InfinitePower Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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2	TRP's Anger is Directed Against a Chimerical Woman And in fact, all actions should be judged on the merits of their actual results, and not on the basis of whether "good" and "evil" things lead to "rewards" and "justice" respectively. A lone gunman fires randomly into a crowd with the intention of killing as many innocent people as possible, before ending his own life. Miraculously, the only people he kills were people who also had guns and were going to fire, independently of him. If he had not accidentally killed those people, many more people…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/15 12:50 PM
1	Feminists Freak Out Over Shirt! - YouTube You continually state that: Only a human being can objectify another human being. But looking at the Oxford English Dictionary definition of the word, we see no mention of objectification necessitating a human source: Objectify, v. 2, trans. To degrade or demote (a person, class of people, etc.) to the status of a mere object; to treat as an object; to reify. Also: to identify (a person) with a particular stereotype; to stereotype. By definition, objectification can occur to a class of people - …	/r/MensRights	16/11/14 11:45 AM
1	Feminists Freak Out Over Shirt! - YouTube A shirt is itself an object. It cannot objectify. "A billboard using women's bodies to sell beer/cars/anything is an object. It cannot objectify". Can you not see how this is ludicrous? Anything that portrays a sex in a way that robs them of agency - i.e., turns them into an object - objectifies that sex. The shirt did that. The shirt objectifies women. And your distinction between a female body and a woman is made as if people regularly conceive of their body as being apart from their sense of …	/r/MensRights	15/11/14 11:38 PM
1	Feminists Freak Out Over Shirt! - YouTube Please explain to me how you leapt from: You're worried about some hypothetical person being offended. to You're the one doing the objectifying. How about we work on a world where people are empowered to speak up if they are actually personally injured by someone else's behavior rather than one where we attack someone because we think some imaginary person somewhere might be offended? A lot of women have spoken up about it. They've got him to issue a public apology. These people aren't hypotheti…	/r/MensRights	15/11/14 12:30 PM
1	Feminists Freak Out Over Shirt! - YouTube It's not that the shirt itself is keeping anyone out of science, though I can imagine it would make women feel quite unwelcome. It's about the attitudes that the shirt represents. How respectful to female coworkers is that man likely to be if he thinks that a shirt covered in photos of sexually objectified women is appropriate attire for an appearance on national TV?	/r/MensRights	14/11/14 04:00 PM
9	Is there anything on TRP or the Manosphere/PUA sites in general which RPs on PPD do not condone? It's impossible for you to think about it objectively It's impossible for anyone to think about it objectively, and terpers insistence that they see the world "logically" and "objectively" is one of the most cringeworthily neckbeardish things about the whole movement, which is saying something. I took Archwinger's comment seriously because the post he replied to was asking a serious question and because, like I said, those sorts of ideas really aren't uncommon at all to TRP. I mean, there's some…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 09:39 PM
3	Is there anything on TRP or the Manosphere/PUA sites in general which RPs on PPD do not condone? You can't just backpedal and claim satire on something that had no trace of irony about it, especially considering that a lot of people on TRP don't even believe in marital rape.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 09:25 PM
6	Is there anything on TRP or the Manosphere/PUA sites in general which RPs on PPD do not condone? He's endorsed by the mods, so he's representative of at least a large portion of TRP's userbase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 08:51 PM
11	Is there anything on TRP or the Manosphere/PUA sites in general which RPs on PPD do not condone? These things happen in the wild all the time without issue. So does cannibalism, murder, and eating your own shit. I really hate to be the guy to bring up logical fallacies, but when you're using an Appeal to Nature to attempt to justify rape I feel it's necessary. Rape as a crime is not ill-conceived. Rape is one of the most traumatic, violent, hateful things you can do to another person, and I can't understand how that is "amoral". Immoral, even, is too weak a word. Reprehensible barely covers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 06:22 PM
24	Is there anything on TRP or the Manosphere/PUA sites in general which RPs on PPD do not condone? This man is an endorsed contributor to TRP. He is literally saying that beating/raping a woman is an "amoral" thing to do. TRPers claim that TRP is about self-improvement, and yet time and time again we see things like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/14 04:29 PM
0	How can I keep myself from being perpetually bitter and angry? "How can I keep myself from being perpetually bitter and angry?"	/r/MensRights	22/10/14 09:30 AM
1	Are you in the Album of Shame? I think you misunderstand. This is why I used the word hearing; to connote no actual experience with the thing you claim to know so much about. You do not know that "most women [manipulate] men [and] are biologically predisposed to do so", you only hear it from others, and it seems easy enough to believe, so you believe it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/14 01:48 PM
1	Are you in the Album of Shame? "[H]earing" being the key term here. And then allowing that viewpoint to rule your life so that you only recognise the times when it's confirmed. Classic confirmation bias.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/14 11:43 AM
1	Are you in the Album of Shame? TRP is unequivocally about teaching men to manipulate women (as in, even redpillers agree that that is what it is about), so it is unequivocally misogynistic. You may think that society is inherently misandric, but unlike with TRP, there is no "sidebar to society" to prove it, and as such the point can't be proved in the same way. TRP views society as misandric, but that is just a viewpoint, not objective fact in the same way that "TRP is misogynistic" is an objective fact, because it says as mu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/14 11:09 AM
2	Are you in the Album of Shame? TRP is an inherently misogynistic viewpoint. Its purpose is to teach men how to manipulate women for their own gain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/14 01:01 PM
3	Are you in the Album of Shame? That's a seriously false equivalence. Gay people are, yes, a minority, but I'd bet that a far larger percentage of people differ from the "everyone is selfish and manipulative" idea that you seem to have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/14 11:40 AM
3	Are you in the Album of Shame? So now you're disagreeing with the idea that there are different types of people? That yes, some people will be manipulative and selfish, whereas others will be kind and caring and generous?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/14 11:33 AM
5	Are you in the Album of Shame? And what if everything I see (and everything that many others see) conflicts with your initial judgement? Could it not be possible that your judgement is clouded in some way by having an initial judgement to start with, instead of just starting with the idea that women are, you know, just as broad and varied as anyone else?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/14 10:48 AM
4	RPW and TRP: Article favorably compares techniques of abusers with PUA/TRP techniques. What do you think about this? Apologies, not familiar with the rules. And exactly what evidence do you have to say that's what relationships used to be like? The relationships I've had which have been the strongest in those regards were relationships in which the girl was as much of a feminist as I am, because when equality in the relationship is assumed, one can focus on getting to know and love one another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/14 08:38 PM
4	RPW and TRP: Article favorably compares techniques of abusers with PUA/TRP techniques. What do you think about this? Women have had control all this time serious jej Also, to me, a relationship is not "an eternal power struggle in which one party fights for control", it's a bond between two people who have agreed to share their thoughts, their feelings, and their lives with each other, for any amount of time. It's a mutually beneficial act of unparalleled trust in another person, and it allows each person to grow as the other leads them out of their comfort zone. And that's where love comes from :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/14 08:16 PM
8	RPW and TRP: Article favorably compares techniques of abusers with PUA/TRP techniques. What do you think about this? The problem is that you're looking at a relationship as if it's a war.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/14 04:52 PM
3	Are you in the Album of Shame? Funny, because the majority of girls I meet are the same as the majority of guys I meet - all different to one another. I've met as many selfish, thoughtless, bitchy guys than selfish, thoughtless, bitchy women - if not more of the former - and I've met just as many guys and girls that were intelligent, thoughtful, empathetic people. Perhaps girls just pick up on the fact that you're pre-emptively judging them to be "selfish thoughtless bitches" and as such are just horrible to you because of it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/14 07:50 PM
3	Are you in the Album of Shame? And what, specifically, have you observed?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/14 06:14 PM
3	Are you in the Album of Shame? And what proof do you have that the "modern woman" is the same as what you think they are?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/14 04:37 PM
2	Are you in the Album of Shame? Or, they show people what TRP is really like and make sure people never go there. It's amazing the conclusions you can draw when you ignore the fact that people subscribing to you are visible, but people deciding to stay away from you are invisible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/14 12:41 PM
5	Are you in the Album of Shame? Which traits are those, specifically? I would say that you've made a judgement first and (in a classic case of confirmation bias) everything you see now confirms your initial judgement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/14 12:38 PM
6	Are you in the Album of Shame? mere thoughtless animals that hurt good people for no reason other then their ignorance and selfishness Once again, TRP's complete lack of self-awareness shines through. TRP is literally all about being selfish, hurting and manipulating people for your own gain. Furthermore, the entire "philosophy" (as if it wasn't an insult to the entire field of philosophy to call it that) is built upon ignorance based off cherry-picking and generalisations. They claim to know what women "really" want, but in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/14 12:36 PM
10	why is there so much hate in trp? This is because you assume that women are inherently broken (or, at least, inferior to men), which is a hateful and disgusting way of looking at more than half the population.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/14 08:58 AM
2	Letter to "provocatively" dressed girl who was street "harassed" A woman dressing the way she wants and walking on the same street as you is not "parading herself around", and while feeling frustrated that you can't have her is natural and fine, you have no right to catcall anyone just because they make you sexually frustrated, and thinking that you do have the right is entitlement, regardless of how you phrase it.	/r/MensRights	05/08/14 07:41 PM
2	Letter to "provocatively" dressed girl who was street "harassed" Of course, but those are extreme circumstances, and in the same way one might rightfully take offense to revealing clothing in certain extreme circumstances, such as at a funeral or a church. But we were talking generally, just in terms of streetwear.	/r/MensRights	05/08/14 07:02 PM
0	Letter to "provocatively" dressed girl who was street "harassed" Wow! Insulting someone's intelligence because they have a different viewpoint to you? Check! Pointing to "political correctness" as some sort of all-pervading Moloch that is somehow more damaging than the bigotry it fights against? Check! Just one more MRA cliché and you'll have a hat trick! The original post clearly sympathises with those men who "know they don't have a chance in hell" with that woman, even claiming that her having her own sexuality and dressing in a certain way (which the post…	/r/MensRights	05/08/14 05:55 PM
0	Letter to "provocatively" dressed girl who was street "harassed" An example of dehumanisation would be a man catcalling a woman on the street, because in that moment he's looking at her as a sex object, not a human being.	/r/MensRights	05/08/14 05:41 PM
8	Letter to "provocatively" dressed girl who was street "harassed" How is a woman dressing the way she wants an "insult" to anyone? Is someone wearing expensive clothing an insult to those that can't afford it? And why does anyone have a right to dehumanise others for the way they dress? This post is a disgusting example of victim blaming.	/r/MensRights	05/08/14 12:43 PM
1	'It's not that I distrust her as a person, it's that she's a woman.' You say that as if the field of evolutionary psychology (from which redpillers primarily derive their ideas on masculinity and femininity) isn't riddled with pseudoscience, broad assumptions and "scientific" bigotry. How about core physical and psychological traits, especially regarding mate selection? You're going to have to give me solid examples or I'll have no idea what you're talking about. Moreover, don't studies tend to show that women actually prefer less "masculine" men to settle down i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/14 09:07 AM
6	'It's not that I distrust her as a person, it's that she's a woman.' Masculinity and femininity are clear social constructs because what it means to encompass those ideas changes over time. In the 1700s, English men wore stockings and makeup, and this was taken to be masculine, but both of those things are now seen as deeply feminine. During the dark ages, women weren't confined to the kitchen, nor were men to the fields - everyone did as much as they could without specific ideas of what jobs were "masculine" or "feminine". The idea that body hair is unfeminine w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/14 01:52 AM
3	'It's not that I distrust her as a person, it's that she's a woman.' There is no one True Masculinity, but there are typical male behaviors and typical female responses. The blank slate is completely disproved. [citation needed]	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 10:06 PM
1	Why is there a discussion? I'm not saying that either is the standard for persuasion. I'm saying that although TBP could be more persuasive, the evidence it has now is damning enough as it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 06:08 PM
1	Why is there a discussion? Firstly, to imply that only /r/TheBluePill has "strange inside joke lingo" seems ludicrous when /r/TheRedPill has "hypergamous", "dread game", "plate", "dark triad", "hamstering", "gina tingles", and more. Both subreddits have their own internal lingo; the only difference is that TBP uses it jokingly whereas TRP uses it seriously. Secondly, you assume that showing outsiders how bad TRP is and making fun of terpers using in-jokes are mutually exclusive, and I don't agree. The subreddit's purpose …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 05:39 PM
2	Why is there a discussion? I completely disagree. I think anyone with a shred of empathy and understanding of women is completely unpersuaded by TRP's toxic masculinity and obvious misogyny. Furthermore, what precisely is not persuasive about a stickied thread at the very top of the subreddit showing the ideological enemies of the blue pill to be disgustingly misogynistic at best and rapists at worst? If you're going to make a claim as bold and sweeping as "the blue pill subreddit is a cesspool of idiocy and hysteria", at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 04:49 PM
1	Why is there a discussion? http://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2amik2/maritial_rape_is_a_fucking_joke_trp_endorsed/ Look at this post. This is stickied to the very top of /r/TheBluePill. Is this a "middle school inside joke"? http://imgur.com/a/ms9c6 The comments in this album are all from endorsed TRP contributors, and every single one of them espouses deep, blatant misogyny. http://www.reddit.com/user/RedPillSchool is one of the most respected contributors on TRP and believes that "sex within marriage has alrea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 11:55 AM
5	'It's not that I distrust her as a person, it's that she's a woman.' Masculinity doesn't exist. It is a social construct pushed on you by a society that wants to keep men and women in little boxes by telling them that "X is masculine, so men should be doing X" and "X is feminine, so women should be doing X".	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 11:50 AM
5	'It's not that I distrust her as a person, it's that she's a woman.' It's different because this: Likewise, we use our best judgement of behavior to determine how we see women. Is misogyny, plain and simple. Your ideas about what women are are based partly on pseudoscientific principles mainly rooted in evolutionary psychology, a field which notoriously devalues the influence of our social climate in creating ideas of "masculinity" and "femininity" in favour of explaining away things by saying that they're "just natural". It's a deeply facile way of looking at th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/14 11:47 AM
1	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. At least explain why, as opposed to just contradicting me.	/r/MensRights	13/06/14 02:15 PM
0	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. The majority of homeless are men because men are pushed to achieve and take risks while doing so, and that accepting help is "unmasculine", whereas women are told that they don't need to achieve and that they should let a man hold them up. If you want to talk about biological truths, women live longer on average partially due to the lowering effect estrogen has on blood pressure levels, leading to considerably less instances of heart disease among women, which is the number one killer for men. Y…	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 06:56 PM
1	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. You say that "patriarchy theory" isn't a good theory. Expand on that or your point is meaningless. 95% of the highest-earning (and thus, most powerful) people in the world are men and women are objectified ceaselessly in every form of media. Smells like a patriarchy to me. You say that "rape culture" is a trivially stupid idea. Expand on that or your point is meaningless. Here's a recent example of the trivialisation of rape in media: In the most recent episode of Game Of Thrones, a consensual s…	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 11:38 AM
1	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. I believe you have it backwards. The disadvantages, as proven by my above comment, affect both men and women, and are simply a result of a society that forces men and women into gender roles. The reason why it is called the patriarchy is not because those who named it are saying that this is the logical consequence of men's power, but rather because as it stands, 95% of the people in top, top positions of power are men. It would be called the Matriarchy if the opposite was true and women ran the…	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 11:20 AM
4	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. Or perhaps some men are feminists because the pressure on fitting into gender roles for both men and women (but mostly women) in every aspect of our society is so blatantly clear to anyone who thinks about it that they want to affiliate themselves with a movement that has historically fought to alleviate those burdens and create a platform where women are not only equal to where men currently are, but where both sexes are lifted higher than their current societal limitations by casting aside the…	/r/MensRights	11/06/14 07:37 PM
27	Woman makes eight false rape claims, but serves no jail time Written and drawn by the Cyanide & Happiness guys.	/r/MensRights	21/11/10 02:36 AM
12	One of the more chilling wrongful rape claims in recent times: the woman who sent a man to prison for five years because she was bored, and sick of men Well. Fucking. Said.	/r/MensRights	12/11/10 09:17 PM
3	One of the more chilling wrongful rape claims in recent times: the woman who sent a man to prison for five years because she was bored, and sick of men Fuck people like this. Fuck them. Wait, then they'd have legitimate complaints...	/r/MensRights	12/11/10 09:16 PM