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Same. I got awesome pro photographer photos and I can get 100 matches per week. And 1 date with the girl who was that keen it didn't matter what I said. I cringe even as I'm typing 'whats on this weekend' and only continue because it's better than typing nothing at all.
/r/seduction24/12/19 10:21 AM
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Tinder?
/r/seduction24/12/19 10:20 AM
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Just buy it. Or these guys won't have any incentive to actually make content any more.
/r/seduction21/12/19 06:05 AM
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What's wrong with you exactly? Yes, staying in an airbnb with several hot girls who want to fuck you is a dangerous and terrible idea.
/r/seduction13/12/19 11:36 AM
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I don't think it's a real sub, it's too ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 01:57 PM
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It is decent advice but it's definitely written by a guy.
/r/seduction09/12/19 01:54 PM
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so... if women don't like being approached and find it creepy... wtf do you do lol? You ignore the women who tell you it's creepy. Or really ignore any of their advice, which is the first rule of game. It's creepy if you're creepy. Or it's creepy if you're not attractive to her. You may have to approach to find out if that's the case, but still. Everyone wants to be approached by someone they are attracted to. Think about it. Even if you're busy, tired, whatever, would it be a bad thing if a you…
/r/seduction09/12/19 01:53 PM
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Ok, the idea of the thread is good, but paying for girls ubers is a terrible beta example of it. It worked for you, but it has a desperate vibe. The term you're trying to explain is 'objections'. I can't because.... my friends need me I just got here I don't know you well enough yet I'm not that kind of girl etc etc. All you have to do is smoothly explain them away. So your uber example 'works', but objections usually aren't about money. It's basically a type of shit test.
/r/seduction08/12/19 06:27 AM
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I'd assume the very few are lucky and good looking, otherwise it's reddit trolling and only happens in movies. Or you just did literally everything wrong
/r/seduction07/12/19 07:16 AM
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Guys aren't attracted to attractive guys usually, so they wouldn't really know. I like to say that there are almost no guys who are actually ugly. There may be unsuccessful guys who take poor care of themselves and look like shit, but there's really only about 3 types, shit-ugly deformed, average, and model.
/r/seduction07/12/19 07:13 AM
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Dress like a schmuck I guess with sandals and socks and a baggy shirt. Man I am just fucking embarrassed when I look back at some of my photos from that year. I had no idea what fashion was. It was wierd though. Hot Instagram model tier girl invites me over at 1am when I'm in embarrassing shape. Thought it was a scam or my kidneys were about to get taken by a gang. But no, she is just sick of all the 'muscle guys' and just wants to talk. Maybe cuddle. And fuck. For the whole weekend. If that's b…
/r/askTRP21/11/19 12:29 PM
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Yeah. I was skinny-fat (not obese but basically no muscle) when I fucked some of the hottest girls I've ever met there. Went back last year in much better shape and had trouble getting the same quality.
/r/askTRP21/11/19 09:46 AM
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Its not like that at all. Its probably as safe as wherever you're from.
/r/askTRP21/11/19 09:42 AM
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This is true. The hottest Asian I've ever seen in my country is basically what every poor remote village girl in Thailand looks like and no one will ever even notice she exists there.
/r/askTRP21/11/19 09:40 AM
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It sounds like you skimmed through the post and didn't even read the first half man
/r/askTRP17/11/19 09:41 AM
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Long term: Do it more. Short term: Breathe (4 seconds in, 8 seconds out) for a few minutes. Find a 10 minute relaxation meditation on youtube to do just beforehand if it's that bad. Talk to the first person you see in the room, no matter who they are. You don't have time to be a nervous wallflower if you go straight into social mode.
/r/askTRP17/11/19 04:42 AM
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If you read the Rational Male you'd understand why. It is so hard to become red pilled until the tipping point (divorce etc). Why? Because a feminised society and identity is all they have. Realising that everything you do, and your entire blue pill strategy doesn't work and is actively harming you? That's a lot to swallow and it's much easier to deny it and refuse to see it. It's so hard to think outside a box that television, teachers, mothers, and even fathers have put us in since birth. Not …
/r/askTRP17/11/19 04:40 AM
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That describes most of society these days though, to be fair. You just work within the system and let everyone else pay for it.
/r/askTRP17/11/19 04:30 AM
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It's your openers. If you're getting the matches that's the hard part. Matching doesnt mean you ask about meeting, it's an invitation to banter if you like. Open with some assumption about her ('you look like trouble' or 'cheeky and funsized, my favourite' (if she's short)). Sounds a bit cheesy but all the girls I've fucked lately I've opened with these sorts of things. It works because they want to know why you thought that about them. And if you got it right or wrong, it doesn't matter. You'll…
/r/askTRP17/11/19 04:24 AM
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I have a similar issue, she's not quite up to my LTR standards, but she's still fun, cute and nice so it seems a bit too much to just drop her for what is almost no reason other than feeling a bit sorry for her. But at the end of the day it's her choice whether she wants to keep 'chasing' you when you aren't offering it.. If you did LTR her I don't think she's going to be likely to get in better shape. So I'm sure there's much better out there worth chasing tbh.
/r/askTRP17/11/19 04:18 AM
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Any well-adjusted woman does not act so entitled or aggressively, which means there isn't much point adjusting your own strategy. If anything, the whole sub and every strategy listed is a shit test.
/r/askTRP17/11/19 03:53 AM
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Whose bed is she actually in and who is she actually fucking while she talks up these other guys? Why does it matter what silly stories she makes up if she's on your dick?
/r/askTRP16/11/19 05:07 AM
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I'm not sure what there is to learn from it. These are not normal people, and even high status hot girls wouldn't do any of this if you were good at game. Even in my beta days, no girl ever pulled some of the stunts they encourage. (For a start, who does dinner before they've fucked the girl.. yet getting that for free is half of their dating strategy). I just get the impression that these are purple haired triggerbabies who don't have a lot of choice to start with and are just a bit delusional …
/r/askTRP16/11/19 04:53 AM
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Crazy is a very broad term. Are we talking full on bipolar or a bit quirky? But no, someone will fuck them regardless so they don't really have any reason to prove anything. They still get rewarded.
/r/seduction12/11/19 01:50 PM
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Yeah. If you do it for 1 girl and then revert back to your old self then it's just a quicker road to ruin (heartbreak, kids, marriage, divorce).
/r/seduction09/11/19 08:54 AM
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The paid products have torrents out there, they should be more than enough.
/r/seduction09/11/19 08:50 AM
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Looks like she wanted to pick up extra shifts for comp time to use it on vacation, disregarding the bullshit excuse with her grandma whats wrong with her wanting to go on vacation? I think the bad part is she made up an emotionally manipulative reason to get what she wanted at the expense of others. In a fair world it would be 'first in best dressed' I assume.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/19 07:39 AM
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Read less, do more. Re-read the important stuff every few months.
/r/askTRP09/11/19 07:36 AM
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Agreed on the 'dating up' thing. A guy is usually willing to sleep with anyone halfway attractive, but he can probably get every other girl in the same category as you. So if you know he's a few points higher, why would he ever let himself get locked down to you.
/r/seduction09/11/19 05:08 AM
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This isn't a shit test, it's her telling you that she's about to get """accidentally""" pregnant. Flush every condom or put it straight into the outside trash bin. (And dump her)
/r/askTRP09/11/19 05:01 AM
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They get away with a lot of manipulation from a very young age. It probably barely registers in their mind that it's wrong any more.
/r/TheRedPill09/11/19 04:49 AM
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I think it would only really work if you had the pictures that showed you as 100% alpha. Otherwise they might just be wtf. But if it's good then others will see it and message you anyway right? Anyway one day years ago I was at the bar. Someone had dropped a Fred Durst style douchebag cap. And I just had an idea and told my friends 'watch what happens when I wear the cap'. So I put on the cap and spent the rest of the night being my best version of a douchebag frat boy type. Girls were absolutel…
/r/seduction08/11/19 10:08 PM
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Swipes out of desperation/pity, still no match
/r/seduction08/11/19 11:04 AM
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Probably because he is the most notorious and some would say creepiest. He's banned from Australia, UK and Singapore for example.
/r/seduction03/11/19 11:42 PM
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The rebranding seems to be gradual removal of all PUA content and going self help. Just to appease media and feminism I guess. Not actually changing their name that I know of. I notice rsdmax seems to have changed his brand to just his name without RSD. Julian has got married (lol).
/r/seduction03/11/19 11:22 PM
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A strange rebranding. I'll be curious if it works. But it's hard for RSD culty guys to be convinced that general self help is the thing they need because they think getting laid is the solution.
/r/seduction03/11/19 10:42 PM
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Geez man. You're still at it. Can't you see this loop of repeatedly posting the same stuff is not doing anything positive, even if it was true? I can't even become muscular, I have a super-thin build; So what happened exactly when you ate 3500 calories per day and progressively squatted, deadlifted, bench pressed, shoulder pressed and rowed higher weights for 6 months then? Oh, you haven't even started. Its the same as your socialising efforts. You can't dismiss it when you have never even tried…
/r/seduction02/11/19 12:00 PM
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Being forward as in 'lets fuck'? No. Even Chad can barely pull that off. Being fun and introducing a sexual frame? Yes. Check this out: https://imgur.com/a/FZRMKwt/
/r/seduction28/10/19 07:58 AM
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I've also seen plenty of this "I had sex a couple times and regret all of it, it was terrible, and now I don't care, don't want it anymore" -- while I wonder, what exactly is that all about. I guess when the desire to get laid has built up enough (especially if you've never done it at all), it clouds your judgement and you may fuck anyone above a minimum standard just for the sake of getting laid. Because it's just what your brain wants you to do. Then you start to realise, as your better judgem…
/r/seduction28/10/19 07:48 AM
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If you are feeling desperate then you give off that vibe, which is unattractive. It's needy. You have to be non-needy, and willing to 'walk away' in a sense. So girls can't be your mental focus.
/r/seduction27/10/19 10:15 AM
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Just guessing what your post said as I respond. Sex can be amazing, or it can be pretty mediocre. Half the battle can be making sure the girl is enjoying herself, because it's certainly nothing like in porn where you slap your dick on them a few times then they scream in orgasm as soon as you put it in. And not all girls are very vocal so its hard to tell if they like what you're doing or not. And many porn positions can be fun to try when you're both comfortable, but depending on the girl's hei…
/r/seduction27/10/19 10:14 AM
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Well, as long you have the 'need' and 'asap' mindset it won't happen. Get in the gym to improve your looks and confidence, it goes beyond just the muscle. And this video is one I always recommend on flirting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw66ddhAUhg
/r/seduction27/10/19 09:59 AM
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Yes, but you don't necessarily have to tell your deepest darkest secrets or troubled upbringing. Just 'be your true self even if others might not like it' is enough.
/r/seduction26/10/19 06:08 AM
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Just assume its going to be awkward, it might be. But you have plenty of leads to practice with. And having lots of options means you eventually won't give a fuck and you'll be more like your natural, confident self. Go along aiming to get to know them, have a good time, see what happens. Do you want to fuck hot girls or not?
/r/seduction25/10/19 10:26 AM
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Just so you know, any time limited discount is a lie. Would you buy it if that was the normal price? Or are you being tricked into thinking you're missing out? I have it. Haven't got all the way through. But he knows his stuff.
/r/seduction25/10/19 05:20 AM
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I think it's just a joke/troll post.
/r/seduction24/10/19 12:21 PM
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I'm not sure, but it's enough of a sign that they aren't there just to milk you. I'd say positive because they're choosing to stay out, and not make an excuse and go home. They're actively prolonging the date. One example is the last drinks date I went on, the girl was actively paying after I got the first round, and while I didn't take her home, we were getting very cozy in the booths and had kissed by half way through the date. In Australia it may be more normal to split though going by a lot …
/r/seduction24/10/19 12:21 PM
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If you whine about your emotions/pain, you're a weak beta or a 'girl friend' to her. It's a different thing to exposing your true self (for rejection). If you talk about how you battled something and came out the other end (drug addiction or something), and some of the things you faced or felt along the way, that's vulnerability I suppose. Not sure on a perfect vulnerability example without reading the book again sorry. So the OP's example of saying 'I'm nervous' isn't really vulnerability. It's…
/r/seduction24/10/19 09:02 AM
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Lol. Who would do that kind of dinner date anyway? I don't care how hot the girl is, it's drinks or coffee or similar (or some activity that you both want to do because it's fun). If they don't 'want' to do any of that with you, then they don't want you for you, they want your wallet. And if the girl isn't buying the 2nd round or willing to leave after that then goodbye. It's just a normal thing for the girl to pay without being asked, even if she's hot, because hot girls can be and usually are …
/r/seduction24/10/19 08:54 AM
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Don't confuse showing weakness with vulnerability.
/r/seduction24/10/19 12:12 AM
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Not high status as such but that you're non-needy.
/r/seduction22/10/19 09:58 AM
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Yeah just leave it man. I've done this heaps of times with girls from years ago who I got along well with at the time. I thought 'I've improved myself, got a new job, got in shape, I'll get the girl this time!' And then Seen. Maybe she didn't remember you, maybe she has a boyfriend, or maybe it looks weird for you to randomly message her out of the blue (because if you had options you wouldn't). You'll never know the real reason, so move on.
/r/seduction22/10/19 09:57 AM
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Try different meats, or vegan yeah (but that seems like a lot of extra effort). I eat mostly kangaroo meat because here it's about the same price as beef mince, but with close to 0% fat and still with the iron and other 'red meat' stuff in it. Maybe there's some other equivalent for you that works, depending on your budget.
/r/seduction20/10/19 09:42 AM
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I'm a guy (33yo, white, 6'2). Why do you think it's a trade-off of your skin? Do you get bad acne or something when you do work out? It's probably mostly diet if so. One of my friends had to stop eating chicken because that gave him bad skin, but no other meats did. Must be all the hormones in it or something. Or is it the sweating? Surely just (more) regular showers and maybe some specialty soap would fix that. I would say getting jacked is an insane improvement to your confidence, energy, and …
/r/seduction20/10/19 09:24 AM
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Some of them will talk back because they are bored or like the look of you. It doesn't have to start with a gamey pickup line.
/r/seduction20/10/19 09:02 AM
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Not sure what the point of this thread is but if you're getting that reaction often then you're completely uncalibrated/creepy for whatever reason and need to fix that.
/r/seduction20/10/19 08:58 AM
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I'm in Australia and I know several SHORT asian guys who absolutely slay it. All that matters is game and making yourself look good. Any girl who says she has a 'type' doesn't know what she's talking about. Get in the gym, since you have so much time ahead of you, you may as well get shredded.
/r/seduction20/10/19 08:57 AM
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Followers = orbiters. A low risk way of feeding off attention and raising their own status. Never add them on IG until you've had sex first
/r/seduction20/10/19 08:55 AM
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He has to be trolling if he really doesn't get it
/r/seduction05/10/19 08:51 AM
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Already slept together? Dude, what's wrong with you? Do you think any woman would do that if they weren't super into you? No, they'd avoid you.
/r/seduction05/10/19 08:50 AM
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It doesn't hurt to drop hints about what you're doing there, and they might mould themselves around it unless they're in super crazy relationship mode. Asking them is a bit more awkward I find. I try to drop early 'yeah I'm a bit lazy with tinder, don't usually have the time since I'm pretty busy' implying that a relationship isn't something I have time for either. To some extent, it's just Tinder, so both parties shouldn't be under any illusions that it's a hookup and short term dating app. You…
/r/seduction29/09/19 09:39 PM
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Been there before. I got chatted up at my cashier job by a model tier girl while I lived in my mums basement. I mean she was a little bit crazy but there I was in her bed a few nights later without losing any kidneys. Just go along with it, and the main piece of advice I have is don't get too attached. It's hard not to when a 'perfect' girl just appears like that, but you're better off setting yourself up for disappointment and maybe being pleasantly surprised. The things people like about you m…
/r/seduction29/09/19 09:34 PM
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You probably should have been tuning as many other girls in the club, like the bartender, or any other girls that came near you, to DHV. Who knows, the old guy probably just had a bag of coke, they'll act that way for coke dealers. Still, just an unlucky night by the sounds of it. Just bad luck, unless she's the one who suggested that club because she planned the whole thing in that case.
/r/seduction29/09/19 10:43 AM
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If you are one of the ones with fashion and not the type to 'send bobs' or stink badly, then you are in with a chance. Just figure out how to get talking to more of them and you'll start to realise they aren't any different, and if anything being a bit of exotic gives you a bit of an advantage.
/r/seduction27/09/19 12:15 PM
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Maybe you didn't game the whole group enough. If they trust and like you enough, they'll be the ones shoving you guys into the bedroom and giggling as they shut the door. And no, she doesn't have a boyfriend. The beta cuck friends just said that because to their fragile minds, that would be enough to make THEM give up trying in the same situation. You might have just got unlucky, but maybe I'd have tried to game the group more and not tried to escalate much until later on. The beta friends will …
/r/seduction14/09/19 10:32 AM
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A girl doesn't 'promise' to kiss you. You kiss her when you think you should, and she either kisses back or rejects you.
/r/seduction14/09/19 10:28 AM
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They can act like that but at the same time have a boyfriend/husband or not want to take any risks with their professional career.
/r/seduction14/09/19 10:25 AM
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Hell, if those charity fuckwits are allowed to jump in front of me in the streets, I'm allowed to say hi to a girl.
/r/seduction14/09/19 08:44 AM
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He's talking about the guy in the screenshot.
/r/seduction14/09/19 08:44 AM
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8 approaches is basically enough to be warmed up on 1 day, mate. Your rate of 1 per month you'd expect to see zero results... Do the same thing enough times in a short timeframe to A) be warmed up, and B) start to be able to think about what's going wrong with your interations.
/r/seduction14/09/19 08:42 AM
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Start earlier and make it an ongoing habit, not something where you 'switch on' daygame mode. Like the moment you leave your house, you're in social mode always. The wierd old guy on the corner, the grandma at the bus stop. Warm up with them before you even see a hot girl.
/r/seduction12/09/19 06:30 PM
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Actually, reminds me of the time about 10 years ago when I worked at a supermarket as a cashier and this model-tier gorgeous girl who came through my checkout tracked me down on facebook and asked if she could chat with me. A few days later I was in her bed (she lived 5 mins walk from my house). I still don't understand it because she was so hot and I was a complete loser back then living at my mums house and working at a supermarket but it happened. And then she cut me off and it destroyed me f…
/r/seduction12/09/19 06:20 PM
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Is she a different nationality or cultural background that might have some fetish for your 'type'? I get Thai girls going wild like that because they're obsessed with my sickly pale nerdy skin for example. I agree it's a bit weird, but as a rule I like to say 'if in doubt, YOLO it up' and I've never actually died as a result. Sometimes the situation seems so surreal that even as you're putting it in the girl you're just asking yourself 'is this a prank of some sort' and somehow it isn't. So.. ju…
/r/seduction12/09/19 05:11 PM
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Seems like it worked.
/r/seduction12/09/19 05:05 PM
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getting a degree and well paying job This is basically slavery to the system, man. If that's your idea of success then you just end up with a gold digger who whored it up all her life then looked for suckers when she turned 30 and her looks ran out.
/r/seduction12/09/19 04:54 PM
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Did Elon bring out a Coke alternative?
/r/seduction09/09/19 04:37 AM
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Ah, sweet child. Congrats on the genetic lottery. For the rest of us, we can't 'pick' or 'choose' on tinder. It's more like, use up all your swipes and then ask yourself if you're really desperate enough to reply to that 150kg thing which is your only match for the day. A slight exaggeration, but you get my drift. Really not much above a '6' in quality and I'm not exactly ugly.
/r/seduction09/09/19 04:35 AM
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Yeah, I would say 60% looks actually means 60% 'masculinity'. You can 'become' a lot more good looking from lifting. But you're still the same person. And this isn't quite game. I've been destroying myself in the gym 5 days per week and there is a lot more interest from girls. Doing anything about it is still pretty tough, but this alone is a high percentage change for me. I completely stopped absorbing myself in reading about game and still made progress.
/r/seduction07/09/19 09:43 AM
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Try to confirm it for tomorrow. If it doesn't happen, block, ban, move on.
/r/seduction07/09/19 08:46 AM
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Learn how to flirt. This means stuff like teasing, playing around, push-pull. You're answering questions like a robot so they are just drying up and losing interest because you're not giving them a man to woman interaction. I think the answer is you're physically attractive with no game, a bit like me.. Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw66ddhAUhg
/r/seduction07/09/19 08:45 AM
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If you're pretty attractive and can pick up often already, then yes. You aren't going to go from nothing to weakly approaching a girl and that happening though. I've known a few PUAs who could pull it off in club toilets.
/r/seduction07/09/19 08:44 AM
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It's one girl. Try 19 more and see if there's a pattern.
/r/seduction04/09/19 10:51 AM
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The only test I've ever passed and ever could is the "thoroughly abnormal person test" and it's reasons like this, that lead me to wonder at times if your support is a bit of low-level trolling for kicks. No, I'm not trolling at all. I just keep thinking 'it can't be as bad as you think it is' while reading your relentless hatred of yourself. And I tend to be an advice-giver in real life too, so if I had any real life friend who was a late in life virgin I'd be giving them what advice I could as…
/r/seduction03/09/19 08:46 AM
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It's more like, now that I'm getting a few dates here and there, I'm experiencing the market from reality rather than purely theory. The women seem quizzical about what I do with my time and who it's with. Like I've passed the 'reasonably normal person' test but they have to test me a bit more because they sense something. And I've even had a (snide) comment or two like 'sounds like that's your ONLY friend' when I've told more than 1 funny story involving the same old school chum. Maybe that's a…
/r/seduction02/09/19 09:16 AM
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Think of it this way, if you want to get to the top of a cliff, do you ask the guy up the top, or the 5 guys stuck down the bottom with you?
/r/seduction31/08/19 11:29 AM
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Why associate with people who clearly can't teach you anything? You know the saying, you're the average of your 5 closest friends.
/r/seduction31/08/19 10:05 AM
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You're overthinking it. Maybe you get a chance to bang the cousin if the first girl put in a good word for you. Which she might have done if she's still willing to hang out with you.
/r/seduction25/08/19 12:41 PM
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Absolute trash tier hysteria as always. It's basic biology. The average guy, purely speaking in statistics (80/20), cannot compete on Tinder. A guy intent on self improvement doesn't really want to lurk in bars getting drunk. It's even more creepy to join things like salsa dancing just to try to pick up and the girls can tell. So daygame is all they have left, other than sitting at home becoming an angry, isolated, marginalised hermit.
/r/seduction25/08/19 12:24 PM
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If girls give you green lights and you still fuck it up, then it can upset them because they wonder what they did wrong. Yeah, they're people too and don't like rejection either. From the second girl though, it almost sounds like she was apologising to her boyfriend as to why she had a random guy there. Try not drinking, mate. Clearly it leaves you incapable of acting normally.
/r/seduction25/08/19 10:30 AM
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There is no such thing as motivation. Let me elaborate in a gym context. You want an end goal (or at least a minimum achievement with extra above it being a bonus). Mine was 'to look good / get a six pack'. Everyone has some sort of goal, for many it's also going to be to sleep with some level of quality girls. There is no shortcut. Ever. People get rich from selling you the idea that there is, but there isn't. Any famous bodybuilder or pickup artist, barring the most attractive chads, put years…
/r/seduction25/08/19 02:07 AM
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You're looking for validation which isn't attractive. Have fun there and girls will make themselves known to you. If you can't have fun then yeah I would say don't go.
/r/seduction24/08/19 11:34 AM
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Any opportunity to take shrooms is worth it. They're pretty hard to come by, here they are anyway. Forget anything sexual, and just have a good time with her. Maybe something will happen. Seems like she's assertive enough to make it happen. Take a moderate dose, a small dose is just annoying and you just keep waiting for something to happen.
/r/seduction24/08/19 11:33 AM
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There's so many approaches and they probably expect you to just pick one of their wiki programs. It can be a bit painful to type walls of advice when the standard few programs apply to most people (and same for basic questions here like 'how do I get this one girl). Well, maybe a gym is a good idea. I can promise that unless you're doing something so absurd that you'd end up in a 'gym fails' YouTube video, no one else really cares what you're doing. If I see someone who is a bit odd or wasting t…
/r/seduction21/08/19 06:13 AM
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10 pushups is actually quite a lot for a beginner, so I'd expect it to be bad form which is causing pain in your case. Try them on your knees instead of feet ('girl pushups') so you can do more per set while keeping your back straight. If you do full pushups and do that many, you must be using too much momentum and doing them too quickly rather than strictly using just your arms and chest to do the work. For the lifting of 20-pound dumbbells, do you mean deadlifts? (Being this, to standing posit…
/r/seduction20/08/19 11:38 AM
1

Are you absolutely sure about your health limiting you here? There are many exercises that work around injuries. You can grow muscle without having to put huge loads on your back, too. Sure some people will be doing 100kg squats, but I don't really do that kind of stuff. Arms for example are done in isolation, and actually working your back is more about pulling movements with your arms than snapping your spine in half. Example: Lat pulldowns: https://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/back-exerc…
/r/seduction18/08/19 03:51 AM
2

Some girls are very busy. The one I've kinda got as a fuck buddy now needs at least a few days notice.
/r/seduction18/08/19 03:33 AM
2

Just gonna be blunt here - stop being so pathetic. The past doesn't matter. And even if you've had sex, it doesn't automatically fix you. If anything, you'll just get super attached to a 4/10 fat girl because she's the first one who gave you the time of day, and that will go on for a few months until it implodes and you'll be a just-as-broken husk for the next 3 months after that. For now, it's time to get in the gym until you look like someone who goes to the gym. You will suffer, it will break…
/r/seduction17/08/19 02:03 AM
1

They guys talk about it around you because you're 'one of the guys' so they feel comfortable doing it.
/r/seduction15/08/19 09:45 AM
1

Same
/r/seduction10/08/19 01:38 PM
2

Anyone who calls themselves alpha isn't, FWIW
/r/seduction28/07/19 11:01 AM
4

Banned, meaning its gone
/r/seduction28/07/19 10:56 AM
2

..work on getting friends?
/r/seduction28/07/19 07:51 AM
11

How fucking baked are you, son?
/r/seduction27/07/19 08:16 AM
2

Pretty sure that sub is run by feminists and offers no real advice. Or is that /r/relationships.
/r/seduction27/07/19 02:47 AM
9

Why is this upvoted? Next 'wanking off to porn is basically like cold approach'. Delete this please.
/r/seduction13/07/19 02:52 AM
22

I think you've got to be super friendly to these sort of guys, patronisingly friendly, in order to make them self destruct. Like any stupid lame story or thing he says, congratulate him on how awesome that sounds. "Wow man, you went to the shop and bought something, that sounds amazing. What happened next? Oh ok, you cooked a pizza.. awesome! Now anyway <exciting story of your own>" One thing I've read is you can ask him in front of her 'you really like her, don't you?'. Then he can't win. If he…
/r/seduction06/07/19 06:51 AM
1

But again I don't know what practical use there is, for this information, That the ones who would have glanced at you like this, would have been some level of receptive if you approached them in another scenario. That you at least would have a chance to open with some who might 'give you a chance' to try talking to them compared to being terrified or instantly telling you they 'have a boyfriend'. And also you said you "gave up approaching" entirely, not long ago. So what can you do with this inf…
/r/seduction04/07/19 12:50 PM
1

There's no such thing.
/r/seduction30/06/19 04:04 AM
30

Watch a few videos on flirting. This is a good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw66ddhAUhg
/r/seduction28/06/19 11:47 AM
1

The thing is though, there's always been a small subset of women who do find me attractive, I still get IOIs once in a long while, I have had a few women online (not friends) tell me I'm "legitimately gorgeous" so it seems it's up in the air. Take that thought and run with it. You know why? Women are covert and rarely will you actually notice these signs. So the ones you do notice are just the tip of the iceberg. I used to think no women ever noticed that I existed and perhaps I was an invisible…
/r/seduction28/06/19 11:35 AM
1

Super thin + ongoing calorie surplus + gym = not super thin.
/r/seduction28/06/19 11:23 AM
1

Well yeah that's what any free content is. I've heard those phone calls are super hard sells though. Like they pretty much push you into telling them what's the most you could pay rather than having a fixed price. And when someone is making a point of not being humble like lounging around on lambos, that doesn't make me want to buy the product. Basically tells me there's way too much profit in it and I can easily justify looking at competitors or pirating.
/r/seduction23/06/19 09:30 PM
7

In general they're moving towards 'life game' or self improvement. Trying to drop the 'manipulative' side of pickup as if it never happened. So someone higher up will be telling each of them 'you need to delete that video because of what you said in it' because it doesn't fit the overall narrative or because eventually a feminist extremist is going to pick the 1 dodgy sentence they said 6 years ago. Max has moved beyond pickup into selling snake oil which is a bit sad. It's just a brand whether …
/r/seduction23/06/19 12:22 PM
1

I'm about 6 foot 1 and no, it doesn't help. Well, maybe it gives me an extra point on the scale, but unless that point is from 7 up to 8 does it mean anything?
/r/seduction14/06/19 08:25 AM
3

Yoga is exactly the same here. It's like the floor is lava and they can't possibly spend more than 60 seconds after class. They probably suspect any guy that goes there is gay or there just to pick up though, being realistic.. in both our cases.
/r/seduction14/06/19 08:24 AM
1

Just feel likes, yikes get me outta here lol. Specially if they are attractive. Push through it. An awkward hello is better than avoiding it completely.
/r/seduction13/06/19 09:24 AM
1

Is this supposed to be only 23 pages? Every 'free' version online seems to be, but I'm not sure if it's just a preview.
/r/seduction10/06/19 06:42 AM
2

Dude that's a pretty hardcore drug to consider taking. No. Outside of America no one would ever consider that.
/r/seduction09/06/19 10:14 AM
2

And I'm a tall white blonde guy who would love to get laid this year. Hell, if a single ugly girl even looked at me without "that" glance which is a mix of pity, disgust and immediate dismissal, it'd be a good year. The grass is always greener, isn't it? I'd rather be brown skinned or homeless because then I'd at least be exotic or risky and have something to offer.
/r/seduction08/06/19 06:12 AM
2

You just have to accept that there are 2 pathways in these situations. You do nothing as you've done, and you 100% definitely regret it. Pretty bad option to willingly choose really. You say something like 'hey its been nice talking to you, lets keep in touch. Whats your number (or fb or instagram or whatever the crazy kids these days talk on). Number 2 then branches out into many possibilities. Maybe she says 'uhh sorry but I'm really busy and my boyfriend and blah blah blah' to brush you off. …
/r/seduction08/06/19 06:08 AM
16

2 days really then
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:03 AM
2

The guys who don't care about this shit are the ones getting laid. So which is better - trading politeness in the hopes that one day when you hit 30, some ugly woman who wants babies will be attracted to your money and boringness, or... going for what you want?
/r/seduction02/06/19 07:03 AM
3

It's a shit test / plausible deniability. God speed!
/r/seduction26/05/19 05:51 AM
2

Hey mate, Try following this sort of program. You'll be absolutely destroying in week 1 but it gets more bearable. Ignore the supplements part though, as 95% is the diet and the workout realistically. https://www.kagedmuscle.com/blogs/muscle-building-trainer/mbt-overviews-program
/r/seduction25/05/19 09:20 AM
1

Negging is like DHV done wrong. It's not 'taught' by anyone is it?
/r/seduction24/05/19 12:40 PM
2

I'd they're deleting them they're never going to let anyone have them.. and especially not cos some internet random decided to pirate on their behalf (what?)
/r/seduction19/05/19 03:00 AM
2

same
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:04 PM
7

I'm not sure what use these images are meant to be..
/r/seduction18/05/19 02:47 PM
2

It's anywhere that isn't English speaking, really. Try Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan and you'll almost think it's a prank, things are so easy.
/r/seduction06/04/19 11:49 AM
2

Yes. OKCupid ran their own study. They had to remove it from the internet because it basically proved there was no point in the average guy using their service, no matter how much money they paid. Basically, the study showed that most women rated most guys as 'below average'. Yet that's not how averages work, is it. In decently attractive women's heads, guys are either 9/10+ (the coveted 'real men' maybe?), or they're invisible/disgusting. There isn't really a middle ground. They don't think lik…
/r/seduction06/04/19 11:47 AM
2

I haven't been on here that much really. Work and stress. And I don't want to read the rubbish replies from my local sub because it's an echo chamber. Well, the reality is the system is gamed against average or below guys, I have to admit that. You still have to put in the effort to stay above the rest of the pile. Whatever you say here you still don't seem to be doing anything yet it's more important than any reading or theorising or complaining about reality. Can you see that anything that cou…
/r/seduction03/04/19 11:10 AM
5

RSDmax is open about the fact his dick is small (plus he's short). And he's a famous PUA/coach. It's all in your head if you let it be. Just like guys who are 'ugly'/indian/black/white/fat who let that be their excuse.
/r/seduction02/04/19 05:36 AM
13

Imagine if you spent all this reddit time outside... The growth mindset includes continual improvement. Actually doing something. Gym, education, approaching, probably all of this. No one went straight from being a level 1 peon in WoW to raiding ragnaros, or whatever. They did the grind for months or years to get that good.
/r/seduction02/04/19 05:16 AM
1

I'm exaggerating slightly for my explanation but I'm not far off. I know a few guys in the pickup community and one of them fucks about 100 girls per year. He goes purely for quantity and is called a '5 slayer' as a result. I'm not sure what I'd rate him at (and I do hate rating with numbers but sometimes it's needed), but this guy is now what that girl 'knows' she can get. It must be fucking tough out there for guys who are genuinely ugly or wierd because I'm always told I'm good looking and I …
/r/seduction30/03/19 10:55 PM
13

Tinder. A 4/10 obese girl with no hobbies or personality can now get a 8/10 guy, whether or not it meant anything to the guy or he just wanted to fuck anything that moves as long as no one finds out (hint: it's the latter). The genders reversed - simply doesn't happen. So when that 4/10 girl gets that guy, that's her 'level'. She's now an 8/10 in her mind. So why will she settle for an average guy ever again (a 6 or a 7)? She's aiming for 9's now, and might even get lucky. Read 'The Rational Mal…
/r/seduction30/03/19 01:08 PM
11

This is exactly the real reality. They (we) already tried 'be yourself lol' for our entire lives. The girls aren't into that.
/r/seduction30/03/19 12:55 PM
2

It works as an absolute beginner because its better than no approach at all. But it basically starts you off worshipping her which 99% of the time hurts you.
/r/seduction25/03/19 10:06 AM
2

He looked 14 though.
/r/seduction23/03/19 08:58 AM
1

Introduce yourself. Seems like a bright neon green light.
/r/seduction21/03/19 10:56 AM
1

To be honest most of the advice is common because it works.
/r/seduction17/03/19 12:45 PM
2

You have a very cold and icy look on your face which would probably scare away a lot of guys despite your good looks. Also, you mention guys turning you down when you suggest sex. I think your social skills are the issue here. If you just say 'lets have sex' to some wierd pasty nerd, that's REALLY abnormal and he's never experienced that in his life because women aren't upfront like that. So he probably thinks it's a joke or that he's on a YouTube prank video.
/r/seduction17/03/19 12:44 PM
2

There is no real limit, other than sticking to appropriate venues. Generally people who try to 'shame' you about your lifestyle have their own agenda - they're desperate babymaker women who want to convince guys that they have some obligation to settle down and provide for them, or guys who know they couldn't pick up if they spent a month in a club. If you're picking up sometimes and feel you're improving even slightly, then that's all the feedback you need, right?
/r/seduction17/03/19 12:36 PM
3

I read it thinking you were 40 or something. Dude. 21 is a kid. You are practically still in high school. Stop whinging. It's legitimately 5 times harder when you get near your 30's. So try to think how fucking easy you really have it now.
/r/seduction17/03/19 12:34 PM
2

You could just catch her after class. "Hey it's always hectic in class but I wanted to meet you properly, I'm John". Etc.
/r/seduction15/03/19 12:14 AM
2

You must have heaps of spare money to waste. Just do one of the programs like The System.
/r/seduction15/03/19 12:13 AM
2

Direct overt statements like this are not how women operate. Try 'im just looking to meet new people and see what happens'.
/r/seduction15/03/19 12:12 AM
6

I've changed my profile to variations of this and matches go down to zero. It only works for guys who are 9/10 in looks.
/r/seduction15/03/19 12:10 AM
1

It's beyond beginner level to handle groups like this. Like you should actively avoid it because it's near impossible. Make sure it's 1 on 1 next time, especially if the girl tries to include others. It's often a shit test when they say 'my friend will be coming'. If you agree to that you're just fucked from the start. You have to have the balls to say 'just us this time thanks, but that sounds good for another time'. If you want an actual answer, then basically you have to game the whole group …
/r/seduction14/03/19 02:51 PM
3

Despite what you did, not because you did it.
/r/seduction14/03/19 02:49 PM
2

Any idea if there are any minimal techno clubs? Regardless of whether they're good pickup places or not.
/r/seduction14/03/19 02:12 PM
1

They're not telling you upfront by the sounds of it, so that means you're an option for them. They'd work in a mention of their partner pretty quickly if they wanted to subtly tell you to back off. I'm not going to say it's a good idea, but every woman will cheat in the right circumstances... so is it even unethical if she'll probably do it with some other guy the next night regardless of your actions?
/r/seduction14/03/19 02:10 PM
12

Lol, knowing all that I'd steer very clear then personally.
/r/seduction14/03/19 02:06 PM
2

You're getting to the upper end of age before you're an 'old guy' (no offence just giving my opinion), that might be holding you back slightly. I'm 32, blonde, 6 foot 1 and I would rate many of the girls I've hooked up with as solid 8's in their early 20's. One of them with several thousand instagram followers who gets 200 likes when she posts a picture of herself having lunch, so it's not just me rating her pretty highly. There are definitely some very plain and boring girls on there, I'll agre…
/r/seduction14/03/19 02:05 PM
3

I've seen this article before, while it's good and accurate, please don't spam cos this is just a spam account and you don't want the site to be blacklisted do you? But yeah. It really is super easy mode, I couldn't believe it when I first went there. You don't need to know much other than you go to BKK and you're now magically 2-3 points higher out of 10 than you normally are. Get on tinder and you get more matches than non-matches when swiping. I pay for boost, wake up, and get 50+ matches. Fi…
/r/seduction14/03/19 01:59 PM
2

Depends which. I've been in one where the aircon was ancient and really struggling, so sweaty even without any dancing while standing right under the aircon. Bigger clubs would have better systems surely.
/r/seduction14/03/19 01:42 PM
3

Not sure if trolling, but if you're serious, then she's a ladyboy. Bottom means you're the one that takes it..
/r/seduction14/03/19 01:42 PM
1

Up to you man, some guys go for volume and are happy being '5 hunters'. Within your social circle might be the key point - gonna trash your reputation maybe if she decides you 'used' her?
/r/seduction14/03/19 01:40 PM
3

You're overthinking it. Meet girls you haven't met yet. Forget about one who you know realistically isn't interested. And yes, she does check facebook, she denied your request, that's just the reality. Also when a girl says she doesn't want to date, she's rejecting you. Girls will pretty much always date / have sex. With the right person.
/r/seduction11/03/19 03:13 AM
1

Never spent more than a meal or a beer in Thailand. They'll have in their profile if they're a freelancer, it's not like they want to waste a whole evening tricking you when they can get 3 paying customers from the bar they work in.
/r/seduction10/03/19 09:39 AM
1

lol
/r/seduction10/03/19 05:14 AM
1

That's literally the way it is though. If you are as you say korean in appearance of course you won't experience it firsthand.
/r/seduction10/03/19 05:11 AM
1

Definitely worth it, even without the girls.
/r/seduction10/03/19 05:04 AM
2

Hilarious, but the ones who are guys are pretty open about it before meeting because they don't want to get themselves into violent situations with anyone who feels 'tricked'.
/r/seduction10/03/19 05:04 AM
1

I've never spent more than a ~$4 meal or 1-2 beers on a girl... and some of them are even rich daddy's girls who would laugh at my pathetic middle class money if I tried to buy them. Thailand has a solid middle class emerging.
/r/seduction10/03/19 05:02 AM
192

Thailand is easy mode if you're white, yeah. And most of them are ready to meet / come home with you on day 1.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:10 PM
1

I would like to see what you look like and then understand what you were wearing. I don't want to post a photo, but I'm about 6 foot 1, blonde, and have been told I look a bit like prince harry (apart from the hair colour). I would have just been wearing tshirt and shorts as it was summer here in Australia. Basically, I can assure you I'm a slightly muscular, non-fedora wearing guy without a neckbeard or anything else that should repulse women. I've been rated a solid 7 by a guy in the local com…
/r/seduction09/03/19 01:07 AM
1

I suppose women say they don't want it because they don't want to be approached by every guy. They want to be approached by a guy who is 'hot' (to them). So how do you know if that's you? Well, you have to do it anyway. Think about it. Do you want to be approached by a hot girl yourself? Of course. Do you want to be approached by a drooling 55 year old crack addict? Probably not. The same girls calling it creepy are usually also complaining about 'where have all the good guys gone'. So whatever …
/r/seduction09/03/19 01:01 AM
8

They want something to blame other than their lack of game, basically. Hence why every indian / small dick / autistic / dark skinned guy blames that factor of their body as if their entire race or demographic also isn't getting laid, yet, they are.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:57 AM
2

Number 3 - I did a few approaches weeks ago finally after years of being unable to, and each one was about 3x worse than I imagined the worst case could be. Like the girls stepping back in fear before I'd opened my mouth (wtf). It pretty much confirmed in my mind that I'm more creepy than I thought, and I barely left the house for the last few weekends. Cos why bother? I'm probably going to get arrested if I even so much as say hello. And before you say start off small - yeah, this was only to d…
/r/seduction07/03/19 10:32 AM
2

I only attract 31+ year old women desperate for 'settling down'. Yet everyone tells me I'm good looking. I don't think I give off a sexual vibe..
/r/seduction02/03/19 02:01 AM
3

Bit of a cringey message.. maybe she just saw it and didn't know what to say. I'd wait until a few hours beforehand and ping her. 'Catch you soon - I'll be waiting outside x' (or something else relevant). Whatever you do don't ASK, just assume it's still on.
/r/seduction01/03/19 12:57 PM
3

I usually concentrate on BKK for any attempts at game just because it's the population hub and where even all the country girls go to work and live. Whether its to freelance or just get a 'real' job because rice farming in their village is poverty. Just the sheer population numbers are there and the girls are westernised as much as they're ever going to be so you don't get any conservative/traditional resistance. From my experience in other areas like Udon Thani and Suphan Buri (passing through)…
/r/seduction01/03/19 12:52 PM
3

Yeah first time I ever did cold approach before I even knew the term, was an indian girl at the train station. If you aren't completely creepy, it's a pretty low pressure environment!
/r/seduction01/03/19 12:09 PM
3

Good, in depth guide and pretty accurate. I always plug thailand because its so easy there for any white guy. Going from about 1 lay per year back home, I can rock up there, pay for tinder boost, go to bed, and then the next day I can swipe, swipe, swipe to catch all the girls who swiped me, and easily have 100 matches (filter out half of them that are ladyboys, and another 25 who aren't attractive enough - but you get the idea! That's just day 1!). Vast majority of girls that are actually willi…
/r/seduction01/03/19 12:07 PM
2

Nice pointless brag. But I assume it means you have a good profile.
/r/seduction28/02/19 08:23 PM
1

So they'll force you into heaps of approaches and you'll probably still be uncalibrated and creepy and get no results. If you were poor, you could 'find' (cough cough) some downloads of popular coaching programs. If you have money, they're still only a few hundred bucks. I think 'The System' by Todd or 'The Natural' by Max are going to be a much better reference than a few days of some guy pointing at a woman and saying 'go'. Many of the coaches can't actually pick up, so what use are they other…
/r/seduction28/02/19 11:11 AM
0

You already know this but I'll put it bluntly just in case there are any doubts. You are being a beta phaggot who she's using as an orbiter. Move on. Have a read of The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. It puts all these stupid fucking games into perspective and explains why they do it.
/r/seduction28/02/19 11:08 AM
1

This is going to be left-field advice. But there is an indian traditional herb that changed my life. Anxiety pretty much gone forever. It has other benefits too. Takes about 2 weeks of consumption before anything happens but the changes were/are profound for me. It's under $20 for a bottle, so try 1 bottle and see how you go. You'll know if you need to order more. The anxiety you're experiencing is just like I had, and I knew it wasn't natural. I could barely look at girls without freaking out, …
/r/seduction28/02/19 11:05 AM
2

Cute is 'average' or 'fuckable' I guess. Hot is pretty high on the scale.
/r/seduction28/02/19 11:00 AM
3

The question here is do you want to quit while you're only a little bit behind, or make it much more awkward? Go and talk to 4 other girls. If you think she WAS interested (clearly isn't now and you know it), then be talking to other girls when mutual friend group hangs out together, then maybe she'll start chasing again.
/r/seduction23/02/19 12:39 PM
1

I get the most success by far on bumble so it varies. Maybe by city. In the first 24 hours of a new account on any app, the matches I am likely to get (remember this is the only time your profile ever gets shown to anyone): Bumble:10 and at least 4 will say something OkCupid:5 but they're weird hipsters with 6 genders and 5 partners Tinder:3 and they don't reply Hinge:3 or so
/r/seduction23/02/19 12:34 PM
1

6 is pretty much a warmup amount to approach on 1 single day. Let us know AFTER you actually start.
/r/seduction19/02/19 12:26 PM
6

If it's a girl you've never met before, then why would she remember you even 1 minute later?
/r/seduction17/02/19 08:34 AM
3

Very true. If I'm lucky I'll match a 6 on Tinder, but mostly 4's. 32 year olds who weigh more than me.. wow great. A girl you'd probably get with if you were 4 beers deep AND on a dry spell. Yet it's still like pulling teeth to get any response even from these undesirable babymakers / cat ladies. Are they really actually getting any better than me, and if so why are those guys desperate enough to go there? In real life I can very occasionally stumble my way to success with an 8. I'm just too laz…
/r/seduction17/02/19 03:23 AM
2

You're not going to get the truth, or gain anything positive, from talking to him. Been there, done that.
/r/seduction13/02/19 12:35 PM
1

Yep. I live in the middle suburbs of Melbourne. I have to go anywhere that's not my suburb to approach, meet, or date. It's such a timesink just to have a failed date with a mediocre internet girl, because getting them to my suburb seems to imply too much, and that leaves the city as the primary location which is half an hour away and takes most of the night to get to, meet someone for a while, then back home (definitely alone on the first date, too!). If you aren't already a Chad, it's an uphil…
/r/seduction10/02/19 11:23 AM
14

Don't even fuck with shit tests. If any girl shit-tests you, stand up and walk away immediately. This doesn't even make sense if you understand what shit tests are though. To not get them the girl has to be perfectly 100% into you. If you do get them, they're easy to pass once you know how. Does a 9/10 girl with a lot of choice just leap onto your dick without a single test? For anyone posting in this sub and/or not the living definition of Chad, it just doesn't happen.
/r/seduction10/02/19 11:16 AM
1

You waited until the end, and the vibe probably wasn't there. If you have to wait until the end, you're doing it wrong really.
/r/seduction10/02/19 11:05 AM
10

I've been approached at 'mixed' clubs by guys a few times. I think it just means you're physically attractive but not fashionable or with a 'good' vibe, as guys don't pick up the social things that girls do, they just want to smash. Even at one of those clubs, a girl I was dancing with told me 'you're so cute for a gay guy'. All I remember from that point is instantly walking away and slamming as many beers as possible because I actually thought I had a chance with a cute girl and that was much …
/r/seduction10/02/19 11:03 AM
1

Fuck no. I'm 6 foot 2 and if a girl is anywhere near my height I'm not interested. How terrifying.
/r/seduction10/02/19 11:01 AM
2

Are you approaching though? There's only one way to get experience.
/r/seduction09/02/19 07:02 AM
2

Move on man. Chase other girls. You need the abundance mindset. Usually you only like 1 girl a lot because you have built up an image of her in your mind but you don't really know her so it's just an illusion. I would recommend reading The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi, I so badly wish I read it when I was your age, it's like the book of truth, the opposite of the lies the media tells you.
/r/seduction07/02/19 08:08 PM
1

Sometimes, rarely. Every time it's happened to me the girl has turned out to have serious issues. Once I was working as a cashier at my supermarket job and a hot girl seemed to be giving me the eyes. I just brushed it off, I pretty much knew I was a complete loser back then. But when I finished my shift, I had a Facebook message. "Hey name, I always see you at <store> and wanted to know if it's ok to add you as a friend?". She'd somehow found me just from my first name. Small amount of chat, ask…
/r/seduction07/02/19 10:40 AM
2

Every girl says it, basically if you are escalating and she's going along with it, the words coming out of her mouth don't matter.
/r/seduction03/02/19 09:44 PM
2

To be honest the friend left before the end of the night. But you can see my recent thread I posted about it (long read). Sometimes it's actual friend zoning when they say it, but sometimes it's plausible deniability.
/r/seduction03/02/19 09:30 PM
21

I met a girl from Tinder last week who was 'looking for friends'. And she even brought her friend so that I could 'make more friends'. That was the most action I've had in a long time.
/r/seduction03/02/19 07:55 PM
2

Yeah, across the table kills it unless you can get out quickly to salvage it as you've done. Once I was at a bar and a girl tried to make me sit opposite across the table and I just said 'no, I'll sit next to you because it's easier to talk'. She acted wierded out, but I got in the kino (inspecting her shoulder tattoo, etc) then kissed her and ultimately took her home. It can be a test sometimes if they know what you're doing and want to see how you react when they put up obstacles. You're the m…
/r/seduction02/02/19 05:10 PM
3

Calling her yourself is great. Unless you're really terrible at building a bit of rapport..she'll remember you as a guy who didn't hide behind texting. Usually sunday evening is a good time.
/r/seduction02/02/19 08:34 AM
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No. Come on man. You are just cherry picking the 1% of posts that 'confirm' the worst that you seem to want to hear. I've had sex with about 15 girls in my life and only 2 of these encounters were anything that even vaguely resembled a relationship. If anything, I don't believe girls even really do relationships any more, except when they're 29 and desperately need to have 3 kids. Why would they? They can string along 15 guys at once and get what they want from each one until they hit the wall t…
/r/seduction02/02/19 07:27 AM
3

For a newbie it's really going to be tough to succeed with 2 girls.
/r/seduction02/02/19 05:26 AM
14

To be honest if she won't meet alone then either she's fucked in the head with irrational fears about guys, or she isn't into you enough. So you should be either dropping her or telling her to come alone. Once you start conceding to girls demands and tests then they already picture you as 'low value'. Allowing this stuff is how you fail at a date before you've even arrived..
/r/seduction02/02/19 05:26 AM
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It's a shit test of sorts. Try to say something like 'id rather not, let's just get to know each other this time but that sounds fun for another time'. I said exactly that to one girl who tried it, she said 'ok' and we met one on one without further BS. Also check the recent thread I posted where I did pull it of when a girl brought her friend without leaving me any choice. You HAVE to game both girls, you HAVE to make them both like you, because the friend can and will cock block you with no re…
/r/seduction02/02/19 05:23 AM
1

A kiss isn't that hard to get but it doesn't mean a lot. If you're vaguely pleasant a girl won't resist it, doesn't really mean she wants you. The trick is to do it right. You have to create sexual tension. Don't kiss her for half an hour (unless you're pushing towards sex at the time). Kiss her, be the first to pull away, smile, keep talking. Make her want more. Do it a bit more 5 minutes later. Keep talking. Honestly can't tell from your post what you're doing wrong but I'm 32 and I'm just sta…
/r/seduction31/01/19 01:31 PM
3

Well, women's goals aren't the same being just to get laid with anyone vaguely decent looking. So it's a different measure. They aren't really thinking about it necessarily, just a guy comes along and makes them feel good. I didn't have it, now I'm starting to. Looks may come into it as giving me some base advantage, but I've still made overall dramatic changes to my life. 10 years ago I was a WoW nerd who barely left the house and hadn't had sex with anyone. I could barely look at the girl who …
/r/seduction30/01/19 09:24 PM
2

It's not dead. I improved my pictures after getting in shape and now I get a few matches per day. If I manage to not say anything too cringe worthy, I usually get a date per week, probably could go more but I don't want to eat into my gym time too much. Sure, the average quality is much worse than the same guy can get in real life with the right luck and game, but you can still find some outliers or girls who you never would have been near in real life without the app.
/r/seduction30/01/19 10:11 AM
2

There's not much use in a TLDR when the point was to analyse what I did to try to help others. But she brought her friend and I kept the friend entertained and she didn't cockblock and eventually left us alone. I didn't fkd up.
/r/seduction29/01/19 08:58 PM
1

Also, she's on Tinder. She's either looking to go on a date to get a boyfriend or have sex. I've found quite a few Asian girls seem to legit not know what Tinder is for or they're in super strong denial mode about it beyond the usual plausible deniability. "My friend told me Tinder is for one night stands" like it's some sort of disgusting surprise. I'll keep your wording in mind for future "what are you looking for" cases anyway, thanks.
/r/seduction29/01/19 08:57 PM
1

Well, they say they want a relationship because it's a romantic idea. And yes they can get laid at the drop of a hat off the internet. But they can still be turned on, by a guy who isn't 'their type' (i.e. he has natural confidence or learned game). Not necessarily looks. This might come across wrong, but they can be turned on and not actually 'want' to be, i.e. a guy who knows how to push the buttons. This is the basis of game, knowing how the buttons work. And game is only really emulation of …
/r/seduction29/01/19 10:55 AM
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I know, but I didn't have much choice this time.
/r/seduction29/01/19 10:26 AM
1

The usual advice here is to be shameless in flirting with many women. So he got one that doesn't like that. In most of the cases it shows you as being high status but yeah
/r/seduction28/01/19 07:43 PM
3

Maybe she expected you to escalate more on the day of the coffee date, and you didn't, so she feels rejected and butthurt. Other than that, hard to say..
/r/seduction28/01/19 12:59 PM
1

I think you're just making up stats for what you'd prefer to believe though. This guy is barely about 22 and has had about 50 girls from cold approach, he started at a young age because he always had to catch buses. And if it helps destroy your existing perceptions, he is unemployed and lives at his parents house too. I believe the woman in this case, it's time to start believing what they say. Why? You can't take what they say literally because it really means something else. You might struggle…
/r/seduction28/01/19 06:19 AM
2

Any time I've done it and it has actually worked, it's by just saying an offhand comment. I was at the top of a hike - "is this your first time doing this walk?". Hung out for a few hours, got her number, probably meet in a few days. At a train station - "have you been waiting long?" (The train was delayed). Chatted her up on the train for 10 minutes, got her number, in my bed the following week. Both of these worked because the girl was solo, receptive, and my opener seemed natural. Even if it …
/r/seduction28/01/19 04:12 AM
2

I'd say something like oh.. that's a shame, we aren't going to get along then. Like you're showing you don't care what she thinks (and I hope you don't). Whether you do this in a playful flirty manner or serious is up to you.
/r/seduction28/01/19 04:06 AM
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This is all about social conditioning and upbringing. Likely you have been told that it's creepy and the idea got reinforced over time. Why would society tell you that if it's not true? Well, it's always in women's interests to have more beta males. They will act nice, give resources, and not require much sex to continue providing. And the women will still fuck the alpha males who approach them because that's basic biology. They still have sex drives no matter how much a few feminists and their …
/r/seduction28/01/19 03:42 AM
3

It is a crutch but it can work. I would say I'm a solid 7 which surely a lot of guys are. I've not had much success but in the last year I've got better photos and can often meet girls who are 6's and 7's which is better than nothing. You want some photos that are a bit set up or taken at the right moment, even a photo shoot with a pro might not be the worst idea if you have just 2 photos of you from 2016 at the family dinner table or something sad like that. You need some with other people in t…
/r/seduction27/01/19 03:33 PM
1

Yeah it's not really good advice because guys are basically -2 points lower on the scale when they use apps. Girls can pick and choose even if they're very plain and boring.
/r/seduction26/01/19 11:13 PM
1

Go out with a wingman, they will help. They'll pick a girl that you already made an excuse to avoid an they'll make you go in. You need a few intitial ones so you know you've already done it and either it will go better than you thought or you'll laugh at it if it was bad. I do agree it's quite horrible, but you also admitted that you basically have to do it. Start off with asking for directions if that helps. Where's Starbucks, or where's a good restaurant (easier to have a short chat with this…
/r/seduction26/01/19 11:08 PM
1

I'm sorry but the idea is foreign to me. Does this mean stop game or trying to learn it? Sit around and say 'everything sucks and I'm a loser' and wallow in misery until I come out the other side at some future date? Because I'm getting a bit old to waste much more time if that's the case. I'm trying to take your advice because I know throwing myself at girls on the street in my current state is just not going to do anything, but at the same time, I don't know what it practically means. Could it…
/r/seduction26/01/19 10:59 PM
4

People pay for coaching or they read material because they've realised that most of their life so far has been a fuckup. So yeah it's hard to go against all your fears that your parents, peers and society have ingrained in you. And every moment of improvement is a struggle because most feedback is negative. People on the internet, feminist and soyboys tell you it's creepy. Girls actually are creeped out at first when you go in nervous, twitchy and uncalibrated. We avoid rejection and then when w…
/r/seduction25/01/19 06:11 PM
1

You've made so many assumptions about them it's not funny. So you're projecting all these things on them which probably aren't true. Here in Australia there are basically more Chinese than Australians now, and China is a big place. I don't know where you're from but do you think someone from New York and someone from the deserts of Texas are both the same because they're 'white Americans'? No, they're completely different with completely opposite upbringings, environments etc. So in the same way…
/r/seduction25/01/19 06:03 PM
1

How does it actually help? Isn't that what bitter incels are doing, and they're pretty much beyond repair? I'm going through the pain. I thought once I start approaching that's it, I'm on the way. But it's not like in the videos. Every approach is horrible, awkward, and much worse than I imagined it would be. I get constant negative feedback and still have to tell myself I'm doing the right thing. All I seem to be achieving is confirming that I definitely am a creepy loser who women actively try…
/r/seduction25/01/19 05:52 PM
2

Just move on from her man. Complete block and cut off. I know it's hard, but the fact you wrote a 500 word essay about her really says it all. There are plenty of hot, fun girls out there and if you are sitting there pining over one you know isn't interested.. well you're kind of just throwing away the opportunities you do have because she isn't one. Do you respect yourself? It doesn't look like it if you still want a girl that only comes to you to cry on your shoulder about the Chad she wants. …
/r/seduction25/01/19 05:42 PM
3

Knowing I can (can't) get it is more important than actually getting it. It can be tiring, a let down or even regretful with the wrong person. But you don't care until that moment..
/r/seduction24/01/19 03:51 AM
3

Lol everyone finishes at 5pm or later man. Put it this way, everyone who ever achieved anything, they all had the same amount of time in each day. I've found tiredness is all in your head, or you just need to eat maybe. Once you're out there and see a stunning girl, is that really your excuse? Or you're just scared and grasping at straws. It will vanish once you eat a snack, drink some water, and say 'lets go'. If you actually want to do it, you'll do it. You'll go to the gym slightly less times…
/r/seduction24/01/19 03:49 AM
3

Focus on having fun not necessarily how do I get laid. If she's keen and knows you're nervous, she'll do some of the work. Don't expect sex. It may or may not happen. Maybe go with the mindset of just getting to know her. And if it gets physical, nice. And just remember, out of everything available to her, all the guys and her girl friends, she's willing to at least be alone with you. So you've already got a lot of signs! Just do something you guys will enjoy doing or watching together, be fun a…
/r/seduction22/01/19 11:03 AM
1

I bought it. I haven't watched most of it. My sticking point is being comfortable approaching so I'm not going to sit there watching it yet. If I have the time it means I should be out. Sorry not selling but he does seem to know his stuff, I'd probably recommend it if you're actually going to / trying to take action.
/r/seduction22/01/19 09:54 AM
2

This has one, however it seems very conditional. More like 'convince me you need a refund' rather than no questions asked.
/r/seduction22/01/19 09:53 AM
1

Do you actually believe that stuff? Did you think it was funny or ironic?
/r/seduction21/01/19 03:18 AM
7

Very toxic attitude. There are no innocent angels. They act like it when they're on a date with you because they can sense the judgement. Then next week they fuck another guy on the first date anyway.
/r/seduction21/01/19 01:57 AM
5

On the far right on desktop. Not sure how or if it's viewable on mobile sorry.
/r/seduction21/01/19 01:11 AM
1

Well, giving your number is giving him a big green light. It is the riskiest, but personally if a girl has given me her number without asking, I know I don't have to tread lightly any more, I just have to not screw it up.
/r/seduction20/01/19 11:02 PM
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'getting sex'.. that might need addressing. Implies that you're just there to push buttons and extract value. It's a 2 way street where you both want to be enjoying it. Look, it's very very hard to explain without just getting there and trying. You have to connect. There will be some job interview type questions - what do you do for work? But you have to try talking about feelings. If they ask where you grew up, don't just say 'East Bumfuck'. Tell them how you miss the long summer days in East B…
/r/seduction20/01/19 09:06 PM
1

Because generally, in most cases, a rule is a rule for a reason because it does play out as expected 99% of the time. If you're counting on saying 'all women arent like that' and gambling on one girl being a special angel then you've bailed because you just don't have enough options to ignore the red flagged ones.. Are you saying escorts are your only option?
/r/seduction20/01/19 10:50 AM
1

Err they are an ATM tbh. And when he is gone for months you can guarantee several other guys are getting some of that. Pretty common story, the cheating military wife.
/r/seduction20/01/19 10:48 AM
1

I'm 6 foot 2 and I don't magically get laid, hope that helps. It's all in your head. Never listen to what girls say, that's the main golden rule. Even though they think they prefer it, who wins, the guy with the height (me? no) or the guy who has the courage to go up at all and start spitting game? RSDmax is short with a small dick (his own admission), watch his videos and see how it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction20/01/19 10:47 AM
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It sounds like you had more than just a platonic business chat. Give him some signs. More than you normally would. 'Follow up' with how he is finding the apartment. Then give him a blatant hint so HE knows it's ok to push beyond the client barrier. 'Hey if you want to have a drink sometime, here's my private mobile'. Anything like that. Or a hint to take you to anything you both have in common like a live music gig, museum, anything. If you get shut down, is it going to matter? He sounds like he…
/r/seduction20/01/19 10:38 AM
1

Honestly just bring them over. Your parents surely know what's up and aren't going to blow your head off for being a normal human? Just be a bit quiet about it while smashing. I used to bring my gf over when I was in my early 20's, I just didn't 'ask', but we were respectful.
/r/seduction20/01/19 10:31 AM
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They only want followers. Once you see their username there then you know there's barely any point even trying to match with them because they won't talk on the app (they don't use it so you won't match anyway)
/r/seduction20/01/19 12:58 AM
3

Yeah nowadays that flags you as desperate and unattractive and not even shown to hot girls.
/r/seduction19/01/19 07:49 AM
2

Standard shit test. "Never spoken to a girl in my life, you're the first" (with a smirk) "Thousands every day"
/r/seduction19/01/19 07:48 AM
1

Yeah at least getting any response is a start. If all I have is 'hey how are you' then I don't even waste my time typing that
/r/seduction19/01/19 01:59 AM
7

Yep. Shows that you are comfortable with not just praising her.
/r/seduction17/01/19 03:09 PM
1

Yep. Been there. You think you've finally made it because this hot girl picked you. Then you realise it was to use and discard you.
/r/seduction17/01/19 02:01 PM
10

Yeah, I can't imagine that going down well.
/r/seduction17/01/19 01:58 PM
1

Yes. See RSD Tyler (for better or worse).
/r/seduction17/01/19 12:40 PM
103

One of the most important and easy to understand things for me is push-pull. Give a compliment then take it away. "You're actually really cool... Even if you are from Miami." Todd V has some good videos about it.
/r/seduction17/01/19 12:37 PM
1

It's twice as important after college. It's just way easier before then because you don't really have a choice.
/r/seduction16/01/19 08:34 PM
1

My point there was I think it matters online. I'll put it this way. Suppose you had not listed the job? Do you think she would have replied? Or suppose you put in something like "freelance artist" or some other job that may or may not pay enough for you to be independent. I'm thinking most women would not reply in such circumstances, and especially not a well-educated high achiever. She does art in her spare time, so it might have even helped in this particular case. If I listed no job at all sh…
/r/seduction16/01/19 09:58 AM
1

If they're staring at you it seems like they are interested. If they are threatened, wouldn't you see more obvious signs such as them moving away? If they aren't comfortable then drawing attention to themselves, in evolutionary terms, would get them attacked. How are you asking the ones that tell you 'no'? You could even be cheeky about it. 'hey, I noticed you couldn't stop staring at me, it's ok I don't bite. My name is X.' bam, easy opener.
/r/seduction15/01/19 01:25 PM
1

New account because I posted too much identifying info in my local subreddit. Which app did you use, first of all? Were you required to put in your job and income (if not, did you do so anyway? Did you embellish the position/income?) Hinge. It's newish and seems more relationship oriented since you are supposed to write a comment when you 'like' someones photo or text. I provided a slightly vaguer job title than my job really is, without it being a lie. I don't know any apps that ask for your in…
/r/seduction15/01/19 12:31 PM
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