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articleIndividual-March8163/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/21 10:51 AM
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The first one is actually men and women doing it, look at any thread about a mother killing thier infant because of post partum depression
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:01 PM
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Emotional labour is a term meant for service workers twisted into something else and dv is not relevant, women just ignore all the work guys do in a relationship; making the first moves, taking out, paying, buying and making gifts, support such as consoling and reassuring (believe it or not guys put in emotional work too!), to make it look like women do all the work in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:59 PM
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Nope plenty of women have sexually assaulted guys when e's not intoxicated
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:54 PM
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I won't do that when you're implying it's impossible for a woman to rape a man by overpowering him. That was obviously a reference to physical overpowering
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:51 AM
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No one said this situation happens all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:48 AM
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This "rape is when you're overpowered" myth has got to go. Rapists often intoxicate thier victims which is why they can rape them, that's how male and female rapists r*pe thier victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 09:29 PM
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No they're saying that can happen if you try and push off a predatory woman, which is not an unreasonable assumption to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 09:26 PM
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False accusations have literally happened in the real world, what are you on about lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 09:10 PM
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You didn't read his post well enough he's referring to pregnancy being a guarantee for women that the kid is thiers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:57 PM
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You're the one obsessed with this topic. What are hospitals gonna do with your DNA? Lmao, phones have facial, voice and touch recognition, police have databases for criminal fingerprints and you're worried about DNA being used to judge paternity? Just say you wanna hide your infidelity and go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:56 PM
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What rights to privacy is lost? The right to hide possible infidelity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:40 PM
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That is not true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:38 PM
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Are you thick? Ofc you'd know that the baby is yours bc it comes out of you, men don't have that confidence, you missed his point hard
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:38 PM
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You mean a trad wife request? Crazy how this is a "mommy bangmaid" request
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:09 AM
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Relevant article: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:07 AM
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How is it either?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:06 AM
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Thier mother, peers and female friends told them to "just be nice"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:06 AM
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If you're the one making comments about guys' dicks, you're the obsessed one
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:05 AM
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Not really lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 01:19 PM
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I have female friends and they don't say this shit especially not to me bc they're not assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:44 PM
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Don't they pretty consistently show men have less sex and less partners than women? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:41 AM
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How do you know 9x out of men "it's a joke"? Especially on twitter they're not joking lmao, that place is misandry central. Men who makes him jokes like that are usually misogynyists, kinda supports my point 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:37 AM
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It's an actual recorded phemonemon made from studies started by two women: "https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:32 AM
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If the joke is you hate men, you still hate men, and I'm sorry you can't speak for all women, if you keep saying you hate the other gender, you hate the other gender end of. Stop defending misandrists you're being pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:28 AM
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Of course those women usually love women. It's men they hatem
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:27 AM
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That's stupid logic because you're blaming entire demographics for what a wealthy powerful minority of them did. It's bigotry end of, and makes them no better than incels
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:23 AM
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That does not count as the first move lmao, unless you don't say anything, you aren't making a move, men will just assume "ah she's just being nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:46 AM
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"I've seen quite a few feminist driven initiatives that aim to tackle male issues." Which ones? I haven't seen any other than "delearning masculinity" which obviously doesn't count because that's not made for men's interests in mind "What events are you thinking of? Only ones that come to mind is men's shelters (which is fucking ridiculous)." The women's center opposing men's center bc the idea "made them feel unsafe ", cancelled an international men's day, protesting men's events in Toronto uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:55 PM
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Feminism also claims to fight for men's issues which they have categorically failed to do, resulting in justified frustration from men. They obviously don't want a men's movement because they oppose and protest any men's event and say they are the only one who can help while proceeding to do nothing. Also very telling that you use feminists and women interchangeably as they are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 01:20 PM
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Nope white men are more likely to be killed than you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:52 PM
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Oh ok full mask off lol, you don't care about men's issues if you think men are a problem lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:50 PM
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Why? Feminist constantly lecture men that they are best for solving thier issues yet when men expect them to back up thier claims it's outrageous?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:49 PM
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I can tell you don't know men very well with this take
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 02:57 AM
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Women are taken more seriously than men when it comes to sexual harrassment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 11:01 PM
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For what consensual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:10 PM
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And the guy gets blamed regardless of how drunk both parties are
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:09 PM
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Honestly men are the only demographic it's acceptable to treat like this, imagine if the media tried this with women or black people there would be an outrage. But men it's fine and an easy scapegoat, because any man objecting to it is shamed and mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:16 PM
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Most witches burned are men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:13 PM
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Most women wouldn't want to be with a guy that doesn't have many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:11 PM
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The fact you assumed he's a terrible person because he said he experienced rejections because of his height proves the problem with short men never being able to discuss thier experiences without scorn and people gaslighting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:53 PM
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The point is he doesn't find people attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:39 AM
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I really don't agree with that guy about lots of guys are garbage lol, most men are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:01 PM
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If my nan had wheels, she would be a bike... She's not average anymore if she's fit lol, average men want average woman, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:55 PM
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I'm gonna post a comment I made in response to women downplaying thier dating advantages, as I think it might be relevant here: Contrapoints is a trans woman and she's dated as man and as a woman. She's admitted she prefers the dating experience of a woman because she gets more attention that way. This woman tried tinder as a man and was convinced she would be successful because she knew what women wanted to hear. She was completely frustrated after a few days with the lack of matches and one ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:17 AM
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And actually the "women attempt suicide" stat is very misleading because it counts hospitalizations for any self-harm-related injury, no matter how obviously sublethal and not with suicidal intent are categorized as suicide attempts. /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/giroe1/comment/fqgt5ze/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:07 AM
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Hmm looks like the article title is lying for clickbait then, because the woman is actually the one bothered lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 06:37 PM
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You have no no comeback because I'm correct, all you can do is insults like a little child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:13 PM
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Bruh why else did she leave then? YOU are the one trya think you can read her mind and trya make her look good. You don't know shit and making assumptions. I'm actually listening to his words, you are not. You are a pathetic white knight defending a woman when she's in the wrong and picking on an 18 year old and making him doubt himself when he was the victim. And the smugness at the end of it, ironic because you're so stupid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:12 PM
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Imagine being arrogant enough to pretend to know more about his situation than him and to twist it to make him the bad guy based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:17 PM
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They got proven wrong by the group of women who made those comments. That's the meme. They themselves generalised by speaking for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:09 PM
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They get raped, it wouldn't say that counts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:03 PM
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You shouldn't be expected to coddle your girl's emotions when talking about a death in your family. It's your trauma, imagine tone policing a woman when she's opening up. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:45 AM
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Imagine blaming the guy for taking the woman at her word 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:41 AM
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Dude you suck, she dumped him because because he opened up about a family death even though she said talking about his emotions wouldn't change anything and you're blaming him?! What an asshole. If you can't open up with a partner without them running away especially if the partner said before opening up is fine, than you're better off without that partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:33 AM
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And call you gay as an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:28 AM
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I mean we don't see most women as unattractive unlike women do so this scenario isn't that likely, and not swiping right is not the same as saying ew lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:05 PM
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It also said women do the same.., albeit to a lesser extent, but at least men can be more objective in thier attractiveness rating. And what this shows is that men pursue people they are attracted to more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:37 PM
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You literally have an opinion too 😱 Nope YOU think that men are dumb, the fact you had to gender stupidity that made it clear. And how is it not true? 80% is most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:31 PM
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It's an interpretation based on the facts lol. And your misandry is showing. I think the researcher knows what he's talking about and it's a fair conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:27 PM
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The data shows women also pursue men higher than them... except they consider 80% of men unattractive, suggesting they pursue the top 20% if what they pursue they consider attractive. So it's hardly a shock, everyone dates up, just that women have a much higher standard for what they consider "up".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:19 PM
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"the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren’t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway.” I'm pretty sure this is way more unhealthy lol, isn't this how incels think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:17 PM
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https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADL9ODDEs6Jef_lo1HkWZRoQzR9ZDvbLZKeDvPXMG5qstYrMCJY8RmDNtRPLEtvuh_8XL3Z7VRrrFrvF3X-jX4_n0wCio7RcWhyWCiIdnXlKPN9Q2tNOey0KG7r1WqTJ8akggFdHkC2u0yN34YrVn3IFKkQ9i5vzgZbUuDYl6mNn&guccounter=2 Lmao they were ugly according to the women, they thought 80% were ugly. “As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:55 PM
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And also showed men have a much healthier guage of attractiveness compared to women. Works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:49 PM
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Eh I take the dating app statistics over a meme lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:48 PM
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How is this hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:47 PM
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80/20 right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:45 PM
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I don't think expecting for human compassion is "entitlement", and he didn't say only women are loved unconditionally. I mean you just say my sympathies like an adult, you don't have to use baby talk lmao. And I would feel sympathy to the female equivalent, I would feel bad that men were mean to you. And this isn't a self made problem, it's clear who's in the wrong in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:29 PM
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You moron, there's a reason why female officers are advised to have male partners with male suspects, they aren't strong enough to hold them down. Are you seriously gonna pretend that there isn't a huge strength disparity between men and women? And what are you on about, one case means all male officers suck? Lmao I'm pretty sure female police officers have done the same thing, I'm talking about a specific situation. When did I say any of those things. You seem really manic are you okay? Maybe c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:25 PM
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He's complaining more about the lack of basic human empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:26 PM
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I'm doing my STEM degree now and the only events I've been recommended based on computer science has been "Feminism in Data" and a girl's only coding competition. I'm male. The lecturers also highlight gender frequently for group coding, they told us to look to make our groups more gender diverse. You're in denial if you don't notice there have been massive efforts to help women in STEM while no support have been given to boys and men in education despite the fact they've been underperforming fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:24 PM
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Speak for yourself my best friend is female and I have never been with her because of sexual interest, I was with her because of her personality. A clickbait article ain't gonna change the fact men can and have platonic female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:19 PM
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What is this nonsense? Female police officers also cannot hold male perps, there's several videos of men escaping from female police officers. That's your argument? Lmao, stop this silly gender war nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:17 PM
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Yeah that's not what's happening lol, by RP's logic women are people so why do you guys get pissed by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:10 PM
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Like I told you, it's even harder to prove false accusations than true ones, and in practice the person tends to get off lightly if any repruccisions. And how could you prove it socially? People will still believe you are a rapist, you just got off, lucky, that reputation will never leave you, and obviously the person telling the lie is not banking on them being proven wrong. There are consequences for every crime, doesn't stop people from doing it funnily enough. It doesn't make sense to you be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:17 PM
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There's no repruccisions for false allegations so they can just walk away Scott free with no jail time, it's a win win for them. For the LAST TIME, THESE ARE THE REASONS THAT WOMEN WHO MADE FALSE ALLEGATIONS GAVE FOR DOING IT. God's sake at least acknowledge that, this the third time I'm saying this. If you're gonna ignore that again don't bother responding. And social validation on social media? Have you been under a rock with how much support women who told thier stories on MeToo got, no decen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:23 AM
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If they spread it on social media with your name perhaps? If they press charges? If this reaches any of your coworkers? This will ofc reach your employer, don't be naive. And yes women will make false accusations for those "limited people", because if they don't make a report it wouldn't look believable. If the sex wasn't consensual they weren't being "slutty". Other reason is because they regretted sex. Again you're arguing with reality, these were the motivations found when asking these women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 09:44 AM
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"More of us want to date a man who'd a great lover, a close friend and a reliable partner all in one. " Most men can be this, they are just invisible to women because women don't find them attractive. 80/20 and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 09:43 PM
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I said one of the reasons, and that will still reach your employer if rumours are flying around lmao. Aren't great is an understatement, this isn't rumour about who nicked the milk in the office fridge, this is about sexual harrassment, tad more severe. It doesn't matter whether you doubt it or not, it's one of the reasons found from false allegations, research motives for false allegations to find out or maybe meet those women and ask why they did that for that reason? People lie to save face. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:06 PM
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Because men have experience approaching women, women don't hence the fisherman analogy. Women don't know how to approach, successful men do have good experience. It reflects the gender roles in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:20 PM
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I mean their clearly is if it keeps happening lol, there's motivations for every crime, people don't commit this for no reason. One common one is to hide the fact they had sex with someone, back in the day white women would say it if they were caught with a black guy to keep her reputation intact. And many of them happen without any intercourse, and rumours spread through school can be potentially devastating. Of course as a woman, you don't need to consider the risk but men do, hell even my par…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:43 PM
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If it's so easy, why can't women do it too genius?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:12 PM
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Have you heard of the concept of "false accusations"? The consequences can be life ruining for men and there's so many examples of that happening
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 02:06 PM
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Or thier platonic female friends, mothers, grandmother's, aunties, sisters, daughters, neices etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:39 PM
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Omg the female privilege to classify it as moderate embarrassment.... For men it's possibly a career ender
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:35 PM
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Fine regardless nothing would change because don't make the first move Also kindness ain't just compliments, they can be fake at times, and those stats are pretty similar an matched by women leaving when the husband loses his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:32 PM
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Or just refuse to approach period and force women's hand to approach for once? Would be interesting to see
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:05 PM
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Surely then they can understand why men are reluctant to make the first move? The reasons are the same!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:00 PM
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You're never gonna have the same fear of being accused of being a creep. It's just not the same situation. It's something you would understand only if you are a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:58 PM
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They are kind to other men and women. Doesn't change the dating dynamic if women don't make the first move like men have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 12:54 PM
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Approaching someone is not sexual harrassment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:01 PM
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That doesn't make sense though? Sex is an act between two consenting adults, how is one using the other in that context?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:23 PM
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Well you responded like that to someone saying sex so I thought that was your view on it. Sure basic human respect but you're not entitled to anything more. More can happen, it may not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:59 PM
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Erh how is that a struggle for women when everyone experiences that? Don't get be wrong I'm not tryna be rude, I hope you get that guy! But like this is someone everyone had to face and even a better chance for women like you say you just have to get him to make the move. Guys don't have that option. You can do more than guys actually. Ask him out! I'm rooting for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:45 PM
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That's a depressing view on sex you have, one night stands can be fun. And how is he using you if you agreed to do it? Why do you feel entitled to a relationship just because he has sex with you?You sound like a female "nice guy". Do you just not enjoy sex or something? And even people in relationships have sex lmao, are they using each other then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:39 PM
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So you've tricked women into admitting thier preferences? Genius post man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:32 PM
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Not the same thing tho is it, hypergamy is looking for someone above your level, looks match is more realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:32 PM
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It's funny how some women unironically think like this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:23 PM
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Generally I'm a bit more cautious around female friends and treat them softer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:15 PM
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Ok fds bot account
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:00 PM
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Ok FDSer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:59 PM
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It's not supposed to be contradictory, it's showing what actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 11:35 PM
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I mean yeah, I have to mostly initiate convos, meetings and calls with my female friends which I guess can be draining but never giving them rides or taking them out, giving them money and delivering food and groceries tf? That's just sad man, at least see if they reciprocate stuff for you, mine takes me to out eat (split bill), sometimes and invites me to stuff. Any men in those "friendships" should just cut them off or communicate this, that is not a healthy dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:40 AM
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Yeah that's not what men want, he was talking about men, you're talking about a minority
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:37 AM
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If thier experience is so bad they'd prefer being a sex toy, not hard to emphasize if you're not a sociopath
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:25 PM
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They are at the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 11:17 PM
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Making the first move, planning the dates, paying for it, buying gifts, initiating everything tbh, god I wish I was a woman in the dating world, and have none of these expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:59 PM
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Lmao 70% of non reciprocal violent relationships have female perpetrators
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:58 PM
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Then why is one expected to pay for the other? Seems pretty unbalanced there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:57 PM
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Exactly, some women aren't desirable either so surely by that logic, women should pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:55 PM
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Some men? This is expected even of the highest value men, it's clearly a gender role thing rather a desire thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:54 PM
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He said finding a partner not sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:53 PM
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This isn't addressing my point. This stigma is there regardless if you're respectful or not, e.g. I didn't even ask out a girl I liked yet, I said hi, and she said she felt uncomfortable talking to me and blocked me. Thing was this was a complete 180 from us talking well for the last few weeks and I was very courteous. It just kinda sucks feeling like you have to walk on eggshells. And also she can still think you're creepy and tell her friends that so that's what you're known as regardless of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:34 AM
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Because they say it behind your back to their friends or on social media, and also there's a difference between being social and being confident. You don't need to be either to accuse people of harrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:28 AM
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Ah yes women on Twitter aren't real. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:25 AM
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It's harmful for your psyche and she'll tell her friends and you'll be known as "the creepy guy", you're being very naive here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:23 AM
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You realise you can be insulted even if you're polite right? Then it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:21 AM
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Obviously false. Don't make absolute statements like this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:20 AM
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She's a woman mate she has no idea or experience what's it's like to interact with women in romantic contexts, what would she know about the social ramifications or possibility of being called creepy? All it takes is one group chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:19 AM
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Okay but you're dodging my point, misjudging the acceptable time to ask a woman out should not be considered harrassment if the woman doesn't like him like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:16 AM
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How does it sound like that? All I did was explain my experience, I don't anyone to see me as a victim, but I guess you've already made up your mind about that 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:51 PM
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I'm not saying what your opinion on it is, it's just any unwanted approach is considered harassment nowadays including that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:07 PM
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How cute, you think asking them out unwanted isn't now considered harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:52 PM
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Well how does that fit me into category 1? The prank ended up in me being sexual harrassed so it was pretty traumatizing for me. And again with the weird assumptions. You want me to be the problem so bad lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:44 PM
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A guy who essentially says "omg! You are the most gorgeous creature I have ever seen and I will gladly eat your shit just to see the hole it came out of" or something along those lines How? I've never said anything like this? I've just made conversation, this seems like confirmation bias for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:49 PM
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Act like a normal guy I guess? I try to make conversation, ask them about thier day, hobbies etc. Believe it or not, that's how most guys are, if you went and spoke with us, you wouldn't put us in these weird categories. I've also had girls pretend to like me as a prank so that's kinda made me weary of approaching as of late.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:47 PM
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So? Ugly girl still gets more than ugly guy, the "narrative" is plain to see in the data lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:48 AM
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I am none of these categories and I have still been rejected multiple times, lol, I don't buy this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:45 AM
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Rape isn't usually pinning down it's done by drugging, man or woman it wouldn't matter in that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:12 PM
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Wow that is depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:11 PM
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Yeah, racists do that. The point is you are using the same rhetoric as them about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:28 PM
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They actually run domestic shelters and mental health spaces, hardly "whining", more activism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:25 PM
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Okay he put out fires and asked if anyone needed medical help. He only shot people trying to attack him. And unless you're a pyschologist, I doubt you can tell if his reaction was real or fake. Regardless of your feelings of him, he will likely get off for self defence. It worrying most people on the left are refusing to see why the mob of people attacking are in the wrong at all for this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/21 10:56 PM
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You said even if it's not a "deal breaker", so you say it's not the deciding factor for men, it definitely not on the conscious side for us whereas women will absolutely think about it more, it's on thier dating profiles, any youtube video asking girls this, they will usually say no to dating a short guy, it's in the statistics the OP posted, this is undeniably a thing. And men telling you not to to date a short guy doesn't mean they won't date taller girls, that's just thier warped idea of what…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:30 PM
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Literally all of these happen to men so I don't see your point. Now some of these happen more to women I'd admit, but men aren't exactly in a better position here, forced to provide for a whole house, forced to go to the military risking thier life, far more likely to be killed walking alone, get higher sentences for the same crime. And it's bs to say most of them are self inflicted, :do worse in education than girls, rape against them isn't recognised by law, they get zero funding for any of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 05:23 PM
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The 1% in charge are men != men are in control. Control of what? They are forced in the army risking thier lives, so the bodily autonomy they supposedly they have isn't there. They make up the majority of the homeless, suicides, drug addicts, do worse in education than girls, rape against them isn't recognised by law, they get zero funding for any of thier issues. etc etc. Men and women in developing countries both have it shit, hardly comparable to white people complaining about racism lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:11 PM
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No this is just untrue lol, definitely not an equal amount, you even admit they don't see as a deal breaker unlike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:29 PM
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You think those countries aren't where men also have little rights or control over their bodies? No you can't compare gender to race, it's not an equivalent situation at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:27 PM
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Sounds like you're making shitty assumptions and using just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:44 AM
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I'm sorry but bodily autonomy imo is way more important the the Jewish community's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:41 AM
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Sorry what the only people I've seen care about height is women by far.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:38 AM
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Misandry also is but it's not acknowledged and will never be acknowledged as widespread so oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:34 AM
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Yeah but we can also hurt you online, that doesn't fully explain it. And no I doubt women are just terrified of interacting with men thier friends with and know 24/7. I think it's because a small neurotic, paranoid minority of women are overrepresented online and in real life women are just normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:33 AM
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Honestly women in real life are straight up way nicer people arguably nicer than men. But online, Jesus they're can be straight up mean and spiteful especially towards men. Dunno know why exactly but the difference is startling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:45 PM
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Honestly I never got this anecdotal apparent trueism. Most the couples I've seen are pretty equal in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:08 AM
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Hmm a mutual split is happened with Chris Pratt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:23 AM
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Social pressures influence people. Shock I know mate. And people definitely care, this is said by a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:42 PM
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Well damned if we do, damned if don't kinda thing, and that's mainly men shaming for the simping
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:40 PM
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Being attracted to you being smart ain't the same thing as caring about your career choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:07 AM
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I'm talking about the traditional red pill guys you were referring to, generally yeah, but the one who works longer, sterotypically the guy does less housework. And funny is not the bare minimum lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:04 AM
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Men who are as picky as women with these standards are seen as incels which I think is pretty conclusive of this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:42 AM
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Or natural...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:41 AM
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Oh wow a few niche online forums definitely carries the same influence as mainstream society as a whole. Don't try to both sides this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:40 AM
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Because men get shamed for it and told they're entitled and need to lower thier standards, often by women on this sub...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:39 AM
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Unless they're any better than 80% of men looks like the average woman needs to lower her standards for an average guy. That's what guys get told to do all the time 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:37 AM
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Lol that's not the standard, the man is expected to pay because the man is expected to ask her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:35 AM
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Funny is not the bare minimum lol, most people aren't really funny, and plenty of people aren't kind or loyal either. And no one was talking about domestic work? Seems like a non sequitur you brought up. I'm sure that's expected on the trade off of being the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:34 AM
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I mean I'd appreciate it and be happy for you but it's not going to affect my attraction to you at all. I suspect that's similar for a lot of guys. Whether you're a barista or CEO, that wouldn't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:31 AM
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Please keep him until you play us at least 😜, (Arsenal fan)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:42 PM
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Wasn't expecting an Ole reference in here of all places 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 07:14 PM
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What are you on about? It's just about men's issues. Please give any examples of them "screwing over women".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:21 AM
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No it's to show this isn't as gendered as a problem, and it's rather a human issue than a a women's one so you can't blame one gender for it. And you've admitted that you've never bothered to look at men talk about their issues on it's own by saying you only see it when you're talking about women's issues. There's plenty of subs where men talk about that on it's own if you're bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:20 AM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:16 AM
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Lol the sterotype is that women are manipulative rather than men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:15 AM
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We as a society. Noone said that, just that feminists changed the system to make it majority female teachers which has an impact on boys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 09:18 AM
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I think the ratio's 9:1 for female:male only scholarships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:13 PM
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Read "The War Against Boys" to find this out. One thing we did was make teaching full of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:11 PM
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And they get shit on for being unempathetic for it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:24 PM
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Empathy I'm guessing, when men do it they get called an whiny incel or whatever so it's not much different the other way round, possibly slightly worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:23 PM
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This can easily be disproved by watching videos of women trying tinder posing as a man: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw&t=33s They get surprised by how hard it is and how unresponsive the women are and how few matches they get. The pressure is on the man to be interesting, to carry the convo, the woman just has to be there. Not getting success on tinder isn't an indicator of value. It's a very superficial app. Hell even high value men struggle on that. It's to do with gender not value.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:44 PM
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Because men are expected to approach, doesn't necessarily mean you're better than men or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:37 PM
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Because men are expected to approach since like the dawn of time lol, doesn't mean the women are necessarily any better than men, plenty of low value women get attention solely due to thier gender and desperation from men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:34 PM
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Because women in high paying jobs tend to be single because it's nearly impossible to find a man that earns more than her to be a breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 07:42 PM
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It's funny because of the reddit hivemind my comment with links to studies can get downvoted and the person's personal anecdote or saying, oh those studies aren't perfect gets upvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:03 AM
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The housewife things happens after marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:43 PM
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Nah season 2 and 3 are good, Steve is pretty as pretty good as well as Bob
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/21 02:26 PM
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Did I say confidence doesn't matter? Don't put words on my mouth. And the second paragraph just ain't true. You need more than just that to be successful with women. And even confident men struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:44 AM
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You completely missed the guys point and made loads of assumptions: his point was even men who like themselves and thier needs are fufilled struggle with dating and face repeated rejections, believe or not a woman doesn't know your whole life story by looking at you, so she won't reject you based on that just more based on attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:15 AM
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We are less likely to engage again with men if there was a bad experience. I’ve met a lot of women who don’t want to date again because of all the bs they encounter. This describes MGTOW mentality funnily enough
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:11 AM
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There's a difference between choosing to have some alone time and unwillingly pushing into being alone all the time. As someone who's experienced the latter I can confidently say it's utterly miserable. For most people being alone is bad yeah. Humans are social creatures and we crave connection. I don't think most people would be happy if they were told they would never find a partner for the rest of thier lives. Friends, dogs, cats they come and go. And the crazy cat lady is probably miserable.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:26 PM
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Mf we aren't the avengers 😂, I don't understand why people talk about men like we're just some hivemind that can control each other's actions. It's not like women can control each other either. The prisoner's dilemma means it won't work, and this is an evolutionary trait that has existed for all of humanity, it'll take a massive effort to change this gender norm, and probably not even fully. Women only competed for the top guys attraction because they are pickier. If guys are as picky they'll di…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:46 PM
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Lol like men get shit on for not lowering thier standards if they complain about struggling in dating and then gets shit on when they actually do. Either way, men are in the wrong apparently and women have no agency in this. And MGTOW is not common among men lmao, like saying most women are FDS. You're vastly overestimating niche internet subcultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:45 PM
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Sorry but a looks threshold is required to even get your foot in the door in the first place. This is true for both men and women. If you never get a chance to show yourself, you'll still be behind the "trash" but more attractive men women complain about dating because at least they get picked initially
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:42 PM
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But it doesn't mean that women have this opportunity in all cases Men don't have the opportunity in any case. I don't understand why you're talking about expectations to try and invalidate the rule. And why are you talking about the initial decision when I'm taking about the final one? Women can change thier mind, men can't. It's fundamentally unequal and you'd be lying if you argued against that. Even in the initial decision, if it's an unwanted one the choice is 100% the woman's.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:36 PM
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So the final decision is solely made by the woman? Yeah you've proved him right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:07 PM
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Yep, actually during pregnancy, hemorrhage and cardiovascular conditions are the leading causes of death
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:05 PM
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Well you'd have to look at the percentage of men that cheat, compared to the percentage of men who are supportive to get a more accurate picture of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:04 PM
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You don't know teenage boys very well do you? It's a clear minority of them who are this loud, badmouthed and being an asshole to everyone. That's absolutely what a bad boy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:24 AM
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This is a good article related to it: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ And this has been discussed on the sub before: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion\_research\_finds\_that\_women\_do\_not/?utm\_source=amp&utm\_medium=&utm\_content=post\_body
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:21 AM
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Sorry isn't that exactly what TRP says anyways, and good luck trying to convey women can be shallow in the current climate lol, that's going to get you branded as an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:19 AM
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Nope, I've seen plenty of women online get validation by them complaining about how horrible men are based on thier choices in partners
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:16 AM
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Cambridge dictionary: "ideas about the way that men should behave that are seen as harmful, for example the idea that men should not cry or admit weakness:" https://www.google.com/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/toxic-masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:01 PM
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It's really funny how much this misses the mark. The real reason is because they're told to man up whenever they got hurt and have repressed thier emotions to suit society's standards. The fact thier health issues are joked about as "man flu" encourages them to not talk about it and not take it seriously. I don't even know how you've come to the conclusion they think it's too feminine, sounds like someone who's never interacted with men and thier only references are outdated sterotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:59 PM
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Mate I obviously don't think it misandry to say there are bad men out there. My point is treating men as this hivemind that is somehow able to stop other men from doing stuff is silly. It's not like we expect women to do that so why men? It's silly and hasn't helped anyone. Citation needed for the religious group being easily distinguishable in thier members, it's really not, that's why so many terrorist attacks are unexpected. And this logic still applies to any human demographic, any human can…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:50 PM
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It point isn't the frequency, obviously women experience it more, the point is not to generalise demographics based on the worst members, all you're doing is taking the heat of the actual perpetrators by making them indistinguishable from other members in your "criticism". And my anecdote was to counter your statement that it doesn't have a lasting effect if a woman does it which it absolutely does. It wouldn't have made a difference if a guy did it, it's the act itself that's traumatizing, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:20 PM
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Yeah they can be friends, by that logic, no married people are friends with the opposite gender, which is obviously not the reality. I think it's natural at some point if one side develops feeling for the other, but that doesn't mean friendships can't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:39 PM
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You're extrapolating your personal experience onto every guy. For the record I was the victim of revenge porn by a woman and yeah I was pretty traumatized by it. There are plenty of guys like me out there: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/16/half-men-unwanted-sexual-experiences-uk-study-mankind Of course it's not in your experience if you've never experienced it. It's very underreported. "We don’t need to be equal in our criticism of both genders: there aren’t tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:36 PM
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I hope you have this view of other demographics, women need to find out and stop the minority of bad women etc. It's not cool to make a whole demographic be solely responsible for a minority of bad members. It should be enough to not tolerate them but noone is responsible for the actions of bad people in thier demographic. Men aren't a monolith or a hivemind, they can't control what other men do same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:40 AM
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And the "women are wonderful" effect: "This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger[5] than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic preference for their own gender.[5]" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:43 AM
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The average is a guy not killing anyone lmao, your judging by the minority of men be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:39 AM
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Look he doesn't owe you anything, if he doesn't wanna be friends with you, he can leave. I think he realized seeing you around would just hurt him so he did what he thought was the best solution. Friends drift away all the time. It sucks for both of you but you have to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:20 AM
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How is this related to men's rights?
/r/MensRights20/10/21 05:23 AM
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It's funny because by the definition of oppresion men were oppressed too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:27 PM
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Or as an accessory
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 08:35 PM
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Most men who struggle with dating aren't self proclaimed incels, this is like thinking every woman struggling with dating is a FDS golddigger..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:10 AM
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It's a caricature because it doesn't represent the average guy struggling with dating at all, they aren't like that and still face the same struggles. Gaslighting them by saying doing what they already will get them a partner is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:55 PM
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People who give this advice don't realise dating is heavily based on circumstances and luck, because they don't understand themselves how they got successfull or that it won't work for others just because it works for them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:20 PM
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Tired caricature that doesn't describe the average guy's dating experience. Literally just did the "just shower bro" meme lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:13 PM
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I guess all parents are stupid then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:04 PM
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Eh, that's fine if they talk about about unique struggles that single mothers face. It's the fact that they won't focus on father's or men too that's concerning
/r/MensRights12/10/21 02:48 PM
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I mean you can argue the same thing about white people but at the end of the day it's a privilege. Women are preferred as people and men are the opposite of that. I'd rather take being seen as positively associated with good traits and a bias towards me than be seen negatively and associated with negative traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:35 PM
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Because male traditional roles are less nurturing. That's more to men being stronger than women rather than men being more violent. It's pretty well established domestic violence has gender symmetry: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:21 AM
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I didn't say anything wrong? There are plenty of female positive traits established by science, a gender bias isn't one of them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:03 AM
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I think people should read the wiki about the "women are wonderful" effect before talking about it. It doesn't seem many have. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect No it's not driven mainly due to male hormones, it's far more pronounced in women than men: "This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger[5] than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:58 AM
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Well it's far more pronounced in women than men: "This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger[5] than those of men. And only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic preference for their own gender.[5]" So unless you think women really wanna fuck other women, it's clear the effect is not due to that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:47 AM
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Interestingly enough it's the opposite: "One study found that the effect is mediated by increased gender equality. The mediation comes not from differences in attitudes towards women, but in attitudes towards men. In more egalitarian societies, people have more positive attitudes towards men than in less egalitarian societies.[6]" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:39 AM
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Well one is a bias with unfounded hypothesises for why the effect exists and the other is been well established by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:37 AM
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Well it's the opposite:. "Another experiment in the study found adults' attitudes were measured based on their reactions to categories associated with sexual relations. It revealed that among men who engaged more in sexual activity, the more positive their attitude towards sex, the larger their bias towards women. A greater interest in and liking of sex may promote automatic preference for the out-group of women among men, although both women and men with sexual experience expressed greater liki…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:36 AM
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It's actually the opposite: "Another experiment in the study found adults' attitudes were measured based on their reactions to categories associated with sexual relations. It revealed that among men who engaged more in sexual activity, the more positive their attitude towards sex, the larger their bias towards women. A greater interest in and liking of sex may promote automatic preference for the out-group of women among men, although both women and men with sexual experience expressed greater l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:34 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect "The term was coined by researchers Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic in a 1994 paper" It was coined by the man and the woman who did the study. And yeah, they hypothesised that it's because they associated women with nurturing. "However, other authors have cited studies indicating that the women-are-wonderful effect is still applicable even when women are in nontraditional gender roles, and the original Eagly, Mladinic & Otto (1991) stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:29 AM
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Goalposts have been shifted to feminism not saying all men are bad to oh well it's been done it reverse so it's okay. But why are you automatically comparing it to something else? It's devaluing both forms of discrimination by doing that. And this rhetoric has been done for decades. Also you perspective only makes since if you ignore all of men's suffering throughout history, men were shamed by the Suffragettes to join the war, forced to go to war at any notice, worked in horrific heavy manual l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 11:21 PM
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So just moving the goalposts with a whataboutism? Yeah men aren't a monolith and men today aren't the same as men a few generations ago, so it's really weird to generalise a population as bad. Is this really feminism, a reverse attempt of patriarchy? Certainty doesn't seem to have any moral high ground. And it's also not okay to generalise white people as racists, I'm saying this as a non white person. It's just as hurtful on an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:52 PM
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It's kinda funny how oblivious some women are to men's lives that they can think it's easy. There was a woman who made a documentary about what it was like live as a man. She was convinced it would be easy because she she was taught it would be full of male privilege, after a year she was put in a mental ward. The cold treatment she got from both men and women was eye opening to her. https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3h1ah4/feminist_lives_as_a_man_for_18_months_to_try_to/?utm_source=amp&u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:31 PM
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No feminism has generalised men as a whole as being like this for a minority of men, but would call it misogyny when it was done in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:18 PM
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Most unwanted stranger attack victims are men, most victims of muggings are men, most violent crime victims are men. Even when innocent bystanders men are more likely to be harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:16 PM
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That's irrelevant, the conversation is the risk of assault, not who perpetrates it. It's not much of a comfort if the perpetrator is a woman. So no matter how you try to deflect, men are far less safe in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:01 PM
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Majority of victims attacked at night are men, you would feel even less unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:51 PM
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Well a woman tried to live as a man for a year and she got sent to the mental ward soooo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:49 PM
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Men are struggling to get dates, let alone relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:48 PM
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Because it's unhealthy and incredibly sad to physically alter your body just for chances of dates. Humans should be attracted to humans, you shouldn't have to do surgery on it unless for medical reasons, to be appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:47 PM
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As compared to who? Who's asking the other party out? Who's making the first the first move? Who's choosing planning and paying for dates? Who's leading the conversation? Most of the time, the answer is men. And women do cosmetics for themselves, not to please men. Men would date with or without them. Guys aren't putting as much effort if they're not not getting any results, that's the logical thing to do. Focusing on yourself is a far smarter solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 12:38 PM
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Oh do they, than those women are being awfully presumptuous imo. This a struggle for a vast majority of men at some point, giving them general advice assuming they're all bottom tier and going for supermodels isn't really helpful and seems like a strawman. It's like giving women dating advice assuming they're all golddiggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:20 AM
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This is shown by them protesting men's groups and events.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:13 AM
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"men having better boundaries and standards for a partner." Kinda funny because one of the most common "advice" thrown at men is lower your standards, regardless of it it makes sense or not in the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:11 AM
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Or they just go for who they find attractive and who approaches them, which explains why attractive violent men get multiple partners and nice passive guys get none
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:21 PM
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You're describing problems in relationships while the problem is sexlessness, a lot of men nowadays don't even get the chance to show if they're good or not. Considering the number of women who complain about dating trash men, it's clear that it's mainly attractiveness that relates to sex rather than morality. Looks get you in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:54 PM
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That's a reach an a half, plently of guys who try to impress women with stuff like guitar playing get laid. It works if she's initially attracted to you to the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:49 PM
2

He is, and bi chicks, doesn't mean he can't complain about his job experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:42 AM
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I'm saying a few exceptions don't apply to the general population, short men are still disadvantaged, studies show they even earn less. Most short men are not Al Pacino lol, it's very unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:06 PM
3

"Obama was black and the president so obviously there's no problems anymore with black people"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:32 AM
1

"He does the semen with me" Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:49 AM
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https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADL9ODDEs6Jef_lo1HkWZRoQzR9ZDvbLZKeDvPXMG5qstYrMCJY8RmDNtRPLEtvuh_8XL3Z7VRrrFrvF3X-jX4_n0wCio7RcWhyWCiIdnXlKPN9Q2tNOey0KG7r1WqTJ8akggFdHkC2u0yN34YrVn3IFKkQ9i5vzgZbUuDYl6mNn Relevant part:“As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:46 AM
1

Trust me guy would value women that put in more effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:16 PM
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The problem is the gender disparity of effort required for sex/dating. Men are expected the make the first move, initate and plan the date, pay the bill etc, women don't have to do that to be considered "high value".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:54 PM
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Cody Ko's audience kinda sucks when it comes to this sorta stuff, they are really biased towards women. Kurtis Conner even more but that's understandable considering the content he makes appeals to a female audience. He also did that " are men trash?" video and his answer was yes, so yeah that sucked and was pretty r/whiteknight
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/21 05:13 PM
2

Man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:55 PM
8

And they're right, Visuals is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:57 PM
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It's not a bad deed to not say any intentions and don't have a relationship. That's perfectly fine, no one's owed anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:10 PM
1

Didn't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:03 PM
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They do, look at the tiers, they offers personal messages, and even meet ups, it's very parasocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:02 PM
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If he doesn't say any intentions, then if the woman assumes otherwise, that's on her for assuming, there are simps that assume that only fans girls want to get with someone with thier messaging services. And a lot of twitch e girls/only fans fans will hide the fact that they have a partner to keep the image that they are available, because they lose simps and money when it's leaked. So there's deception there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:44 PM
2

The YouTube comments are terrible
/r/PussyPassDenied04/10/21 07:44 AM
8

Women are mindreaders, no this isn't just an old wives tale, that's why they never complain about the men they date
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:39 PM
5

Imagine missing the point this hard, the point is the expectation to be entertaining falls solely on men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:40 PM
5

On that note, you heard of the song Dance Monkey? It has the worst vocals ever, so grating and annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:38 PM
5

Overpopulation's such a myth, birth rates are declining and there's worry on how future generations will be able to sustain the current ones, look a t Japan for example. Not giving resources is part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:52 PM
5

And if everyone was them, society would collapse due to zero birth rate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:54 PM
2

And yet hot asshole get success over the genuinely nice guy. Attraction != Morality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:50 PM
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You need to read this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:49 PM
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In a world where there are no men, women would not be in danger. Erh, heard of the Y The last Man? It shows what happens when all the men in the world disappear bar one, and it's chaos. It's noted how much of manual labourers and engineers are men which is why they struggle to get power and electricity. Not to mention men are the majority of rescue workers and firefighters, so they help people from natural disasters and accidents.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:36 AM
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KPop is a pretty niche interest in the US, most fans of it are teenage girls lol, and the majority of east Asians are not gonna look like K Pop Stars lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:27 AM
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Literally blaming children at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:22 AM
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Why are men the only demographic where people talk like this to? For women and minorities, we acknowledge societal factors that hurt them, for men it's all thier fault and they need to "fix" themselves to be deemed worthy of acceptance. What an awful belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:22 AM
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I don't think men dropping out of society and becoming hermits is only seen as a crisis by men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:57 AM
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Same reason why people are blaming men for everything, easier to do. Leftists and feminists are not interested in this problem, and they'll just do what you just did and treat men's issues as individual failings, how is that helpful for men? Also feminism has a history of inacting misandrist actions and policies like the Duluth Model, making and protesting to keep gendered rape laws, protesting men's groups and events etc. My experiences with feminism has been pretty negative, told I should be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:40 AM
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I concur as a man of colour too. It's depressing honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:10 AM
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His point is if it's happening on this scale, it's no longer an ndividual failing, but a societal one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:08 AM
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The article itself is tagged as "lifestyle"
/r/MensRights29/09/21 12:22 PM
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I feel like "husband material" is just code for "safe option". I've never anyone date someone they call "husband material".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 11:06 PM
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If they don't want a husband and are able to care take of a kid sure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 11:01 PM
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You're still ignoring it, look you keep talking about one specific scenerio as a universal. You make some good points but you know unwanted can mean first time interactions as well, come on. And the article is good, but I can see you're so focused on your lemd anything you don't like is incel to you. Ah well goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:01 AM
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Okay, if you're purely talking about grand gestures, cool, but you keep conflating it with all gestures, stuff like compliments, a letter, etc. That makes it really confusing. I'll repeat this part my comment to you, because you've ignored it. "The reason the abuser usually prevails is because of their history with the victim, not their gestures alone." How would the abuser start abusing someone with no history? They would need to start at some point to have a history. "If you can’t see how an u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:19 PM
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I think abusers can just treat thier dates nice like everyone else and change only once they're in the relationship. Realistically I don't think "love bombing" is going to work on women at all unless they're already attracted to you, and if this is more successful for abusers than nice guys, then, we're back to square one with the OP question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:31 PM
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Okay, if you're purely talking about grand gestures, cool, but you keep conflating it with all gestures, stuff like compliments, a letter, etc. That makes it really confusing. Most people aren't jaded as you and think every man who does it is a manipulator and will appreciate that, even if they aren't interested. You have a strange criteria for genuine. How is showing up uninvited not genuine? People do that all the time. "It’s not so much that their behavior is preferable to the nice guys, it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:26 PM
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"Nice guys have lives and boundaries and some different priorities and more shit that gets in the way of perfect behavior" Yeah I don't buy this explanation, abusers have lives too, that doesn't stop people from treating thier dates nice. Anyone can make time for dates and texting and stuff. Look at the guy from You, he's an abuser, but he's also has a life, he owns and runs a bookshop, he's interests are in books. Apart from his abuse, he has a perfectly normal life. That's the thing about abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:58 PM
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You seem to think men are incapable of doing nice things for girls unless they have a devious motive. What a pathetic and depressing view on men. By your logic, anyone anyone does on dates or to in romance in general to impress anyone of the opposite sex is a pathetic loser. Girl who dresses herself up extra nice to make the boy she's crushing on notice her, pathetic loser. Guy who writes a sweet poem to give to the girl he likes on Valentine's day, pathetic loser. Do you just want everyone to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:25 PM
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Because the nice guy that does it because he actually means it doesn't excist. Why not? You don't think nice guys like that don't exist? Jesus Christ that is a depressing view of men. I've been described as nice by my peers before. Do I not exist according to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:43 PM
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I think this is a personal issue for you, rather than an actual thing, the fact that you had to twist what you said initially, "everything they want to hear in a grand fashion", "Having someone pour their heart and soul into “winning” you back", to "wild public declarations of love" to make the guy look bad is revealing. Also the fact that you think that makes someone a victim. Nah actually a lot of women want what you said initially, which is why these men are successful. That doesn't make thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:41 PM
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What if the nice guy is doing that because he actually means it? See this is my issue with nice guy debates. No one draws the line between nice guys who mean it and nice guys who fake it, if what they say is the same things with different intentions. And my point was if someone is attracted to you, the bounds of behaviour is far wider because they'll rationalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 12:58 PM
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"They’re telling them everything they want to hear in a grand fashion." "Having someone pour their heart and soul into “winning” you back" This is exactly what nice guys do as well. The only reason why they aren't successful and bad guys are is because one is more attractive than the other. There's generally no wrong line if a woman is attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:35 AM
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I doubt men actively chose to go to abusive partners like women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 08:08 AM
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Oh look the "not all women" defence to dismiss men's experiences 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 08:05 AM
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Sigh the "not all women" defense. Don't get me wrong you're not entirely wrong but I wish men could make this defence too without being crucified for it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:56 AM
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Nah they're gaslighting by saying it's the OP's fault, he's putting her on a pedestal, all these bullshit assumptions to undermine him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:37 AM
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How is the girl bad in this situation? You just wanted to shit on OP by making up scenerios and assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:35 AM
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Lol you got bodied on that thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/j213h3/comment/g72j4jd/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:33 AM
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Isn't it like proven women like men a bit older than them? As long it's not predatory I don't see the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:00 AM
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Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:56 AM
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This is what nice guys were talking about, and they got ridiculed for it...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:48 PM
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Reminds me this gem of a post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body Bascially traditionally masculine men are more attractive to women, even if they are abusive, they share masculine traits and dark triad over introverted men who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:29 PM
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r/femaledatingstrategy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 10:49 PM
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Oh definitely his parents neglected him, and didn't get him the help he needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/21 10:48 PM
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Wow, both you and the OP are lunatics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:22 PM
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So am I my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:58 PM
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We had a whole thread on women downplaying thier dating advantage lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:56 PM
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Okay maybe I was a bit reductive there, but generally I think it's true. Most women in the dating market still prefer traditionally masculine men, which involves extroversion, making the first move, planning the date, initiating the conversation etc. Most male dating advice is to be more extroverted, be more confident, start up conversations, put yourself out there in social situations. Overall a male extrovert will fare better than an introvert purely because of the expectation of men to be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:00 PM
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Women's shelters aren't self sustaining btw, they rely on government funding. It's just the government couldn't care less about giving funding to men's shelters and feminist group have opposed it because they feel like it'll take away funding for women's shelters
/r/MensRights20/09/21 04:16 PM
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Introversion is completely at odds with the male gender role in dating so they'll be at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:07 PM
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Imagine being in a relationship with someone not attracted to you and not comfortable having sex with you? When men do this, they get crucified for not being honest to thier partner about this, But when women do it, men are expected to be grateful for it somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:20 AM
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It's also really taboo to point this out, it's perfectly acceptable to say men are shallow and critique them but any implication of this applying to women will get you branded as an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:11 AM
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Reddit never reads the article, they just saw the word "college" in the title and ran with it. Men are invisible when it comes to gender issues so they didn't even think to address why it was just men dropping out if college is so shitty even when "young men" is literally in the title
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 08:50 AM
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Like the Duluth model is based on feminist theory of assuming all domestic violence is based on patriarchal oppression. This isn't a bug, it's a feature. There is a huge blind spot in feminism has for men and it's really damaging. And the mods of menslib knew who that guy was and still allowed the AMA showing thier true colours. Menslib has got nothing to do with liberation, it is feminist first, men second if at all. They can't ever improve things for men if they are constrained by a feminist l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/21 08:47 PM
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Yes women find money sexy. I think I woman would be more aroused knowing they're sleeping with a millionaire than a normal guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:15 PM
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The first study I linked showed money can make up for physical attractiveness in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 04:43 PM
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You don't need to be, but it is preferable for maximum attraction. I'm sure some women find Bill Gates attractive because of his wealth and status, but an ideal female fantasy in Fifty Shades of Grey is money, status and looks for attractiveness. The first study I link shows money can make up for physical attractiveness in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:55 PM
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Well it isn't the only factor of attractiveness, there are others of course, but it seems to be a significant one. Here's the relevant part of the abstract: "Here, we combined images of male and female body shape with information on annual salary to elucidate the influence of economic status on the attractiveness ratings by opposite sex raters in American, Chinese and European populations. We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:54 PM
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Females are four times more sensitive than males to economic status cues when rating opposite sex attractiveness, indicating that higher economic status can offset lower physical attractiveness in men much more easily than in women. Marriage decline blamed on lack of 'economically attractive' men Also look at media like Fifty Shades of Grey, part of the sexual appeal to women is that he's a billionaire. Only reason they aren't into Bill Gates as much is because he's old and not conventionally ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:38 PM
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I gonna be honest, I've noticed your comments and they're always really thoughtful and nice to read. It's refreshing to see especially in a sub like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:45 AM
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Water is wet because when something is wet, it has water on it and on a molecular level, water molecules are bonded on top of each other, therefore water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:12 AM
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Aw thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:09 AM
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The problem with Menslib is that at least from my perspective, like you don't even look at men's issues? I saw the thread on men giving up on college and almost none of the comments focused on why this was only happening to men. Everyone was looking at why college sucked anyways. And the mods fit this narrative to a t, which is why they delete any nuanced comments and why they post "masculinity bad" posts all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:54 AM
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It's interesting and sad that what I've said has been mostly proven right in this thread. The whatboutism and lack of acknowledgment and empathy is damning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:41 AM
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That's also an issue as shown with the women are wonderful effect but they care a bit more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:37 AM
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Lmao I can't believe you're defending racists towards black people lol. You know it's not about not liking every single black person, it's about hating them as a group. You really stooping this low to try and defend her? By your strange definition of hate, why were you bothering to complain about what black girls and south asian girls recieve? As long it's not advocating for harm, fair game no? And you've ignored the misandrist comment she's said for a second time. She has a pretty vile view of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:25 AM
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Its pretty sad that's your first thought after reading that. Never did I suggest that, all I did was show the complete lack of empathy and understanding women (and some men too) have towards men's issues. I don't think empathy for half the human population is a hard task tbh. I think men's issue should be solved by society, men and women. I think the reasons women's problems are easier to solve is a) a lot of the work has been done in the last century to solve them, b) there is a large infrastru…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:03 AM
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Yeah she likes individual men if they're "one of the good ones" lmao. The same logic racist have against individual black people. Doesn't mean they don't hate black people as a whole. Apathetic means showing no interest yet she constantly shows interest disparaging men. I showed you an example, and you've ignored it because you know you can't defend her there. It's very misandrist what she said there. And she doesn't have to be literally advocating hurting men to hate them. Does hatred only coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:56 PM
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I'm talking about the commenter Take the pink pill. I dunno about the YouTuber. Look at her comment history, it's full of contempt towards men. https://www.reddit.com/user/TakeThePinkPill/ I'll pick out a personal favourite: "No because I don't take men who cry misandry seriously. If anything, it has begun making me feel as though they feel impotent and are hoping SJW tactics will help them but it only validates the fact that they are weak." Yeah man soo apathetic.. No hangs ups or dislike of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:33 PM
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Ironically feminism is quite compatible with patriarchy when it comes to the treatment of men. They both agree men don't need any help and any issues they have to figure out on thier own, even though it's a societal issue. That's why they worked so well together with police on the Duluth model to arrest the guy on every domestic violence call, that's why they worked so well together with the FBI and Congress to make gendered rape laws to exclude male victims (thanks Mary Koss).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:23 PM
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It's the pinkpill man, they're notorious for hating men. And it was obvious looking at the way she was talking about men in this one sided negative way. And she should have the awareness to see it goes both ways so it's not a reason to care about men of her own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:20 PM
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I didn't, but if the commenter is south asian, it would be incredibly hypocritical to hate south asian men for this when her demographic has engaged in just as much hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:07 PM
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I'm just saying it's not one sided. It's not like one side is solely to blame
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:28 PM
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That's interesting because as an Indian guy, I've had the opposite experience, I've had South Asian girls tell me I should be locked in a cage and I'm a disgusting breed when I said I was an Indian guy on twitter. And also there was this infamous AITA thread being racist to Indian men and many Indian women joined in on that: https://www.removeddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/h0sxv5/aita_for_telling_some_indian_friends_that_they/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_num_comments
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:22 PM
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If women's intuition was really as good as it's made out to be, they wouldn't have so many horrible dating partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:23 PM
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Just world fallacy, yet those same women complain constantly about having trash men as date partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:16 PM
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Yeah I've seen that, great video, and love her research. This shows why male domestic violence victims, homeless men, male victims of rape, suicidal men etc recieve barely any support or acknowledged, the funding for them is fraction of funding women recieve in those areas. And yeah, the "men's issues are all thier own fault" narrative is rife on twitter, in feminism spaces, including r/MensLib. It's so damaging and shows the complete lack of empathy for men that they think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:10 PM
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Contrapoints is a trans woman and she's dated as man and as a woman. She's admitted she prefers the dating experience of a woman because she gets more attention that way. This woman tried tinder as a man and was convinced she would be successful because she knew what women wanted to hear. She was completely frustrated after a few days with the lack of matches and one phrase responses: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw&t=1s There was a woman convinced living as a man would be easy, y'know…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:47 PM
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And that infamous AITA thread about Indian men. The comments were just full on racist. As for the cause Pierre XO made a good video on it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8_RMuTgjfY&t=125s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/21 12:56 PM
5

The Ana Akana excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:19 AM
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He's explaining her worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 11:05 AM
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Do you have a source for that? I'd like to see this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/21 11:01 AM
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Now this has been an ongoing issue with boys and men in education failing for decades. But the discourse around this has been generally disappointing. A lot of people seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room, focusing to talk about college is a waste now anyways, women are just better students than men, (I've seen is on the r/Professors sub), etc, and completely ignoring the possibility of discrimination
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/21 10:56 AM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/talking-about-trauma/201902/when-male-rape-victims-are-accountable-child-support%3famp It's so easy to Google to find this stuff out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 10:18 PM
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Child support? Even minors and men who have been raped (sometimes both!) are forced to pay child support to thier rapists in the US, for 18 years. How much more responsibility do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:30 PM
1

I was trying to be funny as well as accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:51 PM
4

I've seen women who compliment men or point out a issue men suffer from get called a pick me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:26 AM
5

Unless you're in a male prison
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:06 AM
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It was deleted so you know it goes against thier narrative, don't worry man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:43 PM
1

Maybe the baseline for how men's emotions should be regulated should not be solely decided on by women. And vice versa. That sounds like an unhealthy balancing act.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:02 PM
2

"'Boys don't cry': Study suggests mothers, not fathers, show gender bias towards sons"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:00 PM
1

Not relevant to the conversation in the video but okay
/r/PussyPassDenied03/09/21 03:33 PM
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There was a great comment on menslib about opening up, deleted unfortunately: I haven't thought about that all that much but it made me think about a trend I noticed recently, where men are told to be more vulnerable, are told they should talk more, are told they need to share their emotions more, and basically that all the things that are wrong with men would go away if only men were more like women. That really pisses me off to hear, because it's incredibly selfish and shows a huge lack of sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:30 PM
2

Yet is usually seen as weak
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:29 PM
4

Ah, an old classic
/r/PussyPassDenied02/09/21 03:27 PM
5

It's always said to people who can't get a relationship in the first place telling men if they love themselves that'll help thier chances which is bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:58 AM
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That's meaningless advice to people who can't get a date, let alone a relationship, which is who this advice is usually targeted towards. You're telling them how to do step 3, when they can't even do step 1. This is why a lot of dating advice sucks because it's actually just relationship advice from people who don't struggle getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:54 AM
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Yeah I think it's just a meaningless platitude people tell to others struggling to find a relationship to make themselves feel better
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:47 AM
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And yet they are way more successful in finding relationships than young men, proving this whole "love yourself" will increase your chances of a relationship to be bs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:46 AM
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In India feminist groups fought against proposals to make the rape law gender neutral.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 08:05 AM
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Yeah that advice is always bs, plently of insecure people who don't love themselves can find relationships and plenty of people who love themselves can't find relationships. People are picked on other factors then if someone "loves themselves".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:01 AM
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What are you talking about? Shaming happens to ordinary people all the time. It happens in campuses, in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:33 AM
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Tbf everyone was oppressed for hundreds of years, women and men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/21 09:39 PM
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Nope if it wasn't for MRAs it wouldn't be brought to light. In fact the original MRAs were feminists like Warren Farrell who were kicked out and ostracized from the movement for wanting to address men's issue. Feminism does everything to suppress the knowledge that there are men's issues as shown by the guy who commented above. It has done the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:47 PM
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Duluth Model, gendered rape laws, shut down and protest men's groups and talks None of the things I've described can be justified under freedoms for women. I'm pretty sure most women didn't ask for hurting men, and that does nothing to further women's liberation, it makes it worse in fact. These things were done under the assumption women are weaker. Freedom shouldn't mean freedom from consequences. That's what equality should mean imo. If feminism is to be taken seriously, they should push back…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:37 PM
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No True Scotsman, plenty of famous feminists were and are misandrists. Feminist means something different to everyone, in thier eyes, what they believe is true feminism and misandry is part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:53 PM
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Aren't men allowed to comment to replies? Maybe I've misunderstood the sub's format. And no I don't think all feminists are bad. But it would be nice to see some pushback against the bad ones, and there just isn't in my experience. They've done stuff like the Duluth Model, gendered rape laws, shut down and protest men's groups and talks, manipulate statistics. And I've not seen any pushback to these actions. Maybe I'll meet good feminists in real life one day idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:47 PM
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Modern feminism has very different talking points since those goals were achieved decades ago. To me it means using intentionally divisive and misandrist rhetoric to make the sexes hate each other and trying to keep the men oppressor women oppressed narrative despite all the evidence together not backing that up in modern times. It feels very outdated. I have had pretty painful experiences with online feminists and I don't trust them at all to tackle men's issues (not like they care to do so any…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:06 PM
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Feminist advocacy in real life (Duluth model, gendered rape laws, shutting down and protesting men's groups and events, manipulating statistics and ignoring evidence) is very different to the dictionary definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:01 PM
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It's a fact rooted in science. Facts cannot be sexist, they just describe information that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:59 PM
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Do you understand what modern feminism means? Seems like you're dodging the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:58 PM
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This actually makes me furious, fuck the rape law in India excluding men and fuck the feminists and other activists there that protested against gender neutral rape laws
/r/PussyPass28/08/21 05:41 PM
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I think if you're worried that a sex bot will be more appealing than you, then you don't really value yourself as a potential partner Human connection will always be preferable to a robot, and these robots can only do sex right? It's not too dissimilar to prostitution in that regard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 07:19 PM
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Exactly, this why the chance of divorce massively increases when there is a recession or the man loses his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:20 PM
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It's more special for a man to be desired than it is for a woman. Because it happens often for women and usually unwanted, whereas many men rarely recieve it in dating, due to the pursuer role they have to take, so when they do, they treasure it more. At least that's my take idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 12:51 PM
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r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates is a much better sub in addressing men's issues in my experience
/r/PussyPassDenied27/08/21 12:20 PM
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Wow he was so bad even Menslib called him out lol. He bombed hard. This isn't the first time I've seen these type of AMAs go wrong either: https://np.reddit.com/r/science/comments/3rmapx/science_ama_series_im_laura_salazar_associate/ You have to wonder what attracts this type of people to Menslib 🤔
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/21 12:33 AM
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It's supposed to be for housewives who have been out of the workforce for years to take care of the kids.
/r/MensRights26/08/21 01:07 PM
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Wow what a horrible and completely dishonest argument. Men choose more violent methods because they have a higher suicidal intent. A dead body would be traumatising to anyone that finds it, I can't believe they have to nerve to imply men who commit suicide are selfish.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/08/21 05:03 PM
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So it's not really a benefit then. And yet still thinks men as a group are oppressors and privileged, despite the evidence showing that applied to like the top 1% of men, ignoring that the bottom of society was majority men. It also has failed to acknowledge how men are the ones disadvantaged in modern western countries. https://quillette.com/2021/08/06/the-world-economic-forum-and-the-misleading-politics-of-gender-equality/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 11:36 AM
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That's how feminist literature describes the patriarchy, made to benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:42 AM
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Men's groups has been good at championing men's rights though, which helps men as a whole, including minority men and LGBT men. Feminism doesn't help in this regard. And LGBT and civil rights groups give the majority of the support for them, not really feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:40 AM
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patriarchy means a society made for the benefit of men so that makes no sense that it hurts men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:33 AM
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That's actually a great point, why is the blame never given to the men in power, or the bad men, but men as a group? It takes heat of the the bad men as every man is lumped in as the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:31 AM
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Pop music is dominated by women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:33 PM
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They were literally asked to describe things the woman could do for them to feel desired by the study lol, this isn't the own you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:50 PM
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From my perspective that sounds insane that someone could believe that. Like damn, you never saw a man laugh, be nervous, sad, smile, tired, jealous, confused, or get angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:42 PM
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There's a brilliant askmen threadon on why romance as a genre isn't appealing to the guy. https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/3z8o75/why_dont_men_get_as_much_of_a_thrill_over/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/21 08:33 PM
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Ah the ol' PUA tactic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:08 PM
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"But to find a partner who's compatible with you and your lifestyle" That's what someone for everyone means, not just any rando, a life partner, "the one", a lot of people don't find that. "millions of women in Asia and middle east looking for an out from their shitty countries" Any why are those countries shitty? Maybe to do with the rampant poverty there? So money and location? Yeah, still nothing to do with you. It's done out of desperation, not compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:23 AM
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What a dumb argument, no one can meets anywhere near that amount of women, let alone try to date them. And men outnumber women so even if every woman matched with a guy, some guys will miss out. Look at China and India to see the gender imbalance screwing over the guys dating prospects. And mail order brides aren't there for you, they're there for your money. OPs point stands. Look at Louis CK's bit on this to understand. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1epZXnss_I I mean I'm pretty sure a signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:34 AM
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Yeah you can choose lol, it's not forced, it's like a dating agency, where both families meet to see if they are compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:24 AM
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It's projection. Women think 80% of men are unattractive initially so any woman he goes for is seen as "too hot" for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:58 PM
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Louis CK said it best
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:51 AM
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Looks like she looks at men as just meat shields
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:05 PM
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The women were running off too lol, and most of those men were single. Alpha male doesn't mean trying to protect random women at all times lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 10:43 AM
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The military is barely functioning, and thier biggest ally ran away. The 'job' you're asking them to do is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 07:04 AM
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The bar for the men they find attractive is low, not men in general. There are plenty of men that meet that bar that are invisible to women who say that because they aren't seen as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 11:21 PM
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This was what people used to mock War Paint, a makeup brand brand for men. The founder made it because he used makeup to hide his acne and felt anxious going to the women's section to buy it. He made it to empower boys and men to wear it and he just got mocked for it. Watch his dragon's den pitch, it was very good.
/r/MensRights14/08/21 05:12 PM
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"Pick me" is supposed to mean someone, usually a girl, who says things only for male approval and begs for thier acceptance, often putting down other girls in the process. Now there are women who fit that definition, but it is also used as a shaming tactic by some feminists whenever a woman talks about men's issues. In that case, as long as you've said nothing wrong, you don't have anything to worry about. You can even turn the tables and they they're misogynistic for implying the only reason a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 04:50 PM
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The discourse of the Megalia symbol in Korea proves how many people think it's okay or justified.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 04:37 PM
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That sub is bonkers
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 09:43 PM
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I am aware there are Marxist feminists. What's your guy opinions on them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/21 05:47 PM
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