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It’s not that women are offended, they just get turned off because the behavior comes off as desperate, like you’re begging for any scrap of attention or sex. It also makes it seem like you’re not interested in them as actual people, just their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:45 PM
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Is it? I would assume many people would set their profile to private? Btw, I’ve never used insta.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:43 PM
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If I think about my ideal guy, he would probably be somewhere around 176 to 185 centimeters tall and have a lean, slightly muscular build. Not the super muscular, gym obsessed type, just someone who looks healthy and naturally fit. More like an athletic build that looks functional rather than like a bodybuilder. I am not really attracted to the dad bod type with a big stomach or the kind of body that just looks lifeless. Obviously being physically attractive plays a role in relationships, and if…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:07 PM
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I don’t do casual. I’m sensitive and don’t see the point in chasing something likely to fail. If I were into hookups, it wouldn’t be about guys I ‘couldn’t get’ but about finding someone I’m compatible with and trust. But I don’t do that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:48 PM
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Honestly, props for actually collecting your own data, that’s kind of impressive. Quick question though: do you have any example pics for what you called the “below average woman” and “above average man”? Just curious how that was defined, since beauty standards are super subjective. Also, on the achievements part, from what I’ve seen (especially online), most guys don’t really care about a woman’s accomplishments when it comes to dating. So I doubt that really affects results much. As for the “…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:41 PM
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I agree with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:22 PM
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I see what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:09 PM
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I seriously don’t get how taking care of your health and hygiene is seen as ‘gay.’ Like, who’s actually into someone who doesn’t shower, brush their teeth, or wear deodorant? That’s just gross. Is that considered high standards??? xD
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:04 PM
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I don’t know why someone is single. A lot of people are involuntarily single and looking for someone. I wouldn’t judge that. But when parents try to set someone up, I do get a bit cautious. It makes me wonder why they feel the need to step in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:26 PM
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Makes sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:46 PM
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Ah, alright. Would you agree with this statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:11 PM
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I’m a few years older, and honestly, I’ve always felt the same. I’ve only been attracted to a few people in my life. But when I look at friends, acquaintances, or even media and social platforms, it seems like most people experience attraction much more broadly. That’s never really matched my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:05 PM
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Even if that’s true (not necessarily disagreeing), I don’t have concrete data to support it. But from what I’ve observed, there actually seem to be more men than women on dating apps. That said, I don’t see how this disproves my original point, which was that, generally speaking, men tend to be more driven by lust and, in my opinion, are more willing to settle if it means getting sex. Obviously, I’m speaking in generalizations and based on personal observations here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:03 PM
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Dating is hard today, especially in developed countries. Apps create the illusion of endless choice, which makes people less willing to commit. Since survival no longer depends on having a partner, relationships are expected to truly add value. On top of that, men seem more lust-driven and willing to settle on average (at least in my opinion). Studies suggest men are happier in relationships and women are happier single, all of which adds to the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:56 PM
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As someone who’s not from the US, I’m genuinely curious, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:57 AM
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I hope you’re being genuine, and if so, kudos. In my experience, guys are usually friendly toward women they find attractive and often want more. That was the case in school and uni. All my male friends eventually admitted they’d date or sleep with me if given the chance. It didn’t mean they weren’t real friends, but you get what I mean. This idea is also often pushed by male influencers, which makes it more noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:52 AM
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I really don’t agree with the idea that a woman can have any guy she wants. What does that even mean? Women get rejected too. I know I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 10:42 AM
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I can’t speak for all women, only for myself, but personally, I don’t usually approach men because the ones I find attractive tend to make me very nervous. It’s not about other women at all. That said, I’m working on stepping out of my comfort zone and becoming more social. For context, I do get approached by men regularly and I don’t really compare myself to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:31 PM
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I’ve never really been offended by a guy approaching me — they’re usually friendly and give a sweet compliment, which is nice. But I’m usually not into strangers like that; I need to know at least something about a person first. There’s still that whole “stranger danger” thing. Dating apps don’t work for me either — they feel too 2D. I can’t connect with a photo or through texting. I need to see someone in real life. So honestly, the best way for something to happen would be through mutual frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:33 PM
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I agree with your observations. Most of these concepts that are posted here about women are projections or incorrect extrapolations that are made due to personal anecdotes. I rarely comment on these posts as I think they are a waste of time. Like I am in my 20s, I'm thin, my body count is 0. I don't use social media (except for reddit) or online dating and I don't have a harem of Chads running after me. Judging by some people on this sub, this would make me a fictional character. :))))
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:25 AM
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Smile, style, smell, his way with words and humor, intelligence, kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:09 PM
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It's the same for me. I don't feel any particular way about them and don't pay attention really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:11 PM
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I wouldn't say unattractive, I just don't feel any particular way about them. I need to have proximity and develop an emotional connection first. I wouldn't be attracted to an objectively attractive guy based on look alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:10 PM
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I'm female, so I can only talk about my perspective as I used to have a similar problem. For me childhood abuse, bullying and discrimination resulted in an obvious lack of self-confidence, healthy boundaries and a backbone. Being a pushover was an unconscious protective mechanism, I didn't want to offend people and would go overboard so that people would like me. Spoiler, they didn't. Therapy, hobbies such as languages and sports and academical success helped me to gain more confidence and re-ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:07 PM
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They might mean that you are a pushover/doormat and don't have healthy boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 05:59 PM
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I'm similar to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:20 PM
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I partially agree. Friendly vibes means that a woman doesn't feel 'chemistry' when it comes to YOU. The fact that she went on a date with you already proves that you met her look threshold in most cases. Chemistry isn't necessarily tied to "bone structure" or model looks. Chemistry for me is much more than appearance. It's the way the guy smiles, talks, smells, his humor, his body language and much more. And this isn't even necessarily tied to women rejecting men. People of both genders reject o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:15 PM
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What changed? What did you change? Asking seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:54 PM
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I think what they mean is to not to look for love everywhere and just to live your life while obviously remaining active. If you are a hermit, nothing will happen. I still don't like this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:56 PM
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But the overwhelming part of the population is within the average range, so why compare yourself to outliers towards both ends of the spectrum? Work with what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:48 PM
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Yes, there's a high chance that it could backfire, so usually I only complement friends or acquaintes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:40 PM
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I rarely find strangers sexually attractive independent of what they look like. I would need to establish some kind of connection beforehand. The last guy I had a thing for was working on a group project with me, so I had time to get to know him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:38 PM
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Exactly this. All these men were sexually attracted to OP. It's just that they don't want to claim her as they feel they are better than her and acknowledging her is admitting they are in her league. Really infantile and disgusting behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:57 PM
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Yes, this. Gives me the creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:54 PM
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There is not a precise time. It's the intensity of the stare, the persistent staring at you and your body even after being caught. A normal guy will look away once you have caught him, which is cute. Then he will look at you again to gauge the interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:19 AM
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I don't have a problem with men looking at me or even talking to me as long as they remain respectful. A male stranger once went up to me and told me that I had beautiful hair, I thanked him and we went on with our day. Another guy complimented my fashion style. However, I don't like when men are leering at me, staring me down like I'm a piece of meat. It feels very objectifying and disgusting. This applies to ALL men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:30 PM
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But sis, I thought 50 Chads were banging (lol) at our doors constantly. I'm obviously sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:28 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:55 PM
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Not really. I like the reverse harem genre and would never consider polyamory or anything like that in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:07 PM
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I agree with you. It's very hard for me to develop attraction to a 2D image of someone even if they are what society deems conventionally attractive. But if we interact IRL, have a similar sense of humour and bond over different things, it's very easy to develop attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:00 PM
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How I see it: She was not into you, but liked your demeanor/personality, so she gave you another chance to see if something changed, it didn't. Very confused with this one. Might have self-sabotaged or met someone else. I think she liked you, but didn't feel enough chemistry that would warrant a relationship. Don't take it too personal. Clearly these women liked your looks and personality enough to go on multiple dates with you. Finding a long-term/marriage partner is hard for everyone, so rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:50 PM
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I had 3 crushes in the last 5 years. The biggest crush I've ever had, was a guy I met at uni 5 years ago, I confessed, he ended up rejecting and making fun of me. The next crush I had was a teacher, I did not confess due to the fact that he was my teacher. I was instantly smitten with my last crush and I felt the attraction/tension between us. However, I decided against confessing, because I was in a foreign country for only a short period of time. I later found out that the guy in question had …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:44 PM
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Was not my experience, but I am also not from the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:01 PM
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I'm not trying to invalidate your experience, but your experiences also apply to women who were once ugly/unattractive and later became attractive. I think being perceived as unattractive is a handicap for both genders in all aspects of life and I am a bit annoyed that many of these serious issues are constructed as a men vs. women thing, when it's actually an universal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:47 PM
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Not really. I tend to like only one person at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:47 PM
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I don't think so many women feel entitled to such a man and I think that you are framing the question correctly. I think while a match between a lower income (poor) woman and a rich man would technically be possible, this usually doesn't happen as their paths technically do not cross. Men from rich families life in different neighborhoods, go to private schools and top universities, then they marry their femal equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:45 PM
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Precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:52 AM
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I think we have a misunderstanding. Even if a guy that would have chased me, doesn't, and acts like the prize to be won, it doesn't mean that I would be (more) attracted to him. That's not how attraction works for me at all. I have always either been or not been attracted to a guy within a short period of time. There's no point in chasing me if I don't like you already. Also, usually it's the back in forth between two parties that is exciting (for me at last).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:28 AM
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Well, obviously. You usually only chase after someone you already like so much, that you're even fine with possible social embarrassment, whether you are a man or a woman. If someone else chases you, you are the 'prize' (hate this word), the chaser views you as desirable, doesn't mean that you have to feel that way about them. I'm also not sure how it is necessarily tied to being extremely attractive. I've done the chasing (I'm a woman) and I've been chased. No one of us was a supermodel or anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:23 AM
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What's the age of the 'women' you are talking about? I was rejected by a couple of guys the same way, back when I was 18-19. I was bullied, insulted, laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:54 PM
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I don't think having a type is such a rigid construct, people fall for people outside of their type all the time. I'm not sure how that would affect your mental health either. Now being an unattractive nobody and holding out for a celebrity (fe)male supermodel type of partner is pure delusion and sign of mental illness in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:14 AM
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Totally agree. I had a crush on a classmate once. My best friend claimed he was ugly and too soft for her taste, not her type at all. She tried to play wingwoman as I was way too shy to even talk to him as I have self-esteem issues. The guy in question started obviously showing interest in her and even helped her to get a job. Suddenly she was talking nice about him and her demeanor completely changed. They hung out together at some parties and I'm pretty sure there was at least some heavy flirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:29 AM
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I agree. I think OP has a very male-centred way of looking at things. Many men will look for an attractive mate as a status symbol, which they can show off. As a woman, I never really felt that way. Even if my boyfriend got lots of attention, I wouldn't make me feel any type of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:45 PM
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No, not really. If I like a guy, I like him independently of whether my parents, friends or coworkers deem him attractive. If the girl was your friend already, she was probably jealous, but not in a romantic way. The prospect of you having another potential mate, will reduce the emotional labour, time and any other favours you will do for her as her friend. If she wasn't a friend before, she might have liked you all along, but now due to the interest of the other girl, felt the need to express h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:39 PM
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My opinion only: I don't use dating apps as I don't like their transactional nature. I don't like this artificial way of getting to know someone. 2D pictures of even the most attractive men do nothing for me. I prefer to meet men in real life. Usually through school and work. Most of the couples I know also met through school, free time activities or through other friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:18 AM
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No, why? If a guy I liked confessed, I would say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:26 AM
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The splitting of the bill is not a problem. I would always prefer to split the bill on the first date, so a guy doesn't feel entitled to my body after the date. If I had plans of seeing him.again, I would still split the bill on the first date and invite him to another date. As for choosing a restaurant without taking any of my preferences into account, I would be pretty annoyed. Maybe I have an allergy, gluten intolerance or phenylketonuria ... There is a lot of food I don't like and if he chos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:11 AM
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I am not from the Anglo sphere and only read about your parody level gender relations on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:13 PM
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A personality outside of the norm, special interests, not conforming to gender norms,.f.e. expressing yourself differently, being stoic and not emotionally warm as a woman, which is often expected. Feeling like an outcast and behaving in such a way due to past experiences, perhaps autistic traits. I am writing this with my own life and my observations in mind. Whether you view these things as something positive, is your own personal preference. For me, all the other things I have listed so far h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:57 PM
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Absolutely the first option for me, probably on of the best experiences one could ever have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:42 PM
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Definitely. I'm sacred of opening up and showing my emotions as they were used against me. Couple this with year long bullying from my dad, which resulted in very negative self esteem. Now I am a loner that has a hard time connecting with people in the 'normal' way. This goes for all types of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:18 PM
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As a woman, I think this goes for both genders. Being unsuccessful in dating isn't necessarily about being physically unattractive or having some moral flaw of character. Sometimes it's the wrong location and time. Sometimes it's a shy and reclusive or even non-mainstream personality, low self esteem, trauma and mental illness or all of the above, which need to be worked on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:14 PM
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I honestly don't mind assuming he is otherwise well adjusted. I would worry about him wanting to catch up his lacking experience with other women later on though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:10 AM
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Non existent. I'm an introverted home buddy, I hate loud noises and parties and big gatherings with new people. Online dating apps do nothing for me as I'm not attracted to 2D images. Attraction is more than just appearance for me, it's how we interact, their personality their voice and smell. I also suffer from self esteem issues and I have a hard time reading and expressing my feelings and emotions, so I often come off as cold and aloof. I also fear being rejected, so I can't show interest eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:14 PM
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