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Literally everyone is going to pick #2. This would be like asking a guy "would you rather have a woman who is naturally gorgeous, or a woman who is gorgeous because she's had $100K of plastic surgery done?".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 12:26 AM
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bitter projection You basically hit the nail on the head. Jealousy is an ultra powerful emotion, and often the easiest way to overcome it is by trying to tear down the person you're jealous of. "They're not really happy, she's probably cheated on him a bunch" "They're going to get divorced anyway" "He's a beta and she's only settling for him after years of riding the cock carousel' etc. etc. I'm also firmly of the belief that a lot of RPers watch WAY too much porn, and it begins to infect their …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:02 PM
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I've never done full NoFap, but I cut down significantly on both porn use and the frequency that I jerked off, and it was great. I think a big part of it was switching to only masturbating when I was really horny and was having trouble focusing because of that, as opposed to just jerking off because I was bored. And when I did masturbate, I stayed away from porn. Sex was the biggest improvement. I found that my erections were much stronger, and I was lasting longer.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/21 12:46 AM
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Why do you think women were having parties where they got together as a group to go watch "Magic Mike"? A lot of women I know described "300" as basically being "porn for women". Do you think women only like Chris Hemsworth for his face, and his body has nothing to do with it? I think where you might be confused is that women generally don't like the roided-out, Mr. Olympia looking guys, who look like they're about to explode at any moment. Lifting is the most given advice I've ever seen for men…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 10:46 PM
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Are there other reasons why the dynamic is pushed? It's largely pushed by the guys who think they're going to benefit from it. In other words, guys in their 20s who want to believe they're going to be having sex with 24 year olds when they're 48. There's a lot of delusional guys out there who think because they've done decent for themselves financially and lift weights that they're instantly going to be George Clooney when they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:56 PM
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As in guys who just show up by themselves, without a girl. Think about it logically: if someone posted "orgy for men and women, all are invited", there would probably be about 20x as many guys who would show up as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 01:24 PM
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A whole lot of it is that these guys watch way too much porn and begin to think it's real. Heck, even mainstream movies about College make it seem like every woman in college is a bikini model, and every guy is sleeping with 2-3 new girls a week. Sex parties and clubs do exist, but if you think it's going to look like "Brazzers house" you are probably going to be in for a huge disappointment. And also, they very rarely let in single guys. Really, the only place where I'd say uninhibited sex is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 09:06 PM
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That means women get their sexual desires met in relationships and men don't. Married women are less likely than married men to be say they are sexually satisfied in their relationship. https://www.today.com/health/ivillage-2013-married-sex-survey-results-1D80245229
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:32 PM
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People on this sub (and elsewhere, but especially on this sub) take the concept of "unconditional love" too far. It doesn't mean literal unconditional love, that literally no matter what a person does you are required to continue loving them. It means loving somebody and sticking by their side when they go through difficult times that may challenge your love and attraction for them. It means not running for the hills the moment your husband loses his job. It means not ditching your wife if she g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:15 PM
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If I man has/does great things he is a great man. Does great things might make a guy a great man, but has great things? There are plenty of guys out there who are lazy, entitled douchebags who have ultra-rich parents who "have" great things (expensive cars, money, live in deluxe apartments, etc.), but I wouldn't consider them to be 'great'. Hell, half of the most popular male Instagram 'influencers' are just guys who have ultra-rich parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:05 PM
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Which one? The "hot girl ditches her douchebag jock boyfriend because she falls for the sweet shy guy" trope, or how I feel that's less common nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:40 PM
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should we instead focus of the narrative we feed our male children going foward? FWIW, as an older person on here (late 30s) I feel like society and the media already does a better job of this than what I was heavily exposed to growing up. SOOO many movies and TV shows I saw growing up had the old "hot girl ditches her douchebag jock boyfriend because she falls for the sweet shy guy" trope, or had girls falling in love with guys who were so nervous to talk to the girls they could barely get a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:51 AM
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It depends on what you mean by "tired" and "curious", but it's important to understand the context of marriage in those days. Back then, unless you were very wealthy, it was basically impossible to live single as a bachelor/bachelorette in the way we think of it now. Without modern appliances and technology, much of the stuff that we do now that can be done quickly (like laundry, cooking, washing dishes, cleaning, etc.) were borderline a full-time job. This is why many women then lived at home u…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:40 AM
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why don't I ever hear men complain about the lack of male specific birth control options? I hear them talk about it fairly frequently, but most men know that the reality is that effective birth control for men is really, really hard to do on a purely scientific basis. It's trying to stop one egg, one time a month vs having to stop literally billions of sperm. A lot of this depends on the guy in question. Every guy I know who was college educated, had career aspirations, etc. was VERY careful abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:18 PM
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I personally don't think it is (though other people might disagree). My point is that by saying: ...a desirable woman is always going to be with guys who want to get it in, so the thought that there might be some porn issue with guys doesn't even cross their mind. You're basically saying "if a guy has issues with porn, it's because his SO isn't desirable enough". It's the same way people say "oh well if a guy's SO is hot enough, he won't cheat". Except that does happen. Imagine not being able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:11 PM
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This is sort of like saying 'if a woman is hot then the guy will never cheat on her'. Except, of course, it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:00 PM
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I can't speak for all older men (obviously), but probably yes. Most 45 year old guys are aware that while they might find that 22 year old woman incredibly hot, they likely have next to nothing in common with her.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/21 10:53 AM
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What if she actually didn't like anal but did it out of agreaableness ? That's why I said "happily did anal all the time with her ex". And you're right, it could be something as simple as her being more firm on her boundaries as she ages, but I still imagine it would make most men question how it was this ex was so much more convincing than he is. And don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that this fear is 100% entirely logical. I think most common relationship fears have irrational parts to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:49 AM
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Well obviously you became an Escort just so you could tell men "no" and have POWER over them. Y'know, just like how Strippers become Strippers so they can walk on stage, say "nah", and turn around and go back to the dressing room. /S
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:32 PM
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I can't imagine a woman being fine with her boyfriend saying "You have great tits" or something. Serious question: have you ever been in a relationship? If you're in a monogamous relationship with someone and they get offended at you complimenting their body, you need to get the hell out of that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:15 PM
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I really don't know how much interest older men have in younger women. Depends what you mean by 'interest'. Interest in dating them? Not necessarily a ton. Being sexually attracted to them? Quite a lot. In terms of physical looks, men basically prefer women in their early 20s no matter what age they are, while women tend to prefer men around their own age https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/ The catch, of course, is that this is only ta…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/21 09:44 PM
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Well you actually have to find a way to display said confidence. You can sit in your apartment and be the most confident SOB whose ever lived. Won't do you much good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:29 PM
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Other countries like Japan and Sweden are far, far superior to the US in terms of the moral quality of men you will meet. Japan seems a strange example to use here, considering that sexlessness in Japan (among both men and women) is considered nearly a national crisis. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2019/04/07/a-quarter-of-japanese-adults-under-40-are-virgins-and-the-number-is-increasing/?sh=5baf2fa57e4d https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/asia/japanese-millennials-virgins/index.html
/r/ExRedPill02/09/21 08:26 PM
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LOL I know, I just love hearing some of the outlandish explanations people have for things on this sub that are clearly BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:17 PM
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Well of course they can, but do you have any data showing that "most sex workers turn down men who are short?".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:56 PM
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I mean turning someone down if their 5’4 instead 6’0 like what most sex workers do. I know basically nothing about sex work, but what escort or prostitute is going to say "I refuse to have sex with you, even if you give me money, because you're not tall enough"? That seems like an escort who doesn't really understand what the point of their job is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:13 PM
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There’s no promise of sex, only naked pics. You know exactly what you’re getting....They know exactly what they are getting in this arrangement. Its not covert by any means. If you stop paying they know butthole pics stop. While I pretty much entirely agree with you that OF is not 'predatory', it should probably be noted that there are definitely delusional men out there who don't really understand this. They genuinely think that if they just send their OF crush enough money or buy her enough gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:18 AM
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If anything I feel like it's sort of opposite. "Loving yourself" (to me) basically just means being confident in yourself, and I've known not particularly attractive guys who had lots of success dating largely, because they were hyper confident in themselves. With women, OTOH, while being confident in yourself is great, confidence cannot magically make a physically unattractive woman attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:08 AM
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OP is being somewhat over the top, but some of the sex stuff taps into a very fundamental fear that a lot of guys have, especially as they get into a serious relationship. Basically, it's the fear that while your Partner may love you, think you're a great provider, husband, boyfriend, father, whatever, she lacks raw sexual attraction for you. So if you're in a relationship and your GF, wife whomever, tells you "oh I don't do anal", and then you find out she happily did anal all the time with her…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:33 AM
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One thing that never gets talked about (for the obvious reason that we'll likely never know) that I think could definitely be a contributing factor, is what these couple's sex lives were like. Sure, Heidi Klum is gorgeous and most men would cut off a finger to sleep with her, but for all we know she could have been withholding sex from her husband for months at a time. She could be an incredibly boring lay who doesn't want to do anything but missionary and refuses to give blowjobs. Maybe it wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:27 PM
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In my experience, the "Quiet Librarian" stereotype is 100% true. All of the women I've been with who were by far the biggest freaks in bed and had the highest sex drives were ones that were relatively quiet and shy in their day to day lives. Granted, that doesn't automatically mean she's actually slept with more guys than the party girl, but it does show you that just because a girl wears short skirts and hits the clubs every weekend doesn't mean she's some kind of sex fiend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:05 PM
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That was my thought. If the guy said "sure whatever", it could either be evidence that he's so confident in his relationship and how attractive he is (or how unattractive this guy is) that he has no fear that she would do anything with the other guy, or evidence that he's a complete doormat and too afraid to stand up for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:58 PM
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If you told Jeff Bezos "tomorrow your net worth will be $5 million" he would be extremely unhappy. If you told the vast majority of Americans the same thing, they would be elated. My point? Happiness is very relative and subjective. Mental illness isn't necessarily a good indicator because we've (arguably) gotten much better at detecting and diagnosing mental illnesses than we were decades ago, so the rates are higher. And this is going to sound messed up, but increases in the amount of mental i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:26 PM
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A lot of it is probably the proliferation of Instagram and other social media. Guys with like, perfect hair and faces. This is heavily a cultural change. Even 15 or so years ago, a guy who spent tons of time on his hair, skincare, choosing snazzy outfits, etc. was seen as sort of gay (it's pretty much where the idea of 'metrosexual' came from). Even the gym aspect was sort of that way: you were supposed to work out to become bigger and stronger, not because you wanted to look like a male model.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:28 PM
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Men like pretty women; women like good looking guys. Seems fair. I'd argue that in this case it's not that simple. For example, if you have one guy who spends 8 more hours a week than another guy in the gym, but the other guy spends that time working overtime and has more money and is on a better career path, which one is more attractive? A guy who spends a huge amount of time in the gym, focused on his diet, and on his hair and skincare routine, but lives in a 1br apartment, is arguably less at…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:26 PM
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Yes, it is. https://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Nonmarital-births-figure-1.png And it's WAY higher than it was 50-60 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:53 AM
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Honestly, this relationship seems pretty doomed even beyond the dick size/bedroom prowess thing. -You're not necessarily going to marry the person who is best in bed (hell, from what I've heard most guys say that their best sex partner was fucking nuts and they would never marry them), and it's not the end of the world. However, it is disrespectful as hell to tell your friends intimate sexual details (especially physical details) about both your fiance' and your past lovers, and next-level disre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:43 AM
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Nope, you'll generally have to either have sex with them or talk for a lot longer to find out about the other two.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:31 PM
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Generally speaking, it comes down to: -Enthusiasm -Open-mindedness -Physically attractive. Usually if you want it to go from good to great she'll also need to share any particular kinks you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:27 PM
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Chart is behind a paywall, but even then what you've posted still supports basically all the points I was making. -These stats includes robbery under 'violent crime' (not sure why), so the numbers are a bit suspect. It's also worth noting that men are much less likely to report DV, so that probably skews things a bit further. -As I mentioned, rape and sexual assault is rarely committed by strangers, it's almost always committed by people victim knows personally. From your link: "The same goes fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:10 PM
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result is men, year over year, only experience 1% more violent crime than women. Any actual stats to back up what you keep repeating over and over?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 04:07 AM
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I'd argue it does. Any guy will openly admit to you that there are women out there whom they'd happily sleep with, but would never be in a relationship with, let alone want to have a kid with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:50 AM
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Less than 1% difference in victimization rates isn't "significantly" more likely. "According to the data given by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, worldwide, 78.7% of homicide victims are male, and in 193 of the 202 listed countries or regions, males were more likely to be killed than females." 78.7% men, 21.3% women. No idea where you got "less than 1% difference" but at least as far murder rates are concerned you're way off. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime A…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:48 AM
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But when it comes to sex it changes. i.e. She's told me multiple times, If I can't get off I don't see the point in doing anything for you. Mind you any time we actually do have sex she always cums first. A lot of times she cums twice. I've asked about why she doesn't seem to want to have sex more often. She blows it off and says it's because we've got things to do or she's busy. Or we're in a rut, it's just how things are. Do I really don't know why we don't have sex more other than she doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:12 PM
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They enjoy it much more because they receive it far less. Even a moderately attractive woman basically walks through life in a situation where a sizable majority of the men she meets (or hell, who even just see her) would have sex with her, given the opportunity. Only a fraction of a fraction of a percent of men can say the same thing for the women he meets or see him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:05 PM
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Just because people feel a certain way doesn't make it logical. While women are sexually assaulted more than men, almost all of it happens with men they know personally. A stranger yanking a woman into an alley and raping her at knifepoint is incredibly rare. On the flip side, for all the talk about how much more women need to worry about safety, men are significantly more likely to be victims of violent crime (hell, ALL crime except rape/sexual assault) than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:04 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't ask, and just doesn't really want to know? I don't think I've ever asked a girl I was dating how many men she had slept with prior to me, and I don't think any woman I've ever dated has asked me how many women I had slept with prior to dating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:46 PM
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Most media is written for women because they're the prime consumer. What are you talking about? For the longest time, the 18-34 year old male demographic was considered the 'coveted' demographic for movies and TV (this was in the days before streaming). It isn't until pretty recently that this has begun to change. Even now, something like 80% of writers are men. If most media was made for women, don't you think companies would be hiring way more women? The movies only ever focus on a fictional m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:36 PM
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Yeah but the whole point of the movie (well, part of the movie) was that he didn't want to be a Lawyer at all, he was only doing it because it's basically what everyone expected him to do. And yes I get it that it's a dumb Hollywood trope of "follow your dream, forget about money!".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:48 PM
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A real man takes care of kids that aren't his. A real man pays for everything and doesn't ask for anything in return. A real man sacrifices his happiness, time, and money for women. A real man tolerates abuse, shitty behavior, and unfairness from women. Do you have any specific examples of seeing this in fiction? I feel like I can easily provide lots of examples of the "nice guy eventually gets the girl and jock douchebag guy doesn't" in movies/TV, but I can't think of many movies with the trope…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:20 AM
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Don't forget that his blonde wife was a raging bitch who cheated on him, while the broke college girl was, well, Zoey Deutch. So he basically left one smoke-show for another. It's not like he dumped his super hot wife for a extremely ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:12 AM
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Sure, if you want to get REALLY technical, then you're right, not everyone has the same tastes. But enough people do on a lot of the big things that we look at that you can generally apply them when we're talking about dating generalities. Like, yes there are guys out there who are attracted to fat women, but it's not a jump to say they are a small minority. So when someone says "men prefer thin women", ok yes you can split hairs and say "well actually some men like fat women!", but they're such…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:44 PM
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Settling for someone who makes 100K vs the ex making 200k but had a busy lifestyle is acceptable to men. Settling sexually is not. I'm intrigued by this. So if you were dating a woman and you found out that she thought her ex was better in bed than you, even if only a tiny bit, would you just dump her on the spot? Would you re-double your bedroom efforts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:02 PM
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You think those fake moans and screams are in any way indicative that any man at all ACTUALLY cares about female pleasure? Of course they are, because otherwise why even bother doing them? If all the (guy) viewer cared about was seeing an attractive woman get fucked, the girl wouldn't even bother making any noise in the scene. Is she actually feeling a ton of pleasure? Probably not, but that's why it's called acting. What men who watch porn want is for a woman to pretend that his pleasure feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:36 PM
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Ok, walk around with Victoria Justice and Melissa McCarthy (and Chris Hemsworth/Gilbert Gottfried) and ask people the same question. Sure, some people will likely change their minds (one way or the other) if they get to have an extensive conversation with them, but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of men will pick Justice and the vast majority of women will pick Hemsworth if you're basing it on looks alone, because they have physical traits that are almost universally consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:58 PM
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This article is much more about men who are already in relationships wanting to feel desired, not initial flirting and dating. And stuff like this is 'new' because for a long time it was sort of seen as: -"Men are always horny and women are not, therefore the men should be the ones to initiate sex" -"All men care about is having a warm hole to stick their dick in to get off, they don't really care if the woman desires them" Anyone who has watched basically any porn could easily tell you how BS t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:33 PM
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Everyone settles means everyone doesn’t get to be with a 10. We all compromise in relationships because nobody’s perfect and we’re all flawed. Thank you! A lot of guys on this sub don't seem to understand that just because a woman doesn't say 'you're literally the greatest at everything imaginable and better than my exes in every conceivable way, and possibly some theoretical ones", doesn't mean she's 'settled' for you. No human being is perfect, and if you spend your entire life chasing after a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:23 PM
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As someone who used OLD a lot, I'll openly admit I used it largely because I hated cold approaching women in public, or even at bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:51 PM
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I don't not believe women are capable of love So...they are capable of love?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 02:07 PM
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I always use this as an example: Walk around with a picture of Victoria Justice and a picture of Melissa McCarthy, and ask 1,000 (straight) guys whom they would sleep with if they had to pick one of them. Will some of those guys pick McCarthy? Sure, but I don't think it's a leap of logic to say that Justice is going to get the vast majority of votes here. And you could probably do this same test over and over and over again with different groups of guys and get very similar results. With women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:28 AM
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LOL, that's just what they're told because the majority of people don't have to guts to just tell them "you're ugly". It's like telling a woman who is fat that she just needs to dress differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:04 AM
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Empathize with them on what specifically? On dating? And what kind of women are we talking about here? Attractive women can empathize, but they also figured out a long time ago that they need to be careful in how they deal with guys (especially not attractive guys) in this arena, because gestures of friendliness, attention, or affection very often get interpreted as romantic or sexual interest. Hell, even when guys are dealing with women who are literally paid to pretend that they like them, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:09 PM
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Yes, it means he'd rather have sex than masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:31 PM
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I was like… that doesn’t make any sense. They wouldn’t stay hard. If you're horny (especially when you're young), you can stay hard. Nearly any guy can rub one out right now staring at a blank wall, all he has to do is think of some particularly hot woman or dig up a memory from the spank bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:26 PM
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I can think of 2 particular instances that stand out in my mind. -When I was in CA, I don't know if it was a cultural thing or what, but basically all the Hispanic girls on OLD had like 6'2 as the MINIMUM height they required, which was hilarious because they were all like 5'1. -Years ago I remember talking to this girl who openly admitted she absolutely never worked out (and it showed). Her definition of a guy who was 'in good shape' was that he HAD to have six-pack abs. Like that was literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:23 PM
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And follow fat women on of? And search for bbw porn to watch it? And ask me out? And ask to see me naked instead of keeping my clothes on during sex? Because some men are attracted to fat women, I never said no men were. But that's very different than claiming that most men are. Here's a science experiment for you: go to Pornhub and search for the most popular female pornstars. How many of them have big bellies? I'll save you a trip: you basically have to get into the 300-400s before you start f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:43 PM
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Just because something is relatively 'normal' doesn't mean it's a good thing. It's normal for people to get shot in Chicago every weekend, that doesn't make it a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:33 PM
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No I’m saying men don’t obsess about ugly women the way they obsess about fat women. Probably because they feel worse for ugly women because ugly women can't really do much about their situation (short of an extreme like surgery), while fat women can. I don’t get what the problem is bc if his forehead isn’t touching someone’s belly then what is he mad about? Because it's visually unappealing? I don't really know how to explain it any further. I am talking about fat women like lizzo. Are large am…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:44 PM
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I don't even understand the context of this video. Drunk assholes made an asshole comment to a fat woman? Assholes exist, and often become bigger assholes when drunk. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:37 PM
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They don't do this with women w ugly faces or women with shitty personalities (which are changeable). I'm confused: are you implying that being fat isn't a changeable characteristic? If anything, it's far more easily changeable than personality or face. "no man wants to have your belly resting on their forehead during oral sex". It went viral w men agreeing until men and women started pointing out thats... not a thing. The angles don't work. Bellys dont hang down over genitals when someone is la…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:15 AM
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A lot of it depends on other factors (are you married, do you have kids, etc.) but making $100K before taxes in SF is a struggle. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-one-major-us-city-where-making-100000-wont-even-cover-basic-bills-2019-05-17
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:37 AM
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Sure, but a guy who is $200k in debt, has a $50k a year job, and a bunch of maxed out credit cards is not high status or well off, even if he can give the illusion of being so by buying bottle service or renting an Aston Martin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:06 PM
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A lot of this depends where you are. If you're making six figures in San Francisco you're basically poor. If you're making six figures in Biloxi, Mississippi then you're killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:05 AM
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How do you think women can tell how much money a guy actually has/makes? Particularly if they are self-employed Well, here's the easy thing I'll tell you: if you're hanging around women whom the FIRST thing they think of when they meet any guy is "how wealthy is he?", go find other women. Despite what TRP might tell you, not all women are gold diggers. Sure, all things being equal a woman will pick a wealthy guy over a not-wealthy guy, but if the only thing she cares about is how much money he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:58 AM
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I feel like you've been watching too much "Fresh n Fit"... Here's what I'll say: young and/or dumb (and the two are often very closely related) women care about lifestyle over money/wealth. An intelligent woman will be able to figure out pretty quickly that even a rich guy is not going to be rich for very long if he spends all his money on cars and eating out and bottle service and all that other crap. She's going to figure out REALLY fast if he's making $50K a year and is only managing this bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:40 AM
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Considering these are college girls and are probably very young and relatively inexperienced in the dating scene, they likely just hit the end of the honeymoon period with their SO and they don't understand why they're no longer gaga for him like they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:43 PM
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If a woman stands in front of you and talks to you and thinks and feels like you're somebody she does not want to be penetrated by, its not her fault, its not chads fault, its not prostitution laws fault, its not feminisms fault or academias fault, its not your mothers fault, its not social medias fault or online datings fault. Its because she does not find you viscerally attractive, for whatever reason. On a purely literal basis, what you are saying is true, but that's sort of missing the point…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 04:33 PM
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I'm not sure why this is particularly shocking. People tend to marry those who have similar levels of education. There are more educated women now than there were 50 years ago. It's pretty rare for someone with a PhD to marry someone who just graduated high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 03:05 PM
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Very large numbers of people are qualified to do this relatively unskilled labour (sure, skilled labour here is preferable). And yet the prices paid for this unskilled labor are very much higher than other unskilled labour. Just because something is unskilled doesn't necessarily mean it's common. Sure, basically everyone can have sex, but only a small minority of the population are attractive enough that people will shell out fairly large sums of money to have sex with them. And an even tinier p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 01:40 PM
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This sort of reads like a man telling a woman "oh stop whining about how much pregnancy sucks, it's not that bad". In other words, unless you've experienced what it's like being a (healthy) guy, you don't understand how all-consuming men's sex drives are. Don't you think that if most guys (especially young guys) could 'turn off' their sex drives and not think about getting laid every 7 seconds, they would? Like yes, some of this is ridiculous (like worrying about whether you cross some sort of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 12:06 PM
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I kind of see what you're getting at here, but even in this case wouldn't the argument be that you can have a threesome that other men envy? I'm sure there are guys who've been able to have threesomes with women whom most guys would want nothing to do with sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:44 AM
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Part of this depends on how you're defining 'casual sex'. If they mean like being a big-name celebrity, and basically being able to go out and reliably get laid any time you want (with attractive women), then yeah, that's a completely unrealistic goal for probably 99.99% of men out there. But being able to pull-off a ONS every few months? I think even for average guys who aren't particularly picky that's completely do-able with a some work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 05:02 PM
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Should kids have kids now, or not, and why aren't they? You should have kids if you want to and can reasonably take care of them, and don't have them if you don't want to or can't take care of them. It's really pretty simple. My issue is that a lot of people on Reddit have these (IMO) really misguided ideas about having kids and the economics of it nowadays. Their belief is that almost nobody can afford kids except the ultra-rich, but if you look at statistics, the wealthier you are the less lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:26 PM
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This is sort of like saying "everyone is beautiful to someone!". Yes, it's technically true, but it's sort of meaningless for the purpose of understanding dating and relationship dynamics. Like let's say I had a picture of Victoria Justice and Melissa McCarthy, and I walked around and asked 1000 (straight) men whom they would rather sleep with if given the choice. Now I'm sure you could find some guys who would pick McCarthy, but I don't think it's crazy to say that Justice is going to capture t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:40 PM
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100 years ago a high school dropout could support a family on a single income. 100 years ago 1/3rd of the entire US population were farmers. Now about 1% of people are Farmers. Hell, many of them had lots of kids because they literally needed labor. Do you really believe your life is tougher than their's? everyone is chasing either blue collar jobs that will destroy their cartilage Do you not think working on farms or in factories in the 1920s was dangerous, tough, dirty work? Hell, this was bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 02:14 PM
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That personality trait isn't a red flag, but a woman who describes herself as a "strong and independent woman" is most definitely a red flag (not to mention very cringy). It would be like a guy self-describing himself as a 'very tough and masculine man". Generally speaking, if you have to tell people that you're _________ personality, then you aren't really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:36 PM
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Beyond even pointing out how much of an ass this guy is, I call bullshit on large portions of his story. For starters, his stories of the College experience reads like he watched too much porn or episodes of "Blue Mountain State". Yes, people are partying and having fun in college, but the idea that nearly every girl in College is fucking a different guy every night like it's some sort of endless swingers club is hilariously over-the-top. Yes I get that women might lie about the number of sex pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 09:36 PM
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This is sort of like saying 'neither men or women are attracted obesity, so why is obesity rising?'. The drop in testosterone is arguably almost entirely environmental, and also related to the increase in obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 07:04 PM
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Even not taking into account the psychological factors, part of it is simply a numbers game. The sweet guy who is shy and cares about others is sitting there waiting for the 'appropriate time' to go hit on a girl, whereas the DGAF guy has hit on 20 women during that same time period because he doesn't give a fuck if they do or don't want to be hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 04:27 PM
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Don't be a criminal. LOL, men with criminal records literally have (on average) more sex partners than men who don't. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19350760/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:46 AM
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Ugly man hot woman is a trope for a reason. It's a trope because men are much more visually stimulated than women and want attractive women in movies/tv, while women generally don't care as much. This is especially true in the 18-24 year old male demographic, which for a long time was basically the key demographic that TV was aiming for. This is why you had so many TV sitcoms with unattractive husbands but attractive wives: because nobody really cared much what the man looked like, but people di…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 03:40 AM
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That's the big thing: you don't have to actually be charged with sexual harassment to be fired. You can be fired for just about any reason whatsoever, so even if HR finds that you didn't actually do anything wrong, the business has every right to fire you if they think your presence is a disruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:26 PM
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Vegans also living longer isn't because "vegan", it's because most people with the willpower to follow strict diets are going to weigh less. You could place those same people on a different also healthy diet and the outcome would likey be the same. Another thing to note: almost 80% of Vegans are women, and women's average life expectancy is 5 years higher than men's, so that likely contributes heavily to the lopsidedness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 04:29 PM
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My cousin and his wife both had to shell out over $22,000 just to conceive on such diet-caused problems...And they're not even that fat, about 220lbs or less. Unless your cousin is built like a NFL linebacker or is 6'7 or above, 220 lbs is 100% fat. As for his wife, assuming she's average height, 220 lbs or so is straight up obese. Also, my guess is that veganism and vegetarianism were much less common in the 60s and 70s than they are now, but people are on average much fatter now than they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 04:20 PM
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What's that great quote? "If the guy from 50 Shades of Grey lived in a trailer, it would have been an episode of Criminal Minds". The point is that a large part of the whole "they're only considered creepy when unattractive" thing is just pointing out that attractive people can often get away with things that unattractive people can't, and this applies to men and women. Does that always mean an attractive person can't be creepy? No, but it means people tend to be far more forgiving of "unusual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 04:20 PM
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I saw a Tweet, "60% of male managers now say they're uncomfortable mentoring women." A woman fired back, "Jesus fucking Christ, you losers, it's not that hard. Keep your fucking hands to yourselves, keep your fucking dick in your pants, and keep your fucking mouths shut about how we look. Be professional." This woman is an idiot and doesn't really understand the issue. Or she does, but she's firmly in the "women never ever lie about anything and are always victims no matter what" camp. When I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:32 PM
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They were trying to keep you from harming yourself. Sorry to let the cat out of the bag but you weren’t the first person they heard that from. They know exactly how to react. Over time you should’ve seen what they were trying to do. What an utterly bizarre take. "These older authority figures, whom you are supposed to trust and learn from, were blatantly lying to you because the truth might possibly upset you. But it's your fault for not realizing the people you were supposed to trust and learn …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:46 PM
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I think that's a lot of it. But part of it simply the nature of most movies and TV. We generally want to root for the underdog in movies and see characters overcome conflict and adversity, and it's hard to see that if the protagonist is "Football QB who is beloved by everyone and is having sex with the hottest girl on Cheerleading squad".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:55 AM
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The numbers have changed, but the majority of men have still married by the time they're 50. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-share-of-never-married-americans-has-reached-a-new-high Also bear in mind this study only counts people age 25 to 50, so it doesn't include married people below age 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:46 AM
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Both of these people are utterly pathetic and awful. The woman is the absolute worst of the intersectional feminism/"I'm punching down so it's ok" social justice idiot crowd. She's just trying to justify her terrible behavior by using some absurd progressive logic. But the husband? From the article: "Her husband knows about it, and he wants her to stop because he’s heartbroken, but he’s too scared to leave because he’s scared he won’t get over her and so this is the best situation he’ll get in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:22 PM
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And come on, do you really think all women want a guy who doesn't give a shit about them? Have you just been ignoring the parts where I said I don't really believe in TRP? when they can't even grasp simple concepts like "different women like different things" Well of course that's true, but by that logic 'dating advice' as a whole can't really exist (for men or women), because if you can find even a single exception to what the person is saying then you can just counter with "different men/women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:33 PM
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I agree, though it's definitely not exclusive to men. Plenty of women are raised on a steady diet of "Prince Charming will ride in and sweep me off my feet", or they believe that their looks don't really matter and they'll meet a guy who loves them 'for who they are on the inside". It's worth noting that it isn't just media, a lot of guys are told similar things by their mothers, sisters, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:08 PM
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The problem here is that you need to define what you mean by "boring and dull", because even that is up for interpretation. Let's say you have 2 guys, one works as an Accountant for a big Accounting firm. He makes a steady paycheck but he'll never be a multi-millionaire, and he'll always have a reliable stream of income and reliable job. Maybe being an Accountant wasn't his dream job, but why ruin a good and reliable thing and take a huge risk to have it all come crashing down? The other guy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 05:04 PM
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They miss the point that the such a plot could work in real life if the girl found both guys attractive. Then of course the tie goes to the guy who isn't outright abusive. But see, this is the controversial part of TRP: in their mind, the guy being abusive (and 'abusive' here is too strong of a word, let's just say guy being an asshole, arrogant, a douche, etc) IS what makes him attractive. In other words, their take is largely that if a woman is given a choice between 2 guys who are equally phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 03:34 PM
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Where is the controversy? I'd say it's two-fold, and it all emerged basically from pick-up artistry stuff. -The first was that the way women feel attraction for men is very different than men might think. The old belief was if you weren't a super handsome guy then it wasn't possible for you to ever really be considered 'attractive'. TRP and PUA stuff basically said that you could overcome not necessarily being super physically attractive by behaving and acting in certain ways. And those certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:54 PM
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(Note: focusing on the US here) things taken for granted by boomers, such as a family, a spouse of ten plus years, a normal life of one or two kids with a wife? Some of this is sort of vague, but over 80% of men will have married at least once by the time they're 40. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db19.htm As for kids, most men will have kids https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2019/mens-fertility.html So no, those things are not extinct. They may not be as prolific as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:34 PM
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I feel like when people talk about "dating apps" on this sub and how bad they are for men, what they are really referring to is Tinder and other apps that are designed primarily for hookups. If anything, I'd argue that OLD sites that are designed for relationships (like Match) are a boon for guys who are not ultra-attractive, because it lets them approach women (so to speak) in a non-bar setting or not have to do cold approaches out in public. I met my wife through Hinge and did Match for years …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 11:43 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 11:35 AM
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A big part of the satisfaction of sex isn't the physical satisfaction, it's because it's seen as a validation of your worth and attractiveness. And this is REALLY true for men. Here's an experiment: ask 100 (single) guys at a bar on Saturday night "If you had the choice between going home with an average looking woman and having mediocre sex where you don't cum, or going home and jerking off, which would you choose?". I can almost guarantee you 95%+ of guys would choose the woman. Some people do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:11 PM
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The problem with this is that it takes into account ALL of the US, but most people don't date throughout the entire country, they date in their surrounding area. So even if, statistically, 70% of US men are overweight, if you live in Colorado (which is consistently one of the least obese/overweight states) that 70% number doesn't really matter much to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:28 PM
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It's not THAT high. About 70% or so are overweight, about 45% are obese. It's also not just a US problem. Mexico has a higher obesity rate than the US, and the UK isn't far behind the US at this point. The numbers are still atrocious, but not 70% obese bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 04:51 PM
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In contrast, attractive participants had more insights into how attractive they actually are. If anything, they underestimated their attractiveness. There's 2 things at play here, I think. -Culturally speaking (especially in the US), we tend to dislike people who are braggarts and like people who are humble. I'm sure most people who are hyper-attractive are aware of it, but they've been raised to downplay it and not say out loud "oh yeah, I know I'm super hot". -As someone else pointed out, this…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:55 PM
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most women you're at far more risk I never said it doesn't happen, I said it's far more common for a women to be killed or assaulted by a man she's already in an intimate relationship with than one she isn't, and all stats bear this out. By this logic, you should never ever be in a car, since I could easily post hundreds of articles about people dying in car wrecks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:33 AM
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“no, and I find you unattractive” Well sure, in a case where you give the person absolutely no context whatsoever it doesn't really do any good, but things like: -"No, you don't really do it for me physically, I'm looking for a guy in better shape" -"No, you're a (insert political party) and I could never date someone who isn't in (insert other political party)" -"No, you made a joke about ___________ and I found it offensive" -"No, you wore a Pantera t-shirt to a fancy restaurant" You get the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:29 AM
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As I pointed out on another thread, it's also really insane because most women who are killed or assaulted by men it's by a guy they're already in a relationship with. In other words, you're at far more risk from the guy you've said 'yes' to than the one you've said 'no' to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:18 PM
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LOL, you're forgetting the other obvious part of why this basically never works. Woman friend: "All you need to do is be kind and respectful and dress well, then women will want to date you!". Guy: "Interesting. I do all of those, so do you want to go out with me?" WF: "Not in a million years" It's like their mother told them once that they should just be themselves and that there's someone for everyone, and that single interaction You also can't totally dismiss this one. For most men, outside o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:23 PM
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Then why are they listening to other TRPers while ignoring all the experienced and sane men of Reddit? What do you mean by "experienced and sane"? If by 'experienced' you mean 'guy who has lots of dating success with women', then I'm pretty sure that's precisely what TRP tells you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:59 PM
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Would guys even want a woman to say “sorry, you’re not attractive enough for me” instead of a plain “no, thank you” and not give a reason? Back when I was dating, I would have 100% preferred that over ghosting or giving some hyper vague reason. It would let me know what I could improve upon, or at the very least let me know with 100% certainty that I wasn't interested in this person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:15 PM
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I agree somewhat with your overall premise, but I think you're oversimplifying this part: "Why am I getting rejected? Is there something wrong with me?", because you're basically skipping over what the man chooses to do after that point. Yes, there are things that he cannot control, but there are things he can. If he's getting rejected continuously and he's overweight, well he can improve that. Wears ratty clothes? Can improve that. All his pictures are terrible? He can improve that. That all be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:44 PM
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I'm about 5'9 and I dated a 6'1 woman for a while, never bugged either of us. I know that's not an extreme difference in height, but taller women are not totally off-limits. But anyway, based upon my anecdotal experience, the issue here is like 95% women's preferences, 5% men's preferences. I've known very few men who have said they would never date a woman taller than them, but back when I used to use Match.com (where you could put your height preferences on there), it was VERY rare to see a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:40 PM
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I find this logic so weird. Most women who are murdered by men are murdered by men they're in relationships with. In other words, you're at far more risk from the guys you're sleeping with than the guys you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:23 PM
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If that's true, your guy friends were getting laid more than probably about 95% of the male populace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:34 PM
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I'm betting that a lot of women wouldn't have imagined their current partner as who they thought they'd end up with, or who they would have preferred to be with, yet they're satisfied or at least content anyway. What does that say? It says that people idealize who they would like but aren't immune to the complexities of attraction and the pre-programming of evolutionary mechanisms in the brain that have helped us survive as a species. You're thinking about this too hard. If you refuse to get mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 09:31 PM
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I thought this study was very relevant for this sub, which has a large number of high hostile/low benevolent men who struggle with relationships. Maybe it's just me, but when I've seen the "evolution of an incel" (so to speak), it's almost always that they begin as high benevolent/low hostile sexists (ie. they place women on pedestals, act over the top chivalrous, etc.). That's where the whole stereotype of the Fedora-wearing neckbeard saying "m'lady" and trying to act like a 14th century French…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:57 PM
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we are talking about men that are mysogonistic and hold sexist attitudes having less sex Also debatable: women are often more attracted to men who are 'benevolent sexists' than those who are not. https://theconversation.com/why-women-including-feminists-are-still-attracted-to-benevolently-sexist-men-101067 In other words, sexist men are more attractive...just so long as it's the right kind of sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:27 PM
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Companionship? Maybe. Sex? No, it's almost the complete opposite https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19350760/ Empirical research has revealed a positive relationship between number of sex partners and involvement in antisocial behaviors. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201608/how-your-personality-predicts-your-romantic-life Agreeableness—friendliness and empathy versus hostility and insolence; Rick Hoyle and his colleagues at the University of Kentucky (2000) analyzed findin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:14 PM
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What I don’t understand is latching onto this victim narrative that the opposite sex is somehow cruel and unjust or bad for not wanting me. Because it's easier to just say that the world is cruel and unjust than it is to try and change yourself. This is especially true if you believe that in order to succeed here you have to change into a person you don't want to be (which is basically what the whole point of this thread was). These men deceived themselves. I agree, though I'd say the deception …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 11:38 AM
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A guy who approaches me in public doesn’t know anything about me at all Sure, but neither does the guy at the bar or nightclub. Or is that a shouldn't approach zone as well? they often indicate interest to men. True, though in my experience most of them really suck at it. And then the obvious question is what does a guy do if he never gets any indicators of interest? Just accept it and stand against the wall? Why do you want these women? Are they quality women? I'm not making any assumptions abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 06:58 PM
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It is certainly not any women’s job to patiently entertain every man who expresses interest. Well sure, and I certainly never said a woman is obligated to go out with a guy just because he flirted with her. My point is that I find the whole logic strange. If the onus is on men to take the initiative, do the approaching, initiate the flirting, etc. why wouldn't you want a guy to flirt with you even in a grocery store or on the subway? Your dream guy could potentially walk right by you and he does…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:27 PM
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Was the guy right or wrong to open tinder in front of this girl right after hooking ip? As others have mentioned, right or wrong is pretty much irrelevant here. He got what he wanted, and did nothing illegal to get it. She doesn't like it? Ok, there's clearly several other women waiting right behind her. Like, imagine you work a Sales job and you have a co-worker who does something that is a little bit shady, but is definitely not illegal. You refuse to do this shady thing because you think it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:17 PM
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Yes, a lot of women don’t like being interrupted by someone who wants something from them while they’re busy, the same way most people don’t like being interrupted by solicitors who want something from them. It’s a very normal human feeling to not like strangers pestering you and trying to get you to “buy” something or do them a favor. To me this seems counter-intuitive: if you're supposed to be confident in yourself, then you should be confident that the woman you've walked up to wants what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:07 AM
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How do they think men and women start dating, if no one ever asks and flirting is evil? Good question. According to some people, if you're a genuinely nice guy and good person, you'll somehow magically just find dates. You know, women will see you on the other side of the coffee shop and just know by looking at you that you volunteer at homeless shelters and give money to charity and are kind to everyone, and they'll walk over and ask you out. If I'm being a little flippant here, it's on purpose…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:05 PM
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I don't necessarily agree with OP on a lot of stuff, but it's 100% true that a lot of guys are raised on a steady diet of "men are scum and women are wonderful", and the idea that the way to make women like you is to be over-the-top chivalrous and nice. We're told constantly that things like being highly arrogant and just walking up to women and flirting with them is something only "douchebags" do, and that women hate it. But then any guy with eyes can see that this very often isn't true. Do nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:18 PM
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Why is it so challenging for some men to see a drug-dealer’s girlfriend and recognize that her simply being hot isn’t enough to make her a good person? It's not just men here: pretty much everyone perceives attractive people to be smarter, more capable, and more trustworthy than unattractive people. It's called the Halo and Horn effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:24 PM
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Subtly, not subtlety (subtly is an adverb). And my point is that we are nowhere even vaguely close to 'dystopia'. Less than 1/3rd of Americans over age 15 have never been married.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:08 PM
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A lot of people on this sub act like in the 1950s Hollywood movie starlets and models were sleeping with average Joe factory workers and farmers. Newsflash: Women have cared about money, looks, and status for a LONG time, it isn't a new concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 04:48 PM
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Why does it have to be over 35? If you're 40 there's nothing wrong with dating a 30 year old, and there's lot of women who are 30 and older who don't have kids. Now I'm not sure how many of them don't have kids and also don't ever want to have kids, but childless women over 30 are not nearly as rare as they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:16 PM
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Yet I’ve had men I’d rate 3 and 4 and even 2 keep attempting seriously to get me to like them. This is a waste of time on their part but they seem to think they have a chance. Women are far more forgiving of looks in the men they date than the opposite. Don't these two seem in conflict with each other? If women are much more forgiving about looks than men are, why shouldn't those guys shoot their shot?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:10 PM
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-The numbers are partially skewed because men dominate among extremely high earners (in the US, only around 11% of billionaires are women). -Not all degrees are created equal when it comes to earnings. Chemical Engineering majors almost always earn more than Sociology majors. The highest-earning degrees are almost all male-dominated and vice-versa for lower earning degrees. -Men are more likely to say the most important thing for them in a job is money, women are more likely to say the most impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 04:55 PM
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It's not the same because one has a realistic solution, and the other doesn't really. For one, how do you define "inequality" when it comes to dating? With income and wealth, it's relatively easy. If I make a million dollars a year and you make $50,000, our incomes are not equal. If my total assets equal $10 million and yours equal $1 million, our wealth is not equal. But when it comes to dating and relationships, this is almost completely subjective. If I have a hot girlfriend with an awful per…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:12 PM
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They cater to the same types of LA/Vegas/Miami party girls they say they would never wife up, and ask them questions about their standards. If the women give crazy standards, they clown them. If the women give reasonable standards, they clown them or tell them they're lying. I was discussing something similar with someone else, this is why I can't stand the show. They basically go out and find dumb Miami/LA club girls (many of whom are not even particularly attractive and are just completely del…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:11 PM
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This depends on how you define 'wealth', but there's a reason that so many pro athletes and former celebrities wind up broke a few years after their star fades or they leave the league. Read "The Millionaire Next Door", which actually provides tons of evidence for how rich people truly live. The vast majority of people who are wealthy and STAY wealthy don't blow their money on frivolous bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 01:45 PM
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Fresh and fit encourages bad behavior. They invite women on there who are not known speakers or as educated or individuals to debate them, and then talk over them the entire time… Agreed, that's what I can't stand about the show. They go and find these dumb Miami party girls whose whole lives revolve around Instagram, Bang Energy drinks, and trying to have sex with celebrities, and bring them on so they can look like they're really intelligent in comparison. I would love it if they would bring o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:41 PM
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The mass majority of men aren't high value. Pretty much by definition, they can't be. If everyone has something, then it really isn't 'high value'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:32 PM
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It has very little to do with guns. Even in the UK (where firearm ownership is highly restricted) men commit suicide at 3-4x the rates women do. https://www.statista.com/statistics/282203/suicide-rate-in-the-united-kingdom-uk-since-2000-by-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:28 AM
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If he’s doing 1 and 2 with no results and he’s not ugly, then his issue is 3. Yes, but you said if he's doing one of the above, not all of the above. It means paying attention to social cues and her behavioral cues. Which are different for every person. So basically, your post is "if two guys are equally physically attractive, I'm more likely to sleep with the one with the more attractive personality according to what I find attractive in a personality". This seems pretty blatantly obvious to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:14 PM
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If you are not engaging in one of the above, how and why do you expect "casual sexual interaction"? Your definition of the above is both incredibly broad, but also incredibly vague. For example, most guys who attempt to find a girl for a ONS do so at a bar or club, therefore alcohol is almost always involved (drugs often too). So shouldn't they 'expect casual sexual interaction'? Pretty much the same thing with #2. breezy and masculine and intuitive and mindfully escalative AKA sexy Again, this …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:00 PM
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Would be skinnier but I can't stop eating. At least she's honest.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/07/21 02:17 PM
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I find anyone calling themselves a “high value man” or “high value woman” peak cringe. It’s contrived and personally screams “low rent” to me. Like they watched too much “lifestyles of the rich and famous.” 100% agree on this, it's the same thing with stuff like "Fresh&Fit". Their definition of "high value" seems to basically be "dumb rich guys we follow on Instagram", who are usually only rich because they have wealthy parents. Newsflash: the vast majority of people who are very rich (and stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:08 PM
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For example my man bought me a kitty collar when we were young just to troll people All this screams is that you desperately want people to pay attention to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:58 PM
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It only shows longevity, not success. Many married couples are miserable. I would suggest that many, many more are less happy than they would be if they had engineered their lives in a different fashion (although I admit this is unknowable). Then you need to define 'success' here. Is 'success' they are married and completely 100% happy with no issues? What if they're married but mostly happy? What if they aren't particularly happy being married, but they would be less happy if they were single? …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:52 PM
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But if you’re a woman with a bunch of inheritable illnesses, who feels like she could never be a good mother anyway, what should you do since you can’t be a mom which is apparently what women would be the happiest doing? If you're ok with not having kids, then find a guy who doesn't want kids either. If you do want kids, find a guy who would be ok with adoption, or a guy who already has kids. You can be a good mother without having to pop the kids out yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:48 PM
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As someone mentioned, the numbers are lopsided because very few guys are going to get on there and say "oh yeah I'm super attractive, I'm basically a model". Far more guys are going to get on there and say they're ugly or unattractive (probably in a joking manner). Western culture as a whole is generally against the idea of being a braggart, and this is especially true in cases where you're hiding behind a computer screen and we have no idea how true or false your statements are. And even then, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:31 PM
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Women r self reporting and don’t know what they are missing out on & r conditioned to settle for less than satisfactory sex & wouldn’t know they can have better if they are not experienced. LOL, misogyny much? "You can't listen to what these women actually tell you because they're brainwashed and don't know better. You need to listen to me instead!". Looking at that first study The paper is a compilation of over 200 studies. This is a common phenomenon. So surely you must have tons of evidence o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:51 AM
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That Guardian link doesn't work, but your entire premise seems flawed because studies are highly mixed on marital sexual satisfaction. Someone posted this (https://www.redalyc.org/pdf/337/33729172008.pdf) earlier today, and it had this to say regarding sexual satisfaction in marriage: some studies revealed that women reported more sexual satisfaction than men (Rehman, Rellini, & Fallis, 2011), while others found the opposite results (Ji & Norling, 2004). However, among the studies reviewed, thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:31 AM
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Most people don't cheat with coworkers That study doesn't specify if they're coworkers or not, it just says: "It turned out that most people reported extramarital sex with a close personal friend (53.5%), followed by the category of neighbor/friend/long-term acquaintance (29.4%)." Coworkers can fall into either of those categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:11 PM
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OP is misinterpreting the data here a little bit: this survey was done on people who were already members of Ashley Madison, so this doesn't necessarily show who cheats more, it shows what the Professions tend to be of men who use Ashley Madison to cheat. I would theorize that both of those groups (men in trades and men in IT) use Ashley Madison a lot because they work in fields where there are very few women. And guess what? Most affairs actually start in the workplace (will be interesting to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:56 PM
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Sure you could say economic pressures and poor work/life balance are the cause The poorer you are, the more kids you have: https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/ And it's been this way for basically the entirety of human history. While social changes can certainly play a role, I'd argue it's economic changes more than anything else. As countries become wealthier and citizens enjoy a higher quality of life, the birthrate tends to drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:11 PM
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I think it's a legit issue, for 3 big reasons: -As someone mentioned, it's sort of a chicken and egg problem: women aren't friendly to men in this manner because the guy assumes she's interested in him, so guys rarely have women be particularly friendly to them...which causes them to think she's flirting whenever a woman actually is particularly friendly to him, because it's so rare. -Women and men's interpretations of 'showing interest' are often very far apart. I've lost count of the number of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:48 PM
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I think the thing a lot of women get wrong with careers is that they're proud of their accomplishments (as they should be), so they think it should make them more attractive as well (similar to how it does with men who have high prestige/high paying jobs). But the simple fact is that men don't really care. Like ok, it's great that you're a Doctor, but you being a Doctor doesn't make me more attracted to you physically or to your personality. And, frankly, a lot of these women's personalities get…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:25 PM
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How come I never see that same reply to women who struggle? It’s always sympathy being thrown at them. To be honest, I don't think I see a lot of women posting here about their dating struggles. That being said, you bring up a good point, and I think it has to do with the 'victimhood culture' that is so prevalent in US society nowadays. In this worldview, Women are victims ("the Patriarchy! Sexism! Mansplaining! Male gaze!") so implying that they're doing anything wrong is essentially victim-bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:31 AM
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If 88% of women are in the obese & overweight category, and only 12% of women are healthy in weight category, this means only an extreme small amount of desirable women are dateable. You're oversimplifying the stats a little here. Older people are more likely to be obese than younger people. I couldn't find specific stats on it, but I would also assume that means they're more likely to be overweight than younger people. A plain looking skinny young woman of college age could set up an only fans …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:30 PM
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Not necessarily a red flag, but it's definitely something I'd be curious to know why. My initial assumption would be that she's highly religious, which in that case means it's probably a no-go between us since I'm not. Assuming it's not a religion thing, it's honestly pretty much a neutral thing for me, I wouldn't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:54 AM
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Part of it is simple envy. It's difficult for the vast majority of men to get casual sex, it's incredibly simple for the vast majority of women to get casual sex. Poor people can be angry at wealthy people while also wanting to be a wealthy person themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:22 PM
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They don't know any life outside of this bubble so they obv they wouldn't end up with a man that has anything going for them. Anecdotal here, but after College I lived in a lot of shitty, small towns (Military). I was educated, successful, smart, etc. (if I may say so myself), so I sort of assumed that any woman I met who was poor and basically stuck living in this shit town would go ga-ga for me. Instead it was largely the opposite: we basically grew up in such wildly different environments and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:49 PM
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The extent to which things like confidence, sense of humor, style, etc. can somehow make you overlook what a guy looks like physically. Don't get me wrong: if a girl is funny, has a good personality, interesting, etc. it definitely makes her more attractive, but it cannot turn a girl who I have no physical attraction to into one I want to be with. I just can't understand how you can look at someone and physically want nothing to do with them, but then they're funny or are very confident and sudd…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:42 PM
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I'm convinced more than ever that a lot of RPers get their viewpoints of sex and dating almost entirely from cuck porn and trashy celebrity news. They think women are 100% id, and are incapable of not dropping their panties the moment they lay eyes on a celebrity or any guy who is slightly better looking or wealthier than their SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:12 AM
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confidence is the number one and two trait to have if you want to be successful in life period. This is debatable, depending on how you're defining success here. There's very little evidence that people with high self-esteem (which we can pretty much conflate with confidence) are more successful than those without it. https://hbr.org/2012/09/to-succeed-forget-self-esteem.html https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/after-service/201703/is-your-self-esteem-too-high-be-successful I'm sure you've a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:57 AM
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So much of this is wildly subjective. Winners are happy and confident. Losers are sad and insecure. I've known guys who lived in their parent's basement, worked dead-end jobs, and spent all their free time playing WoW and LoL. And they were happier than guys who were Doctors and made $400K+ a year. So, which one of them is a 'winner' and which one is a 'loser'? And given the choice, which one are you going to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:55 PM
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Late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:48 PM
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It's escalating abusive and violent sexual acts in men. There is almost no evidence that porn leads to increases in sexual assault, or really any sort of violence. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault https://www.utsa.edu/today/2020/08/story/pornography-sex-crimes-study.html https://theconversation.com/porn-doesnt-lead-to-rape-culture-10957 https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kgjwp/sexual-violence-is-a-huge-problem-but-dont-blame…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:59 PM
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I just find it sort of gross if he’s a porn addict. It conjures images of dried up cum everywhere and a man who has no drive for anything as he wallows in his excretions on page 654 of Xvideo. What are your thoughts on Terry Crews admitting his porn addiction? https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-terry-crews-battled-and-eventually-overcame-his-pornography-addiction/ Much in the same way that you have 'functioning alcoholics', not everyone who is a porn addict is an obese, unemployed ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:16 PM
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LOL, couldn't help but think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNY9MQmaBBI
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:50 PM
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As someone who's probably a lot older than most of the folks here, I agree. I basically grew up on the movie plot line of "hot girl at school dates the asshole jock guy, but the underdog hero protagonist of the story eventually does something great, so she dumps Douchy McFootball for the hero". From a purely fictional setting, it makes sense, because movies are almost always about the Underdog, because the hero needs to have some sort of struggle. Likewise, movies basically always aim for the 'j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:46 PM
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Women don't want to date a guy who belongs to any group that is associated with negative traits i.e. neckbeards, weirdoes, creeps, losers, dorks, nerds, incels, etc. LOL, nerds, really? Nerd stuff is so mainstream nowadays that the idea that a woman doesn't want to date Henry Cavill because he plays Warhammer or Joe Manganiello because he plays Dungeons and Dragons seems quite distant from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:07 PM
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I'm not upset, I don't really care, it's just strange that your definition of 'neckbeard' seems to be "guy who is into stuff I don't like". Like, if I'm reading this right, Henry Cavill is a 'neckbeard' because he loves Warhammer and paints the miniatures for fun, a hobby that I'm sure leans very heavily male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:17 PM
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So you don't think there are ANY women who like comic books?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 06:53 PM
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A skinny balding social awkward guy who loves comics i know - neckbeard Maybe our definitions are different, because "Neckbeard" here just seems like "nerdy guy I don't think is attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:56 PM
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So you'd have sex with confident Danny Devito over non-confident Idris Elba?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:32 PM
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No, I can't. You just said "confidence is the most important factor" (at least for many women). So, again, if given the choice between confident Danny Devito and non-confident Idris Elba, who do you choose? Or do you choose none?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:32 PM
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That may be true, but it's a lot easier to say "involuntary celibate" or "Incel" than it is to say "involuntarily romantically uninvolved because of your divergent personality and malsocialization". Which I guess would be "inromunibecyourdivpermal".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:30 PM
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So what happens when the confident one looks like Danny Devito and the non-confident one looks like Idris Elba. Which one gets their dick wet?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:10 PM
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Women not wanting an out-of-shape unhygienic neckbeard who dresses like an overgrown 10 year old boy, does not mean women only want a 6 foot Adonis with an 8 inch dick and is absolutely flawless. I get that, but it's weird to me that people seem to act like neckbeards are just all over the place and all guys need to do is put in a modicum of effort. Maybe it's just the circles I ran in, but thinking about my 20s and 30s, I'd say maybe 2-3% of single guys I knew were straight up "neckbeards". And…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:39 PM
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Porn sets expectations that are unrealistic. The average women is not going to want to be fisted, many women do not want anal (dare I say the majority), they think slapping them or cumming on their face is degrading etc. But men think these things are perfectly normal to pressure a woman to do. Maybe it's just me, but I always felt like the unrealistic expectations that porn sets are unrealistic expectations for men, not women. I watched porn and I knew full well that these girls were actresses …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:45 PM
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I literally said "prior to the allegations against him". And you said (in all caps) that you're talking about PHYSICAL ATTRACTION. Women were highly attracted to Deen despite him being a short, skinny, lean dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:58 PM
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not even lean skinny guys are in demand, in pornography catered toward sexual fantasies of straight women we essentially get the same guy; athletic 6ft white or sometimes black stud that rails them. Prior to the allegations against him, women LOVED James Deen, and he was 100% a lean skinny dude (he's also 5'7). Hell, Deen was so popular that it became controversial because many of his fans were swooning teenage girls. From what I've read, a lot of women also like Owen Gray and Danny Wylde, who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:35 PM
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I think most people tend to have a little bit of a visceral "they could do so much better" reaction when they see a 'high value man/woman' dating a 'low value man/woman'. It's sort of a sense of resentment you feel that they're 'squandering their gifts', so to speak, because you feel like if you looked that good, you'd be dating someone much better looking. The reason it gets so much hatred on RP forums is because it undermines their ideology on several fronts. 1: "Chad" is supposed to spend his…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:17 PM
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I think men seriously overestimate how easy it is for "hot guys". I've been told I'm a good looking guy (by women and men) and I've always been in really good shape. I can count the number of times that a woman has hit on me (in public) on one hand. I've had friends who were basically the pinnacle of hotness: six pack abs, 6'+, great shape, good-looking, etc. We could go the beach, and they still had to take the initiative and walk up to girls and go flirt with them. It's not like they could jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:49 PM
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As long as she's not an asshole about it, I 100% appreciate when a woman tells me what she enjoys and what feels good. Everyone is different. If a guy melts down when you tell him what you like in bed, either: A: Your tact is terrible and you basically insulted him. B: He has ultra low self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:19 PM
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This isn't that shocking: FDS is (more than likely) very white and very liberal (like much of Reddit), and white liberal woman have insanely high rates of mental illness. https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/over-50-percent-white-liberal-women-under-30-mental-health-condition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 03:11 PM
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Lol, way to remove women's autonomy. "I had sex with a well-endowed guy, didn't really like it". "OBVIOUSLY YOU WEREN'T TURNED ON ENOUGH, SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:54 PM
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who was destined for a good job and a comfortable salary Trust me: no one is 'destined' for anything. I've known people who had great grades in HS but made shit decisions later, and vice-versa for people who didn't do well in HS. Always remember: Salespeople (usually) make more than Engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:52 AM
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A woman's vagina can stretch out to give birth to a baby, there's no such thing as "too big" from a human male. That seems like really weird logic, because having a baby fucking hurts. The fact that a vagina can stretch out to huge proportions doesn't mean it's fun. A man being 'too big' doesn't mean he won't fit in there, it means it doesn't feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:46 AM
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'if you can't love me now, don't love me later when my later is greater.. Those seem like polar opposite things. The woman is talking about something that is happening right now, you're talking about future potential. That being said: stay the hell away from any woman who says that. While the woman is not obligated to fall in love with the man, I find it obnoxious they change their tune.. I get your point, but on the flip side, let's not pretend that a guy who got asked out by a fat girl in high…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:57 AM
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This doesn’t explain all the plain women who are in relationships. Lots of guys have to take what they can get. if all they care about is looks I never said all they care about is looks, I said looks were more important for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 06:38 PM
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You're 100% right that time comes for everyone and (all other things being equal) it's extremely rare someone looks better at 45 than they did at 25. Arguably, the difference (and since this is PPD we're talking primarily about dating and relationship dynamics here) is that in the dating world men can generally 'get away with' not being highly physically attractive if they have other things to offer (wealthy, stability, highly successful career, etc.) while women can't. All of those things usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:20 PM
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Do you think men are starting to refuse to fuck/date down out of pride? If not, will they ever? Specifically for men, how does a woman’s looks impact your sense of pride when courting, dating, and having sex? If we're just talking about ONS, then in my opinion not really. It's been a while since I was in my 20s when me and my friends were hitting up bars and nightclubs, but even then it was generally seen that getting laid, even with someone who was not attractive, was better than going home alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:34 AM
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If I'm being candid, probably the most generally fun time I had in my life was when I was single but had a FWB. Because you have a reliable sex partner, you don't really have the thirst for sex all the time that comes from being completely single. Ironically, it actually made dating more fun as well, because it takes away a lot of the desperation aspect of it because you're not desperate to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:43 PM
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Honestly, it's probably not going to happen. A lot of people are saying that subsidized childcare, Federally mandated maternity/paternity leave, free pre-K, all this stuff will increase people having kids, but the truth is that your financial status has almost nothing to do with whether or not you have kids. In the US (and the world, for that matter), the poorer you are, the more likely you are to have kids. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/ Hell, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:39 PM
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You should tell the guys that but point to some 70-year old pockmarked near-corpse. I have had unattractive women comment and/or hit on me. Shoot, in my early 20s we often went to a local club we jokingly referred to as "Cougar central" because it was filled with older ladies, and let me tell you, they did not give a shit. Guess what? It's still enjoyable to be seen as attractive by someone, even if you're not physically attracted to them. It's still enjoyable to get a message from someone on Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:27 PM
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I think why some men don’t understand why it’s bad is because they see it as being desired and attractive but in reality it’s not actually like that. These men look at you like a piece of meat that has no feelings or autonomy. They pretend to be nice just to have the chance to use you and then discard you. They don’t actually desire “you” they just want access to a small part of you. I think they get it, but they just can't understand it, for lack of a better explanation. Like, tell a guy "hey, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:07 PM
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Men usually remember compliments for years because they are so rare. When I was 21, I was running one day without a shirt on, and a group of girls (high school or college age) drove by me and gave the me the "wooooooo!!!!". I was in really, really good shape, so it wasn't done mockingly. I'm 39 now, and I'm still riding that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:13 PM
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I also hate the concept of "unrealistic beauty standards", but really the only ones I would say are particularly 'unrealistic' is use of photoshop and airbrushing on social media. Once upon a time, only magazines could really alter pictures digitally, so it was sort of understood when you saw pictures of models that there was some enhancement happening there. Nowadays, anyone with an Instagram profile can touch up or alter their pictures, which I think makes more women think that the look of XYZ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:07 PM
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Actually, the people most negatively affected will likely be Asians and Jews, but racists and anti-semites tend to not be able to see these sorts of nuances.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:25 PM
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and it’s assumed white men will especially hate the oncoming programs but alas what can be done? Affirmative action, quotas, and 'positive discrimination' are, by definition, not "equality". it’s assumed white men will especially hate the oncoming programs Yes, people tend to hate it when you legalize that it's ok for them to be discriminated against. It's called the Civil Rights movement. alas what can be done? Don't legalize racism and sexism, easy. Diversity is coming forcing it’s way through…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:12 PM
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Racism and sexism is still very much alive and integrated within our systems. I agree: we permit discrimination on the basis of sex and race in the form of diversity quotas, 'positive discrimination', and affirmative action. Those are literally integrated into the system, and they are racist and sexist. Getting rid of them doesn’t dismantle all the racism and sexism, now does it? No, getting rid of racism and sexism dismantles racism and sexism. Legalizing (and really, mandating) racism and sexi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:38 PM
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You asked for examples of diversity quotas and 'positive discrimination', and I provided it to you. Navigating affirmative action, diversity quotas, etc is tricky and will continue to be a challenge and a source of conflict. Then get rid of them, no more source of conflict. Do you think the people who are pushing for diversity & inclusion are 100% in the wrong? It depends on what you mean, both "pushing" and "diversity and inclusion". However, in the long run, if your ultimate goal is a society …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:42 PM
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https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/united-airlines-sets-new-diversity-goal-pilot-training/6EPFPMWTE5GZDBYPLPJZC4NGCI/ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-01/can-quotas-fix-diversity-these-major-companies-hope-so https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-rolls-out-diversity-quotas-for-corporate-boards-11601507471 The 3rd one is especially pertinent because it isn't a company making the decision: it's the Government mandating company's diversity quotas. Edit: Almost forgot! https://www.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:57 PM
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Unless you are trying to be a fitness model or rocket up the Corporate ladder by working 80+ hour weeks all the time, there is absolutely no reason you cannot have a career and also stay in really good shape. The main thing to remember is that being accomplished, having a career, etc. is great (unless the guy has super low self-esteem and is threatened by your success). But what it can't do is make a physically unattractive woman attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:18 AM
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-Men don't really care. -When most men see buff dudes, their initial thought is usually not "PHOTOSHOP! EATING DISORDER! FEMALE GAZE!", "UNREALISTIC BEAUTY STANDARDS!", etc., their initial thought is usually "damn dude, good work" followed by "what do I have to do to achieve that?". And notice that this wasn't always a thing. Why is it happening now all of a sudden? How did women buy their clothes in the 1990's? The rise in Obesity in the US over the years is insane. Read this excerpt from a CDC…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:44 AM
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LOL, 5'9 200 lbs for a woman is pretty damn big. To put that into perspective, Serena Williams is 5'9 and weighs 159 lbs, and she has muscles for days. If you're a woman who is 5'9 and 200 lbs, I can pretty much guarantee you are extremely fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 01:37 AM
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I live in the states now but lived in Germany for 2 years. You actually get to talk a bit, in the states you just get declined outright for your looks. If anything, in Germany specifically I found the complete opposite: women were much more standoff-ish and didn't want to meet new people in bars. It wasn't like this in a lot of other European countries and definitely not like this in the US. When I met people they asked for my social media, which I have never been asked before in 25 years of liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:17 PM
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You can improve your looks by taking care of your skin, hair, weight and style. If you are really ugly, consider plastic surgery. I'm confused: I thought you said lots of women liked "ugly men"? So why are you giving a bunch of advice on how they can stop being ugly? This would be like me saying "men actually love fat girls" and then giving you a bunch of weight-loss tips. Your expectations are probably too high because you are shallow and superficial. Try to see women as humans, and you will le…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:01 PM
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The fact that pretty women get cheated on is like saying you should never try to earn a lot of money because even millionaires sometimes end up broke. But yes, 100%, focusing on appearance is extremely important for women. No matter how great your personality is, if a guy doesn't have raw physical attraction for you, it simply won't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:08 AM
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I lurk here, and I see so many redpillers make this mistake by equating marriage to 'gambling.' But this appears to me to be a misunderstanding of statistics. A rate of 50% only describes the distribution of data. It says nothing about LIKELIHOODS. I do agree with you on this, but it still is technically a gamble. Why? Because no matter what, you cannot control your partner's actions. You could do everything 'right' and be the best spouse in history, and they still might lose their minds or have…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:03 AM
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Again, it depends. If you're dating someone who is so vehemently anti-porn that they consider any porn consumption unacceptable, then you could not be even vaguely close to 'addicted', but it would still be causing issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 11:46 PM
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This is sort of tough because you need to define what you mean by "addiction". The ASAM says it's: "Addiction is a treatable, chronic medical disease involving complex interactions among brain circuits, genetics, the environment, and an individual’s life experiences. People with addiction use substances or engage in behaviors that become compulsive and often continue despite harmful consequences." So for example, if you dated a guy who you thought played way too many video games, but he was able…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:49 PM
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If anything, I feel like it's the total opposite. In high school (and college, to some degree), looks matter because that's essentially all you have. No one really has a job and a 'lifestyle', no one really has accumulated wealth or anything. Yes there are definitely guys who come from wealthier families and what-not, but beyond that everyone is in a fairly similar boat. Fast forward 15, 20, 25 years, even when you take looks out of the equation, there are CLEAR delineations between guys at that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 07:41 PM
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You're entitled to search for whatever you want. But you're not entitled to actually find it. Between the two though: I think you're much more likely to find a virgin woman than a man who never watches porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:07 PM
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They don't want every girl, but when it comes to just having sex (no relationship), they'll pretty much have sex with every girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:50 AM
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There is this assumption that if you are into masculine hobbies and enjoy them then people will assume that you’re a douchebag with a small penis. I have pretty much never heard men say this in seriousness; it's always women. There is, among men, the idea that liking feminine things means you're gay, but I feel like this is vastly less prominent than it was 2 decades ago. The only time I really see "men who hate men" is guys who shit on guys whom they see as popular douchebags, but it's blatantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 10:45 AM
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Counterpoint: if his standards are too high, it makes him look unattractive because then he looks ridiculous and dumb. If you have a guy who is fat, has bad hygiene, and works as a fry cook at Burger King, and says he won't date anyone who doesn't look like a bikini model, technically speaking that guy has high standards. But to you he probably just looks like an idiot and that makes him more unattractive. Really all you're saying is that being desperate isn't attractive, which is pretty much co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:25 PM
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I'm really curious to know what the litmus test for "porn addiction" is. or engaging in even minor low value activities like following Instagram strippers LOL, "how dare he look at attractive women"! Instagram is pretty dumb, but I don't think looking at attractive women on Instagram is any dumber than spending tons of time on Facebook every day. Like why should I settle for someone with no integrity? What here implies a guy has no integrity? I don't see anything on here regarding him breaking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:55 PM
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23 year old man and 18 year old girl? LOL, couldn't help but think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABo4_Lhqpc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:46 PM
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Maybe? I don't know, if I google "Cargo Shorts" there's about 800,000 different styles, so I'm not 100% sure which are faux pas and which aren't. Or maybe they all are? Being old and married and not giving a shit about fashion is great sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 06:39 PM
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And personally as a woman I would want to be on a date with a guy that looks like they’re ready to go fishing at a moment’s notice. LOL, yeah if a guy wears them on a date then I got it. I never said they were fancy, just practical and comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:28 PM
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That's why I'm confused. I've always associated them with wealthy, dude-bro Frat Boy types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 03:21 PM
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cargo shorts What is with the hatred towards cargo shorts? I don't mean specifically with you but in general, because there seems to be this big thing where they're apparently a huge fashion faux pas. Especially if you live in a place that's super hot/humid, cargo shorts are highly practical and very comfortable. They're just shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:54 PM
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Shit outta luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:04 PM
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I'd actually argue the women have it worse in this particular regard, because a broke man can get wealthy and become much more attractive, an extremely unattractive woman is by and large just SOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 08:57 PM
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Perhaps the truth is boys weren't interested in where "the truth" resided. Well yeah, because that media wasn't really made for them. This would be like me complaining that women didn't understand men because they didn't read Maxim or FHM, or that men don't understand women because they don't read romance novels. Sure you're technically right, but that media wasn't really designed with them in mind, so it shouldn't be shocking that they don't consume it. As for the 'lied to by the media narrativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:43 PM
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The thing they don't factor in is that no matter how hot a guy is, he will very often take a guaranteed lay with an average woman over a not-guaranteed one where the girl is better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:58 AM
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The worst part is they’re being so genuine they just don’t understand it doesn’t work like that for us lmfao. I remember reading this hilarious article by an attractive 20-something woman about how she basically traveled the world and never stayed in a hotel, because it was so easy for her to find people who were willing to let her stay at their place for the night. She basically wrote the whole thing like "I don't understand why everyone doesn't just do this like I did!".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:28 AM
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Each gender has a distribution plot of sexual frequency or n count, whatever. That's very true, the obvious big difference is that in the vast, vast majority of instances, women choose not to have sex with lots of partners, men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:21 PM
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It entirely depends on how people take care of themselves. I've known guys who were hardcore athletes in their 20s who completely let themselves go in their 30s, and I've known women in their mid-30s who had better bodies than 95% of women in their early 20s. As women get older they're more likely to have had kids and suffer the effects of this, but men also deal with baldness much more often. Also, from a purely sexual standpoint, assuming she stays in shape, a woman's bedroom skills are almost…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:46 AM
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It sort of depends on what you mean by fighting for social change and human rights. Like you mean they spend a lot of time volunteering and going on mission trips and give a lot of money to charity? Or they spend a lot of time whining on the internet about fat-shaming and pronouns? Because those are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:26 AM
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http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php Here's the one showing that men with criminal tendencies and histories have more sex partners than men who don't: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19350760/ But again, that's sort of against the point: do you define a man's 'worth' entirely by how sexually attractive he is to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 07:19 PM
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All right goal posts, here we go: -in HS, the higher your IQ is, the more likely you are to be a virgin. -Men who drink alcohol and have criminal histories usually have more sex partners than men who don't. So, again, do you think that men with lower IQs who drink more and have criminal records have more "worth" than more intelligent men who don't, because there are more women who want to fuck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:40 PM
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Are you really going to avoid the questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:04 PM
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How are you determining 'worth' here? Serial killers have zero problem getting fan mail from women professing their love for them. Despite being a known abuser Chris Brown has had absolutely zero issue getting more dates post-Rihanna. Tiger Woods had no problem finding women to fuck him even though everyone knew he was married with kids. So do you believe that men who are known abusers, cheaters, and even murderers automatically have more 'worth' than guys who struggle to find dates? Is the only…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:47 PM
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This. So many people won't touch any sort of RP personality because it's been labeled as basically being "privileged white man-babies who are angry they're losing their place in society". So when a black guy comes along and says basically the same stuff, he's functionally immune to 95% of the usual criticisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:06 PM
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LOL, I'm convinced that those guys (and most Instagram influencers, for that matter) are just rich kids who don't have jobs. Like for real, if I want to get up and workout, have breakfast, shower, do a skin care routine, meditate, read, listen to an audiobook, and then go to work, I'd basically have to wake up at 5 AM. But somehow they can get up at 8?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:40 PM
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Absolutely, especially with doing heavy duty ab workouts, running really hard, or doing sprints. You have this sick to your stomach feeling for a while afterwards, and you'll shit your brains out for half a day afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:14 PM
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Do you consider it parent's jobs to educate their sons on how attract women? Fathers yes, mothers no. I think they should help them separate bad advice from good advice, and point out that a lot of what the media depicts is BS. Of course, this is somewhat difficult to say because we have no idea what the dating landscape will look like 17 years from now. If you're a dude, did your parents educate you on how to attract women and was it effective? No and no, and it's one of the things I never real…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:23 PM
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it doesnt even logically make sense, why and HOW would the top 20 % of men sleep with 80% of women. I'm not a Mathematician but the 'how' doesn't seem that complicated. If you have 100 men and 100 women, the top 20 (20%) of those guys are sleeping with 4 different girls each (the top 80). The 'why' is the whole point of 80/20: out of those 100 men, women only find 20 of them attractive enough to sleep with. I get it that 80/20 has issues, but the why and how seems fairly simple to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:12 PM
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Probably the same reason most construction workers in the US are Hispanic (and usually from Mexico): people from poorer countries immigrate to wealthier countries and take up the jobs the native-born and more educated citizens don't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:55 AM
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Don't we basically already have legalized prostitution from Escort services? Like yes, they don't advertise it as that, but it's basically completely understood that if you pay for an escort, you're having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:50 AM
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That's the thing a lot of people get wrong: you can be nice without being a pushover. I was in the Army with a guy who basically turned down being in the NFL to be in the Military (no, not Tillman). Dude was built like a brick shithouse, was an absolute bad-ass, and didn't take shit from anyone. He was also one of the nicest people I've ever met, barely even cussed, volunteered on the weekends, and gave lots of money to charity. Oh, and his wife was a smokeshow who was also incredibly nice too. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:47 AM
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How are you defining "masculine" and "feminine" in this case? Like, I think most of us would agree that Zac Efron is pretty much the poster-child for a 'pretty boy', which we characterize as 'feminine'. But if we were to compare Zac Efron to, say, a big fat construction worker with a beer gut who drinks Miller Lite, dips, and drives a pick-up, Efron is probably 10x healthier and in better shape than that guy. So since we associate physical fitness with masculinity, is Efron more or less masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:28 PM
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I'd argue men generally do. As men get older: -their wealth generally increases. -They still retain the ability to father children -They don't suffer the physical side-effects of pregnancy. -Men's skin is thicker than women's and tends to age better. Women suffer from decreasing fertility, the physical affects of childbirth (assuming they had kids), and their skin is thinner and generally ages faster. They might increase their wealth, but men generally don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:39 PM
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It's much more of a symptom of market forces. Part of this is beyond any sort of woke anger. The era of supermodels is kind of at an end. From a purely 'hot girl' perspective, who cares about things like the VS catalogue or Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue when I can hop online and see Petabytes of porn and hot Instagram models for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:38 PM
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That's not the point. The point is that he's being bullied into running his own business. Doesn't he have the right to run his own business the way he wants?? All businesses are, in some ways, "bullied" in how they run their business, because they're at the mercy of consumers. If he had that much of an issue with the change, he could either A: Stick to his guns, and potentially be let go by the board. B: Resign. Regardless, CEO's are not necessarily business owners, but lets say for argument's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:35 PM
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Just my opinion but I believe porn can lead to men having unrealistic expectations of what an average woman should look like... I've never understood this logic. Why would porn stars make men have unrealistic expectations of what women 'should' look like, any more so than NFL Cheerleaders, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, bikini models, Hollywood actresses, Hooters waitresses, Strippers, or even just seeing hyper attractive women in public who are likely way out of league for the vast majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:03 PM
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its neither extreme, its a combination of both. While I do agree with the idea that it's a combination, that doesn't automatically mean it's a 50/50 split. I'd argue it's more 95% symptom, 5% cause (and that's probably being generous to cause). The issue with the wide availabiilty of free high quality porn is that for those guys lower in the sexual market place porn essentially fulfills that desire and they lose incentive to put in the hard work needed to get sexual variety from actual women. Ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:54 PM
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meaning, just pounding away isn’t as half as hot as the way porn makes it out to be. Of course it isn't. That's why porn is fantasy and not reality. That seems different to men. It is, and that's fine. My point is that I think saying "women don't like ONS as much as men because they don't orgasm as often" is highly misguided, and a huge misunderstanding of a large part of the reason men enjoy having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:08 PM
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IF The 80/20 rule was true, he should be a virgin at the age of 62. You're following 80/20 idea way too literally. Think about it: if the world operated 100% by 80/20 logic, 80% of men would die as virgins, or at the very least never get married or have kids. But the vast majority of men don't die as virgins, and most men do eventually get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:10 PM
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Lol, good deflection but it doesn't answer the question. And I always make sure my partner orgasms. Hell, I've had sex where they orgasmed and I didn't and guess what? Still tons of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:16 AM
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You can have a sexual thought about someone without immediately popping a boner. I'm pretty sure in the 1920s they had other concerns on the mind No one had sex for fun in the 1920s?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:26 AM
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I'm confused on how Instagram or porn matters for this. Like do you think men in the 1920s saw attractive women and didn't have any sexual thoughts about them because they didn't have access to PornHub? I've had months at a time where I didn't have access to Instagram or internet porn, and I still thought about sex with women all the time, and when I saw attractive women I'd still have quick sexual thoughts about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:14 AM
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I do not understand the orgasm obsession. If you talked to single guys at a bar, and asked them 'which would you prefer: you go home and have a ONS with a woman but don't cum, or you go home and jerk off and do cum?" I can almost guarantee you that 100% of the men would pick the ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:02 AM
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on the other hand women who create porn and become hookers are seen as empowered. I think this is a very small (and very loud) minority of sex-positive feminists who think being a sex worker is somehow 'empowering'. I think the more mainstream view is that while we shouldn't shame people for sex work, we shouldn't necessarily praise them either. I think the vast, vast majority of women have zero interest in getting fucked (on camera or off) for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:42 PM
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Just don't mention it until you get really serious. If you're at the point where you both are thinking really long-term and she has never had any idea how much money you have, it's pretty obvious at that point she wasn't after you for money unless she is the Sherlock Holmes of gold-diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:43 PM
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This is arguably because human beings have basically chucked natural selection out the window, because instead of allowing our least fit to die off (as they do in nearly all the animal kingdom) we keep them alive. Imagine if tomorrow every form of welfare, medicaid, socialized medicine, social security, SNAP, public education, charity, etc. disappeared. Those poor people having kids would see their children die en masse because they can't afford medical care or food for them. Children born with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:05 PM
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Barring religious issues, I think the main reason it could backfire on you is: -She's more worried than ever about STDs. -She's worried that some woman is going to show up with a kid that's yours. -This one might be hard to explain, but it could make her question how attracted you actually are to her. Sure you may have had sex with a lot of women, but is your count so high because you went after mostly ugly and/or fat women? And if so, what does that say about her? Honestly, the weirdest thing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:42 PM
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I don't think this is that surprising considering women's participation in the workforce has only gone up, as well as other social changes over the last few decades. -People drink to alleviate stress. Work is stressful. -At least from what I've seen, there's a lot more normalizing drinking amongst women than there used to be, and not just college-aged girls. Jokes about "wine-o-clock" and how book clubs are really just an excuse to get drunk together have become commonplace. -There's a lot less …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:10 PM
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I'd say 95% symptom, 5% cause. Porn might kill a small amount of a man's motivation to go out and get laid, but the vast, vast majority of men will always pick sex with a real-life woman over jerking off to porn. The only instances I can think of when a man would pick porn over a real woman is married men where their wife has either gotten super unattractive and/or their sex life has gotten exceptionally bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:53 PM
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It's bad if it encourages obesity and other unhealthy behaviors. No one would be in support of a movement to have more pictures of models smoking cigarettes, so why is there a movement to have more pictures of morbidly obese models? Discounting that, the whole thing just seems like an exercise in naivete. Do you really think men are going to stop finding slim, fit women attractive because some 300 lb woman posts pictures in her underwear and proclaims #fatisbeautiful? It's really nothing more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:37 PM
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What's the stumbling block here? Logistically, so many of these seem obvious. -Assuming you don't have kids, it's much harder to make plans, date, go do activities, etc. with someone who has a kid than someone who doesn't. -If you don't want kids, she's pretty much an instant no-go. -Assuming the kid's father is still in their life, you get to deal with the awkwardness of basically trying to help raise someone when you're not their real father, when their real father is still involved. If the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:55 PM
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Women saying ”I want a nice guy” or ”I want a good man” IS NOT CODE FOR ”I’ll fuck any guy who is nice to me. Open a door for me and I’ll open my legs!” No guy believes this, and this is the fundamental thing a lot of women get wrong when they do the old "nice guys think they're entitled to sex just for being nice!". That's not at all what they're saying. They're not saying "I'm a nice guy, therefore women should fuck me", they're saying "I am a nicer/more good guy than that guy over there who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:43 PM
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For any man, there’s a woman hot enough to make them jeopardize everything if he thought he had a reliable chance. Reliable chance for what? To have sex with her one time? I'd say no, in that case. You may really really really want to fuck this particular co-worker (or whomever), but most decently intelligent guys have the self-control to not completely risk everything else in their life that they've worked for to have a ONS with a hot woman. If this was true, then any married man who had money …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:35 PM
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You can be nice to your SO and your future family while being douchey to everyone else. In practical terms, that means you always prioritize your SO and your future family over the needs of strangers. In that case, though, you're not really nice, you're just being nice to one person in particular because you want something from them. Why do you think a lot of women say that how a guy treats waitstaff is a big deal, especially on a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 07:34 PM
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In terms of social media presence, I could not care less. In fact, probably the less active she is on social media, the better. The only time it would really matter is a woman who has absolutely zero friends. I don't want to have to be her entire social life, she needs to have hobbies, friends, and interests outside of just hanging out with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:17 PM
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I find it odd that we proclaim that older men are "manipulating" younger women. Like, what the fuck do you think strippers, OF, and Hooters waitresses are doing, besides using their youth and beauty to extract money from less attractive (and very often, older) men? Is it 'manipulation' when a Hooters waitress acts like she really loves spending time with you so you'll give her a extra big tip?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:16 PM
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Are you just comparing the US and the UK, or the US and the rest of the world? For example, the US may have an issue with male sexlessness compared to the UK, but Japan's issues with sexlessness make the US seem like a Roman bathhouse in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:12 PM
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Not sure if I'd reference 'Fight the New Drug" for anything. They're basically a propaganda organization funded by the LDS (though they'll deny this), but it seems weirdly coincidental that they're based out of Salt Lake City. They use pseudoscience and basically all the professionals they reference teach at Brigham Young University (which is heavily funded by the Mormon church). https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/04/a-crisis-of-education/478206/ https://archive.sltrib.com/article.p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:21 PM
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I've always been curious how it works with Escorts (at least in the US): does it fly under the legal radar because nothing about it explicitly says they're paying you for for sex? But then the understanding is that you're supposed to have sex with them, and if you don't you, I don't know, get a 1 star Yelp review? I'm being a little joking but I honestly don't get the difference or how it is that Escort services seem to be able to function with no law enforcement interference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:05 PM
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It's in the report that the person I was responding to posted...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:50 PM
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Some of the stats in that report are insane. You are about 4x more likely to be an Incel if you have a graduate degree than if you didn't even finish high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:16 PM
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Part of the problem is you need to define what you mean by "having sex" here. You're right: the vast majority of men will not die virgins. A man who does is not "average". But if a guy has sex once in his life and then never has sex again, do you consider him a "guy who is having sex" or not? What if he has sex once every 3 years? 5 years? What if he winds up in a relationship at one point and has lots of sex for six months, but then she dumps him and he doesn't get laid again for 5 years? Is he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:15 PM
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There's a lot of reasons. -A large portion of a man's worth is judged by his ability to attract women. Men who can easily find women to sleep with them are seen as successful and the envy of others; men who cannot find women to sleep with them are seen as losers and incels. -Men arguably have less support structures than women, both from a personal and societal standpoint. Men are taught to bury their feelings and just suck it up, while women are 'permitted' (for lack of a better term) to confid…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:59 PM
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I said they were above average, because they definitely are, but my point is that most of them are not Supermodel or Victoria's Secret material. Hell I'm sure a good chunk of them wouldn't even make the cut to be an NFL Cheerleader. In other words, the idea that porn stars are the hottest women in existence (like OP seems to think) doesn't have much basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:29 AM
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Obviously how you define "attractive" varies here, but if we're talking physically, then arguably this is true simply because men care much more about the physical appearance of their partners than women do. Women will fuck guys who are much older and uglier than them for no other reason than they're rich and/or famous. I don't know a single man who would magically go from finding a woman ugly to finding her attractive just because she is rich and famous. It's why gay men stereotypically are in …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:54 AM
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"Charity: the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need." Taxes are not voluntary, therefore they are not charity. Also, as mentioned, it covers volunteering as well, not just monetary donations. Also, your census thing regarding homelessness does not provide the same data for Germany, so the comparison is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:20 PM
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Thats private charity, aka give to people you like. Read the articles, it doesn't just cover giving, it also covers volunteering. And paying taxes for Government programs is not 'charity'. Anytime you go to jail for not doing something, it isn't 'charity'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:09 PM
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LOL, this is such a hilariously stereotypical "Europe good, America bad!" Reddit post. You are bombarded with sexually suggestive content in your shaping years. I'm confused: I thought Americans were hyper prudish concerning sexuality compared to (most of) western Europe? At least when I lived in Germany, it was not at all uncommon to see nude images of women out in public, something you'd never see in the US. In Germany most of the people don't even know apps besides facebook and whatsapp Germa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:16 AM
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Understand that a lot of the commenters on here are young and have been in few (if any) relationships. A lot of their beliefs regarding relationships is based on spending way too much time on the internet reading theories about hypergamy and facial symmetry and the 80/20 rule, etc. Because of that, they have a warped perception of a lot of human interaction because they want to break it all down to quantitative measurements, when it's very difficult to do that in the realm of dating. In other wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:03 PM
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I meet men all the time and out of 10 maybe 3 at the most are people I would say are insufferable or have some sort of “personality” issue . I get your question, but if 30% of men you meet are insufferable or have some sort of personality issue...that's a lot. I would also say that the "assholes:normal dudes" ratio for women seems lopsided because assholes tend to be hyper confident in themselves and they're doing a lopsided amount of the flirting and hitting on women. In other words, if you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:49 PM
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you hear them all the time fcking other girls, while their main chick doesnt really care... Their wives accept that he is fcking other girls, but she doesnt get mad, because she knows she has to share him, and as long as she gets the main attention/resources she is happy. Elin Nordegren would like a word...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:21 PM
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Part of it is that the list seems really unnecessary. As someone mentioned, this seems like a whole lot of words to basically say: -I'm reasonably attracted to you -our values are compatible -our lifestyles and life paths are compatible -our sex life is compatible Which is fine, but then there are other questions. Like, for example, say she met a guy who met every single one of these criteria, but he has a drunk and disorderly in the past (so a criminal record). Out with him? "Is in a good mood …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:04 PM
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I feel like that applies to basically anyone who can't tell the difference between fiction and real-life. And I'd argue that stuff like that is in porn because it's what a large number of men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:59 AM
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LOL, so being a woman in the dating world is the equivalent of being in a maximum security prison and being forced to shower with rapists? That is some next level melodrama.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:08 PM
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If it wasn’t pleasurable for you you’d like it? If it was voluntary sex that I chose to have, then yes, even if it wasn't particularly physically great, it is awesome to feel desired and wanted. You should go to prison then — plenty of dudes would be desirous of your body. I'm not gay, so I don't really care how many dudes want to have sex with me. Still, it's cool to feel desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:30 PM
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Katheryn Winnick is just stupid hot. Janna Breslin is probably my favorite fitness chick, along with Claire Thomas and Julianna Daniel. Emily Elizabeth and Leanna Bartlett for Intagram girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:27 PM
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Being desired because you make someone else’s body feel good isn’t exactly flattering Speak for yourself, that's an incredible compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:05 PM
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Women tend to try and date the men they decide to fuck. Yes, and you are much more likely to be murdered by the men you decide to date and fuck than the ones you don't date and fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:56 PM
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No to that list LOL. "You provided exactly what I asked for, but I don't like that it might prove me wrong, so no".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:55 PM
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If you have examples of what I'm actually asking about Note that this partially depends on your criteria for when a guy is "fat", but... Patrice O'Neal Ralphie May All of Harvey Weinstein's ex-wives Salman Rushdie Kevin James Kyle Gass Jack Black James Gandolfini Kelsey Grammer Obviously this one is heavily cultural, but Sumo Wrestlers in Japan often have very attractive wives. This also isn't even covering all of the guys who are fat but are technically Athletes (like NFL Offensive linemen).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:46 PM
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Patrice O'Neal and Ralphie May both had fairly attractive wives. But I think a lot of it is not necessarily just fat guys, it's just guys who are much older, much less attractive, etc., who while they may not be "fat", are nowhere near as hot as their SOs, and definitely are not in good shape. I can find probably dozens of examples of this phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:48 PM
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LOL, significant other != dude you pity fucked one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:47 PM
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Ugly dudes aren’t nice, on average are not any less misogynistic and abusive than the ones we actually want to fuck This is debatable. The majority of women who are murdered are murdered by their significant other. In other words, you're much more likely to be murdered by the guy you actually are fucking than the guys you reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:10 AM
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The thing is that men do not attribute personality traits to these physiques Boobs are a bad example here because (surgery aside) women don't control the size of their boobs. I would say men do attribute personality traits to women who are very fit vs ones who are not (so do women, for that matter). What about Jason Momoa? He looks like a caveman. Momoa is a big dude but he's not even in the same star system as roided up guys like Coleman or Cutler. Momoa also has an extremely attractive face (o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:51 PM
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You're oversimplifying things here and acting like there is no gray area. This would be like saying "men find Scarlett Johannson attractive and she has big boobs. But they also find Keira Knightley attractive and she has a flat-chest. HOW CAN THIS BE POSSIBLE!?!?" It's also worth noting that the appeal of 'muscular men' has limits. Yes, most women think Chris Hemsworth has a great body, but almost every woman I've ever met thinks ridiculously ripped, juiced-up bodybuilder type guys (think Ronnie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:29 PM
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LOL, 'micro-rejections' are a thing now? "The problem with dating apps is you invest so much in getting to know someone via messages, only to meet them and find there's no attraction, whereas if you met in a bar, you'd reach that conclusion in seconds". Maybe it's just me, but I feel like just saying "OLD" paints too broad of a brush. Match.com is very different than Tinder. At least as far as things like Match or POF are concerned, I find that what she is complaining about is actually the BEST …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:12 PM
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My wife weighs less now that she did before she ever got pregnant. Pregnancy is not a death sentence on your body for the rest of your existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:59 AM
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There's nothing "wrong" with it (though obviously some people can't afford to let go of two month's salary), but from my understanding the whole thing was basically a marketing gimmick by DeBeers company in the 1930s. Somehow, over time, it has turned into "that's the tradition/that's how it's always been".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:57 AM
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Many men will fuck fatties but not date them. Why is this? Because, for most guys, any sex is still better than your right hand. A woman you'd have sex with and a woman you'd get into a relationship with can be two very different things. I had a high school friend who for sure I know liked skinny or fit slim girls. I lost contact with him at age 16 but 10 years later I saw him with an obese woman and young kid in my home town. She was definitely not what he went for at 14-16. In addition to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:32 AM
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For starters, it's a little tough to say here because 20s and 30s is very broad. A 21 year old woman is likely going to be very different when she is 29, same as a 31 y/o woman and a 39 y/o woman. But overall, I always tell people that the most fun I had dating was in my late-20s and early 30s. By that age, most women know what they want, are less self-conscious and more confident (which leads to much better sex). They are more established in their careers and have had more life experiences, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:38 PM
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Why are beauty pageants worse than any sort of bodybuilding (male or female) competition? No one asks bodybuilders how they think we can obtain peace in the middle east, or how to combat child hunger, yet no one bats an eye at men and women's bodybuilding competitions that exist entirely for the purpose of judging men and women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:52 PM
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I posted this some time ago on a very similar thread. I'm a very fit dude (though not as good as I used to be). Tl,dr, muscles help, but they're not a magic bullet. So what I generally found was that, at least for the initial stages of dating, it didn't make that much of a difference. It's not like women just started coming up to me at random and flirting as soon as my bench hit 300+. However, once I was actually in relationships with the women and we were getting physical, it was noticeable how…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:01 PM
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Obviously this is anecdotal, but in my experience beautiful women generally have much better personalities than ugly women. A lot of ugly women are bitter and angry and wear their "life isn't fair" attitude on their sleeve. Not every beautiful woman is a shallow, vapid Instagram 'influencer' who is incredibly self-centered. OTOH (again, IMO), average looking women generally have the best personalities, because they aren't attractive enough that they can skate by on their looks (like beautiful wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:55 PM
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I'm shocked I haven't seen Nurse on here a lot more. Nurses make good money, are always in demand, can work basically anywhere (and for almost any amount of hours), and depending on the type of Nursing have flexible schedules. They also work primarily around other women and, despite what a lot of people believe, most Nurses can't stand the Doctors they work for, so it's not like they're tough competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:03 PM
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Are sexless men sitting around playing video games because they are sexless, or are they sexless because they’d rather sit around playing video games than putting themselves in social situations where they could meet a woman? Is porn so popular because men can’t get sex, or does the instant access to unlimited porn the internet offers just make porn easier and more appealing than actual sex? I think it's a little of both. I think the vast, vast majority of men, if given the option, would choose …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:30 PM
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In Western Australia this year more straight men were diagnosed with HIV than gay men. Only about 3.5% of men are gay or bisexual (it's actually probably lower, as women are much more likely to identify as bisexual than men). Even if more straight men are diagnosed overall it still means HIV/AIDS is wildly overrepresented among the MSM population as opposed to the MSW population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:21 PM
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I've read an interesting theory that a lot of this might be due to the Dunning-Kruger effect, which basically says that smart people tend to underestimate their abilities, while dumb people tend to overestimate their abilities. Because of this, dumb men tend to be much more confident in themselves (and thus much more attractive to women, especially in high school and college age), while smart men tend to be much less confident in themselves, and thus much less attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:25 PM
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Comparing men who are extremely rich, successful, and famous to average Joe men is very disingenuous, because those men are, well, rich, successful, and famous. It's like that thing years ago where they had a picture of Leonardo DiCaprio rocking a "Dad bod", and people were saying "See? Women love Dad Bods! Look at Leo: he has one and he dates nothing but Supermodels!". They don't date him because he has a dad bod, they date him because he's Leonardo DiCaprio. Bad boys only do well with crazy/in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:11 PM
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I'm a guy, so obviously this question isn't for me, but I've never understood the 'locker room talk' thing. I've basically never had an in-depth conversation with a man about my sex life, and I've worked in male-dominated fields (where it was very frequent that there were no women in the room) for my entire adult life. If anything, I learned pretty young that any guy who talks non-stop about his sex life doesn't actually have one. On the flip side, I have had WAY more women ask me private (and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:02 AM
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It arguably matters for both, but it's not necessarily the class you find yourself in now, it's the one you grew up in. The socio-economic class you grew up in is one of the biggest indicators of whom you're going to marry. It's very rare for someone who grew up rich to marry someone who grew up poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:53 AM
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You are never responsible for being the victim of a crime, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take precautions to prevent yourself from becoming a victim in the first place, and advising people to do so is not 'victim blaming'. I don't think Christy Mack in any way, shape, or form deserved to be assaulted or beaten. But I have zero problem telling someone that it's a really, really bad idea to get involved with a guy who has a laundry list of prior convictions and has legally changed his name t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 03:50 AM
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Having done the "nothing but chicken, rice, and broccoli" thing before, you 100% use seasonings and spices. Marinades too, though it'll depend on the type since some marinades are basically just sugar. Appropriate video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px7Uc2GrnhE
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 05:05 PM
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Regardless of the "mechanics" of it all, there are much higher rates of STDs in the gay and bisexual community when it comes to MSMs than in the purely straight community. This is why, for example, there are heavy restrictions on MSMs donating blood but not on lesbian women. This isn't news, and pretty much every major health organization has known this for decades. https://www.cdc.gov/std/life-stages-populations/msm.htm https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20200514/ending-std-epidemic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:46 PM
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Not a woman, but MSMs (men who have sex with men) have much higher infection rates of STDs (including HIV) than men who only have sex with women, so that's at least one reason that is based on logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 03:49 PM
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About tree fiddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 03:46 PM
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If she can't say in shape and take care of herself while she's single, why would I believe she's magically going to do it once she's married? If anything, in my experience, most people tend to become less physically attractive once they're married, because now they're in a "for better or worse" situation and they don't have to constantly be at the top of their game to attract a mate. Is it possible you'll miss out on a woman who might have some crazy revelation and become a fitness model later? …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:23 PM
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Can't say I agree, at least it wasn't that way for me. I'd be much happier going on a date that didn't go anywhere than just getting rejected outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:12 PM
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I think this happens because the majority of these men are childfree and women who are single at 30 ( the majority of them) already have 1 kid at least. So obviously these men don’t want to raise another’s men kid. It’s their right. Since they don’t have options in their age bracket, they go for younger girls who are childfree. I think this might have to do with geographic location and social/economic circles, but go to any major (US) city and I can almost guarantee you could find lots of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 04:19 PM
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Do you wanna get used for free dinners and be dumped after plenty of them? Leaving you drained? Honestly, I'm sure there's plenty of guys who get enough euphoria just from someone actually going on a date with them that they'd answer 'yes' to your questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:42 PM
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LOL, you literally didn't post the next sentence after the one you highlighted: The limitations of cross-sectional studies do not allow us to distinguish whether pornography induces a decrease in sexual satisfaction or whether low sexual satisfaction predicts more frequent pornography consumption, or both. In other words, this doesn't distinguish between whether men use porn more frequently because they're dissatisfied with their sex life, or if they're dissatisfied with their sex life because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:30 PM
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This is sort of like saying "there is no correct way to drive where you couldn't potentially get into an accident". Like yes, technically you are correct, but that doesn't mean there aren't ways you can minimize the risk while still driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 09:25 PM
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We all know looks matter a good degree in terms of dating success Looks matter a good degree but they aren't everything. I've known guys in extremely good shape who still struggled massively in the dating world (hell, I was pretty much one of them). I've known guys who were unattractive and/or overweight who did significantly better in the dating world than extremely fit guys, usually because they had actual personalities and confidence and hobbies, while a lot of looksmax guys had lives that ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 11:23 AM
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Men are significantly more likely than women to go into skilled trades. Is it true that college educated women prefer generally to only date equally educated men? This is a little bit misleading: the biggest commonality people have when it comes to getting married is what socio-economic class they came from, but this highly correlates to their education level as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 01:08 PM
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I assume she could make herself orgasm, but I never asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:07 PM
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I had an ex who could only orgasm by playing with herself while getting upside down face fucked, it was bonkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:30 PM
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Do you ever lose respect for a woman, and start seeing her as "un-wifeable", so to speak because of how often she initiates sex, or certain sex acts she has agreed to participate in with you? No, if anything I'd be way more attracted to a woman who was honest with herself (and me) about what she wanted in bed, and initiated sex as often as I do. I think we'd have a much better sex life too. I utterly hate being in a relationship where I'm the one who always initiates sex, because it feels like s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:28 PM
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PUAs are all about having their own lingo and 'insider' terms. Just saying 'teasing' doesn't make it sound cool or unique, or pique people's interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 05:26 PM
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It's an example of failed negging. Negging gets a really bad rep, but that's mostly because people latch onto really bad examples of it. The idea of negging is supposed to be playful teasing of someone, not being extremely insulting. The idea behind it is showing very attractive women that you are not intimidated by them and treat them just like anyone else, which is attractive for them because they're used to men fawning all over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:44 PM
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That's sort of the point: people have taken negging to be super insulting, but it's supposed to be playful and light-hearted teasing of someone. The idea is supposed to be that you show attractive women (who are used to men fawning over them) that you have a sense of humor and are not intimidated by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:41 PM
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How are going to buy a house without money? How are you going to be able to feed your kids without money? How are you going to handle family emergencies without money? I feel like you're being reductive here. The idea of "women want men who are rich" doesn't mean any man is saying "OMG it's so shallow that women want a man to have a roof over his head and be able to afford food!". They're saying it's ridiculous that (some) women are willing to sleep with and marry men they aren't even vaguely at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:11 PM
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That's true, but it's sort of like telling a person who is starving to death that your situation is totally the same, because you have tons of food available but it all tastes bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 03:25 PM
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Imagine being born an ugly woman, you are fucked. Nobody here argues that being an ugly woman is great fun. The argument is that even though being ugly sucks regardless of whether you're a man or a woman, at least ugly women can still easily find people who will sleep with them. Ugly men cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:38 PM
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This sort of supports your post, but don't forget that men die younger, are much more likely to die on the job or commit suicide, and are more likely to be murdered. women are 56% of college-educated and tend to not like to "date down" women in general don't like to date working class men (retail, food service, etc.) This part might be true, but it's worth noting that this is offset heavily because men make up the vast majority of skilled-trades workers. I knew plenty of Electricians and Pipefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:21 PM
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How much does wife costs you? Nothing, she works full-time, so we actually wind up with more money. emotional suffering and lack of freedom LOL, if it was that bad then get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:52 PM
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Having sex with a woman who actually wants to have sex with you is almost always better than having sex with a woman who is only having sex with you because you're paying her money. Even male porn stars will say in interviews that sex in a porno is nowhere near as fun as having sex with a willing partner. I'm also not exactly sure it'd be cheaper. I have no idea how much prostitutes cost, but I assume a decent-looking prostitute is several hundred dollars a "session". If I'm married and my wife …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:42 PM
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It's not a reflection of their ability to be a good relationship partner, or even a "good" person. No, but it is a reflection of whether or not I want to have sex with them. If a person has an awesome personality but I have no physical attraction to them, why wouldn't I just be friends with them? What is the point of having a romantic partner who I have no interest in being romantic with? I personally find someone more attractive if they have a good personality and we are compatible/share things…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:26 PM
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In this case, I used "models" as a pretty generally term for "people who are professionally good-looking". Not just runway models but bikini models, fitness models, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:14 PM
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looking more like a frame to display the clothes on. From my understanding, that's literally their purpose: to be a walking clothes hanger for the clothes to be displayed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:12 PM
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and they are supported by a host of nutritionists, personal trainers, directors, make up artists, photoshop experts, and marketers such that even a legit 10 wouldn't be able to compete. I think you're overestimating the physical attractiveness of female porn stars, and not understanding a lot of what men find appealing about porn. Take Riley Reid for example (since she's a very popular porn star): she's an attractive woman, but I can guarantee she would never be accepted as a Victoria's Secret m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:54 PM
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I lived in EP for about 3 years and I never once felt like I was in any danger at all, even walking around downtown at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:57 PM
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Why is El Paso on your list? EP consistently ranks as one of the safest major cities in the US https://gov.texas.gov/travel-texas/post/el-paso-lands-at-5-on-advisorsmith-safest-large-us-city-list#:~:text=El%20Paso%20joins%20the%20rankings,and%20as%207th%20in%202018.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:20 AM
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Normal guys DO get laid! It sort of depends how you define "get laid". Technically speaking, a guy who had sex once when he was 21 and then never again for the rest of his life "got laid", but I don't think that's an outcome most guys would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:52 PM
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You already did 'win': you're with that girl and the other guy(s) are not. The fact alone that you did it with zero effort makes the win even sweeter, because it shows just how much 'better' you are than those other guys. If you ran a race against someone, what would make you feel more bad-ass: if you beat them by one second giving it 100%, or if you beat them easily without a lot of effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:25 PM
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Obviously context is everything here (does she have a small tattoo on her arm, or face tattoos?), but despite them gaining more mainstream acceptance, large amounts of tattoos are still largely seen as trashy and low-class. There's also evidence that people with tattoos are more likely to be less educated, have mental illnesses, and engage in risky behavior (though they're not as correlated as they used to be). https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324287#Under-the-skin-of-tattoos
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:08 PM
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OP, are you basing this on any data? As far as I could find, Men are over 30 (on average) when they get married. https://www.theknot.com/content/average-age-of-marriage The idea that a man wants to be a bachelor forever once he hits 30 doesn't seem true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:07 AM
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This is an extreme example, but I think there are a lot of men who have all the assets available to be successful with women, but have zero confidence in their appearance or what they bring to the table. For the most part, men are completely clueless as to when women are flirting with them, and they worry about misinterpreting a woman's signals because that's a quick way to get labeled as creepy. Likewise, I think a lot of women overestimate how much attention men, even good looking men, get fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:20 PM
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I've heard that past about 6'4 your height can actually start to work against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:12 PM
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69% of men would respect a woman less because she hooks up a lot, but only 37% of would respect a man less. While I don't think anyone should respect someone less over this, comparing the two is pretty much apples to oranges. If men could get laid (excluding escorts/prostitutes) as easily as women could, these numbers would likely be much more comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 02:06 AM
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-Confusing 'being nice' with 'being a doormat'. There's a significant difference between being an actual good person, and thinking that just doing whatever everyone around you wants and avoiding any and all conflict makes you a good person. -Inability to relax around women. The big turn-on of 'bad boys' for women is that they don't need her approval. -Being ashamed of their hobbies and interests. I know a lot of guys who are very nerdy, but basically try and downplay and avoid even mentioning th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:38 PM
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100 rejections vs 100 unsuitable dates both results in the same spot. I'd argue that 100 unsuitable dates leaves you with more confidence than 100 rejections. 100 dates implies that those people at least found you attractive enough that they wanted to go out with you. 100 rejections says you didn't even cross that threshold. Putting aside that this woman's problem seems to be that she has really bad taste in men, I'd say it's still really not comparable. A person who is starving is not the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:34 AM
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OR is "Nice Guys Finish Last" all about sex, which I suspect is what it indirectly mean. Where the assholes are "winning" because they get the most sex partners and a normal guy having a loving girlfriend is "losing" because only one woman likes him. To a large degree, yes. It's all based on the idea that women spend their youthful years fucking guys with criminal records, bikers, Chads, douchebags, and guys who are generally abusive and treat them like shit, because they're "bad boys" and they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:36 PM
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I don't think it's necessarily being able to form a friendship with women that is the recommendation, it's being able to interact with women just like you interact with basically anyone else, and then that stops (or at least helps alleviate) making you look desperate. If you treat women like "let's see if this person is cool or not" as opposed to "Oh God what do I need to do so she'll think I'm attractive!?" it, in turn, makes you look more attractive, because it makes it seem like you're not de…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 02:43 PM
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The fundamental tenant of left-wing beliefs is that people are either oppressors, or they are the oppressed. This is now based more heavily on identity than anything else. In their mind, women are oppressed, men are oppressors. So anything that reeks of women generally having privileges over men is either completely ignored, subject to whataboutism ("Oh boo hoo. What about the wage gap!?"), or is handwaved as "oh well that's the patriarchy's fault too". It's a way to dismiss these things because…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 02:35 PM
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Candidly, it doesn't really matter. 3+ billion women are not going to suddenly stop being more attracted to tall men that short men, so whether this is an 'excuse' or a 'reason' is pretty much irrelevant. It is what it is. It isn't fair, but guess what? Life isn't fair, so you shouldn't expect dating to be. So really, you just focus on what you can control and what you can't control, and try and change what you can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:26 PM
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From the sounds of it, these guys just want you to pity-fuck them. Just ignore those guys. As for the difficulties, just acknowledge these (almost) universal differences in dating: -The expectation is almost always on the man to make the first move. He is the one who is expected to walk across the bar and put himself out there and hope he doesn't have to deal with being rejected, which is even more fun when it's in front of your friends so he gets to have an audience when you tell him "no". Gran…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:00 PM
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"Nice guys Finish Last" implies that there are guys trying to get dates, but are getting rejected. "Where have all the good men gone?" implies that these women are the ones rejecting men because they think they aren't good enough for them. So they are similar in that they basically blame everything on the opposite sex, but for very opposite reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:48 PM
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Yes, I am ancient and wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:53 PM
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Nope. It's not. No one wants "their mind changed" by a stranger. Except that's literally what you just said. "I don't want to have sex with you" (Gets to know him better) "Now I do want to have sex with you". She changed her mind, because once she got to know him better, she was CONVINCED that he was someone she wanted to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:16 AM
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It isn't that women want men and men get validation from that. Some women want some men, they don't necessarily want all men. It's that men get validation from convincing women to do something they didn't initially want to do. Pretty much, yep, because if you ask the question "would you fuck a member of the opposite sex you just met?" a very large percentage of men will say yes, and an incredibly tiny percent of women will say yes, and they've done numerous social experiments to prove it. So, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:36 AM
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I said 'don't just want sex for', the physical act of sex feels good as well. Also, pressuring someone for something does not mean they 100% didn't want it and you forced them, it means you convinced them they did, so it's still gives a sense of validation. If I go to a car dealership thinking I'm going to buy a sedan and the Salesperson pressures me into buying an SUV, it doesn't mean I didn't want a car at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 10:46 PM
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If they only wanted pure sex than they would just hire prostitutes. Men don't just want sex for the physical act and pleasure of sex, they want sex to feel desired and validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:59 PM
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So if thats the case most men who are sexless should ask women to be their gf right? Then they would have sex with them right? If all you want is sex and you don't want to actually be in a relationship with this person, why would you ask them to be in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:50 PM
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For one, your post title seems to contradict your first paragraph. First you say "how can so many women be this delusional?", but then immediately after it "...I think its fair to say that most of the posters are there are reasonably above-average in intelligence and general savvy about the world." So are most of them reasonably intelligent and savvy, or delusional? Second, if, in a period of 3 days, you had sex with 2 different women and then made out with a 3rd, you are doing far better than '…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:38 PM
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I don't think it'll change things that dramatically, though part of it depends on the BC itself. How expensive is it, how often do you need the injection, etc. I think it'll help relationships because men now have more BC options than just vasectomy, condom, pull-out method. I can't imagine any woman having a one-night stand is going to trust a guy who says he's on Vasagel and not make him use a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:09 PM
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If all that mattered was the orgasm, the guy would just jerk off and save himself a lot of time and energy. Go to a singles bar and ask the guys there a hypothetical: they can either go home with a girl have sex with her, but they won't cum during the sex, or they can go home and jerk off and cum. I can pretty much guarantee you that 95%+ of the guys would choose the first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:58 AM
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ugly/Unnactractive Spelling aside, I'd argue that ugly and 'not attracted to them' are not the same thing. With that in mind, for me: just not attracted to them? All of the time. Straight up ugly is really rare if we're not including women who are super obese. The number of women I've met in decent shape who just had really ugly faces is incredibly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 06:36 PM
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While it's nice to see attention being paid to unrealistic standards for men, it's not like 'guys with unrealistic bodies' is new in Hollywood. Think of Van Damme, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Lundgren, and all those other action actors in the 80s. They were all on vast quantities of roids and ridiculously cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:21 AM
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Basically saying the standards are set extremely low. This idea doesn't really make any sense to me. The "bar" is essentially set by women, not men. If 100% of women tomorrow said "I will never ever have sex with a guy who is overweight", the # of overweight men would probably drop 90% in a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:30 AM
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still buy Sex Doll Still buy? I'm pretty sure that only a small percentage of men (single or married) actually own a sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 07:15 PM
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Is a woman not having sex with a random stranger a bad thing? No. I don't understand how anyone can expect a woman who is walking around, probably not thinking about sex... Because if you are a man, especially a young man, you are basically always thinking about sex all the time. So it's very difficult to comprehend the idea of someone who: A: Doesn't think about sex all of the time. B: Has nearly unlimited access to free and easy sex, and doesn't take advantage of it. It's not bad, it's just ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:45 PM
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