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| 10 | Suing Taylor Swift, what could go wrong?I mean, I had an Italian dude mime oral sex at me while sitting at dinner with his girlfriend. The guy probably just jumped at the best chance to grab a celebrity's ass. The type of person to molest another human isn't likely to be super empathetic about a significant other's feelings. He brought all of this on himself (especially considering he waited years, until her reputation was less innocent, to try to smear her). The photo proves that bare or not, he was reaching for her ass. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/17 08:51 PM |
| 31 | As a feminist, I am so disappointed in feminism...Oh hey, I got a reddit summons. Didn't know they did that, huh. Ah man, I stood by this sub for such a long, long time. I spent years defending it to its detractors, but eventually... there was just too much vitriol for me. As the population of the sub grew, the percentage of crazy people didn't change, but the number grew higher, and whereas in the early days it was just two or three angry idiots who'd use a lot of personal attacks, the number just got too high to deal with. And the content wen… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/14 02:00 AM |
| 0 | Men who prefer slim women are called shallow. 98.8% of women won't message a short man because of "biological preference."Well, I don't defend outrage, but it is slightly different, because people carry weight differently, and not just by height. Muscle weighs more, boobs can add more, etc. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/13 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Study confirms the feeling of "creepiness" is largely bullshit. Being male, being nonconformist/deviant, being unemployed, talking about your personal life, having pale skin, and talking about sex are overwhelmingly seen as 'creepy'.The study itself backs up creepiness as being real, and theorizes on why we feel it. And yeah, a lot of social research is flawed. It's a core concept of psychology that you can heavily influence people with context--have people watch an accident, all the same video, and depending on the words used in the questions afterwards, they'll estimate entirely different speeds for the cars involved. If you're unaware of that and are priming your subjects, you're doing shitty research. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Study confirms the feeling of "creepiness" is largely bullshit. Being male, being nonconformist/deviant, being unemployed, talking about your personal life, having pale skin, and talking about sex are overwhelmingly seen as 'creepy'.Sorry, but aspie behaviour isn't normal. Well, I mean, it is for you guys, but it's not socially normal. It can be really offputting, and definitely puts someone up in that "ambiguous threat" zone, because someone who doesn't understand social codes can break any of them at any time. My aspie friend, great as she can be, is known to punch people, and has dumped drinks on people. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Study confirms the feeling of "creepiness" is largely bullshit. Being male, being nonconformist/deviant, being unemployed, talking about your personal life, having pale skin, and talking about sex are overwhelmingly seen as 'creepy'.I feel like this study is irredeemably flawed because these things weren't independently rated as creepy, they were specifically invited to be thought of as creepy. It wasn't "What do these traits make you think of" and seeing how many people listed creepy for what, it was "A good friend just met a creep, here's a list of traits and now you rate how likely this was to be a trait they had". I mean, pale skin? Yeah, most of us imagine creeps as having pale skin, because you think of someone who hi… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Study confirms the feeling of "creepiness" is largely bullshit. Being male, being nonconformist/deviant, being unemployed, talking about your personal life, having pale skin, and talking about sex are overwhelmingly seen as 'creepy'.And specifically when they are being prompted to think about creepiness, too. "Do you think this is creepy", of course you're going to imagine the creepiest possible version of it. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 05:45 AM |
| -3 | At least one female gamer gets it....But generally, the women in MGS have been pretty fierce, as well. There's a logical explanation for soldiers to be muscular, and you can find plenty of real soldiers who have similar builds (this isn't a game with crazy unrealistic bodybuilder-god men). Find me any soldier anywhere running around in a string bikini and torn fishnets, though. Your argument would hold water if this were, like, Mortal Kombat, but. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 05:40 AM |
| 2 | At least one female gamer gets it....although in the case of female fantasies there may be a more athletic style of muscularity rather than exaggerated bulk I still have to say you are really underestimating how much that matters. All muscle is not equal when it comes to female attraction. There is a distinct level where it becomes a big turn off to a lot of women, not just some neutral thing. But you are correct about the big difference in facial attractiveness. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:37 AM |
| 2 | At least one female gamer gets it....It's the tights that really bug me. Why even bother? They're covering her skin still--just only sort of. And like, why does she have a weird shoulder harness? It's an outfit specifically designed to be "action-sexy" in a completely useless and impractical manner. The stupid leg pouches just make me think of Liefeld and the awful art in nineties comics. I mean, that said, it's more of a roll my eyes annoyance, but still. I don't understand the people who genuinely rage about it, but I also don't … | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:29 AM |
| 1 | At least one female gamer gets it....Even if her skin camouflages, the outfit makes no sense. She's running around in a string bikini top (not even an actual bra), torn tights, and some belts and pouches. If you're going camo-skin, it's naked or pointless. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:22 AM |
| -2 | At least one female gamer gets it....No, they really aren't. Especially since this character was specifically designed by a man. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:20 AM |
| 3 | At least one female gamer gets it....Actually, she'd want to go naked or nothing. A floating bikini isn't going to camouflage. Those tights make the whole concept ridiculous. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:20 AM |
| 1 | At least one female gamer gets it....Heteronormative isn't just about sexuality, but about strict, strict gender roles. As in, insinuating that all women do that shit, when a large number do not. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:19 AM |
| 2 | At least one female gamer gets it....but that's irrelevant No, it's really not, when you're sniping at an entire gender as if they are doing something ridiculous homogenously. Almost no women I know do any of that shit, beyond some dyed hair (which men do too) and occasional makeup use. But like, fake lashes and liposuction and spanx? That's a fraction of the population. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:16 AM |
| 1 | At least one female gamer gets it....Well, in the Sims, your characters are trying to have sex, not fight wars. There's a difference. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:14 AM |
| -3 | At least one female gamer gets it....Both men and women wear underwear in MGS? | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:11 AM |
| 0 | At least one female gamer gets it....It's still not the same as wanting to be raped for real. Just like a guy who wants his girlfriend to wear a cheerleader outfit probably doesn't want to go out and molest fourteen year old girls. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:09 AM |
| 0 | At least one female gamer gets it....But no one who is in to rape fantasies wants just anyone who isn't fat or ugly to do it. There's nothing "simple" about it. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:08 AM |
| -1 | At least one female gamer gets it....They really aren't. Are body builder and comic-book-art superhero bodies the kind of men women fawn over? Or are they pretty boy slim guys, like boy bands, and Robert Pattison, and Johnny Depp? I mean, the biggest guy out there that women fawn over is Chris Hemsworth, but he's an exception to the general rule. It's not to say women don't like fit men, but they're usually way less built than what male power fantasies look like. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:07 AM |
| 2 | At least one female gamer gets it....Actually, for most rational people, the core argument is when there is a disparity in costumes. I don't care about the body types, but it does bug me if men get full armour and women are running around in bikinis. Are the dudes in loincloths? As long as they're equally ridiculous, who cares. But like, she's supposed to be military, but she's wearing a string bikini top? Not even a sports bra? And some torn tights? None of the other characters in the MGS games wear crap like that. No shirtless me… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/13 04:04 AM |
| 2 | I noticed something interesting in my health insurance policy about birth control coverage...No, I'm talking about way before Obamacare. Back in the nineties, there was a big todo about it. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 10:40 PM |
| 2 | I noticed something interesting in my health insurance policy about birth control coverage...You should care. You can't sit back and bitch that no one is doing anything if you aren't doing anything. Once upon a time, most insurance companies would cover Viagra, but not birth control. So women started bitching, and protesting, and things changed. So do something. Make the petitions, work up a frenzy. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/13 03:59 PM |
| 7 | A professor in my hometown, Fredericton New Brunswick, is on a hunger strike for the decision made by the courts to pay 83% of his salary to his ex-wife.The kid's in college, it's not a custody matter. It's a father not wanting to leave his child screwed over. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 11:09 AM |
| 9 | This post by a female friend of mine made me very uneasyWell, it says reevaluate every three months until marriage, and then to start praising. Minus the coldness of it, the idea of evaluating your relationship to make sure it's still going well rather than just being comfortable and familiar is not a bad one. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/13 06:10 PM |
| 11 | this breath of fresh air is currently circulating around tumblr, and is mainly propagated by young womenYeah. The regret can be something like "Why didn't I keep fighting", not just "Why did I have sex with him". The former is rape, the latter isn't. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/13 12:42 PM |
| 0 | I've heard about it, but it finally happened to me.You don't sit on the children's equipment and smoke. That is meant for children. It doesn't matter if it was built before your kids were born; it was always for children. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/13 04:28 AM |
| 2 | I've heard about it, but it finally happened to me.He wasn't arrested or stopped. The cop just asked him a couple of questions. Nothing illegal happened, and the cop did nothing wrong. The sad part of the story is in the person who reported an innocent dude, not a cop doing his job. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 01:01 AM |
| -2 | I've heard about it, but it finally happened to me.It does, because for all the cop knows (until he actually finds out what's going on), the "suspicious person" could actually be a convicted sex offender who isn't allowed near children, sitting and blowing kisses at the kiddies. Yes, obviously that's a ludicrous scenario, but while the person reporting it has seen the situation, the cop hasn't, and it's their job. Just like how most unattended bags on a subway are just something someone forgot, but you still have to shut it down to find out, bec… | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 12:59 AM |
| -8 | I've heard about it, but it finally happened to me.You were on the swingset, dude. You are a huge dick if you sit on children's equipment and smoke around them, damaging their health. You shouldn't have been harassed, but you should have been told to smoke elsewhere. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 12:56 AM |
| 1 | I've heard about it, but it finally happened to me.If the park has a swingset, it was built to include children. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 12:55 AM |
| 27 | I've heard about it, but it finally happened to me.It was probably a concerned neighbor who thought they were doing you a solid and reporting thieves who might have been casing your house. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 12:55 AM |
| 12 | I've heard about it, but it finally happened to me.The thing is, you can't prove "suspicious". If you see someone sitting around, and you think they're staring at the children, it can be genuinely suspicious. A free human can sit anywhere, but a convicted sex offender wouldn't be allowed anywhere near there. And you only get caught violating such restraints if someone, you know, catches you doing it. Someone male hanging out at a playground shouldn't seem suspicious on its own, though. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/13 12:54 AM |
| -2 | I always hated the "False Equivalency" comic.Because when women complain about the sexualisation of female characters in comics, the response isn't, generally, yours. They don't bring up the realistic issues in general, or get into an actual discussion of equality. They literally try to say that male supers are also sexual. Trust me, this is not a made-up scenario. It comes up all the time in the comic forums. And it does matter why, because most of the time, women aren't complaining that supers should be totally realistic. They just want … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 01:50 PM |
| 1 | I always hated the "False Equivalency" comic....she specifically said feminine traits are attractive in men. Not bad. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 01:47 PM |
| 3 | I always hated the "False Equivalency" comic.Well, female fashion models aren't being sexually objectified, you're right. Movie stars are, but they look a lot different. Most complaints about fashion models aren't about sexual objectification, it's about their health. Fashion models are a version of a female power fantasy, just like male superheroes are a male power fantasy. So yes, that would indeed be another example of a false equivalency. Superheroes do not physically represent what the overwhelming majority of women find attractive. T… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 01:46 PM |
| 8 | I always hated the "False Equivalency" comic.But in superhero comics, which is what this comic is about, you do care about the characters. They aren't objects you're using. They're character-driven entertainment, with personal conflicts and lives and drama. Then again, I find the idea that seeing everyone around you as utilitarian objects to be horrific. I very much judge people by how they treat the people around them. You don't have to reduce them to objects. You don't have to choose between a person who does nothing, and an object who d… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 01:40 PM |
| 1 | I always hated the "False Equivalency" comic.I don't know about other arguments, but the comic itself isn't saying male power fantasies are bad--just they aren't female sexual fantasies. That female sexual fantasies look very different. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 01:36 PM |
| 3 | I always hated the "False Equivalency" comic.Restricting the argument back to superhero comics, which is the only thing the original comic was talking about (not media as a whole), why should superhero comics be only for men? There's not a lack of female interest--look at audiences for superhero movies, and huge female fan bases for those, and for the superhero TV shows. But despite the fact that superhero comic book readership is stagnant and shrinking, DC still went and targeted their New 52 revamp... towards men between 18 and 34. Unsur… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 01:35 PM |
| -3 | I always hated the "False Equivalency" comic.Says who? Guys, generally. If you look at any discussion threads about the topic in the comic book subreddits, there's always a large chunk of guys saying "Well so what, I'm a guy and I like this and it's targeted at me". Also, the overwhelming majority of creative talent in mainstream superhero comic books are male. DC was down to 1% female creators for a while, and is now still only back up to 10%--and I'm picking this article to cite it because it specifically expresses a view much closer to … | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 01:27 PM |
| -2 | Just more feminism double standardsWhy would you say that? I also am not saying you can't complain about romance novels. Just that you shouldn't compare them to superhero comics. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 12:40 PM |
| 0 | Just more feminism double standardsSpandex is actually really utilitarian. There's a reason why gymnasts and swimmers and the like all wear skin-tight stuff--because it doesn't get in the way. But there's a difference between wearing a tight outfit, and wearing almost no clothing. Most of the complaints about outfits are about DC characters--Marvel's a lot better at dressing the women like the men (see: most of the female X-men, and Spider-Woman, as opposed to Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Power Girl, etc). Complaining about the bodie… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:56 AM |
| 2 | Just more feminism double standardsHe-Man makes Chris Hemsworth look like Justin Bieber. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:50 AM |
| 1 | Just more feminism double standardsSuperheroes aren't disposable. GI Joe enforces disposability, but superheroes are crucial and invaluable. They enforce the idea that men need to be the strong protector, but that's a little bit different. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:49 AM |
| 0 | Just more feminism double standardsSee, that is a double standard. The image itself isn't. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:48 AM |
| 0 | Just more feminism double standardsYes, they're both bad. But at least, because of protesting, Barbie started to expand to include utility (Vet Barbie, Doctor Barbie, etc etc). Maybe men should start speaking up against the male disposability inherent in army toys. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:46 AM |
| 2 | Just more feminism double standardsEquality in costumes isn't a double standard. A skin tight costume is still WAY more practical and less sexualized than a sexy bathing suit. I mean, I didn't read your conversation, but most of the people protesting about female costumes in super books just want them to be the same in functionality as the male costumes, not for them to be, like, modest baggy Orthodox Christian outfits. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:44 AM |
| -4 | Just more feminism double standardsI really hate that comparison. A romance novel is meant to be erotic and sexual; unless the comic book is an erotic comic, there's no comparison. Complaining about romance novel covers can only be tied in to people who are complaining about women in porn. They're two different things. It's not that the limited roles for power fantasies aren't a problem; it's that "powerful" female characters are still being reduced to being sex objects. "Powerful" male characters are not idealised as sex objects… | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Just more feminism double standardsBut it's such a bad example. Bodybuilders aren't the standard for male beauty. Movie stars are. You don't see dolls for boys that are meant to be about looks. There is no male equivalent to a Barbie. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:35 AM |
| -1 | Just more feminism double standardsActually, you're completely wrong. All indications are that men have a consensus on what is attractive, and women have a much more diverse set of opinions. Unless you mean that a particular individual woman might be more likely to be only attracted to one type of body. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:31 AM |
| 2 | Just more feminism double standardsIf you look at the novel covers, the men on those are nowhere near the size of He-Man, or most giantly muscled superheroes. Women often like muscular men, yes, but generally on a much more realistic scale. Notice how women freak out over prettyboys, not body builders. Yes, you can find He-Man porn, but that does not make his type the common female sexual fantasy, just like the fact that there are people into morbidly obese women doesn't make morbidly obese women the male sexual fantasy. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Just more feminism double standardsHe-Man is definitely not a female sexual fantasy. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/13 05:25 AM |
| 4 | Thought this was an interesting lack of consistency in my online sociology course.I mean, even if you're taking it as "real world" definitions rather than ideological, you've got plenty of African tribes and societies that have or had documented matriarchies. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/13 04:01 AM |
| 8 | Thought this was an interesting lack of consistency in my online sociology course.It's a not a matriarchy. It's a richoldwhitemen-iarchy, with very few exceptions. What a lot of feminists don't seem to get is that "men" and "rich old white men" are not the same circle. Rich old white men are a tiny fraction of men in general, and they exploit and oppress other men just as callously as they do women. That said, when it comes to family matters and custody/divorce law, you are correct, that can be easily and accurately viewed as matriarchal. Side note about the war on women, tha… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/13 03:58 AM |
| 1 | I’ll decide if you were raped, not youOn the optimist's side, that question could have been meant to be asking if you ever had sex you didn't want because you were incapacitated by drugs or alcohol that was given to you. Which would indeed be rape. But at worst, having sex out of a feeling of obligation is something to educate people about so that they know they never NEED to have sex. It sucks, but it's not rape. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/13 11:29 PM |
| 20 | I just realised how true this depiction of society's view is...You should check out AskWomen more often, then. Chubby chasin' ladies everywhere. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/13 08:07 PM |
| 2 | In a divorce that is 50/50 joint custody, what would child support be? Details insideThere are good people out there, though. My mom even saved her alimony to spend on my sister. There should be measures in place to make sure child support isn't abused though. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/13 04:11 PM |
| 0 | Abortion is a Men's Issue, TooBy that logic, then you should be in favour of mandatory organ donation. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/13 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryBMI is useless on an individual, but not on the population at large. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryThe "breach of promise" thing is true, it's just not tied to rings. It had a hell of a lot more to do with virginity and reputation. You can't simultaneously say that an expensive ring is a recent idea (which is factually, provably is), but then also say it's a long tradition. De Beers made up the whole tradition. The only expensive rings before them were between nobles--but as many gifts were given to the man as the woman, and she came with a dowry. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryYeah, and I cook dinner for friends and family and significant others all the time. I buy drinks for my friends, and for my dates. It's ridiculous that you are holding the men in my life to the standards of flowers; I don't give a rat's ass about that shit. Flowers are nice, but they have nothing to do with what I want out of a relationship. No one I've dated or loved has been lesser because of a lack of flowers, and the fact that you think that not buying flowers vs buying flowers says anything… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryOff the top of my Google, this talks about how the size advertising was directed towards men. And here is another with more specific reference. De Beers genuinely made up most of what we believe about rings. Engagement rings as a standard for women didn't even become common until the 19th century, and diamonds not until after the 1930s. And they didn't exist in the West at all until the 13th century, when a betrothal period was introduced by the Pope, and both parties of the couple would wear ri… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryAnd I've never received flowers from a man in my life. Your personal experiences don't invalidate the sayings. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 02:11 AM |
| 0 | Feminism killed chivalryAnd why are those different things more valid or less shallow? It may be more acceptable for a woman to not have muscle mass. But it's more acceptable for a man to have a little extra (not talking about obesity, remember). It's more acceptable for men to have body hair. It's more acceptable for men to care less about their hair and clothes. Etc. It's all the same shit, just different versions of it. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 02:10 AM |
| 3 | Feminism killed chivalryTraditionally, the woman puts a lot more time and money into her appearance. Especially when you go back to the time periods where the man paying was more mandatory--fifties makeup was heavy and expensive and mandatory, the hairstyles were mandatory and could take hours, the undergarments and clothing was more ornate from bras to stockings to jewelry. And yes, it's insulting to women to think that their purpose was to be arm candy, but it's also insulting that men were personified wallets, basic… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalry"The way to a man's heart is through his stomach". You've really never heard that one? | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryAnd "chivalry" is just saying men are good as labour and wallets, if you really want to twist it that way. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 01:48 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryActually, that's completely false. The idea of surprise engagement came about because the diamond industry found that if the woman shopped with her beau, they'd buy a smaller ring. If anything, it's exploiting humanity's natural tendency to overshoot because of worry about what others will think, self-inflicted shame. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 01:44 AM |
| -1 | Feminism killed chivalryMore women are obese, but more men are overweight, actually. From your own link: "The U.S. National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey of 1994 indicated that 59% of American men and 49% of women had BMIs over 25. Morbid obesity—a BMI of 40 or more—was found in 2% of the men and 4% of the women." And just, beware confirmation bias. Are there a lot of women who hold unreasonable standards? Yes. But I certainly know plenty of guys with unreasonable standards as well. The only studies on the ma… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Feminism killed chivalryDepends on the quality of women. It happens amongst most of the people I know all the time. | /r/MensRights | 03/07/13 01:34 AM |
| 1 | That same old hypocrisy!!No wonder you haven't heard of anything, if you won't read a damned article. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/13 04:48 AM |
| 2 | That same old hypocrisy!!Here, here, here--like, literally I have never once heard anyone talk about toplessness without bringing up the inequality issue, whether it's that it is illegal or that a lot of people still think it's illegal when it isn't and frivolous arrests are made. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/13 04:12 AM |
| 1 | "Equal pay case" won. Female Nursery staff sue to have their work counted as equal to males doing manual labour.But it's about opportunity, not outcome. Until they're actually demanding equal pay for different work, there's nothing outrageous about wanting equal opportunity. I mean, nursery jobs aren't as straight up strenuous as road work, but it's gross, you're constantly exposed to shit and piss, and you're exposed to a lot more illness when you interact with kids. There's no justifiable reason to not allow them a bonus if they've earned it. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/13 03:55 AM |
| 1 | That same old hypocrisy!!what about my long luscious locks of hair? And what about sexy male chests? Straight men can keep insisting they're not sexual, but they're wrong. but that's exactly what they are saying They who? I only know of people who protest the places where it's legal for men to go topless but illegal for women. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/13 03:52 AM |
| 1 | That same old hypocrisy!!But breasts aren't involved in sex. They're a secondary sex trait, but so are beards, and body hair, and Adam's apples. Women's breasts are only involved in reproduction in that they feed babies. They are not actually involved in sex whatsoever. They aren't inherently sexual at all (as all the topless tribes will tell you). As a very bisexual lady, let me tell ya, breasts and a nice set of pecs are very much the same when it comes to sexual attraction power. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 02:46 PM |
| 1 | That same old hypocrisy!!Our long, luscious locks of hair being only on our heads is another strong sexual attractor. But most of the modern world thinks forcing women to cover their hair is ridiculous. Agreed about the distinction. No one's saying let people be shirtless in class or at work. But if it's okay for a man to be shirtless without comment in a given scenario, the same should go for a woman in that context. Or at least in a bra. But no, ladies need whole shirts at all times. It's a minor issue, but it's still… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 02:43 PM |
| 1 | That same old hypocrisy!!No, I'm not. The point of the argument is to try to equate boobs with genitals, just because people think they're sexy. Boobs are a secondary sex characteristic. A more accurate comparison would be beards, body hair, Adam's apples. Actually, a more accurate comparison would be about hair in a lot of Muslim communities. Hair a pretty attractive attribute, so women have to cover it, but somehow men often don't. Shirtless men are sexy, too (given that they're attractive--and remember, there are ple… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 02:27 PM |
| 1 | "Equal pay case" won. Female Nursery staff sue to have their work counted as equal to males doing manual labour.It's not even equal pay. Basically, the women's jobs did not allow them to receive bonuses. They sued to get the same bonus structure that the other jobs had. They're different jobs, yes, and deserve different wages. But there's really no reason that a nursery staff member shouldn't be allowed to have a bonus if they've earned one. Making it a gender issue is the ridiculous part. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 12:47 PM |
| 2 | "Equal pay case" won. Female Nursery staff sue to have their work counted as equal to males doing manual labour.Bonus STRUCTURE. It doesn't mean that the wages or the bonuses will be the same. They are seeking the same treatment as male manual workers such as leisure attendants, road workers, groundsmen, refuse drivers and collectors working at local depots and swimming pools. The female staff are employed on conditions set out in a what is known as the Blue Book while their male counterparts have a Green Book. The latter allows for bonus payments and pay supplements while the former does not. The women w… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 12:45 PM |
| 1 | "Equal pay case" won. Female Nursery staff sue to have their work counted as equal to males doing manual labour.That's the problem with headlines. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 10:26 AM |
| 1 | "brainwash" -- norwegian documentary examines how fields like sociology and feminist studies reject actual science because it doesn't fit with their ideologyI'm not disregarding paternity as being important. That's why I put worry in quotation marks, and specified that children in general are seen as more communal. A lot of them even share breast milk. Today, we can not only establish maternity, but also paternity. And most sex uses protections against pregnancy anyways. So my point is that since it isn't a genetically ingrained trait to be sexually jealous, but did matter in a society with private property and no paternity testing and no real birth… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 10:19 AM |
| 1 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.So how can you tell the crazies from the sane? By talking to them a little bit, rather than blanket-banning anyone who isn't firmly in your camp already. The MRM isn't a monolith, sure, but neither is feminism. Which I think a lot of people here forget. You can find feminist groups that have strong tenets, but not even all feminists agree with patriarchy theory, some go for kyriarchy. And feminism among women of colour is entirely different than white upper middle class feminism like NOW. The po… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 10:03 AM |
| 6 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.Not to defend SRS, because that whole loony bin is awful, but just to point out--"we" say a lot more than that. There are plenty of assholes in /mensrights too. I mean, I literally just had someone in here tell me my "problem" is that I'm egalitarian. Heaven forbid someone be for general equality rather than radically on one side. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 09:07 AM |
| 3 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.So don't have anything to do with those people. But most people who vaguely identify with feminism have nothing more to do with those people than you do, is my point. There's a reason I don't call myself feminist, and it's because I'm too informed as to what the politically active actually do. But most people just think about voting, and birth control, if they bother to think about it at all. They think feminism and women's rights are the same thing. There are certainly assholes in /mensrights. … | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 09:06 AM |
| 1 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.There are tons of posters here who say they'll never touch someone who calls herself a feminist. Not a radical feminist, not someone who's actually against men's rights, not someone who's politically active in feminism--anyone who identifies with feminism. Which includes people who don't know anything more about gender politics than voting and abortion and that Patrick Stewart calls himself a feminist. This really isn't any different, and it's highly hypocritical for so many here to get so huffy… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 09:00 AM |
| 1 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.Or maybe they think people in mensrights are radical MRAs. It's just as bad to assume anyone who doesn't like mensrights is a radfem as it is to assume anyone who is in mensrights is a misogynist. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:57 AM |
| 2 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.Uh, because it's kind of offensive? And I mean, I'm egalitarian as shit and have been here for years, but I think theredpill is ridiculous. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:55 AM |
| 2 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.And for those people who can't afford to eat out all the time? And for those people who only have half an hour to eat and don't have time to meet people at lunch? And for those people with niche interests who are absurdly unlikely to run into someone compatible in the regular world? | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:54 AM |
| 1 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.But who is "they"? Every single woman who casually identifies with feminism? Patrick Stewart? A lot of people aren't actually that involved in gender politics and only pay attention to big things, not small stuff like Erin Pizzey. Not to mention that Valerie Solanas is considered a radical feminist, not embraced by feminism as a whole. So it's no different for you to paint all feminists with a broad brush than for this girl to paint all people subscribed here. You're both wrong to do so. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:50 AM |
| 3 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.Well, theredpill is specifically about how to exploit and manipulate people via sexual strategy, so. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:47 AM |
| 1 | A cute girl rated me 5 stars on OKCupid! Oh wait....never mind.But the thing is, most people don't distinguish between women's rights and feminism, so unless you specify the difference, they think you're against women's rights. Maybe the girl on OKC just doesn't like how the subreddit expresses itself, and isn't actually against men's rights. If you want the benefit of the doubt, you have to extend it. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:45 AM |
| 1 | "brainwash" -- norwegian documentary examines how fields like sociology and feminist studies reject actual science because it doesn't fit with their ideologyThere are actual genetic males that can be born with vaginas, is probably the original point. "Natural" transgendered people who grow up as women and identify as women but have XY chromosomes. Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome is an example. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:40 AM |
| 2 | "brainwash" -- norwegian documentary examines how fields like sociology and feminist studies reject actual science because it doesn't fit with their ideologySocially ingrained, not genetically. If you look at cultures that don't have agriculture or much in the way of private property, and thus don't have to "worry" as much about paternity because they aren't passing anything down, there are many many many small cultures and tribes that do not have this sexual jealousy/hypocrisy. Children are often seen as more communal, or in the case of other exceptions like the Mosuo, men focus more on their sisters' children, with the role of uncle being more imp… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:39 AM |
| 1 | "Equal pay case" won. Female Nursery staff sue to have their work counted as equal to males doing manual labour.It's not actually equal pay, though. The nursery staff didn't have a bonus structure, whereas the more manual laborers did. They now have equal bonus structures. If you actually read the article. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:33 AM |
| 0 | "Equal pay case" won. Female Nursery staff sue to have their work counted as equal to males doing manual labour.It's not actually equal pay, though. The nursery staff didn't have a bonus structure, whereas the more manual laborers did. They now have equal bonus structures. If you actually read the article. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:33 AM |
| 1 | "Equal pay case" won. Female Nursery staff sue to have their work counted as equal to males doing manual labour.It's not actually equal pay, though. The nursery staff didn't have a bonus structure, whereas the more manual laborers did. They now have equal bonus structures. If you actually read the article. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:32 AM |
| 3 | That same old hypocrisy!!Breasts are not genitals. Women can't go pantsless either. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:29 AM |
| 1 | That same old hypocrisy!!Legs and ankles used to be considered highly sexual, and yet shorts are allowed. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/13 08:29 AM |
| 4 | Email emoticons are sexual harassment.Because it's a wink. Winks aren't "just" smiles. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/13 11:47 AM |
| 6 | Email emoticons are sexual harassment.Winking is generally accepted to be either a means of conveying being conspirators/"in the know" about a secret, or a means of flirtation. With the only context being that he's thanking her for something, it does come off oddly flirty. Either way, it's weird. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/13 11:46 AM |
| -5 | man who allegedly tricked pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion drug charged with first-degree murder for death of fetusNot really. Consent makes all the difference. If, for example, a woman decides to get a breast reduction for her own quality of life, and sees a surgeon, that is medicine and surgery. If some guy is angry at a woman with big tits and chops them off, or even if he drugs her and performs a safe surgery, that is mutilation and assault. Or, if I have a cat and take it to the vet to be put down, that's fine and legal. If I kill my cat at home, that is animal cruelty. Or, as someone pointed out below,… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/13 12:00 AM |
| 0 | so apparently the draft is discrimination against women.Man, your worldview is so fucked up. Women were not legally allowed to enter the military in most societies, and you're still using scare quotes on "allowed", as if it were just pretend, as if the women who wanted to be able to fight didn't spend decades fighting for it. Just like how the fact that there are men who love the military and enlist voluntarily doesn't change the fact that the men who do not, and were forced to join via the draft, were not happy about it. When you are forcing someone… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 12:05 PM |
| 6 | so apparently the draft is discrimination against women.Actually, women aren't allowed to register for the draft. They're allowed to enlist, but not to register for the draft. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 01:39 AM |
| 4 | so apparently the draft is discrimination against women.Erm, I'm not sure what history you know. But most societies did not allow women to fight. It was only in the 1970s that most Western countries started to allow female soldiers, and it was only this year, 2013, that the US has decided to allow women to fill some front lines positions. Women spent decades fighting for the ability to be in the military. Britain's had women in uniform since 1938, but they were the exception. Here. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 01:38 AM |
| 2 | so apparently the draft is discrimination against women.Actually, people certainly used to. Women have had to fight hard to be allowed into the military, even when they meet the requirements. It was only this year that the US started to allow women to serve in some front lines positions. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/13 01:34 AM |
| 2 | What the hell is "gender"? Explain it please.I guess it depends on how you define original. Aristotle sort of mentions it in contrast to Plato, but that was left alone for a thousand years. Then some Islamic philosophers picked up on it, and separately, St Thomas Aquinas started it up again, and then Locke in the 17th century. So, sometimes it's about just the human intellect and knowledge (which instinct still sort of refutes--if you know how to do anything instinctively, then not all knowledge is blank upon birth), but by Locke's interpr… | /r/MensRights | 06/05/13 01:22 AM |
| 2 | What the hell is "gender"? Explain it please.Some interpretations refer to it that way. The concept originally is of an utterly blank slate. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/13 12:58 AM |
| -1 | I'm ok with you being a slutAs long as you aren't a slut yourself, there's really nothing wrong with that. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 10:40 PM |
| 3 | What the hell is "gender"? Explain it please.It does, though. You can influence someone to be different, but they aren't born a blank slate. They are born with certain inclinations that may or may not express themselves depending on how they are socialized. No one is set in stone utterly, at birth, but they aren't a totally blank slate, either. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 10:37 PM |
| 2 | What the hell is "gender"? Explain it please.Gender is different from sex. Science shows that hormones, not chromosomes, are responsible for gender. See Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, for example. Born with XY chromosomes, but looking and feeling female. And yes, looking. Vagina and all, sometimes. Many of them don't know until they find out by mistake later in life. Chromosomes usually dictate hormones, but not always, and hormones are far and away the more important part. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 10:32 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...The thing is, even if you're taught that no can mean yes sometimes, it's not like they don't know that no also can mean no. Only a few rare sociopaths don't believe in rape at all. They choose to think they are immune to it, though, and never take a moment to think about the other people involved. Even a very ignorant person should still be concerned about their partner, not just wrapped up in their own needs. I talk about enthusiastic consent elsewhere in the thread, which pretty much addresses… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 04:04 AM |
| 0 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...I'm pretty sure you didn't read the Canada link, where the judge said "Yeah, you raped her, but she was dressed up so who can blame you for being confused". Or the other link, which, as I explained, has people straight up saying that the alleged rape wouldn't count as rape even if it happened. Nothing to do with whether or not it happened, but whether or not the situation counts as rape. Because yes, having sex with someone in their sleep without their consent is rape, even if you had sex with t… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 03:59 AM |
| 1 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...Agreed, there. Just saying "Don't rape" isn't going to help anything. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 11:40 PM |
| 3 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...Apathetic or pity sex can still involve a clear "yes". Enthusiastic consent isn't specifically defined, because it's still a newly evolving idea, but is there really anything wrong with making sure your partner is definitely okay with what you're doing before you do something new? As there is no official definition, this is my opinion of what enthusiastic consent is and should be--either of the following: A clear, vocal yes. Enthusiastic physical consent. If your partner puts your hands places. … | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 11:38 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...And yet people are so scathing of the concept of enthusiastic consent. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 11:19 PM |
| 1 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...Never, eh? How about in Italy where it was decided that it can't be rape if the victim was wearing skinny jeans, because those are so hard to take off? That's literally saying if you don't fight back hard enough and let him get your clothes off, it's not rape. Or how about Canada, where the guy was convicted of rape but his sentence was pretty much waved away because the judge agreed that since she was dressed up for their date, it wasn't too rapey. Here are some more examples from 2012 alone. (… | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 11:18 PM |
| 3 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...I wouldn't go so far as to call it merely an accident. But certainly a miscommunication. If someone has been taught his entire life that all women pretend to resist when they don't mean it, or that an erection means yes and all men always want sex, it's different from actively planning to rape someone, yes, but it's still a little different from an accident. That's why enthusiastic consent is such an important thing. People are mocking it elsewhere in the thread, but it's ridiculous to say "More… | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 11:01 PM |
| 4 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...Actually, evidence points to you being wrong. Most rape isn't violent rape, nor stranger rape. And a lot more men self-report as rapists, so long as the actual word "rape" isn't used. Granted, it's still only 6% of men, but a lot of people (like, seemingly, you) think rape has to involve screaming and biting. Just because someone doesn't fight to the death doesn't mean that they consented. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 10:58 PM |
| 3 | The fundamental flaw in reasoning with potential rapists...It's enthusiastic consent. Like it or not, it's very common for people to just freeze up when they're nervous. Quite a bit of the time, "just not saying no" happens after someone has already said no, but the aggressor keeps coming back for more. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 10:55 PM |
| 3 | Florida lawmakers move to end permanent alimony, as governor weighs legislationThose are the caps. Alimony is not automatically rewarded, nor is it always set at the maximum. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/13 10:00 PM |
| 7 | Florida lawmakers move to end permanent alimony, as governor weighs legislationFor the most part, splitting up retirement is separate from alimony. An ex-spouse may be entitled to a share of their pension, or of their retirement savings/investments when they come to fruit. Which is all well and good under certain circumstances, but under no circumstances is it reasonable to insist on lifetime alimony payments on top of that. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/13 09:53 PM |
| 5 | MRAs opinions of transgendered people and issues - your thoughts?Hahaha. Man, that's super logical. "Hmm, I don't like this science, so it must be a lie. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/13 06:10 PM |
| 10 | MRAs opinions of transgendered people and issues - your thoughts?And what about the fact that studies have shown that trans people's brains resemble their preferred gender rather than their biological sex? Or that people with androgen insensitivity syndrome show that even your phenotypical gender (the bone, muscular, vascular, and brain systems of which you speak, and even the visible genitalia) is entirely dependent on hormones, not your chromosomes? If you're not familiar with AIS, you really should look into it before you stand by your opinion. A transitio… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/13 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Flashback, April 1964: 'Dear Abby' on military draftIf they tried to institute one, certainly. But my point is that the draft is inactive, and so it's been mostly forgotten by a lot of people. I am completely in favour of abolishing SS and the draft, but I don't think it's hypocritical for people to think they should be focusing their efforts on things that are actively impacting people in more negative ways. If they think it doesn't matter at all and should be left in place even if we didn't have anything "better" to focus on, then they're hypoc… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/13 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Flashback, April 1964: 'Dear Abby' on military draftI know it's invalid. I'm against SS, and against the draft, and want it to be abolished. All I'm doing is explaining why no one agitates about the draft anymore. Why it seems unimportant to most people nowadays. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/13 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Flashback, April 1964: 'Dear Abby' on military draftYes, and I agree with you. But a lot of people are lazy. Unless the draft were activated, it doesn't seem "worth it" to most people to care about selective service when there are other, active problems going on. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/13 12:03 PM |
| 3 | Contemplating marriage?There's plenty to counter them. You just have to look for them, because happy people aren't angrily spitting out rants on the internet. But there are tons of examples of happy marriages in AskReddit alone. Also, most places don't have common-law marriages anymore. Only nine states still have them, with a couple more recognising them only in extreme circumstances (like in NH, where it only applies when one of them dies, for dealing with the estate). But mostly, it depends on where you are. There … | /r/MensRights | 19/04/13 04:27 AM |
| 1 | Flashback, April 1964: 'Dear Abby' on military draftBut the draft isn't. Believe me, you're preaching to the choir, I'm just laying out the Devil's Advocate position: Since no one gets drafted, and no one ever will be drafted, who cares that you have to register? | /r/MensRights | 19/04/13 04:18 AM |
| 1 | Flashback, April 1964: 'Dear Abby' on military draftI believe his point is that since the draft hasn't actually been activated in generations, it doesn't seem important. It's been forty years since anyone was drafted. It's still wildly unfair in principle that men and only men still have to register, but to many people it doesn't seem relevant because it feels like a relic, something that hasn't been used in years. Like, in Michigan, it's technically still illegal for a married woman to get a haircut without her husband's permission. There'd be a… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/13 04:08 AM |
| 2 | Flashback, April 1964: 'Dear Abby' on military draftNot everything is a responsibility if it isn't a privilege. Women can wear whatever the hell they want, for example. A woman doesn't have to wear makeup or skirts anymore. A woman in pants once would have been stared at as much as a man in a skirt or makeup would today, but no one cares anymore. And certainly no one's going to beat her up for wearing jeans like a man might get attacked for wearing women's clothing. But there's no evasion of responsibility there. Plus, the military is a hard one … | /r/MensRights | 19/04/13 03:47 AM |
| 1 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisObama's healthcare plan made well over a hundred concessions for women Source for that? There are only twenty two items in the covered services for women, and a couple of those are for everyone and just repeated in the women's section (like tobacco use counseling). Eight of those are specifically related to pregnancy, and several others are just various STI screenings that are explicitly underlined for women because women are at higher risk for and from them (not only do women catch STIs more ea… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 03:03 PM |
| 1 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisYou should have scrolled up. A lot of your questions would have been answered. Many services are available to both genders, they're just repeated in the women's section. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 08:41 AM |
| 1 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisThe "well-woman" visits are poorly defined, but are generally supposed to be just a basic physical and gynecological exam and education about what kinds of healthcare you might need. It is one of the couple of examples of sexism (the other big one being that sterilization is covered for women but not men), but it's really not anything like "Women get anything they want for free". Not to mention that even minor internet searching will get you back tons of free screening results for men, not just … | /r/MensRights | 11/04/13 08:37 AM |
| 16 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisHe's from Trollville. The whole post is based on lies, including the fact that there are no such free heart screening provisions for women in the ACA. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 10:19 PM |
| 2 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisThere are some flaws in the ACA, but he totally made this up. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 10:18 PM |
| 2 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisThere are no such policies in the ACA. He's just cherrypicking some women's outreach screening programs and lying about the law. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 10:18 PM |
| 1 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisWomen don't get free screenings because of the government, though. There's no such provisions in the ACA. This whole post is a big lie. It's really easy to find free screenings for men, too; he just cherrypicked some for women. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 10:16 PM |
| 4 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisThat's because there aren't any. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 10:15 PM |
| 2 | 19 year old male with really scary heart symptoms- found plenty of free heart screenings...for women. So because I DON'T think people should be denied medical care because of their gender, I'm a sexisIt's okay, it's a complete lie that women get free heart screenings because of Obamacare. Some places may offer them, but it isn't because of the government. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/13 10:14 PM |
| 4 | I made an edit of a popular xkcd comic that I think better encapsulates accusations of misogyny.You may live somewhere with a regional exception, but this isn't just widespread culturally, it's widespread historically. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 07:48 PM |
| 0 | "My Bad Sex Wasn’t Rape" says feminist on Alternet, of all placesHe was there while she was unconscious. You wanted evidence she was unconscious that night, it's right there. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 09:49 PM |
| 1 | "My Bad Sex Wasn’t Rape" says feminist on Alternet, of all placesAnd how about the people who testified that she wasn't moving or responding? Or the pictures all over the internet where she was unconscious? Like this one? They didn't "rape" her in that they didn't put a penis inside of her vagina. But they still raped her. Also, that video of the boy? He was there. Not during the assault, but at the parties. He was there, and talks about her stare, and how she didn't react when people peed on her. It wasn't about texts. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 03:12 AM |
| 1 | "My Bad Sex Wasn’t Rape" says feminist on Alternet, of all placesShe makes it more clear afterwards. You really should have kept reading. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/13 03:04 AM |
| 0 | This Was on CNN's Front PageYou completely missed my point that it doesn't say it has to be victim's vagina or anus. And also, sexual assault is still a crime, the death penalty hasn't been allowed in any state in the US for many years, and turn off your caps lock key. Not to mention that that is just the FBI definition, and many states define rape by their own standards. For example, in Pennsylvania, it's completely gender neutral and protects everyone. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 12:31 PM |
| 0 | This Was on CNN's Front PageEh. It'd be nice if the language were explicit to include male victims of female rape, but it doesn't say "the victim's vagina or anus". It just says any penetration, without the consent of the victim. It's not hard at all to argue that it does protect men from female rapists (wittingly or no). It does rather explicitly include a woman forcing a man to perform oral. Labia or clitoris can easily end up in someone's mouth, and that is then rape. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 06:08 AM |
| 13 | The Steubenville rape trial and /r/MensRights.I guess you just really need more perspective on it. My best friend is in Ohio, and the local news outlets and general populace are blatantly portraying it as these two poor football heroes having their lives ruined by a dumb slut. These boys did an evil, terrible thing. And worse than that, they tried to glory in it. There really isn't any room for sympathy, especially not when there is no sympathy expressed for the actual victim. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 04:47 AM |
| 12 | The Steubenville rape trial and /r/MensRights.That's the point. There were the videos and photos and bragging and all that; it is cut and dry that they were guilty. And yet, in a bizarre twist of events, you have the media getting misty-eyed about how these convicted rapists have had their lives ruined, and oh these poor boys. It's fucking crazyland. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 02:52 AM |
| 3 | A friend posted this surprisingly one-sided diagram on Facebook then proceeded to tell me there's no such thing is false rape accusations.You read it wrong. "The rapist's [feelings], jesus christ what the fuck is wrong with you", not the rapist is Jesus. This is why we need grammar. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/13 05:01 PM |
| 1 | I'm 20 and was just diagnosed with a terminal illness. fuck you r/againstmensrights!He smokes crack and is a voluntarily homeless drug addict. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/13 07:35 PM |
| 2 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whYes, well, other than the TED talk which shows you, I wasn't particularly interested in putting more than ten seconds of work into Google. I cited enough, if you're really curious, go ahead and keep researching. We're not really arguing about womb masturbation, it's not a critical point. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 03:01 PM |
| 4 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whWell, there's sonogram photos and video evidence. I saw it in a TED talk, so I went an unearthed it. 49 seconds or so in here. And I don't know how reliable thestraightdope really is, but apparently doctors claim to have witnessed it with female fetuses as well. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:29 PM |
| 20 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whOr if a man had asked a little girl, and so on. I'm not a fan of how we treat sexuality in our society--"protecting" "pure" girls and demonizing the rest of it. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:23 PM |
| 2 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whWhy does it matter who he was or where he worked? Is firing someone over criticizing some morbid feminist fantasy play now good reason to fire someone, only as long as they don't work anywhere important? It matters because a campus newsletter isn't a respected, unbiased source of journalism--and doesn't pretend to be. I don't support their actions, but a school is allowed to publish a paper from their viewpoint, because they're admitting it's biased. It's like being upset that a church group wou… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:03 PM |
| 3 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whYes, but the problem is that all of those lines are different. Stat rape may be rape in one place, but legal in another, because they have different ages. When both parties are consenting, it's very modernistic to insist that a fifteen year old is a child, when for most of history they would have been seen as a full-fledged adult. We've expanded childhood to last far beyond physical childhood, and that's illogical. I'm not against stat rape laws. And I'm not in favour of big sexual age gaps, I a… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:00 PM |
| -3 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whSo when she put in stories about violence against women, does that mean she endorses that? The other monologues about male-on-female rape must mean she's way pro-rape, then. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 12:53 PM |
| 48 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whTo break the circlejerk for a moment, because you're attempting to document the female experience with the vagina, and you want to show how girls feel about their vaginas before they become sexual. It's not like little girls don't have vaginas. It's not like we need to protect them from finding out, or something. There's nothing wrong with asking a kid about her vagina for non-sexual purposes. Eve talked to old ladies and regular women and a dominatrix and so on about their vaginas, too. Acknowl… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 12:50 PM |
| 12 | TIL in The Vagina Monologues a 13-year-old girl is raped by a 24-year old woman, and it is referred to as "a good rape" & a healing experience. When a man at a newspaper wrote an article asking whI grew up in a completely open household. Making sex shameful and pretending that children won't discover their own bodies is ludicrous. Kids masturbate in the womb, and as babies, and toddlers, and throughout their entire lives. It's not tied to anything sexual in the slightest, but it still happens. I really don't like Eve Ensler, but despite the incredible bias of the play, she was attempting to document the female experience with the vagina. There's nothing pedophile-y about interviewing a y… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 12:46 PM |
| 0 | I believe this is somewhat related to this sub, especially with the excessive pollution of modern new age tumblr feminism.I can't remember everyone who's ever hit on me, not even the creepiest ones, but I can usually remember who I was hanging out with just a bit earlier that evening. There's nothing unlikely about her reaction at all. I've been telling stories about some of my worst encounters since they happened, but I could no longer tell you what they looked like. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 01:10 PM |
| 1 | I believe this is somewhat related to this sub, especially with the excessive pollution of modern new age tumblr feminism.She really didn't. She made a post about it being annoying to be constantly hit on inappropriately, and then Richard Dawkins made it all about how her troubles overshadow oppressed raped women in Africa. She kept making it worse, but she didn't start it. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 01:08 PM |
| 1 | I believe this is somewhat related to this sub, especially with the excessive pollution of modern new age tumblr feminism.Before everyone ever freaked out about (which happened when Dawkins was really snide about it and overinflated her comments), all she originally said was that there's a big issue with men at atheist events hounding the women there, and any female figures. The coffee/elevator issue was an example about how after she spent a whole day talking about how she is drowning in unwanted advances and how it would be useful for guys to realise that atheist conventions are not dating conventions, only to ha… | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 01:05 PM |
| 4 | I believe this is somewhat related to this sub, especially with the excessive pollution of modern new age tumblr feminism.The first posts were fine, and didn't make much of an issue about it. And then the internet exploded, taking everything she said way too seriously. It was Richard Dawkins who was comparing it to oppressed women's rights. Of course it ended up inflating. I don't condone her reaction and inflation, but she didn't exactly start it. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 12:57 PM |
| 8 | I believe this is somewhat related to this sub, especially with the excessive pollution of modern new age tumblr feminism.But to just keep blaming "feminists" for everything and talking about disliking any woman who calls herself a feminist is like treating all Christians like the Westboro Baptist Church. Just because someone casually uses the term doesn't mean that they subscribe to the most hateful ideals. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/13 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Why can't there be a Council on Men and Boys?There is in New Hampshire! | /r/MensRights | 21/01/13 03:51 AM |
| 3 | "The idea that women dislike being financially dependent on men is a myth, with more choosing to 'marry up' now than did so in the 1940s" according to Dr Catherine Hakim from the London School of EconSome how I think that the average housewife spends more than that on her own personal non household needs out of the joint account each month. Real scientific there. If I offered a professional cleaner a contract where I would pay their rent, utilities, grocery, and trasportation costs in exchange for keeping my home clean. They would do back-flips to sign up. Never heard of an au pair, or live in nannies and whatnot? Those jobs exist, and pay rather well. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/13 10:00 PM |
| 2 | Study: Women prefer taken menHas anyone studied how men react to this? I'm curious. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/13 09:57 PM |
| 2 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."Aw, personal attacks! Thanks for admitting you have no real argument. (Also, if you think I'm a feminazi, you haven't been around here for too long.) I merely extended your argument to show how ridiculous it is. If unwanted sexual advances are compliments, where do you personally draw the line? Because genuine complimentary respectful flirtation has as little to do with aggressive sexual harassment as sex does with rape. You are stubbornly pretending that getting hit on is all about complimentar… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/13 02:15 AM |
| 2 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."Ah yes, because being aggressively sexually harassed is such a compliment, and has everything to do with the person thinking we're worthwhile to talk to. Do you similarly think that male rape victims are lucky, because someone found them so attractive and so worthwhile? | /r/MensRights | 16/01/13 03:18 PM |
| 3 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."Getting hit on can get old, but that's nothing like the other side. You don't know what the other side is like. You can't make that claim. Men are dying of thirst in a desert, and women are drowning in an ocean of salt water. Neither one is good, neither is definitively worse. Most guys are terrified every time they approach. One rejection can ruin a guys day. You just can't compare one with the other. Actually, I can. I have always approached, a lot. I've gotten rejected, a lot. It ruins our da… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/13 01:07 AM |
| 4 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."The point is that doesn't work, an unfortunate amount of the time. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:27 PM |
| 1 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."It's not about a guy hitting on you in the first place (though if you think all approaches are compliments, you're misinformed). The picture is about someone persisting and ignoring your rejection. It's not an issue of male privilege. But yes, it is a difference of attraction or not. Once you reject someone, if they keep persisting, it shows a complete lack of respect and tact. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:26 PM |
| 2 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."Brad Pitt gets hit on. I have attractive male friends, they get hit on regularly. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:24 PM |
| 1 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."Oh it definitely happens. There are plenty of assholes out there, it doesn't mean being desperate. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:24 PM |
| 7 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."Some people literally don't believe homosexuality is something humans are capable of naturally That is homophobia. | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:23 PM |
| 5 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."And women who aren't conventionally attractive also are really lonely and don't get asked out or laid. It's not a one-way street. (Neither is being pursued aggressively, contrary to the idea the picture is trying to claim.) | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:21 PM |
| 14 | It must seem like a really evil world out there when you interpret every behavior as a product of "male privilege."It's not always a paranoia thing. A man on his own can be a neutral unknown. A man in the company of a woman has a positive point in the not-a-creep category. Just because something is a positive doesn't mean that its lack is an automatic negative. It's like, if I see someone out walking their dog, I'm going to be more open to them, because they have a dog they're making happy and that says good things to me. It doesn't mean I assume that every person who is not actively walking a dog is an anim… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/13 11:19 PM |
| 8 | Askreddit thread asks "what's the worst thing you've ever been accused of?". Thread EXPLODES with false rape allegations.Completely agreed. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/13 11:30 PM |
| 7 | Askreddit thread asks "what's the worst thing you've ever been accused of?". Thread EXPLODES with false rape allegations.The closest one was the girl who was raped by someone else, but thought it was the redditor she then accidentally falsely accused. Which sucks for everyone involved. If you wake up raped, and remember someone helping you to bed (but not the rape part), then I can't exactly blame her for her mistake. It's why the justice system is there. He would be a reasonable suspect, honestly. And then investigation would show it wasn't him. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/13 11:13 PM |
| 5 | She actually went and killed my pets. Still no recourse.Most psychopaths out in society are really good at hiding who they are, though. That's the unfortunate thing. The ones who aren't, end up in jail pretty quickly. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/13 04:45 AM |
| 1 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?Actually, it's only $1200 a year at most, but that's when you include the doctor's visits as well. Assuming the absolute most expensive, it's $27840 for a lifetime, without insurance. Granted, that's a bit more expensive than a complication-free birth, but again, that's still not including pre- and postnatal care. But most don't cost that much anyways, and that's at the consumer level with profit margins, not wholesale. And yes, that makes a huge difference. My university gave us birth control a… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/13 04:44 AM |
| 2 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?But you can't impair free religious association in the US, and the law has been ruled to do that three times in the last week. I disagree with that interpretation of the law. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to impose your religion on others. No one is making anyone take birth control. But just like your boss can't refuse to cover blood transfusions if he's a Jehovah's Witness, there is no reason a boss should be able to refuse you birth control. But I mean, yeah, I'd love to just get r… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/13 04:31 AM |
| 1 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?When cost is no longer an issue, 75% of women choose an implanted, long-term birth control, like the hormonal arm implant or an IUD. I've linked that article elsewhere in the thread. Those forms have less than one percent fail rate, even in the real world. As opposed to 18% for condoms, and 9% for most other hormonal contraceptives. Forty percent of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. That unplanned rate drops dramatically when birth control is freely accessible. One normal, healthy birth in a … | /r/MensRights | 02/01/13 04:27 AM |
| 1 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?I'd support a law requiring the coverage of IUDs before I supported a law requiring the coverage of the pill. There's less hypocrisy in that. They are covered by the same law. Also, why does everyone here assume that women on birth control aren't also using condoms? Maybe in a long-term monogamous relationship, but most people use both. Hell, most women on birth control are on birth control whether they're having sex at that time or not; I've been on the Ring for seven years, and have stayed on … | /r/MensRights | 02/01/13 04:22 AM |
| 1 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?That's actually incorrect, when looking at only what's covered by the insurance company. You can't throw in food, clothing or housing because the insurance company doesn't cover that either. Births are covered by insurance. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/13 01:38 AM |
| 4 | Craigslist sperm donor forced to pay child support to lesbian couple despite giving up parental rights.It's not amusing. Bisexuals exist. It means absolutely nothing. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:21 PM |
| 2 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?Doctors do not prescribe birth control pills so people don't have to use condoms! That is not how medicine works! So stop saying that's why people are using them! Birth control is prescribed for a ton of different reasons. Stop pitching a fit about what some people might do with it! It's none of your business. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:21 PM |
| 2 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?Those better contraceptives are also being covered by this, and way more women choose them when they can. Everything that can prevent pregnancy should be free to get, in my opinion. But this isn't even free, the woman is already paying for insurance, so she's already paying for it. And yes, condoms are free, go to your local health department. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:20 PM |
| 1 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?It covers all of it, including IUDs, not just the pill. And when price was no issue, 75% of women chose implanted methods, and the abortion rate plummeted. The pill is acceptable because not everyone can get an implanted method, and it's still far better than condoms. But way more people do get the even more effective options when it doesn't cost them hundreds of dollars to do it. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:18 PM |
| 5 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?That costs the insured. Yepp. That's the point of insurance--you're paying a fee into a pool every month, so that the insurance company can cover everyone's medical needs. You're also paying for other people's diabetes medications, and quit-smoking aids, and broken limbs, and so on and so on. And they're paying for you. You're all paying for your own care, and everyone else's. These women aren't getting free insurance. They're already paying for the insurance. Also costs the taxpayer as the insu… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:15 PM |
| 6 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?So, insurance companies should stop covering quit-smoking medications, and most allergy medications, and so on, then. Why should I pay for birth control pills so people don't have to use condoms? Because they're paying for your medical needs. I think you're a naive asshole, but I don't get to take away your medical coverage because of it. She's paying for insurance. She's paying for her own birth control. I don't like people feeling they're entitled to condom-free, pregnancy-free sex. Bully for … | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:12 PM |
| 2 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?Condoms are distinctly less effective than birth control. 18% real world fail rate, versus 9% for hormones, and less than one percent for implants, IUDs, and tubal ligation. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:09 PM |
| 3 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?That's exactly why--because it's hypocritical. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:07 PM |
| 1 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?But the government isn't paying for this. Her insurance that she pays for would pay for it. Unless you really think there are insurance plans that cost nothing, she is paying for it. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:06 PM |
| 18 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?Free condoms are everywhere. Go to your local health department, they'll give you some. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:05 PM |
| 8 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?A, it's not taxpayer funded. The insurance plan that the woman is already paying for will pay for it, just like it pays for any other medical need. B, I don't smoke. If I choose not to smoke, why should I pay for the externalities of other people smoking? I've never broken a bone, either. I don't have diabetes. I'll never use Viagra, because I'm a woman. Should I go on about all the medical things my insurance covers for other people that I'll never use? | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:04 PM |
| 11 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?But then where do you draw the line for what is medical "enough"? Just cover it for everyone. There is literally no reason not to, because it is massively cheaper to cover even expensive birth control for a woman's entire life than to pay for just one birth (and a normal birth at that, not even one with complications), and that's before you even consider the prenatal and postnatal care. You don't like people having sex? I don't like smokers. But my insurance still pays for people to get treatmen… | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 04:01 PM |
| 4 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?Well, this should make you feel better: the government isn't funding it. No taxpayer money is going to this. The insurance which the woman is already paying for just is not going to charge her additional fees for her birth control. So it's "free" in the sense that you can get a free tow covered by your car insurance, that you pay $300 a month for. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 03:59 PM |
| 6 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?And those birth control pills for $9 are not compatible with the woman and cause terrible side effects, so her doctor prescribes her a low-dose form that costs $45 a month. You may think that's nothing; you're obviously not poor. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 03:58 PM |
| 2 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?Using real world fail rates, condoms are twice as bad as hormonal birth control. That's pretty significant. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 03:56 PM |
| 48 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?IT IS NOT TAXPAYER FUNDED BIRTH CONTROL. NO GOVERNMENT MONEY IS FUNDING THIS. PLEASE STOP SPREADING INACCURATE INFORMATION. Sorry, but I needed to yell, because so many people think it's taxpayer money, it's not. It's just the government regulating a service. The women are still paying for their birth control, because they are paying for their insurance. No one else is paying for it but these women themselves. They just aren't being forced to pay additional fees for it. The government is making … | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 03:54 PM |
| 1 | ... And I pay for condoms, will feminism buy me those?You are obviously unaware of the costs of birth control. Or the fact that because it is a hormonal blend, a woman can't just go get a generic, because it can have horrible side effects. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Craigslist sperm donor forced to pay child support to lesbian couple despite giving up parental rights.Ah yes, because saying black person instead of nigger and gay man instead of fag and lesbian instead of dyke just soooo non-communicative. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 07:23 AM |
| 7 | Craigslist sperm donor forced to pay child support to lesbian couple despite giving up parental rights.Both of them are, apparently, just only the one was interviewed about it. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 07:20 AM |
| 2 | Craigslist sperm donor forced to pay child support to lesbian couple despite giving up parental rights....for state medical aid for care for their sick child, after one of the mothers also had a health crisis and wasn't able to work anymore. After years and raising eight other adopted children just fine. Anyone can get knocked on their ass by healthcare costs in this ridiculous country. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 07:20 AM |
| 6 | Craigslist sperm donor forced to pay child support to lesbian couple despite giving up parental rights.Because of the implication that the women were incompetent, or oppressing anyone. They were perfectly fine, even with a sick child, until one of the mothers got sick and couldn't work. Then they couldn't afford the bills anymore. That can happen to anyone, and there was no oppression involved by women. | /r/MensRights | 01/01/13 07:18 AM |
| 2 | Are we supposed to rewrite books now too? " The Hobbit: Why Are There No Women in Tolkien’s World? "Yeah. We see some lady hobbits in Hobbiton; what more is needed? | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Are we supposed to rewrite books now too? " The Hobbit: Why Are There No Women in Tolkien’s World? "Prophecy is important in the lore. Because it was foretold that he would be killed by no man, it did mean that he could not be killed by a man. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 11:19 PM |
| -2 | Are we supposed to rewrite books now too? " The Hobbit: Why Are There No Women in Tolkien’s World? "When something isn't written yet, there's nothing wrong with petitioning for a female character. There is a huge lack of female lead characters in mass media. Trying to change things that are already written, however, is absurd. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 11:17 PM |
| 4 | Are we supposed to rewrite books now too? " The Hobbit: Why Are There No Women in Tolkien’s World? "That's how everyone always interpreted it. In truth, it was just that Eowyn was fated to do it. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 11:16 PM |
| 14 | Are we supposed to rewrite books now too? " The Hobbit: Why Are There No Women in Tolkien’s World? "Yeah. Eowyn is a brilliant tribute to the women who fought beside their men despite the easy way out. There's no reason to eschew historical accuracy as the author of the article so desires--especially since they seem to be so unaware of the time period in which LotR and The Hobbit were written. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 11:15 PM |
| 9 | Craigslist sperm donor forced to pay child support to lesbian couple despite giving up parental rights.Ah yes, because people who use Craigslist to find a sperm donor are the kinds of people whom one would assume know the laws surrounding sperm donors pretty well. Uh huh. Did you ignore the part where they didn't list him on the birth certificate? The kid got sick; the state was going to rescind medical care if the father's name wasn't given. This is a lesbian couple who have adopted eight other children in need and fostered plenty of others, before having a biological one. And they were doing fi… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/12 11:08 PM |
| 1 | [Study] Confirmation Bias and the Sexual Double StandardWell yes, there is confirmation bias. But that doesn't disprove any double standards, it just says we may exaggerate them in our memory. It can still exist, and it still affects behaviour (by which I mean, women still face the pressure of the double standard because it is so socially ingrained to do so, even if that double standard isn't as bad as they've been told). | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 03:10 AM |
| 11 | against the grain in /r/funnyThe thing is, sex shouldn't be a trade, in a relationship. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 03:07 AM |
| 2 | Swaziland bans "Rape-provoking" miniskirts, implies men can not control their actions. (X-post from r/worldnews)Actually, statistics on the clothing worn by rape victims shows that women who are provocatively dressed are the least likely to be raped; a tee shirt and jeans is the most common outfit. Interviews with rapists have demonstrated that clothing was not a factor in their choice. And if all eyes are on the girl with the miniskirt, well--it's awfully hard to rape the center of attention, isn't it? | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 03:02 AM |
| 6 | Swaziland bans "Rape-provoking" miniskirts, implies men can not control their actions. (X-post from r/worldnews)that practiced walk where the sashey just a bit Are you unaware of the fact that the skeletal shape of a woman's hips biologically causes her to walk differently than a man does? Oh of course you are, you giant sexist idiot. :) | /r/MensRights | 29/12/12 02:57 AM |
| 2 | Double standards in sportsBut this isn't about the professional level. It's just kids playing. You need gender-split teams for it to be equitable. But if there are exceptions like in the OP, then the gender split should be fluid. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/12 03:57 AM |
| 1 | How can I make this about meeeeeee?I already said I'm not going to argue the position because I think it is ridiculously useless to argue about what's worse. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/12 10:49 PM |
| 4 | How can I make this about meeeeeee?It was said by the First Lady, at a domestic violence conference in a foreign country. She wasn't the Secretary of State. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/12 04:14 AM |
| 2 | How can I make this about meeeeeee?If you look at it from a perspective of suffering, the dead aren't suffering. The living, those left behind, are. That said, I don't believe in the oppression olympics. War is terrible for everyone. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/12 04:13 AM |
| -1 | How can I make this about meeeeeee?So you looked at 250 out 100,000 and decided that must represent the whole? That one quarter of one percent? | /r/MensRights | 13/12/12 04:11 AM |
| 9 | Women are the victim, no matter who the victim is!So should I be offended if, when wearing heels, I get told that I look tall? Because I'm not actually tall? Or if someone hyperbolizes and calls you a genius, but your IQ isn't actually genius level, you would be offended? People get offended when they are insulted. Things like "like a girl" and "gay" and "retarded" are used as insults. The person calling you X is intending it as a negative. That's why it's offensive both as an insult, and as a concept. | /r/MensRights | 06/12/12 04:08 AM |
| -2 | Article: Short guys finish last, how men who happen to be short are continually discriminated against because of their height, and how it is completely ignored in society.No, not myself. I said I haven't met many men shorter than me, but I love short guys. I specifically used OKC to search for men 5'7" and under, which led me to the guy I'm seeing now. But the other half of my point is that most women are much shorter than most men. Only 2 out of 79 sounds terrible, but then think about it. For an average woman unwilling to date a man shorter than she is, she's only eliminating three percent of men. Another thing to keep in mind is how many men are willing to dat… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 10:49 PM |
| 0 | Article: Short guys finish last, how men who happen to be short are continually discriminated against because of their height, and how it is completely ignored in society.I don't really agree with that small of a number, but the point is that most soc studies aren't adequately chosen, they're just undergrads. | /r/MensRights | 24/11/12 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Article: Short guys finish last, how men who happen to be short are continually discriminated against because of their height, and how it is completely ignored in society.Eh, 79 isn't a huge sample size, and a lot of them tend to use undergraduates at universities. Also remember that the average height for a woman is 5'4", and less than 3% of American men are shorter than 5'4". For most women, the vast majority of men, including "short" men, are taller than they are. It comes up all the time in /AskWomen, where girls say "Yeah, I want a guy who's taller than me, but I'm 5'2" and have never met a guy shorter than I am, so." Even as 5'4" girl myself, I can only thi… | /r/MensRights | 23/11/12 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Jenny McCarthy grabs Justin Bieber's ass and kisses him on the neck without consent. Can you imagine the reaction if a 40-year-old man had done this to an 18-year-old girl?But you didn't prove that feminists think it's okay for women to do stuff like that. Posting a picture of women doing something doesn't mean that feminists think it's okay to do. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 10:25 PM |
| 3 | Jenny McCarthy grabs Justin Bieber's ass and kisses him on the neck without consent. Can you imagine the reaction if a 40-year-old man had done this to an 18-year-old girl?Nope. More like, by my logic, not all white people are racists just because some white people are in the KKK. Or do you seriously think that all women are twilight moms? | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 08:55 PM |
| 2 | Jenny McCarthy grabs Justin Bieber's ass and kisses him on the neck without consent. Can you imagine the reaction if a 40-year-old man had done this to an 18-year-old girl?nope, it's creepy in both directions. If you want to talk about how the media portrays it, that's another story, but it's not "feminism" supporting it. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Jenny McCarthy grabs Justin Bieber's ass and kisses him on the neck without consent. Can you imagine the reaction if a 40-year-old man had done this to an 18-year-old girl?It shows that some women have no issues with it and are creepy. Just like /creepshots shows some men are creepy. Doesn't mean that "women" as a whole have no issues with it. Porn is everywhere. Oh boy what, exactly? | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 07:23 PM |
| 4 | I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic)If you don't, I might. It's a really fascinating idea. I've always really enjoyed romances where the woman takes an active role for a change (I almost said I prefer them, but there are good more 'traditional' tales too, so I dunno if I'd go so far as to say it's always better). I can pretty easily come up with some decent things where the woman is active, but actually going to the point of rescuing or saving him, that's a bit more extreme. It'd be interesting to note whether the saving is just h… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/12 02:43 PM |
| 12 | I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic)Yeah, I agree. Vast majority of men are abusive and selfishly sex-obsessed. It's a lesson in life almost every woman has to learn. Might as well start early. Sexism is bad in both direction. Don't perpetuate it. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/12 02:36 PM |
| 9 | I think young men should grow up exposed to stories like this (Comic)Great comment, until the last line. Just because there are bitches out there doesn't mean all women are terrible and don't change. Unless you want to compare Henry VIII and, I dunno, Donald Trumpe or some other modern guy who goes through a lot of wives, and say that men are pigs and haven't changed. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/12 02:34 PM |
| 0 | "There Was a War on Women, and the Women Won"Oh totally. That's why I'm here. :-p Financial abortion, equal custody, domestic violence, male health, etc. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/12 08:00 PM |
| 4 | "There Was a War on Women, and the Women Won"Ah, understandable misreading then, yes. Men's rights should be about men, yes. There are women things that any sane MRA should support in my opinion, but that doesn't mean they need to campaign for them; that's what feminism is for. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/12 07:50 PM |
| -1 | "There Was a War on Women, and the Women Won"I just can't understand why a politician is being asked about women who get pregnant after being raped. I don't care if what he said was stupid, what I care about is that the USA and most of the west is going bankrupt, young people have almost no future, and our leading politicians are being asked about imaginary victims of what must be a vanishingly rare crime outcome. Not really. And he was asked because abortion and birth control have been hot topics in this election. You may not care that it… | /r/MensRights | 08/11/12 07:33 PM |
| -1 | "There Was a War on Women, and the Women Won"Someone else posted an article about women in here. Heaven forbid someone talk about women, in the comments section of an article about women. If you want to bitch about concern trolling, bitch at the OP. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/12 07:32 PM |
| 2 | There have been too many love children born of a condom that, oops, had a hole poked in it to make that "mistake." "You'd be amazed," says a former Fly Girl I met in Houston, "how many women I know who actually do that. Because let's face it, if you get pregnant, your life is made."The rapists I have been exposed to (including my own) were guys who picked up girls really easily and got laid all the time. It was like they didn't comprehend that someone would/could say no to them and mean it. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/12 08:43 PM |
| 1 | There have been too many love children born of a condom that, oops, had a hole poked in it to make that "mistake." "You'd be amazed," says a former Fly Girl I met in Houston, "how many women I know who actually do that. Because let's face it, if you get pregnant, your life is made."I guess it depends on sample. I know it happens, but seeing as I mainly associate with poor young educated people who are trying to establish careers, getting pregnant is pretty much every woman I know's worst nightmare. | /r/MensRights | 05/11/12 08:41 PM |
| 4 | /pol/ Rape Analogy (X-Post /r/4chan)You can try to talk about false rape accusation without mocking actual rape issues. Also, it's better if you use the real reasons for why people tend to cry rape after a drunken hookup (feeling shame because they thought they were "better" than a drunk hookup, or because they cheated on their SO, or fear of reprisal from parents) rather than a snippy jibe about attractiveness. Make a message that actually speaks, rather than one that will just make the choir smug but piss off anyone who might ha… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/12 07:34 PM |
| 1 | /pol/ Rape Analogy (X-Post /r/4chan)It needs a better analogy that doesn't mock a different, good analogy (that is becoming less relevant with time, but). | /r/MensRights | 04/11/12 07:30 PM |
| 5 | /pol/ Rape Analogy (X-Post /r/4chan)Everything. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/12 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Posted by a girl friend of mine, nice to see that some girls can see both sides.Nope, my facebook has been in pirate for years. Years. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/12 05:53 PM |
| 3 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedHa. I'm a few cup sizes too big for Victoria's Secret because they stop at DD and so anyone who's actually busty won't fit into anything there either, but thanks for those assumptions there that women must shop there. Especially for businesswear, that store full of bras and sweatpants is totally where people would go. Anyone who's busty won't fit into any of those button down shirts, and anything fitted that isn't stretch material isn't going to fit over the bust either, without being several si… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/12 04:16 PM |
| 1 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedActually, one of the big problems is that mostly gay men are designing clothing, and even when they're not, no one wants to admit that women come in an absurd variety of shapes. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/12 03:33 PM |
| 5 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedIf you're not a perfectly mediocre average, good luck finding clothes, for either gender. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 08:03 PM |
| 2 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedI've seen dudes with moobs being shirtless just fine. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:30 PM |
| 3 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedThe male chest is only not sexualised by straight men. The point is that breasts are unnecessarily sexualised, and thus taboo. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:30 PM |
| 6 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedSays you. A nice manly chest is just as sexy as a nice pair of boobs. Boobs are not sexual organs, they are secondary sex characteristics that men can and do grow, too. They're just like beards. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:29 PM |
| 7 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedWhere. Source. Anything. I see dudes in Speedos at every beach I've ever been to. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:28 PM |
| 2 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedHmm, so beards should be covered too? Since being a secondary sex characteristic is all it takes? | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:27 PM |
| 8 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedYou aren't more visual, you're just mostly heterosexual. Gay men aren't going to be distracted by cleavage any more than straight women would be (which happens more than you'd think). | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:26 PM |
| 7 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedBecause of outdated standards. It used to be illegal for men to go topless, as well. Ankles used to be shocking. Cultures without boob taboos find it laughable how much we oversex them. It's all about what you think is sexual. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:23 PM |
| 19 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedBut the vulva, and parts that a woman would be arrested for showing (since the vagina is internal), include the urethra. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:22 PM |
| 5 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedActually, it also helps to hide fertility, which is important. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:21 PM |
| 47 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedSome of us can't. Busty girl, I cannot wear a button down shirt unless it's many sizes too big, which looks incredibly unprofessional. We don't make the clothes, we have to choose from what's offered. And it has to fit, or we look sloppy, which isn't office appropriate either. As someone who tries to dress in a more modest fashion, it's way more of a challenge than you think, because clothing manufacturers assume everyone wants cleavage. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:21 PM |
| 2 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedActually, it's wearing a button down shirt and vest with the sleeves rolled up... just in case you were actually curious. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:18 PM |
| 13 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedYeah, there are two sides to every issue. Women are more restricted and yet have more freedom at the same time. I wouldn't say momentary exposures are just fine, though. Remember Janet, and the nationwide uproar? I also wonder where you live. I see shirtless dudes all the time when the weather is warm, and nipples and vagina pretty much never. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:17 PM |
| 5 | I'd like to try this without getting arrestedEh, I dunno if that's normal. I can tell you most of my male friends' preferences, I know loads of guys who openly check out and talk about women and talk about sex and whatnot. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Sexist tissuesWell, I'm going by the dictionary, heh. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/12 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Sexist tissuesIt isn't. The guy saying "Ew, I can't use these tissues, they have flowers on them and flowers are for girls" is sexist. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/12 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Sexist tissuesYes. But the comic is sexist. Having a "feminine" design doesn't mean it's not for men to use. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/12 10:32 PM |
| 5 | 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partnersIt definitely needs more research. It also depends on what you consider "better" to be, too; if more women than men are capable of doing it, but the few men go faster, who's really better? And is height taken into account for relative speed? Et cetera. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/12 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Sexist tissuesSexism isn't just about superiority. It's prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination based on sex. So to say "Tissues in pink boxes are for girls, because pink is for girls" is sexist, because it's stereotyping and discriminatory (anybody can like pink, damnit). | /r/MensRights | 02/11/12 09:15 PM |
| 5 | 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partnersThere are things that women are better at; some linguistic stuff, ultra long distance running (unlike pretty much every other kind of running), and so on. Curious about your cooking claim, though. But yes, it's entirely derailing. Being better at being violent doesn't mean you are more violent. | /r/MensRights | 02/11/12 09:09 PM |
| 4 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.There are a lot more potential serious complications than just death. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 02:32 AM |
| 3 | Ohio girl suspended for long hair... oh, no, wait. Girls can have long hair. Ohio BOY suspended...It depends on the school. At my high school, almost all of the rules were for the girls. I've certainly heard of plenty of private Catholic schools where the girls had to raise a ruckus to be allowed to wear pants instead of skirts in the winter time. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:59 PM |
| 2 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Well, you can be for child support laws, you just have to support an opt-out during the same period where abortion would be allowed. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:57 PM |
| 14 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.The thing is, nine months of pregnancy isn't an "only" situation, it's a huge medical risk. But 18 years of child support isn't "only money", either. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:55 PM |
| 4 | Got rejected for rejecting a person I wasn't attracted to.Yupp. Or, even more ludicrous, being called a slut or whore for turning down some dude's advances. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Got rejected for rejecting a person I wasn't attracted to.It's not a "feminist" thing, though. I've heard plenty of people who love hair blabbering about how anyone who shaves or waxes looks like a little kid and they feel like a pedophile, regardless of political stance. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Baby Dies From Blunt Force Trauma; Woman Only Serves 77 DaysWomen have been murderers for as long as men have. There's no change. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/12 08:03 PM |
| 1 | As a man, I can't understand what it's like to be hit on all the timeDrowning really isn't better than dying of dehydration. | /r/MensRights | 23/10/12 07:55 PM |
| 5 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.Never assume evil intent when simple incompetence will do. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 05:16 PM |
| 6 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.Now on that part of it, we're completely in agreement. Innocence would probably not be assumed, because sexism. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 04:05 PM |
| 2 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.Have you ever seen a school actually educate its teachers on technology? Half of them couldn't run the new projectors we got when I was in high school, because the school just rolled them out and didn't bother to tell the teachers how they worked. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.What does teaching have to do with knowing how to use Apple devices? They have nothing in common. You can not understand how photo synching works quite easily, if you're unfamiliar with devices. I know a lot of people, even relatively technically competent people, who didn't realise that G+ automatically shared all pictures if you synched it with your phone. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 03:06 PM |
| 0 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.I highly doubt she knew it was on there. Too many people don't understand synching. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 02:54 PM |
| 6 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.Her reaction makes sense, if she doesn't understand automatic synching (which a lot of people don't). But the school's reaction is reprehensible. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 02:49 PM |
| 58 | Female teacher puts topless photo on school property, and boys who view it got punished.Her reaction makes sense if she a) doesn't understand synching and then b) genuinely thought that the boys stole the picture off of her phone. It's not an unlikely scenario. However, it should have been sorted out, and not led to suspension. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/12 02:48 PM |
| -1 | 3 Things Women Should Stop Apologizing ForHeh, thanks. Yeah. I happened to react to being raised by a bipolar mother and melodramatically depressive father by becoming one of the most level-headed people to ever live, apparently. And I definitely learned things to avoid from their mistakes. I'm already older than both my parents were when they were my parents. If I were my mom, I'd have two kids and be starting a Girl Scout troop; if I were my dad, I'd be in my second marriage and just have had my first child. Crazy to think about. I'm … | /r/MensRights | 17/10/12 07:34 PM |
| -1 | 3 Things Women Should Stop Apologizing ForNope. Because before then, he bullied her out of her desired career (she wanted to be a K9 officer), and pretty much made her only work part time, because he had to be the successful one. That he had to "let" her get a real job was terrible for him. (My dad was seven years older than her, my mom was barely eighteen and desperate to get out of an abusive home, and he manipulated the shit out of her after he proposed and she got pregnant with me. Of course, later, it became a reciprocally abusive … | /r/MensRights | 17/10/12 06:25 PM |
| -1 | 3 Things Women Should Stop Apologizing ForMy dad was sort of one. He absolutely could not handle it when my mom was the breadwinner while he was unemployed--constantly freaking about not being a man, and how he felt pathetic and useless. It contributed greatly to their getting divorced. Some men are still taught that unless they are absolutely necessary, they're useless. Sometimes it's a superiority thing, sometimes it's an insecurity thing. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/12 05:55 PM |
| 2 | 3 Things Women Should Stop Apologizing ForIt really depends on where you are, and the age range you're a part of. There are some backwards places that still hold onto the incredibly sexist idea that men are fragile creatures who can't handle the idea of a smart woman, so if you act smart or otherwise threaten his seeming superiority you'll be forever alone. Luckily for both sexes that's mostly phasing out. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/12 01:55 PM |
| 13 | Amanda Todd's death? That's Patriarchy!Slut shaming doesn't require agency, and a thriteen year old? Yeah, not much real agency there. | /r/MensRights | 16/10/12 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Going Dutch on DinnerSomeone will always end up taking more than anyone else. I really don't see how you can claim "always" with this. But let's say it's true--unless it's intentional, does it matter? Why are you so concerned with meaninglessly small amounts of money that you're insulting anyone who just prefers to swap? I mean, seriously. You might care, but if I reach the end of a relationship and I spent $15 more on dinners over the three years or however long than my partner did, who fucking cares? Or do you nev… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Going Dutch on DinnerOr, you have grownups who aren't assholes, and it does all even out. If you notice a disparity of "cheating" financially, you bring it up or break up with them. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Going Dutch on DinnerBaseless ad hominem attacks are really unnecessary. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Going Dutch on DinnerWell that's your experience, not the facts for everyone in the world ever. Not every relationship has one person getting stuck with bigger bills. I prefer to just switch back and forth rather than count pennies, even though I end up paying a bit more most of the time because of home cooking and groceries. If it's a big deal to you, whatever, do it that way, but it doesn't make anyone who disagrees with you a golddigger. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 05:02 PM |
| 0 | Going Dutch on Dinner...We're talking about when you're in a relationship or at least with the same person, not serial dating different people. VSS and her manfriend (singular) take turns. My ex-boyfriend and I took turns. Not "I claim I'll pay next time and then never have a second date". Learn to read, or you're an idiot. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Going Dutch on DinnerOr, just do what VerySpecialSnowflake does, and take turns paying the entire bill. I really don't know what there is to be upset about there. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 04:25 PM |
| 2 | my brother wants his son circumsisedIt's actually down to only about a third, now. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 03:36 PM |
| 0 | Going Dutch on DinnerNot every place will allow separate bills. Also: Is there a reason you're being a jerk about this? They swap back and forth, so it's pretty much the same thing. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/12 03:33 PM |
| 3 | If you don't watch porn, shut the fuck up about it.And that's to say nothing of how the increasing power of women in porn has only made a lot of it harsher and less enjoyable for anyone who doesn't like it rough in bed. I find it interesting that double penetration scenes are so much more common now than back in the days when you had to watch porn on an actual film reel. What does that have to do with "increasing power of women in porn"? | /r/MensRights | 08/10/12 04:34 PM |
| 0 | If you don't watch porn, shut the fuck up about it.Well, let's be honest. A lot of it is. I have no problem with porn, but I do have a problem with a lot of mainstream porn. I just can't watch it, because it looks so painful. Especially with how dry everything looks. That's not only uncomfortable at best and painful at worst, it's also really dangerous (dry sex is a big contributing factor to the high HIV rates in Africa). Not to mention all the violent ramming by giant dicks, rapid anal, and the choking blowjobs. God, I absolutely cannot watch … | /r/MensRights | 08/10/12 04:32 PM |
| 2 | A win for human rights: Court rules for man misled about paternityIt does matter. In one case, it can be a matter of shameful blinders, of selfish optimism. It's a lesser deception, if she wasn't sure and just decided to believe it was his. It's still bad, but it's worse to knowingly mislead. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/12 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Why is the possibility of a couple being charged with 'immorality' about the "restriction on women's rights"?Because the police thought the appropriate punishment for the man, at the time, was to blackmail a bit of money out of him, whereas the punishment for the woman was to gang rape her. It's a symptom of how women's rights are repressed over there, and how women are supposed to be much more guarded of themselves than men, lest they "ask" for rape. It's about the police action more than the charge itself--because they're choosing to investigate a rape victim for immorality, with the overtone that it… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/12 03:31 PM |
| 2 | I'm noticing a (possible) new trend.No, creepshots is terrible because those people were unwittingly photographed. There are equivalents to /ladyboners, they just aren't as well-known. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/12 03:23 PM |
| 1 | I'm noticing a (possible) new trend./r/forearmporn is mostly self-submitted stuff, if it's not a famous person, though. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/12 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Almost-Eagle Scout denied award because he is gayBecause gay men are men. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/12 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Almost-Eagle Scout denied award because he is gayTo be fair, Girl Scouts has always been about acceptance whereas Boy Scouts has always involved religion. Girl Scouts does not require you to believe in any form of a higher power, and officially accepts transgendered girls, and even allows male leaders. I just wish they'd realise that the Boy Scouts suck, and they should allow boys to join if they want to. Seriously, the Girl Scouts are so much better. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/12 03:15 PM |
| 0 | TIL: #1 Reason for Divorce = Because I will win"A custom prohibiting or restricting a particular practice or forbidding association with a particular person, place, or thing." A woman out on her own without a man to support her was a taboo thing. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/12 02:21 AM |
| 2 | I saw something in the newspaper that really made me think WTFIt's no different from the people who insist that there are no women on the internet. And that if you dare state that you are a woman, you're obviously just pandering for attention and special status. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/12 01:03 AM |
| 3 | TIL: #1 Reason for Divorce = Because I will winTell that to Saudia Arabia. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/12 12:57 AM |
| 1 | TIL: #1 Reason for Divorce = Because I will winUm, you should learn more about the sixties. It wasn't until the seventies that divorce really exploded as a societal trend. Until women were more educated and better to support themselves, it was still taboo, because they were dependent upon the men. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/12 12:56 AM |
| 0 | TIL: #1 Reason for Divorce = Because I will winThe problem with that is that then, people who just aren't happy with each other can't escape a marriage without doing something bad. | /r/MensRights | 02/10/12 12:52 AM |
| 2 | I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice?She never says she consented, she says she can't remember anything and that she couldn't have legally consented anyways. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 08:17 PM |
| 2 | I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice?She may have been raped, she may not have been. Just because people lose inhibitions doesn't mean everyone is always down to bone. I'm personally unsure as to whether or not I think she should go to the police. If nothing else, they'll tell her whether or not a case can even be made. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 08:05 PM |
| 2 | I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice?She's been taught to know that anything that happens while blacked out means it's rape. And it seems she wasn't out looking for sex, and believes she would have said no. It's entirely possible that she was raped. But no, she can't know she was raped from the story presented. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 07:53 PM |
| 2 | I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice?If she tried to fight him off she would have remembered. That's not how blacking out works. I spent hours vomiting one of the two times I blacked out of the three times I've been drunk, and I don't remember a second of it. She said she was sure they had sex, and she remembers how many drinks she had, amongst other things. How would she not remember that? She knows they had sex because of the aftereffects of sex. Trust me, most girls can tell when they've had sex because it leaves... stuff. And s… | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 07:46 PM |
| 5 | Defending rape and defending the right of a Human Being to a Fair Trial are two completely different things.Yeah. They're trying to do more research into the effects rape has versus consensual sex (I know someone enrolled in a study), but it's difficult. For example, I had some fantastically consensual sex the other night after two months chaste, and got two minor cuts that bled for a while afterwards. Signs of damage doesn't mean it wasn't consensual; similarly, a lack of damage doesn't mean that it was consensual, because the body can have unwilling responses of arousal, both male and female. It's s… | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 07:23 PM |
| 0 | I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice?How does this not say to you that the sex was consensual? Because she can't remember. She may have consented, or she may have said no but been unable to fight him off. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 07:18 PM |
| 8 | This really bothered me, I hope I made a good point. Please critique. [FB]The thing is, the original image isn't about what rights women don't have, but about the women's rights issues that are currently being fought over--and not just the hubbub with Obamacare, but also state issues with forced vaginal ultrasounds, outlawing abortions after certain early dates, making it legal for a doctor to lie about prenatal testing results if he's afraid it would lead to an abortion, etc. Not to mention the way that the fights about birth control are being fought--not just about … | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 07:06 PM |
| 8 | Defending rape and defending the right of a Human Being to a Fair Trial are two completely different things.Um, no. Beyond a reasonable doubt is for all crimes. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 06:59 PM |
| 11 | Defending rape and defending the right of a Human Being to a Fair Trial are two completely different things.Yes, even with a rape kit. That can prove sexual contact without proving rape. | /r/MensRights | 01/10/12 06:58 PM |
| 10 | Men aren't walking penises?Ayup! That was for sure. Especially the diseases thing, and that I was only just protected by my birth control, had only had my Ring in for a week after seven months off it, and he didn't even know I was on it. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/12 06:05 PM |
| 12 | Men aren't walking penises?Any decent person wouldn't. But I have had people argue that you can't expect a man to control himself if you're naked, and that it wasn't really rape, because blah blah blah. I say blah blah blah because the arguments fall apart really fast, but that doesn't stop sexist idiots from using them. And yes, I was deliberately submissive, because that's what I mostly prefer in bed; I don't go totally sub, but I respond positively to it. It's worked just fine with others; I couldn't know ahead of time… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/12 05:40 PM |
| 23 | Men aren't walking penises?I didn't; I could never have proven anything, not even enough to actually lay charges. No witnesses to anything nonconsensual, plenty of witnesses to very consensual flirting and the decision to crash in the same room, etc. Which is appropriate for the legal system--it's unfortunately better that he be free than an innocent man gets locked up for regret sex. And at the time I was young enough to not really understand the importance of setting up the paper trail and history for anyone in the futu… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/12 05:33 PM |
| 35 | Men aren't walking penises?Actually, some have. Marital rape, for example--it used to not be illegal, and being married to someone was considered blanket consent to whatever their hormones made them want, regardless of actual consent. Or, on a less-legal level, the idiots who excuse legitimate date rape as "Well, you invited him to your house, what did you expect? You can't just dangle that in front of a guy." I've had people argue with me about my rape--not very traumatic at all, but still rape. I hooked up with a guy, s… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/12 04:54 PM |
| 2 | "Geek feminism" praises ingenuity of woman who builds home-made rocket to dispose of ex-husband's wedding ring in space. It is only a coincidence that her new partner is a rocket scientist ...It's the daily fail, making big deals out of nothing is what they do. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/12 05:48 PM |
| 0 | Condoms with "GOT CONSENT?"Very true. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/12 03:12 PM |
| 12 | "Geek feminism" praises ingenuity of woman who builds home-made rocket to dispose of ex-husband's wedding ring in space. It is only a coincidence that her new partner is a rocket scientist ...So he suggested it, and maybe taught her how. I don't see why it assumes she couldn't build it. I teach people how to cook sometimes; doesn't mean I make their meals. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/12 02:44 PM |
| 4 | "Geek feminism" praises ingenuity of woman who builds home-made rocket to dispose of ex-husband's wedding ring in space. It is only a coincidence that her new partner is a rocket scientist ...More than likely, her new man built the rocket, seeing as how he's a rocket scientist, but she is being given the credit. Just because he suggested it, and maybe taught her how, doesn't mean she didn't build it. I built a rocket at Space Camp; I was taught how, doesn't mean I didn't build it. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/12 02:43 PM |
| 14 | Condoms with "GOT CONSENT?"I don't think the point is stop Rapists, who are knowingly trying to rape. It's targeted at the people who don't officially get consent before they get started. It's good for everyone--there's no confusion that way. Also, fewer wasted condoms, heh. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/12 02:37 PM |
| 4 | Woman bit off part of boyfriend's tongue to get attentionThat's not accurate. She was laying in the road to get attention. The tongue-biting happened later, when she wanted to get into a cab, and he wouldn't let her, and he says he tried to calm her down with a kiss. They both seem like idiots. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/12 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Perpetuating the stereotype. (x-post from /r/WTF)To that I'll certainly agree. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/12 07:14 PM |
| 2 | Perpetuating the stereotype. (x-post from /r/WTF)There is a difference, though. It's a difference in how to be wary of people. Everyone always hears about how women shouldn't walk around alone, always carry mace, get someone to walk you home or to your car, etc etc etc. The societal view of A Rapist is a crazy man hiding in bushes and dark alleyways. But most real rapists aren't like that. Nor are they random men hanging out with date rape drugs. They're predatory men lurking in bars or parties, looking for an easy target who's quiet and shy a… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/12 01:38 PM |
| 5 | Perpetuating the stereotype. (x-post from /r/WTF)The point of the ad is that most rapists are not people who grab strangers off the street, they're people who ingratiate themselves into others' lives first. | /r/MensRights | 22/09/12 08:32 PM |
| 0 | A serial killer midwife killed over 100 infants in Japan. She was Sentenced to 8 years and only served 4 before being released. [xpost/TIL]Except you're ignoring that the two men involved in the same case got lesser sentences than she did. | /r/MensRights | 22/09/12 08:22 PM |
| 5 | You're saying that if I'm getting it on with a girl and she's not into, I'm a rapist?You really should try to get back in touch with your sense of empathy, because while there are lots of contradictory claims out there, and more than a few misandrist raving lunatics, it doesn't change the fact that rape, when it happens, can be a really terrible thing. It isn't always mentally scarring (I'd know, I had the least traumatizing rape experience maybe ever), but it can be. Yes, there are degrees of rape, but there's no form of rape that you can just say "Oh, well, it wasn't as bad as… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/12 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Why throughout almost every society through out history are men always in charge?Did I say to death? You can subsist on a diet far below what you should be eating. But not many people can just choose to eat only 1000 calories a day and actually manage it. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/12 02:32 AM |
| 0 | To sex or not....You didn't but SuicideBanana did. "A woman can be careless and screw around, but as a man you need to be careful." You asked why he'd be downvoted. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/12 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Why throughout almost every society through out history are men always in charge?When you're talking about history, no, it's because men don't have the babies. Before birth control, women were highly limited in choice. Most people can't be abstinent, just like most people can't voluntarily starve themselves. Women are no exception. But women get knocked up. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/12 04:30 PM |
| 5 | I can summarize the rape debate in two sentencesThe problem is that the debate has been blown out of proportion by both sides. You have people saying "These are ways to reduce your risk of being raped" with idiots going "YOU ARE BLAMING ALL RAPE VICTIMS YOU SICK MONSTER", but you also have people going "YOU DARED TO DRINK ALCOHOL WITH FRIENDS LOL YOU SLUT WHAT DID YOU EXPECT THAT'S ASKING FOR RAPE" or "WELL YOU LET HIM COME HOME WITH YOU HE'S ENTITLED TO HAVE SEX EVEN IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND". Like, I have literally seen a "friend" honestly b… | /r/MensRights | 20/09/12 04:26 PM |
| 14 | To sex or not....Even just sex with someone you care about at all is different from randos. A close friend can still give an incredibly fun, passionate experience unlike what a stranger can muster up. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/12 04:12 PM |
| 1 | To sex or not....Women have to worry about diseases just the same as men, and pregnancy, just in a different way. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/12 04:10 PM |
| 1 | comparison posts like these make me ashamed to be a womanBeing able to cite sources in my arguments is pretty much what I live for, hahaha. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/12 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Sorry dads, your cherished tradition of father-daughter dances are now illegal in Rhode Island, thanks to the complaints of one single mom and the ACLU.What does an LGBT club have to do with anything? You're allowed to be straight in an LGBT club. The problem was that mothers were not allowed to attend the father-daughter dance, even when said daughter didn't have a father. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/12 08:31 PM |
| 2 | Sorry dads, your cherished tradition of father-daughter dances are now illegal in Rhode Island, thanks to the complaints of one single mom and the ACLU.I'm not saying they disallowed mothers from the dance But they did. That was why the complaint was made. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/12 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Sorry dads, your cherished tradition of father-daughter dances are now illegal in Rhode Island, thanks to the complaints of one single mom and the ACLU.That's not what happened at all, and if you read the article you'd know it. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/12 08:29 PM |
| 0 | Sorry dads, your cherished tradition of father-daughter dances are now illegal in Rhode Island, thanks to the complaints of one single mom and the ACLU.Actually, they banned mother-son ballgames, too. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/12 08:27 PM |
| 1 | comparison posts like these make me ashamed to be a womanThis article has some numbers that seem to indicate that performing oral sex on a woman is about two and a half times more likely to transmit HPV than oral sex on men or open-mouth kissing. Of course, this has only been studied in America, where men are mostly cut and do not have a mucous membrane as a significant part of their genitalia anymore. | /r/MensRights | 19/09/12 08:22 PM |
| 1 | comparison posts like these make me ashamed to be a womanBecause it's not entirely factual. Only circumcised penises lack a mucous membrane, first of all. Secondly, open-mouth kissing is also a risk factor. Thirdly, 10.1% of American men and 3.6% of American women have oral HPV. The rate amongst those who have never performed oral sex is under 4%, which means that the risk of catching it from performing oral sex on a woman is only about two and a half times that of just French kissing. Also in that article, only about 1% are infected with the known ca… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/12 08:18 PM |
| 14 | reddit top story: "Woman shoots, beheads her rapist after he threatens her with blackmail". No physical evidence. No witnesses. No "alleged" needed. Clearly that dead man whose severed head was tossed around was evil, or she would not have killed him!Multiple gunshot wounds, including to the genitals. That's intentionally causing pain before death. It's still torture. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/12 04:42 PM |
| 4 | reddit top story: "Woman shoots, beheads her rapist after he threatens her with blackmail". No physical evidence. No witnesses. No "alleged" needed. Clearly that dead man whose severed head was tossed around was evil, or she would not have killed him!The story doesn't make it clear whether the rapes started happening before or after the photos. There are unfortunate numbers of stories where rapists photograph or even video their victims. He could have done that, and blackmailed her into continued rape. That said, her response is still morally abhorrent, even if everything about her story is true. I could only even begin to justify revenge of that nature if the guy was a serial torture-rapist who got her and her children or something, and eve… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/12 04:19 PM |
| 23 | reddit top story: "Woman shoots, beheads her rapist after he threatens her with blackmail". No physical evidence. No witnesses. No "alleged" needed. Clearly that dead man whose severed head was tossed around was evil, or she would not have killed him!Yeah. Even if her entire story is true, who would be okay with setting torture and mutilation as the legal punishment for rape? | /r/MensRights | 06/09/12 04:15 PM |
| -1 | From a woman's point of viewYou obviously don't know much about early Christianity. Women weren't seen as something to be defiled, they were even more lustful and sinful than men, and the presence of their beauty was seen as defiling men because it would cause them to have impure thoughts. Women's sexuality was the big evil villain back then. The whole "women are delicate pure angels" bollocks didn't really arise until the 1700s, with a few saintly exceptions. Women as a whole were very much seen as the temptresses that ho… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/12 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Majority of sexual assaults and rapes committed in military in 2011 were against menJust because someone can "gain" by lying (and if you think that reporting rape in the military gets you any benefits, you really need to do more research) doesn't mean that it must happen a majority of the time, or even particularly often. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/12 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Are Rapists fundamentally different from average people?If there's one thing that other cultures and history teach, it's that just about anyone can be any sort of "criminal" we deplore now, if they're taught that it's not a bad thing. People are very pliable, and if your youth is spent being taught that something is okay, you're likely going to think that's... okay! Even though a person from a more "advanced" society would find it despicable. But most people are not fundamentally rapists, and unless taught to be so, would not rape given the right sit… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/12 07:17 PM |
| 0 | From a woman's point of viewThey were still treated as less, though. Just because slavery was eradicated didn't mean that racism was erased, for example. A step forward for women still left them very much in men's shadow, in early Christianity. They were still lesser, not just "different". | /r/MensRights | 05/09/12 07:09 PM |
| 1 | From a woman's point of viewIt wasn't one-sided. Misogyny was one among many evils, but they were definitely misogynistic in general, not just about sexuality, so it's one of those cases where yes, the women were treated worse than men. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/12 07:08 PM |
| -1 | Cost/ Benefit in regards to a relationshipThe thing is, drug dealers are a section of people who choose to indulge in a habit, and you are judging them off their actions. Women don't choose to be women, and are half of the human race. To choose to avoid the bar scene, or to avoid single mothers in places where you can be made to pay child support... but to avoid all women is no different than a woman treating all men as potential rapists. It still makes you a sexist. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 06:14 PM |
| -2 | Cost/ Benefit in regards to a relationshipThinking the risk is so great that you no longer want to be involved with them is pretty sexist and hateful. It's like a radfem insisting that every relationship will lead to rape. It happens, and it's a risk, but it's not a fear you should be building your life around. The problem is that society tends to support women when they want to screw a man over, in a lot of places. Not everywhere, but in a lot of America. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 05:39 PM |
| 3 | Ancient people did not engage in Bonobo-like sex after all, says scientific review of "Sex at Dawn"I'll copy over what I said before: Wow, this is one of the worst and most inaccurate critiques of a book I've ever seen. Of course, not only does promiscuous mating not allow for the evolution of human social structure as observed across human populations, it also does not allow for the evolution of the equally cross-culturally ubiquitous trait of (comparatively) intensive paternal investment. While Dawn assumes that sharing sexual partners would somehow also entail sharing paternal responsibili… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Ancient people did not engage in Bonobo-like sex after all, says scientific review of "Sex at Dawn"Far larger than gorillas, actually. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 05:31 PM |
| 5 | Ancient people did not engage in Bonobo-like sex after all, says scientific review of "Sex at Dawn"10% is only in some cultures. Plenty of others show only 2%. Not to mention you're ignoring male choice. There are plenty of men who won't sleep with anything that asks. And plenty of women who pursue and get turned down, even attractive women. Women as the "gatekeepers" is outdated, and only applies to scenarios where women don't ever make the first move. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 05:30 PM |
| 3 | "Men should be offended" (x-post from r/feminisms) I whole-heartedly agree.First of all, there's no correlation between slutty clothing and rape. So it's a bad analogy. Secondly, everyone's version of slutty is different, and that's what's even more harmful about it, because there is no line. Especially if a woman happens to be naturally endowed, anything she wears can be seen as slutty. I've been slutshamed for turtlenecks. And thirdly, everyone's argument always hinges on "Well I wouldn't wear fancy clothes and flash money in a bad neighborhood"--but women are told, … | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 02:25 PM |
| 8 | "Damsel in distress" at my gym keeps trying to get me to white knight for her. Do guys really fall for this?No one's saying he had to. But he seems oblivious to that option, and is upset about her playing damsel in distress and insulting her for being manipulative when she was probably making a pass, not trying to get him to white knight. There's nothing wrong with him turning her down, but his attitude and assumptions are pretty lame. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 08:20 PM |
| 1 | So, I was talking to a friend about to turn 18, when this exchange happened.Yes, I know. But you could change the policies. Archaic policies. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 02:43 PM |
| 2 | So, I was talking to a friend about to turn 18, when this exchange happened.Actually, women and many feminists have been fighting to get onto the front lines for decades. It wasn't until the forties that women were officially allowed into the military at all, and every step forward has been a huge fight. Women still are not allowed to be on the front lines. It's a pretty damn big issue for the military. So how about you, I dunno, know anything about what you're ranting about before you make yourself look that ignorant? | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 01:46 PM |
| 2 | So, I was talking to a friend about to turn 18, when this exchange happened.Because with modern warfare, it isn't all about brute strength. Women could easily be drafted to be pilots, for example. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 01:44 PM |
| 7 | Just quick threw this together. Thought this sub might appreciate it.That's part of the point, though. Men suffered, too. It wasn't white male privilege, it was rich white male privilege. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 02:16 AM |
| 3 | Just quick threw this together. Thought this sub might appreciate it.Maybe that's part of why I've never understood the denial of women in dangerous jobs; I'm a native New Englander. The mills are so deeply embedded into our history. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Oh wait, we have that world now (in the US). In the US, if the woman is able to be on hormonal birth control and can afford it. This analogy is too flawed to be given serious consideration. Please, explain the flaws. Having sex is like signing up for the registry. You know you might get pregnant, or you might get matched. Why is it only when having sex that you're forced to keep the other live, and not when you find a match? Both things have you risk your life for another, and violate your body … | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.That fetus will, if left alone, develop into a full human being. Nope. If left alone, it would die. Because to be alone, it would have to be outside the human woman carrying it. Killing a child with neglect is wrong. But you can give a child away. You can even dump an infant at a hospital or firehouse. A woman can't give a fetus away. Until she can, her rights to her body come first. End of story. Bodily autonomy. When artificial wombs are developed, then abortion can be made illegal, because sh… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 03:53 PM |
| 0 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.That's not a limited opt-out. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Yeah, idk how well that would work for random hook-ups and one night stands. If you're dramatically against abortion, you probably shouldn't be hooking up randomly. But those would be cases that might have to be decided in a court; if she claims she told him and he argues, they'll have to figure out whose story is more likely. Plus even if the woman wasn't just pro-choice but also has said she would get one herself, you never know how she'll feel when she's actually in the situation and not just… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.i'm not sure I agree with your definition of many: 41 states prohibit some abortions after a certain point in pregnancy. 21 states impose prohibitions at fetal viability. 5 states impose prohibitions in the third trimester. 15 states impose prohibitions after a certain number of weeks, generally 24; 7 of these states ban abortion at 20 weeks on the grounds that the fetus can feel pain at that point in gestation. The overwhelming majority of states have fairly strict laws about late term abortion… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.What exactly is your suggestion? | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 02:45 PM |
| 0 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Potential isn't actual. If we had artificial wombs, sure, save all the babies. But pregnancy is always, always, always dangerous; no matter how healthy is seems, women still die in childbirth. It's more rare, but it still happens. The actual human always is more important than the potential. I don't believe in souls. And personally, I don't think even an actual baby is of equal value to a self-aware, thinking human being. But in no other case do we force someone to use their body for someone els… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.You're deliberately ignoring what I'm saying. Men deserve a limited opt-out just like women. If the woman decides she still wants the baby without him, then she has to raise it without him. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.I just said that once it's viable, it gets rights. Not "until it's outside", but "once it can survive outside". | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.No. The only way to make the situation work is to split it between both. Women get abortions, and men get a similar time period where they can opt out. They're both responsible for conception. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Man and woman mean adults. That's the dictionary definition. Perhaps you meant males and females. And, at least in the US, abortion after viability is only legal for the life of the mother or terminal fetal conditions. A baby in the third trimester is not going to be aborted except for medical reasons. 88% of abortions happen in the first twelve weeks. At least a quarter of those would likely have miscarried naturally anyways. Those aren't babies. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.So if a sperm cell isn't life because it won't develop without an egg, why does the embryo count? An embryo can't develop without the womb. It does not independently develop. Once it can survive outside the womb, then it can have rights. Not before. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Maybe because you're referring to cells as adult men and women? I'm not downvoting you, but that's just ridiculous. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Your first point doesn't matter. False accusations of stranger rape would skyrocket, and then everyone would be paranoid about rape all the time. Police would still have to look for the 'rapists' because real rapes would still be happening, and men might end up arrested for rapes that never even happened. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Well, if you think it's murder, it shouldn't matter if it's a rape baby or not. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Because it just ends up killing not only the children, but the mothers. If you value life and not just the cute lil babies you picture, you try to save as many as you can, which means keeping it legal. Women get abortions regardless of legality. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:43 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.When there are artificial wombs, then the man can keep it. Until then, it's a biological inequity that can't be righted without seriously violating bodily autonomy. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.One of my additions to financial abortion is that an anti-abortion woman would be upfront about her views, and any man who slept with her would be accepting that risk. Don't want to be at risk for a baby? Stick to pro-choice women, then. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:41 PM |
| 2 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.And when abortion is illegal, what about when a man lies? What if he says he'll stick around if birth control fails, and so she accepts the risk, and then he bails after she gets pregnant? Just like a man shouldn't be forced to support a child he didn't want if the woman changes her mind and decides not to get an abortion, you can't just give men the freedom to walk out if abortion is illegal. Because there's no way to hold the man to the promise. A man can't see into a woman's reproductive syst… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.It's not irrational. If the choice the woman is facing is between an illegal abortion doctor where she faces a high risk of sterility or death, versus telling a lie to be able to get a safe one? Of course she's going to tell a lie. Especially if she doesn't have to accuse a specific person to do so. I'm only human. I wouldn't get an abortion anymore, but when I was younger, if I'd been desperate? You're damned right I'd rather lie and risk being accused of false accusation than risk sterility or… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Yepp. Women would risk death, and very often die, to get abortions. If you're willing to shove a coat hanger through your cervix, I doubt you're not willing to sign a slip of paper. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:26 PM |
| 3 | Why MRAs Should Be Pro-Choice: If only rape victims are allowed abortions, false accusations will skyrocket.Making abortion illegal doesn't stop abortion, it just kills a lot of desperate women--which still kills the fetus. If your goal is to preserve life, rather than just babies, keeping abortion safe and legal while endorsing preventative measures is the best course of action. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:19 PM |
| 0 | The most common sexual assault is inflicted on men, and hilarious! Put that bitch on a list.That might be because if you're smaller, you can effectively choke someone, whereas just slapping them won't do much of anything. Plus it's harder to fight back when you're being suffocated. If you're trying to hurt your partner, as a woman it's the "better" attack. Ugh. I hate that I'm thinking about these things this early in the morning. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 01:05 PM |
| 3 | Just a Little Comparison That Needed to be DoneThe draft in only enacted when they need soldiers for fighting. As women can't fill combat roles, it's useless to draft them, as the draft stands now. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/12 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Just a Little Comparison That Needed to be DoneIn the US, women are still not allowed to fight on the front lines. So no, the draft would still not affect women directly. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/12 02:15 PM |
| 5 | Just a Little Comparison That Needed to be DoneDon't forget that quite a few insurance plans were grandfathered in, and the rest only have to offer certain kinds for free. So just like with condoms, if you want a particular brand name, you're probably still going to have to pay for it. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/12 02:13 PM |
| 8 | Just a Little Comparison That Needed to be DoneIt depends on where you are, though. Free contraception isn't for everyone--many women are stuck on plans that were grandfathered in. Some states have only one remote abortion clinic for the entire state, and are rapidly working to make abortion as illegal as they legally can so that fewer women have access to them. Plus, men can get free condoms at pretty much any health clinic, and most college campuses. Exaggeration helps no one. Especially since half of this stuff isn't even fact--"is presum… | /r/MensRights | 27/08/12 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Government intervention isn't necessary for that. Those things I listed are all mandated by the government. The workforce exerted its power on the government. They didn't just get handed over. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/12 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Yes. Companies who, gasp, offer their employees more than what they are forced to, and don't treat them like cogs or slaves but like human beings. | /r/MensRights | 25/08/12 02:23 AM |
| 2 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Employers are forced to pay Social Security, to bear the burden of retired workers. You know what else employers have been forced to do, kicking and screaming every step of the way? To not hire child labour. To maintain safety standards. To have a five day work week. To have an eight hour day, forty hour week. To give a lunch break. To give ANY breaks. To pay for workplace injuries. To not discriminate for any biased reasons. To pay their employees a minimum wage. To pay overtime. Hell, people d… | /r/MensRights | 25/08/12 02:20 AM |
| 3 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.You can't safely and honestly get infants. The fad of importing babies leads to baby farming, baby theft, and other fraud. And older children usually have hosts of mental issues from the traumas that led to them being available to adopt in the first place. Overpopulated countries need birth control, not adoptive families. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.You do realise that planetary population has nothing to do with local population, right? Just because thunderstorms have been soaking everything here on the East Coast all summer doesn't help the Midwest's drought. Overpopulation in India, Africa, or China doesn't help underpopulated European or American countries. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 08:05 PM |
| 4 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Because if you disagree with a society, and are against things like Social Security and other forms of socialism, then you should get out of a social society. We're in no shortage of people. Depends on where you are. They're not doing me a service. Yes they are, because those children are who are going to keep society running as you get old. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 07:29 PM |
| 5 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Russia, the birthplace of modern feminism Russia? Feminist? Excuse me while I wipe tears of laughter from my eyes, here, hooooo boy that's funny. You realise that Russia is the country where sexual harassment and assault are endorsed by the government? Their Supreme Court officially said that without sexual harassment, you will have no children. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 07:24 PM |
| 5 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Why should I care about other people's kids/lives/society after me? I don't. Please get out of society, then. Get out of the country, get off the grid. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 07:22 PM |
| 6 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.No. Because that's not how a society works. Again, read what I wrote: Only an idiot wants to help no one but himself. If you don't want to help shoulder someone else's burdens, then get the hell out and be a hermit, so that when you have burdens, you won't be inflicting them on anyone else. See how you like it. You're not doing things just for yourself. You should support leave for others so that they have children that they raise healthy and intelligent and well-mannered, so that their children… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 07:12 PM |
| 13 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Caring for your dying mother is also a choice, but a lot of places allow you to take leave as a caretaker. And retiring is a choice, but we have Social Security and pensions. You have to pay for all those lazy old people who decided to not work anymore. It is a choice, yes. Did you read anything I wrote? And it's a choice that we should be encouraging responsible, competent adults to make. Did ya skip that whole part? Unless you want to return to the days where women stayed home and their husban… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 06:46 PM |
| 9 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Companies do not share equal numbers of employees, that's how. Not many women work for more enlightened tech companies like Google, which only has 29% female employees. Facebook is the industry leader for female employees, and only has 33%. Not to mention that a place like McDonald's, which employs loads more people than Google, still counts as one corporation for those stats, even though they're a much larger employer. You need a stat of how many working Americans have these benefits, not how m… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 06:33 PM |
| 6 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Only a little over half of American companies offer that (and that's employers, not employees, so a smaller percentage of women have that available to them), and only 5% at full pay. The vast majority of women do not have that option. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:56 PM |
| 15 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.Because it's not just a vacation. It's specifically to take care of another human being, after a very demanding physical and medical condition. That's like bitching about medical leave policies, and wanting to be able to stay home for two months like Joe who broke his spine and had to go through physical therapy, or Miranda who took three months off to care for her dying mother. Why it should happen? Because otherwise, we are discouraging the capable, intelligent, motivated people from having ch… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:54 PM |
| 3 | Google lengthens maternity leave for women to five months from three and to full pay from partial pay. No mention of changes to new father employee benefits.No changes were made to those because they were specifically trying to retain female employees. I'd love to see expanded parental leave out of the goodness of an employer's heart, but it's very rare. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Am I wrong in finding this a little offensive?Not all homophobia is motivated by that. But I have noticed that every single guy who does treat women like shit? Also homophobic. And not only homophobic, but misandrist--always insisting to his female acquaintances that all men only want sex all the time and will leap on every opportunity. So yes, in those cases, it very much is a projection of himself onto gay men and thinking they'll all want to bang him, because he wants to bang every girl. But that's not every homophobe, by far. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:42 PM |
| 10 | 11,000 "lost" untested rape kits found in Detroit. Rapist scare in Detroit as "21 serial rapists" already identified from 400 of those kits. Police department asks for more funding.Actually, most rapists are serial rapists, because most men aren't rapists. The average college rapist gets 4-6 each, according to studies, and that's just in college. Also, untested rape kits have been 'found' in a lot of places. They're not mysterious, they were just shoved out of the way by police departments/officers who didn't want to spend the time or money on them. Some places it may be easy to make a false claim, others it's really difficult to get a real one processed. Here is the story… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:33 PM |
| 9 | As far as I can tell, this is how it worksIt also needs to be framed as risk-reduction, not rape-prevention. You can never entirely prevent rape, no matter how safe you are. And if you do do something risky, it's still not your fault. It still requires that a rapist be around to take advantage of you putting yourself at risk. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:28 PM |
| 4 | As far as I can tell, this is how it worksPart of it is because the women doing the pointing out are blind to their own privileges. Yes, male privilege exists in some respects--but so does female privilege. Another part of the problem is that in teaching young girls to be afraid of all of those things, you are implictly implying to the young boys that it's okay to do those things, because after all, it's expected, it's normal, it's what boys. Obviously plenty will still never do it, but there are a lot of not-that-great people out there… | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:20 PM |
| 3 | As far as I can tell, this is how it worksThe problem isn't giving advice, it's telling someone who's already been raped "Oh, well you shouldn't have done x". Because that isn't helping anything. | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 05:16 PM |
| 0 | An analogy for the "we were oppressed in the past" logicNo. No one should have to pay for the sins of others. But you do no one any good pretending things don't and didn't happen. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/12 01:43 PM |
| 0 | An analogy for the "we were oppressed in the past" logicWomen being oppressed doesn't mean "all men live like kings", it means that women are oppressed. By every measure, women have distinctly fewer rights there. Yes, most men also suffer there, but legally speaking, women are oppressed. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/12 12:12 PM |
| 0 | An analogy for the "we were oppressed in the past" logicWe fucking have them now. Saudi Arabia. UAE. Afghanistan. Iran. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/12 01:00 AM |
| 2 | An analogy for the "we were oppressed in the past" logicIt depends on what time period and culture you're talking about. Some did, some didn't. Edit: For anyone who wants to contradict me, we still have them today. Saudi Arabia, for crying out loud. Or The United Arab Emirates, where a woman was thrown in jail for adultery because she dared to report her rape. Or how about an example of the same in Afghanistan, where "adultery by force" is criminal and she was only allowed out of jail when she agreed to become the second wife of her rapist. Which doe… | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Americans have fewer babies and postpone marriage. Media cites many reasons but the obvious reason - men automatically lose children, 18 years of income, and most of his stuff in a divorce he may not want (unilateral), for little or no reason (no-fault).Don't make things up. And don't forget that women are the ones in charge of the birth rate--most childbirths, within relationships anyways, are mutual, but if a woman wants to get pregnant, it doesn't matter if a handful of men say no. MGTOW will have no impact on the birthrate. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 06:15 PM |
| 6 | Savannah Dietrich tweets the names of the boys who pled guilty to her sexual abuse in violation of a court order: It isn't fair to the boys, and it does no favors for rape victimsThe thing is, it is a weird legal area. Court gag orders are meant for the jury and attorney; it is very questionable, legally, if one can force a victim to be quiet or not. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 06:11 PM |
| 9 | The new poster campaign on campusYou don't have to physically fight to be nonconsenting. A lot of men are trained from birth to never hit a girl. Of course they won't fight back. Just like a lot of female rape victims don't physically fight back, just lay there saying no no no no no. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 04:20 PM |
| 29 | The new poster campaign on campusBecause if he set off a traumatic memory of some kind, the humane thing to do is make sure they're okay, if they seem upset. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Man jailed for posting ratings of women's sexual performance on FacebookTrue. But first, you need an outcry to draw attention. And secondly, if it was explicitly written, Australia takes a very negative view of sexual stuff. Think about all the porn issues that have cropped up there. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 04:23 AM |
| 2 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.Nope. Just because she thinks she's entitled to sex doesn't mean she's primed to make a false accusation. You are making the exact same arguments that feminists use against men. "Oh well if a man calls a woman a bitch for rejecting him, he's OBVIOUSLY a rapist waiting for an opportunity". | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 04:13 AM |
| 0 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?You see one thing, I see another. That's what peer-reviewed studies are for, to determine who's right. You think you know something, but you can't prove it. After all, everyone used to know that black people aren't fully human. Plenty of feminists know that men are violent fiendish rapists. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 09:59 PM |
| 4 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.Her actions were that she wanted to have sex with him, and got angry when she was turned down. Where in this story does she at all demonstrate that she thinks drunk sex is rape? There's no action there to judge! | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 08:22 PM |
| 7 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.Sigh. You don't know this woman. You have no more grounds to declare that she would totally definitely make a FRA after sex than the radfems who think any man who hits on a woman would rape her if left alone in a room with her. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 07:45 PM |
| 6 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.No. What I'm telling you is that most people are either of the school of thought that they have agency sober, or are not. The feminists who think drunk women can't give consent sober aren't going to vilify a man for not sleeping with a drunk woman, because they'd be mad at him for not raping her. Those feminists would be telling the angry drunk girl that she's incapable of consenting to the sex she wants. Even if she were that hypocritical, she would be exempting herself from being incapable of … | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 07:30 PM |
| 1 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?The differences obviously exist. The same can be said of any bigotry. Until you scientifically prove that these "differences" exist, you've got no ground to stand on. What differences do exist? Women are usually smaller. Women can't match men's running speeds because of the architecture of the pelvis and the differences mandated by needing to be able to push a baby out. Women and men have different levels of white vs grey matter and seem to have slight differences in being better at focusing vs … | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 07:15 PM |
| 0 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?Women aren't some separate species the way horses are, though. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 07:08 PM |
| 3 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?It's being downvoted for saying women as a whole use men. That's sexist, insulting, and ignores the large population of women who are not attractive and couldn't get a man to buy them a drink even if they wanted him to. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 07:06 PM |
| 3 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?Women as a whole do not do this. It's not facts, it's anecdotes. I know guys who buy drinks for other guys. Some women do what you described. But first of all, not all women are even capable of doing it (don't fall into the trap of thinking all women are attractive with men falling at their feet), and not all women are willing to even if they can, either. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 07:05 PM |
| 3 | Obamacare Discriminates Against Men & Neglects Men's Health IssuesOh yes, there are a couple of sexist things in the ACA. But it is by no means a heavily anti-male piece of legislature. It helps far more men (anyone under the age of 26 who gets back on their parents' insurance, for example, plus any men with preexisting conditions) than it hurts. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 07:00 PM |
| 3 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.Actually, it is hateful, because he is counseling all men to avoid women. It's no better than airlines refusing to seat unaccompanied children next to men, or helicopter moms freaking out about a man at the playground or changing a diaper. Sexism is sexism; refusing to trust all women is sexism just like refusing to trust all members of a race is racism. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:57 PM |
| 1 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.We don't want to encourage or ignore sexist bigots, the way that many feminists try to no true scotsman the radfems away. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:56 PM |
| 1 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.Because MRAs supposedly stand up against unfair criticisms of men? Unless you think airlines are totally justified in not letting men sit next to unaccompanied children because they might be a pedo. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:55 PM |
| 1 | PostSecret.org: Secret "I'm tempted to tell my ex ..."Why does it indicate that to you? PostSecret is just individual anecdotes. The one I remember the most was from someone who couldn't bring herself to tell her father that she has the same disease that killed her mother; it's not like that's a particularly prevalent issue. If we saw a bunch of these, you'd have more of a point, but one juicy secret postcard does not an epidemic make. That said, studies have shown that paternity fraud is quite common in certain populations. It seems to be a cultur… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:54 PM |
| 3 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.Loads of people, unfortunately. There are plenty of men who will fling insults at any woman who turns them down, too. Loads of assholes out there. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:48 PM |
| 6 | I told a girl I wouldn't have sex with her because she was too drunk.Let's not be outrageous. The type of entitled bitch who thinks men aren't allowed to say no and aggressively pursues sex and defends her beliefs when sober is unlikely to be the type of crazy who thinks that drunk women have absolutely no agency. Most people are not that ragingly hypocritical. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:44 PM |
| 3 | Obamacare Discriminates Against Men & Neglects Men's Health IssuesDon't just read the main post he linked, because a lot of it is blatant lies. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Obamacare Discriminates Against Men & Neglects Men's Health IssuesDon't link that post. That post is blatantly wrong, claiming that many things are not available to men. For example: the HPV vaccine is covered, because now it's recommended that boys get it as well. It wouldn't have been a few months ago, but it is now because medical recommendations have changed. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:40 PM |
| 2 | Obamacare Discriminates Against Men & Neglects Men's Health IssuesThe diabetes screening is for pregnant women only. In fact, most of the "women only" services are for pregnant women only. Many services are available to all adults. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:39 PM |
| 11 | Man jailed for posting ratings of women's sexual performance on FacebookThat's a UK site, though, not an Australian one. This happened in Australia. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:31 PM |
| 5 | Man jailed for posting ratings of women's sexual performance on FacebookBecause he pled guilty, and it happened in Australia. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:31 PM |
| 10 | Man jailed for posting ratings of women's sexual performance on FacebookThis happened in Australia. They don't have free speech the way we think of it in America. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:30 PM |
| 11 | Man jailed for posting ratings of women's sexual performance on FacebookThis happened in Australia, remember. They have very strict laws about "objectionable material", and that's what he was hit with. David McRory, 22, of Bendigo pleaded guilty to using a carriage service to offend and publishing objectionable material online on Facebook. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 06:30 PM |
| -1 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?It's not a prejudice to judge someone off of their beliefs and actions. A prejudice is "a preconceived notion not based on reason or experience". I'm not judging whole groups of people without knowing them; I'm referring to specific individuals, and judging specific beliefs that are demonstrably irrational. That's the exact opposite of prejudice. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 02:15 PM |
| 1 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?Views contrary to my own may warrant respect and regard, yes. Views of hate never warrant respect and regard. | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 12:11 PM |
| 1 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?You're committing the fallacy of appealing to authority. Just because a famous or even intellectual person believes something doesn't make it right, especially people who are very dead (and I mean, seriously, I love Oscar Wilde, but you're going to depend on a gay man to be the authority on the true nature of women?). For centuries the Pope was the most powerful person on Earth, and declared that the Earth was the center of the universe. That doesn't make them right. If President Obama believed … | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 02:41 AM |
| 1 | If Assange is guilty of rape because a condom broke, should women who lie about contraception also be guilty of rape?No, the point is, if the allegations are true (which they very likely are not), bad guy Assange, fucks girls without condoms against their will. Did you read what I said? Holding a girl down to fuck her without a condom and initiating sex with someone who is asleep without their prior consent would both be legitimately sexual assault. Especially when it's not only sleep-sex-without-consent, but sleep-sex that had been explicitly forbidden. If someone says "Sure, I'll have sex with you but only i… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 02:28 AM |
| 0 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?Just because someone was famous doesn't mean that they're right about everything. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/12 08:24 PM |
| 3 | If Assange is guilty of rape because a condom broke, should women who lie about contraception also be guilty of rape?No, people are twisting the story. Assange is accused of 1) trying to hold a woman down to force sex without a condom against her will, and 2) having sex without a condom with a woman while she was sleeping even though she had explicitly said she would not have sex without a condom. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/12 08:23 PM |
| 5 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?I don't just casually dismiss them when an actual argument is being had, because I can refute the hell out of their beliefs. But someone who is a bigot is crazy, because they are coming from a worldview that doesn't actually exist. Someone who insists the sky is green would be called crazy; someone who insists that the gays are out to destroy America is crazy, someone who thinks the world is only 6000 years old is crazy, someone who insists that blacks are inherently inferiour is crazy, someone … | /r/MensRights | 20/08/12 07:25 PM |
| 24 | Two bathrooms, one for one gender, one for both. Both single-person. Unfair?I think it's just ridiculous to have gendered single-occupancy bathrooms. Why bother? | /r/MensRights | 20/08/12 06:40 PM |
| 2 | Moms’ Take on Paternity Fraud – They’re in Favor of It! « Fathers & FamiliesThis headline is incredibly misleading. Some moms on a certain website are in favour of it. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/12 06:38 PM |
| 19 | What is the best way to deal with MRA's who are using their activism to bash women?Don't no-true-scotsman the crazies the same way that feminists try to discount their crazies. They have to be dealt with, not ignored. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/12 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?and there is a line, since they are in person with those they are competing with. You're always interacting with people though. If you can realise that saying something to someone's face might hurt their feelings, why do you think it's okay to say it to them just because you can't see their face? You should always treat people with the same respect, not only treat them with respect if you have to see the reaction/worry about having your ass kicked. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?Defending free speech is defending the right to say something. Promoting it is encouraging it. It shouldn't be illegal to shout insults in gaming, but this whole post from the OP's perspective is about promoting and enabling the culture of anger and insults. I'm not trying to make it illegal. Sure, I'll defend to the death the right to say bad things, too. But that's different from discouraging it. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Sure, we could have kept up the habits … | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 08:41 PM |
| 5 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?I defend people's rights to say it, but defending free speech != promoting hate speech. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 07:17 PM |
| 16 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?But why are we enabling the gaming community to be assholes? I just don't understand why you're defending being an asshole. Especially to strangers. If you're with friends and you all know you respect each other, sure, throw around insults. But online gaming isn't your closest and bestest buddies, it's a bunch of strangers. That's what the fucking difference is. Knowing the person is exactly the difference. Telling someone to suck it up if they want to hang out with certain friends is one thing.… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 06:43 PM |
| 11 | An Experiment: This sub rightly, and for obvious reason, usually only posts stories about the way society makes being a man difficult and shitty. That can get you down after a time. So instead, tell me what you like about masculinity and being a man.It depends on upbringing. My mom did the best kind of camping-centric Girl Scout leading, so it was all pitching tents and building fires and carrying in your own water and sometimes even peeing in holes (which is a lot more of an effort for girls than boys). Few girls get that opportunity though, alas. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Are you fucking kidding me? This has always bothered the shit out of me.Not when you're ignoring the rest of the bills song. You cherry-picked a verse out of context. The song as a whole is about a guy who's racking up debt in her name--and thus she wants him to pay the bills that he has been accumulating. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 03:00 AM |
| 3 | Wife and child accepted to shelter, husband/father is not.Actually, shelters turn away women for similar reasons all of the time. This is hypothetical outrage that is utterly baseless and ignorant. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 06:03 PM |
| 1 | "My point is, I don't think catcallers care if you're 'sexy' or not. They're just like 'Oh, a female. Let me make her life harder!'"...interesting quote.No, it's any whistle, shout, or comment. The long whistle you're thinking of is called a "wolf whistle". | /r/MensRights | 10/08/12 08:15 PM |
| 5 | Trojan's Publicity Stunt shows double standards in perception of male/female sexuality.It depends on where your mainstream culture is. The Bible Belt is like its own universe. Big liberal cities aren't the only places in the world. | /r/MensRights | 10/08/12 07:11 PM |
| 3 | "My point is, I don't think catcallers care if you're 'sexy' or not. They're just like 'Oh, a female. Let me make her life harder!'"...interesting quote.Some people think it's complimentary. Some definitely don't. Those are the ones who target lone women in more threatening scenarios, or who harass any female who walks by with sexual demands, not anything that could be complimentary. And some of them are very aware of it. I live in a low-class neighborhood, and my neighbour shushed a friend of his who was starting off on a lewd catcall while I was hauling twenty pounds of compost home, because he knew me and that apparently made enough of a diff… | /r/MensRights | 10/08/12 04:42 PM |
| 22 | Trojan's Publicity Stunt shows double standards in perception of male/female sexuality.It really depends on who you're talking to. There's still a chunk of the population who think male masturbation is normal/unavoidable, and female masturbation is shocking and means you're not a good girl. Also, please don't say masturbation is only requisite for men. Remember hysteria, and the women who were going legitimately insane, and how the treatment for it was "massage" from a doctor on her genitals until she reached "hysterical paroxysm". It's why the vibrator was invented, because just … | /r/MensRights | 10/08/12 04:37 PM |
| 23 | My mom said I was going to be circumcised, “While they were down there.” I begged her not toNo, not the most appropriate. It isn't appropriate to respond to physical abuse with more violence. But to to disregard the 'familial obligation' to a person who disregarded your well-being? That, that is just perfect. | /r/MensRights | 10/08/12 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Men should just suffer emotional abuse, because the wife has X problem/pregnancy hormonesYeah. But this is a woman who is off her psych meds for pregnancy. So you have the double whammy of pregnancy hormones (which fuck with your brain) and a legitimate psychiatric disorder. He's been through it before with their first child, and knows it's just temporary. If she were off them for any other reason, I'd lean more towards selfish and abusive, but she can't be on them right now, for their mutually desired child. She should be more apologetic in her rational times, because it's not a re… | /r/MensRights | 10/08/12 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Men should just suffer emotional abuse, because the wife has X problem/pregnancy hormonesActually, there was recently a post about a girl whose SO hit her out of nowhere, having never been anything like it, and was acting very out of character. The consensus was that he might have a brain tumour, and that he should be checked out by a doctor. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 08:10 PM |
| 2 | Does society still see alimony as an entitlement?Are you implying that the risk is to be divorced and have to continue paying the spouse whose choice to not work was financed by the working partner? How is that justified? It's justified because when it is a mutual decision, the working partner is asking their SAH partner to completely give up their career. A large gap in employment history can be crippling, especially given the job market. Almost no one would be able to just hop right back into employment. And believe it or not, there are a lo… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 07:47 PM |
| 1 | How come when a man holds a note like that in front of him it doesn't absolve him from involuntary servitude?See, the problem is you think it's a baby. I don't think it's a baby until it's actually a baby that can survive on its own. Til then, parasite. Sometimes a welcome parasite, sometimes not. Potential isn't reality; a thinking, feeling, developed human being is always, always more important than a senseless, non-sentient ball of cells. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Does society still see alimony as an entitlement?Just split the bill with the creditor and have each partner pay their share to the creditor. Simple. It's not simple if the lesser-earning partner is the one being left, though--when you're married, you plan your life off of both salaries, not just yours. Don't live beyond your means, but if your partner makes $500k, yeah, you'll get a decent house, because you're sharing that house. Or what if it's the higher-earning partner that likes luxuries, and got nice cars? Also, the SAH parent is the on… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:50 PM |
| 1 | How come when a man holds a note like that in front of him it doesn't absolve him from involuntary servitude?And I also know that I can get an abortion. And I'm also signed off to be an organ donor, and would certainly voluntarily donate a kidney or some liver for someone I knew and loved. But you only get my organs with my consent. And a critter can only take up residence in my uterus with my consent. I take precautions to make sure nothing will get in there, but if something were to ever sneak through somehow, it'd be my right to kick it out again. Pregnancy puts the woman's life and health on the li… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:40 PM |
| 1 | /r/MensRights Demographics Poll!! [http://is.gd/MRMpoll]I went with mixed because I think it's important to be able to interact with the opposite sex, and segregating entirely can lead to thinking of the other sex as Alien or another species. But I also think segregated subjects can have their place. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:32 PM |
| 3 | /r/MensRights Demographics Poll!! [http://is.gd/MRMpoll]No, because a trans person will be straight or gay or bi, not just 'trans'. That says nothing about which gender you are attracted to. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:30 PM |
| 27 | Argument with my wife over circumcision.Well, if she's worried about him seeming gross, you can show her that circumcision rates are dropping like a stone and cut boys will be the odd men out. Only 32.5% in 2009. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:27 PM |
| 1 | How come when a man holds a note like that in front of him it doesn't absolve him from involuntary servitude?Call me when a tumor grows into a fully developed human being... I'll be waiting. Call me when a blob of cells can grow into a fully developed human being on its own. Just like you cannot force me donate my kidney to someone in need, you cannot force me to donate my uterus. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:25 PM |
| 3 | So, I was at a bar and a girl somehow brought up circumcision.If you're not washing yourself, you're probably stanky down there, even if you're cut. I'm a lady with direct personal contact, and let me tell you, you can't just skip cleaning it. All the hair around there holds in some filth without proper cleaning. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:18 PM |
| 7 | Thought someone might like this here.Well, then by your own definition the foreskin isn't useless. Just because we don't need something doesn't make it useless. You don't need your earlobes, or your nostrils, or your pinkie fingers, etc. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 05:13 PM |
| 1 | My Rape and Sexual Violence university course doing it right - an entire week devoted entirely to sexual violence against males.Yes, it makes it equal, but only if you're using their numbers. I'm against using those numbers. I don't, even for female victims, when I talk about rape. | /r/MensRights | 04/08/12 08:26 PM |
| 4 | My Rape and Sexual Violence university course doing it right - an entire week devoted entirely to sexual violence against males.Oh I agree, that's wrong. But not everything that happens under drugs/alcohol is coercion, either. If you're doing something and you know they wouldn't do it sober, ethically wrong. If you're doing something and they just happen to not be sober, there's nothing wrong with it. It's such a grey area, when it comes to coercion. It certainly exists, but it's so hard to define. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 05:54 PM |
| 11 | My Rape and Sexual Violence university course doing it right - an entire week devoted entirely to sexual violence against males.But two wrongs don't make a right. I'd rather focus on actual rape than pretending the world is chock full of rapists to try to make a point about rape culture. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 05:28 PM |
| 22 | My Rape and Sexual Violence university course doing it right - an entire week devoted entirely to sexual violence against males.50% only works if you go by the absurdly expanded definition of rape including any sex while drunk. You can be drunk or high and still consent; what you can't be is passed out/incoherent and still consenting. I highly disagree with that expanded definition, for both sexes. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Man's wife attacks him unprovoked from behind. Guess who goes to jail?Connecticut, because it has a mandatory arrest policy without a primary aggressor policy (which means that they don't pay attention to DV history, or self defense, or comparative extent of injuries inflicted, etc) had a dual arrest rate of 33%, as opposed to the national average that varies between 2% and 9%: Recent research has examined the factors that may account for the stark contrast in dual arrest rates between Connecticut and the rest of the nation. Of these factors, the most compelling i… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 04:33 PM |
| 1 | The Manipulated Man - book describing women as having power in society by Pavlovian conditioning men to do work for them.Yepp, because sexual drive has been documented scientifically and across cultural bounds. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 04:01 PM |
| 5 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?STI screening is available for all adults at higher risk. Chlamydia and gonorrhea are specifically underlined for women because it can cause infertility, but they're available to men, too. The only things in there that are sexistly unavailable for men is the DV counseling, that breast cancer and osteoporosis screenings for men at risk aren't covered, and that tubal ligations are covered but vasectomies are not. Those are things to be worked on, but the benefits men get are nothing to sneer at. T… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 07:13 PM |
| 2 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?That's directly from the government, entirely different from health insurance companies covering things. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 07:08 PM |
| 5 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?You don't get annual prostate exams until you're forty to fifty years old. That's too late to start training the habit. Women start gyno exams as soon as they start menstruating, sexual activity, or by 21. And, as I've said elsewhere, prostate cancer is such a tricky cancer. Specifically prostate cancer, because it often doesn't cause problems, and the treatments for it can have long-term deleterious effects. It's not as simple an issue as it seems on the surface. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 06:41 PM |
| 6 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?If men were told they had to get an annual exam, they'd probably go more often too. Women's annual gyno exams are part of what ingrains the habit of going to the doctor, I think. We're just used to it. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 06:16 PM |
| 7 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Are you blind? Men get that too, it's just expanded for pregnant women because of the fetus involved. 15.Tobacco Use screening for all adults and cessation interventions for tobacco users | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 06:14 PM |
| 3 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Breast cancer treatment isn't covered. This is only PREVENTATIVE care that is covered. Screenings and counseling only. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 06:12 PM |
| 5 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Men get more care. There's a whole list of things that are also free for men. They aren't losing anything. In fact, a whole hell of a lot of men (my type I diabetic boyfriend, for one) gained care from the ACA, because of the stay-on-parental-insurance-til-26 thing. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 06:12 PM |
| 4 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Right at the top of the list: Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm one-time screening for men of specified ages who have ever smoked The things that are female specific are almost exclusively related to pregnancy. There are a few things (like breast cancer, and DV) that aren't, but yes, there will always be more female-specific things in preventative healthcare because women's healthcare includes preventing pregnancy and preventing unhealthy babies (the reason chlamydia and gonorrhea are listed there is be… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 05:37 PM |
| 9 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Condoms aren't covered. Unless a doctor were to write a prescription for condoms, which has never happened. Prostate cancer screening isn't covered, if you do research into it, because it's not effective (80% false positive rate) and leads to unnecessary surgeries that cause problems both short and long term, like incontinence and ED. When we have a better screening process and there are fewer deleterious effects. I've posted about this before in here, and can dig up my sources if you really nee… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Jon Gosselin in danger of going to jail for failure to pay child support. Can only afford rent or the support, not both.Or, you know, some women are decent human beings. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 04:38 PM |
| 12 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Yes. If you look here, many of the benefits for women are available to all adults, and are just especially underlined for women (for example, STI infections can cause infertility in women, so emphasizing their screening and treatment is a bigger deal). For anyone who's really lazy, Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm one-time screening for men who've ever smoked is top of the list, and alcohol and smoking counseling and treatment are available for everyone, as is blood pressure screening, depression scree… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 02:02 PM |
| 5 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Quite a few, actually. And even more than that are on the less reliable cheap pills, who would rather have the shot or the implant or better yet an IUD, which is more effective than even tubal ligation, but costs hundreds of dollars to get implanted. I dropped off birth control when I was uninsured, because I couldn't afford my Ring, and I am really bad at taking pills regularly. Obviously I'd never have unprotected sex while unprotected, but condoms can break, and other people are dumber/more s… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 01:55 PM |
| 1 | New French law can send men to prison and be fined $30,000+ dollars for 'catcalling' among other offenses.Rape is a verifiable and easily provable crime. Not generally. It may be less difficult to prove sex, now, but it's still difficult to prove whether or not there was consent. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 01:51 PM |
| 8 | Mothers get 3 chances to opt out. Abortion, abandonment, and adoption. All legal options that completely remove parental responsibility. Men get 0. Since it's a mother's choice, shouldn't she be the one who pays for it?If no father is on the birth certificate, that's because the mother didn't know who he was or didn't want him on there. Not because the father abandoned her. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 01:48 PM |
| 3 | All of this talk about how much Obama-care is benefiting American women starting today, are there any benefits for men?Sort of wrong. Here is the list of services for all adults. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 01:45 PM |
| 7 | Man's wife attacks him unprovoked from behind. Guess who goes to jail?Some states would require it, yes. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.No, of course not, it's horrendous. But it was the society that was doing it, not the religion. It's different, not okay. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 10:37 PM |
| 0 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.The castrato choir was not formalized into the texts the way many anti-female practices are. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 06:23 PM |
| 3 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.It does oppress everyone. However, while I'm generally loth to play Oppression Olympics, strict conservative religions is the one area where one can demonstrably say that women are more oppressed than men. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism....no, I've read all of the Old and the New Testament. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.Ephesians 5:22-33. Wives are to submit to their husbands as they would to God, and husbands are to love their wives as they love themselves. There is a huge difference between loving someone and submitting to them. Women are told to obey, and men are told to not be dicks. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.I've taken classes on the old and new Testament, and have dabbled through the Quran a bit. You're an idiot if you're trying to deny that there's anywhere near the oppression of women. Various bits include: the fact that women aren't allowed to hold any position of power, women being considered dirty and forced to be secluded while menstruating, women being forced to marry their rapist, women but not men being killed for adultery, women not being allowed to speak in church, women being required t… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 06:02 PM |
| 1 | The Manipulated Man - book describing women as having power in society by Pavlovian conditioning men to do work for them.It's a primal urge for everyone to want sex. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Saw this on my Facebook news feed... apparently, if a lesbian slaps a man and the man fights back, it's instantly a hate crime against women and gays.Actually, it is against the law to completely pulverize someone unwarrantedly. Self-defense is only acceptable as an excuse to the point that it remains defense; it's why Stand Your Ground laws are so hotly debated, because in places without them, it's against the law to use excessive force, even when attacked. Also, that's your opinion. I could easily say that going into the hospital won't make them think twice about attacking someone, they'll just get angrier and get stronger and want revenge … | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 03:23 PM |
| 3 | Saw this on my Facebook news feed... apparently, if a lesbian slaps a man and the man fights back, it's instantly a hate crime against women and gays.It's not your job to persuade them of anything. It's against the law, and you should not be a vigilante. You defend yourself as minimally as is necessary, and then charge them with assault. That's what the laws are there for. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.If you're really trying to argue that women aren't far more demeaned in major religious texts than men are, then you're either ignorant or an idiot, and are no better than a radfem denying that anything bad could happen to men. There are areas where women are worse off than men, just like there are plenty of areas where men are worse off than women. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Friend asks "What would YOU change within Feminism?"Really? All laws? So, women should lose the right to vote, marital rape should become legal again, women should lose all property upon marriage, etc? Let's not be ridiculous here. Feminism has made twisted things, but it's not all evil, either. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:13 PM |
| 4 | Saw this on my Facebook news feed... apparently, if a lesbian slaps a man and the man fights back, it's instantly a hate crime against women and gays.I disagree with that entitlement. You should never do more than necessary to hurt someone, even if they started it. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.No, the men owned women's thoughts and allegiance, as well. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:07 PM |
| 3 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.Yes, but women are also property to men. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:07 PM |
| 0 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.It's not ironic, when taken in the context of religion, which all three main religions specifically demean women and children in their texts. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Found this gem on the front page of r/atheism.Only during times of war. In most religious texts, during normal life men are generally accorded power, specifically over women and their children. A good orthodox Christian woman is supposed to always agree with her husband, never disagree with him, and suffer any abuse he lays upon her. Same for children. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Why is it illegal for the government to tell how a couple should raise their kids, but it suddenly becomes legal once the couple splits?Why should custody be given to either one? Custody should be split. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Why is it illegal for the government to tell how a couple should raise their kids, but it suddenly becomes legal once the couple splits?So wait wait. You think your SO shouldn't have had a child with you, that she made a bad decision in becoming a parent? | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 01:55 PM |
| 3 | Absolutely fascinated by how some women just don't want men to have any kind of camaraderie.If you knew anything about me, you'd know I've been an active contributor here for years. Just because someone disagrees with you about something doesn't make them a troll. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 02:23 AM |
| 7 | Absolutely fascinated by how some women just don't want men to have any kind of camaraderie.Insecurity is often found with immaturity, but 'immaturity' when it comes to personality is not only an incredibly broad topic, but is usually used to just mean whatever you find to be childish, with no set standards, much in the same way 'slut' or 'creep' are used to shame without any real definitions. For example, I and many of the others here don't think that a man choosing to enjoy video games or travel around and so on rather than settling down immediately to support a family is immature, b… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 04:55 PM |
| 7 | Absolutely fascinated by how some women just don't want men to have any kind of camaraderie.Who are these many or most women, though? Seriously. This isn't a stereotype I've ever run into. I've heard about people complaining that their partner spends too much time with friends at the expense of the relationship, and I've seen loads of couples where they'd both become codependent and just of their own volition ditch all of their friends, but I've only seen in a couple of obviously abusive relationships where someone was trying to make their partner friendless and dependent upon them. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 04:36 PM |
| 2 | I've been in the art of synchronized swimming for 30 years, to just find out that because I AM A MAN I cannot compete.The "true Olympic spirit" is pretty bollocks, though. The whole "amateur" ideal was because the founder was an incredibly bigoted classist who didn't want anyone other than gentlemen of leisure who had the time and money to pursue sport for fun to be able to participate. I'm all for the continued evolution of the Olympics. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 02:48 PM |
| 3 | Absolutely fascinated by how some women just don't want men to have any kind of camaraderie.Let's not get hyperbolic. Show me a case where a man has ever been arrested for kicking his partner out. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 02:45 PM |
| -9 | Absolutely fascinated by how some women just don't want men to have any kind of camaraderie.Doesn't mean HyperComa is wrong, though. Both groups sound juvenile. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 02:43 PM |
| 5 | Absolutely fascinated by how some women just don't want men to have any kind of camaraderie.There is no such fucking thing as an instinctual need to stifle your partner, and I'm really disgusted that such baseless sexist claims are being upvoted here. Ugh. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 02:42 PM |
| 4 | Absolutely fascinated by how some women just don't want men to have any kind of camaraderie.I have never in my life had a female friend who didn't like closeness between men, except for one abusive girlfriend I knew. In fact, even among older generations, I know way more people who insist that their SO can only have friends of the same sex. On what basis are you making this claim that "women" don't like male closeness? | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 02:40 PM |
| 0 | "I need feminism because on the women’s website I write for, too many men comment to tell me I’m wrong.""...that I didn't hear about" comes off as reductive and patronizing, not like you're asking for more details, just so you know. It wasn't the most important thing in the world, but that anyone raised a ruckus about it is just ridiculous. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 07:46 PM |
| 3 | "I need feminism because on the women’s website I write for, too many men comment to tell me I’m wrong."Emer O'Toole's decision to bare hairy armpits on TV exploded all over the UK, and I know it was brought up on the news in Australia and New Zealand as well as at least parts of the US. The fact that you didn't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen or wasn't important. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 07:31 PM |
| 15 | "I need feminism because on the women’s website I write for, too many men comment to tell me I’m wrong."I agree with you on a personal level about hairiness--but at the same time, it's ridiculous that a woman appearing on a talk show with unshaven armpits became international news. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 06:41 PM |
| 0 | Two academics suggest that conferences which don't have female keynote speakers should be boycotted.And there's evidence that a lack of role models is what encourages that domination. And still, 31% of philosophy degrees go to women. It's not like chess grand masters, where only 1% are female, and thus having a female grand master at every tournament would mean overexposing the women and depriving men of opportunity. You can't possibly suggest that just because only one third are female, they can't find one female speaker for a panel or conference. You see male speakers at archaeology and lite… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 06:08 PM |
| 0 | What are your opinions on this? Seems to be bias (xpost from r/bestof)Culture is different everywhere you go. It's entirely possible that where she grew up, it is a bigger privilege to be male than female. Or at least that it was in her life, if she never faced violent crime, etc. Having a privilege in one area doesn't mean you can't face negatives in other areas. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Two academics suggest that conferences which don't have female keynote speakers should be boycotted.To be fair, though, while I'm against quotas in any form, it is a bit ridiculous to suggest that at conferences with a lot of speakers, that there isn't one woman who would be qualified enough to speak. Especially in a field as wide as philosophy. There is value to looking to one's own biases. Just like we shouldn't have racial quotas, but it's undeniable that people have bias against hiring black people, black men especially. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Two academics suggest that conferences which don't have female keynote speakers should be boycotted.There are no hospitals without male nurses. Male nurses are incredibly important. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 02:45 PM |
| 7 | Why women shit test men (female psychology and male disposability, comments are an interesting read)It is not how women are "wired", any more than men are "wired" to be rapists. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 02:43 PM |
| 0 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.One of the kids is his kid. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:11 PM |
| 2 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.The infant is his. He left his son. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:11 PM |
| 4 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.She's the mother of his child. The infant son he left on the floor of the theatre. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.Most scared people wouldn't dump their infant son on the floor. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.Actually, saving your children generally becomes your number one instinct. And yet he dropped his son on the floor and ran. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:09 PM |
| 7 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.He owes his biological child quite a bit, actually. But he left his son on the floor. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.The infant is his biological child. Not leaving your child to die is basic human decency. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:07 PM |
| 0 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.I don't care about rationality. Abandoning your infant child makes you a scumbag. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:06 PM |
| 17 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.The infant he left lying on the floor is his child. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:04 PM |
| 19 | Man demonized by media for not taking a bullet for his girlfriend in Aurora shooting.The infant IS his child, though. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Fixing girl's stuff [x-post WTF]This is stupidly sexist and shallow. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 06:12 PM |
| 3 | A generalization is NOT a universal statement, and it's OKAY to generalize.There's a big difference between saying "Black culture today does not encourage fathers to take an active role, and even promotes a life of single motherhood and lack of responsibility", and saying "Black men don't care about their families" or "Black women are irresponsible". Surely you can see that. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 06:12 PM |
| 3 | A generalization is NOT a universal statement, and it's OKAY to generalize.The thing is, a lot of things that sound like generalizations do have an implicit all. You need a "most" or "tend to" or something to show that you mean it as a generalization. Example: Dogs are mammals. Dogs are domesticated. Cats are obligate carnivores. Healthy cats require less personal care than dogs. Fish need water that has been dechlorinated. All of those have an implicit and true "all" statement. But then there are generalizations. Dogs and cats have fur. Dogs are more trainable than ca… | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 06:09 PM |
| 1 | A generalization is NOT a universal statement, and it's OKAY to generalize.Nah, the tend makes it clear you know it's not a rule. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 05:56 PM |
| 2 | A generalization is NOT a universal statement, and it's OKAY to generalize.But it's also common knowledge that men don't like children, that all they want is sex, that if he has an erection it must mean he wants it, that domestic violence is something women face. Do you see why "common knowledge" is a dangerous thing? | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 05:55 PM |
| 2 | A generalization is NOT a universal statement, and it's OKAY to generalize.He should shout "STOP! POLICE!" and then chase the one who runs. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 05:53 PM |
| 5 | A generalization is NOT a universal statement, and it's OKAY to generalize.What you think is obviously implied isn't always obvious. There are people out there who think all women are fill-in-the-blank, and you need to distinguish yourself from the crazies. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 05:52 PM |
| 0 | I joined this subreddit out of curiosity. This is test to see where people stand on the subject. What are your thoughts on posters like this?That actually makes the poster a lot better. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 05:50 PM |
| 1 | I joined this subreddit out of curiosity. This is test to see where people stand on the subject. What are your thoughts on posters like this?I hate that too. I wish I could give it the benefit of the doubt and think it's only referring to people who prey on people who are so drunk that they are incapacitated, which certainly is rape, but there's a lot of "Any drunk sex cannot be consensual!" crap flying around. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Contempt charges dropped against Savannah Dietrich. Won't be penalized for defying judge's orders and tweeting attacker's namesThey pled guilty and were convicted. There's no doubt here. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/12 05:40 AM |
| 6 | So much ignorance here...Okay, so I'll bite. I have nothing wrong with some healthy objectification, not at all--I'm bi, I like sexy people, I'm subscribed to /prettygirls and /tomhiddleston and /ladyboners and whatnot. You can sexualise and objectify someone and it can be perfectly fine. A problem, however, arises when you sexualise and more importantly objectify an entire group. The main thing is that it's dehumanizing; you are taking away their status as people, because you're turning them into objects first. It's no… | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:41 PM |
| 4 | Seriously, youtube?Except that most "don't get raped" advice doesn't actually do anything to prevent you from getting raped. The vast majority of rapes are perpetrated by people you know, in your home or a friend's home. Clothing has actually been shown to have nothing to a negative correlation to rape; wearing slutty clothes is not a risk factor for being raped. Alcohol is. Alcohol-related advice is good advice. But in the end, there's only so much risk-aversion you can do. You can't prevent it entirely. But the … | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:38 PM |
| 2 | Contempt charges dropped against Savannah Dietrich. Won't be penalized for defying judge's orders and tweeting attacker's namesDion said the Kentucky law on gag orders in juvenile cases presupposes that information revealed came from reading the court record. In Dietrich's case, he noted, she was the victim, and she had independent knowledge of the crime. Legally, she did nothing wrong. And these kids weren't just accused, they pled guilty and were convicted. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:18 PM |
| 7 | Contempt charges dropped against Savannah Dietrich. Won't be penalized for defying judge's orders and tweeting attacker's namesThey aren't the accused. They're the convicted. This isn't before a trial. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:17 PM |
| 5 | Contempt charges dropped against Savannah Dietrich. Won't be penalized for defying judge's orders and tweeting attacker's namesDion said the Kentucky law on gag orders in juvenile cases presupposes that information revealed came from reading the court record. In Dietrich's case, he noted, she was the victim, and she had independent knowledge of the crime. So yeah, the victim is actually still allowed to talk about the case. You can't gag a victim. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:16 PM |
| 3 | Contempt charges dropped against Savannah Dietrich. Won't be penalized for defying judge's orders and tweeting attacker's namesWhat she didn't wasn't illegal, though, and is only debatably wrong. Dion said the Kentucky law on gag orders in juvenile cases presupposes that information revealed came from reading the court record. In Dietrich's case, he noted, she was the victim, and she had independent knowledge of the crime. I don't think you can or should silence a victim from being able to talk about their experience. Especially after the verdict. It's not even slander. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:15 PM |
| 5 | Contempt charges dropped against Savannah Dietrich. Won't be penalized for defying judge's orders and tweeting attacker's namesDion said the Kentucky law on gag orders in juvenile cases presupposes that information revealed came from reading the court record. In Dietrich's case, he noted, she was the victim, and she had independent knowledge of the crime. By law, they're only protected from other people involved in the case talking about it. You can't gag a victim. Especially since she is assuredly a victim, and there's no possibility of false reputation tarnishing. She has every right, just like any victim would. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.I can understand how a person would be scarred by such experiences. But that's what therapy is for, to help you become a healthy person again rather than an embittered victim. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.That's not what I said at all. There's a lot of therapy to go through if you have PTSD. That's why I've been calling it PTSD, and not just talking about trust issues. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Men having body image problems thanks to current muscleman ideal.Apparently Intermittent Fasting is a good way to be able to do both, from what I've read, but while I love IT just for health reasons, I've not tried to build muscle or lose weight while on it. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 11:35 PM |
| 0 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.The legal stacking can certainly apply to marital laws in most states, but despite the often-trumpted worries about common-law marriage coming from cohabitation, very few states in America actually have common-law marriage (Canada and other Western nations are different, of course). The fears that every woman can destroy any man with false accusations is also very locale-dependent. One of my very good friends had his ex try to pull the domestic violence card on him during their messy divorce, an… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 11:34 PM |
| -1 | Women complaining about paying half the billIt's just pointing out that even uglier chicks have an EASIER time getting laid than most men do. But that's not what it's doing. An easier time is not the same as ANY TIME ANYONE EVER. It just pisses people off, because it's so blatantly false. And bear in mind--this woman is complaining about celibacy because she's hung up on money. Not all women are, especially not the sex-positive healthy sluts. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Women complaining about paying half the billYou might be, but I can't tell you how many times I've seen/been told that a woman can walk up to any man and say "Let's fuck", and unless he's seriously married or gay he'll supposedly go along with it. I'm sadly not exaggerating. A lot of guys seem to think that because they and/or their friends talk about how they'd have sex with anyone, then ALL MEN ARE THE SAME. And I too say that even by your version of the argument, anyone can get laid any time. A lot of guys like to pretend that fat wome… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 07:24 PM |
| 3 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.Nah. Short term is a reaction to PTSD. If you've ever interacted with people who have PTSD, you'll know that flashbacks are real and terrible. If you haven't... well, I guess it's like thinking depression is just being really sad. A short term solution to a trigger is to avoid/remove the trigger, until you start to treat and reduce the underlying disorder. But the point is that it's a temporary stopgap, not a healthy place to be, and you're moving towards that healthy place. Making it a long ter… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Men having body image problems thanks to current muscleman ideal.Ironically, you need to eat more to be able to build muscle. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Men having body image problems thanks to current muscleman ideal.Ass muscle is different from the ass fat deposits that make the difference between an ideal male ass (muscled and the widest part sitting higher) and an ideal female ass (toned but fattier, with low-riding fat deposits), not to mention the need for hips to full round it out into an ideal female shape. Kardashians have the genes. Yes, every individual has different tastes, but the ideal male booty is generally different from the ideal female booty. Anecdotally, as a bisexual I can verify that a g… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 04:56 PM |
| 2 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.First of all, I don't really support women's only shelters, either. But secondly, those are an immediate response, not a long-term solution. They aren't cloisters where women are never returned to male-filled society, they're temporary havens. MGTOW is a life philosophy, not just taking a break from the dating scene. So it's kind of apples and oranges, even though I still also disagree with women's only shelters. Sex-specific stuff can be relevent for the exams right after a rape, or other such … | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Three heroes died in Aurora taking bullets for their girlfriendsWell, I know fiction is different, but you see women take damage for men in fictional media without the man being called a coward; the woman is just treated as a hero same as a man would be. Off the top of my head, when Megara saves Hercules in Disney's animated Hercules film, or in Buffy's season five finale, Anya almost kills herself taking a heap of rubble to the head while pushing her boyfriend out of the way. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Men having body image problems thanks to current muscleman ideal.The ideal male body per women is harder to achieve than the ideal female body per men. Let's not go oppression olympics here. Because one can easily parry back that you can always define muscle, but a woman can't build boobs or ass or hips without surgical intervention. Ideal bodies are hard for everyone, and both genders have mistaken ideas of what the ideal body according to the opposite gender is. (By which I mean most guys don't want skeletal fashion models, and most girls don't want roidy b… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.Whoah, dude, calm down and get off the caps lock. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 03:44 PM |
| 3 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.They're pretty similar. You think radfem reasons are superficial, I don't think they're any more or less superficial than MGTOW reasons. Advocating abstaining from all sex/relationships isn't that different from advocating swapping--you're still abstaining from something you would otherwise naturally want. I don't blame him for the emotional PTSD, if his story's true, but I still won't excuse it. A rape victim has to learn to trust to be a healthy human being again. Same for if someone got mugge… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 03:41 PM |
| 6 | Women complaining about paying half the billThe only thing to keep in mind is that we women are told that we can always get sex from any man we want, any time. This is blatantly untrue, but we keep getting told that. I've been argued at on reddit, even, for trying to say that even an attractive girl can't always just up and get laid unless you drop all standards, and that a guy could do the same thing if he dropped his standards. That author is obviously not too bright/experienced, so it's probably a case of taking the untrue stereotype a… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Girl Writes What on the whole ladymra/MGTOW debacle.That's not a loaded question, it's an honest one. MGTOW can do whatever they want, but they're no different from radfems who promote political lesbianism. I find both equally offensive, and many MRAs get rightfully ruffled when feminists do it to men. It's hypocritical to support doing to it to women if you don't like women doing it to men. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 01:43 PM |
| 3 | Three heroes died in Aurora taking bullets for their girlfriendsUnless you have evidence of that happening, can we stop declaring it as fact that men would be called cowards? | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 03:00 AM |
| 5 | Just because a bad decision was made, doesn't mean it was rape. My story.Oh yeah. I didn't mean to imply that utter passivity is never consenting, but if it's not obviously consent, anyone with an inkling of sexual responsibility needs to make sure their partner's onboard. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/12 04:21 PM |
| 3 | Just because a bad decision was made, doesn't mean it was rape. My story.If someone isn't participating and hasn't consented, you need to make sure they're actually consenting. Physical implied consent (grinding back up on you, putting your hands on things, etc, with no moving your hands away) is still consent. But just laying there passively? | /r/MensRights | 20/07/12 04:14 PM |
| 4 | "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~VoltaireHere is an article that outlines some of it. It's ridiculous to try to say that racism is dead when even the most passing of familiarity with the legal system shows huge bias against blacks, plus that new study that blacks with no criminal record are statistically as hireable as white felons. | /r/MensRights | 19/07/12 04:33 PM |
| 3 | How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now?Yeah, I definitely think this is a case of some uptight prude getting offended on the behalf of people who aren't at all offended. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 08:13 PM |
| 1 | For every £1 spent on mens health £8 is spent on womensBecause the small fuckups that women's bodies are prone to, like yeast infections, bacterial vaginosis, or UTIs, aren't generally going to kill you (although UTIs can if they hit your bladder or kidneys and don't get treated), but they sure as hell make your life unpleasant or annoying. A man's genitals, generally speaking, will not spontaneously become itchy burning painful horrors out to ruin everything, whereas for a lot of women, such infections can spring up for next to no reason--wearing a… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 06:15 PM |
| 2 | For every £1 spent on mens health £8 is spent on womensExcept when it's actually just for the benefit of the woman. HBC is often used not just to control birth, but to reduce and regulate or even eliminate menstruation and its related maladies, as well as PCOS. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 06:08 PM |
| 2 | For every £1 spent on mens health £8 is spent on womensI know men who tell their girlfriends to wear makeup, and I certainly know lots of employers that require makeup on the female employees. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 06:07 PM |
| 2 | For every £1 spent on mens health £8 is spent on womensYeah, I can't go to a NSFW page, but I'm wondering if this includes reproductive care, which is just innately more complex for women than men. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 06:06 PM |
| 6 | It's this even legal in a restaurant?Well, there's sexism both ways when it comes to dress codes. The vast majority of it stems from two things, either the assumption that the female body is inherently provocative but the male body is not, or the fact that men's fashion is far more restrictive than women's. Imagine a black tie event. The women can wear dresses of an infinite variety, but men get tuxes or three piece suits. Try to picture a formal outfit for a man that is sleeveless, or with shorts, and it's ridiculous. it goes for … | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Awareness of female-superiority persists down to childhood: "reading is girlie"This is an excellent article, but I don't like the headline the OP threw on there. The boy in question in no way thinks reading is superiour--in fact, he's downright condescending of it. Yes, we know how important reading is, but he doesn't. He doesn't shy away from reading because he thinks he isn't good enough for it, he reacts against it because he thinks it's just sitting around doing nothing. There's a huge difference. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 05:33 PM |
| 4 | Don't let prudes ruin sexual banter: why unwanted sexual attention isn't the same as sexual harrassmentYeah, it's a weird line. Banter can be fun, but the same things that are banter between consenting flirters are sexual harassment when it's knowingly not consensual. My friends and I say filthy things to each other all the time, but a stranger saying that to me on the street is certainly not okay. But asking someone for a date, or handing them your online dating info or whatever, is never harassment--unless you actually harass, as in repeatedly pester, them about it. I would say that the couple'… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 05:25 PM |
| 2 | How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now?Don't say always. Slave Leia is the sexualised version, yes, but not all cosplay is. Some characters don't have modest versions. This context yes, but out of this context, not always true. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 05:14 PM |
| 36 | How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now?I mean, I'll defend the statement that not all cosplay is about attention, even if it's a somewhat provoative outfit--sometimes, you just don't have a choice for that character. However, Slave Leia is intended to be sexy and provocative, so. If they didn't want the sexualised version of her character, they would choose the white dress and buns, or some other normal version. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What would happen in this kind of a rape case?It actually doesn't specify that the victim must be penetrated, just that penetration must occur without the consent of the victim. It can be easily argued to include envelopment, even though it should just say it flat out. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/12 05:07 PM |
| 0 | Austria med school gives women grading edge. The university is grading men and women differently based on gender.This is for the entrance exams, it has nothing to do with how capable they'll be upon graduation. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/12 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Austria med school gives women grading edge. The university is grading men and women differently based on gender.This is the entrance exams. If they make it through and graduate, they'll be just as educated as a male. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/12 12:54 AM |
| 4 | Austria med school gives women grading edge. The university is grading men and women differently based on gender.This is the entrance exam for university. | /r/MensRights | 09/07/12 12:53 AM |
| 4 | The picture that raised my consciousness about mens rightsIt's not biology, it's social conditioning. Because biologically, we evolved in small tribes, like chimps and bonobos. All non-agricultural primitive/Stone Age tribes that are still around today are strict socialists, sharing everything between all members, usually including sex; very few have monogamy. This idea of a caveman supporting a woman and her children is Victorian hogwash that is completely untrue if you actually look at sociology and the archaeological evidence. There's not even a shr… | /r/MensRights | 08/07/12 08:48 PM |
| 3 | Obamacare strikes again - DV protection for women, not for men. This is just the beginning.In addition to what foxehknoxeh said, there actually is a history in the US of childbearing-aged women being left out of medical research, out of fear of damage to any potential fetus. The problem with that is that women of childbearing age absorb medications differently than men or postmenopausal women, and that has actually led to severe complications and deaths. Not to say that all of those departments and boards are necessary, but that is one actual thing that needs to be readdressed for wom… | /r/MensRights | 06/07/12 02:19 PM |
| 3 | How would you raise your daughter differently?I'd imagine one should avoid teaching your boys that girls are all golddiggers, just like you shouldn't teach daughters that boys are all only after one thing. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/12 02:15 PM |
| 2 | During economic downturn, men work longer and harder. Women, not so much.This study doesn't seem to account for childcare. I hate to bust out that card, but if one parent is staying longer at work, someone still needs to be watching the kids. I'd be interested to see what the difference is when that is neutralized. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/12 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Slapping Your Partner Is...Sometimes Okay? | Psychology TodayNo, the author is pointing out that society is unconsciously pro-abuse. There's a difference. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/12 02:12 PM |
| 1 | How do you respond when someone pulls that "circumcision reduces HIV" card? They often cite that study in Africa. Do we know details about that study? Was it peer reviewed and repeated? Do they have an anatomical/physiological theory to back up their claim?Because it's not better to be without them, unless they cause problems. Your appendix and wisdom teeth both serve purposes. With modern dentistry, the wisdom teeth are moot and sometimes harmful, but not inherently so. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/12 02:08 PM |
| 2 | Obamacare strikes again - DV protection for women, not for men. This is just the beginning.Yeah, I don't know why there wasn't more of a fuss raised about vasectomies, that's the part of Obamacare that really really bothers me, though it's not worth uninsuring the millions of men and boys now covered by insurance just over that. But it definitely needs to be changed. | /r/MensRights | 06/07/12 02:32 AM |
| 67 | Obamacare strikes again - DV protection for women, not for men. This is just the beginning.I am so sick of you posting this misleading bullshit. Here is a direct source that contradicts most of these claims. Free birth control for women, but not for men (IOM recommendation only) Because there is no equivalent to birth control for men. When male birth control makes it onto the market, then you can complain if it isn't covered. Free cancer prevention for girls, but no cancer prevention for boys (Guardasil, etc) Blatant lie. The vaccine is now (though only recently) being recommended for… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/12 07:29 PM |
| 1 | In Sweden, Men Can Have It All - NYTimes.com (2010 article)Well, hopefully in a beyond-just-money sense, it will pay for itself in that the children will grow up to be more respectful, caring, educated, and less entitled than kids who would just be shoved in daycare or sat in front of a television. A lot of modern nations also need an incentive to get people to have kids--many European birth rates were plummeting, and it would cause economic collapse to let that happen. So, it'd pay for itself in that sense, too, if it encourages people who wouldn't hav… | /r/MensRights | 05/07/12 04:34 PM |
| 3 | In Sweden, Men Can Have It All - NYTimes.com (2010 article)But those taxpayers without children will benefit when they get old, and are being supported by other people's children. It balances out. | /r/MensRights | 05/07/12 04:12 PM |
| 1 | Look how these women attack me for suggesting that this behavior is not okay. All the other people are female, and this pic was posted with the title "Go ahead, girl, no one is stopping you!"You know, if you want petty revenge on someone, that's actually not a bad idea. How infuriating it would be! | /r/MensRights | 03/07/12 03:00 PM |
| 4 | "In Defense of Men: When did it become OK for women to be sexist?" An article by Kate BartolottaIt's legal in some places, which is why I said "a lot of women" and "socially-acceptable". My being topless in NYC would not be treated the same as a man taking his shirt off, which is never given a second thought in parks in the summer. But you're right we should let women as a whole decide for men how men feel as a whole Those two things (sports bras and declaring how men feel) have nothing in common. I'm just correcting your argument that sports bras are like shirts. They are no more like shi… | /r/MensRights | 02/07/12 03:17 PM |
| 0 | My friend is so right about this [FB]The problem is that the reverse does happen all the time. Which is fine, it should happen. But just because there hasn't been a hit movie about female strippers in a while (don't be so quick to forget Striptease) doesn't mean that equivalently sexy films haven't been made. I mean, look at 100 Girls, or The Girl Next Door, or films like that. But hey, I'm an equal-opporunity harmless objectifyor. Objectification is only bad when you're doing it to a person you're interacting with, when you can't … | /r/MensRights | 02/07/12 03:15 PM |
| 1 | My friend is so right about this [FB]A straight man could not post that and get away with it. I see men do that all the time.... | /r/MensRights | 02/07/12 02:42 PM |
| 10 | "In Defense of Men: When did it become OK for women to be sexist?" An article by Kate BartolottaMen often go jogging or exercise in full public view shirtless. It's not comparable to a shirt at all. For a lot of women, a sports bra is as close as we can get to being topless--both legally, and socially-acceptably speaking. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/12 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Common law husband forced to give $25000 per month to ex partner, $5100 is for pets he bought her. $10000 just wasnt enough, so she asked for $95000.Thinking of things like that is normal; doing them is not. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/12 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Common law husband forced to give $25000 per month to ex partner, $5100 is for pets he bought her. $10000 just wasnt enough, so she asked for $95000.You have to have a lawyer to get a divorce. Lawyers then try to do everything they can. It's a shitty system. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/12 03:41 AM |
| -1 | Women measure a man's worth in dollars.The thirty was an example from the studies, something about the reactions of 44 subjects (30 women), blah blah blah. And no, the control condition doesn't eradicate sample bias. Women who've been taught their whole lives that rich boyfriends are awesome are likely react a lot more strongly when primed to think about a recession than when not primed. It's under stress that a lot of biases become much more apparent than what you might play off under normal circumstances, because of the appearances… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Male vs Female erotica: 50 Shades of hypocrisy by anti-porn crusadersYepp. It's ridiculous. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Male vs Female erotica: 50 Shades of hypocrisy by anti-porn crusadersUsually they tend to support amateur stuff over mass-media porn (where it is more likely that the actresses are being abused or on drugs), but there's a difference between supporting only good, non-exploitative porn, and being against porn at all. Especially among the younger generations, you see a lot of pro-porn ladies. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Male vs Female erotica: 50 Shades of hypocrisy by anti-porn crusadersIt's a pretty well-known historical fact, but yeah, here ya go. And seriously, do any research about it, and you'll see lots of talk about it. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Women measure a man's worth in dollars.Okay, I've been reading through those, and I have some issues with it. Mostly, all of the studies are done on small groups of undergrad students. That's not exactly representative of the population. Thirty to sixty college students aren't going to give you a slice of all women--and it also depends on what college you're at. Sixty sorority sisters at a big party school are a lot more likely to be more invested in rich boyfriends than sixty feminists at a small private school, for example. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 06:04 PM |
| 0 | Male vs Female erotica: 50 Shades of hypocrisy by anti-porn crusadersLook at any of the uproar about birth control before you start saying female sexuality is immune from scrutiny. There are some hypocrites about it, but there are as many hypocrites in the other direction. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:47 PM |
| 3 | Male vs Female erotica: 50 Shades of hypocrisy by anti-porn crusadersIt was originally written as Twilight fanfic, actually, and then the details were changed. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:45 PM |
| 2 | Male vs Female erotica: 50 Shades of hypocrisy by anti-porn crusadersFeminists have always been highly divided on porn, with some sex-positive and others sex-negative. You can't claim there was an original argument from feminists, because they've never agreed on it. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:44 PM |
| -1 | Women measure a man's worth in dollars.Yeah. And the OP takes that "may" and tries to make a big factual statement about it. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:40 PM |
| 5 | Rebuking Feminism: Unplanned PregnancyThis statistic isn't entirely accurate. Unwed doesn't mean single--women have children with boyfriends, or even fiances. My boyfriend's sister, before she miscarried, would have been an unwed mother, because she and her fiance aren't technically wed yet, and wouldn't have been until after the baby. That said, there's also a lot to the whole poverty aspect, and the culture that fosters single parenthood. Also, forty percent of unplanned pregnancies are aborted. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."If paying for OCP's had an appreciable effect on unwanted pregnancy But it does. Source, source, source. Our society just happens to be very pro-abstinence and anti-sex, even though it doesn't work. Most plans do cover birth control, the mandates are just whipping the few who lag (generally for religious reasons) into line. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Yes, that's why I said when you include human error. The more effective types, as in the types that you can't forget, are the more expensive ones. since women who aren't using condoms aren't (on any grand scale) going to use OCP's And what leads you to that conclusion? Because I disagree. Most women I talk to would go on birth control or would use a better kind or get an IUD, if they didn't cost so much money. Also, condoms are still, even with perfect use, not as effective as HBC. perfect use s… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."But condoms aren't nearly as effective as HBC, and the more effective forms of HBC (when you include human error), like the Ring, the shot, the implant, and also IUDs, are the most expensive ones. So a girl who is poor might choose to take the cheap $5 pill, and end up missing one or two now and again or her antibiotics interfere or she gets sick and barfs it back up one time, and is more likely to get pregnant than a girl who got the shot. Also, a lot of people are dumb in the heat of the momen… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 05:01 PM |
| -1 | To /r/feminism: here's what's wrong with redditOkay, well if you're going to be a snot about it, then I'll do what I didn't, and go back through yours: "Oh, let me carry all the groceries." ...because you're a weak frail woman and can't be trusted to do anything for yourself. You may see it as a perk, but I see it as often really demeaning when people try to insist on doing things I'm perfectly capable of doing, and then spend the whole time doubting my ability to carry a box or bag. "Oh, lets design the majority of the legal system to speci… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Actually, the EU has just recently outlawed discriminatory car insurance now. We're way behind them on healthcare, hopefully it'll take us less time to catch up on car insurance. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:20 PM |
| 2 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Yes, but it's not a sexual health bill, it's an all-health bill. There's no reason to fuck over the rest of men's health just because there are a couple of things that aren't covered for men. I really feel like a lot of people lose perspective about that, because everyone just keeps talking about birth control, even though that's a small fraction of the bill. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:19 PM |
| 0 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Actually, half of all pregnancies in America are unintended pregnancies. And that's WITH birth control and condoms around. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Yepp, it's one of the few actual examples of sexism, but it shouldn't be too hard to overcome. Women fought to have birth control be covered when it wasn't but Viagra was, so there's easy precedent. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:11 PM |
| 2 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."For the record, I completely agree with you about it being ridiculous that vasectomies aren't covered. women need more preventative care than men Citation needed. Biology. Preventative care for women includes preventing pregnancy (which, if nothing else, is horrendously expensive, and has a lot of medical side effects). And if you look at the fact sheet on preventative care, 9 out of the 22 women-specific ones are for pregnant women, not just any women; another five are women-specific diseases (… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:10 PM |
| -1 | To /r/feminism: here's what's wrong with redditOkay. Keep in mind, I'm an egalitarian--I'm not denying that there's plenty of sexism that benefits women, but it's just as ludicrous to deny that there's any sexism against women as it is for feminists to claim that there's no sexism against men. I can and have made lists with female privileges, but here are a few for you. Hate to do this one, but if you're going to list something as shallow and non-universal as groceries: "Oh, let me do all the cooking and cleaning." or "Aw, how cute, you're u… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 01:50 PM |
| 4 | To /r/feminism: here's what's wrong with redditLegally speaking however, while men were not living it large or easy (unless they were rich), and poor men were also oppressed in many ways, they did, generally speaking, have more legal rights than a woman of equal status. So legally, yes, Western women were more oppressed. But you're right, when you expand it beyond that frame, playing the Oppression Olympics is absolutely useless, and certainly it doesn't matter today. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 01:16 PM |
| 4 | To /r/feminism: here's what's wrong with redditWhat a shock, all women are individual people with individual wants, not some hive mind. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMBecause everyone is paying that $10,000, so you have a large pool to draw from. Also because not everyone gets dramatically sick--that's why I said 'if not you, then people like you'. Not to mention that when everyone is covered, everyone is paying, rather than going bankrupt, so you don't have to hike medical costs higher and higher to cover the people who will just declare bankruptcy and not pay. Doctors don't have to charge as much, the closer you get to a single-payer system. Eliminating the… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Europe has now outlawed sexist car insurance, hopefully America won't take so long to do that as it did to start catching up on health insurance. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Forty percent of unplanned pregnancies end in abortion. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMNo, it keeps you from fucking yourself. Unless you're a millionaire, if you get seriously injured or ill, or when you inevitably get old (unless you really think you're going to be the one person who lives in perfect health until they die instantly), you aren't going to be able to pay for all of your medical care, and you'd either go bankrupt or end up relying on Medicaid/Medicare or other government programs. And if not you, then certainly people like you. Now you'll have to pay a small fee to … | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."No. I said it's cheaper for health insurance to cover the costs of birth control than the cost of the birth of a child. And yes, insurance does have to cover childbirth, because that's a medical procedure involving doctors and hospitals, just like any disease or injury. Your taxes aren't going to free pills. Are you missing the point that the government isn't paying for any of this? It's still all being done by private insurance companies. This is literally no different than making everyone have… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."...you really don't know how insurance works. With your insurance, you're paying for everyone else using that insurance. What you're paying isn't stockpiled into an account to be used only by you, and only that much. If you get cancer and have to spend hundreds of thousands on treatment, then the women whose birth control you were subsidizing will be paying for your treatment. If you already have insurance, then nothing for you is changing. Absolutely nothing, other than your insurance not being… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 03:16 AM |
| 0 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Because that's how insurance and universal healthcare work. Eventually, you're going to get old (and probably sick or hurt before then), and everyone else will be paying for you. So you pay a minuscule amount now for everyone else. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:57 AM |
| 3 | Victory for Women's Health. Planned Parenthood applauds Supreme Court decision to uphold the Obamacare. "The law will provide access to birth control and [breast] cancer screenings without co-pays, guaranteed direct access to OB/GYN providers..." Women will have free birth control.I don't think you understand how insurance works, then. Also, any time you get sick, or hurt, or eventually old, everyone else will be paying for yours. That way no one goes bankrupt, and everyone pays just a little bit. Do you drive a car? Then you are paying for everyone else's car accidents, too. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMYou only have to pay the "tax" if you can afford insurance but choose not to have it. If you have insurance, you don't have to pay anything extra. | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 02:55 AM |
| -2 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Enjoy living in the oppressive past. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 08:36 PM |
| -2 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Well, tough shit. You don't get to pick what you support and what you don't. Just like I can't opt out of my taxes paying for wars, you can't opt out of insurance covering things that don't directly benefit you. I sure would love it if everyone stopped smoking, so that we wouldn't have to pay for their health problems, but that's just not how the world works. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 08:29 PM |
| -1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Mm, yes, because abstinence is so effective. My point is that it's a monetary fact that giving out free birth control saves money, because abortions and babies are more expensive than a lifetime supply of birth control will ever be. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 08:03 PM |
| 4 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Oh my god, it does not. You are so factually incorrect with these posts, it's horrendous. The prostate PSA test is highly flawed and treatments often have long-term deleterious effects. It has an 80% false positive rate, and: More than half of cancers detected with PSA screening are localized (confined to the prostate), not aggressive at diagnosis, and unlikely to become life-threatening. However, 90 percent of patients receive immediate treatment for prostate cancer, such as surgery or radiatio… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."1) you don't save money by spending, you save by not spending. Nyet. Paying for birth control for a woman's entire life is still cheaper than paying for a single birth. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Why The Obamacare Decision Is Very Good News For Women. Men now pay women frequent and expensive healthcare expenses. "...much of women’s preventative care, including contraception, Pap test, mammograms, and domestic violence screenings, will be covered without copay."Instead, however, we are giving spending taxes to give women FREE birth control rather than research to finally release the male version. There's plenty of research being done on male versions, including the shot as well as a new gel. Free handouts for women at the EXPENSE of men, are nowhere near more valuable than money. I can see how you would think so, though. Almost none of any of this is at the expense of men. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 07:50 PM |
| 4 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMThe problem with that is that women do have more complicated health issues, because of biology. Anything that has parity in levels of care is going to have more care directed for women, because we're the ones with menstrual cycles, pregnancy, and so on. Not to mention that for decades, prescription drugs were not tested on women of childbearing age--even though we absorb said drugs differently than men or post-menopausal women. This resulted in thousands of cases of complications. That's a main … | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 07:48 PM |
| 6 | Female privilege trumps life saving health care for menActually, now that is it recommended for boys to receive the HPV vaccine, they will be covered for it. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 07:39 PM |
| 8 | Victory for Women's Health. Planned Parenthood applauds Supreme Court decision to uphold the Obamacare. "The law will provide access to birth control and [breast] cancer screenings without co-pays, guaranteed direct access to OB/GYN providers..." Women will have free birth control.And what about women who don't use birth control, or monogamous virgins, or to expand, nonsmokers, or thin people, or non-diabetics. I, as a non-diabetic, am helping fund my boyfriend's diabetes supplies. how gosh darn unfair. Men get plenty of benefit from this. They don't get as many benefits as women, which is unfair and should be rectified (vasectomies, and DV counseling are the only sexist examples that hold water), but they certainly don't get nothing. This isn't just about birth control. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMOther reasons to disagree are fine. But the OP punched his whole argument on "women's sex lives are more important than men's lives", and the prostate argument. Then again, while I don't think Obamacare is great, it's sure as shit better than what we had before, so. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 07:25 PM |
| 1 | 75% of women say they wouldn't date men who are unemployedNo, 75% said they would be unlikely to date an unemployed man. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Why I don't like the phrase "Don't stick your dick in crazy."Except that dressing like a slut has been shown to have no to negative correlations with rape. That's what bothers me the most about it. There's nothing wrong with assessing risk ahead of time. The problem comes with blaming the victim. Warning a bro off of a crazy girl by saying "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is different from blaming him for sticking his dick in crazy when his girlfriend trashes his car because she saw him talking to a girl. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 05:17 PM |
| 5 | AskPurdie: secret vasectomy = sociopath (his right to choose)He was lying about it, which is just as awful as lying about birth control. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 05:12 PM |
| 5 | AskPurdie: secret vasectomy = sociopath (his right to choose)Yepp. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Take This Waltz. Why is this billed as a romantic movie?Thoughts are, the reason that it's off kilter is because society and the media are juuuust now starting to acknowledge that the female libido exists. So stories like this are still supposed to be shocking or whatever, because for a woman to be tempted must mean it's a really strong amazing magic thing, whereas men are expected to be tempted. It's sexist towards both. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 05:09 PM |
| 2 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMThe constitutionality of it is a separate debate from whether it's good or not, yes. The person I was originally replying to was insinuating the mandate is a bad thing; I disagree. It seems bad on the surface, but isn't. Then again, I don't think the Constitution has all the answers to everything, and this is one case where if universal healthcare is unconstitutional, we should amend it. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 01:24 PM |
| 45 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMOnly very recently has it been discovered that HPV causes cancers in men, and the vaccine has started to be recommended for boys as well. Obamacare is behind the times on that, because of when it started, and should be updated, not tossed out. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 12:35 PM |
| 8 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMBut eighty percent of prostate test positives are false positives. It's a highly flawed test with dangerous side effects. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 12:33 PM |
| 8 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMI've been running around posting this all over the thread, but it's just really important for people to know that prostate tests have an incredibly high false positive rate (EIGHTY percent false positives), which leads to damaging and dangerous treatments that cause long-term problems. The only medical professionals in favour of the test are the urologists who make a lot of money off of them. Until there's a better test, we shouldn't be running those tests. It's a false flag. Agitating to cover … | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 12:32 PM |
| 16 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMBefore you actually go over the top, you should know that PSA prostate tests have incredibly high levels of false positives, leading to dangerous and unnecessary treatments that have long-term deleterious effects. There's stuff wrong with Obamacare (like not covering vasectomies), but they aren't putting sex lives of women above the lives of men. The prostate test issue is a false flag. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 12:30 PM |
| 7 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMIt doesn't do enough for men, but it certainly doesn't do nothing. The prostate example is a false flag to fly, because widespread prostate testing leads to a LOT of false positives--eighty percent of PSA positives are false, and new studies have shown minimal to no benefit from testing. Source, which also links directly to said study, and includes the recommendation against prostate testing: ““there is moderate certainty that the benefits of PSA-based screening for prostate cancer do not outwei… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 12:26 PM |
| 5 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMThere's also no way to avoid being alive and getting hurt or sick or old. Eventually, you will need medical insurance, period. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 12:09 PM |
| 8 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMWhen you prevent companies from refusing to insure sick people, you do have to make sure people are paying before they are sick. Most people have insurance already, and those who can't afford it won't have to pay. This is literally no different from requiring car insurance to drive a car. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 10:46 AM |
| 4 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMPreviously, health care insurance companies would cover Viagra, but not birth control. Women protested to change that, and got birth control to start being covered, though obviously that's still an issue now. Advocating for yourself can change a lot of things, if you fight for equality rather than trying to take things away from others. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 10:43 AM |
| 13 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMBecause he's acting like it's a tradeoff. Not screening everyone for prostate cancer isn't just about money, it's also about false positives, and men undergoing unnecessary treatment. I don't agree with everything in Obamacare, but it's sure as hell better than what we had before, and he's putting up false arguments. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 10:41 AM |
| 8 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMThe mandate is because the companies can no longer deny coverage for preexisting conditions. If they can't turn you away when you're sick, why would anyone buy health insurance before they get sick? The mandate makes complete sense. If you can't afford it, you're not going to have to pay for it anyways, that is also part of Obamacare. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 10:37 AM |
| 3 | Man's been brutally raped by ex, beaten, bruised, chocked till passed out. Asks in /r/relationship_advice how to tell about this his current GF.Don't blame him right now. Most people who've been raped don't want to call it rape, because no one wants to be a rape victim. Trying to call it something else, trying to make the rapist not a rapist, is a fairly natural reaction of denial. It sucks, but it's not something we can blame him for. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/12 05:37 PM |
| 2 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?Well if that's unfair to them, then the childfree going on social security or any other government aid is unfair to everyone else, because other people's babies are who will be paying for those services to them. | /r/MensRights | 27/06/12 01:38 PM |
| 2 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?You can't just throw out any program that might possibly be abused. Lots of people complain about welfare programs paying for drugs, but Florida's absurdly expensive testing proved that drug use is lower in welfare users than in the regular population. Paid parental leave isn't about making it "economically beneficial" to have children, it's about making it possible to have children without losing your job/sliding into poverty. It's a limited thing that is usually not at full pay, and babies are… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/12 01:35 PM |
| 7 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?Because we need future generations to keep the economy going. Because if you don't have maternity leave, you go back to a world where women are dependent on men, and men have to be providers to have a family. Because if you don't have maternity leave, you discourage the best and brightest, as well as the responsible, from having children, which leads to more of the population being on welfare for life. Because it's the right thing to do, as an advanced society. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 06:28 PM |
| 7 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?The majority of men and women go to work every day and do not leave for children, either because they can't or don't have children. Actually, the majority of people do have children. Only about 15-20% don't, at least in America. Having children is 100% a personal choice, and by the strictest of feminist standards, it is the woman's choice ONLY. But this isn't about feminist standards, this is about reality. Men want to be fathers, too. This affects them, too, because you can't have (as in physic… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 06:26 PM |
| 5 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?The problem with that is when the mother has medical complications that might cause maternity leave to start early or last longer for medical reasons. That also needs to be taken into account somehow. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 06:17 PM |
| 5 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?The slight difference is in regards to breastfeeding. It's such a medically-important thing that, unless the mother is physically/medically unable, it's highly irresponsible and arguably nigh child neglect to not breastfeed. Which means that, between recovery time and the recommend six months to a year of breastfeeding, in most cases, it's really hard for a mother to return to work without negatively affecting the child. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 06:16 PM |
| 7 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?I can think of no other lifestyle choice that warrants enforced time off for said choices, so I see no reason having a child should warrant that. Because no other lifestyle choice creates the next generation. Let's not be disingenuous. Without people having more children, if nothing else there will be economic collapse when everyone ages out of the workforce. We don't want to discourage our best and brightest from contributing to the gene pool, not to mention that we don't want to discourage the… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 06:14 PM |
| 4 | MRAs, where do you stand on pregancy and maternity leave?The problem is that we can't have family-court equality for men (talking about unfair alimony and custody laws) if we go back to expecting women to depend on men. It's an unfortunately complex topic. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 06:11 PM |
| 1 | This is getting out of handNo, I was sexually harassed the once in England, in a scary manner. I was heavily harassed in other parts of Europe. | /r/MensRights | 23/06/12 03:51 AM |
| 3 | Looking at the feminist Reddits.There is also some truth to the fact that if you want a women's perspective on something, you go to TwoX, but if you want a male perspective, there's the rest of reddit. So, OneY is good for talking about men's problems and such, but TwoX is equal parts periods, rape, feminism, shoes, makeup, hair, weddings, fashion, getting jobs, relationships, female reactions to other things, etc. It's a much more broad spectrum. | /r/MensRights | 22/06/12 04:17 PM |
| 1 | This is getting out of handTo be fair, my sample size was a bunch of nineteen and twenty year olds at an artsy uni back in 2008, so. Blind eye examples include when I was harassed for a good twenty minutes, being followed around from one bus shelter to another, by an obviously drunk/high guy trying to offer me 500 pounds to go home with him, which escalated to him touching my hair repeatedly and me slapping his hand away while threatening to call the police, at the rather crowded Elephant and Castle stop area, surrounded … | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 10:01 PM |
| 1 | This is getting out of handYeah, I mean ginger, as in natural red hair, not box red. Well, not that I'm a stereotypical ginger at all (I'm not of Irish or Scottish descent), but. Still looks quite different from the box colour. For the groping, a good friend of mine from NI said it was totally normal, as did my flatmates, who also didn't think it was creepy to have a drunk guy follow you home after you turn them down. But, I did make sure to say some, because that was just the couple of times it came up. I must say, thoug… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 08:38 PM |
| 4 | This is getting out of handI'm a redhead. They still don't really like us over there. I still got creeped on a few times, despite avoiding both clubs and being out at night (a lot of people in the UK seem to think groping is a-ok without permission, at clubs), but generally speaking, I didn't really get hit on and it was refreshing, and quite noticeable. (Also, did not only apply to men--I also no longer had to conversations about my hair with every other middleaged lady I passed.) Then I went traveling around other parts… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 07:49 PM |
| 1 | This is getting out of handSorry I missed the sarcasm, the OP agreeing with you made it invisible, heh. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 07:18 PM |
| 1 | This is getting out of handWomen objectify and perv privately, yes. Most women have never gone up to an attractive guy and started a conversation with "Hey I've got a home for that anaconda you have, mm baby". | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 06:42 PM |
| 2 | This is getting out of handAnd that is different how, exactly, from the men in here saying "All women are shallow, ugh, they only care about looks and money. Why won't a woman like a nice guy like me?" There are stereotyping bigoted assholes of both genders. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 06:39 PM |
| 0 | This is getting out of handNo. The solution is to stop this bullshit about "be attractive don't be unattractive". If people keep encouraging them to think that it's only about looks, rather than analyzing the actual behaviour, or pretending that hot guys get away with being creepy, they're only going to keep crashing and burning. I was criticising that stupid bullshit, not supporting creep-shaming--that's why I said both sides need to stop being idiots about it. And I really doubt you can support the idea that there are p… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 06:31 PM |
| 1 | This is getting out of handThe only time I ever see "don't be unattractive" actually play out in real life (note: I don't really go to bars and my university didn't have Greek, so I'm sure there's a class of people I never observe) is when it's about age. And I have to agree with the people who think that a man shouldn't be out hitting on strange girls young enough to be his daughter or granddaughter, especially when said girls are teenagers. The other thing is that a lot of the 'not up to par' guys are really just social… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 05:47 PM |
| 2 | This is getting out of handHa! Wow. That's a great story. Alas, I'm alone a lot, so whenever I get legit harassed, it's when I don't have anyone around to help. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 03:07 PM |
| 3 | This is getting out of handI guess it depends on what you mean by aggressive. The image was about complaining about being hit on, so I thought you meant why someone would complain so furiously about something so easy to defuse, and was thus trying to explain that it isn't always easy to defuse, and thus can merit venting after the fact. For responding, I go the pointedly-ignoring people route for total-stranger-on-the-street approaches most of the time, because that's where most of the crazies tend to pop up, and polite, … | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 02:40 PM |
| 2 | This is getting out of handUnfortunately, it seems like there's a lot of confusion between people conflating vs separating the two. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 02:08 PM |
| 2 | This is getting out of handHave you seen any of the tumblrs and such where women post the messages they receive from people? "Hey you're pretty and you seem really cool, I like this book too, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah" is someone hitting on you on a dating site. "hey babee ur so hot u want sum hot beef i promis ill lick u good" is some pervert man hitting on you on a dating site. Not all 'hitting on' is the same. When you hear someone complaining about being hit on, don't assume it was just some guy politely… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:46 PM |
| 5 | This is getting out of handYoga pants are comfortable, not an invitation to comment on someone's body. Anyone who would go up to a stranger and say something more explicit than "You're pretty" or "You look nice" is a creep, it doesn't matter what they're wearing. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:43 PM |
| -1 | This is getting out of handBut everyone here parrots the whole "Be attractive don't be unattractive" bullshit, saying that a girl calling a guy a creep is wholly dependent on his looks. Both sides need to stop being idiots about this thing. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:39 PM |
| 10 | This is getting out of handPlease stop using universal statements. Some women are idiots. But plenty of us don't use creep or harassment unless justified, and most of us don't turn a blind eye to attractive creepy people. Objectively hot people can be creepy and harass people, too. For an example, Italians are my type. I was totally excited about the idea of going to Italy. But when I got there, I discovered how terribly most of them treat tourist women (it's socially encouraged), and was so turned off by all of it. Doesn… | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:37 PM |
| 6 | This is getting out of handsay you wanna go about your day and not be bothered, and don't think you're attractive... but you've posted to NSFW subreddits? That is irrelevant. I like to walk around naked and be ogled by my boyfriend, but when I am out in normal clothing doing my grocery shopping, I want to be left alone. What she does in her home with her body doesn't matter for how she should be treated out in public. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:32 PM |
| 0 | This is getting out of handHow often do people call harmless men creeps, though, honestly? When I hear women complaining about creeps, it's because people were creepy, not because they were unattractive. Because they kept pressing after being turned down, or because they started in a wholly inappropriate manner, or because they tried to use the shitty offensive parts of "Game". | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:31 PM |
| 2 | This is getting out of handOne might go on a dating site, especially one that lets you say you're looking only for long-term dating and so on, without expecting to get explicit sexual messages. If someone says they're looking for casual sex, then it might be conceivably appropriate to introduce yourself by talking about how you want to worship their pussy. Otherwise, no. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:28 PM |
| 2 | This is getting out of handBecause sometimes it is. Most people are fine. But for every five guys that accept it just fine, there's one who will respond to "I have a boyfriend" with "Well, where he is?" or "He doesn't have to know" or "You won't get rid of me that easily". And there's the guy who will scream expletives after you because he's so offended that you don't want to go suck his cock. I disagree with the "Schroedinger's Rapist" thing, but there's definitely a "Schroedinger's Asshole/Crazy Guy" for guys that come … | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:27 PM |
| 3 | This is getting out of handNot every single one. I preferred it, when the levels dropped significantly while I was in England. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:23 PM |
| 4 | This is getting out of handNo. You guys keep repeating this, but it's just not true, except for a small minority of asshole women, who are certainly equaled in number by douchbro men who feel the same way about unattractive or fat women. There is no level of attractiveness that would somehow compensate for a guy miming oral sex at me, or "introducing" himself via yelling about my ass across the street, or "asking me out" to blow him. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:17 PM |
| 2 | This is getting out of handMost women don't want to get rid of men, no matter what the crazy feminazis might try to imagine as a dream land. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:13 PM |
| 20 | This is getting out of handThe vast majority of women acknowledge that there's nothing perverted about looking or glancing, just about leering and staring (and beyond). | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 01:12 PM |
| 3 | Blatantly misogynist? I don't think so... (Feminist "friend" accuses me of sexism and unfriends me) What do you think?It depends on context. If someone is prefacing every statement with "I'm a girl, and", then yeah, they're probably looking for attention. And all statements should stand on their own merits. But sometimes, your background adds value. Like, I'm a woman, and I support men's rights; that matters if there is an accusation is about being self-centered or blind to privilege (or an accusation that women are all against men), doesn't matter if we're just talking an issue. Or, I'm a woman who enjoys comi… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/12 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Another famous athlete falsely accused of rape. This time, LA Kings defenseman Drew DoughtyThe problem is, the headline says he's falsely accused. But that's not a fact yet--he is just accused. Being accused of something doesn't make you guilty. He can maintain his innocence, yes, but as outside observers, the headline is blatantly biased. He is an athlete accused of rape. He is neither guilty of rape nor is the accusation false until there's evidence one way or the other. Innocent until proven guilty does not mean that accusations are false until proven otherwise; insufficient eviden… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/12 05:17 PM |
| 5 | Blatantly misogynist? I don't think so... (Feminist "friend" accuses me of sexism and unfriends me) What do you think?The argument blew out of control, but I have serious issues with the sexism inherent in "There are no girls on the internet". Because it's false--we are girls, and we are on the internet. Being a girl is part of who we are, and we are not girls just for you, or for other men. I am a girl regardless of whether there are men around or not, especially regardless of whether there are men fawning on me or not. To be told that my identity doesn't exist unless a man is looking at me is offensive. I'm s… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/12 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Another famous athlete falsely accused of rape. This time, LA Kings defenseman Drew DoughtyNo. If it's not right to call someone a rapist based solely on an accusation because you want to believe it is true, it is also not right to call someone a liar based solely on wanting to believe that what they said is false. An unproven accusation is not a false accusation. You are equating unproven with false. That is no better than feminists thinking that every accused rapist not convicted of rape is a true rapist who got away with it. Is her story likely a load of bull? Yes. But let's not be… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/12 04:25 PM |
| 0 | Another famous athlete falsely accused of rape. This time, LA Kings defenseman Drew DoughtyThat's leaping to as many conclusions as anyone who says "Another famous athlete rapes a woman". Until we have definitive evidence one way or the other, please refrain from definitive statements. This is what "might", "allegedly", and other such words are for. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/12 03:57 PM |
| 0 | Another famous athlete falsely accused of rape. This time, LA Kings defenseman Drew DoughtyNyet. Innocent until proven guilty also applies to the accuser. Until you prove it's a lie, you take both the accusation and the presumption of innocence equally seriously. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/12 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is a "safe place"?Not necessarily. "Safe spaces" have their place, as places for venting and support. But not for political discussion. Especially for people who are suffering from trauma, it can be really important to have a place where you can talk about your problems without worrying about someone reacting with vitriol or disgust, to have an audience only of people who understand. The purpose is acceptance. But this only applies for support groups. A recovering alcoholic, for example, might need an AA-type spa… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/12 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Paternity Blood Tests That Work Early in a Pregnancy - NYTimes.comBesides relieving anxiety, the test results might allow women to terminate a pregnancy if the preferred man is not the father — or to continue it if he is. Before everybody jumps all over this, this does have real-life, non-scummy applications, mainly applying to the consensually nonmonogamous. Say you have a threesome and the condom breaks, or whatever. You might not want to abort your husband's child, but also not want to carry the stud's kid. I think this is a great thing. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/12 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Chivalry is dead? LOLWell, that's because girls can't just whip it out and pee. There's undoing your pants, sitting down, then the peeing, then wiping (and sometimes taking care of menstrual stuff), and then putting all your clothes back in place. It just factually takes longer. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/12 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Chivalry is dead? LOLThe only time cutting a bathroom line may be justified is for pregnant women--you don't necessarily have full control over your bladder when a baby is stomping on it. Then again, I've on multiple occasions let people who seemed like they needed to go more (like, doing a pee dance) go before me, so. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/12 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Somewhere along the line, something went very, very wrong with this Kickstarter thingIt is a shallow problem, but it's irksome in the context of someone only using clinical terms for females. Like, addressing a group of males as "Hey, men" or "Hey, guys", but women as "Hey, females". It is an example of people who think men are people, but women are Other. Also, female/male are vague adjectives, and really shouldn't be used as nouns for people. It's dehumanizing, like using "it" to talk about a person. So, it's not baseless, but it's an irksome problem to be mentioned when it co… | /r/MensRights | 18/06/12 04:27 PM |
| 2 | The "Women are Wonderful" effectFor me, I think the term 'benevolent sexism' has its place--when it is non-hostile sexism being directed at whomever. The expectation on the man to have to sacrifice for women is sexism towards him; the coddling patronization towards the women (when this type of thing is expressed in a "Oh, don't worry your pretty little head about a career, darlin'!" fashion, and not an entitled "You don't have to work, get a man to do it for you) would be the benevolent sexism. Benevolent sexism towards men th… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 08:36 PM |
| 0 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!Just because something can be misused doesn't mean that it's inherently bad. Some things are--using misleading information, distorting facts, logical fallacies, knowingly cherrypicking information for your side, etc. But the definiton of shame is "A painful feeling of humiliation or distress caused by the consciousness of wrong or foolish behavior." Making people who are wrong or foolish aware of that fact isn't a bad thing, so long as they are actually wrong or foolish. Which is why I don't wan… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 02:31 PM |
| 0 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!Wow. The sexism you're displaying by thinking that making female characters who are well-rounded will mean "sissified" games is just... staggering. This isn't about being politically correct. It's about treating female characters like people, not objects. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 01:50 PM |
| 0 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!Now you're moving the goalposts. "People who don't play games shouldn't complain about them." "Well, she does play games." "Well, then, she should just go make her own games! She's only one person!" She's not only one person though. You're committing the No True Scotsman fallacy, by insisting on believing that only people who are happy with the status of the gaming industry play games. We can have a problem with something while still generally enjoying it and just wishing it were better. Also, i… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!I'll agree there. It shouldn't be about making things PC, but about making well-rounded characters and good stories. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!But the point is that they are still male-oriented fantasies. They're what men think will be attractive to women, as opposed to what is actually attractive for women. The women are intended for straight men, but so are the men. It's a false equivalence. One of my biggest problems with movies and video games is that a pretty woman is your reward. Yes, it's a fantasy, but there's very rarely an actual romantic story in the plot, and the woman is treated more like a cherry on top. Almost an afterth… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:50 PM |
| 2 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!Not real like real life, but having realistic characters rather than cardboard cutouts. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:41 PM |
| 2 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!I don't like the idea that analyzing and addressing negative gender stereotypes in any medium will result in lower quality games. The point is generally to spur people to not be lazy and indulge in stereotypes, but to actually put thought and effort into characters and worldbuilding. It's like the comic books debate about similar issues regarding women, minorities, and homosexuality. Sure, it's easier for the artists to draw all the same body shapes, and eye candy will draw in an audience regard… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:38 PM |
| 0 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!Well, sometimes moral shaming is called for. Just like we had to agitate to get better media depictions of black people, and we still are agitating for better depictions of gay people, and how we should agitate more for better depictions of men in commercials and sitcoms. Sometimes, things are bigoted, and need to change. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:37 PM |
| 0 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!That isn't relevant in this argument, because the original girl is an avid video game player. But a lot of the people I know who don't play them tried a few out, but lost interest because of their problems with how women were depicted. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:35 PM |
| 2 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!I think there are much better ways to address this than by throwing money at men with no credentials who are obviously aping the girl's female version. For example, by getting academics, or at least people who have been writing about gender issues for a while like she has been, not just random dudes. A, we don't know if we can trust them and the possibility of scam is high, and B, no one's going to care about videos made by nobodies with no qualifications other than their gender. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:25 PM |
| 1 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Nice straw man there. Always glad to see intellectual integrity on the internet. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:16 PM |
| 1 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Yeah--they didn't have it because they didn't understand the concept of actually owning land. They would establish tribal rights to using the things on the land, but the idea of owning land is very different from the idea of having set territories. The land didn't belong to them, it was just their territory to hunt. And I did use qualifiers. That's why I specified pre-agricultural groups, versus Ancient Greeks, versus the changes throughout Christian history. Did you miss that part? The bit abou… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 03:18 AM |
| 3 | (Not so) subtle sexism on /r/deadbedrooms FlowchartI was originally thinking that maybe the creator was sexistly assuming a woman would be aware of a decrease in attractiveness and already have tried that type of thing (sexism of a different kind, that assumption), but no, it just seems very anti-porn and male-blaming. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/12 08:00 PM |
| 1 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Native Americans understood tribal territory, but did not have private, individual land ownership. There's a difference between the two. And yes, that was turned into a very convenient excuse by whites to move them off of their ancestral lands. Did I say they were terrified? No. "Fear of the unknown" doesn't mean you think the unknown is a boogeyman, but it often leads to people not wanting to face something and just trying to keep it out of your sphere. As for C sections, the first recorded mot… | /r/MensRights | 14/06/12 11:51 AM |
| 1 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Some of them still got married young. But my point is that while men didn't have complete freedom, they had somewhat more freedom of choice than women did. There are certainly stories of men being told not to marry whom they wanted, but if a man wanted to remain unmarried for a long time, it was considered perfectly acceptable. He didn't have to marry until he was ready. Also, Darcy and Knightley both had their fortunes for quite a long while, and Brandon almost married young but his family mean… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 04:45 PM |
| 1 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Well no, not really. Emma features George Knightley, who is in his late thirties who has never married and in no rush to do so with no great criticism of that choice (whereas Emma at 20 and similarly uninterested in marriage is seen to be odd for a woman). Colonel Brandon in Sense and Sensibility starts off as 35 and unmarried, and doesn't get hitched until he's 37 (to a nineteen-year-old girl). The famous Mr Darcy is 28 or 29. Part of it arises from the fact that the men were expected to be abl… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 04:01 PM |
| 21 | Divorced mothers who refuse to give their former husbands access to their children could be hit with penalties under new plans to change the lawWell, yes, it's a given that actually abusive fathers should be separate. But we're talking about mothers who are defying court-ordered custody arrangements. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 02:16 PM |
| 3 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]You are ignorant, but it's not your fault, so I'm going to respond to your question rather than downvoting you. History is long and patchy, but as best we can tell, "patriarchy" style society didn't exist until agriculture. When we were nomadic hunters, everyone contributed equally because they very much had to, and while some gender roles existed (which we can tell by studying the stone-age type tribes still around today), they weren't about control, and instead grew out of the biological diffe… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 01:55 PM |
| 2 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Angry ignorance. He's comparing poor men to rich women, which is no less disingenuous than acting like only rich people existed (the way many feminists do). | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 01:33 PM |
| 3 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Feminism has a long history of focusing mainly on white, upper-class women, yes. It's a serious flaw. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 01:32 PM |
| 2 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]Don't deride someone else's choices. You like your hobbies, that's fine. Other people are driven to business or politics. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 01:24 PM |
| 2 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]It depends on your perspective for better off, too. The racism at the time was staggering, but legally, we valued men over women so much that black men were given the right to vote long before women were (even if many tried to still deprive them of this right). Also, please don't forget that textile mills (where many poor women worked) were just about as damaging to the lungs as coal mines, and that history really likes to pretend that prostitutes didn't exist. There used to be tons of prostitut… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 01:23 PM |
| 0 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]He did, though. Just because he didn't have complete and utter freedom (a fact many people, particularly feminists, do forget), he could choose his career, his education, and when he wanted to get married--old stories are generally full of older bachelors. A higher class woman didn't get to choose much of anything, besides how she wanted to style her hair or decorate the home. He had more options than she, just not unlimited options. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 01:19 PM |
| 27 | Divorced mothers who refuse to give their former husbands access to their children could be hit with penalties under new plans to change the lawActually, it's not a generalization. TheDongerNeedsFood specified transferring resources from these fathers, and that that the group of conniving cunts is made up of mothers who think they're justified in separating children from their fathers. Not all mothers are terrible, but the system very much is there to aid and abet any mother who is terrible. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/12 12:49 PM |
| 17 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]How? I listed occupations that also killed and maimed their workers but that were dominated by women during that time period. You're comparing a coal miner to a woman who takes care of the home. How about I compare a textile mill worker with missing fingers and lungs full of textile fibers dying a slow death to a shopkeeper or a short order cook, or a syphilitic prostitute being beaten by a pimp to a journalist? Then suddenly it's the woman who is suffering more. It's why you can't play Who Is M… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 08:14 PM |
| 1 | The False Equivocation of "Sluts" and "Studs"But that's not what people do. Most of the time I hear people call someone a slut, it's about the clothing she's wearing, for crying out loud. I've also never seen a female 'stud' celebrated--maybe if you bag one celebrity or hot guy, but The Banger Sisters is an example of female 'studs' who were only hooking up with high-status men being looked at in a very negative fashion. No one ever thinks groupies are impressive. As for seducing men with the power of your intellect being celebrated social… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 08:09 PM |
| 5 | Do any other MRA's (besides myself) have trouble dating based on your (improved imo) views? Serious question.The point is that it isn't your views that give you trouble. Women aren't avoiding dating you because you're a MRA who doesn't want to get married or have children, they're avoiding you because you don't want to get married or have children. Most importantly, because you do not want children. The majority of people want to have children, so why would they date you with such a big difference in life goals? It'd be different if you were meeting other women who didn't want to get married or have ki… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 08:01 PM |
| 15 | How can feminists say with a straight face that women were oppressed because they were made to work at home. What do you think men were made to do? [imgur]And you are expanding the suffering of coal miners to the suffering of all males. Please don't forget that most coal miners had wives or sisters who worked in mills as well, filling their lungs with fibers just as damaging as coal dust, and that the career available to a lot of poverty-stricken women was prostitution, which back in the days before protection meant a life full of debilitating and often fatal diseases, if they managed to survive childbirth. Now, I am completely agree that feminist… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Are males becoming second-class citizens?...gesticulating cancer? | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 05:42 PM |
| 0 | The definition of hypergamySometimes I forget what a bigoted hypocrite you are. Sexism towards both sexes! | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:49 PM |
| 9 | Gay shaming has to stopIf that were the intention, you'd call him a neuter or a eunuch, or ask where his balls are, not tell him he has female genitalia and thus must be female. Not all questions of manliness are insulting to women (though they're still insulting to men), but calling someone a pussy is. The phrase is calling someone a vagina as an insult. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Gay shaming has to stopHow about the lesbians who get gang-raped? Corrective rape is a much bigger for lesbians than it is for gay men. Not that this is the oppression olympics--lesbians do tend to be dismissed rather than feared the way gay men are. It's just disingenuous to claim they're not in physical danger. I can only name Matthew Shepherd off the top of my head for lynched gay men, to be fair. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:44 PM |
| 10 | Gay shaming has to stopYou just kinda sound like the people who argue that "gay" as an insult just means stupid now, and isn't insulting gay people anymore. That argument has never made sense to me. Boys are called pussies when they cry or are too physically weak to do something. Neither of which is really an insult to girls since they're true. Boys not crying is a damn shame but physical strength is just the tradeoff for a womb. Also... no. Saying that being an emotional wreck is part of being a girl is insulting. Al… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:38 PM |
| 4 | The definition of hypergamyAh yes. All women want to bang all famous people and cheat on their boyfriends/husbands always, just like all men want to have sex with every woman always and will rape any girl if given the opportunity to. This is disgusting hypocrisy, and the comments here are even worse. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:29 PM |
| 3 | The definition of hypergamyAnd if you heard a woman talking about how she doesn't want her husband having female friends because she knows that all men want to have sex with all women all the time, you'd defend that statement just as much as you'd defend this one? | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Gay shaming has to stopBecause you brought them up as a group. You said that critiques of the PUA community are about slut-shaming. I'm arguing that critiques of the PUA community are generally not about how much sex they're having, but about some of the techniques they use to do so, and that conflating the two is dishonest. And I did define what I meant by misogynistic behaviour--the stuff about negging and LMR. Those are PUA terms. It's not irrelevant left-handed-child-rape stuff. I'm talking about a few specific PU… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 10:22 AM |
| 5 | Gay shaming has to stopYeah. There are always legit creepy comments, but calling someone pretty isn't creepy. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Gay shaming has to stopSigh. I don't have a problem with all of them. I even SAID that not all the techniques are bad, just some. I've stood up for the gd pickup community when they're painted with a broad brush. I'm not slut shaming anyone--I don't care who they're fucking. I'm shaming, if I'm shaming anything at all, the people who choose to use manipulative, hurtful techniques to do so--and that applies to women as much as men. Most of the critiques of PUAs have nothing to do with how many women they sleep with, bu… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 04:16 AM |
| 0 | Gay shaming has to stopNnnng, I wouldn't say that's accurate. "Slut" isn't used only to attack manipulatively sexual women. You can't call an outfit PUA-y, for example. The seduction community is by and large attacked because of their negative views towards sex and women often found and advocated for within (not all pickup techniques are bad, but some are), not because of the quantity of sex being had. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:44 AM |
| 4 | Gay shaming has to stopWell, I've certainly heard women being insulted for not being able to get laid, generally fat women. And there is some prude-shaming towards women, too. A much better analogue, in my opinion, is creep-shaming. There's legitimately creepy behaviour and creepy people, just like there are women who have destructive sexualities (who have unsafe sex, for example), but a lot of men are called creeps just for having a libido, while women are celebrated for the same act. Check out a girl? You're a creep… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:41 AM |
| 11 | Gay shaming has to stopThere's value in talking about heteronormativity. Not as a boogeyman, but it's unfair to assume that everyone's straight, because a substantial portion of the population isn't. There's nothing wrong with trying to encourage people to ask "Do you have a significant other" rather than "Do you have a girlfriend", for example. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:35 AM |
| 25 | Gay shaming has to stopThe thing is, the "polite" way to call someone a pussy is to call them a girl. Any line about "Don't be such a pussy" can be replaced with "Don't be such a girl" and the meaning remains the same. So, whether it's intentional or not, it's certainly demeaning women. It's devaluing the other person by using the other gender as an insult. No one uses tomboy as a common insult. Generally, if a woman's femininity is in question, she'll be called a dyke or a prude, not a man or a dick. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/12 03:32 AM |
| 3 | VAWA abuse right under my nose ...Her thoughts/actions about this are nasty, but people can get pretty messed up by bad relationships. My mom and dad were both miserable to each other, to the point where my sister almost didn't attend my dad's wedding because she liked our stepmom and didn't want to see him be a terrible person to her like he was to our mom. But they're so much better for each other, and he's really turned around. It's no excuse for bad behaviour, at all, but not everyone is irredeemably terrible. | /r/MensRights | 11/06/12 02:02 PM |
| 1 | It Is Never OK to Trick a Man Into FatherhoodUgh, that's just sick. I was a genuine mistake baby, but I know my mom didn't do it on purpose, and she had commented that she wanted to have my sister closer to me than she is (she's five years younger), but my dad was insistent on waiting til I was out of diapers for a year before starting to try again, and she miscarried inbetween, and aborted a different pregnancy before that that was an ill-timed mistake (lesson learned? my mom is bad at birth control). It's really heartening to know that w… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/12 07:20 PM |
| 2 | It Is Never OK to Trick a Man Into FatherhoodOkay, if you're looking at it like that, then I suppose I'd agree with you. But the rest of that definition is "before making a decision". The fact that this is something that is often socially reinforced is actually why I give people who would think about it on more than a passing level a little bit of slack. If it's a serious disagreement about children (not just "I want to make sure he stays with me" type thing, but say, a married couple disagreeing about children like this woman detailed, ev… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/12 07:10 PM |
| 1 | It Is Never OK to Trick a Man Into FatherhoodConsidering isn't really anything terrible. We consider lots of things that we'd never actually do. One might consider cheating, consider robbing a bank, consider shoplifting. We all have a selfish drive that makes us think about things that would make us happy. The reason it stays a consideration, though, is because we then consider how these acts would affect others. To consider entrapment pregnancies and not go through with it actually shows more moral character than not doing something illeg… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/12 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Just a thought after seeing the 666th thousdand "big girls are best " facebook pics.These things often come from men, too. I've seen a lot of men comment about celebrities and models, going "ew look at that bag of bones" and so on. It happens with breast size, too. Any time the topic comes up, you see men chiming in with "I'm a man and I love small boobs, because big boobs are saggy and gross!!" No surprise that women say similar things. A lot of people don't understand how to support something they like that goes against the mainstream without attacking the mainstream. You can… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/12 04:31 PM |
| 3 | Just a thought after seeing the 666th thousdand "big girls are best " facebook pics.Because shaming people doesn't do anything but make them feel bad. Shaming doesn't help. I don't think we should be encouraging fat people, but making someone feel like shit doesn't give them motivation to get better, it just makes them seek refuge in negative rewards even more. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/12 04:27 PM |
| 7 | "Two female moderators, who chose to remain anonymous, talk about how they counter the rampant sexism on the site with a Shit Reddit Says subreddit"Man. If you've only been with women who treat blowjobs as just something nice they do for you but they don't really understand why, that's pretty sad. I mean, I know they're out there and all, but so are plenty of women who love giving head and get off on it. The equivalent of a blowjob is cunnilingus, not frigging flowers. End of story. But my point isn't just that blowjobs are nothing like flowers, but that they shouldn't be treated like them, and any relationship where they're on the same lev… | /r/MensRights | 08/06/12 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Why feminists MUST support DNA paternity testing -- and why they are afraid of itSome of it is to "protect" men's souls from lust. A lot of stuff like not showing your hair, etc, is about "protecting" men's thoughts from temptation, regardless of actions. The separation required of some women while menstruating doesn't have babies behind it, either. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/12 10:26 PM |
| 5 | As a Black American male, I must say that this article is without a doubt, the MOST spot on descripstion as to why I simply can't and wont marry an AMERICAN Black woman, or any other woman living in America as a matter of fact.Right, because no man has ever said sexist things about other men. Or are you trying to say that black people can't be racist, just like women can't be sexist? :) | /r/MensRights | 07/06/12 10:25 PM |
| 0 | As a Black American male, I must say that this article is without a doubt, the MOST spot on descripstion as to why I simply can't and wont marry an AMERICAN Black woman, or any other woman living in America as a matter of fact.Yes, to not want to give pageviews to a racist, sexist article is exactly the same as being a bigot. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/12 10:23 PM |
| 0 | As a Black American male, I must say that this article is without a doubt, the MOST spot on descripstion as to why I simply can't and wont marry an AMERICAN Black woman, or any other woman living in America as a matter of fact.I'm not even going to bother to read it, because the entire premise is sexist and racist. It's one thing to be wary of a certain culture's teachings, and maybe not seek out someone from there. But to write off millions of women without bothering to know them at all? That's the definition of bigotry. It makes you just as bad as any harpy talking about how all men are pigs, or any overbearing mother who thinks all men are potential child molesters. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/12 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Why feminists MUST support DNA paternity testing -- and why they are afraid of itBecause the need to know paternity evolves into an obsession with purity. Because even if a woman doesn't get pregnant, if she's less than virginal, a lot of places consider her to be sullied. It gets bigger than being just about babies. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/12 06:46 PM |
| 6 | "Two female moderators, who chose to remain anonymous, talk about how they counter the rampant sexism on the site with a Shit Reddit Says subreddit"This is true as well. You may be disgusted by it or you may not like it, but this is how guys act. There are no women on the internet. This is because, regardless of what you are, sitting at your computer, on the internet, you have no boobs and no womanly features that otherwise make men act differently. Like with the racism, you would be a fool deny this happens. In fact women wear tight clothes et cetera to show off their bodies. On the internet you lose this and so people revert to who they a… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/12 06:43 PM |
| 1 | A nice infograph showing how repressed men really are in society.It's really hard to answer that question. Things I find attractive don't generally come in an ABC format like that, I don't rank them in a singular format. There are things that are instant ladyboners, things that are generally attractive, things that are interesting perks, things that are neutral, things that are turnoffs, and things that are dealbreakers. So I guess in that sense, maybe, something that's the tops for me will always be more attractive than an interesting perk. But it's not like… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/12 10:44 AM |
| 4 | A nice infograph showing how repressed men really are in society.There are plenty of countries that support much more generous parental leaves than the US (where we get only 12 weeks unpaid guaranteed, anything else is offered by the company of its own free will), without failing. You may claim it's bad for business, but a lot of the rest of the world would disagree with you. We don't want our society to be discouraging responsible people from having children. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/12 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Pregnimony?!?! Sounds like a bad idea...Yeah, an opt-in for the tax benefits would be much, much better. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 08:42 PM |
| 1 | The Broken Social ContractMen are more visual, maybe, but that doesn't mean women aren't visual. Like I said about musicians, and bad boys. They aren't high-status, or rich, but they're still traditionally very enticing to women. There are plenty of romcoms about women not going after the best-on-paper option, too. Look at The Notebook--she leaves her rich society fiance for her old, poor boyfriend. Leap Year, she leaves her rich doctor fiance and their perfect classy apartment for a poor Irish pub owner barely scraping … | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 06:52 PM |
| 1 | The Broken Social Contractand feminine men are generally unattractive to most women Have you looked at pop stars? Look at Justin Bieber. Look at Twilight. As for 'masculine' women, you might be right about looks, but not about dominance. Dominatrixes have always been popular. Lots of people fall into stereotypes, but there's something for everyone. Your claim is laughably naive. The second paragraph is just, ugh. It's an imaginary problem. Men are no more or less 'eternally adolescent' than women are, today. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 06:30 PM |
| 4 | A nice infograph showing how repressed men really are in society.That's a really sexist thing to say. Yes, a lot of women are socialised to care about money. But it's not an inherent gender thing, and it's not a universal rule. Money can be attractive, but look at the stereotype of girls all over dead-end local musicians whose careers never take off so they keep mooching off of her. The typical bad boy that makes women go weak in the knees usually isn't rolling in dough. There are a lot of things that factor into attraction. It's like claiming men like dumb w… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 06:26 PM |
| 2 | The White House’s use of data on the gender wage gap. Fact: women in general work fewer hours than men in a year, i.e. teacher earn avg $55k yearly but do not work summers and have long breaks. Also broad comparisons are inherently problematic.The teachers aren't complaining. People who don't like the inaccurate statistics are complaining about them being misleading. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 05:35 PM |
| 4 | The Broken Social ContractHasn't all the stuff with the gender gap shown that women just don't want to go be CEOs, though, and tend to still prefer traditional jobs? I'd throw a shit fit if people tried to tell me I had to do something because I'm a girl, but I still cook and garden and shave my legs and wear pretty dresses. The roles evolved because we tend to fall into them, and problems only arise when you try to force people who don't want to go with the flow into a gender role that doesn't fit their personality. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 05:16 PM |
| -1 | Pregnimony?!?! Sounds like a bad idea...So many people didn't seem to read the part saying that it would have to have an opt out, and is meant to incentivize men to be involved by giving them tax breaks for the money spent without forcing them to get married for said tax breaks. Edit: I don't support the idea, but the article isn't about FORCING men to pay. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Pregnimony?!?! Sounds like a bad idea...If you read the whole thing, they suggest it have an opt-out, and that it's to help men write the money off on their taxes so they aren't being penalized for being an unwed couple. It's not a terrible idea, if they actually stuck to that setup. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Pregnimony?!?! Sounds like a bad idea...If you read the article, the one suggesting it wants there to be an opt-out, especially for non-consensual sex or cases where the woman deceived her partner into getting her pregnant. Also, a big part of her motivation is to get the men tax breaks on the money spent, to prevent shotgun marriages, apparently. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:51 PM |
| 0 | Pregnimony?!?! Sounds like a bad idea...A lot of you seem to have missed this important section: Creating the structure for that is complicated, but in the meantime she believes we can support men who are willing to pay their fair share through tax laws, just like alimony. Currently, any financial help a man contributes toward his lover's pregnancy is considered a gift or child support, and thus offers him no tax benefits. Alimony payments do, however, and she argues preglimony should, too. Not only will it "reward and encourage men w… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:50 PM |
| 3 | Question about the Barnes & Nobel incident.Yepp. How else would I be able to buy books for my friends' kids? | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:47 PM |
| 1 | The Broken Social ContractPlease give some specific examples. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:44 PM |
| 4 | The Broken Social ContractNo. It's just better for everyone to let people choose those roles rather than forcing them into it. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:44 PM |
| 1 | The Broken Social ContractPlenty of men enjoy being big, tough, and masculine. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:43 PM |
| 9 | The White House’s use of data on the gender wage gap. Fact: women in general work fewer hours than men in a year, i.e. teacher earn avg $55k yearly but do not work summers and have long breaks. Also broad comparisons are inherently problematic.Don't forget all the work that teachers have to take home, though. They aren't only working while they're in the school building. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Miss Ohio USA Cites Prostitute in ‘Pretty Woman’ as ‘Positive and Accurate’ Depiction of WomenBecause it's a Cinderella story. We don't watch it for its accuracy about women. It's not like Forrest Gump is an accurate depiction of men. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 04:37 PM |
| 5 | A nice infograph showing how repressed men really are in society.Oh it's certainly not a totally woman-centric thing, which is why I brought up SAHDs and paternity leave. But when we're talking about choices that negatively affect your career, it's generally women who take the hit career-wise when they have kids, while men aren't affected much by it in regards to pay. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 03:50 PM |
| 13 | A nice infograph showing how repressed men really are in society.It really hits when you get to children. A lot of places don't support paternity leave, or judge SAH dads, or working moms. Employers will often have an unconscious bias against hiring women out of worry about maternity leaves and so on. It's an anti-mother sentiment, rooted in the biological fact that pregnancy and breastfeeding can incapacitate a woman, rather than just sexism. And it's unfortunate, and I think we should be fighting against it, just like we should fight against thinking men ar… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 03:26 PM |
| 6 | A nice infograph showing how repressed men really are in society.We really need to know more about it. Studies have shown that while men generally agree on what's attractive, women don't. At all. Anecdotal, but it's totally backed up by my experiences--my best friend and I almost never agree on guys. There are women out there who think Jason Segel is the hottest thing ever, whereas I find him average at best. So, it could be a matter of unrealistic standards. It could be that only 20% of men can be agreed-upon by the majority of women. Or it could have a lot … | /r/MensRights | 05/06/12 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else here find this disgusting?Why do you think that's a different reason than for women? | /r/MensRights | 29/05/12 08:28 PM |
| 0 | User 'SocialEngineers' runs an interesting experiment on /r/2xcThe invasion aspect shows up occasionally. There are a lot of MR posters who just really hate TwoX, and like to go there just to argue with everyone about everything. As a woman who's very into men's rights issues, I still enjoy TwoX for girlier things, and participate a lot regularly, though of course I chime in on political stuff. There are others who seem to just want to show up to be nitpicky and unpleasant, and it is a bit invasive to just sit around waiting to be able to argue, rather than… | /r/MensRights | 28/05/12 08:08 PM |
| 4 | User 'SocialEngineers' runs an interesting experiment on /r/2xcI get slammed for being an MRA over there by some acrimonious people, and over here get attacked for being a woman, or accused of being a feminist infiltrator. I've been here long enough that the regulars don't, but it's funny how people judge off the surface of everything. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/12 06:58 PM |
| 5 | Womens shirt says "I CHOKE BOYS". Why is this acceptable?Not just bitch, but "Bitch better have my money" is tied to prostitution and pimping. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/12 06:13 AM |
| 5 | One thing that bothers me most.Yeah, a lot of women overestimate the fear they should be feeling, and men and women both underestimate the awareness men should have of their surroundings, depending on context. I'd laugh in the face of anyone who got all worried for me that I'd walk home late late at night alone from the train when I lived in incredibly safe places. Now that I'm in a more dangerous neighborhood? Yeah, I'm a lot more aware and I try to avoid walking home alone late if I can help it--but so should anyone else, h… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/12 07:47 PM |
| 4 | One thing that bothers me most.Please stop the victim-blaming bullshit. The worst verbal harassment I've gotten has been while dressed modestly, even frumpily. I nearly had to call the cops on a guy chasing me around bus stops touching me and my hair--while bundled up in a scarf, gloves, hat, calf-length winter coat, and big fuzzy winter boots. While surrounded by club girls tottering home in miniskirts. Plenty of the rest of it happens when I'm in cargo pants and an old band teeshirt, or swathed in a big woolen shawl. Dressi… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/12 07:42 PM |
| 1 | One thing that bothers me most.Not any case of rape accusation. Untested rape kits are a pretty big problem, including letting the statute of limitations expire and the rapists then can't be prosecuted. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/12 07:37 PM |
| 3 | One thing that bothers me most.You don't need to live in fear (I certainly don't), but it's stupid to not have anyone know where you are most of the time. For anyone. Whether you're kidnapped, or fall and hurt yourself, or get hit by a car or something, you should always have someone who generally knows if you're out and about in case something bad happens. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/12 07:27 PM |
| -1 | Interesting experience at a concertYou're also overestimating the police taking it seriously. That wildly depends on where you are, and how the woman was dressed. It's more likely that it would be taken seriously from a woman, and almost impossible that a man could lodge such a complaint, but far from a guarantee no matter what. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 08:39 PM |
| 1 | This is a crap post, ready to be down-voted, but wanted to get off my chestAgreed. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that most laws seem to protect women in a relationship, but not men?The War on Women isn't about VAWA. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 07:03 PM |
| 4 | This is a crap post, ready to be down-voted, but wanted to get off my chestTraditionally, the woman's role is to please, too, just in different ways. Yes, the man traditionally provides gifts and romantic gestures, but the woman is supposed to provide meals and domestic chores and sexual pleasure. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 06:58 PM |
| 10 | Interesting experience at a concertThe thing with risk assessment though, is that it doesn't always work. One of the scariest instances of harassment I received was when I was fully bundled up in winter wear, including a calf-length coat. Now, if we're talking about looks, we all just need to deal with it. I'd love to live in a world without catcalls, but it's not too realistic. What I hate is the victim-blaming though--yes, a woman couldn't stick her head up your kilt if you were wearing pants instead of a kilt, but she was the … | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 06:56 PM |
| 9 | Interesting experience at a concertNo, they wouldn't, because things like that happen to women regularly. If a man did that to a woman, and was reported, and there was evidence of it, then maybe. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.And I already said, I disagree. It's impossible to do, because everyone has different opinions on what sucks more. It's also useless, because it doesn't matter who's king of the suffering hill, and squabbling about who has it worse is the most pointless, unhelpful thing in the world. It doesn't matter who has it worse! You should do what you can to help everyone you can! | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.I'm against enforcing roles. No one should have to take on traditional roles unless they want to. A lot of men wouldn't want to take on traditional female roles, either--you may think the grass is greener, but no one has it perfect and that's partially a function of confirmation bias and only seeing what you want. Just like the women who still think men have it sooo much better, because they're not noticing the negatives. There are very few times/places where one gender definitively has it bette… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.If they really believed that they'd off themselves. ...that's what happens. When people like that, like me, reach the point where the suffering crosses that line, that's when suicide happens. That's why suicide exists. With how big a problem male suicide is, seeing you be so flip about it is kind of terrible. "Just get over it" is just as bad as "Man up". Bullshit Okay. You come up with a standardized measurement of bad, then, since you're apparently the definitive authority. Sheesh. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 04:15 PM |
| 3 | What are your problems?Yes, put reproductive rights together, contrast the "need to be a provider" with the higher workplace-penalties for mothers (which is a much more legitimate concern than just the misleading "gender gap" so oft squawked about), as that can tie in with how stigmatized SAH dads still are. And pairing the STEM fields issue with the fact that boys drop out at much higher rates and go to college in much smaller numbers now would be a better pairing, as well, I think. Or perhaps the fact that males are… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.It's not moving the goalposts or changing the argument. The argument is "There are people who would rather die than suffer". They aren't all people, but it's a significant portion for whom being left suffering is worse than dying. Therefore, you cannot definitively quantify 'who has it worse', because it all varies by person. You have your opinion and I have mine, and neither of us can tell other people what their experience is. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.We're not going to agree. That's fine. I have different priorities and values than you do. We're never going to find a point of agreement about what should or shouldn't be survived. My only goal had been to remind you that not everyone places life above all else in importance the way you seem to. I note how you completely ignored my comparison to dads deprived of their children. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.Ah, a complete misunderstanding of mental trauma. I hope you don't go around saying shit like that to returned soldiers. We're talking about history, and context. The women in Nanking couldn't just move. The women in the Congo can't just move. I could just move. But I'm a white American female, who's not going to be under any such threat, with a lot more available to me. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.Meh. Like I said, I don't think life is sacred. Yes, it's literally the be-all-end-all of existence, but, existence is pretty damn insignificant in the grand scheme of things. You're not suffering when you're dead. It'll be different after I have children--if said children weren't dead, then I'd have a reason that staying alive would be worth it. But as I am right now? The mental scarring that would come with going through something like that would likely ruin the rest of my life, not to mention… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 03:05 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.Because he said let's see if women would prefer the men's role. I was pointing out that yes, historically, there have always been women who prefer the men's role. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 01:59 PM |
| 0 | Male Privilege.Life isn't some holy thing. All we are is what we're going through. As atheist as I am, if my life's suffering far outweighs the positives, then it's just a net negative, and I wouldn't want to be alive. I edited in that this applies to a lot of scenarios. There are levels of adversity that are indeed worse than death, because we are our experiences; when you're dead, nothing matters anymore. A quick death versus longterm torture? There's a reason I support euthanasia. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.Yeah. My point is that there are women who prefer the men's role. I'm rabidly against the draft. No gender role has ever been all good for one half and all bad for the other. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 01:51 PM |
| -1 | Male Privilege.If it's pointing out that privilege isn't a black and white issue and is more complex than just about gender, I'm all about it. If it's being just as shallow as the people who think all men always have it better than women, well. Sigh. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 02:30 AM |
| -2 | Male Privilege.I'd rather be killed than undergo what some of those women have had to suffer. It's not a pissing contest. War is absolutely horrifying for anyone who has direct contact with it. Edit: Some of you might rather be tortured, I'd rather not. It applies to more than just this example, in my life--if I'm ever severely burned, I don't want to be kept alive in a painful, melted skin suit. If I were completely paralyzed, I'd be suiciding out not too long after. If I get a terrible disease, same thing. W… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Male Privilege.Uh, a lot of the women of Britain, especially London, risked being maimed or killed in the bombing during WWII, and had to deal with their homes being utterly destroyed. Ya might want to pick a better example there. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Male Privilege.Retro-styled a bit perhaps (I wear things like that all the time), but not period. The bikini wasn't introduced until 1946, for example, and didn't become common til later. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Male Privilege.Well, there have been women fighting to be able to join the armed forces for decades, including during all the major wars of this century, and including today, to be able to fight on front lines. So. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 02:17 AM |
| 3 | Male Privilege.Sigh. The woman had no idea her image was going to be used. The original image was not a big campaign whatsoever, it was briefly shown within the company. It wasn't until the eighties that it was coopted to become an icon. Also, she was a musician, and quit because she was worried about her fingers getting mangled in the machinery. Not because it was too hard. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 02:15 AM |
| 3 | Blatant sexism toward men at Regal TheaterThen yeah, sexism. Sigh. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/12 03:25 PM |
| 0 | Blatant sexism toward men at Regal TheaterWas there possibly a difference in clothing styles? Women often wear tight clothing that can't conceal anything, with men wearing baggier clothes. I get patted down when I'm wearing bulky cargo pants, but not when I'm wearing leggings, ya know? | /r/MensRights | 23/05/12 02:33 PM |
| 2 | The worst double standard.They are wildly different though. They are literally diametrically opposed; one is ignoring yourself for the benefit of others, one is ignoring others for the benefit of yourself. And one is a hell of a lot healthier. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/12 01:01 AM |
| 2 | Wilmington man fights for child ex never told him he hadIt's not just a free-pass opt-out. But if women can get abortions, men deserve the same opportunity to opt out during a certain timeframe. Especially because women can lie, sabotage birth control, etc. It's about not being a hypocrite with reproductive freedom. If you think it's morally reprehensible, then why don't you want single fathers to have any rights? Why do women automatically get rights in your opinion, but not men, even though half the DNA is theirs? Why do only married fathers get ri… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 07:14 PM |
| 3 | Wilmington man fights for child ex never told him he hadUgh, ridiculous. I mean, I disagree with the idea that some in here have had, that if a woman can't name a father she should have her face and approximate date of conception run in major newspapers so that the guy could maybe notice and claim his child, because that's a ludicrous abuse of privacy. And I do support opt-out options for unwilling fathers. But the legal rights and responsibilities are always there if you want them. Fathers are just as much a parent, and deserve rights to their kids!… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Wilmington man fights for child ex never told him he had...wat. Well, that's some of the craziest shit I've ever heard, up there with the person who doesn't really believe in rape (because apparently leaving your house is consenting to the idea that someone might want to have sex with you). | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Twins conceived after dad died won't get benefits - Yahoo! FinanceAh, okay. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 03:33 PM |
| 2 | Wilmington man fights for child ex never told him he hadYou don't believe fathers deserve rights if they want them? Why the hell not? | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Twins conceived after dad died won't get benefits - Yahoo! FinanceThey had other children together, and considering he died of cancer, I'm pretty sure he was fully consenting and saved his sperm for that purpose. Unless you have other evidence for why she would have it. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Alicia Gaston, 20, confesses to having sex with boyfriend's 7-year-old son. Judge Lisa Allen set her bond at $75,000.It gets tricky with stat rape. If that 20 year old had sex with a 17 year old, in some places that would be considered rape, even if the partner were completely willing and enthusiastic, because of age of consent, even if they were a month away from turning 18 and legal. For all that there are 14 year olds being abused by teachers, there are also 14 year olds who would be enjoying consensual sex were it offered. You need to examine each case, with adolescents. But there's no "grey area" here. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 02:46 PM |
| 6 | Qantas's sexist policyUh, it was. Literally the sentence before that one. Cameron Murphy of the NSW Council for Civil Liberties president criticised the policy and stated that "there was no basis for the ban". He said it was wrong to assume that all adult males posed a danger to children. The policy has also been criticised for failing to take female abusers into consideration. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Wilmington man fights for child ex never told him he hadWait, why don't you think he should have legal rights? He's the parent. He should certainly have legal rights. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Alicia Gaston, 20, confesses to having sex with boyfriend's 7-year-old son. Judge Lisa Allen set her bond at $75,000.I think the point is that no one in their right mind could think a seven year old could consent to sex, regardless of what the age of consent is. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 02:37 PM |
| 35 | The worst double standard.Yes it is. One is a slander against you, forcing you to suppress your feelings and thoughts to fit into a rigid role for the approval of others. The other one is encouraging you to be yourself, regardless of roles and what others think. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 02:34 PM |
| 4 | Equal Rights According to 4chan (xpost from r/4chan)Some of these are legit, some of them are embarassing shallow or untrue. Like, the "why do married women complain that their husbands can't change a diaper, but divorced women say their ex-husbands can't take care of a child". Well, uh, if the guy can't change a diaper, then no, he can't take care of a child. That one doesn't even make sense to be on a list like this. Or the sexual-freedom-vs-cheating thing; that's not a social norm, first of all, but for every crazy person who might think women… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Pros of marriage?Which is good, because the people who shouldn't be getting married, aren't. Not everyone needs to be married. Some people just aren't interested, others aren't mature enough. People are waiting longer, which is a GREAT thing, because the older you are when you do "finally" get hitched, the more likely you are to stay together. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 08:07 PM |
| 3 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.I'm all for prenups. My claim was against the people claiming she'd have abused him if he asked (like the article writer), or that it's a guarantee she's going to leave and press for half of everything. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 06:24 PM |
| -1 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.Oh god, not this again. It wasn't "not rape" just because it wasn't illegal then. Sex without consent is always rape, consent can never belong to someone else. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 05:42 PM |
| -2 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.So, it was okay for women to assume men were rapists until a couple decades okay, because marital rape was legal? You're okay with people deciding all men are cheaters? Cheating isn't illegal, so we should be able to call all men cheaters, right? It doesn't matter if you're accusing someone of being evil, so long as it'd be legally accepted for them to be evil? You don't see the problem with baselessly accusing someone of being evil? The problem with baseless accusation isn't the legality of the… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.Not for them it isn't. They're both college-educated, and are over 26. For people in THAT category, the chance of a divorce is only 19%. But the tone of some of it--that it's her plan, or that she'd have abused him if he'd dared ask for a prenup--is definitely an attack. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Pros of marriage?Yepp. I'm 24 now, and I'm pretty damned sure my boyfriend and I are going to end up married, but there's no way I'd make that commitment until we were older and I was absolutely sure. Too many people treat it as just what you do when you fall in love, or something--it's not, it's committing to a lifetime and family (not necessarily having kids, but being family) with someone. You can be in love without marriage just fine. I support the freedom to divorce, and signing prenups and stuff in case, b… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Pros of marriage?Virgins at marriage today are strongly correlated with religious belief, which means divorce is less of an option for them. My theory also is it has to do with feeling like "Oh I waited for this one, and I want to only be with one person ever, so I'll stay even though I'm not really happy". I mean, I don't like how divorce-happy our society is, but a lot of that is age and education. Amongst the college-educated who wait til 26 years or older (which is after our brains finally stop developing ar… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Pros of marriage?Actually, the divorce rate is dropping, and depending on age and education is as low as 19%. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 04:53 PM |
| 5 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.It's about the article, which assumes the worst about her: I don’t see how Mark Zuckerberg could have asked Priscilla Chan to sign a pre-nup. They’ve known each other since they were teenagers. If he asked, she’d probably kick his butt, erase his hard drive, and take custody of their dog. and comments like You know that smarmy little douchebag Zuckerburg didn't, and she's going to take him to the cleaners in 3 - 5 years. Chump. I'm fine with talking about the risk, and how unfair it would be sho… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 04:48 PM |
| 4 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.Well you can't predict the future, so stop attacking her for things we don't even know will happen. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.But there are SEVERAL threads in here that varyingly say "Oh I bet she would have abused him if he'd tried to get a prenup" like this article did, or "I give it three, maybe five years, before she runs laughing to the hills with his money", and so on. Not a discussion of the injustices of society. Just completely baseless accusations and suppositions. I don't mind the "Why the hell would you risk everything like that, what if blah blah blah" comments. It's all the ones that are acting like this … | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 04:43 PM |
| 0 | 6 arguments against ALL feminismsAnother conjecture is that women are more likely to be religious, and religion generally still teaches that men are better than women, some more blatantly than others. In America in particular, it's how you end up with women voting against the rights of other women, because they think women have their place (not that men are allowed much more freedom, either, just a different box). There's so much complexity to the issue, you can't just say "Oh I think it's this', especially this when this is a … | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 03:16 PM |
| 12 | Mark Zuckerberg's $10 Billion Bet on the Sanctity of Marriage.I get really tired of people assuming a woman must be evil, though. I'm going to sign a prenup and paternity test my kids eveen though I'll know damn well who fathered them. Most women aren't MRAs and might not go that far on principle, but most women aren't harpies, either. Maybe he wasted eight years dating a manipulative bitch, or maybe they were together for years and she's a good person. I mean, criminy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. We rightfully stand against assuming that men are rapis… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 03:09 PM |
| 2 | An article on the World Journal of Pediatrics - on circumcision: "Utilizing circumcision to prevent penile cancer is ridiculous, as the breast is removed to prevent breast cancer."Yepp. I've used this argument before. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Can we stop linking screen caps of FB comments PLEASE?You can find ones that are just as misogynistic in other places, though. Facebook doesn't prove social acceptance of anything, it just proves stupid. When it's in the media, then that's some social acceptance. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Are Women Really The Choosier Sex--"These findings suggest that choosiness may not be an innate part of female psychology, but rather a product of a highly gendered society that dictates who should be the initiator of sexual and romantic encounters."It's not. Chimpanzees and bonobos aren't particularly choosy. Women will never be entirely not choosy, but they aren't, without outside pressures, spectacularly more choosy than men. | /r/MensRights | 19/05/12 04:11 AM |
| 2 | Are Women Really The Choosier Sex--"These findings suggest that choosiness may not be an innate part of female psychology, but rather a product of a highly gendered society that dictates who should be the initiator of sexual and romantic encounters."Yepp, you have to take a stand somewhere. Afraid to ask a guy out because what if he's the kind of guy who thinks women who make the first move are desperate sluts? Well, then you don't want to date him anyways. Similarly, if a girl says 'no stop' and you stop, and then she gets offended because she didn't really mean it? Well she's a fucking idiot who needs to learn to own her libido, and she doesn't get to be rewarded with sex until she's mature enough to admit she wants it. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Hi mens rights: Diversity of opinion and the Male Gaze.I never said there were no pressures on men. In fact, I went rather out of my way to mention the Female Gaze. But we're talking about the Male Gaze, and what it means. It doesn't exist in a vaccuum, but it does exist. citation needed Fast Times at Ridgemont High. There's Something About Mary. Superbad. Revenge of the Nerds. Weird Science (and anytime Anthony Michael Hall had a romantic lead). Knocked Up. Sideways. Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Zack and Miri Make a Porno. Every romantic lead that Mi… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Girl who claims to be a transman: post clearly shows both why real transgendered people are rarely taken seriously and also the male stigma that needs to be repaired. No, this is not a troll. I've known this person for years.No problem. Trans issues aren't really intuitive to anyone who has never struggled with them. I had to learn, once upon a time, too. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 07:27 PM |
| -2 | My realisation today concerning society's vilification of men regarding slut-shamingThat may be the case now. But it has come just as strongly from men in the past, because of paternity and pregnancy issues, and those echoes are still here today. Need I remind you of the stereotypical dad reaction to his teen daughter becoming sexually active? It's also often used by men who have been rejected, and lash out against the woman with the strongest insult they know. A majority of slut-shaming now comes from women, that's for sure. Just not an overwhelming majority. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 05:58 PM |
| 5 | Are Women Really The Choosier Sex--"These findings suggest that choosiness may not be an innate part of female psychology, but rather a product of a highly gendered society that dictates who should be the initiator of sexual and romantic encounters."Yet more reason we really need to break out of this silly "Men have to approach" mindset, as a society. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 04:59 PM |
| -4 | How Women Can Get Ahead: Advice From Female CEOs. "Mr. Welch's notion that his career, or anyone's, is a result of a single androgynous metric—'performance'—is false." The workplace is still an "old boys' network." So I went to the 18 women who are CEOs of Fortune 500 companies...I'm just not sure why an article for and about women would be in /mensrights. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:59 PM |
| 3 | Hi mens rights: Diversity of opinion and the Male Gaze.Well, I certainly think the Male Gaze exists. What I really hate, though, is that the people who get really huffy about it like to pretend there's no Female Gaze. And there sure as shit is. I'm a woman, and every girl I know will objectify a tasty-looking fellow. And there's nothing wrong with that, so long as you remember they're still people, and don't treat the people you actually interact with as objects. That said, I do believe the Male Gaze is a more socially powerful thing. Not the actual… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:58 PM |
| 6 | Girl who claims to be a transman: post clearly shows both why real transgendered people are rarely taken seriously and also the male stigma that needs to be repaired. No, this is not a troll. I've known this person for years.You only notice the trans people who are on the caricature end. Contrary to the "men and women are totally the same except for genitals" claims, there are brain differences between the sexes, and scans have shown that trans brains much more closely resemble the gender they feel they are rather than the biological sex they were born as. It's part of why the kid whose genitals were removed and he was raised as a girl never felt comfortable as a girl--he wasn't. Neither are trans people. It's like … | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Please stop linking to the Daily Mail, it's not a credible site.It's a tabloid. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:13 PM |
| 5 | Please stop linking to the Daily Mail, it's not a credible site.It's a long-running tabloid with a history of falsification. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:13 PM |
| 1 | My realisation today concerning society's vilification of men regarding slut-shamingYeah. There are men who slutshame, but it's at least a strong a force coming from women. But it's not a strict gender divide for judgment and subtle backstabbing, either. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:06 PM |
| 9 | How Women Can Get Ahead: Advice From Female CEOs. "Mr. Welch's notion that his career, or anyone's, is a result of a single androgynous metric—'performance'—is false." The workplace is still an "old boys' network." So I went to the 18 women who are CEOs of Fortune 500 companies...I don't really see anything wrong with this article. There's nothing wrong with encouraging women who want to go into high-level careers. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:03 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone else seen this going around facebook?And how is calling a man a dope implying he's not human? They just show him buried in dirt, not dehumanised. (Also, the fox/elephant one is at least as dehumanizing, I'd say, if you're going to say that a plant pun is dehumanizing; animal ones should be as well.) | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Has anyone else seen this going around facebook?Okay, what makes calling a man a dope dehumanizing, but not the things I posted? | /r/MensRights | 17/05/12 09:55 PM |
| 4 | Has anyone else seen this going around facebook?There's this kind of thing for example. Or this shit getting upvoted, or the incredibly tired "how men/women post pictures of things" shit. Or sickeningly pro-rape shit like this. "Classic jokes" like what do you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing, you already told her twice. r/jokes can be a haven for nasty shit: this, or this, or these, or this, or this. I could keep going, but I'm tired of going through my downvoted page looking at them. (And yes, before anyone asks, I universally down… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/12 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Why is it that men don't have reproductive rights, only responsiblities?I think the deadlines about it are reprehensible, but I don't see a problem with requiring a paternity test. DNA tests are also required for women seeking welfare for their children. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/12 07:12 PM |
| 3 | Why is it that men don't have reproductive rights, only responsiblities?Women have to prove via DNA that their children are their own to receive welfare and such. I'm sorry, but I don't think a cheek swab is any problem of bodily integrity. Women have too much power right now, but the solution isn't to give the upper hand back to men to just refuse to comply. That's not equality. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/12 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Cameron Diaz on CircumcisionAlready did that, sweetheart. All conjecture, nothing more than tabloid rumours. By that measure, Hilary Swank is a man, aliens are invading, Elvis is still alive, Justin Bieber sleeps around with men, and so on. I'm a skeptic, and I won't believe anything without real evidence. I'm done here. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Cameron Diaz on CircumcisionYou seem to be ahead of yourself. Testing is theoretical, but has not yet been approved for product testing (though it is allowed for pharma groups), at least as of December. I can't find any reliable sources saying it's allowed in the US, either. I'm rabidly against circumcision, it's mutilation. That is unrelated to this. All I'm asking for is proof of your claims of them already being used in mass cosmetics testing, not just blog posts that mention it but only have evidence of wrinkle creams … | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Cameron Diaz on CircumcisionNone of your links say it's used for testing. It's used for pharmaceutical and bioengineering testing, but seriously, what the hell would fibroblasts even be used for for testing mascara or lip gloss? They're used in wrinkle creams and collagen injections, which is horrifying enough on its own without you making up more stuff about it. I don't even know why I'm still bothering to argue with you about this, you're obviously not going to change your mind. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Cameron Diaz on CircumcisionAre you a plant for the make-up industry or something? You're really into that whole baseless-accusation thing, aren't you? Criminy. Every single one of those still says they're found in some wrinkle creams, and facial injections. That isn't makeup as a whole. And again, until you have any evidence that she's used any of those products, how about you stop attacking someone who's on our side? You have literally no evidence that she's ever used such a thing. She's actually not well known for havin… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 03:36 PM |
| 3 | Cameron Diaz on CircumcisionNeither of your sources list any company that does it other than SkinMedica--who hypes themselves as having new revolutionary stuff in their cream. Certainly no mention of regular cosmetics. Therefore unless you can show she's using SkinMedica, which is a weird brand, you really have no basis to make that claim. The vast majority of cosmetics are not connected to foreskins in the slightest. In fact, a brief google about her product habits shows she has a history of battling acne, and is tied to … | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 02:54 PM |
| 6 | Cameron Diaz on CircumcisionHow about we not leap to ridiculous assumptions about someone? That's like the people who assume all men are pigs who sexually harass women. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 02:13 PM |
| 3 | TIL: Lesbians, like hetero women, are much more likely to initiate divorce.There are about 1400 state and federal benefits to legal marriage. 1,138 are federal, and then depending on the state about 300 other state benefits. This is on top of contractual benefits that are legal but not directly governmental, like insurance plans that cover spouses and so on. Seriously, try fucking wikipedia for a basic rundown. It's common knowledge by now. There are very important reasons why gay marriages need to be recognised by the government. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 01:34 AM |
| 4 | TIL: Lesbians, like hetero women, are much more likely to initiate divorce.Yeah, but something being newly legal means a lot of people will just jump to celebrate it. Like how drunk driving accidents increase when the drinking age is lowered, because people don't know how to be responsible yet. You need to wait until gay marriage is as normal as straight marriage before you can judge. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 08:45 PM |
| 1 | TIL: Lesbians, like hetero women, are much more likely to initiate divorce.There are literally thousands of legal benefits to marriage, and it's why gay marriage is such a big deal. Please don't play dumb. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 08:44 PM |
| 3 | TIL: Lesbians, like hetero women, are much more likely to initiate divorce.That is what the statistic is. That's how initiation of divorce is measured, by paperwork. It says nothing about who is at fault, or whether or not it is mutual. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Why Are Feminists Against The Male Pill?Yepp. To me it's common sense--I don't want to be a hypocrite, and I also don't want to give up any of my reproductive rights, so you're damned right men deserve them. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 06:09 PM |
| 6 | Why Are Feminists Against The Male Pill?Oh I wasn't utterly dismissing it, just contradicting the almost-circlejerk-y feeling in the thread of "Yeah, feminists and women totally all share this belief". I agree that it's very likely a generational thing. Or a selfish thing, if the woman is one of the sociopaths who thinks she should be able to get pregnant by lying whenever she wants. Men commit reproductive coercion and fraud sometimes too, so it's not a gendered thing, but it's wayyyy easier for women to do it, and unfortunately we s… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 05:19 PM |
| 17 | Why Are Feminists Against The Male Pill?Anecdotes. The majority of women in TwoX are always incredibly eager for it, in every thread that's come up about it. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 04:50 PM |
| 8 | TIL: Lesbians, like hetero women, are much more likely to initiate divorce.Well of course not. You're going off of what you feel and think and want to be the case, and believing the conclusion you want. It may be the correct conclusion, but you really have no more proof for it than the other, and from my experiences, Occam's Razor just puts me firmly in the "women are more likely to commit before they're ready" camp. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 04:42 PM |
| 1 | So, this happened in my women's psychology class this morning....To play devil's advocate, did the women admit to doing it to men's faces, or just in their own private conversation? The double standard is rife, but there can be argued a difference in levels of respect for public vs private. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 04:02 PM |
| 13 | TIL: Lesbians, like hetero women, are much more likely to initiate divorce.If you are at all familiar with lesbian culture, lesbians are infamous for getting super-serious super-fast. There are loads of jokes about who will rent the Uhaul for the second date, in reference to lesbians moving in with each other and leaping straight into commitment. I definitely think it's a quick-to-marry problem. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 04:00 PM |
| 1 | "This almost seems to be a topic for /mensrights. Why are we not allowed to wear dresses?" "Blame men for that one."Sorry, I meant "It's just how it works" to mean that if you are the one asking people out, you will be rejected regularly--it doesn't matter if you're male or female. Thinking women hold all the control is because women have traditionally been more passive about relationships. Anyone who pursues people will be rejected a lot, because not everyone is compatible or interested; that is just how it works. And for the record, I was talking about sex, too, not just relationships or love. It's another … | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 02:54 PM |
| 1 | "This almost seems to be a topic for /mensrights. Why are we not allowed to wear dresses?" "Blame men for that one."I already acknowledged it's more true than false in today's (modern, Western) society. But it's also only true for women who are completely passive. In that case, yes, if she's only screening and never going after someone, it'll all be on who she chooses of her suitors. But there are plenty, if still a minority, of women who aren't afraid to go after people they want, and we get rejected a lot of the time as well. It's just how it works. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/12 01:36 PM |
| 9 | "This almost seems to be a topic for /mensrights. Why are we not allowed to wear dresses?" "Blame men for that one."Through all of human history (and really all of mammalian history) women have held 100% of the power within the sexual relationship. Very few cultures (ot species) exist in which the male is the "chooser" in sexual relationships, which is to say that in human cultures women are the sex that gets to say yes or no to a sexual relationship. This is blatantly false. Marital rape wasn't even illegal in most places until very, very recently. In most human cultures, the parents decide who their kids ar… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/12 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Men make more, women decide how to spend it. Women make around 80 per cent of the decisions around spending.I'm pretty sure that is the person misunderstanding or misrepresenting the finding, just like the headline does. I find it highly unlikely that only 2% of households have joint spending. I'd like to actually see the survey. Not a single thing, not even on the BMO website itself, actually links to the study or separates the two numbers. As an example, I could make a headline saying DADS OVERCOME CUSTODY BIAS, and say that 76% of children live with their fathers. Which is true--when you include co… | /r/MensRights | 11/05/12 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Men make more, women decide how to spend it. Women make around 80 per cent of the decisions around spending.No, equal responsibility is great. I'm attacking the stat for saying "Women make 80% of the decisions", when an unknown percentage of that includes joint decisions. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/12 06:18 PM |
| 8 | Men make more, women decide how to spend it. Women make around 80 per cent of the decisions around spending.in 82 per cent of Canadian households, women are either the primary decision-maker or have equal responsibility for financial decisions. So what does this mean? How many are actually the primary decision makers, and how many are splitting it equally? | /r/MensRights | 11/05/12 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Men make more, women decide how to spend it. Women make around 80 per cent of the decisions around spending.But you'd count. Look at the stat again: in 82 per cent of Canadian households, women are either the primary decision-maker or have equal responsibility for financial decisions. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/12 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Question /MR/ - If men shouldn't be expected to pay for dates, how will I get a girlfriend?How old are you, and where do you live? That drastically affects things. | /r/MensRights | 11/05/12 05:17 PM |
| 5 | [x-post from r/wtf] Rape prevention tips finds its way to man's houseI have, unfortunately. It certainly also happens to men, but any time a rape case is less than a stranger jumping out at you in a dark alley, there's victim blaming by at least some people. For a larger-world example, look at this guy who was acquitted on the argument that he couldn't possibly have removed a woman's skinny jeans without her consent. From my personal experiences, my ex-roommate blamed our mutual friend because she got drunk with an old male friend she trusted, when she should hav… | /r/MensRights | 10/05/12 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Why the Nice Guy (tm) "phenomenon" or calling it that is misandry.We call them Nice Guys because they bitch about how they're such nice guys and why won't women have sex with/date them even when they're so nice. It's exemplified particularly in the PUA who "used to be a nice guy", who now just openly treats women like shit for conquest. I have nothing against most of the pick-up techniques, for the record. Just the negging shit, and the guys who think that because there are girls with low self-esteem who fall for that but they couldn't get girls with fake nice… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:55 PM |
| 5 | Why the Nice Guy (tm) "phenomenon" or calling it that is misandry.There's a difference between nice guys, and Nice Guys (TM). Nothing about the Nice Guy discussion is about them being desperate, weak, or clingy. Well, there can be a little bit when they mope about girls not being psychic. But the main difference is that an actual nice guy is nice to everyone, whereas a Nice Guy is only nice to someone he's trying to sleep with, and thinks being nice earns him a sexual reward, and he gets angry at her or all womankind when it doesn't. Now, a lot of this comes f… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 08:45 PM |
| 3 | Another double standard case: Kentucky female teacher has sex with two male students, pleads guilty and ends up with probationWell, not necessarily. That's the problem with headlines like that. As for your acquaintance, the stuff like that is ridiculous. Often, the girls will get charged with producing it, too. But teen sex offender laws are way more biased against the boys. Ugh. America is stupid. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Studying for social problems....you serious?Ie, it feels wrong of me to like/dislike the behavior based on the attractiveness of the people doing it. That's very true, but I was speaking to you from the perspective of having low self esteem and wanting people to express sexual attraction in your direction. A lot of guys who've never really witnessed, much less experienced, street harassment genuinely think it's a compliment. And there's a lot more to it than physical looks (any repulsive behaviour cancels out whatever physical good looks … | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Kacy Wilson, 28, rapes boy. Charged with "unlawful sexual activity." Article jokes about rape.I've read studies from people who have, and yes, I have interacted with a couple of rapists. Hence my anecdatal evidence above, about it having nothing to do with how easily they can get consensual sex. You are dismissing this evidence, without offering any of your own. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 04:03 PM |
| 2 | Another double standard case: Kentucky female teacher has sex with two male students, pleads guilty and ends up with probationIt's a plea deal, that's generally what they're for--to get off lighter by confessing and saving the trouble of a trial. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 04:01 PM |
| 8 | Studying for social problems....you serious?You're imagining attractive women doing it. It's usually not. You've also never experienced the angry ones--there are guys who catcall and then, if you ignore them or respond negatively, get really aggressive and in your face about it. Seeing as how I never know in advance who's just being gross and who's secretly psychotic, it gives a scary tinge to all interactions if I'm not part of a group. To be clear, I don't find all men threatening in the slightest--just anyone who indulges in street har… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Studying for social problems....you serious?Trust me, there is no level of physical attractiveness that will compensate for the utter disgustingness of street harassment. I was very sad, because in Italy the culture there encourages complete objectification of tourist women, so as a pale redhead traveling alone I got ludicrous harassment, which made all of the guys I encountered seem disgusting (not every man in Italy, obviously, but the selection bias of "Italians that harassed me"), even though Italians are usually my type, looks-wise. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 03:34 PM |
| 2 | How come us men never do this at prostate conventions? This is why I hate woman related conventionsYou may have been sarcastic, but actually, it's about the fact that women physically take longer to go to the bathroom because of biology. Peeing at a urinal or into a toilet while standing takes a lot less time than undoing your pants (or more than that, depending on outfit, but that's not a requirement), sitting down, peeing, wiping, and then redoing your clothes again. Not to mention the added time if menstruation is a factor, for changings pads and tampons. They did studies, to figure out ho… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Kacy Wilson, 28, rapes boy. Charged with "unlawful sexual activity." Article jokes about rape.No, not any woman who has had a drink of alcohol--women who are visibly intoxicated. And his definition of rape isn't about the alcohol involved--the questions are explicitly about lack of consent due to physical inability to fight back, or coercion via threats. There's nothing shady about his definitions of rape, unlike a lot of feminist versions where any alcohol makes it rape. But whatever. If you really want to believe rape isn't about power (and might I ask, have you gone out and interviewe… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 03:21 PM |
| 2 | Kacy Wilson, 28, rapes boy. Charged with "unlawful sexual activity." Article jokes about rape.Okay, I understand that, if you are not a rapist, the only reason you can imagine raping someone is because you're totally overwhelmed with desire. But that's because you aren't a rapist, much in the same way most people aren't terrible people. Are there some grey cases where it's less evil? Of course. But it's like the difference between someone stealing a sandwich to eat, versus a junkie mugging people on the street, versus robbing jewelry stores for a living, or being an art thief. Not that b… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 01:22 PM |
| 6 | am i the only one who wants to be a stay at home dad?It's often about childcare. Especially if you have more than one kid who isn't school-aged yet, daycare can be so expensive that it's cheaper to have someone stay home. Also, if your friends are making that much with not much left, they're just living really rich. I survive on less than $20k a year. If it weren't for student loans, I'd be golden. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/12 04:13 PM |
| 15 | am i the only one who wants to be a stay at home dad?It's unlikely to ever be an issue in my life, but man, that's the kind of opportunity I'd welcome as a woman. Because nothing makes me feel better than ditching bigots out of my life. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/12 04:11 PM |
| 10 | Kacy Wilson, 28, rapes boy. Charged with "unlawful sexual activity." Article jokes about rape.I upvoted you until I got to this part: Its messed up knowing how easy it is for women to get laid that she'd have to force someone to have sex with her. I wonder what the lovely people at 2x have to save about this. That's just such an incredibly messed up interpretation of rape. Rape isn't completely not about sex, but it's mostly about power. Most rapists are serial rapists, and you'd be surprised by them. Of the rape victims I know whose rapists I also knew, and yes this is anecdata but so i… | /r/MensRights | 08/05/12 01:17 PM |
| 1 | This is just great. Why does it have to be a woman...You're allowed to do that for a roommate, as in anyone you would share living space with, but not for a tenant. | /r/MensRights | 07/05/12 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Girls and sport: Schools urged to make PE more attractive to girlsYeah, that's my only problem with this, is when they only focus on one half. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Girls and sport: Schools urged to make PE more attractive to girlsMy school gave us the opportunity to play the sport, or walk/run laps around the track. I always opted for the track, admittedly usually just walking to chat with other people who were also opting out, because I have no depth perception and fail at sports. :( It was still forty minutes of moving around, though, even if it was just walking and not running. Certainly no worse than softball. If there'd been swimming, dance, or gymnastics, I'd have loved it. The rare class we spent in the weight roo… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 07:11 PM |
| 4 | Study: Men Like Cuddling, Women Prefer SexMen crave love. If they just wanted sex, they'd just sit around and masturbate. Those are not the same things at all. Plus, I could say the same thing about women. How does men not sitting at home jerking it show that men want love more than women do? Women decide whom they want to have sex with and determine if a successful mating will occur. You're still ignoring rape and assuming all men want to have sex with anything that offers. And you're still showing no proof. Sure, you can claim to know… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Study: Men Like Cuddling, Women Prefer SexI am familiar with evo psych. However, you need to do a lot more than reference an entire (and often highly flawed) field. None of your first set seem to say anything about men craving love more than women. Not to mention how do you even measure how much someone wants love? As for your second claim, ha, from one of the first results: in societies thought to be akin to those of our ancestors, female choice is constrained by the control that parents exercise over their daughters. Data from 190 hun… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Study: Men Like Cuddling, Women Prefer SexNeither of those things are facts, much less "on an evolutionary scale". At least, not a fact in the sense of men craving love more than women do. Men crave love just the same as any human does. Plus, be careful with your use of "all". As a woman who has always been the higher drive and has dealt with my fair share of rejections (for casual stuff as well as for relationships, and within relationships), who knows plenty of other women who've been turned down, you really, really can't say all. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 03:30 PM |
| 9 | As a women who may be a wife and mother some day, this thought NEVER occurred to me. What do you men have to say about this issue?Yeah, which is why custody still mainly belongs to women, because heaven forbid they be separated from their kids--as if it's not hurtful to the dad to lose his kids. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Fair and unbiased opinions about fetishes vs. sexual deviancyIt's just a less universal one. You can certainly find that dichotomy, it just depends on what the person thinks about sex drives. | /r/MensRights | 30/04/12 10:43 PM |
| 5 | Fair and unbiased opinions about fetishes vs. sexual deviancyThe only one I'd quibble with is that a lot of people still think that men looking at porn is natural, but women must be unnatural freaks if they want to look at it. It depends on the group you're talking to. But another I'd add is that submissiveness in a woman is seen as normal, whereas in a guy it's a kink/fetish (which, for either one it can be, but even mild levels are seen as really weird in a guy). Also, women making out = hot and not necessarily gay, men making out = gross, dangerous, to… | /r/MensRights | 30/04/12 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Baby dies in a bath while being looked after by mother, Women's group leader says "men also needed to look at their behaviour in such situation"Well, I wasn't talking about dishonesty in a sabotage sense, but just about not being able to trust someone to be on or be responsible with birth control. More in the context of a random hookup, or someone you aren't absolutely positive is taking it properly. Not to mention the whole disease issue, of course. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/12 08:19 PM |
| 4 | Baby dies in a bath while being looked after by mother, Women's group leader says "men also needed to look at their behaviour in such situation"Unless you're in a relationship with someone you know well, never trust your fertility and health to their care. Any guy who sleeps with a girl without condoms is responsible for not taking care of his own half of fertility. Assumptions are not an excuse to get out of responsibility; that would be like a girl assuming guys had vasectomies. And yeah, I've chewed out my roommate for making that assumption and going without a condom with a random girl, especially because she WAS NOT on birth contro… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/12 06:07 PM |
| -3 | Baby dies in a bath while being looked after by mother, Women's group leader says "men also needed to look at their behaviour in such situation"Not necessarily, if she were mentally disabled. But I also disagree that either party is more responsible for an equal act. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/12 05:43 PM |
| 0 | Kay Hymowitz: Why Women Make Less Than Men - In studies from the U.S. to Sweden, pay discrimination can't explain the disparity. Women earn less because they work fewer hours.Yeah. I'd rather see the government offering support to successful people for a year to have children, than end up with most children being born to poor parents who can't afford them and spend their whole lives on welfare. | /r/MensRights | 27/04/12 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Kay Hymowitz: Why Women Make Less Than Men - In studies from the U.S. to Sweden, pay discrimination can't explain the disparity. Women earn less because they work fewer hours.And it should be pointed out that while it takes two people to create a child, the mother has 100% control over whether that child is actually born. It's the mother who chooses to have the child. Men do not choose to have children, as you said. Men choose to have sex. Women choose to have children. Sorry, but when a couple makes the joint decision to have children, then they're both making it. Legally, yes, the woman has final say because it's her body, but that doesn't invalidate a joint decisi… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/12 01:16 PM |
| 4 | Kay Hymowitz: Why Women Make Less Than Men - In studies from the U.S. to Sweden, pay discrimination can't explain the disparity. Women earn less because they work fewer hours.More stay-at-home dads is women changing behaviour. Most women end up being the one to stay home with the kids--partly because of biology, with late pregnancy impairments, labour, and recovery--but it's not like those kids just magically appear on a whim. Every child has two parents, and most of those children have two willing parents. But it's not just about women "letting" men do the staying at home (though that does come into play), it's also about men stepping up to do it. A lot of men still… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/12 07:29 PM |
| 1 | *sigh* Colorado senator trying to reinstate funding for involuntary circumcision AGAIN.Don't get the wrong idea about doctor salaries. Yeah, doctors make money, but they also have almost crippling medical school debt, and if it's say, a resident performing the surgery, they're making a measly $40k for 80 hour weeks. Most doctors make maybe $200k when they're free and clear, but they also work 50+ hours a week, and only top specialists who spend eight to twelve years in residencies and fellowships make $300k+, so they're old and they damned well deserve it by the time they're that … | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Women-only hour at University of Oregon gym draws controversyIt's probably because most women tend to only use cardio machines and spend less time there. But in that case, you should offer types of membership, not gendered membership. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Girl takes advantage of sleeping man; Reddit calls it rape. (X-post from front page)And he wouldn't have been a rapist, if he had stopped her and clarified. But he went with it, and even came inside her without protection. I've done some dumb shit in my time, I know all about heat of the moment, but even when you're doing wrong you know it's wrong, you just don't care enough. But accidentally raping someone is something you'd damned well better care about, or you're a terrible human being because when you realise what's going on, it's no longer accidental if you don't stop. Lik… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 01:52 PM |
| 2 | Hi, mens rights...Dubai is a place where they have literal slavery, and you can be arrested for having sex. It would be incredibly hypocritical to run away from allegorical slavery to a place that supports actual slavery. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Girl takes advantage of sleeping man; Reddit calls it rape. (X-post from front page)It's because he knowingly masqueraded as her boyfriend. Her "consent", while thinking he was her boyfriend--a lie he was actively perpetrating, not an innocent mistake--is completely invalid. Much how if a person willingly takes drugs or gets drunk and consents to sex, that shouldn't be rape, but if they are unwittingly fed drugs or alcohol and then, when out of their head, "consent" to the person who drugged them, then that's rape. It wasn't an innocent mistake though. But also, it's definitely… | /r/MensRights | 24/04/12 05:45 PM |
| 1 | A month after I was shamed for using the phrase "hot girl" at work, I just got to sit around at lunch and listen to my all female coworkers talk about how much their breasts sag.So you're just going to complain about a double standard, but not do anything to change it. Got it. Not much of a men's rights activist are you? | /r/MensRights | 24/04/12 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Colombians say scandal hurts nation's image but blame U.S. men. "The women were just trying to make a living." Two percent of young female college students in Cartagena moonlight as escorts and prostitutes.And? | /r/MensRights | 23/04/12 01:43 PM |
| 1 | surrogate mother a couple hired decided to keep the baby, and is now suing the father for child support.A proper surrogate is still okay. I feel bad for the couple, but they were idiots who found someone on the web and set up an "informal agreement" using the surrogate's eggs. That's not how surrogacy or donor eggs are generally done. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/12 01:43 PM |
| 1 | surrogate mother a couple hired decided to keep the baby, and is now suing the father for child support.She wasn't a real surrogate, this was an "informal arrangement". | /r/MensRights | 23/04/12 01:41 PM |
| 24 | Of course, genital mutilation is only bad when it happens to females.Just like how circumcised men often fall into the echo of chamber of "I'm glad it was done to me as a baby, I wouldn't have it any other way". People don't like to admit they were mutilated. But some of the strongest voices against FGM are also circumcised women. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/12 01:08 PM |
| 18 | Of course, genital mutilation is only bad when it happens to females.It's a joint effort. The women do it to their daughters because they know that they have no chance to get married without it, and marriage is everything in cultures like that. It's not like the men are saying "Man, I wish these women would stop cutting themselves" or something with only women interested in it. The women keep perpetrating it because the men are indoctrinated to want it. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/12 01:07 PM |
| 3 | I feel more comfortable in MensRights than in /r/women or /r/TwoXChromosomesOh it certainly doesn't. But when you look at teenagers who are still rather self-centered children and not able to see the bigger picture, it's better to remove the scenarios that make covering-your-ass something that hurts other people. Just like false claims of stranger rape will go up if abortion is outlawed except in case of rape, so too do false claims go up when we make girls feel dirty for consensual sex. Or how crime rates skyrocket when poverty rises. People do a lot of things when the… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 07:46 PM |
| 2 | I feel more comfortable in MensRights than in /r/women or /r/TwoXChromosomesIt depends on who you're talking to. In other threads specifically about financial abortion, there's been resounding support. It's a huge subreddit, sometimes you just end up in a nest of idiots. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 07:34 PM |
| 3 | I feel more comfortable in MensRights than in /r/women or /r/TwoXChromosomesThe other mods picked them--and admitted they did it as a fuck-you to the community. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Woman awarded frozen embryos ex-husband wanted destroyed [cross post from 2X]Sure you aren't confusing it with /feminisms? TwoX generally only deletes abusive comments. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Husband sued by wife for lack of sexFrance doesn't have no-fault divorce. He was blocking the divorce, and she had to sue to get around an archaic law. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 02:01 PM |
| 1 | SenselessNope. A newborn can depend on anyone willing to support it. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 05:01 PM |
| 6 | Feminist leader said, "No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Women should not have that choice..." The real war on women by feminists who demean women who choose to be homemaker and wifeThe title's a bit misleading. Simone de Beauvoir was born in 1908, she died over twenty years ago. That said, Ann Romney wasn't a homemaker. Their family has been documented to have at least four maids, plus other staff. She's lucky she never had to work and got to spend time with her kids, but she's never worked outside the home or had to worry about money, and isn't useful to Mitt as a tool to understand women's economic perspectives. Even more homemakers still have to worry about their partne… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Pretty good article by a feminist on female tendency to reject short men as dating prospectsI've never gotten the Napoleonic complex thing. I have noticed that a fairly large percentage of shorter men are aggressively aware and self-conscious of their height, which can be tiresome, but that's one of two scenarios I ever notice that a guy is short: when he makes an issue of it constantly, or when he's standing next to someone really tall. I've dated/messed around with short guys, and only with one of them was the height an issue, because he was obsessed with it. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 01:47 PM |
| 1 | I'm moving in with my partner in about 6 months' time, so I figured I should look into common law spousal support in my area (Ontario, Canada). Results were unnerving.Normally, you have to call yourself a married couple and act married, to be considered common law. But that's the US, not sure about Canada. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 01:43 PM |
| 2 | A midwife has been charge with killing a baby boy through circumcision - surely it's time we gave boys equal rights and made all medically unnecessary non-consensual genital surgery illegalFreedom of religion doesn't mean "freedom to force others to follow your religion". Mutilating your children without their consent is forcing them to follow your religion. Do it as an adult, or not at all. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 01:35 PM |
| 6 | The Downside of Cohabiting Before MarriageThe problem is with the slide and thinking things will be different after marriage. Nope. You cohabitate to see how you live together, and if you like things exactly as they are, then you should get married. But also you shouldn't get married as a "Well I guess we've been together for a while, what else is there to do" or "I just want to be married, I guess you'll do" type of thing. I'm not against marriage, but I do hate that it's seen as just "the next step" or whatever. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/12 02:58 PM |
| -1 | Domestic violence situation turns deadly. A man dead, and a woman injured. Police do not charge woman. Names not released.self-defense is reasonable without any other evidence | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 07:43 PM |
| -2 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.But the first one was. The judge misapplied the law and it was overturned because of it. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 07:27 PM |
| 0 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.Both of those would be covered by the particular bolded exceptions that I listed above. Also, Later an appeals court found that the judge had misapplied the laws and the conviction was overturned That wasn't the law's fault, it was the judge's. And, for Albert, while that part of her history perhaps shouldn't have been withheld, don't forget his: During the trial, testimony was presented from another woman, Patricia Masden, who told the jury that Albert had bitten her on two different occasions … | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.Disagree. Dialogue can show that they know it wasn't consensual, or that they had no prior contact (thus making prior consent for being unconscious impossible). My boyfriend has consent to do whatever while I'm sleeping, and he has evidence of that consent. But I'm sorry. If you are going to arrange and film a violent rape-fantasy gang bang, especially of someone who has been drugged, you're a complete idiot if you don't have some record of the prior consent. Because it doesn't matter if they've… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.So what? If someone is in an amateur fight club, that doesn't mean you can just lynch them on the street. You can have plenty of evidence that can show beyond a reasonable doubt that something was beyond a reasonable doubt non-consensual--drugs (rare, but they are sometimes used), evidence from the rapist themself sent to the victim or someone else, proof that it was an utterly random attack. Like, there was a girl who was pounced on in the subway by a mentally ill man, and dragged off screaming… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Is it wrong for me to ask my prom date to pay for her ticket?Eh. I'm a 24 year old woman, and when I was a senior in high school I paid for my date's ticket because he was a year younger and couldn't buy his own anyways, by school policy. And no one cared. It really depends on where you are, for how your local society looks at it. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 05:55 PM |
| 4 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.It's quite common that "resisting arrest" is a charge ludicrously abused, and most cases could and maybe should be nullified. However, if I were on a jury where it was obvious that the accused was indeed violent and resisting arrest, then I'd still call them guilty. Just because some things are abused doesn't mean that they aren't still worthy of being crimes (unlike, for example, possession of pot, rape is and should always be a bad crime). | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.But that's different from never convicting rape ever. If you disagree with some of the grey areas in rape laws, that's one thing. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 05:38 PM |
| 2 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.Not always. You have the times where there's video or photographic evidence, especially with gang rapes (for some retarded reason). | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Huband files for divorce. Wife douses him in unknown chemical and boiling cooking oil.Ugh. This is as terrible as the acid attacks you hear about elsewhere. I hope the guy isn't terribly scarred for life. :-/ | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Domestic violence situation turns deadly. A man dead, and a woman injured. Police do not charge woman. Names not released.If she was also stabbed, which the article said she was, then self-defense is reasonable without any other evidence. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Domestic violence situation turns deadly. A man dead, and a woman injured. Police do not charge woman. Names not released.Sort of, actually. This came up with the woman who got manslaughter instead of murder for a similar case and someone claimed it could never happen with a man. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Growing up, it's always been my dream of getting married, being a father, and having a partner in life.Less than fifty percent end in divorce. That's still a big if. And even that isn't accurate; if you're not an idiot and wait until you're older and know a person better, and are educated, it drops to 19% ending in divorce for couples who are both college-educated and over 26 when they marry. So no, it's not a when. And not every divorce ends up with the guy being fucked over. In some places it is more common than others, but it's the universal language I'm objecting to. I have seen divorce in my… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Mom convicted of manslaughter. After pleading guilty, Judge fines woman $550 and suspends 4-year sentence. Father say, “[Men] are punished more for hurting a dog than [a woman] killing a child."Will you defend a man as enthusiastically? Yes. I'm a strict egalitarian. I'm also a stickler about intent and the law. The woman who intended to burn her husband's penis but ended up killing him from the wounds? Manslaughter though the attempt to mutilate should also be considered as a serious crime. The woman who intentionally burnt her abusive husband to death in his sleep? Murder, and fuck the whole "Battered Woman" defense for premeditated acts. And leaving two kids in a bath tub, with a hi… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 06:26 PM |
| 3 | Growing up, it's always been my dream of getting married, being a father, and having a partner in life.Can. Can. Not will. I'm completely against unfair divorce laws and I'm all about researching where you get married, but can we please stop exaggerating? There are serious risks to getting married, but they aren't guarantees. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 06:02 PM |
| 4 | New definition of rape: forgetting male victims?It doesn't say that the vagina or anus must belong to the victim. The penetration must occur without consent of the victim, and the victim could be a man. It could be worded more explicitly, but it can easily be used to try to prosecute envelopment. What seems to be left out is oral performed on the victim, of either gender (unless the person sticks their tongue in their vagina). But that would be sexual assault. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:59 PM |
| 5 | This article is making me seriously reconsider whether MRAs/MGTOWs should associate with A Voice For Men.The thing is, there's no evidence for what he's saying. The vast majority of rapes are perpetrated by people the victim knows, and the most common outfit for a rape victim is jeans and a tee shirt. Most rapists don't remember the clothes. Lots of rapists admit they target quieter girls, who look like they won't cause a scene--you can't rape the girl everyone's paying attention to, after all. If you want to argue that slutty clothing leads to rape, you have to prove it first, rather than just ass… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:52 PM |
| 6 | Girlfriend actually showed this to me (100% real)Context. This kind of thing is usually in response to "omg women have it so easy they can all get men to do whatever they want". If it's just isolated entitlement, that's one thing, but if it's in response to the mistaken belief that a vagina is a universal golden ticket, that's different. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:24 PM |
| 5 | Mom convicted of manslaughter. After pleading guilty, Judge fines woman $550 and suspends 4-year sentence. Father say, “[Men] are punished more for hurting a dog than [a woman] killing a child."Because malice, or intent, is what makes the difference between murder and manslaughter. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:05 PM |
| 6 | Mom convicted of manslaughter. After pleading guilty, Judge fines woman $550 and suspends 4-year sentence. Father say, “[Men] are punished more for hurting a dog than [a woman] killing a child."Yes, and if I accidentally run over a person in my car versus plot to murder someone and stab them with a knife, the punishments should be different, would you not agree? Even if the same end result is a dead person? There's a reason we have murder vs manslaughter. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:04 PM |
| 2 | Mom convicted of manslaughter. After pleading guilty, Judge fines woman $550 and suspends 4-year sentence. Father say, “[Men] are punished more for hurting a dog than [a woman] killing a child."You're right about the fines probably being higher, but animal neglect, as opposed to dogfighting, usually includes no jail time. /pedant That said, this woman better have lost custody of her other child, and should probably have gone to jail for a while. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Fuck everything about this.Well, that's a fault of the people you know, not a gender issue. I know plenty of women who are ravenous sports fans. I'm not, but I sit around reading comic books and being nerdy and going hiking with my boyfriend all the time, and while there's a slight majority of men amongst our local reddit group, there are almost always present, usually between 30 and 40%. And the more stereotypically "feminine" activities, like cooking things, are attended by men, too. Either you have really stereotypical… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/12 01:56 PM |
| 1 | TIL that among college-educated couples, the percentages of divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%Well, you're cynical. I'm a strict gender egalitarian and spend a lot of defending whichever one's under fire, if it's undeserved. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/12 08:53 PM |
| 2 | /r/sex discussion where the OP reverses the gender roles to see how everyone reactsThere's still a difference. One is an objective answer, the other is subjective. Most people who get upset about someone slutshaming their SO aren't on the question-answer tack, but are quite rightly lambasting the person for slutshaming and judging on things that aren't that big of a deal and can't be changed. I'm not disagreeing with your statement that it should hold true in both situations, just with your portrayal of how people react to the situations. And also that it's all about men havin… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 06:43 PM |
| 26 | TIL that among college-educated couples, the percentages of divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%But the divorce percentage of college-educated couples who marry after age 26 is only 19%. And who initiates says nothing about who's at fault. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 05:42 PM |
| 1 | A favor, for the next episode of AVfM radioIf you are including Klinefelter's Syndrome, hyperplasia, androgyn insensitivity, and similar, not just "true" hermaphroditism, the rate of intersex and ambiguous sex can be as high as 1.7%. And that's not including transgendered people. So yes, between 98-99% being cis is an accurate estimation. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 04:31 PM |
| 1 | A favor, for the next episode of AVfM radioSomeone who is cis is neither trans nor intersex. If heterosexuals are ~96% of the population, why does cis folk being ~98-99% of the population matter? That 2-3% is that important? It's not like it matters most of the time. But it's useful for talking about gender identity issues. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 04:04 PM |
| 1 | A favor, for the next episode of AVfM radioIt's not just about trans people. 1% of all births are intersexed to some degree. Just under 4% of Americans identify as LGBT. So, should we not bother with "heterosexual" then, just because only a small percentage of people are other? (Though of course, I'm pretty sure that 4% will become wider as old people die off and everyone becomes more comfortable coming out of the closet.) | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 03:34 PM |
| 2 | A favor, for the next episode of AVfM radioIt's a short and easy term for saying that your gender identity matches your biological sex, and that you are obviously XX or XY. And it isn't just about cis vs trans; there are also the intersex, people with ambiguous genitalia, and the people with genetic issues that make them physically look like the opposite sex, etc. It's not just a case of "trans or not". Cis specifically means that yes, everything matches up as "normal". It's no more useless than heterosexual is. There aren't just "the ga… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 02:58 PM |
| 2 | A favor, for the next episode of AVfM radioEh. As someone active in the LGBT community, it's useful. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 02:39 PM |
| 6 | /r/sex discussion where the OP reverses the gender roles to see how everyone reactsThere's a difference between being upset that someone lived their life before you and had other sex partners when you didn't, and telling your partner they aren't the best sex. I mean, she shouldn't have asked, but they're still not quite comparable. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:57 PM |
| 4 | Dave Chappelle How Women Dress QuoteFrom your perspective, that's fine. From Mr Chapelle's, however, he is using a far more traditional view of whores. Whore is also a very insulting, dirty word for a prostitute that carries a lot more meaning than just someone who has sex for money. But there's more to it than just that. What is a whore's uniform? A cop has an actual uniform. A whore can wear anything. You see streetwalkers who wear crazy-looking, revealing outfits and stripper shoes. Very few "normal" women wear things like that… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:42 PM |
| 6 | Ryan Gosling saves feminist from being run over. Feminist is indignant.I didn't follow the story at all. But her quote says nothing against Ryan Gosling, just against the media. The headline makes it seem like she's mad at him. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:30 PM |
| 6 | Why would men pay for sex?A lot of feminists do support it. There's just a huge split amongst feminists between sex-positive ones, and the sex-negative ones. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:26 PM |
| 2 | Why would men pay for sex?Actually, most married couples have more sex than their counterparts. 1 in 5 marriages does fall into "sexless" (10 or fewer instances per year), but that's far from a majority. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:26 PM |
| 3 | A favor, for the next episode of AVfM radioWait, we who? I think it's a really useful term. Just because a handful of SRS idiots coopted it to be an insult doesn't make it not useful. I'm cis and accept it, I think it's really great for discussing gender issues. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:18 PM |
| 12 | Dave Chappelle How Women Dress QuoteIt's slutshaming. "If you wear something I believe to be provocative, then you are asking to be treated like a whore." Edit to those downvoting: As I explain below, not only is "whore" a much more loaded word than just being someone who has sex for money, there isn't actually an official uniform. What is a whore's uniform? A cop has an actual uniform. A whore can wear anything. You see streetwalkers who wear crazy-looking, revealing outfits and stripper shoes. Very few "normal" women wear things… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:13 PM |
| 0 | Ryan Gosling saves feminist from being run over. Feminist is indignant.She didn't mind the rescue, she minded the media's portrayal of it. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Go to the fourth cast member in this article: "My primary source of income is two divorces,” she says. “I have worked very hard for every single penny I’ve earned. I was married to two very irritating men. Not very long, of course, but I definitely worked hard for my money.”Sorry if it wasn't clear, I meant that marriage is common even if monogamy is not. The concept of long-term pair bonding is a human one--but socially, not just sexually. Monogamy is indeed not a basic rule of human sexual behaviour in the slightest, and never has been. But a lot of people think marriage=monogamy, when there's a lot more to marriage than just that, and often it doesn't include it at all. I certainly plan to get married, but not monogamously. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:05 PM |
| 5 | Go to the fourth cast member in this article: "My primary source of income is two divorces,” she says. “I have worked very hard for every single penny I’ve earned. I was married to two very irritating men. Not very long, of course, but I definitely worked hard for my money.”Marriage as we know didn't exist until very recently. Marriage has always been changing and evolving, there is no set definitions for marriage. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Go to the fourth cast member in this article: "My primary source of income is two divorces,” she says. “I have worked very hard for every single penny I’ve earned. I was married to two very irritating men. Not very long, of course, but I definitely worked hard for my money.”What? I'm against almost all cases of alimony, there are very few exceptions, and all of them have strict limits. What exactly do you see me doing? | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 04:47 PM |
| 3 | Go to the fourth cast member in this article: "My primary source of income is two divorces,” she says. “I have worked very hard for every single penny I’ve earned. I was married to two very irritating men. Not very long, of course, but I definitely worked hard for my money.”Marriage in varying forms (though often not resembling much of what we consider to be marital [aka monogamy], though you can find similar exceptions in modern societies as well) is found in every human culture on Earth, including the ones that have never been exposed to the religions we know of until the anthropologists descend. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Go to the fourth cast member in this article: "My primary source of income is two divorces,” she says. “I have worked very hard for every single penny I’ve earned. I was married to two very irritating men. Not very long, of course, but I definitely worked hard for my money.”Generally only for child support, though, from what I've seen. Not just alimony. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 03:31 PM |
| 9 | Go to the fourth cast member in this article: "My primary source of income is two divorces,” she says. “I have worked very hard for every single penny I’ve earned. I was married to two very irritating men. Not very long, of course, but I definitely worked hard for my money.”Marriage existed before any religions we know of, and has been moving further and further from a religious institution with time. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 03:30 PM |
| 5 | Go to the fourth cast member in this article: "My primary source of income is two divorces,” she says. “I have worked very hard for every single penny I’ve earned. I was married to two very irritating men. Not very long, of course, but I definitely worked hard for my money.”It used to be legal for a husband to rape his wife, until only a couple of decades ago. We changed those laws. It is not "marriage" that does any of this, it is evil people exploiting marriage. Marriage has constantly been changing and evolving; changing divorce laws to get rid of the vast majority of alimony solves a gold-digging problem. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Pregnant and conflicted, MRAs fall in.Don't even bother with the adoption offer unless he protests against the idea of abortion. There's no reason to put your life and body on the line for a child you don't want and would rather abort, if he doesn't want it either. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 05:27 PM |
| -3 | (PDF) Between 8-12% rape cases established as false, not just unfounded (major UK study)First off, "police estimations" are not facts. Look at how many police officers defend bad cops. Secondly, those still only apply to Bavaria. Maybe Bavaria is full of false accusers, I don't know. But until you have a wider sample, it's a useless stat for anything outside of Bavaria. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 05:22 PM |
| 4 | Planned Parenthood turns down $500,000 from Tucker Max (X/Post from TwoXChromosomes)If you really watched the video then you would see how your explantions don't match up. They even offered the guy a fucking DISCOUNT for mass abortions. Does that sound like "gathering details to pass onto the FBI" to you. Why didn't they just get the fucking details and then call it quits. Ah yes, because I'm sure if you were an employee at a clinic who was approached by a sex trafficker, you'd know exactly how to play it cool while trying to keep the guy talking to find out more about him so t… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Planned Parenthood turns down $500,000 from Tucker Max (X/Post from TwoXChromosomes)The rest of what you said doesn't really make sense. Why would they require to gain the details by co-operation thus incriminating themselves first if all they had to do was just call the police in the first place. What evidence would the clerk have to turn over? If you arrest the guy there, there's no evidence and they get off and disappear with the girls. Why do you think the FBI trails known criminals for long periods of time until they have enough evidence? I take it all the underage girls t… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:59 PM |
| 6 | Planned Parenthood turns down $500,000 from Tucker Max (X/Post from TwoXChromosomes)He wanted a clinic named after him. That's a bit different. If they really did turn down the "anonymous" offer he made after, then that's stupid of them, but turning down the offer requiring they name a clinic after him is perfectly logical. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Planned Parenthood turns down $500,000 from Tucker Max (X/Post from TwoXChromosomes)Almost everything he said was bullshit, especially the pimp one. I went into more detail above. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Planned Parenthood turns down $500,000 from Tucker Max (X/Post from TwoXChromosomes)Accept donations from racists who wanted to donate money for the sole purpose for being used to abort African Americans. Source? Also, I think them turning down Tucker Max's money was stupid. I think any organization should take money from idiots who happen to want to donate and use it for better purposes. Less money for racists, more money to help people. Agree a deal with a pimp to give abortions to prostitutes when that is against the law. Actually, not only was that a faked stunt by an anti-… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:00 PM |
| 6 | That about sums up male privilege...Not always. I hate how overused privilege is to attempt to discredit arguments, but it is occasionally relevant. For example, flesh-toned band-aids are a good example of how white people feel normal, like a default, and any other colour is abnormal, even though we're a minority of the world. But, of course, no one can keep it to where it's actually relevant, so I hate to use the word even on the rare occasion that it's justified, because it's so misused to invalidate everything and anything. | /r/MensRights | 31/03/12 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Voluntary sex causes as many (vaginal) injuries as rape, study claims. Men have been convicted with this being the primary "evidence".I actually have a friend who is taking part in an American study on this. She has to have sex with her boyfriend at specific times and then go in to get studied. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/12 03:24 PM |
| 8 | Voluntary sex causes as many (vaginal) injuries as rape, study claims. Men have been convicted with this being the primary "evidence".We know it has huge mental effects though. Just because physical injuries aren't there doesn't mean it's not a serious crime. Otherwise, molesting children, so long as you're gentle, shouldn't be a big deal either. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/12 03:23 PM |
| 2 | Voluntary sex causes as many (vaginal) injuries as rape, study claims. Men have been convicted with this being the primary "evidence".Ohgodohgodohgod I have new nightmares now, thanks a lot. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/12 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Or...you could try being honest. Just a thought, Cosmo.It's a bit of a cycle. I've spent a lot of time traveling alone. I have been subjected to negative experiences with strangers approaching me while traveling alone, including actual physical harassment and trying to following me home. So I prefer to avoid dealing with strangers in general when I'm out, and will have headphones in and generally a book in my hand reading. Someone who sees that I am occupied and still interrupts me because they just want to chat is going to be extra annoying to me. … | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Or...you could try being honest. Just a thought, Cosmo.Eh. Maybe that depends on the girl. I know personally, I get really annoyed with people who try to hit on me in outside circumstances where I just want to be left alone. I'm more receptive in places that are designated for it, and just slapping on a polite veneer over irritation if I'm interrupted at other stuff. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Instead of women quotas, top management positions should be opened to part time employees to become part time bosses. More company child care and flex work time are needed for women. 51% of women FELT that they already suffered discrimination. |Der SpiegelMore company child care is a great idea. It stops women who are valuable assets from having to choose between having children (we want the talented people breeding) and their career. Especially for management-level positions in larger businesses, it's not a pipe dream. That would let them take a lot less time off to just do the physical recovery, but still be able to provide breastfeeding for their kids. The flex time, though. Most jobs just can't do that. I mean, maybe if you're talking about, … | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Female privilege: how women are free to dress how they please but men aren't free to appreciate it. Check out this reasoning: "Some women like it [men checking them out], plenty of women do it to men (irrelevant! Power differential!)".As a woman who does have a problem with catcalling and harassment and the entitlement that some men feel to any cute girl's time (by which I mean the ones who get upset when you don't respond or turn them down, not just anyone who approaches), looking is not even on my list of things to bothered by. Do we still have some problems with the idea that women's bodies are public decorations? Yeah. But those problems start when people actually start interacting. Merely looking at someone is never, has… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 01:11 PM |
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