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DiscussionImpossible_You_8555/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:56 AM
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Women are only useful for sex and bearing children imho (besides whatever intrinsic value is in their proffesion, doctor, lawyer etc...) . Having spent more than enough time around them if I didn't have a libido I wouldn't Love besides being useless takes too much time, would I rather read a book or learn a new hobby or just hear a woman chatter. Life is too short if you value yourself and your time. If you want a son to carry your family line he needs a mother and father traditional family stru…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:32 PM
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Men want to get the guy who they are willing to risk nothing happening and get causual sex, we would rather get casual sex than be loved. Love is a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:22 PM
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Fun is nice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:24 AM
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I know plenty of smart women who have causal sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:05 AM
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I know very few women who haven't had causal sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:48 AM
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What about for just causal sex, every guy knows looks dont matter that much for ltrs That's not what we're really talking about when we talk about looks mattering
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:46 PM
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Tiger woods 1 pretended he was a boy scout 2 I'd say these people some are richer than tiger, and most are more establishment, athletes and celebs are influential, rich but not really high socio
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:06 AM
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I'm talking people in elite organisations and colleges from 20s to 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:10 AM
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Chubby girls that suck good dick and aren't "nice", probably fuck well, yeah. Vs polite women, which do you think gets your dick harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:37 PM
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All women are the same in terms of a lot of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:36 PM
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"Monumental" I have to paint my face and pick out clothes Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:08 AM
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Try more Don't try too much Be yourself Self improve Approach Don't approach I want it to be natural
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:52 AM
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The 3/5 argument was about census results for the number of congressional seats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:41 AM
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It's not returning to the paleolithic because in the paleolithic my woman points at some other guy and I can bash his head in. Without the law caring. No, no, no there was negative selection and positive selection. Now a pretty boy will win against a guy who can fight and would choke him the fuck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:39 AM
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Bear the brunt they create the brunt. They create drama, they yap yap yap, complain complain complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:36 AM
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Come on, even women with money act like their life is soo hard. They just love to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:34 AM
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Maybe we should go back, women seem to complain no matter what they get. Not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:34 AM
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If you work hard you too can die of a heart attack while working at the bottom of the medical hierarchy!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:32 AM
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They are looking for long term relationships from guys they consider not attractive and give obligation sex and in return what you to have your life revolve around them even though they gave it up for good looking guys when they were younger and hotter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:29 AM
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No you aren't. The point of self improvement is to get a desired result. This don't do things for external reasons is stupid as shit. Do things to get money, status, sex, adventure, shit you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:24 AM
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You go to a club to be approached
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:17 AM
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My question is does it work for one night stands, my experience was allot of guys n closed or made out, or got dates but like it didn't help it getting a girl right away. Alcohol was imho more helpful than pua was to get laid quickly, that is probably why I drink so much. Two drinks gives you charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:16 AM
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Does it work for ons is the question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:13 AM
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Or you don't understand what's sexy to a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:00 AM
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Honestly really hot women don't put you in your place, it's the 7s who do. A really hot girl if she likes you doesn't have all these rules 7s have to categorise a guy. I'm average and tbh I'll go for the really hot girl because oddly I'm less likely to get shit, less likely to get your only relationship not hookup material. 7s expect to get treated like 10s, but they don't know how 10s get treated so are just all around awful. They have this thing that you have where they feel the need to put yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:54 AM
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Such cope. Yeah rich kids aren't fucking, sure, buisness guys and women don't fuck around. Sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:51 AM
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Whenever I meet a woman who I think isn't awalt, she always ends up being
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:50 AM
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Drunk sex is fun. I prefer being a bit drunk than being sober. It's exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:05 AM
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I said I'm weird
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:40 PM
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I'd rather die than tell my kid who lost at something good job Feeling good is for winners No they are called your wife or husband A wife's job is different than a husband, a husband is the head of the house and makes decisions Partners are for "men" who can't control their wives and their wives probably didn't even take their last name
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:50 PM
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To win any contest means someone failed at winning You define success as just happiness I guess, so if you want to be a happy loser loved by his fat wife In the grand scheme of global economics, yes, if you live in the first world and enjoy cheap affordable products it is because some other people lost
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:49 PM
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Partner Say wife or girlfriend I don't want weak or needy kids And your wife isn't your partner she's your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:47 PM
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I have a very high risk tolerance, and put a low value on personal safety
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:40 PM
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I find kindness in women unattractive, or at least I like when she's mean to other people. If she's nice to you and shit to others that's sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:33 PM
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You don't make them weak, they are weak You don't make them poor they are poor Why is this difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:31 PM
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"healthy" "stable" My friends don't need cheerleaders
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:30 PM
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Being rich means that you are rich compared to the poor Being strong means you are strong compared to the weak Yes civilization needs allot of weak, stupid suckers. To prop it up, it used to need slaves too before the industrial revolution. If you want to waste energy crying about how the world is unfair, go ahead. If you want to be nice fine. The world needs people like you to be taken advantage of. Sorry. Also I think men shouldn't pay for women and any woman who is with you for money is fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:24 PM
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Me yeah but I'm weird
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:19 PM
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Saying ng it's mean or destructive doesn't mean it's wrong. Yes some people are inferior, try not to be one of them, winning means some people will lose. Life isn't a kindergarten class where we all hold hands and love each other
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:14 PM
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Society has "advanced" too much, technology should move foward but we need to roll back the clock in many ways socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:00 PM
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You got lucky it was a woman's apartment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:57 PM
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Being drunk and fucking is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:56 PM
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Unless you need someone to make babies no point, it's just sex with more bullshit otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:54 PM
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The trick is to be good enough you can get sex without relationships. Relying on a woman is dumb Social sciences are not just as essential. They are a time wasting luxury that is full of left leaning horse shit. I wasted money and time on such a graduate degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:48 PM
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Pinning test feels great too, permanently gave me more chest hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:46 PM
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Progressive men don't belive in competition and to win someone needs to lose, you need to not only self improve but be better than the losers by comparison. Also look how you say stable, it's a focus on fine, good enough not winning. I'd rather be a dictator, than a cheer leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:44 PM
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Also we can talk about his advice seperate from who he is as a person. His advice is good (aside from his Tate University stuff), it's simple. Him as a person, I don't personally know him or his guilt or innocence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:42 PM
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I wouldn't get off a plane, but you don't feel great when you do have a lady pilot. Imho some jobs, women shouldn't do. Race car driver, pilot, heart surgeon, anything requiring both dexterity and nerves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:36 PM
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See you use non competitive terms, progress, self growth, any loser can make meaningless progress, oh boy look at your personal best. That doesn't mean jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:35 PM
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Women aren't honest about this, they just aren't and the few who are will tell you essentially they would fuck a guy like Tate, or be fuck buddies with him. The question is, would you rather a woman give you her pussy or get a relationship and have her respect. Personally I couldn't care less if women respect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:33 PM
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An academic, haha, I've dated academics, no offense to the social science phds out there but I never felt wowed. I've also been with professional women, honestly as a guy it means jack shit. All women act the same after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:28 PM
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I love the salty responses to this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:56 PM
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That doesn't mean it's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:25 PM
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I live a rougish life, and I have a modicum of charisma irl, and I can tell you this women, the same who find my life charming often claim to dislike it. I will say American women are exceptionally bad as they both are shallow while often themselves being overweight etc...and shame men for wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:37 AM
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What's funny is I'm a nihilist and even I look at these people and think wtf it's like they are speed running to misery
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:00 AM
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I live outside of the states now so I'll take your word for it In expat land women judge me for not sleeping with prostitutes I'm not sure why opportunistic is an insult at the very least not one women should use, I've heard women explain why they ltr not good looking guys with good jobs and fuck good looking ones, can't think of anything more opportunistic than that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:21 PM
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Parroting it's a good thing doesn't make it a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:39 PM
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The people who disagree with this, there disagreement is based on faith that we are all blank slates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:37 PM
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We are talking about a unhealthy mass delusion that will mess up children
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:35 PM
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You fuck her and don't give her your name, number and only if you're out of town
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:31 PM
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Don't care what feminists think. Really that's the simple solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:47 PM
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You clearly have not been to central Europe Sexually agressive they are not As for Thailand its full of degeneracy A better equivalent would be south America or Eastern Europe. And no one really cares if dudes go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:44 PM
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Girls get excited by chads Chad's are not necessarily exciting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:35 PM
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I don't want a healthy relationship, I would much rather have someone ruin themselves voluntarily for me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:01 AM
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Chad doesn't have to be exciting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:00 AM
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I mean that is the highest praise, someone saying you make my life better is less praise than someone ruining their life even a little bit to please you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:01 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:23 AM
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It's called cancel culture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:22 AM
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Being a good person doesn't pay, unless you believe in God and since the bible doesn't mention being able to be a rich asshole who fucks allot in heaven why the fuck would I go there Honestly being a "good person" is stupid, whether you are a man or a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:17 AM
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If you both fuck others in the talking phase it's fair Honestly if you're both just talking I'd say fuck others not matter what especially if she's had casual sex before even if she isn't currently fucking other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:30 PM
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Talking now, don't think that's pathetic, it's expecting exclusivity or commitment before sex Like if you're talking to a girl and you're both fucking others that's fine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:48 PM
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1 If she wants commitment and she isn't fucking you she isn't physically attracted to you (thinks you are sweet, kind, harmless etc... Wants sex from you only as intimacy or maintaince) 2 There is no point in a relationship without sex, that is just a friendship and commitment before sex is just desperation. A man she actually wants physically she won't do that to. 3 It's just miserable and pathetic for a man to do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:35 PM
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If you're ugly money is everything
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 12:31 PM
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Not more than a month but the key thing is until sex you aren't exclusive and it isn't serious So even if it's more than a month as long as that part is understood no big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 12:00 PM
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It's just simple and true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 02:57 AM
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If you've never done casual sex at least it's understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 11:17 PM
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If she doesn't fuck you she doesn't want you Especially is she has had casual sex before it means she is just emotionally attracted to you and that by itself is lesser and disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 11:17 PM
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If you aren't have sex yet it isn't serious
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:01 PM
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Nope he should keep it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 10:01 PM
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If a girl doesn't physically want me I don't want her It means she isn't physically attracted to you I know women will say no no and they might believe that in their woman brain its nuanced way but that is what it means Also I wouldn't trust a woman who didn't have sex first. I'm not going to ruin my own life sorry honey No man should ever commit before sex I don't care how blue they might be A guy who commits before sex is a simp or a sucker or just really really uggo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:56 PM
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It's all gross. I'd never touch a stripper or any "sex worker"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 06:18 PM
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It's not a romantic anything unless there is sex Until you get sex, she should expect no loyalty After that you can have a conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:36 PM
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It's more the profession that makes them gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:36 PM
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Ah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:07 PM
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Are these women good looking or low smv poly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:40 PM
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Feeling entitled often works because you are just more motivated. A lot of successful people are very entitled. OP wants to get sex not to be a "better person" as long as he gets consent why shouldn't he feel entitled. It's better to act entitled. In truth the world entitles us to nothing, safety, kindness or respect. How often do women say I'm entitled to kindness or respect or support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:38 PM
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It's not just validation it's excitement too and prostitutes are gross, there is not a way around that. As much as we say sex work is work, it's just instinctively disgusting, it makes a woman low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:36 PM
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Real life yep online no
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 04:34 PM
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Thank you, same to you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:15 PM
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I like nature and I like historic buildings. I enjoy these things existing and appreciate beauty. If all things are amoral than just liking something is enough because 1 there isn't anything more 2 there is nothing wrong with being selfish I am mostly conservative because I prefer a world with conservative values and hold no respect really for most of the values of leftism, so I vote conservative. I love animals that is a personal feeling I have about them and animal cruelty makes me sad so I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:01 PM
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So basically unless you are a woke knitting circle social activity is unacceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:43 PM
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Yes male friends will gasp sometimes tell racist jokes, oh no, I have friends of all races and many even have oh no racist opinions but we still get along. Again men bond differently. Also yeah if one of your boys gets in a fight in a bar you back him up. I mean female groups don't do much, the reason male groups do bad things is simply a group of men is more capable as a team than a team of women, women have agreed with this statement btw. Men naturally can do team work in a way women cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:29 PM
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Close male friendships are different, it's not about vulnerability, support comes in the form of shit talking and encouraging actual self improvement, not feelings based stuff. Men bond by doing, and helping each other do and shit talking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:26 PM
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I have close male friends and we are (proudly) "toxic". No political correctness no oh its wrong to cheat, or don't objectify women, no bullying. You can't have male friendships and political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:24 PM
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I mean its different. I think saying woman and men are the same. You're girl isn't your best friend and your best friend isn't gonna be a woman. Very different things. You ask advice from your friends, you are equals. You're girl you fuck, and penetration means dominance as well as having to tend to her feelings more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:21 PM
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Two guys I know with the highest lay counts 1 hates women, thinks of them like farm animals, is tall and good looking 2 was indifferent about women is tall and good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:22 PM
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Yeah its like, I had some feral pets growing up, and it's really allot like dealing with that. I honestly think that helped me in dealing with difficult girls quite easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:46 PM
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Depends on your tik tok, my tik tok is filled with chubby girls doing bad pole dancing and fail vids Ymmv Whatever you like the most ends in your feed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:40 PM
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I'm a bit older and dated "masculine" women and we just end up doing fun stuff, watching sports, hiking, drinking together. She's sporty and maybe a little feisty in a I take challenges, face my fears kind of way. The thing is the non zoomers a girl who is a tom boy it's not some werid identity and they are also feminine and soft, they just like dude stuff too and maybe act more feisty or whatever. Like you see her be soft but she still needs you to be the strong one. She doesn't boss you around…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:36 PM
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Yep mine never divorced for the sake of the family and it was a shit show. Divorce is the lesser of two evils sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:17 PM
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Divorced easy, I don't wanna fuck myself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:15 PM
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Eh...I've lived life mostly as a loner without community. In some ways it's easier to not There have always been drifters and adventurers and loners
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:22 PM
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Yes but that is more a situation where you use the collective and the weak to gain, it's not cooperation it's a competition and mutual exploitation, with temporary aligned goals Women don't have to gain dominance so it's different, also women are weaker and can't really compete, their value is essentially their womb not their status
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:29 AM
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The collective is only useful when it aids in increasing one's own status, wealth or dominance
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:27 AM
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Yes it's bad for you, but it's good for the individual Also self interest often drives civilization and conquest, if you want to live in a capitalist society than you appreciate self interest If you have silly notions of altruism and collectivism well you live in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:33 AM
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Why is self interest bad? Self interest is the biological purpose of an organism It is not a moral purpose, moral nihilism simply claims morality isn't real
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:18 AM
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You can care about a cause without considering it moral. You can have a preferred state you desire, or desire your kids living in etc.. But don't ground that preference in morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:15 AM
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Not trp per se, am a moral nihilist I would say TRP is more fatalist or pessimistic, it does believe in a morally ideal world very strongly but sees decay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:13 AM
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A car can go up in value if its over 30 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:41 PM
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The goal of playing the game is to win
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:40 PM
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Congrats on studying the same useless topic! No it's open trade, that's the main thing, people use it incorrectly but if you think open trade is good you're a neo liberal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:01 PM
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Have dated liberals actually, I'm not religious. In practice I think that's the main thing. Anyway I'm saying your a good mother imho letting your son have his beliefs and just avoiding the topic, putting family before politics. Too few people do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:57 PM
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In poli sci its essentially being for open trade
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:55 PM
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In the American vernacular it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:54 PM
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Good for you. It caused my family to break up since I am very much not a pacifist (am a neo con more or less). I just tried not to talk about it. Its good when politics don't break up a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:51 PM
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Valentines day revolves around women cause women like chocolates and roses, it's a little cute holiday that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:46 PM
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Joan of Arc also was actually a horrible military thinker but she was so bad for a while she was unpredictable. Essentially the English couldn't even imagine, it's like playing poker against a completely untrained opponet who has no idea of the games rules can be extremely difficult. The Marie Curie example has well. Mother Theresa I think definitely did, and perhaps in a negative way, long story short she didn't give painkillers to patients in her clinics because she thought pain brought you cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 10:23 PM
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So we mostly agree. I did some graduate work in sociology and had a close friend who was studying anthropology (this was around maybe 10 years ago now) and then anthropology and sociology seemed to have a more it's a social construct views Lyiastriata is a greek comedy, written by aristophanes and is not about a matriarchy it's basically plot is women organise a sex strike, to end the a war. Interesting about patagonia, yeah you see allot of founding myths that aren't true but are believed. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:38 AM
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It's worth noting bell hooks isn't a sociologist and comes more from a background in legal theory In general I am against special legal categories and I'd personally argue the legal history of crimes of passion really relates more to how the law used to treat personal crimes, it's more of a vestige from that Also male violence when channeled builds empires.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:55 AM
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Social skills are skills. You express your personality through social skills. Allot of pill people I suggest don't have great social skills, why they are obsessed with rules. It's like playing a sport, you don't think about the rules or technique consciously if you have become adept at the game. That takes practice and allot of people didn't get enough practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:53 AM
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I actually agree mostly. I think making marriage a non legal contract would solve that, the issue of gay marriage etc... Get the government out of marriage, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:52 AM
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You forgot the other main reason, the Spartan property inheritance system was matrilinear. However Sparta's policy was essentially dictated by its two kings. Sparta was lead my men but the affairs of individual estates were lead by in practice women. Women were held in esteem but were not leaders per se but overall had more autonomy in many ways than did Athenian women. I never said its unnatural for women to have power in limited ways or manage the day to day affairs of estates women are genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:37 AM
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Yep pua should make a come back, pua was the best counter to redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:38 PM
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This is correct but its not just looks, the average guy is boring
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:37 PM
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Pua is how to pick up women, trp forgets you also have to be fun Also I'd say bluepill advice isn't be yourself, the blue pill types I've meet try very hard to be blue pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:36 PM
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Social skills not personality, money allows self devolpment, but yeah not fucking in your 20s is dumb, also being social and networking is important
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:34 PM
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I read allot of history, if you mean feminist arguments per se, I've read a few feminist readers and did a course heavy in gender theory and remained unconvinced. Biology, hormanal effects on the brain and a rather universal organisation among human beings makes me sincerely doubt a socially constructed patriarchy that is not downstream from human biology is the cause for men tending to be in positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:28 PM
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Not really, maybe Road Warrior. Are you asking me personally. Personally I'd want competitive agressive kids. I'd rather them have to be tough than live in a sort of socialist world. I'm the wrong man to ask this from, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:15 PM
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Wtf are you in favor of women essentially legally stealing mens hard earned money? I would understand if you were a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:37 PM
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Or just get rid of welfare and abortion. Don't make policies due to heart strings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:36 PM
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We shouldn't have equality of outcomes though. Those naturally more talented deserve more because they can take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:29 PM
2

True but in their 20s they are a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:19 PM
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Well then you have to learn more cause that's what it is. Dig deeper and you will see we are not naturally equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:14 PM
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I do, and most people naturally do so I don't give a shit about overpopulation. I live in a first world country it's not my problem. Yeah not everyone gets to successfully multiply its called evolution and competition. I'm not gonna not spread my genes because of starving kids in Africa. Winners get to mate and losers don't, that's how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:10 PM
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Patriarchy is a boogey man that is the output of women naturally being less competitive and men being wired to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:08 PM
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Maybe I don't want someone to get unearned free shit from me, strange I know. Maybe if she decides to leave out of female capriciousness I don't want to pay for her to find herself or whatever. My money is my money and it's not there for some woman who I wasted time and energy on. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:06 PM
1

Almost all anti traditional gender claims run counter to reality when you dig into information and require faith
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:03 PM
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Don't propagate your own genes, socially castrate youselvs for the environment! No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:54 PM
23

Not just the crime rate, but the ones who aren't criminals ain't gonna be normal boys either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:52 PM
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Oh yes more men raised by single mothers. Either maladjusted criminals of weird soft mammas boys, surely the answer, and welfare! Also I'm willing to bet it won't be the best and brightest who jump on this first. Why I'm not a democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 03:52 PM
1

Cute little crows feet
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:23 AM
1

I want my wife not life partner cringe to appreciate what a shit head I am
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:56 PM
1

Irl it means she had dude hobbies, but no girl I've ever met has the personality of a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:54 PM
1

My fwb is the best bro ever
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:53 PM
1

Idk I think it's more of a lie they tell themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:51 PM
1

A fat 28 year old with kids, what are we in a trailer park
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:50 PM
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Because n count is stupid and originally was a pua phrase used to brag about one's own n count and trp is puas weird trad step child
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:48 PM
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Honestly drunk me wouldn't man hooking up with a fat girl in crocs just out of curiosity. Like you know the sex ain't gonna be boring
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:47 PM
1

Most dudes talked about this in college and high school it was just more informal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:45 PM
1

If they are 18 plus doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:44 PM
1

Yes why we tend to have positions of power, winning and such
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:42 PM
1

We put our friends down and shit talk but also help when they need help and give straight talk. Telling someone their flaws that they can correct (like physique) isn't helping it's codling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:40 PM
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It's also the left insisting all examples of close male friendships is gay or has homosexual undertones. The left wants to generally ally people to what it considers its constituent groups so they try to reframe things that way. That being said in my experience close male friendships is more frequent in conservative circles with lefties tending to have lots of acquaintinces, coworkers, but little camaraderie with male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:39 PM
1

No one cares about women's sports because its boring unless they are sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:50 PM
1

I'm glad I never saw my dad cleaning with apron, no one wants to have the weird effete dad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:50 PM
1

The NFL doesn't care about its audience its about being woke, but they again it's a sport designed for television
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:48 PM
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But it still declines
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:37 PM
1

40 something single chicks are cray cray you want drama, honesly they have it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:36 PM
2

Yes at best you plateau for a very long time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:35 PM
1

Men who don't like 35 at 35 are attractive and it's easier for a man to avoid aging visibly, thicker skin, less saggy bits etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:35 PM
1

Sexiness and fertility are related and it's more why younger wlmen are swxy and it's true if you're around an 18 to 24 year old year old they have this glow, their skin feels smooth, they smell better, you can just feel a level vitality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:33 PM
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I mean I think trp addresses mostly euro centric, middle class concerns in general as that is the most blue pilled demographic. Also less guys wanna fuck black girls or at least openly admit that as a preference sober, so it's talked about less. Honestly older women if they are fit have a different type of sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:31 PM
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18+
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:51 PM
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I just want sex fast, don't care about n counts when I do want a future wife just care about loyalty and obidience there in the present
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:33 PM
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I have been a vegan to directly address your point, I lift and if you do any sort of strength sports veganism does fuck that up so like the career part for me there is a direct negative to it. I would swith to lab grown meat only if that was possible. Personally I'm a moral nihilist so I don't think there are actual moral imperatives, just arational preferences and like I said my primary preference is competition, that the strong naturally dominate the weak in the game of life, and birth is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:05 PM
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I didn't say that. Life is a contest between the strong and the weak, being born is the starting line. Not fair to axe someone before the contest begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:59 PM
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Me personally I'm pro death penalty, and generally think life is cheap, anti welfare, anti public health care. If a woman said I just don't care about human life, and I'd abort it even with synthetic wombs, just cause I don't give a damn about life, I'd respect that tbh I do think the lives of the innocent who haven't proved themselvs to be weak shouldn't be snuffed out. Let them be born, fend, maybe without support and see if they can make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:53 PM
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I mean all women were created for that, it's in their genes. It's just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:59 AM
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How is that hatred? Mothering a child is a wonderful thing. Traditional women acting in accordance with nature at home with their child, cooking, supporting the man, following him is wonderful. I love true feminity. I appreciate women and what nature created.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:55 AM
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I did, humans are larger cell formations, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:49 AM
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Women have lowered athletic, physical abilities, because their bodies are built for incubation and nursing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:47 AM
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We are all cell formations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:46 AM
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Nature made women to be incubators
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:29 AM
0

If you'd rather it be dead, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:28 AM
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I think it's actually becoming more red leaning
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:33 PM
4

This
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:12 PM
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I think both parties end up going, yeah they know they were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:11 PM
2

Why I said processed meats, steaks, chicken legs no, but for processed meat products definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:02 PM
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No one wants a veggie burger who wants a real burger
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:50 PM
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People got used to processed meat, then gmos If the cost goes down for processed meat products, ground meats, burgers I can, see it becoming the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:42 PM
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True although no girl gets wet thinking about an accountant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:57 PM
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Yep. When people care about a degree more than actual skills or even income it's usually just a form of classism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:47 PM
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For dating they care about college because it's almost like a, pedigree thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:34 PM
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A college degree is a marker of class more than education. Anyone can finish a liberal arts degree, and what is learned is mostly bullshit however it says I'm part of a certain class of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:31 PM
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Being a politician in and of itself lmao. Okay normal people don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:29 PM
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You mean trafficking or not respecting that commendable field of masterbatian with a web cam
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:21 PM
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Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:15 PM
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Honestly if he trafficked yes, if he ripped off some cam girls I can't say I really care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 04:05 PM
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Andrew tate is legit successful, business wise. He owns several businesses Ah the middle class hate of working class conservatism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:49 PM
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6 figures isnt super rare, and niether is 6 inches tbh A corporate manager making 60k is a pretty bad corporate manager
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:46 PM
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Europe does indeed have hot moms
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:08 PM
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People get fat from eating too much Aside from rare disorders
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:22 PM
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Former fat person, you get fat by eating too much
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:13 PM
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It's not part of their body, its a entity living in their body
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 02:10 PM
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There aren't any good reasons, there are reasons but they all boil down to, I'd rather it be dead cause I can
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 11:45 AM
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I mean for one or two involved it was The third... If there was an artificial womb all of you could have lived and reaped the same benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:58 AM
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Very rarely yes but in general we don't make rules based on very rare events The vast majority of abortions are just having unprotected sex and not wanting to be pregnant It's not incest, rape, death to the mother, failed contraception The vast majority it's just women who want cum in their vaginas and don't want kids, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:50 AM
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Don't have unprotected sex then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:40 AM
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No one would be forced it would be either have the child naturally or transfer it. It's just providing abortions would be banned That doesn't violate autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:39 AM
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You act as if when life starts already has a clear answer If something that might be killing a life, can be avoided and the benefits of not having to carry the child, sacrifice your career etc, it should be Anyone who isn't pro life if artifical wombs were an option would just be someone who wants to kill a fetus really really bad for no good reason Abortion should absolutely be banned if we have artificial wombs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:26 AM
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Because attraction is based on primal logic and toxic masculinity is actually good that's why. Agressive competitive people win and others are weak and the weak aren't meant to prosper. Men shouldn't just display traditional masculinity and "gendered behavior" they should embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:12 AM
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I've come to see that. Talking to most pro choice people, almost makes me want to be pro life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 09:14 AM
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Op isn't talking about that, it's pretty clear, stay on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:51 AM
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Lab meat is starting already. This isn't robot wives, a cure for cancer, artificial wombs are reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:50 AM
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Totally reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:48 AM
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So you'd rather kill an unborn child, then let someone else raise it You think adoption is worse than death? That's strange Yes it is a problem Right now choice means abortion, it means killing an unborn life, okay raising a child and bringing it to term, not wanting to sacrifice a career or carry it for 9 months, so you this awful thing No one thinks abortion is good like the death penalty or war sometimes it is worth the cost Here is a way the negative part could be avoided. Being against this…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:44 AM
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Honestly yes, if you could safely transfer the fetus any woman who still wanted an abortion would kind of be a monster
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:43 AM
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Maybe women should recognise they should be thankful that a man would be in a relationship with them because its the man doing them a favor
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:20 AM
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This simply isn't true. Women do give out free sex. I've gotten free sex, allot of men have. I've gone from ugly to above average looking (surgery, steroids not being naturally attractive), and nothing makes you see the bullshit about it more. A relationship you give up way more peace of mind, deal with way more insanity. There is free sex, and there is costly sex, and the difference is how you look and women will pretend that the relationship is the better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:06 AM
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Relationships are for men rejected for causal sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:57 PM
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It's not non existent. This is why men here find women insufferable Good fit, christ, you can't say that it's a raw deal can you I run my own actual business not by analogy, and this is why ltrs are a waste, a relationship is an insult, its a woman saying you're a sucker and inferior to a guy I'd fuck, but you should pretend you are lucky cause yiu get maintaince sex and get to her me complain and have to pretend where equals A modern wife is worse than a prostitute and I am anti prostitute If t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:53 PM
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All women are crazy better a slashed tire than a wife. The only reason to be with a woman is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:52 PM
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Not really. If you're not a good enough looking guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:01 PM
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Most women don't just desire relationship sex, maybe you do, and that's the confusion. Most women categorise men for either relationships or causal sex and act like the relationship man is the lucky one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:30 PM
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You're acting like relationships are a gift, they are a burden and nothing but a fee for unattractive men pay for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:08 PM
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The problem is modern women who say they only want relationship sex, with not great looking guys act like said guy is really the lucky one, he gets her heart etc... And modern relationships women demand support without being feminine and submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:07 PM
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Easier than average height or slightly above average
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:30 PM
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Not rasing some other man's cum droppings isn't being a dead beat, a man raising another man's kid is an evolutionary failure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:27 PM
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Yes but women expect men to want relationships and value love, why would I want to be an emotional supportive partner when I can have freedom and adventure?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 02:26 PM
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Allot of guys just want to fuck, and don't want a relationship I'd rather be who she dabbles with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:30 AM
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People live sheltered lives. Guys who don't know better imagine said women don't fuck dudes that aren't smart and responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:10 PM
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Rich people fuck down, they don't generally date down
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:09 PM
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Yeah but that's cause allot of nba guys are street, I would say they have money and fame but not really status as much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:06 PM
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They do fuck downward
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:05 PM
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I mean you have to separate dating and fucking though, I assume they still would fuck a good looking dude, and also wouldn't leach off him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:04 PM
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I'm not defending it, I'm saying it's not stealing. Giving implies giving. That's it. If I lie to you and say I saved a puppy from drowning and you give me cookies, you still gave me cookies. Feel as if they stole =/= stealing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:35 PM
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He's not taking it, they are giving it. So fraud yeah, lying okay, but it's not stealing. I notice leftists don't differentiate between active and passive. So actively taking, stealing is misconstrued for dramatic effect, to be the same thing as lying to be given something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:29 PM
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That's not really stealing, it's lying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:26 PM
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Do you know what stealing is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:28 PM
2

I mean there is a trade off in precision. I think it's both true there is an overemphasis on accessibility and informality but it's the ideas that are more important. Using simple language can over simplify ideas and that causes it's own unnecessary information loss I think. But yeah I think Trump was a master of simple emotional communication also from my personal experience a lot of buisness people, very smart ones aren't eloquent. Still being just casual if the subject doesn't need you to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:42 PM
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I'm old school
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 03:14 PM
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Being a shoulder to cry on is different but a one off intervention if someone is in danger isn't white knighting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 02:04 PM
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600 dollars yeah, that's nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:41 PM
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Stastically it did, that was why.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:35 PM
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In countries with mandatory service allot of people don't have combat jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:02 AM
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It's also physical, easier recovery from injuries and they invest in training.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:01 AM
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The reason is drunk driving accidents, because Us culture has an issue with binge drinking. Also our drivers examination system is quite easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 10:00 AM
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Debate the ideas not the language. Some of the smartest people I know don't speak proper in conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:59 AM
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Most military jobs aren't combat arms
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:58 AM
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This. This is bizzare. I travel to allot of iffy places and I always make sure to help people. It's just being a good person. We can argue about gender roles and all that but I can't imagine not helping someone especially in mortal danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:53 AM
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It makes you a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:51 AM
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I've risked getting shot. This is my problem you want to be a traditional man, I agree with that but also that means risking things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:50 AM
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You should help people. I'm hardly blue pill but you do it cause its what you do. You don't do it for appreciation. Now don't be her shoulder to cry on, but this is not a way to be. If someone is in danger you really ought to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:49 AM
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She knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 09:40 AM
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She took advantage of him, she should feel bad for using him. He shouldn't care about rejection but he also shouldn't care about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:19 AM
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I agree get rid of welfare, the poor are poor because they lack will
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:14 AM
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He wouldn't be my son, I wouldn't want a relationship with him if he ended up like that tbh I would finance his uni and provide a roof over his head as a kid but I can't say I'd love or want him to talk to me as an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:31 AM
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Taking half the money, a man provides for his woman. By divorcing she isn't his and so is owed nothing and no help
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:08 AM
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If his woman is obident, submissive, loyal and docile then yes, the natural order is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:14 PM
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That's not how language is used. Again you don't refer to a rusted or dented in car as changed. If a person gets facial burns we don't say fire changed their complexion Sure rule 34, some men might love post partum bellies Do men love their wives despite that sure, the same way women love their husbands despite beer bellies I'm not saying that isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:13 PM
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Oh then you're just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:28 PM
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I mean technically but change is usually used for something more neutral I believe the term you mean is damage to her aesthetics
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:18 PM
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Many are indeed religious but in a more social and traditional way rather than it being personally spiritual, also many do believe. There are Muslims who believe and drink and gamble, JFK would pray before bed and also did uncatholic things and I know many catholics who do believe and are similar People aren't that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:04 PM
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Actually that's kind of true if you look at history. Mail order brides were common in the old west, and marriages often were about cementing estates
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:00 PM
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Both can be true. They can be gold diggers but also great full and more likely to be faithful
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:59 PM
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It's more you can get a better quality one and to some extent its probably true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:58 PM
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He's not a troll, in pua we'd joke about guys who'd go, why don't you just say hello. He's a say hello guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:56 PM
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If you zoom out far enough humans and mushrooms are similar
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 02:12 PM
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I mean I'm not that trad. I wouldn't want a massive family and I'm not religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:28 PM
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Lmao "change"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:05 PM
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If she is submissive, obident, loyal and docile by choice then no it's not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:05 PM
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Child raising isn't work though it's a woman's biological purpose Men get stiffed way more, giving half your money to a woman who left you isn't comparable to a woman mothering her own child
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:01 PM
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I think all people have assigned values How else do you measure people We are all objects, and all interactions are transactions that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:00 PM
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I mean a vehicle has a better chance of going up in value for rarity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:28 PM
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It's not changes its called sagging, and loose skin If a car is rusted you don't say well that car changed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:50 AM
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You forgot an *, head not hed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:26 AM
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It's not work
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 11:24 AM
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Or maybe they got an early education on harsh reality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:04 AM
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Children are mutually beneficial, as you are both reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:02 AM
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"aesthetic changes" so many arguments in this sub for men having mistresses
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:43 AM
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I never said he was a good guy, just that his advice is correct I've said the violence against women, trafficking allegations if true etc... I don't agree with I wasn't aware he advocates pedophilia or rape? I heavily doubt it but again maybe you've watched his content, I haven't I just know some friends do and his advice seems correct and what most guys knew for ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:40 AM
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So he's doing the right thing, it's good someone is countering feminism and people are listening. Honestly his one stance about not being against violence against women, is both wrong and weird, that's the only part that makes him questionable. He is right about gender roles and his advice helps get people laid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:12 AM
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Lead, make decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:06 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 10:38 PM
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I feel no sympathy for her at all Also how did she find that many dudes who wanted her, I mean damn cops got low standards, doing an orgy around smeagols sister
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 10:35 PM
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I don't value equality I'm a moral nihilist I know my personality if I was a woman I'd definitely be pissed off and my personality would be so ill suited for any remotely female role, I'd end up one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:57 PM
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I had a near death experience and tbh one of the things I realised I don't really care that much about is that shrugs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:30 PM
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We disagree there. Happiness isn't the only thing and isn't even the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:11 PM
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Taking working mens tax money and having quotas for female workers and demanding equal pay for not equal work (men are more likely to work over time, get hazard pay) in many states have to pay for children that are not there's if their married wife has an affair, get lighter sentences in court and are favored in divorce and family courts All the while saying we want to be treated the same and being hypersensitive canceling people for having opinions you don't like. No feminism stacks the deck ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:10 PM
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If I was a woman I'd be a feminist, or at least want unfairness to win in my favor I will never blame a person who acts in their own self interest It's fools who don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:03 PM
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I don't even watch his content, I just know about it from other people mentioning it, all that advice is already out there he is just monetizing existing information
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:00 PM
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Most people are failures imo and that is simply nature Unachievable for most
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:59 PM
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So what it's at odds with women. The point is to optimize from the man's side. If its advice for men. It works and it works better for men than advice that is "fair".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:58 PM
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Yeah that type of man no one wants to be Yes let me be a therapist going male feminist sounds wonderful He's not looking for a female audience. Men want somethings that are for men. Not everything is supposed to be inclusive. Yes some, most people will be losers again it's not about inclusivity. Some things aren't for everyone and the fact it's not achievable by all makes it valuable. Human beings are not all equal. Sorry. The point of winning is that there are also losers. Personally I think hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:52 PM
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If he offers men maximum gain isn't he good for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:38 PM
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It's a wife's job
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:18 PM
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That's good enough, if the wife puts up with it and doesn't cheat herself why should I care if she's not perfectly happy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:12 PM
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I'd want her to be willing to yes, I'd probably hire a maid and can afford it but I'd want someone willing to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:57 PM
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No a mistress not polygamy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:55 PM
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I'd rather not do wifey work or raise a son who sees that as a model. I don't take it as an insult that feminist don't approve. I have no desire to be "progressive". The husband is supposed to lead, the wife follows, and husband and wife are different jobs with different roles. So no I don't want a partner, I want a wife if I marry and I want her to do wife things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:32 PM
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He might but its not his dream. She might get some regular upper middle class lawyer and they have a passionless pragmatic marriage. Personally I want to enjoy my life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:15 PM
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Honestly I think women being loyal and men having mistresses makes the most sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:13 PM
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In some states men can have to pay child support for children that are found out not be theirs As well as wasting money supporting a woman through what is a parasitic pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:11 PM
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It's such a grave insult that even with paternity tests it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:10 PM
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I'm in my 30s and still want to fuck around Yeah I work so I can fuck around (among other things). Most dudes in their 30s want to fuck around with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 03:52 PM
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What incentive do I have to make it, if not to fuck around? No guy wants to make it so he can get advice for his strong female lawyer wife. That's not a man's drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 03:45 PM
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So here is the problem with this said younger girls will be fucking chads too So why would I ltr one Personally I think if you make it well enough in your 30s you should looks max and do cool shit and hide the fact you made bank more or less. Basically just invest in being chad, and hide the provider ability. That's the smart shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 03:42 PM
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A guy whose made it wants a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 03:36 PM
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Why men need a mistress
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:28 PM
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Agreed nobody knows what if, it's a fun game to imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 11:31 AM
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When we say motivated the reason for the drive they don't have to know why Women don't prefer strong or tall men because they have some well thought out reason You don't think about dehydration and ph balance when you're thirsty An evolutionary selected drive is simply a compulsion that happened to work well that's it. So compulsions that benefit the game get selected and ones that don't, don't propagate. So no said selection is due to biology it is not a social construct, hierarchies are innate…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:38 AM
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We have a different idea of what's important in destiny. Like status, money, tradition I'd want my child to be hard, tough, ambitious as whether it's kind, or communicative about its emotions etc... Well that's if anything neutral or slightly negative If my son became a stay at home dad or non traditional man I'd be heart broken beyond belief. So it's more the example we want is someone who focuses on goals, grit not more trivial things like relationships for their own sake. Dads teach skills, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:32 AM
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Women automatically know who is the parent so they need a stronger nurturing drive, whereas as men have a stronger drive to counter parental uncertainty and parasitic raising of another man's offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:29 AM
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Sex really take that away and women only benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:28 AM
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People don't in America the last name thing has no become part of something something patriarchy evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:27 AM
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Pick the father's don't be weirdos, kids get the father's last name
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 04:26 AM
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I don't think it's the most important, I just think relationships are the least important
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:06 PM
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Poly is the worst of both, and poly people are just weird and not sexy Fwb is just normal people, it's not an identity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:51 PM
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Casual sex is winning it FWB isn't the meta but it is the silver medal, that fwb is probably getting some strange and he is doing less work than you Basically who ever gets sex from the same woman with less work, investment and having to pretend to give a fuck is winning the most The husband down the line is the loser who's left holding the bag, the fwb did pretty well and got sex at a lower cost than any later ltrs she has
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:49 PM
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You try, I'm trying I guess well life will tell. Also you really shouldn't need a reason to live, you'll die anyway if you just wait long enough. Life is how we either do something important or waste time till we die
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:57 PM
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They will fight for the few men who want to sire offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 12:48 PM
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Really? It's pretty self explanatory
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:58 AM
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Yes, the mental energy I did to not get a hard on while a woman's small hands are on my inner upper thighs I had not practiced since back in high school
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:57 AM
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I don't want my woman being touched by a man in a sensual environment. It's close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:44 AM
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I've had massages
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:43 AM
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Eh Here is the difference massage places have waterfalls, it has a sensual atmosphere, no one goes to get a mammogram because they miss the feeling of touch
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:43 AM
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No they'd rather you not fuck another dude. It's not the leaving part, it's you know the fucking part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:41 AM
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Lmao I have a buddy who used to give massages, good looking dude, although knowing him I doubt he was a good massuese, gay men would tip him very well, women also but less so
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:38 AM
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Good for you. I'm a conservative dude but honestly we only live once. This is why I'm skeptical of ltrs BTW. I think it's like winning a slot machine, plenty of people play, most lose, some lose a little, some lose a lot and very very few win big. Just be careful, running of with strangers can end up bad (although I actually know a few happy couples that started like that)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:15 AM
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The sensually rubbing lotion part
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:09 AM
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I'm gonna be honest massages are sensual. You're not fucking but there is an element, so no I wouldn't want a gf to get a massage from a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:08 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:07 AM
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Having children for men who want babies Women's future in this hypothetical world Or rather competing for that as fewer men prioritise having a family and women have a strong urge to be mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:20 AM
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That's just reality, we have children as a selfish act, it's called biology
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:19 AM
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Nen finish maturing later and age at a slower rate. It is based on his appearance ages. I got lucky by yeah friends of mine allot look like dog shit right now in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:20 PM
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Reproduction is a selfish act. We care for children because they have our genes and our extensions of ourselves. There is no aluturism to it, nor should there be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:28 AM
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Nope, no woman has provided significant help to me. I have had male friends and mentors, besides spreading her legs (which really is as much as women pretend to, the only thing of consequence most will do for a man, providing sex, children and giving birth), was once driving some luggage for me and letting me crash in an apartment her father paid for, and eat food her father had bought. That's it. Edit Sorry some have cooked me food, so that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:27 AM
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Patriarchy is what allows civilization, even more basic it is what has allowed human survival
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:34 AM
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Wtf would I want to contribute in a society that doesn't let or have a hierarchy or power structure, capitalism and one that makes me rasie another man's offspring What is my reward? The only sensible thing would be to leech of said society or hope it gets destabilised and turns back into patriarchy or at least capitalism. You would always have men naturally think like I do, and you would have to deal with innate female submissiveness, such a society would either fall to conquest or to when an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:31 AM
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It's called human nature The patriarchy is just the natural order
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 10:27 AM
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Oh you married one, yeah that kind of makes the always I kind leave option not available
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:30 AM
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I find just not yielding, not apologising, taking the lead, being ready to leave and making sure she knows you have options I am by nature a stubborn, unyielding sort of person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:57 AM
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That is why if you want a kick ass life toxic masculinity is the way to go!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:51 AM
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Eventually with enough deep fakes, people will no longer take videos as evidence (without forensic analysis but dudes that level won't get laid mostly) So all the actual cam girls with only fans could say that's not really me, in the end instead of being an enemy of female promiscuity it will be it's ally, all former cam girls and performer can claim it wasn't really them getting fucked on camera
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:48 AM
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So back to the old days of the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:46 AM
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I still don't give a fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:44 AM
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Fuck that would ruin that dudes life. Yeah honestly I can see this happening especially high school kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:43 AM
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Depends what you mean by good personality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:37 AM
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Another thing that can happen is also They miss their community and when said guy goes back to America he gains weight, becomes more boring because American culture can be very inactive. So I think yeah wandering eye, but said guy also kind of can revert back to, his old lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:35 AM
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All expats are strange, imho, even the, successful on the, surface all their shit together ones. Generally if you move to another country and its not poverty, war, or purely economic, if you move to a more devolping country or stay there a long time you are some sort of weirdo Sometimes really cool and weird in an awesome way, sometimes autistic and I've always seen the two overlap. Part of me wants to say give it a go passport bros, some will find happiness but like any rush to a place due to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:32 AM
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You're both old. I joke
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:28 AM
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My two cents. If you go to a country looking for a wife I doubt it will work. If that's the only reason that you are there. Better to be somewhere for no reason. If you go out of a general curiosity, job etc... You love surfing, exchange rate works in your favor. Then you might meet someone who authentically likes you. Same if you go someone cause you love their culture weaboos, slavaboos, back to the motherland african americans, allot of those people end up disappointed It's kind of similar to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:24 AM
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Same club
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:37 AM
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This. All women I've meet deep down want a protector and masculine man. Allot of those masculine women if they see you know what's really down there deep inside, will be submissive with you and are sweeties deep down who you can also do more fun stuff with when you hang out. Also they are often fit and have high libidos. Think of their tomboyishness more like a type of playfullness more than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:35 AM
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I mean guys joke about guys who like fat chicks too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:33 AM
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Artsy girls
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:31 AM
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Often they are and are more fun, but what it also means is I've found they dug my more "toxically" masculine traits more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:31 AM
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Most tom boys if they like you and you aren't a ¶@§§¥ will be submissive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:29 AM
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Can I have none intimate sex, just fuck and do ons etc... Then that's perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:27 AM
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I still feel it. I definitely feel less of a desire for commitment, and really just want sex as far as romantic interaction, but a man hitting on a woman just disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 12:03 AM
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Men who want babies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:34 AM
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Honestly something like mma wouldn't be bad at all, especially if you can find a chill that's chill and social, it'll build your confidence Find something where you have to interact with people, and that is comfortable enough you will interact. Could be mma, maybe you join a club, and start talking to people. That's the best way, it's gonna hurt at first but nothing bad will happen and eventually you'll get better at it.p If it has a competitive angle even better. You could join a local boxing c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:43 AM
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Somewhat dodgy bar in tropical location
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:39 AM
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That's why it's banned in group, same way as unprovoked murder, in group theft and so on. Many taboos serve evolutionary functions for the group, although individual evolutionary strategies can also be parasitic to the group So saying X is an individual fantasy isn't counter to also its something where people instinctually seek retaliation or react negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:47 PM
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Agreed. Self hating slavic girls are a red flag. I'm saying he could get a liberal odd ball though In the states they are picky on weirder stuff. When a slavic girl likes you it's usually for stuff you wanna be liked about. Besides fellow Americans, and also I'd say Latin Americans, slavs might be one of the easier cultures to get along with, not perfect as you all can be gossipy drunks with odd pickled veg. Also the Irish are pretty cool
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:05 PM
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Not if you've been there We're allot better Sort of
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:30 PM
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Women weren't not equal due to society but due to being generally weaker, more fragile and less able to handle pressure and martial duties It wasn't society holding women back why you saw this general trend but the natural order So it wasn't women were second class but women were women Actually it was due to Spartan inheritance law being matrilineal, but again you'd have to read history to know that so...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:12 PM
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Voluntary and enthusiastic are not the same Economic and social pressure pairing are natural and I think that would solve our problems as a society In general we have an issue of removed negative selective pressure for men and women One reason I think we need to remove the welfare state and essentially make it so it becomes survival of the fittest With no negative pressure essentially you have a sort of runaway effect Basically the welfare state essentially subsidises reproduction of the lowest …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:04 PM
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Moral initiation arguments are pretty flimsy. My moral intuition has always been might makes right and an eye for an eye. No this modern equality is like most social changes largely a result of other non moral forces, like economic requirements for a larger work force including women Slavery didn't really end cause slavery bad it ended as a result of it no longer being in economic nessecity in many places It's why you probably don't care about modern slavery or slave like label in Africa and SE …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:58 PM
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Women weren't at the bottom of the hierarchy Yes they did have legal rights, usually less than men, sometimes different Spartan women held more economic power than Spartan men Medieval and early modern European history as quite a few female monarchs In ancient Egypt women had more legal rights than in modern Egypt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:54 PM
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It's more men are letting women due to collective softness and feminine values
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:50 PM
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Why? Equality first of all is a lie, I'd rather have a society built on competition where the losers don't gain
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:49 PM
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Competition isn't about morality Make a better argument other than it would be mean
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:48 PM
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I'm saying they tend to get a bump down from what rich white guys would get So can be some other way Maybe she is less educated or went to a less elite school, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:00 PM
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Be yourself Treat women like people Is just politically correct non advice Most women who say it aren't even thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:30 PM
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I don't go down. It's just a preference. I think whether you go down or not is overblown. Like in some cultures going down on a woman is a huge taboo. Going down, fingering, dicking whatever works for the couple is important. Yes that was maybe my favorite Ben Shapiro moment, imagine taking sex advice from a guy who finds the idea of women orgasming absolutely infallible. Don't worry honey orgasms don't exist I'll put that in my book!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:52 PM
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It's a dick based insult usually. Women resort to that once they can't think of anything else. I once knew a girl who said this insult to a dude, also said he probably had a small dick, he literally took out his dick, it was huge (she was telling the story) and she still called it tiny piss him off.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:37 PM
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That's not the point of the insult. If a woman uses that ad hominem attack saying you've finger blasted isn't what they mean. It's an attack on manhood, not on your actually skill or generousity as a lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:26 PM
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Let's be honest when you make a woman come the old fashioned way it feels good. It's like the difference between hitting a home run and a line drive. Sure a line drive is as much of a run but it doesn't feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:24 PM
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Haha MENA shit tests are next level
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 01:00 PM
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Depends where, I'd say less picky than in the states but having an autistic personality hmmm he could find some "i hate slavic men they are loud and drunk" kind of girl Sadly I am loud and like to drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:58 PM
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Africa, they will think you are a wealthy Chinese businessman. South America actually has allot of Asians, and in some countries Asians are considered upper class i.e. Peru
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:56 PM
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Also new yorkers just fuck more
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:52 PM
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Japan has its own issues. Allot of Japanese men aren't very social and allot of women have a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:51 PM
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Euros don't consider england Europe. Europe generally means western Europe minus the UK, socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:49 PM
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Yeah they don't. Americans and euros are pretty different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:48 PM
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I'll agree kind of. Like a rich black guy if he dates a white chick she generally has something like she's a single mom or in some way isn't what he'd get as the same tier if he was a white guy. Even when you thugmaxx it's harder to get your pick of the litter. However for ons, it's easier to stack up a body count or get a girl who wants to cheat etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:44 PM
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Women who are 9s and 10s don't need their partner to prove they are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:43 PM
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Indian is the hardest. So many negative stereotypes and also allot of Indian guys aren't socialised very well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:42 PM
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Asian and austistic, yeah that's hard mode. To be a successive asian dude you have to pretty much be counter to so many stereotypes. Black women and Asian men have it the hardest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:40 PM
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I'd definitely be considered an angry raging bitch. One of the most amazing girls I'd ever been with had a personality like mine and people definitely judged her for it. Never met another person who was easier to get along with for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 12:06 PM
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Same height. I'm an intense person so I have that going for me. Honestly then lift, the other big thing is at least filling out your sleeves Ll surgery negatively impacts physical performance and just takes to long
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:41 AM
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Respect is one. Like people naturally give you more respect. Getting flirted with in bars. Never would've have happened let alone laid. Just basically being treated like a person. If you're an ugly dude I don't think people get how life you're often treated like society is a party and you're invite might be revoked. That went away. Not being condescended to. Getting to date cool women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:52 AM
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Life doesn't have rules No personality alone probably isn't enough
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 11:36 AM
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That's odd, you can't fire someone who is paying you Doctors really are full of themselvs I guess I'm just special, also she wasn't particularly hot so maybe I just made her feel nice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 02:04 AM
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I mean that's not fired That didn't happen to me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:23 AM
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Fired?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:06 AM
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That reply doesn't even make sense You want to be the leader That must mean you have no self respect Leftist's insults are weird
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:37 AM
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Here is what it is, more billionaire women aren't traditionally attractive Zuckerberg got made fun of for his beach photos
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:28 AM
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I hear Kim Kardishan is quite rich and has her own businesses, she's not super well known so you might not have heard of her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:15 AM
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Men don't care about being "objectified" it's that simple. Oh no the women fucking me doesn't view me as a person. Honestly men just think about people differently. So different I think this don't objectify me thing makes little sense to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:13 AM
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Don't hit on sexy women, understood Ironically I once did flirt with a doctor and she was flattered
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:10 AM
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I've also known a few dudes whose lives were ruined this way actually
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:09 AM
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Most expats I know it happened almost by accident. It's almost never the person who goes I'm moving because X person won the election, or I'm moving because I hate x women. You either have an innate restlessness, or it's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:08 AM
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I mean ideally I think the world would push but not legally require traditional gender roles within reason. Or just not push for non traditional ones. Basically like the 80s. I don't have vitriol for non traditional women, they are great for casual relationships, very fun and serve a purpose. Marrying one would be an stupid idea. But they fuck and don't cost you money and make pleasant conversation. I think you over estimate how traditionally I am though I'm not religious and don't even care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:11 PM
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Even when ugly This is why I got cosmetic surgery and did steroids, it's amazing when you've experienced both sides of the coin. Honestly that made me realise how women really are. So non ugly people it's okay getting submissive women, don't answer I already know Sympathy is dumb it doesn't fix your problems, I, think we agree there, just indifference would be fair. These men found a solution to their problem like I did. Does an ugly woman want to be treated like a queen? The answer I have is I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:05 PM
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Because they are hot, college aged women are hot, that is why. It is not an intellectual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:45 PM
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The most beautiful women I ever saw was in Africa. Just explaining why
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:44 PM
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Sociopathic? No it's just mildly selfish and it's not about worth it's simply this gets my dick harder than this I'm in 30s and I have aged well, so yes college aged women are in my pool. Honestly if I was 60 and could only get 20 something women in se Asia, fuck I would go. Its why rich dudes date younger in the first world. Is that wrong too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:36 PM
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What have I seen proven false? I'm not a redpiller per se but I've seen way more blue pill points proven false. The rest are just opinions and my ideal world is one with traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:34 PM
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I'm saying power imbalance isn't real, what it is a exchange. Said women often leave the man after he gets she gets the green card, and it's often a scam (for example she secretly has a boyfriend back home, and after she leaves the man, sometimes even having his kid she helps the bf). I've spent enough time in third world countries to know that its one party using their looks and sex appeal and the other using their resources. And that's fine, both are assuming risk to get what they want. Also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:31 PM
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They were already excluded from dating pools that they wanted to be in back home. That is why they left. It's not like they were old and wanted some old western woman and she said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:25 PM
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Men want to lead in relationships it's human nature, its, sexual dymorphism, I'm sorry evolution and biology is not to your liking. She needs to look up to you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:22 PM
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Yeah I don't want a green card, marriage but no I don't want an equal "partner" if I was married, husband is the head of the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:21 PM
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It's not coercion it's a mutually beneficial arrangement. I wouldn't want it, but it's no different than a middle class woman marrying a really rich dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:20 PM
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Here is what it is 1 Most blue pillers aren't even conscious of the real purpose of their beliefs. 2 Anything that isn't ugly men need to simp, settle and treat her like a queen is bad. There is no alternative, there is no way to compensate all of this is bad. So don't move to another country, don't wait work and get a younger woman later, don't judge women for anything. You must want to be a male feminist and you must be purely aluturistic to women and not consider your own sexual needs or want…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:19 PM
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Most redpillers were blue pillers, it is the default view in our society so yes most have in some way been on both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:13 PM
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So 8 reported abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:08 PM
2

Scandinavians, particularly the men are incredibly dorky. Also even their feminism irl is less insufferable. They also don't take half your money, stay fit, and even dress more feminine than American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:04 PM
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Also AIDs in Africa, and the whole Taliban thing in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is not exactly a tourist destination.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:01 PM
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Less people find black women hot, the middle east the whole religion thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:00 PM
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So people shouldn't date outside their social class?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:58 PM
2

Power imbalance. God what is the absurdity land. Yes physically abusing women is bad. Hell I'm on board prostitution is bad. But at a certain point it is really you don't want not good looking guys to get laid without simping or reep some rewards. It's wrong to act like an alpha to get hot women because it means being an asshole but women shouldn't be shamed for fucking assholes. It's wrong to date a younger woman who is a consenting adult, okay so no spending years focusing on yourself and care…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:58 PM
1

Honestly I don't care about beautification beyond fitness but cooking matters to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 07:57 AM
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I simply want to be part of the highway of cock and not the husband I am a simple man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:30 AM
2

I thought you wrote at they tall, not are they all haha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:27 AM
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It's mutual, both are using each other in those cases
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:26 AM
2

It's not always true. I've seen it work and I've seen what you described
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:26 AM
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I've seen it and I actually talked to those guys. Yeah it's for them about getting a visa, and fucking a white girl. The women there also objectify the men. When they get back they pretend they never knew them. I heard guys say, yeah she said she'd help me get a visa, and you know it's a lie she told. I'm not saying the dudes aren't trying to take advantage but just like women it's mutual desperation and both are getting something out of it. Gifts, visas, free meals, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:23 AM
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Yep. Listen I think not dating someone based on race is fine but if OP wants to move to have women who aren't going to not date him due to racism, how is that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:21 AM
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Eastern Euro women are kick ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:19 AM
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Yep SE Asian women often low key rule the roost
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:19 AM
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In SE asia being dark is considered unattractive actually, I had a thai girl explain this to me in a bar, when I was with some more white looking friends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:10 AM
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Honestly expats and passport bros aren't very different Like they don't get along but in truth it's more similar than we'd like to think. Expats have more of a sense of adventure, passport bros, tend to be very focused on just dating which is fine. I don't judge although I have met some truly awful ones. Honestly if you move to be more successful dating, awesome. I think to some degree everyone who ends up in a favorable exchange rate so of country men and women enjoy this. Even if its not datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:08 AM
2

I've known tall passport bros
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:04 AM
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Here is the thing changing countries also often means more success with expat woman also from first world countries Allot of non "trad" people find the recent political correctness insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 03:01 AM
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Most are so entrenched with this belief they don't notice it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:42 AM
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I've meet guys who were total ¶@§§¥ies and had a ton of sex. Yeah if you only value masculinity because of sex, then you don't really value being it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:51 AM
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So I run my own project and what I've noticed is yeah, most men are submissive. Most men take orders quite well. Honestly before starting a business and leading others I did not realize how submissive men really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:46 AM
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Nose job and a few facial implants. Honestly if you have money, I'd say it makes way more sense then getting a fancy car. People treat you different, quality of life is so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:12 AM
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Practice your approaches, while practicing you will get rejected, two birds with one rock my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 05:05 AM
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Have gotten cosmetic surgery, is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 05:05 AM
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It's called self interest It is not optimal for a man to allow his woman maximal self interest here and visa verse So yes I would want a marriage where I cheat and she doesn't precisely because it isn't fair and is to my benefit Now a women when found out as in nature the man should be allowed to abondon those kids and her reputation should be ruined, she should get no alimony or child support If a man cheats well he laughs shouldn't get child support or palimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:32 AM
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Yep the left in general believes in human perfectability. It is such an assumption most are not aware of it, and will often reply with Duh society changes us And will sometimes deny believing it while stating it is their belief Human beings are complex, we're not like other animals! Something to that effect Or You can't tell what human instinct is, there are soooo many exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:31 AM
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People are awful but I'm a man and me being awful is someone else's problem Not a progressive, am against hitting women, am against prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 03:26 AM
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Eh, I'm not kinky and I've had hook ups who were kinkier than me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:56 AM
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Well loving English people is pretty rare too. I think most people who dislike hookups don't really really dislike hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 02:17 AM
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I mean there could be a selection bias because I've met a good number
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:55 AM
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What's your definition of rare, I've noticed women put a lower threshold for rare as in above average but not unlikely to encounter a few times in life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:52 AM
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I don't claim it's deep, it's just true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:42 AM
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Great response. Hedonism and love are two sides of the same coin. Life is cheap and love is nothing more than a very addictive chemical reaction. That woman you're devoting your life to, doesn't actual matter, she's a random person you happen to meet and get marginally along well with. If you're mediocre with nothing better to do, then sure do that but understand it isn't something great or beautiful it's something unimportant to pass the time between now and death when both of your unimportant …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:35 AM
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Currently the president of Russia and America are in their late 70s I don't care about people that much, either relationships or "society", most humans are of low value. The fixation on making the world a better place for all humans is childish imho as is hedonism. Two sides of the same coin I could say why do humans matter if they all die anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:30 AM
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My "heart" never sought love. I almost never discuss love. I also don't seek peace of consolation. Most people are unimportant, I would even say most human life is, and love may feel good for these people but if you have some talent devoting yourself to it is a waste. I would say love is illogical and most people who put it so center are those who have become dependant on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:25 AM
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We're very different. Love is extremely unimportant and all we have is this life, the only prizes are here imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:53 PM
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Nope Relationships are the consolation prize of life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:41 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:37 PM
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Having a relationship be the focus of your life is a waste of time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:36 PM
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Some women want casual sex, some men want casual sex, pua makes you better at being a man women will choose for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:53 AM
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Pua and trp aren't the same. I was never into trp. PUA didn't make value judgements, it didn't hate women. It was just here is how to get laid. PUA was just about how can I go out, go to a bar, have a fun time, get a ons, get a date, get a number. The spirit of it was about getting laid and having fun. It wasn't sitting in your room, hating women, seething. Pua actually died out online around 2013 and trp became popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 07:00 AM
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It's the blue hair on the inside
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:41 AM
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The concept of toxic is silly, there are people that are wrong for you, there are people good for short and medium term fun. Do you people want to live a life bleached of experience. Have a fling with an attractive toxic chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:38 AM
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Bluepill overdose
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:23 AM
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Or they don't settle down and get dat high n count
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:21 AM
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Not ashamed just like when you eat two hot dogs and cheap soda. Or do anything gross. Also it's not "toxic masculinity" eye roll. Yes I could be wearing a dress, crying and being told competition is bad, and all the things I love about being a dude are evil, and my son could be free to be soft and useless Thanks feminism! I'm not talking about rape, when I say casual sex I mean consensual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:17 AM
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See I don't see pua as exploitative or onlyfans People want porn and sex Some guys can't get laid and pay for OF It's no more exploitative than video gaming or anything other simulation/parasocial service which is simply giving a service
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:14 AM
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Pick up artistry gets allot of its techniques from sales and yeah there are techniques that work on most people that's why things like public speaking and public relations exist. PUA is happy women are going out and looking to get laid. If there were just trad women pua couldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:54 PM
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That's not exploitation either it's delivering a desired product
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:47 PM
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No I'm talking about consensual sex you regret after Like when you fuck a non traditionally attractive girl and sober up and just shake your head I wasn't exploited by said fat girl although I do regret it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:38 PM
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Yeah it usually isn't Sorry not sad Regret doesn't equal exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:28 PM
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How sad you consider casual sex exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:14 PM
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I don't care enough to hate him. I don't like the hypocrisy they have, of you think nobody owes anyone anything then don't think people owe you something. You know. Be consistent. I can respect but disagree if someone is consistent. Yeah, the middle class left hates what working class people are, and are suprised that they don't and allot of minorities and working don't want to be middle class white people who eat slightly different foods and have an accent. That the differences in culture aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:11 PM
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Yep being non white makes you more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:02 PM
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Sometimes people just wanna fuck and not more. Women like some guys just for sex, and pick up is becoming the guy they want just for sex. If you believe women don't use men for sex as well, you're wrong and allot of those women are empowered and successful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:56 PM
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If you mean conservatives believe are more likely to acknowledge men and women are intrinsically different due to nature and tend to do well with different roles, then yes. I'm saying that isn't sexism imo and the modern definition requires one deny reality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:54 PM
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That late 2010s, the left starting going after men who just wanted casual sex more. Wanting to get laid and doing pick up became bad. So less lefty people got into the hobby. Like trad wife stuff wasn't a part of it, what women should do wasn't a part of it, hell career women were great for pick up. It wasn't about blaming women it was about improving your own technique. Also back then noticing men and women are different wasn't sexist, and you have to have some understanding of women, women's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:48 PM
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I didn't say scholar. Also you said far more progressive than the most progressive. Also not everyone man or woman considers progressivism in and of itself positive. Its more traditional western values and traditional eastern values are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:39 PM
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I mean who is defining sexism? Is believing men and woman are naturally different sexist? I think women should be allowed to do whatever they want. However do I think men tend to be better at certain things, yeah. Would I want my wife to be traditional yes. Conservatives are "sexist" because the left considers their beliefs "sexist" according to their definition. I would say the left's scorn for traditional feminity is sexist, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:36 PM
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PUA is an applied skill. How do I get laid more. Its not blaming women, its not a pro or anti feminist movement, it is simply how do I pick up attractive women more effectively. Making a woman feel like a slut for example means often she won't show you her slutty side, so that's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:34 PM
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I know liberal men who are secretly Andrew Tate fans, they just say it in select company. I'm conservative and am not a big fan of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:32 PM
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Don't be a simp was always a part of it. Is that political, is a man having self respect and not being a beta contingent on his politics. I don't think Che was a simp, JFK not a simp. First I'm conservative and don't consider conservative an insult. But you can have balls and like high taxes or whatever. Being assertive if you're a man is important no matter if you believe in the wage gap. It was apolitical. It was simply about what is an efficent and effective way to pull attractive women. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:27 PM
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Men don't fear commitment they don't like it. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:22 PM
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And the level of progressivism of allot of white western men is weird. That part is also a turn off. Also not true. I know mid Eastern secular people, known indian men who I am a little to the right on. I'm pretty socially conservative though, men take their wives last name, men shouldn't cry, a wife should cook and so on. I'm not conservative by their standards but I'm not the most liberal. That is a bit of hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:15 PM
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Honestly I've had luck with hippy girls, lefty girls too. Most hate to admit it but they like conservative men. They find it interesting from my own experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:14 PM
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I've noticed successful non white women are often more okay with conservatism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:42 PM
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I will say women from Eastern Europe are not the stereotype but are easier to deal with. I will say eastern euros, non white women in general, basically any woman from a group who isn't gonna call their man "partner" . American women may be the worst because of the denail of male and female differences but also still having it. Western women: I want a modern progressive man I don't want to fuck a modern progressive man Don't judge me also don't notice a trend, I'm an individual. Eastern European…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:37 PM
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My friends growing up were pieces of shit and I hung around them to get a break. Literally in my teens I'd chill with one dude who had a drug addicted mother, did small amounts of crack occasionally, to get away from my folks. He tried to stab his neighbour once cause he blacked out. Those were the people I was with to relax. Even though my father ironically was educated, and I suppose my mother too. Absolutely lunatics though. I learned my social skills from them which ironically ended up helpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:43 PM
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Yes, no game of charisma a lot are boring good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:40 PM
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Don't follow bluepill advice, it's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:39 PM
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Haha actually the same, well they both were. My mother was but she was very small and her anger didn't make funny stories the same way. She used to egg on my old man and me to fight each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:15 PM
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The way I see it is drama is for women what adventure is for men. I like going dangerous places and doing dangerous things, sport. That's how men can get their adrenaline.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:14 PM
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The way I see it is drama is for women what adventure is for men. I like going dangerous and places and doing dangerous things, sport. That's how men can their adrenaline.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:13 PM
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Also an east coast originally dude who grew up with an ethnic dad. Yeah, the amount of destroyed furniture. A old school TV got punched through once, and multiple glass frames. I remember one day when I was older and some argument with my old man and I had put my hand through a small picture frame, it was bloody and he had threatened me with a bat and afterward we just looked at each other like wtf are we doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:54 PM
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I actually had a woman literally explain this to me Not like being abused but needing to see their man jealous and angry
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:51 PM
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This doesn't work if you're an actual angry person because when you get angry it's not a choice. I said in another friend I've noticed lots of women I've been with want to see me explode. They will try to incite jealously or poke at something I don't want to talk about. They've gotten me to get in fights with other guys. So yeah maybe this is for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:45 PM
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It never ends dear god. The thing is I always feel bad after, when I regain my composure. My parents were angry people, and when I'm with a girl I just don't want to be in angry mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:41 PM
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Thank you, yeah I think most PEDs aren't, I've done some orals, and test etc... I mean they are so common now too. Yeah test is IM
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:17 PM
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Yeah I don't back down but I just don't want to be manipulated into starting a fight either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:06 PM
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Swingers weird me out, am vanilla can confirm. All I'm saying about narcotics and partners is sure they can find one but don't find me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 07:04 PM
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It's had getting laid doing 25 to life, so no thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:08 AM
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I only met one woman who was put off by such a thing but I think she was autistic a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:40 AM
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Eh I am an angry person and women when they see it once, often try to bring it out in me again. It's not hard to make me lose my shit at another dude, especially if I'm drunk. To the point I'm fairly certain I will get a stroke or heart attack one day from it. Women you wouldn't expect like seeing that, and find it sexy. I've so many times had women obsessed with making me jealous after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:36 AM
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The catch is they want someone who isn't insecure but they also often want someone who can be jealous. So let's say you aren't insecure, they will poke you many of them on and on if they see you aren't outwardly jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 09:33 AM
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Good luck not raising someone else's kid? Have we entered absurdity so deeply its not considered baseline to not want to waste your resources on another dude's offspring?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 08:18 AM
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No bigger turn off than meanness to animals I'll take a former prostitute over animal abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:56 AM
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Ambitious, fun, willing to take risks, good sense of humor, strength, being a sweetie deep down, feisty
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:55 AM
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Former addicts tend to have a certain personality I mean I've pinned test, does that make me an IV drug user? Technically but not really, injecting hard drugs is sort of its own beast. I think omitting an orgy is less bad, I think IV heroine use is a bigger deal, that's up there more with I had a kid but gave it up for adoption, I tried meth once is more orgry territory Anyway I sort of accept people will do what they will do and never trust anyone that much, what a girl tells you what she's don…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:24 AM
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People tend to volunteer confessions to me. I have the very opposite problem. I have to say I do not want to know this. It has made my view of human nature very realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:17 AM
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If you're injecting dope it's a big deal, that's when you've left the road of recreation and are heading towards old fashioned will probably eventually OD addiction Snorting it, I mean I myself am not a drug person but having lived in some pretty ghetto areas and known rich kids and art students at various times I can say more people have abused opioids than you'd guess That's a line for me though, opoid usuage however I can generally tell who is a drug person and who isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:15 AM
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Here is my view. If you require someone else to disclose their past you should but if you don't, and they don't it's fine. Personally I assume Polly Perkins had a train run on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:10 AM
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Yeah. I mean I have a hard time believing it tbh. I think it's probably something else. Honestly if I had to wager a guess I think you're just bored with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:22 AM
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That's a bit weird
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:01 AM
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I've found women who seem dominant are usually looking for someone not intimated and they are submissive with him. And that makes you feel sort of cool. Maybe you don't want to be submissive to her, but maybe like her attitude more generally. Maybe you're confusing the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:06 AM
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I grew up with lots of male friends. I'm a dominant guy and love a more Tom boyish woman. If they like you they are feminine around you and when they try to guy stuff it's just cute cause even when they are good at it looks sort of feminine hard to explain. I also don't have allot of interests and find girly girls boring. When a strong woman melts and lets you lead, it feels good. When she's a boss bitch but a little sweetie with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:33 PM
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Because men understand you can't let the weakest links in the chain be your focus
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:25 PM
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I think you mistake wanting a healthy strong society with taking care of the weak. Women have blind empathy with often no larger picture beyond I feel bad for X. They don't lead protect or provide, I will say they nurture and sympathize, part of the reason they vote democrat and raise taxes and waste money on social spending Oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:21 PM
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Some states are unavoidable states of misery. Others are ones that could have been fixed. So when I know a woman who wish she had kids I feel bad. A severely schizophrenic homeless person I just hope they don't get near me. Tragedy in fiction for example relies on some level of relatablity. So someone who is so far removed from a functional normal for better or worse doesn't elicit sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:20 PM
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I'd rather have my son do two years in juvie than live his whole life a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:48 PM
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The problem is a man doesn't learn how to become a man. A woman cannot do this, and her male friends are often effete. And they do not have authority to set the tone of the household. So yes they might not be criminals, but if they are raised by a well to do single mother and even worse imo don't have any rough element to their upbringing, they will be soft, they will never be actual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:48 PM
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Honestly they probably become extremely unfuckable. The ones raised by lawyers. Born to beta bux. Definitely worse than the ones raised in working class environments. I had a mother who was single for a while and the only thing that saved me was I didn't hang out with rich kids. I wasn't molded by a woman and political correctness at the same time. I hung out with working class kids and they taught me how to actually talk to women, how to deal with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:41 PM
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The downside is no father to guide them. This is the other thing about the child support argument from women I hate. The most important thing about a father is a child has a traditional male to look up to. Not a "male feminist", not a well to do single mother, not just a pay check from the father, a traditional and I will say conservative family is the healthiest gift a child can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:38 PM
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Yeah babies and toddlers, changing diapers is for the wife and mother
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:03 PM
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If a woman doesn't get an abortion the man shouldn't have to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:03 PM
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Mothers are best when their influence is confined to early life, not ideologies, mommas boys and male feminists are what happens when women try to intellectual or emotionally shape men too much. Mothers take care of toddlers, fathers teach boys how to be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:28 PM
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It's about when does life start. Personally I think it does start at conception but I'm also pro death penalty and anti welfare so I don't give a damn. I also do think if women have the right to choose it means men shouldn't have to pay child support or if they are married the husband should have to agree as well. So when that happens I'll care allot more about "reproductive rights". Unwed mothers should have free abortions imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:24 PM
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Good don't burden a man with some other guys sperm deposit. Yeah some other guys kid is a parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:23 PM
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Because its a highly dysfunctional upbringing without a traditional male influence. Children need a traditional family and the more it deviates from that the worse it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:50 PM
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You have not been around many single mothers have you. Most are not the most responsible long term thinking people also as its women who choose whether to take a day after pill, terminate the pregnancy the responsibility sort of falls on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:49 PM
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We act unsure due largely to bad female advice Don't seem agressive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:43 PM
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Hell even if she thought logically about it. Raising another man's kids means you have no self respect. And is genetically so against your self interest as to be an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:36 PM
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In my life I've had three women who wanted to knock them up, one was a, career woman, the other her boyfriend was a friend of mine we looked vaguely similar, and lastly was a woman I literally went on two dates with in a country that gives heavy subsidies So yes I do think it's possible. I sadly out of financial concern declined all three offers. Though to be honest two of them earned more than me at the time. I have had no woman who's seriously wanted to marry me. Honestly that is probably the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:50 AM
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If you are talking about risks Two older parents equals more risk than one older parent So if you're an older man it is in your interest to have a child with a younger woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:37 AM
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Men are more talented in matters that are important tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:14 AM
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Why would you want a woman with some other man's kid to spend the rest of your life with you That's like deciding to get a tape worm If it's not yours genetically, it's a parasite
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:48 AM
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Of course why would anyone ltr a woman who won't even have your kid And let's be honest a woman's body isn't as attractive after she's had a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:33 AM
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I mean its better to be the man that a woman wants to knock her up than the man she thinks would help raise someone else's kid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:32 AM
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Children do need a mother and a father if they don't sons either end up criminals or weird effete feminist men, both aren't what make a strong society. Society needs traditional men and traditional families however this will be good for the DNC, so reddit will like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:30 AM
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Ok but if you're in good shape you can still pull it off pretty easy, personally those consequences are more than worth a younger woman. If you're in you're 40s pulling a woman in her 30s or even very late 20s isn't hard. So either have kids young or if you haven't find a younger woman if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:01 AM
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We're talking about when all involved are 18 and up adults
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:44 AM
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Yes that last one is always the best It's almost like older women are jealous of older men If you date an older woman you will here her complain about older men dating younger women Even if you are a younger man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:42 AM
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I mean it depends. I look younger than I am, so it's not an issue for me. If you're older, in good shape, finding a woman ten even fifteen years younger isn't hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:32 AM
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Yep. Basically if you're an older man who wants kids find a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 01:46 AM
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That's the fun part, when it's gets dangerously close to killing you, the rest is for women and children
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 01:45 AM
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Yes they are just porking, some uggos as well. Men will fuck down, I have, it's easy and you feel kind of cool dismissively fucking an ugly girl
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:21 AM
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Being a man is way more fun tbh, getting into fights, getting piss drunk, enjoying risk and danger, not needing to feel like someone is supportive, or you are loved, or safe Honestly toxic masculinity is fun as shit I'm drunk now and may have mildly trashed an Eastern European hotel room which I'll pay for in the morning
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:18 AM
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I rarely defend women but one thing I've noticed is women just other women based on attractiveness in a way men do not. So being an ugly woman means other women will also treat you as low status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:16 AM
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Also it may be not that older men are more likely to have autistic children but that autistic men are more likely to have children later in life Since one it will take them longer to master social skills, and two if they are more attractive due to resource allocation then again later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:09 AM
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Ofc, women mature earlier, men are more attractive in their early 30s. Now some hurr durr women and men are the same, hurr durr partners will deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:07 AM
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Here is not the place. Most people here are rather extreme. Either LTR or not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:05 AM
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I mean you have to look at a break down, maybe there are more severely mentally ill people etc... I would like to see a break down of those statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:24 PM
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He is right aside from the kids part protected sex and abortion. But yeah women are fucking chad or Tyrone. They have men they think are good for relationships and men who they just want to have sex with who gets the milk for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:34 PM
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Women can easily have casual non commited sex. A woman going her own way is just a woman with a job who fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:32 PM
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I'll address your geography part As a foreigner dating in Africa isn't easier as so many girls who interact with foreigner are prostitutes or scammers If you're white in Africa to have genuine interactions, you'll have to learn the local language, not display too much wealth to the point of frugality and hope your girl isn't pulling a scam Eastern Europe isn't really easier than western Europe thought if you aren't politically correct eastern European can be, easier to deal with, no most aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 09:45 PM
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The problem holding you back from getting a date, is that you want a date. As long as you don't want a date you'll get one, but ask for a date, have the confidence you should get a date, then you'll be stuck in you're apartment and no one will want to date you. If you want a date you'll be dateless, but if you don't want a date then you'll get a date. That's some catch, that Catch-22 Female dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:50 AM
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A girl once tried running dread game on me, so I ended up literally hooking up with other girls, and she did the same And we both got locked in some dread game spiral Like we both were pulling the same tricks on each other. Honestly it worked. I mean sort of if you consider two people spending more time and effort making each other jealous and seeing other people rather than each other to make each other jealous working I'd spend time away and we'd text each other trying to see if the other was …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:41 AM
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I'm here because sometimes I get bored
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:57 AM
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See but it works. That's the thing. You think that but really marketing often matters more than the actual product. Savvy customers are not the majority of customers. A good enough product with better marketing will beat a great product. A manipulative car salesman or cold caller will sell more. Also if you care less about return customers and pua is more concerned with getting new customers so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:32 AM
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What's the conundrum? It's no different than sales, you do what works. Not what the customer says they would prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:13 AM
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I agree, you need to get surgery that doesn't look fake. I'd say jaw implant, chin and lower face lift in general is the way to go. Botox is dumb Honestly if you have money some advice given to me was Never reveal how much or where it comes from if you can. Also lots of rich people hide the fact in the beginning of dating. So I would say get surgery and hide how rich you are. Hit the gym and just have a kick ass life. Also with a good face and body you can rock a shaved head, personally I'd put …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:04 AM
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I do well with women and I've had the same women tell me they don't like what I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:02 AM
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Saddam managed to hold together a country and tackle radical Islamic extremism and keep it from gaining a foot hold in Iraq. Was he an awful ruler morally, yes. Should we have learned from him to better manage our occupation also yes. Someone can be awful and also have correct insights into human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:58 AM
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You are not against this because it doesn't work, you are against it because you believe the lie or aluturism and really want to be a good guy. Your morals wouldn't let you believe any of this no matter how true. That's what it comes down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:56 AM
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That doesn't mean he is wrong factually. He is explaining an technique to deal with women. Here is is right, in that it works, it is not novel, it is old advice mostly. Yes if you want to be nice, go be nice, and only listen to advice from nice people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:53 AM
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How many male feminists get accused of sexual harassment, of domestic abuse. It's almost a meme, lefty man turns out to be pervert.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:45 AM
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Yes but disgusting doesn't make it untrue. This makes me feel really bad about the world isn't an argument against a fact or view of human nature. It's like a religious person who needs to have faith doing everything he can to maintain that belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:43 AM
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I mean it works. Oh no so bad. No different than women using dudes for foodie dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:41 AM
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If he is innocent his views are realistic. They work. Maybe if you're so conditioned my progressivism you hate them. I agree the crimes if true are awful but his views are spot on. Now he isn't saying anything original just stuff men have known about women that allot of progressives pretend aren't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:40 AM
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Ah well that's the narrative. The point still stands, his messages is to build yourself up. I think that's a positive compared to its okay to cry, be like a woman message to men today. Honestly being ambitious, not have altruism and embrace toxic masculinity is one of the best things a man can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:37 AM
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I mean you can pay for good plastic surgery and performance enhancing drugs, so round about you can assuming average height. You can buy all three. Most men just don't, when I got work done the surgeon explained the stigma, this was a guy who actually focused more on men then other guys and almost all the people in the office were women. Outside of entertainment very few men do this and women will dissuade men from getting work done to stroke their egos. Also I think if you have a more tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:50 AM
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It's less fun, it's more work for the same thing. You get less women, said guy early got her when she was younger and tighter with less work as well as other women. Oh boy you get love and having to pay and care for her. Also allot of men me including don't particularly enjoy being nice, add in I'd rather get cancer than take care of children or listen to some women tell me how to live my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:13 AM
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Yes but if you're attractive and have money that's better. A woman who feels no lust but just is with you for your money is like having a knife pointing at your wallet while getting your dick sucked. You get much more power over a woman subconsciously if you have looks to. Don't have to be nearly as generous or pretend to be kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:07 AM
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Honestly it's the 9 to 5 lifestyle. I dont work a regular 9 to 5 and the people I know who don't age way better and yes that includes attractive people in their 40s. As for the jaw thing I do not get why more men don't get lower face lifts and jaw implants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:44 AM
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Brad Pitt is also a heavy smoker
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:39 PM
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The thing is women have less collagen and have to fight gravity more. Saggy boobs etc... A man who stays in shape ages better than a woman who does in the sense he can look less old. Now personally I think fit milfs are incredibly sexy. But if we're saying who has a better chance if they eat right live healthy to have less visible change from 20 to 50 its men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:37 PM
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It's not genetics it's lifestyle. If you ever go to villages in the third world outside of urban areas you see extremely fit old dudes. Working at a desk, in a sitting position, eating processed foods and having management isn't optimal. In general I've noticed people who avoided the 9 to 5 age way way better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:33 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:34 PM
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Really you think most men would equally dislike their girl emotionally loving another man and another man having his dick inside his woman? Come on. This is that men and women are the same nonsense. https://neurosciencenews.com/male-female-infidelity-16730/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 02:54 AM
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Eh. You'd be suprised. I actually kind of agree with OP from personal observation. Men fear physical infedility more, women fear emotional. Did you fuck him vs do you love her Women forgive cheating if it's just physical where for a guy that makes it worse Anyway to pass the bar you need to have critical legal thinking. That doesn't translate into broad critical thinking and tons of thickos have law degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 02:15 AM
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Idk I kind of agree with OP but lawyers are nothing special. I've known some very mediocre people with top notch law degrees. It's less about brilliance than it is about diligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:49 AM
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Both can be true. The lesson here is never let a woman feel secure and always remind her you're better than her. You should cheat and run constant dread game and eventually leave her anyway. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:47 AM
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I do actually believe you're devils advocate I've observed it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 01:45 AM
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Not a huge fan but the point it to become a dominant alpha. Men are what they do. Tate was poor and became rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 12:01 AM
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I'd rather be told I deserve to be dead, than I'm unfuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 07:09 PM
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Yep don't give up. Looks and being interesting/adventurous, cool guy activities are the highest payoff Lowest payoff is being sweet, simping, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:46 PM
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It is. The only reason to marry is lay claim to her womb. This is common sense. How many men want to marry a woman who can't reproduce, very few Why, because they don't want her to carry their seed. If you provide for a woman and protect her, you get to have her for reproduction. That's nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:16 PM
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It doesn't have to be her ideal. Her ideals shouldn't be the man's concern imo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:14 PM
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That's not my department.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:12 PM
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Tall and not good looking sure but not tall and good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:11 PM
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Allot of the time they don't have unprotected sex or the mistress also has her own husband Unpopular opinion I think a man if he cheats it's not as bad as if a woman does. The ideal marriage a man cheats and the woman doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:50 AM
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I mean a fit American. What I have seen though is allot of Americans in Europe do one of two things when hitting on women that are bad 1 self hating American mode 2 waking resume mode Self hating Americans are often short, timid or skinny and timid and maybe my least favourite expat to be stuck in a room with
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:47 AM
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Yep. Arrogance is your friend. Also if you're young you're judged by what you want to do greatly. Make a plan to do reach your goals. What is your ambition, think outside the box how to get there. The difference between a goal and a dream is having a plan. In your 20s it's your ambitions. In you're 30s it's where you're headed, what you're working on. In you're 40s it's where you are. And your 50s plus what you can teach to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:01 AM
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I'll say it again if you can steroids plus plastic surgery is optimal looks maxing. Changed my life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:05 AM
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I don't think lifetime commitment is. If marriage laws didn't exist I'd agree, but they do. Love isn't forever, in fact nothing truly beautiful is, so let me rephrase it. I personally don't think love is worth it, but in the modern world and legal system marriage is definitely not, and in general commitment less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:55 AM
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That sounds like an awful party
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:35 AM
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Raise key word, not sire
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:34 AM
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I don't hate women. I just don't think their love is worth it. Women in casual relationships are wonderful. They are beautiful and full of life, they can be wonderful as mothers. I have had a red pill view my entire adult life. I am not mean towards any women, and I enjoy their company, energy and romance. I just know love is a lie. That simple. It's a ticket not worth the cost of admission. It's like buying a wooden boat, and paying for the maintenance. I am also by nature a loner. Even before …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:23 AM
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When you marry a woman there is an understanding you have laid claim to her womb for the purposes of continuing your line. The rights to her womb is the point of marriage so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:21 AM
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A man generally doesn't expend that much resources on an affair
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:20 AM
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Paternity fraud because it is a mans natural right to only expend resources on his off spring. Personally I think any woman who commits paternity fraud in an ideal world would spend her life in solitary confinement and said child would be deprived any financial assistance and maybe end up in indentured servitude and owe in money the time and money the man spent for the amount of years he thought it was his. Now the man who tricked the other guy, well he's a top g. Don't get married and never tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:18 AM
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I like successful women and I like athletic women. I'm not effete I run my oen buisness project where I lead people many who are on paper more accomplished than I. A strong body is a healthy body and that's sexy. I intrinsically don't trust or like weak people or people who prefer safety to ambition this goes for women as well. When you make a strong woman look at you and treat you like a man, see her vulnerable and cute that's rewarding. It's like having a pet wild animal. The most successful g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:04 AM
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The sexes are in competition. Look around. Feminism vs normality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:00 AM
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I've dated women in their forties and yeah. Honestly women in their 30s I like less. Younger women are just so sweet easy and feminine, the fiesty ones who are like 18 to 23 adorable. 40 somethings have come to terms with their nature even the successful ones want a man. Fit milfs are my other weakness. Women in their thirties are the most insecure, the least embracing of their sexual nature and the most pretending to be a big bad boss lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:58 AM
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Shit older women have all been more okay with my anger issues. I never noticed it but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:55 AM
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Mid 30s, 18 - late 40s I do like 18 to 24 the most and all things being equal would prefer to marry a much younger woman if I were going to but if you click with someone and they appreciate you are smart and athletic, are loyal older is good too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:51 AM
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Yes that's called slave morality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:49 AM
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Yes if traditional men ruled we'd have nuclear families, and women cooking their kids dinner, and healthy families the horror I know!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:45 AM
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Donald glover is an incredibly talented and annoying person He also said all black people have ptsd
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:43 AM
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Aggression is a positive trait. Yes we are less weak due to being less progressive and feminised I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:40 AM
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Well that's good news as a man I guess. At least one thing we win at in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:40 AM
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Yes American men are more masculine, conservatism is a good thing and effeteness in men and timidity is a sign of a broken man From experience/observation if you're an in shape American man, you can clean up in Europe and have an edge on the local competition because many have been ground down by "equality" in allot of western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:36 AM
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Women's are capable of love but their love is more trouble than it's worth. It's something that will end up limiting you, if you're not careful. Getting sex but not love from them creates much less problems. If they discard you, you're lucky. Perhaps men are awful too but that part isn't really my problem so I don't care that much about it. So yes if you want to die next to a lie tier clingy woman, who probably cheated behind your back, cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:31 AM
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Honestly I would say American men are on the whole better, like allot of western European men are effete, and femized I would say ironically European women are in general more feminine. If I had a son I'd want him raised in conservative America but a daughter wouldn't be destroyed by some place with insane values but pretty women like Scandinavia
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:29 AM
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American women compared to euro women are slobs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:27 AM
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Yes a skinny jeans man with a man bun would not do well in detroit. So detroit is I suppose not all bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:27 AM
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I should have added for elderly widows vs widowers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:24 AM
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Not an answer but ask any man who has moved to Europe or other region and if he is American the quality of the women elsewhere is often why he doesn't move back America creates good employees, having worked with euros I will say American workers are much much better but for dating other countries has a better amount of fit capable in shape women with wide amounts of interests. Also age differences are less of a big deal and feminism is not as hard core or vitriolic. Even in the more annoyingly p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:19 AM
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Iirc in very high levels in can have the opposite effects, much like dopamine it's function is misused in common discourse
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:17 AM
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Widows are also less likely to suffer depression and more likely to remarry than widowers. Women the romantic sex, lmao You're very last point I'm less sure about but agree on the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:15 AM
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He's completely right. It's not rage it's realism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:14 AM
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Women have a dual mating strategy Casual Vs Love What this means if a woman has latched on to you she will try to keep you and this doesn't mean acting always in you're interests, it can mean discouraging self improvement, needing to feel "secure" in you're relationship and that same security when reached that comfort means you are now also if you were less sexy in her eyes and more err... reliable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:13 AM
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Honestly it's not a huge deal when someone finds out Apperance effects how we perceive people subconsciously so even when they know they treat you differently Don't tell anyone but if someone finds out no huge deal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:09 AM
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Chin, implant, jaw implant too You also have mid face implants, neck lifts Often if you get rhino you will want a jaw of chin implant to balance it out Male breast reduction, tummy tucks All valid options for men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:07 AM
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Yes being a victim is the worst thing anyone can embrace. If I had children the first thing I would teach them never accept being a victim, let alone embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:00 AM
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Muscles are one of the few things a man can alter without surgery. It's basically saying the main avenue to improve ones physical appearance as a man has little bearing due to a major thing a man cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:55 AM
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I have never in my life met one. At best indifferent. I've noticed freakishly tall girls can be more indifferent to height out of pragmatism. One really short girl I knew said it once but then later said she physically prefers really tall guys. I knew one really short guy who got laid allot but everyone paid him the same compliment "he has so much confidence you don't notice he's short"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:51 AM
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Yes lots of tall good looking guys I'm sure eye roll
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:49 AM
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Yes get plastic surgery and don't mention it. Even beyond extreme cases. Much like steroids holywood understand this, hell most politicians, news casters, etc... Facial implants, nose jobs etc... If you're ugly it can make you average, if you're average it can make you above average This and getting your teeth straightened or whiteneded
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:46 AM
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Being athletic opens more doors in terms of activities as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:56 PM
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Women care about height. Some will say they don't but most of those I've over or heard saying the opposite. Women tell men often to their face what will avoid any sort of social conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:55 PM
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Honestly plastic surgery I say this all the time. If you can afford good natural looking plastic surgery it is by far the best of the limited options a man has.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:52 PM
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The Roman legions essentially promised a plot of land and being able to keep wealth looted depending on the time frame, and seeing combat also meant for the senatorial class a better chance at winning important elections and such motivation for keeping plunder and glory was also common in post roman late antiquity/early medieval as well. Up to and including WWI to prove one's heroism or improve ones social station. Also to honor one's ancestors is very common. Speaking to people who have been to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:47 PM
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Nope. Historically status, money, and prestige if in the higher classes. Humans are innately competitive and violent it is a myth that people would prefer peace to status. Most people would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:44 PM
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Basically any woman who cares about physical attractiveness doesn't want a short man. You can get maintaince sex and a woman who you have to worry about cheating who really likes your personality though!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:43 PM
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Yeah gen Z is angry. I am/was into pua, and I also have a friend who I'm not attracted to who is a woman and gets it (also like thick and athletic women). Ideologies tend to as they get popular become less detailed and more sensational.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:35 AM
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Not technically trp but I post here out of boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:33 AM
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What about steroids, plastic surgery? You can make your hands bigger (thicker) by punching a bucket of rice If you mean just haircut, go to the gym then yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:32 PM
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Enjoy your moralism
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:43 PM
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A new born baby is not fully formed or conscious We are all just clumps of cells We disagree here, still I wish you all the best with your baby and a good new year
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:36 PM
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If you cheat that's a win If they cheat that's a loss
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:31 AM
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Listen if someone said abortion is killing I'd respect it. They do not contain the dna that is sufficient for life. Nessecary =/= sufficient. New born babies are barely cognizant so then should it be legal to kill new borns? I'm less against abortion than I am against the trying to fit in the life is sacred moral framework. Its a disregard for human life, own that. Don't make it into saving unwanted children. I think the death penalty is killing but in select cases am still for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:46 PM
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Conception is the point here. Niether an egg nor a sperm are a life. It is a separate part. You're body doesn't "know" anything. It's why if you get a carbon monoxide leak your cells prefer that to oxygen because the body doesn't have some sort of intelligence it has responses and reactions. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:39 PM
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That's not a choice that's an autonomic response The point of existence isn't happiness. Happiness is not this be all and end all or being loved or anything of that. This idea that no life is better than an unhappy life is bizzare, now if you want to argue all human life has not intrinsic value that's more reasonable. If women said abortion is killing, but my life matters to me enough that I'm willing to do that, well I'd respect the honesty there. If it was an admitted selfish act that disregar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:34 PM
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Existence with suffering is better than non existence Your body didn't choose to have a miscarriage, your body had a miscarriage. The body doesn't "choose" things at all, any non conscious function isn't the body "choosing"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:27 PM
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Are heart attacks murder, no. Murder is actively killing not in self defense or in warfare, that is murder. Letting people starve isn't murder. This is simple now isn't it. Being unloved isn't the be all and end all. A world with more unloved children is superior to a world with more aborted ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:20 PM
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Was unloved child, prefer it over being killed in the womb However I do appreciate that my birth was a mistake and I should have been strangled by an ambilicle cord. You are truly enlightened.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:14 PM
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Maintaining a good relationship isn't hard its just miserable. Getting an ltr is easier in the sense if you're willing to do said horse shit you can get it. Is casual sex unobtainable for most guys I'm not counting really disgusting looking women in this argument but having been uglier in the past, plenty of women wanted a relationship with me, I had no interest what so ever. I was a heavy drinking unstable wreck at this point too who was a fat fuck. Most men are too fat or too skinny. And it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:46 PM
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Nope Ltr isn't pulling. It's different. Ltrs are easier to get than causal sex, essentially men not good enough for casual sex can get ltrs, a man in that situation the woman has more power She can leave and get sex and he can't You never want a woman to have power over you anymore than you want a snake in your tent Also the point is to become better than other people. What is "the best version of yourself" personal best nonsense. Dating and sex is a competitive market.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:30 PM
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That's all pua it's not redpill pua, mark mason isn't real pua Yes, some girls will think you're creepy, some will reject you, you should be indifferent to it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:13 PM
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Sales is like flying a plan and pick up is like sales, or public speaking, or less nicely put police interrogation in the sense the point of it is to use an interaction to get one party to take a certain action
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:10 PM
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Reading and practicing can get you laid. No one in pua advocates armchair pua.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:08 PM
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Why would I care about meeting the queen, she's dead, she can't blow me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:07 PM
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It's better to get their number Do women prefer, some women say they prefer you giving but I've found the success rate in actual hooking up is higher you get their number
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:06 AM
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If someone insults you or your honor fighting them isn't wrong. I've never recycled also
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:29 AM
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I've never lied about my intentions I never said I was entitled, no one is entitled to anything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:21 PM
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No slutty women are doing the same thing and I have no problem with them. You know what the male equivalent or a prostitute is, a male prostitute. And I consider all of them disgusting. Why is love worthy of empathy. You can live without that even easier than you can live without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:15 PM
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I've gone without food, I've been piss poor and personally boredom is way worse if you ask me. You're not dying if you don't get love either. Fuck love is even more useless. Why does that get you, what larger waste of time and energy is there. Love or intimacy is much more of I have way too much time on my hands. Personally I have less sympathy for people who want to be loved. What makes someone worthy of another person making their life revolve around that nonsense? That's much more greedy. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:10 PM
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Nope we are all animals. Sorry to tell you governed by insticts. You, me, the monkeys in the trees, dolphins in the ocean, octopi, corvids and African grey parrots. We win the best at party tricks too, but we aren't that special.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:07 PM
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Okay but why is that something that doesn't deserve empathy? I feel way worse for some married guy than some guy getting it. Seeing a friend with a wife and kids who was fun is like looking at a retired athlete, seeing someone's who's best days have left them. Fuck I feel bad for girls who were once hot and now aren't. That must suck you know. It's very puritanical to put "intimacy" on this pedestal. Some people are loners who want sex. Some people don't want "intimacy".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:05 PM
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Yes but why would you want to be decent if it confers no unique benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:00 PM
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I mean in general you have positive interactions around casual sex, like you've enjoyed talking to her, its just someone you have sex with and don't see again. You don't have fun interactions with people you don't really want or need to see again? It's nice to have that, it's an adventure, that's all part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:59 PM
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I have made women cum, I haven't eaten them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:51 PM
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Using? Sex isn't using. Throw her in the garbage, it's just two people going their separate ways. Is she throwing me in the garbage? Are woman having causal sex throwing men in the garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:49 PM
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How you make money matters. Prostitutes make money by selling their last shred of dignity. Again its like eating out of the garbage. Do you hate women that have causal sex for not "caring". Why would I want to care, if I don't have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:46 PM
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How does that make me not a decent human being. I don't get that, I don't see a woman who has causal sex as indecent. Do you dislike promiscuous women for only using men. The same women who decry slut shaming also say men shouldn't want just women's bodies. Really. Sex is way better than talking to a woman. I'd much rather cum than hear a girl talk about her problems. Or hold her and snuggle. Having sex, having your penis in her vagina and mouth way better and makes you feel cooler than pretendi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:40 PM
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Seeing a prostitute isn't the same. Maybe you want to have sex with a decent human being you know. If someone is hungry you don't act suprised they don't want dirty dumpster food. I don't see why it's bad to know how to get better at getting casual sex. Even that gets met with, you don't want that, you want a relationship. And why is wanting a relationship more sympathetic. Probably because it's a scenario where the man only loses more than he gains. If a woman say had her face burned and said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:36 PM
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I do, but I know a certain type of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:23 PM
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The few incels I've met weren't bad, just annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:12 PM
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What is the point of being a decent man? You seem to be saying fuckboys do get laid more, women do want them for casual sex more Honestly you are selling the fuckboy lifestyle better than anyone could, low commitments, going out a night, getting laid, no listening to a gf, no having to take care of kids etc... Who in their right mind would rather be a decent man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:55 PM
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I've only known one girl who didn't hate her father
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:51 PM
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What is wrong with wanting to plow dozens of women? Why is it a crime to blue pillers that yes men want to get their dick wet, no we don't want a relationship and too be tied down, why is freedom and sex such an awful thing if a man wants that. It is because women need to feel that receiving their love, and loving them is, the most special thing in the world. Sorry it isn't. Making money feels better, climbing a mountain feels better, casual sex feels better, being left alone and not having to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:48 PM
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What if someone believes men and women are just animals and that humanising is a lie we tell ourselves to make us think we have more free will and are more different than the various other animals than we really are. What if humans in general are jus filthy mutts that are really good at lying to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:47 PM
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I'd agree they aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:42 PM
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So be bad because that's who women want to have sex with, understood. Being bad is more fun as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:41 PM
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Lmao Dude also a real ltr you will have to comprise your life, if you have ambitions she doesn't like, or want to take risks she doesn't approve of she will hold you back. Women don't want a man either to degrade too much or improve to beyond the point she finds relatable. This is awful advice you're getting here. God awful. If you can't pull, getting an ltr is an awful idea. Essentially you are trapping yourself. She knows she can leave and have options but thinks you cannot. And lets say you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:10 PM
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One established at least a base line that someone can choose to fuck you, the other doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:16 PM
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I don't think it's a conscious choice like that Being nice is what we are conditioned to do in the modern west. It's the path of least resistance. It's like being pious in 1500. Most nice guys have just absorbed this. They are products of our education system and media.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:12 PM
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Height was a red pill observation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:05 PM
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Not really you won't get much. I mean if you're devoid of ambition and don't want good sex, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:03 PM
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None There is no advantage at all in life except If you are very weak and low status no one will see you as a challenger
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:56 PM
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This is true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:26 AM
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Nope society should and does shame
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 12:33 AM
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You're assuming you'd think and feel different. You'd just be you but in an uggos body. You don't see the world differently. That's not how it works. Just like now when I'm with an average girl now that I'm above average I don't either go oh boy, I finally get average or go gross she's slightly below me. I go meh. You know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:36 PM
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Again you've never been really ugly. For some people dating can be rather pointless as the girl that would meet there threshold is unattainable and even an ugly girl requires attention. That doesn't mean life is pointless, but yeah below a certain looks threshold there is a possibility that romance you'd consider fulfilling isn't going to be part of your life and that doesn't feel very good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:33 PM
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Well fall in love first and foremost based on attraction Going back to my experience I know the times I've felt affection from a pretty girl wouldn't happen if I hadn't have gotten my face to look different. That's okay, but love is about mating and mating is about producing viable off spring to continue your line. We also love people for how they make us feel, its a selfish instict to want to feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:29 PM
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The hypothetical incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:25 PM
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I mean if you want to help someone, I think it's better to acknowledge the negative parts. Otherwise its condescension. Telling someone in a wheel chair, you aren't missing out by not being able to walk, doesn't make them feel better. Imagine if that happened to a friend. Going oh, yeah that's too bad, acknowledging the negative but saying here are you options is much better. Pity is bad but so is polyanna.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:24 PM
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It's an honest thought. I mean it is jarring when you realize love is not altruistic and understanding how that nuance is related to one's own being here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:20 PM
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He's not an incel though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:18 PM
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Life is mostly bleak. I've lived in a fair number of places, had good luck and bad and if you look all around you it is, existence is bleak, the world is filled with organisms trying to eat each other, our bodies decay. You don't have to cry about it, it doesn't mean you can't enjoy life or even love it, in fact to love it I think you have to acknowledge it for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:17 PM
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He wants to save you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:14 PM
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One can do a thing and understand the existential dread that goes along with it. All of life ends in death and your final moments will probably be coated in pain. You still live. Acknowledging bleakness isn't surrender. It's just accepting things for what they are. Not giving up is the lesser or two difficult choices but telling someone it's really rainbows isn't motivating. Acknowledging it's shit but going there can be some beautiful moments in this shit, and at least if you try you might have…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:11 PM
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Well I think one should be ashamed to be one And should be not be ashamed if they recover and put it behind them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:56 PM
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You weren't expected to fuck them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:05 PM
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Well as a former uggo I give you permission. You may not use the word, but that's what you feel. Putting a ugly truth nicely mostly is not for the benefit of the one experiencing it, but the one witnessing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:02 PM
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You still find the 4 out of 10 wretched. That is the thing. I remember wanted to vomit in my mouth one time. I ended up just spending cash when I finally made money to get my face cut open and in a shit ton of pain for weeks, went to the gym every day juiced to the point of insomnia to just not have to live with that. Now I had the money thank god to do that but my point is, imagine being expected to love that, I shutter still. Two really ugly people are two people that a caught between desperat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:55 PM
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America is nyc and la as far as I'm concerned. I kid but not really
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:49 PM
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See the thing is you still find them disgusting. Again rare privilege of having been on both sides of this. Its not like you look at them and think boy wouldn't it be great to be with you. You drink on a date till she looks passable and feel like shit being next to her. If you're poor and have to eat out of a garbage it doesn't make it taste good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:47 PM
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Maybe I've seen too many ny girls without make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:45 PM
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See I have had plastic surgery, I've done roids, and so I've been on both sides of average look wise. Honestly below average there is practically no point unless you can really make bank, or you can stomach kissing a really ugly girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:42 PM
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Yes I've seen men with n counts in the hundreds strike out. If you're goal is lots of hot women this is sort of irrevant. Also height matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:39 PM
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Also there is a difference between people who move there and are natives. We are used to being dead inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:35 PM
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LA is where the good looking people go. Hipsters and office workers with bulging mid sections, aging fake intellectuals with yellowing teeth, NYC is not a hot person city.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:34 PM
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We are talking numbers. I've seen guys with staggering high n counts crash and burn. It's accuracy versus precision. A good looking guy has high accuracy, he gets laid more often, even if he can mess up a single opportunity very bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:31 PM
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Good the amount of boring conversations I've had. It really often is a choice between lunatic or basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:28 PM
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He said good looking not decent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:26 PM
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Different decisions that what is normal you mean So you are against shaming heroine junkies? You don't think society should consider that shameful?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:06 PM
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What are your suspicions?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:05 PM
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Men and women are both largely monoliths Are you taking variation, well yes from the extremes there might be more, but if we are talking most men and most women that is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:03 PM
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Most can with some outliers Also POC isn't a group, it's a false conglomeration of a number of different groups whose only commonality is not being purely of indo european (although indians are Asian now but you get my point, are indegenous Europeans peoples white or are basqies POC, or Sami?) or uralic descent. Men and women however are clear groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:00 PM
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I don't think it should be against the law, but I do think society should judge it. People do not need to have respect for each other. The same way I am for all drugs being legal but society is correct to shame hard drug use. Social shaming and not shielding people from the consequences of their choices is a much more fair and efficient way to uphold traditional values than authorianism. If you got rid of the social safety net (which we both agree on) and hiring quota practices all sorts of gove…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:33 PM
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I don't care about n count but I have more respect for people who do than polyamorists Better to be a bad person with self respect than a "good" man without
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:47 AM
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Extreme stress shows you who you are. It amplifies what was there. That amplification will never be completely gone. I was beaten but would goad and insult my parents while they did it, I was very much that's the best you can do. I'm still that guy. I've found people who were submissive under stress revert once stress is back on. If you're an angry person by nature you will be angry under stress, if you're truly caring you will be caring under stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 07:05 AM
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Yes it is as a state of fact Not all life styles are equal and anyone who would commit and love a woman who fucks other dudes is broken Not all things are equal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:59 AM
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Yeah so unless it's a weird outlying situation you cum from piv sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:16 AM
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Yes and you're conflating that with American women in the 50s and before and the two are not at all similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:05 AM
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If you're territory is directly invaded of course you use nukes. That's why they are there. Not for contested territory. Nukes are for a nation's existential threats, so yes if it came between America being occupied or nuclear war of course nuclear war makes sense then but short of that no. So a really bad war no, if Vietnam 2.0 happened no one would get nuked. Most countries essentially only advocate nuclear weapons if it is either an enemy will occupy your country or first use, not over contes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:59 AM
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They would launch a nuke if we directly invaded their territory. It's no oh mr mean man will nuke for no reason cause he's evil and crazy. Autocracies operate under their own logic, being an autocrat doesn't mean one is more emotional or less strategic. It's not about temper tauntrams. If you see the purpose of society is to help people only, and dismiss power politics as irrational of course you aren't going to be able to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:49 AM
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That's not how nuclear strategy works darling. Not all wars are total wars, and not all wars demand regime replacement. Proxy wars don't genuinely risk nuclear retaliation. Any country without nukes is a free space on the chess board. South America, most of the middle east, Africa, large parts of Asia and any place in Europe not in NATO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:45 AM
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Most men today are undeserving. I think it's clear we are headed to a world where war and strife will be more frequent first of all and tradition will be needed. Look at the news. Look at the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:42 AM
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I don't care about happiness I care about victory and strength. Happiness is irrelevant. The left tends to be obsessed with happiness and empathy because they have the values of soft unformed children. I wouldn't want a place in a world of leftists or progressivism. Doing well in such a world means you're one of the carnival of broken people making a mockery of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:36 AM
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I mean unless you've injured your dick very bad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:35 AM
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We are seeing a conservative backlash and many zoomers are drawn to the conservative cause. Look at the amount of censorship and media propaganda it takes leftism and egilatarianism to convince people. Look at things like the supreme court rulings. I think you're seeing a slow return to normal because what you have is a system where the weak have tried to beg and beg and people are getting tired of it. People are tired of empathy and instead want strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:14 AM
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See the difference is, the world shouldn't be fair or kind. Those born as less get less, this idea what people didn't choose, they shouldn't be judged for is nonsense. Yes it's the luck of the draw. Life isn't meant to be fair. A wife is subordinate to her husband, life is not meant to be fair and no, no one is entitled to government support, if you can't swim, you sink. It doesn't matter if it is because you were born dumb or you can't take stress. We create family units to continue our line an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:01 AM
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Kind of like we assume someone with a cast has a broken arm, because wearing a cast isn't a casual diversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:49 AM
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Maybe not everyone should have a family then. Men should be forced to take in stressful roles, and wives should be loyal mothers first and foremost, a career is cute to do before parenting, and good for those women who don't want children. Not everyone is meant to win, those too weak to hack it shouldn't be making more people like them. Those wbo can't fit in to traditional values. We agree not everyone should have kids but I'd say it's best if those that can't hack it, society doesn't help. Dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:45 AM
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If a man can't do that he is unhealthy to begin with and probably shouldn't have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:18 AM
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Men don't run the gamut we all cum from piv sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:16 AM
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I'd rather not have someone dependant on a "therapist" to be a normal functioning person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:14 AM
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Well now how many people are on anti depressants or xanax The historical reason was over prescription in the 50s of anxiety drugs (arguably over prescription is a trend that continues)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:04 AM
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The card game doesn't matter my point is 2 things went wrong women being pressured to work Too high expectations on mothering, in the 50s kids were less parented, and mothers had more of a social life Now its both being forced to work, over parenting (kids need independence as well) and a lack of a social life So if instead of bridge you want to play rummy or mahjong it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:59 PM
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I'm not projecting im saying people who don't want tradition are broken We shouldn't normalise acceptance of perversions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:54 PM
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Yeah I'd rather have someone normal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:54 PM
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I'm saying they should Women were better off then and they didn't know it. They were happier under traditional hierarchy and the family unit was more functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:52 PM
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Moral principles aren't real People's belief in "morality" shapes behavior but far less than self interest Morals shape society less than the lip service that people pay them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:57 AM
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Yes Not real and largely useless and given far too much weight
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:52 AM
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Goes to therapy for regular maintenance No thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:50 AM
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That's my pick up line.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:49 AM
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The problem isn't the right its the idea of "partner", your wife is your wife and she's meant to so wife things and mother and the husband is meant to do husband things and father. She plays bridge with her friends and also can tell the kids go play outside. Children aren't meant to be helicoptered, another reason parents have stress. Women cry in offices because they have lower thresholds for stress. There is also natural hierarchy Husband>Wife>children, both parents are biological parents to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:46 AM
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Sir I was never spanked I was beat, which is also way less gay. In all seriousness yes and no. It gives you a clearer vision of how people work in some ways. I've met people from very kind homes who were incredibly and annoyingly delicate. Where more prone to crying and overly sensitive. So it's not that clear cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:41 AM
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See I understand women who hate patriarchy but being a man who is against it is idiotic. Altruism is stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:39 AM
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Libertarian left, I'm assuming you don't like even non de jure social conservatism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:49 AM
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As long as it's consensual that's what matters People harp too much on "ethics", "ethics" isn't real and the more byzantine you make it, the more useless it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:02 AM
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Very clever answer The world is candies and marshmallows and we are all equal!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:46 AM
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I love when leftys say bud Enjoy your broken people puddle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:44 AM
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It's not hatefull. Ltrs are not some sacred beautiful thing. Men aren't stupid almost every great empire was built by male ambition and conquest. I admire that leagues more than love. It is primarily physical. Men and women are not the same mentally and it is not a hateful statement. We are biological wired to think and relate very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:27 AM
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Polyamory is for broken people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:26 AM
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It's not mysgonist to say most men would prefer sex outside of a loving relationship. A relationship is the job most men do to get sex, most men would prefer multiple casual partners. Why is it bad to admit sex for men the enjoyment is primarily physical and its better with someone you don't know. The difference is men don't have a dual sex drive, which looks for attractive men for short term sex, and dependable men who are less naturally masculine for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 09:53 PM
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I don't hate women. Love in general is the most overvalued commodity. No as I pointed out it doesn't disprove your point. Someone tight with money is also getting security even if they don't get gifts etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:56 PM
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Exactly even putting abortion aside, contraception, plan b is so widely available that 99 percent of the time if you're a single mother it's because you wanted it. And it is not fair that the taxpayer have to foot the bill. Don't be suprised also decent men fine you gross
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:12 AM
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I've had the opportunity to hear women's honest opinions irl, and while not redpill imo miles more accurate than femimism In general humans are savage creatures
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:49 AM
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I've been on both sides, there is no joy in life if you can't see someone else lose And when you do lose, your opinion doesn't matter anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:37 AM
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I partially agree, money buys you time, freedom and status and being jacked definitely helps all things being equal But if making money, the way you do it cuts off your social life than it isn't going to help you get laid Trp's advice here is good but insufficient also it's not just level of income but lifestyle So if you're a rich accountant with no free time or a fireman with cool hobbies you will win. Ideally you have physique, money and time to meet women. Without the later you're fucked. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:50 AM
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Exactly also there is an effect where bartenders are hot in their bar, its localized authority in some places that has a party energy Also frat parties are energied to get laid, and women go there for that. Also being in s group can give you what pua called social proof. Trp is less get laid focused than pua and thus has a more limited tool kit there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:03 AM
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I do freelance work and run a buisness which isn't manual However cause of where I grew up I seem working class, and allot of women have viewed me as sort of novelty for it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:12 AM
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Women love different it's calculated Horrible doesn't mean it's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:09 AM
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Yes even when they do, a man would fall in love with marry a woman who was bad with money, he would be fine with her not contributing at all as long as she truly desired to be submissive with him Women's love is practical, it doesn't reach into the soul The love of women is largely a lie they tell others and themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:40 PM
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See we also disagree with what's good, I admire the competitive, angry agressive parts of human nature, the conquests of empires, engineering feats, dominating with one's will and hierarchy I find lions more interesting than the gazelle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:30 PM
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Yes something something humans are complex, something something culture you can't tell for sure where culture begins and biology ends It's a social construction of the gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:28 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:25 PM
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This, if anything it shows how flimsy most ltrs are and love from women is a fleeting calculus based on finance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:18 PM
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She also has the most options even now, men don't have a plan b even I think the truth is also most single mothers aren't responsible people, most are women who have poor planning and judgment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:14 PM
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Look it up dht topical gel 10 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:15 PM
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Performance enhancing drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:12 AM
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As long as you are 5'8 height is neutral. There are newer height enhancing surgeries that are safer and have faster recovery, however they can effect your athletic ability slightly. As for dick size, not much you can do but dht gel might work. Haven't tried, afraid of hair loss, not worth it as I'm good enough there. Voice, there is voice deepening surgery that runs 5k, haven't done it myself. Plastic surgery does work if you go to a good doc. PEDs again worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:09 AM
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If I listened to that outlook of the comment you're replying to every beautiful thing in my life I would have missed. I've known enough high tier successful individuals to know most aren't special it's just hard work and some luck. No magic, no separate universe they reside in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:03 AM
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Plastic surgery (from a good doc) and PEDs. If you make enough for a fancy car, and your goal is smv do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:01 AM
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I mean I think outliers are also more likely to go that's not me! along with non outliers who want to feel special. Normal people don't care. Allot, I mean 1 percent of 9 billion people is still technically allot, you know so it's relative. However we are talking about general rules and most people so it's still useful. 7 foot and 3 foot people exist but we don't build cars with them in mind. Such is life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:37 AM
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Not really There are unusual outliers but generally due to biology men think one way and women think another Though allot of people like to deny that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:19 AM
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You know these point systems seem really on the spectrum This isn't a pen and paper board game
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:05 AM
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We mean fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:03 AM
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I will I just hate exclamation points, it's my only moral scruple haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:01 AM
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Oddly enough when I've been fat (my weight goes up and down) I've had girls who grew up country like me who were cute I am loud too. Oh god I just seemed like fat loud hick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:59 AM
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What really works is passive aggressive smugness nothing says I'm a cool dude like that!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:50 AM
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It was because of some other factor Lets say you love cherries, right and you get laid, you're getting laid was not due to you liking cherries It is a largely irrelevant factor however unlike liking cherries people pretend being good gets you laid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:30 AM
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No contradiction Being good is largely irrelevant to getting laid Was my point so one can pursue and asshole or non asshole strategy and ones genuine opinions are largely irrelevant as well So it is a myth being good gets you laid, if you are good and get laid the driving force in your success is not being good
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:17 AM
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I run my own thing and it's from home. Legit I am considering renting an office and if I get more hiring a secretary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:42 AM
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Yeah its a myth being a good person gets you laid, you can be an asshole or not an asshole and get some. Both are options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:40 AM
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Women are like this across the board in groups not just dating they are blame avoidant in group in front of each other, consensus seeking, largely passive agressive Take a seminar that is almost all women or watch any group of women conflict is only below the surface and criticism is not openly and clearly given
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:01 AM
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I largely agree but part of it maybe that women's autism tends to be harder to detect and they have an easier time fitting in. I'm not autistic but have two friends who are (ironically the slightly more autistic guy had allot of success with women and his career but again even he is mild), both can be difficult to talk to often, and communicating with them can be difficult but they are also very close friends. Both are within an hour of knowing them off. As for the rest yeah I agree, women seek …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:59 AM
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I think in terms of hierarchies and competition so it's more this stuff isn't really meant for people who don't think like that. Different people are fulfilled by different things and we don't choose what gives us this. So for people who this does appeal to and it doesn't both mindsets are very alien. I cannot imagine wanting what you want but I also understand other people think differently than I do. I think if you want to be fulfilled I hesitate to use the word happy as not everyone is lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:52 AM
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I don't think women are foids lol, I have my issues with TRP which are probably different than yours. I derive no happiness from ltrs, ironically I've had a decent number of women some very successful who wanted to ltr me. I'm not a people person but I like sex. I understand your position in so much as you think very different from me and I wish you all the best but I find politically correct answers annoying as I've heard them my whole life before it was cool and competion, being mostly alone a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:16 AM
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So you're basically a peasent that sticks his head in the sand. So brave This real people don't nonsense is sickening You're no different than the guy who decided the basketball team didn't take him due to height. Oh I really am happy with my humble little life, as long as I repeat don't compare. Also I evaded lockdown by relocating as well. Its not that hard. My memories of covid are after hour bars, going clubbing etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:51 PM
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Those are real people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:37 PM
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Men are for friendship women are for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:35 PM
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The point of getting rich isn't happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:22 PM
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Men want sex and success. Success and money give you options and power and increase your place in the hierarchy. Sex makes your dick feel good and it is s biological imperative for men to spread their seed. Women want love and security. They care more about happiness and safety. They care more about focusing their energy on a smaller number of offspring. Since female fertility is more limited in its quantity of output.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 08:18 PM
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Women need emotional safety. I think it's fairly true and due to biology hence the stastically higher rates of anxiety among women https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135672/ Women also expel men from relationships due to a lack of emotionality https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5961442/ They need their emotional security needs met in a way men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:52 PM
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When talking about general rules then generalisation is helpful. Exceptions do not negate a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:46 PM
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Money less, but still, safety it's still very much the norm. Women need to feel safe. Men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:42 PM
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Because 1 Risk is enjoyable and exciting, security is not. 2 I've never thought I need security, and the idea of emotional security is so alien it just barely makes sense. Men don't think boy I wish I had more emotional security, they don't look at a woman and smile and think "you make me feel safe". It isn't how men think. Sex is something I need, security is something I don't want and men pay lip service to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:38 PM
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Me anx allot of other men don't want security Women want it more, its not something most men think about
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:33 PM
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I mean its not false. Everyone assumes on their death bed if they are alone they will go, oh I wish I had a loving wife my age and two mediocre children. The media feeds us that, we are told that since we are little by people lying to themselvs. I've had the experience of oh I'm about to be dead and you do review your life, and you do think of what's important and have regrets mjne was I wish I made more money, fucked more women and did something important (and not important like "being a good p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:55 PM
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I'm not in that category myself but I have met guys who are. When I was broke fuck I knew guys who just lost the genetic lotto and were with these disgusting women and yes could not do better. Lets not pretend the barrel doesn't have a bottom. Surely you've been to walmart haven't you? Walk through there and you see guys and women and you think fuck how do you not vomit when you fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:48 PM
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Relationships not just marriage are glorified hobbies Just be a loving little loser playing house lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:41 PM
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That's a very feminine outlook Relationships are a waste of time. They are at best a glorified hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:37 PM
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I mean for some people that is unavoidably true. There are just plain born ugly and stupid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:36 PM
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I'd actually prefer to die alone. The happy loser has lost the game, mediocre people tout happiness because that is the best they can hope to get out of life. All experiences are fleeting. Also I've had a number of near death experiences and I've never thought I wished somebody loved me, or I had a, deep connection I thought about all the things I wanted to do or accomplish, and the meaningless of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:34 PM
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I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:45 AM
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A relationship is the least important part of life. Women overvalue being a good husband. Allot of accomplished men are horrible husbands and allot of mediocre men are very nice ones. Doesn't mean jack shit. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:43 AM
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I think they are right, most people will be miserable and are expendable that is how humanity has always worked. Egilatarianism is a lie. Can Andrew Tate save you, probably not. Also you assume they want to be happy, they want to be successful. There is a difference. Being a miserable winner is better than a happy loser. Where they do overkill is really getting fit maybe some cosmetic surgery if you aren't a complete uggo, beyond repair and decent clothes plus game is enough to be someone's bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:30 AM
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Yes, personally I would rather be high value and I'd rather be alone tjan paired up in a loving average relationship. Love is a waste of time if you ask me. Also getting a relationship with even a higher value women is tbh less challenging than most people think. If I wanted a relationship allot of women have ironically wanted that with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:27 AM
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And cognitive decline starts slowly in ones thirties So really 25 to approx 35 is the only time anyone has the proper judgement for sex duh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:19 AM
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The actual background of the statement shows it has some logic Clubs then were used for networking and often kept out jews, the club that let him in wasn't high quality and presumably gave him no benefit but you would still have to pay membership dues. Likewise I think the way maybe these men see it is they want sex but the sort of woman willing to give them casual sex isn't even worth the effort I don't know it doesn't make sense, I actually have a mild headache now But there is logic to being …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:16 AM
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I've seen it, but I live in Europe. Also considering she's in upstate there are many women there who age prematurely. Lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:25 AM
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See this is why guys want causal sex btw, well one of the reasons Imagine you have a libido but also want your own life, you want to have sex with someone who wants to have sex with you But not a life together or a "partner" Good luck finding yourself, everyone should take some years to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:23 AM
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Honestly having been to upstate ny if you take care yourself I do believe you look younger than your age and yes the men there have awful bad habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:09 AM
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People in upstate ny look like dog shit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:08 AM
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Security can mean emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:08 AM
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Allot or men find safety and security stifling. This is the biggest difference. I enjoy risk, physical and otherwise. Security makes me just feel numb. So the idea of a cosy little life, and a cosy little home to me sounds like shit. So a woman isn't giving me something by entering into a relationship and the compromises that come with it, she is taking, taking joy, taking all the untethered freedoms. Relationships for me are a sacrifice and the very thing that brings women joy in a relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:07 AM
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I mean you're just quitting the market. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:04 AM
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I mean an alpha male leads men, to be completely honest I think a real alpha male doesn't really care if women respect him, a woman's sex is much more powerful than her respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:03 AM
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Some people want fast money. They come from broken homes and are used to being miserable. It's that simple. I came from a shitty house and while I am not that fucked in the head there is definitely a level of discomfort I can shrug off. I've lived in filthy enough places where I slept in the bath top to avoid vermin crawling on me in my sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:42 AM
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Allot of alcoholics say they don't have a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:39 AM
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I like eating fast food but hate cooking and I have no gratitude to burger flippers. Prostitution is unskilled labor and unskilled labor doesn't warrant respect especially if you are selling your body. I also don't assume and would not expect prostitutes to respect johns. What it is is two groups of losers, one needs money, one needs sex. Life failed you both and decency has left the premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:38 AM
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Sometimes in life there is the only an option between a bad choice and a worse choice. Making a man wait is the worse choice. Also men don't need relationships, this craving is something very alien to us. I don't think the high n count judgement happens irl btw. Its more of quirk of pill people. Sometimes the break downs of dating here are divorced from reality. I've never known a guy to leave a girl due to a high n count, honestly involvement in an alternative life style (poly, enm etc...) is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:33 AM
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An average guy in his 30s looks the same as in his 20s. Younger people over estimate aging. Especially for single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:50 AM
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Nope I've found it only works is there is an equal level of mutual sexual tension, not enough to fuck but enough you flirt back and forth Or you both find each other completely unattractive And even then it's never a real friendship like with guy friends its most just you kill time with that person. Male friends being men, you naturally think more alike and I've found women don't understand true camaraderie it is not in their nature, and the way they think is too different unless there is some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:10 AM
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People don't still go to bars? Go out drinking on Fridays and the weekend I don't live in the states anymore so I am experiencing a bit of a time capsule maybe, like I've never heard pronouns irl
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:49 AM
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Allot of those friendships you end up flirting back and forth I've found. There is generally some sexual tension. It can work either if there is none of it runs both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:46 AM
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Pua did that. RIP pua.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:43 AM
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I dunno most men I find are okay with irl, personally I am anti prostitution, I wouldn't even qualify sex with a hooker as sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:16 AM
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A system has to have goals and does it want to care about safety for those who cannot be helped or allow those who can succeed to do so If all you can be is raise your wifes boyfriends kids honestly does that level of pathos deserve consideration I don't think so
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:10 AM
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Maybe the problem is a system shouldn't be designed to be accessible to the lowest of the low. Yeah there are lost causes. Some people sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:59 AM
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Not a red piller but a gender traditionalist, yeah these are general statements personally these outliers are not something I think or worry about. Exceptions don't disprove a general rule, this isn't proof writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:58 AM
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I'll come at it from a more non blue pill angle. As a guy sex as intimacy or sex as a reward is very much sex for being a nice kind beta. Do you want to be the kind of guy who bends to a woman's will to get half hearted sex another guy could have got without having to degrade himself with "comprise". If you're in an ltr the man has already given enough to deserve sex, if she doesn't give it he should leave. That simple. Dont support any woman who won't eagerly put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:51 AM
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I hate dancing. No amount of sex can make me like it. I enjoy the gym way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:37 PM
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Dude you're getting laid, also normal people get drunk in clubs to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:32 AM
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I'm saying it's a bit of a paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:38 AM
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I'm saying it's a bit of a paradox
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:38 AM
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Even if he cheats he will provide and an average guy is less likely to be able to successfully cheat than an average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:28 AM
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Mid 30s 18 and up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:17 AM
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Do what's in your best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:16 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:02 AM
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Younger woman are awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:36 AM
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Nope. It depends on life style.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:35 AM
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Trp is against women having casual sex, you can't dislike high n count women and like casual sex. It promotes men having casual sex but it looks down on woman for it. In pua one of the worst things you could do was make a woman feel bad for being sexual. Obviously because it hurts your chances at getting laid. N count as a term came from pua, but it was pretty much only used to refer to your score. Also allot of them seem to be against it in general. Some are against women having high n counts, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 03:28 AM
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It's more trad the pua. It does want the imagined 1950s ideal. It's ideal world is trad. Or imaginary trad. I believe it was explained to me once, the world is broken we can't go back to how it was, and be men like our grandfather's but this is the best we can do in the modern world. Pua doesn't have an ideology, it's more get laid, that's it. Live her better than you found her, was a common saying, the ideal was it would be a positive experience for all. Trp doesn't like women having causal sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:56 AM
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I do prefer Eastern to Western Europe, not for the trad girls nessecarily, I find the people more genuine. If they like you or don't like you, you know. Western Europeans can just be very passive aggressive. Its not an endearing trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:48 AM
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What's a good catch phrase
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:28 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:16 AM
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I care about ownership and loyalty over love but good on you. I wish I lived in the 19th century or before. I do my best to maintain a little corner of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:05 AM
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Oh yeah none cared about n count. Irl I've never known a dude who cared about that. The last one above not caring about n count would raw dog the most disgusting women, I'm talking its a miracle he doesn't have something. None had high standards, and allot of those dudes preferred chubby girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:25 AM
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What about a rich white girl with daddy issues? I think daddy issues rules still apply more or less in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:46 PM
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Being autistic and black, that would be a dating death sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:44 PM
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Lifting ain't boring dancing is Dating is easier in Europe whether you're liberal or conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:41 PM
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Also while criminal allot aren't that alpha, one I knew was a crying wreck after his gf left him Another ended up going straight and became a loving father. Another dude I know has legit never been in a real fight. He has gotten a beat down. Just looks big. All bark. They couldn't keep a decent girl and not for lack of trying. All were tall and good looking. They know how to front really well, and are often pretty broken. None of them dated customers. Well the last one did but because he aged li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:30 PM
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If s polish girl wants a foreigner she can marry a German. Poland is in the shengen zone, lots of other European nationals date or marry Polish girls (although there is a decent amount of anti Polish sentiment).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:26 PM
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Women like hanging with drug dealers because 1 bad boy 2 allot of them are very good with people, it's essentially a sales job I knew a decent amount of drug dealers growing up going to a ghetto high school and living in some shitty neighbourhoods as a young adult, and just hanging (I never did drugs myself) , yeah some even slept with a yuppie here and there But they were generally in good shape and genuinely charismatic. Understood human psychology. Some weird ugly drug dealer, isn't getting l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:21 PM
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Yep my grandparents grew in an idyllic conservative neighbourhood everyone's wife or husband was cheating, there were closed gays, there were child molesters, unhappy mothers All the shit we have now. Human nature in all its awful degeneracy doesn't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:18 PM
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Trp rejected allot of pua for not being trad, there was some overlap but pua in the late 00s early 10s I think was its technical peak A mix of some scandal, Mark Manson getting popular with pua light on one hand, and trp meant it got lost in the, shuffle You had genuinely average dudes getting proper ons, and despite what people said it was mostly mildly awkward yuppies and college/grad kids and some guys in their thirties who were picking their life up. Pua is also supposed to be fun. It's best…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:02 PM
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The one's who are all dolled up are high maintaince, and often cheat The ones who are educated, are more independent are lower maintenance The ones who are super conservative in the country side probably aren't going to want to marry a foreigner
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:52 PM
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You guys do love going to church on Sundays, makes it hard find stuff open Also you're practically Czechia at this point, you guys gotte up your trad game to get those wifey searching tourists
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:47 PM
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I'm trying to imagine a conservative eastern european girl hearing TRP, dear god I can just see a confused stare mixed with uneasiness Also these people don't understand that worldwide our generation knows English and they aren't unaware of western culture
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:45 PM
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Steroids + plastic surgery if you're average and have money, and a risk tolerance
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:21 PM
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See old school pua understood its push and pull You can't just neg, you can't only be an asshole You have to balance validation with withdrawal of validation A woman should know you will desire her but can leave at any time and optimally you are genuinely willing to leave and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:21 PM
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So trp works is what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:19 PM
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It's dumb I've spent time in Eastern Europe no interest in finding a wife, honestly yes it's a bit more conservative than the west if you're from a big left leaning city but it's no more conservative than the American South maybe less Also the fun eastern euro women I met where just normal and chill and they were more trad in that they didn't want men to be effete. If you're a foreigner you'd probably have to go to the more the country side where there would be a language barrier and people woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:13 PM
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Left wing trash is all moral hand ringing and denial of reality let's make the world a better place Eye roll Yeah it's wanting to win, that's the purpose not some communal unearned victories where you drag social dead weight across the finish. Listen if you want to be empathic find a gender neutral partner, share chores, and pay lots of high taxes to subsidise drug addicts and/or single moms The left is a great option If you wanna make money and get laid and take your chances, don't take politic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:03 PM
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I'm horny all the time. The average woman's sex drive imho i varies more than men's but its higher than they let on, its just more selective It's high for men they have an animalistic attraction to which may or may not be who they ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:02 PM
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This is a politically correct response and largely nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:00 PM
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The only way female friends help is if you're a guy who doesn't know how women think Most will admit at some point yes af/bb is real etc... You can never be true friends with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:59 PM
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A better strategy the old pua mass cold approach. You don't have to view women as people, wtf does that even mean. You just need to seem less awkward. The problem is if you're bad women will call you creepy however like any skill you will probably suck at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:55 PM
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All women are women. They are all submissive if they like you enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:18 PM
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What would I do if I was a barn owl, I, wouldn't be me. If I was a woman I'd probably cry more, and have a higher level of anxiety and less upper body strength. I'd also probably have worse taste in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:16 PM
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The traditional North Eastern - North American establishment wasn't that religious. You can be secular, anti communist and Conservative (without being a social libertarian or something like that).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:11 PM
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I'd say you can't be a deeply religious Catholic trad Conservative. You can surely be a capitalist neo con and do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:10 PM
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Because you want your wife to be your woman. If her greatest physical ability to bear children, she gave to another man, and you are rasing his kids, that other man has in a way bested you and usurped your natural right for you wife to give you your own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:08 PM
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No. Mid 30s had a step dad also, no on enjoys it. The only reason a family isn't a traditional nuclear family is something went wrong along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:05 PM
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I'm a masculine traditional guy and I like less traditionally feminine women as long as they can be sweet, and soft and tender when I'm around them. Honestly cardio is your friend. Toned but healthy don't get super skinny as that will make your features stand out more. Just get healthy, people look better when they are healthy. That's my advice looks wise more than surgery. However if you want surgery speaking as someone who has had it, make sure you find a good doc, it's not cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:52 PM
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I mean if you're in shape it can be sexy, I'm gonna be honest a out of shape women with strong features looks like a sad programmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:49 PM
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Here is thing women say they don't want a masculine man, but I've never met a woman who isn't attracted to masculine men and masculinity. Watch what women do not what they say, fuck that's everybody. See what people do not what they say. Society is anti masculine, women aren't. I have a friend, she says all sorts of anti man stuff, all sorts of traditional masculinity is bad and guess what she's fine with those dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:43 PM
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They are friendly and feminine towards me but they can treat other people quite harsh. Also I'm in my thirties say when I say not feminine I mean more of a tomboy, into sports and the outdoors. Sometimes I forget how weird the world is. So yes still likes to wear a dress sometimes and be pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:13 PM
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I think it's more grounded than bluepill. As for hypergamy, I think everyone wants to date up, men maybe try less. Af/bb is often right but also I've known women married to guys who worked cool but not high paying jobs, and I've been with women who earned more than me, and wanted something serious. I don't have a stable life style. I think the basics are more correct but its extrapolations get weird. Like men prefer younger women, and allot men tend to prefer women with lower n counts than them …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:02 PM
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I'm not a trper, I'm conservative, I'm a nihilist and used to be into pick up. Pua made more realistic assumptions about women, than trp. It was also not as angry about it. Old school pua is dead. Trp is like it's weird brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:57 PM
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Nope. When an ambitious normally feisty woman melts when she is with you it's adorable. They are more fun to be around. They tend to be funnier, and into sports. More fun to go on trips with. I have male friends, I earn decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:54 PM
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I also don't know an adult man who wants a virgin woman. TRP assumes all men want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:52 PM
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The thing is allot of people are disordered. If you're single and aren't interested in regular well adjusted average looking nice people trp works and I'd say that normal people have watered down versions of that. Also why would I care about women I don't find attractive in devolping a strategy. Yes I don't think about women I don't find attractive they don't enter my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:47 PM
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I will debate 1 I don't find niceness attractive but im in the minority of men I know. I don't like overly feminine women in general. But I'm odd there in that I'm not a male feminist, or blue pilled, it's just not the type that gets my dick the most hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:45 PM
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Yeah no man wants to have a kid to raise by himself. Wtf would they gain?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:39 PM
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This even made me sick
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:38 PM
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Yes but I don't mean physical intimacy I mean sex. Why is it so bad stating sex as a need, why must we frame it as intimacy. There are marriages where the wife wants sex, and the man doesn't put out (this also happens), I'll say the same thing there too. Why must we frame sex as intimacy, it's not, it may be intimate but the primary need here is not intimacy it's a penis being inside of a vagina. The intimacy is a nice side benefit at best but not the point. If a woman wanted to have sex with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:30 PM
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I'm serious A sexless marriage the man is still providing and paying for the woman during that time period You expect sex from your wife if you marry her, its why you marry a woman, aside from having kids, it being a long term sexual relationship is the point If a wife can leave a husband for emotional neglect and get money surely the husband deserves the same for sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:16 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:10 AM
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What's the point of having a wife you can't have sex with. I do think in an ideal world it would be grounds for divorce and she should have to pay the deprived man some sort of debt. However its not abuse I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:09 AM
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I don't know if it's abuse, abuse is an overused term now, I think emotional abuse or verbal abuse is nonsense. So no, not having sex isn't abuse, someone beating you is abuse, maybe someone breaking your stuff is abuse, it is however something that shouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:07 AM
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Eh I think they should take one for the team.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:03 AM
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If a wife won't have sex, the man should be allowed to cheat I think. No openly but the wife should just look the other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 02:02 AM
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You can dislike a person for something they can't help. This is a very post modern concept you can't. I hate sensitive people, I hate being around people with anxiety I don't care whether or not they can help it. A lot of men who dislike women get laid allot, liking or disliking is irrelevant personally I find I have liked women more accepting what their nature is. The problem is okay you want sex, this is how women are, complaining does nothing, figure out how to play the system, like an ad exe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:52 PM
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Pua was better because it was how do we use these insticts to our advantage Instead of complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:49 PM
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Lions actually depending on the pride and their location will have different hunting styles and methods. They still run on instict.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:48 PM
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Yes but allot of people in other social sciences deny this, sociologists and cultural anthropologists, for example and most other fields that don't even study this at all such as political science because social science leans left and the left hates this notion If you argue for human perfectabillity and a non competive society you run into this wall regarding the competitive nature of man and the fact we are not all equally capable, gender roles being linked tightly with hormonal/biological infl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:41 PM
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Language may not be a mono culture in the sense its still debated whether it started independently in different places or it happened at once. If the faculty for language predates language use is unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:37 PM
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Psychology has a massive duplication problem
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:28 PM
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Psychology isn't hard science, sociology isn't hard science, economics isn't hard science evo psych it's harder than something something culture Linguistics relies on many many assumptions. Many many fields are not hard or as hard as they should be. The backlash is because the social sciences in general and the left like to believe in tablu rusa or as close as possible How can you perfect humanity if humanity is not perfectable if our insticts mean we get satisfaction from competition and mating…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:28 PM
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It wouldn't offend me, it would make me suspect her but it wouldn't offend me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:49 PM
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I think it means very little, although that little is important. I think people use it overly narrow. It's definitely not what the left tends to advocate today but I also think what allot of people who call themselves traditionalists claim it is, is based more on fictional representations than the actual eras and practices they are referencing Also I'm pro traditionalism so I'm not against it, just my critique
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:29 AM
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If you're good it gives her an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:23 AM
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No one ever followed it en masse. If you're talking about the western tradition it's more than the bible, it's as much that as it the roman empire, chaucer, art, literature, architecture and legal codes, then chivalry isn't traditional because Jesus seems to be a pacifist and that sounds weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:19 AM
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Also we forgot that men and women had sex before marriage through out history if you read memoirs sex before marriage was very common, only in very select communities it wasn't (i. E. New England puritans), prostitution existed in medieval Europe and was legal, peasent girls cheated with knights, in colonial America there was drinking and one night stands. There where women small business owners in the 19th century. In 1950s America there was infedility. Traditional values as allot of people her…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:09 AM
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I don't think morality exists, there is no good Nature does There is victory, there is defeat, there are the weak and there are the strong That's it And to quote Margaret Thatcher "there is no such thing as society".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:34 AM
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I like aggressive women, always have, I like how when they like you they get all sweet I don't like traditionally feminine women, never been what I found sexy. I think duels should be legal and admire acts of conquest Men are more agressive, its our nature
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:23 AM
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Male aggression when improperly channelled is bad. The difference between a bomb and a rocket is how you funnel the explosive force. Men with suppressed aggression are off kilter, why I think women are suspicious of "nice guys", why allot of male feminists have latent hate towards women. Yeah I think aggression is good, I have never been close friends with anyone who wasn't an aggressive sort. Hence my point. Different roles I'm glad women are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:42 AM
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Yeah I'm not a trp or mra. I mean basically you said we are good at all the important stuff that makes civilization and bad at nurturing. Male aggression made empires. I don't see the insult. I like being a man. I don't see it as bashing my own gender at all. I don't see being sensitive as a positive probably because I'm not meant to, it's not my role. Women like being women and men like being men. Women consider being sensitive good and more emotionally oriented. Women keep the day to day going…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:10 AM
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Life is a zero sum game
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:06 AM
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No one who knows me would call me trusting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:00 AM
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I'm fine with someone else raising my kid tbh I prefer winning to losing, sue me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:59 AM
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A friend of mine had this sweet gf, and one day on a business trip he was out of town, I was crashing there and she tried to convince me to fuck her talking about how she'd like to have a kid. We looked alike. Now she talks about how she hates cheating and hates when other men hit on here. I don't believe anyone, I don't believe in trust when you can have verification. Everyone has moments of weakness and its too much to bet no matter how it would make you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:57 AM
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I'd get a paternity test by choice
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:53 AM
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Yeah not as bad as raising another mans kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:52 AM
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It's not that expensive. I suggested a friend get one, he didn't. Too late now no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:51 AM
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I'd rather get an std then raise another mens kid, fuck I'd rather get cancer, I'd rather my whole family get cancer Women don't understand the visceral insult and worst possible affront it is to a man on the level of primal instinct
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:48 AM
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As a guy though doesn't it not being mandatory is optimal. Like you can then potentially sleep with another mans girl have him take care of your kids but also demand a test for yours. Like I've chased girls who happened to be with similar looking boyfriends and the thought crossed my mind. Basically being a suspicious cheating man becomes optimal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:45 AM
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I know getting caught sucks Imagine hiding something really well until the last minute and then getting caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:41 AM
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Yeah that is how most regular guys feel. Oh god the not people thing. I see all people as objects so there. Men are meant to work and fight and women are meant to mother and nurture. I wouldn't call a woman sexist for that at all if they said men are less fun to them. If a woman said men are naturally more insensitive, generally more hot tempered I'd go yeah we are. I think a man hitting a woman is way worse than a women hitting a man. I don't claim men and women are the same. I disagree with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:26 AM
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I can see why you don't understand. Yeah if you aren't a regular sort fo guy this probably doesn't make sense to you. Yes women have interests, yes they are people, dear god I didn't say they weren't. rolls eyes I don't care what feminists think but yeah I'm sure she would. If not finding women as fun as men is sexist then most men are naturally wired to be sexist. shrugs Yeah if a man cries in public its weird. Male friendships are different. I've been to friends weddings, funerals of their rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:18 AM
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More to me it shows a lack of self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:53 AM
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I mean this is also from when I was in my teens and twenties it might be different now. Also it depends if you mean the black middle class. I think the tension there is less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:21 AM
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I'm a North Easterner, I sometimes forget there are other parts of America
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:27 PM
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Yes gay men are friends with women it's almost like they tend to be more feminine and woman like Also I'm saying even if straight men aren't attracted to a specific woman the fact he has a very different instinct dealing with her means he can take her differences, there is a natural protectiveness and patience that is connected to seeing women naturally on some level for mating and making children and mothering. If you took away the male sex drive and its connected insticts. No I wouldn't find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:25 PM
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It does equal you take out attraction you aren't going to have similar enough temperaments to enjoy each others time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:27 PM
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No they are just degenerates with a screw lose and society should shame them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:08 PM
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Men and women are biologically different and it turns out the brain is a biological organ. Weird right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:56 PM
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It's legal in Nevada in the US It generally isn't respected personally I think it should be legal but socially shamed Also I'm not sure its western morals, I'm pretty sure prostitutes aren't respected almost anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:52 PM
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America has prostitutes too I know surprising and there isn't any country that respects it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:50 PM
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Yeah A friend of mine married a woman from Africa. She wanted to move to the US, he was afraid he'd lose her. They do move and he doesn't leave him but it turns out she doesn't like America. She misses her social life back home. Also he is desperate to make ends meet. Life isn't simple Also she was definitely with him cause he had money has a foreigner but not only. People who paint men as evil and women innocent in these circumstances miss the naunce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:41 PM
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African Americans also don't like African immigrants and can be oddly nativist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:39 PM
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Even the ones who are independent take care of themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:31 PM
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Yeah anyone who likes being a prostitute has a screw lose and I don't respect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:30 PM
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And European women tend to not be as out of shape as American women. So there are more attractive women in other places also.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:11 PM
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I mean I don't spend time around feminine men. I don't even spend time around overly feminine women that much. The two sexes are very different. So even women who are more like men in terms of interests, who I can at least enjoy hanging with, if there wasn't any attraction they'd be like less entertaining more sensitive dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:09 PM
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Sex work is prostitution and it is disgusting anyone who voluntarily does prostitution has sold out their dignity Most end up in it to pretty dire circumstances and I do feel pity for those People who see prostitutes I have little to no respect for
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:06 PM
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I avoid very feminine women in dating Nope women and men are different
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:41 PM
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Irl I stay away from most of those guys. Not all of them are bad but I've met some who were truly awful people. Who I heard had some really awful opinions about women, and I'm hardly pc so I get your reaction. That whole interaction I think on both sides encourages people to be as awful as possible. It becomes a contest of who can exploit who more, can the woman take advantage of the men's loneliness, can the man wave his cash, its like the worst of human nature. I've seen on both sides people g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:37 PM
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In terms of outright prostitution women definitely are the victims However what this is, there is a grey area where a guy will pay for dinners or a part of a girls rent in these countries And it's not technically prostitution and both will kind of pretend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:02 PM
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The exploitation goes both ways, as it usually does in these instances. I can tell you stories of Eastern European women ruining men and visa verse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:00 PM
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I mean European men have success in America because women assume Europe is cultured. It's exotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:58 PM
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It's sometimes murky. Like guys will help a woman with her rent, groceries and both can tell themselves this isn't prostitution. You know, or he's paying for meals in restaurants she couldn't afford, or letting her stay in his fancy hotel. A guy I met in a bar told about a situation he had like than in the Philippines.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:55 PM
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Traditionalists
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:48 PM
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The green card exploitation in Africa goes both ways. Allot of those guys literally their life revolves around it, they aren't looking for work. They do nothing but drinking and pick up and allot of other locals don't like them and allot have the dream of you get a green card, you get her pregnant and you just sit on your ass and don't work. The same with women, there are women in countries who do exist as hangers on to foreignern men. Allot of this is mutual exploitation. Which I don't see the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:46 PM
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Yeah I see women completely differently. I've lived abroad for some time and if you're gf goes on vacation alone lmao. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:43 PM
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I knew a friend who kind of did this, he ended up married by accident (long story) and he was terrified if he moved back to the states she'd leave him. They did, she didn't. Because he isn't a bad dude. But one thing is I think this whole myth she will leave you, she is only with you cause you are from X place, poisons guys head. If a girl bad mouths, says I only date foreigners to me that's a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:41 PM
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Yep I've seen this. Some chick "volunteering" and literally she's just really there to fuck, the level of female debauchery is astounding. Most are under the guise of some sham ngo, sham teaching English to kids, sham job that really is just a glorified extended tourist visa. I don't care, good for her whatever. Honestly travelling has made me learn not to trust women, the staggering amount women cheat. And it's not just middle aged women, otherwise attractive women as well there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:35 PM
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Haha I travelled to the same place, didn't realise that and saw it for the first time Yeah it's a mutual contract
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:13 PM
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We don't care about men who can't be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:53 PM
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Smv is comparative value. Low value men would still be low value, in fact if anything removing all dependence of earning power, removing any need for a father and all shame for non traditional family structures would men all women could depend on the state So women would literally just pick the most attractive men, share them and even long term relationships and marriages would have less sex, and higher rates of divorce. Imagine if sex robots replaced women and they were indistinguishable, how f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:11 PM
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It's not sexist. It's just about different temperaments. Like think about how you've argued with your guy friends at some point, if you did that with a woman she'd be terrified. If your guy friends took as long to get ready or cried as much as an average woman or was as sensitive or emotional. These aren't bad things, but they are things that if a man did them would annoy you. Or how women are generally less direct. If you removed the natural male insticts to be more protective or patient with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:00 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:52 PM
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I am, I'm not in like the top one percent. The average person is pretty ugly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:48 PM
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Nothing to do with is a bit strong I would never have a close personal relationship, acquaintances, coworkers, would there be women who if they talked about a particular subject they knew about I'd listen to, yeah On the other side, women say men are insensitive, don't understand nuance, I think if you made it so no woman had to interact with a man and there was zero attraction most wouldn't Especially is said men aren't treating them differently because they no longer have any sexual or romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:59 AM
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I'm not saying women are bad are untalented, I didn't expect a negative reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:46 AM
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I've been around women allot. They aren't as fun to be around as my guy friends. I also don't have any really feminine interests so maybe that's it. I've known and interacted with allot of women, I've dated allot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:13 AM
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In my thirties have interacted with allot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:10 AM
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I think it might be a different reasoning. I'm not a chad but I'm above average, enough I get complimented on looks but not enough where I'm memorable based on looks when im in shape (my weight goes up and down) irl I fall into interesting fuck up territory. The only women who ever brought up marriage to me where rich. Now the thing is I don't care about money. And I'm not boring. So if you're a little bit of a rogue but not a complete asshole, and don't care about money I think that happens. Lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:45 AM
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I think those guys also might be inexperienced There is definitely a thing where a woman is hot or isn't hot in photos but in real life just is sexy. Like this girl I was with in photos nothing special but like all my guy friends wanted her, guys got in fights over her, I mean legitimatelly the sexiest I've ever encountered, can't explain it and it wasn't just me. On the flip side knew this girl who was almost model level hot, and if you met her in person no sex appeal. None. She didn't smell, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:29 AM
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I can't argue with that Unil you get old but enjoy till then
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:08 AM
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I've never been upset ugly women get laid. No guy I personally know has, but I'll take your word for it. Fuck every dude has fucked an ugly girl at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:03 AM
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I went on a few dates when I was in the best shape I've been and the woman was not pretty and the woman payed Honestly it feels fucking good, won't lie
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:58 AM
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And even then, like the way they approach those interests is very different. I'm also not saying they aren't talented. I am saying in regards to purely interpersonal reactions, yeah it's sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:57 AM
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I didn't know the gang rape part
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:53 AM
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Women overly define exploitative Allot of women call and older man just dating a younger women exploitative Men are visual looks for us is above pretty much every thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:42 AM
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I mean they are paying for meals because they want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:40 AM
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People care about an unattractive dude getting laid with attractive women casually
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:39 AM
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I didn't say no value but if it wasn't for sexual attraction I'd have close to no personal conversations with women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:37 AM
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I see nothing wrong with being crass I guess Like I've never called sex making love, or called it a beautiful shared experience. If it's consensual I see nothing wrong with being scummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:16 AM
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I mean he can't make himself un ugly? So his choices are Stay where he is not get an attractive woman Not stay, get an attractive woman As a guy losing my hair legit terrifies me and this is why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:14 AM
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Well first he's english the english talk about sex in disgusting ways. I generally don't hookup with local girls where I go but I've never talked about sex as a shared experience. Now I'm really perhaps overly sensitive to the idea of buying sex but I don't think being crass in an of itself makes him a sex tourist. But yeah eastern europe does have those weird dudes and allot of them are annoying and have nothing else to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:09 AM
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I think for some people causal sex in exotic places is part of the adventure. I mean I'm not a sex tourist but living this life and occasionally getting casual sex or at least sex not in an ltr adds to the adventure. Nothing is permanent, that is the joy of rootless living. Going places, eating things being around people and seeing places you will mostly never be around again. Leaving feels as good as arriving. He could just as easily move permanently to Thailand or insert other cheap but livabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:05 AM
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Kind of I guess shrugs I mean if I wanted kids, being a mother to my kids and a homemaker
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:59 AM
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Allot of people wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:46 AM
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I don't think he does it only for that. I've been to many of the same places and I don't put allot of time or energy into getting laid but I go cause A it's cheap and B it's an adventure Bald makes his money online, travelling to where he does and staying in hotels, eating out is way easier if you can earn a stronger currency and be in an economy that favors that also you find adventures those places. I've always dated other internationals, not really locals. I don't think he does it for the sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:45 AM
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Why is the amount of effort scummy? I assume they don't get a hookup "out of their league". Also I'm not saying talking. Basically uglier guys are seen as meant to be sweet. The fact he's travelling and having sex adventures while travelling because he isn't attractive is seen as gross. Especially cause the women are attractive. I'm an expat and I've travelled allot, and see a really classically good looking guy having sex in Belarus is seen as cool or adventurous, the same guy if they look like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:34 AM
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Honestly women who are high n if they care about their own interests should lie, and many do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:31 AM
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We think very differently. Even if we have similar personality traits its often easier to be around a guy cause you express things the same way. Also with women you always have to hold back. You jokes aren't quite as dark, your views aren't quite as savage, you bite your tongue, she isn't as funny as your friends, she's picky, they are a little more needy. All these things. Even if it's not you want to fuck her directly you take away that extra tenderness you feel towards a woman, that extra lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:26 AM
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Actually like eugenics it's dismissed not because it's claims are false but rather belief in its claims cauae harm. Biology is sadly the major factor in who we are but really this is the difference. BPers believe 1 women and men are fundamentally the same 2 that a situation can be greated where things are better for both, that what is good for one is good for the other So fields that challenge this are dismissed i.e. Evo psych however fields equally disputable or more like sociology are not. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:20 AM
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This. I want to be objectified. I don't want to be loved. Fuck me, want me, but don't want me forever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:11 AM
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Honestly this is kind of true. If you took that away, I don't think I'd ever interact with women in the first place. Not like I'd dislike them. It would just be complete apathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:09 AM
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Women hate unattractive men who have sex outside of relationships. I think it's a very subconscious reaction. They don't even hate gold diggers. They have a line between providers of resources and providers of non intimacy based sex. Bald got sex, without strings. Maybe a little bit of gold digging but not that much so women find him disgusting, the same way they say its disgusting for men they consider providers/intimacy level to just want sex. Did he do anything wrong, I don't know but I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:07 AM
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The pax romano actually included allot of frontier conflicts, the Italian Renaissance lots of interstate warfare, the enlightenment was an age of revolution and European conflicts. The roman empire did not fall apart due to emperorial overreach, the factors were many but larger was a legitimacy crisis, failure to act in a timely manner against Atilla in the west. The classical greek age also included huge amounts of warfare and conflict. If we are going to talk about other collapses well the Bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:55 PM
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Actually in practice no, if you look at most empires and civilizations they weren't peaceful and usually had large standing armies Modern warfare relies on incredibly specialised roles and a huge amount of technology originates from the defense industry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:43 PM
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You know we disagree but I enjoyed talking to you. If it makes you feel better you're probably more enjoyable to have a beer with than a lot of redpillers. While I don't agree with you I do respect you made something of yourself despite your past and not depending on someone else. I think our debate has been distilled to its main points though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:05 PM
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The hardest part of life is not emotions. The hardest part of life is pulling yourself up by your boot straps. I mean if you look at world leaders it clearly also doesn't show sound judgement of the world's people we have a man with dementia in the white house if you haven't noticed. I will say a woman without dementia would be better. Or that there are exceptions to the rule. Margaret Thatcher was a good leader. Along with Reagen some of the better of the modern era. Just like you have weak men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:52 PM
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I run my own business, and in the past worked free lance and I don't talk politics on the clock. Not counting various shit jobs. I haven't said anything hateful. I said women and men are different. I haven't advocated the law treating them different. I have said women tend to enjoy domestic work more. We have a thing called the constitution and it seems the current supreme court respects it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:40 PM
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I could say your upbringing explains your world view if we're going to psycho analyize. You hate capitalists and men because of your father. I doubt your reasoning is just that. It's sort of an ad hominem attack, I was also raised an atheist and I haven't embraced god. Some of their views stuck with me as they seemed to make sense. I know what a cop out being a self made man, instead of crying poor poor unfair world, I will be a failure because of an unfair system, which is not a cop out at all.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:24 PM
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Yes and with capitalism I am very fine with some suffering and some rising above. If I would have to trade never having that to known poverty being all things together well off in the end, to us all being equal and there being socialism. Well it was more than worth it. Yeah if we wanted trade awful parenting stories I'm sure I'd win. I know plenty of people who can beat us both. Yes anyone can parent, not everyone does parent. Not doing a skill is not the same as not having a skill. I could wash…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:51 PM
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I'm not struggling now. I've had to live in apartments filled with vermin, places that if they were jail houses I'd probably have a successful law suit on my hands. I have no shame about having it relatively easy now. Let me put it this way its difficult but anyone can do it, a man can do a traditional pre modern woman's job, although he will enjoy it less than a woman would, but a woman cannot do a premodern man's job. It is difficult unskilled non hazardous labor. Let women contribute women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:28 PM
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Have you ever tried any type of combative sport, fighting is extremely hard. Against someone who knows what they are doing. Hunting and stalking without fire arms, navigating, all very hard stuff. You also add in pre industrial physical labor and craftsmanship, try making your own bow, stalking an animal, without modern gear, and hunting it while also avoiding being hunted yourself. Kissing babies and tucking in children boring, unstimilulating but not difficult. Dominance is mastery but you see…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:11 PM
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We oddly partially agree The difference is you consider nurturing the important part and id consider in such a pre modern society hunting and fighting and organization the important. Those are the big decisions, strategy, governance not day to day life. What is the long term plan. And that's the natural difference, you gravitate towards that. I disagree on the communal part. You have to know which kid is yours and imprint your values and name on to it. A child is an extension of your own beliefs…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:54 PM
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You hated wearing a suit and tie but most guys also like being in a good suit Women may hate the chore of makeup but they like wearing it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 11:50 AM
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I also said without talent Yes it punishes the below average person as society should Why should an unskilled person get more they are the most replaceable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 11:45 AM
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I mean I doubt either of us are gonna convince the other. You've never been a man. I do think women are happier in traditional roles. I hear women say all the time feminism will make men happier how is this any different? I do know I would be horrified if my kids were non traditional and I'd know I failed as a parent. I'm sorry but I think the majority of human history and human society does show there is a natural order. I've been poor, capitalism benefits people born rich the most, it punishes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 11:10 AM
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I disagree yes violence is a part of human nature. The glory of things like the roman empire were worth all of its blood shed. Peace is not a pillar of civilization. Technology and hyper specialising is what makes a civilization. Hierarchy is another sign, uncivilised tribes tend to be more horizontal not less. And even then the informal hierarchy of great men over less, or certain men getting more woman. This runs deep. So what generates happiness or hedonism or even well being of the masses is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 10:19 AM
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I dated a girl who never cried she still needed way more emotional support than a dude. She acted tough. All women I've meet need more emotional support than an average man. Women need to feel loved, men need to feel admired.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:27 AM
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For most of human history successful mean either had harems or cheated. I would expect successful men to have multiple partners. Average men to have one. Below average men to have none or a girl who cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:25 AM
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This wasn't spoon feed to me. I was a communist, I was rasied a leftist. I have studied anti colonialism, I have a grad degree for a very leftist leaning department. I know more about leftism than most actual leftists. I am not a conservative out of ignorance, hearltessness perhaps. I'll add I'm not purely American conservate, I'm not a Christian, I don't have Christian values (I don't value altruism, I agree more with pre Christian greco-roman values). I think American conservatism is the best …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 09:21 AM
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You're assuming seeing and being exposed to it means I wilk think it's good. Nope, the proper way to do things is the American conservate way. And capitalism is the way things need to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:21 AM
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I've actually lived around the world including socialist countries so yes I am aware of "different" ways of doing things
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:22 PM
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People don't just have careers for materialism, it can be because of ambition, because of the challenge of something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:17 PM
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Why would you prefer a woman with just a job Odds are she's not very intelligent, or educated Career women aren't these monsters, fuck I'm a traditional guy and I've never found a career woman to be a ball buster to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:10 PM
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Over the long term it raises the standard of living for everyone It raises in the short term the standard of living for most Also I am not an egilatarian, we are not all equal and those we do not all have equal access to resources The inequality of capitalism is a feature not a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:07 PM
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Scandinavian has some of the highest rates of depression Capitalism over the long term raises standards of living Countries with the highest rates of patent creation are capitalist
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:51 PM
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One method of lineage I love this, why don't you want to raise someone else's kids, with your wifes last name, that's so strange. Insert normal thing, call normal thing strange, insert non conventional alternative I love this let me make the normal seem bizarre, because I'm a member of western civilization and that's how western civilization works and I don't want to make my actions be those that my ancestors would be shamed for You know loyalty, being loyal to tradition, probably doesn't mean a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:07 PM
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No all sorts of reasons including but not limited to progressive social policy, capitalism is one of the few things holding it together
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:04 PM
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Any reason lineage is important, you know that thing people have cared about for the sum total of human history
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:02 PM
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No that's "progressivism"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 08:00 PM
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You mean society breaking down and sky high suicide rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:58 PM
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Doing more work doesn't mean more information Women are only interesting to women, like I said women like mundane and emotional topics. The patriarchy is human nature, ending it would be like getting geese to stop flying south for the winter. It's hard wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:27 PM
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Eh I don't like peace and tranquility, but I don't want constant drama either. You want an exciting chick who acknowledges you're the man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:18 PM
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Nature men are better at the more exciting things generally and enjoy housework less than women Also it is comparatively few. Nature isn't fair Doing house labor means nothing in the context of who leads, in an office the janitor probably does more work than most employees does that have a bearing on leadership, is a farm hand more knowledgeable about running a farm than the gentleman farmer. The world is not fair and is not even optimally run according to fairness. Effort and labor does not equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:07 PM
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And those few of you who hate it don't have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 07:00 PM
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Women on the whole enjoy that stuff more. They like playing with babies why they naturally enjoy playing with dolls as kids across cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:55 PM
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I'm unvaccinated and yes of course
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:50 PM
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