Immigman Archive

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3	Talking to Dad I lost my dad to cancer in 2001. I miss him. Thanks for the comic...	/r/MensRights	17/12/12 03:43 AM
2	The double standard of having a choice on whether or not you want to be a parent. the biggest difference between your analogies and pregnancy is that the mother's is already acting as a life support system before the government could become involved. Excellent! I was waiting for someone to bring that up. That's true, that is also another weakness in the physical integrity argument. Another one is the causation or "proximate cause" argument. Technically, the argument goes that the mother is responsible (is the "proximate cause") for the dependancy, thus, she becomes responsibl…	/r/MensRights	01/10/12 04:10 PM
1	The double standard of having a choice on whether or not you want to be a parent. From that starting perspective, allowing unregulated abortion would be the only instance where an individual is allowed to plan to have another individual killed.< I would agree, this is the weakest link in the physical integrity argument. Playing devil's advocate, while there are few laws that penalize a failure to act when it comes to medical procedures, there are several laws that prevent engaging in action that is detrimental to another. Nevertheless, the principle I expouse does have merit …	/r/MensRights	01/10/12 02:44 PM
1	The double standard of having a choice on whether or not you want to be a parent. Nevertheless, there is no other instance where our laws mandate that medical decisions be made to enhance or defend the life of another person. If we agree that the government has a right and we view the fetus as a person, then why not take the next logical step and mandate medical decision in other areas where this scenario plays out. For example, why not mandate, by law, organ and blood donations. We don't do this now because we value the rights of the individual over the benifit such decision…	/r/MensRights	01/10/12 10:10 AM
1	The double standard of having a choice on whether or not you want to be a parent. Well said. I agree with your comment regarding coming into the argumnt with a pre-existng conclusion.Nevertheless, I don't agree that the argument is circular. Whether or not you believe that the fetus is a person is irrelevant to the fact that in almost every other context we value decisions related to physical integrity over altruism. Like you I am not arguing that abortion is right or wrong, I'm arguing that the government has no place restricting such a procedure even where it adopts the pre…	/r/MensRights	30/09/12 10:06 AM
1	The double standard of having a choice on whether or not you want to be a parent. Actually, it's not different at all. My point isn't related to regulating medical procedures, my point is we don't legislate medical procedures based in the benefit they would provide to another person. The examples you cite are not regulated due to some altruistic belief that it benefits a third party, they are restricted because they are typically seen as harmful to the patient. Not so in the context of abortion. Restrictions on choosing terminate a pregnancy hinge on the belief that a third p…	/r/MensRights	30/09/12 03:16 AM
2	The double standard of having a choice on whether or not you want to be a parent. Not necessarily. In fact in many instances not at all. I know a couple who wanted children desperately. Went through fertility treatments only to discover their child suffered from a disorder which meant he was developing in the womb without kidneys. The child's inability to pass water meant the amniotic fluid was not being replenished in the womb. The result, the child faced an excruciating existence, his bones breaking as he grew but the sac didn't. Once born the child would only survive a few…	/r/MensRights	30/09/12 02:58 AM
11	The double standard of having a choice on whether or not you want to be a parent. Pro-choice is about supporting a woman's right to physical self determination. It's not about wanting or not wanting or not wanting to be a parent. There is no other area of law where we dictate medical decisions based on altruism. We don't mandate that people become organ donors or donate blood. You can be pro-choice and abhor abortion as an elective procedure. Pro-choice is simply about recognizing that a person's medical decisions should be made by themselves, in consultation with their docto…	/r/MensRights	29/09/12 08:58 AM