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Men aren’t honest about anything a woman doesn’t plainly ask about. Ask them their intentions. If his answer is vague he just wants sex. If he says he wants commitment then he should prove he’s not lying and that he wants commitment with you. If he does want commitment with you, he’ll wait to have sex. No exceptions. If he really likes you, he’ll even use other women for sex while still dating you. This is how men who actually get what they want in the dating market behave. Men who are used to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:20 PM
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But if you did meet a virgin, apart from being too young and inexperienced to know better, why would she want you? If the only women willing to give you a chance are non virgins who make you wait for sex, why are you making that woman’s choice about you, and not her own experiences with heartbreak or whatever else? You don’t think that’s egotistical? At that point, it just sounds like you’re trying to make relationships about some power struggle, and who in their right mind wants to put up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:03 PM
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This is why so many men are going to die alone. As a man, you’re supposed to prove to the woman you’re interested in that you’re not going to be a complete waste of her time. It’s wild that men spend so much of their lives trying to procure sex from women, just to end up going about it all wrong and wasting their own time. If all you want from women is sex, save yourself some valuable time and energy and pay a sex worker. That’s what they exist for. If you want a woman to genuinely like you, giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:49 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:22 PM
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No one fucking said that but nice job volunteering for victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:36 AM
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And? Men had to prove they could replace or improve what the woman’s father could provide for her, because her being able to provide for herself wasn’t a possibility at all. Also, if the woman came from money, a man seeking to marry her had to be of the same class as her father to protect the wealth that the woman would inherit and relinquish control of to her husband. Whether or not the woman liked the man, found him desirable or interesting, or even wanted to be married and give birth at all w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:50 PM
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So you’re saying that testosterone levels aren’t decreasing where there is constant violence and economic desperation? So in places where there is peace and stable living conditions men have less testosterone? Sounds like evolution to me. If human life keeps improving, maybe men will catch up to women as far as domestication.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:53 AM
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You’re right. I’m a misandrist, racist, female supremacist and a black nationalist. When men lose I cheer and sleep well at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:38 PM
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That applies mainly to white men. All that colonizing and pillaging makes the dominant race too comfortable and soft.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:34 PM
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But since you brought up Wikipedia, I just happened to have this link open in my browser. First paragraph completely contradicts your bullshit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_human_migrations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:39 AM
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Yeah I know the bullshit they taught you in school that all human genome research has completely debunked. More bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:37 AM
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I’m some racist nut because I don’t care if a bunch of losers die virgins. Sure. The people in my country have been through slavery, colonization, war, famine…move to other nations by the millions, marry and have children with other races, and still manage to have record population growth and the largest population on the African continent. Not to mention, we have the oldest genetics known to man. White people only been around for about 6 thousand years. Our genetics have been estimated to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:36 AM
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The only consequences will be more job opportunities for women, immigrants, and minorities, and a rapidly dying white population (dying faster than reproducing). I am black and female. Nigerian at that. Nigeria has one if the fastest growing populations on earth, and are some of the most educated immigrants. Consequences my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:19 AM
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Bullshit. I never said women do no wrong. Please stop. You’re right women do screw whomever they want, and just because they’re saying no to you and 80% of the men they have access to doesn’t mean they’re doing anything wrong. Let’s get back to the point here: men having less sex is a complete and total non issue and no one with the sense god gave them cares. You’re not owed sex just because you’re alive and have a penis but you believe otherwise. And before you lie and say you don’t believe tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:00 AM
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No my argument works period because female orgasms never get anyone pregnant. It’s way easier to find women who regularly say no to sex than it is to find an attractive man (or any man) who won’t screw any woman who will allow him. The problem has never been women having sex, and always has been men having much MUCH less of an ability to be sexually responsible and exercise restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:44 AM
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And what I said has Fuck all to do with morals. It’s basic math and good old fashioned course correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:02 AM
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Oh get the fuck out of here. Less men screwing means less pregnancy and namely, unwanted pregnancy. Hypothetically of course, and to illustrate how much of a problem sexually irresponsible men can be: one man could create 1500 unwanted pregnancies in a year by ejaculating five times a day for 300 days. You tell me the last time a woman’s orgasm got anyone pregnant. When I was 10 years old the world population was 6 billion and now it’s nearly 8 billion. In less than 30 years the world population…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:00 AM
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Frankly, the fact that someone is allocating resources to conduct research surveys on why 20 year old men aren’t having sex is lunacy. Who the hell is supposed to seriously give a damn about that foolishness when we have MUCH bigger fish to fry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:39 AM
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And to speak to your little article, if men under 30 aren’t having sex GOOD. They need to spend that time being economically strategic, goal oriented, and viewing the companionship of a nice woman as a privilege that needs to be earned and then properly maintained instead of some piss measuring contest on how much casual sex they can procure. The number 1 cause of unwanted pregnancies is reckless ejaculation by pecker happy boys in men’s bodies. Men are also much more likely to spread stds due t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:34 AM
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It doesn’t disprove anything because I brought up population ratios to stress that there will always be a significant amount of men who do not pass on genetic material. This is why polygamy is outlawed, to give the average man a fair shot. So my point stands, men aren’t entitled to female companionship or sex with women just by virtue of being born male. To believe anything else is childish and self centered because this will always be true for millions of men worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:29 AM
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So social programs put in place to reverse thousands of years of social conditioning that kept women severely underrepresented or grossly misrepresented in the economy, politics, media, etc is bad in your estimation? That tracks for an American white male.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:42 PM
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So what is your point? That men have always worked, earned money, and been seen as vital to societal life and the economy? Is that the point you’re trying to make. Okay whatever. And why even mention the pendulum metaphor if you can’t even bring yourself to suppose that it has swung equally as far in the opposite direction? You do understand that this metaphor exist to illustrate how correction of structural discrimination works right? The more a particular group of people dominate another, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:33 PM
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You don’t even believe that. Every young man insist women are just as bad or even worse than men until they have a daughter. So full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:06 PM
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Your anecdote means and your little what if’s mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things because we have real world data and scientific evidence that makes you sound insane. It’s a complete bad faith, fallacious, ridiculous position to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:55 PM
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The switch you’re talking about is called an endocrine system. Men’s endocrine system predisposes them to violent, aggressive, and sexually deviant behavior, especially when they have not been properly socialized and taught how to process negative emotions. That is a scientific fact, and proposing that women are as equally capable of that on a large scale is hyperbolic and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:27 PM
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I’m sorry that happened to you. You must know however that it’s much more likely to happen to women. I can empathize with being sexually assaulted, but I can’t in good faith allow any man to tout the idea that sexual assault is structurally as common or pervasive for men as it is for women. It’s intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:05 PM
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And that man should just accept that and/or be willing to pay for companionship. Men wrap a lot of their self esteem up in what they can “win”. When men can’t beat other men in sports, they claim their favorite team, buy a jersey, and live vicariously through other men by watching sports on tv or going to games. When they can’t put earn other men they project themselves onto rich politicians and in some cases celebrity personalities. But not being able to “win” sex and the affections of women se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:49 PM
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If you think men outnumbering women by 100 million is a natural occurrence you’re misinformed. You can thank femicide, and infant femcide for that. Under normal Circumstances (read in places where women and babies aren’t murdered just for being female) the rate at which male babies outnumber female babies is immaterial. It doesn’t deviate far from 50/50 at all. Discontentment is a state of mind and being paired doesn’t eradicate it and that’s my point. Humans are communal and need to be around o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:41 PM
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Sorry y’all live in the Metaverse but the real world has universal laws that apply to everyone. As previously stated, the further a pendulum swings one direction, the more momentum it has to swing in the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:21 PM
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The only thing you’re right about is that men are affected by women having more social equity and opportunity. The only way men are affected is that now they have to gain access to a better life because they earned it and not just because they are men. You don’t get a doting wife anymore just because women need husbands to survive. You don’t get a raise at work over the next man or woman just because you got a wife and a baby. Legally the woman who wants the same position you do can’t be disqual…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:19 PM
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So women have been actually banned from formal education, economic participation, and politics for 500 years and you think the same thing is currently being done to men? You think someone is actively stopping men from doing anything of note? I’m sorry, when did the majority of law makers, judges, police officers, college deans and professors, millionaires, billionaires, successful business owners, history book authors, religious leaders, gods, historical heros, scientist, doctors, best selling a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:15 PM
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And there are no god damned letters my grandparents were barely literate and if they weren’t they were too busy trying to beat off state sanctioned violence against black people and poverty write letters. Grow up you sound like a Disney narration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:03 PM
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My mothers dead and I never said my parents and grandparents didn’t love each other. My point is marrying for love is a modern and commercial ideology. As to everything else that you said, the fact that all of history is recorded by and centered on the male experience is what makes a so called “feminist narrative” even necessary. History is recorded taught and interpreted damn near as if women didn’t exist or just sat quietly observing until they were told to do something. It’s easy to dismiss t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:01 PM
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Bringing up the fact that African slaves were treated worse than (white) women when there were female and married African slaves makes you right about nothing. The fact that cows are killed and consumed on a larger scale than dogs doesn’t make cruelty against dogs non existent. Your argument is so fallacious and simple minded that it’s insulting that I’m replying to you at all. Your thought isn’t even fully formed or clearly made. There isn’t one thing I said that can be categorized as wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:49 PM
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The most primitive cultures on earth right now restrict the rights of women and are extremely punitive against them. They also are the places most likely to see a drastic difference in population balance between men and women. All first world countries have about a 50/50 ratio of men to women. In places like India and China, (where killing female infants and femcide is or was practiced up until the early 2000’s) men outnumber women as high as 4 to 1 in major cities. Making women a scarcity gives…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:43 PM
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And to speak to your little slavery comment, my grandmother’s mother was born a slave. So I will say with my whole chest BOTH TIDDIES that for a very long time, marriage was ABSOLUTELY slavery for women. There were actually women in my lineage who gasp married their actual owner. There were levels to slavery. African slaves and livestock were about on the same level, then poor children who were forced to do dangerous labor, then indentured servitude, then (white) women in a marriage. All of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:25 PM
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Well if you are trying to convince an adult of sound mind to give up their family name and identity, risk their life several times to birth more humans (preferably sons), have sex on demand whether they are attracted to you or not, give up control of any resources they’ve earned or inherited, give up any relenting hope that they can have a life outside of glorified housemaid, sex servant, baby machine, and in many cases punching bag…among a host of other things …you damn sure better come with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:16 PM
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It’s different how it plays out because men and women are different, as are the expectations put on each. Similar but there are still fundamental differences in the ways it plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:46 AM
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Someone did reply but deleted it because they didn’t have a real counterpoint just like you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:44 AM
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There are several factors to consider here. If I was repulsive to 8 out of every ten men and it would cost me thousands of dollars to change that, it would come down to one of two things a. Could I afford that and would it be a wise investment if I can b. Do I actually want to change my appearance solely to attract men There are several women who have counted up the cost and determined that for one reason or another, it’s either not possible or not worth it. Doesn’t mean they don’t suffer or fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:21 AM
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That was my point. It’s literally said plainly in the very first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:02 AM
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“Large number of lower class men were prevented from marrying outright” Yes, that’s because patriarchy doesn’t work without men with more resources gaining access to more women. Patriarchy is about who can dominate whom. Not social equity. The historical position is very much relevant here, to those who aren’t trying to blame women for their lack of romantic prospects. When you put the current state of male and female relationships in historical context, the way things are currently track withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:01 AM
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It’s not a contradiction because I just happened to meet someone who actually was able to show that their presence did not diminish or pale in comparison to my contentment being alone. As far as your generalization, it doesn’t work because generalizations need to apply to an overwhelming majority to reflect some semblance of truth and/or reality. Most women do not experience some grand level of validation from the opposite sex. And no one needs to validate why they reject anyone or prove they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 03:06 AM
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Ps, hope that wasn’t too many words for you 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:50 AM
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So you mean to tell me that there’s no way a woman currently in her 30’s was affected by the social status quo that only ended 20 years before she was born 🤔 So you’re saying that thousands of years of engineered human behavior stopped immediately and entirely in just one generation…and has been effectively reversed in less than 50 years? Please don’t allow your cognitive dissonance to make a fool of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:49 AM
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Let me help you out sis. I’m in a committed relationship but I still find other people sexually attractive. I think a major difference between men and women is that lack of testosterone makes it harder for women to act on sexual impulses. We tend to consider more than just the need to Orgasm when sizing up men. Including how it would make our significant other feel. Testosterone predisposes men to act without considering the cost of their actions. Men will lose half their assets and their family…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:44 AM
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Women do have it as bad as men in different ways. If a woman is considered unattractive, she goes through life either being completely ignored by men or mistreated in subtle and overt ways. Women may not get rejected after approaching men because we don’t approach. But being ignored totally by most men is a form of rejection and it’s just as hard on a woman’s self esteem as being rejected is for men. Women get dumped or used by men out of their league just like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:30 AM
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As someone in a happy relationship, I disagree completely. I genuinely like my significant other and enjoy his company. If I never met him, I’d be satisfied dying alone even with moments of loneliness or longing for companionship. I think that for thousands of years, women were forced to either pair with men and give them children or live a life as a desperately poor, miserable social pariah. For most of modern recorded history, women paired with men overwhelmingly out of social duress and fear …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:16 AM
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