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| 1 | If all occupations over 90% female went on strike vs if all occupations over 90% male went on strike. Discuss.If women stopped working the child care and food prep and cleaning crisies would be bad enough to rival the infrastructure collapse and end to shipping we would see if men stopped working. She didn't spend 3 hours making dinner because she is lazy or stupid or painfully inefficient. It really does take 3 hours to make a healthy dinner for a large family. The cost savings from making the food from scratch was well over the value she could have provided doing paid labor. While roughly equal number… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/21 02:23 AM |
| 0 | If feminists are teaching women/girls to avoid approaching men to avoid getting potentially raped, it should be perfectly acceptable to teach men/boys to avoid approaching women to avoid potential false accusation casesNo, More men are raped in prison than women that are raped in total. This is based on the feminist over inflated number of all possible reported and unreported maybe rapes of women. So even if we classify all of the feminist derived over inflated possibly rapes as false accusations, there are still more male victims of rape than false accusations. (Prison rape is a huge problem) Since rape does happen outside of prison, and men are raped at roughly the same rate women are, and the false accusati… | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 02:53 PM |
| 0 | If feminists are teaching women/girls to avoid approaching men to avoid getting potentially raped, it should be perfectly acceptable to teach men/boys to avoid approaching women to avoid potential false accusation casesWe do. We don't know if it's 2x or 20x. If 75% of rape accusations are fabrications, then men get raped twice as often as they get falsely accused. If 100% of rape accusations are fabrications, and rape just simply doesn't happen outside of prison. Then you get 50/50 on false accusations to male victimization. While the rate of false accusations is a "dark number" that we don't have solid data on, that rate would need to be OVER 100% for there to be more false accusations than male victims of ra… | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 02:28 PM |
| -1 | If feminists are teaching women/girls to avoid approaching men to avoid getting potentially raped, it should be perfectly acceptable to teach men/boys to avoid approaching women to avoid potential false accusation casesI've clearly stated several times that false accusations ARE an issue. The point your contesting is that actual rapes are a bigger issues than false accusations. More men are raped than are falsely accused. The contention you've presented is that rape is "only" 2x the problem of false accusations rather than the 20x that I claim, like that somehow shows it's less of an issue. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/21 04:56 AM |
| -2 | If feminists are teaching women/girls to avoid approaching men to avoid getting potentially raped, it should be perfectly acceptable to teach men/boys to avoid approaching women to avoid potential false accusation casesIt's much harder to prove rape than other crimes. The assumption in courts is that shooting someone in the face is illegal. The assumption in courts is that sticking you dick in someone is legal. Murder has a higher conviction rate because they only have to prove that you committed the act. For rape cases, they have to provee both that you did commit the act and that the accuser didn't agree to it. It's much easier to prove a false accusation false than it is to prove a rape really was rape. Tha… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 09:12 PM |
| 0 | If feminists are teaching women/girls to avoid approaching men to avoid getting potentially raped, it should be perfectly acceptable to teach men/boys to avoid approaching women to avoid potential false accusation cases"guilty because accusation" is what the feminists are pushing for, it is true for feminist thought bubbles. It's not true for society at large. They have gotten it to the point of "guilty until proven innocent", and that is a huge problem. You do still have the possibility of proving innocence for most of society (its just really hard like have hidden recordings from two different angles and a signed and noterized consent form) | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 06:49 PM |
| -7 | If feminists are teaching women/girls to avoid approaching men to avoid getting potentially raped, it should be perfectly acceptable to teach men/boys to avoid approaching women to avoid potential false accusation casesThis is a bad approach. The issues of rape and false rape accusations are not on the same scale. Rape is a much bigger problem that affects many more people than false rape accusations. False rape accusation is a real problem, and it would be a problem that dwarfs rape if the standard becomes "guilty because accusation". But as of now, false rape accusations are a much smaller problem than rape. If it's reasonable to teach women to avoid men because of the potential of getting raped, then it's r… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/21 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Are more states going to 50/50 for child custody? How soon till it’s standard?There are two things here that are getting confused. 50/50 custody as the "standard" and 50/50 custody as the "norm" Many states have 50/50 custody "standard" in the law, but the courts just ignore it in favor of pandering to women and feminism. We are close to getting the "standard" changed in most states soon. 50/50 custody as the "norm" is still exceptionally far away. The judges and their biases aren't getting replaced when the "standards" change, so the judges rulings and discriminations do… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/21 10:22 PM |
| 1 | greetings fellow men's rights advocates, i have an observation to sharemostly because blacks often have more access to guns. however, additionally, it is because Black do not feel like society allows them to express their emotions. what i find most fascinating about this issue, which it is an issue that should be addressed, is that it was created by black culture. Blacks essentially are responsible for the problem that Blacks face! Is this a fair and reasonable interpretation of the murder crisis affecting young blacks today? | /r/MensRights | 02/03/21 06:51 AM |
| 1 | What’s the wage gap myth?Lots of good answers already here. Not many of the cite one very important fact or tie back into Men's Rights. The myth is that women get paid less FOR THE SAME WORK. It's different pay for different work. It is an earnings gap, not a wage gap. (This is what everyone else already said) The biggest factor in the earnings gap is Child Care Obligations. Something like 80% of the earnings gap is directly tied to the time off and fexible schedules and travel limitations imposed by child care obligati… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/21 06:22 AM |
| 0 | I need help with talking to feminists."Double plus good new speak" All of feminist theory is Double plus good new speak. Every single one of their "theories" is double plus good new speak. Point this out, then you need to elaborate on both versions of what ever it is they are spouting. If you can accurately and reasonably describe "version A" that they think is what they are supporting, they are far more open when you start talking about "Version B" that is referenced and included by use of the same word/phrase. Example. The wage ga… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/21 01:06 AM |
| 2 | the 1 in 3 stat has got to be bogusI know of one study with that finding, I'm not sure if it's the same one and I can't find it to link. The question asked was "If you could rape with out ANY consequences would you?" This is much more of a question on moral foundations than on willingness to victimize women. If I could rape, but there where NO CONSEQUENCES, I would jump on that in a heart beat. NO Consequences, not none for me, but none what so ever. No victim, no trauma no damage, no risks of std/pregnancy, no violation, no harm… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/21 12:21 AM |
| 0 | Does anyone else find it fishy that r/AskFeminists vets their posts?This is the internet. Vetting posts makes sense. How many posts are on r/MensRights that are just "Why do you hate women?" in one form or another? This sub isn't even asking for questions. This is where vetting is a double edged sword. If they don't vet the posts, then it will be so overwhelmed by "Why do you hate men?" that none of the feminists will bother to actually look at the sub and answer questions. With vetting they only allow the soft ball questions that support their positions. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/21 03:36 AM |
| 1 | So tired of explaining the sacrifices men are expected to make as soon as they enter a ‘serious’ relationship.1.It's biased, no shit. It's a womans rant on a women's forum about how she's expected to fill outdated gender roles. It's biased, no shit 2.It is a reasonable proposal. This doesn't make it not sound like it's about enforcing gender roles to the woman it's going to impact. This isn't a peer reviewed scientific thesis. It's a woman ranting about something she doesn't want to do. Obviously full of bullshit, and it is twisted to fit the feminist narrative. It is a woman ranting in a women's forum … | /r/MensRights | 23/02/21 07:00 PM |
| 2 | So tired of explaining the sacrifices men are expected to make as soon as they enter a ‘serious’ relationship.Yeah. She's misinterpreting, but that's kinda the point I'm making. It's not 100% spot on accurate, it's a personal rant about her personal experience. She's probably reading more into specific actions than she should. She isn't considering other perspectives. She went on about her experiences as a woman in a sub dedicated to women and their experiences. It wasn't a nominally neutral source or forum. If she actually stepped back and considered what her brother is going though, I bet it's worse f… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/21 10:32 PM |
| 1 | So tired of explaining the sacrifices men are expected to make as soon as they enter a ‘serious’ relationship.We interpreted the post differently. What I got was that she's annoyed that there is an expectation that she does "Care Taker" for ageing parents dispite the fact that she's got the education and put in all the work to be a scientist. This is a fair and reasonable gripe. I mean the parents have a college fund for the son and a dowry for the daughter. That family is rather strong on traditional gender roles. An honest examination of the situation would show "It's more complex", just like all the … | /r/MensRights | 22/02/21 08:11 PM |
| 7 | So tired of explaining the sacrifices men are expected to make as soon as they enter a ‘serious’ relationship.2x isn't greater society and culture in general. It's a "Women's space" A woman complaining about unfair, out dated, restrictive gendered expectations in a women's space is completely reasonable. And yes, she is doing a fine job of identifying unfair, out dated, restrictive and gendered expectations placed on her. I see the gender reversed version in r/MensRights all the time with posts about how only men are subject to the draft and how we are treated like ATM's for women and their children and… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/21 07:11 PM |
| 12 | Are Millennial Men Sick and Tired of Valentines Day?I suspect this has much more to do with "Millennials have no money" than "Millennials don't enjoy romance" Previous generations, when in the 20-40 age range had stable jobs and houses and kids and all of the other trappings of "adulting" well. Millennials largely don't. We are still struggling to get food at 35. We are working "gig economy" jobs with no stability or growth prospects. Your not going to go out to a $200/person high end restaurant if your food budget for the month is $150. I'm much… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/21 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Yes the MRM is necessary...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign Feminists love to say feminism started with the Suffragettes. Well this is what suffragetts actually did | /r/MensRights | 21/02/21 05:48 AM |
| 3 | Every Man I know has at least one emotional, physical, financial or even sexual assault story. Every. Single. One. OK Narcissists.A ton of women have these stories and you know why? BECAUSE THEY LIE. I'm calling Bull shit. A ton of women have these stories because tons of women are victimized. The problem with feminism isn't that women aren't being victimized, it's that feminism downplays and ignores half the victims that don't fit their narrative of "the patriarchy" Half the victims are female, half are male. Feminism says the half with incorrect genitlia aren't real and don't count. This is the problem with feminism. We … | /r/MensRights | 21/02/21 05:16 AM |
| 2 | We should not be referring to "female genital mutilation", but "female circumcision"There is a reason feminist changed the phrase from "female circumcision" to "female genital mutilation". That reason is "circumcision" is fairly neutral when it comes to emotional reations. "mutilation" is not. Feminists have stopped most religious based hackingg up of female genitalia with that rebranding. Un-doing that rebrand isn't going to make male victims more visible or less likely to be victimized. It's going to let the religious zelots undo the work feminists have done to protect girls.… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 08:35 PM |
| 1 | The notion that "men should get better" pushed by feminists and FDSers is sad and wrongI disagree. Self improvement is a good thing. Men engaging in self improvement isn't going to help the feminists and FDSers. They are shooting themselves in the foot. When you attach your identity and self worth on the valuation of other people, then you run into serious problems. When you engage in self improvement, a side affect is that you can value yourself more accurately and attach identity and self worth to things other than your relationships. After a date I always ask myself "would that… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 08:24 PM |
| 1 | We’ve heard how porn affects women, but has anyone ever talked about how porn affects men?We can pontificate in the abstract about our own personal experiences, but given that people in this sub are a self selecting minority of a subset of a small group, these experiences won't be reflective of the population in general. I don't see how such a thing could be studied. It's a problem of funding. If such a study where to some how get funding, that funding would come from a Feminist source with a mandate that the study find "men are evil". Even if there was a study on how porn affects me… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 07:59 PM |
| 1 | Is feminism about equality?As with everything "left" it's double plus good new speak. There are two disconnected and likely contradictory versions that are both refered to by the same word in order to conflate them. Feminism "A" is puppy dogs and unicorns for everyone. This can very reasonably be described as "about equality". I mean puppy dogs AND unicorns for EVERYONE. Feminism "B" is hateful sexist bigotry. It's a supremacist movement using the same rhetoric and tactics as the KKK and NAZI. So the correct answer is bot… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 07:49 PM |
| 2 | We should not be referring to "female genital mutilation", but "female circumcision"Mutilating an infant's genitalia is bad. It doesn't matter if the genitalia is type "B" or type "G". We shouldn't be hacking off bits of healthy flesh that evolved that way for a reason. Minimizing and normalizing the harm done to girls with genital mutilation isn't going to do anything to help boys and prevent them from being mutilated. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Why Do Women Outnumber Men in College?Look into "school to prison pipeline" Many young men are basically groomed to be a prison bitch from a very young age. We are told over and over that basically everything we do is going to land us in prison to such a degree that we just accept that we aren't going to college or even the workforce, but to prison. With, "I'm going to prison" as a foregone conclusion, why bother trying to get grades for college or even graduate. These where not presented as actual options, "I'm going to prison". Wi… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/21 05:55 PM |
| 1 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?That is a fair criticism. I did a poor job phrasing that bit. I did clarify in the next sentence, but I guess it didn't have the intended affect. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/21 05:12 PM |
| 1 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?Is cat calling as big a problem would you say, as suicide or homelessness among men? Not nearly as big of an issue. Cat calling hurts the feelings of the extremely fragile while homelessness is literally life and death. It seems to be far more column inches and Government and NGO support goes towards many frankly marginal issues women face while life and death issues for men receive only a fraction of the attention and support. Absolutely correct. According to the government a fragile woman's fe… | /r/MensRights | 05/02/21 11:40 AM |
| 1 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?Nothing is EXCLUSIVELY gendered shy of "Has a penis" or "Has a vagina", and some will even question that. So of course there where some women at a very large event, even if that event was mostly men. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/21 11:32 AM |
| 1 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?The problem with the "women have it worse" mentality is that it becomes indistinguishable from "women always have it worse in every way at all times". I'm not doing that. Women do have it worse in some ways, public harassment. Men have it worse in others, expectations of propriety so strict as to be indistinguishable from needing to mind read. Your refusal to recognize that there are ways that women do actually have it worse is just the mirror of the problem mentality. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/21 08:03 AM |
| 0 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?Unlike other forms of sexual violence, harassment is public. You can observe harassment with your own eyes. DV and rape are done in private and we need to rely on reports and statistics to have a clue about how often it's happening. You can spend some time in a public place and just observe how often women get cat called vs how often men get cat called. It doesn't rely on reporting. This open obvious public observable sexual harassment is where women get it much worse than men. It is easily obse… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/21 07:05 PM |
| 1 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?not Nearly as much not Nearly as much not Nearly as much I put the proper qualifier on my statement. Men do have to deal with being sexualized and grouped and harassed. But, not nearly as much. It's not ONLY women getting groped in public, but it is MOSTLY women. Rape and DV are near 50:50, getting cat called isn't. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | How can women help to address men's issues while still addressing their own?I do see your point, It's solid. The problem with the comparison is that there doesn't exist a large powerful publicly supported well funded lobby that is "health care for whites and only whites" There is no "health care for WHITES act" This is what male DV survivors are up against. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | How can women help to address men's issues while still addressing their own?I think that everyone can agree that men are underserved when it comes to resources for domestic and sexual abuse. I'm not even sure how someone could deny that. If served up directly and not lead by the nose, most people will deny male victims are under-served because they don't know how few services there are or how many victims there are. This is why the lead up is important. You need to lead them to the answer. Every feminist I know though there where sufficient DV resources for men until I … | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 10:50 AM |
| -1 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?Congratulations. You got the point I spent 3 paragraphs making. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 10:34 AM |
| 1 | Refuse to accept feminist terms and assumed axioms when debating them.Arguing is pointless, in an argument your trying to change their position. Debate is fruitful. In Debate you are trying to sway the audience. Get them to scream some biggoted rant, then ask if that sounds like equality. They won't be swayed, but the audience will. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Refuse to accept feminist terms and assumed axioms when debating them.You don't even have to be hostile. Just reject the terms. "<feminst term>" is far to loaded of a term to have any actual meaning. It's got about 7 contradictory meanings. You will need to be more specific as to what is actually intended. As soon as you take away the loaded double plus good new speak, either their position is "puppy dogs and unicorns for everyone" or "excessively sexist bullshit" | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 01:19 AM |
| 1 | How many shelters are there for women compared to men?This isn't a battle worth fighting. Pick the battles. Sure, 50% of DV victims are male in reality. But if you can get feminists to agree with the 30% number because it's their number, do so. If 30% of the victims are male, 30% of the Shelter beds should be for men. There is a shortage of DV shelter beds for women with 2500 shelters for women so we need at least 750 DV shelters for men, and increase of 747 shelters. Once there is funding for 400X the number of shelters we have now, then we have i… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Exiting the argumentDon't argue, debate. In an argument the goal is to change the other person's mind. In a Debate the goal is to sway the audience. You know her, the ultra-bigots are easy to manipulate. When you will have to interact with her, set it up so that both your words and hers sway the audience (the other committee members) to what you want. My favored tactic here is prep work. Before the meeting chat her up with something you KNOW will set her off. Get her all worked up and annoyed BEFORE the meeting. Sh… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Is the show "Mr. Bean" bad for Men's Rights because of how it depicts the male persona?Mr. Bean is Mr. Bean, not "all men". The show had many men that where perfectly normal functional people. There was no "all men" aspect, but a "look at this freak". Mrs. Bean wouldn't be the exact same as Mr.Bean, but it could be done. A woman being an imbicle would just be marginally different than a man doing it. The pool episode wouldn't be her walking around naked, but trying to get into the pool in a full formal gown or something. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Why is it about gender? (it's not)There is gender discrimination in the modern world. It doesn't look the same as discrimination in the 1800's when help wanted ads would have "Irish need not apply" on the bottom. It's much more social pressure and workplace distancing and stereotyping that results in lower rates of pursing career paths for some demographics. This is more and more of a stretch when it comes to women's representation in the work force, but it's rather clear with some problems with male representation in the workfo… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/21 12:30 AM |
| -1 | This might be a naïve question to ask but just out of curiosity, why do you think many feminists have so much anger towards men?It sucks to be a woman. There are all sort of thing that women have to deal with on a daily basis, like going to work and actually doing the work and sitting in traffic and going to the grocery store and cooking dinner and doing the dishes. These are things most men and women have to do almost every day. Women are included in the group that does this stuff and it sucks. What your seeing in the women complaining about men is exactly this. They are women, it sucks for them, therefore it must be be… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/21 10:34 PM |
| 2 | How can women help to address men's issues while still addressing their own?The biggest thing is "changing the narrative". The biggest obstical to Men's Rights is the feminist narrative of female victimhood. If/when you find yourself in a conversation about "violence against women", simply don't accept that framing. Redirect the conversation to "Domestic Violence" and "sexual violence". Once your talking about "Domestic Violence", then you can reframe the narrative with comparisons to how often women are victims vs how often men are victims. This will get the male victi… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/21 10:12 PM |
| 3 | So apparently (in the usa) only men have to register in the draft and somehow the initial (obviously correct) ruling got overturned. What the fuck is this shitThe people with guns are capable of kidnapping you at gun point. The option of "Please don't kidnap ME" is just not an option if the kidnappers decide to start kidnapping people. The best solution we've come up with so far is "The Draft" where there are procedures for the kidnappers to follow and we can slow the roll of the kidnappers and protect the most vulnerable from the kidnappers. That people protected from "The Draft" as "the most vulnerable" are getting all the benifits we grant to peopl… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/21 09:40 PM |
| 7 | So apparently (in the usa) only men have to register in the draft and somehow the initial (obviously correct) ruling got overturned. What the fuck is this shit"The enemy" isn't "People operating under the label <whatever>". The opposition to Men's Rights is "People operating under the ideology of male disposability" If the people behind these orgs are actually going to fight for actual gender equality, then they are on our side for this fight. If you ever lose sight of the real goal, gender equality, actual function both sides are equal gender equality, and start fighting "feminism", then your no different than the feminists that have lost sight of th… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/21 09:31 PM |
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