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How has this information helped you in the dating scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:48 AM
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Don't listen to pill people, they refuse to leave their echo chambers where they claim, "woe is me, I can't get a woman because they're crazy" all while listening to shitty dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 09:39 AM
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I'm not sure what the question is, what is your actual goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:44 PM
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I've been reading and actively discussing on this sub for a while now and I really wonder: Why is it that the main things discussed here seem to be dating and sex, and not long term considerations of interactions between men and women? Because redpill turned from a men's issues hashtag to a subredditt for shitty dating advice many, many years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:25 PM
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That was the entire point of your comment, if you're saying that Perlman being wealthier means she'll get a better guy is a different point, then you need to realize that devito is also much wealthier from when they met, and wouldn't have an issue getting another, younger, more conventionally attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:18 PM
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Except they were about the same level of famous when they met, so your assumption that she got with him for the perks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:56 PM
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You don't swipe on grindr, that's what makes it preferable to guys, swiping was created for women, along with matching, it is not required to match on grindr, that being said it is for men seeking men, and trans. In practice they are completely different apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:36 AM
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Why do you think they're severely limited?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:45 PM
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I highly doubt you've seen grindr if you think tinder is based off grindr, either that or you've never seen tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:35 PM
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Danny Devito is married, and has children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:30 PM
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Sir, you chose to take it as an insult. But it did actually happen, rp truly was about legitimate issues in society related to men, and it was hijacked by people promoting shitty dating advice. Well I will have to disagree, from what I remember humanity throughout History and places seemed to be much more misogynist than any blue pill take would allow, Im calling bullshit on that one Being much more "misogynist" does not mean that there was no romance, nor that it didn't go through generations o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:12 AM
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First off, blue pill is not a thing, it's a term given by new red pillers to describe anyone who uses what should be common sense dating advice, backed by over 100 years of research, and 1000s of years of trial and error. Red pill was first a hashtag to show support for men's issues, then a subredditt for the same thing, one could even argue that it became a movement at some point. But somewhere along the way people like you started to think with your dicks, and turn something which had legitima…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:06 AM
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That's how how you get shit and rat poison in your sandwiches right there, pull your weight you lazy ass. I mean shit, if she's doing all the cooking and cleaning, you better be white washing that fucking house, mowing the grass, cleaning the gutters, playing with the kids, and checking the plumbing, cars, electric, etc. Cause ain't no women gonna squeeze that dick for a man-child.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:27 AM
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It's not controversial, get away from pill people, the majority know that exclusivity is confirmed, not assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:16 PM
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Well sir, your first mistake was listening to pill people, and you continued to make said mistake listening to FDS, don't ever compare these people to swans, they are river eels at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:02 AM
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Yes, it is wrong because you expect free food. The common people go Dutch these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:11 AM
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They take shitty dating advice, but they're not stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:49 AM
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Do you want children? Unfortunately that isn't something the market can provide yet for men, but you might be able to get a random woman pregnant if you are lucky from one of the variety of dating apps we offer! Upgrade to Premium if you would like to increase your matches. That's not technically true about the children You are not entitled to sex or relationships with anyone. These unnecessary, time-wasting interactions do not produce anything for the economy or generate shareholder value. Do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:59 PM
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I suggest you research more, and use appropriate sources such as an encyclopedia, because much of this is false, you are looking for enemies where there are none.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:06 AM
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No one's (I'm sure someone has but not that I've heard of) experienced pain penetrating someone, but the opposite is true in plenty of cases. Are you someone who simply lies there during intercourse? If not performed right it will certainly hurt. I suggest you research STDs individually, your statements are foolish, men are far more likely to catch an STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:59 AM
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If you stop using the value system of dating, then you'd get laid, or into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:47 AM
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Welcome to reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:45 AM
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This is best practice, and has been for thousands of years, people have always had multiple suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:20 PM
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As long as it takes, experience is the only way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:18 PM
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I think you got rejected and went to pill people for dating advice, just like the misandrist who goes to FDS for dating advice, and now you are seeking validation for the shitty dating advice you got.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:10 PM
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The real question is- Why are you looking for employee value in entertainment. Take a HR or management class.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't compare a lack of chemistry to "ick" which is a congealed sticky substance, and an algae that makes a fish disease. But yes, looking for chemistry is normal for relationships, though a hookup is a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:06 AM
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Because people see that exhaustion a mile away, men and women, and don't want to deal with it, if you feel like it's work to talk to someone, then why would you do it. Why would you expect the other person not to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 06:40 PM
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Varies
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:49 AM
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Nothing, keep totally separate accounts, rarely if ever cosign. There's really just no need, he should have immediately taken all money from the main account and placed it into a separate one specific to him. If you cannot live as simple roommates, you are not ready for the next part of your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:47 AM
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Have you tried a fashion or beauty sub? There are plenty of free things for your issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:42 AM
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Drop that value system and you might actually learn something
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:36 AM
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They don't have to, your premise is a sexist myth. You should also research your beliefs on religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:31 AM
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Of course pill people, rp, BP, fds, are obsessed with aging, they all use that damn value system that everyone else knows is worthless knowledge for actual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:27 AM
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Maybe you have never her books, her goals, you clearly never knew the things she actually did, or you just neglected to read my comment carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:21 AM
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Enough to know she'd be rolling in her grave thinking about how the laws on pornography she lobbied for are also helping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:18 AM
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Dworkinism does that itself, anyone can look in your comment history and see that your goals on FDS, and all similar pill subs are to stir the pot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:10 AM
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I see, yes I agree, the ideology is certainly unhealthy, they also see many things as constants, making it hard for them to criticize their own beliefs.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/21 06:17 PM
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No, if you're dating for the intended purpose of dating, then these questions are useless. Women have the same issue with standards, do not think that they never get rejected. Asking what the perfect person is is useless. You ask, what one's standards are, and what one is looking for, those are useful. If one is looking for perfect, or even close to perfect, then they're likely to wait dozens of years, likely never to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 01:41 PM
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You're right, I apologize. We've already commented on your post. Then I saw a questionable argument in your response, that, in your wording, is unrelated to the post.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 07:31 PM
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Your post specifically says "red pill and suicide" Then goes into how men need women.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 07:17 PM
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they feel like they will never be loved the way they wanted to be loved, and the shitty dating advice leads them down the path of bad relationships that appear to confirm that (or no relationships, which is worse).
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 06:57 PM
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I am male. And considering the redundant fds/trp "value" system, men definitely have hypergamous tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:33 PM
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The original point was to help guys get sexual success Calling this political is laughable Idk where you found that information, but it's false, that was never a core belief. MGTOW/Incel infestation that happened to TRP to make it shittier for example. I would ask you to scroll up once again and see that this thing started by someone else asking you for further explanation. I explained, and they did not ask any more questions. If anything I would be considered blue pill, when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:24 PM
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The whole original point of trp, was men realizing that they have it bad in certain areas of society, that is political; you are being nonsensical, you are making assumptions about my comment that were never written, and you're the only one who is asking for explanation. Oh please, redpill has gotten infested with more and more MGTOW/Incel types and the post quality has gone down more and more because of them. I would be very surprised if this has changed since i was last active on there. r/redp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:03 PM
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I've seen their dms, I've seen their snap, I've seen their dating profiles, we set up one another's dating profiles. But the pill idea that the "value" system is a constant, that hypergamy is a constant, is false, and complaining about other men validating women is not helping anyone catch a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:31 PM
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think your are having an English issue here, my statement on rp, was stated to be "Ah, yes, originally at least, and officially outside of forums and reddit and such" No i think my issue is that you completely avoided the question. Eloborate on how TRP is political, you have yet to do so. I won't hold my breath And again, If there is any "official" side of TRP then it the forums They've always been related, rp focused originally on men's issues, MGTOW focused on a solution, the hashtags were cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:12 PM
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That's not true though, that assumption is another reason why pill people should never give advice, always doomsaying based on unbased statistics, and no knowledge of actual practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:58 PM
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Why do you think there is no call for genocide among radical feminist, that's what this whole thread is about. Solanas mandated to kill all men, and mandated dehumanization of men with her writing, she outright dehumanized men in her works. The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things." -- Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas) Dworkin fear-mongered regularly using language implying support for genocide. Und…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:55 PM
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Explain in what universe this makes sense as a conversation I think your are having an English issue here, my statement on rp, was stated to be "Ah, yes, originally at least, and officially outside of forums and reddit and such" Hence the next paragraph is the original purpose of rp. They were most definitely not related, they have become more so but this relation is more like a venn diagram of overlapping circles. Your conversation is akin to asking someone about economics and getting an answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:35 PM
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-Hook up culture only thrives for women and high value men. -The average women won't look in the direction of an average guy. -Women don't want their equals or average. They want someone superior. -Young men are reporting the lowest amount of sex. -Young men are far more likely to be virgins than than young women And this has relevance to marriage statistics? You and I were never talking about the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:29 PM
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A clear false equivalency, no one debated the issues of women, there is a genocide going against women in the form of abortions particularly in India and China, or there was, china's policy has changed in the last few years I believe. But we're talking about men's issues right now, not women's, you try to do exactly what women complain about when men talk about men's issues after a woman talks about women's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:10 PM
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I'm not debating the statistics, just the practical use that pill people assume from the statistics, the "value" system, importance on hypergamy, the people drawn to pill culture are vulnerable men and women seeking genuine advice, not the politics that it's supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:06 PM
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The goal is to focus on men's issues, that's why there's several common posters, and commenters, myself included, who always say, never ever take dating advice from pill people. Red pill, not MGTOW They are, or at least were at first related. Which is why I mentioned MGTOW after that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:52 PM
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That's completely off topic. And no one said death camps are created, calling for genocide is what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:50 PM
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Again, how is any of that useful as practical advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:46 PM
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I did refute you, I refuted your very premise the "value" system that pill people and fds uses, it's a worthless system as practical dating advice goes. It's an excuse to avoid learning common sense dating, and an excuse to avoid the actual complexities of dating individuals. It encourages people to look at the "value" of individuals without common sense, most people just glance and say hot, or not. Dating requires risks, it involves rejection, you cannot look at someone and just assume their va…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:41 PM
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Sure I love spontaneous sex. Well not every person is like that. In my experience most aren't. So assuming it's true that women solely have the power in sex, just because you would never say no is not exactly a good argument. I have read what the experts say and they all agree that female sexual desire has seen a big drop from previous generations, as has sexual activity. They only disagree on the causes. I never said otherwise, this is common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:31 PM
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I did address your point, I said it is untrue, I told hypergamy is not a constant, and dating is far more complex. Attraction is also more complex, making generalizations is not good dating advice, because dating is about individuals, and all are different. And just because instagram isn't a dating site does not mean hordes of thirsty guys use it for that purpose. What exactly is your point here? I've never heard a single person give dating advice saying that going straight to messenger, or Inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:21 PM
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No, as I said, this information is useless, everyone already knows dating is intended for a long-term relationship, and that people in long-term relationships generally have more frequent sex. I mean, this was already common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:16 PM
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I'm 24. Instagram is not a dating site. Neither is Facebook. It is not best practice to seek women out in a place where it isn't welcome, same with men. because you can't compete with the guys who instead of being a high value top tier man in one small area is now a high value top tier man everywhere that has internet. If this is your belief, then you are a perfect example of why knowing about hypergamy is bad dating advice. Using the value, or tier system you'd know top tier men go only for top…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:10 PM
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I'm not anti-marriage, I'm very pro marriage. The data itself says a whole lot about marriage, and nothing significant about single people, which is why I'm saying it's worthless for dating advice. It's already well known that marriage, or an equivalent, is the goal of dating, that is common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:00 PM
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Have you ever spoken to a woman? Or are making assumptions from studies and just listening to pill people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:54 PM
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Would you say you'd drop everything if your SO wants sex while you're busy? Because the issue with these studies is that their value is not in practical dating or relationship advice, sex and relationship experts can make assumptions based on the knowledge, but that doesn't mean the studies themselves show practical use. The reason why we should listen to experts before making our own assumptions is because someone like you, for example, may see it as a constant without considering all the varia…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:52 PM
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Have you ever been on a dating site? Most women are not on them, these companies alot of times make false profiles on their own to make the male/female ratio closer. We can disagree on the extent to which this may happen but calling the phenomena BS and discounting it I would find entirely ignorant. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying anyone who believes hypergamy to be a constant has no common sense in practical dating, and the knowledge of hypergamy has no practical use in dating what…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:47 PM
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Well that's true for some, but not most, many want independent relationships today, relationship goals vary across all individuals. It should be true to the extent of not compromising religious or philosophical beliefs, of course those can be deal breakers for men and women before the relationship even starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:39 PM
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Have you ever actually been in a relationship? Did you experience this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:33 PM
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"Value" the sooner these people understand that such knowledge, and phrasing is absolutely worthless to practical dating knowledge, the sooner they'll actually get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:31 PM
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More RP bs, hypergamy is not a constant for any gender, your assuming women don't understand the concept of standards, which is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:29 PM
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They both decide, it has to be consensual. There are many situations where a woman has approached her man and the man is busy, not horny atm, etc. You don't have to have been in a relationship to understand this, both parties have to seduce and consent to sex when one wants it, and men do say no quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:17 PM
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Hookup culture is still thriving, and fwb situations are more common than marriage. They are not outliers to sex. This is an article about marriage. That's why this information is not useful to dating, there's nothing here that's not already common sense to learn from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:51 PM
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Well duh, but that doesn't make it the only way to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:24 PM
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Then you missed the premise, I already said that asking about what the job is is fine, just not prying, it was the first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:23 PM
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Sexless young men (18 to 34 years old) are substantially more likely to classify themselves as “never married,” and less likely to be married, than their sex-having peers. This assumes that you have to be married to have sex though. The whole premise is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:14 PM
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Men do not need to be loved by women to prevent suicide. It's very wrong of you to perpetuate that stereotypical myth.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 01:10 PM
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Men from a very young age focus their attraction on "high value" (another stupid pill people system) females. It's just the science behind standards and useless for practical dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:07 PM
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Because my job has nothing to do with me, or who I am. As I said it's one thing to ask about a job's existence or title, it's another to pry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:05 PM
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Yes, but it's useless for practical dating. Most people know it as common sense already, you don't bother focusing on it when finding a date.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 01:02 PM
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It's a high profile example. Yes, it is. Just because it's women doing it doesn't mean that they support women. They believe they support women, and have their own reasoning, women, like men are not a hive mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:00 PM
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It happens daily though, anytime a woman kills a man outside self defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:58 PM
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Adults don't do this though, if I were to you or anyone who isn't a coworker more than the name of my job, I'd have to explain so much that would go over their heads. That's most people too, if you go and start talking about the office it's a last date, if you try and sell your date a product you're not getting another date. I guess I'm just a square for this like hank hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:56 PM
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You should listen to her speeches, the woman was a man hating cliché.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:10 AM
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Also, RP teaches guys to go to the gym, be more social, approach a lot, dress a certain way, etc. It's kind of like the modern version of PUA. That's delusional, it started that way, but went far from its original purpose. Hypergamy isn't a useless concept. It actually can work very well when determining which women to date. After all, all women are hypergamous. Why waste one's time on a woman on your level or higher when she probably won't date you? No, knowledge of hypergamy is useless, men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:09 AM
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Did you ever hear her speak, she despised men as individuals and as a gender. It is clear with every word that her idea of equal rights was to enslave men, if not kill all of us. Men don't want what you say, another baseless accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 09:04 AM
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Pills don't teach anything, RP focuses on useless information like hypergamy that has zero practical use in actual dating. The rest are reactions and variations of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:58 AM
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Maybe that topic is why you've had so many first dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:56 AM
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Yes, I never said otherwise, I just said she'd hate that her policies help men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:54 AM
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Women are welcome to guns, most I know enjoy them, but my country in particular has a relationship with guns that makes your statement tyrannical. You know Hitler, polpot, the taliban, etc, all believe that they were doing the world good, had and have "studies" and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:50 AM
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No, the pills are nothing but politics, the people actually giving good dating advice don't allow their politics in, Dr Ruth Westheimer is a good example there. The advice on the pills is all the same, zero practical use, worthless, real advice is actually advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:47 AM
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Pro life state, and pro life organizations are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:43 AM
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Not real pro life people, and not most groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:41 AM
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Oh, of course so you can complete your genocide far easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:36 AM
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She helped push through policies giving pornstars more power in negotiating their contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:35 AM
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First off, women are subtle, any women who murders a man outside self defense did so for sexist attitudes. Secondly women are always given mental health considerations in these cases, men are not. You are proof that men are not given mental health considerations "SEXISM, SEXISM EVERYWHERE! IT'S ALL BECAUSE THEY HATE WOMEN!" That idea is ludicrous, and exactly what RP and MGTOW were supposed to be about, actually helping men, not just blaming on some sort of male hysteria and sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:34 AM
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Anything provides better information than pill people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:18 AM
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That's not true, they're a very small percentage of women and men, most people aren't idiots to take terrible dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:15 AM
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Why would you assume that I'm 15? How old are you to consider that young and not a child? You could be a heart surgeon for all I care, I don't want to sit there and talk about work, poor practice with friends or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:14 AM
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You are literally DEFENDING GENOCIDE!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:11 AM
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Who hurt you? Men do nothing as a group, when we try women freak out. have zero empathy for them and desire fundamentally to control them and their bodies. Your own gender did that in Texas, look into pro life groups, the majority of members are women. Stop blaming men for all your issues just because you saw a man sign the papers. Men don't give 2 fucks what women do, as I said above, it is not in the male gender's interest to be pro life, we don't have some hive mind out to get women. There ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:11 AM
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Why don't pro-life organizations call for the executions of a quarter of American citizens? If abortion is so obviously the murder of children, they should get a lot of support Because they're pro life, do you really think that just means abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:01 AM
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Talking shop still makes a bore in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:56 AM
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Don't get me started on dworkin, that incel would be rolling in her grave if she knew the policies she lobbied for were helping men right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:38 AM
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Idc what you've been taught, the writings speak for themselves. "The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things." -- Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas) "p. 138-9: The phallic malady is epidemic and systemic... each individual male in the patriarchy is aware of his relative power in the scheme of things.... He knows that his actions are supported by the twin pillars of the State of man - the brotherhood rit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:27 AM
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I am, it's still a red flag, and a dull af conversation, there's no reason someone couldn't wait until the second date to ask about properties and taxes, and wages, etc. Second date at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:59 AM
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Radical feminism isn't about genocide, it's about advocating for the interests of women which will always in some form deduce to going your own way, and it's about recognizing that men are not capable of the same. You want to tell that bs to Andy Warhol? They will always try and control women and their bodies, it is their nature to oppress women. Hmm, yes, Texas lawyers do their jobs following the majority beliefs on life in the state and lobbied by the pro life movement which is majority female…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:54 AM
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So 2 to 20% of men made you believe that you should genocide men, cause that's what radical feminism is. You realize women were the ones lobbying for the law right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:40 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 06:29 AM
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I have learned that the best answer for this question is that I won't know until I try it. Questions like this have little to no practical use in actual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:19 AM
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They know They just don’t like it and think we should do what benefits men Women do the same thing, btw Who do you believe doesn't like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:16 AM
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No, people who take advice from pill people often get terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:14 AM
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the assumption that everyone knows how each other works is baseless, there would not be a huge market for dating experts if you're assumption were true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:37 AM
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Maybe not the first three
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:35 AM
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Idk who you're talking too, but we ask about work all the time. Every man I know, myself included, networks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:31 AM
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I see both sexes chastising each other because pill people are led to believe that pill people give good dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:30 AM
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I don't think it's productive to mock
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 04:15 AM
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It's not related, it still gives a sense of meaning and belonging, and worth, despite shitty dating advice
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 04:12 AM
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I found his content bordering on blasphemous, and very erratic.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 04:09 AM
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That's a stupid notion, men friend zone women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:58 AM
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That is not true of most men, it depends on their relationship goals, which vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:55 AM
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This is why I've said before that it is a major red flag when women ask about the profession before the second date, it shows that they are not there for an independent relationship. Now asking if we have jobs, and if we live on our own is not a red flag, that is a reasonable deal breaker particularly for middle aged people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:53 AM
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That probably wasn't the only reason, but it's a common deal breaker for men and women both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:49 AM
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See, that "hypergamous" thing is BS, men by nature are also hypergamous, knowing about it has zero practical usage in actual dating. Making hypergamy an issue at all shows how bad dating advice from pill people is, and in rp, it shows that their common assumption is that women don't know how standards work, which is untrue, and terrible dating advice.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 03:33 AM
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Because it left its original goal of men's rights, health, etc, and became a place for bitching, whining, and bad dating advice.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 03:27 AM
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You realize that the entire western patriarchy is, and always was gynocentric, right? Also, there are artificial wombs, and egg donors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:20 AM
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Because smart people don't take dating advice from pill people, that "value" system has no practical usage whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:17 AM
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I don't think so, not when you're worried about you life, your property, men invented society and philosophy after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:15 AM
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Good chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:02 AM
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But we do know, women do the same thing, and it's quite frustrating, we end up doing circles in our heads wondering why she didn't just go, why bother being nice, wondering if it's us or them, wondering what we did wrong, etc. So we do know, I'd even argue that women do it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 03:01 AM
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I also feel that you should stay away from all men, at all times, and seek professional help for your sexist and harmful beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:54 AM
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You should stay away from all men, and seek professional help for your beliefs, this belief is sexist, and harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:52 AM
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Only after the tokens come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:50 AM
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I've said it many times, there are tons of places for better dating advice for men and women than pill people. Dr Ruth Westheimer Dr John Gottman Russell Brand Sue Johanson Etc. Self help books by the above experts. Any other self help books Any books at all that aren't related to pill politicking Google Dating sites give advice now Life Coaching Regular experience (rip the bandaid off) r/dating_advice r/dating Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:48 AM
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Ceremony and reception is interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:36 AM
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No, Dr Ruth Westheimer in particular helps many singles. She literally wrote a road map to dating, and mostly talks about general understanding, Johanson of course is all about sex, and masturbation. Dr Ruth on her show advising a single virgin for example: https://youtube.com/watch?v=A_RCKRgLCJM&feature=share Now if you're talking gender politics, which is not what the OP was posting about, that's a bit different. Mostly what people want is mutually exclusive in gender rights, and privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:21 AM
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Ok, well that's your own limitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:05 AM
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What exactly are you trying to say here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:55 AM
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Why would you want someone to rely on you? No one wants an adult child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:53 AM
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Not really, the existence, and advice of sex and relationship experts like Dr Ruth Westheimer, and Sue Johanson prove that many really don't understand men. The Bible is poorly translated, to most languages, theologians constantly debate meanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:51 AM
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Ah, yes, originally at least, and officially outside of forums and reddit and such. The goal is to focus on men's issues, that's why there's several common posters, and commenters, myself included, who always say, never ever take dating advice from pill people. MGTOW is meant to literally give men non traditional belief systems that aren't gynocentric "patriarchy", be it modern beliefs, or older ones like stoicism. The problem is the forums and subredditts are flooded with vulnerable people seek…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:48 AM
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On which?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:29 AM
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I don't think you know what that means. I am not being defensive, and you did not accuse me of anything, before this comment above.DARVO requires an accusation to be made, and a reaction to be defensive. Yet again you change topics when your own sexist language is called out. I’m not looking for help. This is a debate sub full of cruel misogynists. In fact your own comment on DARVO is an example of DARVO, getting reactionary after being called out for behavior. Saying that this sub is full of cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:17 AM
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You literally compared men to sharks not a few comments ago, I have rarely seen misogynistic behavior here, though when it happens it is debated, you may not realize, but you have consistently proven to be just like them, and that's why you, spouting misandrists beliefs, were given the same treatment as a misogynist, on pretty much all of your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:43 AM
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I'm not uncomfortable, I'm just saying every time we've commented at each other you have been nothing but sexist, and you won't find help in a political debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:34 AM
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Every wondered why women don’t feel “lied to” about what they should expect from men and dating? Why they seem to understand from a young age what men want? As a man. I've talked to enough people, read enough books, and seen enough to know that many women have no idea what men want. You are assuming that rp, is a social behavior movement, and that it is intended to give guidance, when it has always been about politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:33 AM
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That's a social risk everyone takes, even men, but for a relationship, professional, romantic, friendly, just passing someone on the street, etc, there has to be some yielding of trust. That doesn't mean a yielding of boundaries. You are in the wrong sub for such a discussion, I would suggest a ptsd sub, or a therapy sub, a survivor support sub, and for dating and other social issues seek experts, self help books, Dr Ruth Westheimer gives good advice on dating, but this is a pill sub just like r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:25 AM
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But you don't fear that, you fear men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:26 PM
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You compare men to animals, which is another incredibly sexist, and literally dehumanizing thing to do, even as a metaphor the meaning is a logical fallacy. If you really want to compare people to sharks, I could very well compare women to sharks, they roam around, then bite things they bump into. Why are you worried about the men? It is you who have the misconceptions about them. The advice to men would be the same as the advice to you in these situations. Avoid them at all cost, you are a dang…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:21 PM
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"Results indicated that women were less likely to be sentenced to prison than men" https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0887403419840804
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 11:05 PM
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Well placing any individual, man or others, into the violent category when they haven't been violent is a terrible thing to do, sexist, prejudice, and unfounded, when women do this they have usually let one or two bad apples spoil the bunch (and ignored the bunch between the two apples). Doing so makes you a very dangerous, prejudiced person, all it takes is one breakdown with that mindset to turn violent, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:56 PM
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You misunderstand, this belief is seen in the justice system of the US. Men, no matter the race always receive worse treatment than women for the same crime. There is a perpetuated fear of the male gender, especially among feminism. "Have you ever wondered why we [women] are not just in armed combat against you? It’s not because there’s a shortage of kitchen knives in this country. It is because we believe in your humanity, against all the evidence." "Any violation of a woman's body can become s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:31 PM
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They're taught in university, and multiple feminists have been called "traitors" for critiquing the beliefs of radicals. All it takes is one person to take such beliefs to seriousness, Valerie Solanas' actions prove that these extreme viewpoints are a credible threat. Perpetuating ideas that men are criminals because they are men, is a very serious concern, and it's a serious intersectional concern as well, God forbid you be a black man in certain countries, you'll not only have biases against y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:55 PM
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Ah, so it's ok to call for genocide against men, just because China and India have a higher rate of aborted girls, and female infanticide? You're trying to change the topic, and you accused me of saying something that was never said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:42 PM
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It's wasn't originally meant for either, it was originally about men's rights, in most circles it still is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:40 PM
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"this woman only shot one guy, but that other guy ran over 6 people" You are trying to do exactly what women complain about, invalidating serious issues and experiences because you believe they don't deserve to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:38 PM
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This is another problem with dating advice from a politically centered culture. As you said, people take in this information, and have no idea what it means, they'll consider it a constant. I think you are also going too far, using an actual ratio. There's nothing wrong with validation, there is something wrong if you feel you have to compromise your beliefs to do so. There are times in relationships where one person just has to say "yea", "uh-huh" as if a baby is babbling; there are also times …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:32 PM
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That's not true, there was never such a definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:20 PM
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Under it's definition it doesn't weaken anyone. But the teachings of Valerie Solanas, Andrea Dworkin, and other extremist who call for genocide, also fall under the label of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 08:18 PM
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No, no, that is a common myth perpetuated by pill culture. There are only two related to dating, and both relate to time spent. 80% of time spent with your partner is good, and 20% isn't, this is a good ratio. 80% of your total time should be without your partner, and doing things you whish, 20% of your total time should be spent with your partner. https://www.regain.us/advice/dating/the-80-20-rule-dating-using-the-pareto-principle/ https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/80-20-relationship-rul…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 07:45 PM
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One could argue that such manipulation is oppressive. The legal system alone, which is, and was,, supported by many radicals such Andrea Dworkin is proof of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 07:25 PM
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It's not really all feminism, the big players in pill politics recognize that. It's the versions of feminism that feminist like Christina Hoff Somers are always worried about. The problem with pill culture is that there are disturbed, and vulnerable men, and women, seeking belonging, and genuine advice, where there is only bad advice, bitching, whining, and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 07:23 PM
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All the 80/20 rule says is that everyone should only spend 20% of their own time on a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 06:40 PM
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Wanting to get married right away is a major red flag, no matter the age. How successful have you been
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 06:33 PM
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So you looked at profiles and simply decided I was wrong. All I said is that it's a red flag when a woman asks a man about their job on the first date, and that it's a dull topic for anyone. I didn't say it should never be mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:57 PM
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You obviously never went to the TRP sub, and have no idea what the actual movement is or was. It's just like FDS, mostly bitching, and whining about the other, the very rare piece of actual advice, which is usually so biased, politically charged, and hate filled to the point that its bad advice; then quite a few sexist, hate filled, stereotyping posts that harm, not only the people reading into them, but the other sex, and society as a whole. I mean, just look at FDS' three newest posts, one is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:57 PM
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When I see them, I do, and have. I don't solely call out women, and don't call out either for simple jokes or locker room talk, but there's a very fine line there before people go over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:30 PM
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Well the only example you gave is from a fictional novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:29 PM
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That's an untrue, and sexist attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:26 PM
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So your information is from a work of fiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:05 PM
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Yea, and they didn't completely cancel the research from what I understand, they just canceled trials early because the side effects were already more than anticipated, which is normal for things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:56 PM
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Yes, but his comment directly related to her comment about police. It is an attempt to relate the situations, not undermine, if this woman really thinks every comment is meant to undermine, then she is a danger to anyone around her, and a self Sabotaging person in relationships. That goes for anyone else who feels that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:51 PM
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No, there were many singles, many are still alive today, and lived perfectly well to do lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:46 PM
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Why do you believe it's BS, you really think every man just let's himself go after he gets into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:45 PM
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Common sense information open to the public through multiple media sources, and dating experts. Going to a hate filled echo chamber is exactly what people say the men do in trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:43 PM
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/30/health/male-birth-control/index.html Keep in mind, male birth control so far has been intended to lower sperm count, so it is essentially ineffective anyway, and people would still need multiple contraception methods using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:35 PM
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Yea, that's how dating is, just like cooking, there's a million ways to do it right, and few ways to do it wrong. That's why there's alot of books, and experts as well. Alot of advice in pill subs is politically biased and leads down negative roads beyond simple rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:32 AM
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Yea, there might be some good pieces in certain post, but it's easier going to a place meant for the advice someone is seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:25 AM
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Well hygiene and social skills are more complicated than a basic rinse, and smiling, but yes that's a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:23 AM
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Even their worst advice is better than here, or other pill groups. Seek relationship experts, help books, etc. All the information exists in the open, hell alot of experts have their books on audible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:20 AM
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Dating sub reddits, probably others, pill areas are all about politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:01 AM
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No, no, I've dated many, many more if you count hookups. Your job is a poor talking point, and if she asks it's a red flag, if he asks it's just boring. And should never, ever go into detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:27 AM
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It's not lying, they said they didn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:22 AM
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Bad take, you're both complaining about cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:19 AM
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Employment is not spoken about before the second date, that's a major red flag in women, unless you obviously work in similar fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:17 AM
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All he said was the cops will arrest men, you have a bad take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:16 AM
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They said that they're not sure. Businesses don't always want to deal with these, sometimes they just settle, even if there are clear laws on their side, and they have to upper hand with legal costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 04:07 AM
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Not true, it used to be like that before the free love/free sex movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:55 AM
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They are in the open, these idiots are just on the wrong sub reddits
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:54 AM
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This is all BS from the other pill people. You will certainly never get a date believing such things. Most problems with attractiveness in men are about hygiene and social skill. Not genetics or wealth. I'm not saying no one shouldn't lower standards, I'm a proponent of trying anything at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:50 AM
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There is a huge conversation there, the birth control tested on men so far has been entirely based on female birth control, and all attempts have directly led to increased suicide rates, and attempted suicide rates in the test groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:42 AM
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This isn't particularly damaging to men, most of whom are quite used to being characterized as the source of all the world's problems, based on far-fetched mental gymnastics. It's an inherent side effect of our species' hardwired-in protectiveness towards women. This is a new world issue, this is why some men are sexist, the belief is why women see a single glance as a threatening stare, or a necessary interruption as rude and sexist. This view is why FDS is a problem, it's a place that refuses …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:30 AM
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It's not like they're promoting violence or harassment towards men. Except they do, and regular do so on there, openly. There very flairs prove it, even if the posters are careful about what they say. "Male depravity" "Scrotes" Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:14 AM
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Yes, because the term "scrotes" and "male depravity" and the micro and macro aggression with those posts, and there's tons of them, are so helpful in creating equal partnerships, it couldn't be sexist, and never encourages sexist, fear mongering, or supremacist attitudes. Not to mention the constant feed of advice that says a woman should never even be friends with guys. Do not pretend that FDS is anything but Solanist, and Dworkinist propaganda, you want real advice, seek an expert, or at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:07 AM
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Name a single example, anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:59 AM
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Today not back then, and that's still supported by the biblical point. My point in saying that biblical submission is agreement refutes you comparing it to Google's definition. It does not mean that wives should bend to the whims of their husbands. In ordering husbands to love their wives it forbids them from doing things that are hateful. I said it because you were making an insinuation about religion that was incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:36 PM
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Love, and everything else that comes with it including agreement, and giving up all the household funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:20 PM
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Because husbands had to do that and more
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:28 PM
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Ok, that does happen. Do you have female friends? Or women to talk to? Or any friends or people to talk to? Have you ever looked to actual sex and relationship experts? Not just people who are RPs, BPs, and PPs, say, these are more political, but actual experts like Dr. Ruth Westheimer Sue Johanson Dr. John Gottman Local people Etc. -From you to two- and -sex for dummies- by Dr. Ruth Westheimer are particularly for inexperienced, and lonely young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 07:21 AM
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Ok Unsuccessful flirting, can you say what happened last time? What the setting was? What was said? What was said before the flirting? Are you only looking for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:50 AM
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Never? How do you define a romantic experience? Flirting? Holding hands? What are your standards? I can't tell you how to be more attractive, I can tell you that there are many women with rock bottom standards, and you don't sound like you'd be considered low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:40 AM
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Why exactly are you sad and bitter? Are you on medication for social anxiety and depression? How are you trying to date? Are you trying to date? Or Are you trying to hookup?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 06:22 AM
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Is this a thing? Modern marriage is not usually a priority from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:47 AM
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Women also just want companionship. But yes, people will not baby you. Brotherhood is very similar, so perhaps men's groups. But nothing is the same as a parent's love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:42 AM
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Only if they hide it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:34 AM
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Very rarely
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:34 AM
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Stoicism does not say to hide emotions, it encourages debate, logic, education, and wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:31 AM
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Stoicism does not say that you should have no emotion about things. It says you should have self control and fortitude to prevent your emotions from becoming destructive. Nature: Nature is rational. Law of Reason: The universe is governed by the law of reason. Humans can't actually escape its inexorable force, but they can, uniquely, follow the law deliberately. Virtue: A life led according to rational nature is virtuous. Wisdom: Wisdom is the the root virtue. From it spring the cardinal virtues…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:27 AM
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I find that I am very picky. There are lots of very nice people out there with good hearts who I think would make great partners but there are two specific traits I try to combine which seems to be my downfall: very attractive looks and an intellectual/mature personality. That's your problem, you're not looking for chemistry, having these traits does not mean you will get along with someone, that's the important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:15 AM
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Important note: When answering these questions, please refrain from using the bible or anything religious. I am not religious, so I'm not interested in hearing about how God put man above woman. Biblical submission is equal to agreement, translations just vary. In terms of RP, I've always assumed it was about sex positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:07 AM
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Oh and you did say they were more violent. You’re either wrong or you lie. Remember the little list you tried to put together of women who murder in the name of feminism. That is not the same thing, you are once again placing words that weren't there, the list is stated to be in response to a question about women who have killed due to feminism, and there is no implication or statement that says they're more violent. And, I made several points, I guess you missed them. Also, way to not acknowled…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:36 AM
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Hmm yes, nothing to say about the actual topic, just cherry picking something that is ultimately irrelevant and didn't change my point, and name calling, very mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:23 AM
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Are you talking about the free love movement in the 60s, you stupid ass? That’s what it was called, not the free sex movement. It’s not my fault you’re an idiot who doesn’t know what it’s called. Oh please, everyone knows it's interchangeable. You know what causes sexism? Misogynists. That’s it. Ah, yes, men just hate women, such a good argument. Stop trying to blame women for all your problems, it’s pathetic. And where exactly did this happen? All male support groups and even TRP to an extent f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:10 AM
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Research why some men are misogynistic, because you, and the person before you claim that men kill solely due to sexism, without asking what causes the sexism. The belief sex should be given freely. Do you mean consensual sex? Because most people think that. Or do you mean something else? Are you stupid? How do you not know what the free sex movement was, and the beliefs? It literally is the basis for hookup culture. You said FDS women are violent, more so than men. That’s an outright lie. For y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:28 AM
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Yea, you should research before you say something sexist, is that not obvious? The belief that sex should be given freely “This is not what men do”. Uh, yeah they do. Quite a lot actually. I’m not even going to qualify with NAM because fucking obviously. That's exactly what the research would be for, the actual percentage, I would bet, is the same as the percentage of women who get entitled and angry at rejection, and men certainly have a minority of people who do this. As a bi male my experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:06 AM
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Why aren’t we asking why men do these things? The audacity to put that on women. We aren’t your therapists, and we aren’t here to give sex to incels so they won’t murder us. No one put that on women. No one said to give sex to incels, and no one justified misogyny either. You are placing words that weren't there. We know why men do it. Because they are entitled and view women as something they deserve. The reason there aren’t a lot of female incels, is because a woman can always find a man to us…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:36 AM
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You need to actually research, why aren't you asking why the men do these things, instead of putting all the blame on sexism. Aileen Wurnos killed 7 men in 1990. She was not part of any radical feminist movement and was motivated by past sexual abuse she endured by a child. So hatred against men due to trauma, that doesn't make it right to murder people. She was also not motivated by radical feminism. She killed her husbands and other female family members. She particularly targeted the men thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:21 PM
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incels that have murdered women would be too long to write You know I just gave recent high profile examples right? What exactly is your point? That it's ok to be sexist because less men were killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:42 PM
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You asked me what ethical concerns, and I answered. For further discussion, what dystopian possibilities do you personally believe will happen? No, just watch a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:40 AM
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Safety Due to the possibility of off-target effects (edits in the wrong place) and mosaicism (when some cells carry the edit but others do not), safety is of primary concern. Researchers and ethicists who have written and spoken about genome editing, such as those present at the International Summit on Human Gene Editing, generally agree that until germline genome editing is deemed safe through research, it should not be used for clinical reproductive purposes; the risk cannot be justified by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 07:03 AM
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But yeah those are things you see to an extreme degree on TRP. I have never seen that, most are very supportive of sex workers. You see the opposite in FDS. Not to mention blatant sexism, not just annoying complaints, but blatant sexism that is all affirmed, and encouraged on FDS. There's alot on TRPs, but alot of health as well, and much teaching on these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 03:35 AM
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I've never seen a mod get someone for that, or ban them. I've definitely never seen someone banned before they join, FDS will look at who you follow and ban you after you press the join button.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 03:33 AM
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Obviously you have not been in these spaces, most groups focus on understanding, and yes the person who often needs teaching comes from a place of abuse and has prejudices based on their experiences. Women's spaces do the opposite, they encourage fear, violence, and prejudice in women who are vulnerable, and usually against men, and by women who are particularly prejudiced in the first place. No one's there to defend men when the stereotyping comes out, but the male groups do not encourage preju…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 03:28 AM
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This is why people need ruth Westheimer, and John Gottman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:10 AM
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Wait this was the biggest thing? You think THIS was an attempt to get you fired? No... it's called looking out for other young women... That is big, just because it's not a macro-aggression doesn't mean that it's not a big issue. You have a person who's been there longer, likely has more influence, manipulating the views of others about the OP. No you were safe because this isn't the kind of shit that gets people fired, dude. Why so paranoid? Work politics are like this alot, they may or may not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 02:00 AM
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Work drinks are dangerous, and considered unprofessional where I'm from. I've seen women harassing men at my workplace, I myself had report an event done to me, this is a female dominated field, and I think working with the same gender for years and years makes people forget professionalism, and the leaders are responsible for reminding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:39 AM
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That's very untrue I don't know why you think that, there would be no single mothers, or fathers if it were true. Most women have a very high sex drive like most men. Women don't even notice the competition between men, they usually focus on one target, and who often isn't even competing for her because he has another, or is looking for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:30 AM
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A robot, or anything controlling my life is not a utopia. What would the sexual marketplace look like then? Would there still be monogamy? Would most men have sexual access to women during their lives? The robots would obviously arrange relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:01 AM
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Well as a successful seller by your definition I'd totally advise seeking dating advice from experts of the sex or gender your looking for. I encourage people to improve the things that make them attractive and use them appropriately. This will allow them to both attract more women and KEEP them attracted That's not how seeking partners work though, it certainly doesn't matter for sex advice, only for general attraction, what you focus on may not attract the person or people you want, you have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:55 AM
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Be a alot easier for everyone, even naturally attractive people wouldn't have to lift a finger. But the ethics around genetic engineering are questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:48 AM
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Well you know this does happen, multiple movies have been made about it, quite objectifying for men tbh. The competition men put themselves through makes us very toxic to one another at times, and doesn't get enough attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:37 AM
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So you encourage people to waste time trying to attract someone who isn't attracted to them, as opposed to asking a similar person for advice, that still makes it pretty illogical. What exactly would you determine a "successful seller" to be in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:33 AM
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Well I wouldn't call it a formula, or relate it to science at all, there's just too many variables within what you said, and more variables than you listed to solely rely on your own monolog, even the richest companies do customer surveys to figure things out. all women are attracted to the same things ,namely looks, status and game (alpha personality traits) and are hypergamous. The same thing is said of men, and the same advice is given to women, at the very least it's more advantageous to und…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 12:19 AM
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Attraction isn't a conscious process. You don't choose to be attracted to someone, you just are. Female sexuality, unlike male sexuality, is complex and counterintuitive . Women don't know why they are attracted to someone or they got horny more easily in that case and not the other. It just happened to them. -They are on the receiving end of the emotion (and emotions affect them more than men) and they influence their perception of things. They rationalize reasons they like someone that aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:56 PM
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Tell me, how many women have murdered men in the name of feminism? Andy Warhol as a high profile example. An infamous feminist assassinated a popular gay artist. Aileen Wuornos Nannie Doss Belle Gunness The term "black widow" exists for a reason. Just because they're crazy is different doesn't make the ideology less dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:52 PM
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About as easy as getting a penis enhancement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:41 PM
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What about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:35 PM
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I didn't say there was no logic, I said there's no mathematical equation. It's very illogical not to ask advice from the people you're trying to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:23 PM
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Not most people
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:20 PM
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That's ridiculous, there's no mathematical equation for attraction, that's why best practice for men includes asking people out until someone says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:17 PM
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Porn doesn't show examples of things that commonly happen, and most often shows criminal scenarios. Real life doesn't work like porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:10 PM
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Are you in a relationship? What has your sex life been like? … yes and all done from a “what’s best for women” perspective That is not true though, teaching men to understand women and vice versa, because women asking for advice often get men's perspectives from these experts, is the foundation for good sex and heterosexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 11:01 PM
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What you're talking is hooking up, not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:56 PM
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You are really underestimating how horny women get, trust them they know where the sensitive parts are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:48 PM
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They don't though, not for sex or relationships, if a hookup rejects you for the size of your penis that's on them, it's not a judgment on you, they're just looking for a quick fuck anyway, and it depends on the hookup's mood, they might not care the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:46 PM
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Understanding what your partner wants and needs. Getting over rejection and moving on to the next potential partner. Understanding partners, in your question's case how a good relationship should be. Sex advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:42 PM
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But nobody is judging you, you're the only who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:33 PM
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What do you mean "an exam"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:33 PM
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How is it half the answer? How about Sue Johanson, anything about penis size is related to sex not relationships, she's the expert there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:32 PM
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Just try it and explore
/r/RedPillWomen13/08/21 10:24 PM
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Dr. Ruth is one of those blue pilled old ladies that gives advice entirely from a female perspective and for the benefit of primarily women. The "pill" thing is all about politics, and what you said is false she gives the same relationship advice you'd see from any other person who has had a good sex life, and relationship/relationships. I once saw her give advice on penis size issues and when it was done I just realized that she is totally fucking clueless. Explain? I have found the opposite, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:22 PM
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Nobody says otherwise, men's health is very important to red pill. So is men's rights, the misconception that it's all whining about women is just a misconception, an especially false one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:40 PM
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I think it's just a convoluted way of encouraging exploration
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:38 PM
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Varies on the person
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:37 PM
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Because many times it is, as a bi man I have yet to learn the name of any of the people I've had sex with. But it's different in a closed relationship, if you wanted it open you should make that clear. It's a deal-breaker for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:24 PM
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Everyone experiences this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:15 PM
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It goes much further than what you're saying though, there's plenty of places and people who tell women to be assertive, and teach men proper reactions, that don't encourage fear and violence. Ruth Westheimer Sue Johanson Numerous other sex and relationship experts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:12 PM
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Men do this, but every time we try to have a good support group it gets shut down and all the male victims are sent to larger support groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:08 PM
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But when men make something like that it gets banned, even though it was never a safe place to complain in the first place because numerous viewpoints were allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:05 PM
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Let me flip it. If FDS were welcoming of all views that go against the philosophy and lacked any shallow ideas, would you be okay with the many, many, male-dominated spaces on the internet expressing their "childish and judgmental" views of women in echo-chamber style? Or would you think something like "It's their safe space to get their frustration off their chest"? Or maybe you would claim there's confirmation bias by the critics and that "they don't all think exactly the same"? It's a rhetori…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:03 PM
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TRP invites debate, it has many viewpoints and is not an echo chamber of violence, it focuses on men's issues as a whole not just complaints against the opposite sex. FDS is an echo chamber for solonoist and dworkinist viewpoints that encourage fear, hate, and violence against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 09:00 PM
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This doesn't change the fact that it's a toxic echo box that is highly sexist towards males, and openly encourages dworkinist fear mongering and misandry, and at times outright violence against men, you rarely see groups of men do this, and and when you do there is always legitimate debate and discussion, not an echo chamber of hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:53 PM
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Your debating a concept bigger than the semantics of incel vs fem-cel. The argument was that it's wrong to make a hierarchy based on sexual experiences.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 10:16 PM
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You know incel is a wide term right? It doesn't just refer misogyny, women can also be incels, and not just for beliefs
/r/MensRights09/07/21 10:09 PM
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Gonna tell that to Andy Warhol?
/r/MensRights09/07/21 10:04 PM
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In a way yes, it's quite a misunderstanding. To say girls mature earlier is true when it comes to something like puberty, and because of ealier puberty more is explained to them earlier. But boys often find sexuality as early as most girls, it's entirely social for boys, and always is even after puberty.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 09:49 PM
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"Men don't owe women any money. Or support. If women really want equality, they can pay for the costs of dating and relationships split 50/50 down the middle. I know for certain hardly any women in the United States do that." You didn't even read the older comment. You don't date men, and are too young to understand modern dating without the luxury of a guardian anyway. Men paying is considered so normal that staff usually don't even ask how the check will be split, they just give the whole cost…
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:06 PM
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Single fathers can also claim the child as a dependent, it's not new.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 04:49 PM
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you're assumed to be guilty if a woman falsely accuses you of some sexual crime This isn’t a right. That is a right. It's the entire point of the 5th Amendment in the US, and most countries have a law protecting due process. in general a second class citizen Hyperbolic. you're shown close to no compassion Again, hyperbolic. We are clearly seen as disposable, the draft is not the only thing that shows that, the bias against men that puts us in jail for longer periods then women get also show it. …
/r/MensRights07/07/21 01:33 AM
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. I know for certain Source? The collective experiences of the majority of men.
/r/MensRights07/07/21 01:08 AM
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