to be attractive and women tell them they are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:39 PM
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I used to walk outside an expensive club downtown with 10+ men with their dates and despite being 5ft 8, I was noticeably shorter than every shorter than every man with their date. This was I the most expensive part of town in a major city, and it is clear to me I maybe around average height, but I'm not around average height for men who have attractive girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:31 PM
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They are able to notice makeup, and even if they weren't, they are saying the woman who is wearing unnoticeable makeup is more attractive than any woman wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:26 PM
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In marriage visas, you go through a interview process where you are asked questions about each other and required to provide proof such as messages, photos, communication, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:30 PM
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They would eventually if they got married and a visa... it doesnt apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:50 PM
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There are at least twice as many sexless man than sexless women. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:47 PM
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The same prove of relationship you need that already exist in marriage visas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:44 PM
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Thanks for proving you know nothing about visas or immigration. A immigrant could be a chef and educated, but that job wouldn't qualify for immigration like a doctor. Doesn't mean they are automatically poor uneducated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:43 PM
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That's not how that works. Immigration usually dominate specific sectors, and again, and extra few million immigrants wouldn't hurt the job market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:41 PM
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It wouldn't be sizeable. Less than 5% of the 3rd world could supply every single man in the 1st world with a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:32 PM
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Try again. they do, because they can have a college degree and still not be considered "skilled labor" to sponsor a visa. I promise I know more about economics than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:31 PM
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That was my 1st response. Having a relationship where you are allowed to leave anytime isn't trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:23 PM
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The men in a different country dont control their women's choice to date someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:22 PM
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What does this have to do with anything? Do you have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:21 PM
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There is also the fact that if you adjust the wage gap of young men and women to the relationship gap and average money saved by being in a relationship, young women have more income because they share expenses with their partner. And I can name many other social and psychological advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:20 PM
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Across
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:18 PM
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So if a Filipino person dates and marries a usa citizen, gets a 10x salary, they can move back to the Philippines together and retire early.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:18 PM
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4b
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:15 PM
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No, but women should in their words "check their privilege" to the massive quality of life difference between men without a sex life and women with a sex life, which they aren't doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:14 PM
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It wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:12 PM
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Because just like in the US, in countries like the Philippines educated middle class people are complaining about the economy and rising housing cost. Difference is, if they marry an American and make a USA salary, they would be able to afford a house in the Philippines.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:12 PM
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No, if they have access to dating apps there would be 20x more women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:07 PM
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Except she could be college educated and middle class in her own country like the scenario I laid out. Stop assuming everyone that isn't from your country is poor and dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:06 PM
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It isn't equal though, twice as many young men are single. This would even out the playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:05 PM
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The break up would be handled in a similar way it is already handled with spousal visa with a breakup. Same with abuse. I believe a spouse gets a temporary visa to get away from an abusive partner. Not really. Only 15% live in the 1st world. There wouldnt be a noticeable drop if we took say hundred million women out of south east Asia, South America, and Africa when there are billions. Again it wouldn't be a noticeable trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:02 PM
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That would be the 1st world women saying fuck those men. It's not 1st world men's fault that they are attracted to women from Thailand, Philippines, Columbia, and Venezuela, but 1st world women are only attracted to men from the "good countries" and have a certain amount of privilege and social status. What's stopping them is the sheer number. If there are 20x more women than men they wouldn't be able to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:55 PM
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But this would be more official than international dating sites. I wouldn't exclude men in those countries, the American women would. They barely want American men, much less men from countries where the average height is 5 ft 5 and average income is $500 usd a month. But if a woman want to do the same with a boyfriend visa she would be allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:50 PM
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There are plenty of visa programs where they wouldnt have to date, this is just giving them an extra option instead of the lottery based visa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 PM
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It's not. It has to be some negative outcome for it to be trafficking, not a consensual relationship. It's not about entitlement to sex, from the government's that complain about birth rates deckine perspective it would be a smart thing to do. If she wants to break up she can, so not trafficking. This aspect of women's opinion is pretty mainstream to feminists in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:45 PM
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But its objectively a worse dating market for men considered how much more unsuccessful they are. And in my scenario, men in the US would be selected for their looks in money by say, Southeast asian women over Southeast asian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:38 PM
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No im not proving your point. My point is women refuse to "check their privilege" on these advantages. In other words, Idk that women are picky and it's easy to be an unattractive woman. I care that they won't acknowledge they have easier lives because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:28 PM
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It's not being deprived, it's the uneven opportunity. A basic example is height. A woman can be as tall as Kendell Jenner or short as Jenna Ortega and be considered one of the most attractive women in the world. A man has to be tall to be as attractive as these women. The standards of beauty for young women are objectively easier to fit in to than for men, and they in turn are significantly more likely to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:09 PM
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Something that is currently happening to men and not being addressed vs something that happened to women in the past and is constantly being addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:39 PM
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Yes so can men. But young men are twice as likely to be single than women and women are significantly more likely to have kids than men, which proves their is some truth to the "80-20" rule. As for the privilege that comes with that, if you simply adjust the wage gap of young men and women to thae relationship gap, young women make more money than young men not because they earned it, but because they are more likely to be in a relationship and have some of their expenses paid by their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:55 PM
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This isn't comparable to the "80-20" or unjust dating rule you are saying men complain about. The problem is women refuse to "check their privilege" when it comes to the massive social, financial, and Psychological advantages they have over men because their advantages dating. The same advantages they do acknowledge when it comes to telling LGBT they aren't allowed to marry or women "just dont have sex" if you don't want to get pregnant and banning abortion. They consider these things completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:25 PM
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ad hominem circumstantial argument is a sign of low intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:12 AM
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That's why 50-50 isn't 50-50, it's actually 39-39 statistically on average. You save a significant amount of money by being in a relationship a splitting resources over if you were single. Not to mention having a person chef to cook for you, chauffeur to drive you places, and maid to clean up your home. All things a single person has to do by themselves. Women who act like giving labor is the most traumatic experience are just looking for a reason for relationships to not be 50-50.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:46 AM
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For one person 3 years isnt a big difference. For the entirety of women at age 20 to already be dating 23 year old guys is a big difference, especially when the men that age are dating younger. Pair this with the fact that over 60% of men are single and 30% of women, they are clearly only dating the most successful guys while most are single. Better at life meaning all of the above overall. They might make more money, be in better shape, better looking, smarter, proportionally taller, more educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:27 PM
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Obviously im talking about age 15+ where people are dating. Also, the average 20 year old woman dates a 23 year old man, while the average 20 year old man dates a 19 year old woman. So it isnt some innocent small difference; it's men having to be "better at life" than women to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:04 PM
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The average age gap being 2-3 years is INSANE, considering you spend that first decades of your life in school with people the same age as you, and this is one of the most common places to meet a partner. It means if men and women were all home schooled, women would be dating men on average 7-8 years older. Ridiculous. Over 60% of young men under 30 are single compared to 30% of women so no, it isnt instathots. And most devastating, women swipe positively to around 5% of men on dating apps compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:42 PM
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You won't get "milked" if you don't foolishly throw money at gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:30 PM
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I'm talking about the most popular media, you are cherrypicking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:26 PM
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Ok? There is a non sexual side to television, doesn't mean Euphoria isn't sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:05 PM
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Yes, guess by Charlie xcx totally isnt sexual /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:03 PM
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Lol google images filter is out sexual media. Embarrassing for you; if you don't see sexual themes in fashion idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:00 PM
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Because I think it makes it hard for men to interact with women without being perceived as a creep because most of women's hobbies revolve around sex. Women then complain about men's lack of personality, when if they would get shamed if they acted like women as a straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:55 PM
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I thought this was sarcasm. Makeup, fashion and pop music are sexual, at least in what's most popular for women to consume. Most of fashion is about "looking sexy".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:43 PM
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Swipe Data
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:49 PM
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95% of women pass on men compared to around 47% of men with women according to dating app swipe data. Young men are twice as likely to be single than young women. Why should Men waste their time with women they have a 95% chance of being unsuccessful with when they can go to another country and have a better chance of finding a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:29 PM
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It's not the main pro its one of the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:41 PM
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What's wrong with that phrase? No one says you are better than these women; it's an objective fact that some countries provide more opportunities than others. Nationality is apart of identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:40 PM
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See comment: You are aware there are colleges in "poorer" countries right. College educated Nurses, Doctors, and businesses women in "poorer" countries. Alot of say nurse in the Philippines have good careers and are educated, but if they married an American and became a nurse in the US they could make even more. This is one reason foreigners are so appealing to them. But you make it seem like they are living in some hut starving to death and some man dangled a nickel in front of her to date them…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:50 PM
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You are aware there are colleges in "poorer" countries right. College educated Nurses, Doctors, and businesses women in "poorer" countries. Alot of say nurse in the Philippines have good careers and are educated, but if they married an American and became a nurse in the US they could make even more. This is one reason foreigners are so appealing to them. But you make it seem like they are living in some hut starving to death and some man dangled a nickel in front of her to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:17 PM
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Why Isn't the woman who loves a man for being 6ft 5 and muscular "pretending to love him for his resources"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:13 PM
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This is extremely ignorant to assume all women not from your country are poor and uneducated. They can be college educated and middle class and still be attracted to the lure of a foreigner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:12 PM
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This is kinda an example of it being looked down upon. If a 6 ft 5 man uses his height, no one says "she only wants you for your looks". But with nationality it's "she only wants you for your money".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:05 PM
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This is similar to the casino industry where successful customers are a detriment to the business. They want you to keep coming back. But we have all sorts of regulations on casinos and gambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:06 PM
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Not that they should override it, but they are being pessimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:32 PM
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Well couldnt you use age or identity verification?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:25 PM
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This is exactly what im saying, the difference is middle class people will always have those expectations, it's just their mindset. Many of these people make enough money to raise kids, they just choose not to and larp as being too poor. Having kids will always be expensive, so they basically are saying unless they become multimillionaires they don't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:19 PM
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You’re adding so much regulation that you’re making it unprofitable to even make/maintain apps. I don't know about this. This still brings up the exact same question/concern. Would it not be easier to literally just remove the apps? It's by definition "easier" to add regulations than out right bans a industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:35 PM
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Because there are people in far worse economies having more kids. The world is overpopulated because women in poverty have the most kids. Even in the usa, Latin American women have the most kids in believe. It is upper middle class educated women choosing to not have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:19 PM
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Well it would be more than just that. I would support having a min age on dating apps, similar to casinos. What if we made it you have to be 30 to use a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:17 PM
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Possibly, but what would be the precedent for something like this? That's why I made the comparison to the FDA and how we need better regulation. This would also be alot harder to do than better regulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:02 PM
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what logic are you concluding that dating apps are populated only by leftist, liberal women? I don't know who said this, but the vast majority of young women are on the left, and the ones on the right are more likely to date in right leaning spaces like church.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:00 PM
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Because they have less access to planned parenting. Like contraceptive and family planning and abortions Absolutely not. This stuff is not expensive. It's because they don't care to plan for the consequences of having sex. Educated liberal women on reddit are not having kids because they know the cost; poor people have more kids because they don't know or don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:54 PM
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No, that's your reasoning to why you don't want to give birth. It's easily disproved by the 90s "teen pregnancy craze" - before the internet people would date who's around them and have kids too fast. Now they sit on hinge swiping until they find someone better than life than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:46 PM
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There are literally countless studies are data that comes to the same conclusion that women are dating more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:41 PM
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Please don't reply to me you lost this badly and it's embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:38 PM
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Every industry has the government regulating what they can and cant do. Food companies are regulated by the FDA to not put complete garbage in your food for example. It's about what would be beneficial to the government and society. The governments around the world complain about "low birth rates". Dating apps allowing women to be extremely picky is contributing to this imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:35 PM
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Isn’t this data based on a survey OKCupid did about 10 years ago? That was the study that showed 80% of women are trying to date 20% of men. Recent studies still show similar findings like young men being twice as likely to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:31 PM
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So the internet is giving them to a limitless supply of men and they are choosing the top percent, leaving most young men single. And women need to "check their privilege" in the massive benefits that come with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:13 PM
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You have never taken a statistics course. Huh? Genius, you haven't took a stats course. I can be 5 ft 11, but a graduate degree educated millionaire and still be in the top 10% of men. I can be less educated, but be a 6 ft 5 model and still be in the top percent. As I said, you don't just multiply the stats, you take a weighted average.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:11 PM
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But they use ig as a dating app. It allows them to "fillter" men by how many followers they have and superficially get info about them without showing commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:59 PM
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Here's an idea: dating apps should be legally mandated to only show people who have a similar level of matches. This would eliminate the massive disadvantage men face when dating women who have 100x more options. So Theoretically, if a woman got on a dating app and got 1000 matches in a day, she would only be able to see men who get 1000 matches a day. There wouldn't be any men like that available, so it would funnel than woman into dating men irl, instead of getting on a dating app to cherrypic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:57 PM
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So if you multiply all of those percentages You wouldn't multiply them lol. You would combine them in put them in some type of weighted average. And data shows around twice as many men under 30 are single than women according to pewresearch, so that is undeniable proof this is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:53 PM
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No it doesn't. I've repeatedly asked for this data and not a single person can provide it. This is a very easy thing to Google. And should be basically common knowledge for anyone in this sub. The reason people won't respond is because they know if you refute basic ideas like this you are just going to debate and nitpick every point they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:50 PM
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Now use data from the USA Census
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:05 PM
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Young men on average date women around their same, but women date slightly older men and leave young men single. you want to ask older men to stop pursuing younger women? Well they literally have to. A woman your same age is always going to go for the "more mature" guy 3 years older, forcing men to date younger. A easy fix would be if dating apps only legally could only allow people date with the same range of matches. Women with 1000 matches can only see men with 1000 matches (basically no one)…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:04 PM
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But they are a minority in the US. You wouldn't say "Asians are not a minority because of the population in China" - in the US they are the minority. And this is not what the term minority means anyway. But girls are performing better now, and still getting more affirmation action like programs supporting them despite being the dominant group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 05:21 PM
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The thing allmost all perpetrators so „not all men but allways a man“ is absolutely right. This is by definition not absolutely right. And babes „men“ are not a minority…..you need to internalize that. Says who? Not the population. And young women are outperforming young men across the board. Why do women get to declare themselves the minority and eternal victims, even when they are doing better than men. Reminds me of a certain country that thinks they have the right to murder Palestinians beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:53 PM
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The overall number of single men and women is about the same, there are just differences across age groups. This is ridiculous and cause by advantages women have over women in dating. Women need to stop saying this as if it is some valid reasoning. They just date men 3-5 years older than them and leave most young men single. This is especially bad for 18-19 year old men, who can't just date a woman 5 years younger to meet women's unreasonable expectations of being "better at life" than them to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:20 PM
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So it’s not a reality that women get saed, raped and killed and that the perpetrators are actually nearly allways men? And 95%+ of men are doing those things to women, so blaming that on men is completely nonsensical. What's also is hypocritical is women talk about men committing crimes the same way conservatives talk about minorities committing crimes, yet one is considered acceptable and one isn't. If fact, "blue pill" women will have all the talking points defending minorities committing crim…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:13 PM
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Well there would be slightly less women available to them but they wouldnt feel the difference. "Removing" a few hundred million women from the 3rd world out of billions isn't alot. To make a comparison, the 3rd world has a starvation and world hunger problem , but the 1st world has government benefits and food stamps to the point where we have an obesity problem in America. We essentially "solved" severe hunger in the 1st world. We could also solve the dating problems of men in society. The ben…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:55 AM
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Name a few then that this relates to Stop "slut shaming" - you can't force men to. Someone saying "i dont want to have sex with you" does not have a problem. There is no provlem here that needs to be fixed. Just because you want to have sex with someone does not magically entitle you to that persons body. They are fully within their right to shut you down and reject you This is a systematic societal issue. Young men are almost twice as like to be single as women, and their are economic, social, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:47 AM
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Yeah... again, women can technically stop this by just having sex with you, but they dont want to... and you cant force them to You can say this about literally any social issues or women's issues. It clearly is a problem with them if you look at data. Some men have a harder time dating as a 20 year old than a 40 year old simpily because young women's standards are so high. This is created problems for women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:29 AM
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Because your issue is just that nobody wants to have sex with you, unless we literally force people to have sex with you, theres little solution to this other than you working on yourself How about they work on themselves? How about stop outright using data that suggest men have harder dating lives? How about stop using dating apps to filter through hundreds of men, contributing to the problem? Women can fix this, they just don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:10 AM
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Like all women's issue, find potential solutions and empathize with it. But they don't do that for men's issue and tell them to pick them selves by their bootstraps because it's their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:53 AM
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How does this equate to women? We tell teenagers to practice abstinence because they aren't mature enough to handle pregnancies or abortions or even sex really at that age The left and pro choice people don't really tell teens to practice abstinence they tell them support sex ed amd tell them practice safe sex. What is your goal here though? I'm really not seeing how this makes women hypocritical, if you're unable to have sex then that sucks but that also doesnt mean that I cant or shouldnt have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:42 AM
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Yeah because telling someone what they can and cant do with their own body consensually is fucking stupid Nope. The argument is they can have sex if they want, but the consequence of that is pregnancy. Think about teenage pregnancy where they tell teens to not have sex and practice abstinence. This is portrayed as unreasonable. But talk about male loneliness and them being significantly more likely to be single? They shame men and tell them sex isn't everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:27 AM
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What? In one situation, the issue they have is with their bodily autonomy and human rights being violated No. They specifically get mad at the idea of telling them to not have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:20 AM
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Because they think telling people to not have sex is unreasonable when it is abort pregnancy and women, then turn around and act like it's not a valid complaint of men who say dating is too hard and they can't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:13 AM
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it. Go see those videos of 50 year old men prowling around Thailand for barely legal girls. That’s gross. Like, by any metric. But it wouldn't be this. It would be 20 year old men looking for 20 year old women to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:43 AM
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It’s hard for men because women are no longer compelled to be with men for financial security All the data that points to the rise of singleness explodes and correlates with the rise of social media, not women being "financially secure". So simply going to places where women don’t have the same freedom to choose is gross It's not that they don't have the same freedom, it's that it is a better quality of life. Its not my fault that women are extremely easy to date when you make 10x more money tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:24 AM
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I'm so serious. The reason modern dating is hard is because women went from having access to 7 men in their neighborhood 30 years ago to 700 men they can find on a dating app today. Men could essentially 1 up them, and access the 70,000 women all around the world would marry them because they are significantlymore successful than the men in their country just by being American. There is enough beautiful women in the 3rd world to supply every man in the 1st world with an attractive girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:30 AM
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I don't know what to debate about this but I'll try. Men could easily solve this if they removed the stigma of a "mail order bride" and dated one of the thousands of women all around the world who make $3 an hour who would marry them tomorrow. They are working hard, but not smart. It's not their fault though, because they will get shamed for doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:18 AM
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Wage gap is the number one issue presented by feminism? Is asking a question supposed to be a valid response? And to make your point you eliminate the vast majority of the female pool I finally get what you are talking about. Yes, because most young men and women don't live the same lives as elderly men and women. Young women are the only group that outperform their counterparts across the board and get special treatment as if their oppressed. And the general consensus when this is questioned is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:33 AM
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Feminism spent decades making the wage gap their number one issue, but if you adjusted the wage gap for relationship status, young women make more than young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:02 PM
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me: give points about social, psychological, and economical advantages women have over, essentially because of the effects of singlism (a term coined by intersectional feminist) You: realized you ran in to someone who would debate circles around you so make up a strawman about mEn oNlY wAnT SeX!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:49 PM
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It's not that their rights our being violated, it's that women refuse to in their words "check their privilege" in regards to the social, economical, and psychological advantages they have over men because of their easier access to sex. Feminism spent decades making the wage gap their number one issue, but if you adjusted the wage gap for relationship status, young women make more than young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:29 PM
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No, because this is your worldview when you only focus on America. The men you are calling lower class are actually well above average, and many women in developing countries agree with "traditional" relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 11:48 PM
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More people die of cancer than wars, but it’s not a competition But no one is saying "cancer deaths doesnt matter". When a man brings up the draft, women feel the need to tell them it's improbable they will die from being drafted then complain when men tell them its improbable they will die from needing an abortion. Hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:49 PM
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And selective service hasn’t been used since the 1970’s. You people say this, but complain about how anti abortion laws could harm women. What if it told you a similar number of men who would still be alive today died because they were drafted in the 70s as women who have died during childbirth because of anti abortion laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 04:14 PM
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True for women. Not directly true for men. They dress for women. Whom they want to have sex with to impress other men. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:18 PM
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"Women are not dressing for you they are dressing for them"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:08 PM
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Give me a ballpark estimate on how many women listen to music vs do crochet to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:04 AM
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Literally did the opposite of cherry picking, you cherrypicked. Is Knitting, Plants, and Scrapbooks are not close to the most popular hobbies for women. The most popular music: Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter TV shows: Love Island Euphoria I choose the most common hobbies, you cherrypicked to find less sexual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:00 PM
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Lol this i like the meme "I like waffles" "so why do you hate pancakes?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 07:29 PM
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And none of these men a majority male fanbase. Try again. The weeknd probably has a majority women fan base lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:56 PM
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Yes, because those dances aren't choose for a reason. It's so funny when people can't admit they were wrong and try to change their argument. Keep going. Tell me more about how they just choose unpopular dances to do at the super bowl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:52 PM
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Yea nice try just take the l
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:46 PM
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Cool story. My actual words in the post: "The most popular dances are sexual like twerking" Reading is fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:41 PM
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And my entire point wasnt about twerking, it was about sexual dancing, with twerking being an example. Please tell me more about how women don't shake their ass when bad bunny comes on though and I'm just making this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:13 PM
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Even if this were true (it’s not), it’s irrelevant since the vast majority of women does not post dances on tik tok, much less sexual dances. It is. The most popular musicians that make dance music makes sexual music. This is acknowledged by everyone in this thread saying "all music is sexual". The idea of deny this show a lack a intellectual character to be honest. Please tell me more about how women definitely don't shake their ass when bad bunny comes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:12 PM
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And sexual dancing in general haven't. What you think off as "twerking" peaking is when Miley Cyrus and white women learn about twerking. The dancers at the super bowl with bad bunny were also doing sexual dances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:03 PM
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OK I got it we are acting dumb. Of the content produced about dancing, the most popular is sexual. I don't have tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:01 PM
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If I look up tik tok dances right now the most popular thing will be sexual dances. Can we stop playing dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:54 PM
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Male rappers are not the most popular artist in the world, with a predominantly 75%+ male audience. The literally most popular music women listen to is all sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:49 PM
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twerking (2010s trend Tell me your race without telling me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:46 PM
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Dancing is a hobby. Twerking is dancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:45 PM
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It literally is. Dancing is a hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:41 PM
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And is Kevin gates the most popular male artist or are you cherrypicking an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:41 PM
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Equinox. Specially cable leg extension is the most sexualized exercise. I've only ever seen women who are wannabe ig models do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:10 PM
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Absolutely not nearly to the same extent. Men are not going to the gym to "look sexy" at the same rate as women, and saying otherwise is lying to yourself. Fanservice skins are a tiny fraction of games and is relatively new. It has nothing to do with the game itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:56 PM
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crochet? plant care/gardening? hiking? arts and crafts? Not as popular as music and television. People keep doing this like crochet is popular. I'm more familiar with old cod which isn't sexual. wrap it all the way tf up this whole post says waaay more about you than it does about women. The old "he made a good point so let me pretend like its a ridiculous point because I have no comeback". There is a reason "lovers island" or whatever and "euphoria" are so popular. This is the content women cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:50 PM
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It's literally their most popular hobbies for women and almost every woman I've ever met is into these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:12 PM
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Even 4b, these women think about sex so much if I go to that sub I know all they are talking about is men lol. If you are really 4b why are you here? Go hang out with women and stop thinking about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:09 PM
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Well it's all of the above. If I can say their is any type of overlap I'm considering it at least somewhat sexual. Which is why I gave Hockey as an example for men being a 0% sexual hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:07 PM
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It's not male or female artist, it's who the music is consumed by. Sucideboys id imagine has a majority male fanbase and is way less sexual that female rappers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:06 PM
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Id say the music men listen to is much less sexual than Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:03 PM
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No, it's not an opinion that most men don't commit sex crimes, and no most men don't spend hours and thousands on only fans. Only a small percentage are doing those things and you are completely making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:02 PM
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They'd be more sexual, but not to the point where all music and TV they consume is about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:00 PM
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I don't say all they think about is sex because I sexualized them for getting in shape. When I go to the gym women are almost exclusively doing gluten exercises and content on social media marketing toward women is "how to get a bigger butt". There are women I've seen every day for years at the gym that never did a arm workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:42 PM
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Most men don't commit sex crimes, and only spend a small amount of their day watching porn. Women spend much more time consuming sexual content through music and television.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:38 PM
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ok first of all, almost all popular music is about relationships/sex, whether it’s a male or a female artist Idk who the most popular musicians with a male dominated fanbase are, but the ones I can think of are not as sexual as the most popular with women, (female rappers and popstars). The only men that sexual was lil wanye 15 years ago, but men have toned it down while women are listening to music just like that now. twerking is not the only “female” dance move But its one of the most popular,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:37 PM
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I already mentioned, the only "exceptions" are porn and sexual crimes. Also, where on earth are you finding all these women that meet up to discuss what their doing with their husbands sexually? They are discussing their boyfriends in general, dates, weddings, etc. The rest of this is cherrypicked examples
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:28 PM
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Enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:25 PM
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Seems like you’re cherry picking “hobbies” to fit your theory. I'm literally picking the most popular things. Listening to Taylor swift is the most popular hobbies among women; sports and video games for men Why would you only look at the romance genre Because its the women's dominated genre. Why aren’t you accounting for other dance styles - like ballet, or even breakdancing Because they arent as popular as twerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:15 PM
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3% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:04 PM
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Sure, and culturally who do gay men align themselves with. They are literally a staple in women's spaces, not men's. Sports doesn't even have many openly gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:53 PM
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Why would American women compare American men to men Third World countries? Because "being America" is apart of someone's status, no different than height. We don't force short women to only date short men - they get to take advantage of the the fact that short women are disproportionately considered more attractive than short men. Men in the 1st world are disproportionately more attractive than men in the 3rd world compared to women in the 1st and 3rd world. The point of this post is if men wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:08 PM
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OK so your just going to purposefully go in circles I don't see any point in continuing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:00 PM
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So why point that out if you arent saying that. It doesn't make sense to say men have unrealistic expectations because it also says men are swiping on more women than women are to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:52 PM
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So you can acknowledge that but can't acknowledge women having unrealistic expectations? Who is deciding women are more attractive than those men? What makes those expectations unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:48 PM
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also here is data showing men are having significantly less sex than women. This idea that all men are single because they are secretly fuckboys is peak gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:46 PM
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You are just choosing to believe what you want. This article acknowledges the same thing that dating is skewed against young men and it's a supply and demand issue. Literally millions of men will tell you this is the reason but you believe what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:34 PM
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Except you didn't, and it was debunked several times not only in this post but in this subreddit ad nauseum. It wasn't debunked. You can pretend like it was but saying thing like "women are dating" older men is proving it to be true - who are younger men dating? No one, because they have to "wait in line". There's also zero evidence it's because they don't want to be single Except they are straight and anyone who goes outside and touches grass wouldn't make the argument most people are choosing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:05 PM
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You literally said women have a higher chance to be killed by their partners , when they have a lower chance of dying most other ways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:12 PM
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Yes you know all billion plus people in India because of some random anecdote
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:23 PM
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I believe men have higher early death rates than women overall than women so this wouldn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:22 PM
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No, because the women are just as poor, short, and have the same beliefs as the men proportionally. It's to show women that their standards are infinitely higher than men's. Men in the developed world are attracted to women all over, but not women. The men you complain about is still a top 10% attractive man on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:02 PM
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It absolutely does. I gave factual data that most young men are single and most young women aren't. There is zero evidence that this is because men want to be single. Also, you mentioned "settling down" which isn't the same thing. The same people who swear you can't preach abstinence swear men are just single because it's fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:35 PM
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More anecdote, no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:31 PM
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The commenter who keeps saying 5 ft 7 is below average is proving my point. Her standards are inflated by the American average and she doesn't know how good she has it. The problem is women bully men for concepts like "mail order bride" and "passport bro" for chasing women with actual understanding of average and not wanting to deal with their inflated standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:30 PM
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It absolutely does. I'm 36. Most of my female peers were paired up by 25. Most of my male peers after 30. Not because they couldn't but because they literally DID NOT WANT to settle down yet. It was their choice. A man in a "situationship" is more likely to say he's single. A woman is more likely to say she is not single. And there is no evidence of this. It's just anecdotal damage control that "all men want to be fuckboys until they are 30". There are plenty of men who will tell you those aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:26 PM
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Rural China isnt even connected to the rest of the world. Foreigners can visit they can only stay in major cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:01 PM
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Have you ever in your life met anyone from China or India, or found out any information about these countries that comes from this millennium? The "people you meet" from these countries are the upper middle class ones who's families had opportunities to leave and come to the usa. The vast majority of them are extremely poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:32 PM
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Depending on other factors like wealth, he is. Of you ever been to the Philippines you see plenty of couples like this between foreigners. What good is being attractive if the woman and her family has to be poor. They essentially sell their beauty for a middle class lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:36 AM
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Your literally 1st statement was "a bald fat man isnt in the same league an attractive 30 year old" - To You. In another country, if that man is 5 ft 8 and make 50k a year, he is in the same league as an attractive Filipina woman. That's why they can go over there and date so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:22 AM
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Glass half empty glass half full. Instead of saying "most men are terrible", you could say most men in the developed world would make great partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:17 AM
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Well this proves my point in women are judging based off what's around them. You should be able understand why a man who is 5 ft 8 and makes 50k a year can go to another country and be significantly more successful with women because he's "tall and rich" by their standards right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:14 AM
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You think taking the average height of men in the world instead of in the usa is illogical?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:08 AM
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Because i took the overall average everywhere. Women in the developed world are spoiled in what they look for in men because they look at what average men in their country. Kinda like what you are doing right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:02 AM
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It's kinda hard to marry someone if you don't know they exist Sure, and the same way men say dating apps ruined dating for them because it allowed women to find men they didn't know existed, this can be taken to next level and help men find women they didn't know existed. Obviously not some obscure language, but English speakers are highly desirable everywhere. Many people know at least some English.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:23 AM
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Well this is the 1st valid point. But their are solutions to these. Citizenship can be solved threw marriage, languages learned, ethnicity increasingly doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:10 AM
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OK, so if attracted extremely attractive ig models, that's my league right? Because I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:57 AM
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Considering the two biggest countries are China and India by far, thats why. Also the rest of Asia brings the average height down. Same with income.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:39 AM
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Except that's not the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:37 AM
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Uh no. Both men and women think younger is better looking. This statement doesn't match what I said. I said disproportionately. For example, you will see depictions of men with slightly grey hair in media considered attractive like a middle aged George Clooney, but you won't see women with slightly grey hair considered the most attractive woman in the world. Similarly, you will see tiny 5 ft tall 100 lb women like Ariana Grande and Jenna Ortega depicted as the most attractive women, but never a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:35 AM
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Since when did speaking broken English mean you can't converse effectively. What's funny is your doing this failed trolljob "you hate men" that you are just saying xenophobic things now. Next your going to tell be you want to build a wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:30 AM
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Again, the data is simply too vast for LGBT to make a significant difference. They are a small percent of the population. Other studies show that 56% percent of 30-34 year old men are either cohabitating or married But this isn't young women and men. Women dating men 2-3 years older is not the proof you think it is - it's proof of hypergamy. 18 year old men can't just date 3 years younger than them, so they have to wait until the women their age are done having their fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:28 AM
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Not just Hispanic, Hispanic and don't speak English fluently. Almost never tbh. But I've seen the opposite 10x as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:06 AM
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? This isnt a fair comparison, obviously they are dating more American women. A better question to prove my point is how often do you see a man irl or in media that speaks English natively that date a woman who speaks broken English(alot). Now the opposite, women who speak English natively to men who speak broken English (almost never).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:58 AM
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Or they can just check their privilege. If this were the case, middle aged women who are dating wouldn't have similar struggles to young men. Young women are disproportionately considered more attractive than young men, just like middle aged men are disproportionately considered more attractive than middle aged women. It isnt because women are doing something special, they are just lucky they are a woman (in dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:45 AM
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Because they had no choice and had to settle
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:27 AM
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Literally not what that comment says at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:23 AM
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No it hasn't. Even when you look up political correct reasoning, it suggests women are just dating men older than them, which is still unfair to men the same age as them. There is no way the difference of what men and women consider a relationship makes that big of a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:22 AM
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Age definitely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:06 AM
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Yes really. Its the reason men can be "passport bros" and women usually aren't. Usa women are already in the country with the most attractive men because of education and income. But men care less about these and are more exclusively looking for attractiveness, so the can go to poor countries and still find attractive women to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:05 AM
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Based on ubiquitous beauty standards. Like I say height is one. Income is another. Age is another. (For men)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:02 AM
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No, they are almost all too poor and uneducated for them to have the resources to be attractive. But men don't care as much about this and would date a poor village girl based on her bra size.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:59 AM
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But you can estimate. Attractiveness is subjective, but also unanimously agreed upon. Its not like 50-50 on whether women like tall or short men, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:58 AM
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Why would I debate this unstable person who literally screamed everything is an opinion. No shit. This sub wouldn't exist if I can factually prove attractiveness. I gave data that suggested certain trends, and they are choosing to be obnoxious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:49 AM
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Because society isn't structured in fairness in dating. Women are essentially lucky men don't have access to hundreds of millions of poor women that they are attracted to. Similarly, there is a billion men in China and India, but usa women wouldn't want those men. Would you call a 80 year old rich man dating a 25 year old woman "dating in his league"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:45 AM
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Huh? That just means you aren’t judging league accurately. Your league is what you can get on average. So if all women are getting it, that’s literally what dating in your league is. No, it means there is inequality in the dating market that makes things easier for women and harder for men. Luckily women aren’t usually looking for dates form a third world mail order husband catalog, lol. It’s not hard to find a man to date who isn’t abusive when dating people you meet in real life. Because men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:40 AM
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If you mean extremely religious men, it could be low because they oppress women essentially force women to have their their beliefs and marry them. It's a next level version of "nice guys finish last"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:34 AM
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Yes, but obviously abusive men won't be advertising they are abusive. They actually will. The men who are extremely abusive around the world are usually extremely religious, think guys in the taliban. They will openly say sexist misogynistic things to you. It's not as taboo as in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:31 AM
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I am looking at attractiveness and status, you gave a study on just attractiveness. It's irrelevant considering no women wants an attractive man who belongs to the 40% of men who thinks it's ok to beat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:26 AM
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Not really. Feminism exist in the west, where less than 10% of men believe in beating their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:24 AM
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OK? Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:21 AM
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But it isnt a hard fact. A study of people's options still isnt factual
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:20 AM
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I'm more so talking about how 60% of young men are single compared to 30% of women and the infinitelymore options women have over men are socially constructed. Society acts like American men in their 20s are so unattractive when they are the most attractive men on the planet, they just have to compete with American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:19 AM
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This doesn't account for anything but looks not status, and i don't know how you can statistically prove women are more attractive than men. But let's say they were. Women still wouldn't date the kore attractive guy who makes less than min wage and is abusing them. They would eventually run out of men that have the same values as them outside of a couple 100 million.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:16 AM
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Doesn't have to be exact. The point is it's not even close. And you can rank all 3 billion men and women on the planet you would come to the same conclusion. It's just ingrained in society things like men have to be slightly higher earning and older than women, when it should be the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:02 AM
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Why does a man not being abusive mean he’s out of my league It doesn't, I'm just using this as an example to show the men that women consider unattractive are more attractive than almost half of men in the world based off that. And why do you think western men are the only men on earth who don’t beat women to death? Racist much? And why do you assume the entirety of woman’s value is what she looks like right now? Because they are significantly less likely to, I never said they wouldn't. And to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:59 AM
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I kinda did. It literally wouldn't matter at all to me. The point was women don't realize a curvy woman with huge boots is a "fat" women, and these women are extremely attractive and there is no comparison to short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:33 PM
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Are you serious? The idea of a "thick" or "curvy" women is just as sexualized and celebrated as a slim woman, especially in the west. Women can have the same body shape as Jenna Ortega, or leanbeefpatty and be considered attractive. They can be 5ft tall or 6 ft tall. It is not the same for men, who have to be at least somewhat tall and muscular. If 98% of women are an attractive height and say, 60% of men are an attractive height, you think that's equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:58 AM
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If all things were equal, would you choose a fat woman or a thin woman? Men like "fat" women just as much as thin women. The women on r/thick are overweight, aka fat, and those women are considered as attractive as thin at women. But women overwhelmingly prefer tall men over short men, trash comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:02 AM
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None of this made any sense. I am making a point about child support and you are talking about how taxes defeats my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:36 PM
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So you are pro life and tell women "oh well should have closed your legs then" right because "accountability" ? That's the only way it's an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:33 PM
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So you at least agree only the rich should have to pay child support then right? Most dont use public school when they can afford private school. Many of them choose public school for social reasons, like their child needs to be around regular kids, not elite kids. Also this isn't really true. "Public school" in affluent neighborhoods are really good public schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:31 PM
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Obviously mothers shouldnt pay child support either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:28 PM
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If you have no argument why bother commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:26 PM
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But my post isn't about conservatives it's about what leftist should think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:08 PM
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The government should pay, just like it pay for a child's public school.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:07 PM
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You're assuming not paying child support means men don't want to see there children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:06 PM
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If you say so. They're plenty of women not getting any child support who wish they were. Just say you don't like it because it benefits men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:05 PM
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You're jumping to conclusions. It's both parents responsibility to take care of children and never did i say men shouldn't. Child support isn't "punishment for being a parent" it's for the child's best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:46 PM
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They already "take care of people". You want there to be zero government assistance anywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:31 PM
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Its implied that you know what a leftist believes and see how this should align
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:19 PM
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Yes, but this is a specific conundrum where they would support those things but also be helping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:17 PM
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On economic issue not social issues
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:16 PM
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If they are getting the child support of their father they can afford rich tutors and everything else lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:08 PM
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The government or other taxpayers money should not have to provide for your family if you can afford it. That's ridiculous!!! So cancel all government assistance programs? Extremely unpopular.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:07 PM
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OK well obviously that's not financially feasible, and in my post I mention how inexpensive this would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:06 PM
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I mentioned how it aligns with other programs so if you agree with those you should agree with the government paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:01 PM
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Rich people pay more in child support, and the government could pay that too. If you increased taxes by $200 on every tax payer you could fund this. Or your could " tax the rich" and fund it even easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:59 PM
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Child support is about the best interest of the child Only ~70% of child support payments are received. In this system, 100% would be received. So this is in the best interest of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:57 PM
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But it question if leftist are leftist, because I never heard one of them suggest this or agree with this. They also complain about "men shifting to the right" so here is a policy that men would support on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:50 PM
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It's about what's a better system for the child. This is like asking "why provide public school to parents that can afford private school?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:48 PM
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Was this ever a question? No. What's funny is the "blue pill" would be completely understanding if we were talking about how important sex is to the LGBT community and against repression of their sexuality, but we essentially live in a society where men are sexually repressed and they are condescending about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:24 PM
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Sex is extremely important in a mentally stable adult
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:55 PM
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Never said anything about white men. When you dismiss men's issue you inadvertently dismiss black men's issues, a fundamental flaw in radical feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:19 PM
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You didn't show how that data is bigger than race or every other groups, you just compared it to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:07 PM
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And men still remain the biggest criminal group. Source? How are we determining this when most men don't commit crime? Of course 50% of the population is going to commit a lot of crime, but are you adjusting it for the population? And is that more than black people if the "13% commit 50% of crimes" stat is true? Except gun violence is also predominantly male. Imagine thinking a gun would put women and men on an equal playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:04 PM
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You can get fired for your job for saying something like that about men technically, not cops. It's offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:53 PM
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Your last sentences mean nothing and you didn't give an explanation, even here you are saying Men and crime correlating heavily is true across races, social class, etc. And we are telling you there are many other groups that commit crime that you are trying to down play. And as a side, we have examples of what society across different groups, but there is no homogeneous society of women. Women commit crime less because they can't overpower men; if society was only women, you have narcissistic fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:47 PM
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You said "why wouldn't you treat the less problematic people (women) in society better", then listed off crime stats on men. But if says this exact same thing about black people you would have a problem with it it seems. Poverty and even then, victimization rates are actually the same across races. It's just the legal system are more generous to others than some. But the crime stats still exist, you are giving a reason for it but that doesn't stop your point of it's ok to generalize against men …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:35 PM
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If a Black friend says they’re cautious around cops, you don’t accuse them of bias. You recognise they’re managing risk around a group with power and a track record. Women do the same with men. It’s not hate, it’s situational awareness. If women are cautious around men, you call it misandry. If we’re not cautious and something happens, you ask why we weren’t more careful. You can’t have it both ways. Cops aren't a protected group like, gender race sexuality etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:19 PM
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Prove that I said the majority of men are violent or I'm ending this conversation. The op implied it's ok to assume men are criminals because most crime is committed by menand you defended this. Even though most men aren't violent so this is a ridiculous claim. You also ignored my 2nd point and said to someone else "there is more of a correlation between gender and crime than race and crime" - but there is still a correlation. It's just politically incorrect to point out the racial correlation a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:17 PM
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Because men of all races have a very deep problem with violence and externalizing then women. Source? Because the vast majority of men aren't violent against women and you are just justifying your misandry like I said. There's actual biological differences between men and women than across different races. But there is also cultural differences - nature vs nuture. So my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:51 PM
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The problem with this thought process is that the vast majority of women wouldn't find it acceptable to look at race to discriminate against people who commit the most crime, yet find it acceptable with men to justify misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:41 PM
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How did you get this out of this comment? He literally said the nicest men aren't getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:29 AM
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