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"Hate's as good a thing as any to keep a person going. Better than most." -The Hound
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 02:20 PM
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My guess is that many of them are in a fragile mental/emotional state and are being exploited for it, while some others may be corrupted degenerates who get off to this kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:12 AM
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Promiscuous people generally have low self-esteem and/or other issues, which makes them unreliable. It's just not a good idea to get involved with one long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:02 PM
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Degeneracy of this sort is propagated by narcissists and enabled by morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:19 PM
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Or because they are just trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 03:36 PM
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People here are really overthinking it. The real reason is that it is simply an easy, convenient, and potentially effective way to attack someone (depending on the listeners/recipient of the attack). That's really all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:20 AM
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"The second half of a man's life is made up of nothing but the habits he has acquired during the first half." -Fyodor Dostoyevsky
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:18 AM
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I do not know why so many MGTOW seem to have these stories of putting up with bad situations like that. If I ever got involved with a woman and she started acting like a brat, I would ditch her immediately.
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 08:19 PM
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Fuck your values Yep, that explains your depth of understanding on the subject. Good day.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 08:16 AM
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Just pay extortionate amounts of money to get a whiff of what most people get for free on the daily bro
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 08:01 AM
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Yeah, this is just getting repetitive at this point. You can pretend all you want to that one can voluntarily choose anything in theory, but in practice things are more complicated than that, and values can have more significance than you seem to think.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 07:46 AM
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As I said, my values are not something that I have any choice over, so the option to voluntarily go against them does not exist.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 05:02 AM
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Not all. Some people strongly adhere to their standards, no matter how desperate things get. This is especially the case when those standards may also incorporate actual moral values, such as in the case of being against prostitution for such reasons. And another thing is also pride. Even if you have no moral objections to it, the idea of subjecting yourself to the absolute humiliation and degradation of actually paying money for sex is something which a person who has pride in themselves would …
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 04:38 AM
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If your standards are strong enough, then you simply can not voluntarily go against them. So you can not get out of celibacy this way because the option is simply not there.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 11:57 PM
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Key word is standards.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 09:07 PM
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It is only healthy to have an attitude of hatred towards cheating. No sense in being friendly with someone who doesn't value trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 06:11 AM
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Definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 04:11 PM
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And then they wonder why young people seem to be having less sex these days. When the mass media shovels shit like this in people's brains, of course people are going to be put off and less likely to even bother. Not everyone is okay with this environment of nihilistic degeneracy and some will be inclined to distance themselves, if the bullshit spewed by the media ends up getting to them.
/r/MGTOW224/09/20 02:48 PM
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Yeah, but some are particularly vulnerable. Unstable, no self-respect, ridden with doubt, anxiety and insecurity, looking for someone else to put their life in order and be their messiah (which goes about as well as you'd imagine). Only this level of idiot would actually be threatened by red pill tactics, as any normal person would quickly walk away if you tried something like dread game or whatever. Instead of exploiting the minds of such people and cultivating a disgusting culture of degenerac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 07:31 PM
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The red pill is a heap of garbage which only appeals to issue-ridden imbeciles who can't see past their own confirmation bias. The magnitude of their failure is so grand that it makes it impossible for them to relate to the normal world outside of what the red pill describes, so the extent to which they can understand and interact with the world is limited to the smaller, flawed part of it that the red pill instructs them to know and interact with. Any sane person knows to steer clear of that cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 05:06 AM
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Probably gives them a sense that they're "contributing" to someone's life and they're "part of" something. Loneliness has reduced them to total doormats. Some may also be sick fucks who get off on promoting degeneracy.
/r/MGTOW226/08/20 06:14 AM
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What a sad mindset to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 10:28 AM
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Maybe you could try doing it in complete darkness, slow and gentle, with someone that you can trust more than the average person and can relax around with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 07:47 AM
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I don't, I'm just pointing out what I see. Speaking of, I also seem to recall you saying that you used to hang out with a fascist crowd at some point... but that too might have been you simply LARPing I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:25 AM
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Was it? You also recently said you're pro-death penalty for those accused of treason. Doesn't sound very liberal to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:39 AM
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lol to be fair, you did use to post on r/DebateFascism in your old account...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:42 AM
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The men of MGTOW obviously don’t have a good view of relationships. So I get why they are upset when an outsider comes in and tells everyone they are just coping. Then makes another post asking for personal information. I never "told" anyone they are coping. The only assertion I made was that harboring thoughts that all people are secretly unhappy in their relationships is an unrealistic way of thinking. Based on that assertion, I suggested that some people who exhibit this line of thinking migh…
/r/MGTOW201/11/19 09:30 PM
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Did you mean to say "elude"? No, it does not elude me. As I said, I am aware that what I said may upset some people, but I do not think the truth should not be spoken just because of concerns of "rudeness", especially in a subject such as this, where people might be ruining their lives with all this coping. But I guess my message somehow eluded you. Enjoy your Halloween.
/r/MGTOW231/10/19 08:44 PM
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I did start there. But some people are apparently too sensitive to any kind of criticism, becoming upset about "rudeness" as you did and missing the point. I simply called the truth as I saw it, rude or not, I saw that people might be coping and I said it. I tried to be as polite about it as possible, nothing more I could do about it besides not addressing the topic at all, and if I censored myself and did not speak my thoughts just because some people might become upset, then the discussion wou…
/r/MGTOW231/10/19 08:16 PM
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This is the kind of healthy attitude I would have hoped to see more of. No ill feelings towards relationships, just going your own way for your own personal reasons.
/r/MGTOW231/10/19 06:25 PM
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Those are not common occurrences, or at least not common enough to disavow relationships altogether. Stop with the confirmation bias and try to focus on the good cases as well. You may find it's not as bleak out there as you're painting it in your mind.
/r/MGTOW231/10/19 06:20 PM
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The only thing I disagreed with was the claim that everyone out there is secretly unhappy in their relationships. The proposition is ridiculous. I don't have a problem with MGTOWs - as long as they do it for their own reasons, and don't claim all the other people out there are losers for not having the same approach to relationships as them. Go your own way and let other people go their way too. Why do some MGTOWs have such a strong reaction to the suggestion that people out there are not, in fa…
/r/MGTOW231/10/19 06:17 PM
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These "answers" were what prompted that post, not the other way around. I tried to approach this subject in as polite a manner as possible, but some people lost their shit at the mere suggestion that they may be coping. So much for the "genuine, thoughtful, open discussion" this sub advertises. At least some people were cool and gave proper responses, though.
/r/MGTOW231/10/19 06:00 PM
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I must say I'm a little disappointed with the response of some members of the community here. At the risk of offending some people, I will say that the behaviour of some of the members of this community is unbecoming of men. Men are supposed to be pillars of civility, rationality, calmness, and other virtues such as those. Yet the responses of some people here would set an example completely opposite of all that. Shameful. My thanks to all who were rational and stayed on topic. Secure, strong, a…
/r/MGTOW231/10/19 01:26 AM
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is it possible that reality isn't what you think it is? And that everyone here having the same story doesn't necessarily make us wrong, but that possibly you're not aware of your own bias? Anything is possible, but that's not the point of this thread. I have more expansive projects and adventures requiring my time Interesting, care to expand on what those expansive projects and adventures are? How do they compare to the chemistry and excitement you talked about previously?
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 11:16 PM
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Finally some maturity. Thank you for your answer.
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 11:10 PM
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I don't mean for this to be another discussion about happy relationships, I just posted the impression that I formed here since my other thread got locked and I could not post it there. It's just my perspective, not supposed to challenge anyone or become a point of debate. This thread is only about the three questions that I posted. I am interested to see what everyone's background is and what leads people to become MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 11:09 PM
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Not the kind of thoughtful, genuine, open discussion about MGTOW and independent male life I expected.
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 11:05 PM
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If they seem convincingly happy and I don't see any evidence to the contrary, why would I suspect otherwise? Experience or no experience, suspecting that everyone must be secretly unhappy sounds like a paranoid way of thinking to me, possibly the result of an emotional necessity to justify the MGTOW life in one's own eyes. It would be hard to be a MGTOW if one believed that there exist better alternatives, after all. And I'm not a "concern troll". I simply stated my personal opinion, which was n…
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 10:58 PM
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But you don't exchange any of these things if you're in a good relationship, though. It only happens if you make a poor choice in a partner. If anything, a good relationship can actually be beneficial for your health, stability and growth. Don't look only at the bad cases, there's plenty of people for whom their relationship is a good deal for them, and they have found happiness with their families and their lives. Would you not prefer to number among them rather than be MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 09:34 PM
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How did your coworker respond?
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 09:03 PM
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It doesn't have to be this way. There are women who are better than that out there, why not try to find one of them?
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 09:02 PM
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I think you're exaggerating a bit. Sure, relationships are not permanent honeymoon, and they do have their challenges, but I think that's actually part of the beauty of it, provided the partners value each other and are interested in keeping their relationship together. Now of course there are some people who can't stand each other and end up breaking up, but there are many others who get along well and form good relationships. Wouldn't you want to be in one such relationship?
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 08:51 PM
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No offense, but that sounds like a cope. Come on, not every relationship is a mess of cheating, dishonesty, animosity, dead bedrooms, divorce rapes, etc. Some people, a lot of people actually, seem to have it pretty good, or at least good enough to stay with their partners and make families with them and live their lives together. Do you not think that living in that kind of a relationship might be better than living on your own as a MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 08:42 PM
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It's just a troll sub. Or at least, I hope it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:47 PM
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I would guess unattractive people, due to being more insecure and more needy of validation, which also makes them more susceptible to being manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 04:59 PM
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I think it's best not to ascribe to any ideologies. Read for information, but keep an open mind, and learn trough your own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:54 PM
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https://youtu.be/Vk89gnrgO4A?t=20
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 05:10 PM
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That sounds a bit paranoid. Most people probably don't even know what the red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 07:50 PM
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Didn't you use to post about wanting a traditional relationship? What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 06:38 PM
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"The cruel twists of fate are unkind to the misfortunate." -James Eagan Holmes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 11:57 AM
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Hey, I might be able to provide some evidence to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:04 PM
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Maybe you just need to expand your horizons
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:01 PM
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This is the guy https://www.reddit.com/r/puahate/comments/bpa4nc/rollo_tomassi_balding_high_pitched_shakey_voice/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 07:19 PM
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Settling already is a price in itself. I have to wonder if it's really lower than the price of taking a risk. Regardless, even if some people do adopt the kind of mindset you described, I still don't think they would replace humans with sex bots, as interactions with the latter probably wouldn't provide much in the way of fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 09:41 PM
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Well, patterns can change. And if they lead to a future that is not viable, they likely will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 10:48 PM
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Okay, if people stop caring about each other and stop caring about their interpersonal relationships, what exactly will be left to motivate them? What will the people of the future be living for? How will a society even work if noone cares about anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 10:41 PM
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Why do you keep saying sex bots will become a substitute for women? I'm no expert on the subject, but I was under the impression that relationships are about more than just carnal pleasures, about things like intimacy, cooperation, companionship, etc. How will bots replace people when they can't offer those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 10:07 PM
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No, I'm just a lurker. I just happened to know a bit about HSW/TGL and I thought I'd try to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 08:29 AM
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Hello. Unfortunately, HappilySingleWoman/[deleted] has deleted both of her accounts for some unknown reason. If you still want to contact her, she is currently active on reddit under another account, /u/[deleted]. Hope this helps, ~IncelandrosOfAthens, a friendly lurker.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:51 PM
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