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GeneralIgereth/r/MensRights22/02/22 01:58 PM
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leaving out the bear/man hypothetical. A woman walks home alone at night. how do they know what person will try to rape/kill them and who would not want to do that? this is a practical real life example. what are women supposed to do? you cannot detect a rapist by looking at them.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 05:11 PM
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Falsifying information is a crime. Report her. What's the name of the paper? do you have the edited one?
/r/MensRights23/04/23 05:40 PM
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opting out for men has no affect on their body tho. Abortion is a medical procedure. It has risks and lowers fertility. https://www.compasscare.info/health-information/abortion/abortion-risks-and-side-effects/ It's not something you just do. And if you think a man and a woman together cannot properly take care of a child and it will financially ruin the man then how would one person alone do it? Following the logic of financial ruin, men opting out of parenthood means a woman can either abort th…
/r/MensRights10/01/23 04:49 PM
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and against sex trafficking https://www.euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/trafficking-and-sexual-exploitation-of-ukrainian-refugees-on-the-rise/
/r/MensRights10/01/23 04:33 PM
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I couldnt find any claim in the article that women were most affected
/r/MensRights10/01/23 04:32 PM
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yeah and in the end Id suggest either side that venting should be at a minimum. My points stands, 90% of venting will only result in a bad image (just like some feminits caused with feminism). If venting is more important than tackling the problems itself you take away the importance of those problems. In other words, why should others care for men's problems if they themselves do not?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:13 PM
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well the issue is feminists and mra's fight with each other instead of debating solutions to problems... true that is an issue that said how would you fund and organize equity? like you fund and organise anything else. Usually through non profit organisations and with a specific cause. For example you could make a fundraiser online and give the gathered money to a homeless shelter. There could be ones specifically for men too. There are (at least in my country) many non gender specific help cent…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:35 PM
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would say by women "ofcourse not all women" but that you can not imagine it tells everything you need to know... Im talking about feminists specifically tho bc 90% of the post are about shitty feminismrather than issues of men. Letting off steam sometimes is fine but not constantly. From an outsiders point of view it looks like the men here see the progress women made with their rights dimishes men's rights. And it also makes it seem like ranting about feminism has way more importance over men's…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 12:54 PM
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any effort like that will be branded as attack on womens rights and you can see that if you try to talk about it in feminist subs and earn massive downvotes followed by a shadow ban... that said the first thing that should be done is paternity leave or equal parental leave and equal custody in my opinion... It will be seen as an attack if you mention feminists. Literally in my country the last feminist protest included paternity leave for men. ​ do you understand that some men are really frustra…
/r/MensRights14/10/22 10:37 AM
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well you can discuss it here and organise your own protest, or a petition or raise general awareness without putting anyone else down. Biology gave women the disadvantage of pregnancy I agree that is not fair. And again feminism. Yes, not all are good (just like men's rights activists) but what good are you doing by complaining about the bad feminists online? Plus no one here ever acknowledges the good feminism has done. Call out the bad ones if you want but you demonise a group with so much div…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 07:08 PM
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You got the platform here but I hardly ever see problems of men discussed but rather any form of why feminits are bad or someone saying men's issues arent being discussed.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 12:06 PM
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Andrew Tate literally said women are the property of men... If a guy watches him unironically what do you expect? Plus a lot of men who watch him unironically follow his advice and change their behavior to be like him. Saw a story of a guy who told his gf he cheated on her to get her respect (...). She left him and didnt want to go back even if he tried to "explain". Imagine your gf watching a woman who says stuff like this about men.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 12:38 PM
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Im not reading through all that waste of time talking to you
/r/MensRights11/08/22 01:57 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/wlcpp4/narcoleptic_nice_guy_posting_about_his_ex_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/wlasb4/nice_guy_instagram_reels_majority_of_the_page_is/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/wjo8wx/a_guy_that_one_of_my_girlfriends_friends_was/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/whwil1/my_friend_gave_me_permission_to_post_t…
/r/MensRights11/08/22 01:23 AM
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okay you think what you want to think. I dont think men or women are dumb for falling into traps. If you want to think the opposite up to you
/r/MensRights10/08/22 08:59 PM
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I didnt imply that. You assumed it. so that wouldnt make them stupid in the end.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 08:02 PM
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I mean I didnt say everyone you just put that in my mouth. I take about literally abusive behaviors with toxic people. And that is not easy to break out of.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 07:52 PM
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haha I make peopel children?? sure mate
/r/MensRights10/08/22 07:36 PM
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psychopaths learn exactly how to react and what people want to hear. You dont spot them if they dont want you to or when you are already in
/r/MensRights10/08/22 07:11 PM
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it is not dumb considering again toxic people dont wear a beware sign. Hella toxic to blame the victim.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:53 PM
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yes she did lol keep scrolling up. There she said a lot of women are [too dumb to choose a man]
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:40 PM
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agree to disagree
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:39 PM
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while not getting pregnant
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:34 PM
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at least the part where men have some responsibility when having sex is yep
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:29 PM
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She acted like double standrards in dating perception is "bla bla" haha what is there to argue? I made a point and instead of answering I get this bs lol and women are too dumb to chose partners? haha that sexist shit is what used to circle incel subs non stop
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:28 PM
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dreamworld must be nice
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:13 PM
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anyone can have their mentality
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:12 PM
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okay have fun in this world
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:59 PM
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women can also be incels It didnt use to be like this. Check out incel forums they did it to themselves
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:52 PM
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No they are not I don’t know anywhere else in society atleast for men does society take biological differences that would benefit them to the point of having complete choice or even control of the other gender So men are worldwide forced to have unprotected sex? They are forced to impregnate women? It's not control you are not forced to impregnate yet you cannot lose responsibility over your child. You have all freedom to use birth control. Birth control isn’t 100% but women again have far more …
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:50 PM
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maybe he isnt but he sure argues like one. Women dumb, man intelligent. Seen enough incels with this approach.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:16 PM
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why doesnt it matter? biological differences are taken into consideration everywhere else why not here? Men don’t decide that’s the entire point saying don’t have sex or contraceptives isn’t a good argument especially since again same for women isn’t 100% guaranteed and also we already as a society decided that just because you have sex doesn’t mean you want to have a child regardless of risks Women dont decide to get pregnant either. Both can decide on birth control. No the fuck they don’t they…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:02 PM
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yes? women get pregnant men dont. There is a biological imbalalance. Again, men do decide but earlier on than women BECAUSE they dont get pregnant. If men got pregnant it would be the other way around. Yes, abortion and vasectomy bear the same level of risks for the body. So it is valid to expect a man who thinks of abortion to be a good solution that he thinks of vasectomy as just as good.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:17 PM
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I dont speak incel
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:11 PM
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it's not fair for men to have zero responsibilty when having sex. Simply not and never will be. You cant think of abortion to be a good solution if you refuse vasectomy. If you are against vasectomy as birth control you cant be pro abortion. Im not the one ignoring nature you are.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:50 PM
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okay you keep living in a dream world Im done trying to get this across to you. You will never get out of the risks of pregnancy if you cant deal with it then dont have sex. Abortion is the same as vasectomy. Either you are for no contraceptives or you are pro vasectomy/abortion. You cant cherry pick.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:29 PM
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Ok you step up and have no abortions also step up since by your own logic men should be able to decide on a woman’s body as well, because surely your not pro choice and making pro life arguments but only dependent on the persons gender, so by your logic women want to be treated like children since they asking to keep abortions instead of just using birth control? And are dodging responsibility why should I? Im the one who gets fucked either way? Im not discussing abortion rights otherwise I shou…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:05 PM
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yeah but apparently when women make a mistake it's bc they are too dumb to chose. When I say the same about men you get pissy. Obv I dont believe either but thanks for confirming my point
/r/MensRights10/08/22 02:45 PM
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freedom LMAO. lol you sound like you think men should be entitled to sex. Or maybe you think women need to be punished bc they can say no to men. That is so fucked up. are you fucking dumb , I am saying remove that shit , get rid of it for both of them. I don't support either , ie. earlier it was women not having a say & their legitimacy abolished WHICH IS WRONG & I HAVE SAID IT ABOVE TOO , but now the legitimacy of FATHER is removed WHICH IS WRONG TOO (I ain't shouting just capitalizing for bet…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 02:21 PM
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Yes it true, ok then abortions done need to be a thing then by your logic since women had a choice to get birth control or a tubal ligation, also yes again Igereth women have most of the choice far more compared to men on whether to have the child, get rid of it, or even if the man should be in the kids life regardless of his decision, that’s why it should be more responsibility on women if men don’t get the same choice then that’s how equality works. It isnt equal by nature. If men got pregnant…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 02:12 PM
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Imagine the man got pregnant. Would you want the women to be able to have zero responsibility when having sex" ~ YES. Which is why I won't fuck around randomly... & have discussion before having sex. haha I dont believe you mate. What you suggests would give men ALL freedom to fuck around no consequrnces at all. The LAW literally says FATHER. Are you blind ? Just confirming. Equal my ass. Oh take away legitimacy from fathers , thats EQUAL. I remember that quote from Animal Farm "Everybody is equ…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 01:55 PM
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no that's not true. Both men and women have a choice it's just that women have it a bit longer considering they are the ones inside the baby grows. The man has a choice to use birth control however it does not negate the risks of sex. You arent dumb you know what can happen and you cannot demand zero responsibility and risk when having sex. And tubal ligation is yet another responsibility on women which is most of the time non reversible while a vasectomy is. If the woman carries the bodily cons…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 01:31 PM
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yes they are. Many guys in those post outright call themselves nice or some variation of it. They are definitrly better than the current asshole bf and why tf would she not give him a chance? he is nice?! he is entitled to her attention... or so they think
/r/MensRights10/08/22 01:20 PM
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not condescending at all. I guess all men who end up in abusive relationships or with gold diggers are stupid too?
/r/MensRights10/08/22 01:17 PM
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Yes , the law clearly takes away the legitimacy from fathers ONLY not the woman ,LMAO. you didnt read the link I sent... The law as it used to be gave the father special privileges over the mother, now those have been revoked an it's equal. bruh , why not marry or have sex at all ? Incase its unwanted due to failure of condoms , its pretty evident that the mother & father don't need the kid & so can abort. Proper family planning will definitely help. having a vasectomy when you dont want childre…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 01:15 PM
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Never said I don't want birth control for men. The present ones are shit & so no point in supporting them. yes? demand new ones not zero responsibility gor men. Get a vasectomy since you are pro abortion. Why can one person provide for it , LMAO. My point was to give the kids to the father & not the mothers (look up court bias , there's interesting stats on it). And yes , if man backs out women CAN abort or keep the child , after all its their body their choice. A man can have a vasectomy if he …
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:35 PM
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Encouraging women to become Independent but still hold men responsible for alimony and child support. I already wrote a big comment on that topic here. In short, you demand men should have zero risk and responsibilty when having sex when you should demand birth control for men. If you think abortion is a good solution with all its negative side effects then so are vasectomies. Encouraging women to expose their bodies & make a living off of it, but say it’s men who are objectifying them. Are you …
/r/MensRights07/08/22 06:46 PM
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I mean why not ? Are you assuming that the woman is jobless & her sole reason for existence is to take care of the kids? bc if you take away sleep it's about 5 dollar per hour. That is not good pay. And three children if they are small need constant care. If she has a job she might earn money however it will still cost (way more that 5 per hour) to have someone watch over them. Generally it is cheaper to have one of the parents look after a child rather than hire someone. There are pretty awesom…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 06:16 PM
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Would you take a job of caring for 3 children 24/7 for 2k a month? And you also pay the food and necessities.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 03:50 PM
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It has been shown that fathers often dont ask for custody. https://www.dadsdivorcelaw.com/blog/fathers-and-mothers-child-custody-myths Often the parents decide together the mother should get custody. Also, judges research the parental investment and base their decision on that as to not disturbing a childs daily life too much. https://www.weinmanfamilylaw.com/blog/2020/06/are-the-courts-gender-biased-in-custody-cases/ I think paying rent, food and necessities with child support makes sense since…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 02:31 PM
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but you do realise OP is implying exactly that? He states the man works more (in a 'real' job) than the woman yet she spends the money. OP doesnt see housework/child care as work. And like this other guy pointed out housewives are often tasked with grocery shopping etc.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 06:58 PM
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and you dont have to take care of the children if someone already does that... The point is OP said men earn more well no shit if the woman takes care of the chidlren, you dont get paid.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 08:18 AM
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That doesnt pay the bills. And the father can enjoy those results just as much.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 08:29 PM
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this, plus the house work and child care is also work just not paid
/r/MensRights26/07/22 12:03 PM
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Then society exploits any human with consumerism. This is not about porn. This is about those kinds off men who only care about their own sexual fullfilling when having sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 10:17 PM
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I literally wrote which definition I stand by. If you really believe feminsim is and has always been the same and therefore should have an easy definition you outed yourself as knowing very little about it. what is the definition of men's rights then? And how would you include the incels that promote forced prostitution by law as a men's right since sex is a "basic need"
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:07 PM
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It's unfair and desperately cowardly to attribute all progress given to & made by women, to Feminism, then also absolve Feminism of anything done wrong or said hatefully by people calling themselves Feminists. I never said feminism is the only movement which helped progress women. Dont put words in my mouth. Yet you can hardly claim feminism hasnt done any good. Why? bc it is wrong to blame the bad things happening to men exclusively on feminsim and this is what I read here every day. And if fem…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:03 PM
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Mary Wollstonecrafts essay is from 1792... are you seriously taking an over 200 year old text to base ur judgement on feminism today? You go back into a time which EVERYONE was backwards. That does not validate it was right for women to not vote etc. Even in our recent day and age, I challenge you to name one, just ONE thing that feminism has done to benefit men. Modern day feminism challanges traditional gender roles which benefits everyone. Speaking up for yourself isn't victim mentality, but …
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:41 PM
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A feminist is simply someone claiming to be part of the movement. Feminism on the other hand is hardly easy to define considering the length of it's existance. I'd like to refer to John Hoffmann's 'defining feminism'. He explains there are multiple forms of feminism "I want to argue that there is both one feminism and many feminisms. Or, to put it less paradoxically, there is a feminism that can only be identified through its multiple forms" In that he acknowledges that depending on how you thin…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:27 PM
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Feminism is used as a shield also. It's not an infallible ideology, and people must be reminded of that. yes, by some. And those may rightfully be called out. Yet again a holistic attack is uncalled for. Because that is simply not true. I don't have time to recite world history with references, but world history had more than a few diverse ideas in practice. Bachelor taxes throughout history punished men who didn't want to marry. In many of those places men didn't want to marry because marrying …
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:12 AM
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I dont. However, I find it petty that instead of calling out indivuduals in this sub all of feminism is attacked as a whole. This gives off the impression you are not happy with the progress women had (eg voting, owning property). And additionally it posts and comments almost exclusively circle around how evil feminism is rather than actual men's rights which is sad. In light of this are you truly surprised some people see this sub as incel-like? they did the same thing.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 09:42 AM
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Which definition are you talking about? If you think speaking up for yourself is a victim mentality then this whole sub here is just the same.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 09:36 AM
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I think it's good to call out individuals who behave in a biased way but here feminism is attacked as a whole. It is never acknowledged that without feminism women could still not vote, own property etc. On the contrary since all of feminism is attacked it feels like you are not happy with the progress women had. Furthermore, it is rarely about men's rights (a topic I want to learn more about) but almost exclusively about how evil feminism is. And if it's not in the post itself you find it in th…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 09:34 AM
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That's not a fallacy but an observation. If you take feminazis as norm of feminism it's a conscious choice you made. And I bet neither them nor you read a valid book on feminist theories. The twitter "all men should die" feminazis are about as relevant as the "men should be provided sex by the government" incels.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 09:24 AM
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Not sure how this guy got the numbers. I checked out the report from 2006 which was 57.9% women and 42.1% men. In 2020 it was 52% women and 47.1% (missing % is unnkown gender) There is evidence women took and still do take care more of children and household duties. And while this changes it seems the number of perpetrator balance out. Since it is mainly care takers that are perpetrator it makes sense that women, who in the past were the main care takers, have had higher numbers.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 03:50 PM
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it's typically sexist not feminist. If you take feminazis as norm for feminism it's like people taking incels as norm for men's rights activism
/r/MensRights10/07/22 01:32 PM
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that's true. Sadly abortions are no easy simple solution either. https://www.compasscare.info/health-information/abortion/abortion-risks-and-side-effects/
/r/MensRights01/07/22 09:12 PM
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you literally just said I did what I did bc if an agenda. That is an insult. You diminished my efforts to help. You call me ignorant several times bc I dont see completely eye to eye with you. judging a whole group of people just because of a few bad ones. I am judging the ones that treated me like shit. How is it my fault when it was every incel I talked to more closely? I already told you I dont think all are the same and yet you put words in my mouth. And btw if the bad stuff on FDS has been …
/r/MensRights22/06/22 08:44 AM
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I didnt say you I said you think I act with malicious intent aka having an agenda. And insulting people isnt nice
/r/MensRights22/06/22 07:19 AM
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jesus fucking christ my agenda? that is what you think?! you just keep insulting me here there is hobestly no use to keep discussing. you want me as your enemy but I dont care to be it. Doesnt matter what I say you turn it around to be malicious. Good life to you.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 09:00 AM
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All of us humans ar nothing more than animals, we got instincts, and our instincts tells us that a certain group wants us harm. well yes, and considering how incels treated me I hace a bad impression of them. And besides, how do you know how they were treated by all women? Were you there? were you? do you know all women treated them badly? And what kind of help you get online? Just empty words? That is low effort and incels do not need or want low effort help. Again, if you go online you will re…
/r/MensRights17/06/22 01:26 PM
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yes!
/r/MensRights17/06/22 12:52 PM
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one of us would need to look it up if you want the facts
/r/MensRights14/06/22 04:22 PM
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the crew was on his side apparently. Is it barbaric if you want to live instead of drowning or better freezing? I dont think so. There is no need to paint men as heros.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:13 PM
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Well think about it, if a dog has always been beaten up and abused by human, how will he react to future humans? Will the dog be all nice and happy towards humans or will he be aggressive towards humans because he never personally met a good human. Same with icnels, the huge amount of bad encoutners with females let them so traumatised that they started to not hate them, but just dislike them and be even afraid of them. incels are not dogs and I highly doubt all women in their lives treated them…
/r/MensRights14/06/22 12:49 PM
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Well like you said, it's hard to question the dead. And you base this assumtion on your believes not facts. On the titantic it was the captain who very aggressivelly enforced the women and children first rule.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 12:16 PM
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bc Im a feminist I should know exactly how a whole movement will develop? In what manner? you were given a list of feminist misandry and you start acting like a 5 year old, saying it is too long. You are not even willing to read that criticism, so why should I trust your opinion on that criticism? In a hostile one? What you do rn too by calling me names and insulting me. Again, what should be pro men arguments are anti feminist ones. No, I said I need time to read it and some of the points I alr…
/r/MensRights14/06/22 11:56 AM
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I mean in a men's right subreddit, why did you expect anything else? feminists have done no good for men and constantly try to make it worse for them. And that is what I mean by focusing on the bad and not acknowledging the good. I agree that feminism should evolve and it will but hostility rather than critisism will slow down this process a lot. At least people to try reason here instead of permabanning anyone who dissents like those feminist subs. If you critisise feminism in the same manner a…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 02:51 PM
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Obviously not. Yet you cannot say you are a feminist without massive backlash here. A virtual witch hunt will be started and everyone tries to convert you and tell you how shitty it is in a hostile way. In this post Im discussing with one guy who stays completely factual and friendly. Practically no one acknowledges here that feminism has done good and that considering how old the movement is lots of sub groups formed which do not agree on everything.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 12:29 PM
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Lots of incels have actually really interesting personalities. I dont doubt that. However, a general hostile attitude torwards women shines through and no one wants that. Again, I always had sympathy for incels, their lonelyness and bullying. But my sympathy never counted. Sex is not even the most important thing for an incel, they just want affection from a woman. If that woman loves them a lot but will have sex with them only once a week, I guarantee you they will still be super happy. Possibl…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 11:34 AM
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not sure if I posted this here already but there you go https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22847426/ So if it is not orderly you think the chances are higher for people to follow the 'women and children first' rules? or what's the point here? I havent seen any source stating in a disaster situation it is anything else than every man for themselves.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 10:02 AM
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I havent seen any proof for that just lots of 'women and children first' debunks
/r/MensRights11/06/22 09:58 AM
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critisism is one thing, hate another
/r/MensRights11/06/22 09:14 AM
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Sure. But MRA =/= men, and feminist/feminism =/= women. and even further not all MRA have exactly the same opinions just like not all feminists are the same. And considering feminism has been around longer it is no wonder there is far more in group variation. so what did they do? Looking at social structures in various contexts regardibg sex/gender That’s a problem in itself isn’t it? Ignoring the harms that feminism might have done to paint a specific picture. So the layman who just gets told f…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 09:13 AM
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sure
/r/MensRights09/06/22 08:37 AM
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It would be more accurate if you said MRAs instead of men here. MRAs could be women too that's what I mean essentially. Just curious, who or what was your “representative of feminism” before your visit to this subreddit? Because she is influential as to how DV is viewed, along with various other feminist entities (again, they apply the label to themselves, with little to no pushback). It wouldn’t make sense for me to look at a random person who happens to identify as a feminist (which again, the…
/r/MensRights09/06/22 08:36 AM
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Someone needs to point out it's flaws, expose it when they go extreme with misandry and causes discrimination against men. and yet the way you do it it seems like no one here acknowleges the good it done. When people do that about women you call them misogynist and incels but don't get me wrong I think generalizing both sexes are wrong. huh? no? I certainly do not. I'd like to see examples of women being discriminated against due to actions of MRAs. I mean I literally just said you wont find suc…
/r/MensRights09/06/22 07:36 AM
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Me too, I never had one good experience and I tried a lot so I gave up. I lost interest in helping a group of people that insulted me bc of my sex no matter how good my intentions were. yet again you state the obvious. looks matter in dating. All the incels I talked to lack the looks and the personality. Im not claiming with a good personality you "get laid" as you say and that seems to be the imporant thing, sex. And my support was never to tell them to better their looks (they did that themsel…
/r/MensRights09/06/22 07:25 AM
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No, I critisise MRA for shittalking a whole movemement that did a lot to improve women's lives. No one here ever acknowledges that or sees it as important. And there are definitely a lot of men that can be critisised for their sexist behavior today and in earlier times. Ofc they didnt call themselves MRA since it is quite new. That doesnt mean there havent been men pushing men's rights in cost of others
/r/MensRights09/06/22 07:09 AM
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wdym I was looking for it? it was all on the incel subs. They flocked there, they decided to join this sub. And there are lonely men who do NOT blame women or attractive men for all the problems in the world. are you really asking me if being attractive helps to date? bc obviously looks is a factor in dating for every sex. Im not surprised incels being on the lower attractive side but their views and ideologies are so much worse. Initially I wanted to help emotionally and support by being there …
/r/MensRights09/06/22 07:04 AM
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research on gender bias
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:50 AM
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okay let me reformulate. It is like critisising all men's rights movement bc some men specifically work against the rights of women for their own gain. You choose to see her as a representative. I have never even heard of her before looking at this sub... She is definitely not part of scholarly literature. But this is the important parts of feminism.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:48 AM
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It was the captain that forced "women and children first" he shot men who ran to the life boats, that is the difference to other catastrophy situations.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:43 AM
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You already proved this point by focusing on pulling feminism through the dirt rather than raising awareness for men's problems.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:40 AM
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sure
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:38 AM
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Um my argument is it is a lot to read and it wont happen as quick plus there are outdated sources. Okay since you only read stuff others post: https://www.undp.org/press-releases/almost-90-men/women-globally-are-biased-against-women https://carolinecriadoperez.com/book/invisible-women/ Gender Inequalities in the 21st Century: New Barriers and Continuing Constraints I can search for more if you want but that would have to wait till the weekend I posted a source for the titanic one in another comm…
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:38 AM
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They calling themselves that is a choice. Not every lonely man sees himself as incel or that it is a relationship that would solve all his problems. And the things I read there were always portraying women as the sole problem for the "decline of civilisation". I was always understanding torwards their depression and bullying but not this kind of bs.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:15 AM
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nope
/r/MensRights09/06/22 06:10 AM
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however much you think they have influence it doesnt change the fact they chose to be what they believe and what they say. And I you can hardly claim feminism has only done bad.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 11:25 PM
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Ohh noo I like cats guess my arguments arent valid. Haha good one. I read on the problems of men bc I am interested. Not the "100 things feminists did wrong" bs but actual problem men face out of my own interest and the men in my life. You have no interest in understanding the other side.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 11:14 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22847426/
/r/MensRights08/06/22 11:12 PM
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lol I then you really dont know me. What I read is what I had to in uni and I didnt study anything gender related.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 11:02 PM
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*on ships you leave out shit to make me sound ignorant. I assume you refer to the draft which is free for anyone in my country. But ofc we have to look everywhere right? same with feminism buddy
/r/MensRights08/06/22 09:55 PM
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If you give evidence you need to be ready to hear the the limitations and short commnings of it. Sure I will if you are ready to read some feminist literature. This education should go both ways otherwise you are just as ignorant as you claim I am.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 09:51 PM
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let me get this straight- he asks for evidence and then skips it bc there's too much evidence? not skip but you expect people to read this in one go? shouldnt have said that but then again the titanic was literally the only time the "woman and children first" was applied on a ship. All other cases men had the best chances of survival. lol let me get this straight. You think fighting in war means a man could not have been midogynistic? So if women go to war they cannot be sexist anymore? what log…
/r/MensRights08/06/22 09:08 PM
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I spent some time in incel subs when they were still here. Yes, they absolutely chose to be incels. Maybe not the actual sexual part but they hated "normies" and anyone not part of them. They chose to distinct themselves the way they do and they celebrate it.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 08:15 PM
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bc it's a shitton of information? I wonder who here actually read all this with a factual mind. I skipped over it a bit and see many examples from the 18th century and I wonder if anyone really thinks the men around that time were any better.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 08:08 PM
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But isnt critisising feminism as a whole as if women critisise men as a whole? There are bad apples everywhere and they should be called out instead of a group as a whole. Some people do bad things in the name of religion/movements/groups. They use it as an excuse and as a cover for themselves but it is not representative. I see a lot of hate for feminism here, not just factual critique but actual hate. And to me that is no better than the feminazis hating all men bc some of them behaved bad.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 04:41 PM
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I think I repeated myself enough now. I neither agree nor disagree. I dont feel like generalising this topic and I certainly dont feel educated enough (like professionals are) to make a statement like this.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 11:09 AM
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Again Im not taking a side here. If a rapist gets away the legal system is being weaponised just as much as when an innocent person gets jailed bc it is inherently flawed.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 09:53 AM
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Im sorry you did. I however cannot take a side here. Every situation is different and must be looked at individually. And I am not an expert, Im not a judge nor a crime investigator. If you personally are okay with a rapist getting away bc of lack of evidence that is up to you. Im not sure if every abuse victim sees it like that.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 07:55 AM
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Hard question. Id find it extremely disturbing if someone gets away with rape just like it is when someone gets away with false accusations.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 12:37 PM
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I understand all your points but my concern was never embarrassement. If you report a crime people will hear about it and should investigate it. My concern is that people will see consent to one thing as consent to another. Like in my example consenting to wear revealing clothes is not consenting to sex.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 10:41 AM
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The thing is a woman can write dirty with a man, meet him for a date and still then be raped. Anyone can at any time stop sex for any reason whatever happened before. People still sometimes put women at fault for being raped bc they wore something revealing. If phone conversations will be used to argue a woman wanted to meet a man and therefore wanted sex Im against it. I do think it is very important to get hard evidence on the offender tho. And seeing as it is difficult to prove or disprove ra…
/r/MensRights01/06/22 09:32 AM
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Jeffrey Dahmer convinced the police everything was fine when his 16 year old male victim fled from him and pleaded with the police, naked and bleeding, to believe him. He later killed and ate the boy.
/r/MensRights28/05/22 01:49 PM
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But you can say that about any orgsnisation which focuses on a specific group of people/animals/areas. Does the rainforest foundation care about the whales? probably yes but you dont have endless ressources.
/r/MensRights26/05/22 09:23 PM
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then it doesnt seem to be done with any aggression in mind
/r/MensRights18/05/22 03:43 PM
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what was the reasoning? rule 1 maybe?
/r/MensRights18/05/22 03:35 PM
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No, it is certainly not subjective. Validity, realiability and objectivity are the important factors to check how well a method measures what is wanted. Scientists need to be aware of them in order to manage and carry out a study. No, I havent. I think it is not done so simple. There are so many factors that are to be considered. Quantitative studies are one thing but qualitative are just as important. Are there biases involved? Are the results self-reported or did the participants not know what…
/r/MensRights18/05/22 05:45 AM
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I havent seen any valid studies which prove or disprove it
/r/MensRights17/05/22 03:15 PM
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Im not active on it I left it long ago. And not every man is an incel.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 02:50 PM
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okay what do you disagree with exactly? do you like generalisation? or fo you think menlove different than women?
/r/MensRights17/05/22 02:07 PM
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That is a job with supply and demand. And you dont have the same pictures others do to sell.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 06:21 AM
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and I appreciate this response!
/r/MensRights13/05/22 06:19 AM
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then you have obviously never read a scholarly book on feminism, just like feminazis. Funny how some of you are oh so similar to them.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 09:18 PM
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I already said so. You dont believe me? Im not gonna try and convince you. I support men's rights that's it. Obviously people like you make it harder a bit like feminazis ruin it for feminists but that doesnt change the valid points you guys make.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 08:55 PM
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I do edit: I support men's rights btw. you make lots of good and valid points. This is my interpretation of feminism and lots of women are with me on this point.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 06:52 PM
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It's only a pay gap if they get less money for the exact same amount and level of work.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 06:40 PM
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how are they? once the the child is there both man and woman havr the same responsibility. the ONLY reason women have a bit more time to decide is bc they get pregnant. Literally no other reason but that
/r/MensRights07/05/22 04:07 PM
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women get the choice BC they get pregant. What about this biological feature u dont understand? do you swell up like a ballon? do you lose fertility when aborting? why you ignore the biological difference?
/r/MensRights07/05/22 04:06 PM
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yeah all cases that should be adressed yet men should still not be able to have no risk under normal circumstances
/r/MensRights07/05/22 03:51 PM
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so what are you telling me? you dont support male rape victims?
/r/MensRights07/05/22 03:50 PM
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lol I literally support men who are being raped or their sperm being stolen. They deserve the right to withdraw from child support. Others who just want zero risk I dont support. How is that mistandrist?!
/r/MensRights07/05/22 01:34 PM
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I dont see it as zero reproductive rights if I can use contraceptives. But Id never gouvern another persons body just so I have no responsibility.
/r/MensRights07/05/22 01:33 PM
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you did. basically said if women get it men should too intstead of just saying women shiuld nor get it... havent seen one law where it is punishable. In which country it is? No, I argue against any men under normal circumstances being completely free from risk and responsibility. All the special cases you mentioned I agree with u.
/r/MensRights07/05/22 01:03 PM
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the risk of having sex? are you serious rn? if the man can opt out of fatherhood the woman would bear the risk of pregnancy and all that comes with it alone. Apart from the bodily risks with the very obvious being pregnancy (or abortion which I already explained is a fucked up procedure) all the finacial and timely resources would be on her. If a woman wants a child at some point then an abortion is a bad decision. It can lower your fertility and has many other drawbacks. This is as if men were …
/r/MensRights07/05/22 10:12 AM
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I highly doubt the gouvernment would go through with this
/r/MensRights07/05/22 09:59 AM
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Why make the law gendered other than sexism and forcing men to pay for the product of their rape? Anyone convicted for the act of conception should automatically lose their rights unless granted by the victim. Im literally against rapist to get anything other than a jail sentence. The fact that you want male rapists to get custody is disturbing. . Removing a condom without telling your partner is a crime. no it's not. And really? Instead of fighting for valid points you want to go ahead and stri…
/r/MensRights07/05/22 09:56 AM
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I dont support rapistst or pedophiles but you arent talking about these cases. You talk about any man being able to be completely free of any responsibility. lol why would a rapist fathers get custody lol wtf. A biological father should have the right to adopt if the mother carries out the child but doesnt want it, which they do as far as I know. However, you again talked about any man being able to opt out of fatherhood. You want to put all responsibility of sex on women. No explenation as to w…
/r/MensRights06/05/22 08:53 PM
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It is a false assumption of you to think that doesn't sometimes happen Sometimes also women work and the man doesnt. We can make examples like this back and forth so what? still it is a fact that both parents in most cases have equal responsibility over a child be that in resources or time. The only difference is that the woman pushes the baby out. Reversals are expensive, painful, and unreliable. abortions are expensive and being an able to get another child is unreliable. And getting tubes tie…
/r/MensRights06/05/22 08:18 PM
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Reproduction is not fair. It's not fair that the woman gets pregnant, yet that's how it. If the man can opt out of child support the complete risk when having sex is on the woman. No risk at all for the man, all for the woman. How would this be fair.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 07:44 PM
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A false assumption for most of us around here. In a divorce, a male provider is still on the hook to provide after divorce. This sometimes, but less frequently impacts female providers as well. It's wrong in both cases. Both parents are on duty for their children till they are considered grown ups. Why would you think otherwise is beyond me. And it is a false assumption of you to think that women dont work after having children aka the man has to work and do child care alone. If they never want …
/r/MensRights06/05/22 06:31 PM
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pregnancy (or abortion)
/r/MensRights06/05/22 06:22 PM
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lol okay good talk
/r/MensRights06/05/22 06:21 PM
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No. Many people think it is slavery to provide all of the financial support and half the childcare. you dont have to do any child care if the mother has full costudy. I assume if you are that focused on the money you didnt want the child to begin with. In shared costudy cases usually both parties work. A first trimester abortion is lower risk than pregnancy. yet the risks are great and not pleasant nor easy. If you think abortion is a good solution to unwanted children then you should have nothi…
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:39 PM
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What does war have to do with pregnancy? I talk about specifically that anything else has no space in this conversation.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:31 PM
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and single fathers should not have a right to child support either?
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:30 PM
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which would lead to one single person having to provide finacially and at the same time care for a child. Seeing as many here think it is close to "slavery" for 2 people to provide for a child for one it would be impossible. So what is outright a free decision (can keep the child alone) is in fact not, a woman would be forced to abort. On top of that abortion bears many risks and is in no way an easy solution. https://www.compasscare.info/health-information/abortion/abortion-risks-and-side-effec…
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:28 PM
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Both the man and the woman carry the same amount of responsibility when it comes to ressources be that money or time. The difference is that the woman faces the bodily consequences. Either she stays pregnant and carries out a baby or she gets an abortion which has lots of risks and drawbacks.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:18 PM
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should women too if she delivers the baby for the guy? In other words, should single fathers have the right of child support?
/r/MensRights06/05/22 05:08 PM
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both should have it that's it.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 09:09 AM
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That's a given no one should do that no matter the sex. Harder. Lots of women watch porn as well, and enjoy strippers etc. However, if prostitution and sexual work in general are forced in a way it's utterly wrong. I support people who want to make money like this but never if it is forced. Just like I dont have anything against men who use such services from non forced prostitution. However, men who dont care about it being forced and use the service no matter are human garbage. Here is the thi…
/r/MensRights25/04/22 09:54 PM
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If they are happy to be alone if their standards cant be met I dont see a problem. It's the same with anyone really. You dont have to date women who just look good. That's your standard and you can have it if you dont mind being single, just like them.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 12:42 PM
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Im not talking about unconscious staring. That is mostly someone focused on the training not even realising the environment. Im talking about active glaring and watching. Lol so women need to hide doing squads bc men are animals who cannot control themselves? I dont know any woman who does that. All woman I know go to the gym to work out and to get fit. First of all stop pulling numbers out of your ass. Where did you get that 90/10 ratio? Second, do you understand consent? if a woman tells you t…
/r/MensRights16/04/22 02:17 PM
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Being depressed for not getting oral anymore seems a bit exessive. Also it seems to be a different situaion if they once gave oral they didnt seem to have a problem with it at the time and enjoyed it even. But people wont stay exactly the same and sexual needs and desires may change. If you get depressed abd consider leaving your parnter of years bc they wont give oral anymore I wonder how good the relationship was then. I think people need to make their boundaries clear in the beginning but you…
/r/MensRights16/04/22 02:06 PM
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did you read the edit? It's not about him not wanting to do oral really but about him not expressing that boundary in the beginning. For her it seems to be very important and she would have probably never dated the guy that long if she had known they are not sexually compatible.
/r/MensRights16/04/22 01:59 PM
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Did you read the edit? She isnt angry he wont do it she is angry he wasnt honest about it. It seems to be pretty important to her so he should have made his boundaries clear from the beginning.
/r/MensRights16/04/22 01:57 PM
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In an edit she wrote she isnt angry he wouldnt do it but bc he wasnt honest that he just doesnt want to do it. Essentially she wasted time with a guy who she isnt sexually compatible with considering this seems to be very important to her it would have been good if he told her in the beginning.
/r/MensRights16/04/22 01:54 PM
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It is okay. Do men want men only gyms for the same reasoning?
/r/MensRights16/04/22 09:34 AM
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yes, you can have any feelings you want but making other gym users uncomfortable by staring or commenting vulgarly is not included in that right. Idc if it's with female gyms only or with on site security there must be a way to stop harassment be that of men or women.
/r/MensRights16/04/22 09:32 AM
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What exactly is a "girly man"? Can someone define that for me? A person with a therapy cat? So he's talking about people with anxiety and that is girly bc only girls have mental problems? No one likes to date mentally unstable people. There is obviously a gradient but in the end that's just a fact.
/r/MensRights27/03/22 05:36 PM
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Dont get me wrong. It's way better to have it than not. But I think it's time to improve it.
/r/MensRights26/03/22 08:02 AM
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source?
/r/MensRights25/03/22 10:54 PM
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Feminists arent against male birth control... The only thing I saw which a guy confused with that was an article in which women were pissed at how simple the birth control is supposed to be. I mean we got the pill since the 50's and it is still a huge hormonal impact on the body and suddenly scientists are like hey here we got a non hormonal, non invasive contraceptive. Just feels like no one cared to put in more effort since women just dealt with it. No one is opposed to male birth control. It …
/r/MensRights25/03/22 10:41 PM
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huh yeah one woman talking about it totally shows that so many women want this. The fact you believe lots of women are dumb enough to do this to themselves based on a video shows how sexist you are. You didnt even comment on men tricking women into pregnancy. Just avoiding it wont change it. Again, everyone needs to use contraceptives. More for men is a important but I do not suggest any person to just not use protection bc the other one said he/she would.
/r/MensRights24/03/22 11:04 PM
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I highly doubt there are lots of women who would go through pregnancy and child care just to get child support. And even if a woman plans that use your own condoms and dont leave them out of sight. There are however lots of men who trick women into pregnancy. So I can only repeat that everyone should always use contraceptives and never trust the sexual partner. Even if no one tries to deceive the other pregnancy can still happen. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/study-…
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:26 PM
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when did a woman ever say such a thing?
/r/MensRights24/03/22 10:00 PM
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when have women ever been opposed to male birth control?
/r/MensRights23/03/22 10:05 PM
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hat about her choice to say no? Or other forms of birth control? Yeah if you dont want children dont have sex. This argument goes both ways and I think we both know it's not happening. Sure Id say if you really dont want childern use several forms of birthcontrol and refuse a partner which doesnt want to use them. Okay awesome. Who said I was against any form of birth control? good then the easy solution for any men not wanting children is a vasectomy. They're the only ones who are forced to. Yo…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 01:10 PM
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When you remove choice, you remove responsibility. Simple as that. What about the choice of having sex? Me'sn job at creating the baby ends there so does his choice. And dont tell me women have sex too. Yes, but again they suffer the pregnancy. You want to punish women for that. What about his choice to get a vasectomy? Again if you consider abortion as a good solution for women you cannot be against vasectomy. https://www.compasscare.info/health-information/abortion/abortion-risks-and-side-effe…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 08:44 AM
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If men got pregnant you would not talk like that. You cant take all responsibility from men just bc they do not get pregnant. That would put all consequnces of sex completely on women. And if you think taking care of a child with 2 people is such a burden then one person alone could not make it at all meaning the woman would be forced to abort. And abortion is not that easy of a solution either. It has many risks and side effects. One who argues a woman can "just" get an abortion I say the man c…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 01:57 AM
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Im done arguing with you. Good thing I have never met a man in my life who thinks like you do. You want no responsiblity and fuck around? keep dreaming.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 04:53 PM
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Have a healthy understanding of what the problems of both sexes are and teach both aka a holistic perspective and no simple black white thinking
/r/MensRights18/03/22 03:09 PM
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yeah right? why is this even gendered? If the damage done is taken into account to determine a punishment then that is what should be looked at not the sex of the victim/assaulter.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 02:58 PM
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No there aren't like i said if "consecuences" means "being forced to pay for a child" then women doesn't have "consecuences". If the woman has the child she carries as mich finacial consequences as the man... do you cobsider child care to be free? then men already HAVE CONSECUENCES like losing his "bodily autonomy" (because sperm is a part of his body that the woman uses against his will) the man chose to have sex tho he willingly gives his sperm knowing pregnancy does NOT affect his body. deal …
/r/MensRights18/03/22 02:26 PM
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I don’t like the sort of “manipulation” that you speak of, although all seduction could be seen as manipulation no thus sort of manipulation is absolutely unacceptable. If you cannot accept your partners boundaries leave, dont try to force it. And seduction is no where near the same. One is literally a form of using emotional power you have over someone to get what you want even if they do not want it. Seduction just means you present yourself in an alluring way the other person is not put into …
/r/MensRights18/03/22 10:52 AM
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? you don't seem to mind with women "having sex without consequences" lol but there ARE consequences if a woman gets pregnant. You just want the man to bear none of it. having a child is not a consecuence of having sex, but a conscuence of the woman CHOOSING TO HAVE IT. Children are not a consequence of having sex?? The man has no part in it? The woman choses essentially bc her body is fucked either way, staying pregant or getting an abortion. For what i can see your whole reason is just envy, y…
/r/MensRights18/03/22 10:47 AM
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lol okay you want sex without consequences, good luck with that.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 02:53 PM
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He has the choice to do a vasectomy use a condom on top of that and look for sexual partners that too use another form of contraception. The man has the choice when having sex aka what contraceptives he can use. If you think abortion with all the side effects is a good way to deal with an unwanted pregnancy then you must support vasectomy as well. And ignoring biology bc it doesnt happen to you is fucked up. You want zero responsibility when having sex putting it all on women.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 02:04 PM
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Hm okay but in the article it also says "Matthew Claughton, managing director at Olliers Solicitors, said that provided the accused honestly believed there was consent, he is acting within the law" Granted that "too drunk" is a vague definition but I think it is safe to say that there are certain pointers. Like the other text suggests, slurring words, falling asleep, vomiting is too drunk.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 11:45 AM
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I never heard of such a law. Do you have the source?
/r/MensRights17/03/22 11:03 AM
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Coercion for sex can be under influence or not. But it essentially means that a person is "blackmailed" or manipulated to have sex. Again, this does not exclusively happen to women. It is a fact that women regret having had sex more often while men regret not having had sex (I wont post a source now bc I learned that in an evolutionary psychology lecture but I can look it up if you are interested). It is absolutely not okay to claim assault when that did not happen just to gain something. It har…
/r/MensRights17/03/22 10:42 AM
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The advice that’s given is that a man should not have sex with a woman who has consumed alcohol I tried to find that in the text but I can't Whether or not he’s consumed alcohol does apparently irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Men can be as much victim of sexual assault as women and everyone needs to assure consent.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 10:31 AM
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I have never met a MGTOW irl. I dont doubt there are genuanly good guys who simply decided the path of marriage and family is not for them which is perfectly fine. What I saw in the subreddits has nothing to do with that tho and it puts a damper on the movement. But then again I dont really see those guys as real MGTOW since it doesnt seem to be about that for them.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:10 AM
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It applies to established couples too. Remember even being married does not change the idea of consent requirements. The text doesnt seem to be for married couples. But then again, ofc being married changes nothing about consent. But I assume how you communicate consent is way different. Still it is there. That’s why it’s been suggested that if you have sex with your wife after she’s drunk a glass of wine, you could be called a rapist. But what situation exactly then? bc that could as well be fu…
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:05 AM
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but okay I dont really see a problem with discussing things beforehand. This seems to be on first time partners too not a couple situation. Also it basically just says consenting to one eg kissing doesnt mean you consent to another eg sex too. I think that's pretty fair. I mean consent is not just a robotic yes. It can be communicated in different ways be that verbal or non verbal. But I mean this guide is literally for the people I talked about... those who think you can go further and further …
/r/MensRights15/03/22 08:17 PM
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lol Idk why you keep pushing this on me. I dont think it is necessary just as much as I think anyone can stop sex at any time for whatever reason. There are people tho who believe once the sex started it has to be "finished". And such extreme believes generate the opposite extreme aka verbal outright consent.
/r/MensRights15/03/22 07:46 PM
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Well if we’re saying it’s equal chances of identifying with m/wgtow as a man or a woman who’s quit dating but why would we assume that? What if women just dont care as much about dating all together? you dont need to join a movement to do your own thing. it’s fair to assume they’ve probably had a worse time than people who keep dating. or that people had a bad time dating them and they just make it out to be their own decision. Have you been on such a sub and see how they talk about women? if th…
/r/MensRights15/03/22 07:11 PM
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you got an example?
/r/MensRights15/03/22 06:52 PM
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okay when did I talk about sex? again consensual sex is not what I talked about did I?
/r/MensRights15/03/22 06:48 PM
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bc it's not established as a group it means women dont do it? How do you know all women who want to be single identify with that specific group? And is the only proof of a negative relationship experience that you give up on dating?
/r/MensRights15/03/22 04:05 PM
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Related to sex, the only point is to not be forced. Asking your partner for "consent" for each and everything would be another level of stupidity. who suggests that? and how does that apply to women getting sexulised outside of sexual context? do you not agree that people need to be wanted to be sexualised otherwise it isnt right?
/r/MensRights15/03/22 04:01 PM
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lol what? you think consent is bs bc of a funny comic? Consent is basic decency and should be considered by each and everyone.
/r/MensRights15/03/22 12:48 PM
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No, having sex is absolutely not sexist. The basic thing is consent. Women are sexual creatures as much as men and sometimes want to be sexualised. That is then consent. It is problematic tho when a woman is sexualised doing absolutely normal things in normal situations for example at work. Also posting pics is no invitation to send vulgar messages or a dick pic.
/r/MensRights15/03/22 09:52 AM
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lots of them ranting about how evil women are is the sexist part not them not wanting to have sex (which is not really true also)
/r/MensRights15/03/22 09:44 AM
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bc it has more google hits men are more affected by relationships...
/r/MensRights15/03/22 09:42 AM
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then you should not want women to carry that burden of pregnancy alone but that is what you suggest. And you have no solutions for the problems youd create for them with that approach. the moment you have the responsibility of a child, its your problem, whether your the one who's pregnant or not. everytime they've researched new male contraceptives, there's been backlash so... exactly like I said the body of the woman is fucked either way, if she choses labor or abortion. There should be no pres…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 04:50 PM
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and here you are acting like abortions is the easiest thing bc women "can" do it. You are a complete hypocrite then if you dont have the same attitude torwards vasectomy. Let's say it's the same as hard. If you say women can just do an abortion you need to say the same for vasectomy for men. Like I said the goverment won't pay you dont even try to suggest a solutiom for women bc there is none. You want to punish women for getting pregmant and that shows your utterly lack of care for the opposite…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 04:38 PM
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no, i think that as long as a man takes all reasonable precautions, he should not be liable for 18 years of his life. How is it fair that women get pregnant and not men? You cannot punish women bc they are biologically disadvantaged. But that is what you want. The woman is fucked either way. What do you suggest for women then? Enlighten me. And just get an abortion is not a viable answer considering all the side effects. https://www.compasscare.info/health-information/abortion/abortion-risks-and…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 04:21 PM
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because at least they have a choice between poverty or abortion. MEN DON'T. how is that fair? bc men don't face any bodily consequences. All the other consequences are the same for men or woman. The only difference is what happens to the body. And like I said it would not be a choice then bc women would be forced to abort bc they just could not take care of a child alone. Excep if you think it's fine to let a baby and the mother starve to death. who says i didn't? i just didn't include the risks…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 03:47 PM
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Of course women want this. Here's the rub. Men want this too very careful with statements like that. Wanting to date and wanting to execute sexual power are very different things I definitely dont want the latter. Women do not want to be raped or killed. That is what they want. The thing is, if you happen to be a guy that a woman does not find attractive and you approach her, you're risking more than just rejection. I acknowledge that problem for less attractive men it is possible to spread awar…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 03:42 PM
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You didnt say "some women" either. And I never claimed women dont harass men. Yet you seem to think that and try to prove it to me. I very clearly stated anyone can harass anyone. So you cannot with certainty say if power was abused by men or not before that incident. I know how a work hirarchy works that does not exclude the possibility of power abuse. I never disagreed with you. I just mentioned the possibility that power was abused before and you have no knowledge of it. And I said both men a…
/r/MensRights12/03/22 05:48 PM
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you underestimate how tricky people get with this, and seeing the pill doesn't mean she actually takes it. yeah but if a guy is this concerned with getting a woman pregnant then a condom itself would not be enough at all right? it's 80% effective. I mean you calculate the rist of a woman sabotaging the condom but not the ineffectiveness of the condom itself? And if you fear it that much you can be just as tricky with where you keep your condoms. https://www.insider.com/male-birth-control-gel-wom…
/r/MensRights12/03/22 05:40 PM
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That kind of sounds like you think if given the option all women would relentlessly abuse the system. Is that really what happened? ALL women abused it in your anecdote? was there any suggesting of men abusing their power before (be it sexual or not?) yeah obvioulsly I know that sexual harassment happens to both sexes as I stated. Still does not prove that women try to weed out unattractive men from the dating world. The gist is some people suck others dont, you cannot bind it onto a sex. I cant…
/r/MensRights12/03/22 04:46 PM
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Okay but it is a fact that sometimes women want to be sexual and want to be sexually approached. The post here suggests that women want to execute power over men. But is it really that strange of a concept that women find attractive men more attractive? Women like sex too. I mean if a specific sexual talk is just in general seen as harassment then not even husband and wife could be sexy and kinky with each other. The importance is consent. But the post here seems a bit too much conspiracy theory…
/r/MensRights12/03/22 04:36 PM
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sure, it works unless she gets her hands on them and sabotages them. Then dont carry them easily accessable for the woman? Ask her to show you the pill she's using. this is hard when there's a huge outcry/backlash when people suggest a new contraceptive for men. Who is opposed to that? I know that the pill for men was put on ice bc it has side effects but those were close to the side effects of the pill for women. It was men who oppsed to it bc of that. the same applies to men and unplanned preg…
/r/MensRights12/03/22 03:52 PM
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Yeah seems to be a valid study. Tho it is 25 years old it would be time for a redo. As far as I know better looking people are in general perceived as better that is not reduced to a sex. But it is dangerous to view this as a standard. It would be interesting to know how the short stories were written. As this article suggests men are also more likely to see friendly behavior of women as flirting. And women perceive certain situations as more secually harassing than men.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 03:39 PM
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A study is what actually gives insight. It shows the actual numbers and it shows the reasoning. And if you make such a claim it is very important to support it with evidence. I have many anectotal stories of women being sexually harassed. Does that mean I should see any man as a sexual harassment threat? You say you dont talk about the "real" cases of sexual harassment and that you acknowledge them but you dont seem to really understand the female point of view. Sexual harassment happens to anyo…
/r/MensRights12/03/22 02:31 PM
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Do you have a source on the claim that harrassment is correlated to attactive level of the men? I have not found any study on that. I have found an article which states that better looking and feminine women are more likely to be believed whem they say they have been harrassed. https://www.verywellmind.com/how-the-idea-of-prototypical-beauty-affects-response-to-sexual-harassment-claims-5096887
/r/MensRights12/03/22 12:29 AM
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what do biological facts have to do with mens rights?
/r/MensRights12/03/22 12:18 AM
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I dont support forced child supoort on rape victims. However, a man needs to use protection. Just bc the woman takes the pill it's not 100% safe. And she could be lying about using birth control. Always use a condom. Trickery and deceit us wrong but either way the man needs to use a condom. Also, there need to be more contraceptives for men. Considering the man faces none if the bodily consequences it makes sense to give the woman longer to decide. Pregnancy alone puts a huge strain on the body …
/r/MensRights10/03/22 12:27 PM
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Men and women have this choice right up until their part of making the baby is done. With men that is ejaculation, with women it's pregnancy.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 06:52 AM
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me too
/r/MensRights08/03/22 08:09 AM
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I didnt even know and I am a woman. Id rather just have a human day and lots of animal days. On cat day people would bring out their cats for everyone to pet. Now that is a day to celebrate I could get behind.
/r/MensRights08/03/22 06:06 AM
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men are already told they should abstain if they don't want a kid but consent to sex is not consent to parenting for women. No, men are told to use contraceptives. There are still fewer options for men but it is in the making. This is what you should strive for and demand. More and better contraceptives for men not to free men from responsibility. Just a note here, it doesn't force women No, not to actually have the child. However, once pregnant there is no easy way out. You seem to think that h…
/r/MensRights01/03/22 01:39 PM
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Extremists did that not feminists. Feminism is examining gender as a whole. For example feminist work does not believe men to be less of a carer than women. The more this thinking habit is accepted by the general puplic the more fathers will have equal chances to get custody of their children or shared custody.
/r/MensRights01/03/22 06:59 AM
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And yet here you go again. but she has recourse - whether that's adoption or abortion - to back out of parenthood should she not feel ready for it Exactly bc she gets pregnant. If the man did he would have the last word. You cannot ignore the biological difference in man and woman in this discussion. , a mother can give the child up for adoption against the father's will, even if he does want the child Where? In my home country that is not the case. Neither does it seem to be in the US according…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 11:14 PM
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exactly real feminists support men's rights just as much as women's.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 09:51 PM
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point proven you have a nice evening sir
/r/MensRights28/02/22 09:08 PM
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haha belittling me now huh? easy way to spot when a person has no argument left. I stand my point and I highly doubt you will ever have a good answer for the last paragraph of questions I sent. Try to think of a womans perspective and imagine getting being at risk of getting pregant.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 09:02 PM
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A woman does not always consent to getting pregnant. and a man cannot consent to it or not bc he is not at risk of it. Both do have the same legal ability to consent to parenthood just at different times bc of the biological differences. And again, your arguments is inherently flawed bc you only want this to work one way not for the father who acutally wants to have the child. "Men do go to prison for being too broke to pay child support" then you live in a shit country? it's not like this every…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 08:38 PM
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So it only works one way for you. Yk everyone here talks about being able to choose as a man but it is always about "getting out" of an unwanted pregnancy not truly about parental rights. Otherwise you would also want for men to be able to decide if he wants to be a father and keep the child even if the woman doesnt. But forcing a woman to carry out a child is just as unreasonable as letting her alone with the bodily consequences and the financial ones. Stop acting like only the the man makes sa…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 06:44 PM
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And bc women get pregnant they should carry the sole responsibility from sex? People dont go to prison for being poor but for trying to get out of paying at all. I don't talk about rape cases or sperm stealing. I do not support women who do that and I dont think they should have the right to force a man for child support.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 06:38 PM
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so you think women should be forced to have a child aka not getting out af a pregnancy?
/r/MensRights28/02/22 05:36 PM
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What if you truly believe it was murder? What if you lose your fertility (a possible side effect of abortion) and might never have a chance of having children again? What if you think you'll regret it years later? This is not as easy for anyone as it would be for you.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 05:12 PM
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Nope, Im not. Im not really down to be insulted tho. You out words in my mouth too and dont acknowlegde the stuff I say or simply dismiss it. Again Im pro people. You are anti feminist. Good luck with that in your life.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 04:40 PM
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It puts them in a situation where they either do a two person job alone or they abort and risk to lose fertility. As such doesnt stop women yeah but it will heavily push them torwards abortion. Would you want to take care of a baby absolutely alone?
/r/MensRights28/02/22 04:38 PM
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But biologically it will never be the same. It will never be comparable completely if you dont ignore biology. Men cannot get pregnant and as such they do not bear that risk.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 04:04 PM
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um no? Did I claim any of that? I said, women get pregnant and thus they have the last word bc it is their body affected. All other consequences are the same for men and women. I do not support the rape of anyone in any way. Neither stealing sperm. I expect both men and women to properly use birth control, always both not just one.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 03:22 PM
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Okay I sum up my points bc I get nowhere with you. Any sex can be raped. Any sex can be an asshole. It is people who abuse ideologies to their advandage not the ideology itself. I have no problem either to call out bs no matter against what. Hate feminism if you want but that will bring you nowhere. Be pro-men not anti-feminist. Have a nice day
/r/MensRights28/02/22 03:19 PM
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So when it forces women to do things they don't want to do, it's a problem. But when it forces men to do things they don't want to do, it isn't? But it forces the woman too? She has the same reponsibilities. Only difference is she gets pregnant or aborts aka has the bodily consequences. So you'd apply that argument to men too? If they dont want children they should not have sex? Why is it okay to remove his financial freedom for 18 years against his will for her 9 months of chosen pregnancy? The…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 03:14 PM
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But that is to be expected of men too? If you dont want and unexpected pregnancy dont fuck around. If you expect it from women I assume you do for men too. But how realisic is that? Doesnt it make more sense to make sure people use birth control. Id say finalize the pill for men. If both a man and a woman uses it the chance for pregnancy is almost zero.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 03:01 PM
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Im not a femcel. And let me reformulate. Only women bear the risk of pregnancy. Oh and all the other points you made are being risked by women too. So in the end the difference in pregnancy again.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 02:57 PM
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okay then the word you are looking for is misandrist. That just speaks to educators overlooking the "unfortunate" warts of their fields Or the specific person is simply not as relevant. Completely irrelevant to anything. no it's not? you made it out as if she was the sole murderer and basically became an activist right after those events. And no, it would only be the comparable if she raped him. If that is your opinion does that mean no murderer should have a chance for redemption? death sentenc…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 01:41 PM
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So what is your solution? If you men can decide they do not want to support the child the woman will either work gor two or she will have to abort. Essentially it would gravely influence the decision making. As long as the gouvernment wouldnt come up with resources one parent would provide to compensate for the father it would pracrically force her to abort or carry the work of 2. Considering only the woman bears the physical risks of sex it is unfair to call it a double standard. It has to be l…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 01:14 PM
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Guys paying to sleep with minors does not sound like incel? Apart from that do they have to be incels to violate women's rights? Can only feminists violate men's rights? Interestingly enough in university she was never mentioned. I didnt major in gender studies but sociological and philosiphical fields often cross read. Im not with this woman, no sane feminist believes men cannot be raped. No sane person is for Trump either yet he was president one of the most influential positions. Donna Hylton…
/r/MensRights27/02/22 05:49 PM
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There are incels in positions of power. Just look at Texas rn and their abortion laws. Look at Trump who literally talked about grabbing women by the pussy. What about Epstein and his catering of minor girls to politicians? There is good and bad in all sexes. Feminism as such is not the problem but some fake feminists which abuse this movement. You need to stop beliving those women to be feminists just for the sake of hating feminism. I can claim I am a panda bear and I doubt you'd take that as …
/r/MensRights27/02/22 12:01 PM
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No you just claim that it is feminism which causes all this as a whole while you focus on those kinds of "feminists" who arent really feminists. This is as if I focused on incels as the core of men's rights movement. Lol what? Are you saying that women were at no point oppressed and made sound unreasonable for saying so?
/r/MensRights27/02/22 07:11 AM
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and why do you think such "feminists" talk like that? it's exactly the same reason, years of frustration. Now doing the same thing is helpfull how? People will take you as serious as the feminazis if you behave like them. This is not men vs women. If you make this sub about that then it's not pro men just anti women.
/r/MensRights26/02/22 09:50 PM
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what woman is? All the top comments here have this "in yo face feminists" vibe. As if Feminists want this. As if in this situation the most important thing is to "show" feminist how wrong they are. As if this would invalidate the problems the other sex faces. I actually thought this sub cares about men and their problems but it's just another childish anti feminist, men vs woman shit.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 07:54 PM
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I'm not sure where you got those numbers from. As far as I see the first report talks about the support accused get at schools and if it is treated confidential. I am absolutely for a sharp investigation for any rape or assault case considering there are false rape accusations and real rape cases which are overlooked. In the second report it says 8% of the adult American population is falsly accused of rape/domestic violence/assault or child abuse this number includes women. According to google …
/r/MensRights23/02/22 11:55 AM
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source?
/r/MensRights23/02/22 10:03 AM
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In india regretting sex counts as rape? I consider it as pretty low to try and manupulate someone into sex, it's not rape but it is unacceptable. Also anyone can stop sex at any time just bc you wanted it in the beginning does not mean you cannot stop it. If in India it specifically counts as rape to not marry a woman you promised to wouldnt that heighten the numbers of false "rape" accusations.
/r/MensRights23/02/22 10:02 AM
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so it doesnt count? men cannot breach men's rights?
/r/MensRights22/02/22 05:14 PM
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Source? How many men do not report rape tho? and how many women? Is rape any better if it's not by a stranger?
/r/MensRights22/02/22 04:05 PM
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I remember that ok cupid data report. It also mentionen that while women rate men more harshly they still go for the average guy while it is the guys that try their chances with the top women. No one ever mentiones that. Apart from that many more men use dating apps they are hardly a represenation of the whole dating scene. I would like to add the following. What does the dating behavior of women have to do with men's rights? As far as I am concerned anyone can go for anyone. People can have any…
/r/MensRights22/02/22 04:04 PM
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The article doesnt sound like it's any kind of propaganda it's simply one source that was checked. Ofc there is always the fact that some things are not reported but that is the case with almost any criminal activity. Still there should be a rape flair.
/r/MensRights22/02/22 03:06 PM
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source?
/r/MensRights22/02/22 01:59 PM
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This is basic consent. She decided to post those pics. Women are sexual creatures as much as men and if they want to sexualize themselves it is completely up to them. As such anyone is free to look at those pics however it is no invitation to send dick pics or be vulgar.
/r/MensRights22/02/22 01:44 PM
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Where did bell hooks deny violence against men? But there is scientific basis. For example and nicely collected in this book 'Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men' by Caroline Criado Perez. But feminist ideology in itselve is not the enemy but individuals who promote against men. Suicide rates of men are concerning and need to be addressed and no woman in her right mind would consider this a problem which does not concern them. It's not that feminism believes men as a …
/r/MensRights12/02/22 01:40 PM
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This comment does not address car crashes? It's about diseases. Funny enough I was about to recommend you the same book as the first commentor did in which I read about car crash dummies in the first place. It's called "Invisible women - Data bias in a world designed for men" by Caroline Criado Perez. It also has a chapter on diseases and female participation on clinical trials. The article you linked shows for example that worlds like "women's health" are used more often than "men's health". Th…
/r/MensRights12/02/22 01:06 PM
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yeah and there are men out there who dont believe in violence against men done by women so what is your point? There are also men who dont believe in sexual harrassement against men. And ofc many who joke about female teachers Again, if you believe extremists over scholars you are no better than the extremists themselves. No use to talk to someone who only sees feminism in the way extremists do.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 12:01 PM
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It means that also lots of women call each other slut for living out their sexual desires and lots of men call each other pussy for showing emotions. There can be nany more examples but the gist is sexisms is upheld by both sexes.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 09:58 AM
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That means I am not against men. Apparently I should be according to you.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 09:55 AM
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The duluth model is over 40 years old and it is a tgeory which can be applied to both sexes. The Violence against women's act almost 30. Violence against men is wildy recognised today. Very recently, there was a law passed in Texas which makes it almost impossible for a woman to abort. More and more institutions for rape and violence are genderless which it should be. Do not take extremists aka feminazis as the base of feminism. Otherwise accept incels as the base of men's rights movement.
/r/MensRights12/02/22 09:51 AM
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If you take extremists as the base of feminism it is as if I took incels as the base of men's rights movements. You dont need to tell me about male problems I know of them. That does not in any way invalidate the problem of women. There are enough laws and instiutions with a purly male perspectives. Take the abortion laws in texas or the fact that medication doses and car crash dummies are made for men. But the point stands extremists are not feminists. If you believe so then you must believe in…
/r/MensRights12/02/22 09:36 AM
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It doesnt sound inflammatory to me. I dont think you critisise the feminist institution but the self-proclaimed feminists who are in fact extremists. I doubt they have read a book on feminism or have actually read studies on sex differences and different treatment of the sexes. They do not take a scholarly approach which leads to induviduals taking individual experiences as the norm. Sadly such women can be anywhere in politics etc just like terrble men can be anywhere. I implore anyone to read …
/r/MensRights12/02/22 07:13 AM
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For me it isnt. Im not against men. If you are against women bc of your sex/their sex then you are an extremist and no better than the women who cry "men are inferior" or bs like this
/r/MensRights11/02/22 09:49 PM
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It's not women against men
/r/MensRights11/02/22 06:44 PM
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sounds kind of anti women. You imply it is mainly women making problems for men If I said it's mostly men against women. Women are just reacting what would you think of it? Sounds like pushing the fault to one sex
/r/MensRights11/02/22 06:43 PM
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then Im not talking about you. Women who are anti men are extremists and those are never good no matter the sex.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 06:19 PM
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Im happy to hear that. Im not scared or angry and I do think men need to be heard same as women. There are some men on here who seem to be anti women rather than pro men. We need to remember it's not men against women. It's not a gender fight. Inequalities are often promoted by both sexes against their own.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 03:43 PM
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thank you! it's not really medical but I heard similar stories from people having problems at the hair dresser. So women who want short hair are asked if they are sure bc they wont find a partner, same with men who got long hair which they are hasseled for.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 11:27 AM
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If a man decides to have sex he makes that decision as well.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 05:56 PM
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It is sexist that there are no better male contraceptives. In the end I preferece the biologically disadvantaged. If men got pregnant they should have the same rights as women now.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 05:56 PM
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lol what? you compare being a father to slavery? It takes a man to make a child or at least a man's sperm. If a woman didnt steal sperm then it is he knew the risk. Women only decide bc they have the bodily consequences. Putting a baby up for adoption does not take away the bodily conseqences. Idk why you completely ignore biology in your argument.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 05:53 PM
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I dont think they are biologically equal. And bc of men like you who dont care about the biological differences we got laws in place. I understand the struggle men face in that situation and I support better contraceptives for men. But not laws that will force women into raising a child alone. You dont suggest for example the state to financially support the woman if the father doesnt want the child. It's a 2 person job. If the woman would have to care for the child completely alone she would ab…
/r/MensRights07/02/22 05:15 PM
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men do not have to deal with the bodily consequences tho. How do you implement that in your thought process?
/r/MensRights07/02/22 04:27 PM
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So bc there are bad safty and health laws for men carrying boxes this should be extented to other situations? No those laws should be changed. Women have a disadvantage when having sex. They are in the shit when getting pregnant.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 04:22 PM
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Women carry the risk of pregnancy aka all the bodily consequences. If they abort they can lose fertility, if they dont they give birth, a huge strain on the body.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 03:07 PM
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This is just a horrible thing you just described. You invalitate the rape experiences of men with that statement which is simply gross. Rape is a traumatic experience for any sex. Saying men don't care about it is terrible. If you go check the source that I posted in my initial comment then you see no, that is simply not true. According to this source, men are not as likely to be raped as women. I'm open to be taught differently with those statistics you mentioned once you post them. If you want…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 02:34 PM
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Where do you get this "far, far from uncommon" from? And what proof fo you have #metoo is bs? Aka why do you believe women do not get harassed as often? I posted a source that looked at actual data. Rape for men is way more common but in discussions like this it always seems to be about false rape accusation. Why is that? This should not be the main focus when rape against men is much more pressing. And neither should it divide men and women. Rape is rape, harassement is harassememt no matter th…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 01:38 PM
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I think there need to be way more effective contraceptives for men rather than condoms. Like this they can actively protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies. It's not a priviledge a woman can decide if she keeps a baby it's a burden. Anyway she decides she fucks over her body.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:20 AM
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See the thing is here that having or aborting a child is a big decision. We can both agree that when protection is used both parties did not want to have a child yet maybe the woman still thinks about keeping it bc she might not be able to have children again. Considering men face none of the bodily consequences they need to be more aware of protection. You seem to think being able to choose if you want the child or not is a priviledge bit it is a burden. No matter how the woman chooses after sh…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:16 AM
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I did explain biological differences set up different risks when having sex. You don't want to take those into account. Agree to disagree and again please tell a potential sexual partner about your opinion so she is prepared.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 10:58 AM
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False rape accusations are bad and should be punished accordingly. They hurt both the acvused and the real victims. It seems like the metoo movement made men realise there is a lot more assault than they thought. And sadly some are not willing to believe that almost any woman can tell a creepy story about a guy following her or making vulgar comments. Obviously it is not rape however those things are terrifying and have been seen as normal for the longest time hence the confusion and disbelief s…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 10:55 AM
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The male gaze is not about men checking out women but about how women are portayed in movies. It's about how they behave and dress is seemingly their own decision yet it is made to appeal the male audience. Just think of high heels for female characters in action movies. This serves no purpose other than to make the woman look better. No one who's off to fight would put on heels. Then there is the bechtel test which underlined that in many movies female charachters are not their own figures but …
/r/MensRights24/01/22 04:43 PM
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And if you willingly give your sperm then suddenly you should not have responsibility? Yeah like I said it's the woman that has the bodily consequences, not the man but that doesnt seem to be valid to you bc it's not your body even tho you agree sperm is part of your body. yes, both parties need to use contraceptives I said that... we will never agree on this bc you do not take biology into account at all. If you want to treat men as children be my guest but I expect more from an adult.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 04:07 PM
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this is just wow. I can't explain it any easier and it's good there are these laws bc guys like you would completely bs on women. Pls tell that to any woman who considers dating you. You honestly want no responsibility for men at all. If your sperm is not your body then you can't argue against sperm theft since you obviously don't see it as yours. Women can't get pregnant on their own it needs a mans sperm. Yes ofc if men got pregnant I would apply the same rules as with women.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 02:53 PM
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No I say men should use protection like women do. You say a man should have no responsibility when having sex bc he does not get pregnant?! Only the woman needs to use protection bc she gets pregnant? That would mean men could go and have sex without ever thinking aboit the consequences. You literally want to release men from any responsibility. That is very irresponsible. If a woman uses protection the risk is still there to get pregnant. Why would it be different for men? There are many contra…
/r/MensRights24/01/22 09:47 AM
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I explained why apart from rape and sperm theft there is no reason for a man to not pay child support since contraceptives are available for both parties and it is the reponsibility of both.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 10:32 PM
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from my initial comment
/r/MensRights23/01/22 10:22 PM
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my other points still stand
/r/MensRights23/01/22 10:21 PM
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could work or she aborts it. I doubt she'd be pro life if she rapes a man.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 10:16 PM
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that was more meant for sperm theft btw basically like this they spend more money one for taking care of in prison and pay people to look after the child. I quickly googled and the average sentense for rape in the US is 9.8 years and actual time served is 5.4.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 09:43 PM
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I agree that women who steal a men's sperm or rape a man should not have a right to child support. Even if it is with the interest of the child in mind it should be the state who fills the basic support. Considering they can maintain so many prisons why not other criminals? However, I don't see the others as quite as valid. The pill for men should be remarketed into society since it has the same side effects as it has on women. And even with the pill I suggest a condom on top of that to prevent …
/r/MensRights23/01/22 03:33 PM
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The whole concept is old fashioned and misinformed. Women work too now I would expect a man to see an unemployed woman as a deal-breaker. Both men and women gather emotional baggage. Saying you cannot trust women bc in the younger days they did not want to commit (like many others regardless of gender) literally is emotional baggage. And women do not lose value by having sex, that claim is simply sexist. The vagina is also not "used up" by having sex. Any gynecologist can confirm that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:19 PM
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Be confindent about yourself and what you do not as if you are so great and thus the woman should feel honered to be in your presence. Also, confidence is nice about things you have experience on not just stuff you think is true. If you have no actual knowlegde about a subject and insist on being right that is just condescending. Being able to look at a subject from a different perspective and allow another opinion is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:25 AM
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I don't think you can blame anyone neither men nor women for not knowing their new partners personality. Getting to know someone takes time and sometimes you realise only after entering a relationship that the other person has deal breaker flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 05:39 PM
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While looks always plays a role she probably does not have all that great of a personality. Apart from that no inteligent woman wishes to 50/60s back. Where does it say she is a single mom though?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/21 09:45 AM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert
/r/MGTOW228/09/20 05:42 PM
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Good, I doubt it's hard for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:21 PM
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lol dude sure. I don't even want to talk about it anymore if you want to be a victim, be a victim. And I am sure you as a man know everything about how women enjoy sex. I really hope no poor woman falls into your venus fly trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 10:16 AM
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Sorry but in what world do you live where partners do NOT make such big financial choices together? Both their lives will be influenced why should a woman have no say in where she wants to live? And his money? If we talk typical housewife with childcare is she supposed to do all this for free? that is a fucked up mindset. Is the wife just a slave who has to count on the generosity of her husband? Yeah digging into the methodology gives light into the why and how. And none of the questions I aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 08:47 PM
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The actual study gives an error message. No info on what is bought, how much money is spent and for who they buy. In a partnershio, who buys the groceries? The cleaning stuff? Baby stuff? Clothes for children etc. In short who buys things for both or even more peoole to use? Women do buy more make up obviously. But in the near future thus might change considering how many men start to do make up. Same with fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:40 PM
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Which evidence? You are vague, argue with actual studies or else you have nothing but words pulled out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:10 PM
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You compare a grown woman who does not want sex to a toddler? Right, women need to bend over or else they are not rational and too emotional, bs. If you make decisions based upon the possibility of sex you are a dumbass. You are not a victim for not getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:48 PM
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Just bc you would hint with sexuality it doesn't mean others would. Stop pulling numbers out of your ass. If you argue do it with sources, your own experience is always biased and thus no grounds for an argument. How do we know? Were you there? And was that even claimed? Is sexual harrassemt not an issue for you? Is it just to be criminally charged if someone gets raped? Okay dude you think women do not enjoy sex that's bs. And rn you play the victim card. If you react so much to sex that you co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:45 PM
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Women are narually less honry than men, mainly during ovulation. I don't talk about a woman who doesn't like sex and never wants to have it. I talk normal sex driven women who sometimes just aren't up for sex. As a woman it's not your resonsibility to drop everything and be horny as soon as the guy wants to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 11:05 AM
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No, I did not said women can do with their money what they want. If you say women consume more than men then I highly disagree and I'd like to see the study where you got that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 10:50 AM
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Love is a vague term and whatever your definition is makes it unreal to you. But not to me and many others. I would never start a relationship with someone who doesn't love me. Attraction is based on sex and that alone is not enough. Love means trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:40 PM
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To you. Do not take yourself as the center of the world. You are not the human prototype. And if ypu ever go on a date you might want to mention your believes of love so she doesn't waste her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 12:04 PM
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First, not all women desire money from a man. And second, to compare desires does not make them same. You imply they dated you for other reasons than love, that is a huge hit in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:42 AM
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Yes, I am sure their perspective is different. And it sounds like the relationships gave you nothing at all which is hard to believe. The way you insult them makes me wonder what you are leaving out and maybe you were more needy or whatever than you say. You act like you were the pefect partner which they abused. Again, you compare apples to pears. The man does not have to give up all the money. He has to include his wife in big financial decisions. That too means he cannot just spend a lot mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 11:01 AM
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No, where exatcly did you read that? If you take the media radical "feminists" as the norm it is your own fault. Read a book on deminism by a valid author meaning one who actually has an academic background and has reliable sources and arguments. I totally agree, anyone can deny sex no one is entitled to sex. I think the difference is that women connect sex more often to love while men connect it more often to a physical need. So I assume when a woman is denied sex she thinks she isn't attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:42 AM
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Your experience is not representative for all women. And we got perspective not hers. You portray yourself as victim when no one is entitled to sex, neither men nor women. If you feel controlled then only bc sex is so terribly important that is a you-problem. You can leave a relationship anytime if there is not enough sex for you. Now control with sex and with sexual behavior are two different things. If a woman tries to get something by hinting sex this low and in some cases a criminal offence.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:24 AM
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Women are generally not as horny as men bc they are mostly ready for sex at the time of ovulation. So "mood" doesn't happen as often anyway. Um no, it is obvious you don't want to get intimate with someone you just had a fight with. It is normal and men do it too. Saying women use sex as a weapon and to manipulate is portayi g yourself as a victim which you aren't. If you don't argue properly in a fight JUST to please her and get sex anyway you are in the relationship just to fuck. And I highly …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:09 AM
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Did I say it is the only factor? Don't put words in my mouth. It is one factor which explains a decrease in marriage, an obvious one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:54 AM
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Your experience is not representative for all women bc of all biases we have, especially the confirmation bias. And moreover your perspective is not enough, I'd love to know what your past relationships and friends would have to say about this. You say I brought in "nice guys and neckbeards" who don't have another choice as to be nice. Being nice/polite is being a decent human being. Sex and money are two completely different things. See but you talk about men and their money. If a housewife die…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:52 AM
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You say a woman should keep her man happy in bed. The man has the same responsibility. And I think it is wrong to force yourself to sex if you don't want it. So if she has to force herself to sex to keep her man happy she sacrifices her own happiness and that is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:10 AM
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I don' t know why you splitting hairs rn we mean the same we agree so I stop right here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:07 AM
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Thank you. I did not really doubt the research to begin with (I googled it but I think if you argue with a study you have to provide it). But this guy claimed women have sex for food which is not in this study. He also generalizes all the time and you got to be prepared to discuss if you provoke like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 06:36 PM
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Lol sure buddy you. Sounds like no woman ever fucked you without getting something, deserved when I see your rotten attitude. And what is the other option? Being a jerk? You want to date a jerk woman? So? In what way are men not allowed to use their money then and it's considered "abuse"? Lol EVERYONE is entitled to deny sex, it's not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:07 PM
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Okay, and does the article state if the women then actually engage in sex with the guys? And does it question the guys motives too or just the womens? Edit: also it's kind of a useless study if I cannot read it. I don't see how many women were surveyed, I don't see where... But as such it already should be a slap in the face of the little generalizer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:36 PM
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Humans are nature. Trying to exist IS nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:35 PM
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Are you a woman? Or from where do you have the insight on why women have sex? You come off as ridiculously arrogant by speaking for all women on here. It's not my belief that men do nice things only for the goal to get sex. But if you say woman only have sex to manipulate then the latter is about just as a dumb phrase to put next to it. There are tons of men who did help or were nice to women without the goal of sex, don't take youself as the measurement for every man. Men can easily use money t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:34 PM
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Cool source it. Did they just check the girls motivation, if yes why not the guys too? You said women use their pussy power to control men (very eloquent btw). If you don't want to be misunderstood, you need to express yourself correctly. Triggered? I am entertained. But I guess a discussion means I am triggered to yoz and is supposed to make me feel dumb for even questioning you. Nah brah. "but every single woman expects it" lol again? 100% of women are the same, there is no difference. Is gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:21 PM
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And what are humans doing most if the time? Anything economy related
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:46 PM
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And where in my comment do you think I suggested that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:45 PM
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So you say women don't orgasm? And by that logic I can conclude that ofc guys don't do anything nice just for being nice, they always want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:44 PM
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You take a random number, 30%, and use that to generalize the whole sex? Lol do you not see the paradox in saying 100% of women are manipulativ and then changing that to 30%. Where do you even get that number from? And it's not like a guy has to pay, if she doesn't want free food she won't care. Now let's look at it from the other side, if you think you get sex for paying food YOU are the one trying to use her. You just don't want to pay a prostitude so you try to manipulate a woman into having …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:41 PM
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Shitting on a whole sex and portaying them as evil manipulaters. That's not fucked up at all no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:02 PM
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(2) don't make him believe you respect him, respect him. And with (2) and (3) look for someone who does the same thing for you. If keeping a man happy in bed means you aren't happy then he does not respect you. And if keeping you happy in bed means you do NOT want to have sex it is all the right you have. If he leaves you bc of that, he only used you for sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:48 PM
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Lol what a dumb thing to say. You act like women use sex to control men and don't enjoy it. That is fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:42 PM
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It's always nature vs economy. Less marriages= less people = nature wins. And there are only less marriages bc women's sole goal of finding husband and childbirthing drastically changed. Women can now work and choose their careers and they decide what to do with their money and that is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:38 PM
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Women don't need to orgasm to enjoy sex. If a man thinks lower of you bc you have sex, don't have sex with him. Slut shaming fucked up. Women don't lose worth by having sex. This is an obsolete thinking habit from a long ass time ago. Today many people have sex for pleasure and use contraceptives, ergo they don't want children. Ps. If you think women should have lower worth bc if sex, you surly support all women who only go for rich good looking men, cause it stems from the same evolutionary psy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:35 PM
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Yes. Bc not so long ago women's only socially acceptable goal was finding a husband and having children. Before that they were just married off no matter if she wanted or not. Now women's goals have drastically changed bc why would they take some man as husband and hope he will be generous with they money if they can just as easily make their own money? At least you know today a couple actually loves each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:29 PM
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