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You have to remember this: TRP accurately describes modern, secular Western European women. Outside Western Europe, people see financial assets as an inherent part of what makes a man attractive. Let's put it this way. European women see money as something a man has. Women outside Europe see money as something a man is. There are exceptions on both sides, but the thing is that the "gold digger" phenomenon, a de facto financial arrangement, is mostly a Western idea. It is seen as undesirable beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 07:16 PM
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Well guys, it's been a while. I went to India, and while I was there, I got to meet a number of women (and their families) who are interested in marrying me. Not all of them were attractive (and as a rule, Indians of both sexes are less attractive than Whites), but enough were. It was surreal: I'm so used to being unattractive and invisible that it shocked me that women could be interested in me. But apparently they can be. I've shared this with my incel brown friends, and they are far more amen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/17 06:13 PM
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Most of the Indian Race Trolls are just that: trolls. I have a hard time believing they are telling the truth. I would expect to find one, just ONE Indian man online who did not have a raging fetish for blonde women. I personally prefer Asians.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/17 10:37 PM
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I'm completely serious. I have seen what inceldom brings, and I will use any means necessary to make sure my child has a robust sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:24 AM
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You better help you kid score serious pussy. Or he's going to be looking for answers, and he might just come across The Red Pill. Then you'll wish you had intervened.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:29 AM
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I'm a relatively normal incel, but when I have children, I will go out of my way to ensure they score serious pussy. I'll start by selecting an egg donor on the basis of extroversion: psychology has shown introversion vs. extroversion to be largely genetic, and obviously women like extroverts, so let's select for that. As the child grows up, I will instill in him strength and discipline, and force him to play team sports and weightlifting. Once he becomes 15 I will administer anabolic steroids. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:27 AM
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Why is it a weird question? I think parents have a moral obligation to prevent grievous harm from coming to their children. Being an incel is a grievous harm, if their depraved conversations are anything to go by. I'm a relatively normal incel, but when I have children, I will go out of my way to ensure they score serious pussy. I'll start by selecting an egg donor on the basis of extroversion: psychology has shown introversion vs. extroversion to be largely genetic, and obviously women like ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:25 AM
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We also have to think of protective factors. I can think of a couple. Extroversion Obviously if introversion harms you, extroversion helps you. Black Race Ever heard of a Black anorexic? Neither have I! I've never heard of a Black incel either. I think Blacks are inculcated in a culture that promotes food/drug consumption and hypersexuality. Because of this, they don't have some of the problems that people of other races have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 06:06 PM
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The brown incel has returned! Beeen talking to prospective brides for arranged marriage. The most shocking thing? Women and their families are actually interested in me! That would never have happened here. Another thing is that for some reason, rejections don't bother me. I've been rejected by Indian women for all kinds of reasons (they think I'm fat, they want an extrovert, they don't want to move to America, etc). I don't see the rejections as a referendum on my self worth, I see them as the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 05:06 PM
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Assuming that's true, then that's the perfect reason to have more Indian and Asian guys. The whole point of TRP is to make synthetic alphas. If Indian/Asian guys are as hopeless as you say they are, then they should make the perfect canvas upon which to work. (As an aside, I'm also fairly certain that 80+% of the Indian troll threads are the work of one or two deranged individuals. But that's a good reason to ban trolls, not single out a particular race.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:06 AM
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I'm fairly certain most of the "hot blondes" threads are the work of a single or a couple determined trolls. I have hundreds of Indian male acquaintances and I literally don't know ANYONE who acts like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:02 AM
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I would talk only about optimal sexual strategy and evolutionary psychology. None of the "Alt Right" or White Nationalist crap. It really ruins the conversation. For example, I think Heartiste (formerly Roissy) is one of the world's most insightful men when it comes to discussions of sexuality, but then he has to go and spoil it with his incessant White Nationalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:56 AM
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I'm 90% sure all those threads are the work of a single determined troll. I literally don't know any Indian who acts like that IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:54 AM
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Lol, if I'm not "of here," I don't know where I'm "of." I can't even speak Hindi. I hate going to India. My entire circle of friends is White. I don't know how anyone could reasonably say I'm more Indian than American. One reason I can't sympathize with "Alt Right" people is their incredibly patronizing view that they know more about me than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 12:53 AM
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I think the issue here is that wealthy, industrialized Western societies see sexuality as an abstracted from social/financial concerns, so women choose men based solely on sexual attraction. Thus, they choose Chads. This presents a problem for feminists, because 1) They want to change traditional masculinity. 2) Women prefer traditionally masculine men. As you expect, these two things cannot both exist at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 03:18 AM
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Meh, I have 2 close female friends, but they're pretty useless because they have no interest in sleeping with me, and they are relatively quiet and cannot connect me to people who may be interested. I personally think it's sort of sociopathic, but if I have children, I'm going to teach them to only make friends who are useful, and offer proximate or future financial, social, or sexual gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 03:07 AM
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Meh, Red Pill has a lot of shit in it too. I think Heartiste is one of the world's most insightful and brilliant men when it comes to dating/sex/romance, but then he has to go and spoil it with his nonsense about white nationalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 02:49 AM
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No I don't. Trump went to Wharton and I consider him the embodiment of prole values (and TRP). Again: it doesn't matter how educated or wealthy you are. What matters is how you act and your outlook on the world. Let's show this with some real people from my life. We have two medical residents (I'm a MS4). Resident A has an interest in public health and plans to run a primary care clinic in rural Latin America. He places a relatively low value on money. He has an egalitarian relationship with a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 10:01 PM
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TRP is not "working class." Neither is Donald Trump, who is TRP personified. But both of them reflect a more proletarian ethos than TBP. Liberals consist of well-educated whites and poorly educated statistically underperforming minorities who vote liberal for entitlements. The poorly educated whites vote conservative. I would say that both poorly educated whites and minorities reflect more conservative, proletarian values. But minorities won't vote that way because it's completely irrational for…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:17 PM
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You're thinking of "prole[tarian]" in relation to the means of production, or in terms of money. We're thinking of "proletarian" as a set of cultural traits to describe individuals generally from working classes or the American heartland, and in opposition to American coastal UMC liberals. For example: Donald Trump is proletarian. He degrades his language ("bigly"), wears a ridiculous haircut, participates in professional wrestling, rejects multiculturalism, and assesses women solely in terms of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 03:46 AM
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This is good. I agree with you that a big difference is that TRP has more men of color than Blue Pill, and in those cultures, being a provider is more valued. But I think you're missing the elephant in the room. TBP has a strong feminist contingent whose ideal relationship is an exclusively romantic liaison between affluent Westerners. (Western in culture if not race). From that perspective, the idea of valuing provider traits makes no sense. The only way it could exist is if the man had ridicul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 03:36 AM
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I'm a 25 yo brown guy. I have quite a few good friends. My two best friends (the ones I trust the most) are European women some years older than me. None of them have any interest in sleeping with me. None of my friends, male or female, create a social circle that generates dating opportunities for me. I don't go out anymore. I used to go out with friends once every few weeks to bars. A few times I've been to high end clubs. I used to approach a few women each time. I've never had any success wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:27 AM
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Incel Brown Dude has returned! We find ourselves in 2017. Another year without so much as a kiss from a woman. Though I have stopped attending parties and events for a few years now. It's just so pointless to go there and spend time and money for no results, and have women ignore you again and again. I have begun to experience feelings of despair and self-hatred. I have to fight them, though. I have to build up my body and mind for my marriage in the future, and to fend off the Chads who will se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 05:05 AM
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Am Indian, am getting an arranged marriage. No, it is not possible for Whites to get arranged marriages. This isn't just a situation where a man trades resources for female sexuality and exclusivity. There is a huge cultural, religious, communal, and familial component to this. You are expected to navigate all those things. I of course have the religious and familial components down, but I have to spend time after work drilling my Hindi just to look better to prospective in-laws. You are startin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:28 AM
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Lol, I don't think they like me. I just don't receive as much hate from them as I do from feminists. The current ideology of the Far Left (including feminism) is "lol fuck the white man." The problem is that they see brown people (especially brown men) as honorary whites. So basically, these people then direct hate at me. Among the "alt right," there certainly is a disproportionately loud contingent who argues (less eloquently) that "Hitler didn't get the job done." But I think a strong majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:23 AM
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Brown incel dude has returned. Been going to the gym for the past few weeks, DOMS murders me for the next couple days after each go, but you get used to it. Not much progress on the (arranged) marriage front, but I'm talking to a grill soon. Even if she doesn't like me, it's no big loss. I'll have plenty of interest, thanks to the US Dollar being strong against the severely undervalued Indian Rupee. So my salary (and attractiveness) get artificially inflated! Hue hue hue. It feels wonderfully su…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 10:43 PM
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So my best (platonic) friend is an older blonde lady. She knows I'm an incel: what i told her was "women aren't interested in dating me, and they never have been." In any case, I still assess relationships in transactional terms: the woman offers sexuality, and the man offers resources ("beta") or his sheer presence ("alpha"). My best friend is an angel, but rest assured that she did nothing to change my views on relationships, even after I told her I was an incel. I like Red Pill ideas, but I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 05:55 PM
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I've started working out again, but not for the purposes of dating. The reason is anti-Chad prophylaxis for later, when my marriage is arranged. The way I see it, there are two ways to go about using the gym in dating. The first is to make it a centerpiece of your attractiveness, as Chads do. Unfortunately, women will not notice unless you are exceptionally muscle-bound and/or be under 10% bf, so this is effectively impossible unless you make the gym your life. The second way is to incorporate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:08 PM
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I actually read Models at that time, it kinda fucked me up. I spent, and continue to spend, a lot of time doing things I dislike for the sake of the future and the family I will have. Models goes against that, and tells you to practice "honest living." One of the examples it gives is giving up a corporate career in favor of following a passion for art. That might be acceptable advice for a liberal white dude in Austin, but it's complete anathema for me, and not something I can do without pissing…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:54 PM
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Yeah, I've seen those statistics, and they correlate with my experiences. Average white/black guys don't have it easy, but average Indian guys don't have a snowball's chance in hell when it comes to dating. Actually in college, I tried to read about game and apply it. I approached about 15-20 or so women in social situations, but I pretty much weirded out all of them. Not the end of the world, of course, but after that I gave up. I had watched women overlook me for whites who were fatter, shorte…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:20 PM
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Definitely. I won't be so arrogant as to blame everything on my race, but I'd say it is a massive multiplier. If I was White, I'm not saying I'd get laid, but I think women would at least give me a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 07:49 PM
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The Reds. Not a contest. We're talking people who have slept with dozens of attractive women. They are all tall/white/ripped, of course, but that is the Red Pill ideal. How do I know they're Red? Because they freely admit to viewing women in terms of sexual pleasure they can obtain from them, and they regularly use the terms "alpha" and "beta" in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:16 PM
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Well, I'm turning 26 soon and I'm still a virgin, so I guess I've finally joined the ranks of incels. I used to be a progressive, but trust me: it didn't help at all. I'm not sure where the meme comes from that being a feminist who respects women is attractive. Donald Trump is a serial adulterer who grabs women by their private parts and he gets laid so much that dodging STDs is his "personal Vietnam." I have one advantage in that I'm Indian* and I will get an arranged marriage, but that could t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 03:57 PM
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Yeah, it was hilarious. I follow Wilson on Twitter, and he frequently gets into random fights with "Alt Right" proponents. He always goes back to their supposed virginity. Just earlier today he accused a man of "never having touched a woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:57 AM
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One of the things that turns you towards TRP is that you realize that for all their talk of changing sexuality, feminists and progressives use the language of traditional sexuality to cariacture people they disagree with. I'm not sure if you guys remember the whole kerfuffle with the Alt Right and the GOP Consultant Rick Wilson. On MSNBC, Wilson criticized the Alt Right as "childless single men who masturbate to anime." And that insult reflects Wilson's worldview: he is an ardent conservative, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:30 PM
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I think you're wrong there. Perhaps some hicks in rural Nebraska might be affronted by different marriage customs, but most urban liberals realize that individualism is an American cultural idea as opposed to a universal norm. They don't start screaming "what what what?" when faced with arranged marriage. You've said you're Australian, and I hear that Australia (the continent in general, not you) has major problems with racism. My parents did not allow us to study abroad in Sydney for that reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 09:11 AM
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So, 2 things. 1) You realize that modern arranged marriage is more similar to "arranged dating" than anything else, right? The main difference is that the parents play a larger role, and both parties are looking for different traits than Westerners would be. 2) You realize that even if I did dislike something, I could go with it for pragmatic reasons, right? That's the main reason I'm doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:22 AM
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But I thought you're Indian. The modern Hindi word for "fake" is "filmi." We all have it beaten into us that movies are fake, and romantic love is just nonsense that Bollywood uses as a cheap plot device. I know Indians who believe in love, but I'm not sure I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:40 PM
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Why fight it? Arranged marriage favors you if you meet what it asks of men (high SES, good height and looks, etc). Given that you're posting on this forum, I'm going to bet you can bring the SES. If it favors you, shouldn't you be looking to participate in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 07:32 PM
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In the old way, nobody chooses. In the new way, parents set it up, and they get input into the decision, but both parties make the final decision themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 06:25 PM
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We are all completely Westernized and whitewashed, and all my friends are political progressives (I'm more of a moderate though). I think they focus on casual sex, but are open to other possibilities. I don't think they have a racial preference, but being upper middle class, we mostly run into whites by default. Our time for dating is limited because of our careers (medicine, finance, law, programming, etc) I've given up dating, and will get an arranged marriage when I am in residency.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:55 PM
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I dunno, I have Indian friends who have never heard of TRP who are incel. One friend has told me he hasn't been laid in 3 years. I've tried obliquely telling him that being a morbidly obese alcoholic doesn't help matters, but he didn't want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:14 PM
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When I first looked into the Alt Right, I thought it had some legitimate points. I mean, the Left celebrates ethnonationalism for everyone but Whites (and Jews, as of recently), so it's only fair that those groups also be allowed to have regions where they can practice ethnonationalism. And I think there are innate racial and sexual differences, that may extend to intelligence as well. But then I started reading other Alt Right people. Some of them were straight up neo-Nazis. Others described a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:11 PM
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Male. Leaning red due to recent events. Not completely red due to concerns about the Alt Right and racism (I'm brown). I did starting strength, and then various other strength routines I had a 69.3 when I was a senior in college, going by that calculator. I was at about 15% bf. The most I got from my strength training was a family friend commenting that I looked strong, and an Asian girl on the street catcalling me. I got zero romantic attention whatsoever. That was a major reason I quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 02:13 AM
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So I went to various websites with the intention of setting up an appointment, but I couldn't do it. Something felt wrong about the whole endeavor. I couldn't quite place what it was, but even perusing the women's profiles made me think "this is weird" and "why does everyone look like Nicki Minaj"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:56 PM
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Out of curiosity, were you an older virgin as well? I think if you are, the knowledge that everyone else has enjoyed something that you haven't makes sex take up an outsized importance in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 04:59 AM
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I think that could be worth doing, but only after I've solicited several prostitutes. Right now, when I go out, all I think of is "I'm not going to get laid, what's the point, I want to go home." The plan is that after I've slept with many hookers, I'll realize sex is no big deal, and may be more desirous of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 01:21 AM
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Well yeah, that's the plan. But there's a few years until all is said and done, so I got time to kill until then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 01:17 AM
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Hmmm, you might be right. As you can probably tell from my post history, I'm an older male virgin, and I'm considering a trip to a foreign country to sleep with a large number of prostitutes. It's not how I wanted things to happen, it's not how I hope things will end, but it's what I need right now. Perhaps after I'm done, and I've got the sex crap out of the way, I'll be more amenable to things like emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:10 AM
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No no no, I meant a formal thought disorder in the clinical sense. It's very rare to see a normal person (not psychotic or manic) have such a tangential speech pattern, jumping from "Incels" to "ISIS" to "WoW."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:59 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like you have a formal thought disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:46 PM
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A few times, but the man was very wealthy, well-dressed, and in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:52 PM
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The ironic thing is, I used to be interested in progressivism and social justice until the Brock Turner case. Like the rest of the world, I thought he should have faced more punishment...and then I realized that progressives were the same people arguing for "ban the box" and such initiatives. That was the day my ideology turned around completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:33 AM
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All right, all right, I get it. This isn't that bad. I stand by my point about SJWs, and I can pull up many more examples (unrelated to sexual assault) to back up my point. But I get that this doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:55 AM
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I agree this is not close to the Stanford victim, but let's be honest here, if a man wrote this article, it would cause a verbal bloodbath on the internet. To answer your question, I've never been in any sexual situations. Women don't like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:39 AM
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Nah, I played at some competitions and recitals, but that was about it. I dumped the piano after high school, it never produced any benefits in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:25 AM
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http://www.dailycal.org/2016/06/30/361455/ I'll save you the time going through her inane ramblings and get to the point. My fixation with pleasing him turned into this endless cycle where Sam would stop and tell me that he “felt bad” even though we would continue to touch each other anyway. I guess I misremembered the part about the man being drunk, I got that from one of the article comments. Then again, it's a safe bet that if a college guy is coming back from a party at 2 am, he is drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:24 AM
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I am disappointed. I trained in classical piano for 6 years and there was not a single ho who liked my sonatas. From what you make it sound like, I could have put half that energy into metal and I would bathe in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 11:32 PM
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Terrible for men too I imagine, if they hide in their room writing fanfics they're probably fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 11:25 PM
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So there was a case a few months back where an Asian SJW took advantage of a man's drunken state, and then bragged about it in her school paper. The outcry from SJWs was muted at best, especially compared to the similar Brock Turner case. I'm sure there are some true believers in social justice, but I think the vast majority don't buy into the tripe. They want to use it as a bludgeon against people they dislike, such as fratboys (UVa Rolling Stone), rich white dudes (Duke Lacrosse), nerds, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 11:08 PM
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In this horribly fat world, being thin automatically makes you a 7/10 or more unless your face is grossly disfigured.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:41 PM
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I don't know anyone who would accept 150K unless they were in academia, even in the lowest-paying specialties. I'm going into IM, and if you offered me that I would probably assault you. It's that insulting. EDIT: Ok, there are private practice jobs that pay that little in NYC and SF. Most of the people who take them are women who greatly value living in those cities, usually because of a wealthy husband. Regardless, most doctors, male or female, prefer to date within their socioeconomic strata.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:30 PM
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Why the quotations? You can check my history if you don't believe I go to medical school. I will say that it's entirely possible that the physicians that taught me this are wrong, as they trained before DBT existed. Or they intend to teach us not to say "BPD" or "Borderline Traits" and stop taking a Psych history at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:13 PM
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Your story doesn't make any sense. You say you're Borderline, and one of the first things they teach in medical school is that Borderlines are largely incapable of having long-term relationships. Then again, I'm not sure my teachers or books ever heard of polygamy, so maybe it's different in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:31 AM
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It's between beta and nothing for the OP. A 5'6" Indian guy isn't going to have a harem or pull in nightclubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:56 PM
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If you're Bengali, arranged marriage is an accepted choice in your culture, so I would aim to get a good career, and meet a woman through that channel. I've also been unlucky in love, but being Indian means I can get an arranged marriage, so I'm going to go with that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:13 PM
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Meh, it's worse for Asian men than Indian men because Asian women benefit from positive sexual stereotypes, while Indian women don't. I see about as many Indian men dating non-Indians as I do Indian women. In contrast, I see more white guys with Asian women than Asian guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 10:40 PM
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The Russian immigrants here are disproportionately urban liberals, and the difference is that, being Russian, they were not brought up with anti-Asian stereotypes like American women were. That's really it. You don't gain any points with Russians for being yellow or brown. It's just that you don't lose points, and you're on a more even playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:53 PM
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So by now I've known well over a thousand young people in the Indian diaspora, and I've seen...not a lot, but definitely some men with attractive Whites and Latinas. They aren't your stereotypical geeky Indian guy, though. As for Eastern Europeans, I don't think they like Asians or Indians. I think the ones who immigrated here are urban liberals who were NOT brought up with anti-Asian stereotypes. That makes them more open to dating non-white men. (One older Russian colleague tells me that peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:47 PM
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Arranged marriages are the best option for anyone who isn't an alpha male. I'm Indian and my parents are already arranging my marriage. I have a much stronger vantage point in this game than I do in American dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:58 PM
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I see. IMO the "kink" stuff is kinda gross, but to each his own. I'm a 25 yo virgin, so I'll look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 05:17 AM
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Da fk is a "munch"? Does it refer to a re-enactment of human centipede or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 11:40 PM
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So I started out by talking to them politely. They called me a "FOB," a "loser," a "conservative," and various other terms of derision. When I asked the question, they just fell back on a claim that only losers have arranged marriages, and they would be social pariahs if they had them. Which doesn't really hold water to me: I'm in medical school, and every older Indian physician I know had an arranged marriage, of course: dating did not exist in India back then. They don't appear to be social pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:12 AM
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This is basically the entire premise of Doctor Nerdlove's blog. Or if you're familiar with discussions of Asian/Indian masculinity, feminists frequently interrupt and derail those conversations with discussions of "toxic masculinity" and "Black Lives Matter," and argue that Asian/Indian men should seek to create a "new masculinity." They don't ever really tell us what that entails, except that it involves giving allegiance to social justice causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:36 PM
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Bluepill and Feminist advice is basically nice-guying, just in a more subtle way. Nice-guys: "If I buy dinner and spend time with her, I'll get laid!" Bluepill/Feminism: "If you adhere to our political ideology, you'll get laid!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:50 PM
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I don't disagree. Actually, Indians look at love very differently than we do, and as you alluded to, think little of our idea of "romantic love." But then again, women don't lust for betas anyways. So what do you lose on that front?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:38 PM
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I sort of see the difference. The latter gives more agency to the woman. But the end result is the same, so what difference does it make?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:02 PM
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I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound like you know how arranged marriages work. It's very much an exchange of male socioeconomic status for female looks and femininity. Male looks and female SES are of secondary importance. Being a doctor is a massive boost to my SES, and I can definitely marry an attractive, feminine woman by virtue of that alone. I have suffered enough in my life. Forget being foreveralone, I've faced enough abuse and pain in medical school. I'm not interested in deliberately seeki…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:11 AM
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My failures constitute as much an argument as your friend's success. As for Indians and Asians, the major problem is that we face a number of unsavory stereotypes (small penis, effeminate, nerdy, tech support, etc) that hamper our chances in the United States, and make us come across as more "beta." But no matter. In any case, I have "put in the damn effort." I've slaved through the backbreaking hell of medical school, and will soon begin residency. My parents are already arranging my marriage t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:56 AM
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It's certainly possible. But I couldn't pull off the "lets do the fun thing." I don't have the status to do so. The fratboy does. That goes to the heart of what I was saying: I need to offer additional resources to get a woman interested in me. The fratboy's presence is all he needs to offer. As for my friends, the main differences between the alphas and betas were muscles, height, and race (the alphas were White, the betas were Asian/Indian).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:17 AM
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Well, I have been on dates before. I'm "stuck on third base," I guess you would put it. But that doesn't count as sex, or at least that's what Bill Clinton indicated. For me, getting my female partners to do anything sexual was like pulling teeth. It was exceedingly frustrating. Before you tell me "it's because you were a raging misogynist terper," these events happened years before I ever heard of TRP or PUA. But then I learned that both the women I dated were living it up at the frat scene. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:54 AM
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In my personal case, I'm a 25 yo male virgin, though I'm Indian so that will change once my marriage is arranged. I've been starved of sex for so long that I don't care if my partner is a freak or a starfish. In a more general case, you know what they say, sex is like pizza blah blah blah. I think most men will be fine with banging a woman who just lies there, especially if she's reasonably attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:20 AM
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For women, sex is a fun activity with alphas and a chore with betas. Thus, the beta needs to offer additional resources to procure what the alpha gets for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 01:54 AM
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Moreover, people weren't born Redpillers. The subreddit didn't even exist until a few years ago. Just because that's the demographic of people on the internet, I'm pretty sure most of us were your typical UMC urban progressive millennials until we had romantic experiences that demonstrated the truth of The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:36 AM
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The second one. I was mostly talking about men procuring sex from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:32 AM
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I think the issue is that Redpill guys tend to be dudes in tech who live in areas surrounded by upper middle class, feminist people (San Francisco, Seattle, any university campus, etc). So it feels like they're constantly under siege from staunchly "Blue pill" people. The "miscegenation" thing is just because of the racists that TRP attracts. And ultimately the reason that, as a brown guy, I don't associate with TRP. I think TRP is the truth, I just wish it didn't have so many racists and shitpo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:28 AM
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80/20 is more a guideline than a hard and fast rule. But I've been out on the town with betas and alphas, and it's night and day. It's definitely a major struggle for a beta to get laid on an average night out. The best he can hope for is wining and dining a woman in his social circle, before eventually having sex with her...1 week after the woman got rawdogged in a nightclub restroom by Chad. When sexbots become sufficiently advanced, I think the time will be right to discard real women as sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:23 AM
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It's something women do with alphas and have for betas, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:16 AM
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Most single women can get sex whenever they want it, so why would they pay for it? Most single men can't get it so easily. The reason for this is what I said. Question: if most women have a low sex drive then why the hell do so many women buy vibrators???!!! Probably because it offers a more reliable route to orgasm than sex does. That doesn't really change what I said, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:55 PM
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Prostitution has existed mainly as a phenomenon of men purchasing sex from women across cultures and across millennia. How the hell would that happen if the sex drives were remotely equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:34 PM
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Not really. Women want sex with and lust for alphas. That's not really solipsistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 10:06 PM
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I was talking more about obtaining sex. But regarding the "jam session" thing, that sounds more like the sex a woman has with an alpha. With a beta, she'll do the starfish shit or whatever. I'm generalizing, but you get the point: women will perform more varied and interesting sex acts with more attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 09:08 PM
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I wouldn't say so. If an estrogen deficiency had a stronger link to disordered sexuality than testosterone, why wouldn't we just use aromatase inhibitors instead of androgen deprivation if we wanted to ablate male sexuality? Though I agree with you that there are stronger arguments. Like the fact that men will line up to pay $50 to enter an establishment, where they will then buy ridiculously overpriced drinks while listening to a kid play music from his laptop, just to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 09:00 PM
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Are you playing devil's advocate to help develop my reasoning, or are you seriously arguing against me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:46 PM
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I read the hashtag. I found it a bit funny at times, but sad more than anything else. As you probably inferred from my name, I'm Indian, and I plan to get an arranged marriage, mostly for the pragmatic issue that I'm an 8 in India and a 3 in America. For a number of years, I attempted to date American women, but I gave up and instead decided that I'm a beta and my best chances lay in arranged marriage, and a trade of my socioeconomic status for a woman's looks and sexuality. This kind of trade i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:14 PM
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That's one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 07:57 PM
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I think I can agree with this. But I also think that this is something feminists miss when they lament why men with low sociosexual status don't join their cause. Because we know that sex positivity means that alphas will get more sex, and we get even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:51 PM
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Haha, exclusive for a night at least, is what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:46 PM
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Meh, if the woman goes through with offering sex, she knows that he gets his exclusive commitment. "He could have anyone but he chose me!!" and all that. If she doesn't go through, the alpha will find another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:27 PM
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Why can't the validation be something they feel for themselves, rather than something they show off?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:14 PM
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They do, but only with men who possess intrinsic sociosexual status ("alphas"). In other words, they desire sex with Adam Levine. They don't desire sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:12 PM
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I believe you. But do you think this might be happening here because this is a thread specifically designed to elicit feminist opinions, and women with a higher sex drive may gravitate towards feminism (because it offers a world where they won't be judged for having it)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:11 PM
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No, I merely observe. I've been on nights out with both alpha and beta guys. It's night and day. And the end result is frequently that the alpha guy finds someone to go home with, while the beta guys end up with nothing. Do the alphas provide more pleasurable sex? Maybe, but there's no way for a woman to know that before actually having sex. So she goes with them because they are alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:09 PM
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But the second paragraph doesn't make sense. Women worship athletes and musicians. Is the sex they provide inherently better than that of anyone else? There's no evidence of that, but even if true, there's no way to know that before the fact. Women want sex with those guys for the validation of having done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:06 PM
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Right you are. I corrected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 05:41 PM
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I don't believe the desire is there, on the female side. I think that both men and women have a large variation in their sexual desire, but on the whole, the male sex drive dwarfs that of the female one. I'm sure there's lots of studies and evidence to prove this, but what convinced me is that they taught us in medical school that androgen ablation is a major treatment modality for men with strong or societally unacceptable paraphilias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 05:36 PM
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You get the validation of being with an alpha male. That's why alphas have disproportionate access to one-night-stands, and that's why TRP promulgates the 80-20 rule (which I think is hyperbole, but has some validity to it).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 05:32 PM
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