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Here's something I came to learn, especially on reddit. If you give weight to one piece of advice or a story on here, then you have to give equal amounts of weight to another story or piece of advice that says the complete opposite. See a post about how a guy cheated on his wife? You'll find another post where a couple has been together for 30 years with no issues. See a post about Redpill values? You'll find another post that disproves all of that. Which do you believe? Well, you have no idea t…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/25 03:20 AM
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One aspect of getting into a relationship is simply not needing one. Something interesting I've found in many people is that in the pursuit of women, they grow as people, gain confidence, and have "evidence". What I mean by that is merits or goals you have achieved through your journey. This evidence then becomes a validation of its own, and thus, female attention isn't required for validation. This state of being is one that should be achieved before trying to date. Being able to be happy witho…
/r/ExRedPill10/05/25 01:33 AM
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I'm glad to have been of service.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/24 04:15 AM
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Tbh, both sides don't trust each other anymore.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/24 12:17 AM
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To my knowledge, and what I remember from the RedPill, it means that you should put yourself before others. Not like a sociopath where their thought starts and ends with you. Rather, it's more like a priority list. It starts with you, and slowly goes down in priority and others. Why someone would do this is to perhaps make sure they want to better their own life, by acting in a way that they want to be, they can get closer to the person they want to be. I think in psychology, it's similar to som…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/24 12:31 AM
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It kinda sounds like some sort of post FOMO. Basically, like, you're angry that you didn't get to experience all that. Honestly, I get it. It sucks hearing about things we never got to do when we were younger, and now feeling like we missed out. I'm not the best at helping, but I can try. It mostly seems like you have placed value on sex, and the aspects such as the love, intimacy and desire of it all. And that comes from a feeling that you cannot attain that. We place value on things we cannot …
/r/ExRedPill21/10/24 03:51 AM
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I would have assumed vetting would be done through examining their actions and other things of such. But, I suppose that also works.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 05:11 PM
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I don't mean to be rude or call you out, but is that just a thing? To, like, do background checks on who you date? I've never dated, so I'm genuinely curious.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 04:20 PM
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That's why in my own personal opinion, RedPill is only good for maybe getting your feet off the ground. After that, you'll have to navigate relationships on your own and learn what works, what doesn't, and generally how to view things. That, or it's just endless hookups.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 04:16 PM
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In my own case, it wasn't. My own theory is that redpillers and guys like that are only shown the women who do use child support money for their lifestyle instead of the kid, and so they make that the status quo for any similar situation. It's a massive generalization, which I think summarizes Redpill well, especially with using AWALT as a justification for their generalizations. And so, when they find that their RP knowledge works, it's likely more situational than anything. And if it doesn't w…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 03:47 PM
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I think that most times, identifying a Redpill man will come more so from how he acts. As someone who was part of the Redpill sphere, the general rule there is similar to Fight club, which is to never talk about Redpill openly.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 03:38 PM
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The belief is that the mother isn't actually putting that money towards the child and is instead using it for herself. Sometimes it's true, but I think most times it isn't.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 03:33 PM
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I wouldn't use Destiny as a good source. Or, as a good person. I mean, seeing what he said after Trump got shot was wild.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/24 11:03 AM
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Was part of it because of neediness? If so, that relates to my original response.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 03:47 AM
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I can't say I've been through what you've been through. But, I feel needing a relationship is unhealthy for sure. And if you are needy in a relationship, then it will end, unless you date a girl who likes to feel needed, and that's unhealthy. This is a case of trying to learn how to be happy on your own without a relationship. Making a relationship a supplement to your life is more healthy than needing one. If I may ask, how did you lose those friends? If it's too painful to recall, then I apolo…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 03:37 AM
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It can't just be a genetics, thing. There are attractive guys who get no play, you know. At the same time, there are guys who have less than stellar looks that can pull easily. It's best to ask him. If he's a friend, then I doubt he'd deny giving you any advice, right? Come on, dude. There's always a way.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 03:20 AM
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Well, he's a friend, right? Have you considered asking him how he attracts women? Maybe he can give some good insight.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 03:15 AM
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I see. So, there are a lot of factors, and different sites yield different results. And so, there is no definite answer. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:18 AM
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I mean, I organized by the newest posts, and I recognized it was mostly women. So, I don't think it's an algorithm thing. I imagine women are more willing to discuss it, as you've said. I saw another comment suggest it's just what I'm seeing and not what is. As in, I'm only seeing there are more women because women choose to speak of it more online. Though, I'm still not sure of that either. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:17 PM
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The latter. In my experience, that's what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:43 PM
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So, I'm kinda left where I started. Well, thank you for taking the time to respond, especially this early in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:00 PM
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And I think that's my problem. When there's no specific reason but rather a plethora, it feels nigh impossible to plan for it or prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:54 PM
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If I recall, it was an old Minecraft server back then that had a bunch of mini games for people to play in. I think it's down, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:53 PM
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So, it's just what I see and not what's actually happening, as in, men cheat as much, but talk about it less. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:52 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:33 AM
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Would it be alright if I DM'd you to discuss this further?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:33 AM
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I have trouble differentiating unless it's blatant. Do you have any pointers to help me differentiate?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:25 AM
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I wasn't, but the lady told me in the DM what you're saying. I don't comment on subs like such so Im fine. Even then, I don't have money to give so I'd say I'll be alright. Thank you for your concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:24 AM
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So you're saying there's more density in female infidelity stories and experiences because men's stories of infidelity aren't as interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:38 AM
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Yeah. I still don't get why so many people, especially dudes, put it on men when cheating is a choice in the end, regardless of the underlying issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:37 AM
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I've commonly heard that women cheat to leave a relationship and men cheat to save a relationship. That's the theory, at least. So, that's something. But I've never seen it happen in practice but online I have. But then again, not everything online is verifiable. In the end, I'm as lost as ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:30 AM
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That feels like an excuse. Something like that is easily communicated. Thing is, with all these differing beliefs, RedPill, Bluepill, or whatever, it's becoming increasingly complicated for me to have a definitive answer as to why women or even people cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:23 AM
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R/Cheatinglifestyle, r/Sluttyconfessions, r/Cruelcheatingstories. There are even subs solely focused on women cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:21 AM
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Would it be alright if you listed some statistics? I feel I've seen most already so you may be seeing something I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:44 PM
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Yeah, but what I see is the majority is women on these subs, and in my own experience, I seldom see the same on other subs. However, you make a point. Women in healthy relationships who don't cheat do exist, although I suppose I myself do not see them very often, so that's likely built my worldview. Thank you for responding :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:37 PM
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I'm referring to ones who cheat. I see your point. Not much I can really add other than trying to fight a point of view that's been proven through experience. I have read such statistics, but I've read others stating otherwise. Regardless, thank you for taking the time to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:20 PM
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These are my feelings and views, I'll put that out there. Taking it as fake and fiction, I feel, can result in me completely ignoring the feelings and how cheating is viewed and remain in my own point of view. Taking it all literally would, of course, lead to a nihilistic world view, which I've done because it means I can at least understand that cheating is viewed as something arousing and try to understand consistencies in APs and why they find it arousing. In truth, I have no idea how many st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:19 PM
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Can you link it or however it works on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:12 PM
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Alright, got it. Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:10 PM
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Yes, but I have to assume that a lot of it is real to a certain extent. And I mean women who cheat, not women who get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:09 PM
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Cakeeaters is a hypixel sub but okay. Of course, it's safe to say some are fake, but like I said in another comment, it's difficult to verify which are real and which are fake, and extremes of either won't exactly help. Still, I see your point, and I'll check out the subs you mentioned except for the hypixel one. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:09 PM
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How often are the sob stories true? I feel not often but that's just me. Honestly, to this day, I can't understand why it happens or give a definite reason outside of sexual intimacy. Uh, sure. We can DM.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:58 PM
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I feel cheating is a choice, that's no surprise, but unless they feel cornered into it, most cheaters shouldn't get any significant level of sympathy. But, as you mentioned, the perspective can be valuable to understanding it and learning how to prevent it further down the line. So, thanks for linking the subs. I'll check em out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:54 PM
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Alright then. Thanks for taking the time to respond, even if I didn't understand what you meant :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:51 PM
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Not particularly. You may have to elaborate or be more straightforward as I can't always read between the lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:46 PM
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I'm not sure I do. Could you please inform me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:45 PM
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But why is it that I see that the large population on there is women? I mean, shouldn't it be equal guys, if that's the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:42 PM
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Doing the cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:35 PM
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Hm. As for the first part of your comment, sure, but there are cases where the Sisterhood remains rather strong, like in most cases how girls normally cover for each other when any of them cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:35 PM
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In the case of the subs I refer to in my question, women cheating on their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:19 PM
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I never even knew anti adultery/betrayed spouse subs existed. I should check that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:18 PM
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Somehow, I don't believe that. I mean, there's no way to verify if it's real or not so I guess neither of us can really be sure. Unless you have pointers to help identify such things, in which id greatly appreciate if you had any to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:17 PM
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The latter. I apologize for how I phrased my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:11 PM
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That's... Certainly a different way of seeing it. But I've noticed there's much more complaining on dating subs, at least in my own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:11 PM
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So in other words, what happens happens, you can't control other people. Is that what you're trying to tell me?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:53 PM
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What if she did both? Cheated on me but kept me around? Not all cheating is caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:46 PM
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But wouldn't she not trade up? Like just sleep with the guy and keep me around? I feel that could also happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:42 PM
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And if they're not very up to par? Like, her risk reward deduction thing isn't that great, or if the guy is better in every way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:34 PM
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Let's hope. Thank you for taking the time to respond :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:55 AM
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So, finding a niche in a pool crap? That begs the question of if it's even worth it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:53 AM
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Hence the quotes. Part of the Redpill is self improvement, but I'll leave that aside for now. And as for what you said first, it's just hard not to. But I don't get what you mean. Why would I not care?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:15 AM
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I love his stuff, and I watch him a lot already. He's the only positive "Redpill" influencer I've come across in my life time. I guess you could say my problems started when I came across Reddit. In all seriousness, my worry is that i could get cheated on, but have it hidden from me. A good example is this account, u/HisQueenCunt, which is the main catalyst of this entire thing. Another is u/SorryNotSorryPal, which is also another catalyst. I could name more, but I'll leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:01 AM
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So, basically, work on myself and make myself someone worth dating, then worry about this stuff. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:58 PM
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Im getting the same vibes from another response, so I'll give the same response. What advice would you give me in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:36 PM
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Then what do you recommend I do, then? I mean, I do need advice on this sorta thing. Any advice is appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:34 PM
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So, you're saying I'm exaggerating my learnings? Is it cool if we hop into a private chat? I feel it'll make a couple things I want to say easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:53 PM
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Very well. Thank you for responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:29 PM
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I'm aware. But I feel that's natural for someone like me. regardless, I'll keep what you said in mind. Emotional resilience is key. Thank you for responding. If possible, can we speak via DMs later today?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:21 PM
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I understand that. Thing is, it can very likely happen consistently (getting cheated on) even if I do my best to improve. I've read cases of it happening, so again, what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:58 PM
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I was largely referring to my height when talking about looks, but alright that makes sense. But I still feel as though I can't go above slightly above average in terms of my own looks. As for the cheating thing, that's largely up to whether or not I have self control, because I don't really self rationalize what I do. I can say I would never cheat, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'll believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:29 PM
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How can I even tell if they're happy? I've noticed women can fake emotions very well, so for all I know, they secretly despise their husbands or there's something going on behind the scenes. One look at a couple outside doesn't mean I get the full picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:56 PM
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I thought it was obvious. But yeah, I'm paranoid. But I feel my paranoia is at least grounded in reality to a certain extent. Again, what I've read has told me otherwise, so I can't help but be paranoid for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:51 PM
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What I've read tells me otherwise, but to each their own. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Hope you have a good day :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:49 PM
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I can't even respond to that. It's too platitude like. But sure, thanks I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:43 PM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:20 PM
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Well, you know how parents raise there kids now. Give the kid and iPad and hope they turn into an upstanding citizen. And what I've come to learn is that the internet is run by hate, and you'll learn nothing good on here. Or very little good here. Subjective parental teachings are somehow better for a moral compass than what we learn online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:17 PM
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Still. I feel that not only is that niche increasing, but so is the number who lack a moral compass. When someone like that learns around HS what power they have, they'll likely use it without care for others, and this goes until he settles in his forties. The contrary can be guys who work until their thirties and choose not to have that compass and sleep with whoever, even taken women. Not saying you're wrong, but I feel as though the number of guys I'm referring to is somewhat growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:58 AM
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By what I can't cover. I can't cover the biological aspects of what women find attractive, so wouldn't she cheat on me if I didn't bring those two aspects? They were what women considered attractive, and they put a large emphasis on it, even today. And it's not like I'm not trying. But to some extent, you can only get so far with self improvement. I'm a 4 right now, but I can only get to about a 6 or 7 in attractiveness because I will always lack those two factors, so what stops a woman from che…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:55 AM
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Alright. I'll keep it in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:56 AM
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I don't plan on getting married. Commitment sounds nice, but a marriage in this economy sounds like hell. I also plan on documenting every expense made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:37 AM
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Uh, okay. One thing. I read in many stories where the women said they're happy in their relationships, but they cheated anyways with the guy who embodies the 5. Why? You seem more educated on this than I am, so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:31 AM
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Then can you help inform me then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:19 AM
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What if the guy is blatantly better than her current guy? Like, the guy she's with is 5'7 and some 6'2 guy flirts with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:59 AM
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But what if the chance to trade up, or at the very least mate with more sexually attractive male, is there? Wouldn't she take it? Like I said, there are guys who cover all the 5 and revel in sleeping with other men's women. Like, hypergamous doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:52 AM
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Fair enough. I know college tends to be easier when it comes to getting laid (for mostly women but men too) so I guess that helps. I'll try it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:26 AM
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And so average guys can only do so much. In the past, that was enough because women had access to only who was in the small pool of men within their communities. Not to mention enforced monogamy meant women couldn't share one cream of the crop guy. With that social contract gone, not only is it possible for a woman to keep her guy in the dark and sleep with the guy who has all 6 traits, it's viable in some cases for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:17 AM
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Okay. One thing. At one point can you say you don't need guidance anymore and can't look out for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:42 AM
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This is actually a very different but pleasant response. Thank you, I do already have someone in mind. My gym teacher. Though I can't directly ask him these things so it's best I just learn from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:29 AM
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What other choice do I have? I mean, I'll be honest. The Redpill isn't everything, but there isn't a real place guys can actually learn game or how to approach or just basic flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:18 AM
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Damn. Thanks for reminding me. And yeah, I know. But can you blame me? I mean, given how much value I place on relationships, of course I'd be deep in this shit to figure out how to have a good relationship and not get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:16 AM
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Thanks. I'll check it out when I can. And I'll keep that in mind, to focus on what I can control. Who knows? My dream may even become reality. Thank you for taking the time to respond :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:54 AM
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I don't find it happening, or likely, but thank you. I wish the same for you and your future (unless you already have that, in which I'm happy for you.) :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:39 AM
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But that doesn't make it unlikely. Yes, not every woman goes out expecting to cheat. But there are things that can convince her of it, even things like rumors work. And they may end up doing it and justifying their decision later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:38 AM
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I do. At least I think I'm not that desperate. I never said average is bad. Average is more interesting to me than beautiful or above average, but that's me. Thank you for responding. I'll keep what you said in mind for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:30 AM
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I know, I've been trying to tell myself that. Of the world, I could only confidently say that half to a quarter of the world's population of women cheat. Thing is, not every woman cheats because they're feeling unappreciated. Excitement seems to be a large factor for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:21 AM
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I get that, and the alternative would be to date an average or below average woman, which I'm fine with as long as we match well personality wise. I get your point about choosing between two of the same, but like I said, I can cover only 3 of the 5. So, comparing me to a guy who covered 5 out of 5, what's to say she wont choose him, even if she enjoys being around me? He covers more of the standard than I do, so who cares if we get along better? If anything, I'll be friendzoned. Or she'll choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:15 AM
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Well, i have shit luck, so I can't be sure. I guess I can try given I do have Redpill awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:08 AM
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See? You get it! So if a guy isn't exactly that, then what's the point of even trying to play the game, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:01 AM
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That's my point. Playing the game if you're not the best is a waste of time. And it's always a waste of time to work towards it. Again, I wish I could see that. Maybe I have to go through my own trauma episode first or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:00 AM
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I don't imagine theyre all too common. But I feel as though the juice ain't worth the squeeze given the risk. I just wish I could see that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:34 PM
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I'll be honest, I wasn't thinking when I made the first comment, hence why I deleted it. I don't necessarily see how this relates to my initial question, though. It's not who finds who attractive, it's how to stop it from happening, and whether or not the average dude who doesn't have the five should still play the game. Not to mention they could have easily lied when asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:33 PM
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I frankly have no real response, but anecdotally, it's said otherwise. And I honestly see more evidence pointing towards my view than what's given. But, I'll keep this in mind going forward. Thank you for commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:20 PM
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