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It was always given as a criticism of men who couldn’t get the date in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:24 PM
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Meanwhile: https://theredarchive.com/r/Chadfish/so-far-the-biggest-blackpill-ive-came-across-with.242497
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:22 PM
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That’s the neat part. They pretend like it was always meant to be interpreted that way and under those circumstances and that if you didn’t catch that, then you must be mentally handicapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:05 PM
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The vaginal hivemind already circled the bandwagons and have two stock responses ready since this claim has too much evidence for it being absolute horseshit: Once you’re already in a relationship. For men which they’re already physically attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:31 PM
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Chad needs to get on a loudspeaker like The Humungus from that scene in Mad Max and make one final plea with men: “Just walk away. There has been too much violence and too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise: Just give me your women and walk away. That will be the end of the horror”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:29 PM
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His very survival in the dating world relies on proving his worth through actions rather than just existing as a status symbol. His survival depends on women choosing him. Their criteria for this selection is physical desirability. If he has none, that’s what he needs to work on obtaining, not attentiveness or empathy. Women aren’t fucking his personality. If this is something otherwise out of his grasp no matter what he does due to a poor genetic roll of the dice, then video games and pornograp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:10 AM
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If men ever feel like they’re insane for having the sense that people, society, and the world in general seems like a much colder, uncaring, lonelier place for them than it is for women, look at what trans men have to say on the matter. They’ve lived on both sides of the fence. These two testimonials are particularly striking: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2uz3JJ50erc https://np.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/vrb5ga/socialization_and_men/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:07 PM
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The result? More men opting out. More men prioritizing their own fulfillment over the outdated idea of being a provider. More men realizing that if women won’t admit what they really want, there’s no point playing the game by the old rules. Good. Women don’t care about men or anything they say, feel, think, or do. The red pill lied to you. The opinions of men mean absolutely nothing to women. The less physically undesirable men pestering them for dates and sex, the better. The only conceivable w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:28 PM
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but he told me a few days ago that he has only dated girls from other cultures before (white, Russian, Korean) and after hearing this I felt a little uncomfortable, nervous. Until he shows actual concrete evidence of his claims, do not believe a word he says about these supposed other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:38 PM
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Get a boyfriend like you normally do. Except this time, instead of drawing from the same small pool of attractive men all the other women are drawing from as well, draw one from the sexually invisible majority of men. Proceed as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:55 AM
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You wouldn’t give a woman you found unattractive a “fair chance” either, so why should women? Stopped reading here. I have said repeatedly you have every right to judge anyone based on any criteria you see fit. Men only feel like they don’t have options because they waste time chasing women out of their league instead of dating the women who are actually interested in them. No women are actually interested in them. Most men are unattractive to most women. I have said repeatedly this is not a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:31 AM
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And? You’re proving my point. Just because a woman has options doesn’t mean they’re good options. You guys act like any attention is a win for women, but what exactly do you think these options are? Low-effort hookups? Men who see us as easy targets? Attention doesn’t equal value You don’t know if they were good options. You gave each and every single one of those a men a fair chance? No, you looked at them, thought they were ugly, and rejected them. As you rightfully should. And let’s be real—y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:34 AM
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Yes. And women will happily gestate and raise man’s kid. If he’s worth it. On that condition, women view the vast majority of men as non-viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:19 PM
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All I said was it was an event, but every woman’s mind immediately conjured up the image that were being thrown into a rape-dungeon. Interesting that’s immediately where their mind goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:17 PM
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Nope. Studies like those from Pew Research show that when young adults without children are asked about wanting kids, a significantly higher percentage of men (around 57%) say they want them compared to women (around 45%) Over half of one gender wants children, less than half of the other does. Men find or plan on finding economic success to begin taking taking care of women and children, women find or plan on finding economic success to get away from men. Now, that choice is available to them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:15 PM
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Most men are unattractive to most women. So, if the non-interest applies to the majority, that’s normal. That’s men. The minority of attractive men might as well exist as a different category.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:53 PM
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No, I said equality with men was the cause. They can’t act on their inherent, natural distaste for most men when they need to depend on them. Now, they’re equal to men and can actually act on their distaste for most men because they don’t need to depend on them anymore. And that’s precisely what they’re doing. None of this is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:50 PM
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Your post: “I considered myself a low value large woman and still had infinitely more options than any young man in the prime of his youth. I just didn’t like any of my options, just like every other group of women”. Women don’t like men. And that’s fine. You’re not supposed to. Women are nature’s filtration system, you’re not supposed to allow the average man to pass on his subpar genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:00 PM
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Maybe ask the question if a straight man would enter an event with no one but gay men and see if they’d say yes. Right. Heterosexual men do not have any romantic or sexual interest in men. This is exactly how women feel about the vast majority of men. Women do not like men. Thank you for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:43 AM
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Right. Women are discriminatory towards men from everything to simple socializing to dating to sex to marriage in a way that no man could or would ever be towards women. Women are not “just like men” are the original commenter posited.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:38 AM
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You made an argument that women hate men and want nothing to do with them and that this is the primary reason for the demographic "nosedive". I never said they hate men. I said they don’t like men. And I also never said them not liking men was the cause of anything. I said their equality to men was what causes it. Equality is emancipation. And once emancipated from depending on men, they lose absolutely all interest in partnering with them and bearing their children. Are you arguing that heteros…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:31 AM
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Okay, now pretend all these religious institutions preached the exact opposite message: No sex, no children, at all, ever. Who would have more of a problem with that? Men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:28 AM
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I really tried to make it simple for you. And failed. Do men need religious piety, pressure, or obligation to ignite their desire to partner and have sex and breed with women? No. Actually yes, economic factors did kill my desire to ejaculate inside a woman before because I knew I couldn't afford to have a baby. The image of 18 years of child support made me go soft immedaitely. Yet if given the opportunity, you’re still engaging in the one activity that has the risk of producing children. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:00 AM
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Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:40 AM
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Blaming the demographic decline on women not liking men is a huge oversimplification. You're ignoring economic factors, decline of religion, etc. No, that’s the oversimplication. Did economic factors or the decline of religion ever kill your desire to ejaculate inside of women? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:18 AM
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You’re offered to attend an event where there will be nothing but the opposite gender in attendance. Man will say yes. Woman will say absolutely not. Women are not just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:15 AM
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A key difference is that women from other parts of the world actually like men Women do not like men and never have and never will. This isn’t peculiar to any country or culture, it’s in their biological nature. Look at non-Western parts of the world where women have achieved economic, educational, legal, and occupational equality with men. They’re in the same situation as every Western country: Complete demographic nosedive. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, and now, even China,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:03 AM
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The majority of women in that group who had JUST got out the mental hospital were happily married And the men in that group?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:32 PM
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We see women suspecting weaponised in competence but men seem more happy to accept they their GFs are rubbish at things. Men seem more than happy to accept faults and flaws in their partner because men are grateful to have the relationship. Being grateful for having a relationship is something beyond alien to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:23 PM
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No, that’s the average man’s experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:27 PM
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These cliches are insanely overused and are seen as the best sort of dating advice to give in my opinion this stuff has overstayed its welcome. If you’re struggling to get women interested in you on an intimate basis, you don’t need advice because there is absolutely nothing wrong with you. All it means is that you’re a normal, average man. There is nothing more sexually invisible to women than the normal, average man. It would be unusual if you had no trouble attracting women. This would place …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:18 PM
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If she’s looking for red or green flags to decide whether or not she likes you, she doesn’t like you. If you think she gives a flying fiddler’s fuck if Chad has a “consent app,” she doesn’t. Leave her and never look back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:21 AM
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Women chase men they’re interested in. If not outright, then they will make it abundantly clear by going out of their way to make conversation, keep their attention, and behave in an overtly feminine fashion. The problem is most men have never seen nor socialized with a man physically attractive enough to evoke such a reaction from women. This leads to the widely held cultural belief that women don’t approach and the man must take that role and act upon it. No. If she doesn’t speak to you or ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:25 PM
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Women chase men they’re interested in. If not outright, then they will make it abundantly clear by going out of their way to make conversation, keep their attention, and behave in an overtly feminine fashion. The problem is most men have never seen nor socialized with a man physically attractive enough to evoke such a reaction from women. This leads to the widely held cultural belief that women don’t approach and the man must take that role and act upon it. No. If she doesn’t speak to you or ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:22 AM
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Play by the same rules, and don’t settle for less than what you deserve. You can’t. Men have absolutely zero leverage against a woman’s complete and natural sexual disinterest. In a woman’s eyes, the majority of normal, average men are a static image of a collective blob that exists in the background, total non-sexual entities on every level. Unless Chad. Then there’s leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 11:42 PM
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No, it doesn’t sound like an issue of self-image.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:02 PM
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If you’re a man and she’s a woman, she’s settling by default. Unless Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:13 PM
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The men who have noticed this blame it on "female nature," but the truth is nature has nothing to do with it. No, it’s absolutely natural. Every country where women achieved equality with men has experienced a complete demographic nosedive. If economic, educational, legal, and occupational parity with men is all it takes to kill any desire or motivation for women to partner with men, this is proof that women have no natural biological instinct to be attracted to men. Their “attraction” is entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:55 AM
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That’s ideal for women who don’t want children as long as they also don’t cohabitate or share finances. Why can’t they have children? It’s not against the law to be a single mother. No cohabitation, no sharing finances (with the sole exception of child support).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:02 PM
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Agreed. This is why women should accept being “forever girlfriends” - infinitely easier to drop everything and leave at any given moment for any transgression, big or small, real or perceived, or for absolutely no reason at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:13 PM
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Women don’t force men they’re physically to to jump through hoops before allowing intimacy to occur. They fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:44 PM
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attraction like a non-negotiable Correct. you should invest NO money into any dates you have with women unless they're already your girlfriend or wife Somewhat correct. You should invest zero money into anything that isn’t your wife or girlfriend, including dating. Dating is treating attraction like it’s negotiable. If she has to “date” you to figure out if she’s attracted to you, she’s not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:23 AM
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Are unattractive men doomed Yes. If you want to be desired like a physically attractive man, become physically attractive. If you can’t, be grateful for whatever you can get or buy a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:51 AM
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Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:37 AM
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Which invokes and is predicated upon heterosexual activity which invokes both a man and a woman. The fact that you just woke up one day and decided it’s everything the man wants and nothing the woman wants does not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:15 AM
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Hetero = Different. Two different genders. Something involving two different genders is not “male centered”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:52 PM
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Yes, it does. It just so doesn’t happen to fit within your bullshit made-up definition of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:46 PM
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Everything you described fits into heteronormative sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:40 PM
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vibrators shouldn’t exist if you have a man, oral is ‘extra’ and ‘unnecessary’, women must be submissive and do what scrotes say No to everything. The average man would not jeopardize his sexual access to a woman over any of this bullshit. The attractive minority with endless options, possibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:26 PM
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Look at the amount of men who don’t give oral. The small minority who have endless options and can afford to dismiss things which don’t personally appeal to them. The average man would be over the moon if this was the only sexual activity you allowed him to engage in. Yes it does. No, it doesn’t. And regardless, that still proves my point Because heterosexual men have no interest in engaging in non-heteronormative sexual activity. The fact that this is the only example you can think of proves yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:10 PM
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No, it’s incorrect. I just explained why. If this still isn’t clear to you, look how men react to female fetishes that don’t generally benefit men. This doesn’t exist and if it does, it, without fail, involves inserting something into the anal cavity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:54 PM
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It’s not an incorrect assertion Couldn’t be more incorrect if someone paid you an ungodly amount of money to make it more incorrect. Men value sex on a level no woman could or would ever understand and would do anything they were told to do sexually by a woman, even if it meant just dry humping them with both parties fully clothed. The average man is starved for sex and would go to the ends of the earth to keep the woman happy sexually. The small minority of physically attractive men who have en…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:17 PM
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Your words verbatim. Majority of men don’t offer anything on a sexual level Correct. They’ve been conditioned to believe sex is for them and something they do to women. Not a mutual experience Incorrect. Women have no sexual interest in the majority of men because they find the majority of men to be physically unattractive. What does the majority of women having low self esteem have to do with this convo? Absolutely nothing to do with anything I said or that you said in your first post.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:59 PM
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No, it’s because women just think they’re ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:48 PM
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they'll have a conversation and learn more about whether or not they're talking with an asshole. And still be attracted to him. no longer want to sleep with her because her looks aren't enough to outweigh her being an asshole. Okay. Now, what if she wanted to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:21 PM
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This is entirely projection; desperate men will do anything to get pussy. This doesn’t mean women are desperate for dick. Nothing to do with anything I said. Female arousal isn’t some rare precious unicorn gem Yes, it is. This is why women place barriers of entry in the form of courtship and financial investment before allowing men to engage in intimate contact with them. If the man genuinely triggered her attraction on a physical level, no such barriers are placed in his way. normie women are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:19 PM
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People know within 5 seconds of looking at someone if they want them or not. Attraction is not something under our control and it cannot be negotiated. It’s either there or it isn’t. What decides whether it’s there or it isn’t? Physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:59 PM
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Most men are of absolutely zero romantic or sexual interest to women. When a man appeals to a woman on a physical level, this is so exceedingly rare, they’re willing to compromise on whatever bad behaviors he may exhibit (if he has any, attractive men are not automatically bad people). This is something men can not understand because they see women who appeal to them on a physical level every time they leave their house.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:50 PM
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Then it’s not a woman going after “bad men”, it’s a woman going after attractive men. Yes. A woman can actually be legitimately mentally ill, abused, traumatized, product of a broken home, gullible, dysfunctional, maladjusted, easily manipulated and every other excuse under the sun, and she will still reject physically unattractive men no matter what personality traits they exhibit. Attractive men are attractive to women. Whether or not that woman in question is perfectly normal or a full-blown …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:55 PM
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Or maybe they’re perfectly normal women who are attracted to physically attractive men. If they decide his “red flags” are worth tolerating in exchange for what he has to offer them on a physical and sexual level, what’s wrong with that? Why does this imply they’re “mentally ill” for deciding his pros outweigh his cons?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:10 PM
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Simultaneously, I've also seen tons of posts on Reddit (and a few real life accounts) of women saying they don't get approached anymore and it's disheartening They do not want the broad majority of men approaching them because the broad majority is unattractive and therefore their attention is entirely unwanted. They are lamenting not being approached or receiving attention from the small minority of men in the highest percentile of physical attractiveness. The system is now functioning as women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:55 AM
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Men don't like older women And most women don’t like most men of any age. Why? There is no wall for women. Men are born at the wall. Is it possible for her to find herself a man who loves her truely despite her being past the wall when the two of them met? That’s up to the woman in question. Women choose men, men don’t choose women. Why? There is no wall for women. Men are born at the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 05:48 AM
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No, they haven’t been forced to admit that. The biggest reason for this being that it isn’t true. The Black Pill is also not this (your words verbatim): For the black pill, it’s not about having a relationship with a woman, it’s about male superiority over females. Sex isn’t something fun you do together, it’s about the “female” offering herself to the male and submitting to him Wrong on both counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:12 AM
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Nope. Black Pill is simply the belief that the single determining factor in a man’s dating success is physical appearance, nothing more, nothing less. The belief is also commonly known as “objective reality”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:00 AM
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Irrelevant Entirely relevant. One has standards that could be met, the other has nothing. And never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:08 AM
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Hope that makes sense. It doesn’t. One kind of attention is unwanted because it does not meet the standards to reciprocate such attention. The other kind is unwanted because it’s based on a dynamic that does not exist and therefore there are no standards to expect, enforce, or meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:48 AM
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The comparison is correct, but not in the way which you’re contending. The amount of romantic and sexual interest most women have for most men is the same amount of romantic and sexual interest heterosexual men have for homosexual men: Absolutely zero. This does not change as women age. Your chances of obtaining sexual interest from a “young, desirable” woman are the exact same as obtaining sexual interest from an “older, undesirable” women: Absolutely zero. The difference is women are never thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:29 AM
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You understand that this isn’t true right? Yes, it is. If you’re claiming sexual options even THAT isn’t true lmfao. Yes, it is. Do you really believe a man if he wanted can’t download Grindr and having thousands of dudes wanting to fuck them? Same as you. Applicable only to homosexuals of which sexual orientation is not under one’s decision or control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:05 AM
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older undesirable women Yet “older, undesirable” women have infinitely more options than any male in the prime of his youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:04 AM
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They should be choosing better. Women choose men, men don’t choose women. This is why the idea that a man’s thoughts, feelings, opinions, or preferences are ever taken into consideration by women is absolutely ludicrous. There is nothing women care about less than what men want. Unless Chad. Then they care a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:44 PM
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Priests are not monks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:21 PM
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Like why even stay in the relationship at that point? They shouldn’t. Their standards were not met. They should leave. Women are happier alone if the alternative is being with men who won’t/can’t meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:18 PM
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No, my argument is not that living without it incurs negative consequences The problem is that we're a social sex species. You won't die without sex, but repressing a natural urge is not all that good for your psyche Yea, it is. It's that being restrained from doing a natural thing for no reason incurs negative consequences. People are restrained and restricted from having sex for a variety of reasons. Why does it matter? The end result is the same: Living without something which you do not need…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:50 AM
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Whether it’s by choice, pressure, or never having a choice to begin with, you’re still living without something which is not a need. You don’t need sex. Your argument is that living without sex incurs negative consequences on the well-being of the person living without it. Therefore, they could just mitigate these negatives consequences by building stronger bonds and relationships with their friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:29 AM
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Plenty of people are unable to find romantic partners and thus are pressured to live without sex and even basic intimacy. They get along just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:06 AM
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Per OP: In states with more abortion restrictions women have to be more cautious and go to ridiculous lengths to safeguard their health Predicated upon the notion that just remaining celibate is never an option. The “need” to be more cautious is assuming the need exists because the “need” for sex exists. It doesn’t. Sex is not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:04 AM
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If they do, it's because they are choosing to do so Right. So, why can’t women choose to not have sex as well? If not having sex does indeed incur negative consequences as you’re suggesting, then why can’t sex and intimacy just be replaced with cultivating fulfilling relationships with friends and family?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:58 AM
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Monks and nuns live without sex just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:27 AM
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Why should people have to be celibate? No one has to be anything. All of the potential negative consequences of having sex could be nullified by not having sex. What’s ludicrous is suggesting that they “have to be more cautious” as OP stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:26 AM
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In states with more abortion restrictions women have to be more cautious Why do they need to be more cautious? Why can’t they just become celibate? If it causes such massive potential deficits to their health and well-being, they can just not have sex? It’s not a need. You won’t die without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 04:17 AM
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This goes especially for men who just want to have short-term relationships and lots of sex, you will have so much more "success" by being a lying, manipulative, awful human being than being kind and honest. Hot. You will have “short-term relationships and lots of sex” if you’re hot. Whether or not you’re a good or bad person is incidental. (especially men) who are kind & honest get a bit jaded when they see awful human beings get "rewarded" with more "success" than them? Ugly. Ugly men become j…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:24 AM
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The post is directed at Red Pill men with pointed, self-pitying sentiment. That’s clearly a woman who is offended by these statements these idiots make regularly. Also, typically, “woe is me” posts and comments are removed, but this one stayed up because the rules of this sub don’t apply to women, further proving it is, in fact, a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:05 AM
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Yep. Those men are in the minority and not at all representative of the general male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:10 AM
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Go pick a woman right now, let me know how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:07 AM
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Or maybe many women just aren’t interested in casual sex With unattractive men. Which is most men. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:25 AM
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Why do yall pedestalize women so much, relationships require 2 to tango, everything is not up to the woman It’s not putting women on a pedestal, it’s the objective reality: Women have all the leverage because they always have options. If they’re unhappy with those options, there are no downsides, they’re happier alone than with a man who doesn’t provide what they want or need. If you actually look up the top 5 reasons divorce is initiated, it has nothing to do with "oh im not happy with what hes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:18 AM
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Women dictate that dynamic because they’re the ones with all the leverage. If she’s not happy with him providing resources, but not emotional investment, she leaves. Most divorces are initiated by women. And forgiving? How? Women can't even age, or be overweight without men taking it personal and shaming them horribly. This is entirely your fault for choosing men with plentiful options who can afford to nitpick a woman’s appearance. These men are attractive and in high demand, so that’s the trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:43 AM
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Men on the other hand are let off the hook because they're visual creatures So are women. Men are far more forgiving and far less discriminatory towards women on a physical basis than vice versa. who don't need an emotional connection to enjoy sex Neither do women. Enjoying sex with an attractive man that in any just universe never would have looked at her twice requires no emotional connection. I think she makes a great point - this notion that you should devote yourself to your husband and chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:34 AM
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But shouldn’t women also have their shit together before marriage? No. Women choose men, men don’t choose women. This is why women place such a high barrier of entry for men before consenting to romantic or sexual contact. Unless you’re actually attracted to him, then those barriers go right out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:06 AM
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If you could point to where I said I was “angry” about it, that would be a reasonable response. But you can’t because I didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:00 AM
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a woman's SMV is a representation of how easily she can get a man to commit A woman, regardless of age, weight, or promiscuous behavior, can always get a man to commit. The problem is getting one of the men she’s actually attracted to to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:38 AM
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It makes sense for her to tell you to go fuck yourself and leave to bang Chad. Correct. What’s wrong with that, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:17 AM
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What am I doing wrong here? Nothing. You’re just too ugly to be honest about your intent. If they thought you were actually attractive, they’d go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:29 AM
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and then settle with a “safe option” stable man once they’re older and their looks begin to fade And the added bonus is that she won’t need to conceal any nefarious intent, she can openly declare that she’s just using him for personal gain. The “safe options” are so desperate for female companionship, they would rather knowingly be used and abused than be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:20 AM
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if you are good looking and don't know how to act around a women you will be mad fun of Nope. Chad could openly say he feeds live babies to pythons and women will not only let it slide, but make excuses for why he does it. If you understood just how truly rare it is for women to find a man genuinely attractive on a physical level, you’d know they’re not going to let things like social awkwardness, bad personality, or red flags stop them from pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 01:11 AM
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If you’re greedy and deceptive, there’s no point in masquerading as someone who is honest and generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:57 AM
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That's what I find disgusting because Men don't have this mindset. Why? Because men are making a conscious effort to be better people? No. It’s biology. Men did not decide to be romantically inclusive towards women and women did not decide to be romantically exclusionary towards men. Blaming women for their nature or finding it “disgusting” is entirely misguided. Their perception of you is entirely within your control. If you choose to engage with them, they will view you as a potential threat. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:09 AM
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Is this implying that Women do not find Men Attractive at all? Yes. They’re attracted to a small minority of physically attractive men. The rest are beige-colored genderless blobs that walk back and forth in the background, occasionally making noise. If one such blob proves to be of some use, they will enter into a relationship with it. This is not predicated nor motivated by physical attraction, lust, or desires for sex. These can only be fulfilled by the minority of men they’re actually physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:01 AM
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Do you agree or disagree with these widely debated Red Pill statements about women? Disagree. All of them either directly or indirectly direct the root of the problem to the thoughts, opinions, and feelings of men. Men and their opinions are of zero concern to women. Women are only concerned with the opinions of three people: Themselves, other women, and Chad. This is the great delusion the Red Pill sells to men: The idea that women care about them or what they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:15 AM
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Women are physically shallow, just the same as men. They do not desire physically unattractive men. No one wants to sleep with them. This is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:21 PM
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Yep. Another predictor of infidelity was attractiveness. A person’s own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men — meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair https://news.fsu.edu/news/education-society/2018/02/12/lead-us-not-temptation-predictors-infidelity-divorce-highlighted-new-fsu-research/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:13 AM
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Masculinity is associated with attractiveness as the paper cited by this study demonstrates. Men with attractive faces and bodies enjoyed significantly more short-term mating success than their peers, with no cost in their long-term mating success To determine which attractive traits are responsible for any such correlations, we examined correlations between sexual behaviors and three components of attractiveness: averageness, symmetry, and sexual dimorphism (masculinity in males, femininity in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:30 AM
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“We found above-chance accuracy in judgments of unfaithfulness from same-sex faces in men but not women. Conversely, we found above-chance accuracy for opposite-sex faces in women but not men. Therefore, both men and women showed above-chance accuracy, but only for men’s, and not women’s, faces.” ”facial masculinity is a well-established signal of propensity to adopt short-term mating strategies.” “male masculinity [is] positively related to preference for uncommitted sex and multiple matings.” …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:58 PM
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Men are born at the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:05 PM
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She asked for a “guarantee”. As there is no guarantee of anything in a relationship, the closest we have is likelihood. We’re assuming that OP does not mean “guarantee” in the most literal sense possible. Lowest likelihood of infidelity? People who have the least opportunity for their fidelity to be tested to begin with. If OP meant “guarantee” in the most literal sense possible, then no, there is no guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:03 PM
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Those women do not give a fuck about you so I really don't understand why you're so concerned with them, OP. Question for RedPill She’s taking issue with Red Pill idiots, not women in general over a particular age, so no, your statement doesn’t stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:48 PM
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OP is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:39 PM
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Cheating requires a willing partner. Less physically attractive, less willing partners. She doesn’t want to compromise on physical appearance in exchange for fidelity. That’s understandable. But that’s the answer to her question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:38 PM
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What guarantees that one a woman is married, she won't be cheated on for a woman 10/20 years younger than her? By marrying one of the men who will offer loyalty and commitment, but do not exist as an option for you because they are physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:56 PM
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The idea is “you [the male] want me [the female] more than I want you, therefore you pay” Correct. You have failed the examination for physical attractiveness so now you’re forced to compensate with financial security and commitment. The men she’s actually attracted to just get to have sex with her without an ounce of monetary or emotional investment and are free to exit and re-enter her life whenever they so choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:24 PM
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It’s just your turn in a cycle Yep. Take it or leave it. There’s one million and one idiots behind you waiting in line should you decide you’re unhappy with this arrangement. If you didn’t hit the genetic jackpot and want unconditional love, you need a dog, not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:03 AM
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The majority of men cease all interaction with women? This is the ideal female world. It would only become a problem if one too many men from the attractive minority ceased all interaction as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:14 PM
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He isn’t. That’s why people take issue with all this gaslighting about “personality” bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:06 PM
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That is a body type women are not attracted to to begin with. Women overwhelmingly prefer a V-shaped torso with an even distribution of lean muscle on a slight frame, like that of a male swimmer or distance runner. The bulky “roided out gym rat” is not at all appealing to most women. This is equivalent to saying “See those big, fat neckbeards? Women don’t like them because they have bad personalities”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:07 AM
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Dude? Women adore competent, funny, appealing men Not a word about physical appearance. Dude, indeed. Let me know when men actually want to know what women like. Or continue to let disaffected, lonely men dictate your reality. Women dictate the male reality, not lonely, disaffected men. And women, in reality, are attracted to physically attractive men. Personality, at worst, makes no difference, and at best, is inconsequential. It’s easy to say “We’re not shallow, men just have bad personalities…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:54 AM
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Women have never pretended they don’t care about appearance You just did that. You said women are attracted to certain things, none of which were physical. Either it slipped your mind or you were trying to pull that “it’s all about personality” bullshit. An ordinary man who is sexy Oxymoron. Ordinary men are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:16 AM
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if they are sexually appealing Correct. So, the line of demarcation begins at physical appearance. Women always forget to include that part. It’s strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:09 AM
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Plenty of ugly men who are competent, funny, and appealing. No problem letting them go by way of giving them zero opportunity to begin with. The word you’re looking for is “hot”. Women adore hot men. The other kind, eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:04 AM
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Nope. Most women are not attracted to most men. If they were, they would not place a barrier of entry for romantic or intimate contact. Unless Chad. No barrier of entry for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:02 AM
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And women aren’t attracted to most men at any age in any intimate or romantic sense, so it all evens out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:42 AM
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Birth control is not totally 100% effective. Nothing is aside from abstinence. But you’re willing risk your life due to the complications of injury and even death to have sex. So, if you’re willing to make that risk, why is this debate around child support and abortion so important to women? You risked literal death for sex. Why do you need abortion? You may die from pregnancy? You’re clearly fine with risking your life if you had sex. Why do you need monetary compensation from the man in questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:40 AM
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No, there isn’t. The only 100% safe contraception is abstinence. This prevents entirely the risk of serious or even death from resultant potential pregnancy and this supposed need and right for access to abortion. Sex is not a need. You won’t die without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:28 AM
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Why take any chance at all? Abortion is needed because of the endless complications pregnancy can cause, including death, so just practice abstinence. Sex is not a need. You won’t die without it. But you may die from pregnancy and childbirth (hence the need for abortion).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 12:01 AM
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Yep. The woman can always just remain abstinent until marriage. It’s just sex. They won’t die without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:48 PM
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the criticisms against age-gap relationships like generally cast the younger woman as the victim Yep. The problem is that if these women didn’t want these men, they would reject them without issue like they do every other man who makes an attempt to approach them with romantic intent. This is then further compounded by the fact that they somehow never manage to fall “victim” to a man’s hocus pocus voodoo magic gypsy witch curse predator powers whenever the man in question is broke/bald/ugly/shor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:39 PM
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Relationships do not form unless women decide they will form. Don’t like age-gap relationships? Blame the women who form them with these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:34 PM
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Objective observation. Most men are not attractive on a physical level to most women. Women deny this not because they’re kind, considerate, and trying to avoid hurting any feelings, but because admitting it means that men are disadvantaged in a way in which they are not at fault. Men having a problem that they themselves did not cause is an absolutely alien concept to women. So, they gaslight men and blame it on their style of dress and grooming habits. https://theredarchive.com/r/Chadfish/so-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:12 PM
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No. Men will always desire you. Being that the broad of majority of men are of absolutely zero romantic or intimate interest to women, finding a man for whom that desire is mutual is the problem. Finding interested men has never, will never, and could never be a problem for a woman barring death (and sometimes, not even that).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:32 AM
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Ok what I REALLY meant to ask is “are female late bloomers screwed”? No. Men will always desire them. This not a woman’s problem. A woman’s problem is finding men for whom that desire is mutual. The wall and its consequences do not exist for women. Meanwhile, men are born at the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:58 PM
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Okay, but when he offered the same rationale that women use (the unattractive ones are just as bad as the attractive ones), you became annoyed and had no rebuttal. Then you tried defending that statement you originally made twice. You got caught with your pants down. It happens. It’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:03 PM
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No, it’s hypocritical on your part because you’re the one who started it. Dished out a criticism, he responded to you the same way women respond to men who make the same criticism, and that made you mad. If you responded with “I wasn’t seriously suggesting that you should go for old, fat women, I was just pointing out that this is how it feels when men criticize women for their choice in partners,” then all of this would be believable. But instead you became sarcastic and pissy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:42 PM
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Because you’re the one who started it. He did something you didn’t anticipate: He used the same stock response women use when being criticized for their mate selection: He said unattractive women are every bit as bad as attractive women. The tables turned, you had no explanation or defense for it, and instead of conceding the point gracefully and thinking “Well, men are told that the ugly ones just as bad as the hot ones all the time, so I have to eat shit on this one,” you became bothered by it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:32 PM
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No, that’s not what you said. You castigated him for his mate selection and then he said the same thing women say in response whenever their mate selection is criticized (unattractive men are just as bad attractive men), but with the genders flipped, instead of just saying “fair enough,” you became annoyed with him. I pointed out the hypocrisy of a woman taking issue with the same rhetoric they throw at men all the time. How you’re still not understanding this is absolutely mind-melting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:13 PM
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There is no moral dimension to attraction because it is not something that is under a person’s control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:13 AM
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Why shouldn’t women be allowed to only care about physical appearance? Why are women required to apply additional criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:29 AM
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You cannot read. I said that he was the one who was embarking on a fool’s errand, not women. don’t care if a guy is unemployed as long as he is hot. Nor should they. You’re insisting that I said or implied that they should. I didn’t. You read what you wanted to read, not what was actually written.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:57 AM
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I didn’t do anything. You replied to a different poster originally. I was simply pointing out that it’s hypocritical to become irritated when men employ the same stock response women employ when critique of mate selection is discussed. I simply did what you did with the genders flipped. Except that I didn’t do that. You were reading what you wanted to read, not what I actually said. I even pointed out he was embarking on a fool’s errand: Trying to earn attraction, something that can be won, earn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:34 AM
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Women need to be less superficial about looks and more reasonable about finding a stable partner Nope. Never said that or implied it. I have zero problem with women and their standards for physical attraction. Employment status and financial standing has no bearing on which people are or are not physically attractive. The original poster you replied employed the same tactic used by women when any critique of their mate selection is made by men: The less attractive men are just bad if not worse. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:54 AM
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Double standards. If you’re going to keep them, fine, but do not dare get upset with they get thrown back at you as the poster you originally replied to did. You became irritated when he did to you. If you just said “Fair enough” or said nothing at all instead of sarcastically waving away the criticism, no problem. But you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:12 AM
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You took issue with the idea of men choosing “mean Stacies” instead of “nice chubby women”. You immediately tethered morality to physical appearance. When he shot back that unattractive women are no different from “mean Stacies” the exact same way women do when men critique their choosing of Chads over regular men, you sarcastically waved it away with a “sure, whatever”. Double standards. If you’re going to keep them, fine, but do not dare get upset with they get thrown back at you as the poster…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:53 AM
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Nope. If unattractive women and attractive women are both good, then the same is true of men. You can’t tether physical appearance to morality for one gender and not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:44 AM
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Then the same assumption has to be extended to unattractive women: They’re every bit as vitriolic as attractive women, as the poster you originally replied to already stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:05 AM
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It makes no sense for a man. And why should any woman ever care about what does and does not make sense for a man? Their behavior is entirely without consequence because they do not stand to lose anything. If she remains alone for the rest of her life because no man is willing to “take her seriously”, what happens? She lives a longer, happier, more fulfilling life compared to her cohort of married women who found men to “take them seriously”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:57 AM
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Sure they are. Women constantly proclaim that physically unattractive men are every bit as bad, if not worse, in their behavior as physically attractive men, they’re just kept in line by their lack of options. But then as soon as a woman gives him a chance, he immediately starts beating her without mercy and cheating with other women because of their pent up rage and bitterness. If unattractive men are immediately assumed to be monsters in waiting, then the same courtesy has to be extended to un…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:22 AM
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The entire man vs bear debate is a demonstration of women having an extreme, irrational phobia on a purely emotional basis and then shutting down all logical counters Women are not afraid of men. They are afraid of physically unattractive men. Women think the vast majority of men are physically unattractive. Ergo, women are afraid of most men they encounter. It is therefore perfectly understandable as to why they would choose the bear. She would rather take her chances with the bear than the phy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:39 PM
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it's also true that they wear it to appear more attractive to men More attractive to the small minority of physically attractive men. Not the large majority of men. The average male’s thoughts and opinions are worth absolutely nothing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:03 AM
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When women no longer need to depend on men, they stay as far away from them as humanly possible. This alone should tell you they are not attracted to men if civil, economic, and educational equity is all it takes to completely kill any desire to pursue intimacy with men. Every developed first world country is taking a demographic nosedive because women have achieved parity with men, and as a result, follow their instinctive desire to withdraw from interacting with them unless there is a tangible…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:26 PM
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Do not be boring. Become interesting. Live an interesting life. Yep. But none of that shit matters unless she deems you to be this beforehand: super good looking guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:56 AM
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You feel forced to compensate because of a lack of attraction on their part. This is a fool’s errand. Women decide if they’re attracted to you within 5 seconds of looking at you. If they actually felt genuine attraction, they wouldn’t give a shit if you even had a job to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:18 PM
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