Indog Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
24	Barack Obama: Get Off Julia! "One of the major themes of this political campaign is that you don't need a dad if you have a state"		Indog	/r/MensRights	08/05/12 09:32 PM
21	Barbara Kay: Stop denying fathers their rights		Indog	/r/MensRights	15/06/11 09:35 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
6	Barack Obama: Get Off Julia! "One of the major themes of this political campaign is that you don't need a dad if you have a state" 23:10 - And this is not considerered patriarchal at all "you don't worry honey we're going to pass a law that's going to make sure you get what you deserve we're going to give you all this free stuff don't worry your pretty little head about where it's coming from we've got it all covered for you...." If a husband treated a woman the way that President Obama wants to treat all women he would be shouted down and pitchforks would be thrown through his misogynistic ass for being such a discriminato…	/r/MensRights	08/05/12 10:03 PM
3	False flag alert. Go to preferences, under link options: don't show me sites with a score less than Change to blank, save.	/r/MensRights	23/03/12 10:11 PM
2	False flag alert. Ah, my prefs were set to -4 to hide links. Fixed. Tinfoil hat safely stowed.	/r/MensRights	23/03/12 09:51 PM
2	False flag alert. So... I don't see anything there when I'm logged in, but when I log out I can see 10 threads or so. What sorcery is this? Have they preemtively banned MR posters?	/r/MensRights	23/03/12 09:37 PM
5	GirlWritesWhat: Men not marrying? Another great video, GWW. Very interesting about the 'respect' for the role angle. I had always thought of male shaming for feminine behavior to be from a modern point of view, more about how feminism succeeded in overthrowing the traditional female role, while nothing similar existed for men, but I think you're exactly right. If you're curious the OkCupid 'study' she talks about is here: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ Interesting was that while men rated women's…	/r/MensRights	16/03/12 12:27 AM
3	MensRights...as a man, why should I care? Statistically speaking, fatherlessness is very harmful to children. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/15/barbara-kay-it-takes-two-to-raise-a-child/ Mounting sociological evidence confirms the terrible social costs of fatherlessness: triple the rates of truancy, teen pregnancies and drug abuse, to name a few. Morally, you have a responsibility to do what's best for them, and that means making sure you're included in their upbringing.	/r/MensRights	15/03/12 06:59 PM
1	MensRights...as a man, why should I care? Of course I would want to see them but I would never object to her taking full custody if I knew she was fit to do so. Do you think your father would say that your mother was "fit to do so" with regard to having full custody? I'm going to guess yes. So how would you feel if your parents split up, and your father "never objected" to her getting full custody, and you could rarely, if ever, see your father? In reality, you are going to have a huge emotional attachment to your children. As are they …	/r/MensRights	15/03/12 06:47 PM
10	This sums up the Southern Poverty Law Center (SLPC) controversy nicely. (Thanks GWW) The Jessica Valenti video she refers to is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgcW1KdOMX8	/r/MensRights	09/03/12 01:15 PM
4	Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy \| GendErratic The very idea that an identity has to be gendered is in of itself contradictory to gender equality and stems from a level of sexism that is in of itself a detriment to gender equality. I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you here.. Equality and sameness are different. I can't tell if you're actually espousing a blanks late view of human nature. There's ample evidence of gender differences in statistical, average predisposition towards certain behaviors.	/r/MensRights	06/03/12 08:08 PM
-1	Rush Limbaugh Calls a woman a slut over Birth control Rights, this would never be such a big deal if it were a man being called a player. (X-post from r/politics) You're right, Government shouldn't have to step in and force you to. Insurance companies should do their job and pay for this doctor prescribed medication. Instead they're trying to cut care and save money. Their job is to adhere to their contracts by paying for certain drugs that their plans explicitly cover when there's a need. By your logic, an insurance company is morally required to pay for everything, regardless of whether it's covered under its plan or not, regardless of cost, etc. Coveri…	/r/MensRights	01/03/12 09:55 PM
-2	Rush Limbaugh Calls a woman a slut over Birth control Rights, this would never be such a big deal if it were a man being called a player. (X-post from r/politics) The problem with your argument is you're simply looking at it as a contraceptive, instead of a medical treatment. I'm looking at it as both. Prescription plans don't cover plenty of drugs that are medically necessary, for various reasons, including cost. When I was in college, I needed an $80/month prescription that was medically necessary and not covered, while my health plan was dishing out birth control for free to any woman who wanted it (which we all know is 99% just for contraception). I t…	/r/MensRights	01/03/12 07:15 PM
-2	Rush Limbaugh Calls a woman a slut over Birth control Rights, this would never be such a big deal if it were a man being called a player. (X-post from r/politics) It's no different from no longer letting companies refuse to cover pre-existing conditions. It's true that the US health care system is broken, but applying government force to private business isn't the solution. If you really think people have that freedom of choice in this world/economy, you're living in a dream. Unfortunately many people probably don't have this freedom. But the solution is not a bigger government, more deficit, and more regulation. Sure, requiring birth control by itself is…	/r/MensRights	01/03/12 07:09 PM
-5	Rush Limbaugh Calls a woman a slut over Birth control Rights, this would never be such a big deal if it were a man being called a player. (X-post from r/politics) including her friend whose ovary had to be removed because her insurance wouldn't cover the HBC she needed to prevent the cysts from growing This is an unfortunate case, but it's no more tragic than anybody else who needed prescription coverage for certain drugs only to find their plan doesn't cover it. Ultimately it's up to the individual to determine whether their job's prescription coverage is sufficient, and to purchase supplementary insurance if necessary. and nothing to do with government …	/r/MensRights	01/03/12 06:40 PM
-6	Rush Limbaugh Calls a woman a slut over Birth control Rights, this would never be such a big deal if it were a man being called a player. (X-post from r/politics) They are not demanding Free Birth Control. They're demanding that thier employers not be able to deny them birth control through their insurance provider. Many of these women need birth control for reasons beyond simply "not getting pregnant" for health reasons. Very well, then let them choose a job that has a prescription plan that includes birth control. Really we're only talking about 20 odd dollars a month that the pills will cost them. It makes little sense when a company is under no obliga…	/r/MensRights	01/03/12 06:19 PM
-5	Rush Limbaugh Calls a woman a slut over Birth control Rights, this would never be such a big deal if it were a man being called a player. (X-post from r/politics) Thus, if society wishes to give birth control rights to its people, it can. The state has the guns and the prisons, so if our democracy wants the state to point a gun at my head and force me to contribute to birth control, it can. That doesn't make it morally ok.	/r/MensRights	01/03/12 06:01 PM
2	Do Men in Power Advocate for Men? \| GendErratic A pride of lions is a "male dominated society". Lionesses would have legitimate complaints, like, they hunt the food but the males get first helpings to the meat. So if "lioness feminism" had been in place for some time, and some of these issues had been addressed, should lionesses dismiss any claims of unfairness by the males with "well we're still in a patriarchy dummy, so you're privileged and your complaints are unfounded!" But in truth the alpha male gets in power by killing the previous al…	/r/MensRights	16/02/12 06:22 PM
1	Barbara Kay: It takes two to raise a child A child is 50% mom's genes and 50% dad's genes. Explain how the child "in a biological sense is more hers".	/r/MensRights	15/02/12 10:50 PM
2	Barbara Kay: It takes two to raise a child Nice hour old troll account. I make sure that in ugly divorces children stay with their moms and nine out of ten times it's the right call, objectively in terms of justice AND for the future psychological health of the child. Is that why, as the article says, 70% of children of divorce support equal shared parenting, and this number increases to 93% when specifically children in equal parenting households are counted? Seems more like 9 times out of ten it's the wrong call.	/r/MensRights	15/02/12 10:13 PM
6	Considering women won't date you unless you have your own place and have income comparable or better than theirs, aren't they a large variable in keeping the patriarchy going? http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/mar/06/women.discriminationatwork Many see Norway's rule that 40% of board members be female as a positive example, when it actually harms equality of opportunity (by making it easier for a given woman to achieve a higher position; if only 20% of qualified, interested applicants are female, then 20% of those holding the position should be female).	/r/MensRights	12/02/12 04:09 PM
3	Considering women won't date you unless you have your own place and have income comparable or better than theirs, aren't they a large variable in keeping the patriarchy going? surely they would usually have the same standard of living conditions as each other? Sure, but this is not exactly what "equality of outcome" would seek to measure. For example, the infamous "women only earn 75 cents for each dollar men make" surveyed full time workers. Housewives wouldn't be included in the survey, but many of the women who were surveyed had taken time off work to raise children, and had interrupted their careers in order to do so. This diminished their experience relative to m…	/r/MensRights	12/02/12 03:37 PM
3	Considering women won't date you unless you have your own place and have income comparable or better than theirs, aren't they a large variable in keeping the patriarchy going? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_of_outcome	/r/MensRights	12/02/12 03:22 PM
4	Considering women won't date you unless you have your own place and have income comparable or better than theirs, aren't they a large variable in keeping the patriarchy going? Wanting equal rights for women doesn't preclude also wanting a man to be a provider Depends how you define equal rights. If it means equality of outcome, it is certainly incompatible with more men being provider in traditional relationships. You're never going to have (uncontrolled) income equality as long as people tend to make "man provider woman housewife" choices. If equal rights mean equality of opportunity, then sure, there's no conflict. (but note that equality of outcome tends to be what…	/r/MensRights	12/02/12 02:56 PM
12	How should I reply to this, posted on my female friend's facebook. She's not usually this sexist. Isn't the male punctuated version just as sexist as the female punctuated one? I don't really see a problem, it does illustrate the importance of punctuation, which seems to be the only conclusion it's going for.	/r/MensRights	10/02/12 07:44 PM
1	The woman communism theory So do you think that, ignoring gender, if all people who thought communism, 100% income equality, is a good idea were to get together on an island, then communism would suddenly work there? I think not.	/r/MensRights	10/02/12 03:55 PM
2	Really? I cant even think of words And yes I have seen adverts on TV now using violence against a woman as the joke. Examples?	/r/MensRights	09/02/12 10:25 PM
51	Something I realized about the "Don't Be That Guy" ad campaigns. Correlation, causation, etc, etc. It was introduced in "several Canadian cities", yet we hear about a positive change in only one city. Why might this be? Google answers: In Edmonton, the campaign saw an increase in sex crimes of 14%: http://www.edmontonsun.com/2012/01/26/sex-crimes-on-rise-in-city	/r/MensRights	01/02/12 08:23 PM
5	Masculinity Studies offered as a course at Concordia University They've recreated DNA in a laboratory out of non-organic materials (aka, it's falsifiable) Abiogenesis seeks to explain the origin of life on earth. The ability to create certain materials in a lab is interesting, but as "origin of life", it's not falsifiable. It has interesting implications for our understanding of early evolution, but it's not on the same level. This is exactly how I see evolutionary psychology. I can list many, many more if you'd like. You can't, and you know it. Also, I aske…	/r/MensRights	01/02/12 01:10 AM
5	Masculinity Studies offered as a course at Concordia University Er, do you think this is unnecessarily vitriolic? If you can't lay off the personal attacks, this will be my last reply. Almost all of evospych is 100% totally unfalsifiable, pseudo scientific horseshit. I have read a few books whose well qualified authors disagree with you. That said, not all ideas within the sciences are equal. For example, abiogenesis will never be on the same level as the rest of the evolutionary sciences. Similarly, SETI for astronomy. Does this mean that those disciplines …	/r/MensRights	31/01/12 11:43 PM
3	Masculinity Studies offered as a course at Concordia University Now, given that human children are born developmentally premature and require constant care, more care than any other species on the planet, offspring have a much higher likelyhood of surviving if both parents participated in raising children. Merely having tons of babies that all die isn't advantageous. True, but a better investment of time for a male (especially super stud alpha) is usually pursue more females and stick the old lays with any resulting kids. The females are invested genetically…	/r/MensRights	31/01/12 10:23 PM
4	Feminist hypocrisy on honour killings Part of the solution is to stop the indoctrination of children into mindless multiculturalism and moral relativism. Kids come out of school these days thinking that the most important thing they know about their rights is when it's appropriate to put them on hold (and deny them to others) lest they offend someone. When I went to school, multiculturalism was taught to us as though it was the opposite of racism. You're either multiculturalist or racist! What's a young woman whose father won't let …	/r/MensRights	31/01/12 06:51 PM
7	Feminist hypocrisy on honour killings While feminists have largely given-up trying to convince us that honour killings are not substantively different from intimate-partner violence, they have not gone the extra mile to advocate for women who may not be in danger of being killed, but are nevertheless trapped within a cultural paradigm that denies them moral equality with men. Such a step is difficult for ideological feminists to take, because they are also great champions of multiculturalism. Bingo. This is exactly why the governmen…	/r/MensRights	31/01/12 04:17 PM
5	(Xpost from TIL) Storytime...A Ship Tradition: Women And Children First. An explanation of how the tradition of Women and children first started. So should a female bodybuilder give up her seat for me? I'm weaker! Is society better off if all the strong people drown and the weak people live? Do not accept your disposability socialization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA	/r/MensRights	24/01/12 09:11 PM
7	(Xpost from TIL) Storytime...A Ship Tradition: Women And Children First. An explanation of how the tradition of Women and children first started. Women are weaker people? Sexist!	/r/MensRights	24/01/12 08:40 PM
21	Falsely Accused and Suspended from College without Evidence, Based Solely on the Accuser's word FIRE has gone to bat for people in situations similar to yours. You might want to check them out. http://thefire.org/ http://thefire.org/cases/dueprocess/	/r/MensRights	12/01/12 05:25 PM
4	BBC News - Do politicians ignore the 'men's vote'? I wonder why, if feminism considers the government a "male dominated, patriarchal" organization, is feminism almost always allied with political parties and ideologies that seek to expand the scope and power of government. Can you imagine a politician asked during a campaign about his platform's plan for women and NOT giving a prepared, reasoned response? Can you imagine him asked about a plan for men and NOT reacting with confused laughter? My local government has a ministry for women, but not …	/r/MensRights	07/01/12 11:36 PM
1	Jezebel: What Should You Do When Someone You Love Becomes a Men’s Rights Activist? They do not want to be prosecuted for any sexual crime against women or girls ever. This is a lot like saying that ACLU members do not want to be prosecuted for any acts of terrorism ever.	/r/MensRights	07/01/12 03:11 PM
2	SRS Mod in takeover bid for r/athiesm. My protest buried in downvotes. More red flairs for reddit. Do YOU want to see PEDO next to your username? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaA2eKABuEE	/r/MensRights	30/12/11 07:08 PM
14	Questions about the MRM, from a woman. Seems Liverotto's comments accrue large negative scores in r/mensrights as often as not. I wouldn't take him to be representative of this subreddit.	/r/MensRights	28/12/11 06:19 PM
19	UK Guardian and many Japanese elders angry that not all young Japanese men are eager to be one-dimensional grunt-laborers with a singular interest in sex If men are finding virtual sex more satisfying than actual sex... yes, that's a bit sad for what men have become. Really? Would you (or society) say the same thing about a woman who preferred her vibrator collection to real men? Or would she be seen as strong, independent and empowered?	/r/MensRights	28/12/11 06:09 PM
6	I've been internet dating a lot recently and I'm getting sick of being treated like a probable rapist/murderer. The odds are good but the goods are odd. You should always meet in a public place anyway. You don't want your "date" to turn out to be the Russian mafia intent on harvesting your kidneys.	/r/MensRights	27/12/11 03:23 PM
14	Imagine if Hugo Schwyzer had talked about blacks this way . . . . The best part was one of his next posts said that men need to tell women about their porn watching habits: http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/are-most-men-like-this-sex-lies-and-the-newsweek-study/ In summary, men need to be honest and upfront about porn. Women can have unprotected sex with other men and not tell their partners.	/r/MensRights	22/12/11 10:21 PM
11	Imagine if Hugo Schwyzer had talked about blacks this way . . . . You're right, prejudice is a nuanced, complicated issue. If you're prejudiced against a liberal victim group, then that's bad, but if the group isn't a victim group, then that's actually a-ok! In fact, in that case your prejudice may actually be a service to society! Also, prejudice is fine when I'm doing it, and bad when you're doing it.	/r/MensRights	22/12/11 09:48 PM
16	Imagine if Hugo Schwyzer had talked about blacks this way . . . . This is not a strawman, it's a direct rephrasing with substituted groups. If it's not acceptable to say something about whites/blacks, why is it acceptable to say the same thing about men/women?	/r/MensRights	22/12/11 09:07 PM
8	well its official boys now have less worth than animals , to avoid hurting animals a research facility is using donated foreskins instead ( i dont know how a baby can donate part of its body but eh .. ) Not justify tyranny. Without hospitals willing to transplant dissident livers into alcoholic government officials there would be less motivation to murder people.	/r/MensRights	21/12/11 03:29 PM
5	well its official boys now have less worth than animals , to avoid hurting animals a research facility is using donated foreskins instead ( i dont know how a baby can donate part of its body but eh .. ) By this logic, a hospital transplanting organs harvested from executed political prisoners in China isn't doing anything wrong.	/r/MensRights	21/12/11 03:02 PM
7	Hehe.. there's been a marriage strike for how long? And last but not least, the alimony racketeers have unquestionably slain the goose that laid the golden egg. They have put the fear of marriage in men's souls, for no man can tell with certainty how his marriage will turn out, nor what a wife will do to him in case she should lose her taste for him and want to get rid of him. As matters stand, now, it is the man who pays and pays and pays if his marriage goes on the rocks, no matter even if it was his wife who scuttled the ship, and the fear of …	/r/MensRights	20/12/11 09:40 PM
25	If your post is getting downvoted on r/mensrights, it's probably because of the feminist downvote brigade in r/shitredditsays. They complain that we trespass in their "safe space," all the while mindlessly downvoting every legitimate point that we make. You forgot able bodied.	/r/MensRights	14/12/11 09:25 PM
7	Feminist revisionism falls flat on its face again... Lowe said the wartime photo was certainly not taken on Dec. 7, 1941, the day the Imperial Japanese Navy shocked the United States into joining World War II. On that Sunday morning she was headed to church when the bombing started, and she went ahead anyway because she wasn't sure what else to do. A hero indeed.	/r/MensRights	12/12/11 09:14 PM
1	Would Mandatory Paternity Tests Protect Children? Or maybe they'd just be more careful with protection when cheating on their partners? Anyway, that only seems like a negative if you're pro-life. Getting pregnant by someone you're not in a stable relationship with is as good a reason as any to get an abortion.	/r/MensRights	12/12/11 05:05 PM
60	I decided to live off campus in order to avoid some mandatory seminars about rape and other things irrelevant to my degree, though not without a hitch and now I'm being harassed by feminists because of it. What the fuck is this? So.. how did 5 random women find out that you talked to the dean? I think you're leaving out some important information.	/r/MensRights	12/12/11 03:33 PM
5	Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant. What? As long as all of these changes have been voluntary, everything is fine. I mean, given the situation described, I doubt the guy would feel exploited or abused. Rational adults are capable of remaining friendly and making mutually beneficial arrangements without government intervention.	/r/MensRights	08/12/11 10:31 PM
4	girlwriteswhat on Legal Paternal Surrender The courts recognize it isn't completely fair Courts have nothing to do with fairness or morality. They interpret law and enforce precedent etc. I'd still like to know by what you mean that courts have "recognized" unfairness. it's best for everyone that children are cared for, and thus both parents are legally (financially) responsible for their children Then the following have to be illegal, because they result in parents not being legally responsible for their children: abortion, adoption, sa…	/r/MensRights	07/12/11 03:15 PM
23	Male child overheard calling female teacher cute, gets suspended for sexual harassment However, if this sort of behavior went on in my workplace, the offender would most likely be fired or suspended So how many 9 year olds have run into the iron fist of your HR department? Is he a well behaved kid? No. Does this incident warrant a suspension? No! Especially not one due to "sexual harassment". He's not even of an age to understand what that means, and using a phrase like "sexual harassment" is going to make him ashamed of his sexuality and confuse the hell out of him. There's nothi…	/r/MensRights	05/12/11 10:20 PM
8	Women who abuse child support are fucking scum!! [story] Of course it never happened. The OP already admitted it's at least not completely the truth here For some reason the first guys pointing out how ridiculous it is got downvoted. This is a worthless thread full of every kind of troll and needs deleting/closing.	/r/MensRights	25/11/11 06:02 PM
8	The MRM is Apolitical I think you mean "nonpartisan"? I mean, the MRM does seek political influence, so it's hardly apolitical.	/r/MensRights	22/11/11 09:26 PM
36	THIS is why, if a guy asks a woman to have an abortion and she refuses, he should not be financially responsible. If a woman has the 'right' to abort, why can't a father 'abort'? While I agree that the father needs the right to opt-out of parenthood, I think it's important to recognize that the moral justification comes more out of adoption/abandonment options that may exist than from abortion options. It's a woman's choice as to what happens with her body wrt abortion/giving birth. It shouldn't be her choice what happens with a man's life for 18 years after that.	/r/MensRights	22/11/11 04:07 PM
1	25% of American women take medication for a mental disorder When they break it down by states the highest usage is 23% yet somehow the national average is 26%. The region breakdown seems to be percentage of all people, not just women.	/r/MensRights	17/11/11 08:58 PM
3	It Is Never OK to Trick a Man Into Fatherhood redditor for 5 hours stop feeding the troll, kthx	/r/MensRights	15/11/11 07:01 PM
25	Columnist thinks we should stop Movember fundraising because men are "privileged" why did he need to justify it be asserting that black men are also, indeed moreso, impacted? Yeah, this is like saying "hay guys the holocaust is wrong because it's not just Jews who are dying, it's also BLACK Jews". impact either another race or another gender More generally, members of an accepted liberal victim group. LGBT, poor, disabled etc would probably all fit the requirement too.	/r/MensRights	09/11/11 10:08 PM
2	Rape Myths And Facts according to Roger Williams University In the paper they cite for that stat, I can't find any meaningful hits for "33" "escape" or "detect"/"detection". I skimmed it and couldn't find anything that could be taken to mean that. I don't have time to read it right now. http://coursesite.uhcl.edu/hsh/hall/Courses/Advanced%20Social%20PSYC/Malamuth_1986.pdf	/r/MensRights	07/11/11 01:39 PM
4	New Global Gender Gap Report is out. Still bullshit. Hence, the Index rewards countries that reach the point where outcomes for women equal those for men, but it neither rewards nor penalizes cases in which women are outperforming men in particular variables. This is obviously false from reading their rankings. If it was true, the female-male ratio columns would only sort downwards from 1.0 down, and other factors would take over after equality is achieved. In truth, the ratio column is the only one that matters, all the way up and down their rank…	/r/MensRights	03/11/11 03:20 PM
3	Should ladies nights really be illegal? Very interesting. Was there anything published about this?	/r/MensRights	02/11/11 05:34 PM
1	Have you ever been groped by a women without giving her permission? Trust me, I have been felt up/grabbed against my will by plenty of strangers and none of them have gotten arrested. As a woman, it usually just makes you shrink into yourself and want to get away. Ok, you really think there's no double standard? Let's have an experiment and have an average looking guy walking around a park grabbing women and see how long it takes before the police are called, repeat the experiment with an average looking woman. We both know that the woman will go on indefinitely…	/r/MensRights	26/10/11 11:18 PM
4	Have you ever been groped by a women without giving her permission? I mean it's good that you didn't feel violated about the experience, but it's pretty much up to the target to decide whether it's affected him negatively or not. You have to admit there's a huge double standard. It's not like I could go around grabbing women's asses and not get arrested. I was out once in a park with my parents and had my ass grabbed. I had no interest in pursuing the girl, and I felt pretty angry and violated. So now will you tell me to 'man up'? Technically it was sexual assau…	/r/MensRights	25/10/11 06:20 PM
18	How would society change if men had complete control over whether or not sperm is injected in their seminal fluid during ejaculation? then sexual freedom would ensure. To clarify, sexual freedom for men would ensue, as women arguably already have sexual freedom. Interestingly, access to abortions is now generally believed to be the most important factor in the massive decline in crime in the 80s and 90s. Perhaps there would be a similar crime improvement if men gained reproductive control, as there would be fewer single moms raising kids on child support when the man doesn't want to be a father.	/r/MensRights	16/10/11 02:54 PM
1	How would society change if men had complete control over whether or not sperm is injected in their seminal fluid during ejaculation? Paternity fraud would be greatly reduced. It would be just too risky to try to pass off someone else's kid as that of the stable, hard working 'chump' if that 'chump' may be sure he couldn't possibly have fathered a child.	/r/MensRights	16/10/11 02:42 PM
8	The phrase 'Men can stop rape' is a feminist mind game. Don't fall for it. Compare: It's up to Muslims to stop terrorism. How ridiculously offensive is this expression? 99.99% of Muslims are not terrorists. And 99.99% of men are not rapists.	/r/MensRights	07/10/11 04:25 PM
2	Landlords face no punishment for discrimination in online ads I see female only housing ads in Toronto all the time. I've contacted craigslist about it, since it violates their policy. I've never received a response. I usually fire a "friendly FYI" message to the person advertising to tell them it's illegal, but rarely get a reply.	/r/MensRights	06/10/11 07:09 PM
2	Correction: The "Creep" Label Is Relevant To MR BC It Often Involves Police. Never seen or read about men being charged for harassment just over "her word" or her sexist definition "creep"? Please, these things happen far too often for anyone not to notice. Then it should be pretty easy to find an example. Yet you haven't provided any.	/r/MensRights	09/09/11 07:20 PM
4	Correction: The "Creep" Label Is Relevant To MR BC It Often Involves Police. become socially ostracized So ugly women aren't socially ostracized..? No woman would ever become socially ostracized, suffer physical assault or get even arrested because some dude decided to label her as unattractive or because she expressed a sexual interest of any kind towards him So, what are some examples of when this has happened to a man? Even in elevatorgate nobody was suggesting the guy should have been hurt or charged.	/r/MensRights	09/09/11 06:57 PM
1	Correction: The "Creep" Label Is Relevant To MR BC It Often Involves Police. Successful because I see no upmodded counters to correct the upmodded feminist viewpoint. I am going to assume you are talking about the thread I commented in. I am decidedly not a feminist. I was near the top 10 in one of AMR's stalking lists. Not everybody who disagrees with you is a feminist. This is simply not a gender issue because women are also treated badly if they are unattractive.	/r/MensRights	09/09/11 06:57 PM
1	The difference between cute and creepy. [xpost /r/funny] You misunderstand me. I know that the "unattractive MRA" stereotype is BS. I'm saying that when silly comics like this manage to be upvoted, it does nothing to disprove the stereotype. Anyway, this comic has nothing to do with men's rights.	/r/MensRights	09/09/11 02:03 PM
30	The difference between cute and creepy. [xpost /r/funny] This one in particular also seems to affirm the belief that those interested in the MRM are angry with women because they are pathetic, unattractive, unsuccessful with women. This reddit needs less imgur and more discussion.	/r/MensRights	08/09/11 05:57 PM
4	Another /r/mensrights user is "disappeared." As I posted in that thread, I think this is a pretty terrible banning. He wasn't calling anybody a pedophile. He was just saying that if being banned from subreddit X makes somebody a troll, being banned from '/r/nopedos' would make somebody a pedophile. He pointed out a flaw in someone's argument using an analogy. I mean, the guy (I have my doubts about his claimed gender) is pretty insane but at least his arguments were honest.	/r/MensRights	25/08/11 03:55 PM
2	I'm a male who was raised by an ardent feminist, and now I'm suffering for it. He wasn't calling anybody a pedophile. He was just saying that if being banned from subreddit X makes somebody a troll, being banned from '/r/nopedos' would make somebody a pedophile. This is a pretty disgraceful banning. He was just pointing out a flaw in someone's argument using an analogy. I mean, the guy (I have my doubts about his claimed gender) is pretty insane but at least his arguments were honest.	/r/MensRights	25/08/11 03:52 PM
5	I am tired of people telling me that I can't be a good progressive/liberal because I choose to stand up against misandry. As for why the past matters, well, I'm not particularly sure how we're supposed to understand the present state of our society and world without also understanding how we got there. Gender roles were more significant in the past. You might look at the fact that even in the recent past, girls were sent into home economics while boys "got" to do shop. How oppressed those girls were, eh? Except there's nothing empowering about shop. Actually, it represents vocational training for shitty manual labo…	/r/MensRights	22/08/11 03:45 PM
10	I'm being falsely accused of rape, what should I do? From his post they were "making out" and engaging in "foreplay". This is not a girl who is passed out. They are both drunk, and both know what they're doing. Harassing a "rape survivor" in a feminist reddit would be completely bannable, and I fail to see how your inane horseshit ramblings against a "false rape survivor" should be treated any differently here.	/r/MensRights	20/08/11 05:32 PM
8	Dutch women figured it out: happiness vs feminism Wrong. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stupid	/r/MensRights	20/08/11 05:00 PM
4	Have Boys Become the Second Sex? -- New York Magazine I was in a "gifted" class from grade 3. At age 7, they tested us for language, logic, math, puzzle solving, etc. Our class was about 75% male. They made a particular effort to inform us that this was not because boys were smarter than girls. It was because, although equal numbers of boys and girls passed, boys were far more likely to accept an invitation than girls, who were more likely to not want to leave their friends behind at their old school. This makes me wonder a few things: In the 60% f…	/r/MensRights	20/08/11 03:18 PM
3	Warren Farrell to speak at Montclair State University about "mens issues" (boy crisis, selective service, fathers rights, mens health) Anybody who might have missed his excellent Myth of Male Power youtube interview series should definitely check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtGwBsKgKs edit: You might want to skip to 3:00 to skip the ridiculously long intro.	/r/MensRights	18/08/11 09:49 PM
4	An open letter to the Manginas of the internet Nice work. Poe's law in action.	/r/MensRights	08/08/11 07:26 PM
2	An open letter to the Manginas of the internet [Trigger warning: Hetero-normative assumptions made for the remainder of this letter.] Gag... We need our own trigger warnings. [Trigger warning: use of the word patriarchy in a non ironic context] [Trigger warning: worthless navel gazing drivel]	/r/MensRights	08/08/11 05:20 PM
1	Feds Order Insurers To Cover Birth Control Free Of Charge To Women then I'm all for that new technology being free as well. This pretty much summarizes the flaw in your reasoning. Nothing is free. What is under discussion is who should pay for one's choices. You have shown that you believe that others should have to pay for your choices. We will have to agree to disagree at this point.	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 07:42 PM
1	Feds Order Insurers To Cover Birth Control Free Of Charge To Women don't agree that its a recreational drug. It's widely used to regulate periods for teenage girls when their periods are so painful they can barely walk. I don't have a problem if it's medically necessary. It's also used to prevent pregnancies which is just as good for a sexually active teenage guy as it is for a sexually active teenage girl. Then split the cost between the boy and the girl. Don't expect somebody else to finance it. Again, justify why a homosexual or asexual should be taxed to pa…	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 07:05 PM
1	Feds Order Insurers To Cover Birth Control Free Of Charge To Women You're right. There is no way that a person who chooses to engage in sexual activity could finance their own lifestyle choices. It's either I pay for it, or they don't have it. It's a recreational drug. What about everybody who doesn't have heterosexual sex? Can computer nerds tax you to pay for their WoW subscriptions? Can lesbians tax you for their dildos? What is it that makes certain people's lifestyle choices more important and worthy of being financed at other's expense?	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 06:35 PM
1	Feds Order Insurers To Cover Birth Control Free Of Charge To Women Nobody should be denied it. They just should not be entitled to my money to pay for it.	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 06:23 PM
1	Why the Gender Gap Won't Go Away People seem to be concluding that, because the pay gap is not entirely due to "discrimination" In fact there is no evidence that it is due AT ALL to discrimination. The remaining 5% gap can easily be explained by women not being as aggressive in salary negotiations and asking for raises. The HR field is dominated by women, so we would have probably heard by now about any practices of paying one price to men and a lower price to women. MuForceShoelace is explaining why this "inequality of outcome…	/r/MensRights	05/08/11 01:40 AM
3	Why the Gender Gap Won't Go Away Could it possibly be because traditional gender roles and societal pressure dictates that women should stay home with children, work less, spend time at home, etc. It's possible. But gender is only partially a social construct and we both know that more women will always make choices biased towards raising children. The real point is that bad statistics like this are used as a justification for more government intervention. eg minimum female representation in certain layers of management etc, wh…	/r/MensRights	04/08/11 11:20 PM
11	Why the Gender Gap Won't Go Away Why can't men realize that it is unfair that a woman should be paid less just because she stayed home to have children instead of getting an education and building a career? So companies should be forced to pay a less experienced woman on par with a more experienced man? That sounds suspiciously like discrimination. In my field, +5 years of experience can easily give you a 100% increase in salary, for good reason. It should be obvious that girls are being tremendously shortchanged by the educati…	/r/MensRights	04/08/11 06:35 PM
4	Feds Order Insurers To Cover Birth Control Free Of Charge To Women Is there anything else to be upset about here? Spending money on unnecessary drugs when some important treatments are not funded, driving up insurance costs for everyone. The idea that someone else should be responsible for paying for a drug that may not benefit them (gays and asexuals get no utility from birth control subsidies for example).	/r/MensRights	03/08/11 12:55 AM
3	Feds Order Insurers To Cover Birth Control Free Of Charge To Women When I was in university, our health plan covered birth control completely. A medically necessary drug I needed (non gender specific) was not covered, costing me $80 a month. I was pretty pissed that my fees were being spent on what's basically a recreational drug used by some subset of students. My gf at the time couldn't use the pill because of side effects, so it didn't help us at all. But we still paid for others to use it, and I paid for my own prescription out of pocket.	/r/MensRights	02/08/11 11:50 PM
5	Man Can Keep Up Billboard Condemning Girlfriend’s Abortion Her image isn't on the billboard. Look at it this way. My girlfriend got an abortion. Can I tell my parents? Can I tell my friends? Where do you draw the line?	/r/MensRights	30/07/11 02:53 PM
4	Man Can Keep Up Billboard Condemning Girlfriend’s Abortion He's not forcing her to go through with anything. I agree that it's a dick thing to do, but it's still protected free speech.	/r/MensRights	30/07/11 02:26 PM
5	A rise in the proportion of work-related accidents for women is, apparently, a bad thing. Women workers were most likely to experience back strain, bruising, and tendinitis on the job, while men were at greater risk of suffering a dislocation or fracture, hearing loss or cut. Uh, great. So the serious injuries are suffered by men while women report having "back strain". Most likely the injury stats would be even more skewed if men actually complained about being "bruised". The report found that women are also more likely than men to be attacked or physically harmed by another person …	/r/MensRights	29/07/11 03:24 AM
2	Paternity tests prove hundreds of men duped 23andMe has been able to give you pretty detailed disease risk information from your DNA for some time, and that only costs $100 now (+ $120 subscription commitments). https://www.23andme.com/	/r/MensRights	26/07/11 08:01 PM
1	If women really do earn less than men for no other reason than being a woman, then why don't companies only hire women? discriminating based on that trait (in either hiring decision, salary offer, or further pre-hire interviews) is valuable. The point is that it is not more valuable than simply choosing based on the attribute you're looking for. You're acting like there's going to be a stack of resumes of applicants for a job, and 50% are going to be women. I would like to see a citation for that.. I just don't believe that a given female applicant for a job is less likely to be qualified than a given male applic…	/r/MensRights	21/07/11 12:07 PM
2	If women really do earn less than men for no other reason than being a woman, then why don't companies only hire women? To discriminators, discriminating gives them value and can be worth the cost. Interesting assertion. What is this value? If you believe that businesses are systematically turning down more qualified employees, you must also believe that someone is turning down free money they could earn by hiring these rejected employees and setting up a more efficient competing business. This contention against the theory fails to consider other factors. Discrimination was strong in the past, but other factors …	/r/MensRights	21/07/11 02:44 AM
7	I'm an owner of a former private company in Norway and incurred extra expenses due to the gender quota laws Except the market is now flooded with men who were also let go to make room for women. And other companies are still in the process of doing the same. These companies are only interested in hiring women, and not interested at all in men. The fired men can't even get together with each other to form new companies, since there aren't enough qualified unemployed women available to partner with to make a "fair" ratio.	/r/MensRights	20/07/11 07:05 PM
25	funny? more like wtf. Kind of like in the ABC piece on the couple fighting in the park. When the woman was hitting the man, a woman walked by, smiled and pumped her first. She later said "good for her!", and "I'm usually too nice, I should do what she did sometimes". Can you imagine if a man pumped his fist when he walked by the man hitting his girlfriend? And later told the interviewer that he should act like that more? LOL. Link if you missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks	/r/MensRights	10/07/11 02:32 PM
2	Randall Munroe (XKCD) on requiring gender to be shown in a public Google+ profile He is actually engaged. http://blog.xkcd.com/2011/06/30/family-illness/	/r/MensRights	09/07/11 03:09 PM
38	Men Make Less When Their Bosses Are Women This subreddit is so full of shit, it's unreal. So full of shit, in fact, that a comment exposing a title as misleading is upvoted to the top. Somewhat more than you can say about certain other subreddits...	/r/MensRights	06/07/11 06:32 PM
0	It is Groundhog Day in our Feminist Society. Another innocent man's reputation destroyed by false rape accusations: Prosecution case against Strauss-Kahn "near collapse" Yes it should.. If she accused him of something and ruined his life then later much of it turns out to be false SHE SHOULD BE IN JAIL. Honesty in the court is very important which is why outside of rape and family court perjury is punished so harshly. "Not guilty" doesn't mean that the accusation was false. It means that there is just not enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the crime. In a "he said she said" case, a guilty person could be found not …	/r/MensRights	01/07/11 03:22 PM
4	It is Groundhog Day in our Feminist Society. Another innocent man's reputation destroyed by false rape accusations: Prosecution case against Strauss-Kahn "near collapse" It's not clear from the paragraph that that's the case, since it's been taken out of context. The comment of the blogger "I wonder what the rape exam showed about evidence of genital mutilation." implies that he thought it was a detail relevant to the incident in question. Anyway, if no details have emerged to the public about inconsistencies with her story about the incident, it doesn't mean there weren't any. I don't think we disagree. If there is evidence that she lied, she should be prosecut…	/r/MensRights	01/07/11 03:17 PM
5	It is Groundhog Day in our Feminist Society. Another innocent man's reputation destroyed by false rape accusations: Prosecution case against Strauss-Kahn "near collapse" From your own source. she told investigators that her application for asylum included mention of a previous rape, but there was no such account in the application. She also told them that she had been subjected to genital mutilation, but her account to the investigators differed from what was contained in the asylum application. Sounds like some inconsistencies relevant to the incident.	/r/MensRights	01/07/11 03:12 PM
3	It is Groundhog Day in our Feminist Society. Another innocent man's reputation destroyed by false rape accusations: Prosecution case against Strauss-Kahn "near collapse" I repeat, she did not change her story about what happened between her and Strauss-Kahn. Source please. I find it impossible to believe that prosecutors could consider a case "near collapse", and would negotiate to drop charges, as the article states, if only background details were inconsistent. After all, it specifically says that prosecutors "no longer believed her account of the circumstances of the sexual encounter". Edit: But again, obviously, if it's true that her story is consistent but …	/r/MensRights	01/07/11 03:06 PM
12	It is Groundhog Day in our Feminist Society. Another innocent man's reputation destroyed by false rape accusations: Prosecution case against Strauss-Kahn "near collapse" she didn't lie about anything that happened to her and Strauss-Kahn How do you know? The alleged crime has not been proven in court, and it seems it will never be.	/r/MensRights	01/07/11 02:59 PM
7	It is Groundhog Day in our Feminist Society. Another innocent man's reputation destroyed by false rape accusations: Prosecution case against Strauss-Kahn "near collapse" Strauss-Kahn case 'near collapse' The New York Times quoted a source close to the investigation as saying the housekeeper had lied repeatedly and prosecutors no longer believed her account of the circumstances of the sexual encounter or of her own background. The New York Times reported that prosecutors met with Mr Strauss-Kahn's lawyers yesterday and the parties were discussing whether to dismiss the felony charges If her story is inconsistent or changing, it implies that she lied. And if even …	/r/MensRights	01/07/11 02:57 PM
29	Houston Man Forced To Pay 50k In Child Support For Child That DNA Proves Isn’t His If agency and even genetics are excluded from the justifications for requiring this man to pay, why should we stick him with the bill instead of any other person? How has he "stepped up to the role of father"? He is simply the victim of fraud. Any behavior he engaged in was elicited under false pretenses. This is like saying that if I steal your credit card by fraudulent means, use it a few times before you catch on, that you have "stepped up to the role of purchaser", and I have the right to co…	/r/MensRights	01/07/11 02:31 AM
-1	This guy lies while trying to do a good deed. $500 fine. Woman lies about rape and ruins a mans life, nothing is done. There was video evidence in the false rape case, too. In combination with other evidence, it proved that he couldn't have been at the crime scene when the 'assault' occurred.	/r/MensRights	30/06/11 09:00 PM
13	This guy lies while trying to do a good deed. $500 fine. Woman lies about rape and ruins a mans life, nothing is done. They aren't so different. Two people filed false reports to the police. One was a harmless lie, told in the process of an extraordinarily altruistic and honest act. The man in question was sorry but was fined $500. The other was deliberate lie told for the purpose of destroying a man's life and permanently separating him from his child. The woman was completely unrepentant and the justice system won't touch her.	/r/MensRights	30/06/11 02:08 PM
5	No 'him' or 'her'; preschool fights gender bias "The kind of things that boys like to do — run around and turn sticks into swords — will soon be disapproved of" Gender roles hurt everybody, though. What about the boys who don't want to play with swords? We don't all have to be fighters. A girl who wants to join the boys playing with swords is much more accepted than a boy who wants to join the girls playing with dolls.	/r/MensRights	26/06/11 08:56 PM
6	Don't Get Married, Exhibit #2,762: John Cleese Gets Fucked by the Long Strap-On of the Divorce Courts. Why would an ex-wife get more then half of his money? Edit: oh god I missed this. That's because morality is so subjective that it is impossible to fairly apply, and at times can produce irrational results. But social order is not subjective in the general sense. Social order is, from a legal standpoint, a logically sound principle upon which to govern, most particularly in the civil side of the law in western nations. Morality is hard, let's go shopping! Or more like, let's give money to the divorce lawyers so they can go shopping. As long as you …	/r/MensRights	22/06/11 02:45 AM
10	Don't Get Married, Exhibit #2,762: John Cleese Gets Fucked by the Long Strap-On of the Divorce Courts. Why would an ex-wife get more then half of his money? I don't agree it's morally wrong to award a wealthy person more wealth then they perhaps earned, for the reasons I already discussed at length. The only reasons you have discussed are details that might be of interest to a court making a judgment on such a case. You still do not understand the difference between ought and is. Hypothetically let's say Alyce Faye Eichelberger's lawyer says "We were aiming at 5 million pounds, but aha, he was hiding some assets, so we should get 8 million pounds!" …	/r/MensRights	22/06/11 01:12 AM
10	Don't Get Married, Exhibit #2,762: John Cleese Gets Fucked by the Long Strap-On of the Divorce Courts. Why would an ex-wife get more then half of his money? Thanks. So your "should" and "fair" mean "expected in the current legal system". As a member of the legal profession might not realize, most people will be using those words to mean "morally right" in a discussion like this. And believe me, it's not morally right to award an already perfect wealthy, self sufficient individual a majority of one's wealth. I still feel you're confusing the two senses of using those words, so I'll refer you to this important page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%…	/r/MensRights	22/06/11 12:27 AM
13	Don't Get Married, Exhibit #2,762: John Cleese Gets Fucked by the Long Strap-On of the Divorce Courts. Why would an ex-wife get more then half of his money? And I think most fair would have been 70% split in his favor. I don't think it should be any different in the reverse, as may have been the case here. Are you using "should" to mean a "morally correct from a common sense point of view", or "expected in the current state of the legal system"? Do you understand the difference? It's not obvious in your reasoning. It means he and his attorney felt the result would probably have been even worse had they let a judge or jury decide. Oh so, he had a gun…	/r/MensRights	22/06/11 12:07 AM
1	What, exactly, do the men of r/mensrights want out of romantic relationships with women? Can you point to the part where I stated, or even implied this? You dismissed the entire "nightmare scenario" on the basis that the man could have used a condom. You are espousing the common ignorant view that the existence of birth control obviates the need for male reproductive rights. I'm saying that biological imperatives make this the case. Good luck gestating your own foetus so that you can exercise your extended rights. Let's talk about that scenario again. You believe that all of these c…	/r/MensRights	21/06/11 01:08 AM
1	What, exactly, do the men of r/mensrights want out of romantic relationships with women? Nice strawman. Ok, men don't need reproductive rights. This is by best honest summary of your position. Please feel free to correct me. our rights end as soon as you ejaculate, so either don't do it near women Legally speaking, this is absolutely true. But, unless you believe that this is morally right, and the best our modern western society can do for men's rights, you are confusing law and morality. You are committing an is-ought fallacy.	/r/MensRights	20/06/11 10:18 PM
7	What, exactly, do the men of r/mensrights want out of romantic relationships with women? Ok, I'm getting sick of reading "herp derp condoms exist so men don't need rights". A couple using condoms as their sole method of birth control has a 2% chance of conceiving per year. Given that you can't be sure if the woman is in fact on birth control, is 1/50 per year an acceptable risk? Given all the unfair consequences in the scenario you responded to? Also, do women only have reproductive rights if it's determined that they have been conscientious with birth control?	/r/MensRights	20/06/11 02:41 PM
6	Man files lawsuit after paying more than women for manicure Hands are the same. A blouse is not the same as a shirt. The dry cleaning criterion is not the gender of the client, it's the item being serviced. A man taking in the puffy shirt from Seinfeld would pay the blouse price. As to why the prices are different, you'd have to ask. Perhaps the standard of care is different with shirts that are just going to be pressed flat anyway.	/r/MensRights	17/06/11 05:26 PM
4	Man files lawsuit after paying more than women for manicure This analogy would work only if a man received a better price for cleaning the same clothing article. I think the issue is that a price was listed for a service, and that price changed because of the gender of the client.	/r/MensRights	17/06/11 04:13 PM
4	Barbara Kay: Stop denying fathers their rights The r/canada thread is here: http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/i0aad/stop_denying_fathers_their_rights/	/r/MensRights	15/06/11 09:35 PM
3	"This would be great for fathers, and it certainly is unfair that women do this to them, but my concern would be what happens to the children?" It's pretty simple. We say "stop accepting this money you're obtaining under fraudulent pretenses. if you cannot afford the child on your own, go after the guy who's responsible."	/r/MensRights	13/06/11 10:58 PM
3	Why Women Don't Get Caught Up in Sex Scandals You're right, neither case should have been in the paper. The issue is, when a woman did it, the media was all "aw, isn't that funny!". When a man did it, the media was all "off with his head!"	/r/MensRights	12/06/11 11:54 PM
2	Why Women Don't Get Caught Up in Sex Scandals Negative. No party in either case was married.	/r/MensRights	12/06/11 09:28 PM
5	Why Women Don't Get Caught Up in Sex Scandals The media in Toronto illustrated the problem brilliantly a few years go. Former Conservative leadership candidate Belinda Stronach was tied to pro hockey player Tie Domi. It resulted in a light-hearted humorous blurb in the papers. A famous female politician having a fling with a pro sports star? Well, that's just a funny little tidbit for the sidebar. Adam Giambrone (Toronto politician) cheats on his girlfriend (nobody's married), and he's on the front page of newspapers for weeks, with everybo…	/r/MensRights	12/06/11 09:17 PM
4	Gender Reversal Rage [x-post from f7u12][has happened to me several times] I don't mind anything people say, since I don't have a right to not be offended, but I do mind being groped, since I do have a right to not be assaulted.	/r/MensRights	11/06/11 01:58 PM
5	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. All the arguments that you are making are identical to pro-life arguments. Even her name, sexconsequences, would be perfect for an anti-abortion troll.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 06:59 PM
4	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. I am not sure about reversibility. My info may be outdated. I just wonder why more people don't opt for a vasectomy Believe me, as I get older and the more I learn about how much of society views a man as a sperm bank and child support ATM, it's becoming a much more attractive option.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 05:30 PM
7	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. Responsibility comes from agency and choice. Have you heard "no taxation without representation"? Same principle. The woman decides that she will keep a baby despite the man not being ready or willing to be a father. Her choice, her agency, her responsibility. Period.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 05:15 PM
9	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. Vasectomies are not always reversible. In fact I have heard that if you state that you believe the operation is reversible, the surgeon will refuse to perform it. Should a 17 year old high school boy get surgically sterilized?	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 05:12 PM
6	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. So the "shit person" should receive a substantial reward from her victim? The fact that you would also support such an unjust action if the roles were reversed (and conveniently they couldn't be, because it's only the woman's choice) does not compensate for this. Two wrongs do not make a right.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 05:09 PM
4	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. Citation. There was that blog entry a while back from the british cop who estimated 8/10 reports of rape his department received were false.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 05:07 PM
3	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. I still feel like it could be the opposite- If it were a man raising a child alone, there is no question mensrights would be up in arms to get him the best child-support deal. Contrary to your assertion, most men do not consider themselves entitled to money of others when making autonomous decisions.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 05:00 PM
3	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. I take it you're anti-abortion then? I have considered taking up an anti-abortion stance in protest of women's and society's refusal to recognize male reproductive rights. But I don't think I will. If "but you can choose to have sex" obviates the need for men's reproductive rights why does it not also obviate the need for abortion?	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 04:58 PM
6	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. and then doesn't - that is a very shit person, who should go through karmic hell. But at the same time you believe the man should go through real hell - 18 years of crippling support payments.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 04:54 PM
6	You can't choose whether to keep the baby, but you can choose to have sex. I'll admit, I'm going on the very few reported cases, and personal common sense reasoning- not one woman I know would consider that. That sounds awfully familiar doesn't it? No women would lie about rape either, right? It's absolutely impossible to know how often this happens. Just a while ago there was that girl on reddit who got busted for doing it. The fact that society gives women a 50% off child price tag regardless of the will of the man encourages women to do it.	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 04:51 PM
1	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard a. It is morally correct to force a man to pay child support when his identical twin fathers a baby. b. It is morally wrong to force a man to pay for a baby when he has no control or agency in its creation. Choose one. Without wanting to spend much time researching it (thought if you do, I promise to respond) I believe that you are incorrect in that assertion. Given that all we've got right now is belief, perhaps we can move on. We have your belief and steadfast refusal to change an unjust situa…	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 03:38 PM
1	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard That's a decent point, so perhaps genetic code is not a good dividing line. Keep in mind that my position is not "child support is awesome, keep it exactly as it is". I agree we should change it, and make the financial obligation fall to society at large Great. So you've at least backed off the idea that a man should owe a girl who empties a used condom into her big checks for 18 years? And you agree that the 100,000 pound judgment against frozen sperm man was a travesty of justice? Or he must, …	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 12:13 PM
1	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard Another example to show why genetic code instead of agency is not a valid justification for a positive obligation: My identical twin has the exact same DNA code. This means that the actions of my identical twin can put "my" genetic code into a baby. Am I now responsible for child support by your logic? Edit: And to further elaborate on negative/positive: Why bother phrasing it as "the right to not engage in discrimination"? You could just say, "the right to not not (double negative) give the bla…	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 03:24 AM
1	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard But, all that is is an obligation not to engage in discrimination. See the problem? No, I do not see a problem at all. You create a category of rights "discrimination" which includes some positive rights, and some negative rights. Some forms of "not discriminating" are inactions, and some are actions. I did? Where? Where you said that the foster care system is insufficient so daddy has to pony up. The obligation is created upon a parent (intentionally a parent or unintentionally), which can be r…	/r/MensRights	09/06/11 12:35 AM
1	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard Do minorities have a right to not be discriminated against (a "negative" right), or a right to be employed without discrimination (a "positive" right). Almost any right can be expressed in either way. In your example, non discrimination in employment is a positive right because it obligates another party to take an action. IE even if the person is prejudiced, the government forces him to hire the guy he's prejudiced against. Non discrimination in terms of not being assaulted by a KKK member is a…	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 11:45 PM
1	Female teacher charged in "affair" with 15-year-old; Not rape or molestion, but an affair. Uh, if we want to actually start admitting that the genders are different, we're going to run into some morally awkward realizations. Like for example, girls mature earlier than boys. And, in my experience at least, girls are far, far more likely to harbor a crush on a male teacher than boys are to a female teacher. So that means that male teacher relations with girls are less serious on average, right?	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 02:32 AM
1	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard Perhaps, but unless you're willing do force her to do so, you're still going to have lots of situations where the woman refuses an abortion, but also refuses to put it up for adoption. Please understand the difference between negative and positive rights. An example of a negative right is the right to not be assaulted. An example of a positive right is the right to have lunch today. A negative right imposes no obligations on others. A positive right makes an obligation some party. If it's my rig…	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 02:19 AM
1	Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard If a child deserves financial support in its growth, who should pay? You'll say "well, it should be the woman, she wanted it"; but what if the woman can't? She should give the child up for adoption. She is not entitled to a 50% off child bargain at the expense of a man. Despite your repeated dodging of this point, we do not live in bizarro world where children are "screwed" (in your words). Hell, even orphans with no family end up cared for just fine in foster homes. I'm not sure where you're go…	/r/MensRights	08/06/11 12:15 AM
1	Apparently Paternity Fraud is illegal, that is if you are a man. The problem, as always, is that your focus is on whether the mother is making a decision. You believe that if the mother takes on the obligation of motherhood unilaterally, she should support the child unilaterally. If we ignore the rights of the child, I agree. But, given that many mothers make bad decisions, I find it morally reprehensible (and bad policy) to adversely affect the child because of that. So mom knows that the father is unready, unwilling to be a dad. She decides to carry the bab…	/r/MensRights	07/06/11 05:08 PM
25	Female teacher charged in "affair" with 15-year-old; Not rape or molestion, but an affair. Dorothy Dixon, 29, is charged with one count of child molestation, authorities said. But you're right, the headline could be more accurate.	/r/MensRights	07/06/11 03:06 PM
3	In Making Campuses Safe for Women, a Travesty of Justice for Men Right, but 24/100 is not 1/40 either, it's 1/4. Change all of his 100s to 1000s and the math is right. It's 1/40.	/r/MensRights	07/06/11 02:02 PM
-1	Apparently Paternity Fraud is illegal, that is if you are a man. Re: DSM. Thanks for taking the 5 minutes to skim Wikipedia for that. It truly demonstrates the breath of your knowledge. The DSM is junk science as Skeptic magazine wrote about a while back. You can find the article in PDF form here: http://www.psychiatry.freeuk.com/SorboroDSM.pdf . I used the term because it was the best I could think of to describe your inability to condemn what mentally healthy individuals would deem to be obviously morally reprehensible acts. So I understand you clearly: You…	/r/MensRights	07/06/11 03:39 AM
1	Apparently Paternity Fraud is illegal, that is if you are a man. The child (innocent in all cases from any wrongdoing) deserves the support of both. Period. So your position is that, even in the cause of deceptive 'self' impregnation, the father should be compelled not only to finance the upbringing of the resulting child, but also to participate? well, the woman is a bitch, so no child support Gag inducing strawman. So, the child (which has no say in the matter, mind you) will either be put up for adoption, or forced to be raised by only one parent? Why woul…	/r/MensRights	06/06/11 11:36 PM
1	Apparently Paternity Fraud is illegal, that is if you are a man. Not really. In that case, the reactor has no rights. The important part of the analogy is that the gift is not an expensive obligation. It's the choice of the giftee to turn it into one. The responsibility for the choice lies only with the person who made that choice. Take the woman out of the equation for a moment. If, through some miracle of happenstance, a child of yours magically appeared, do you believe your obligation would not exist simply because you did not want it? How is something tha…	/r/MensRights	06/06/11 09:33 PM
1	Apparently Paternity Fraud is illegal, that is if you are a man. A better analogy to the car gift would be a gift of parts and tools, which another person combined with parts and labor of their own to create, say, a fission reactor. That is, if the "giftee" could sue the "giftor" for a lifetime of expensive fuel for the built reactor. the only case I can recall of sperm misappropriation was It's impossible to know how often this happens. And just recently there was that case of the mom who tricked the clinic into handing over the guy's sperm. But, let's also …	/r/MensRights	06/06/11 09:13 PM
1	Apparently Paternity Fraud is illegal, that is if you are a man. So, since your complaint is about a lack of legal action taken against women engaged in "fraud" while men have legal action taken against them, the legal distinction would be dispositive of your point. Q.E.D He attempted to not give the child support he is required to pay under law. Many women succeed in forcing men to pay child support they should NOT have to pay under law (or raise the children as their own). If the current state of the law is that the former is illegal, and the latter is a-ok…	/r/MensRights	06/06/11 08:33 PM
3	I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My Children Yep, good point. Fortunately she's got a response to this objection: So are you ok with the fact that your children might not be well suited to being good long-term partners? That is an impossible question to answer. My children are much more likely to inherit their fathers looks rather than their personalities. Who’s to say they won’t be good long-term partners? The important thing is there is a good chance they will be attractive. That gives them the opportunity to produce lots of grandchildre…	/r/MensRights	06/06/11 12:08 AM
16	I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My Children I agree.. she should really read some Richard Dawkins, esp Selfish Gene. She's got her own interests and her genes' interests confused. Not to say that her course of action is necessarily significantly harmful to her own interests, but her line of thinking is that her purpose in life is to produce babies with optimum DNA, which is not true.	/r/MensRights	05/06/11 11:12 PM
23	Should a San Francisco measure to ban circumcision on males under 18 pass? Oh god, the comments: TOO MANY laws, already. I am sick of any part of the government regulating every single thing I do. First they made murder illegal. Then rape. Now cutting off part of my baby's penis?! I can't keep up with all of this!	/r/MensRights	05/06/11 03:55 AM
2	The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men Yep, as someone who gets physically sick and lightheaded during sex ed class, and even human biology in general, it's going to be difficult to get through this. Which sucks, because it's pretty important to keep up on this stuff.	/r/MensRights	01/06/11 12:25 AM
6	I ask /r/feminisms if it's wrong for men to want a post-conception choice of being a father. This is their answer. If this is true, I am truly and honestly surprised. Maybe the reddit/internet feminists are different. I do suspect you have a rather unrepresentative sample though... I personally HAVE had my head ripped off every time the subject has come up. I would really want to see a scientific poll on the subject, though. Do a google search for "financial abortion", and read the articles/posts that are written by women. I haven't found one yet that supports choice for the man.	/r/MensRights	25/05/11 04:59 PM
6	I ask /r/feminisms if it's wrong for men to want a post-conception choice of being a father. This is their answer. I encourage you to bring up the topic in conversation with some women in real life, feminist or not. I warn you to be prepared to have your head ripped off for suggesting that men should have a choice. Was the recent thread in /r/feminisms any indication to you of the current climate for discourse on the subject?	/r/MensRights	25/05/11 04:44 PM
6	I ask /r/feminisms if it's wrong for men to want a post-conception choice of being a father. This is their answer. Yes, I think this is a fair summary of his post. And he's right. Do you think most feminists are in favor of male reproductive rights? Don't get me wrong, this is a commendable quote and it gives me hope for the future. Just read any feminist discussion on the topic if your hopes are getting too high, though. To many women, male reproductive freedom == vasectomy.	/r/MensRights	25/05/11 03:55 PM
6	Woman says that even though females have a choice post-conception not to be a mother, because the choice to abort has consequences, men should not have an option post-conception not to be a father "if a woman makes a unilateral decision to bring pregnancy to term, and the biological father does not, and cannot, share in this decision, he should not be liable for 21 years of support...autonomous women making independent decisions about their lives should not expect men to finance their choice." -- Karen DeCrow, former president of NOW, according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_abortion#Criticism_of_child_support_policies) There is hope.	/r/MensRights	25/05/11 12:10 PM
11	Mother needs advice on how to raise a good man. Fast forward to my discovery of this subreddit. I consistently see that men whine about everything that they don't have. Title IX, strong social ties, family rights, role models etc. Basically, you all spend a lot of time crying about how you wish things were and how women have it better than you do. Why do you whine about everything? Did you suggest that the entirety of /r/MensRights should "man up"? You haven't been here long, have you?	/r/MensRights	22/05/11 07:26 PM
3	Thank you guys. You really give me hope. Has the reception you're getting here convinced you that you fit in well here? At this point you've accumulated -246 comment karma in a single day.	/r/MensRights	22/05/11 01:44 PM
3	Initiative to Ban Circumcision Comes to Santa Monica Are you aware of the problems with moral relativism? Is the content of the practice completely irrelevant? If it was the practice to leave newborns outside overnight to fend for themselves, in the belief that only the strong, worth should be allowed to become part of the clan, would that also be acceptable? In your example, are you actually calling forced fellatio of a minor a "socially and legally reasonable thing"?	/r/MensRights	22/05/11 12:45 AM
5	Initiative to Ban Circumcision Comes to Santa Monica What mother wants to admit that she allowed a doctor to harm her infant? What doctor wants to admit... And even this is leaving out one of the most difficult hurdles: The product of decades of the practice is an adult population consisting of many circumcised men. Many of these see any condemnation of the practice as a declaration that there is something wrong with their penis. This causes serious cognitive dissonance with the male ego. For many, it's easier to discard the idea that there is som…	/r/MensRights	22/05/11 12:05 AM
3	What's anti-male about feminism? (an asker in /r/Equality) This, 1000 times over. There is no reason for a downvote button on comments, or for the score to be displayed. It gives people the smug satisfaction of seeing arguments they disagree with "punished". It leads to a hivemind mentality and the censorship of arguments that go against the majority. We already have a "report" button, and that's what should be used for comments that don't contribute anything. I've stopped contributing to many subreddits that have been converted into circlejerks by a hi…	/r/MensRights	20/05/11 03:33 PM