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Just kick balling around, but I think attitude is one of the biggest things. It’s not that you don’t make dinner for him, you just make dinner for him as a gift, not out of responsibility. And this gift should be received with acknowledgement and gratitude. An action being considered a gift implies that a person is sacrificing something for you, providing something for you out of their own accord, not out of obligation. And in an uncommitted relationship, this should work to endear you to him as…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/06/20 08:46 PM
71

Who dates this guy?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/06/20 05:08 PM
10

Wow. This is actually a really interesting theory.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/05/20 04:19 PM
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I agree! But I don’t think the poster was trying to tear her down for her looks, just pointing out that not everyone looks like that in real life because of editing, lights, camera etc. Which is true. If I were to take a video like that with my iPhone camera, it definitely wouldn’t turn out as flawless looking as that. I doubt Emily or any model, posts to instagram without photo/video editing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/05/20 01:48 PM
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Wait can someone explain this? I don’t get it
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/05/20 06:20 PM
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It’s actually kind of ironic, because I would bet that it’s the extremity of her case that has convinced her porn isn’t a problem in and of itself. With an extreme case it’s easier to say “oh that guy was just out there”. But in fact, it’s the seemingly “innocuous” cases that have convinced me that porn is a widespread problem. From the prevalence of TikTok videos of young boys and girls talking about sex acts or unhealthy behaviors to my ex boyfriend having ED and the inability to cum from stim…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/05/20 04:51 PM
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I’m just curious, does he watch porn? I think women’s toys are more acceptable than men’s toys because sometimes toys are the only way to reach orgasm for women during sex. I am not a fan in general of sex toys or porn though in a relationship. However, if he uses porn he is 10000% being hypocritical and I would never stand for that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/05/20 11:36 PM
3

I’m basically a car that is running and unoccupied. Ready to go when someone jumps in, but not really moving by itself. I’m like constantly running it feels like.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/05/20 03:24 PM
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This post is interesting to me because it still follows the overall “blue pill” philosophy: appeal primarily to the gender that you want, and they’ll fall in love with you. This is how may of the men on PPD have come to find the “red pill”. Their reasoning is that “women don’t like men who only do things to appease them”, which is true, everyone wants a whole person as a partner. No one wants a doormat. The mere fact that you’re doing something PURELY to appeal to them, is what turns them off fr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/05/20 07:03 PM
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Yes! They really did one dirty by labeling porn positivity as sex positivity. But I’m not sure where we got that from? Where along the way did we forget that watching people have sex, isn’t the same as having sex? It pisses me off when people hide behind words or phrases. It’s because they know the reality is bad. The dude masturbates 15 hours a week and rarely has sex with his gf.... are we really gonna call that sex positive...?! Like what?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/05/20 10:17 PM
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15 hours a week is a part time job. He could have A PART TIME JOB during the time he spends masturbating. That’s insane.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/05/20 10:11 PM
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That looks like a beautiful addition to the home!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/05/20 01:22 PM
19

That is just so not true...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/05/20 11:58 AM
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Yeah I don’t think he’s attractive either lol The convo happened a long time ago and I couldn’t remember who it was exactly, so I just threw out the first name that came to mind. I totally agree with you that those are not comparable in that regard. We were focusing on the looking at other people aspect of porn, not the content exactly. But good point!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/04/20 07:41 PM
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OP is not talking about other things, she’s talking about porn. In a healthy relationship, with two healthy individuals, if something bothers one, then the two parties should have a discussion about it, and in a lot of (if not most) cases, the partner should not do it. I cannot imagine a single thing that would bother my partner, that I would not stop doing.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/04/20 02:31 PM
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I’m with you! This is a topic I feel passionate about and I feel that porn has no place in relationships. I’m similar to you in that sometimes, I do feel guilty for having my beliefs, only because society makes it seem so “normal” and “ok”. But I don’t believe that it’s ok or respectful to type “so and so’s tits” into a search bar to indulge in that material while you have a girlfriend. My friend once challenged me by saying “you think if you looked at vin diesels sexualized, naked bod, it would…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/04/20 02:15 PM
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I see your position, and I agree you need to know definitively, which comes through a conversation or words spoken in affirmation that this person wants to marry you. But even in your own approach you said 1-2 years. One year is a lot of time to waste in your 1-2 prescription. should you leave at the 1 year mark or the 2 year mark? Should you wait until it’s reached one or two years exactly? I think we’re coming from the same place: Establish that a man is marriage minded from the first few date…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/20 06:44 PM
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I agree. That’s why I said if he doesn’t know, she should walk away. I was speaking from the perspective of what he’d say to her about where his head is at. Hmm I think withholding commitment talk is good in theory, but not quite so in practice because I wouldn’t want her to feel like she wants to marry this man and then just not say anything, waiting for him to bring it up for months which he might never do. Then that’s just months wasted. Presumably, if you’re at the point where youve determin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/20 04:03 PM
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Omg what the actual?! Girls gotta date guys that pursue relationships, not nudes
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/04/20 03:09 PM
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Hmm I think a more natural move would be like this: You date a guy and ask yourself over and over, is this a person I believe would be my partner in marriage? If too much time passes and you don’t think so, then tell him you don’t see this relationship going anywhere. You wouldn’t be a bad person for that. If you think that he is someone who would make a good partner in life, tell him that and if he doesn’t know or doesn’t feel the same, be prepared to walk away. And of course during this time y…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/04/20 08:14 PM
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I agree.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/04/20 02:21 PM
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Who actually swipes on this guy? Like for real?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/04/20 01:52 PM
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Agree. Never understand why people accuse you of disliking sex If you don’t like porn. I don’t like porn because I DO like sex....
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/04/20 04:08 PM
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I’ll never understand how people are so selfish!? It’s FUN and rewarding to have mutually enjoyable sex... I just could not imagine not caring about my partner and just being an ass like that. How are so many people so content to just be assholes??
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/04/20 04:02 PM
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Men just shit on women’s looks on the internet to feel better about themselves. If she showed any interest towards him in real life, he would think she was attractive. I just had a thought though... I wonder if guys are so depressed about their looks “no one will ever find me attractive” because that’s what they think about women’s looks: hot or not. Whereas women are more subjective and one girl could think a guy was attractive while the other might not. 🤔
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/04/20 03:37 PM
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Yeah... when someone used to say something u flattering about themselves, I used to think “why would they do that??” Now I think, “thank god they’re being up front about it”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/04/20 04:19 AM
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Yeah wanting to attract men you are attracted to is different than whining when they aren’t attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:37 AM
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Haha yeah Im with you! I’ve never even looked at who liked my post. Only the number. That some guy out there is liking my stuff hoping he gets noticed is laughable.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/04/20 12:56 AM
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This is so funny because I could not tell you a single guy who has liked photos I posted on social media. I only look at the number.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/04/20 12:51 AM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:15 PM
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I don’t understand what then you are talking about. I don’t see many women complaining about dating felons and then continue to date felons. A very, very small fraction of women continue to date abject losers with extreme issues. You kind of just gave a “well no duh” argument that doesn’t even apply to many people. Plus, If you were talking about “shitheads” over men with problems you didn’t realize they had until it was too late, you should have used a different word than “unlucky”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:54 PM
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This comment is just wrong because it acts as if every guy, except for the “hot” ones, are nice, normal human beings. I mean there’s a guy on here who is depressed he’s in a relationship because he’d much rather have casual sex all the time. He says no one knows about his secret thoughts (although I can’t imagine he’s giving his all to a relationship he secretly resents). How was his gf supposed to pick that out? How many incels do we see on here and other subreddits saying AWFUL things about ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:06 PM
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I guess guys see social media WAY differently than I do. I just scroll down the page mindlessly and like photos of people if I know them. That’s my only criteria. Do I know this person? Like. Of course if I’m interested in a guy I’d like his photo, but I also like everyone else’s photos...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/04/20 04:59 PM
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The first two are very woman blaming... A guy could be in a dead bedroom situation or with a woman he’s not attracted to, and still not do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:01 PM
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I’ve never seen them talk about this in FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:29 AM
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Saw those too. Came here for an explanation of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:18 AM
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Am a woman, I definitely understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:13 AM
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This is just so wrong I wouldn’t even know where to begin to address.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:07 AM
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The amount of times men thought I was into them and I wasn’t is unbelievable.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/04/20 09:20 PM
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I guess I’m not so convinced you don’t represent a sizeable portion of the norm. The way you talk about your relationship and your relationship history, it’s clear that you’re bitter about it. I can’t imagine this kind of world view/priority goes completely undetected. Ok, I’m sorry you see life that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:30 PM
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Yes, it is definitely a real thing if we can’t give our love. I’m in the process of coming to terms with the end of my relationship and the most painful thought is just not being able to have someone to kiss on and make feel special... I wanted to give that love to my bf so badly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/04/20 05:17 PM
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Can I ask how to screen for guys like you? This is something I’m concerned about and is one of the reasons why it’s difficult to be a woman. If a guy has a high n-count, you can’t trust him, and now you’re saying that if a guy has a “low” n-count, you can’t trust him (yours isn’t low btw). I don’t have casual sex. I get into relationships and give my all to my boyfriends. I never want to be in a relationship with a guy who is secretly wishing that he was able to have casual sex while I’m valuing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:58 PM
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In my experience, no. I’ve never heard of women complain that men they are attracted to, aren’t attracted to them. They pretty much just accept it and move on. I’ve only seen my guy friends belabor this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:39 PM
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Guys have so many fricken hang ups about themselves and sex... they’re way worse than women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/04/20 01:30 PM
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Idk. I rarely post pics of my bfs on Instagram or Snapchat, cuz when I’m in a relationship, I rarely post pics on Instagram or Snapchat. I’m always way more preoccupied with my actual relationship and things we do together than I am with posting pics on social media... If a guy regularly posts to social media, I think I would expect to be featured sometimes but if he never does, I wouldn’t think too much about it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/04/20 01:19 PM
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No I totally agree! That’s fine, but he gets pissed and depressed all the time these girls aren’t interested in him. Wish he could take the same logical approach to these girls preferences and choices. This is the kind of man who gets bitter when a woman says the same thing. It’s just hypocrisy I really can’t stand. It’s ok if he does it, but not ok if they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:40 AM
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No We actually don’t talk about older guys because of the reasons I listed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:09 AM
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So I’m not sure what women you’re going after. Immature ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:37 PM
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I was never interested in guys who were full of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:08 PM
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I know lol I’m considering it.
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 09:58 PM
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Posted the following to a comment above. This. Thank you. My bf followed insta models and I didn’t realize until we were already dating. It was always something that would have been a deal breaker to me and if I wasn’t already dating him, it would have immediately discounted him for me. None of the guys I know and respect in real life follow models like that except for the horndogs. This escalated to him upvoting porn on reddit while we were together, even though were long distance and I’m alway…
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 09:23 PM
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Read my comment above.
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 09:15 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:14 PM
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I disagree that it’s normal behavior for a man. I have many, many guy friends and I only know 2 who do this. This is like 3% of the guys I know. My bf followed these accounts and none of his guy friends even did this.
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 09:13 PM
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It’s not snooping if it’s public.
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 09:10 PM
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Hmm not sure if I would advise to wait it out. This isn’t gonna change!
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 09:10 PM
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I mean I can’t really define maturity. But she can’t even go to the bar with you, or go out to a nice restaurant and have a glass of wine. She’ll talk about what she’s doing after her highschool class and the girls in her grade who are into this or that drama. She’s gonna want to bring you around her 18 year old guy friends, which she’ll be very close to. She’ll find your talk about houses and responsibilities very boring because she’s just not there. She’ll have no idea how to properly save mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:04 PM
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I wouldn’t.
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 08:58 PM
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Honestly, in my opinion. It’s not the behavior that’s the problem. If he unfollows those accounts, like he’s still that guy...
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 08:54 PM
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I lost respect for him too... It’s been a year and a half later and I honestly haven’t really gained it back. Even though I really tried. It’s just sad, cuz when I found out my bf was scrolling through naked women while I was literally next to him and he was lying to me about it, I really couldn’t even have been surprised. Like these are the types of guys who follow Instagram booty models.
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 08:53 PM
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Yeah but an 18 year old is so immature and how would you even connect with her at that life stage? That just sounds like a liability if you have greater aspirations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:52 PM
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Eh. I definitely think in men this occurs WAY more often than guys on TRP and PPD would give credit for for sure. Just because a guy is attractive doesn’t make him a jerk, he’s probably well adjusted since he’s had success in life and he’s not bitter. And it CERTAINLY doesn’t make him more likely to be a worse guy than these “nice guys” lmao. But there are definitely attractive people who are full of themselves. Normally you can pick this up pretty quickly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:46 PM
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This is true. I know a guy who complained all the time about how girls weren’t interested in him. He would ALWAYS go after the girls way above him... I suggested gently that maybe he lower his standards and he said “what?! Am I just supposed to be with a girl I’m not attracted to?!” ...I’m not sure why he thought these girls should be with a guy THEY weren’t attracted to...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:43 PM
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This. Thank you. My bf followed insta models and I didn’t realize until we were already dating. It was always something that would have been a deal breaker to me and if I wasn’t already dating him, it would have immediately discounted him for me. None of the guys I know and respect in real life follow models like that except for the horndogs. This escalated to him upvoting porn on reddit while we were together, even though were long distance and I’m always available to him. He’s since admitted h…
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 08:37 PM
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There are thousands of reasons why a physically attractive girl would have lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:29 PM
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Woah whaaat? You must be of a lower economic class.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:26 PM
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Idk what I’d be projecting. It’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:13 PM
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None of my close friends or anyone I know ever considered dating a man more than like 5 years older. I’m 23. If a guy 5 years or older pursued one of us, we all considered him creepy. It’s obvious that old men who pursue young women are creepy. If you were a young girl, you would understand this through experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:57 PM
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I completely disagree. Comparison only adds white noise. All she needs to ask herself in order to decide if she can forgive something is if she is okay with this behavior or is she not. Period. She doesn’t need to cloud her thinking with wondering whether or not she’s thankful he didn’t get someone pregnant. You said so yourself you wouldn’t be okay with this behavior. But why? He didn’t physically cheat on her, risk STDs, or get someone pregnant. So what are your reasons? Frankly your comment d…
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 05:33 PM
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I agree with others that this article was written for women, not for men. And it does just say “this is how things are” without calling men to be better or overcome their weaknesses or practice self restraint. I also disagreed a lot with his interpretation of the judge who masturbated during court (!!!!?!??). This wasn’t a guy who was just being a typical man. I mean that’s still perverse and behavior that NO GUY I KNOW WOULD EVER CONDONE OR THINK WAS NORMAL. Like men ARE more likely to be sexua…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/04/20 05:02 PM
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Yeah sure I guess if you view cheating more through a practical lens. But saying “well technically it coouullldd be worse because of this this and this” I think serves to just add more confusion. Developing an intimate connection with someone online when you have vowed to remain faithful with your spouse is cheating and wrong regardless of whether or not someone catches an STD or gets pregnant. What if a spouse physically cheats but gets tested before hand and uses protection every time? What if…
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 04:05 PM
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Me neither! But it hurts my head when people try to reason through it!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:17 PM
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I think you were cheated on. Just because it’s online doesn’t make it better than “in person” cheating. I’m hesitant to call porn viewing cheating, but I do believe it’s unfaithful behavior just as going out to a bar to intentionally flirt with strange men is unfaithful behavior. I do think this is cheating though. Once you interact personally with someone else in an intimate way. It’s cheating. I know you say he’s the love of your life, but I think just in the fact alone that he knows how you f…
/r/RedPillWomen20/04/20 02:56 PM
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You love pickmeishas in the same way I love beta simps. In theory, not in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:18 AM
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Ahh unfortunately my bfs porn addiction brought me here after I began searching things like “why do guys follow Instagram models?” Eventually, the desire to escape and distract myself from my own relationship problems and then the addiction that came with pouring my bitterness back here makes me stay It makes me both laugh and feel sad. I really need to stop. Reddit has brought me a lot of different perspectives that I’m really grateful for, but also too, sometimes I don’t need everyone’s opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:17 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:46 PM
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Pickmes = beta simps Men who want pickmes = women who want beta simps
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:22 PM
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I think it’s pretty basic. But no, I just don’t expect him to complain about onlyfans thots.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:00 PM
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I’m sorry, do onlyfans girls walk up to men on the street and try to convince them to make an onlyfans account even when it’s clear at first that they are hesitant? Idk about you but onlyfans doesn’t just jump out at me like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:56 PM
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I don’t really agree because when I give my demand to Nike, I’m giving it to their shoe. If they change practices, I wouldn’t know. With my demand I’m not fully endorsing child labor or sweat shops, hell I might not even KNOW. When a man gives his demand to onlyfans thots, his demand is directly endorsing sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:53 PM
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Yeah. Most of these guys are psychopathic. They talk about pair bonding but they have zero ability as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:22 PM
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You’re just so wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:39 PM
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...why? I don’t get your sentiment exactly. Men are the ones who want to see that content. That’s why the girls are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:08 PM
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Sex work is bad because it creates a place for women to be objectified, creates unrealistic standards, makes women feel bad, etc. The men who kidnap children and sell them into this avenue are indeed complicit in this. Porn producers who manipulate women are indeed complicit in this. Women who freely choose to go into sex work, are indeed complicit in this. Consumers of this “product” do indeed play a role in perpetuating the supply Onlyfans absolutely have men providing the demand, so they do p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:06 PM
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Yep. Demand drives the market... duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:01 PM
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Yeah... it’s very important to me to teach my children this stuff. I’m especially worried about teaching a boy but this is my first priority as a parent. Edit: I don’t have children, but when I do.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/20 02:40 AM
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No I’m talking about like women friends. Like people he actually knows.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/20 02:38 AM
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I mean if he likes the photos of real girls that he knows in real life I have absolutely no problem with it. But if they’re thots then yeah... no. I don’t know a single guy I respect who does that. Like seriously. I think that tells you something.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/04/20 02:12 AM
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Hmm I agree with your sentiment but I kind of want to push back on women viewing themselves as objects. We need to talk more about what female sexuality is because it is not male sexuality. Female sexuality is. Based. On. Being. Desired. Women post sexy photos on the internet not because they think they are objects, but because it fulfills a sexual imperative. They feel sexy. This gets out of hand really quickly, OBVIOUSLY. Like any hedonistic behavior. But would we say that a man who frequently…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:54 AM
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My boyfriend once while we were hanging in out in bed being cute one afternoon, said that he liked the way I was laying because of the “thigh gap”. Turns out he had upvoted a porn photo of a girl from a “thigh gap” reddit account earlier that day. Behind my back. So yeah, porn compliments big red flag.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/04/20 11:30 PM
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I would feel very unvalued if my bf could care less whether I did sex work or not??? I WANT my bf to care, wth? I wouldn’t support him doing anything immoral at all and I would hate if he supported me in doing something immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:55 PM
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I think many people can’t tell when it’s going to lead into an addiction or dependency, so it makes the point kind of moot. If it’s not an addiction, you can stop doing it cold turkey tomorrow. And you said you don’t think any slim, young woman would care about porn, but it’s not true. Slim, young women run into guys with porn addictions all the time, so they still do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:52 PM
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There are many, many facets to the porn issue. I’ll only get into a couple here. First, porn doesn’t just pacify unattractive dead ends. My last boyfriend had ED and death grip at 22. Had struggled with it in past hookups as well. My current boyfriend admitted the other day he has a porn addiction that began when he was single. Many women I know don’t even THINK about porn until it begins to affect their relationship. I mean why would you? So by that simple fact, porn is a problem when it’s noti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:32 PM
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This is not true, I’m a slim, attractive, young woman and my last boyfriend had ED and death grip at 22, had this with previous hookups as well. My current boyfriend admitted the other day that he has an addiction to porn that began when he was single. These issues carry into relationships regardless of who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:19 PM
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Thanks for your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:40 AM
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I’m not really sure what’s so difficult about knowing which restaurant to go to, doing the dishes, being social, and ambitious... I do all of those things on my own and so does my boyfriend!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:11 AM
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It’s more likely that the husband stopped chasing after the woman and acting in an attractive manner. He started to let her make all the decisions, do all the housework, have all the opinions etc. But really, it depends on the woman. I for one, would never worry about losing attraction to my partner because I don’t WANT to lose attraction for my partner. I’d tell him what was going on that made us lose that spark, I’d try to jump start that spark myself. I don’t WANT to ever lose attraction to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:49 PM
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Omg dead 😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/04/20 02:53 AM
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Wrong! You should respect your partner in a loving relationship and fulfill their requests to the best of your ability. If my boyfriend asked me to clean my dishes, I would do it at my next available opportunity. It’s just respect... it’s not hard, for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:27 PM
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Between two people who respect and care for each other, their wishes and requests should be a priority. If my bf asked me to clean my dishes, I would do it at my next available opportunity. It’s basic respect. I wouldn’t just laze around and ignore his requests repeatedly. My boyfriends requests are a big priority to me. This is why you people are unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:25 PM
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If someone asks you to do something, you should do it within a reasonable time frame. The ask is an implied priority. If my roommates say “hey can you do your dishes?” I’m going to do them at my next opportunity because obviously they want them done. Like would I seriously not do them for days on end and complain that they are “nagging” me when they have to keep reminding me? You’re thinking way too much into this. It’s really just as simple as asking someone to do something and then they don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:24 PM
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I actually don’t have a problem at all with “nagging” in my relationship. My standards for living are actually lower than my boyfriends, so if anything, he would be the one to nag me 😂 I’ve just heard a lot of stories of wives who struggle with this stuff and I can understand how it would be frustrating to have to take on a lot of the cleaning and cooking responsibilities, and then when someone says they’ll do something, they don’t. I don’t need to experience things personally in my own relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:33 PM
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That’s a lot of words to describe nagging. When most men complain about being “nagged” it’s when their wife has to repeatedly remind them to do something because they keep forgetting or putting it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:01 PM
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No. I wouldn’t describe what your gf did as “nagging”. Nagging is when you say “can you pick up your socks off the floor?” and the other person says “yeah I’ll do it” and then doesn’t do it for hours or days and so they need to be reminded again. Saying “hey can you pick up your dirty socks from the front door?” And the other person saying “hey actually this is how I like to keep my socks, I’m perfectly fine with moving them at the end of the day” and then the other person whining about it is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:57 PM
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I don’t really think adult men need to be treated like children, and most of the time when men complain about being nagged, they still haven’t actually done the thing they said they were gonna do. It’s not unreasonable to expect someone will pick up their clothes off the floor within a day of being asked. To sit down with an adult and say, “honey will you pick up your clothes off the floor in the bedroom? How does within two hours sound? By end of day is more reasonable? When do you think is a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:22 PM
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Nagging is not a type of controlling behavior. Nagging occurs when someone said they’d do something and then they don’t over long periods of time. You and your gf just had toxic communication habits and obviously no respect for the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:18 PM
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He’s probably gonna call you “sweetie” cuz he thinks that works for some reason 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:16 PM
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You’ve got the definition of nagging all wrong. Nagging is when you ask someone to do something, they say they will, but then they don’t, so you have to remind them that they said they’d do something. This drags on for hours or days. Making someone nag you constantly for something you’re responsible for or you said you’d do is psychological abuse. And yeah I would never continue a relationship with a man who was lazy enough to not follow through on his responsibilities or didn’t follow through o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:40 PM
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Nagging is repeatedly asking someone to do the same thing over a long period of time. Nagging is not “demanding someone does it that minute”. That’s demanding, not nagging. Nagging happens when you say you’ll do something, but don’t do it for hours or days and someone is constantly reminding you that you said you’d do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:33 PM
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Clearly you’ve never lived with a man where you were doing all of the work. If you want to do something, you’ll do it. But what if you’re constantly cleaning up after two people?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:31 PM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:30 PM
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...yeah. Cuz things that need to get done, then don’t get done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:27 PM
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I never understood this either, and in my opinion, nagging shouldn’t be considered the issue. The way people talk about nagging it’s as if the person WANTS to nag, when in reality being the nagging one is just as draining and not fun as being nagged.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:13 PM
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Amen
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/20 05:19 PM
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You know nothing about the way humans work. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:17 PM
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Yeah I totally agree with you that it goes both ways. Which is why your comment never made sense. Men get into relationships all the time and despair that their wife let themselves go. No one would say that they just didn’t choose well enough. Point it, no one can predict the future. Only so much your choosing can do. Your comment acted like women who end up with bad men just choose wrong all the time when that isnt nearly the case. Same thing for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:16 PM
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I used to feel kind of guilty when guys paid for me too. But then my current boyfriend paid for me when he took me out on a really nice date and ...you know I felt like I deserved it. You deserve to be treated! It’s not a statement on whether or not you CAN pay. It’s a gift. Do you feel less independent when someone gives you a gift? No! When HVM pay, they are treating you. They are showing their affection and respect to you. Being a provider can be an emotional thing for a HVM. You don’t want t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/04/20 04:57 PM
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People get lazy when they get comfortable. Aka skimping on chores or gaining weight. Stop trying to make this all the woman’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:48 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:47 PM
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...no. They look scarily skinny and I honestly don’t think most men are attracted to that... They have flat asses and small boobs... I mean I honestly can’t believe you’re using that link as an example... they look pretty unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:44 PM
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I’m 120 5’2” and I’m fit and in excellent shape without being overly muscular, you can even see my abs. She’s got 3 more inches than me. She’s not 20 lbs overweight lmao. You have no idea about women’s weights do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:47 PM
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Yes yes thank you!! I saw a girl on reddit be like “fairytale movies kind of give girls a false impression of reality too” And I’m like... girls fantasize about a man who loves them enough to care for them, protect them, and keep the romance alive Guys fantasize about a woman who will let him slap her and violate her... I’m sorry but the only reason romance novels are “unrealistic” is because men suck...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/04/20 05:33 PM
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Love the comment
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy14/04/20 05:10 PM
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Yeah, I know. But that’s part of what makes it kind of depressing. If it were me, maybe there’s something I could do about it you know? But it’s not, so I can’t. This is what makes me bitter. I did everything these men on this sub tell you to do: pick nice guys, don’t focus on looks, etc. doesn’t work. These guys on these subs are all wrong. Over time it just gets more frustrating to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:47 PM
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Yes, I have very strong morals. The men in my life unfortunately, do not. Just found out yesterday my bf has been lying throughout our entire relationship. Dude, look at statistics... who commits more sexual assault, who commits more crime? Who lies to women about wanting relationships? The narrative that men have morals and values is just so dumb. If you’ve ever clicked on a porn video that says “Teen Slut Fucked by Step Daddy”, tell me what your morals and values are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:49 PM
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My past self would have let things slide if I was uncomfortable or didn’t agree. My current relationship had a ton of tiny little comments similar to the ones you mentioned that made me uncomfortable in the beginning of the relationship, but I let it slide. Yesterday, my bf came out as a porn addict. No longer will I let little comments like that slide. In the beginning of a relationship, you should be on your best behavior. If you’re making someone feel uncomfortable off the bat, it could set o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:38 AM
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None :/ My ex bf was a really nice guy but he had ED cuz of a porn addiction. My current bf just admitted last night he had a porn addiction and he looks at porn while we are together sometimes. You’d be shocked if you saw my photo. They’re normal guys too. Not incels or chads. People would describe me as a really nice, sweet girl. My ex bf was 22 btw when he had ED and my current bf is 25. I’m currently bitter, not because I’ve experienced anything extremely negative per say, but in my experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:23 AM
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Nah, seriously? The number of women reporting rapes and sexual assaults wily nilly on innocent men is pretty low. Sure it happens, but not nearly as often as unplanned pregnancy, STDs, sexual violence, or other forms of violence against women. Not to mention the underlying threat of violence and vulnerability when a woman who is physically weaker, admits herself in the company of a man. If pussy was so abundant, how come there are so many sexless men whining about it? We all know they have low s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:07 PM
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I kind of agree with that too
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/20 08:07 PM
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😂😂 “herd immunity” love it
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/04/20 02:49 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:49 AM
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I really wish you hadn’t posted the link :/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/04/20 05:47 AM
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If you were dating a guy you really really liked a lot, and you won free flights, would you tell that guy “hey I won free fights! Let’s book a hotel and split the cost! The trip will be so cheap for us!!” Or would you do what this guy did? I know I would be the first.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/04/20 05:45 AM
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Amen. Needed to hear this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/04/20 05:35 AM
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I really don’t understand the whole “insecure” argument and it really grinds my gears. My anti porn stance comes from a very logical place, not one of insecurity, and I could fight these people all day on this topic!! When you commit to a relationship, you commit to one person physically, spiritually, and mentally. You commit to only seeing this person naked in a sexual context. Why should online be any different than in-person? Seeking out naked, sexual content of another person is just not com…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/04/20 05:12 AM
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Yes! I always say: why should your attention be enough for me, if my body is not enough for you? I can easily flirt with hundreds of men and not get attached emotionally. When you don’t feel like flirting with me, I’ll just go off and flirt with one of these other men!! Why would I have to be the only one who is 100% fulfilled by my relationship? I need to get attention from other men too!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/04/20 04:53 AM
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That’s a really good point.. on second read the first paragraph does make it apparent that she’s insecure :/ It’s kind of sad too how she tries to make excuses for him like “I’m on depression medication so my libido is lower and I can’t be up to the task all the time” ...as if that’s the reason he’s looking at porn :/ if she wasn’t on depression medication, he’d still be looking at porn... if her libido was as high as his, he’d still be looking at porn... It’s so sad how these people (both men a…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/04/20 04:48 AM
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Hmm I’m not sure that scenario makes sense in the real world. If hypothetical gf already know her bf likes porn to such a degree then I doubt she would start dating him in the first place. OR she tells bf shes uncomfortable with porn and he says “no too bad I’m gonna keep watching it” then she’d probably leave him... OR she tells bf she’s uncomfortable with porn, he says he’ll kick the habit, but then does it still, he’s absolutely crossing her boundaries. I’m trying to imagine a real life scena…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/04/20 04:33 AM
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Idk what females you’re with that have insatiable irrational expectations. Maybe try finding someone else? Or are you saying an irrational expectation is to cum during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:13 PM
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I am a woman and I am extremely aware of the negative effects porn has on men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:51 PM
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No I don’t have things backwards lol. I just completely disagree with you. If you’re cheating because you want to leave the person and so will eventually with the new guy, then you’re just making that transition. If you’re cheating because you don’t want to lose someone (knowing that you WOULD lose them if they knew) only because you want to experience “variety” (lol) that’s extremely selfish. Cheating because you want a new partner makes way more sense than cheating just because you want to exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:41 PM
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They don’t look bad in the argument lol I’d way rather my bf cheat on me because he actually had feelings for that woman and was going to leave me because of it, than if he were just hurting me to hurt me and still keeping me around cuz he only cares about himself. At least I could respect that. Cheating is never justifiable but cheating because you genuinely want someone else is way more honest that cheating just cuz you’re a selfish piece of shit. In your scenarios the woman’s intention is way…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:24 PM
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That’s just stupid. Why would you give a shit about that stuff if your man cheats on you... To cheat on someone and say that you love them is extremely manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:22 PM
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I mean it’s one thing to find attractive people attractive. It’s another to check them out in public, spend your sexual energy fantasizing about them, choose porn over sex, etc. Not saying you do these things, but I don’t think the original comment was referring to only finding people attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:20 PM
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Yeah.. that saying in the manosphere is absolutely bs... men don’t have superior love. Even statistics back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:18 PM
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Same girl, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 06:09 PM
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Nah those aren’t the same at all. The second one is WAY longer and way more specific, sexually so. IMO, people bristle at a man presenting pickiness because men in general aren’t that picky. Their sperm is almost worthless and it’s not masculine to expect that your woman is going to provide for you (per the “demanding” tone). A woman has much, much more to lose and sacrifice in a relationship. She needs to be picky and women in general ARE picky. Eggs are worth a lot more. It’s just biology. Not…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:00 AM
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Totally agree. I wonder what things you think FDS gets wrong 🤔. That’s a very central point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:45 PM
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I see what you’re saying, but when I think of boundaries I think of a parallel concept I guess you could say? I’ve heard someone use your definition to say that violating a gfs wishes to have a pornfree relationship is not disrespecting her boundaries and I disagree with that. Boundaries to me are similar to the concept of “crossing the line”. If I say that I want a pornfree relationship, you are crossing the line with me by watching porn anyway. Its crossing the line to yell or whine because it…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy09/04/20 09:49 PM
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Honestly I’d rather give $1000 to a stranger than have sex with a guy who’s just using me...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:27 AM
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Ugh where can I find this guy :/ Can he be assertive though too? Like if something’s bothering him can he respect himself enough to stand up for himself? Cuz self respect is very attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:23 AM
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I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:38 PM
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It’s not? The original comment painted an unrealistic picture of the husband being the only who works full time and sacrifices spiritually, physically, and emotionally and the wife just sits back and takes him for granted basically and loses interest. I’m asking what the commenter thinks of the more REALISTIC situation where both the husband and wife work full time and they both sacrifice spiritually, physically, and emotionally. What happens then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:41 PM
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I said what if the wife ALSO works full time? Like how is the story different if both the husband and the wife (which is most likely) sacrifice physically, spiritually, and emotionally for each other and the family? Who gets bored and comfortable in this situation? What breaks down so that the wife ends up not being into the relationship anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:35 PM
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That’s what I’m wondering! The original comment described it as if the husband is the only one out there sacrificing his physical, spiritual, emotional well being for the family and wife and she gets “comfortable and bored”. What if she was also out there sacrificing her physical, spiritual, emotional well being for the husband and family? This scenario is way more likely considering that most women work full time jobs. The comment was just painting such a picture like poor husband puts in all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:27 PM
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What if the wife also works a full time job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:46 AM
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I’m with you. It’s not a dealbreaker for me, but I’m not attracted to balding and trying to fight it or hide it. I prefer natural and would just feel weird if a guy had some sort of fake hair system. Reason why I wouldn’t be attracted to girls with fake hair or fake boobs if I were a guy. It’s much more attractive to accept a facial feature and own it instead of trying to hide it or fight it like you’re concerned about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:27 PM
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Hot women want hot men, just like hot men want hot women. If hot women match with a hot man, that makes sense. If only unattractive people match with you, that just means you’re unattractive, not that women don’t know what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:47 AM
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I guess that’s really where we disagree then. A lot of men are choosing porn over having sex with real women. You said so yourself that you sometimes choose porn over having sex with a real woman that you are in a relationship with even. If you use your sexual energy on porn, then you deplete your sexual resources for sex (research sex drive/libido/refractory period). I’m really not going to repeat everything else I’ve already said. I’m not saying porn is preventing anyone from having sex (unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:34 AM
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I never said anything about anti sex, so I really don’t see where you pulled that from. No it doesn’t? I don’t really know what to say here. It’s pretty simple. If you choose porn over having sex, then that’s pretty sex negative. If you choose to use your sexual energy towards sex and always choose sex over porn, then yeah of course I’d say that was porn negative. I gave multiple reasons for how pornography use is sex negative. You’re deliberately choosing to be obtuse. You can continue to go ah…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:04 AM
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Ok great! Thanks for being honest! So you say you sometimes prefer masturbation even if you have access to sex. That’s not “excess sexual energy”. If it were truly excess sexual energy and you find an outlet for it because you exhausted all opportunities for sex, okay sure, fine. But you didn’t describe excess sexual energy. You described choosing masturbation/porn over having sex. If a married woman chooses to use a sex toy exclusively in place of having sex, I would call that sex negative. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:47 PM
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Your angle is certainly interesting and I never really thought about it that way. So you’d then consider an asexual identity as sex positive? I see the lens you’re looking through with that, but I meant to talk specifically about actions that lead to sex or not sex as sex negative or sex positive. I’d see asexuality as not sex negative per say, but neither sex positive nor sex negative as they take themselves out of the sexual marketplace. A goal of theirs isn’t to have sex ever so you can’t cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 02:58 PM
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And so? When they’d rather see a different woman’s body through an internet screen over having sex, I’d consider that sex negative. I think you’re making a false equivalence with the food. Eating meat often isn’t an intimate emotional, physical, and spiritual experience. Sex can’t be compared to eating. Your equivalence would work better if I was trying to argue that you’re anti sports because you watch the news over a baseball game a few times. Whether you eat meat, not eat meat, watch baseball…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 02:26 PM
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I think you should really talk to your fellow men more. I’m not sure if the guys commenting on my post are just a different breed or what, but to think that men in satisfying relationships are not continuing to watch porn is just false. A TON of men in relationships continue to watch porn even when sex is available to them. Oftentimes men DO prefer the substitute, in hearing the accounts of other men, this happens almost as often as they prefer to have sex. You may be right when you’re taking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:38 AM
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Okay, I see what you’re saying. The statements I’m referring to were made by men in the context of bemoaning. Like “ugh I hate going to work because my job is hard” not “I love my job. It’s a lot of work but worth it!” So I understand your point, but you’re missing the context of what I was quoting. I think choosing to watch porn and use a vibrator instead of having sex is sex negative. Using porn and a vibrator isn’t sex lol and you’re choosing to do that in place of having sex. How is that sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:31 AM
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I disagree with your assertion. Plenty of men choose porn OVER sex. Plenty of men still look at porn while in relationships even when sex is an option. To say that men use porn ONLY when sex isn’t an option is just wrong. Also, porn only normalizes watching sex. Are you claiming that watching porn improves your sexual prowess? Many women actually claim the opposite, that men who watch too much porn actually make for really bad sex partners. They typically are the ones who are selfish in bed and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:20 AM
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Read my response above. So what if it’s a depiction of sex? Pornography isn’t sex lol and many people use pornography in place of having sex. How is that sex positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:23 PM
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Idk why this is surprising. Pornography isn’t sex? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:51 PM
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But that’s actually not true at all! Plenty of men in relationships with satisfying sex lives (their words) look at pornography. Look around!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:50 PM
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Well, I define sex as intercourse between two people. The act of watching two people have sex, is not sex. Therefore, porn obviously is not sex. It’s true that excessive viewing of pornography actually decreases desire for sex. I mean just think about it, most people who use their sexual energy on pornography deplete their energy for sex. Oftentimes, porn is used as an escape from the pressures of having sex or pursuing sex. And, a lot of people consider porn use as a substitute for sex, somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:47 PM
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With the rampant, unabashed use of pornography, I’d definitely have to say men. Just because women are pickier in sex does not mean they are sex-negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:42 PM
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I don’t think women don’t understand that, but there’s definitely a thing such as coercion and an implicit, biological fear of violence. But to your other points ....no. Attraction doesn’t equal sex first of all. And second of all if a woman doesn’t want to have sex with a man, yet does because of outside forces you can’t say that she actually did want it. If you had a gun to your head and you had to choose killing your mom or your dad, just because you make a choice doesn’t mean you actually wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:17 PM
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Yes. That’s why when these people talk as if a woman having sex with them is a sign of interest in them, I have to say that no, actually women have sex for a lot of other reasons. This one is HUGE.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 11:10 PM
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Honestly idk if I believe that more than 50% of people have cheated at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:35 AM
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I hope not...WOW 45% of men cheat in their relationships?! That’s almost a 50/50 chance of being betrayed by someone who WILLINGLY AND FREELY chose to commit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 01:10 AM
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No. This is just so stupid. Most women DO NOT cheat on their long term relationships or marriages. You are right, these guys just attract broken women... Many, many, many guys are attracted to the “baddies” or the girls who are bitches and are “mean” to them. These are the guys who get cheated on 🙄 The average woman is more concerned about getting played or cheated on than the average man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 01:07 AM
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Ehh idk. This behavior would definitely turn me off... telling me he thinks he’s not good enough for me? Id laugh awkwardly and be like “aww nahh”, feel pity for him, and surely ghost him. How is a statement like that attractive...? Also he is really unattractive looking. If he said this to me in reality I’d be like “shit you prolly right”. Unfortunately the only women he “gamed” were low self esteem women who need our help anyway!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/20 05:51 PM
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Honestly it is so widespread for a man/bf/husband to just completely ignore the needs of his woman/gf/wife :/
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/20 05:33 PM
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Haha yeah it’s kind of laughable to think they’re gonna blame themselves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/20 05:16 PM
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Ughhh I hate the concept of “nagging”. The way people talk about “nagging”, it’s as if the person doing the “nagging” WANTS to be “nagging”. As if “nagging” only negatively effects the receiver. I would HATE to remind my bf over and over and over again to do something like clean the dishes or be productive. It wouldn’t be fun for me either to constantly remind someone of something that should have been done a week ago. The only person who can prevent “nagging” is the one being “nagged” 🙄🙄
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy01/04/20 05:06 PM
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Unfortunately it’s apparently really hard to find a genuinely honest man :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/20 05:00 PM
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It’s so funny to read this as a genuinely honest woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:38 PM
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Amen!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/03/20 06:00 PM
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Men rarely know the difference between aggressive and assertive :/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:57 PM
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Ughhh it is NOT fine to watch porn and have a girl :/ This pisses me off so much... To think of a boyfriend saying “you should really watch this girl in the locker room scene.. I would be rock hard” like how is that not unfaithful?! How is that an appropriate way to act in a committed relationship??
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/03/20 03:54 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:35 PM
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Yeah! If my bf wants to be with another woman he can go ahead, but it’s just a mind game when they have their cake and eat it too. I don’t want to be in a relationship where you only choose me when you want your sexuality fulfilled by me and then you choose others when you want your sexuality fulfilled by someone else. We’re in a relationship together, I’m not just someone you can pick up and put down when you decide you want to see me vs a new woman. You’ve committed to being with me only and N…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/03/20 02:51 PM
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Would you ever feel the need to tell your bf/husband you would be interested in sleeping with another man?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/03/20 11:54 PM
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I’m totally with you. This is why I take marriage very very seriously. It could easily be a hell trap. I would have a tough time getting over that too. It’s not hard to just walk around and NOT say those things? Like why do you have to just inject drama and resentment into your relationship like that? I never feel the need to do that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/03/20 11:49 PM
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I’m with you. I’m pretty anti porn and it’s so tone deaf when people say “well it’s not like he’s cheating”. I don’t want to control a person. If my bf wants to cheat on me, he can go ahead. He’s doing me no favors at that point. Im only interested in people who freely choose me. I’m not afraid of being cheated on. But I am afraid of that tiny hell of a space where he’s not cheating, but he’s not being faithful, so you doubt yourself, you feel suspicious, you are paranoid, you think you’re being…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/03/20 11:47 PM
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Well, let’s think. This woman is not okay with this. you tell her, she is upset and determines what to do in her relationship you don’t tell her, she is later shocked to find out, or never finds out This woman is okay with this. you tell her, she says “oh yeah I know, no big deal” you don’t tell her, they carry on. If the woman is okay with this behavior, telling her or not telling her doesn’t really make a difference. If she is not okay with it, then she would have wanted to break up with him o…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/03/20 07:56 PM
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He made it her business?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/03/20 07:51 PM
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I hate that this sub acts like only women go after bad men. I know PLENTY of men who go after and worship bad women. Just look at all the followers Insta thots have. Plenty of guys will tell you that they want a bossy girl who barely gives them the time of day. There was even a question on this sub a couple months ago and MOST MEN HERE said they would rather be with a 10/10 wife who only has sex with them on her terms (so like once a year) than an unattractive girl with a nice personality. Lol t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:28 PM
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...no. Plenty of honest women get burned by men and don’t sleep around... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:21 PM
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I said first you learn that old men are creepy. That’s what happens in 6th grade. And everyone’s journey is different. Not saying every girl runs into a porn addict. Just saying that it’s a slow fall where a girl tries to cling onto the image of Prince Charming she grew up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:12 PM
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Little girls grow up on Disney princes and ken dolls lol Just because you learn quickly doesn’t mean you didn’t approach life that way. Plus it’s a slow and painful process. First, you learn that old men are creepy. You think, fine, I’ll still find my Prince Charming. Then, you grow up more and meet a guy you think fits the bill, then you find out he has a porn addiction. Then, you think “well this is just one, not all men are like that” Then, you meet a guy. Truly believe the world of him. THEN…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:36 PM
1

I have NEVER had an orgasm that was like a full course meal at a Michelin star restaurant PLEASE 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:24 PM
1

Yeah, right. As if it’s not true that 99% of women start off their life as men loving, blue pilled love bugs only to get smashed by reality of what men are. 🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:08 PM
1

I don’t do casual hookups at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 02:33 PM
2

Yeah I don’t really understand it either but I definitely have a high libido when I am in a relationship (I don’t do casual sex). Maybe cuz I’m turned on cuz I want someone else... not just my hand lol idk it’s like when I try, all the feelings go away cuz I want to have sex not masturbate? Probably just the difference between guys and girls, a lot of women don’t masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:13 AM
1

Oh really? That’s interesting... That statement makes it even more frustrating for the women who have an issue with porn... I honestly don’t understand it myself but I’ve never felt the need to masturbate. I definitely get turned on for sure, but touching myself doesn’t do anything... With another person there’s desire, attraction, excitement, etc. with me it’s just my hand? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:33 AM
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I mean I’ve never masterbated and my sex drive is huge haha masturbation isn’t sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:10 AM
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No. I’m really frickin anti porn but even I understand that a guy has needs. I’m anti porn because I’m available. Always. And my bf chooses porn. I wish I didn’t care about sex so that porn was okay with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 02:52 AM
5

Say no to fence sitters
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/20 06:15 AM
1

True
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/20 12:43 AM
1

That’s what I’d think! But he seems really devoted to her...
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/20 12:42 AM
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Yeah it’s kind of confusing. I know a girl who I would describe as a “baddie”. She posts thotty insta pics, treats her bf disrespectfully sometimes, and can be really dramatic. But the bf is extremely devoted to her. It’s mind boggling cuz most of the time he trades his self esteem for her attention. He would be considered whipped. I know plenty of guys who completely devote themselves to this girl. I can’t tell if she’s HVW and he’s a HVM or if they’re both low value.. my instincts say they’re …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/03/20 12:26 AM
2

You’re on the wrong thread. We’re talking about the desire to sleep with multiple women. Not the act of sleeping with multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 11:50 PM
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Good for you! Ugh where did that man move and where can I find him? Haha That’s exactly my take on porn. Why would I spend energy watching new positions when I can TRY new positions with my bf? Lol I’ve tried looking into it to see what it was about once and like it didn’t stick, because why would it stick? I have someone to have sex with and talk sexy to!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 10:00 PM
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It’s a characteristic of maleness, not an action. Polygyny isn’t the act of sleeping around. It’s the characteristic of wanting to have sex with multiple women. Guys in relationships still feel the effects of polygyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 09:58 PM
2

Omg “smashing a floppy” 😂😂
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 08:22 PM
3

I think you saw my ex bf.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 08:21 PM
3

This thread is about polygny which is a characteristic of all men. Not just the ones who fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 08:01 PM
3

...no lol this whole chad thing is the dumbest thing ever. Are you proposing that only chad is prone to wanting to have sex with random women he sees?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 05:48 PM
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Yeah I just had a brilliant thought. What if I were to go up to him and say: “I know I said I had a problem with porn, and I’ve been thinking more about it. I woke up feeling horny this morning and I realized that there are so many hot men out there that I could look at. It just kind of clicked with me. I think I see it more now. There are so many guys out there who are so fit and tall so I’ve decided that I’m going to explore this more. Go ahead and look at reddit cuz I’m gonna do this now. But…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 04:20 PM
3

I’ve commented there before!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 03:25 PM
3

I’m extremely affected by it. I do look down on men for it. I’m very bitter about it. For the reasons you described, I think it’s worse than hypergamy. At least a woman can overcome hypergamy by finding a man she thinks is the best. But as a female, there’s no possible way you’ll ever be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 02:49 PM
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Yeah, I check up. He only uses reddit and “thankfully” (I guess...) he used to upvote photos, so I had proof. He doesn’t know I know his ways 😛
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 06:05 AM
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I would definitely call it unfaithful behavior. Yeah :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 06:04 AM
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Yes!!! This so much!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 06:02 AM
3

There are funny men that are not attractive, and there are attractive men who are not funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 05:51 AM
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Yeah... so dumb. I’m not quite on the level of seeing it as cheating, but I think it’s closer to cheating than it is to “harmless”. And it certainly does more than just make me feel sad or annoyed when I see that he had upvoted a picture of another girl on Reddit. Like I feel embarrassed and betrayed for sure. He’s since said he’ll stop though, but I feel like the damage has already been done.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/03/20 05:44 AM
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It’s way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 04:38 AM
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Why would a man “out of your league” continue to pursue you for a long period of time? That doesn’t make sense. If he can’t find anyone else who will have sex with him, clearly he’s not out of the girls league.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 04:35 AM
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Do you even know what post but clarity is? It’s the comedown to a normal state from all the heightening that occurred during sexual arousal. Post nut clarity is a return to normal state. Why would a girl be in the relationship box when you’re in a normal state, but not be anymore when you’re coming down to a normal state? That doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 04:32 AM
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I’d also like to add that men are WAY more likely to defend porn use in this way: “Sex is effort, sex takes work, you have to worry about someone else” They make it sound like a chore?? I would also like this question answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 09:20 PM
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No I don’t think a date means sex! I’ve certainly never felt obligated to have sex with anyone either. But when I go out with a strange man who I don’t know, I’m very aware that I dont know how he will react for rejection or how he might try to come on to me assuming I’m on the same page as him. It’s not a conscious feeling, it’s innate. I have no control over it. So I am naturally conscious. If I go on a date knowing I’m not interested in him in any way, then I’m even more conscious of this fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:16 PM
2

All of my boyfriends have been great guys who were attractive and committed to me before having sex. Actually in one case my ex waited a year and the other as well. The one who didn’t wait a year with me after we started dating, was actually waiting till marriage with his ex gf (but obviously they didn’t get that far). These guys are not ugly, they’re not desperate, they’re all great guys. In short, guys that I want, want me enough to wait until I’m ready. So idk, ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:26 PM
2

I like FDS and I’m religious. Where does FDS say that they want a husband who won’t stand up to them? I keep seeing people say that FDS wants spineless or “beta” men but that’s not true at all? I think they’re looking for a guy who keeps his shit together by grooming, keeping a clean home, being well put together, being polite, being respectful, being communicative, being financially savvy... They want a guy with a good moral character who treats his woman. Not cow tows to her, but treats her. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:17 PM
1

You’re right. They definitely do. They do make it pretty difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:11 PM
2

Yes, agree. I will definitely insist on paying on a date if I don’t plan on sleeping with the guy/am not interested. I don’t want him to hold it against me. If I let you pay for me, that’s a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 10:52 PM
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Oh yeah. You’re definitely right! I guess I just look at this stuff a little differently. I read “he should know in a year” as “he should know relatively soon” And yeah that’s really extreme. I def cook for my man and clean and everything. But I said above that the underlying principle is “don’t be a doormat and do everything for the man”. You have to use your judgement for sure. I guess I just don’t take the sub so literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:06 PM
2

Yeah that’s true. But by that they’re more trying to prevent being in a relationship for like 5+ years. Surely you and the guy know at that point. Yep Nah I don’t think so. It’s the same way for women, and everything else in life. You allow laziness, you’ll get laziness! Completely agree that an arbitrary number doesn’t do much. Just gotta pay attention to the principle behind it. I doubt any of those women actually put a date on the calendar for three months out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:56 PM
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See I disagree with that takeaway. I think you should really spend some time on the sub in a mindset of honestly trying to understand it better. They really say honest truths like: A man knows if he wants to spend his life with you pretty soon into a relationship Men put in effort when they truly want a woman Men get too comfortable and will take advantage of you if you provide for his every need like a doormat Men will easily use you for sex so wait a bit to make sure that he’s for real. There …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:05 PM
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FDS to land a good man, RPW to enjoy him. I follow both subs and once I find a man who is worthy of RPW treatment (via FDS) I will certainly treat him. People take different things out of FDS. I disagree that they only want money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 04:24 PM
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I don’t think you’ve actually ever been on FDS. These women clearly state they want relationships where responsibilities are equally shared. I wouldn’t call TRP “amoral”. They’re mostly empowering women to cut out men who don’t provide anything to your life. TRP as a concept is “great” sure, FDS is not trying to be a concept, but a list of principles that enable you to identify and cut out toxic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:45 AM
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Honestly idk about this one... Always be cautious for sure, but I’d rather make a mistake being honest and true to myself, than make a mistake by thinking too much and trying to live by external “rules”! Be HVW first and never worry about losing someone! Your can never be damaged as a HVW!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/01/20 08:47 PM
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Men are idiots. Seriously they would take 2? They cause their own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 06:32 PM
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I don’t respect them honestly. And I’m a woman and I would never leave my bf if “someone better comes along”. He IS the someone better to me. And what’s the difference between leaving someone for someone better and keeping them around while you have everybody else?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:49 PM
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I don’t respect them honestly. And I’m a woman and I would never leave my bf if “someone better comes along”. He IS the someone better to me. And what’s the difference between leaving someone for someone better and keeping them around while you have everybody else?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:44 PM
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I don’t respect them honestly. And I’m a woman and I would never leave my bf if “someone better comes along”. He IS the someone better to me. And what’s the difference between leaving someone for someone better and keeping them around while you have everybody else?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:44 PM
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I don’t respect them honestly. And I’m a woman and I would never leave my bf if “someone better comes along”. He IS the someone better to me. And what’s the difference between leaving someone for someone better and keeping them around while you have everybody else?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:43 PM
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A couple of points I want to add: Men like to think that they’re SOooOoOoO logical and reasonable. They don’t think with their emotions right? They think with “logic”. In their mind, it just makes logical sense right! He’s getting what he needs, she’s getting bare minimum to be content, and he asks himself: why would I break this off? (Logically speaking of course). But sometimes it’s actually logical to follow your emotions. They’re our only guiding principle in life! They forget that and then …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/01/20 04:22 PM
2

How does buying all brands make sense? Why buy a product that doesn’t work or isn’t good enough just for the sake of buying a product? Or why buy a product you’re just gonna spend money on and then discard?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:32 PM
3

Yeah. It really is just not as common as they all make it out to be. They’re just bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:32 PM
3

So really you’re saying that all men suck and if they were honest with you, you’d actually hate them. Hmmm pretty much what I’ve been saying since I was born. Men are shit. Lol so the red pill says that men are the better/most moral gender? From a man himself!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:54 AM
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I don’t at all! My last boyfriend and current boyfriend are bald/balding lol. I don’t really notice receding hairlines tbh but I know tons of women find that unattractive so I included it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:39 PM
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I agree that most women are not “strongly attracted” to their husbands/LTR partners. However, you also said that if attraction was strong in the first place the divorce rate wouldn’t be so high and I don’t necessarily agree with that. And considering the points I made above, I wouldn’t necessarily say that those LTRs are bound to fail any more than other LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:52 PM
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There’s a HUGE difference between crying in front of a woman, and being whiny or weak. HUGE.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:40 PM
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It’s more like: you have to meet a minimum in the looks department, and then after that it’s 100% personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:18 PM
4

Yes haha. Is this novel? You should pay more attention to action and how you feel as opposed to words. Perhaps a lot of women aren’t capable of perceiving attraction the way you do because of hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:11 PM
1

I mean there’s really no one-size fits all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:05 PM
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I agree with you mostly... however, even strong attraction can fade (I.e balding, excessive weight gain, smoking, etc). I think you’re underestimating the impact that unattractive behaviors has on an otherwise strongly attractive man. Aka in a marriage/LTR if your boyfriend is whiney, weak, a douche, controlling, or otherwise unattractive in behavior, it won’t be enough to make up for an attractive face to a woman and she may still develop a sexual aversion to him. I also think people vastly und…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:02 PM
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Yes. There are a lot of reasons women sleep around that don’t have to do with how attractive the guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:58 PM
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...I don’t think I even want to know what that means.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/01/20 12:14 AM
1

No, I didn’t get that at all. He said the older men get, the more valuable they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:55 PM
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No, the stronger looking guy definitely wins. And I can’t beat up any man 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 09:48 PM
1

Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 03:29 AM
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...no. Now that she’s involved he expects her to do it all lol. I’m saying that your personal experiences may have been different, but you should do more research on the experiences of the average man/woman dynamics in a relationship. Women don’t blame men for babies? I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make. Yeah, it’s pretty misguided that women are the ones asking for commitment, I agree with you there. Although, we all know the guy is perfectly content getting all the benefits with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 03:28 AM
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Yeah I have no idea why that would be relevant. Kids have nothing to do with a DATING STRATEGY. Being on reddit has definitely made me disrespect men more... a lot of them are just really really dumb. I definitely want kids! I want a whole family! I want my husband and me to bathe the kids every night and go on walks and stuff. Just trying to find the right man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/01/20 01:27 AM
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Oh nah. Old men aren’t more attractive than their younger selves. You should read up more on the experiences of open relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:13 AM
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I wish you luck in your future relationships. Not gonna explain this to everyone. Do some research. Like seriously, just google. Edit: also women fantasize when they use vibrators FFS. You’re just an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:59 AM
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Because a guy wants to “put his dick in your pussy and asshole”? I mean they wouldn’t do it if they didn’t want to right? Lol The girl probably imagines that this will make the guys think she’s “cool” or “different” or like “one of the guys”. She imagines that they find her physically attractive. All of these things are validation and wanted. I really don’t see why you’re having a lot of trouble understanding this. The fact that this is a misguided way of thinking doesn’t make the existence of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:49 PM
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I said don’t tend. And a lot of people try out different things in college. You’re completely missing the point. Absolutely nothing you’re saying contradicts my point lol Girls and guys both like sex. For different reasons. Why do you need them to be the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:43 PM
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Did you mean to say “don’t overestimate a mans desire to be with women who are emotional rollercoasters” ? Aka men DONT want to be with women who are emotional rollercoasters?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/01/20 11:19 PM
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Yeah completely agree with ya dude! But that doesn’t mean they don’t do it for those reasons. Same way a guy falls in love with a stripper. You want it to be true, so you perceive your reality different. It’s also just a temporary high. They realize it after, but in the moment they do feel desired. But most girls who are promiscuous have low self esteem and unresolved issues. Healthy and secure women don’t tend to sleep around. Just like the majority of women who work in the sex industry have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:09 PM
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Lol this is so false. A husband is more valuable the older he gets and a wife becomes less valuable? I promise you the children rely on their mother more than their father.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:02 PM
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Yeah, Women have to completely balance the attention they give to children and to their husband in order for the man to stay. Basically have to run the whole household or else all goes to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:59 PM
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Men. All things being equal and happy, if a partner is going to cheat it will be a man. Just due to the polygamous nature. This is why you guys all shit on hypergamy when the natural tendency of men is way more destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 10:57 PM
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Completely agree! Although this shouldn’t take 3 years.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/01/20 10:09 PM
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No, I wasn’t trying to make that argument at all. That’s an unrelated topic to what I was discussing. I said the sexlessness issue is not truly one of sexlessness. The sexlessness issue is largely driven by men who aren’t able to get what they want. That it’s more about status and entitlement than it is about literal sexlessness. ^<sup>and</sup> the evidence of this is that they are not going for less attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:40 PM
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sigh Just because they like having sex and boys like having sex does not mean they like having sex for the same exact reasons. They have sex with random tinder guys because they like feeling desired. They like experiencing that validation of being wanted. Your comment didn’t contradict what I said in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:32 PM
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Oh okay, so it’s not exactly the same but it is equivalent in terms of emotional impact, so in a sense it is equivalent. I agree with you on your points No, they probably aren’t totally accepting. My point with that is that if it was all about sex and intimacy, then they would be aiming lower (and you can’t deny that the odds would be better there). But they’re not, so it’s not about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:27 PM
1

Oh yeah. That’s certainly a function of that. I should have included that as well. It’s the best when a guy makes noises too!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:20 PM
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Men hardly give up freedom when they enter a relationship lol. It’s mostly the woman who is giving up her freedom. Women have to attend to her boyfriend’s needs too... and it’s actually a fact that women pick up more of the chores and logistical work when it comes to relationships. Your experience may have been different but the majority of women in relationships are doing most of the cleaning, child care, scheduling appointments, keeping track of the calendar, etc. And how often are you needing…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:16 PM
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I thought the same thing as you at first. But I think the OP is just saying that if a woman sleeps with a guy hoping that “leverage” would turn into a relationship, then it is kind of “extracting” in a sense. Relationships are freely given so thinking sex in and of itself would lead to a relationship is kind of approaching it in an “extracting” way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:09 PM
2

Good question. I also want to know the answer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:07 PM
1

This is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:56 PM
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Nah that’s not true. There are def some times I don’t want to orgasm and just want to share the emotional experience that is largely PIV. I get a lot out of PIV and sometimes it’s the only type I want. However, PIV only is more for men, yes because they’ll still cum. But most girls won’t. So if you only have PIV then yeah, the girl is definitely losing out over the long run and it’s definitely not fair or enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:54 PM
4

Yeah penis size doesn’t really matter. It’s either too small, too big, or indistinguishable from the other sizes in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:52 PM
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It’s definitely a performance, but not only to make my bf feel more aroused. I also feel more aroused by it. It just adds to the experience!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:49 PM
4

THIS IS IT. Edit: also the part of the preparatory orgasm is true. I never physically desire my boyfriend inside of me more than I do after I orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:46 PM
1

This could not be further from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:43 PM
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Male and female sexuality is almost completely opposite. But it’s complementary. This. Is. What. So. Many. Guys. Don’t. Understand. Male sexuality is active desire, woman’s sexuality is being desired. Without these opposite, yet complementary sexualities, sex between the two sexes would not occur. It’s just like male genitalia is external and female genitalia is internal: they are completely opposite, but it’s the opposing nature that makes everything fit. Just read these responses. Almost all w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:42 PM
0

It physically feels extremely good when the mental emotional stuff is there before. Aka after arousal. The thought of being with a random dick is entirely unappealing. I’m not aroused by that and all dicks basically feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:31 PM
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Yes. This. Which is why it’s not really about sexlessness / lack of intimacy at all for these men. It’s about status and entitlement. They believe they should have equal access to women they find attractive, and refuse to give attention to the women they are not attracted to. ....just like the women now who refuse to have sex with these men because they are not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:47 PM
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Is that supposed to make it better? Women don’t necessarily want sex that much, they want relationships. Why should relationship-less women be treated as having no problems, but sexless men have huge problems? Don’t we all agree that men want sex and women want relationships? So I’d think it’d naturally follow that you would be concerned about both issues. The original comment is right. If sexlessness/lack of intimacy is the real problem, then why aren’t men considering lowering their standards …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:42 PM
1

This.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:40 PM
1

You’re being very emotional. Love how you didn’t actually have anything intelligent to say. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 08:38 AM
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Men always think you’re into them. It’s just a fact. Of. Life. I’m trying to learn to ignore it and understand that it doesn’t matter what they think, only the truth matters.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/01/20 05:38 AM
5

Yes. Lolol I don’t have sexual needs really outside of a relationship so the best times of my life have actually been when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:38 AM
4

Can’t change your view, definitely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:37 AM
20

This, amen
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/01/20 04:19 AM
1

They don’t have to be synonymous. First, let’s establish that another person doesn’t have to be present in order to share your sexuality: If a man has sex with a sex robot, is he sharing his sexuality with that sex robot? So you can indeed share sexuality with an inanimate object. Next, let’s establish that a mans sexual energy is depleted when he ejaculates: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory_period_(sex) So a man depletes his sexuality when he engages with an inanimate object, also kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:59 PM
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I wasn’t comparing lol I was making the point that an exchange has to occur in order for sharing to occur. It’s impossible to share something with someone and not have them share something back with you in a production/consumption situation. You can’t say that the woman is sharing her sexuality when she posts a photo, yet the man engaging with that photo is not sharing in something sexual. That actually makes no sense. If a man is literally ejaculating to that photo, how is he not sharing his se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:31 PM
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Yes of course. Everyone starts greying and getting wrinkly, the libido lowers, energy levels get lower and the metabolism slows down... It’s called old age. To think that George Clooney is more attractive than Zac Efron is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 06:15 PM
13

Please, let’s have more of these than the posts about LVM!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/20 04:19 AM
1

Yeah, attraction is definitely “negotiated” for me. To me, there’s ugly and not ugly lol If you’re not ugly then you’re fine. It’s just in personality and in context do I have specific standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:49 AM
96

Probably just buying time
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/20 12:55 AM
44

Agree. Men are incomplete without women.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/01/20 12:42 AM
13

this
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/20 11:18 PM
5

You’re being intellectually dishonest. How do you say that viewing pornography is not sharing your sexuality? Tell me, what is a man’s sexuality? How is a woman sharing her sexuality through a photo, yet a man is not sharing his sexuality looking sexually at that same photo? Are men not sexually attracted to women, primarily in a visual sense? If a woman produces porn, a man is viewing that sexually. Just because they are not the same activity, does not make him any less complicit in the sharing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:24 PM
1

I agree with you! Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:59 PM
2

I did, but nothing changes. I clarified my position to your other comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:59 PM
4

Oh ok, I realize we’re talking about different things. Let me clarify some points. I’m not talking about nude photos or paintings. I’m talking about pornography, as in explicit sexual material created for the purpose of inducing physical arousal. Sending a pornographic photo of yourself to an specific person is wrong in a way that viewing pornography is not. This is comparable to obtaining pornographic material from a specific person. Posting porn on reddit, for example, aka anonymously, is akin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:57 PM
2

Looking at nude models online IS sharing your sexuality online. How is it not? If it is not, please describe male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:21 PM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:20 PM
1

Well we’re long distance and he looks at porn apparently when we’re together, instead of giving his attention to me. Guys don’t understand that women’s sexuality is different than men’s. A woman having a random guy find her hot, is absolutely the same to a woman as feasting his eyes on a hot girl is the same to a man. Well I certainly want my boyfriend and he looks at porn when we’re together, so I really don’t know how else to describe it. But I can tell you it feels very very similar to me try…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:19 PM
2

I’d say, let him chase you and don’t make it easy for him at all. Make him prove himself over a really long period of time consistently before you start to invest. Look at his family and how close he is to them (i.e. do his parents love and appreciate each other?) Don’t put up with a lack of effort in the relationship, and always talk about YOUR goals for marriage (in a general sense).
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/20 08:08 PM
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Honestly I’m more afraid of this than cheating. Cheating is more binary, he either is or isn’t, but how can you determine something like this?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/20 08:05 PM
1

If a guy keeps his options open with me, I’m not interested. I don’t need to be in a relationship enough to stand being an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:57 PM
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I wish more guys were like you. I’ve always been the stable, sweet, reliable girl to my boyfriends and I still end up hurt. :/ Not all men just want that. But, this is mostly my battle with porn, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:01 PM
4

How is the article describing an issue that’s different from a man being in love yet watching porn multiple times a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 06:03 PM
1

I’m the exact same way!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:55 PM
1

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:37 PM
1

I don’t understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:30 PM
2

Disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:10 PM
0

Perhaps. But she’d look back on this story as an embarrassment, not as fuel for her resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:10 PM
5

No, that is crazy. Who would “gift” their bf something like that? Have you ever been on FDS? Everything about this post screams anti-FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:55 PM
1

Like many women are saying, it’s not that I find him more attractive because of competition or whatever, but because the fact that he’s in a relationship signals that he must be a half decent guy. I’m also more likely to be friends with them and perhaps the guy would perceive my friendliness as interest, but really it’s just that I feel like I can be myself around him without worrying about him making a move. I try to be more aware of this by including the gf in my interactions with him often. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:36 PM
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Sure. Just because they eventually end up together doesn’t make her any less out of his league? All things are not equal in life. Just like the average man is stronger than the average woman, so too is the average man less attractive than the average woman. The fact that they end up together, doesn’t change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:47 PM
5

I feel your pain... I’m about to be there as well pretty soon... Just realize that your discomfort was reason enough!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/20 04:39 AM
9

^ these. Apparently my boyfriend seems addicted to porn and he never pushes for sex and was fine with waiting because he was perfectly satisfied getting his needs met there.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/01/20 03:45 AM
4

The average of all available options. I don’t think you understand what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 03:39 AM
24

Yeah, men chase after women out of their league SO OFTEN. In fact, the average woman is out of the league of the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:18 AM
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She wouldn’t necessarily prefer Chad either... You wouldn’t think MY boyfriend is the hottest guy in any room but I DO. I don’t even watch porn or fantasize about any other man. I’m sure you do those things in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:56 PM
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You sound very young, and your boyfriend sounds especially young. I know it’s difficult to listen to this, but please just break up with him. The risk is not worth the reward, I promise. A lot of guys his age are trash and it most likely means bad news than good news, especially since you are already feeling uncomfortable. I know it’s difficult, and you’ll never really know what bullet you dodged because you can’t predict the future, but this sounds like a bullet worth dodging, now. Wait until y…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/20 12:49 AM
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So I think most of us know that unfortunately, relationships are a pretty bad deal for a lot of women :/ This is why women should drag the dating period out for as long as possible because really that’s the only time where the woman has the advantage. Once a guy “has” you, he feels like he won and he kicks back his feet and relaxes, while you kind of just feel like you’re now beginning since you didn’t trust him until now. I don’t really think there’s a good way around this... I mean men really …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/20 12:42 AM
1

The average man is less attractive than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:31 AM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:55 PM
3

Uh yeah... she literally just said that. I think you have a problem with reading comprehension dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:59 PM
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I just really hope I never run into someone like you. This is why girls shouldn’t settle for relationships with guys they’re not attracted to. So they can avoid this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:37 PM
1

Doesn’t matter if very few women are virgins. It’s an example to disprove your hypothesis. It just makes sense that the more attractive you are, the more likely you are to experience casual sex, but that’s still not really about how attractive you are. Plenty of unattractive men have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 03:52 AM
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Yeah I am! It’s known that the majority of people who sleep around have low self esteem/unresolved issues. So their casual sex behavior is largely driven by that than it is that the dude is just sooOoOooOo attractive. Sure, there’s a floor for casual sex, meaning that you’re gonna have an impossible time if you’re unattractive, but once you reach a certain “looks” threshold so to speak, you’re likely not some gods gift to women that they just can’t control themselves around you, if you happen to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 03:23 AM
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I honestly thought that “He’s just not that into you” was a good movie to watch for HVW!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/01/20 02:38 AM
1

I mean your gf probably did nothing wrong, yet your entire relationship is a complete sham. How are you any better than the women who settle for men they’re not attracted to later in life because they’re “safe”? No, you look at the world around you, grow up a little, and understand that you have major insecurities that somehow cause you to think that a woman’s shallow judgement on your attractiveness somehow defines your worth. Like for real, the people who sleep around all the time are emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 02:02 AM
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Please dump your “gf” Edit: also, do you have any tells? Cuz how the fuck do I avoid a guy like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:55 AM
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This is so so tragic... I can’t believe that men see commitment and a loving relationship as second to casual sex with randoms... Your “gf” should feel just as bad as you felt for not getting casual sex. This is honestly just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:55 AM
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Having casual sex for a female is very rarely about how attractive the guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 01:51 AM
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Yeah there are, sure. But they’re not staying in those relationships out of pity in the same way the OP was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:55 PM
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Yeah this sounds a little over the top. I don’t see many guys suffering on a day to day basis. Having a sex drive is not an excuse to be a dick. Women would NEVER have sex just to “reduce suffering”. Ugh honestly that was disgusting. What a way to make women dislike sex than to make them feel forced to do it. If men understood how deep a desire women have to be in a committed relationship, would men commit more out of pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:43 PM
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Hmm I think there’s a flaw in your thinking there. If you loved someone at one point so much that you pledged to spend the rest of your life with them, you don’t just wake up one day randomly having no feelings for them anymore. Whatever mix of personality traits, values, etc about that person (or about you) is what makes someone lose feelings for another. Idk about you, but I haven’t been at the point yet where I saw enough in someone to pledge the rest of my life to them, hence why the relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:25 PM
1

What’s naive? What does being a late bloomer 24 year old who’s only dated 2 people have anything to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:34 PM
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Well in gambling I have no control over the odds of the game. I’m not surprised at all that 25% of men didn’t put much thought and time into choosing the right partner/asking the right questions/prioritizing the right attributes. Now if everyone was unhappy, then sure, I doubt that everyone made the wrong decisions. But 25% sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:44 PM
0

This is likely the real cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:27 PM
5

Why does it say that marriage is a bad idea for men if 75% of them are happy in their marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 07:26 PM
5

No. When relationships end for me, the last few months were usually pretty painful/unsatisfying. I always feel like I don’t want to date for at least like 4-6 months. Relationships that don’t work out for me are normally exhausting and disappointing, hence why it ended. I’m never in a mood to get in another one soon after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 06:40 PM
2

Not quite sure how you’re trying to draw a parallel between a romantic relationship and a familial relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 02:42 PM
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Hm not quite sure if any of us would find those 1/3 of guys desireable for a variety of reasons, so that alone doesn’t really prove much.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/20 02:40 PM
1

Preach!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 04:14 AM
2

Women don’t nearly to the same degree, you’re just making a dishonest argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 04:09 AM
2

Same girl, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 04:07 AM
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Obviously the OP knows male nature implicitly. Just knowing something doesn’t make you more inclined to accept it. She’s said it before that she doesn’t want a man who just chooses her because he has morals and impulse control. She wants him to naturally want only her because she naturally wants only him. Is that so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 04:04 AM
4

Actually, a TON of women feel this way. Me included.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 03:51 AM
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Lolololololol “Men are ‘kind’ and ‘honorable’” It’s a fact that men are less kind and honorable than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 03:45 AM
1

The only men who are successful at work are charismatic and well styled and attractive... Where the heck do you live and work?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 03:38 AM
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I’m with you. I hate men too. They suck and are actually much weaker than women. I’d say to just stay away from TRP and focus on men that have proved themselves to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 03:28 AM
3

Your female friend who pursue men in real life are really losers. No woman needs to pursue a man, c’mon. “Hang out” is such a low value phrase. I have plenty of people to “hang out” with that I already know are fun to hang out with, why would I entertain your ugly ass? My boyfriend and the other boyfriends before him never used the phrase “hang out” lol. Men are not more valuable. So what if they built things? Women are graduating now more than men are. What do you have to say to that? If a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 03:24 AM
2

Not to mention that shame is often natural!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/01/20 03:16 AM
3

That’s EXACTLY why and shame is not nearly always a bad concept.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/20 08:30 PM
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A lot of times though the man doesn’t even provide that. It’s just not easy to leave a relationship if you have low confidence and low self esteem
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/20 08:25 PM
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They also fail to understand that just because a woman is in a relationship with a toxic man, doesn’t mean that she enjoys it. Many many women are in relationships that are completely miserable. Women stay with toxic men more so out of low self esteem and respect than a genuine desire for that man.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/20 04:50 PM
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Yeah I never understood why women would blame “the other woman” for her husband/bfs affair... The MAN cheated on YOU. That’s all you need to concern yourself with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/01/20 04:44 PM
2

That’s just so not true. Have you ever heard of delayed gratification? Things are just better if you wait and it means more. I only enjoy sex in a committed relationship because I feel comfortable enough to kiss, initiate, sext, and just be myself. With a stranger I don’t have to worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:57 AM
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Yeah exactly. Men just have that mindset because they get rejected so often that they’re desperate to stay and have no self respect like women do. If my boyfriend gave me his boundary I would have only two reactions: • “that’s fine, it’s not a problem to me baby” • “I’m sorry, that’s just not going to work for me” Like do strip clubs really mean that much to him that he can’t just not go? It’s not like men don’t get that strip clubs are demeaning and exploitative. They know this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 11:10 PM
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I agree! Too many people act as if boundaries are some imposed slavery! The door to leave me is always open. You are ALWAYS free to leave if you don’t want to respect me. You’re right, so many women forget that a woman’s happiness and comfort is just as important as his.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 10:57 PM
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Yeah... it’s so stupid. I could never lie to my boyfriend straight to his face like that. knowing that he had a problem with it... I would just feel o completely shitty the entire time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 10:54 PM
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Oh don’t worry I know they are very different. Men certainly don’t struggle with casual sex as much as women do that’s 100% sure. But I mean just like men love porn, yet it damages them, men love casual sex and it damages them too. However, unlike women as a collective, they’ve never really examined themselves as a group to see how. See a man is also very unhappy without a meaningful relationship in his life and HVW don’t want a guy who has slept with so many people. The man’s casual sex behavio…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 10:38 PM
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I just don’t have the time or the energy to be stuck in a grey situation where I’m always saying “....on the other hand...” Plus, when it comes to men you MUST be black and white or else they will treat you “grey-ly”.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 10:24 PM
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People are getting intense over this subject because we’re talking about dating and relationships which are HUGE contributing factors to people’s happiness. A lot of women fail to realize that the Sexual Market Place follows the principles of economics. Likewise, Male and female patterns of behavior have an impact on the SMP. Women who enjoy casual sex are changing the marketplace. It’s fine to be able to experience sex in a casual manner, but the widespread practice effects everyone. You have i…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 10:11 PM
10

I agree. I’ve always had pretty black and white thinking and it’s saved me WAY more times than it hurt.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 08:32 PM
0

Sadly, this is probably right. It’s NOT a weakness to be giving something in a sexual encounter. It’s not weakness to value the things you have to offer aside from sex. Men should have the same perspective. They also are giving themselves to someone who doesn’t deserve them if all the woman sees in them is sex. Men treat their bodies and themselves so callously as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/01/20 08:26 PM
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I’m the same way. Definitely risk aversion. Also for the same reason that some men prefer “cute” women over “hot”. I want a man who I feel is on my level. One I can feel comfortable around, a guy who is approachable and touchable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 03:47 PM
1

There’s absolutely no evidence to show those women are divorcing because they found a better mate. In fact, most of those women never remarry. And actually, porn addiction has been cited in a lot of those cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:34 AM
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I mean yeah it’s generally accepted across the board that you’re “allowed” to break up with your SO when you want to. So if you find someone you like better how is that not okay? The Coolidge effect is more shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:26 AM
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Didnt say that. I said “then what” as in what is the next possible consequence on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:18 AM
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Oh yeah okay. You’re not the only guy. Sometime in the history of the world it has happened. You’re right. The point is, it’s not a trend to warrant the attention it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 08:48 PM
1

You
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 08:47 PM
1

She doesn’t have to be taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 08:47 PM
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Agreed. The dude already knew to lie to the girl and trick her into a relationship. This is just so fucked up. I hope it’s not real.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/20 08:23 PM
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How the hell can they justify their behavior?!? Literally they are all SO WRONG. Yeah obviously the dude (and all of them) have no morals whatsoever. And wth to the last comment? If that were even true it would be 100x more moral than they are!! Why is that even a justification for cheating?? This ruined my day :(
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/20 08:19 PM
2

A man who is thirsting after other women whilst in a relationship with one is disloyal. Sure, perhaps they get married more often because they don’t want to be alone. Doesn’t mean that they divorced because they found someone better they wanted to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:44 PM
1

Yeah and in a friendzoning situation, the woman wants more than just money or whatever else you think she’s getting out of it that makes the friend zone so horrible. She wants friendship too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:40 PM
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Yeah, this whole TRP thing is just BS. When I first saw these groups I had more sympathy for men and their dating problems. But over time, it’s just become more apparent that they really are just a bunch of unattractive men whining on the internet because they’re unattractive. Any man who doesn’t live in the Sahara desert will tell you that women definitely have it worse out there. It’s just all so not true. They’ll say their love is unconditional and based on who the woman is not what she can p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:36 PM
2

Why do speak as if branch swinging is worse than cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:17 PM
0

“No, because men prefer plate spinning to streaks of hookups”. ^ this is just fuckzoning. How is this a different concept than friendzoning? Yet men gripe about that as well? TRP is just a bunch of unattractive men whining about not being able to take advantage of women like “chads” do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:15 PM
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How are they unrelated? Isn’t faithfulness an important quality to possess as a partner in a relationship? Isn’t that what men gripe about hypergamy over? What threat is hypergamy in a relationship that polygamy is not? And don’t talk about divorce because the majority of divorced women aren’t divorcing because of their hypergamy. In fact, most divorce and then never remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:12 PM
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Yes, the study showed that the effect was not the same for females. The Coolidge effect may exist in females, to a small degree. But so too does hypergamy exist in males to a small degree. It’s not that one is present vs. not present than the other, but what is more dominant and motivating for the gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:08 PM
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Women in marriages don’t exercise their hypergamy either. Without even acting on it, the Coolidge effect has negative consequences, as does hypergamy. It’s the desire and thought pattern that can be just as big of a problem as the action.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:55 PM
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The Coolidge effect is worse and way more widespread than hypergamy. It contributes to the STD problem, porn addiction, relationship dissatisfaction, single motherhood... feel free to add to the list. Oh and cheating. Plus, it’s not easy to get around. It’s impossible to become a new woman in the literal sense. What repercussions does hypergamy have? Cheating, and then what? Maybe the betterment of a bf/husbands life when the woman pushes him to achieve more, get fit, etc? Feel free to add to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:47 PM
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Actually, the most HVM (to the most HVW) does not have a ton of casual sex. So, no I would not teach my son that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:40 PM
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Especially when emotions and a life built together are involved, it’s easy to see your man as the best. I mean this guy is 50 and can’t hold a meaningful relationship. That’s just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:33 PM
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I’ll never understand it either. This is how the dating landscape is so damn hard for a woman. Can’t be with a guy who sleeps around too much because he’ll likely cheat on you/doesn’t share a similar view of sex. Can’t be with a guy who hasn’t slept around “a lot” because he’ll always bring the baggage of not having slept with as many people before you as he would have liked. It’s hard to understand because there is no female equivalent. If a woman never had a relationship in her life, she would…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:07 AM
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Can someone explain to me TRP theory behind a male’s superior love and devotion, using this thread as context? I don’t understand how all of you hate women for “hypergamy” when this seems like a bigger issue for all of you. How is this not just as bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:54 AM
1

Are you male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:44 AM
1

We werent talking about specifically low value. The original commenter didn’t specify that, so it was assumed he was talking about all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:44 AM
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Dude, there’s no way calling someone “short” as an insult over the internet is anywhere near the same as “manipulating and lying to women” in real life....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:36 AM
2

Plenty of male superstars are unattractive lol Particularly rappers and hip hop artists. Lil Wayne? T Pain? Eminem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:34 AM
0

Yeah, the point is men don’t really value much in women. Which is basically what the original comment said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:49 PM
1

Ok so then you misspoke earlier when you said you sacrifice those things in your 20s “only for sex in return”. We weren’t talking about marriage, people have different values regarding the institution. Comments like the ones you make above literally say that all men care about is sex and are incapable of forming true relationships (i.e exchanges that are more than one dimensional).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:18 PM
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It’s funny that TRP talks about a mans “superior” love, when he admits that almost all the time the only worth he sees in a woman is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:31 PM
5

Is that really how men see relationships? The only benefit is sex? Have you had a relationship before? Was her worth only sex to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:52 PM
1

Thank you! This is along the lines of an answer I was looking for!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:52 AM
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So? What’s the fact that there’s no point in it have to do with anything? Again, so? We’re talking about gender roles not what the other gender finds attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:59 AM
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The woman are wonderful effect is caused by the fact that women are wonderful. Statistics will tell you that women commit WAY less violent crime than men, less kidnapping, less sexual assault. This doesn’t have anything to do with their roles I agree with that, but you also can’t just be content being “pigs” in the mud either... that’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:56 AM
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Yeah, women don’t want sex robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:17 AM
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Yes that can be true too. I mean honestly I feel like women are trying to abandon their roles because no one really gives them respect, neither men nor women. If men hate this trend, they should do more to engender respect for the feminine role. How common is the trope “make me a sandwich?” How often do men take advantage of the fact that a woman is a SAHM by devaluing her contributions to the household, holding their paycheck over her head, enjoying a life of personal independence and identity,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:54 AM
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We’re talking about different senses of the word ego. I don’t mean ego to mean superficial. I mean ego as in having a sense of needing to “be a man”. Women don’t have that same drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:27 AM
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Unfortunately, men are primarily ego driven in a way that women are not. Men hate being weak, not being protectors, and being useless. They’ll never fully abandon their gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:10 AM
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You should read the comment AND the reply before you add an addition. The comment I was replying to, was suggesting that when “male thirst dies at the hands of sex robots” then women will start competing for men again, eliminating the need for sex robots. I said no because women don’t want men who use sex robots. Wow, now that we got that out of the way.... I’m not gonna explain why prostitution/sex replacement is a no go. Ugh I don’t know why I even engaged this reply because you just twist eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:46 PM
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Oh wow. Idk what anti porn advocates you’re paying attention too. This is an issue important to me and I’ve never stumbled upon that. I think we’ve now moved into an extreme subset that I didn’t know we were talking about originally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:21 PM
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Oh okay, cool. I don’t care then! That’d be nice then if men turning to sex robots would just take themselves out of the dating market entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:20 PM
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Are they against a man dating? Are they against a man being honest about the type of relationship he’s looking for and the level of exclusivity he is willing to provide? Are they against a natural male impulse to find women attractive? please describe in what ways they are against the above. Oh. You should have been more specific in your post. You just said “anti porn”. Many anti porn advocates are not advocating for extreme government influence... I think you just agreed with me? My definition …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:23 PM
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I can’t speak for all women, but a man who has slept with a prostitute is a dealbreaker for me. A man who has purchased and uses a sex robot will likewise be a deal breaker for me. A man who doesn’t desire me because he can just have a sex robot will not make me see that man as one that I would want let alone compete for. I could see this going one of three ways: Sex robots never really catch on and the guys who need to give up the dating market will just do so and no one will notice/care. Men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:16 PM
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My argument is that anti porn is not anti male because there are many other outlets for male sexual expression. If anti porn advocates were against all forms of male sexual expression, than I could see your point. But they’re not. So perhaps anti porn is just anti porn, and has nothing to do with being against men. You don’t need to organize a campaign around women flirting outside of relationship bounds because it’s already socially discouraged. We’re of differing opinions here. I don’t believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:03 PM
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Being against porn is not anti male that’s just an oversimplified statement. Porn has many negatives effects, many of them on men. The industry is also a horrible industry that shouldn’t be supported regardless of the “benefits” it provides. The last point particularly runs parallel to whether or not porn opposition is anti male and is a valid concern that supports the curtailment of the industry no matter what other arguments are made for/against it. Also, mens sexuality is not porn. Men’s sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 06:30 PM
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Ugh you’re just so wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:42 PM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 05:57 AM
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I was talking about the absolute metric of disposability. Not the relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:08 PM
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Yeah sure, I see that being the case in many relationships. But there are also relationships where the woman has a higher sex drive even than the guy, craves spontaneous sex, and is always down, yet the guy still watches porn. Cue my relationship. We’re just talking about different things I guess. At least it gives me hope to hear the guys who argue that they wouldn’t need porn in a sexually satisfying relationship. Because a sexually satisfying relationship isn’t something I’m worried about pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 07:05 PM
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I wasn’t posturing that it was the mans fault per se, I was saying that porn draws men/men are drawn to it and then it has effects on them. You’re the one saying that men turn to porn because of something lacking within the woman. No. And I’m fine with porn use in those occasions. But that isn’t nearly the majority of cases where men watch porn. Look around reddit, many men will tell you that they see porn as a separate thing entirely from a sexual relationship with a real woman. Many men will s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 05:02 PM
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No, because women rated men higher than men rated men. So perhaps it goes to show that men realize disposability within themselves more than women notice within them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 04:55 PM
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It’s always the woman’s fault isn’t it? Many people have healthy relationships and the guy still watches porn. Are you suggesting that no guys in fulfilling relationships watch porn? Also, if a man is in an unfulfilling sexual relationship such that he turns to porn because of it, doesn’t he have the responsibility to communicate with his partner and work through the issues...? Or do guys always just get a pass when there’s a rough road and they take the easy route?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:59 PM
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All your experiences are not really scientific, because I have the opposite experiences so that doesn’t really say much. And idk, how come guys can sleep with whoever and then suddenly attach meaning to it when it’s someone they care about? Also, I’m not the type of girl that sleeps around at all so I can’t speak for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:54 PM
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I see your point. But I disagree that the person wants things to be ever so perfect in order to get in the mood. Because that’s not certainly true in my case, and I bet in a lot of other woman’s cases when they struggle with this kind of thing. Especially since women who don’t want to get in the mood would probably more relieved that their husbands/bfs weren’t initiating as often and choosing porn. I agree with you that men can just get lazy with the easy access of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 06:48 AM
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Speak for yourself. A lot of people’s experiences are different than yours. I never turn my bf down for sex and am always open to it... he’s the one who never initiates that. I’ve been telling him for a very long time now that I want to sexy snap and he still doesn’t initiate that. I mean explain that. SO many men say that even in a satisfying, fulfilling relationship, they’ll still watch porn, so you don’t nearly speak for all men. Maybe a small subset. Look around on reddit. Lots of guys say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 03:48 AM
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On an instinctual level, yeah. But you’re not necessarily consciously afraid of your bf physically!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:19 AM
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Yeah definitely. He was single for multiple years before we got together and that was his way of coping. He’d never say this, but he’s a little shy about approaching girls and porn was just easier. Now, he’s just used to taking care of himself and having that be it. He gets horny, jacks off and then it’s done. Leaving me out. He said that I have nothing to do with porn and I honestly believe that. I truly believe that he just has a routine that he’s comfortable with and satisfies him, and unfort…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 01:29 AM
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Also too think that it’s really never just the porn, right? Like I said, my bf only initiates sex at night when we’re about to go to sleep and it’s all about his pleasure. The porn bothers me because I want to have fun sexy experiences like the ones he watches in porn, but he never tries to initiate that with me. He watches gifs of women showering or being seductive or dancing, but he never takes the time to enjoy my body like that. We’re long distance and I love and want sexy FaceTime, but he c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 01:15 AM
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It’s not a conscious vulnerability. It’s like an inherent part, interwoven in the experience. I can’t even describe it. Edit: don’t worry, there are many things about the male experience that I will never understand. But I feel like you can at least see the logic? I mean, I feel like it at least makes a little bit of sense... I mean you can even say that, sure you trust someone, but do you ever really know that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:54 AM
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Well it definitely depends on the person! I don’t watch porn and I experience issues with my boyfriends porn habits. The women who watch porn, probably don’t have an issue with their bf watching porn. I want to be in a relationship where we put each other first and desire each other above all else, some women are happy with a relationship where things get done and stuff gets taken care of and they live side by side. It doesn’t have to be a severe case to be a problem that has consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:52 AM
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You’ve got to realize that when a woman has sex, she lets a man LITERALLY inside her body. I feel extremely vulnerable during sex, I can’t even put a pinpoint on it, it’s just this inexplicable feeling. But just consider that a woman let’s someone way stronger than her inside of her body... with a biological intent to have a child. That just registers on an instinctual, hormonal level. You don’t have to be physically afraid of him consciously to experience that extreme level of vulnerability sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:45 AM
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Yeah it’s unfortunate the damage that occurs when a bf/husband is jacking off to naked women when there is a perfectly good one who loves him right next to him. A lot of female sexuality is centered around being desired, so the sexuality is in danger when the desire deteriorates. Men don’t get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:39 AM
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You’ve got a good point. It’s definitely getting increasingly difficult when guys approach me and just look at me differently than my bf makes time for. But I would never cheat and don’t want to, literally no temptation. But I do begin to wonder more and more if there is someone out there who would focus on me as much as I did on him. Ratchet people cheat. Normal people just realize a relationship isn’t working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:33 AM
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Most women don’t sleep with huge amounts of men. And you should be able to understand that when you have sex with someone you love and care about, it does take on a new meaning than with some rando. I mean that’s why guys sleep with so many people without strings and then start attaching emotion to sex when it’s someone they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:25 AM
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I obviously don’t want to do that? Where did you even get that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:19 AM
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His porn habits, lack of initiating sex outside of when the lights are off and we’re both about to go to bed, lack of focusing on my wants and desires and instead asking what I can do for him. I feel like my body is boring, and sex is just not exciting anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:07 PM
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Hey, you’re not an idiot for putting so much emotion into sex and women definitely reciprocate those exact feelings. Love languages typically refer to an expression of love. Physical touch is one of my love languages as well, but like with all love languages, you need to feel love first before you express it. That’s what Tumbleweed talking about in the above comment (I believe). And being romanced is one of the ways to feel love, before you express it! If sex is your ultimate act of love, do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:59 PM
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You’re thinking incorrectly. For a lot of women, sex is an expression of love. Meaning you need to feel love in order to give it (via sex). Feeling love comes from natural feelings of attraction/gratitude/respect or being romanced. And so yeah, when a man wants sex with you and your feeling of love isn’t there, you experience the feeling of being used. Just like a man would feel used if his wife enthusiastically took his paycheck when he isn’t experiencing the feeling of love that I mentioned ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:47 PM
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There’s something about your comment that I like, but I want to push back on it a little. Birthdays, Anniversaries, and Valentines Day are three days out of the year. A scheduled weekly date is only a date that occurs 52 times out of the year, and monthly, only 12. I think any of those numbers you just mentioned would equate to a deadbedroom, if not, at least an unsatisfying sex life The advice to “keep dating your wife” is very common, because it’s very common that men don’t follow it and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:45 PM
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I blame a couple of things: -porn -since men are primarily ego-driven, they are more likely to be insecure -men’s seeming inability to conceive nuance. I read this story on reddit once about a guy who was concerned his college roommate was making a mistake by handing out goodie bags to girls with condoms in them... his response was: “I want to stop him from making a mistake. But I get it, it’s hard to talk to girls at this age” ??? How do you go from being too nervous to talk to girls and giving…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:34 PM
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I am also a woman... haha Women choose a lot of different guys to have children with. I think you just said that all women create their own definition of alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:45 AM
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For me personally, saying “I love you” is a huge deal and it really means “I want to marry you”. I wouldn’t focus so much on whether or not he has said he loves you yet. Do you love him? It’s been this long for you as well. If you don’t love him, maybe you just see him as a “for now” bf? If you do love him, then I don’t see a problem in bringing that up as a conversation. I feel like FDS advocates for good, healthy relationships, not for being the ‘winner’ so to speak. If I were in love with a b…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/12/19 11:03 PM
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I’m not sure I understand this. Women don’t get aroused by visible muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:53 PM
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Simply, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:15 PM
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^ this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 10:15 PM
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Nah. If “alpha” means sleeping around and treating women as disposable, I mean I don’t respect that... sounds insecure to me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 03:07 AM
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I define alpha as manly and not taking good care of a family is not manly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 02:43 AM
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I said “good care” and his children come from different mothers. I include mothers as part of the family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 02:41 AM
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No, he can’t take good care of a family, and shows general lack of morality when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 01:50 AM
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Well you should know that looks don’t make HV, because both unattractive and attractive people are LV. People may have physical preferences like I’m sure you do, but that’s nothing to do with HV. I can’t speak for your experiences, but for the men I know in my life they’ve been able to find great relationships. Also that girl sounds awful, I would never ditch someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 12:22 AM
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If you exhibit high quality traits then you are People here focus way too much on height. I know plenty of guys who are your height or shorter who are very desirable! Being shorter, you are going to run into people who are not as attracted, maybe moreso than people who have any other physical trait, sure, but so? Superficial characteristics don’t make a high value person, but it is reality that you might not have as much of a general appeal. But again, so? I mean what is your goal? To find a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 11:19 PM
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Definitely not. It’s an interesting thing about human nature. If you take a job away from a man (or woman) he will gravitate towards doing nothing all day, naturally. BUT he will hate himself for it. Now if you give him a job that he has to work for and can be proud of, he will have to put in work, yes, but he will love himself more, respect himself more, and be more satisfied. People seem to forget that effort is not a bad thing. Being with someone who has higher standards pushes YOU to do bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 09:52 PM
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Why do men view sex as degrading? This is why it is so difficult to be a woman and why it is so frustrating when guys talk about how “simple” they are. They beg for you to sleep with them and then when you finally give in they feel like they’re degrading you? Well, I don’t feel like I’m being degraded while having sex with my boyfriend and I don’t feel like I’m degrading him. This is just a whole lot of messed up. Why are guys like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:34 PM
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I think the graphs only exist because women think more subjectively, and men think more objectively. If I were answering that survey question, I would certainly answer around my own age, because I’m evaluating that holistically. Now, if the survey question were “at what age are men most objectively attractive?” It would be 24 no duh. Who says a 38 is more attractive than a 24 year old? Not me... I bet if the survey question was “what would be the ideal age of your partner?” The men’s graph would…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/19 08:02 PM
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Another is that men say that they love sex, but they actually hate it: -men don’t respect women who sleep with them too soon -men don’t respect women who have a lot of sex or project a sexualized image, as human beings (see Madonna-whore complex). -men push to try acts seen in porn, but if you finally agree to them, they don’t respect you -a typical defense of male porn use is that sex is “too much effort”. “You have to think about someone else, and someones elses pleasure”. “Sex is work”. (<<so…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/19 04:32 PM
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Omg amen. My boyfriend used to follow half naked insta accounts but wouldn’t have dated me if I posted half naked pics. How is that not confusing?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/12/19 04:27 PM
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This post just made my day! We should all strive to be like this! I also do everything I can to make my bfs life easier and treat him with affection and respect so that he feels he can conquer the world! I follow FDS because I want to treat my guy right and love him and care for him and try harder for him. He’s just gotta be the right one. I wish you all the best! :)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/19 03:27 AM
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This is so true! It helps women to stop wasting their time on horrible guys!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/19 03:24 AM
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I said it’s not as rewarding for women as it is for men, not that it’s not rewarding, period. Also what I say still stands. I completely disagree. Women that agree to FWBs and to be “plates” largely have low self esteem or other issues. People do things that they hate or later regret all the time.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/19 12:51 AM
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Idk what other qualities B has but something makes me feel uneasy about this... 😬 B should have respected your relationship and he came on way too strong too fast. Could you see him moving on after getting together?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/19 12:48 AM
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Thanks! I do also think there is some truth to “hypergamy” and “polygamy” though. It makes biological sense that a woman desires the most desirable man and it makes biological sense that a man desires multiple women. However, just like I can pass by a hamburger and register that it smells good without thinking about it, and yet not want it, men and women certainly don’t have to indulge these inclinations. People are more concerned about things that are unknown to them. As a woman, I feel threate…
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/19 04:42 PM
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Yes. Casual sex is not as rewarding for women as it is for men. It’s not as physically pleasurable because women prioritize emotion in sexual relationships, and the less a guy cares about you, the less he cares to make your pleasure a priority (same is true regardless of gender). What would be the physical reward of a woman taking the risk of sleeping with a man when she’s likely to not get any physical satisfaction out of it? This is why cheating for women is largely emotional. Cheating is less…
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/19 04:32 PM
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Because the men who turn to the red pill unfortunately have been cheated on by women. Just like a lot of women who have been cheated on feel like men can’t be faithful. I also think for as much as the red pill despises women who go after “chads”, they lack complete self awareness that a lot of them go after “staceys”. It’s all kind of stupid. But both unhealthy men and women are drawn sometimes to the distant persona. I know many men in my life who are absolutely devoted to toxic women. I wish t…
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/19 05:25 AM
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I definitely disagree. I’m like you and your friends. Cheating sounds like activities that occur on another planet to me. If given the opportunity I would absolutely not cheat and that would be born out of a complete lack of desire to be with anyone else but my boyfriend.
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/19 04:01 AM
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I would either ghost or just say I’m not interested anymore. I’m on a mission to find a HVM. Ain’t got no time to waste explaining these things to these people!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/19 02:11 AM
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And what you’re providing is a wide paintbrush to a situation that is really nuanced and personal to a lot of people. You say that men turn to porn because sex is risky and too much effort. I say, men for whom sex is not risky and not too much effort are still turning to porn, so I don’t agree with you. And I’m arguing that either way, a man shouldn’t develop bad habits that negatively impact his relationship, because sometimes you have to guard yourself so that you will be whole for the person …
/r/RedPillWomen07/12/19 02:10 PM
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Idk if I agree with you that “most men would take sex over porn”. I think most men at least want sex and porn. And let’s talk about “accessibility” again because sex within the context of a healthy relationship should not be less than like twice a week. There are many women who have regular sexual with their LTR/husbands (weekly, or daily) who struggle with their husbands porn use. So I kind of call BS on it being all women’s fault. If women had sex with their husbands everyday, I can guarantee …
/r/RedPillWomen07/12/19 07:32 AM
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Hey I appreciate your response and I see what you’re saying, I really do. But I’ve been trying to get answers on this and I don’t really think we’re talking about the same thing. I am asking you to please read my response carefully, as a woman who follows the principals of RPW, so that we can talk on the same page: I understand men are frustrated that wooing a woman sometimes is hard work because people are not perfect and some women (and men) are mean. But I think you’re stereotyping too much. …
/r/RedPillWomen07/12/19 07:16 AM
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“Having sex with a woman is draining to many men”. See I think that’s a reason why porn is a huge problem. So do many men dislike sex then? If they see it as draining? I don’t see sex as draining... and I always please my partner (and enjoy doing so). I mean sucking dick and having sex isn’t exactly effortless as a woman either. How would guys as a whole react if women say that they see sex as draining and that they’re too lazy to do it? Some women DO say that and men hate it! The solution isn’t…
/r/RedPillWomen06/12/19 11:43 PM
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There’s a difference between being confident and overestimating. I think a lot of the commenters here are forgetting that. Confidence is great, amazing, and attractive to everyone. But being humble is also universally attractive too (to healthy people who want healthy relationships). You should be confident in things that you accurately estimate yourself on. Overestimating yourself in certain areas and making that known just makes you look like a fool. Which is extremely unattractive. Rare is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 11:21 PM
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I also think women are just easier to fall in love with. A man encounters a random woman, she’s probably very nice, respectful, empathetic, considerate, kind, has strong morals. Very faithful... Can’t say that for any man that’s for sure. You can’t safely assume what you’re getting into, and even then you’re making concessions and excusing behavior somewhere. Even in great relationships, a guys character is called into question at least a couple of times.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/19 05:20 PM
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Agree with the other commenters. This is part of the problem. Do you lack self control? Maybe you should limit your own exposure so that YOU’RE not the one putting a damper on the excitement of a fully nude female body by overexposing YOURSELF. Your lack of excitement is all your fault. I can eat cake everyday and I’d get bored of it. So I don’t. Maybe try exercising your capability to not think with only your dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 01:31 PM
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So you don’t like sex then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 10:55 AM
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No Never 23 Yes, porn is bad. It degrades and objectifies women, it normalizes sex acts that are dangerous and unrealistic, the industry treats the men and women within horribly, it fuels sex trafficking, men are experiencing PIED because of it, just like amazon, it has the effect of artificially raising “standards” and entitlement because you can see every sex act, every woman anytime you want, it doesn’t focus on a woman’s pleasure, it makes men lazy in bed, and getting off to a naked woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:17 AM
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I said “if a guy wants a relationship with you, he will naturally want to wait too” in my original comment. I didn’t say it in your exact words but I meant that statement literally: “if a guy wants a relationship with you” I implied “specifically”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 03:35 AM
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I said “a guy won’t want to get sexual right away” and you said “this is simply false”. I meant “right away” in a literal sense. And ok, I’ll admit I haven’t had that experience. I’ve only interacted with guys i guess who are “confident and in the stage of their lives where they are specifically looking for a relationship”. Those are the guys I attract, and the guys I want because that is also where I’m at. Honestly, that is what I thought we were talking about... if a man is specifically lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 02:34 AM
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There’s a difference between wanting to have sex with someone as in “that person is attractive to me and they are someone I would like to have sex with” and wanting to have sex with someone as in “I want to have sex right now, right this minute or tonight”. Obviously I would never date a guy I couldn’t see myself being attracted to enough to want to have sex with, doesn’t mean I want to have sex RIGHT NOW. You completely missed the point. I can’t say it any clearer than “he won’t want to get sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:59 AM
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It’s not “game playing”. I’ve never even had casual sex but even from this point of view I can tell that that’s not a good way to actually develop a relationship with someone (Which is why i haven’t participated). In my experience too, if a guy wants a relationship with you, he naturally won’t want to get sexual right away either. It’s just instincts. It makes sense. Edit: I would never blame a guy who realized that causal sex is a dead end to a relationship... because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:05 AM
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I tend to agree with you. I also think that men are watching a lot of porn where the women are very attractive and in -shape and the men are just.... eh. Literally watching the two of them together, the men are really startlingly unattractive in contrast. Also not to mention that the man is hardly ever shown and “nobody” (aka male viewers) want to see him. I feel like it makes them put women on a pedestal (while also objectifying them) and contributes to lower self esteem. When in reality, sex f…
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/19 02:19 AM
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I definitely agree with that. And it could very well be a generational thing. I am young (23) and guys I know have grown up with this stuff. This is the norm now. This is the norm BEFORE you get into a relationship, by about 10 years (considering the age of first pornography is 8 and you start dating at 18). You meet a guy nowadays who has been single for two years and you BET he’s been watching porn 3-4 times a week. Porn is no longer a “I do this because I’m unhappy in my relationship”. It’s n…
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/19 11:17 PM
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See I think that’s one of the issues that comes with watching porn. People have needs and if you’re in a relationship you’re both agreeing to fulfill those needs. Obviously demanding anything is bad, but women need to be romanced too... you can’t just not give your partner attention. Having an outlet to escape and avoid putting in the work that relationships require is unfair. They say women want romance, but women can’t go out and force someone to romance them. The bf/husband is really all she …
/r/RedPillWomen14/10/19 11:01 PM
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What is the difference between loving someone for who they are and loving someone for the things they do for you and how they make you feel? Don’t we perceive others through the things they do for us and the ways they make us feel? Women are attracted to and love a man for his specific brands of kindness, humility, sense of humor, generosity, etc, just the same way a man is attracted to and loves a specific woman for these things. I would consider those traits as being apart of who you are. In t…
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/19 05:07 AM
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Thanks for adding in that point. I completely understand what you’re saying about r/relationship and r/relationship_advice. I had to stop looking at those threads too because I got triggered by the men on those subs for the same reasons that you stated! Those two subs are just not hangouts for healthy men and women in general. There are many women out there that have their hypergamy under control. I don’t surround myself with those that don’t. Just as I wouldn’t surround myself with men that don…
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/19 04:19 AM
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I’ve seen this concept mentioned often in TRP spaces. What do you mean by “she is incapable of loving him the way he will love her”? From my life experiences thus far, and those of my friends [23F], the women have been even more capable of love than the men in general. I mean in healthy relationships between two healthy people, neither woman nor man cheat. However, men will report higher rates of viewing porn, fantasizing about women not their spouse, etc. I mean considering natural impulses of …
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/19 09:13 PM
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