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-2

Getting more of out doing good than you get doesn't mean it's not Yes, it does, it can be seen as a reciprocal action at that point.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 05:42 PM
-5

I don't think I'd count all that, you could argue that was all that is needed to make Paul feel like he did something good, ergo he got more out of it than he paid. But, like I said, it was virtuous, I just wouldn't count it as altruism.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 05:30 PM
-5

None of that was altruism, they sacrifice little to nothing by doing what is legally required. And Paul didn't sacrifice anything, you paid to get your wallet their. Altruism requires sacrifice. I'm not saying those actions were not virtuous. Your friend's donation may be considered altruistic charity, but that is also debatable. I'm my country, what your aunt did is considered theft.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 05:24 PM
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The problem is altruism. It's not just women, it's everything. The fact that altruism is seen as virtuous, and that people who question it are seen as, "egomaniacal narcissists," is the problem. You cannot have altruism without sacrifice. Charity can be seen as virtuous, but Charity and altruism are not the same.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 05:12 PM
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Kant gets too much respect, he wasn't exactly worldy. Acts done for the sake of improving one's own or someone else's well-being aren't morally important. Acts that end up benefiting oneself aren't morally important. Acts done only to improve one's own or someone else's well-being aren't morally important. Acts done only to benefit oneself aren't morally important. Those are, essentially, the same.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 05:00 PM
5

Hate her all you want but altruism, being seen as virtuous, certainly isn't good for men. It is one of the, if not the main, pillars that keeps men disposable. If you are not willing to sacrifice, even your life, then you are not a, "good," man. You are a narcissistic egomaniac if you advocate for your own needs in a relationship. And God forbid you protest a draft, not only will you be shamed and shunned, but you could be jailed.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 04:58 PM
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Ayn Rand was right, altruism is evil. There can be no equal relationship without some reciprocity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocity_(social_psychology) Also, most romance novels are dramatic af, and I certainly would not describe them like this.
/r/MensRights04/10/24 03:29 PM
6

The stats you gave are from the US, and it's not hundreds of thousands of lives being destroyed. That is fear mongering. The number of murder victims stands around 20,000, regardless of the murderer, nearly every year; give or take a couple thousand. Humans are flawed, you will never stop them all, you can fit 3 Indias in the mainland US. There might be some policies and systems to reduce it a bit more. As seen in Europe. All crime is a mental health issue.
/r/MensRights02/10/24 09:54 PM
1

It's always the pill people. They're corrupt stoics, they like sitting around, telling everyone else to sit and wait, while others do the actual work. The worst part is that stoics have this problem where they say, "oh, we were right all along, all those other people were also stoics." They do it to Cicero alot, the skeptic everyone calls a stoic.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 08:34 AM
1

Pearl did alright this time, conservative, but alright.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 08:25 AM
1

Be at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let every new year find you a better man. -Benjamin Franklin- Poor Richard's Almanac
/r/MensRights01/10/24 08:14 AM
1

It’s soo easy for women to point their fingers at men’s violence. However men’s violence is a side effect of men’s obligation and abilty to protect. Men are evolved over milennia to be able to muster aggression enough to protect women, children and their tribe. Do explain.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 07:56 AM
1

Yea, I mean FDS is basically TRP for women.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 05:02 AM
1

Technically they are the pill people hyperfocused on blaming all their problems on their appearance. But these are all basically the same groups.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 04:55 AM
1

Ma'am, sir, whatever idgaf. We take the brunt of the pill people here, the feminist bs, the red pillers, the black pillers, many female dating strategists, the MGTOWS. They are what they are, I do not use the word, "incel," or, "beta male." One's a hijacked term made an insult, and the other comes from a long disproved theory. But I know who they refer to, and OP shows language and a belief often spouted by those groups. It's my belief that these corrupt stoics should be shut down, as to not hij…
/r/MensRights01/10/24 04:45 AM
1

Will it reach OP? Not likely Is it true? Likely Could op be a troll? Maybe
/r/MensRights01/10/24 04:38 AM
-1

This is red pill propaganda. Like actually red pill propaganda. Plenty of men who don't fit a beauty standard, or some wealth issues, are getting into relationships. This doomsaying helps no one, go improve yourself.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 04:36 AM
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Maybe, but alot of them also have a reputation beyond being men. They all be rapping bout that gangsta life. Yall can downvote me all you want, but it's true, OP's examples aren't exactly paragons of morality.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 04:32 AM
20

Only the rich can settle.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 04:06 AM
3

That the conversation happened at all should be concerning to UK citizens and colonies. America literally fought a war over this kind of bullshit over 200 years ago. That's literally what the first thing on the bill of rights says, "right to free press, and peaceful assembly."
/r/MensRights01/10/24 03:26 AM
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Except you’re wrong, men are not inherently violent, it's just that radical feminism's answer to it is wrong. Masculinity isn't violent, and women are just as violent as men. Ffs, there was a post a on another sub last weekend about a woman who burnt her daughter's rapist alive. To say that that was masculinity is just factually wrong. Masculine people heal, they have logic, they don't go into blind rages, that is not what "protection" means, only the insane and poorly brought up people rage.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 03:06 AM
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That is what your taxes are supposed to be for, not giving congress another raise.
/r/MensRights29/09/24 05:14 PM
0

Sending nudes is not good, even on Grindr, it is not acceptable by Normal standards.
/r/MensRights28/09/24 12:54 PM
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I said ideally these men would be physically dangerous, within reason, which would aid in their objectives if only because of their presence and because you never know what might happen. The male should be somewhat prepared in this way, but also the academic fighting for truth is unlikely to be a physical fighter and thats ok. A lot of the fighting I’m talking about is going to be words, legislation, simply doing whats right and taking a stand. Most of it is non-violent in nature. The warrior cl…
/r/MensRights23/09/24 09:23 PM
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Even if it does have a gender bias, it's someone's will, it doesn't have to be fair, it was intended the way it was written.
/r/MensRights23/09/24 07:06 PM
3

Why is your idea of masculinity and men only muscles and fighting and competition? Did you fall asleep in history class after the cave-man was explained to you? To answer your question, how to bring back a, "warrior class," men need what women, mostly feminist lobbies, won't let them have. A place segregated specifically for men, male spaces, not male dominated spaces, not spaces meant for men but that allow women, but spaces for men alone.
/r/MensRights23/09/24 06:31 PM
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I never hear them talk about male sex dolls.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/24 05:47 PM
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You're asking why the mother would have to go through these things even if the baby is already dead, I gave you the answer and you are denying it. Why should she be allowed to kill a baby, when it's coming out fully formed either way at this point? There is no, "but the mother's life," argument to be made, there is no easy or safe removal process, only procedures more dangerous, or just as dangerous as natural birth at this point. It would still be an, "abortion," If you want to be pedantic, she…
/r/MensRights21/09/24 04:55 PM
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The late term abortion methods involve things like that, so yes, a stillborn has to be c-sectioned out, or birthed, you cannot suction or currette something that is practically a fully formed human. Your argument shows your lack of knowledge in these procedures. There is no non-invasive surgery for this.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 04:51 PM
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Pro-most-of-the-time-Choice That is my stance, yes, at 9 months the abortion methods are just cruel, and no less dangerous or invasive than birthing methods, the state could easily take the baby since she doesn't want it.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 04:45 PM
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Come on though, at 9 months a state could just keep the baby, there's no less/non-invasive procedure at that point.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 04:41 PM
1

Horrible, but this is not an issue of Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 04:38 PM
0

"But let’s give teachers the benefit of the doubt." That is a phrase in the English language, in this context, that simply means, "let's look at the other side."
/r/MensRights21/09/24 04:34 PM
1

What is the FET?
/r/MensRights21/09/24 01:44 AM
2

I'm confused, were you in a contract, or did the bishop put you there, I am unfamiliar with the workings of your sect.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 12:23 AM
-13

Have you ever done so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 11:23 PM
-17

Idk if I'd go that far with kafka, Rand has great points when talking about the virtue of self-interest, and hopeful messages. Kafka is kind of a doomsayer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 10:45 PM
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You sir, may be interested in the work and beliefs of Ayn Rand.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/24 10:07 PM
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Idc, a man is a man, by no other metric. Masculinity overrall is a set of behaviors imposed on men and boys as the, "norm." That's all feminity and masculinity are, the people saying, "toxic/healthy masculinity," are just projecting their shit onto the planet, yourself included.
/r/MensRights20/09/24 04:10 AM
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.1. You obviously didn't look them up outside whatever biased sources you used. They show no misogyny whatsoever in their work, just because they don't put the world's problems on men and boys doesn't mean they're misogynistic. .2. The boy's education crisis has been going on since the 70s, and it reached its first boiling point in 90s, in the US, you had a verified crisis with boys in education, and statistics showing girls were better than fine. So there were calls from feminists like Christin…
/r/MensRights19/09/24 08:12 AM
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I'm sorry, who are second class citizens? The people who are made, by the society, to die for women, and the rest, you're saying the men, who are forced to fight in wars, have it better than women, who have all rights and privileges society can possibly offer, and more, with no drawback? It was feminism that fought against boys, and has fought against men and boys, in the ongoing education crisis, the good feminist is not the norm, the Christina Hoff Sommers, or Camile Paglia; the normal feminis…
/r/MensRights19/09/24 06:32 AM
2

ShoeOnHead did some stuff on this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 06:00 AM
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No, but the lobbies of women could stop derailing conversations, case in point, and fabricating crises to throw men and boys under the bus, the education crisis, for example- see the work of Christina Hoff Sommers. Or feminists could stop with this idea that every problem men have comes from toxic masculinity, which remains a vague term like, "tHe PaTrIaRcHy," that solely exists to make feminists have a common, persistent, unstoppable, and ever changing enemy in the male gender; it is a fabricat…
/r/MensRights19/09/24 05:28 AM
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As an amateur historian, I assure you that you're better off now than any past generation. That I will probably never know the joys that past Like when men were tarred and feathered just for doing their job? Or the 90s, when all the best songs were breakup songs, or about abuse, or poverty, and the boy's education crisis was rampant? Or the rest of the 1900s with never ending wars and STD epidemics, and flu epidemics. The world has, actually, always been like this. As Frank Herbert wrote, "I mus…
/r/MensRights19/09/24 05:14 AM
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Don't really need to disprove them, it's an op ed on some blog, not an actual journal showing research.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 11:26 PM
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That's because the wider left did, in fact, abandon men, and, "abandon," is the least they do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/24 05:36 AM
3

I have criticisms. You are demanding here, not declaring. In demanding actions from the state (based on their protection of women), you're implying (whether you want to or not) that our right to protection is dependent on the will of a state, and the right that state gives women. So, maybe, States Parties shall take all appropriate measures, including legislation, to suppress all forms of traffic in women and exploitation of prostitution of women States Parties shall take all That any man can ta…
/r/MensRights16/09/24 06:39 PM
2

Ai doesn't need to do that to get data, it takes it with math.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 07:15 AM
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Idk what you're expecting from Great Britain, they've always been like this, with literally everything.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 06:45 AM
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That looks like it actually took data from reddit.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 06:44 AM
-2

That would be a defense worthy of public objection.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 02:02 PM
-38

They're marketed to get women to feel like they're closer to ideal beauty standards, not to enhancing sexual encounters. Have you never seen a Victoria's Secret commercial?
/r/MensRights13/09/24 08:31 AM
2

You don't, they're kids, just be there for the fallout, if there's fallout.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 08:07 AM
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Idk about the false accusations, or their laws, but they're right to protest that defense. If a man were sexually assaulted, and his type of clothing or, lack thereof, were used as proof of consent, we aught to be up in arms, that would be victim blaming, yes.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 07:53 AM
7

This was something that came up during the college rape crisis, there's quite a few versions of such contracts.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 05:54 AM
1

Hypergamy is a mere theory, like the Alpha/beta theories the pill people use, the one which was disproven even in the wild upon further observation.
/r/MensRights13/09/24 04:09 AM
1

Idk, but the pill people blame it all on beauty standards and hypergamy, which is dumb. If it were something other than choice, it would more likely be the economy.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 11:02 PM
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Even if boys were taught to be more selfish, what would be wrong with that? Selfishness has virtues, even though our society likes to deny that. These kids were given their plates, for themselves. But this is no scientific experiment. The boy is obviously older, he knows what's going on, that's not a house where a child needs to share the food given to them, it's plentiful; he knows his parents can walk a few steps and get their own food. The girl is younger, she wouldn't know that, toddlers hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/24 05:27 PM
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Many Feminists like trauma dumping and projecting their abuser's actions onto the entire planet.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 04:59 PM
3

I would neither give you that title, nor take it if I were you. Doesn't sound like he was talking about you. You invested in something you saw value in, certainly no shame in it.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 06:14 AM
2

I am not familiar with the New Zealand government or its processes. But 1.This is the size of a novel, that is extremely long for a document of this kind. 2.It is not a document of best practices, they are your personal recommendations, and are debatable both practically and morally, a best practice is a tried and true method with verifiable results. 3.What you seem to be writing is, what is called in the US, a letter for a Rulemaking Petition, or a Rulemaking Petition. Where you are sending a r…
/r/MensRights12/09/24 06:06 AM
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Meh, as I native speaker, I say it's passable.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 12:12 AM
-9

Not to push feminist rhetoric, but if yo bros ain't gonna take you in, you might want to be a bit more selfish in your choosing of friends.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 11:24 PM
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Even so, people often use this to say black feminism was better for men. But, for men's rights, it was a net positive that they were infighting. I mentioned Bell Hooks in my main comment, a major and popular black feminist today, and an early one, she practically holds the same views as Dworkin, just nicer about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 10:17 PM
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I'm not sure if that's a good thing, after reading some black feminists, the white feminists might have been right to disregard them, they were a bit extreme even for the radicals of the times. Completely ready to throw black men under the proverbial bus, pretty much wanted to make them slaves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 09:55 PM
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I posted about extreme leftist Bell Hook's -The Will to Change- (a post still not approved here). She criticized feminist mothers for not telling their sons to stop fighting back against their bullies. It is a very popular kind of feminism today that is the exact kind the conservatives talk about, she insisted that patriarchy prevented men from having free will, while criticizing people for not brainwashing kids into her militant pacifism. This popular feminism pretends to be sympathetic to men,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 09:50 PM
-2

I'm saying it doesn't work when it isn't done right, like a joke that falls flat.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 07:36 PM
1

That information doesn't change the shortness of Vance's comment.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 06:51 PM
-2

Idc who wins, they're both liars. Part of me wants Harris to win, but only to see a new president AI character in all those president AI youtube videos.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 06:28 PM
5

Vance was a nobody outside his state, it was a foolish pick.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 06:21 PM
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A childless cat lady is, traditionally, a childless cat lady because she is unmarried and childless, therefore compensates with an abundance of cats, often they're depicted as alcoholics as well. Harris doesn't fit the mold, ergo the insult is flat, and the mudslinging will backfire on Vance/Trump.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 06:18 PM
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English itself is a diverse language, have you ever read/heard African American English Vernacular (aka jive)? There's many other dialects as well. https://youtube.com/shorts/Zy5bgrskkJo?si=vn0Iv1i6mXIrO7jF English can be both prose-centered, and poetic, there's a lot of allusions and inferencing, and idioms. Many different ways to say the same things.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 05:50 PM
4

There's a lot going on outside the West and US in Men's Rights, India has had a good amount of attention this year.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 05:08 PM
-2

Or they could be looking for men's rights content, and they're making sure they're not going to be bombarded with, "wahman," comments from pill people and mgtows.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 05:06 PM
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It was a weird, mudslinging, comment from Vance; which isn't surprising from little Trump, Harris is married, so it falls flat logically too. Trump should have picked Tulsi Gabbard as VP, she's proven more than capable of going toe-to-toe with Harris, she's even done it before, and she's a good moderate.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 03:12 PM
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Idk what it is, the first one is the most common scenario I've seen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 07:21 AM
60

Well, as a bi man, I say that Most people don't believe bisexuality exist, and that includes gays, and once they learn they automatically think you're really straight/gay. Biphobic people always believe that a bi partner will cheat or are/were overly promiscuous. These are things believed about bisexual men and women. So many bi people are closeted, it gives us more options, but there are downsides.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 05:35 AM
4

No, can't give what you don't have.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 04:49 AM
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Don't you know? The pay gap is caused by sexist patriarchal men, and it can't be fixed until patriarchy is dismantled, because literally every problem in the universe is solely caused by men and the patriarchy. /s
/r/MensRights11/09/24 02:56 AM
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What's an EBT card? Food stamps. If you could sent me an article on a case it would be really nice. Even in states where voluntary relinquishment can remove child support, it's incredibly difficult to get it, and judges can be arbitrary. As can be seen on this North Carolina lawyer's website. https://www.breedenfirm.com/legal-blog/does-signing-away-parental-rights-stop-child-support/
/r/MensRights11/09/24 01:13 AM
2

That's a very Dworkinist/Solanist interpretation of that research.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 11:31 PM
2

The point is to send those egalitarians back to the intersectionals and radicals and other far left feminists, and have them retake their movement. So the MRM can, at least, have some room to breath, and maybe get a better ally than that.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 11:29 PM
2

I don't think that Sommers feminism would do much for men since it would still be her or women in general who would be at the forefront and men's issues would be in the back. I disagree, Sommers shows a feminism there to support men and MRA's in men's issues, and sees many male issues as major societal ones. As seen by her actions in the Education Crisis and College Rape Crisis. She herself took to guest speaking and was often called by conservative college groups alongside different commentator…
/r/MensRights10/09/24 11:17 PM
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Did you mean "You're not familiar with how politics work are you?" or something else? No it wouldn't be hitting 2 birds with one stone it would just make feminism even more impossible to argue against and it wouldn't make MRM stronger. Politiking is the act of engaging in political activity. Yes, it would make the MRM stronger, even if Sommers' equalist feminism had a little more power, it would give MRAs some space, they have us under the figurative microscope. That's your opinion don't put it …
/r/MensRights10/09/24 06:46 PM
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You're not familiar with how politiking works are you? Supporting feminist allies is just a single goal to make the MRM stronger, and remove a hurdle against men's rights, it would be hitting 2 birds with one stone. P.S. The MRM is overrall pro choice, regardless of our personal feelings to the matter, and I only remember snippets of the discussions around Simone de Beauvoir. She lived in a time where the age difference between her and her younger lover was not illegal, he was an adult, and was …
/r/MensRights10/09/24 05:31 PM
0

We cannot deny that feminism is here to stay. We can support feminists who'd support and show sympathy for men and men's rights in the hope that their feminism will become popular. Paglia is an ultra, almost rand-like, individualist and that supports the MRM and men's rights, everyone's rights really.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 05:12 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 03:41 PM
5

I actually gave you title of the book in my title and in the post.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 03:21 PM
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I'll take your word for it, this book was enough for a while, I don't think I want to go down that rabbit hole.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 07:00 AM
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That doesn't change the statements I make, or Hooks' sentiments, it was also clear she was not just talking about black men, especially with everything else she spoke on, and her criticism of CHS. But yes, it was clear that she was projecting, as I said.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 06:38 AM
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Solanas was the one who said, "males are defective females." Dworkin, essentially, said we're monsters.
/r/MensRights10/09/24 05:59 AM
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Don't the pill people call that hypergamy?
/r/MensRights09/09/24 11:44 PM
-3

In the west this term would explicitly refer to vegans or vegetarians, so I don't care.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 11:50 AM
-2

Normal people have patience to actually date. That's what it's for, finding the life partner.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 11:47 AM
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I'd bet money that you're a feminist alt account.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 05:00 AM
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1.That is a racist ad-hominen argument. 2.I am a white American. 3.You must be one of the pill people, if you truly care about men's rights, you would at least try to guide these other pill people away from the political nature of these spaces. Men's rights and issues involve far more than the lack of rizz your people have. 4.Perhaps you should listen in your English class.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:52 AM
1

That hard line is everything that's wrong with modern politics, politicians such as Tulsi Gabbard have connections on all sides, even if she's not favored by any of them, it's important to have and be people like that.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:40 AM
-5

I try to reach out to the far left when I see a valuable opportunity, it helps to use their official language, and keep up whenever they change it.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:35 AM
2

Cis=cisgender=biological gender
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:32 AM
2

I am speaking English in an English speaking sub, if you are having translation issues, it is on your end.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:31 AM
3

Biological
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:28 AM
-1

That is still a choice to pay for the path of least resistance as opposed to taking the long road. There are actual incels who are involuntarily celibate due to uncontrollable circumstances like severe disabilities.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 04:27 AM
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Don't let it get to you, it's not a competition between cis and trans people, that person was just undermining men and playing lip service, purely political, probably hates trans men as much as cis men.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 02:24 AM
3

You lost me at intersectionality, Christina Hoff Sommers was right, it only protects extremists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 12:45 AM
1

You can start locally and send the petition to your local leaders and representatives in your state's government.
/r/MensRights08/09/24 10:37 PM
-3

Case in point, you're just making excuses now.
/r/MensRights08/09/24 10:33 PM
1

You can't be an incel if you're self-identifying, that would make it voluntary. And most people called incels are called that ironically, determinism isn't real, and most of you are perfectly capable of going out and meeting people.
/r/MensRights08/09/24 07:13 PM
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It's not 10x higher for women, it's a small percentage higher. The FBI's estimated statistics don't come close to 10x the number of their confirmed statistics. Stop encouraging feminist propaganda. https://youtu.be/TZrzCAuiw7w?si=cQCdGW81zowbr-t_ https://youtu.be/Dq3Ju_sI_Ew?si=RzC4mOcK1HuTx10b https://youtu.be/lNsJ1DhqQ-s?si=Uw3YZOD-oioAxCKJ It might actually be 10x higher for men, as we're actually encouraged to enjoy it and not report it. It is unlikely that you'll see any comprehensive studi…
/r/MensRights08/09/24 04:46 PM
2

Rights that you're born knowing, and would be considered a crime against humanity to take away.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 07:51 PM
7

TIL that I must be conservative because I know free will, and personal independence to, objectively, be inalienable and natural rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 07:15 PM
1

Christina Hoff Sommers goes into some stuff, idk about elite backing though.
/r/MensRights07/09/24 03:18 PM
0

Did I say the judge was desensitized?
/r/MensRights07/09/24 02:05 PM
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From the first and second points I can tell that you consider yourself morally and/or intellectually superior. You justify this with insinuations that you have invented, based on the Straw Man Fallacy. You are practically arguing with yourself. I have made no insinuations, you have argued with OP and myself without making any defense or explanations of your point that the behaviors described by OP are, "feminine," and, "beta male." And you have been asked for such an explanation multiple times. …
/r/MensRights07/09/24 06:36 AM
1

Firstly, I've been around the block enough to know that mgtows and pill people, and anyone inexperienced or lonely, should not be giving videos like that out, they just don't have the practical knowledge to understand it fully. Secondly, you are not a man based on your rizz. Your relationship and sexual status means nothing, only virgins think otherwise. Thirdly, you are still dodging the question. Baldwin IV Saladin Henry VIII Thomas Jefferson John Adams Benjamin Franklin John F Kennedy Jordan …
/r/MensRights07/09/24 05:02 AM
1

I'd bet money that you're an Andrew Tate fan. Is he where you got your unammed idea of the, "AlPha MaLe," from? I don't subscribe to this toxic masculinity/feminity, or alpha/beta bs. Even in the wild the alpha/beta theory is disproven. But the fact that you think it's unmanly to act with charity and kindness is absurd. And I don't even care for charity and kindness, but unlike you I lean more to Ayn Rand's view on it. Ffs, if Jesus did it, and all the other great men in history, then why would …
/r/MensRights07/09/24 04:32 AM
1

And how, exactly, are behaviors that nearly all of the greatest and most powerful, and most revered men in all of history exhibited, "beta male behaviors?"
/r/MensRights07/09/24 04:22 AM
8

Idk why you're surprised, child support is taxed.
/r/MensRights07/09/24 03:25 AM
0

Sounds like you two need couple's therapy.
/r/MensRights07/09/24 12:58 AM
2

That is an opinion based on feminist propaganda, toxicity is toxic, those people saying, "men can't cry," always exhibit behavior people have deemed as, "toxic feminity." The people using those terms are just using language to discriminate.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 09:50 PM
2

I didn't say they were, YOU said, "ThIs Is AcTuAlLy A lIsT oF pOsItIvE fEmInInE bEhAvOiR" So answer the question instead of affirming OP's view of men.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 09:45 PM
2

No, we're American, we're not expected to give up a seat for anyone, not even the disabled, first come first serve.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 05:53 PM
3

How are those explicitly feminine behaviors? Which doesn't mean that it can be good for a man to display these behavior patterns. Why wouldn't it be good for a guy to help his fellow man, and take care of himself?
/r/MensRights06/09/24 05:42 PM
2

The equality and equity feminism of CHS and Paglia has never enjoyed popularity in feminism. Those are the only real acceptable examples imo. Hook's Feminism is the closest, very popular, but it is is still filled with that positive/negative masculinity bs, and other sexist stuff lots of male blaming and infantilizing. So no, it's not, "a few bad apples."
/r/MensRights06/09/24 05:39 PM
1

Positive https://youtube.com/watch?v=GruFzUsKddI&si=1QiE5_XhaNSuVljr https://youtube.com/watch?v=slv1yzee_E0&si=Z5hQ6IBI8zkYHTDi https://youtube.com/watch?v=IzINu0wezWU&si=cBjPZyw_mQN5-Dvi Negative https://youtube.com/watch?v=8l3s2DdYR7o&si=uJTBxSU1v8nZIqCQ -this particular character was even worse in the books, stepping on and backstabbing his own kids and their spouses for his own goals. Generally speaking there's no such thing as positive/toxic masculinity/feminity. Looking at the people desc…
/r/MensRights06/09/24 05:35 PM
8

Hardly anyone calls it terrorism in the west, but the earliest example I've seen was of some British feminists trying to blow up a dam and flood a town for suffrage. That's the other problem, the terrorism isn't even seen as extreme because it's for perceived victims, many see it as heroic.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 05:30 PM
1

That link is to a charity, not a petition.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 05:27 PM
7

And she's absolutely right.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 05:03 PM
56

I'd like to remind everyone that feminism has actually made terrorists such as Valerie Solanas, and quite a few others who committed terrorist acts as a direct result of feminist ideology. While this woman took a couple cases of murder, only one connected (loosely) to, "masculinism," and wants them all to be considered terrorists.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 05:12 AM
6

Was that second guy also banned, because he actually said something pill people would say.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 11:06 PM
1

I gave you enough sources for a reddit comment for you to find them on your own.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 05:24 PM
1

As someone who speaks a European language natively, those names are historically male. And NO angels can't reproduce. They're created by God. Idk where you got your theology degree, but in the mythos, canonically, deuterocanonically, and psuedodepigraphically, angels cannot reproduce with one another, but can create half-breeds with human women, known as the nephilim. I'm saying this as a Christian, maybe don't use religion as a political point when you don't know the writings.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 05:20 PM
1

Roma Army is a bit hostile, but often shows some everyday sexism that's seen. -The War Against Boys- by Christina Hoff Sommers shows actual systemic sexism brought about by feminism and women's groups. https://www.c-span.org/video/?165323-1/the-war-boys Janice Fiamengo has a book or two collecting a lot of anecdotes. A lot of people recommend -The Manipulated Man- by Estar Vilar, but it's a very extreme viewpoint, and much Vilar's predictions were wrong. Warren Farrell says some stuff in his wor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 05:17 PM
0

None of those names are female names. And they are not asexual, they are very alien, immortal, and can only reportedly reproduce with human women.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 04:33 PM
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https://www.c-span.org/video/?165323-1/the-war-boys
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 04:03 PM
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Because people are finally realizing that women are just as dangerous as men.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 03:13 PM
1

You can't forget how to cry, it's not an on-demand thing, it's neurological, natural. Try some sad music.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 04:53 AM
1

Not really much advice. I wasted too much time listening to what amounted to nothing. There are actual doctorates in relationships, people like Ruth Westheimer, John Gottman, and Sue Johnson practically made the field. Maybe, and a very questionable maybe, it would be good for the pill people and mgtows. But I don't believe they'd listen. You've also posted it multiple times.
/r/MensRights04/09/24 11:57 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_commitment_by_country#:~:text=A%20police%20officer%2C%20doctor%2C%20nurse,commitment%20and%20order%20involuntary%20treatment. https://www.wikihow.com/Get-Someone-Committed-to-a-Mental-Hospital
/r/MensRights01/09/24 04:29 AM
1

It's terrible, have you ever tried?
/r/MensRights01/09/24 01:15 AM
1

It's still less barbaric than an execution. Even the worst of humanity has value as a labourer. Executions are literally just public spectacles, and do absolutely nothing to prevent crimes.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 04:47 PM
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The guy who is credited with the idea of deterrence suggested state slavery, they have value as labourers, if nothing else, and capital punishment just doesn't work. Such a thing hasn't been attempted in modern times but, the US in particular, has the infrastructure for it. We actually do have prison run by corporations, throw a few webcams in there, and you'd make the criteria Beccaria said should deter crime, the punishment must be both public and have a lasting effect on the public, that's wh…
/r/MensRights31/08/24 04:16 PM
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No one deserves execution no matter the crime. Beccaria not only believed it ineffective, but barbaric. The punishment of death is pernicious to society, from the example of barbarity it affords. If the passions, or the necessity of war, have taught men to shed the blood of their fellow creatures, the laws, which are intended to moderate the ferocity of mankind, should not increase it by examples of barbarity, the more horrible as this punishment is usually attended with formal pageantry. https:…
/r/MensRights31/08/24 02:03 AM
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I been unrepresented in family court Get. A. Fucking. Lawyer. Everyone has told you this.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 01:52 AM
1

Your actions and behavior affect more than yourselves. It's nothing but sociopathic to know that, and only take criticism from your peers. Whether you like it or not, it's not okay for the gays to engage in fear mongering against bisexuals, being a minority doesn't change the drastic effect that has on the other population.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 01:01 PM
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Idk who told you that being a minority meant that you're exempted from criticism, but they were objectively wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 12:52 PM
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Biphobia is not dependent on population or power hierarchy. Gay people stereotype just as much as the straights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 12:40 PM
2

And the gays are always upset about the heterosexual activities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 12:32 PM
11

Biphobia still be real, and prevalent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 09:00 AM
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They be right tho, it's a sign of an unhealthy society, and a personal skill issue for the lonely.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 08:57 AM
1

I've always had to wait, even in established accounts.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 05:46 PM
1

I don't understand how this gets a pass, but I had to wait a night for the book list for the MRM to be approved.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 05:43 PM
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He actually ran an mlm scheme dude, that is the sole reason you saw all those, "motivational," videos. It was mass manipulation by multi level marketing. He isn't a role model, he literally preyed on your struggles so you'd buy his dating class.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 05:27 PM
1

Corinthians overrall consist of Paul telling the Corinthian Church to do what they're told, not to hate a certain lifestyle. He was literally telling them to stop acting like the Hellenic Romans. Not to hate on their lifestyle. Proverbs 31 states that a good woman should both make money, and control the household funds as to make sure the household is stable. What I mean by ignored are not talked about enough not complete disregard, if they disagreed I would have Well have they gotten around to …
/r/MensRights29/08/24 05:13 PM
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Are you still in grade school or something? Yes, you used a personal anecdote to back your claim that men kill babies more. Then you moved the goalpost when someone challenged you for a source.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 04:34 PM
2

The Bible doesn't support everything the conservatives say it does. In the apocrypha, for example, that section of Genesis that all the puritans use to hate the gays, it is expanded on to show that the lesson was always support for a doctrine of sacred hospitality, practically the opposite of hate-the-gays. As for biblical gender roles, you talk about submission, but what does that mean? Do you give your wife all your money? Because that's explicitly what the Bible says to do, the old testament …
/r/MensRights29/08/24 04:29 PM
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You were arguing that men do it more. It is usually a step dad or boyfriend of a mom who does this stuff. You only moved the goalpost after someone challenged you on it.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 04:21 PM
3

Encourage male exclusive spaces and activities, and education styles that specialize in boys. That has been a practical answer since the crisis started in the 80s-90s. See -The War Against Boys- Christina Hoff Sommers.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 04:03 PM
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Alot of men do need therapy though, I'll say it's to a point where we should be saying that everyone needs it. I had a coworker who was almost 40, and had been in the foster care system since he was 15. He didn't go to therapy until the court made him and his ex go, because that's how divorce proceedings work in my state. He eventually went for one-on-one therapy, and it took months for him to mention to his therapist that his foster mom would watch pornography with him, and essentially pimp him…
/r/MensRights29/08/24 03:56 PM
3

The absolute monarch who bitched about his lot in life and did absolutely nothing to change it while having all the power in the world to do so. That guy? Get out of the stoic narrative, read some Cicero or Aquinas, or something.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 03:38 PM
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No one worth their salt says Andrew Tate is a good role model. If he's not an abuser and cheater in his relationships, he is definitely a scam artist, the whole reason people kept seeing his videos was because it was a multi level marketing scheme, and he is a terrorist sympathizer, openly supporting the Taliban with narratives of false history. There are the great philosophers, kant, Nietzsche, Aquinas, Cicero etc. Jordan Peterson, despite his detractors, is a decent role model, certainly bette…
/r/MensRights29/08/24 03:33 PM
4

Firstly, biologically it varies wildly. Secondly, this is not the place for incest fantasy. Thirdly, you sound like a very self-hating guy, and I suggest therapy.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 01:42 AM
2

Can it be called a time capsule when she was loud and open about those views in the times?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 10:57 PM
1

I'm not one way or the other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 10:05 PM
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It's not reality though, that's the problem. It's entirely the fault of different women's lobbies. We have no one on the inside.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 08:16 PM
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https://www.helpguide.org/relationships/domestic-abuse/domestic-violence-against-men
/r/MensRights24/08/24 05:45 AM
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Elaborate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 03:12 AM
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https://www.helpguide.org/relationships/domestic-abuse/domestic-violence-against-men
/r/MensRights24/08/24 02:32 AM
6

She no longer supports Medicare for All Whelp, I guess I really am going to write in Tulsi Gabbard, that was literally the only possible thing making me consider voting democrat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 02:15 AM
1

Selfishness and narcissism are not the same thing. Anyone who would go out of their way to disparage you over nothing is conducting narcissistic behavior. She likely had it out for you already.
/r/MensRights23/08/24 05:30 PM
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Don't know who FD is, and it sounds like I shouldn't care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 05:05 PM
5

Finally some good news out of the UK.
/r/MensRights23/08/24 03:50 AM
1

Idk what laws are in India against lobby groups, but this would be best done like that. Talking to politicians as friends is very powerful in the US. I want to create an association that helps men and boys who are sexual assault and domestic violence victims Talking to lawyers and creating a non profit to fund legal cases is possible. my association will hunt down rapist and abuser females and we want our society to know females are also abusers. What do you think? This is something you should n…
/r/MensRights22/08/24 11:17 PM
1

The US is the easiest country to do it, it's just that no one wants to put in the work.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 11:00 PM
1

Idk who Doug emhoff is.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 10:55 PM
2

He wasn't talking about gay pride, he was talking about policing free speech, down to the clothes a man wears, or doesn't wear.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 10:52 PM
1

What do you think of Dave Rubin and Blair White?
/r/MensRights22/08/24 10:51 PM
0

8) Stop men from being Effeminate 5) Cancel Pride and Parade Culture ( Whatever your sexuality is IDGAF just keep it in the bedroom not on the streets ) That is explicitly anti male, again, you must accept non conservative masculinity to make a group explicitly for men's rights and issues. What you're asking for is a radical conservative church group, and you can already find them. 4) Focus on masculinity and Being Powerful What does this even mean? Where is the philosophy, theology, the convers…
/r/MensRights22/08/24 05:03 PM
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-The War Against Boys- Christina Hoff Sommers Is a good start on why the MRM is wary of feminism and the women's lobby. It's not just that they focus on women, they have historically fought against men's rights, and to worsen men's issues. Preview, https://youtube.com/watch?v=hj719mKBIB8&si=xmA8XfCXXgD_DJ_f It is also available on audible, and in physical copies/e-books.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 04:41 AM
1

Only to a minor degree.
/r/MensRights22/08/24 12:25 AM
1

The very fact that she uses, and other feminists use the word, "patriarchy," is enough to say she's a hateful misandrist. Especially since her followers do the same in modern times, and still say that men are violent. As was with the recent feminist who posted her video here yesterday. And it would be appreciated if you would be professional and consolidate your comment, instead of sending 2-5 at a time.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 11:55 PM
1

I gave you a direct criticism of Trump conservatives, and explained to you how that enemy is not the same as the feminist, you said they're the same. The words of feminists, KILL ALL MEN Women will never be safe until men are dead. Being an incomplete female, the male spends his life attempting to complete himself, to be- come female. Etc. Even Bell Hooks, a slightly more sympathetic feminist, for every written sympathy, she'd make 2 comparisons between men and violent animals. This is the most …
/r/MensRights21/08/24 11:13 PM
1

That is incredibly disingenuous, I gave you 2 criticisms of 2 different antagonists against men, and you deny the first, and take offense to the second.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 10:56 PM
5

Feminism doesn't actually do anything, in a legal sense, for women, it's the lobbies that do.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 10:52 PM
1

Not quite. Trump follows the stoic view that emotion is weakness, he would expect women to cry because those particular conservatives see them as weak. They want men to conform to their rigid idea of a, "strong man." The feminist not only sees it as weak, they consider it ugly, and many enjoy it as it shows their, "oppressor," in pain.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 10:46 PM
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Who are you to tell me I can't wear pink, I am a man, I'll wear whatever I damn well please. A male society cannot exclude non-traditional men. Quite frankly, you only want a radical conservative group, and many already exist. As someone who would enjoy the idea of a neo-adamite group, with a bit less hedonism, I reject this evangelical puritan idea that men must all be as you describe.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 09:00 PM
3

If I were to place SCUM Manifesto on any reading list, I'd have write at least 3 pages worth of a trigger warning. That's what I'm trying to determine for The Manipulated Man I'll have to look up these other books.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 08:25 PM
2

I am debating putting that on the list without caveats. Her predictions and assumptions were largely wrong, and it has aged poorly. It is also needlessly hostile. I also debated putting -the myth of male power- up, it is essentially feminist apologetics.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 07:52 PM
2

The problems of the Duluth Model isn't a conspiracy theory, did you not do your research?
/r/MensRights21/08/24 06:02 PM
3

So feminism supports brainwashing, and is against international human rights, theories, and laws. Perhaps we should add that to the list of why the planet should be wary of feminism. And no, your sexism doesn't change the fact that men are not dangerous, and that many in prison, specifically because of programs of the Duluth model, are innocent.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 06:00 PM
2

The model that explicitly used brainwashing of possibly innocent prisoners to convince them that they weren't abused, and were the abuser? Did you ever once research how that was used in practice?
/r/MensRights21/08/24 05:53 PM
1

Real modern dating 101 -exclusivity is not expected, until it is confirmed. This is not a bad thing.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 06:14 AM
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The gender of an assailant doesn't matter, a criminal is a criminal. There are numerous post about violence against men, they just don't specify that the assailant was male. It would give ammo to the people insisting that men are violent because we're men, and it's wrong. The reason why people specify female assailants, is because the entire world thinks that the female criminal either, 1- doesn't exist or, 2-only acts in self defense, and is a victim. In the world, not just the west, when a wom…
/r/MensRights20/08/24 11:03 PM
4

You gonna be saying that when the UK's FBI comes knocking because you looked the wrong way at a woman?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/24 10:48 PM
15

It would only further the feminist anti-male agenda, when we speak about it, it is just called violence. To say, "male on male," is to affirm to the misandrist that men are violent because they're male. Men do not attack men, men do not attack women, criminals do.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 10:40 PM
0

He says again without pointing out his specific meaning.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 10:26 PM
11

Aside from the death penalty being completely ineffective as a deterrent, and morally wrong. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/anderson-county-texas-district-attorney-requests-execution-for-robert-roberson-despite-a-conviction-obtained-with-debunked-forensic-science
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:22 PM
1

That is not true statistically, and more and more victims of female rapists come out every year. That is also not how the male anatomy works, the brain doesn't need to be aroused for the penis to get hard, and yes, there have been cases where a women anally raped, or assisted in anal rape of men and boys. Nor is arousal a sign of consent. Such as feminist Asia Argento and Jimmy Bennett, where Bennett was 17, and paid off by Argento. She lured him to a hotel room, got him drunk, and raped him ora…
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:15 PM
1

No, men who rape are criminals. Men are men, criminals are criminals. The feminists connect men and crime explicitly to do this to you, it is the one thing that Estar Vilar got right, it is a mass manipulation. They do not do these things to protect women, or prevent rape, but to disenfranchise men. They do absolutely nothing about female rapists, and enjoy lesser to no criminal punishment, some even laugh and encourage it.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 05:48 PM
0

Men are taught not to rape, men are not criminals, criminals are criminals.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 05:16 PM
-1

He says with no explanation, or examples.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 05:15 PM
2

It doesn't matter if married men are happier, it matters if a married man is happy, and if a single man is happy, and we all have the free will to choose as relationships are extremely personal affairs. Same as women. "I wanted to state my terms, I do not care to work or live on any other's, my terms are a man's right to exist for his own sake." -Howard Roark speech from -The Fountainhead- written by Ayn Rand
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/24 09:25 AM
13

Have they made a threshold for, "extreme misogyny?"
/r/MensRights20/08/24 08:12 AM
1

Listen, we Americans have two real choices, they both suck. You bow to feminism and hope that Kamala puts through the safety-net policies the democrats always say they're going to make. Or you go with the party that has stuck with men in past issues, at the cost of those safety net policies that the democrats push, and abandoning some minority men. Idc at this point, I'm writing in Tulsi Gabbard. Join the Libertarian party for a third option, they're the best bet for a viable 3rd party, and they…
/r/MensRights20/08/24 07:28 AM
1

At least she admits it's equality, but for women.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:15 AM
13

Sounds like you may be a victim of the early education crisis. See -The War Against Boys- by Christina Hoff Sommers
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:13 AM
7

I don't think it's a grift, it's just low-key sexist. Something I've seen as a pattern with these Hooks'/Bell Feminists.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 06:02 AM
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I'm finding the Belle Feminists, or maybe Hooks' Feminists, are only slightly better than the Dworkinists. Things that this Feminist does, and I'm seeing a pattern with this subcategory. -continues using the word patriarchy, which is hostile to the male gender imo. -for every claim of sympathy, provides at least two things suggesting that men are violent animals. -only uses sources confirming their bias -fails to fully explain the point of other sources -insist on high male privilege. -uses soft…
/r/MensRights20/08/24 05:59 AM
1

I'd agree if I didn't witness it on an Irish sub over some kid's doctor visit. It was a concerning, but it was a week old, and that was this weekend.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 05:39 AM
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