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DiscussionImNotJoshAllen/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:21 PM
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They’re content being alone until they’re not. Then they hop on TikTok crying into the camera for attention
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 12:07 PM
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Pain
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:15 PM
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Because calling out a woman’s negative traits in 2022 gets you labeled a misogynist, which is a societal death sentence similar to a white person dropping the n-word, or a straight person using the ‘f’ slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:35 PM
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And your reservations would be valid. This new age dating culture with no boundaries and titles has eroded trust in the opposite sex completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:33 PM
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It’s the biggest fucking joke in the world, there are maybe 100 women TOPS on planet earth with a sexual drive anywhere CLOSE to the average man. “Ohhhh I’m so horny all the time” gets into a relationship “omg I’m so tired tonight babe, we just had sex last week” Gimme a fucking break.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:29 PM
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Here’s my thing- as a man, why would you ever marry this woman? What’s to say she doesn’t drop your ass as soon as the next best thing comes around? If I’m a man looking to settle down, the last thing I’m looking for is a woman who’s been around the block- they will ALWAYS have options and society encourages them to exercise those options in the name of “female empowerment”. If you put a ring on a girl who has “dated them all”, chances are she will continue to “date them all” behind your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:20 PM
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My point is about the expectation for men to pay and the repercussions of not doing so FOR MEN, and somehow it’s become “so women should pay for dates?” I don’t care how anyone does it individually, or within the confines of their relationship. My point is that AS A MAN, if you want to date women, you MUST have the financial flexibility to pay for dates because it is EXPECTED. As a woman, you do NOT have to worry about this financial flexibility because there is no expectation for you to pay on …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:06 PM
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Nope, that’s you twisting my words to draw conclusions that fit your narrative. The facts are that most women don’t pay for dates, and aren’t expected to pay for dates. Whether or not they find men desirable is irrelevant of these facts. If some men “not being desirable enough” is your excuse for women not being expected to pay for dates, you’re even further gone than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:48 PM
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Nope. As a man, stop paying for dates and you WON’T FIND DATES. I know this is difficult for you to understand, coming from a place of privilege and all, but some of us actually have to put in effort and money in order to achieve results in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:39 PM
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ducking accountability as per usual. I forgot women have no flaws, everything they do wrong is because of men!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:34 PM
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Interesting. Not a conservative, I’m a bit more left leaning (but can’t stand the current administration) but I’ve typically resonated with the RP and a lot of RP theories because I feel that there’s a lot of truth to (some of) them. The world is WAY too soft. The RP is harsh in its assessment of gender and gender dynamics but at least it’s honest and based in science/research. The blue pill is people jerking each other off to what they wish the world was like, and I ain’t here for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:30 PM
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This is part of the female privilege that they have that they refuse to acknowledge. A woman is never worried about if she has enough money to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:25 PM
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I never said it was great, it isn’t. But complaining about people wanting to sleep with you/desiring you is still entitled as hell. It’s like complaining that your $100 steak is overcooked- you might have a point but it’s a $100 steak. You’ll be fine, it’s not a real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:48 PM
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1000%, how can I be the gatekeeper of relationships when the only way we’ll end up in a relationship is if you say yes? Women are the gatekeepers of everything in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:42 PM
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Lmao complaining that people want to sleep with you is peak entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:29 PM
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Hahah this is always an interesting topic to me, but less so paying for dates and more just taking them out on dates. It’s interesting that a man is expected to give of his time and attention (which are valuable to women) in order to court her/get to know her better, but it’s incredibly taboo for a man to expect anything physical (which is valuable to men) with a woman after he has spent his time/attention/money. Now I’m NOT saying anyone is entitled to anyone’s body at all, but why is it frowne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:16 PM
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Internet women lie about how happy they are being single and how terrible men are, real life women discuss the shitty/good parts of being single while realizing that there are just as many shitty men as there are shitty women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:06 PM
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Yes we should, but we won’t because we’ve entered a society that cares way too much about hurting people’s feelings instead of giving them the truth. Can’t constructively criticize that man’s flaws - he has depression. Can’t constructively criticize that woman’s flaws - that’s misogynistic. Nobody wants to hear the ugly truths about the world, so they pretend they don’t exist and leave them for their kids to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:15 PM
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Love it gents 🤝
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/09/21 04:17 PM
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… you’re the one who bought up George Floyd, you got no place to be telling me “it’s not about anecdotes”
/r/MensRights28/09/21 12:31 AM
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“and a to-go box for the kids”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/21 12:20 PM
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While you’re right, let’s not forget that Breonna Taylor was a black woman who was killed by the police.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 12:16 PM
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checking in 💪🏾 wouldn’t trade it for anything, but it’s interesting to see the stats laid out like this.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 12:15 PM
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Yikes. Yeah it’s a man’s world right? Where everything we do is controlled by sex, your value is placed on how many women you can sleep with, and just mentioning any faults that women have gets you labeled an ‘inc*l’ or ‘misogynist’? Yeah, definitely a man’s world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 12:55 PM
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Men looking for relationships are unattractive to women now? Lmfao cmon. This is so far removed from reality. Why? Because it doesn’t line up with your experience therefore it’s invalid? My experience is bang on with this- i live in a fairly big city in North America and the a lot of the women I’ve dated have much preferred to stay single and abuse their female privilege than stay in a committed relationship. Why would an attractive woman want to be locked down to one man when she can have seven…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:52 AM
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I was right huh? Cry some more
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:34 PM
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I’ll bet $25k right fucking now that this post was written by a woman. That tells me all I need to know about why you believe this point of view, despite everything in the world around us proving you wrong on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:24 PM
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Yes, it happens literally all the time. Give it about 30 min- 1 hour for the blue pillers to run in here and tell you how “you’re only dealing with insecure and dumb women” and how maybe if you picked better women this wouldn’t happen. Remember men, it is ALWAYS your fault!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:34 AM
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Just because women put in less effort in dating doesn’t mean that relationships aren’t a great deal for them. It’s just a matter of doing more work than you have to. They don’t have to do anything to still be pursued so why would they? If your boss offered to pay you $50,000 for 40 hours of work of $50,000 for 10 hours of work which one would you pick? It’s really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 01:55 PM
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Yes they do, I have a lot of female friends and have seen it myself. The difference is, while no one wants average looking men, average looking women still have a vagina and as a result they are valued and pursued. The main problem is they they don’t seem to think so, because a lot are looking for relationships, and the guys they are sleeping with don’t consider them attractive enough to date. I also believe that women kind of overrate themselves physically? (This is purely speculation based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:22 PM
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Anyone who says they disregard looks is a liar, point blank, period (yes, what women may find attractive varies between individuals, but there still must be physical attraction). Like men, women are attracted to looks first. The blue pill KNOWS this, but they try to sweep it under the rug because there are billions of dollars at stake. Are companies like Tinder, Bumble, or even Instagram wildly successful if they perpetuate the idea that “being yourself” is good enough? Hell no- the “self-improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:17 PM
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It sounds like you’ve been in a coma for 300 years and just woke up. This is life, this is the game now - society places an inherent value on women and they sometimes use that to manipulate men. Then they jump on the internet and talk about how men are trash, how terrible it is to be objectified, and how ‘difficult’ it is to be a woman in the dating world. The fact is, everyone can see that women are playing life on easy mode when it comes to dating, but the victim mentality that they harbor (pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:01 PM
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I have slept with multiple women who later on turned down my advances to date. As a guy looking for a relationship and constantly being told “Men are the gatekeepers of relationships” by society, I wholeheartedly agree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:18 PM
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Going back to someone who rejected you already is always a bad idea. First, they will respect you even less than they initially did, because they know they can always have you. Second, they will still treat you like trash because of point 1, and you will always just be an option (though not a serious one) to them. Third, I can damn near promise you that they will eventually drop your ass for someone who they think will be a better match for them, in a heartbeat. You’ll be left holding the bag of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:27 AM
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I know we are busy shitting on them in this thread but can we at least still be somewhat respectful. They’ve identified their pronouns as they/them and yet OP and others in this thread are still referring to them as she. Maybe not a huge deal to some of us but I’m sure the trans folk in here would appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:47 AM
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the sexual assault boogeyman strikes again
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:30 AM
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It’s anecdotal because YOU turn them off. Many women will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:28 AM
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Congrats on being an anomaly. The type of women I’m speaking about don’t tend to frequent Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:47 PM
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A real “strong, independent woman” offers to pay at the very least. A 21st century “strong, independent woman” waits for the man to pay while complaining about the wage gap and the patriarchy. 21st century strong, independent women = “ I want to be wined and dined like a traditional lady, but I also want all the perks of being a man with none of the responsibilities”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:10 AM
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I think it’s true. Whether you actually find them, and that they are also attracted to you, is an entirely different story though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:40 PM
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I have definitely heard her say something similar before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:00 AM
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If women actually dated women then maybe they’d understand how fickle they can be. I have a female friend who came out when we were adults, and she says one of the hardest things about dating girls is that they are rarely upfront about their intentions compared to men. She says when she used to date guys she could usually pick up on whether they were looking for just sex or something more, but now that she dates women she finds it difficult to sniff out what exactly these women are looking for. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:39 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:11 PM
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It absolutely is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:33 PM
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Bills Mafia all day baby 💙❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:15 AM
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“I do know I found my forever. I do know I've never loved deeper, harder, more ferociously.” Oof. That would hurt to read as her ex-husband unless he’s totally moved on too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:55 PM
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I know this shit is just entertainment, but when it hits too close to home it makes me feel sick. I hope this show doesn’t become too popular hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:24 PM
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OP thinks he’s the only guy in the world who has sex and anyone who disagrees with him is a virgin who “doesn’t talk to women”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:58 PM
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Yes, some of us do this. And in multiple, frequent interactions with different women from different walks of life, I’ve found that the majority of them respond positively to RP “tactics”. So either me, and every other guy with this experience are just having strings of terrible luck where we run into these 40% of women damn near all the time (at the gym, at school, church, you name it), or maybe there is more to it than you care to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:53 PM
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“Misogyny” in 2021 just means holding women accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:44 PM
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If “normal, healthy women” are the secure attachment styles you’re talking about, they make up about 59% of attachment styles (quick Google search). So 6 out of every 10 women will be “normal and healthy” according to you, and 4/10 will be “shitty”. If the odds are almost 50-50, how can one know if they’re dealing with a “shitty” woman vs. a “normal and healthy” one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:41 PM
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Run-of-the-mill dating advice may tell you to do all of these things, but it doesn’t tell you why it works. TRP, as flawed as it may be, seeks to explain why “being funny, confident, dressing well, etc.” is attractive to women, and how you can work to present yourself as an attractive dating option. Regular dating advice tells you to “be yourself”, so if that doesn’t work, we look for answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:37 PM
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If it was only a “minority of broken and insecure women” you might have actually had a point. Seems pretty strange that men with absolutely no connection to each other from various parts of the world can all relate to each other even though it’s a “minority of women” that RP theories relate to. I’ll stick to what works, and you can stick to lying to people for… whatever reason that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:02 PM
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This is just me personally OP, there are a lot of dudes who are looking for virgins so keep your head up! 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:52 PM
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Always hilarious to read these comments from people who are anti RP. Anyone who thinks males and females tend to follow consistent behavioral patterns are labeled “incels”, “virgins” or anything else to try and denigrate us. I’ve been in enough relationships, talked to enough women, and hooked up with enough women to understand what attracts the majority. Many of other men have done this too, but because y’all don’t like to hear the truth, we’re “incels” who somehow don’t want to leave our moms …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:46 PM
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Honestly I know there’s this whole thing about dudes wanting girls with low n-counts and whatever but it’s absolutely a turn off for me. Firstly, if she’s been waiting her whole life, chances are there’s a reason for it and she’s not gonna just lose it for the sake of losing it. Chances are she also treats pussy like a prize, so you gotta put in hella work. Secondly, the lack of experience and willingness to try new shit. When you’ve been with girls who’ve had other partners, in my experience th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 11:18 AM
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Hahahaha I appreciate it, and hopefully that woman comes around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:31 AM
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Thanks for caring, honestly 😂 Yeah, I personally like to have the “where is this going” conversation within the first couple of months because then I know how to approach it. The last girl I dated told me “she didn’t know what she was looking for but she’s open to dating”, so I took it slow. Once we started to hook up consistently and I told her that I liked her, she told me things were moving too fast and she wants to be single. Fast forward 3 months and she’s in a new relationship with “the lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:21 PM
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Oh I’m aware of this attachment style lol, it’s mine as well. Do they tend to attract one another? Because that would make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:39 PM
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Thank you, I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:38 PM
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Typically lasts between 3-9 months. I don’t typically expect things to go anywhere so in the initial stages I probably seem disinterested and “mysterious”? When I start to see potential I get excited, and that’s when I start to put more effort in. I wouldn’t say that I ever became obsessive but of course this is coming from my perspective and not theirs. Eager, absolutely. Once I think I can see a future with a girl I’m excited to see her, talk to her, and make her happy… which is probably the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:38 PM
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Planning/remembering dates, making a more concerted effort to make time for her, responding to texts in a more timely manner, grabbing her food when she’s hungover, grabbing her flowers when she says she’s had a rough day, spending time with her on the phone when she just wants to talk and I could be doing other shit, that kinda effort. It’s pretty basic shit, but once I start showing real effort and matching their energy they tend to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:49 PM
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Yeah I did. Took the test, it told me I was a fearful avoidant, which I guess made sense to me. Not really sure where to take it from here, but I’ve been going to therapy for the last couple years and it’s been alright I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:47 PM
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Why they will be head over heels for me initially, and as soon as I start to feel the same way, they pull back and say they aren’t looking for this. Why are women more attracted to me when I don’t care for them as much? As soon as I start to put in effort it becomes unattractive to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:31 PM
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It's weird you guys talk about the red flags women should be looking for while dropping red flags that you yourselves would be abusive, then wonder why you don't get dates. That’s quite an accusation. Where on earth did I drop red flags that I would be abusive? I’ve never put my hands on a woman and never would. Are you trying to say that because I put 50-50 blame on known abusers and the women who actively choose to date these known abusers, that somehow I condone abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:53 PM
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Rape isn’t that severe of a concern. I think you mean that the chances of being raped aren’t that severe of a concern. Rape is a pretty severe concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:23 PM
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are you trying to argue that women are property…? I don’t even know how your point makes any sense and it’s pretty destructive to any civil discourse we’re tryna have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:30 PM
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bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:19 PM
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Hahahaha “as an incel”. Yes, anyone who asks women to take accountability for their dating partners must be an incel. This is exactly why men and women are at each other’s throats these days. Have a good day, and good luck in your next relationship. 👌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:42 PM
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Yeah I’m sure there were no other red flags that you picked up on. He was just a perfect dude who loved to read who randomly strangled you one day. Give your head a fucking shake, these people always leave clues, we just choose to ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:10 PM
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What behaviors/picking partners/actions are you demanding women take responsibility for? 1) Hypergamy exists. Whether one chooses to act on it consciously or subconsciously is a different story. 2) Abuse of any kind, especially in a relationship, is abhorrent. Women will notice red flags from abusive/violent men PRIOR to dating them, date them, get abused (shocker), and then proceed to peddle “all men are trash”. See, Karreuche + Chris Brown, FKA Twigs + Shia LaBouef for some celebrity examples.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:36 AM
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Because they get lots of free shit and then if shit goes south they can cry about how all men are terrible and people will believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:19 AM
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I thought you were doing it for yourselves? Exactly. So which is it, women? You try extra hard to be beautiful because it’s for you, or because you want to attract men? I’m not saying it can’t be both, but y’all will scream from the rooftops about how it’s for “yourselves”. The cognitive dissonance is unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:17 AM
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Lmao this was hilarious to read, it’s like every favorite feminist talking point. The classic “We’re actually this way because of YOU GUYS” and accepting no responsibility for your behaviors, picking your partners, or actions. Here’s my favorite line: However, it can actually be harder to find a partner if you’re only physically attracted to a small percentage of the population… Is this supposed to make me feel bad for you? Lmaoooooo women have it so much better than men in the heterosexual dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:10 AM
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Could it be that women are initiating but ..just not with you? Yeah I’m sure having to make the first move is totally a unique experience for me only and ever other male is getting asked out 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:55 PM
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There’s no such thing as “the wall” for men, but you can believe that if it makes you feel better as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:52 PM
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This is true, but Josh is one loyal motherfucker 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:48 PM
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Being a healthy weight, and mildly fit, is the single biggest thing one can do for their attractiveness Bingo. Once people stop lying to themselves (and others) about this, the world will be a much better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 12:46 PM
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Not really shifted my views but more opened up my way of thinking and influenced the way I approach things. It’s always interesting to hear a woman’s perspective on some topics, and reading about experiences from the other gender. I don’t always agree, but it’s cool to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:17 AM
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If we’re talking about America the average person is a lot heavier than you think lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 02:08 AM
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A lot of women call men that they’re talking to “friends” though. I’d be interested to see how many of the guys considered that pre-dating stage a “friendship” rather than an attempt to get to know someone that you’d like to date. I know it goes against the study, but I am a strong believer in the idea that once a woman sees you as just a friend, she’ll never see you any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:37 PM
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Is sex on the first date that important to y’all, jeeze 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:30 PM
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No, I’m 29 and been through all that shit already. I want a relationship with a woman who ain’t trying to leave me for the next best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:39 PM
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Well you assumed wrong. Some of us are actually looking for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:25 PM
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So just skipping over the “and/or a relationship” part because it doesn’t fit your argument. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:16 PM
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I never said nothing about a man dating a bunch of women at the same time. This can happen if you’re literally dating one woman. Yes, relationships without commitment can end at any time. None of that changes what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:12 PM
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I’m happy for you. You are an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:04 PM
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obviously, what do you think gets more general support between “women don’t need men and are the prize that deserves everything”(modern feminism) and “women deserve the same rights as men”(your Oxford dictionary definition of feminism)?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 09:01 PM
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I haven’t been in a relationship that I wasn’t the initiator of If this is true I hope you recognize that this is not the norm at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:57 PM
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It is illogical. It’s whining about nuance. Why is it that women get upset being called females but men don’t get upset being called males? Why don’t you try calling men males and gauge their reactions? 99/100 men will not care. Y’all just leaaaaaaaan into this victim stuff way too hard and it makes the more serious issues not get taken as seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:53 PM
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So “kill all men”, “men are trash/garbage”, “I miss the times when men went to war and died”, “take all his money sis” and so on is just vocalization of mistreatment by men? None of this falls on women’s shoulders? This is exactly why we can’t get anywhere! Y’all see EVERYTHING as working against you and are so quick to dismiss everything in your favor! Yes a lot of women shit on men for shits and giggles, and a lot of them shit on men for the reasons you mentioned- but because you’re so caught …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:46 PM
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We just accept it and adapt. Y’all literally started a whole internet argument about people using the word “females” instead of “women” because you didn’t like the way it made you feel. Women don’t accept, they complain until things change in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:31 PM
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I have a hard time blaming modern women for hypergamy and shit like that, because to be honest, if I had unlimited options like they do, I would exercise the fuck out of that too. That being said, I don’t think I would attribute men’s disinterest to changing gender roles as much as I would attribute it to a recognition of opportunity cost. If you are a man who wants casual sex and/or a relationship, it will require you to “put yourself out there”, spend money, and make yourself vulnerable despit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 08:16 PM
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Feminism at its core is not a bad thing. It should be celebrated and encouraged, if the definition is in fact “equality for women”. The problem is, feminism doesn’t mean that anymore. It means shitting on men, complaining about gender norms that benefit you (the ability to monetize sex, no traditional expectation to be employed, not having to approach men/initiate relationships, not being expected to pay on dates, etc.) and eschewing personal responsibility (telling women they’ve messed up is se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:30 PM
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She is worth less value due to her sexual partners and her age? Some men might see it this way. For me personally, it’s less about your numbers and more about the concept. Chances are, throughout the 20s of this hypothetical woman’s life, she turned down numerous “good guys” who checked all her boxes and were ready to settle down. At that time, she “wasn’t ready for a relationship”, having fun draining the bank accounts of various different men every weekend while having no obligations or commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:42 PM
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No you didn’t. All you said is that men seek out bad options. If I’m the pursuer and a woman has the final say on whether or not we are in a relationship, my options are only as good as those who agree to date me. If you’re a woman, your options are whoever approaches you. It’s a false equivalence because in both situations women have the final say. Saying that men approach shitty women doesn’t change the fact that if a man approaches no women at all, his options are significantly less than a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:32 PM
5

Unless I’m just comparing fruits (in this example dating world be “fruits”) it’s a poor comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:24 PM
19

Posts like this just prove how completely out of touch women are with how the dating world operates from a male perspective. Comparing “men pursuing their options” to “women vetting their options” is like comparing apples to oranges. A lot of women HIGHLY overestimate the dating success that average men have based on their experiences as women. If an average man pick a “bad woman”, chances are he picked her out of MAYBE two or three potential options. If an average woman picks a “bad man”, she t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:13 PM
1

Considering both of our answers are completely anecdotal given our different experiences, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:58 PM
3

honestly, I’ve seen it happen to 8’s too. Not sure how big the gap is between 9’s and 10’s (probably pretty subjective) but I would assume if it’s happening to the 8’s, it’s happening to the 9’s too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:26 PM
8

How does having more options not equate to having better options? Having more options may not make the vetting/decision process easier, but the more options you have, the better chance you have at finding the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:21 PM
1

Hahahahaha so true man. I got way too many homies like that, it gets super annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:32 PM
5

I think what people underestimate is that when you are generally young and good-looking, a lot of people won’t take you seriously as a long-term dating option. I’ve dated so many girls who said I gave off “fuck boy” vibes when we first met, despite me not really doing anything fuck boy-ish. I’ve also talked to some good-looking women who can’t get guys to commit because those guys think she’s way out of their league and will end up riding the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:45 PM
2

Ima be honest, sports is one of the few things in life that brings me actual joy, so if I wanna throw a fit over it, I’m gonna throw a fit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:34 PM
0

“a guy who will listen to my emotional issues 24/7 but never display any signs of weakness himself, and is hot” FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:30 PM
3

Absolutely bang on. I’ve seen a “physical Chad” lose all his prospects after a vulnerable, emotional drunken night. The majority of women will lose all attraction for a man who is emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:00 AM
1

I honestly do not know. But if we’re talking about dating OPTIONS, does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:51 PM
1

Weren’t there women who were obsessed and sending love letters to psychotic criminals like Charles Manson and Richard Ramirez? I think that pretty much answers your question right there. Being a “boring” man is a death sentence in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:12 PM
5

I think they’re referring to ugly men/men with no dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:09 PM
-3

Like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 05:37 PM
-1

Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess. But if you’re a 40-year old woman in good shape who can’t find a man to commit to you, I bet I know the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 02:28 PM
1

To your first point, fair enough. It just seems that from my point of view, one side is willing to acknowledge (which is the first step in any compromise) their natural tendencies, and the other side is not. Therefore if there is going to be any “getting more bees with honey” strategy, I think it should be coming from the latter. The whole patriarchy thing is inaccurate, of course. But lets not forget that there were prolonged periods of time where men en masse legitimately thought women were su…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:45 PM
1

I disagree with the overall premise of your argument, but I understand where you’re coming from and I think this is a really great response that actually challenged my current way of thinking. Where you lost me (and where you will likely lose most men in this debate), is They were not complicit in the creation of these ideas or their acceptance by society. Sure, absolutely true. But this is the same argument that we men use when women bring up “the patriarchy” as the big bad boogeyman that conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:30 PM
1

How about women actually acknowledging their “flaws” instead of constantly playing victim and acting like men are always in the wrong? Women can go on and on about how “men are inherently horny” and “men will drop their wife for the hot 22-year old secretary” and no one bats an eye. A man says “women like to upgrade their men” and all hell breaks loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:24 PM
2

That was my point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:32 PM
6

How can one have an honest conversation when the majority of women don’t even believe hypergamy is a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:28 PM
12

They literally hate accountability so much that they make their own standards men’s fault. “I don’t date men under 6ft, because we live in a patriarchal society” “Women have to put on makeup and look pretty because we live in a patriarchal society. Also, I don’t wear makeup for men, I do it for myself” “Men don’t share their feelings because of the patriarchy, but also I’m turned off by an emotional man” Literally everything that women don’t like was “created by men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:50 PM
1

How in the hell are you going to talk about what’s “the norm” today? Seriously. Even without posting their age I can see how out of touch that comment was. Reminded me of a conversation my parents had with my teenage brother last week while he was job hunting, and they told him “just walk in there with your resume!” like this is the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:34 PM
3

I generally agree with that line of thinking, but does that mean that you don’t believe there has been an intentional effort by society to uplift women and create more opportunities for them than were usually available in the past? Because I think that would be disingenuous. I would argue that the societal focus (of the last ~15 years) on female financial liberation has generally been a good thing, despite its shortcomings. What would be the issue if society started to place an emphasis on liste…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:37 PM
10

Sex is to men, as attention is to women. Women get tons of attention from dating apps, so why would they quit? Would you quit tinder if you were getting laid every time you snapped your fingers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:30 PM
5

Come on now, even if they are exaggerating a bit I think there is a real discussion to be had here. Traditionally male careers like sports journalists/reporters, construction workers, and engineers are now flush with far more female employees than there used to be. Women are encouraged to pursue a variety of career paths these days, and even if they should forego a formal education, there are still the options of sex work, nannying, or just straight up gold-digging - the type of options that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 05:27 PM
3

Read your story, and I empathize with you and your friend both, as I’ve been there. Not sure why a lot of comments in this thread are focused on it “not really being cheating”, when in reality it was a relationship that was forming while other relationships were going on - to me, that’s cheating. Best advice I can give is that if someone wants to cheat, they will. No amount of phone access or anything else is going to change that. Trying to deter cheating by making a “phone access” rule will lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:02 AM
3

Bro what. That was a dark part of their history that happened over 70 years ago that they actually acknowledge, teach about in schools, and strongly publicly denounce at all levels. Everything this person wrote about our culture is both current AND accurate, and yet a lot of us still fail to acknowledge these glaring flaws. The fact that this was even your response shows that we have a lot of work to do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:09 PM
1

lmaooo I’m sorry you feel that way but all love to Bills and especially JA fans 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 01:55 AM
6

Why do women think they are deserving of relationships when they don’t do any work in vetting, attracting or talking to men? Because this is what we tell them from a young age, and perpetuate all throughout their adult lives. “You deserve a good man”, “you deserve better”, “you deserve this and that”. Based on what? My understanding of the word ‘deserve’ is that it is merit based, yet for some reason as long as you leave the womb with a vagina we tell you that you deserve the world. I have rarel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:59 PM
5

This is the key. Hot women have never had to work for anything in their lives, so they often times don’t put effort into relationships. Every hot woman I’ve dated in the past knew that they were hot, so put forth any effort? There will be another 15 guys waiting after they drop this one anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:32 PM
1

If you think this entire thing is men’s fault, you are 100% part of the problem. Thank you for sharing your views and proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:17 PM
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I honestly think its just pushback from the heavy dose of feminism and “believe all women” and whatnot we’ve been receiving in the media for the last few years. It will balance itself out and the pendulum will swing back eventually. The red pill will never be mainstream as long as those who control the narrative are blue pilled. They’ll just work hard to convince everyone that red pill = incel which = violence, and eventually the whole concept will be censored.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:20 PM
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Because for some reason, you never see opposite sexes of other cultures tearing each other down the way we do in the black community. Black men will say the nastiest things about black women, including making fun of their skin tones and just general comments that demean black women. Black women have typically stood up for black men (in my experience, more so in the past) but there is a new wave of black women who have adopted the mindset of shitting on all men, especially black men, because it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:16 PM
1

Everyone was giving you shit in that thread because you tried to make underage teenage boys look like predators for sharing nudes (which is definitely wrong, but the way you kept phrasing it made it sound like they were of age, sharing nudes of underage girls) and that this somehow equals “rape culture”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 02:03 PM
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Ok so maybe one shirtless pic, but not overdone is what y’all mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:50 PM
2

you have a shitty boyfriend clearly and it is his fault for being shitty. It is also your fault for enabling shitty behavior and staying in a relationship that sounds fucking terrible. You could leave this dude right now and find a man who appreciates even HALF the stuff you do for your current man, but we all know that won’t happen. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:34 AM
2

Women benefit from the patriarchy just as much as men do, but in different ways. We just threw a ‘P’ in-front of the word instead of an ‘M’ because we knew eventually you’d abdicate responsibility and blame men entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:45 PM
2

Because women pretend like these are not factors in their selection process at all, and instead like to pretend that they’re choosing mates based on “personality”. If the majority of women were honest, and actually dated guys who exhibited the characteristics they claim to be attracted to (instead of the opposite), less men would be upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:38 PM
2

“Foster intellectual growth” lmao most jobs don’t do that anyways. 80% of the time it’s about putting food on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:59 AM
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So you really comparing the taller dudes in this video to good looking girls? Because they were average af. The only thing most of them had going for them was that they were taller than the other dudes. Not one dude in this video stood out as more attractive than the rest. Women in general get to pretend that they aren’t as shallow as men, so when a video like this shows up obviously this sub will eat it up. It’s constantly parroted how important it is to “be yourself” and have “a good personali…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 01:33 AM
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They will duck around this forever because they don’t want to seem as shallow as men. But the same way we would pick good personality + good body over good personality + fat, women would too. They’re just afraid to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:34 PM
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We weren’t exposed to as much propaganda about the opposite sex. I don’t know about you, but looking back on it now it sure feels like we were. Stuff like “boys will be boys” and “girls just want a good man who treats them well” were ingrained in a lot of us from such a young age. I always wonder how different things would be if they came out and said stuff like “girls DO like nice guys, but they like nice guys THAT THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO” instead of spoon feeding us Disney bullshit. Girls might …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:24 PM
1

you are out of your goddamn mind if you think an alpha is having babies with a prostitute 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:08 PM
0

that’s why they don’t like him
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:52 PM
6

They do, you aren’t wrong. The huge difference between men and women in this regard is that there is a natural checks and balances system in society that will determine whether or not a guy actually is as good looking as he thinks he is. If a guy thinks he’s an 8 out of 10, but in reality he’s a 4, which women do you think he’s sleeping with, honestly? I’ll tell you- likely escorts, and women who are 2-4/10, at best. If a woman thinks she’s an 8 out of 10 but in reality she’s a 4, chances are sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 03:28 PM
2

You’re missing the point entirely, of course fat people know they are fat! I said fat, not blind! The problem is, for women we are now saying that fat = beautiful, which is untrue. And before you say “well why don’t you just do the same thing for guys?”, because I don’t believe that being fat is something that should be just ‘accepted’ (unless you have actual health problems like hypothyroidism). Instead of hyping up fat people, I want us to encourage them to lose weight. As soon as anybody sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 03:17 PM
6

Marriage benefits men more? In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:51 PM
1

I definitely don’t agree with Kevin on this take (I think Beyoncé is gorgeous as hell), but he’s a professional image consultant who is familiar with the industry and I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:33 PM
3

No that’s not what I’m talking about at all. I hype up my homeboys, but I’m also honest with them. If one of my homies is 5’5” and 250lbs and he posts a shirtless pic at the beach, I’ll like the picture but I’m not about to comment stuff like “omgggggg you look amazing” or “wow so gorgeous” (or in guy versions “fire pic bro” or “looking good man”). I’m just gonna like the pic and keep it moving. Girls do this thing where they feel the need to OVERLY boost their fat friends to the point where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:31 PM
1

If you don’t like fat women, them having super high and wildly inappropriate standards is GOOD for you because then you can disregard them from the get go even sooner. Sure, in a vacuum. The problem is, there are other moving parts in this equation- the higher fat women standards are (or are perceived to be), the higher non-fat women standards become (because why would you be competing with someone in a lower league than you?), and the more impossible it becomes for regular non-fat men to get wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:23 PM
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What a lot of these women are failing to understand is that even if some/most of us don’t want to date fat women, that doesn’t diminish their impact on the sexual marketplace. If a fat women gives her input on men, she is still validated by other women. If a fat woman gives her input on her body, she is validated by other women. Have you ever seen a post of a fat woman that didn’t have 10+ comments talking about how “beautiful” “brave” “pretty” or “gorgeous” she is? If anyone can find me one pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:46 PM
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Yes, because we place a value on men’s status. Love how you conveniently skipped over that part and then jumped to gaslighting. Took one part of the entire sentence and jumped to your own conclusion. Women and ducking accountability, name a better combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:27 PM
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For the longest time, the only power women had in society was what was between their legs. Eventually, society actually started treating them with respect (like we should have been) instead of like second-class citizens, and the pendulum swung wayyyyy over to the other side. Now they can do no wrong, you can’t criticize a woman or her decisions, and if she makes bad ones, you can’t criticize those either because it was probably a man’s fault. It’s crazy to me, because I’ll watch a show like The …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:24 PM
11

It’s a shame that that’s how you choose to see it, and painting it as a “society vs. women” problem is why we can’t make any progress. As a male, I am not upset by having to pay for first dates, or ask women out, or anything else ‘traditionally male’. Society has different standards for *both genders. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:12 PM
9

When you say “men do the exact same thing”, do you mean that men tear men down for their looks? Or that men think they are better looking than they actually are? Because if it’s the latter, I definitely agree. The problem is, in society we don’t place as much of a value on men’s looks as we do women’s. For men, it’s status. If a broke man got up here and started talking about how “he’s just as good as Leonardo DiCaprio but no one is giving him a chance”, he would be torn to shreds. Society value…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 01:05 PM
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I think that could have been phrased better, but I don’t believe what they said is wrong. Have you ever seen Kevin Samuel’s show? Women volunteer to debate with him, and when he asks them what they would give themselves on a scale of 1-10, they ALWAYS rank themselves at a minimum of 8. Think about that- they all believe they are in the top 80th percentile of women, LOOKS-WISE. When he tells them that in the real world, and in the world of Image Consulting that someone like Beyoncé would be consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:56 PM
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That’s absolutely fair. But if a woman only likes 6’5” guys, and every single 6’5” she dates treats her like shit, don’t be surprised if she doesn’t receive any sympathy from her peers. I would feel the same way if a guy said he only likes blondes. People with strict preferences don’t get to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 11:22 AM
3

I’m not sure how I was supposed to infer that from “I only know 40 men who want to pump and dump me”, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:33 AM
3

I’m not invalidating your experience at all. I’m just trying to provide rationale for why I think (based on my limited knowledge of you) you struggle to find men who want to commit. You’re obviously more than welcome to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:59 AM
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Hey midwestufohunter, good to see ya again 😂 I only know 40 men who want to pump and dump me. If you want to make it personal, I do recall us having a discussion about body image in a previous thread. I obviously don’t know you at all outside of the context of these two conversations, but knowing men, I think I can hazard a guess as to why (as shallow as it is).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:42 PM
14

I 100% agree with you, but it does not help when we are constantly gaslit by society into believing that women are disadvantaged in all aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:20 PM
14

I see on certain subs where the relationship ends and women try to improve. They lose weight, take a trip, buy a house and it’s celebrated. Why don’t men do that? LOL is this serious? This is basically the foundation of the red pill. Maybe the reason you aren’t seeing these is because you’re ignoring it, because almost every “glow-up” story I’ve seen involves a man doing everything you listed above.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:13 PM
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“In previous eras” men would woo a woman, and then she would decide whether or not they were going to be together. In today’s day and age, a man woos a woman at the same time as 40 other men, and that woman can choose to abuse her position of power (as a gatekeeper of both sex and relationships) in order to get what she wants. Many women can, and will do this. So as a man in today’s era, do you want to put in 40x as much work as your dad did for a 2.5% chance at success?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:48 PM
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I know it’s already been said a million times but thank you for saying this. All most of us are asking for is for y’all to acknowledge your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:40 PM
2

I guess that’s your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:43 PM
2

You could say the same thing about Emma Watson.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:35 PM
3

For the same reason women are obsessed with Zac Efron, even though there are taller, more successful actors out there. It’s a childhood nostalgia thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 02:23 PM
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there seems to be this idea that you can keep fucking other people other than your partner because “we never had a conversation agreeing to be exclusive.” This, so much this. I’m American but when I was growing up (90s) it felt way different. If you liked someone and they liked you back, you would just date and there was no conversation about “exclusivity”. Then I started dating in the 2010’s and it was all this “yeah, I like [guy 1] but [guy 2] is so much better in bed, and I have a really stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:47 PM
0

I’ve, personally, never known women who talk like this. Ok, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I dated a girl who’s group chats were all exactly like this, I saw them for myself. I feel like this is part of the reason why people lash out about not feeling valued in society- all your experiences are countered with “well I don’t know anyone who does that!”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 03:46 AM
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Mostly true, but of course there are exceptions. If they are friends and attracted to each other, then they’ve either hooked up or will in the future (at the female’s discretion). If they’re friends and not attracted to each other it’s just a normal friendship. I have lots of female friends; I have the strongest friendship bonds with the ones I’m not attracted to, and the ones I am attracted to I have typically had flings with in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:18 AM
4

Richard Ramirez... the list goes on and on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:37 PM
1

I feel like this is one of those answers that might vary from woman to woman. Like one woman might find confidence in the fact that a man approached her at all, where another woman might find the guy who didn’t approach her confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:04 AM
3

They’re about 2 comments away from telling you to “do your own research”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:09 AM
3

that is definitely good to know. just based off of what you can see do you have potential fixes for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:05 AM
2

Interesting! I don’t think we pay enough attention to the facts that our mind can and does play tricks on us. I’ve learned in my sessions that so much of what I thought were obvious flaws were just my own internalizations. I’m glad you figured that out - this has been one of my more enjoyable conversations on this sub, so thank you. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 05:00 AM
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My definition of success tends to vary, but across platforms i typically define it as getting dates. That’s totally fair, you, and these women have both deemed these messages low effort, and therefore unworthy of a response. My problem is, where is the line drawn? Of course I could’ve given more effort (and have in the past), but the final result is same. As a result, I haven’t given up entirely, but I’m also not going to spend 10 minutes thinking of something clever for every girl I match with.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:52 AM
2

Hahahaha well damn. My therapist is female and she’s awesome. Definitely helping me work through a lot of this stuff, but they don’t call it trauma for no reason. I noticed in another comment you mentioned something about PTSD, so I know I don’t have to explain that to you. You get burned enough and you start not to trust the stove anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:56 AM
6

If I looked 50% as good in shorts as he does, I wouldn’t be posting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:48 AM
1

Well then maybe I don’t know what love is. But all I know is that I want to be the most attractive version of myself. If that involves working towards others’ approval AND it’s beneficial for me, I don’t see what the issue is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:47 AM
1

Like I said, I think we’ll have to agree to disagree! Looks like some methods work on some people, and others need a different way. The concept of not trying to please others is cool, but also super unrealistic. We are social beings who survive through forming interpersonal relationships as we always have. There will always be an innate need for approval, whether that comes from those we actually care about, or others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:33 AM
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Funny that you say that. In my experience, they complain about everything- I’ve had far more success with lewd one-liners than when I actually take the time to read the girl’s profile and start an interesting conversation. Here are five conversations I’ve had with five different women on Hinge - none of have responded since the most recent message. For reference in the second picture, her profile said “the way to her heart is through playlists”. Now I’m not saying that I’m entitled to dates with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:27 AM
1

Those studies count 5 years as long term success. I guess I will update you in six months then. Actually haven’t even seen The Shining (I know, I’m terrible) or the sequel but this sounds interesting. I guess people are just wired differently. For example, my brother and I grew up in the same household with the same parents, but we’re both motivated differently- he’s motivated by always striving for perfection and I’m motivated by doubters. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with how we’re wir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:56 AM
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Yes we know, we refer to that as privilege, and it’s exactly why men who aren’t receiving messages have zero sympathy for girls who complain that they are receiving too many. Do you know how many guys on this sub would be happy with a “hey wassup/nm hbu/ok cool haha” conversation? Let me guess, you don’t care. Privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:40 AM
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Long term as in I haven’t been overweight for four and a half years, and didn’t gain it back despite the gym being closed due to Covid. So I think all we are looking at is different approaches to the same problem. Shame was not a motivating factor for you when it came to your weight loss decision, and in fact it was debilitating (correct me if I’m wrong). For me, it was the exact opposite- shame about my body made me more conscious of what I was eating and how it made me feel. Either way, we are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:32 AM
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I appreciate you trying to take an objective approach, and I know I’m being facetious with my comments, but it’s honestly just such a tiring argument to read. 100+ messages means 100+ matches. Do you really think any girl intends on talking to 100+ plus guys? If not, then why match? You know you’ll get flooded with messages, it’s better to be selective. I’m not hating on the guys who got messages back, sometimes I’ve been lucky enough to be that guy. I’m just not going to sympathize with women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:53 AM
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I mean you can say all that, but I’m living proof that you can have long-term success with weight loss by using extrinsic motivators, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. So what is your take on being fat then? Should fat people lose weight if they are motivated by self-improvement only? And if they aren’t, they should just stay fat until they are eventually intrinsically motivated?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:45 AM
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gotta get that sweet dopamine rush from finding out that someone finds you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:41 AM
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you just weren’t one of them thanks for clarifying, I was unsure after 10 days of her not responding
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:39 AM
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Getting rid of fatness or anything else that relates to how others might negatively perceive you isn’t how you gain confidence and efficacy. And this my friend, is where we disagree. I think this line of thinking (as glass-half-full as it might be) is somewhat damaging. It creates the illusion or impression that people are 100% totally okay as they are, and that there’s no need to improve because people should just like/love them the way they are. While this is nice, this is not reality. Losing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:37 AM
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Oh my god so many messages, how tragic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:27 AM
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So much to unpack here. most men don’t want to court women and don’t want to work high paying jobs just to impress women. Yes, and those men are losing in the social dating game just like fat girls are, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here. Do you think women want to date fat men as much as thin men? Nope definitely not. But I know women are much more likely to overlook their partner’s weight if they bring other things to the table ( like the stuff I mentioned). Men? Not so much…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:23 AM
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If their identity is wrapped in politics then we have to agree, I find politics is rarely ever made up of civil conversations and discourse, especially in today’s super-charged climate. I appreciate different political viewpoints in doses, but I don’t want to spend my relationship arguing with someone over which side of the government is more corrupt. If their identity isn’t super wrapped up in politics then I would at least appreciate that we share similar values on things that are important an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 12:05 AM
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Thanks, will definitely check it out!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:59 PM
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Ok laziness I guess? I’m just confused, because when it comes to men attracting women, we know what has to be done. You either hit the genetic lottery, are high status, or have money. For women you... have to not be fat? Basically what I’m trying to say is a fat man has other means of achieving a relationship (funny, has lots of money, a celeb) and based on what is important to women, he can do so while still being fat. Most men are just attracted to good-looking women, which typically means not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:57 PM
2

People who start diets for two weeks and give up because they only lost 0.5 lbs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:51 PM
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This is way easier to do when you don’t feel like the fat-positive wave is being pushed on you. I swiped left on an overweight chick and my brother’s gf claimed I was “fat-phobic” because I wasn’t attracted to her. That’s like calling me a bigot because I only swipe right on women. Apparently “society” has conditioned us to only like fit people, and we need to change that way of thinking according to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:49 PM
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70% of women are fat? That’s wild to me. Also what’s stopping that 70% from losing weight? It’s like the bare minimum required from women...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:43 PM
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What an interesting and enlightening conversation to read. You never insulted her once, and when you pointed out potential holes in her dating strategy she immediately resorted to name-calling. I’m already reading too much into her situation, but it seems fairly obvious why she raised two kids alone and is still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:33 PM
5

always look at the hands, the hands don’t lie
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:36 PM
4

they never said the curve had to be neat, they just said it will eventually follow a normal distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:34 PM
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I just hate the idea of having to pay someone money to spend time/be physical with me, it honestly makes me feel worse about myself lol. Like am I that bad that the only way someone is gonna “like me” is if I pay them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 01:57 AM
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bruh just woke up and started spitting facts
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:53 PM
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lmao this is all so true. I’m not looking for anything right now + you’re such a great guy anyone would be lucky to have you, and in two months she got a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:46 PM
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Exactly. It’s like saying “not everyone in the NBA is tall!” because you found 4 people under 6’0”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:43 PM
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My favorite part is always how women eschew actual scientific research and data in favor of their personal experiences in order to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:40 PM
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Not once did I say AWALT or any of these other generalizations you’re throwing on me but ok. Continue to generalize those of us who could empathize with your struggle and try and facilitate meaningful change within the rest of our male counterparts. We’ll worry about us and y’all worry about yourselves, and we’ll both continue to not move forward in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 08:11 PM
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The problem when women say this is that for those of us who are decent but still don’t get dates, we’ll obviously think you’re grouping us in with them. Would it kill women to change the narrative from “men are trash” to “some men are trash”? I know it don’t hit the same but you’d do a much better job of not alienating potential allies in your struggle. FWIW I read your post and it was pretty eye opening for me, I had never considered that so thank you for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 06:33 PM
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Thank you for this perspective. The “having to be chill” pressure is something I’ve never considered, and I can definitely see that being a pressure that y’all face in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:59 PM
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real talk. I dated this girl in my mid twenties who was ugly for most of her adolescent life. She got a BF when she was 20 (and still semi-ugly), they dated for 5 years, and he used to put hands on her. We started dating when we was 26, and I treated her great. Right when I was falling for her, she left my ass on some “Hot Girl Summer” shit cause she wants to experience the world 🤦🏾‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:21 PM
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you said they were “normal to pretty” looking girls, now they’re the “fat/ugly friend”? Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:15 PM
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the bar might be on the floor but y’all are the ones who put it there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:11 PM
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Think about it for a moment. How many articles about “Why aren’t females womaning up, getting in shape and not being ugly?” instead, they’re just fed the idea that they are completely fine the way they are, they have nothing to improve/work on, and that any man would be lucky to have them just because they are a living, breathing human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 05:05 PM
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woman gets knocked up by a man known to be a deadbeat “Omg men are so trash, I can’t believe he did that to me, all men are the same” woman gets in a relationship with a known abuser, gets abused “Omg men are so trash, how could he do that to me, all men are garbage” woman solicits cash from strangers online by showing nudes, proceeds to be verbally harassed by strangers online “Omg men are so trash, I can’t believe that happened” What do all of these situations have in common? A trash male, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 04:55 PM
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I ALMOST agree with you! I do 100% agree that men don’t understand (or typically care to understand) women’s struggles in the dating world. But I also believe that the two struggles are not equivalent. At all. While having an abundance of undesirable individuals chase after you and fawn over you can and will eventually get tiring, what I think women are missing when they come to this conclusion is that there are options in the first place. Yes, you don’t even think about dating the 50-year old g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:59 PM
2

Let me put it to you this way. Lets say you take the same way to work every day. It’s totally fine, there’s nothing wrong with your commute, it can take you 5 min if you’re in a hurry, or 15 min if you wanna take the scenic route. Regardless, if you want, you will always get to work. Now one day some random person comes up to you and says “hey, you can actually take this route to work, it’s 30 min longer and you gotta go through a couple dangerous neighborhoods to get there, and there’s also no …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:53 PM
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I’m gonna disagree because this sounds more like someone’s personal feelings rather than a general consensus. Firstly, you seem to drawing an equivalent between being a virgin and also being “the best partner possible”, which I think is false. Lots of people (myself included) aren’t looking for virgins, and I don’t believe there to be a correlation between how good of a partner someone is/can be and their virginity (different discussion for a different day I guess). Secondly, I’ve heard some guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 02:58 PM
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Why do you care? Feminists have been called ugly and been accused of not being able to find a man since literally the dawn of feminism. Didn't stop them, why are you letting it stop you? Newsflash, being called “ugly” or “not being able to find a man” are completely subjective terms that don’t insinuate anything about a woman’s character. Incels are considered violent, extremist, and misogynistic by society- Canada’s RCMP has labeled them a terrorist group. So if you genuinely care about men’s r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:12 PM
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Because society values different things for different sexes. Men - money, status Women - looks It’s the same reason why some people might think negatively about a woman who chooses to pursue her career instead of the traditional family dynamic, and those same people wouldn’t blink twice if a man made that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 05:19 PM
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As soon as the words “men’s rights” leave your mouth, you’re labeled an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:40 PM
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