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I have no problem with any of your personal beliefs. If a woman had written “all men are sexist pigs” you’re right, I wouldn’t ask for evidence because they didn’t say “men are biologically wired to be sexist pigs”. I guess I’m glad you’ve taken something away, but like I said I have no contention with you holding sexist opinions, just don’t pass them as objective truths or science. As they say, opinions are like ass holes, everybody has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:11 PM
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I think they speak for most men in as much as you speak for most women. If you believe you represent most women, should men still treat your words as if you do speak for all women? I don’t claim to speak for anyone but myself. I am merely echoing the sentiments that is passed around here. This idea that the men in our lives are faking it and really all think like the men of PPD. Obviously I disagree but that’s what a lot of folks here say. Men have an issue with high N count women lying and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:41 PM
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Please link the journal articles these studies are from. I'm actually interested in reading these when I get a chance as it's closely related to the field I am in. I also suspect these quotes with no citation are cherry picked and not reflective of the whole story. But just to clarify, nothing you've written here supports your assertion that "There is a genetic self defeating mechanism that always makes them [women] complain and unhappy." Or that "nagging, complaining, jealousy and crying" are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:55 PM
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Do you want to marry the men of PPD? Me personally? No, but supposedly they speak for most men. But honestly, what does a woman lose if she fucks some guy who lied about what he does? Betrayal and deceit is awful and usually results in a lack of trust in other men. Women who develop trust issues will have a harder time connecting with other men, so yeah you haven’t lost anything physically, but you’ve lost peace of mind and gained trauma and baggage to boot. Personally, that’s why I think women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 01:50 PM
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Yes if you have such evidence please do provide it because as far as I know this statement is not backed by science: There is a genetic self defeating mechanism that always makes them complain and unhappy. Nagging, complaining, jealousy and crying are not specific to women and not the result of any genetic differences between men and women. Again you can believe this is true without evidence just say it’s your opinion and not based in science. I’m not saying you can’t believe this, believe whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:13 AM
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I’m not being emotional you’re projecting and there’s no straw man here. I wouldn’t say men are perverts because that’s nonsense. You claimed there’s some genetics supporting your argument and there isn’t. Okay, so you don’t have a specific gene, do you have any scientific evidence suggesting what you said may be true? You literally made that up. You can say whatever you want sir, just don’t pretend it’s based in science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 05:28 AM
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Lmao. I called you out of your sexist over generalization stemmed in pseudoscience. Die mad. If you don’t believe science don’t cite it, just say what you want instead of acting like it’s natural law.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:55 AM
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I’m well aware of what genes are. In order for there to be a “genetic self defeating mechanism that always makes them complain and unhappy” found in women but not in men, some gene should be identified on the Y chromosome that prevents this “self defeating mechanism”. To my knowledge no such thing exists. Feel free to link your peer reviewed scientific articles indicating otherwise. Genetic makeup is made up of genes. Your LEGO analogy contributes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:41 AM
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It’s like the can’t hear themselves lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:21 AM
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So what gene on the y chromosome causes this difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:03 AM
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Well according to men of PPD you’ve now wasted a body count and are less marriageable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 02:14 AM
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Good and nice boy ✅ Study hard ✅ Become an engineer ✅ Maybe find a wife I’m telling him how to do the last. Also he’s an adult, he can think for himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:27 PM
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Por qué no los dos? Why can’t you be a professional engineer who also works out and takes care of his body? Spoiler: You can
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:10 PM
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Nobody said that. But just because two people are looks matched one shouldn't treat the other like they've something to prove in order to be worthy of them. It shows there's an imbalance. No one has anything to prove. Two people go on a date to get to know one another. Where’s the imbalance? I disagree. If he asks a woman out, his decision is made about her. If she accepts, he's eligible for the interview phase where he has to prove himself. This is what I'm trying to explain you, so if you didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:23 PM
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I don’t understand your example. Just because two people are looks matched doesn’t mean they have to date, fuck or LTR each other. If an average looking man asks an average looking woman out, it just means he’s interested in getting to know her. If she accepts, it just means she’s also interested in getting to him. He cannot know he wants to LTR or date her (seriously) without getting to know her first (and vice versa). He might already know that he wants to sleep with her, but that doesn’t mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:45 PM
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Not sure if you’re replying to the right person, but I’m not sure how what you said shows women are shallow and men are not. No one is looking to date someone they aren’t attracted to. In fact, I’d argue women are more likely to keep seeing someone who’s not that attractive to them initially, in the hopes that attraction may grow, which IMO is also flawed thinking but probably stems from society insisting women give every guy a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:59 AM
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Thanks for response. Interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:41 AM
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Sorry this was geared toward the OP who seemed to acknowledge that people mature and change. I don’t get the impression you’re coming from that same perspective, so your assertion is irrelevant to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:39 AM
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Lol those are not equivalently insulting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 02:01 AM
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Yeah I definitely agree that something would have to occur for you to grow up, but the OP cites “discarding delusions of grandeur“ as growth and I’d guess that applies to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:36 AM
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Surely this isn’t gender specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 01:27 AM
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Interesting, what are your thoughts on AF/BB? Women who ride the “cc” in their youth and then marry an ordinary/less attractive man. Are they just growing up and becoming realistic? Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:52 AM
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Yes, some men will never having any meaningful roman relationships in their life. Neither will some women. But even so most men are still dating, LTR/marrying, having children etc. So who are they settling down with if not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:10 PM
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But most people eventually LTR/marry, so few men or women are actually forever single. Who are these guys settling down with?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:59 PM
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But these women are dating men. Soooo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:51 PM
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I agree. I don’t doubt that for a second. I think there are plenty of women ready to be in relationships too. They just have to find one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:35 PM
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The average woman isn’t on tinder because they don’t need it. They can get hit on wherever they go. I hear this a lot but also hear men say they’re too afraid to hit on women in public because “me too” so which is it? The reason why the majority of people on tinder are men is because they are mostly men Please clarify. I don’t really follow this. and trust the majority of would enthusiastically be in a relationship and the fact that you didn’t know that shows you are swimming in the wrong pool T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:55 AM
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I think women enjoy sex too but most of the sex they’d get isn’t enjoyable. Some still will pursue it for some semblance of intimacy, but I think part of the reason sexlessness is rising among both men and women is that women are waiting more and more for something worthwhile. Unfortunately, male casual sex partners aren’t always attentive to your needs. Long term relationships is where men tend to make more of an effort. Like others said, I don’t wan’t a guy who “wouldn’t mind” being in a relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 04:00 AM
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Ahhh me? Yeah it’s not a common occurrence lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:32 AM
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Yeah that makes sense. If you always orgasm then an orgasm alone wouldn’t set sex with one partner apart from the next. I think it’s different when you rarely orgasm. Then having an orgasm becomes more significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:38 PM
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What do you judge good or bad sex based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:26 PM
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Lol which is the slut, which is the hoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:42 PM
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“during pregnancy” as in that’s when I gained the weight. Not when he’d leave. Edit to add: I have no motivation to come for you. It’s obviously your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:59 PM
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Again i did not say i would leave during pregnancy, what a strawman that is. Cool. I didn’t say you said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:52 PM
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Basically, try to make the reason you aren't sleeping with him quickly EXPLICITLY about anything other than sex. He can live with any other reason. Maybe make out with him early on and tell him you are super into him sexually, but you aren't sure you values match up, or your goals. Or tell him something else. I'm not really sure. And maybe it won't work and he won't believe you. I'm spitballing here. Your answer is quite thoughtful but the paragraph above really stood out to me because your ‘nob…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:03 PM
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There are incredibly rare issues that cause weight retention, then more common postpartum depression which is of course excusable. It’s neither rare nor uncommon. Most women do not gain and maintain 50lbs for a single pregnancy, 25-30lbs of weight gain is healthy. But while most women lose most of the weight within a year, few return to their pre-pregnancy weight. About a quarter of women retain 11lbs or more. Maybe after 1 child, being a little fatter would not bother many women (it would bothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:07 PM
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Yeah I would hope I wouldn’t get fat either, but the long term sequale of pregnancy is vast and varied. It doesn’t only happen due to a lack of self control. Personally, I wouldn’t risk it. I value my health and fitness too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:57 AM
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lmao sounds like dating a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:23 AM
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Certainly another aspect as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:02 AM
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You would have to ask all the men who complain about their wives getting fat after she’s had their child. I never said men wanted kids more. I said men (like OP) seem to overlook all the awful aspects of pregnancy that women have to endure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:00 AM
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That’s fair. And if you feel that way, then don’t compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:33 PM
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Certainly people need things, but a romantic relationship is not life and death. It’s okay to compromise, if you feel the benefits you’re receiving outweigh the risks or downsides, but not if you’ll be unhappy with said compromise. In that case, it’s better to be alone, but only you can decide what risks and benefits you’re willing to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:25 PM
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I don’t doubt some women are upset, but you still don’t have to pay for those women’s dinner at the end of the day. I’m glad you mentioned “not being good enough to inspire“ men willing to pay, because I’m a big believer in the idea that men who are interested will show you. A lot of men like to pretend like they’d never pay for anyone’s meal (and I’m sure it’s true for some), but most will gladly pay for someone “worth it.” Those women should stop complaining and just move on to find someone th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:44 PM
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Yeah I’m not sure if men are oblivious or just don’t care about these things because it doesn’t direct affect them. Then when she‘s overweight and has a low libido, they want to deride women and cry dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:24 PM
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If you’re on antidepressants that’s a good reason to not have kids too. Imagine the mental toll pregnancy and motherhood would take. It becomes even more imperative that you have a good partner if you struggle with mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:21 PM
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I agree with you somewhat in that nothing is guaranteed to work, but I think there’s still utility is waiting if you’re not ready. If a guy leaves because he thinks you’re a horrible human being that no one wants to be around then by waiting to get to know him (and him you) you’re giving him a chance to get to figure this out before sex. Then he can leave because you’re incompatible and you didn’t have sex with someone who couldn’t stand you. Everybody wins. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s ascertain…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:13 PM
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Interesting. I wonder what percentage of men would agree with this statement and if sexlessness can ever be solved with such expectations. Maybe men are setting themselves up for disappointment and failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:00 PM
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I don’t understand why men are so upset with women finding a compatibile mate. That’s what they should be doing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:45 PM
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Why is sex 3x a week the bare minimum? Where are you getting your numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:39 PM
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Mind if I ask why these responses were removed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:23 PM
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Are you German?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:26 AM
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This. I’m not a fan of marriage but I can’t imagine why anyone would have a child with someone they wouldn’t even marry. Children seem like the bigger event and larger commitment. I definitely wouldn’t have a man’s child if I didn’t trust him enough to enter a marriage with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:38 AM
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9/10 if you aren't actually being pursued by high-value men for a relationship it's probably because you are not a high-value woman. Is it fair to say men pursue women they find high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:36 AM
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I think different women are attracted to different things, but yes looks is one of them because women are humans. Don’t see any misogyny there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:10 AM
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Only misogynists thought what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:04 AM
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But they’re hot. If they’re dating Chads then they’re just dating in their “league”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:46 AM
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That's dumb. I made a lot of points previously and you just went "I know becuase I know" and then in your last post said You can have the last word; I am right and you're wrong. there is nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise. I have examined this issue for years now and I know that my viewpoint is the truth So clearly you're not open to any real discussion. So I think you lost the arguement when said that. Night Night.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 10:34 PM
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Yeah at this point we're just going in circles. You're delusional and bitter for some reason and there's not much anyone can do about that. Btw over "ideal weight" is overweight. Not sure why that's a tough word for you to write. Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:55 PM
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No, fat women think they're hot, prancing around like God's gift, and acting like they are thin when they're not. I can tell how they feel about themselves by the way they act. You cannot tell. They can feel however they want about themselves. Weird that you want others to feel like shit. Yes, it is a lie. Words mean things. "you're so gorgeous" and "HOT" and SMOKIN!" mean things. They mean exactly what they say - that they are telling her she is sexually desirable TO MEN. Yes words mean things …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:12 PM
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Case in point. Yeah you just ignore them. Her perspective is not the socially accepted norm. I think it's odd people go around announcing their preferences. Move in silence. No one knows why you're not dating them. If you put it out onto the internet, everyone and their mother will have an opinion on it including this woman apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:42 PM
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No. Fat women think they are hot. They think they're sexually desirable. They think that because of the HAES movement and the positive reinforcement they get, and because occasionally they can get a Brad to dump a drunk fuck in them. You don't know how other people feel about themselves. Besides, they are sexually desirable to some people. I'm not sure what you want them to do. Self-flagellate? Just don't date them. No. They tell fat women "you're so gorgeous" or "HOT!" or "wow baybeee, SMOKIN!"…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:35 PM
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Lmao. So much to unpack here. fat women think they're as attractive as in-shape, fit women. They are not. Not sure if you have someone in particular in mind, but this has not been my experience. I don't see this much at least not physically more attractive, they very well may have better hair or skin or something though which depending on the woman might actually make her more attractive than a woman who lacks these things. everyone lies to fat women and tells them they're attractive. When women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 05:18 PM
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Maybe it’s your city lol cuz I can’t say that’s what I generally see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 04:53 PM
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Sorry I don’t buy that for a second. Fat women are not getting egos because their friends commented “You look beautiful“ on an Instagram post. Most fat people know they’re fat. Fat women especially because society makes a huge deat out of women’s appearances. Also men are not women. They’re not lying to their friends when they compliment them. They didn’t write “I want to fuck you.” What we value as beauty isn’t always the same as what men value. If her makeup is bomb or outfit is stunning, of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 03:03 PM
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Most American women are fat women. Do you really see a lot of fat women trying to date gym rats? I genuinely do not. Just because they can’t rightfully complain about not getting a thin guy, doesn’t mean they can’t complain at all. I see fat women (again most women) complaining about the guys they date not respecting boundaries, or not making effort or whatever. Not Chad the gym bro won’t give me a chance, but w/e clearly you’ve had very different experiences lol. If you see fat women complain a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:45 PM
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I think you can say whatever you want, I just don’t understand why so many men hone in on “fat” women so much. Maybe they’re an easy target? Most Americans are fat, so it means very little at this point. I’ve been working out (running and lifting) just about everyday since I was 15. Why? Because fitness is important to me. When I see overweight men (most men mind you) complain about women not being feminine or skinny or whatever adjective of the day, I ignore it. They’re entitled to those prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:36 PM
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Sorry I don’t follow. If other women give fat women compliments how does that affect the heterosexual marketplace? If you want more body positivity among men, give men compliments too. Be the change you want to see. Why should women stop hyping their friends because you don’t hype yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:18 PM
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Interesting. I don’t think the ”loudest” ones complaining are fat women, but considering that ~70% of Americans are fat, anyone (male or female) who complains about dating or relationships is likely to be fat. If the only ones that annoy you are fat, that’s a you problem because that’s the majority. I don’t typically see “fat“ people claiming to want a fit or in shape partner, and when I do it tends to me men moreso than women. Still, fat women are entitled to their standards. Usually these are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:16 PM
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Are obese women your preference or something? Why are you so concerned with how they value themselves and what they’re looking for? Unless you’re desperately trying to date them, what difference does it make to you if they “price themselves out?”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:54 PM
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Women, society, community, pets, friends, etc. They need to be needed by all these?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:17 PM
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So when men mock women for saying they “don’t need a man” it’s because it’s harmful to men? Men need women to need them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:23 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:35 PM
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No need to invest that much time in this lol, but I do appreciate you sharing your perspective. I think you're not giving yourself (or your wife) enough credit. Unless she has said point blank that she was not/is not physically attracted to you, I don't see why you'd assume so. Not everyone is aroused by the same things. Just because there are more attractive men does not mean she doesn't find you attractive. Just my two cents, obviously I don't know you or your wife so do with that what you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:38 AM
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I don’t disagree. Of course sex is not the only aspect of a relationship but I think it’s entirely possible to find someone compatible (values/personlaity etc) AND be physically attracted to them. People find this all the time. Anyway, it sounds like she is indeed attracted to some parts of you since you satisfy her basic requirement. I personally could never enjoy sex with someone I was not attracted to. I get the impression she likes you just fine (physically). Just because she’s been with mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:32 PM
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Yikes. I’m hope she was attracted to some part of you...otherwise, why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:19 AM
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Or you can go with a different brand/product. One that cuts out the guess work and poor advertisement. I won’t buy a product if the only information I’m presented with paints it in a negative light. No amount of critical thinking will guarantee you’re getting the “product” you want if their pictures are bad. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to left swipe on a poorly presented profile. I cannot read minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 06:02 AM
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I think a more appropriate anaolgy is: it the advertiser's fault for not advertising his product well, or the consumer's fault for not buying poorly advertised products? I would argue it's the former; maybe you mispoke/wrote. Women are swiping left on men who are selling themselves poorly. How does one compensate for that? All I know is what you present. Anything else would be an assumption/wishful thinking on my part and almost certainly lead to disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:08 PM
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I think the problem is that what men ARE presenting leads women to the conclusion that they’re incompatible and therefore swipe left. I think you’re right in that you can get some vague/basic idea of what someone is like from a few sentence, but I don’t most guys are getting that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:40 PM
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How does one judge the man without know what he looks like? OLD is almost entirely based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:33 PM
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So fishing is adventurous? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:23 PM
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Most of the people who have met who lean towards separatists beliefs believe in black community not separating physically but like a cultural break that there should be a strong divide in what they understand is black and that the race has to be sort of restructured in purest way rather than a completely inclusive way. Interesting. Yeah I've seen some of that. At the current moment most African Americans that you meet tend to have the opinion that any percentage of black heritage is blackness bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 06:53 PM
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Conservative and liberal aren't really that place where black people make the divide most black people that I've met are relatively conservative on certain social issues and relatively liberal when it comes to certain economic issues but that sometimes that completely flips. I certainly agree for the most part. I didn't mean to imply a huge divide just that IME African American (ADOS) have a more accepting attitude towards LGBTQ+ issues than African or Caribbean people. It's the difference betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:27 PM
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Yeah that makes sense. If you're in more liberal environments, it'll certainly be less of a problem. I went to a liberal arts college for undergrad so I understand the vibe, but I'm also from a more conservative culture so my friends tend to be on both sides of the spectrum as far as social issues go. IME black people tend to be socially conservative (even more so outside the US but also in the US), so I was just curious about your experiences. Reading these conversations really allowed me to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 04:02 PM
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I imagine it’d be difficult to find black women open to dating a bisexual man (IME). Do you typically disclose this to potential dates? Feel free to not answer if you’re not comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 05:49 AM
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Very true, and even more true in reverse; a lot of modern women typically see traits that they value in high value men (success, wealth, ability to provide, alpha level confidence) as subconsciously something men value, or should value, and are frustrated by it. I guess I can only speak for myself, but I don’t get the impression that most well educated women are frustrated that men don’t value the things they do because 1) Well educated men do value intellect/drive (albeit not to the same extent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:35 AM
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I don’t think either is less natural or sincere. Money isn’t attractive for the sake of attraction. It’s attractive because it provides security. Security is just as innate to evolution and the pre-industrial world as physical attraction. Without security (safety, access to food, shelter) we’d die off. Money also signals other virtues (hard working, intelligence) that give information about character. Physical appearance doesn’t do this to the same extent IMO (albeit it does reveal some possible…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:43 PM
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Women can worry that they always need to look “beautiful” and that the minute their looks fade or if he becomes unattracted to her he’ll leave or cheat. I’d argue it’s worse for women because everyone ages, so inevitably she’ll lose her looks. Whereas a man with wealth could stay wealthy all his life (and usually do) baring unforeseen/tragic circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:33 PM
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That’s interesting. A lot of men feel the opposite. They see physical attraction as the only “real” attraction. I think mostly because that’s what they value most, so they think women should operate the same way. But I actually agree with you in some respects. Men are fortunate in that there are aspects of attraction/dating that they can control. If you’re an ugly woman no amount of money will help you. Some things are outside a man’s control like you mentioned but ultimately women look at an ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:21 PM
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Yes they can. No one denies that social and romantic relationships are important for happiness and the lack can cause depression and mental health issues. Depression and mental health isn’t simply a issue of having no friends or romantic partners. Having a strong social support network can help people cope with challenges in life, but depression in and of itself is an illness not a reaction to social isolation. People in relationships get depressed too. Many mentally unhealthy women get "healed"…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:00 PM
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Yeah they don’t want to hear logic. Blaming women is always easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 09:42 AM
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People can’t “heal” you. If you’re suffering from depression/mental health problems, you really should take a break from dating and seek professional help. I’m surprised this is so controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 09:26 AM
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The difference is you're the father. Sorry for the confusion. I’m actually a childless woman. I’m saying that’s the same thing I would say to a female or male child. Mothers don't naturally raise like that. In my experience most mothers are one of two extremes, they either coddle or they're heartless. Sorry that’s a sweeping generalization. Maybe you could clarify. In the scenario above, in which situation would you treat your daughter differently from your son? Why not parent both children like…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:57 PM
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This is just normal parenting. I’d recommend the same for raising a girl. What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:48 AM
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You have no proof, so noted. Sounds like you don’t have any proof either. It’s not relevant to my argument so I couldn’t care less. "That doesnt mean casual sex can not lead to commitment" So again how do you know. My argument isn’t that it cannot. I’m saying men choose when they want commitment and when they don’t. Not complicated. And? My argument was never that they are not? I know that’s what I AM arguing. You’re saying women pick and choose who to LTR and who to “give” sex and I’m saying so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:31 PM
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Yea thats what I thought, "no proof" was all you had to say. You’re just talking out your ass now. Noted. Do you know for sure that most men are not? Again how do you know? Casual sex is by definition...casual meaning without commitment. That doesnt mean casual sex can not lead to commitment, which op are you referring to? The one in the post or the one I was talking to earlier? Because the guy in the post was talking about dating not casual sex? Its literally in the title. Even if casual sex la…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:43 PM
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Yea and you followed up with this so show me how its wrong. Lol you can’t make an affirmative statement and then when I disagree asks me to prove you wrong. You made the statement so you need to back it up. Again, I don’t even think it’s relevant so I have no motivation to prove it. It has no bearing on my argument. You think it’s relevant so the burden of proof is on you. Do you know for sure that they are not or are you just assuming? If you do know that then how do you know? Are you suggestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:19 AM
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Like I said, we’re in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:37 AM
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Okay then we are in agreement. Men definitely do not act lOgIcAlLY as the men of PPD like to boast. So ignoring/cheating instead of exiting the relationship is in line with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:20 AM
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You are the one saying it is not so the burden of proof is on you. Wrong again. You made the first affirmative statement about the makeup of people having casual sex when you said: No, becuase where your argument falls apart is that the majority of men are not having casual sex but a small amount of men are but women are having the most casual sex than men. So no, the burden of proof is actually on you. I don’t even think it’s relevant. You do. Because it was op who brought it up It still doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:10 AM
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No, the majority of women are and a small amount of men are, and it does matter. Citation? Stats I’ve seen suggest casual sex is going down for both men and women and I’ve never seen anything higher than 50% for either gender. Why does the percentage of people having casual sex matter anyway? Either the men who have casual sex have “two-faced views” or they don’t. You clearly do not understand what I mean by "two-faced views on sex and relationships." I’m just going by what you said. If you’re n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:27 AM
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The majority of people (men and women) are not having casual sex, but that doesn’t even matter. If what you’re arguing is true, any man who has ever been in a casual relationship/ONS/FWB with a woman would be trying to date and marry said woman. Obviously that’s not the case regardless of the percentage of men having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:56 PM
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Then the “logical” thing to do is to leave her, not cheat/ignore her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:40 PM
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Men already do this so I don't know what you are talking about. It's women who want to flip-flop from casual sex and relationships depending on who the guy is. Like I said two-faced views on sex and relationships. But men don’t LTR/marry everyone woman they have casual sexual with. Sounds like men also “flip-flop from casual sex and relationships depending on who the girl is” no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:26 PM
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I literally never said this. Where are you getting this? I asked if that’s what he meant. The initial post wasn’t clear about what the carrot he was opting out of was. Edit to add: in fact I specifically said I support an affordable standard of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:35 AM
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All right. It sounded like you were chiding women for very valid preferences. You do you obviously, but I personally wouldn’t want to be with someone who didn’t find me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:35 PM
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I’m not sure where you got the idea that I want people to have shitty wages. I completely support an affordable cost of living. I just didn’t understand this reward system you suggested was and wanted clarification. So you’re not being denied jobs. You have a job but you don’t enjoy it so you plan on quitting/opting out of society because society didn’t live up to it’s end of the bargain...which according to you is? To give you a job? That you have? That’s where I got confused but it seems you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:31 PM
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Unfortunately sex is in the head for a lot of women. Attraction is also a sign of lifestyle compatibility for me as I am attracted to fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:05 PM
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Glad you have an active dating life. Why even complain? There’s no shortage of unattractive people looking for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 09:39 PM
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I see what you mean. Honestly, if men work less others will probably just step into those places. But I am surprised that single men spend less on cars. Maybe spending less on these traditionally masculine things is a reflection of a changing culture? Nothing wrong with spending time on yourself. I agree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:48 PM
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Why bother working if no one owes you a job? So are “you” being denied jobs or are opting out of working? I’m confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:33 PM
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I guess my confusion is with the driving motivation. It seems a bit circular to me. The previous comment asserted that men want to work hard and do things for society, so they can get jobs (i.e. work hard?) and be treated like a human being (I don’t think me are treated indecently). So they want to work hard, so they can work hard? Single men live a lifestyle that incurs less expenses than women because they aren't buying from a lot of indistries like feminine hygene or makeup that can tack thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:30 PM
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So the “cart” that is no longer moving is “working hard and doing things for society?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 04:21 PM
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Good men exist, they just aren’t attracted to them. Maybe. Maybe not. But attraction is important. I doubt you’re dating and pursuing women you’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:34 PM
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What’s the carrot?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:31 PM
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Yes, this is why “drama” is necessary. You need a partner who can challenge you, less you get bored. I personally am not looking for someone to “challenge me” just as I’m not looking for someone to challenge. Self improvement is something I’ll do regardless of the person next to me. I want someone with that intrinsic drive, not someone who changes because I “challenged” them. I’m not looking to change anyone, just someone to complement my lifestyle. Reality TV show drama. That nonsense over the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:14 PM
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Priceless 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 10:20 PM
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If you think perfection is attainable, and that if you had it you would be satisfied, than you might want to reevaluate your perceptions of human nature. Good thing I didn’t say this lol. Attainable or not, perfection is desirable and even in an “imperfect” (re: normal) relationship both parties should be aspiring to improve both individually and as a couple. I don’t like stagnation and I’m big on self development but to each their own. Im not referring to highschool bullshit drama. That “ drama…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 09:54 PM
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And even if there was, you wouldn’t want it. A little drama, that push/pull dynamic is essential to a healthy relationship. Nah. I agree that a perfect relationship is quite unlikely, but still very desirable. Why would anyone want drama? Drama is for the TV screens not your real life lol. I think those of us averse to unnecessary stress, find relationships cumbersome for exactly this reason. I value my peace of mind way too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:05 PM
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Fair assessment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:28 AM
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I'm guessing those guys who copy those women and put the weight stuff down, are reported by women for being 'offensive' and Tinder bans those profiles in response. Maybe if female profiles with height criteria were mass-reported too, things would change... Honestly this is probably the way to go. If it really bothers men that much, they could report it. But the end result is the same (with a few extra steps) That is, men who don’t meet a woman’s minimum height requirement are rejected after matc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:55 AM
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I never really understand the big deal about these things. If a man has a weight preference that would be a deal breaker in person (say <125lbs) putting it in his bio will help weed out incompatible people. I personally think it’s a bad look to put a height (or weight) requirement in your profile but I assume the women who want guys “over 6ft” are just cutting to the chase and filtering out guys they’d be incompatible with. Does anyone really want to be with someone that doesn’t find them attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:13 AM
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Well obviously if the options are “a bit of extra meat” and “some skinny guy” lol. I imagine most women prefer someone in the middle, so there’s probably not much difference between “a bit of extra meat” and “a bit skinny” emphasis on the “a bit” either way. Personally, I don’t workout regularly to date fat men but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 06:57 PM
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So we can get away with carrying a few extra pounds Isn’t that up to women to decide? Lol. A lot men really don’t think we can tell large arms of fat vs large arms of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:40 PM
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That’s not the compliment or win you think it is. No woman wants to be with a man who thinks awful things about her body but would still date her (i.e. fuck her). Sounds like men are pretty picky too but will put up with a woman they’re not that into for consistent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:31 PM
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Well, that's the thing. The men who don't attract women never really know why they aren't attracting the women. Their mothers tell them that they are awesome. Male friends don't sit around and evaluate each other. And women don't usually bother telling another guy exactly what is wrong with him when they reject him or brush him off. That’s unfortunate and I really do sympathize, but to be fair no one knows why any individual rejects them unless that person tells them directly. But here’s the thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:01 AM
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being fat tells a lot about a person, that they dont care about themselves and prolly have mental problems causing the obesity. Having a good well paying job tells a lot about a person. It shows they’re smart, driven, hard working and values success. a good looking guy can be unemployed and get girls. a unemployed man can just be down on his luck temporarily. A good looking girl could be fat and get guys. A fat girl could just be going through a phase or major life event that doesn’t allow her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 11:46 PM
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Maybe. Except that the view of men is that they are good, desirable guys who are being passed over because of ultra-hypergamy I think her argument is that the assumption that these men are good is erroneous and not necessarily true. Hence the “they’re not ass good nice as they think they are” statement in the OP. Being nice also doesn’t equate to good. while these women actually have done something wrong (gotten fat, had a lot of casual sex, had kids out of wedlock and couldn’t keep the guy arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 05:17 PM
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I think this kinda supports her point. Sounds like a lot of “Nice guys” are overlooking women who would want them because they perceive those women as immoral or simply for being fat. It’s a problem of their own making.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:30 AM
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That’s mad. I had to watch it twice to even notice the hair. Men can be so critical of women’s bodies. No wonder girls and young women struggle so much with their self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:21 AM
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Women are not a monolith and valuing one thing does not mean others don’t matter. Did you not write this (below) in your OP? They need to realize that multiple requirements are needed (being physically attractive and having a good personality) to get into a relationship. I’m agreeing with your OP. Women care about looks because everyone cares about looks and women are people too. If you didn’t know this it’s not because anyone lied to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:59 PM
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It's quite simple - when a man does the chores and cooking and it's not by choice or mutual agreement, but "because equality" it already means the woman has zero respect for him. Lol what is mutual agreement? If a woman works and does chores, what would be your rationale for working but not doing chores? Are you above it? Does the space you share with your SO not matter to you? To me the only person showing disrespect is the man in this scenario who would refuse (i.e. not mutually agree) to do c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:34 PM
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it makes no sense in this scenario for a man to commit to a woman when he is expected to do the chores I’m still not following. So women couldn’t work 100 years ago and men didn’t have to do household chores 100 years ago. So now women work and men work. So why should only women do household chores? Why do you think a man wouldn’t commit because he’s expected to carry his weight? Edit to add: If a woman is expected to work and do chores and a man is only expected to work, then who is really winn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 10:02 PM
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How is a woman working and doing the chores equal? Genuine question. It’s only equal if they are BOTH working and BOTH doing the chores. Am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:39 PM
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I think you’re giving them too much credit. People live in society with both men and women. These men have mothers, sisters, aunts, (hopefully) female friends, coworkers, etc. You don’t need dating experience to realize that not all women (or men) have the same personality. It’s just willful ignorance or an inability to see women as individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 09:04 PM
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Different standards =/= no need for attraction. It means men and women have different things they’re attracted to, which is obvious because we’re discussing heterosexual couples. So unless you think women are not people with eyes and arousal, why on earth would you think you should seek people you’re attracted to but she should look beyond looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 08:55 PM
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If someone tells you to be nice to attract the opposite sex, it doesn’t mean that’s literally the only requirement. Anyone who can’t see that is an idiot. No one needs to list every single requirement because 1) some are obvious and perhaps more importantly is 2) most are subjective. These men who think “society didn’t tell them” they need to be attractive to the object of their desire are being disingenuous because men approach women they’re attracted to as well. Why would you try and woo someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:33 PM
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You can want a partner of the opposite sex without thinking they are lesser than you. The crux of this debate is that men claim they want “feminine” women but bash femininity as inherently less than masculinity. Who wants to be seen as a second class citizen by their own husband? Certainly not I.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:08 PM
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They jump through hoops for sex not an equal partner. This different but equal thing is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 06:29 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 09:23 PM
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I definitely see where OP is coming from. That’s why I don’t blame women for the standards they have. Most men have paid for dinner/date or approached a woman they were genuinely interested in before, so expecting the same is hardly a crime. You are consistently punching above or below your weight Not sure where you got this notion If you want to fuck someone than you want to fuck them, if you don’t you don’t. I agree. If I wait for sex it’s because I want to/not comfortable yet. Not to gain any…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 12:48 PM
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I’ve never went extravagant on a date. It’s basically equivalent to the virgin woman that never had casual sex. I think the equivalent would be if you’ve never paid for a date at all This is assuming they’ve done that for previous dates Absolutely, but I doubt very many men with prior dating experience (committed or not) have never asked out a woman or paid for a date. Not impossible but if it were so rare men wouldn’t complain all the time about “having” to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:04 AM
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Who knows maybe she does come from penetration. Did you actually offer to go down on her or did she leave before you were able to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:22 AM
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Unfortunately for me, I happened to buy real quickly when we met up, and she dipped before I could make it up to her. So that’s my theory as to why she ghosted, but no way to know for sure. Her loss. Lmao @ her loss. Orgasm-less sex is her loss? All right buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:17 AM
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Yes. In theory this might be an issue but it never arises in practice. Men, people in general, make more money as they get older, so they tend to spend more in dating as well. This might be true if we’re comparing your college dates to your dates when you’re in your 30s but the difference between any two dates in a shorter amount of time is not likely to differ by salary. For example, the girl you dated last year or 6 months ago or hell even the week before me, all most likely dated you at a sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:06 AM
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You saw it here first folks, PPD bringing men and women together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 02:16 AM
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No complaints as long as you’re consistent in what you do. But AFBB where you give free sex to some men and expect monogamous relationships with others? I think people are allowed to decide what they give or don’t give to any individual partner. Should I expect that all men pay for my dinner or shower me with gifts if they have ever done that for another woman? Or if they would do that for a “Stacey”? Genuine question. Shouldn’t women expect consistency from men from men too? If a man has ever p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 02:13 AM
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I never said they were male dominated. Medicine in general is becoming increasingly female dominated. I said they were competitive not male dominated. But tbh even a general practitioner or internist can make 200-250k and work a regular 9-5. Not sure what fields you’re referring to specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 07:29 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 07:12 PM
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having women match and then initiate a conversation with me, that I ignored, was something of a rush. I guess you understand why women do it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:00 PM
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Nah it really depends on the specialty. Plenty of specialities allow a regular work schedule. We often joke that paradoxically the better paying specialties often have better work life balance, but are of course more competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:50 PM
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Different person here. I’m not in investment banking. I’m in medical school. I guess there are many avenues to financial success.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:19 PM
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If men don’t usually approach women then why are PPD guys always complaining that it’s so hard being expected to approach? Next time someone says that, I’ll be sure to remind them that everyone approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:50 PM
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If you have a good job there’s no need to work 80 hours a week to make money. I’ll be making at least $250k when I finish school working a normal 9-5pm. It’s not for everyone like OP said, but it’s doable and preferable to a dead end marriage. I’m not really looking to be a mother, but can we stop acting like it’s impossible to work and have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:43 PM
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Right on the money!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:16 PM
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Yeah the people on PPD have very strange experiences when compared to the general population. It really does seem like they don’t interact with very many people let alone women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:32 PM
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On your part...or? That’s the only thing that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:01 PM
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I did look through her history and I’m not getting that vibe although I can see how others are. But even if she doesn’t want sex, the point she’s making (at least in this case and many others) is not wrong. For instance, she didn’t say men should be able to have healthy relationships with women BECAUSE she doesn’t want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:54 PM
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Lol yes. Thanks for the correction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:34 PM
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Certainly a mis-characterization. Even in this post she’s not talking about not wanting sex. Rather about how men should be able to form healthy platonic relationships with women. Also this is PPD, are you surprised sex comes up often?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:33 PM
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You’ll have to be more specific as I have no clue what you’re referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:27 PM
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Exactly. You can be friends with someone with having candlelight dinners and sleepovers lol. I don’t even spend that kind of time with my female friends. It doesn’t negate the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:22 PM
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When I was debating divorcing my now ex/husband, one of the things that had bothered me was how he treated relationships with his family, friends and me. I agree. In my experience men with good relationships with their mothers and sisters make better partners. Obviously there are exceptions but I do remember reading something about how having sisters is linked with many pro social traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:19 PM
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What would you rather be? She’s your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:05 PM
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Lol she’s not even that controversial. I don’t agree with everything she says but she makes good points and points out a lot of hypocrisy in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:03 PM
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Lmao definitely the most interesting misspelling of “not to mention.” Likely autocorrect but thanks for the laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 07:24 PM
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I guess the same goes for a cheating man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:22 AM
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Ahhh so you’re just a hypocrite. Smh modern men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:14 AM
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Interesting. So if something happened to you and you couldn’t have sex, you would be fine with your wife having sex with other men? That’s understandable if you discuss it and both agree with that arrangement. It’s not okay, if he’s having sex on the side (as OP implied). It’s not about valuing or not valuing sex. I can only speak for myself, but if for some reason I cannot have sex and my partner is not okay with that, I need him to put on his big boy pants and communicate this to me and exit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:57 PM
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Whether it’s right or wrong cannot be separated from impact. Right and wrong don’t exist in a vacuum. It’s all out in the open If you’re not hiding it and she is okay with it then obviously there’s no problem. Same as if a woman is getting a sugar daddy on the side and you know about it and are okay with it. If everyone consents then I agree there’s no problem with either situation because no one is hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 09:17 PM
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That doesn’t matter. We’re not talking about how he feels. We’re talking about the morality. I’d argue that actions that harm others are more immoral. I wouldn’t be stringing her along nor would I break my vow. False. You are giving her the false impression than you’re in a committed relationship while screwing others. Definitely stringing her along and breaking your vows. I’m doing what I promised to do - stay, protect and provide. Her primary vows are to feed me, fuck me, and raise my kids. Yi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:15 PM
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Well, you’d break your vow and leave him for failure to support. No I’d break my vow but not string him along. I would allow him to find someone who’s better suited for him. Would you really rather stay with a woman who is cheating with a wealthier man? Not sure I buy that. I’d break my vow but stay and keep paying. A court will make me pay anyway. You’d only pay if you made significantly more than her, which isn’t always the case these days. You’ve altered two variables (money and sex) in this …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:39 PM
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Interesting. I would prefer a man leave me than have sex with other women on the side. I’m surprised you think the “morally superior” thing to do is stay. I think both men and women who are unsatisfied in their relationships (whether because of money or sex) should not lead the other on. Leave so he or she can find someone else or be single in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:04 PM
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she needs to understand that I’ve got to get it somewhere else Do you mean you would have someone on the side or leave her? The person above referenced both, so I’m curious which one you meant. I only ask because I think women should feel free to leave a man who isn’t financially supportive/successful but they shouldn’t have a sugar daddy on the side. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:34 PM
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I meant I’m not interested in any stranger romantically enough to approach, but tbh I generally don’t cold approach women either. I just leave people alone. Natural social situations (school, work, gatherings) have allowed me to make plenty friends throughout my life. I don’t force things, but I’m also not all that extroverted and don’t feed off of that energy so maybe that plays a role
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:58 AM
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Cold approaching is fine, and I think women would be better off in the dating world if the started doing it more There might be some truth to this but it’s more complicated. I can really only speak for myself but perhaps it’s true for other women. If men decided they’d stop approaching women, I would still not have any desire to approach a man. I’m simply not interested in any stranger enough to cold approach. Men seem to have a greater desire to approach/get to know/want to date/screw/whatever …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 12:59 AM
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Ok, tell me how you gonna have sex without a woman This is not what I said, but you’re wrong about this too lol. One can technically have sex with a man. What I actually said was you can reproduce without a gf. You can reproduce with anyone you have sex with. They do not have to be your “gf” eg. ONS/FWB/wife/Prostitution. Now that I’ve spelled that out, let me remind you that you missed the point of my post entirely. Having a gf (or sex) still doesn’t solve all your problems. Edit: The no sex no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 04:35 PM
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Yes. Sex is the only prerequisite for reproduction (and not even in all cases in today’s world). Conversely, you can have a gf (or even a wife) and not reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:48 PM
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Same could be said for men, but again most women are monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:26 PM
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I think you’re implying a gf “fixes” the reproduction portion of the equation. This isn’t always the case, but sure let’s assume it does. It doesn’t fix survival which in today’s world entails a great many things. Not to mention, a lot of people have other desires and pursuits outside just “reproduce and survive”. My point is there are a lot of “problems” one could have that isn’t solved by getting a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:23 PM
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By lonely, I’m assuming you mean romantically, and not lonely from a lack of friendship. “If I only had x, my life would be better/complete/bearable/etc” thinking is dangerous and in this case puts impossible expectations on a future partner. As cheesy as it sounds, you have to find contentment within yourself. Anyway good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 03:17 PM
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Is your only problem in life getting a gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 04:17 AM
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but women don’t care. Most women support monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 04:15 AM
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Shouldn’t you aim in your league (i.e. other 7s)?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:43 PM
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Literally the consequences of their own actions, but they aren’t ready to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:55 PM
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No lies detected
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:43 PM
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I think you need to stop looking to other people for validation. Like I said, my actions in public rarely have anything to do with my attraction (or lack there of) to people around me. It’s hard, but like someone else said, reading too much into these things really will kill your self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:11 PM
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I want women who I find attractive and who genuinely find me attractive to smile at me and not ignore me or look the other way when they pass me by. Ideally, they’d wink at me. I want this because it would confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that she liked me and would consider dating me or sleeping with me if we knew each other. What are you looking to do with this information? Is it for the confidence boost or do you plan on taking some action? I generally avoid making eye contact with anyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:47 PM
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Attracted to her or romantically interested in her? Why have sex with anyone you’re not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 01:48 PM
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Everything has already been said. If you’re still confused then nothing I say will change a thing. It’s a reading comprehension issue at this point. Go back and re-read what’s been written. And as far as “attacking your character” you set the tone for this conversation when you made that ignorant sexist comment about me being a woman and therefore illogical. At the very least take some ownership of that. Not sure what you expected in return. I’m just giving the same energy you gave me. No salt j…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:26 PM
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It’s not “she might not get what she wants in the future” it’s “she’ll be treated worse even NOW than if she were with someone attractive.” Again I implore you to read about halo effect and horn effect and how physical attractiveness offers privileges whereas being ugly brings about societal penalties. If you want to date ugly women, bruh go for it. That’s on you, and you should have no problem finding a partner if you no/few physical requirements. You’re clearly being obtuse and pretending like…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:46 PM
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I don’t know where you’re from, but here in the states men are not penalized when buying a home for being single anymore than single women are, but attractive people regardless of gender get societal benefits/benefit of the doubt. This isn’t gender specific. The problem is when I do list pressures/penalties, you decide it doesn’t count. You’ve clearly made up your mind and refuse to acknowledge that it is beneficial to women (but really anyone) to date/marry attractive people. Edit to add: If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:15 PM
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It’s not long term. Everyone is judged constantly. When you go to the store, buy a home, car, see a doctor etc. These are not “long term” and if you think they are then you’re clearly myopic and not a good planner, which I guess is typical for a man. You alone don’t get to define penalties or pressure. But of course, a typical man thinks he gets to make up shit as he goes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 04:15 PM
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Well attractive people are typically seen in a positive light (halo effect) and the converse is also true (horn effect). Having an unattractive partner and children will result in society treating you and your family worse typically unconsciously. It’s very well documented that we ascribe negative traits to unattractive people (horn effect). This also contributes to the judgement and pressure women receive from their friends to date attractive people. They assume attractive people are “attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 01:53 PM
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So what’s an “actual” penalty? Some may feel having ugly kids is a real penalty
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:41 AM
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Internal pressures and peer pressure is pressure too. What is real pressure then? Obviously no one will kill her for dating an ugly man, but that doesn’t mean there are no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 05:01 AM
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Judgement from peers, fear her children will we ugly, plus if he cheats/breaks her heart, she’ll probably feel worse than if he was attractive, because she took a chance on him Edit: also probably bad sex if you’re not attracted to him. Which isn’t fair to him either tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 04:28 AM
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I generally agree with you. Obvious displays of disinterest are just that—- obvious. I think it gets tricky when you make broad generalizations like “people don’t ever really warm up to you if they don’t like you out the gate” because most displays of interest are subtle. So what one might interpret as disinterest can sometimes just be shyness or caution or even differences in personality/upbringing. Anyway, it sounds like you meant more overt displays of disinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:52 AM
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Some women are shy and take time to “warm up” to people, but once they do their interest is apparent as well. Is this really any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:14 AM
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I’m curious do you also believe that men ask out women they’re interested in? If a guy doesn’t ask out a girl then he’s probably just not that into her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 06:01 AM
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