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You are aware incels are a very small % of the population but a fairly large amount of people IRL engage in slut shaming and its pretty common for men to not take promiscuous women seriously for exclusive relationships right? Otherwise there wouldn't be as many complaints from feminists about societal standards in that regard.
/r/seduction08/05/22 10:03 AM
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Still seems a poor choice of words, *Most men are like that. Very much prone for people to not understand you not to mention words can effect the emotions differently as well. If someone says to themselves "everybody hates me" when only a few people in a group disliked them, that feels allot worse then saying "some people hate me", and given the red pill tendency to focus on the negative with women it just seems like your just encouraging stronger negative emotions and greater dismissal of perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:39 PM
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Men don't like women who step on their balls with high heels. Using your logic this is false. No, But if you said ALL Men don't like women to step on their balls with high heels, then that is indeed false, because "ALL" modifies the rest of the statement to mean the whole quantity without exception. Also language is important, and if you go around saying "all X are like this" and saying it against someone else claiming "not all X are this way" and giving reasons for it your defacto encouraging a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:23 PM
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Well, for one, some men (as well as women) are literally asexual's i.e have no desire for sex whatsoever. So that list is wrong. On a similar note some men have said us males invariably cant have friends with females without wanting to have sex, but I have had female friends whom I had no desires towards. Another example is how when someone says men only can "love unconditionally" and so they can have sex with other females on the side or cheat and still have affection towards there main girl bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:57 PM
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Is AMALT true? what traits do all men universally share without exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 02:59 PM
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you are, uhh, doing it yourself. Not a prejudice to note exceptions exist to rules. Some of my comments like the "yes,yes it is" was mostly me being salty for fun since you seemed kinda jerkish and dispelling your blanket statements/ always bad judgement. You certainly are not emphasizing the "vast majority of men" do'nt want a both way poly relationship either but your ok with it. vast majority of women out there. Which is why I'm not gonna marry most of those girls, and most of my dates will l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 12:29 AM
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no, women were abusing anti-depressants. I'm sure some don't like it. But I'm not talking about pressuring someone who does not want to do it after making them invested in me or trying arrange marriage in an ultra traditionalist Mormon sect I'm talking about being upfront and clear throughout the relationship. your own experiences don't make the reality of one-sided relationships where the woman clearly suffers. Your injecting your own prejudices in. So apparently women are suicidal unless they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 11:55 PM
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IDK about that, but as I just said to your other comment. nothing spells stable than kids seeing their daddy doing the maid Well all the one-sided polygamous marriages I know of are stable and the kids were happy with it, so apparently yes, yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 11:41 PM
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nothing spells stable than kids seeing their daddy doing the maid Well all the one-sided polygamous marriages I know of are stable and the kids were happy with it, so apparently yes, yes it is. and the mother losing her will to live. Women mostly seemed happy with it or indifferent. wow, why arent you married already? Because I've been focusing on establishing myself first and have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 11:36 PM
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nothing spells stable than kids seeing their daddy doing the maid So momma banging the butler while daddy bangs the maid simultaneously in front of the kids is the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 11:07 PM
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1) divorce rates have never reached 50% and are actually dropping It's generally rounded up to 50 since it has been near it sometimes and fluctuates. It's common reported as "about 50". I almost put "rough estimate" in my original but thought it was so obvious that's what I'm doing I decided to be less wordy, guess I was wrong. 2) traditional marriage structures are what created the problems we are describing. Only the alimony and child care, not the divorces. Hence why red pill sometimes dislik…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 11:03 PM
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The only time that ever happens is literally a result of the ideals the red pill/ traditional marriage holds. Red pill was created by that, Not divorce created by Red pill. approx 40% of women divorce (50% divorce rate/80% of divorces by women) from their husbands. Custody goes to who took care of the child. Custody can be joint but their is a bias towards only the woman. If you want a SAHM, it's obviously going to be her. 40% of women who have married are not all SAHM's , conservatives report h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 01:54 PM
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No, I am a believer in red blooded machismo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 01:05 PM
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their value relative to meeting the bottom line and solving the company’s problems (objective) Testosterone has been found to effect this to an extent
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 12:27 PM
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Uum..stuff like that happening is a large part of the inspiration for Red pill and MGTOW. There might not be a purplepilldebate if not for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 12:14 PM
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"one high-quality man, plural women" approach of more interconnected, family-oriented societies. Not likely to see much of this these days, at least not in a socially significant manner outside of exceptions. I't's hard enough to keep "one man, one woman" nuclear family together these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:54 AM
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And illuminatedsoul does not strike me as having enough maturity or self-reflection to be capable of it. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:51 AM
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Most of the people who do this in conservative circle's are Mormon, the whole sister wife phenomena, though I know of at least one example personally of a non-Mormon conservative woman marrying a man who said he was open to sleeping with other women, he did not offer any wealth himself, he just had force of personality. Though usually yes you need some degree of wealth simply as a necessity if your going for breadwinner with more then one woman like I'm going for. "romantic gestures" can be had …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 02:31 AM
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You get an up-vote for the link!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 12:20 AM
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No, I've only had monogamous relationship experience. Trying to be polygamous is something I'm just about to start trying my hand at. My predictions are based off of other's experiences. I would not be surprised to fail hard at first since I have no direct experience at it and examples giving by others for dating(mostly in regards to guys who do normative open relationships) does not mean I can replicate the smoothness if I am unfamiliar with social interplay of it, and I know of conservative ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:46 PM
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Just be honest on the first date that I have other girls, or am willing to have other girls - Many might turn down but some girls go with it. Get into details / the fact it's long term / justification of it through-out the relationship building a case and seeing how much they will be OK with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:31 PM
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Lawful good. Purple Pill/Red leaning. I am a passionate and firm believer in helping out everybody, strangers and enemies included, I've given motivational speeches to cheer up people I loath who cause me trouble. We exist to cherish and give unconditional & absolute love to one another (even the evil one's!) and contribute to the common good - regardless of cost. I also like order, structure, stability, and organization. I try to be Honest and not even tell white lies. But I think I am only sli…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 11:11 PM
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Also I'd give her somewhat of a veto for which girls I see since it's just asking for trouble if your seeing multiple females who dislike each-other and rude /disrespectful towards my future wife whom has a valid interest on whom I see outside of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:53 PM
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Mostly takes 100 times more screening and effort on my part. Seem's to work well for moderately conservative Mormon types. Clearly it would be a bad idea to date people who are habitually prone to tons of drama in their daily life, whether or not your monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:36 PM
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They used to cheat less, at least in the U.S. The Gap has been closing. There has been about a 40 per cent jump in female affairs since 1990.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:32 PM
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Well of course he wants a wife for breeding purposes and side chicks to fuck Pretty much the male Ideal. Although in my case it will be closer to a traditional polygamy style since I will have some informal obligations towards my side girls whom I will have long-term relationships with, and I expect to have children with more then just the main. I'm too darned conservative/orderly in my mind set for casual flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:21 PM
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Thanks for finally being honest about what you really meant with your “traditional marriage”’ drivel. Your welcome, and thank you for the salt. I meant that his motivation for wanting a so-called traditional marriage is to have a woman who caters to him while expecting nothing in return and letting him run all over her. How is their nothing in return? I have to be a exceptional catch to validate this choice, and just as she should not divorce me I am under the same obligation. Men and women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:16 PM
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Not much of an argument on your part, and yes teens marrying was more common in the past, the main reason it's frowned upon today is because we have prolonged childhood / offset maturity. their is nothing intrinsically wrong with a teenager having sex, assuming they are pubescent (aka sexually developed), but their is something wrong with teenagers who have been isolated from real world consequences and cant support themselves engaging in frivolous extra-marital sex that could cause unintended p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 09:54 PM
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You didn’t address this point at all. Try again. Sorry, I confused you with cattermelon34 Sorry you run like a squirrel when you get called on your bullshit arguments. Same as above, I'll change the content of my above post to match. Your statement would have been much more unreasonable if it had been an extension of their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 09:47 PM
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And with that came the flip side of having to stay with your spouse through abuse, infidelity, financial ruin caused by their impulsiveness or carelessness. I discussed this with cattermelon34 in part, though since you commented in that discussion now you know what I said. That was I don’t have a choice but to stay because divorce is illegal or shunned. Well sorry I asked for a voluntary traditional arrangement in the modern day. Also Yes, I would prefer someone who took divorce seriously, if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 06:58 PM
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Fair enough. I suppose I was being too colloquial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 06:49 PM
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Most of the married women I know don’t understand the basic wife job requirements (keep the belly full and the balls empty) and the more advanced “look nice and be nice” requirements. Truly a saddening state of affairs. I’m not sure what the equivalent is for husbands, but I’m sure they exist. Being a direct, take-charge king of guy / stand up for yourself is often applauded and respected by women, almost universally so in my experience. Being a good listener, knowing how to make her feel specia…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 06:33 PM
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You seem to be missing my point, which is the popular perception of the marriage document , which happens to go along with the fact once certified the benefits which are not within said document contractually speaking kick into effect around the same time. But if your going to be nit-picky I'll just change from "document" to "arrangement" since apparently nobody got the saying I was referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 06:16 PM
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Family is important to me, as is stability. But I'm a red-blooded man, so if I can, I will. 'Can' in this instance implies within the bounds of obligations/honesty, alongside opportunity to score hot babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 06:09 PM
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1) Traditional is a relative term. Bible traditional? 1950's traditional? 1900 traditional? Yes it is relative, which is why I don't care. I'm not a time traveler. I just hate modern marriage, and respect the principles that are widely or more commonly relevant in most times and places other then the modern west. Tradition is Tried and true not perfect, it changes too. 2) how does that at all address the fact that raping your spouse used to be legal (under "traditional marriage") or how domestic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 05:49 PM
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I myself intend to marry but have side-chicks/concubines. Obviously the difficulty is finding a suitable woman who is also OK with such an arrangement, or at least persuadable to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 04:23 PM
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[Didn't work out for Germany] (https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8663/germany-migrants-rape)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 04:17 PM
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I too miss the days where I could marry multiple women Well traditional marriage in the west is usually monogamous, but I wouldn't complain :D have no legal recourse for raping my wife Yes Yes, all men historically were evil rapists. Oh wait I forgot feminism told me they still are! Also some places that are more traditional have laws against this (Zimbabwe even has some polygamy alongside this, to note your prior statement) the good old days where my wife had to stay away home while I could adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 03:35 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_certificate I was referencing the oft said "it's just a piece of paper" line some people use in regard to marriage, and correlating it's legal documentation with the legal benefits/rights that follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 03:28 PM
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Traditional Marriage is wonderful, as an Institution that exists for family (union of spouses for the sake of children). Modern Marriage is terrible , as a legal arrangement that effects property arrangements and (optionally) childcare and is terminable at an arbitrary notice. I would only want a traditional marriage with a woman who placed family over self. You know somebody who isn't boldfaced lying at the "in good times and bad times , till death do we part" section of the oath.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 01:49 PM
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Reasons existing for Intra-field differences are known about already, IDK about your hypothetical professors arrangement specifically, but two quick example's in business are that women are less likely to even ask for raises , and are more likely to prioritize family over career by self-report. That does not mean discrimination can't happen either, even addition to. It's just an argument against equal outcomes as a realistic benchmark.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 01:28 AM
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Thr system he's describing would focus on the attrition at the assistant/associate promotion. So this system is in fact about identifing locations of unequal opportinity. Your assuming the attrition rate must be because of lack of equal opportunity because their is not equal outcomes, which is ironically his entire point, that assuming that is wrong. Differences in men and women, whether social and/or biological, it does not matter, cause varying differences in employment choices which effect en…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 01:08 AM
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I mean... I watched the first 20sec of that and he immediately pulled a blantant bait and switch if you're paying attention Your going to need to be more clear than that. What in the first 20 seconds? The only thing I can think of you might say that too in the first 20 seconds is"equal opportunity", is that it? I don't know what the reality of the situation he's describing is Ignorance is not a strong position to come from when issuing strong negativity. He's either too stupid to understand what…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 12:31 AM
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For me, Life outside the common good has no value. All Selfishness is Evil. The preference for amoral subjective self-interest alongside indifference to ,and often loss, of the valid objective interests of others. The Subjective Ego is the source of virtually all harm, all suffering, everything undesirable that has ever happened. Everyone has to sacrifice, i.e the sense of loss of giving up one perceived good for another. If you want to even achieve your own life goals you often have to make sac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 11:13 PM
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I think we can count this as one of the few amicable exchanges of ideas on the internet. Thanks Your welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 10:56 PM
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I have limited time, resources, and social capital. I want lots of change in lots of things and realistically you have to prioritize. I'd rather focus on bringing back traditional gender roles and reducing so called "gynocentrism" + feminism rather then focus too much on one point (voting rights) which is not substantive on it's own, more like a "hind sight's 20/20 did not help" thing. It's like voting for a third party candidate in a national election when the party your voting for has not even…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 10:45 PM
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Yes! For example I prefer Japan's approach over Finlands, at least last year they were the most equal income out of major economies. But it's less that they stress equality so much as social solidarity/hierarchical responsibilities, and the "equality" just sort of coincides. Less legalistic, more cultural. (though it's hardly perfect) More Ideally, and on a personal level, I prefer the christian concept of "poverty of spirit" while still affirming natural inequalities, and private property right…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 10:26 PM
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My point is that equality is not a good metric, human welfare is more direct and sensible. Also yes, I dislike situations such as the Finland system. “Unjust inequality is not remedied by equality, but by just inequality.” – Nicolás Gómez Dávila
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 09:31 PM
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Never!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 09:24 PM
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Their are no benefits, but some people mistake their being benefits. For example wrongfully conflating it with something else, for example with "compassion" or "justice". They figure if things are more "equal" then poor people would be better off for example , but things are more equal in undeveloped places with much more ignorance and squalor. Whereas prosperous advanced societies have more inequality. Equality is just abstract sameness. Secondly they over-value subjectivity. For example some p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 09:06 PM
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True, but their is such a thing as "choose your battle's", I learned that the hard way in my youth. I disagree with the U.S Constitution being ratified because it created the federal government which has resulted in bankers and lawyers having undue influence and big government, just like the anti-federalists who opposed it said would happen. (Plus the Shays rebellion which prompted the document I actually agreed with) But You don't see me arguing with everyone who says nice stuff about the const…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 08:43 PM
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This is why I am anti-urbanite as well. Cities are mostly bad. "Back to the land" and ruralization / de-urbanization are good things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 08:38 PM
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Yeah, I did not like the emphasis on Game being amoral. Technically true, in the same sense "winning a debate" or "cleaning the sink" is arguably amoral (processes don't have morality intrinsically) , But that is no excuse for You as a debater or sink cleaner to be amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 07:05 PM
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I knew a janitor who had a girl "prank" him by yelling for help and claiming he raped her, causing some security to try detaining him but then she laughed and said she was kidding so he was let go. Not sure he really approached her so much as happened to be in the same area as her though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 07:01 PM
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I dislike modern society and figure women probably should not vote (esp. on the national elections) since they tend to favor left-wing or statist ideals. Pretty much most of the stuff anti-suffragettes said would happen if women were allowed to vote has occurred now. That being said I don't see much point to arguing with people on women voting since we're nowhere near that being the simple or plausible counter solution to modern problems. Almost nobody want's hear that and at this point the dama…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 06:48 PM
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The line arguably does not exist and if it does it is really thin at best. Probably true, since Purple pill is a subjective self-label whereas the red pill is a visible community with established ideology. But because of that I was interested in seeing how people came to their own conclusions on the matter. I just use Purple because I do like the black flair. Did you Typo? Did you mean "do not like" the black flair or "do like the purple" flair? Since their is a black pill option, on the flair l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 06:00 PM
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Interesting, since I consider myself anti-egalitarian. Equality IMO does not exist outside of theoretical abstracts, furthermore equality is undesirable as a goal, and the pursuit of it largely either ignorant or evil. I'm assuming you mostly mean gender egalitarianism in reference to TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 05:52 PM
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You don't want to be that guy who's only chosen because she's gotten older and wants a guy who couldn't cheat on her. To be fair, a lot of men want to sleep around with women but not commit in their younger years and have a "wife material" girl later on who is likely perceived as less "easy". It's just that feminism has masculinized women, the sexual revolution has made casual relationships permissible, and so a somewhat feminized version of the male "sowing one's wild oats" has cropped up on ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:36 AM
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They always see a relationship and the man involved for what it offers them. They rarely if ever start by thinking that it would be nice to love someone else because it is something to enjoy Firstly, People should always enter relationships for reasons, "I just love to love" might be a good ethical maxim but is has no application to relationships whatsoever. I am not going to marry someone who is hideous, boring, and poor parent material just because It's "nice to love someone". That being said …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:22 AM
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I just have to work out and eat healthy alot and avoid much contact with the sun (sunlight is a doozy on facial aging), I am naturally youthful in looks so I have that plus as well. Plenty of Aging is just the result of not keeping up on your body properly long-term. I'm trying to stay sexy forever, going for being a greyfox. From what I have heard most of the loss of libido in men and need for Viagra is simply the women stop being attractive to the men. When I get married someday I want an agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:32 PM
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It's not a % it's a minimum value. Relationship material wise girl's got to be a 6+/10 But honestly I doubt I would marry a girl unless she was at least my own attractiveness (7/10). Then again I've been told I'm a tough judge on looks so maybe these numbers don't translate well. It's more fun to do stuff with an attractive person, and marriage wise any children will be more attractive and have better lives for it. Maybe I'd care less I If was less attractive myself, but that's not the case so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:24 PM
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multiple wives is more technically Polygyny, a subset of Polygamy (multiple spouses). Also Polyamory is a sub-school of polygamy with more modern free love tones. If it was polyamorous, that would give no option for more traditional minded types who prefer polygamy to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 09:27 AM
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Varies on the man, but on average youth is associated with better looks or at least more likely to keep the looks longer. That being said many men are flexible about what they might find attractive, others are more picky. Usually men get less picky as they age themselves According to evolutionary psychology some of it might be instinctualy cued to the fact younger women tend to be more fertile. However social circumstances and individual tastes have their own place on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:12 AM
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Men age yes, but some of the traits women look for on average increase with some degree of aging (the man being more accomplished, established, experienced) whereas men usually place higher priority on looks, which correlates to some degree with age. It's only unrealistic if he expects larger age gaps without bringing more to the table in other areas to compensate (that or he ages well).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 11:53 PM
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There was this story not too long ago where a wife found out her husband of many years (they have 3 kids) was taking pictures of her sleeping and in her underwear. sounds unusual, but i should think "no harm no foul" ought to apply. There married and all. They even said she should divorce him and file charges. I completely despise people like that. No morals, No loyalty, utterly selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 11:48 PM
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Perfection and Power. Lofty over-the-top goals, but I figure aim high and if you don't get all of it you'll still get some of it. By Perfection I mean being as healthy/strong/smart/saintly/skilled as possible. By Power I mean accumulating any and all forms (financial, personal, social, political, etc.) insofar as I see the opportunity to acquire it: the ability to do what I want, when I want, and get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 10:39 PM
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I'm not saying their are no legitimate concerns, I am just saying people are using mental short-cuts with the cost of some mistreatment of innocents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 09:27 PM
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Alot of people have prejudices against age as well as male sexuality, He's a man so he must be up to no good and taking unfair advantage of women if given any opportunity so it's only ok if he is kept in check by someone of equivalent status/ability to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 09:10 PM
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Honestly it's just a specific form of prejudice against men, just look at yourself, simply because someone says they have a preference for youth your imagining people stalking around places they don't have business being at?? This type of nonsense is why a dude got removed from his airplane seat for the fault that a kid happened to have a seat next to him, because people make these baseless associations. Finds youthfulness attractive? Must stalk high schoolers. Sits next to a child? Clearly a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:52 PM
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Reminds me of one of Thomas Jefferson's letters to John adams: "First to lay it down that we do not commix for the sake of pleasure, but of the procreation of children. For the powers, the organs and desires for coition have not been given by god to man for the sake of pleasure, but for the procreation of the race...But Nature, not trusting to this moral and abstract motive, seems to have provided more securely for the perpetuation of the species by making it the effect of the oestrum implanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 11:43 PM
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I answered the first question, what sex is about, since only nature has an objective answer to that. Since it does not matter what you or I think, it's simply the result of necessity /species survival. As far as your second, I only partially answered, since I only proved nature effects what people find sexy, but not what they consciously think sex is about. In that regards in only decides what a certain subsection of people think sex is about, partially because some people find the objectivity o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 11:36 PM
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because your brain is the product of biology/genetics? which is the result of nature? things people find physically attractive and "chemistry" are based on things that relate to baby making (evolutionary psychology) even stuff like kissing or body smells have been found to relate to subconsciously determining if someone is a good genetic match. that's not to say the social side of things cant influence, but it's not the base of our attraction. Even sexual pleasure and romance technically only ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 10:57 PM
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maybe he leaves her with the kids for that side chick who has no gag reflex? a younger SAHM and a side-chick with no gag reflex? BRB need to go make more money
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 09:57 PM
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I don't think this is all that unexpected. not unexpected =/= ok (instead of him) Men tend to use "in addition to" reasoning, which is very different from "instead of" reasoning, if they are using "instead of" and looking for "better" that's bad as one can note from the previous commenters post. A man does not have to feel his woman is less or potentially discardable simply because he likes the idea of the "young blonde cheerleader" or somesuch. That being said, even for a woman basic attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 11:05 AM
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Depends on both your social circles and regions of the USA (not only state but rural vs urban), I am very familiar with some women making global statements about the goodness of marriage for women and stuff, and not in the deep south.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 07:10 PM
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Yes, but I thought we were discussing the existence of some individuals who choose to judge the framework who self-describe as red-pill, not making claims on the framework itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:56 PM
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And? You never even made a statement of fact that could be argued with. How do you argue with a vague question? what is the argument? are you saying nobody who is red pill makes judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:51 PM
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You keep on having black/white abstracted thinking. all women who have a sexual past are dysfunctional oh yes, I totally said 100% of women having more then 1 sex partner are 100% insane. (sarcasm) isn't caused by or related to sexual history Not likely caused by, unless it was a messed up relationship. related too? Of course. Some people trying to use sex as escapism to my knowledge is well-accepted in psychology, that's relation by my definition, probably part of the reason for the statistical…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:17 PM
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You seem to be trying too hard to have a 100% divorce between behavior and self-schema, when behaviors have relation and are expressions to some extent of the inner self. esp. if we are just talking statistics and on average rather then direct causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:04 PM
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Those statistics are more about who they are Like I said: but dysfunctional people have dysfunctional sexual strategies Thank you for agreeing with me. The number of sexual partners was just an external metric they used.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:01 PM
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That, and the fact that men are more naturally inclined then women for desire for multiple sex partners ( the Coolidge effect ) , the higher testosterone men have means on average higher sex drive. So it is more in the nature of a man, so people see it as more "normative" and therefore "acceptable" Both biologically (Evolutionary pressure) and environmentally (unconscious socially informed perception) men are expected to "sow their seed", that's the goal. Women are the 'gatekeepers" since they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:51 PM
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Women having high numbers of sexual partners are more likely to be unhappy in a marriage, and more likely to divorce. Effects on men not nearly so much. It's more in tune with a normal male due to higher on average sex drives to engage in such behavior, whereas it is more consistent that women with high numbers are likely to have "issues". I can't answer for the original poster on this one, but I think men with very high counts are probably not ideal husbands. My knowledge of such men by their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:39 PM
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Actually women's self-report happiness has been declining since the 70's, and marriage prospects decreasing ("where have the good men gone?"), so it's arguable how much social changes have been "good" for them in the long term. Female promiscuity is more associated with divorce and other bad indicators then men's, so as far as social utility it is worse, though men having lots of sex is at best a practical individual benefit that does not do much for social utility either. Some measure of double…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:30 PM
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Most of my experience with red pill types has involved bitterness and harsh statements towards women, so it's definitely happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:23 PM
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Their is a difference between sex drive and how many people one chooses to have sex with. A person could be sexual but just believe in "holding off till marriage". Obviously If you pick a woman just for her outward number of sex partners you could get a frigid one. Sex issues in marriage are not uncommon red pill or not, and stems from multiple factors relating to "I don't need to try anymore" on the part of women who used sex as a way to keep interest from a partner, or in the case of men not f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:15 PM
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I think it's multi-factorial, I've heard people who reported things getting worse for them after awhile of lots of sleeping around. But I do agree it is often a sign of already existing troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:09 PM
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Their's a reason women who have lots of sexual partners are more likely to to be unhappy in marriage, more likely to abuse drugs, more likely to divorce, and it's not because people who have had over 20 sex partners are co-equally adjusted and functional people (on average) as those who have had significantly less Sex itself is not bad, but dysfunctional people have dysfunctional sexual strategies. Not all sex is equal and unconditionally good. Also "zero impact on anything" ? Tell that to peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:54 PM
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However, there is one complaint that comes up that I just can't get my head around, and that's the complaint about not getting loads of casual sex with hot young skinny women. Some people feel entitled to no strings attached success, the female equivalent is the woman who offers little in return but expects a "prince charming" to swoop her up and fix all her problems. For those type of men I think the issue stems from the fact the sexual revolution opened up the opportunities to enjoy multiple w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:44 PM
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The broadness of the tone in your original statement made me think you were referring more generally then that. Apologies, I am just used to a certain subset of woman whom seem to disdain even remote and abstract polygnous tendencies in men. Also I am new to the purple pill debates and not familiar with the specifics you mention. One extreme example of what I'm more used to was a woman who was furious at her husband for the fact he admitted he sometimes found some women other then her attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:13 AM
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I have always been confused by people saying you need to "respect" everyone, since it's hard for me to imagine having deep admiration for every random stranger. I think the redefinition has to do with society being more populist (virtues of the common man) and egalitarian (everybody should be the same). Kinda like how "condescension" was supposed to be a good trait, meaning someone of higher status choosing not to be snobbishly "above" common things/commoners despite their station. However even …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:13 AM
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Of course its the men pining for that life, not the women. Historically men died much more then women, one man can impregnate multiple women, the same is not true vice versa. It was good for the survival of the community ,this is why polygny (one man multiple women) is common in ancient times, it is not just culture though, biologically the intrinsic preference for variety men are more likely to have is called the "coolidge effect" and is not uncommon in many other species, because evolution-wis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 03:37 AM
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On the mixed subject of both your original question (Casual sex vs monogamy) and the aside you and rreliable are going into (breeding strategy efficiency), I would state my own opinion, since it makes more sense in this context then just the original question itself. I oppose casual sex myself since I think it leads to negative externalities (std's, out of wedlock births, increased divorce,etc.) , thus i see it as a irresponsible mating strategy from my world view. However assuming circumstances…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:39 AM
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