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As I see it a lot of right-wing groups adopt men's issues as a reactionary impulse similar to the rise of All-lives matter movements as a reaction to BLM. The way to test this is in conversation show appreciation for their desire for positive action and then investigate whether and how they are making efforts to propose solutions for the problems they identified. I had a conversation with an All-Lives-Activist once where I discovered that they were only concerned with foetus lives and the lives …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/24 09:30 AM
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Yeah that's right. I think some people misplace anger a bit and say that feminism is the root of all evil but I just think it's more that as a society we have outgrown feminism. I have a lot of resources and history discussing feminism throughout history which isn't perfect but is something whilst my own brothers don't have anything for their own. Often they are given feminism as a catch all solution when it isn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 12:41 AM
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I see what you mean and agree with pretty much all of your reply I just want to be a little pedantic about this quote: > And that is why, even as a trans fem who dreams every day as passing as a woman, I cannot support feminism. I used to, before I woke up to the reality of its core tenants and sexist nature, but never again. I am becoming a woman, but I will always be an anti-feminist. I think the issue isn't so much just feminists or feminism but the fact that we have outgrown the need for a f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/24 12:16 PM
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From my perspective your statement isn't necessarily untrue but very heavy charged and I'd like to expand on that through contrasting our perspective specifically based off your comment not necessarily the OPs post. My understanding is that statements and teachings of feminism become flawed because only one aspect is addressed during adolescence and doesn't evolve throughout adolescence. In my experience adolescence is when the gender battle is the most intense. Everyone is hormonal. Everyone is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/24 11:09 AM
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Its mostly an outdated quote that derives from the integration of men and women in the work force. A fun catch fraise of sorts that was once useful in other historical contexts but cannot be affective in the current reality. We have evolved quite a lot since the first introduction of this type of language but the language itself may not have necessarily evolved as well. Think of it like trying to cure COVID with a home remedy from the 60's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/24 10:25 AM
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Yeah. I'm a woman and I see how this is exactly what I meant when all people men and women are too used to demonization tactics. People forget that their perception of new information is often influenced by older experiences I.e. bias. Really it's just a waist of time to be so caught up in a competition when these real issues keep happening. Its not worth arguing who is affected more or a perpetrator more to win the underlying game of who is more oppressed. I don't want to just pick a side to fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 07:08 AM
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I myself am a women who is the primary emotional support for my younger brother who is 10 years old and am learning about mens issues to help him. Our situation and identity is very different with one thing in common and that's a struggle to find a place in male-advocacy considering the contrasting experiences and teachings. My advice is to take new information as an addition to what you already know not an argument to override that. Not something that will disprove your understanding out right …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 06:59 AM
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Yeah it's not great. I understand that often a repeated pattern of negative experiences cause people to develop hate for other people, at times specific demographics of people like groups of women who hate men and groups of men who hate women. But there's a point where people get so carried away they become hypocrites. Its not criticism it's just prejudice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 06:15 AM
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It just bothers me that so much of discussions around statistics comes down to a weird competition. People tend to take these things at face value with a sort of "aha gotcha" attitude or an "I told you so" attitude. People are too attached to demonization tactics and often don't realise the hypocrisy. I once had someone tell me that men may have stalker ex-girlfriends but that's nothing compared to women with their killer ex-boyfriends. Makeing it an us vs them or those people vs those other peo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 05:58 AM
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I was thinking much more about the old fashion women had no vote at all but with what you describing comes down to the lack of awareness and understanding for mens issues even amongst men and the flaws in how we approach women's. Edit: I just didn't fraise it to exactly what I meant the first time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 07:04 AM
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Thanks, I try to take in people opinions and perspectives as additional information for me to use rather than something to debate. Take what a person has said and expand on it to include both are perspectives. People are more receptive that way to new information. "I see what you mean..." Is something I say a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 02:47 AM
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I see what you mean but I don't think it's as simple as matriarchy vs patriarchy and I think it's time to start fazing out these kinds of terms because it implies a 'them vs us' or 'those peoples' fault which usually now its more like everybody's fault especially knowing that it's derives from a full cycle of prejudice going back and forth. Also patriarchy is most accurately used when describing the gender divide is implemented by gender based laws like voting and the dominance of men in leaders…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 02:25 AM
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I see what you mean but there's also the fact that misogynistic insults often have much more history. The male version of Bitch would be Barstird but in use they don't really have the same impact. Bitch when used as a slur by a man is a slur for a woman meaning a crazy untamed women. But terms like incel is much more specific in it's impact being it's usually about men with the implication of sexual inexperience as both the cause and the result of their actions. There are also people who self id…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 02:12 AM
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I see what you mean but I don't think it's quite that simple. Most people have a decent understanding of autistic children but not so much autistic adults and recent online conversation has focused more on adult women as I see. A lot of people don't recognise an autistic person in public unless they have a caregiver. Without a caregiver people are inclined to follow a survival instinct that senses adult autistic men as creepy, rather than considering any alternative. Although I think it's a more…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 01:50 AM
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Had to google ad-hominem but it think it sounds like you mean people think they give insults thinking it's criticism. But mostly I think I agree with what you said I just got a little lost in your explanation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 01:39 AM
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I think OP like many others feel it's hard because sometimes the things an "incel" would say come across as childish and reactionary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 03:18 PM
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The risk at believing they deserve to be insulted would be to confirm a belief they already had and solidifying it in their motivations for future behaviour. They probably also believe some women deserved to be insulted as a poor reaction to something but ultimately, I understand its normal to act first think later which applies to everyone. Basically, feelings are valid but it's worth recognising a cycle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 03:10 PM
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I don't think it's an exact replacement as incel is dominantly used as an insult for men who like the other words you described. Which I imagine is something you already recognise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 02:59 PM
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I see how masculism is real but it still doesn't seem equal in a marketing way and without much history in use publicly and within the media like how feminism is. Anyone would recognise feminism but masculism often needs and explanation like to clarify that it's really not just anti-feminism or the perfect opposite of feminism based off many feminist teachings or is not necessarily conservative in nature as many view feminism as one of the many core progressive ideologies. I had an extra '-ni-' …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 02:20 PM
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I think that it comes from the difficulty to navigate men's issues and sexism in the modern era especially for those going through adolescence. Because deconstructing men's issues and men's sexism isn't as marketable as feminism, already obvious with how there is no equal catch term like "masculinism." What it seems right now is that validating and supporting men's experience often comes in an incel, red pill, alpha-wolf, Andrew Tate package. They enter the space and share their struggles. Altho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 05:29 AM
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I don't think it's as simple as flipping the script. Mens sexism is not the same as women's sexism but in reverse. Barbie movie was really good for what it was and all you could expect from a comedy movie and it very much is a one sided perspective. Its time to start acknowledging the flaws in feminism as well because there are some feminist teachings within feminist communities that are quite hypocritical in nature. Like I learnt from the comments that "toxic masculinity" is an inherently sexis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 01:45 AM
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When the social narrative sets up an "oppressor" and "oppressed" dynamic people tend to overlook that the potential "oppressor" would ever need a good role model and I specify animated films especially of the Disney-Pixar-Dreamworks variety because they would have the most impact on young children. The role model would be someone who has experienced the emotional journey themselves, learning about their prejudices grow from that. Something children would very much benefit from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 03:05 PM
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I see what you mean. The whole Disney Princess line up is a marketing ploy to present a community of united feminist female role models but there is no equivalent for men. Disney isn't too bad but it could be better. I was thinking about my experience in highschool when we wrote essays about sexism and they where always feminist centric. It was easier to come up with talking points about female stereotypes and sexism but much of the male stereotypes and sexism discussed also came from a female p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 08:36 AM
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I plan to make another post like a follow up of sorts that incorporates what I learnt from these comments. I still agree with my own claim but with very different arguments. Which was something I expected to happen and why I posted in the first place. I don't think that we need more representation of men in animated film that explores sexism just for the benefit of men. That came from how I as a woman expected what men and boys needed. But rather For everybody's benefit. Because of the lack of m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 07:09 PM
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Okay so I see that breaking a stereotype as I originally described wouldn't necessarily be any benefit but that still leaves room for exploration of sexism as something experienced. Men and boys do experience sexism but I don't see much awareness or understanding of how in these animated films. From the parents I've seen they accidentally give the implication that boys should be ashamed for their sex because of the internal stereotypes or hypocrisies within their own subconscious. Perhaps explor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 05:09 PM
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I think a lot of issues derive from people identifying with their political views and beliefs. When people do that it loses a sense of freedom to explore alternative perspectives and continue growing but rather becomes a task of "defending ones honour". I've never been a feminist personally. A lot of my beliefs align with some teachings of feminism but for me feminism is not something to follow like religion which not all but some do and don't realise. I'm a little lost on the difference between…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 03:33 PM
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That's really cool and seems like something I already align with. It just haven't come across this info before and am not really the target of hate for a "rad-femme" but I do recognise it as an issue knowing they would have a negative impact on people I know in my life like my brother's. I guess I just shouldn't underestimate the impact of a sub- population. The person I originally responded to did not seem recognise them as a sub-group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 03:19 PM
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I really like you comment. As a women I'm less likely to immediately recognise the the detriments of this term but I totally see your point. Really I should have used positive masculinity and I didn't because it's not something I'm as familiar with and yeah they are not perfect opposites. In that case I still see that there are many positive male role models they just aren't at the forefront of the discussion of sexism. Its rarely explicitly stated they are challenging sexism and its often a B-p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 02:46 PM
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A good decent example I thought of is in the movie Frozen. Anna first falls in love Hans, man she just meets who turns out to me a villain using her for power but by the end of the movie she falls in love with Christoff instead who yes is sarcastic and a lone wolf at first, he is much more supportive and honest with her as an equal and a romantic partner. Good male models exist but are just not at the forefront.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 02:17 PM
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I think you are speaking more of a sub-group of feminists. The type of feminist you are speaking of are definitely real who empower women and put down men at the same time but not everyone. Plus in many of the examples I gave the villain or person upholding stereotypes involved both men and women. Merida was told to be ladylike by her mother, and her father was more accepting of her aspirations. He gifted the bow to Merida in the first place. Mulan had to for full the duties of a woman and marry…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 02:03 PM
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The lack of good representation for boys doesn't just affect boys. Like I mentioned it affects everyone a boy will ever have to interact with which is possibly any type of person in society. Without good representation how do women and girls recognise an emotionally mature man. The villain point is also sad. Gaston in Beauty and the Beast is a man who is kind to a women with the expectation she must love him in exchange and is owed that. He pursues her all the way up until he dies. Edit: I don't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 01:16 PM
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I think it mostly comes down to the individual who would use the term in that way. By doing so it seems to demonstrate prejudice rather than critical thinking. People forget that being "progressive" means constant change and growth. Being willing to have a conversation about the real points being made rather than overriding these points based off the assumed motivations. From my experience Radical Feminists, especially the ones that come across as misandrists, are a sub-group of feminists that h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 08:52 AM
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I like that this post explores the need to be clear and specific when using special terms. How Femicide and Androcide are technically equal in its definition but not it's use. By placing Intimate-Partner-Homicide under femicide, i.e. using it synonymously, then while trying to discuss issues that from a statistical standpoint often affect women more, perhaps the minority of men who are affected get excluded completely and that is not worth the payoff. Describing Intimate-Partner-Homicide as if i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 08:29 AM
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So, I had a discussion with my brother about the difference in the male and female gaze. Myself 20F. Essentially gaze in this context means what a person finds attractive, and it isn't necessarily romantic/sexual attraction. I think its information you would find very useful. As I myself am a woman it is best to describe the female gaze. The female gaze is not a flat rate attraction. I call it "The princess and the frog effect." The basic story involved a princess who kisses a frog. She isn't at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:37 PM
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Forgot to mention that 20% younger than 27 is 21.6 years old. Not very comforting but at that age definitely not a highschooler, maybe about to finish Uni/college and if you're from the US you can go drinking at bars together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:08 PM
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My credentials = My parents are 28 years apart in age and Dad didn't marry or have kids prior. Yes and no. Age gaps have a range of appropriateness. It seems the only factor taken into consideration is sex which such a dependency on one factor creates an unstable relationship. General life experience matters such as education, drinking socially and independent living. So, no 27 and 19 is not compatible. I think it's best to look at age gaps based off % difference with a maximum difference of 20%…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:02 PM
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