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Where I live it is well over 100 degrees F
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:40 PM
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Some men want an experienced doctor, experienced lawyer, experienced teacher or mentor, experienced accountant, experienced mechanic, yet want the woman touching his junk to have absolutely no clue what she is doing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:40 PM
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A bullet is strangely unconcerned with the size, strength, gender, or fitness of its target
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:36 PM
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Yeah but I care about it the other way too, I don't want to date some sexually repressed religions fundamentalist tradcon either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 04:42 AM
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If no one grows the food the army doesn't eat. If no one makes weapons and armor the warrior can't fight
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:35 AM
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And yet Audie Murphy accomplished far more than any bouncer ever did while being smaller than many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:31 AM
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Your description of decisive and dominant means, as a man, I am expected to constantly have strong preferences about everything, even mundane things. I'm just not wired that way, and if that is the expectation, it sounds....exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:17 PM
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That's fair. I'm more pushing back on the "dominant" or "decisive" part
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:14 PM
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I already work two jobs, last thing I want is a relationship that sounds like a third, unpaid job
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:21 PM
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But I think it's kind of stupid to expect someone to be especially *decisive* about "where to eat dinner Tuesday night" vs. "who do I vote for" or "what car should I buy." The first example is routine, mundane, and unimportant, the latter two are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:14 PM
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I always describe it as live and live or being easygoing. But apparently many women seem to view that as unmasculine. More like there are things that are important that I care about that I have strong preferences or opinions or beliefs , .but being expected to have strong preferences about everything, even trivial mundane items, and being expected to make all or the majority of the decisions in a collaborative partnership consisting of two fully autonomous adults just sounds exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:12 PM
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What I dislike about that example is I am expected to have strong preferences about something relatively trivial. There are multiple restaurants close to my place that I consider good, and since I'm easygoing and like different kinds of food, I'd rather go somewhere the other person would enjoy. Most of the time I don't have some massive preference for Tex Mex vs Italian
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:54 PM
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Why do so many women want a man to be at least some degree of dominant in bed though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:49 PM
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Usually strangely enough it comes down to "look like you have money"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:46 PM
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Nothing says strength of convictions and character like....mindlessly conforming to a propagandized stereotypical gender role.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 02:33 AM
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It's just devaluing and disrespecting the working class, like always. In many trades an aging workforce and shortages are a real problem, unions have been progressively neutered, etc. How the fuck are you going to solve the housing crisis when you have no plumbers, carpenters, electricians, HVAC people, etc because those jobs have been socially stigmatized as being "for people too dumb for college?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 02:31 AM
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What the Dems should have done is focus on class. Who gives a fuck if the CEO wanting to replace you with AI or cut your wages and benefits in favor of stock buybacks or buying up housing at above market cash prices to turn it into an investment property has a vagina or a penis?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 02:28 AM
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Confusion of wealth with conspicuous consumption, perhaps?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 02:22 AM
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The Dems would rather lose to Trump than adopt a populist platform
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 02:21 AM
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Yet as someone who never had and doesnt want kids I'm tired of women claiming motherhood as an ultimate trump card
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:58 AM
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RE: style - women have orders of magnitude more options in this area than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:00 PM
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Funny how the more intelligent a man is, and fhe better his character, the less sexual he is. Like at this point if a woman says I'm a good guy (which I have heard many times) Im just gonna assume it means she thinks I can't fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:28 AM
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Ive worked at one of my jobs for 20 years. A couple of weeks ago I couldnt clock in because our time clock login system was having problems. Did I suddenly become incompetent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:47 PM
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Plenty of dude bros get business degrees, which isnt exactly engineering
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:42 PM
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WW2 Japanese army is an extreme example of this - its theorized that much of their brutality and depraivty was because low ranking soldiers were often beaten and abused/brutalized by their officers and NCOs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:40 PM
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Is the same guy coming up multiple times a week losing his stuff? People dont go to the lost and found area unless - get this - they lose something. So of course you'd have a skewed perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:38 PM
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Women deigning to grace men they deem below average with their presence isnt exactly flattering to their gender, eifher.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:33 PM
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Guys who look like that do way better woth women here than my long-haired ass
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:25 AM
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Then in my experience the man better have won the genetic lottery in order to compensate for his lack of income and still be considered attractive. At least its much easier to increase one's income potential than win the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:23 PM
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How much effort can one put in for a gender who thinks 5'10" is practically a midget and two standard deviations from the median income in either direction is abject poverty level of broke?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:14 PM
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Imagine being a 20 year Teamster but also kind of a nerd. Worst of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:57 AM
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Women love men who desire power and dominance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:30 AM
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Furries conform to a highly niche culture. Not everyone fits perfectly into a box.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:25 AM
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Cheating, chronic unemployment, or alcoholism is acceptable, but vulgar sweaters is where we draw the line
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:23 AM
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I think it's a good idea in general, but rather inefficient in terms of time and effort ratio in finding a partner. For example, even if there are many women in the group, how many are single, looking, in a reasonable age range, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:42 AM
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I wish I could meet a somewhat minimalist woman, most women here think minimalist means "broke."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:01 PM
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Women also tend to fill their living spaces with way more crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:14 PM
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I've had lug studs break off before because of overtightening, and I keep a long handled breaker bar, 6 point socket, and a cheater bar in my vehicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:11 PM
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New cars are a pain in the ass to work on and my truck is under warranty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:10 PM
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Is there no middle ground between "disgusting" and "surgically sterilized?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:07 PM
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Truly what will move the human species forward is having better NBA centers and power forwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:02 PM
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The fascists believed that shit and ended up surrendering unconditionally in 1945
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:39 AM
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Because sex is fun and relationships come with a lot of extra work, responsibilities, and obligations?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:38 AM
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Women have vastly more options to look attractive/desirable archetypes than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:44 PM
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Do you assume the side which wins a war only does so because muh superior masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:41 PM
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Behind every military power is an economic power. Can't have an army if you can't feed or equip it and technology has always been incredibly important in warfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:36 PM
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I live in the US and our foreign policy has killed orders of magnitude more innocent people than rogue civilian actors
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:35 PM
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Men should have hobbies. But not *those* hobbies! You need to leave your house and get outside - but don't go fishing! Women want masculine men - but don't post a photo of participating in an activity generally associated with men! If a guy is fishing from his $60,000 bass boat (that he towed to the lake with a $90K truck) is he "low status?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:29 PM
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I remember what dating was like before the apps
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:27 PM
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Women - bald is bad. Also women: if you have hair, shave it off
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:02 PM
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Jeremy Meeks looks like a fucking skinhead
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:26 PM
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Most people have jobs, hobbies, and friends to some degree, even those who are single and looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:11 PM
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If he was a teenager in the 90s he's a younger GenXer or older millennial, not a boomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:16 PM
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People (men or women) thinking height is some sort of end-all, be-all factor of strength is hilarious. Ex-wife was 5'11" (slightly taller than me) but I could pick her up bodily, etc. I'm a fairly unassuming looking guy (more lean than jacked, average height, wear glasses, long hair) but I also spent decades working physically intense blue-collar jobs and having active hobbies. Plenty of jacked 6' plus dudes who didn't last 3 days at a non-climate controlled UPS hub in the unload.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:25 AM
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IF I am expected to share collective blame and guilt for everything bad my gender does, than I should share collective praise and acclaim for everything good my gender does. Not that I actually want that, but at least be consistent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 01:38 AM
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Here in the US our war in Iran has resulted in infinitely more innocent deaths than rogue civilian incel shooters, yet our culture constantly fellates the military as the be all end all of masculine virtue
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 11:37 PM
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Imagine thinking tattoos make someone edgy or rebellious in 2026
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:51 PM
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Shit like this just makes me believe I am some inferior species of male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:50 PM
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Cool now compare to athletes, actors, musicians, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:48 PM
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I wouldnt want a buddy who was constantly trying to start shit though either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:31 PM
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Since when have intellectuals, cerebrals, or academics ever been considered particularly masculine or attractive by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:20 PM
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According to neolibs the working class, foreign and domestic, must know their place and never question their betters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:20 AM
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If you had to change something about your life, money is probably the most fungible factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 12:02 AM
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Education is for pussies, right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:42 PM
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They view the working class as uneducated culturally problematic cretins
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:09 PM
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He said that he was opposed to single payer healthcare because it was too disruptive to the current healthcare industry
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:08 PM
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What do they call it when a man commits suicide?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:06 PM
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A species that is physically unimpressive as shit yet which is able to invent the internet, AI, space travel, and stealth aircraft which can take off vertically is sure as hell obsessed with obsolete caveman shit that hasn't been relevant for generations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 06:09 AM
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Or they are just genuinely self-loathing modern day flagellants
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 06:00 AM
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Neoliberalism is like Christianity in the since that original sin exists and members of groups deemed privileged are tainted, but the main difference is that at least in Christianity there are the concepts of forgiveness, redemption, and atonement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 05:58 AM
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Women are happy to talk to me until its time to go home with somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:14 PM
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Also someone who desires to be submissive and to be led.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:11 PM
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On this subreddit, it's mostly a weaponized, ableist slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:09 PM
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You don't have to be some loud obnoxious agressive asshole meathead to pull a trigger if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:08 PM
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I dont think all travel is seen as equal. Going to another state for business or driving a few hours to see a concert isnt the same as visiting exotic international destinations, and you damn well know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:58 PM
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For people like you no source is acceptable regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:44 PM
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Because if you aren't hot shit you get the double whammy of a second rate experience and higher, not lower, expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:41 PM
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Yeah thats the thing. I think when women say "attractive blue collar man" its a very specific definition, either 1. Some guy who looks he could be on a Hot Firemen calendar or something 2. A guy who fixes stuff. But many blue collar dudes dont fall into either category.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:46 PM
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Im smart but blue collar, women care a hell of a lot more about the latter than the former
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:10 AM
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I dont think he's saying that, just wondering why average/normal = trash, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:29 PM
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Imagine thinking a category of people is actually subhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:53 PM
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Unironic Aktion T4 supporter?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:32 AM
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Why use many word when few word do trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:30 AM
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Is it irrational to weigh the expenditure of time, effort, and energy, which are finite, vs. effect and results?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:11 AM
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How much can men really move the needle considering so much of male physical attractiveness is hard-coded?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:09 PM
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Mindless positivity allowed only, can't say things that are negative. Meanwhile Lillth posting spam in here every single day is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:29 PM
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Heaven forbid a man be an introvert, cerebral, introspective, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:08 PM
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I'm saying we're fucking tool using apes but by all means all that matters is being Large and Dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:36 PM
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No I'm pointing how fucking dumb and absurd it is. Do you know who the fucking Ghurkas are? IF you wanted a bodyguard, would you pick some 6'2" gym bro who had never been in actual fight over a 5'8" combat veteran infantryman who was carrying a pistol?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:51 PM
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Height is the sole factor, the be all end all, of "physical protection?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 10:28 PM
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Humans, unarmed, lose badly to dog breeds half our size. Physically we're incredibly unimpressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:48 AM
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Larger easier to hit target?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:44 AM
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women are the ones who seem to attach inordinate importance to height.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:44 AM
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Thank God American women never judge a man by his income or occupation....(not a passport bro, but you have got to be kidding me)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:43 AM
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My roommate frequently travels to Finland and is engaged to a Finnish man. She is is of mixed Native American, Black, and European American descent and looks "exotic": when she goes there. If I, a white man of Scotch-Irish descent go to Scandanavia, I'm just another pale strawberry blond guy who probably doesn't stand out at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:41 AM
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Most people, men or women, are by definition somewhere in the realm of average, within 1-2 standard deviations. Why we think average means below average or loser is anyone's guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:38 AM
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Who cares? No war but class war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/26 03:36 AM
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Personality traits have IIRC a pretty strong heritable component, we aren't a blank slate, and certain traits are heavily favored over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:01 PM
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I did change my behavior - I'm objectively better in every way now than I was in the period of my life when I had success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:55 PM
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And they are scared shitless of guns, too, so they couldn't even use the most effective equalizer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 12:52 PM
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They want to smash the glass ceiling so they can engage in maximum rent extraction to prioritize short term gains for shareholders along with the MBA douchebros and continue to destroy organized labor and exploit the workers and/or try to replace them with AI/automation. The only reason they want to overthrow those at the top is so they can take their place
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 12:31 PM
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Of late most of my existence has been centered on starting a new career while still working my old job...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:07 AM
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Considering how many women consider fatherhood attractive and masculine, "dad energy" etc I just figure not having or wanting kids was just more item on a long and distinguished list of reasons to get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:31 AM
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Or taking up drug addiction, addicts certainly are motivated....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:29 AM
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Funny how only leaders are seen as worthy of respect
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:32 AM
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Show me a man low in the hierarchy and I will show you a man seen as unattractive by the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:29 AM
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What's the acceptable income delta between attractive and unattractive for a man's income?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:03 AM
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"The rest of it" is heavily genetically determined almost as much as looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:57 AM
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Also there's the implication that those men who don't or can't serve are seen as less masculine, or that being a veteran makes one more of a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/26 01:51 AM
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How would that even work, Russia is much weaker than the USSR ever was and their "short war" in Ukraine has dragged on for 4 years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/26 11:09 AM
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Neoliberalism has thrown working class masculinity under the bus. The perjorative "union thug" didn't come from nowhere, the main reason for the creation of the SA Brownshirts was to fight the Communist street brawlers who tried to break up fascist meetings, etc. The old left had plenty of not only militant trade unionists but also disaffected soldiers, farmers, etc. Hardly effeminate types.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:21 AM
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I think there's a bit of nuance there though. Like you can live comfortably without being "wealthy", whereas being single or having a partner is a binary situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:06 AM
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And as we all know, it is worse to be weird than narcissistic, dishonest, an addict, violent, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:14 AM
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My parents are still married. They met each other in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:04 AM
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Ok that was legit funny as shit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:36 AM
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Yeah. I feel like I've busted my ass to get where I am and in many ways unfuck myself, but not only is that never good enough to reach an eternally-moving goalpost/ever-inflating standards, but I feel like the fucked up younger version of me was actually seen as more attractive in a relative sense, and it's a complete mind fuck. Maybe the best analogue is inflation and cost of living. I make money now that younger me would have considered solidly middle class, but in reality I don't feel particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:15 PM
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If it makes a difference I thought, after reading that, "damn, that's a very insightful way of putting it." I took it to mean both parties contribute to the whole but not on a strict quid-pro-quo basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:12 PM
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When I was 25 MILFs liked me. Now Im 46 and women my age wouldnt piss on me if I were on fire. No I'm not bald or fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:01 AM
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Doesn't matter, Hollywood will make a vastly inferior Matrix reboot because they are obsessed with recycling old ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:05 AM
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And no stability or benefits, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:52 AM
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Some trades jobs make six figures. Many do not. Many of those that do have other downsides like physical or health risks. Also, the blue collar work force is far less unionized than it once was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:51 AM
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"Putting them in their place" implies the belief in a rigid hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:01 PM
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Do you not realize half of men are weaker than the other half?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:33 AM
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If a guy thinks he is hopelessly unattractive anyway, what would it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:22 AM
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Tradcons say women should submit, but it's hardly uncommon for women to insist that men should lead or that dominance is attractive, whether sexual or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:27 AM
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You can just get a large trained dog and/or a firearm if you feel as though you need protection that badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:25 AM
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Education is an independent axis from ethics and moral character.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:14 AM
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I wear a lot of black because I'm a metalhead
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:26 PM
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Usually PTSD results from something like physical/sexual abuse, being in combat or other experiences of violence, natural disasters, etc. Kissing someone seems a little....extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:16 PM
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Do you believe men are attractive, or hideous, with no territory in between those two poles?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:13 PM
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Most of the men doing the killing of innocents these days are soldiers, and the military is typcially viewed as a masculine and attractive profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:06 PM
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And not everyone listens to Megan Thee Stallion either. I know who she is, but as mostly a guy who likes music of the guitar, bass, and drum-having variery, I could name exactly one of her songs with a gun to my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:53 AM
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Depends, if you dont eat enough and overtrain, thats bad too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:14 AM
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Look, the guy is an asshole and sleazy. Im not sticking up for him But its dumb AF in this thread to act like the NBA is some obscure niche sports franchise or that Klay is just some random player.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:02 AM
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Were you around for the 1992 Olympic Dream Team?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:49 PM
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Several of the best NBA superstars playing today are Europeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:03 PM
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She'll probably still get into the RRHOF before Motorhead, though....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:02 PM
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Most people do more than "simply exist." Both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:36 PM
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Yeah but it often creates a sort of Matthew Effect feedback loop, which can be very insidious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:46 AM
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Sexuality is part of humanity. It requires consent and desire from another human. That's what makes it different from other forms of self worth. Also, romantic and sexual connection are not esoteric or rare, they're quite ubiquitous, so they aren't seen as unreasonable expectations by most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:33 PM
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Do you think the average - not below average - man is useless and provides zero value whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:18 PM
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Maybe people want to think that at least they aren't sexually repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:47 PM
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I've said it many times and will repeat it. It was in the biggest loser phase of my life when I had the most success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:44 PM
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Thanks for the kind words
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:21 AM
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The same people who post about AI girlfriends are probably posting ChatGPT slop on their linkedin profiles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 07:06 PM
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thanks for the kind words but at this point it just feels like its too little, too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:55 PM
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From what I gather, masculinity seems to mean loud, violent, and stupid
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 06:54 PM
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"Whine' being defined "anything other than blind unconditional positivity"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:48 PM
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Entitlement being defined as "when a man exists and expresses anything other than unconditional positivity"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:44 PM
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If only people couldn't encapsulate everything into the character limits of a Twitter comment. People complain TL;DR over a five paragraph comment yet there are books over a thousand pages long.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:43 PM
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I agree with your motivations but I feel like I might as well ask for a unicorn or a job that pays 250K a year with 2 months of PTO, pension with inflation adjustments, and health insurance while I'm at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:36 PM
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As if successful men aren't also motivated by competitiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:33 PM
0

But introverts aren't losers or inferior people. Human society requires diversity and specialization. And not every culture is as hyper-extroverted as, say, the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:42 PM
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True, there are different styles of humor. I suck at telling canned jokes, but my humor is more about rapid fire wit, tends to be observational and contextual/situational like yours, and works best when it plays off what the other person says. One of the hottest qualities of a woman is if we can match wits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:50 PM
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Visibility is a form of status. Not the only one, but one of them. This is not a hard concept to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:44 PM
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One example: I've been in the local music scene for awhile and trust me the lead singer or guitarist in a local band or the venue owner or, in the case of a friend of mine, local radio DJ is going to get a hell of a lot more attention than some rando in the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:19 AM
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Never had an issue with making people laugh, women included. Never got me laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:14 AM
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I think it depends how its framed. They need to he helped because they are a real or potential problem that needs solving, or they need to be helped because they are human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:01 AM
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I have long hair. More women like the bald/shaved look if my observations can tell you anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:45 AM
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Those dull meatheads rarely lack partners though. Just because something is different or more rare doesnt mean its inherently valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:48 AM
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Well the other thing is the people I hung out with in my 20s were the metalhead party crowd. And the more I experience that culture, and those people, in my 40s, the less I think I have in common with them. In my mid 20s-mid 30s, I was with my ex wife and many of the people I hung out with were "her" crowd. I tend to have a weird streak of bad luck where my closest friends tend to transition in life after about 7-9 years....they end up moving far away or getting married/starting a family etc and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:03 AM
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Some of those are cool but yet I am thinking: Your 78 year old dad is retired, he has plenty of time to engage in such activities. Me? I work 2 jobs. Your husband calls his high school friends - I was a working class kid who went to an elite prep school on an academic scholarship. Those people treated me like shit then, why would I maintain ties with them? Thru hiking? Id love to do the AT in a few years when I retire from one job, but the most I could ever manage until then is a couple of week …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:47 PM
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Like I don't want to, quote Chris Farley, "live in a van down by the river" and just because I like hiking and kayaking doesn't mean I'm some weird granola-eating hippie. I just thinking having 5 figure credit card debt is dumb and not everyone needs to lease an $80K SUV that they trade in every 2-3 years. Jesus...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:19 PM
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No, but it is always a question of whether effort expended is proportional to result gained. Time and energy are finite. If I'm always going to be a loser, or ugly, or never make the cut, fine, honestly I'd prefer they tell me straight and I'll focus on something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:14 PM
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Just have pop star level of charisma and talent, bro. Easy as.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:48 PM
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If she's a competitive bodybuilder that makes sense, that's not just "someone who works out," it's a whole ass lifestyle at that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:44 PM
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So then why should a man bother with self improvement if getting 90% of the way there is the same failure as being 40%?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:39 PM
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And women calling Adam Driver "unconventionally attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:37 PM
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Yeah but it sucks when you don't really fit into a type or niche of the people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:35 PM
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Yeah because there are just so many women who are into that.....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:28 PM
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It's more like an FWB thing I'd rather have. Doesn't mean I don't like her or don't enjoy doing non-sexual stuff. Just why do we need to live together or merge lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:27 PM
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For me I have a pretty minimalist life. I rent a single room, drive a base trim inexpensive truck, don't go out that often, work 2 jobs, etc. Some might call that "boring" or think I'm broke, but it's also enabled me to damn near completely erase all my debt in a two year period. But I always felt like if I were to get into a relationship many women would gripe about the things mentioned above. I think that's sort of what he's hinting at. Like women say they are attracted to an ambitious hard wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:15 PM
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Interesting, when I said the reason I didn't want a LTR was because I like my life as-is for the most part, I got called self centered and "only wanting sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:09 PM
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By that logic single moms shouldn't date either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:07 AM
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Fuck me for being cerebral and analytical I guess. I wouldn't ever want to regress to being that version of myself again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:32 PM
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Being able to live a life your proud of is a rapidly moving goal post in this age/economy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:01 PM
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For someone who has limited free time and energy, they can be at least somewhat efficient. At least you know the people on there are (mostly) single and actively looking, and you can filter by things like distance and age. That's probably the biggest advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:59 PM
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True but I do find it interesting that in my toxic loser phase was when I had the most success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:43 PM
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Ill never forget browsing a reddit thread on a sub for mental health professionals. The topic was how men seem resistant to therapy and the responses from mental health professionals in the thread made me hope to God no man had given these people a dime of their hard earned money, if thats how they really view their male patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:32 PM
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Source: I'm a former burned out gifted kid who went blue collar for most of his life. Smart women care more about the blue collar or lack of credentials part, or they ask some variation of the whole "you're a smart guy, how did you end up a loser" dressed up in nicer language.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:06 PM
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Wait til you hear about how many people die or suffer addiction to prescription drug abuse, especially opioids. RX abuse outranks all illicit drug use except marijuana which even then is becoming more legal and accepted
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:02 PM
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Aligning with the war criminal Cheney family wasn't a morally great look either, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 01:57 PM
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Intelligence is never sexually attractive unless it is used as a means to status or wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:45 PM
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If you don't go to med school, you're morally trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:42 PM
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What do they want men to do? Publicly whip themselves in the streets and become neo-flagellants?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 12:39 PM
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For most straight dudes there is still a huge difference between fucking an unattractive woman and fucking another dude. As in a 10 mile wide chasm of difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:02 PM
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I don't know what the threshold for how unattractive a woman has to be to make fucking another man preferable for straight men, but I imagine it is...astronomically high.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:01 PM
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Yeah but what the hell does someone like me do who doesnt neatly fit into any "type?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:18 AM
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Imagine a society which says intellectualism is unmanly yet mocks the lack of college education
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:02 AM
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Just be a jock, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:01 AM
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More like its inaccurate. A guy can be straight, not asexual, but still decide dating isn't worth it for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:48 PM
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Queer leaning woman aka butch, probably has hair shorter than mine, and is into essential oils or crystals or astrology? Ever hear that saying about being too weird for normal people but too normal for weird people? I also work for the oil and gas industry and read books about investing, probably a turnoff to that crowd...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:11 AM
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I'm largely going by what I see and hear women say and do, as to what kind of guys they go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:44 AM
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An introverted man talking about his experience in dating and social interaction as an introverted man is not pertinent to a discussion about introverted men, dating, and social interaction. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:03 AM
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If you're going to dig up old posts, then I'm going to repost my last comment, which you never bothered responding to: I'm an introverted guy. I never had trouble making people laugh or talking to people. I used to have a side hustle as a rideshare driver and in a busy night I might have a few dozen strangers in my car and I'd try to engage all of them unless they were silent themselves and I enjoyed that aspect of it since I'd get to talk to an interesting and diverse cross section of people. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:55 AM
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I'm a burnout gifted kid from an elite academic background who ended up working blue collar Most women who want a blue collar guy seem to think of some tall, jacked rugged macho tatted firefighter type or the handy tradesman dude who builds furniture as a hobby or is good at fixing stuff around the house. He's probably politically conservative, is big into sports, is Christian, etc. Me, I'm a UPS teamster, I used to sort boxes on conveyor belts, now I move trailers around in a freight yard. Phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:49 AM
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When I met my ex wife for the first time I accidentally spilled beer on her at a party and was hitting on her friend. The next time I encountered her I hooked up with another woman at another party the same night and sort of blew her off. Her friend told me she was into me though so I started to pursue her after that. I guess the moral of the story is women liked the toxic version of me better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:03 AM
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I like how you took that one and just ran with it. I know this sub likes to think introverts are all boring shut ins with no personality or are "pet rocks." It's not about that, but god damn, it sure would be nice to live in a culture that doesn't equate quiet confidence, thoughtfulness, and restraint (unless you look like the real life James Bond or Aragorn/Strider in LOTR) for a lack of personality while mistaking loudness, dominance, or constant performance for charisma, especially masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:36 PM
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Some men are introverted and don't have the personality of a high powered salesman or rock star?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:09 PM
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Because often it comes off as class signaling. Its an upper middle class hobby mostly. Are there different types and ways to travel, yeah but lets face it, no one is going to want to hear about me visiting a friend in rural Tennesee or driving a few hours away for a concert.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:39 AM
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I dont fit into any "box" of attractive masculinity/I'm not a "type."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:32 AM
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I'm guessing relating to the things you collect, you probably have considerable knowledge about those things. I imagine if I asked you about those things I'd learn something I didn't know by talking to you since you know far more about them than I do. Writing is definitely a skill, if you're a reader you surely know the difference between bad, mediocre, and great writing. Painting? Definitely a skill. Same for dancing. Do you design/build your own LEGO stuff or just build sets? Though I'm natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:50 AM
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As mentioned in a previous comment, I recently started playing guitar again. Like yeah it's fun and I'm not trying to be a professional musician, but I still want to get better at it, and getting better at it, playing stuff that I couldn't play before is part of the fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:45 AM
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Well I mean, I'd never show up like a slob, but irrelevant when you hardly ever get matches and the ones you do get ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:37 AM
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Shit, he may be lazy but he still at least got the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 11:49 PM
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I think it depends. I play guitar for example, and I'm not that great because I took like a 20 year hiatus, but I know some "amateur" musicians who can play at an *extremely* high level of skill, they often perform in bands and some record and release their own music. Hiking? Depends. Go on a short local trail for an afternoon, no, but hike the AT or PCT, or do a long multi-day section hike? Video games? I used to know some guys who traveled to Europe to compete in an international tournament. F…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:42 PM
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A man does something good, it's solely to his individual credit. A man does something bad, collective blame/responsibility
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/26 07:57 PM
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Even an anti capitalist system still has a hierarchy of people at the top
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:18 AM
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Hair down to my shoulders, guess Im just ugly...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:24 AM
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Show me a man who has power and I will show you a man who is most likely attractive to women. Not to mention how many women find leadership/dominance in men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:44 PM
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Plenty of women want a man to be their daddy, unfortunately. Why else are so many of y'all inclined to submissiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:55 PM
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Then why bother telling men to self improve if it won't even move the needle?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:53 PM
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Im a burnout former gifted kid who ended up blue collar. Im progressive and atheist. 2 year degree now plan to get my bachelor's but going to wait til I can retire from union job in a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:26 AM
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Dating for 25 year old me was much easier than now. Yet: You think the 25 year old version of me who had dropped out of college, could barely afford rent largely because he blew what little money he did make on dumb shit, was working two dead end retail jobs, who used red tape to fix the busted tail lights on his beater, who drank like a fish, who had no ambition aside from seeing whatever pissant local metal band was playing the next weekend, is *superior* to the current me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:14 AM
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My union job has a pension, but many women seem to consider anything that isn't "professional" or require at least a bachelor's to be "low status"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:10 AM
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What exactly do you want men to do about it to "hold accountable" these men? Have us all become law enforcement officers, prosecutors, prison guards? Batman style vigilante justice?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:14 PM
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Oh you are just so tough arent you? Look out, we've got a badass over here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:09 PM
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Tell that to women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:25 PM
2

Dems criticize Trump and Republicans for not serving constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:03 PM
5

Jason Momoa just has a superior personality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:48 PM
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It means the reactive person never has to take initiative aka sex would never happen otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:45 PM
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Yes because being tall is the end all be all characteristic of a species that, unarmed, loses badly to dog breeds half our size
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:43 PM
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One bombing attack in Iran killed multiples more women than ER did but our country fellates our military as paragons of masculine virtue and demonizes harmless lonely dudes by implying they are ER wannabes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:41 PM
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Im mid 40s and its worse than in my mid 20s, and in my mid 20s I was a fucking loser but still had more success
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:35 PM
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I dont think responsive desire is necessarily about being wanted instantly, more like how its on the non-responsive person to initiate constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:34 PM
2

Ive been single for 11 years following my divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:32 PM
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My photos on dating apps: Wearing suit and tie from when I was at a professional networking event in my state capital, full length photo Selfie when hiking Another hiking photo from farther away, I'm sitting on a big rock looking at the camera Me with a dog in my living room, dog is on her back and I'm leaning down giving her belly rubs and grinning at the camera Selfie indoors (no bathroom/dirty mirror involved) In my hiking photos I'm wearing a hat, but in the other ones I'm not so my hairline…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:47 PM
3

Dahmer was gay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:35 PM
3

Tutorials for pictures like "be attractive, don't be unattractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:56 PM
1

Ahh yes just reroll my character stats, easily done.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:55 PM
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Maybe they are just burnt out?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:34 PM
2

I could also win 9000 dollars in a slot machine like my uncle did but I probably won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:32 PM
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"You just need that one woman who is really into you." Like yes, to be wealthy, I should just invest in real estate. If depressed, just..stop being sad. Homeless? Just buy a house. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:31 PM
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I believe we voted to renew/affirm that resolution at the 13460937th Annual Male Convention last year?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:30 AM
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50% of men are smaller and weaker than the other 50%. And even then, being the biggest baddest dude out there wont make you immune to bullets, blades, blunt objects, being taken by surprise, or outnumbered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:12 AM
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Im a leftist, not a shitlib
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:19 AM
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This being the same Hillary Clinton who famously said "women have always been the primary victims of war."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:19 AM
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For other men yes, sure as hell not for me. Not in the 10 years since my divorce at least. Have women done nice things for me since then? Sure. But in the context of platonic or familial relationships only. Dating? Ive just felt like Applicant 27 for a job interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:33 PM
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People like you love to make assumptions dont you? Said many times on this sub I am mid 40s and divorced, not an incel or basement dweller
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:20 PM
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Dude plenty of unemployed or underemployed dudes out there have been a hell of a lot more successful than me. And when I was my most successful with women it was in my bum/loser era.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:12 PM
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Is she doing the same, or is it a one sided expectation?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:06 PM
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Most people have some debt, not many can buy a quality car outright let alone a house or a degree. But there is a difference between that and financing your furniture or PC or having 5 figure credit card debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:01 PM
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LOL you think it's because I'm broke. In reality I went back to school and changed careers in my 40's, the other job is union with God tier benefits and I'm just serving out the next 4 years until I can walk away from the place with a pension at the age of 51 while I remain in the new career until I fully retire. Busting that much ass also enabled me to be nearly debt free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:17 PM
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Okay then I actually agree with you on that. I mean, I've gone on road trips to cities a few hours away (not hard when you live in Texas lol) for concerts and shit, driven across the country a couple of times, and hiking/camping trips, as well as business travel but usually when I see women talking about traveling they mean the overseas, passport-requiring variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:08 PM
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Only top tier men qualify for the latter, in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:01 PM
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I already have 2 jobs and now you want me to take on a third, unpaid job where I have to put in disproprortionate effort into a relationship with a passive, lazy woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:00 PM
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And if he said he was 5'9"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:29 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DM6Yas_MWZE/?igsh=MWk1MmhxanRicXIxZg==
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:28 PM
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If tbey do travel, how much of it is funded by credit card debt?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:24 PM
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Bragging about frequent travel is indirectly bragging about having the money and time to frequently travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:19 PM
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Its also a hell of a class signifier, but I guess you left that part out...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:05 PM
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Yeah but those generic guys always seem to do better than me, a person who doesn't fit neatly into any particularly approved boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 05:01 PM
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I'm an introvert but don't hate going out - I just need a good reason to be there. For example, I love live music and local breweries
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:08 AM
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Am a man. Don't own any crypto, all my money is in index funds Business? One of my jobs Im self employed so yes by virtue of necessity, but I'm no MBA finance bro type Sports? Im more of a casual fan than die hard. Gaming? Less so now than I used to be. Gym? For fitness I mostly kayak and hike and bike. Never got what the deal was with anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:45 AM
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Ahh yes, introverts, famously with no free time to pursue interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:37 AM
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Ooh you like traveling, wine and dogs? And are fluent in sarcasm you say? And you like men with beards and tattoos? How "original."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:30 AM
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Yeah. To be fair I got lucky getting into my current field but I was patient and networked my ass off. Though Im kind of an oddball- I was the burnout kid with an elite academic background in my youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:25 AM
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I think there's a difference to be made between "entitlement" and "reasonable expectation"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:31 PM
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There are smart people who simply prefer working with their hands. There are people like me who have a full time desk job and a part time blue collar union job. They may be outliers, but they do exist
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:10 PM
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In my early 20s I had some success, mid 40s I couldnt get laid in a women's prison. And no I didn't lose all my hair, let myself go, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:07 PM
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Last time I was in a relationship it was 2015. A lot has changed since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:34 AM
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Dude looked like a skinhead and women claim to care about baldness lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:44 AM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:25 AM
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With Japan we stopped imminent starvation, didnt arrest the Emperor despite his and the Imperial Family's complicity and participation in war crimes, and let them build back into a democratic, prosperous, economic powerhouse, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:25 AM
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Is he tall, jacked, and stereotypically masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:17 AM
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Of course its a guy who has like the most stereotypically masculine and respected blue collar job humanly possible, and I'm sure the guys on the Hunky Firemen calendar dont lack for dates, but thats a very specific subset of "working class.:
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:16 AM
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What else would you call it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:02 AM
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White collar women think I'm beneath them, blue collar women I have little in common with. Fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:01 AM
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Those guys that do are often derided as broke or uneducated, though, so pick yer poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:34 PM
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I think most of the benefits veterans get should be extended to all citizens, at least in regards to healthcare and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:33 PM
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The problem is classism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:41 PM
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IDK, just...shit, if I'm less appealing than an actual scumbag, or apparently so ugly that said scumbag is preferable, fine. Just don't piss on my head and tell me its raining, then, is all I ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:40 AM
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Plenty of perpetrators dont lack for consensual sex either. Thats what I was getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:00 AM
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I'm aware there are many POS dudes out there. And also aware many of them are still more successful than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:20 PM
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Not him, and not hating on older women, but it's funny that older women liked me when I was in my mid 20's but now that I'm 45, the women my age seemingly wouldn't piss on me if I were on fire, and no, I didn't get bald or fat/gross either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:06 PM
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It's not common, but I have seen or heard it here and there. “That's the way with a cat, you know -- any cat; they don't give a damn for discipline. And they can't help it, they're made so. But it ain't really insubordination, when you come to look at it right and fair -- it's a word that don't apply to a cat. A cat ain't ever anybody's slave or serf or servant, and can't be -- it ain't in him to be. And so, he don't have to obey anybody. He is the only creature in heaven or earth or anywhere th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:23 PM
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I dont understand the stigma around men with cats either that some women have. Ive had a few cats over the years, they are good pets for someone who works a lot and lives in apartments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:29 PM
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And women think a 5 10 guy is short
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:27 PM
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I find that kind of weird too. Sex can be passionate, rough, intense, whatever without being kink or BDSM
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:36 PM
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I get the part about trying new stuff or not wanting routine. But I'm in a FB singles group and I swear to God the number of women who post memes about wanting to be choked or tied up or whatever - mind you, these are often professional women around my age - mid 40s - is surprising. Being dominant or into BDSM just sounds like a whole lot of work. Like having to make sex into a Big Production instead of just enjoying it. And as for me I already have 2 jobs. I'm just naturally a very live and let…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:35 PM
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Is anyone condoning what is happening there? Are men cheering for it? Do you know any men who are openly pro sexual assault? That said, what is to be done about it? I think here in the US we're full up on interventionist wars at the moment, or do you think we should start another one? Do you want men to become vigilante warriors or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:19 AM
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IDK why people find normal sex boring, it can still be passionate, fun, whatever, unless, to quote the meme, you need to have your leg caught in a bear trap while getting punched in the face to have an orgasm, and that's on you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:12 AM
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Im mid 40s. Im not a wuss, Ive done a job for 20 years most people cant hack including the jacked tatted up fuckers. I just dont have time for all the posturing bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:02 AM
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That sucks. Also it's weird that I've also seen several self described boss babe types say that within the context of the bedroom, they still want a dominant partner, so I suppose it could go either way? But as a man I often feel like if you don't take a dominant role either in bed, or out of it, of even both you aren't seen as masculine/attractive,broadly speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:11 PM
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I like craft beer and good bourbon and if a women is into that, cool, we have one more thing in common. I'm an introvert and a couple of drinks takes that initial edge off Most places I go (though not all) that involve socializing serve booze. Going for " a couple drinks" doesn't mean getting drunk/shitfaced, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:01 PM
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I'm a man and worry because I'm laid back, easygoing, despise any sort of power play/dynamics, and not particularly kinky, that I'll be thought of as boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:57 PM
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It sucks when you're a politically progressive (though more old school leftist than modern neoliberal) dude with only a 2 year degree and blue collar work history for 90% of your adult life though, feels like you're constantly being judged/looked down on
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:56 PM
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To be fair, everyone gets to be young, most people don't get to be tall
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:45 AM
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It's weird though becuase when I was in my 20s most of my partners were older women, but now at 45 women my age wouldn't piss on me if I were on fire, and I still have all my hair, didn't get a huge beer gut, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:41 AM
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Many women seem to regard a man without a university degree as beneath them or unsuitable though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:30 AM
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That new age word vomit "energy" shit makes me wanna hurl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:29 AM
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No worries, AI is making GPUs and RAM so expensive many dudes wont be able to afford video games as a form of escapism either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:51 PM
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If things continue to get worse the outcome isnt exactly sunshine and roses either, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:49 PM
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The only other alternative would be to force or compel people to take those jobs if no one did them willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:11 PM
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Yes because people have to earn a living? Again, as I said before, we can't all sit in an air conditioned office in a comfortable leather chair reading emails and entering data into Excel sheets. Society would cease to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:07 PM
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Those jobs have to be done. They are dangerous and undesirable, so logically the only way to ensure they would be done would be either to use the stick (force people to do them) or the carrot (make them enticing in some way - pay, benefits, status/respect, whatever) and I'd rather they use the carrot, myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:00 PM
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Civilians are not real men? Is capacity and willingness for violence the only thing that defines a "real" man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:58 PM
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Historically the vast majority of draftees were drafted into the Army, the best defense the US has is geography and by extension of that, the Navy and Air Force
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:56 PM
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You have no idea how modern industrial warfare works, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:54 PM
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Also if you think war filters out the "defective" men you have absolutely no idea how modern or at the very least industrial age warfare actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:47 AM
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Thinking civilians are "pussies" is a central tenet of fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:33 AM
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Often male civilians were killed too, in many cases because they were perceived as a bigger threat, or killed more slowly via forced labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:30 AM
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I'm a guy in his 40's, probably somewhere in the realm of average, and I would argue against this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:11 AM
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Average doesn't mean loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:43 AM
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Like it or not, humans respond to incentives, at least at a group level.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:37 AM
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If it were truly the bare minimum we wouldn't have so many successful assholes, since these people, as per your definition, would be below the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:22 AM
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There's probably a more tactful and respectful way to criticize the friend's dress, while still having her interests in mind, than saying "you look like shit"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:20 AM
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You're right, he should bring it up at the next meeting of his local chapter of the Penis Owner's Union
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:17 AM
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True but its not like men didn't engage in activities which required cooperation - hunting large dangerous game, warfare, building shelter, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:14 AM
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Loggers, roofers, truck drivers don't usually get paid that well. Some are misleading too, like pilots - yes someone flying for a major commercial airline will earn very well and is less likely to be involved in a crash, but that's a small minority of commercial pilots and most earn much less. Working in an oilfield can pay well but pay is often inconsistent due to boom/bust nature of the industry, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:57 PM
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Depends on the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:48 PM
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But *someone* has to do those jobs. We can't all sit at a desk in AC pushing numbers around in Excel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:45 PM
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I work at UPS, good paying union job if you're a driver with excellent benefits....we have people who have been there 40+ years and still not retiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:42 PM
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If I break up with someone I'm not married to, they don't get access to my 401K, Roth IRA, or union pension, for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:43 AM
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You can make a will or trust and give your assets to whoever you want, you can specify a named beneficiary for other things, you don't need to be married for that, same with power of attorney.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:39 AM
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How many women do you think are lining up to sleep with the average Joe, in your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:11 PM
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Or they think he is the straight equivalent of the "gay best friend" that is to say see him as asexual, not homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:03 PM
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"If you're homeless, just buy a house" energy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 11:27 AM
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Going to paste in my own comment here, from this very thread: "If you do bond with the kid(s), but split with the mother, you have no legal right or standing. You will most likely have at least some form of responsibility, but may lack any say in how the kid is raised, discipline, etc from the mother's POV and the "you're not my dad!" POV from the kid, since you aren't the actual parent." No moral judgment. It's not even gendered because a woman could say the same about single fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:58 AM
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Because sex is an enjoyable activity and relationships come with a long list of terms and conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:27 AM
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"Taking care of himself" won't make him 6'2", broad shouldered, immune to male pattern baldness, or change his facial features.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:18 AM
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I think it depends on the man, but it changes things. Teenagers are more self sufficient but also can have more drama, for example. But if I were going to date a single mother, I'd definitely prefer if the kids were older.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:40 PM
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If a guy in his 40s is dating a woman in his 40's, chances are the kids are older, at least somewhat self sufficient, and out of the house in a few years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:30 PM
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Yeah but then when you have someone with kids and someone who doesn't, there's a fundamental asymmetry. The person without children is expected to prioritize the partner, the one with prioritizes their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:56 PM
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If you do bond with the kid(s), but split with the mother, you have no legal right or standing. You will most likely have at least some form of responsibility, but may lack any say in how the kid is raised, discipline, etc from the mother's POV and the "you're not my dad!" POV from the kid, since you aren't the actual parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:19 PM
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Considering how much this sub routinely shits on male introverts, I am skeptical
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:03 AM
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The state of Texas alone is bigger than the entirety of France. In Europe you could throw a rock and hit 3 other countries by US standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:40 AM
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A toxic partner could weaponize or disclose anything you tell him or her, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:07 PM
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"Lenghty screed?" There are books out there well over a thousand pages long or encompassing series of multiple volumes. It took maybe a minute or two to read the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:38 PM
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Is partying at the club the only manner in which a man can be considered interesting or fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:18 PM
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I think it's more that our culture tends to sexualize toxic people and dysfunctional relationships, though its applied to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:14 PM
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I had the most success in my life when I was at my most unstable, unreliable phase, and the inverse is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:13 PM
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Blue collar works if you fit a certain stereotype. If you don't, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:26 PM
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Having shitty kids who you raise poorly or abuse or neglect makes the world actively worse and these people often grow up to contribute to collective misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:41 AM
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They'll become enshittified like everything else. Your sexual fetish will be paywalled DLC content, or any even any auxiliary non sexual functions you want from your robo-girlfriend will be paywalled too, amd they'll be collecting your data and selling it to corporations or feeding it to the police state
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:37 AM
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If he wasnt attractive anyway, whats the difference? What happens when you multiply a bigger number by zero?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:33 AM
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RAM too. Even escapism is getting unaffordable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:31 AM
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 07:44 AM
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Unarmed, humans lose to dog breeds half our size. If only we were tool using primates....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:24 AM
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No, even when my marriage was really going to shit (and not because of infidelity by either party) I didn't consider it. To me it is an ethical line I wouldn't cross. And when we got together I did have interest from other women, as I always say, women found me attractive in my mid 20s loser phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:51 PM
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Yet the government allows you to write off charitable contributions on your taxes because philanthropy is deemed a good thing. Do you refuse the deduction out of some high moral principles? Soldiers are expected to be brave, but they are awarded decorations for merit or exceptional heroism, or even for being wounded in action. Your boss expects you to do good work, but he or she might give you a promotion or a raise or make you employee of the month or whatever. If offered, would you again, turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:50 PM
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My other question is how big the earnings differential has to be for it to matter statistically. "Earns less" could mean a 2% difference or the guy is unemployed, and anything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:31 PM
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Well if he slams the door in your face at least he isnt a creep, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:21 PM
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So is it a progressive, feminist belief to think a man who earns less or is working class is dangerous or possibly evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:19 PM
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Im laid back, easygoing, and generally live and let live. But in my experience many women don't respect or arent attracted to a man who doesnt want to lead or be some type of dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:47 PM
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Its a significant minority though. Would a a 39% pay cut be insignificant?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:12 PM
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"Dad bod" to women seems to mean something like "fit guy who is on a bulk cycle" not average dad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:35 AM
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Because they are told they must have unwarranted, baseless, infinite self confidence or else be considered unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:37 AM
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So should working class men be automatically considered unworthy because they lack sufficient credentials? Do we not need plumbers, truck drivers, cooks, mechanics, construction workers, bartenders, et al? Or must all men work white collar email jobs now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:21 AM
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Or he just needs to find an acceptable male flaw, like alcoholism or serial infidelity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:07 AM
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I have enough of that stuff when I'm single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:40 AM
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Dozens of them, I am sure
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:13 PM
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Honda and Toyota are very popular brands, doesn't mean they aren't respected or don't have high resale value.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:55 PM
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I don't know if its insulting but its a role that carries a hell of a lot of responsibility, expectations, and obligations
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:53 PM
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Then society and culture should not insult or shame or look down on unpartnered people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:43 PM
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To be fair, many women do blame men collectively for the bad actions of a few, so its just the inverse of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:41 PM
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It's not just ugly men, it's average men too. So therefore, the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:37 PM
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This is where the curse of being "too weird for normal people, but too normal for weird people" comes in...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:20 AM
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And what if you're an introvert and don't blow people's doors off on an initial encounter, what is a guy supposed to do for a first date then? Its not that the guy might be interesting, but sometimes it takes a bit to warm over/let your guard down/take the edge off for introverts, but that doesn't mean they are fundamentally unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:11 AM
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Is being treated like you might as well be asexual preferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:08 AM
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So interested in going on a date and actually showing up, unless she's just bored or looking to kill time or whatever, but not interested enough in holding up her end of the conversation? Sounds like she's wasting both her time and his.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 12:06 AM
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Here women think if a man my age lives with a roommate like I do he's seen as a loser by women, no matter if there's a good reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:52 PM
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Strange how being intelligent, witty, having a good sense of humor, and genuinely curious about people doesn't seem to work for me these days then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:18 PM
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Depends what you mean by fun, and to many here "fun" seems like "performative extrovert"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:13 PM
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The latter attitude is precisely that which I imagine women who expect a man to always entertain them to have
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:59 PM
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And the ones that don't are often considered unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:14 PM
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I don't entirely agree with the OP, but sometimes its nice to do an enjoyable activity without an associated 17 page long itemized list of terms, conditions, responsibilities, and expectations, so to speak
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:08 PM
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So do women who expect men to entertain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:58 PM
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Otherwise known as the Matthew Effect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:22 AM
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That's fair, and I'm inclined to agree with you. You can be in good shape without making it an entire personality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:36 AM
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Bro I have one full time job and one part time job because the economy is such ass right now. Not a lot of time and energy for rock climbing or finding groups that actually work with my schedule
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:43 PM
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Is every man who goes to the gym a "gym bro?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:34 PM
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That's what happens when you actually get consistent positive feedback and validation, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:31 PM
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Because late stage capitalism is about captive markets, financialization and rent extraction, not innovation (unless related to financialization and rent extraction) and providing what customers want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 03:36 PM
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I'm decently funny and witty but I guess I'm just ugly because it never got me laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:15 AM
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Let's breed the working class out of existence, great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:11 AM
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I agree but in this economy I have to work 2 fucking jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:45 PM
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Man: exists Feminists: is this entitlement?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/26 09:24 PM
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I think of it like this: If I don't want to date someone who is Muslim or Jewish because I'm an atheist, that's one thing. But if I don't want to date Muslims because I think she is a militant terrorist sympathizer, or because I believe that Jews secretly control global finance through some conspiracy, it's quite another thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:42 AM
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Common reasons given to not date bi men is the belief that they are disease-riddled compulsive cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:46 PM
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I find it amusing that the party which constantly claims intellectual and educational superiority can't use that big brain energy to you know, actually win.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:24 PM
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Sorry, best we can do is schmooze with the Cheneys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:07 PM
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My grandfather had only a high school education and worked for the post office, nowadays many women would consider such a man a loser or beneath them. He and my grandmother remained married until death, had 4 children, and he was able to indulge in buying and flipping homes as a post-retirement hobby, and owned multiple cars and a boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:59 PM
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Men do use condoms, even get vasectomies in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:47 PM
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Yeah but hes in the literal meaning of the term, a genetically superior Chad, in the lore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:46 PM
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So we need to fill out Form 6392-5 Schedule A?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:29 PM
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I agree those men are hypocrites and idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:07 AM
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Lazy? My brother in Christ I already work two jobs, why would I want to add a third that doesnt even pay me? Sex is fun, last time I checked, why bring a massive list of terms and conditions and bullshit along with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:44 AM
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"These same guys hyperfocus on certain women, particularly the more sexually active" - oh no, a man wants to have a partner who enjoys sex, is sex positive, isn't ashamed of her sexuality, and isn't sexually repressed? The horror...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:33 PM
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You listed it right under autism, for one, and listed it along with several objectively undesirable qualities. AFAIK it's just a different personality type, not objectively inferior, except Western (especially American) culture is extremely biased towards extroverts and there are a lot of imho unwarranted negative assumptions made about introverts, I've seen many of them repeated on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:28 PM
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Introversion isn't a disability lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:21 PM
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Relationships involve lots of hard work, sacrifice, additional obligations, additional responsibilities, loss of autonomy, the constant need to compromise, additional drama, potential legal/financial entanglements, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:15 PM
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Men typically get validation in other aspects of life far easier and more often than they ever do on attractiveness or sex appeal. It's essentially the inverse of what women experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:14 PM
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Must be ugly as shit then because Ive been unmatched or even low key insulted because of (one of) my jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:31 AM
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You can create any product within limits of creativity or available technology. You cant alter your genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:39 AM
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I guarantee you a LTR partner would want me to spend more money and live a less frugal/minimalist lifestyle than I do currently
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:40 AM
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Is the more educated, intellectually superior side which can't seem to use all that big brain energy to secure a win?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 10:47 PM
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IF the guy was 6'4" would his behavior somehow be less objectionable?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 10:44 PM
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Well if being attractive as a short man requires massively overcompensating in other areas (where a tall man would not need to..)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:45 PM
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I've seen some really vile shit. I'm not bi, but imagine calling any other group of people disease-infested serial cheaters or that, heaven forbid, a man not be dominant sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:42 PM
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Have you ever seen the threads about how women view bisexual men in this subreddit? It's rather...eye opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:25 PM
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The latter paragraph, of course, carries the implication that being "nice" and attractive are mutually exclusive qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:24 PM
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When women ask why men don't take pictures for dating apps, dress better, etc, I think part of it is that most men get so little feedback, especially positive feedback, on their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:21 PM
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Are they celebrities with God-tier charisma, and probably incredibly good looking aside from the height?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:17 PM
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How many people have free jets to give out? Know any?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:03 PM
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No shit, captain obvious. But my point was, I didn't let myself go or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:01 PM
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Good thing women don't judge male hobbies and interests, or dismiss some of them as unmasculine, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:19 PM
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Insecurities in women are a) expected b) treated as a societal problem which needs collective action. Insecurities in men are viewed as indictments of personal character.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:18 PM
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Just recently I was having an engaging text convo with 2 different women on 2 different apps. There was wit, humor, different subjects mentioned. Then I had the audacity to go to sleep for 8 hours, and then the next day ghosted, the day after, unmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:04 PM
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Are womens interests limited to Taylor Swift and pop culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:02 PM
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Bullshit, I did better as a 20-something loser than I did in my 30s and 40s despite being objectively a better person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:02 PM
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Right, so since I've been focusing on getting my shit together and working hard and building a decent life for myself, rather than causing drama or engaging in toxic behavior, it's good to know that apparently women see that go "welp, he probably can't fuck." It does at least explain a lot. Just let me off this planet already FFS
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:26 AM
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When I was in my 20's I remember being on some of the alt lifestyle personals/message boards and damn near every single woman who had an interested in men specified "hung" or similar as what she was looking for, especially from single dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:21 AM
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I know many talented local musicians. They are in their 30's-50s and most have been playing since they were teenagers. Even the ones who do it as a hobby (most) have thousands of hours of practice under their belts. And on the other hand, when you go on social media these days there's some kid in elementary school playing Van Halen or Megadeth solos note-perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:51 AM
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Not knocking it. I play guitar myself. But if you tell a guy to do because it will make him more attractive, it isnt going to give him any ROI for a few years in a public setting or any kind of status that would make him attractive to women unless he's content playing very basic level stuff or has legit natural aptitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:07 AM
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Swinger women are size queens. Every. Single. One.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:51 AM
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Playing guitar well enough to be in a gigging band is a years-long investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:47 PM
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It's more like it's always the man having to make effort to be fun, to entertain, to pay for stuff, with little reciprocation on her part, that some men dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:05 PM
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How much self respect is it acceptable or reasonable to sacrifice to have a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:04 PM
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If a man doesn't need fixing, he's boring, I guess. We should stop sexualizing toxic, mentally unstable, and/or dysfunctional people. When my ex got diagnosed with bipolar disorder it sure as hell didn't make my sex life better contrary to the stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:04 PM
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Interesting that apparently you seem to be reducing masculinity to 1) solely physical characteristics and 2) visual conformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:56 PM
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The belief that men of previous generations were tougher, more manly, superior etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:07 AM
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I suppose the sarcastic intent was lost. Just sounds like "rich people problems" so to speak. Anyway, you can sort through umpteen thousand options complaining none are worthy, and someone like me can sit here reading books and having introspective thoughts and continuing to not get double digit matches in an entire year.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:46 AM
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Alright. Because I travel fairly often but not usually to places that exotic or exciting or glamourous so I don't really consider it a hobby, unless someone wants to hear about me seeing Iron Maiden in the next state over when they probably don't even like or care about metal, or that somehow visiting a recently retired friend in rural Tennessee would be compelling to them, or me going to the state capital to listen to a report from the House energy commission. Or about my camping trip to a plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:14 AM
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Yes and I hate when this giant stack of hundred dollar bills won't fit into my wallet, and I can't make up my mind whether to drive the Porsche to work or the Ferarri.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:09 AM
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That's an oddly conservative opinion from a blue piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:08 AM
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I don't think I'd match with 300 people if I had a thousand year life span.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:53 AM
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In my experience women who talk about "travel" don't count it unless it requires a passport.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:45 AM
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The problem is when you are always the one who has to initiate it feels like the other person is just going along with it passively, the implication being if you never started it nothing would happen and presumably that would be OK with her, when generally wanting something has a correlation with making an effort to get that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:57 PM
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I've been judged by multiple women for my living situation because I live with a roommate (not my parents or family)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 11:56 PM
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On one hand, you aren't wrong. But on the other hand, popular tropes are popular *for a reason*
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:23 AM
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Problem if you ask ten women you'll get ten different answers, usually
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:32 AM
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Magic Johnson was 6'9, played the same position as both of those guys, and is considered by many the greatest PG of all time. Luka Doncic is also a superstar PG at 6'7 in the modern era.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:30 AM
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She agreed on a date. But clearly I wasn't good enough and didn't make the cut. Maybe if I were tall and macho, I would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:49 AM
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One of my last dates which never went anywhere was with an attractive, intelligent accountant. She proceeded to, in the course of our conversation, say something about her ex boyfriend, who she was with for over 2 years. Despite being in his early 40s, he didnt work, and stayed home playing Xbox and smoking weed, and lived in her house. She finally got tired of it and kicked him to the curb - after 2 years. Mind you, she also mentioned he was 6'4 and ex military. So you know, still more attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:23 AM
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Ex wife was slightly taller than me (5 10 vs 5 11) but since my divorce Ive never had any luck and I got with her before swipe apps and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:45 AM
1

Much of that seems class-coded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:34 AM
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The Ghurkas are tiny dudes and one of the most feared/respected warrior cultures in the world, but it never stops from women saying a tall man makes them feel feminine and protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:31 AM
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When women say "tall, dark, and handsome" which quality is mentioned first?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:29 AM
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I'm quite sure not being a millionaire or movie star or whatever doesn't mean "underachieving loser" and there is some middle ground there, though in late stage capitalism it does seem it is moving in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:38 AM
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Or when you get to my age (mid 40s) you get to the point where if a woman has kids there's good odds that they are grown or at least teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:31 AM
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Neither end appeals to me. I'm far too independent or self contained to ever want to submit to someone and being dominant sounds like a third unpaid job to stack on top of the two paid jobs I already have, aka, too much work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:14 AM
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Many popular dude hobbies are actually money pits if you get into them heavily lol - cars, fishing (especially if you own a boat or are into expensive rods/reels etc), hunting/guns, playing instruments, expensive liquor, even gaming especially PC and some genres like racing or flight sims that require high end computers and often external hardware/peripherals
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:43 PM
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Depends, I know many guys in bar bands who gig occasionally on weekends, plus to get into it heavily you have to have money in the first place, the "40-something dentist/lawyer buying a PRS/Gibson Les Paul" is a meme for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:38 PM
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Well I'm introspective and generally prefer to live and let live, provided my boundaries are respected, but to many women apparently that kind of man is seen as boring or less manly. It's like if you're not dominant you must be submissive, when in reality some people just don't care for power dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:44 AM
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Men are expected to be decisive, dominant, and take the lead, probably why they are perceived as better at doing so...but they are perceived as less masculine (and often less attractive) if they aren't so inclined.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:32 AM
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Yes the belief that war was some sort of ennobling activity for men isn't exactly historically uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:28 AM
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Well right now I'm in the high 5 figure range and 6 is within probably year or so as I gain more experience in new career since I'm still making entry level rate. Never had a problem making people laugh. 6 pack? No but I'm not fat either. Dislike social media for the most part, it seems vain and narcissistic and I mostly just post memes I find humorous and concert photos/videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:27 AM
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Blue collar guy here. Nobody, nor any of my blue collar family or friends, called me a pussy when I told my co workers I was going back to college. Every single one was encouraging.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:12 AM
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Most dudes I know are aware nursing can pay quite well and is an in demand field. Teacher pay sucks and other things about the job suck too, but I've never heard a man ridiculed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:58 AM
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What's wild is how people talk about teachers unions as though they are some powerful force. I'm Teamster and in my state teacher's unions aren't allowed to strike or collectively bargain for economic conditions. As far as I'm concerned if you have no leverage and can't advocate for the most important thing, what's even the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:12 AM
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I just turned 46, prefer women in my age range. If I knew the answer I'd have the solution....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:05 PM
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I just think its interesting that in my early-mid 20's, when I was directionless, irresponsible, had no real ambition, drank too much, was terrible with what little money I made - I had success and met a woman I eventually married, which somewhat straightened me out, and by the time we split, I was the more functional of the two of us. I divorced at 35. Since then I went back to school, started a second career in my 40's, paid off all my debt and started squaring away my retirement, and still re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:33 PM
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I've improved a great deal since my divorce and remain single, but yet the time when I was successful with women was when I was at my objectively worst state.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:26 PM
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Neoliberal "meritocracy" theory is more or less the same thing, dressed in fancier clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:07 PM
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I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, I'd just prefer a more...secular option.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:44 PM
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Improvement is good, being held to unattainable ideals is not, constantly moving goal posts is not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:41 PM
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If feminism, generally, is associated with left leaning politics, why the conservative/libertarian "bootstraps" rhetoric, in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:36 PM
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Teachers need better pay, more autonomy, and less micromanagement by admins, right now it's a rather shit job and I don't blame people for leaving the profession or avoiding it, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:34 PM
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Never was a fan of all the spiritual woo woo new age nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:32 PM
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If women lower their standards for income they will just raise them for looks, status, charisma, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:43 PM
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Usually it is wise to study the enemy if you wish to defeat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:35 PM
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And the ones who cut trees, but don't look like lumberjacks, remain ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:33 PM
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Collective responsibility depends, I think, on the margin of support. There's a difference in winning 51/49 and 80/20....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:31 PM
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"Hard time create weak men" is often rhetoric and philosophy espoused by the far right. Fascists and Imperial Japan in the 1930s and 40s had similar beliefs and believed Western democracies were weak, effeminate, decadent, lacked warrior spirit, etc - and yet were defeated so decisively that they surrendered unconditionally and submitted to occupation and war crimes tribunals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:20 PM
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People have called out her favorable treatment by mods and constant topic spamming in her own threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:35 PM
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The mental health field is overwhelmingly dominated by women, for better or for worse. I recall wandering into a Reddit thread on a subreddit for therapists on the subject of why men are less likely to seek help, and many of the comments...well, let's just say, if they were representative of the industry as a whole, were...not encouraging and I feel badly for any man who puts his hard- earned money into the pockets of those individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:33 PM
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Homeless? Just buy a house! Depressed? Have you tried...not being sad?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:15 PM
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The problem with positions of power is they tend to draw precisely the sort of people who should probably never hold positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:42 AM
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Like 99% of fan fiction is written by women, it's hard to get more nerdy than that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:40 AM
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Most men receive almost no feedback on their appearance positive or negative, how would they be expected to know what works?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:15 AM
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And not all of those are violent offenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:09 AM
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Right. But it's not about the education or intelligence, intrinsically. It's all about status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:01 AM
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Why not? Stupid men are the ones they're into
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/25 02:01 AM
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No but if it's a shit market it might be hard for him to immediately find another job especially one that pays as well or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:53 PM
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The left used to advocate for the working class, not despise it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:49 PM
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Once upon a time the left used to draw much of its strength from groups like labor unions, but many modern liberal women seem to look down on a man who works with his hands and doesn't have a college degree, even if he makes decent money and is still relatively intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:44 PM
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Because as we all know, bookish intellectual men are the true sex symbols....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:43 PM
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So what's the point of being an average or even somewhat above average man if you're no better than an ugly one?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:38 PM
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Because it's binary with women, isn't it? You're a hero or zero, nothing in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:27 PM
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If she wants a friend or a roommate she could just ask for that instead
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:25 PM
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Depends? I had a good friend who was an ex felon, but his convictions were tied to his former alcoholism (multiple DUI) and as of now he's been sober for almost 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:20 PM
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What happens in a recession, or the man loses his job through no fault of his own like downsizing or bankruptcy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:19 PM
0

So what about those disqualified from military service due to something like underlying medical conditions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:45 PM
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The problem is these loser men/.shit fathers keep reproducing successfully and their children are more likely to emulate them. It's like Idiocracy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:23 PM
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Thomas Frank has a couple of books discussing the phenomenon as well, one on the modern Democratic Party and the other on the history of anti-populism in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:20 PM
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I'm a blue collar guy, progressive in many ways, yet I get the impression many liberal women would assume someone like me is dumb, unsophisticated, doesn't read, is broke, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:05 AM
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All they have to do is go back to their roots. Treat the working class with the smallest modicum of dignity and respect rather than as culturally problematic uneducated cretins who should stay in their lane and never question their betters, don't abandon genuine progressive policies for jumping into bed with the Cheney family, don't borrow every single page out of the original Republican anti-populist playbook, etc. Not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:59 AM
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It's that arrogant savior complex messaging that drives the working class from the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:59 AM
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Or being left back in the day was like guys in labor unions who weren't above beating the shit out of scabs, many were disgruntled soldiers, farmers, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:29 AM
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Much of the old school left consisted of farmers, factory/union workers, disgruntled soldiers, etc. Plenty of masculinity to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:28 AM
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What do you mean by liberal? Are we talking old school working class New Deal Democrat, who the party has largely disavowed, or modern neoliberals? The distinction is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:18 AM
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Hair loss is an overrated fear, I've got hair down to my shoulders and it seems most women would rather be with a shaved head/bald guy than one with long hair like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:58 PM
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I've had people tell me I look much younger than I am. Not 15 years younger, mind you, but it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:57 PM
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Does your profile give enough for the guy to go on to base a individualized message ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:37 PM
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To send a thoughtful message, one must match first
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:36 PM
2

Ick is a word used by women whose ex was unemployed for 3 years ghosting a guy because he chews weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:55 AM
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It's so fucking expensive where I am I work 60-70 hours a week right now, though this is largely by choice and I'm almost debt free. But the cost of living here is no joke, not a lot of time/energy/bandwidth for working class people to socialize much
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:35 AM
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Maybe they've internalized all the negative messaging. Doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:35 AM
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There are introverted celebrities, politicians, CEO's, military leaders, etc. But introvert PR in the US is simply awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:51 AM
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At least the right on the surface offers a path to dignity, misguided as it may be. The left is like Christianity - it talks about original sin, but unlike Christianity, offers no path of redemption or forgiveness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 03:35 AM
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Anyone who says that should then refuse/forfeit any sort of bonus, reward, commendation, promotion, etc recieved in any area of his or her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:17 AM
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There are so many negative introvert stereotypes it poisons the discussion. The West and especially the USA is extremely biased towards extros, but that's not true of all cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:23 AM
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CEO's don't (usually) kill people directly but the modern late stage capitalist philosophy and culture of pursuing continuous short term growth at the expense of everything else has some incredibly nasty side effects...look what the MBA's did to Boeing for example and people did die because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:28 PM
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Military can be great if you aren't genetic trash like me who couldn't join because of some medical shit I had no control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:29 AM
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You just gotta show her your government ID, home address, social security number, employment info, and credit cards, then she'll believe ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:57 AM
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Who needs the working class, anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:39 AM
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Downside: the only men reproducing will be finance bros, influencers, soundcloud rappers, criminals, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:19 AM
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"Boring" is a term used by those too vacuous to entertain themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:08 AM
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I've been unmatched more than once because I mention working night shift for UPS. A union job with excellent benefits and a pension, mind you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 03:02 AM
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Probably because shift work or unusual schedules are associated with "lower class" men...sort of the elephant in the room here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:17 AM
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Yes but good luck trying to do that when you're an introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:11 PM
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I work 2 right now. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Houses in my city average like 400K. I'm like upper 5 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:10 PM
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Usually depth is something discovered over time and repeated exposure. These days if you're a man in the initial dating process if you can't wow her from the beginning you're expendable and replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:07 PM
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Because for men you basically have to be god tier, like a celebrity, or a 9/10 in looks, or charisma, or status, or some combination of the above, to ever experience a woman "throwing herself at you." For the average guy it's a fairy tale or some fantasy daydream thing, especially when you see women reacting to men like that in person (but never to you)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:56 PM
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But apparently a loser because I can't afford a house in this economy, or have to work 2 jobs, or only have a 2 year degree, and prefer a more minimalist lifestyle because I prioritized paying off debt and setting myself up for retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 08:51 PM
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My job is unionized. Pay is clearly set out in the CBA and based on job classification and seniority. If you are a woman who is getting paid less or offered fewer hours,, etc than a man with lower tenure or different classification, it's an easy grievance and you can get penalty pay too on top of what you are retroactively owed, even outside of legal remedies. That said, I'm not sure if women would consider my job/employer undesirable or "beneath" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:04 AM
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I've done a lot I'm proud of over the past few years, but I feel like the goal post just keeps moving so it's always just out of reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:57 PM
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Traded for the possibility of hair loss and erectile dysfunction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:42 PM
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A man seen as weak or nonthreatening isn't respected or valued either though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:41 PM
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It's more a function of late stage capitalism than gender politics. There's been deindustrialization, weakening of unions, inflation of credentialism, emphasis on short term growth at expense of long term health, and now automation and AI, combined with rising inflation/cost of living that's been fucking workers over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:31 PM
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Humans, the relatively weak species who are only successful because of intelligence and superior technology?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:46 PM
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Or they want an ambitious and successful man who also somehow has infinite time and energy to entertain and pay attention to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:44 PM
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No but perhaps he is saying that introversion isn't a character flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:42 PM
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Similarly with wanting to remove the electoral college in the US. I understand the criticism (and I'm in favor of removing the first past the post rule for example) but having a small group of large population centers dominate national government while also being favor of centralizing power at the national level just means that rural or small state citizens can basically get fucked and have no one willing or able to look out for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 12:44 AM
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Or if a man owns a gun, or drives a big truck, or owns a sports car, more popular with right and working class men, he's "compensating for something"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 12:28 AM
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Its a detrimental belief to be sure, but expressing it goes against expected gender roles, which is unattractive to many women, so sometimes you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:01 PM
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I'm not arguing our cultural scripts don't suck. But I do think most men want to feel wanted on some level by our partners even if we're taught it is unmasculine to voice such an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:38 PM
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Unfortunately it seems many women think a man not inclined to sexual dominance is less attractive or less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:34 PM
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I think many men do want to feel wanted. Two fairly common male complaints are lack of reciprocation of effort early on in the dating process and their partners rarely or never initiating sex, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:31 PM
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I know a few. Best friend is a woman with 3 Masters degrees. Recently I pivoted into a more white collar career doing mineral title in oil and gas but that tends to lean a bit more conservative, and while I've met women land professionals and title attorneys and the like at networking events, most in this industry tend to be partnered up, especially in my age bracket (mid 40s.) Of course I've got no issue working in renewables which probably leans more progressive, but when you're new like I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:47 PM
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There's a fun thing about being the poster child for burnout gifted kid from an elite academic background who ended up blue collar: the smart progressive women think you're beneath them, the more blue collar types think you're too nerdy/not masculine enough or you have little in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:25 PM
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Been there, done that, got the number, then got ghosted anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:20 AM
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What about being easygoing and chill?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:46 AM
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Wake up everyone, time for the daily Lilith post
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:09 AM
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Two incomes are still greater than one, regardless of specific amounts involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:53 AM
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So its about semantics, not substance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:09 PM
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High achieving ambitious men often have to work more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:40 PM
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Women want an ambitious successful man who works like 30h a week
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:12 AM
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Women liked me better when I was a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:00 PM
2

Well it's kind of the reverse implication of that, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:58 PM
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More like I've worked physical jobs my whole life and I've seen jacked tall tatted up guys who didn't last 3 days working next to me and unimpressive dudes be total beasts, so I'm not as enamored by appearances as some.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:50 PM
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So when a woman complements my character, admires what Ive managed to do in the past few years, she also thinks Im too boring to be a good fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:01 AM
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I'm a man and more lean than jacked, and average height, I don't think anyone cares I'm not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:54 PM
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Our society does sexualize toxic and dysfunctional people and behaviors, in both genders. I wish it would stop doing it, but it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:53 PM
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Well I wouldn't want to be responsible for the Vietnam War either
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:25 AM
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Ironically many of the baddest men aren't the biggest or most imposing. The SEALS (or other spec ops) don't have a height requirement, the Ghurkas are physically tiny dudes yet one of the most respected warrior cultures in the modern era....Simo Hayha and Audie Murphy were tiny, Draper Kaufman (who founded the UDT frogmen who were the ancestor of the SEALS and earned 2 Navy Crosses) was a badly nearsighted man who looked like a professor, if you look at photos of those guys they aren't roided ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:25 AM
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I'm not showing anyone dick pics to win an argument lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:12 AM
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Nowadays many people have 2 jobs or a job and a side hustle just to afford basic expenses, it cuts into your time and energy bandwidth for socializing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:13 PM
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Own an AR-15? Small dick (funny they never say it to soldiers or cops), Own a large pickup truck or sports car? Small dick
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:06 PM
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If I'm the biggest loser you know, you must not know many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:18 PM
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Been to hundreds of live music gigs in my lifetime, everything from stadium headliners to dive bar cover bands. Was active in local metal scene. Was head organizer for a local meetup group. Ive probably tried every locally made craft beer I can get my hands on at various establishments. Reaaonably active member of several local FB singles groups. However, I am something of a workaholic which I realize works against me, but I'm no hermit. Still single 10 years after my divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 08:45 PM
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In 2024 I spent a few weeks section hiking part of the AT and I'm not exaggerating when I say that every single hiker I met was friendly and chill, regardless of age or gender, and extremely willing to help each other out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:36 PM
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It usually means to them a "real man" is just someone who mindlessly conforms and never opposes the status quo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/25 12:21 AM
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The average freight train in the US according to very brief research is about a mile long and weighs 14,000 tons, if someone told me they were in charge of/responsible for that, I suppose if I were a woman that absolutely would never even arouse the slightest spark of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:57 PM
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Interesting how classism isnt viewed the same way as sexism, racism, nationalism, etc by neolib PMC types
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 10:41 AM
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How much do you think this is due for men being much more harshly shamed if they lack confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:56 PM
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Recoil for something like a handgun is quite negligible in the grand scheme of things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:27 PM
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I have no desire for a partner who has no free will and is basically a slave, which is what a non-sentient AI GF essentially would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:02 AM
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These religious texts can be found free in the public domain. Anybody can read them. They aren't gatekept.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:47 AM
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You'd be surprised how many women I know have dated bum/loser guys. Yes some of those women are themselves losers, but by no means all of them. Some of the biggest "Chads" I know at least somewhat fit the bum/loser description. I myself did better with women in what I'd call my "loser phase."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:15 AM
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Back in the early 2000s I did okay with women. Since my divorce in 2015 I gather I'm now some loser as far as women are concerned. And no I didn't let myself go physically and I'm more ambitious, more accomplished, harder working, but apparently less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:10 AM
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What in the year of our Lord 2025 makes a man's height actually relevant in any sort of survival metric, given that we're not spear-chucking cavemen and have not been for thousands of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:07 AM
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White collar jobs also can suffer from market saturation. One of the appeal of trades is less education debt or apprenticeships that pay while you learn. If we want to build more affordable housing we are gonna need carpenters, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc. because there is a shortage and many of the current ones are aging out of the workforce. Also a shortage of welders, heavy equipment operators. Auto mechanics as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:00 AM
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The same coal miners neoliberal journalists suggested to "learn to code?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 10:38 PM
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Interesting how so many of your posts are essentially gatekeeping what men are allowed to consider "real" problems. As if every man is expected or required to check in with you, specifically, and ask if his issues or concerns are "legitimate" or not and ask for your sanction or blessing. And I guess what makes me curious is: by what credentials or sources do you derive such authority?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:54 PM
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"visibility of butt cheeks" seems like a phrase I should try to somehow work into casual conversation...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:57 PM
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AI which constantly kisses your ass and has no intrinsic mind, will, or motivation of its own would be terribly boring to interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:11 PM
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I work at one of those companies that still has things like a pension but it's been going downhill at an accelerating rate especially over the last few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:56 PM
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Or she's probably in debt to her eyeballs, has nothing in her retirement savings, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:40 AM
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Conversely, my ex wife's bipolar diagnosis didn't improve our sex life somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:38 AM
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Isn't it nice and a great message to tell levelheaded people, of either gender, who are sane and have their shit together, that they're doomed to be boring in the sack?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:37 AM
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Interesting, because being jacked and huge is one kind of being in shape, but so is being lean and having stamina/endurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:35 AM
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Digging around in a cursory manner on the internet, several articles have referenced research that indicates that in 1830, the average American consumed 7.1 gallons of pure alcohol per year, which is about 1.7 750mL bottles of 80 proof liquor every week, or 32 cans of 4.5% beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:30 AM
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I'm 45, by sheer statistical probability any woman in my age range has had more than one partner outside of unusual exceptions, and those would probably be religious or ultra conservative, in which case she would not be an ideal partner anyway so the point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:20 AM
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For what it's worth I think any may who expects a formerly chaste or virginal woman to magically become a porn star sex goddess the instant she enters a relationship with him is an idiot, and this is coming from a man. I don't have any issue with women who sleep around as long as they don't lie or cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:19 AM
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"Women have always been the primary victims of war"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 04:33 AM
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In that period was when I met my ex wife, we were together for 9 years. I divorced in 2015. Since then, no luck finding anyone, despite going back to college in late 30s, starting a new career in my 40s while still hanging on to my old job so I can get my pension, fixing my finances, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:36 PM
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Those guys are assholes, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:33 PM
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Weird, at the time of my life when I was the most rudderless and least ambitious was when I had the most dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:32 PM
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I'm just imaging you want to fuck but a 100GB patch just dropped and now you have to wait for the download/install. Oh and if you want kinky shit you have to pay for the Fetish DLC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:12 PM
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I never understood the belief that intelligent educated men are somehow unmasculine, in a species that is completely reliant on superior intelligence
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 08:13 AM
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Most people have insecurities. Yet in women it's understood, tolerated, or treated as a problem to be solved, while for men it's a personal character failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:33 AM
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About your maternal grandfather - one thing I've observed being a WW2 history nerd, especially regarding the Pacific Theater, is that a surprising number of the most talented and accomplished senior officers of that time were essentially ultra-high-functioning alcoholics and drinking culture was very prevalent even among high ranking officers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:56 AM
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The women who participated did so willingly. They weren't Admiral Fitzgerald's subordinates who were compelled to obey his orders, he was not their employer, nor were they compensated by him or the Royal Navy or government to do so. It started as a local incentive, rather than a top-down national directive, and spread rapidly and organically throughout the nation. It caused a rift in feminist groups because many (thought not all, hence the rift) feminists and suffragettes were active and outspok…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 12:35 AM
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And many women who post here think a tradesman without a university degree is beneath her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:35 PM
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I read all the time, just not usually fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 10:49 PM
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Unions have done far more for the working class than some rando who offed one asshole CEO, but I've never had a woman want to bang me because I'm a 20 year Teamster...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 10:37 PM
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I think a million in assets like retirement accounts or home value isn't unheard of for middle class or highly paid working class. A million in liquid cash in a checking or savings account, less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:50 AM
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For people who romanticiz the notion of lifelong true love, I can't help of thinking of my paternal grandmother. My grandfather preceded her in death by about 3 years, and in those last 3 years of her life, the only thing she would ever talk about was how miserable and lonely she was after he died and she was left on her own. In a way her own death could be viewed as merciful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:42 AM
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You complained men were "fucking around" by going outside and doing things/socializing instead of being on their sigma grindset 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:41 PM
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"How are you supposed to meet women if you're always grinding and hustling?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 02:28 PM
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So now men having hobbies and friends is a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:56 AM
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My ex wife was like that. She kept a group of friends around who were completely toxic, dysfunctional people just because they had known each other since grade school.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:24 PM
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Maybe he's just introverted and likes to keep a small but very tight circle of close high-quality friendships, like many introverts do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:21 PM
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Dress code almost always prohibited boys from having hair longer than a certain length as well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 01:29 AM
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I guess if I were the guy you were replying to my thought would be "well goddamn, how ugly must I be if it even cancels out the funny part?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:00 AM
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IDK. I have confidence in my ability at various jobs because I've always had a good work ethic and I've received generally positive affirmation in the workplace. I was a gifted kid growing up so received a large amount of positive affirmation in that area too, to the point where going back to college in my late 30's I still felt like I could do well even after being out of a classroom for decades. I've never been particularly good with women so yeah I'm less confident in that area.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:54 AM
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I think there's room for masculinity on the left, but less so on the dominant neoliberal ideology which passes for the more leftish option in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:22 PM
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I'm not, and never have, advocated for forced sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:05 PM
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I don't think that advice works for everyone. It can work for some, but not everyone. Dunning-Kruger showed that people with lower ability often overestimate their competence because they lack the insight to be aware of their own limits. Whereas more intelligent or introspective people are often painfully aware of what they don't know, or aren't good at, which tends to temper their confidence. When you tell the rational, introspective, intelligent person to "fake it til you make it" it leads to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:05 PM
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Back then if you got her number you weren't also competing with the guys in her social media DM's, Tinder/Bumble, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:49 PM
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I'm economically progressive. I've been a union member for 20 years. I've also been single for a decade after my divorce and it sucks feeling like I'm some unfuckable, undatable loser all of the sudden. Both of these things can coexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:46 PM
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When I had the most luck dating in my 20s I was also broke, working dead end jobs, had no ambition worthy of the name, drank way too much, was financially irresponsible and basically a leech. In most ways I'd consider it the low point of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:41 PM
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I'm starting to feel like people aren't actually reading what I wrote, just reacting to what they think I said. Nowhere did I say I wanted to date someone boring. Obviously I want someone I find engaging and fun to be around. The point is about expectations. I'd never lead with a demand that a woman "entertain" me, yet that's often the energy men get from women now. That it's our job to keep things fun, interesting, and stimulating while she just shows up and judges your audition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:39 PM
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It's not about being boring. It's the implication that I, as the man, am always supposed to be the one providing fun or entertainment in a one-sided manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:36 PM
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It's the one sidedness that I take issue with. It's often phrased in a "what are you doing for me" way. And often gender roles either directly state or imply that the man has to be the active partner and the woman is allowed to be passive. Which means the man always has to be the one to initiate, to plan, etc. It's not that men don't want to have fun or be thought of as interesting, its that don't want to be the only one making effort to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:34 PM
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Those things are getting more expensive by the day, relative to wages of all but the wealthiest percentage of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:28 PM
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Confidence can also be situational though, just because you are good at one thing doesn't mean you are good at another, completely unrelated thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:13 PM
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The dancing monkey thing is more about how a woman seems to insist that it is the man's job to constantly entertain and stimulate her, both in a very one-sided manner and with the implication that she is incapable of entertaining herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:08 PM
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I swear to God you would have only slightly worse luck showing up in a SS uniform introducing yourself on a date as Obersturmbahnnfuhrer Himmler than being even slightly awkward or ND as a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 06:59 PM
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With metal the men to women ratio depends quite heavily on the subgenre, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:55 AM
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Seems like way more women who are into astrology, witchcraft/new age stuff, or most kinds of woo-woo, too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:27 AM
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Imagine thinking our hyper consumerist culture is a good thing, anyway.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 01:21 AM
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To me the biggest issue is class, not race, gender, culture, sexual orientation, etc, and the latter issues are favorite ways of neoliberals, who have pushed actual economically progressive leftists out of power, and find them a good way of distracting from the former.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 01:20 AM
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:36 PM
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A man who starts fights willingly and without provocation is a fucking idiot. It's a great way to get stabbed or shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:50 AM
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There are groups directed at awareness/prevention of veteran suicides, but perhaps that is because our society gives soldiers more respect than civilians.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:48 AM
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Height is of no importance in 2025, yet men are still judged on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:47 AM
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Many people seem perfectly fine with innocent deaths so long as the killer is wearing a uniform.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:42 AM
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It's not about the dollar amount. I do OK but I work hard for it. It's about effort vs. results. I'm a busy guy. I work 2 jobs, I have a lot going on. I don't like to waste time. When I was a 25 year old loser it was much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:38 AM
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The issue is the expenditure of time and money for no results. If I had stayed home the outcome would have been exactly the same except I'd be $200 richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:20 AM
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So I went to a Halloween party last Saturday for a big facebook singles group I'm in. I had several women flirt with me and got several numbers. I followed up with each, one even texted me first - and Every. Single. One. Ghosted/Flaked. It's that kind of shit that kills confidence, like even if you seem to get interest, it won't actually mean anything and probably goes nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:12 PM
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So, I have 2 jobs. 1 as an independent contractor where I contribute to a solo 401k. Also contribute to 401k from my pt union job, which has excellent benefits including "cadillac" insurance. Said union job will let me retire and start collecting pension after 25 years of service, with for me will be age 51, while I can still continue with the other career. Also have a Roth IRA and some other stocks. I have almost no debt and live a rather minimalist lifestyle. Yet according to many women becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:05 PM
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Plenty on the left side insist the working class or minorities should never be disarmed Many are aware mass immigration is often used to depress working class wages and undermine unions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:55 PM
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Plenty of neoliberals supported our military adventures
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:46 PM
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The right embraces men then stabs them in the back. Neolibs don't bother embracing them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 04:44 AM
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Is it negativity toward leftism, or neoliberalism?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/25 11:42 PM
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I'm mostly laid back, easygoing, and chill. I get the impression many (not all, many) women see that as "boring." Power dynamics either way has no interest for me. I'm ultimately a "live and let live" guy but in my experience women want to be dominated/led either in the bedroom or outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:56 PM
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Plenty of stupid people have self confidence. The smart ones are introspective and know their limitations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:52 PM
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Though women don't seem to think much of a man who doesn't care about dominance or hierarchy, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:46 PM
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Because being a professional urban white collar spreadsheet jockey often pays better than essential blue collar work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:43 PM
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Conservatives also love the military, which gives subsidized healthcare, housing, GI bill, preferential treatment for federal jobs, etc and is centered around a rigid authoritarian hierarchical structure which demands absolute obedience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:37 PM
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In most animals big dumb brute force is the only thing that matters. Humans are weak as shit but also smart as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:28 PM
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Except humans are physically incredibly unremarkable and are only successful because of our superior intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 10:27 PM
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I had a few dates but none of the ones that I thought went relatively well/was attracted to ever went anywhere/amounted to anything. A couple were pretty obvious red flags so I noped the fuck out. But still. I wasn't chasing supermodels either. I don't even have a hard physical type, per se, I tend to be attracted on an individual basis, and I value intelligence, work ethic, humor, and personality too but again, my standards in those areas aren't crazy high I don't think. It just seems like thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:53 PM
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I've been single for 10 years since my divorce. If I'm the ugliest man in a metropolitan area of 8.3 million people, that must truly be impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:55 PM
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Are you surprised that the gender constantly told they must be confident or else overestimates themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 07:26 PM
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If a guy doesn't come off as sexual enough though that can also turn a woman off
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:16 PM
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"You ever had a song/album you only liked after a couple listens vs. one you liked on the first listen?" These days people just hit the skip button or change the station, rather than stick it out, so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:34 PM
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Small vs big dick energy may not be meant to be taken at face value, but it still carries within it an incredibly obvious implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:53 AM
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It depends what you mean by "decent". Does that mean purely in terms of money, debt to income ratio, status/prestige as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:28 AM
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To be fair, many women have a negative perception of introverts too. In our culture they don't get very good press, so to speak. I think the biggest issue introverts have, especially men, is difficulty selling themselves in the initial phases. It seems like we're wired to want instant chemistry, "love at first sight" etc where introverts do better on repeated exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:50 PM
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That's why the best defense is to avoid a bad situation. You don't know if the other guy has a weapon, or years of training, or 5 buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:08 AM
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More like they think he stands a chance against a 9mm hollowpoint or 00 buckshot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 06:23 AM
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Because they are morons
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:15 PM
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Imagine height matters that much. Imagine thinking Audie Murphy wasnt a real man. The triple digit "Aryan supermen" he killed had a misguided belief in their inherent genetic superiority, look where that got them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 10:37 AM
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I get it but on the other hand I don't think finance bros, soundcloud rappers, sportsball players, social media content creators/influencers, or marketing execs are going to do much about things like wealth inequality, global warming, looming WW3, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:41 AM
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Because humans are successful because of our physical gifts /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:41 AM
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Because smart people can't be interesting? Have you ever had a conversation with a genuinely dumb person?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:40 AM
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Too bad, society would be far better off with more PhDs and fewer MBAs....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:26 AM
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I was gonna say I don't think most typical guys would do the stuff described in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 11:46 PM
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Would those things somehow be more acceptable and less heinous if he were 6'4"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 12:39 AM
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Or maybe you survive, but with severe and permanent wounds
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/25 11:58 PM
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Anyone who starts talking about "energy" or "divine feminine/masculine" is a massive red flag, it's hippy dippy woo woo bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:10 PM
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Yet nerds are often above average in education, intellect, and income, depending on the type of nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:37 AM
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If she unironically utters the phrase "fEmInInE eNeRgY" I'm turning around and walking the fuck away. Get outta here with that new age woo woo bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 01:56 AM
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Mass shootings aren't the majority of homicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:39 PM
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Well if a guy is into nerdy stuff instead of men chasing balls, he's stigmatized for that too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:53 PM
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What about women who insist on being submissive and passive? That's childlike to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:21 AM
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On this sub merely being an introvert is considered a flaw, especially if you are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:37 PM
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I think it's more like there is a finite amount of time and energy a person has in a given day, and after things like work, sleep, doing necessary stuff like cooking or chores, etc, it's important to prioritize your discretionary time, so putting forth a huge amount of effort for minimal gains is incredibly inefficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:40 PM
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Organized labor in the US used to be one of the strongest Democrat base constituencies. You know, the people they call dumb, uneducated hicks nowadays. The pivot away from that base to the professional, managerial, educated, technocratic voting block was intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:48 PM
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The Thomas Frank I was referring to has written several books on American political culture. He's a historian by education and was also a journalist. He writes from a left populist perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:38 AM
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Good points. I'd also add under Clinton we had NAFTA , repeal of Glass-Steagall, his welfare reform and crime bills, and then Obama's handling of the 2008 housing crisis (bank bailouts, lack of criminal prosecution), and others. Are you familiar with Thomas Frank's writings by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:48 PM
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Call the working class uneducated, yet pay huge sums of money for those they look down on to do their plumbing, electrical work, renovation projects, fix their cars, etc. Surely if it were so easy and required so little education, skill, or knowledge, such higher specimens of humanity could easily learn to do a superior job themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:35 PM
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Too bad the Dems are dominated by center-right neoliberals rather than economically progressive leftists and the US system allows for only 2 viable parties at the national level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:23 PM
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Because they are expensive and they dont make you a rebel or tough guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:19 PM
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Nope, I know guys who got sober later in life that still get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:37 AM
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Our society despises nerds and intellectuals and reveres dumbass athletes, actors, musicians, as the peak of desirability
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:36 AM
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If I'm facing a long prison sentence or worse I don't want to have to be a pro se defendant...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 11:32 PM
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Depends on the lawyer. I mean having prosecutors or criminal defense attorneys is a good thing, as well as judges. But yeah, everyone loves to say how much they hate nerds and how undesirable they are, while using their smartphone to post on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:02 PM
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Men are constantly told we must be confident in order to be considered attractive. If a man says he doesn't have reason to be confident, he gets told to fake confidence he doesn't have. Is it really that surprising then if men overrate themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:32 AM
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Can't do that for another 5 yrs because of my union job and pension requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:54 PM
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I live in one of the largest metro areas in the US. It's in the south but exploding cost of living and we've always had tech and corporate presence here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:22 PM
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I'd advise women not to get married either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 08:49 AM
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I said "relatively" especially when you consider Ukraine's western backers. Modern Russia is a shadow of the military/economic power the Soviet Union was, though..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:59 PM
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Right but between relatively evenly matched powers it often devolves into a war of attrition, whether of manpower or material resources,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:45 PM
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Usually if the war drags on enough standards go out the window, the "old men and boys" soldiers of late war Nazi Germany come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:20 PM
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But the fun stuff "coincidentally" takes a distant back seat?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:43 PM
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"Move on".when their relationship is about splitting bills and retirement investments amd other drudgery rather than actually.enjoying their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:28 PM
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Right people I know well are all secretly lying to me when speaking in confidence to someone they consider trustworthy....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:05 PM
2

People seem to do it about me all the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:55 PM
-1

Women only liked me when I was a dysfunctional 20 something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:54 PM
6

Being the laid back live and let live guy, I call mega bullshit. When I was the dysfunctional 20-something idiot women LIKED me but I hated myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:52 PM
3

So if y'all are so few in number as to be literal unicorns, what's the fucking point? Might as well bet my retirement on buying lotto tickets while I'm at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:50 PM
4

Of course I never talk to people I know and they never tell me anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:38 PM
-2

Do you want a medal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:35 PM
4

Cool, I bet in my major metropolitan area there might even be double digit numbers of women like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:34 PM
4

Porn? This is from lived experience from people I know. Being understated, laid back, etc just means you get overlooked for the flash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:33 PM
3

Please - y'all don't respect a man if he isn't "alpha" and doesn't take charge. If he's laid back and live-and-let-live or doesn't at least want to dominate you in the bedroom, you consider him unmasculine and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:15 PM
11

Being a husband carries with it a long list of obligations, compromises, and responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:13 PM
3

In my experience your type is fine with conservative dudes if he is tall, jacked, and has tattoos
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:12 PM
6

As if women respect men who don't desire power?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:11 PM
-1

Toxicity/dysfunctionality is correlated with being good in bed, so I would beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:10 PM
1

Just keep grinding bro
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:59 PM
2

The venn diagram of music I like and music you dance to is 2 circles separated by about 6 miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:48 PM
0

Men are expected to be competent in order to be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:47 PM
0

Problem: women liked me when I was a train wreck but now I have my shit together they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:35 PM
3

Also no one we've been at war with since 1945 has been even remotely capable of being an existential threat to US territory or sovereignty, and even then Nazi Germany and Japan weren't really capable of that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:33 PM
3

My point is it is a symbiotic relationship, yet only one side gets respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:23 AM
3

Without the civilian economy the US wouldnt be a military superpower
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:26 AM
4

When they act like they are better than civilians for being willing tools for imperialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:06 PM
6

God forbid a man might want his partner to be horny for him or think he is sexy...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:05 PM
1

Dogs are pack animals too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:20 PM
1

Unarmed, we get destroyed by pit bulls/Dobermans/German Shepherds half our size.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:50 PM
1

Yes but it's still hilarious when you consider how humans are quite pathetic when it comes to physical attributes, and the ability to use technology/superior intelligence is the only reason we are successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:31 PM
2

Yet women are still obsessed with muscles and height etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:23 PM
4

Conversely, single I can live a much more streamlined, lower-cost lifestyle which allows me to spend surplus money precisely how I want it, whether that was paying off debt, contributing more to retirement, or buying things I wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:27 PM
5

I guess I am an exception, I work more/harder, achieved more, and make way more money now as a single dude than when I was married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:25 PM
3

It's more like I think even in niche communities there are still status hierarchies specific to those communities. Example: maybe a guy drives a forklift in a warehouse during the day, lives in a crappy apartment, drives a beater car, doesn't stand out - but at night he's a shit hot lead guitarist of a local metal band. So in the local music scene he has status and is seen as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:35 PM
0

As a smart guy who has been mostly blue collar until very recently, I'd like to push back on your first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:20 PM
10

I got unmatched on a dating app for saying I worked a night job with UPS. A union job with excellent benefits including "cadillac" insurance with low copay and no monthly premium, guaranteed annual raises, up to a month and a half of paid vacation, pension even for part time workers, and that wasn't even my main job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:19 PM
5

Atheist here. Not a hedonist. If you need an invisible sky daddy/mama to tell you what is good or bad/moral or immoral or that eating 5000 calories of ice cream a day or having unprotected sex with multiple partners or smoking crack are suboptimal life choices, it is not a good reflection on one's mental capacity. Ethics is a whole branch of philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:52 PM
0

If only humans, with their superior brainpower and mediocre physical characteristics, were able to invent a simple to use, portable, inexpensive, concealable device which derives its lethality from a chemical reaction to create a large amount of energy in a very short time to launch a projectile at very high speed, which could kill or disable its target, and that energy would be entirely independent of the individual operating this mysterious device.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:33 PM
2

So I should what, then, in your view? Throw up my hands and declare failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:18 AM
1

I can actually afford to do shit now, my car isn't an unreliable beater POS held together with religious ceremonies and duct tape that may or may not break down before our date, I don't have to get shitfaced every time I go out for drinks, etc...though also even if correct shouldn't women my age be equally "meh" so what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 06:02 PM
3

"Dating a divorced guy in his 40s is pretty meh" what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 12:35 AM
3

I divorced at 35. Am now 45 and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:52 PM
0

Its just like your "attractive famous attractive rich guy" list is basically all of the most toxic/egotistical professional archetypes, though at least surgeons actually do good shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:51 PM
1

My ex wife being diagnosed as bipolar did not improve our sex life....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:22 PM
1

MBA dudebros, the people who absolutely ruin everything, yes, we need those people to fucking breed...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:19 PM
3

" They're like large adult children and most grow out of it in mid to late 20s" When I was a 20 something screwup I was far more successful with women than mid 30's- now (mid 40s) despite being way more mature and having my shit together and some accomplishments I'm legit proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:17 PM
5

Homeless? Just buy a house
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:17 AM
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Bring caveman weapons to the modern battlefield, see how that works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:37 AM
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I got into a relationship. With a bipolar woman, and it fucked up my life pretty badly, and cost my 9 years I'll *never* get back. Apparently that's the best I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:14 AM
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It takes years of consistent practice to be actually good at the guitar, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:33 PM
3

I'm divorced. I am now way better off than I ever was when I met the ex in my mid 20s and had the most success with sex/dating, despite that being the most dysfunctional, loser-ish, objective low point of my entire life. Since divorce I have massively improved myself to the point where I'm now debt free, earned a degree, started a new career, have some nice stuff, picked up some new constructive hobbies, etc. I didn't age terribly or let myself go. You'd think I'd have something going for me. Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:26 PM
3

I'm not even a loser in an objective sense but it doesn't even matter anymore. There's always someone better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:46 PM
1

Here's the thing though: I've never had trouble finding work, and I've been employed in some form or capacity since I was 16 which was for me 30 years ago. Right now I'm working two different jobs, one of which is actually a new career, and having more than one job and/or side hustle was pretty common for me. So is job hunting fun? No, but at least I have a pretty good expectation of at least some level of success, or feel like at least one employer might value my qualities. I have confidence in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:22 PM
3

Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:07 PM
5

The individuals I have known to be abusive were hardly Hannibal Lecter level genius masterminds who internalized the works of Machiavelli or Sun Tzu, in fact they probably could not even spell those names correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:57 PM
11

Saying mean things on the internet is worse than injuring or killing people. You heard it here folks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:53 PM
3

RE: politicians - or it's the fact that positions of power tend to attract precisely the sort of people who should never be actually given positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:43 PM
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Should we tell them to go out in the field, hand them shovels, while you look for the nearest MP40?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:18 PM
4

I don't dislike women, I dislike wasting time, energy, and money just to get rejected and ghosted when I could have done something else with better ROI instead
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:01 PM
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More like I suspect the ratio of guys like that and women who like that type of guy is very far from 1:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:02 PM
3

For me, it tracks. Ex wife was diagnosed with bipolar disorder in her early 40s. It was a combination of that, her not wanting to take her meds for it and ensuing complications, her quitting her full time job and barely contributing financially to the household anymore (which ties in to money problems) though in retrospect it was also "shouldn't have gotten married to begin with," believing I probably didn't deserve anything better anyway, and sunk cost fallacy on my part after a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 07:00 PM
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I guess what I'm getting at is I am aware that such women do exist but in my experience they are 1) very rare and 2) almost *never* found single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:35 PM
10

I used to say about being an introvert who has been to hundreds of concerts in my lifetime that "I go to bars because bands won't play in my living room" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:32 PM
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Well must be nice, your relationship sounds fairly idyllic compared to my own experiences or things I've observed with others. But just to humor you - I worked 70 hours last week between both of my jobs. This isn't unusual for me. How many women do you think would be OK with a LTR partner who habitually did that? Or would she complain I'm always working and never have time for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 04:07 PM
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More like my life is in most respects quite good or is at least arranged how I want it. When you're in a long term relationship, the other person gets a vote on how you spend your money, time, and energy and their vision probably will conflict/compete with your own. If its a hookup or a more casual situation, you don't have to deal with that person all the time you're not asleep or at work, you each get your own space, preserve your autonomy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:53 PM
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It's because you underestimate how little affirmation the average man receives wrt his physical/sexual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:41 PM
2

It's more like how being a husband/LTR guy comes with a lot more strings attached, forced compromises, obligations, and costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:40 PM
1

Oh wow so we can figure out IRS forms and pick out wallpaper samples? How *exciting*
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:38 PM
0

Well, that makes *one* of you....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 03:26 PM
1

I wonder how many liberal women would assume I'm conservative because I'm blue collar and like guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 10:54 PM
1

Relationships involve a lot of compromise, sacrifice, and obligations, IDK about you but I've got enough of those as is. Sex is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 08:55 PM
5

Rittenhouse's prosecutor insisted he should have been forced to endure a four-on-one beatdown. Fuck that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 08:02 PM
1

Interesting bringing up Nolan in a conversation about the Titanic when Mr Dawson in Dunkirk was based on Second Officer Lightoller, who commanded one of the ships in the evacuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:50 PM
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There was no shortage of interesting real life people involved in the historical events, Cameron didnt have to invent fake ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:37 AM
2

See, faahion is ridiculous and completely non-sensible. Instead of buying a short sleeve shirt one should take a completely unnecessary extra step
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 08:35 AM
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Counterpoint: it is hammered into men's heads repeatedly that lack of confidence is a mortal sin in dating. If a man says he doesnt believe he has reason to be confident, he is told that he must fake it, or have irrational confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 08:30 AM
2

I enjoy 2 out of 3 of the above, never gave me any cred with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:00 PM
1

I'm a blue collar guy and in the summers here it gets above 100 deg F regularly, where and when would it make sense for me to wear a suit aside from funerals or weddings?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:55 PM
1

Well now it's the opposite, I'm doing relatively well in pretty much every area of life but apparently undateable/unfuckable. It took divorce to get me where I am now. It's like I can have one or other, but not both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:02 PM
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Men are constantly told to have unwarranted and bottomless confidence lest they be considered unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:39 AM
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Why wait around for a guy to "grow on" her when Chad is compelling right from the get go?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:36 AM
2

I had the most success with women when I was a fuckup and loser. Don't really care to repeat that though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:31 AM
1

Granted a lot of lawyers do suck, but we do need some kind of criminal justice system, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:47 AM
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Yeah. I worked 70 hours this week between both jobs. But fuck, at least that pays my bills, contributes to my retirement portfolio, and lets me buy cool stuff that I want. Dating by comparison is a terrible ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:14 AM
1

Honestly, I wouldn't be happy with myself if I wasn't doing something productive. I don't want to be a leech, just sitting around fucking off all day would get old and boring after awhile, I like not having to stress about sudden expenses. Even in the absence of a capitalist or modern system, or if I were a hermit living out in the woods, I'd still have to work to get food, shelter, water, etc and even in a communist utopia someone would have to dump garbage and dig power lines or stamp the pape…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:33 PM
1

I don't mind them on other people, men or women. I just hate how it seems it's just another (expensive, arbitrary) layer of gatekeeping attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:08 PM
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I hate the tattoo fad. To me they are a huge waste of money, don't make you a badass, and its dumb to associate them with rebellion or nonconformity when middle class people from the burbs get them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:41 AM
2

Not everyone wants kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:26 AM
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Since my divorce I've gone back and gotten a college degree, a professional certification, started a second career in my 40s, fixed my finances, picked up new hobbies, and reacquainted myself with some old ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 11:25 AM
1

Bitching about the previous generation goes back to ancient Rome and most likely farther than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:13 AM
2

I'm on stupidpol quite a bit, if you've ever been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:30 AM
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With the old school (not modern neoliberal) left there was once much more room for masculinity that was of a positive nature (plenty of manly men in factory workers, farmers, and disillusioned soldiers that once filled the ranks of the left) rather than the far right parody of dudebro masculinity. I'm a 20 year active member of a labor union who hates Trump but also am a fervent believer in gun rights, for example, and care far more about economically progressive policies than socially progressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:11 AM
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The biggest killer in modern war is artillery, hand to hand combat is only a last resort, and it matters not the slightest to a 155mm shell (nor a bullet, a bomb, a drone, a missile, etc) if you are 5'3" or 6'3"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:36 PM
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Except unlike other species humans are only successful because of superior intellect, not physical attributes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:32 PM
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Plenty of white collar people have shit hours too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:00 PM
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More than a few women on here (and not on here) have expressed the belief that even a financially successful blue collar man is still beneath them because of the stereotype that working with one's hands precludes things like reading for pleasure or education or any sort of sophistication or intellectual interests, or the assumption that he must be politically conservative, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:44 PM
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Same end result though from the man's POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:32 PM
2

Metal concert attire is just band shirts/jeans, maybe denim or leather jacket if cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:01 PM
2

When the other side is evil, and you campaign on the fact that voting for you is preventing evil, you can get away with doing the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:42 AM
3

Don't forget when she jumped into bed with the Cheney family.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:27 AM
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Not even a rounding error compared to deaths from single-victim, non-incel-related murders or, you know, fucking US foreign policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:00 PM
0

I think much of the problem with the apps is because of enshittification that happens in so many other areas of life these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:53 PM
0

You can speak the truth without deliberately being the most gratuitous asshole imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:14 PM
1

Self defense is a last resort. A good tool to have in your box, for sure, but a last resort all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:45 PM
2

Audie Murphy weighed less than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:44 PM
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Yes, it's more about the status. Not known for academics but there are many highly paid professional jobs here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:04 PM
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I live in D/FW and it matters here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:43 PM
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Unfortunately I'm smart but mostly blue collar. The whole burned out former gifted kid thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 02:50 AM
1

He sounds similar to me, I prefer socializing in bursts - I go out for a few weekends then take the next couple of weekends off socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:42 AM
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Introversion as a concept is misunderstood. Yes some people can mislabel social anxiety as introversion. It's more that introverts expend energy in social situations and regain energy being alone so social interaction can be fun, but it can also be draining. It's more like having a finite capacity or a limited battery not being a misanthropic recluse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:58 PM
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They also find a man who is too intellectual/cerebral unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:52 PM
3

Extreme negative bias toward introverts isn't universal, but it's highly pronounced in American culture. Introverts get horrible PR, that's one thing I learned from the online dating discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:14 PM
2

Fiction these days sucks, I read nonfiction 90% of the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/25 01:13 AM
6

Poly to me just seems like it would be more work and more drama/conflict. Seems like it would take a certain kind of person to handle that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:42 PM
1

I think that depends on the individual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:37 PM
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Right. But I'm curious when people say they care about income, I wonder at what point the disparity starts to matter to them. Though strangely enough in my own experience, I had the most success with women when I was a 20-something fuckup with no real goals or ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:06 PM
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It seems to me like there is a considerable range of middle ground between more powerful and wealthy than one's partner, and a NEET....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:36 PM
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There is another option - you can make money and have a decent job/ career, but still live a relatively modest and simple lifestyle. There are plenty of people out there making six figures who go bankrupt because of out of control debt, spending, and lifestyle creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:16 PM
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I do get it but I'm saying these established women have a big advantage at this point regardless. I know some absolutely phenomenal musicians that aren't ever going to play any venue bigger than a local bar or club, not because they lack the ability or talent, but because they lack the marketing and exposure, or are in a more niche genre like prog metal. Just because a random woman is attractive on OF doesn't mean she is going to easily reach a wide audience without marketing herself very well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:21 PM
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Which is interesting, because Im into history and I've read the memoirs of Americans who fought in Pacific Theater of WW2, Korea, and Vietnam and none of them said. "Gee, these Asians sure were a bunch of weak pushovers" - quite the opposite in fact, even when there was animosity there was a grudging respect. There was a good reason many people still argue over the Atomic Bomb justification but the US military wasn't expecting six digit US casualties during the invasion because the Japanese were…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:28 AM
0

I think women have considerably more latitude in that regard than men, unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 07:33 AM
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What do you do when you feel like you're too weird for the normal people, but too normal for the weird people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:42 PM
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The word she used was "pleasant." Not amazing, incredible, awesome, outstanding, sexy, passionate, etc. Just....pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:02 PM
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Naah I was just saying you said how everything with an AI girlfriend would feel plotted and planned without spontaneity - but it seems like there is no shortage *real life* of women who expect man to lead, plan, and initiate so I was (admittedly somewhat glibly) asking, from the man's perspective, what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:28 PM
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It's not about that, more like in 10 years somehow I haven't met anyone else except a handful of dates that never went anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:22 PM
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It would be monetized worse than EA/Activision. Oh, you want kinky sex? Well you have to get the BDSM or [insert particular kink/fetish here] DLC pack. Horny? Too bad, 60GB patch just dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:48 PM
2

I agree with much of what you say. But on the other hand, regarding the first line of your second paragraph: I see so many women saying they don't respect the man if he isn't dominant, doesn't take the lead, and expect him to initiate the vast majority of the time, and seemingly want to assume a passive role...so while I realize the bot version of that is a more extreme development, i wonder how far off they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:38 PM
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It would probably cost about as much as a car, too, for a decent one, and at least my truck gets me to work and I can, say, haul my kayak to the lake with it and other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:34 PM
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Working people can barely afford housing, transportation, insurance, and groceries, I have no idea how much some high end sexbot would cost, though I guess it's a great way to put people into even more debt paying 30% APR over 5 years or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:31 PM
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Why would any self respecting man want to be messaged by a woman who thinks he is below average looking? Is feeling like someone is essentially humoring you or probably thinking in her mind she is doing you a favor supposed to be a turn on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:19 PM
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Exredpill mods are ban-happy power tripping assholes, I wouldn't go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:15 PM
1

See the "single for 10 years" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 02:13 PM
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Been single for 10 years now, and sometimes its useful to be reminded why women think I'm a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:46 AM
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"The other side is evil, therefore I don't have to put forth more than the absolute bare minimum of effort because I am entitled to your support."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/25 12:43 PM
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My own thoughts: A. Not necessarily. I'm an introvert and more people = more drama. 1 woman is enough. But if you want variety not every relationship has to be long term. But cheaters are scumbags, men or women. B. I'm in my 40's, plenty of attractive women my age, 20 somethings I have nothing really in common with, plus I don't want kids so women my age are more attractive in that regard because they either are childfree or have been there/done that and the kids are adults or close to it, usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:34 AM
2

Just need to sell cordless drills and 10mm sockets and you could make a killing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:55 AM
3

Yeah but apparently to women a perfectly normal guy might as well be Quasimodo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:35 AM
2

Women seem to like guys with tattoos now but forgive me if I don't want to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars for body art I don't even want. Also, women say they want an alpha and a leader, but also a slavish conformist to arbitrary trends?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:12 AM
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Im sure there is a sort of critical mass there, yes, but my point is I dont think the small time content creators get that much exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:39 AM
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"Tastes change as you age" often translates to "less interested in fun things"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:57 AM
3

I imagine the top women also have much better marketing and exposure though too. From what I understand many have a staff of people assisting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:48 AM
3

Yet the average woman makes, IIRC, a pathetically small amount of money on OF that works out to well below minimum wage
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:08 PM
2

Men are often and repeatedly told they should be confident, have an abundance mindset, and raise their standards. All these things imply that he has a fair number of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:06 PM
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If someone didn't charge their phone once no big deal. Maybe they forgot their charger or their cord/charger crapped out on them, etc. Its life, shit happens. If it happens repeatedly however, or their texting pattern changes, yeah, different story, but one isolated incident without any corroborating evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:55 PM
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Its insecurity and neediness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:29 AM
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How insecure and needy are you if you cant go twenty four hours without a text?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:27 AM
1

Where you have to follow an oppressive religion, swear obedience to your superiors, take vows of poverty, and forego whatever lifestyle and career you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:43 AM
7

I think telling people "just be asexual bro" is a rather tough and unrealistic ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:51 PM
0

Because when fhe other person doesnt put forth effort it makes me think they dont really want it and just..acquiesce to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:43 PM
1

I had the most success with women when I was in the most "loser phase" portion of my life. If that is what it takes to be successful I still would not go back to that version of myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:23 PM
2

And then you have guys like me: burnt out academically gifted kid with a high IQ who ended up blue collar by circumstance, worked a union job for 20 years, then went for a professional job later in life (40s) but only with a 2 year degree. So I don't fit in with either women who like blue collar guys or the ones who like white collar guys. Fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:15 PM
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I don't entirely disagree with you, but when a man expresses lack of success often the question is asked or assumption is made that he must be some kind of low-effort slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:07 PM
0

Just seems to be yet another rationalization for why men always have to bear the burden of initiating damn near everything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:03 PM
1

IDK I live in the South USA, have some nerd tendencies but also mostly blue collar by upbringing and my work history until recently, and have several "manly" interests too: hiking, camping, fishing, kayaking, target shooting, craft beers, metal and rock music, to name a few. I have always been good at making people laugh, and Im a voracious reader on many different subjects so I can talk about a rather wide range of topics with some intelligence...but haven't had shit for luck dating since my di…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:10 AM
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Yep, its like can't just fuck and enjoy it, its got to be some sort of curated Experience (TM). Makes me think of this meme that said "its not my fault you gotta have your leg in a bear trap and get punched in the face to cum. Relax."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:40 AM
1

But if physical size and strength were the end all be all, the above outliers wouldnt be even possible in the first place. Without weapons or tools, humans get badly fucked up by dog breeds half our size.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:56 AM
1

Audie Murphy, Simo Hayha, Bruce Lee, the Ghurkas being one of the most respected warrior cultures...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:23 AM
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But why are so many women into it? Like women who want guys with beards and tattoos all of the sudden now? Can't for like maybe just once a dating fad or trend come around that I could benefit from? I dont hate travel and Im not a homebody, as I said, its just not something I would define myself by and yes it can be expensive and I also work 2 jobs so dont exactly have vast amounts of leisure time, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:13 AM
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Gay marriage bans, dont ask dont tell policy in the military, HIV scare/crisis, celebrities coming out publicly as a highly controversial act are all well within my memory of someone who isnt even that old. I wouldnt be surprised that there would be a strong feeling of solidarity and community among gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:08 AM
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I enjoy road trips to cities a few hours away, usually for concerts, spent 2 weeks hiking a section of the Appalachian Trail last year, visit friends and family out of state, and sometimes go to professional events in other cities, but I wouldn't describe myself as a person who loves travel or as a core part of my personality like many women seem to do, at least on dating apps these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:56 AM
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In my experience when people say "travel" here they usually refer to the kind requiring a passport.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:19 AM
2

Awesome, too bad it won't do shit when the other guy has a gun, a knife, or 5 friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:45 AM
2

I have a friend who is an introvert, works from home, rarely drinks, rarely goes out. But she's also lived in several countries, speaks 6 languages, and has 3 masters degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:54 PM
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I enjoy going to breweries, trying new beers, and drinking socially, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to be with someone who wants to party and get shitfaced constantly, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:52 PM
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There's a much different demographic from 12 year olds playing Minecraft or Fortnite vs the iRacing or DCS/MSFS crowd (just as one example) And also guys being into sports isn't stigmatized but many dudes like the same team as adults that they did as teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:42 PM
3

Being outside and fishing was something I did when I was 12 as well, my dad took me fishing all the time growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:41 PM
2

I guess it depends, much of my circle is metalheads who are active in the local music scene and at least some of those women would appreciate a guy playing a cool riff or solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:34 PM
2

The rally version could be fun though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:32 PM
2

Also I suppose it depends on your level of spending and lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 11:27 PM
3

I think you misunderstood me, I meant to say that because escorts are professionals they can presumably be trusted with a level of discretion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:14 AM
3

I think for celebs a lot of the appeal is that a professional isn't going to put photos of their encounters on social media, or file a paternity suit, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:21 AM
1

I remember when Hugh Grant was dating Elizabeth Hurley in her prime and got busted with an unattractive prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:19 AM
5

Glad the species that figured out space travel, the internet, and stealth aircraft that can take off and land vertically is selecting for the important things, like being marginally taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:09 AM
1

Not everyone wants kids
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:25 AM
1

Soldiers are supposed to be brave, they still give out medals for heroic actions. Employees are expected to work hard and do a good job, many jobs still have recognition and bonuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:53 PM
2

RE protection: if a woman pulls the trigger, a bullet leaves the barrel with exactly the same velocity and energy, and terminal effect on the attacker, as it does if said trigger was pulled by a man. Even my WW2 combat veteran grandfather taught his wife how to protect herself in his absence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:11 PM
5

I'm easygoing and chill, rather live and let live. Apparently that makes one unmasculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:41 PM
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Anyone talking about "energy" is a red flag. Dumbass new age hippie dippie bullshit, they probably believe in astrology or essential oils too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:34 PM
3

Why, because of ooga booga caveman shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:24 PM
11

Specialization makes sense. Being expected to lead because ooga booga caveman shit does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:21 PM
1

I think our society as a whole sexualizes toxic people, of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:30 AM
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Human beings respond to incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:29 AM
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Men focus on traits they have control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:19 AM
1

What happens to your man when all twelve of his brain cells get vacated from his skull by a bullet?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:13 AM
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Ah yes insecurities, which only women are permitted to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:27 PM
1

That's how people with good jobs end up in debt
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 10:55 PM
1

Introverts also tend to be fiercely loyal, discerning, hard working, good listeners, and other positive qualities (clearly we should breed those out of the population so we can have more salesmen, i guess) that no one ever talks about, only the negative ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:33 AM
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Interesting how a slightly above average (6/10) man is considered downright ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:58 PM
1

You can enjoy gaming and also outdoorsy or "cool" stuff. Also its nice to have indoor hobbies when it's 105 plus degrees outside in the summer or cold/rainy in the winter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:41 PM
11

Women liked me better when I was a 24-25 year old fuckup than they do the much improved current version.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:39 PM
1

I enjoy gaming and have a nice PC rig with flight sim gear like HOTAS and pedals, TrackIR, etc. But I also hike, kayak, work out, listen to audiobooks at work, and have other "cool" interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:37 PM
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I mess around with guitar and bass and it can be an expensive hobby if you really start to nerd out about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:34 PM
2

I think most people are certainly flawed but the number who fall into the "evil" category or have genuine malicious intent is probably quite small.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:27 PM
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I'm an atheist, but I do kind of envy the social/community aspect that churches provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:24 PM
1

Hat and sunglasses are utilitarian attire when fishing if you actually want to see. And no one is towing a bass boat with a Corolla.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:29 AM
2

Maybe Democrats should have had a better message than "the other side is worse" - they opened with a few somewhat progressive ideals but ended up jumping into bed with the goddamn Cheney family and trotting out a bunch of Hollywood celeb endorsements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:26 AM
2

For one, I work too damn much between 2 jobs. Secondly - why talk to me instead of the dozen other options she probably has these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:17 AM
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I owned a few Volvos. They didn't break down often, but when they did, parts were expensive as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:40 PM
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Because the Democrats turned their nose up at working class men and also things they typically enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:57 AM
2

What do you expect men to do, take photos juggling swords or hanging suspended from helicopters?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:55 AM
1

I agree in general but what exercise, pray tell, increases one's height?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:04 PM
1

I drive a compact car, but I can back a semi trailer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:01 PM
3

Honda also has made some legit cool/fun cars - Civic/Integra Type Rs, the NSX, S-2000, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:00 PM
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Or maybe the guy with a Honda just wants a reliable affordable car that holds good resale value and doesn't want to deal with the headache that is German engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:58 PM
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Much of the rank and file of the old school left came from what you would call "manly" men..disgruntled soldiers, blue-collar workers, farmers, etc. So I don't think leftism and what we think of as traditional masculinity are inherently in opposition to each other. Neoliberalism, on the other hand, is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:46 AM
2

Initiating most of the time is fine, but when you have to initiate all the time it starts to fuck with your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:22 AM
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Thank God the species that figured out space travel and the internet is still trying to breed marginally taller cavemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:24 PM
2

"It's like rural folks who think cities are warzones even though they never go to them." Or extroverts who think "introvert" means socially anxious shut in, which it does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:21 PM
1

You can theoretically win the lottery, but its unwise to base your financial strategy around the belief that you will
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:13 PM
2

On the one hand I don't disagree, but on the other hand I think women underestimate just how little positive validation or affirmation the average guy gets wrt his looks or sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:34 PM
1

Now imagine a guy thinking wow, even those losers got more opportunities than he did
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:33 PM
3

You can have traditional beliefs about some things, like relationships or sex, while still holding overall liberal or leftish political beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:00 PM
2

Right becasue the only alternative to lifelong marriage to your one and only soulmate is being poly or a swinger? There's no middle ground between these two options?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:59 PM
4

I've noticed that....a man says he doesn't want an LTR and even the most self-identified liberals think that means you want a harem of 22 year old stripper porn stars or just want to cheat, and start talking suspiciously like uptight fundamentalist Republican moralist busybody preachers and insisting that long term commitment or marriage are the only "valid" forms of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:22 PM
5

Remember what they said about Latino men, and how sexist they were? Presumably this is why Mexico just elected a woman president and had 2 women candidates?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 10:20 AM
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Even of the professional athletes, many go broke after they retire
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 10:08 AM
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Yes to the first, possibly to the second
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 10:07 AM
1

I used to have a brutally physical job and I was lean and mean as hell and would often outwork the jacked dudes because they didn't have the endurance/stamina I did. Women weren't all that impressed though because with clothes on I just looked like a normal unassuming guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:21 PM
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Catholic priest sex scandals are basically a meme. And even back in the day popes, bishops, cardinals, etc, had mistresses
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:07 PM
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No argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:00 PM
4

My issue is more about the double standard than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:57 PM
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Women's insecurity is treated like a problem to be solved, or at least understood. Men's insecurity is to be demonized and/or ridiculed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:54 PM
1

It's like this person wakes up and their Google calendar says every few days "make another PPD post indirectly reaffirming blackpill concepts while pretending to be bluepill." Maybe its some sadistic kink or something. Or gloating over the untermenschen. Gotta throw the obligatory "just adopt a monastic lifestlye bro" in there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:32 PM
2

Allow me to introduce you to rock stars of the 60s-80s. Who were mostly skinny cokeheads and often weren't that tall
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:22 PM
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It might help women to feel more confident about themselves, as well, which isn't bad. God knows how men are expected to have this endless reserves of borderline irrational confidence to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:13 PM
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I think he or she also comes here to gloat or feed his/her sense of superiority to the subhumans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:32 AM
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The clergy, not at all famous for breaking their vows...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:31 AM
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Perhaps anything at all other than "just go over there and suffer in silence so that you don't inconvenience me"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:20 AM
2

Average these days has a quite negative connotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:52 PM
1

If you're just as dead either way, why does it matter?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 10:25 PM
1

Having more boats on the Titanic wouldn't have mattered, though, they barely had time to get the ones into the water that were there and the last collapsibles went into the water minutes before the final plunge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 10:17 PM
1

Says the guy who probably wouldn't last a week in my workplace.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 10:14 PM
1

Imagine when you want to participate in a certain career, and are told you can't because some "pre crime" in your younger years shows up on a background check...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 10:10 PM
1

Right, probably better to just mock them and kick them repeatedly while they're down, instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:41 PM
6

Because our society/culture loves to sexualize toxic and shitty people, the inverse of that is that non-toxic people are desexualized. There's no inherent, magical reason the introverted accountant driving the 10 year old Corolla with a stacked retirement portfolio can't be good at sex, but he sure as hell isn't perceived that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:28 PM
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Funny how fiction that appeals to women never have her leave the tattooed biker guy for the accountant, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:07 PM
4

No but its not an unreasonable expectation either. Like no you arent owed a relationship but since bloopers love to point out most men arent single, I think its at least at some level understandable for the ones who haven't had luck to wonder what the hell is so horribly wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:51 PM
1

bEaRdS aNd TaToOs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:07 PM
6

I was married once, never again, anyone who doesn't want to get married, man or woman, has my understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:09 AM
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Not really but we live in a society that sexualizes toxicity and calls decent stable people boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:21 AM
4

It's a pushback against the belief/stereotype that just because a man doesn't want a committed LTR he must want a harem of 22 year old stripper girlfriends or want to man-whore around. I'd rather not have either of those things, my ideal would be something like a regular FWB. It's not that women have no value other than sex, it's more like right now sex is the only thing I'm missing from my life and I get pretty much everything else from other sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:55 PM
2

Men are expected to be confident, it's hard to be confident when your'e constantly reminded you're a defective person with a disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:13 PM
2

There's a point of diminishing returns but being broke definitely sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:34 PM
5

I had my best luck with women when I was at a low point in my life too, I just hate how the apparent choice is either be an attractive loser or instead someone who is more accomplished, responsible, and successful now but has no luck with women. It's a shit dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:32 PM
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I don't want kids. I live a pretty minimalist lifestyle by choice. I already have a roommate I split bills with. I'm an introvert who, although not asocial, is fine with his own company. I have close friends I can confide in or rely on for emotional support. What's in it for me with an LTR except taking on more obligations, responsibilities, and expenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:29 PM
6

A dildo doesn't have to take on additional obligations or responsibilities to do its job, either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:25 PM
5

Narcissists have fragile egos but it doesn't stop them from fooling people when they are perceived as confident and attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:23 PM
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Teamster for 20 years here. My best friend has 3 graduate degrees, but if she ever talked down to me or disrespected me, or treated me like I was dumb, she wouldn't be a friend for long, and I wouldn't tolerate that from a partner either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:25 PM
1

Depends, are you spending huge amounts of cash on designer brands?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:03 PM
2

Devaluation goes both ways, let's not pretend otherwise. My generation grew up being told in so many words more or less that trades were only for people too dumb to go to college, and it's not like blue collar workers aren't denigrated or disrespected either. Even the Democratic Party shifted from its core labor union backed New Deal roots to the educated, professional "knowledge workers" in the Clinton/Obama eras.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:44 PM
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Many prestigious jobs also involve working long hours, though. And does a man working two jobs, but without kids, have more free time or less responsibilities than a single mother? What about a woman working and going to college part time?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:38 PM
3

Dumb guys are cleaning up out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:37 PM
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The single most overused word in the English dictionary these days
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:30 PM
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"Homeless? Just go buy a house!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:22 PM
2

Aka the least attractive male type
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:08 AM
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I was an uber/lyft driver for a side hustle for a couple years. I got to interact with a broad spectrum of people and I found for whatever reason people seemed to trust me and would just end up telling me all sorts of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:57 AM
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I find most people will have at least one interesting story or an interesting thing to say if you talk to them long enough, and this is coming from an introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:54 PM
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Hiking is awesome but unfortunately where I live it's flat as a billiard table and in an area of massive suburban sprawl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:53 PM
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The threshold for "ugly" is not what it once was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:49 PM
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Okay Badass McToughGuy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:10 PM
1

I find most people say something interesting if you talk to them long enough. And I'm an introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:04 PM
2

I'm aware but in the US we don't have a true and viable left party to actually vote for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:02 PM
3

Somebody into rockets doesn't sound boring, sounds more interesting than someone who just wants to go get shitfaced every weekend and nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:22 PM
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In theory supports the working class, while constantly talking down to and insulting them (considering we don't really have a true leftist party, more like neoliberals)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:20 PM
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I live in a nation that has only two viable parties, and it sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:19 PM
1

People are literal stereotypes who cannot like dissimilar things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:18 PM
3

Not everyone is into hippy dippy woo-woo new age bullshit philosophy or terminology
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:24 AM
1

I'm easygoing, self-contained, and live and let live though and apparently women don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 07:03 PM
0

Too many women these days though don't seem to respect a man who doesn't want to be dominant or a leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:43 PM
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Women only seemed to like me when I was a 20 something fuckup. Since divorce at 35 it's been a dry spell worse than the Sahara and no I didn't get fat or lose my hair, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:45 PM
2

Imagine being a relatively successful dude and only matching someone who is completely dysfunctional who thinks they are still your equal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:49 AM
1

When they aren't burnt out from working 60 hour weeks, possibly at multiple jobs, to afford increasing cost of housing/food/insurance/cars/etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:59 PM
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Sick Again off Physical Graffiti was about underage groupies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:47 PM
2

Or people defer to the boss because they don't want to get fired and need to eat/pay rent, but it doesn't mean they actually respect him/her, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:20 PM
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My brother in Christ, have you never heard of KISS, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Motley Crue, AC/DC, W.A.S.P., Whitesnake, or any number of other hard rock/ heavy metal bands and their common lyrical motifs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:02 PM
1

Depends on the game
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:20 PM
2

Fit and competent are rather subjective, no? The guys I saw on the AT who'd been hiking up and down mountains for 700 miles looked quite a bit different than the gym bros at LA Fitness who tie up the squat rack for 30 minutes at a time. And most people are competent in at least one area, usually more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:44 PM
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Myopic? IDK if most people really give a shit if you wear glasses anymore, and lasik and contacts are a thing. Bald? Plenty of actors/athletes who are bald or have shaved heads seem to be considered attractive. Hell, I've got long hair and I think more women are into the bald/shaved look than are into guys with hair like mine, outside of certain subcultures. Chin? Women liking "bEaRdS aNd TaTtOoS" has been a OLD meme for years now, so hiding it with a beard isn't seen as unfashionable or unusual…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:52 PM
1

Best friend is a woman. We split the bill unless one of us is celebrating a special occasion or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:28 PM
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I have ADHD. For a brief period in my early-mid 20's (met my ex wife at 26) I did alright with women but ever since my divorce about 10 years ago....nothing. Thanks for the kind words. Starting that new career having my income go up 50% since February has been pretty goddamn nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:00 AM
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I went to elite prep schools on an academic scholarship, crashed and burned junior year in HS. If I hadn't have fucked up, I had the brains and grades to get into some very good schools. I didn't come from an elite background though, parents were lower middle class/upper working class. Ended up with a blue-collar union job, went back to school (associates/certification) in late 30s/early 40s. Started new career a few months ago. Plan on getting my bachelor's but will have to wait a few years whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:20 PM
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I'm wary of it because I'm in the USA and we have enough people incarcerated as is, plus criminal convictions can completely fuck you over in some career fields, like certifications or professional organizations that tend to ask questions like "have you ever been convicted of a crime"...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:24 PM
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Or they do what I did and experience the dreaded gifted kid burnout.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:15 PM
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Imagine thinking that in 2025 having tattoos makes you tough, or edgy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:06 PM
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Many women in thread talking about cops abusing their power, plenty of women attracted to men in power or want dominant partners
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:17 AM
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Sure but no woman is fetishizing construction workers, plenty fetishize a "MaN iN uNiFoRm"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:14 AM
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Why would a man want to be with a partner who didn't find him attractive? Why would he have so little self-respect so as to be with someone who will end up treating him like she is doing him a favor by gracing him with her presence?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 09:37 PM
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I know some guys don't care but I wouldn't sleep with a woman I didn't genuinely like spending time with. If I like a woman, and we do have sex, and it's fun/good, I'm going to want to sleep with her more than once. If she's smart, has a witty sense of humor, and seems like she has her shit together but doesn't take life *too* seriously, we're on. And if she wants to go kayaking or hiking or to metal shows with me on a weekend? Even better. Do we have to *live* together though? Many people seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 10:45 PM
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I feel like I'm spread a bit thin right now for commitment. 2 jobs, one of which is a new career I picked up in my 40's, so not only am I short on free time, learning a new field and career takes considerable mental bandwidth and energy too. I do plan to retire from one of my jobs, but this will be 5 years from now. That said, unless I win the lotto, it's the plan, and I'll be debt free before the end of the year *knock on wood* I'm also an introvert - not antisocial, just naturally rather self-…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:38 PM
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I think that only works for women redheads though, I gather than on men red hair is by far less desirable and don't have that "fiery and probably good in bed" stereotype that red-haired women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:29 PM
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Load of shit. Best friend is a woman. She was one of the people who encouraged me after my divorce to do things like go back to school and helped me get into my current career with her connections, which she didn't have to do. As for me, this is a woman with 3 grad degrees and she stillcomes to me for my advice and trusts my judgement because she knows I have always been honest with her and never bullshit. And she has also said to me that if it weren't for me, she would have never had the courag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:29 PM
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I'm not rustic, I live in the burbs, but I am intentionally minimalist. I rent a room in a house. Could afford a solo apartment, especially now, but this is a very nice area, walking distance from a lake, and landlady is also a very good friend vs. dealing with an impersonal leasing office. Could I afford a house? In 5 years, and if I wanted a 3 hour commute to my non work from home job, maybe. I downsized a great deal by moving here, I found it was easy to get rid of a large amount of my crap, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:22 PM
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I dislike both men and women who constantly brag and boast. If you have to tell me every five minutes what a badass you are, you probably aren't. And while society might not like it from women, it sure as shit rewards egotistical men over the humble ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:30 AM
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I know I have a weird combination of tastes, traits, and attributes. Which is why I'm never anyone's "type"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:47 AM
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I like history but something tells my blue collar metalhead vibes would go over like a fly on a wedding cake with that crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:37 PM
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I was a working-class kid who attended some elite private schools on an academic scholarship, you're goddamn right I figured out real fast that I didn't fit in just because I was somewhat smarter than the average bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:58 PM
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If they never have a positive outcome and make a successful sale, or only on extreme rare occasions, they probably don't last long as salespeople. Most people looking eventually find at least some job, even if it isn't the one they want, or is temp/gig work, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:54 PM
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I never said men should get credit for building everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:53 PM
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A woman brought me into this world, but I don't recall signing up for that, or having any say in the matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:31 PM
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"Vibrational pull?" are you gonna bring up chakras next or talk about your Moon sign? What is with all this new age hippy-dippy shit women go on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:25 PM
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Sorry for the late reply. Busy week though I've nominally been on vacation from one of my jobs. I did want to come back to this though. As for underestimating myself and accomplishments? IDK. I don't think I'm all that impressive considering some of the people I know or have known over the years. Roommate/best friend, earned 3 master's degrees. Another guy I know is an extremely accomplished musician who is the current drummer for a band that, while not a household name and were never a radio st…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:36 AM
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RE #2: your competition isn't limited either, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:34 PM
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And the ones who were prescribed things like opiates by a doctor for a legit medical reason, and got hooked?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:32 PM
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Thanks for the kind words. Will respond later, busy as hell day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:42 PM
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"Protuberant bosom." Damn, nearly destroyed an expensive keyboard with my coffee there. Gotta find a way to work that into conversation somehow :P
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:28 PM
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In my case it wasn't because of religion. I've been an atheist since I was a teenager. In my formative years I was a kid from a lower-middle-class background attending elite private schools on an academic scholarship. I could have been the poster boy for gifted kid burnout. It was more about feeling like an outsider or seeing myself as unworthy and not good enough than religious/moral guilt tripping. I've always had issues with confidence with women, because my confidence in other areas of life …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:14 PM
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Here's what I care about as a guy: 1) that she can support herself financially on her own 2) that she's financially responsible, doesn't have irresponsible spending habits, debt is ok for something like student loans/car/house but less so if she owes massive amount on credit cards or whatever, though it's cool if she's working on paying it off 3) that she's reasonably stable. If we're going long term I'd hope she has some kind of retirement account, whether 401K, IRA, etc. I can meet all of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:44 PM
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Instincts were correct, I know a sleazy sales pitch when I see one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:21 PM
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You assume the latter actually exist, and in sufficient quantity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 04:44 AM
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"All you have to do is buy my book, register for my course, attend my seminar..."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:29 PM
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It's the part of the neoliberal meritocracy that they never say out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:21 PM
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I can be that way especially when it's a setting I'm comfortable in, but I still need my alone time to recharge.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:16 AM
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Introvert =/= sullen, unfriendly hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:25 PM
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Dating is the one area where you rarely get feedback from failure and kinda just have to guess at why, which makes it hard to improve. Most hobbies aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:16 PM
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Because neolibs today call those people uneducated, unsophisticated, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:43 AM
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Old school left was full of blue collar workers. I mean the term "union thug" didn't come from nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:41 AM
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Pulling a trigger is so exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:23 AM
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No one is entitled to a response No one is entitled to their behavior being rendered exempt from criticism, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:14 AM
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Bisexuality is hardly unheard of in warrior cultures. For example, among the samurai class, it was common in certain eras. Imagine calling such a man effeminate and weak - and then having your head removed with a single blow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:03 AM
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"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity", or "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 10:57 PM
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I'd just be happy to not be looked down on or insulted,. covertly or overtly, at this point. That would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:47 AM
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Sometimes it's bad to assume things, especially if you don't know. Since you specified"delivery driver" as a "lowly" or "low wage" occupation I'm merely pointing out that may not be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 06:32 PM
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