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Yes once learning about shit tests and recognizing them in my life, my goals are (1) navigate the shit test when it appears and (2) work on getting away from people who habitually do this. Requiring people to constantly “prove themselves” to you is born from neediness and insecurity. I don’t do it to anyone in my life, and somehow I do fine. I don’t associate with people if I don’t trust them, instead of constantly deciding schemes for them to prove themselves. And it’s often a bottomless pit. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:12 PM
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Also women: “🤔but why are so many men afraid of commitment”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 10:55 PM
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I think it’s by far the most realistic perspective available if you want to meet, have sex with, and date women. A healthy relationship is great but a lot of relationships aren’t healthy, and a lot of women act out in a predictable manner (as I’m sure men do, but we’re talking about strategies for women). It doesn’t make me hate women but it does make me recognize certain dysfunctional behaviors with “🙄oh THAT is happening now.” Far more healthy than my old life trying to placate someone that ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:11 PM
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For men that struggle I often see some obvious problems in their approach: they are awkward and boring, they write a shitty dating bio, they dress too plain, have weird glasses, etc. I also find most men to be pretty bad at recognizing and adjusting for this. he followed traditional bluepilled advice of not looking for it (it’ll happen when you least expect it Definitely agree this is a bad approach. I believe dating and attraction are iterative learning processes. Certainly for men. That means …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:42 PM
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Pet theory that virtue signaling occurs strictly in favor of non-threatening groups; groups that the actually privileged are not threatened by. Fat women being one. I dont think it’s a strategic method of gimping the competition, so much as it’s “you are so unthreatening to me I will advocate for you, because it makes me look benevolent and literally doesn’t matter.” Secondly, there would be no “black lives matter” if white men fetishized, chased, and married black women in alarming numbers. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 01:54 PM
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It’s a philosophy about sexual and romantic relationships, why the fuck would it solve world peace😂? I’m sorry you thought that’s what TRP is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:02 PM
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I wouldn’t expect much to change; even if it isn’t #1 now, it’s already the new thing with the most momentum, and most energy behind it. It might already be the leader as these surveys are somewhat lagging indicators. For people outside a tight community like college, it’s the default step 1 of most people’s dating experience. They only look elsewhere after OLD fails them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:55 PM
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Yes totally agree. Tired of these people shitting up discussions about attraction with “I want to snuggle with my soulmate.” Who gives a shit about your boring asses. Go start a thread about hugging or something, losers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 07:53 PM
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Totally agree as a man. I spent the last year dating and met so many different people. There’s a constant supply of dates who will actually meet you in person at a bar, which is worlds ahead of any male acquaintances in my life. A lot of men just aren’t interested in friendships at all, it doesn’t matter how proactive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:49 PM
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Well what about this energetic spin class instructor I saw one time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:01 PM
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Lmao why does this happen every time we discuss age on this subreddit?? Yes I am comfortable using a yoga instructor as an example of a typical average 40 year old woman, the day that most or even a sizable minority of 40 year old women start looking like yoga instructors. I’ve been out there: they don’t. The drop from 30 to 40 can be pretty harsh for a lot of people. Yet every single time someone pops in here like “waaait a minute I saw this one hot woman who defies age better than 95% of the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:41 PM
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OBVIOUSLY. Similarly, if the man fails to get aroused it is his fault for sinning with pornography. If a woman can’t get aroused it is the man’s fault for not arousing her
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:30 PM
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Yes totally agree. I do this for less than the cost of a single date, and match people who I actually find attractive, instead of swiping on a bunch of maybes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:40 PM
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If the bridge troll was emotionally available, and the Chad punched a baby at the capitol riot…I guess the Chad but that’s not a good example though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:15 AM
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Every Q4W thread is the most autistic question imaginable, with all of the women doing their best to act confused about the question, or attach a bunch of stipulations to it which make the response unusably wishy-washy. Which in a sense you have to when you’re being asked the most bizarre questions like, “would you rather sleep with a virgin bridge troll or a slutty Chad with HPV”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:34 AM
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From my experience dating there’s no doubt. Some frequent comments I’ve received: women impressed with a stable career. In a sense, I believe this is an indicator of general stability and not necessarily about 💰. But I’ve also had women come back to it repeatedly and say they’re genuinely attracted to it. Like they wouldn’t keep bringing it up like that if they weren’t attracted to it. Sexual initiative. Nothing crazy or aggressive, just acting decisively when the situation arises. Not being afr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 10:27 AM
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so are you committing to the "sexually open" girl who hops in bed with you quickly?? Yes in fact that’s exactly what I’m saying. Rather than someone who wants to withhold or impose requirements on me. But I can’t speak for everyone; you have to decide what you want for yourself. It’s not going to please everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 02:14 AM
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Yes I think a lot of women’s vetting ideas fall under this. Desperate guys will tolerate interrogation, demands, and withholding for sex. It doesn’t make them better choices. I have some options, I’m no giga-chad, but make me select between a sexually open person and one who is very standoffish, making demands, requirements, and interrogations before sex is even on the table….well the decision is pretty easy. Edit: lol women doing the slut shaming to themselves, typical
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:39 PM
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lots of women want sex, just not the haggard, sad, and lonely women you see on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:20 PM
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Oh I didn’t realize you had talked to one guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:38 PM
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A common pivot when TRP is dead on accurate about something, is to claim EVVVVERYONE ALREADY KNEWWW THAT, even though, as you observe, lots of people actually don’t. Among educated liberal circles, some ideas are so common as to be “obvious,” however not nearly as common in the rest of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:53 PM
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Well if someone is looking for a straw man for shaming male preferences, teenage girls works a lot better so 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:24 PM
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Lol here we go, everyone going to pretend like this isn’t true now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:54 PM
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Women don’t generally communicate about sex very well, and oftentimes flee if you try to. Even in this thread, they would have you believe that kind of rough stuff is rare, but just about every woman I’ve been with wants some variation of kinky aggression. It’s best to proceed with the expectation that you’ll get less than accurate feedback. It’s easy enough to test the waters then pull back if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:19 PM
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In marriages I think pretty common. A lot of the horrible advice encourages people to have sex because it’s important to one of the partners, as opposed to examining why you dont want to do it in the first place, or if you really desire to be in that relationship at all. So people might starfish pity fuck out of a sense of obligation. With just a random guy I don’t think so. I think a more likely explanation is she hooked up but later was embarrassed about it, and tried to rebrand it as a pity f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:27 PM
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Q4A: how dare you. What gives you the right
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:57 PM
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Women have such variety and intensity of orgasms compared to men. I’ve had more than one tell me their legs were shaking an hour later, and it felt weird walking. Or they keep getting them consecutively. Or the clit O feels different than the vaginal O. Mine (as a man) are all pretty much one kind: 5-10 seconds of YUUUUGHHHCVZCZ and then I feel like sleeping after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:06 PM
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But why though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:53 PM
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Women and it’s not even close. Women build up an entire persona around impressing their friends, acquaintances and family. Women want the professional family photos to show off, the clean house with seasonal decorations. It’s women who pressure each other into being “perfect” wives and mothers, having well behaved children, and perfect husbands. Marketers speak to women about “make your friends jealous” because that’s what women do to each other. Sure you could say men do all of this to some deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:13 AM
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It just seems like the best place to get relationship advice would be from people who have successful relationships. I don’t know that this is necessarily true. A LOT of people are in “successful” relationships because one partner is swallowing their pride or silently carrying the weight. And I find a lot of these people have thoughts about how they have some intuition or unique insight into relationships, when really they just happen to be married to someone who will take all of their shit. Mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:51 PM
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I find that people are upfront, or expect other people to be very upfront about things they have anxiety over. It sounds ok in theory but usually comes off as desperate and needy in practice. I think everyone has had an experience where someone started oversharing on a first date, and how it’s so off-putting and you just want to escape the situation. I think it’s awkward for that reason: if they go right to the hard stuff too fast, it feels like the person has some unresolved anxiety and they’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:47 PM
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Was just rewatching the office. Jim proposes to Pam after he gets insecure about her moving away for college and meeting a new friend group. The same episode she is laughing with another guy on the phone and Jim decides to drive up the same day and propose. So she basically dread gamed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:06 PM
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Divorce happens all the time now and nobody really cares This can’t be overstated for people who think there’s some social shame price to leaving a marriage. I got divorced and I can’t think of a single person who really cares. Worst case, people ask about it like they ask about a new car you bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:52 PM
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Prefer 50/50 all the time. First date it seems too petty to judge someone over it. If she’s never offering to pay, it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:34 AM
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This is all a bunch of useless chaff designed to stall every discussion until people have moved on. People set out to discuss differences in gender but instead have all of the oxygen sucked out of the room by people who loudly insist there MAY BE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THIS. Okay?? Great. What a coincidence we need to start talking about all these exceptions every time those gender differences start getting uncomfortable, or start touching on traditional stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:47 PM
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This is such a lazy deflection that people use whenever they hear something they don’t like. Even worse, it makes every conversation about men and women taboo because you aren’t “allowed” to discuss differences in gender behavior, which impact us all. Instead you have a bunch of people like this trying to shout over top of everyone that we’re all the same in every way, preventing any real discussion from happening. Of course you spend all this time trying to insist on pure equality then walk it …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:12 PM
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I got married pretty young and “accepted” someone with a lot of red flags because I was less confident. I got increasingly successful throughout my 30’s and felt that she was stagnant through that entire period. No ambition, no motivation, constant negativity. I tried every way I could to drag her along with me, and stop bringing negative energy to the relationship, but she was too set in her ways. Ultimately I didn’t “leave her” but we did split up and a big reason was me becoming more successf…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:45 AM
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Yes. If you look at common discussion threads, people hate small talk, they hate talking to their neighbors, their coworkers, their family at thanksgiving. Everyone is too cool to socialize with anyone around them. Then they expect to jump into online dating - a very social activity - and are uncomfortable and anxious about the whole experience. Or they can’t handle the pleasantries and etiquette that you would encounter when socializing with people. Or have the experience to politely focus on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:39 PM
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It’s literally so easy. TRP is just telling you how to act like a man, like women expect you to. Like what’s she going to say “oh he stopped texting me after I was playing games/tried to friendzone him/was too clingy?? GOT EM” “He flirted with me and communicated attraction during our date? 🚩”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 04:56 PM
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I had one, not because of Roe but because I don’t want any more kids. My takeaway was that it’s expensive (in the US), painful, and awkward to have a voluntary procedure done on your balls. It is NOT just snip snip no big deal like everyone has tried to say since Roe. Still believe it was right for me and my situation. But I think any campaign for mass vasectomy of men is just a nonstarter for those reasons. You can debate about what should be done, or how women have it worse in some way, I just…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:38 PM
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Yes I’ve done OLD for long enough to notice that people try to horde “options” for as long as they can, just in case they get desperate. Like most hoarders, their prizes mostly sit on the shelf and go to waste. Anyone with any kind of success would tell you to avoid this long haul strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:54 PM
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It just seems like an excuse that his body doesn’t turn her on I think a lot of relationship problems are actually this, but women won’t admit it, and will make some unrelated claims that put the man at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:15 PM
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I don’t know that it’s tied to being so-called “alpha widowed.” I hook up with a lot of divorced women who comment on their friends who just have zero drive or motivation to meet men. They go years without sex or even masturbation. A lot of women, especially as they get older, just don’t have the libido or drive for sex and just sit there dormant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:52 PM
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Literally just google it, genius. If that source isn’t good enough for you (which I’m sure it isn’t, because nobody who brainlessly parrots “source” actually wants a source), then why are are you on Reddit and not some elite academic institution browsing white papers and symposiums.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:41 PM
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This will be one of those occasions where people try to point out exceptions “MY partner came from a broken home and they are well adjusted.” I agree that can happen, but as stated in the OP title: that is RARE and you should expect that won’t happen until thoroughly proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:26 PM
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Anyone who seriously studies gender differences, immediately notices how women survive and gain leverage through social networks whereas men do so through the merits of their labor. Your value in society will dictate your actions. If men are valued for accomplishments they will focus on that at the expense of social networks. Im not making a value judgement on either approach. Some people will be upset about this and try to point out exceptions. I agree there are exceptions and I am over-simplif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:18 PM
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If only we took all the energy spent on convincing ourselves that the wall doesn’t exist, and channeled it into some useful endeavor. Sorry, age and time exist. People’s desirability decreases with both. It’s ok it’s not the end of the world but it’s real. Appearance-wise, we don’t know when a specific individual will start showing age in their appearance, but we know that over time that risk increases. So it becomes increasingly irresponsible to tell people that age won’t matter to them, when i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:19 PM
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I was going to say “no” but I forgot about this problem. Imagine how many women get serious perks from this type of abominable simping. They’re pretty much beholden to the social media lifestyle as long as they want to keep the gifts (and the ego boosts) flowing. And yea I’m sure this type of thing happened before the internet, but girls literally just put their Venmo or Amazon wishlist on their IG/OF page now, it’s next level efficiency. I’m sure lots of people would alter their life plans if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:25 AM
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Good post I agree and find it totally uncontroversial. However given where we are, people feel the need to deny the most basic inconvenient truths about their gender. PPD women responses, in order of decreasing preference: deny and (optional) accuse you of being an 1ncel loser agree but deflect, claiming both sexes or all people do this equally and there is no distinction between genders that can be seen agree that women specifically do this, but it’s merely a subset of crazy women and you shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:00 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:57 AM
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There was a discussion thread on the divorce subreddit where a lot of people were reflecting on the reason for their divorce, and a ton of people (including myself) basically said it was day 1 problems, nothing new, that did it. Just the same problem that never went away, or maybe got worse. I lost the thread, but it’s not an uncommon sentiment. Obviously doesn’t explain every divorce but I think it does for a lot of them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:58 AM
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Interesting, I like this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:38 PM
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Yeah and here were are on a subreddit full of horny autists, the perfect venue for scientific purity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:15 PM
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If he said “let’s start going to the gym and eating better” my reaction would be positive. Maybe. But I’ve also had the experience of: “why do we need to go to the gym? I’m tired. There’s too many chores. I want to do something else. The gym doesn’t work because I walked on the treadmill and I’m still fat” leaving no choice but to be direct
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:08 PM
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This guy asks men and women how they’d respond if your spouse said “you’ve gained a lot of weight and as a result I’ve lost sexual attraction for you.” A positive response is along the lines of “I should work on it.” A negative response is “well screw you, you can leave.” Can you guess the gender breakdown of positive vs negative responses? Men: 87% positive. Women 93% NEGATIVE. LMAO. Reading the comments the common response is to make excuses for women. The questions weren’t the same, you’re ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:51 PM
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Debt or financial trouble that impacts their ability to go out and have fun, living with parents (I’m late 30’s), ambivalence towards sex. Current addiction or mental illness struggles. I don’t usually tell them, most of that usually comes out within the first couple dates, unless they are just lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:40 PM
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I would fuck down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:18 AM
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I guess /r/seduction is dead? They have a stickied post about how “the sky is not falling” but it seems like the sky fell. Zero activity since that stickied post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:51 PM
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As a man I kind of like bumble for that reason. I’d rather women express that tiny bit of initiative, even though it’s not foolproof. I have no problem picking up the effort from there and trying to engage with someone, I just don’t do the “low effort scattershot” thing too well. If they’ve taken the tiniest initiative it helps motivate me to put a little creative effort into my opening few messages. I like the 24 hour timer too, to keep things moving, but I feel like it forces people to start l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:11 PM
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Of course you should offer as the man. You have to play the game if you want to win. Do I think it’s funny that women act financially independent and then constantly search for prosperity markers in men? Of course, but the game isn’t changing any time soon. Check off the easy boxes you know they want to see, and focus your energy on more productive things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:20 PM
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I was going to say from the opposite perspective, as a man dating women, I get a lot of matches that are like…why are you wasting time on here? Even if they like me first, I quickly match with them, they message me first, I give them a lot of “ammunition” (i.e: questions and comments to jump on), still there’s a significant minority of lazy boring convos. I know the go-to answer is that they obviously matched some gigachad and are too busy salivating over his dick rn, but I think the simpler exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:26 PM
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Any kind of avoidance about sex right in the bio (very limited space on tinder) is an immediate no for me. And I’m not looking for ONS. I figure they are so insecure or standoffish or not over something from their past, that sex is a touchy subject, and it just isn’t going to work with us. Even if we do actually do anything sexual they’ll act like I did some horrible unfair thing if I ever end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:52 PM
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Yes, especially style/image stuff. Like dressing nice, haircut, taking good photos. Some may put in a token effort and buy a collared shirt and then throw their hands up in the air proclaiming it doesn’t work. Others think it’s too corny to even try, and just press on with shitty aesthetics. It takes time effort and money, most aren’t willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:23 PM
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OK you want a real one: Online dating is not that bad. Dating is weird and so are people, you can’t make an app to stop them from being weird. They’ve always been that way. OLD facilitates you meeting a lot of people but the rest you’re on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:52 AM
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You’re asking, basically 12-16 y/o boys to have the intuition to break away from a parent figure and learn the life lesson that you can’t trust women, it’s just not going to happen the majority of the time. Most will absorb the wrong life lesson in their formative years and any attempts to pull them away will be seen as invasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:15 PM
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YES oh my god, i hear all this talk about cold approach. Then I actually look into it and dudes are like…I approached 240 women at the mall and 12 of them gave me their number. I can’t even fathom approaching that many women and getting flat out rejected by 95% of them, and then wondering what’s up with the 5% that actually accepted. Aside from just the mental toll of all that rejection… you still need to screen those that actually accepted. Then you still have to chat them up via text and preve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:05 AM
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a loser who treats her like a Goddess is also worthless. Again these are fantasies I think it’s interesting this whole fantasy is totally congruent with women’s preferences in the dating market. Most women want to be actively pursued by high value men, and put themselves in a position to be noticed and therefore sought after. They don’t want to do the pursuing, and will often find reasons to justify why they shouldn't need to take the initiative. How many discussion threads where men say “yes pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 08:19 PM
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Work from home is a force multiplier at getting me laid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:32 PM
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I really don’t give a shit either. I’ve been reading stupid shit on the internet for far over ten years, which is the only place I ever hear people complain about this, and I have never cared and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:26 PM
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she probably cast a spell with the damn crystals please get tested
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:07 PM
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I don’t know why people keep saying this as if it refutes anything. If women actually believe in true 50/50 equity, it should be easy to find a consensus opinion that they’d split finances equally, and not just chores. Instead we have the outliers (women who out-earn men) piping up about…still not equity….while the lower earning women conveniently keep their mouths shut and stay away from that thread. Equity only applies when men need to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 02:41 PM
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I never really saw the need for an extended hedonistic “find yourself” stage deep into your 20’s and 30’s, other than maybe partying in high school/college if you want to. This is one of my big disagreements with popular culture in general, and I’m probably in the minority forever. I’m late 30’s M divorced with kids and back on the dating market. SO many women in this age range are out here trying to beat the clock, exuding desperation. Relationship forums are full of people coping with the dark…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:44 PM
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I could easily explain why a stable blue pulled guy would logically be a better option, doesn’t mean that she’ll actually choose him lol. In fact quite the opposite. I see women in here constantly justify why they want an interesting fun tall guy because of evolution and biology and “common sense.” As a guy I take advantage of this myself. If that’s what they want then go for it! But now you’re asking me to justify their bad choices. I’d say go ask women why they choose this, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:22 AM
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Remember all that "hard work at home"? See what happens to it being "hard" when it's man being the "housewive"? Curious phenomena, ain't it? Yup this supports my idea that domestic bickering is an outlet for unmotivated spouses. They have nothing going, no career, no prospects, no goals. Who can blame them? They are a parent now, and therefore permitted to abandon all other expectations. What a surprise they find this life totally unfulfilling. But WHAT IF I TOLD YOU that your spouse is the sour…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:14 AM
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Haha, not sure if I’m attractive but this is my exact experience when a woman is interested. Literally everything about you is some interesting and sexy backstory. I could put my pants on and breathe oxygen and that will just add to the persona, they’ll just fill in the blanks. I have to force myself to lean into it because it seems so crazy to me. The only downside is sometimes the magic just wears off and then you can’t get it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:00 PM
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" just be yourself and the right one will come along, it's just fate , blah blah blah" Yes, there was another similar thread on this topic recently and my point was: ALL the best advice for men comes from TRP. If you don’t like it, consider giving men better advice that doesn’t revolve around complete passivity and agreeableness. They know that doesn’t work. Offer something better than TRP that actually works for helping men to get noticed, hook up, or have a fulfilling relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:45 PM
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You could take TRP in a negative direction which isn’t really my style, however, outside of TRP centric circles, the advice given to men is SO bad. Just awful. People get worried about men and masculinity, so they encourage men to be passive, docile, give up their independence immediately once they are in a relationship. It’s the way people would like things to be vs reality. Women will encourage all of this, get bored or resentful, and then leave. I’ll say this: there’s a reason all of the good…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:48 AM
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Yeah, and one thing people never talk about: you’re asked to do all this extra effort “for her,” but that’s not true at all. Youre really going above and beyond so she can impress her friends and acquaintances. Beyond a minimal baseline, it benefits you zero (other than your wife stops annoying you). Women will literally stress out and annoy their entire family just so they can look better for their friends. What a coincidence sex becomes less of a priority around this time too. outside appearan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:12 PM
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The “dont kill her ladyboner” video linked in OP is maybe the best articulation I’ve seen on how to approach marketing yourself as a man (disclaimer I am a man so not the target audience, I just strongly agree with the video). Always approach as if you’re open to a relationship, even if you feel that is unlikely to succeed. Who knows maybe you will. You’re meeting a person and don’t know them yet, how do you KNOW that casual is the only thing you will ever accept? Maybe you realize she’s incredi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:45 PM
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Yes. If you were to believe every other post on dating forums, any man that isn’t feeling a connection is love-bombing and gaslighting women until proven otherwise. Men are always warned not to dehumanize women and “hate the entire gender.” Yet women will assume the guy is a sociopath instead of the Occam’s razor explanation: he was interested and sexually attracted, but lost attraction/interest at some point in the courting process.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:13 PM
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Yes, I constantly see men advised to basically shout your intentions with a bullhorn into their face, especially if your intentions are anything but marriage. Good way to suck the oxygen right out of the room. Not to mention a lot of women will feel embarrassed/called out by your obtuse attempt to “communicate intentions” when they may have otherwise enjoyed the chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:18 PM
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The NPR one gets pretty wishy washy when they start getting to brass tacks. Lots of things “can” and “may” happen. Also this: Stopping porn use didn't seem to make much of a difference for the men in the study. Well okay then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:47 AM
2

I had no idea Tom Brady’s oldest kid was not Gisele’s. Apparently after they were ”officially” dating for a month he got his ex pregnant, oops. At least he isn’t a Nice Guy tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:42 PM
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Conflict #1 - Men here tell women to "choose better", yet get offended when women are shown to be more picky on dating apps. I honestly don’t know why you think these two are even related. Taking the first premise at face value (women choose poorly) has nothing to do with how “picky” they supposedly are. If they choose poorly, it doesn’t matter how many bad choices they make. You guys tell women they are responsible for their own physical safety, and chivalry is "dead". Then you complain that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:16 PM
4

our commitment is not nearly as worthy as it was 100 years. Also woman commitment has became valuable. When a guy is looking for a relationship for a woman it seems like he is offering his already not that worthy commitment cheaply. This creates a situation in which woman seems more valuable then man does. Too much obsessing over how men have no value. Women want and value commitment from men, except for femcells on Reddit. As a man your commitment and stability is valuable to women. I realize t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:46 PM
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I think the overall point makes sense but you’re looking at it from too lowly of a point, and putting women on too much of a pedestal. Women are more likely to want sparks and magic and feelings, so give it to them if you want to be considered. Set your dates and your personality and your actions up accordingly. Sex is one way. So is having a desirable persona, looking attractive, taking initiative. If you don’t create some magic, a lot of women won’t even consider you romantically at all. Other…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:17 AM
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Lol what. It in fact makes my life very much better.
/r/seduction25/10/22 02:05 PM
26

Also hilarious: “she can just lie.” Yet apparently it’s utterly impossible to use red pill behaviors to attract women because lying is impossible and “she’ll find out eventually.” Apparently high n count women are complete and utter chameleons, and never telegraph their preferences through clothing, favorite artists, social media posts, leisure activities, friends, or sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:36 AM
1

This is a common sentiment on here that I highly disagree with. I’ve had flings start and stop, and whether the sex was good was only a part of it. If you’re sexually compatible, that maybe buys you a few repeat rounds. After that, other forces take over. People freak out about being too attached, other people don’t want a FWB thing, or they have some ephemeral fleeting dislike about the non-sex part of the relationship. And then it’s over, even though the sex was great. Besides, if this were tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:43 AM
11

At the grocery store, staring at the 80/20 beef, cursing hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:37 PM
0

OLD is actually not the worst thing. It gets you exposed to far more people than ever. Most guys just have atrocious vibes from a lifetime of introversion, and they suck at marketing themselves in that medium.
/r/seduction16/10/22 10:15 PM
2

It’s a big downgrade for me. Never seems to develop into anything if they can’t even take the time to text me. Which makes sense if you think about it: I wouldn’t “forget” to text a girl I was super interested in. If I really like them I’ll propose a date, and if they decline or demur 🤷‍♂️ oh well, next. Sort of applying the Mark Manson “polarize them into yes or no” thing.
/r/seduction16/10/22 12:24 AM
1

Lol I have a crazy feeling that if she truly felt scorned, a text of “fyi I’m just here to sling dick and gtfo” wouldn’t make things much better
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:27 AM
1

This situation sounds delightfully awkward. Guy trying to score a casual hookup with a coworker. Everyone in the thread demanding he read her the Miranda warning of “this is a casual sex relationship” before they even meet up for the first time. Wish I could watch this unfold in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:08 AM
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I was going to say, in a lot of ways women will invest in a guy, then backwards justify why they need to stay together. I hope this doesn’t sound inc3l-ish, but I’ve seen lots of dudes fuck up pretty bad and not lose their girl, even though she could have dudes crawling all over her in the open dating market. Contrast that with the opening stages where they’re like deer running away at the slightest whiff of uncertainty. Maybe men do this too, idk. But I only date women so I wouldn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:22 PM
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I am 5’10” which I realize isn’t that short, but if I listened to dudes on Reddit, you’d think I am eliminated from 99% of all women’s OLD filters and cast into the dustbin of history
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:29 PM
1

On behalf of all people with vaginas, the congregation thanks Sir Soyboy of the White Knight Brotherhood for his astute signal of virtue
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:06 PM
4

PPD: The wall doesn’t exist but men hit it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:51 PM
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M39 I get an okayish amount of matches and have to filter them. I would say what eliminates most: some are physically unattractive they seem too desperate for marriage/kids. I’d get married again but….chill before we even know each others last names they look boring (boring prompts, bunch of photos with their kids). Even if she’s hot. You want someone who will “feel a spark” or else you’ll get dropped immediately in todays world, and it’s an uphill battle to have a good date with a passive, bori…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:49 PM
1

Women spend millions of dollars and untold hours of daily skincare routines trying to look younger every day, and they CONSTANTLY get catty with each other when competing over men. BUUUT, every time this question comes up, we’re led to believe there is some sisterhood of women virtuously protecting their younger, hotter, more desirable counterparts from “predatory men.” Out of the kindness of their own hearts. Not jealousy. Not them trying to eliminate the competition for desirable men. Every ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:34 PM
1

Not really but I’m worried about scope creep
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:26 AM
7

Damn I guess the entire Red Pill thing was bullshit, because of some YouTube comments. Those comment sections were so clean until he did this. I can’t believe Andrew Tate, who nobody heard of a year ago, has ruined the entire TRP thing by marketing some video series. This retroactively proves that TRP, which has been around for like a decade, is all bullshit. Also it’s now clear to me that no women ever follow any trend. Because of YouTube comments. Later bros, I have realized the error of my wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:18 AM
0

I am repulsed when adults use the word ‘cuddle.’ Like what am I, a bunny rabbit you dickhead
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:45 AM
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If someone is down that bad, any contact at all can be “a chance.” So you continuing to clearly communicate could actually be counter productive at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:53 PM
1

Pretty much agree, if it’s a serious long term commitment you’re looking for. It seems silly to me to bail based on those intangibles. There’s been several interesting people I’d gladly give more time to, despite not feeling any immediate sexual attraction. But the game isn’t changing any time soon. Sparks and butterflies and chemistry are the price of entry, you won’t keep people interested without them. So I set up dates, really my whole presentation of myself with that expectation in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:27 PM
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I think the approachee (is that a word?), being the person that was “minding their own business,” has a lot of social options, a lot of them can be bad for you the approacher. They can reasonably be startled, annoyed, confused, or just be kind of a dick, and generally a 3rd party will side with them if observing the situation. Suddenly you’re a very weird person who did something very stupid in public. You can return the bad attitude back at them but then you’re “this asshole who ran up to us an…
/r/seduction08/10/22 09:51 PM
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(1) I just don’t see a serious push for ethical porn whenever this comes up, which makes me think this is a smokescreen excuse for people who just don’t like porn. There are a plethora of ethical options for adults who wish to participate in porn, but all porn is lumped together as unethical by people who just don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:11 AM
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Pretty much in the same boat here. I am an average 5’10” guy that does ok on the dating apps. There’s nothing special about me. I take basic care of my appearance and dress appropriately, and just talk to people. I’m not outstandingly funny or charming or alpha. I feel like people have a bad time dating and need to convince themselves that women are only interested in the 0.0001% apex of men, so then it’s out of your control and nothing you can do. Then you can do nothing and blame someone else.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:25 PM
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I disagree that men’s attitudes and behavior keep women off of OLD. If they wanted to be there, they would. Women use social media in general more than men. Social media influencers are overwhelmingly women. And for a lot of influencers that means using sex and their bodies in very public forums, to attract the biggest following possible. You think there aren’t weirdos stalkers and psychos on that platform? There are a-holes on every platform yet women still voluntarily choose to be on some more…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:58 PM
1

Seriously excellent post as someone who went through similar. My take is that after marriage, women identify as a more mature “mom” or “wife” and subtly shift their roles away from the more youthful and fun girlfriend/fiancé roles. They identify as a more someone with “more important things to do” and therefore sex falls by the wayside. If they choose this, you face an uphill battle as a man because your only hope is to change their inner aspirations and personality. And her reasons for choosing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:17 AM
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Yes totally agree as someone who used to be like this. This discussion is always the same on Reddit. We MUST discuss, at length, the subset of men who act nice then flip a switch to become slut shaming monsters when they don’t get sex immediately. Then implicitly try to group all “nice guys” into this group of, basically manipulative sociopaths. If pressed on the issue they’ll relent a little and say “okay not all of them, I’m just talking about a certain kind of nice guy,” but that’s literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:17 PM
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Am I crazy…I feel like it’s brought up all the time and constantly and incessantly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 12:59 AM
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it pushes too much blame onto men when the reality is “girls finnicky as hell and ick over nothing, don’t worry about it and move on.” Yes really agree with this, as women are dealing in the realm of “reactive” sexuality and butterflies (pejorative term but basically wanting to feel something), as men you’re constantly needing to appeal to this ephemeral, fleeting feeling which can come and go at a moment’s notice, and could be from things totally out of your control. A lot of people talk like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 01:03 AM
1

the Internet flaunted the male analog into men's faces. I wonder how much of the angst is a result of online dating. There is a special concentrated anger towards OLD. When people hook up in bars and clubs, it’s mostly out of sight. If you don’t fit in there, you just didn’t go, and never see what’s going on. You can convince yourself that everyone lives kinda like you do. Then comes online dating where you have it dangled in front of your face, you sign up and just get rejected decisively forev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:56 PM
3

How common is the scenario of “seeing a Relationship Material guy non-exclusively without getting physical, but also seeing a FWB on the side.” PPD is the only place I hear this discussed frequently. Is it common in different age groups? Is it always women doing this? (Don’t worry I’m not seeing anyone that’s holding out on me. Your mom usually puts out, so no risk of that happening)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 08:28 PM
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No shit, I don’t think anyone with half a brain is suggesting you stay with a child abuser or cheater. Or if they do, they’re getting zero public traction. Yet some people always want to frame this discussion as if that’s the only reason people get divorced. When people criticize divorce rates, they’re talking about partners who divorce over superfluous reasons, over FOMO, or over vague dissatisfaction that they blame on their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:26 PM
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Conversely, you can easily find people on Reddit who will bash the kardashians as being fake and unattractive, but somehow they’re one of the most popular and influential families in the world, and attractiveness is a big part if it. They are regularly affiliated with rappers, NBA players and the highest status men in the world. But if you ask the community on Reddit, their butts are too big and fake. They’re entitled to that opinion, but it doesn’t mean that it’s the popular consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:25 AM
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Someone had an interesting thought on PPD the other day and I can’t stop thinking about it: a large set of women just don’t care about dating at all, and don’t see dating as an imperative need, or blow to their ego. They come home, put on their sweatpants, and fall asleep to crime dramas. Maybe texting a family member or close friend, or socializing within that small group. No interest in expanding it or meeting new people. This is always characterized on PPD as “they can go outside and get dick…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:04 PM
3

With my particular body, I will get very small arms and weak looking shoulders if I don’t lift. And my gut will hang in there until very low bf%. And if I actually get low enough to lose the gut with no weightlifting, I will look absolutely scrawny and emaciated. So no I definitely need to do a bare minimum amount of lifting, regardless of diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:39 PM
2

burping in front of him; being upfront when talking about his short comings Actually this reminds of a girl I was seeing and we drifted apart. I noticed after drifting apart, she would say things like “I was outside all day I’m all sweaty and I stink” or “I’m bloated” which she would never say when interested. Back when she was interested she would only say things that made her look more attractive, like hyping up her cooking skills, sending (probably carefully crafted) selfies, making suggestiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 11:37 PM
1

Is it gay if I walk into a spider web
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:34 PM
0

Probably but you could go a good 10 years or more till she finally gets fed up and leaves for some dude from work. And that period would have its moments I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 08:27 PM
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I would say that women friends from real life CAN offer valuable advice, if you have that kind of friendship with them. That involves both of you being candid (and not having feels for each other). I’ve gotten some interesting insight that way. TRP and Reddit at large, I am much more inclined to agree that women’s opinions on dating are mostly useless. They have too much of an axe to grind. Apparently they all can’t stand the sight of men, are never aroused during sex, repulsed by any sexual adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 04:16 PM
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Totally agree and don’t get why people are so obtuse about it. Plenty of young men get the wrong idea about this. Just tell them that you need more than “nice” if you want to attract women because that won’t cut it. No need to lump them all together as psycho “nice guys” who will turn hostile on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:07 PM
3

Basic structural engineering, why can’t women understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:06 AM
3

It’s respectable size but women aren’t as afraid of it as I would like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:05 AM
2

I get hard if I see a curvy looking mountain. She needs to get on my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:56 AM
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I don’t think I’ve ever done that much foreplay on a girl. Maybe go down on her for like a few mins but that’s it. People act like you have to slowly build up all this anticipation but I feel like usually you can just lay pipe. 🤔deep thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:44 AM
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I’m gonna guess near 100% of responses call this an absolute dealbreaker. Yet somehow people in relationships yell at each other all the time. Weird 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:59 PM
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The greatest dating app imbalance is in Italy, where 91% of all dating app users are men Italian sausage fest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:55 PM
2

Not to sound incel-y but it’s painful watching so many women push forward with men who clearly don’t care that much. Fortunately it’s not my problem. Just cringe and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:03 PM
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I personally like to text a lot (“a lot” = at least a quick convo daily or semi-daily). My thoughts are that: (a) although not universal, it is a show of interest on her part if she writes interesting replies and continues the conversation, and it shows that she’s an interesting person to talk to (b) I’m comfortable with “losing” someone if they don’t like something I say via text. It’s the same stuff I’d say in person. Just flake now if you’re going to do it and spare me the trouble and (c) if …
/r/seduction20/09/22 05:49 PM
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This is excellent, and exactly the talk that should be given to young men. Took me far too long to learn all of this myself. Life would have been much easier if someone had just told me this at an early age, instead of telling me to “get the girl” at all costs. Better late than never though
/r/TheRedPill19/09/22 07:37 PM
3

The median user is swiping 100+ daily??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:06 PM
2

It should be. Don’t allow it, kings 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:46 PM
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This place is utterly saturated with people who ragequit OLD after getting no likes ever, I feel like that affects the tone of every discussion, and I don’t find it relatable at all. Are there any other men who do ok with OLD? I feel like I must be having some anomalous experience after reading this sub. I meet people whenever I have time. The people themselves are a mixed bag but that’s part of the game. I feel like it’s fine for what it is: a facilitator for meeting other single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:43 PM
3

I was going to post a similar thought to this before. I swear I do the same thing every first date, go to similar places, wear the same clothes, talk about the same general stuff. I’ve had women go head over heels, and others dip as soon as possible. It feels less like I’m actively influencing them, and more like they have an idea in their head, and either fall for, or reject that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 01:14 PM
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I tend to rely on this and I think women should too. Dating is full of ego-saving platitudes. Every woman that has slow faded or ghosted me has assured me everything is fine the whole way, “this is just how I am sometimes,” until one day they just stop responding. Also, I think long term, women especially tend to resent having a default leadership role in the relationship activities. So they’ll tell themselves “he’s an otherwise great guy except for this one thing” and push forward anyway, but o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:24 PM
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I used to read a lot of divorce discussions, a lot of people uncovered affairs and there sure seems to be a lot of coworkers, neighbors, or common friends, i.e: people you already know. Usually not some random person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:13 PM
0

I’m 5’10” and use OLD all the time to meet people. I don’t really think about my height that much
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:10 PM
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She won’t do anal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:52 AM
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Thx dick pic incoming
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:34 AM
2

What’s the protocol if you’re seeing a new girl and she sends you a pic of herself - I’m talking a “hey I look nice today” pic not a nude - do you just fire back a compliment? Is it now expected that I send a selfie of myself at some point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:39 AM
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I've NEVER heard a woman say that emulating porn behavior, is a good thing for men, or makes men better lovers. I have to think we’re referring to something specific here, because “porn behavior” encompasses everything under the sun, including a lot of freaky stuff that women have asked ME to do. Reading between the lines I have to think we’re referring to men who get too aggressive without “reading the room,” which is a problem, but it’s just a social skills problem, not a porn problem. Some wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:34 PM
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It is tough to make time. Actually I’m divorced now, but another problem is most wives will complain about it. They all talk a big game but it always comes up when they’re angry about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:55 PM
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I totally fuckin agree with this and was going to post something similar, even though I knew everyone would hate it. Not the cartoonish hardcore male fantasy porn, you idiots. There’s plenty of normal porn where the guy is just using good techniques and good positions that I wouldn’t have come up with myself. I’ve had several wild flings with women…they complimented me, asked for multiple rounds, asked when they could come over again. I was totally channeling porn videos I had recently watched, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:20 PM
1

I usually use OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:14 AM
2

I’m in that age range just outside a bigger city and do fine, although I meet a lot of divorced women with kids. It may because I am divorced with kids myself, and that’s who I match with. A lot of the ones who don’t have kids, want to have them soon. FWIW a lot of them at that age have middle school/high school age kids which are pretty low maintenance, and they haven’t been pushy about getting involved with each other’s kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 10:47 PM
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50-year-old alcoholic high school dropout who smoked cigarettes and had four kids ….landed a 30-year-old muscular intelligent man I have no way of knowing if this is actually real, that doesn’t really matter, but the fact you think this is some sort of trend, or the norm that most people experience is a pretty smooth brain take. Most “muscular intelligent men” in their 30’s don’t pine for what sounds like Mac’s mom from Always Sunny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:46 PM
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I disagree with the general tone that is forming in this thread. Sex is awesome. It is fun, you form connections through it, and yes it is an ego boost. It should be consensual and mutually beneficial. It is worth trying to have sex if you aren’t, and expending some effort on that (assuming it’s something you want). I dont think its “what’s missing in your life” or the key to happiness, but I also think it will improve peoples lives, their mood, and the connections they make. Telling people it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:31 AM
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More and more often I am seeing the opposite: men having sex with a woman, assuming there will be a relationship, and then getting his heart broken when he realizes she was just using him I’d like to believe this, but the vast vast majority of times I see someone talking about withholding sex, securing commitment before sex, or doing the old “I assumed we were exclusive but I just found out we aren’t” it’s almost 100% always women who are concerned about being used by men. I’m not saying it’s ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:30 PM
3

Yeah pretty much agree with this. I am a divorced man in my 30’s with kids, in the suburbs, and haven’t experienced the “desert” of women described by the men here. I feel that I can reliably get conversations and dates going with looks-matched women my age. I believe a lot of men are just lazy with their profile, or have shit aesthetics, but nobody will hear it. There’s nothing special about me I’m not 6ft, I’m average looking, not rich, not fat but certainly not jacked, I have kids, I’m a litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:31 PM
3

Jealous people will never admit to being jealous. They know that jealousy is a character flaw which will get your position immediately discarded, it’s a no-brainer to deny it. Just like how everyone postures to be logical, pragmatic decision-makers, even though the world of love and dating is anything but. I’m sure there are some older women out there who just want to guide their younger, hotter, more desirable counterparts in a healthy direction (lol), but they are utterly indistinguishable fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:09 PM
3

I would like a version of this subreddit without angsty sex starved perma-loners whining about how they will never touch a woman. But also we’re on Reddit so idk if that’s doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:53 AM
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Could those charts be any shittier? (No)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:06 AM
2

A fwb is a guy friendzoning a girl which is what is done to Abby. 🤔 never thought about it this way but that is pretty much the way it usually plays out from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:39 PM
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If I was Jack, I’d be fine with this arrangement if I was sleeping with her too in the non-exclusive phase. It seems like she isn’t super attracted to Jack if she’s sleeping with another guy and not him. I’m sure people have their reasons for doing this sort of thing, but I want some kind of serious, “can’t-ignore” attraction at the beginning of a relationship, that can’t be replaced by random dick. Swapping genders, if I was seriously attracted to some woman I was seeing, I wouldn’t want to was…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:34 PM
2

People will flip out but I honestly haven’t found it that bad for men, at least compared to other subreddits or resources. Most resources put women on a pedestal and encourage men to be spineless simps with no backbone who become do-nothing BFs and husbands. The exact kind who get divorced “out of nowhere” when their wives were bored and unsatisfied the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:32 AM
3

they’re oblivious to their own preferences and they genuinely believe they don’t care about those things when they actually do. Yes I was going to post something similar to this. I don’t believe it’s a coordinated ruse by women to lie about their preferences; I think they actually believe it, and there is no social will to have a real conversation about it, so we just let them go. Side theory I think this is why you see a lot of marriages falling apart “over domestic responsibilities.” Those wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:41 AM
3

I don’t know why it’s accepted everywhere else in the world that age treats women more harshly, but then I have to come on PPD and hear all of these contrived arguments and edge cases and exceptions about how men actually age worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:43 AM
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I think the process of vetting a spouse is completely out of whack for most people. I also think that process is unlikely to change due to cultural momentum. Butterflies and sparks are fine for dating, even serious dating, but I think if you’re going to get married, you need to tear down the drywall and really figure out what’s beneath. Lots of people are too afraid of their own skeletons to demand to see their potential spouse’s. And others will just lie about their own, in self destructive fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:35 AM
3

Was she possessed by zuul when she said this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:25 PM
2

"get good at oral", "sex isn't just PIV" Actually since it’s a woman, she could do anal too. Just want to point that out in case it’s helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:54 PM
3

I have absolutely no luck on Tinder. I do fine on the other two.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:11 PM
1

What about BJ
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 07:25 PM
1

Basically yes. You can’t reason or negotiate with baggage. Why would I want to be in a relationship with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:52 PM
3

Most of the women I talk to, you wouldn’t suspect this, but the pain of labor isn’t really their biggest concern with pregnancy. A bigger issue, what they actually talk about all the time, is the aftermath on their bodies, like skin stretching or scars or their sex organs (I’m just relaying what I hear okay). You would think if the pain was the biggest factor, they’d all talk about it more often. Or they’d be like “I want another but the labor will be too painful” which like I said, is not what …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:18 PM
2

It is like the straight-laced A-student version of this subreddit (this sub is like the hyperactive kid with a learning disorder)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:03 PM
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She didn’t just “exist,” she was pretty hot/desirable in her photo (linked in OP). I doubt that every woman in existence could get that kind of response rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:48 PM
1

Most people would say yes but I actually don’t think mine has changed. I’m a late 30’s divorced man, have been dating for the past year. I’ve always primarily wanted to enhance each other’s lives and share fun experiences together. That includes inspiration, motivation, companionship, and help facing setbacks. But importantly we have our own individual lives as well. In contrast I’m not interested in managing someone else’s anxieties, financially supporting someone with no goals, or cultivating …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:34 PM
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Agreed 100%. In 2022, dating inside your local/professional circles damages your reputation socially and professionally. People can’t handle relationship gossip without trying to cancel or exile somebody. Secondly, it’s inefficient. On one hand you have apps full of people signaling their availability and interest in dating. On the other you have people just looking to enjoy social interaction with friends, not here to date someone, self conscious about disturbing the friend group or appearing p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:07 PM
1

Bezos’s new girl is hotter and fitter than 99% of women her age, and that’s just first impressions of her looks alone. Somehow I have to imagine she isn’t a jaded cranky wine mom either. Yeah let’s use her as an example of what average people can expect in their 40’s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:51 PM
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Society does not accept age gap relationships (10+ years)- its socially embarrassing dating someone much older because family will judge, random people on the street will judge I would argue this is the only reason women date closer to their own age. The rest doesn’t matter at all. I’m not saying it should or shouldn’t change, just saying it’s basically just a social effect, not any kind of calculated methodical decision. I would also argue a LOT (not all) of that is women-on-women social pressu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:30 PM
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I do fine on OLD and definitely agree with all of this. I do feel like a lot of guys struggle with stuff like dressing nice, taking good photos, creating an interesting profile. Like…being bold yet vulnerable. Putting yourself out there and exposing yourself to potential criticism, and being confident about it. And fine-tuning it as you go. I think a huge part of the game happens before you ever meet. People try to bypass that part entirely with bad photos, lazy style, lazy bio, thinking they’ll…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:50 PM
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Looking at the people I know, I would agree that the past doesn’t seem to matter, looking at some of the people who really went wild in college, and them posting their family photos now…it’s crazy to think about. I think men care about her past if she acted out within their social circle, or if it was bad enough that it was very publicly known. A few people I can remember with a ”wild” past married someone outside the group 😬 I wouldn’t say the perpetually single people are necessarily unattract…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:03 AM
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People are predictably shitting on this idea as I expected. I can offer my own experience as a divorced late 30’s man with kids. I have a stable lifestyle and am not overweight or bald. I feel like I have more options than I ever did in my life. I’ve had more variety and quality of sex partners than college. Not ONS, but short flings or relationships mostly. Maybe I could do more ONS or LTR…it may be due to the vibe I put out. I’ve had to dump or ghost more women than at any other stage in my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:41 PM
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if she takes care of herself and doesn’t have kids Lol, every time this conversation comes up, people always assure themselves that older women are doing fine, and include this absolutely massive caveat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:28 PM
2

This is the only way I cook anything. If I can’t make a shit ton of something and then freeze 5 more servings of it to eat later, it isn’t worth the effort of cleaning all the dishes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:45 AM
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What percentage of guys could drastically improve their dating life in a few weeks? By that I mostly mean mostly better marketing: improving their wardrobe, better OLD photos/profile, better haircut, maybe a hobby that they engage with 1x a month like hiking or something. Maybe some light coaching on how to appear fun and interesting, as opposed to boring and cynical. Beyond that you’re talking more serious life changes like weight loss, plastic surgery, fitness changes, or mental health/persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:33 AM
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Typical insecure jealousy. She probably wants him (and possibly the kids) all to herself. If some woman had a spite lunch with her ex bf i would drop her ass so hard. Not only because it’s insulting but because it’s completely idiotic problem solving skills. You do that instead of pressing the issue with me? Jesus christ. I could add some nuance to this but you asked for spicy takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:31 AM
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they shouldn't have to seduce their wives? Anyone who says this has never been with a low libido person. You cannot seduce them. You can do all the sweet and thoughtful things that people tell you to do, be attentive and proactive with them, but you might as well be “seducing” a brick wall. Unless that person WANTS to be sexually available, it will not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:13 AM
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Basically, sex is a major priority for husband. I enjoy it but it is not a priority. He gives the look and I pretend not to see. I’ve been there before (happily divorced now). If there’s a libido mismatch, you just can’t win. Anything you’d do, paying extra attention to her is annoying, giving “the look” is annoying, even if he watched movies with her every night she’d be annoyed. She isn’t interested in sex, has acknowledged years of “intimacy issues.” She’s complaining that he’s sulking around…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:57 AM
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If the first time I sleep with a guy he can’t get it up I’m gonna assume he’s just not into me. This is at least a realistic take on it. I recently found another post on this topic. Too many times people will try telling guys “it’s no big deal” and “nobody cares” but people do care. If you have a problem with it, I think you need to get it taken care of immediately, or get some medication, because women will absolutely judge you for it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:00 PM
1

Helmüt
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:08 AM
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German Chäd
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:25 AM
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Actually yes he’s a psychologist so technically he prescribes feels instead of benzos
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:10 PM
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I think Peterson came from the world of psychiatry where prescription drugs are more normal and maybe even advised by his colleagues. Although I doubt he’s ever use them again after that experience. Lol about Tate probably banging his daughter though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:00 PM
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Take it from an idiot that has been burned several times: if you can’t see her body, you already know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:16 AM
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Ha! This is great
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:59 PM
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Yes, I have no idea the guy’s actual situation, but if you look up this problem online, everyone will tell you that you absolutely definitely have death-gripped yourself from porn use, so it’s no surprise he has self diagnosed as such. But yes it was framed as a porn overuse issue which affects the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:17 PM
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Interesting but common tone in this thread about male ED/inability to reach orgasm. Many women openly admitting they are turned off/feel inadequate when the man cannot maintain arousal or reach orgasm. Male inability to maintain arousal is always his fault for being a deathgripped, pornsick slob. The most common advice is to exert puritan-like control over your sexual urges. No masturbation, no porn, ever. If your girl leaves you and you have no other sexual release available (because you gave u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:40 PM
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I definitely see this a lot in other couples. I don’t know that these women intentionally seek out passive men, but I think their type-a personality coexists with a lot of anxiety and insecurity. The insecurity gets results: it motivates you, and pushes you to do more, but also makes it impossible to delegate or defer responsibilities to someone else. It’s like they can’t get along with someone who has their own thoughts and opinions, where they aren’t “in control” of everything. They’ll just cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:00 AM
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Yes most people will advise you based on how it affects THEM. If they are turned off by someone wallowing in despair, they will try to make their bad feelings go away by advising you to get therapy, rather than address the actual problem you asked about. One time I always see this come up, if people ask how to casual date, the most common phrase is “just tell her.” Like no shit tell her. I feel like these guys are asking for more specifics, like decorum and how to put the vibe out, but the advis…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:22 PM
8

Sorry the chip reader took too long and I am uncomfortable with awkward silences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:18 PM
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If a girl licks my balls at the beginning of a hookup, it really sets the tone. I’ve never had a boring hookup where that happened early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:58 PM
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Definitely, and a lot of it is people play-acting as the perfect, photogenic couple that does sweet and spontaneous things for each other (which often involve a sponsored product). People should do nice things for each other but you just can’t keep up with these people and their new ideas. There are so many instagram and Tik tok personalities like this. It’s sold as reality and people don’t realize it’s an act that’s designed to produce money for the influencer. Not to sound pseudo-sciencey but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:32 PM
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I think you’d find a decent amount of women that would be down for it at first. They’d get praise for being unconventional (but in a safe way) and also could subtly brag about being a girlboss. I would be very concerned if they could hold it up long term. Eventually it might wear them down watching everyone else’s husband earn big bucks, and, knowing how relationships work, it would happen entirely inside her head, and you’d have no knowledge it was happening until it was too late. Then when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:38 AM
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I know it’s almost a stereotype but any woman that can bake, especially if she bakes me something is like 😍. Pretty much any woman could trap me with this. I’m not a really traditional guy either, I don’t know where this is coming from. I just think it’s really thoughtful I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:18 PM
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she was physically attracted to him until he did something or she learned something Yes people have always lost attraction after getting to know someone better. But “the ick” is always spoken in terms of some insignificant or innocent action. If she learned he smokes cigarettes, is an alcoholic, smells weird, that’s just called a turn off. “The ick” is always brought up specifically when it’s an inane or insignificant action (aside from the haircut example): TikTok users have shared the myriad o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:44 PM
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“The ick” is usually discussed as women losing attraction for a man. I think it took off as a concept because it assigns blame to the man for “causing” the loss of attraction. In actuality, loss of attraction is often entirely inside the woman’s purview. Bottom line she just isn’t that attracted to him. Conversely when she is attracted, he can do all sorts of crude or unusual stuff and it won’t matter. This is totally fair, but it makes women feel like they aren’t nice people for choosing to rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:06 PM
2

I am 5’10” and at least match most women’s height that I meet. I’ve heard a few times “oh this is nice I could wear heels and not be taller than you” which makes me think those things are a factor for women. I never bring up height, it’s always them bringing it up. Oddly, as a man, it feels wrong to compare a woman’s appearance to other women on a first date. But a lot of them feel comfortable comparing my height to other men. Some shorter women have told me they don’t care about height, but als…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:38 PM
2

I’ve mentioned it on second or third dates, not necessarily to woo anyone, but because it was relevant to what we were talking about, and also some people find it interesting. I usually don’t mention it until they’ve clearly volunteered that they are done with new babies. If they didn’t say that, or if they sound like baby fence sitters, then I probably wouldn’t bring it up - you don’t need to - but generally I don’t pursue those kind of people anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:07 AM
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I’m talking about ignoring mental health issues or red flag behavior, or things you find very unattractive that you think you’ll get over. Like stuff you know about now. Obviously not future things you have no clue about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:01 AM
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Ignoring things you shouldn’t have ignored. Unless you have a clear plan that you are moving towards, there should be no “we’ll figure it out” or “I’ll live with that.” Lots of divorced people may not have expected to be divorced, but they were not surprised at what led to the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:37 AM
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In the 30+ age bracket, the women looking to settle are often the ones who want a baby like yesterday. You can tell who they are because they’ve got it in their bio or they bring it up early in conversation. I made my bio a little more obvious that I don’t want any new kids and now I typically meet women who have been divorced and aren’t desperate to rush into something again, which I actually prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:02 AM
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When I encounter women in real life, they aren’t talking the kind of hardball talk you see here. They aren’t looking at men as dicks with a body attached to them, that you can pluck off a shelf whenever you need one. They aren’t looking at life like a math equation, I make greater than X dollars therefore I don’t require a man for financial support. Or babies cost money, money good babies bad. They want a man in their life that they are attracted to, that they can depend on. They want the whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:22 AM
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6 feet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:28 PM
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Well bumble seems to ignore every single one of my filters so maybe it doesn’t actually matter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:09 AM
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They reveal their fangs which are used to extract beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:43 PM
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I do think old fashioned fear of rejection is a big part as well. Plus I don’t think we do a good job preparing kids for rejection. Even worse, as I said, we’ve turned rejection from a bad experience into a potential apocalypse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:20 PM
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I think there is increased pressure in general for people to be passive and docile. Hive mind based social media is a big part of this. Your innocent interactions can be blown up into a national scandal. Or maybe your slightly less innocent actions, which we’ve all had, but act like we are saints when in the angry mob. Even having something blow up in your local social circle is a disaster. Sex and relationships are all about putting yourself out there, “bothering” people, being proactive and ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:44 PM
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Exactly. If we cant afford a safe home, a non shitty car, and basic necessities, I don’t care what anyone tries to tell me, my value as a man starts dropping. That includes time money and maintenance of everything. Swapping those duties out for domestic help isn’t fooling anyone. Women will try to say they don’t care about material things then cite them when leaving their “loser ex.” So you pick and choose where to spend your energy and where to conserve it, sometimes dusting the floorboards doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:10 PM
2

Princess Fiona w/ lord Farquad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:35 AM
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Right. So you either tell people to improve themself (“to get a partner that I would want“) or you tell them they will probably be alone no matter what they try. I am not talking about edge cases or outliers. This is about what you choose to tell the generic average man who feels he can’t find someone in his current state. Can he improve himself or not. No 100% ironclad guarantee, but what can reasonably be expected. i don’t see consensus on that, whenever this topic comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:57 PM
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Right so you’re choosing “the world is fair, you just need to improve yourself”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:03 PM
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They simply don't believe that an acknowledgement of the inequality is all these men are after. I do think this is why you start see lockstep agreement on something, but a lot of shifting, morphing justifications underneath. In this case you often see vacillations between “the world is fair, you just need to improve yourself” and “the world is unfair, deal with it🤷‍♂️.” Obviously both can’t be true. One of those must be wrong. But when you are more concerned with the final outcome - in this case…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:42 PM
4

Because all women get wet for needy simps
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:15 PM
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I think a lot of women self select themselves out of the market. They just aren’t as desirable as before and they probably know it on some level. It’s less embarrassing to sit out then to actually try and fail pathetically. People do this all the time in other venues. Most unathletic people wont enter 5Ks or marathons, regular people won’t audition to be a model, a lot of people don’t apply to college because they think they aren’t smart enough. Why subject yourself to the meat market of dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:50 AM
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I just went on a date kind of like this, except I was bored and decided to just talk to her for a couple of hours anyway, then just never texted her afterwards. So weird, I wish I could get inside people’s heads like….what are you expecting to happen here, on this DATE? Why did you go through all this effort to be here? Don’t you think you would have been better off doing something less time-wastey?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:13 PM
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Women are generally more indirect at expressing their needs, and more annoyed when forced to do so directly. If you really force them to express their needs, they might finally do it, but it will be at the cost of resentment. When women are willing to admit to this, they’ll say it’s because they fear for their safety, or cultural expectations force them to be deferential. So of course they HAVE to do it. When they aren’t willing to admit this, they try to claim that men and women avoid responsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:47 PM
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I was a super light weight male for most of high school and college. Mostly just a poor all-carbs diet, no physical activity. I did observe once I put on just a little muscle, enough to look like a normal/slightly fit person, I stopped getting fucked with by random people in social situations. It seemed like random people would always start shit with me when i weighed like 140 lbs with tiny arms and a gaunt face. Probably because I looked light a slight breeze could knock me on my ass, so why no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:54 PM
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Side question would you expect me to unsheathe my katana blade
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:50 PM
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Of course it would work. If it didn’t work, why are women everywhere wasting millions on snake oil cosmetic products? Because they want to look young to attract men. Even if they aren’t young. Why? Because it works. Lol @ the femcels claiming men only want impressionable young women to manipulate. Sorry, the free market says otherwise. If it didn’t work, why are older women paying their hard earned money to look young?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:13 AM
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Did the yellow line really need to be that long bro
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:41 AM
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I disagree that it’s some logical calculus about pregnancy. It would be a reasonable concern, but people are anything but reasonable, especially with sex and relationships. I think women are more neurotic and therefore more sensitive to social pressure. The type of man they are seen with is a big indication of their social standing. They are under a lot of pressure to be seen with desirable men. People respond to that in all different ways, but it often results in more “sitting out” or just choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:31 PM
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I really think the average married couple has very little sex, like MAYBE once a month, usually less. I know everyone on here is a sex god, relax I’m not talking about you. I’m talking the average out-of-shape couple with kids and a house and jobs. He watches football with miller lite and a jersey on, she watches procedural crime dramas every evening. They bicker in front of guests. They get dinner at Texas Roadhouse. They do no physical activity ever. They always wear frumpy dad/mom clothes. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:43 PM
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I was going to make a longer post about this. I think it’s a smokescreen/scapegoat for already dissatisfied women. When she’s attracted, you can’t do anything wrong. When she’s not attracted, you can’t do anything right. Rather than come to terms with their lack of attraction, they pick on men for some inane domestic housekeeping stuff, because it’s less shameful/embarrassing for them. Poor men think they’re being given helpful advice, only to be sent on a fool’s errand scrubbing toilets and fol…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:36 PM
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It’s just a little bit of eugenics so I can get some ass
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:08 PM
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I feel like you can’t have that much sexual energy if you never do it. I know someone in a relationship can get it when they want it, in theory, but there isn’t some situation where you got horny and your partner isn't around? What do you do then? Ignore it? If so, too low energy. And if you’re single and just never do it? What the hell are you even doing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:22 AM
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I look so god damn ass good in a suit. It’s a shame there’s no reason to ever wear one, unless someone I know gets married, or I go to court, or at my own funeral
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:06 PM
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Enough projection to run an IMAX
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:59 PM
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in relation to a solvable issue, maybe I can help them feel heard or feel better about their situation, but it will come at the cost of pissing myself off. YES this is an under appreciated part of this whole adage about “feeling heard.” It’s dumping your emotional garbage onto someone else, like someone leaving trash on your lawn every day. Once or twice I can just pick it up myself, but the same trash inconsiderately dropped every day is aggravating and anyone’s natural reaction is to stop the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:27 PM
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39 and was going to post something but this has been almost exactly my experience. My biggest complaint is non-overweight women are hard to come by. I make it as clear as possible in my bio/pics that I am pretty active and fitness is important to me, and even then a lot of my likes are clearly living incompatible lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:19 PM
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I don’t know that the good ones get in relationships quickly. That assumes we have an efficient market. Right now a big portion of dating is how you sell yourself online: photos, writing a bio, texting. Some otherwise competent people just suck at that. Then there’s all kinds of trends and influences that push peoples opinion, in a way that’s not necessarily efficient for relationships. And a LOT of relationships fail, dumping people back on the market at all different times. You need two good p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:58 PM
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If she didn’t do it before, then suddenly started, get ready boys she’s about to be single
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:47 PM
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