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Ehhhh not all rapists are psychopaths, which is a clinical term. Like not arguing, just pointing out that not everyone who engages in sexual assault is a psycho/sociopath (the same thing btw), just like not everyone who suffers from psychopathy is a sexual abuser.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/25 04:37 PM
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I mean this man, this is some real misogyny. Like all these scenarios are just in your head. Additionally, like are you the same person you were at 15? You continue to not see women as real people and are so focused on sex. Like has someone broke up or rejected you in the past few days? Cos this is some real bitter energy, mad at scenarios you've just imagined.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/25 11:26 AM
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Yeah I don't get it either. I am trying to be nice in my rebuttals and pointing out the flaws in their reasoning but.....
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 04:34 PM
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Fair enough, I do say it as an autistic person. Unfortunately many groups like the blackpill/incels where these ideas first gestate are over represented with autistic folks like myself and we do love some hard and fast rules that just work, backed up with numbers. I didn't mean it as a pejorative though I see now it might have come across as such. Apologies :)
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 04:33 PM
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Yeah, this is the issue. The term arose to describe a very real issue felt largely by the disabled community, however was hijacked over the years to become the word we see now. I do however think it is used waaaay to liberally by folks nowadays, especially those against incels. Not every misogynist is an incel and calling them that doesn't help either side.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 03:30 PM
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No no no, don't move the goalposts there pal, you literally sent me terrible studies first, then went back to get some more. Now before you move on, I want to talk about why you just blindly believed said studies. Why didn't you interrogate them at all? I found that information around them in like 10 mins, and you believed they justified what you said. So why didn't you look at those studies before? I will review and provide you feedback on the paper you just sent in a little while, I have my ow…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 03:06 PM
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Okay so the first one purely looks at Tinder, in US and is having economic models applied to it rather than sociological. But the most glaring issue, highlighted by the author themselves is that it covers 17 women. Seventeen. SEVENTEEN. You are basing a "fact" on 17 women. That's all, you have generalised something to 4 billion people from a sample size of 17. Whether it sounds like its true or not, does that seem like a sensible thing? If I interviewed 17 men and then came out with a bunch of s…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 02:42 PM
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I'm telling you that's not how science works. Lets start at the beginning then, where does that original number come from? What is the direct study for that? And fine, you don't want to challenge your beliefs, you want to have the argument explained to you, we'll do that. Also I'm telling you that you can't say its NOT coincidence without significant amounts of information. Thats science. If you take 10 women, all taken from outside clubs on a friday night and poll their ideal man, if you then s…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 11:10 AM
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These are all assumptions you are making. You are presenting things as facts when they are inferences you've made (or you've been told to make). I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you need more information to draw these conclusions and that the idea its because of wage discrepancies is currently just as likely given the information provided. Please provide said detailed stats broken down if that's the case to prove your stats, but you haven't done that, you've presented one set and entirely…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 11:05 AM
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Mate just to throw out here that YOU are the one throwing out stats with no context and then making assumptions about them. YOU said 7% college educated women date men who earn less than them. That's the stat you have, then you made the assumption that is because women want men with money. But this is what I mean about your broscience not being real science. You can't derive that from the stat, and without more information about the population being studied (area, sample size, ages, etc) anythin…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/25 07:07 PM
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What are the hard and fast stats about men? You've reached for these numbers so easily and applied generalisations to women but not taken on board that you aren't doing this about men. You see yourself as an individual but are seeing women as a group. Spitting out autism level numbers isn't science or facts. People are individuals and sex and gender only make up one part of that, but here you are reducing around 4 billion people to what their gender is. Protip for the future, you can with near 1…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/25 06:58 PM
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Just to start the conversation here, do you believe all men act in exactly the same way? Are all men purely drawn to looks with a desire for traditional femininity in women? Do all men simply strive to be alphas? Are men capable of having their own goals, thoughts and beliefs? The biggest (imo) mistake redpill makes is to homogenize women but individualise men. Even in this opening post you reduce women to a general state whilst expressing your own individualism. I'm not criticising btw, you're …
/r/ExRedPill23/02/25 12:55 PM
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It's always been grifters... all the way down
/r/ExRedPill13/01/25 11:12 AM
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See, I would still disagree. Even things like the formation and the alteration of the incel movement (which predates TRP) showed that the male loneliness epidemic was there and festering away. Personally, I think this is a situation of us recognising male loneliness more (and loneliness in general) more than a direct result of TRP causing or having a significant hand in male loneliness. On the flip side I think one of the biggest dangers of TRP is that it denies this extensive history of male lo…
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 04:48 PM
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Lets break this down: Well my view is that most people don’t have it so good in life in general so I assume most people don’t have a good relationship with their parents or a healthy attachment style. That's you imposing your own beliefs and upbringing onto others and extrapolating from there. You have no evidence for this. Not everyone has your experiences. I’m not a big data person especially when it comes to these types of things. That’s just my opinion I don’t really care if it contradicts t…
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 11:51 AM
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They are talking about the unequal distribution of work in a relationship. i.e. woman works at home and does all the childcare etc, while the man comes home and does nothing. Or the man cheats and the woman stays. Not classic physical abuse but an abusive relationship none the less. But those are very common thoughts and have definitely led to the current whining from a lot of modern men who suddenly find that their partner won't also be their mother. also a lot of men will excuse abuse of a wom…
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 11:33 AM
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Eeeeeeh I actually think the male loneliness epidemic is a lot more long standing than things like TRP, but only is now being weaponised by groups like TRP. I'm talking like hundreds of years but everyone's loneliness is reaching a pinnacle now.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 11:29 AM
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See there's a fundamental crux in your argument, that exists in all red pill/ black pill ones. You state that your inability to get a sex is because of your genes, there is a cast iron assertion there. But then you want arguments from the blue pill that make you feel better about yourself, like you claim red and black pill do. So that cast iron assertion isn't based on facts, it is an inherently emotional argument, like all red/ black pill ones, that brings you comfort. The blue pill isn't about…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/24 01:33 PM
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I mean you realise you're still just orbiting this woman right, like the glow up, the exercise, hell other women, is all about her. And that means the problem is still there. It sounds like you're encountering legit issues some men, especially non white men face. But rather than face those and find solutions you've made an entire story that revolves around one woman. You're not moving on, you're just getting more pathetic. It sounds like you've gone from NiceGuyTM to red piller, and constantly e…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/24 09:27 PM
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If a woman set that out as conditions to date her I wouldn't date her. The fact I am in a relationship means that not all women (or any? I'm sure a tiny percent are but thats simply probability) are like that. ​ Protip women are all individuals just like men. The moment you start making sweeping statements that involve all members of X group acting in exactly the same way it means you've gone too far into nonsense territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:56 PM
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redpill, ex repill, blue pill, black pill, whatever it is you believe, I guarantee you'll have an easier life if you pull that gigantic head out of your arse.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/23 05:14 AM
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I mean anyone with any sense knows that pretty much 99% of evo psych is nonsense. Hell even the best people working in evo psych like Jared Diamond don't call it such because of its nonsensical reputation. Red pill or ex redpill, there's a common truth that if someone evokes evo psych there's pretty much 100% chance they don't have a fucking clue what they're on about.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/23 02:07 AM
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"Obviously women aren't hivemind." is not compatible with: "Feminine women are more attracted to masculine men." There are feminine women who just want a skinny twink and muscley men who want a fellow weight lifter. You can't start this nonsensical generalising the breath after accepting women are individuals.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/23 04:20 PM
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Its amazing how much spitting facts about trans people riles up folks. I made that comment 2 years ago and you're responding? There's defoe hysteria about trans people but it ain't from trans folks.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/23 01:22 PM
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Just to clarify, redpill is different from incel
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 03:07 PM
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Right, but his scope is massively reduced. Trump still posts on truth but its less impactful than being on twitter
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 04:35 PM
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The thing is de platforming works, whereas engaging in these claims just adds justification to them, especially when if you enter into a debate with them they will say they won regardless of the outcome
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 08:30 AM
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So you avoid answering questions about why you do this. Is it something that upsets you to think about? Seems very estrogen filled.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/22 10:12 PM
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So what is it that makes you want to "coldly" engage with me? Does it make you feel more sure in your beliefs to argue with internet strangers?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/22 01:06 PM
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Okay, but you're getting pretty hearted now, like an "estrogen filled woman" from a comment quite some time ago. Do you feel like you have a lot of estrogen as well or is it masculine to dredge up old threads to argue on, safe in the knowledge no one other than the op is hoping to chime in?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/22 12:54 PM
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Alright babes, keep commenting on posts from over a year ago and prove your right by citing "tHOuSaNdS 0f D0cuMeNTs (EiDuNCe]". Like honestly, why does my comment from a year ago engage such a reaction from you?
/r/ExRedPill08/02/22 12:05 PM
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There are thousands of documents "(evidence)" that the world is flat, aliens abduct people, or an election was stolen. That's not what evidence in a scientific sense actually means and your really poor attempt at making it so only serves to show how desperate you are. Also replying to a post from a year ago is ball slappingly hilarious mate. Like if one of us is embarrassing ourselves here, it ain't me.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/22 11:50 AM
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Imagine saying science and empirical evidence is wrong and then saying someone else has a problem with ego and pride.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/22 08:29 AM
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See this is where focusing on the idea that it's easier to date being white, as posted earlier, can get you. Yes there are differences but when you start to form a pseudo science pyramid with hard and fast rules that you can then use to incorrectly understand the world, you end up in a huge mess
/r/ExRedPill05/02/22 11:05 AM
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This is actually one thing where the incels have an accurate phrase "JBW", or "Just Be White". Whilst I don't think its a hard and fast rule, white folks in the West are the "norm" for want of a better word, and so are less bogged down in stereotypes, they are more likely to be successful (through no talent of ourselves) and stereotypical beauty standards will be a reflection of attractive white guys more than anyone else. Now this is changing and for example we see more examples of attractive g…
/r/ExRedPill04/02/22 02:42 PM
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I agree, that's some crazy cope to think good housekeeping is scientific literature in an attempt to justify crazy beliefs. BRB going to get a copy o the Fortean Times to prove Ghosts exist and Michael Jackson isn't dead.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:21 PM
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See the issue is I work in the psychology field and read papers and books. You've searched for an article to confirm your POV and are using good housekeeping as if it's the same as real research. This is your problem, do you understand the issue between media and scientific reporting? I understand if that's your confusion and where your misconceptions come from and I can helpfully educate if you want :)
/r/ExRedPill29/01/22 07:43 PM
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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha yeah alright mate. I think I'll listen to the actual scientific community on this one bbz
/r/ExRedPill29/01/22 12:04 PM
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Despite the writers and directors wanting to pt a trans person in the film at the time to emphasise this. Ofc hun. With naivety like that I've got some magic beans to sell you.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/22 07:49 PM
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I mean if you're response to being presented evidence is to say you won't look at it, then you've not really got an argument here have you? You've got a belief so flimsy you won't challenge it
/r/ExRedPill01/01/22 07:32 PM
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this article explains it pretty well They were "eggs", I.e. the time prior to transition. They wanted to include trans characters in the film. The evidence is clearly there, you not being willing to accept reality and keep swallowing those blue pills doesn't change that. The studio literally said no to the trans character. You know startlingly little about trans folks for a fan of the matrix, you don't need an all trans cast for a film to be aboot being trans, nor do you need to be trans to enjo…
/r/ExRedPill01/01/22 07:24 PM
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Both directors and writers came out as trans a few years after the movie came out and both said it was aboot being trans. If you want to argue against that because of your own biases then fine, but you're literally arguing against the creators aboot their own work. That's only an argument you win in your head. You even acknowledge that they couldn't have raised this at the time the film was released. I'm not talking about the new one which I also feel is a cash grab, just it was either happening…
/r/ExRedPill01/01/22 06:33 PM
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One word: allegorical. Another point is that this is from the directors/ writers themselves, not "millennial". Also I think you should recheck the years millennial covers. Finally do a quick check on the red pill subreddit. r/confindentlyincorrect all over this post
/r/ExRedPill01/01/22 02:03 PM
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Shockingly trans folks tend to think about the issue for many years. Suggest you look into the actual directors quotes and not base ideas of what you just find in the ether.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/21 11:05 PM
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Oh summer child. I suggest you have a look at what the writers and directors of the matrix have said. If you don't listen to the story from the horses mouth you're just gonna make an ass out of yourself
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 10:16 AM
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I'm passionate in part because I used to believe this exact same thing. Word for word. But the thing that changed was me, not other people. You can't seek validation from others, if you do that you'll never achieve it and end up in vicious cycles. Validation and self care have to come from you. You still want someone else to shatter your beliefs but that's not possible. Imagine the scenario someone told you you weren't ugly. You say in your head they don't mean it. Because you haven't tackled th…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 04:16 PM
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Honestly mate it's a bit like banging our heads against a brick wall. You are determined to be sad. And like it's understandable, "I miss the comfort in being sad" is a relatable lyric for a reason, but your reasoning is far more illogical than you realise. You don't know what happens in other peoples heads for a start, and you also seem completely unaware of how your psychological projections inform that image.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 03:44 PM
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Why do you not give women the same agency you give men? Men's tastes are all over but women's aren't, based on what? One subreddit isn't an answer and that question is the crux of your problem. You deny women the agency to have personal choice, instead telling them what they find attractive, deeming yourself not to be it and then telling them again they find you unattractive. You're not recognising women as fully developed people in the same way you recognise men as
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 02:51 PM
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You generalised all women as the same. Of course that's a you problem, if you can't accept that then you're not going to get very far. People are people and people are all inherently different based on experiences. If you decide that half the population, specifically the half you would like a romantic relationship with, are all the same, with the same wants and desires, then you're a relationship is near impossible. Women didn't tell you they were a hive mind, nor do they act as the borg in real…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 01:24 PM
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You're only gaslighting yourself. Once again you equate socially dominant with something completely different to what she specified. If you would rather listen to men about what women want than women then you're gonna have a bad time. If you're judge all women as the same but regard men as having a wide array of complex emotions, you're gonna have a bad time. What about women who have autism or are naturally shy? Or do they not exist in your world view? If you're intent on being unhappy and blam…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 01:13 PM
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I don't think you read the rest of the comment. The issue here is that you are looking for things to be a failing about. You don't need to shout at someone to not take shit, you merely need to disagree and refuse. I suspect this attitude is hindering you far more than anything else. The poster cites that men who are well rounded and sure of themselves are attractive, you've twisted this to be aggressive and to be something unattainable to yourself. You got downvoted because the post was pointing…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 01:02 PM
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You can be well rounded and have autism, although it may be hindrance in some regards. What areas do you feel you're not well rounded in?
/r/ExRedPill14/12/21 12:19 PM
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I mean aside the creators of it saying that was the case. But what the fuck do they know about a film they made eh?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/21 11:05 PM
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There's an old quote that applies here: Do Not Be So Open-Minded That Your Brains Fall Out, as if you bothered to look into this you'd know that the CGI Blue Marble image and the one captured by Apollo 17 are different images. But facts don't come into it when you're desperate for a sense of superiority.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/21 07:05 PM
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Okay hun, I'm sure. Damn that CGI in 1972 was dope though.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/21 06:03 PM
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That's not even accurate, the Blue Marble photo for a start is just an outright photo. Try harder.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/21 05:18 PM
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Feminist pick holes with flaws in media and its depictions of gender, things wrong with it as you accept. Red pill gets upset because it doesn't align with their ideas of masculinity. The 2 are not the same and it's a form of self imposed helplessness to assert they are. "I can't do anything without offending someone", no shit, but there's offence you can learn from and should care about, eg if a feminist points out problematic character tropes, and offence you shouldn't, eg a racist being upset…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/21 02:36 PM
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Well I mean that's defoe wrong. A white supremacist who compains about a white genocide is very different from a BIPOC person who has a distrust and hatred for white people and the same applies to gender roles. In fact I'd go so far as to say the idea of not seeing inequalities between groups as a determining factor in their beliefs is a form of bigotry itself (colour blindness, etc). But I think it's better to engage with people to try and change minds as opposed to desperately looking for a re…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 04:37 AM
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misogyny and misandry aren't the same at all. They are the same expression, in the same way racism about black folks and racism about white folks is the same idea, but one has institutional backing and the other is a response to being oppressed. The same functions for misogyny and misandry. So no, they aren't the same at all. FDS is taking a real issue, the risk of violence posed by men and high lighting it again. Its not all men but its too damn many and mens egos need to not be so fragile that…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 03:19 AM
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So to be clear you accept this attack was clearly focused on women but you are upset that FDS is highlighting that the media is ignoring the gender based aspect of it? I see why you're backing out here and it's not because I misrepresented you.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 01:01 AM
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I understand you're not arguing this in good faith. The attack was clearly focused on women, but you can't seem to admit that they were the main targets here. It is cold and fucked up to not acknowledge that, like the example of the Pulse nightclub you used, it would be fucked up to ignore the obvious homophobic element there. Are you moving on from comparing FDS to ignoring war crimes now then? Yes the shooter isn't indicative of all men in general, but right now which is more of a problem a wo…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 10:06 PM
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So a female dominated sub that focuses on female issues is highlighting that the killer was specifically targeting females and that's cold and fucked up, but a subreddit supposedly devoted to men's rights not raising an eye brow aboot the increased level of violence Asian men are facing is fine. As I pointed out you are twisting this to excuse trp for sheltering racists and nazis and clearly have an agenda targeting FDS here. Honestly the biggest recruitment ad for FDS is nonsense like you're sp…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 12:42 PM
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If you can't see how going to massage parlours and spas that mainly employ Asian women was a deliberate attack with a focus on women over men then you're choosing not to see the inherent sexism because our doesn't fit your narrative. Also odd how trp aren't even concerned about anyone killed, so they must be the coldest and most fucked up of all by that logic
/r/ExRedPill18/03/21 11:31 AM
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I really like their videos, they have some great psychological insight to films. I'm however unsure which of the 2 is stereotypically handsome though? ​ Edit: wow most of my comment was cut off, odd
/r/ExRedPill06/03/21 11:50 PM
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Well then change man, but don't try and justify hurting someone else. I hope it works out for you guys.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/21 04:38 AM
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Fucking exactly. Like its okay to not be in a place for a monogamous relationship right now, it's not okay to string this woman along and cheat on her. I seriously suggest you have a long hard think aboot what you want and stop trying to justify cheating.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/21 04:36 AM
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Yeah, no, cheating is cheating. You're using a defense mechanism, specifically intellectualisation to make our seem acceptable, it's not. You don't want something long term with get because you clearly don't respect her. If she wad off banging other guys, or I dunno posting aboot wanting to bang other guys how would you feel?
/r/ExRedPill16/02/21 04:32 AM
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Yeah there's so many leaps there, I mean you basically only allow attractiveness by facial phenotype. Like bruh, have you met people? People (notice phrasing there mate, you'd make a lot more sense of you didn't just throw this on women) only cheat because they fond someone more attractive? There are several base level illogical leaps in this. Also you literally wrote a paragraph of women having no agency but being a wierd mix of genetically and financially instinctual. That's not erased because…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 11:45 AM
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See your first error here is assuming that facial attractiveness is in anyway related to "better" genes. If we want to approach this logically, which you're not, the question to ask is what does better facial attractiveness genetically imply? Nothing, it's not a peacocks tail or similar display. Better genes means better survival, but you are substituting that for "more attractive" in order to further fudge your point. So after that the rest kinda falls apart. The rest of this is some weird cuck…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 07:37 AM
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Soooooo that doesn't show shit. Nothing about fucking genetics. This si the problem with red/black pill nonsense, you take real science and twist it until it's no longer reality to fit these skewed world views. To be clear, none of that supports that women are able to pick out "better genes", it means men and women make snap judgements about attractiveness (notice men and women), none of that is related to genes except in the fantasy you are writing in your own head. Jesus christ that's dense, p…
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 06:49 AM
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for sure about TRP/MGTOW faking it. As for RPW I'm not gonna dive down that trying to dox folks and agreed it's all rumour, but also it would hardly be the first time a guy pretended to be a woman online.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 04:15 AM
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TRP already go out of their way to find evidence to justify their beliefs (as opposed to evidence influencing beliefs). Writing their own miserable fanfic to justify their world view is hardly an unimaginable step for them.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/21 02:25 AM
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I think you're deliberately misinterpreting me here. Unconscious desires and thoughts exist in all people and make them unique. If however you try to make sweeping generalisations about them based on gender you are chatting shite.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 10:53 PM
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OCDs a really odd disorder I find. There's lots of folks who have really intrusive thoughts with sexualised OCD, especially about being paedophiles. It's heart breaking to see a man breaking down because he's sure he's abused some children due to his OCD and you're sat there knowing he hasn't. I hope it can give you some answers :)
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 04:48 AM
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Haha! Oddly enough no. I mainly work in in patient psychiatry so with serial killers, rapists, arsonists etc who have been committed to institutions.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 04:44 AM
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Forensic psychiatrist :)
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 04:33 AM
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No worries, the whole thing is more of a guide line and an understanding that there are Deficiency needs and Growth needs, which I do think is a relatively true point. You can't grow if there's a deficiency. But yeah the pyramid has been revised over the years even by Maslow himself, who has stated that it is not an all of nothing phenomenon as he had originally proposed it.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 04:26 AM
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Right but trp is littered in pseudoscientific theory, like "female duel mating stratagy". The middle ground between facts and fantasy isn't facts...... ​ All I'm saying is if you want to come at this from logic and facts, going to trp or similar subreddits which embrace pseudoscience and reject facts isn't "logical". The truth about the shape of the earth isn't somewhere between photos from NASA and drawings by flat earthers.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 04:05 AM
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Ummmmmmm.... I think there's several issues with this. First being a therapist is different from academic psychologist, like are you aiming to help people or do you want to work in academic psychology and look to structuring experiments, different things Secondly the hierarchy isn't massively strict but is a useful tool in understanding there are different needs and different levels to be met. Someone hungry for food is not going to chase dreams of self actualisation, someone who is homeless isn…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 04:00 AM
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It's definitely not a real thing..... it's likely an extrapolation of hypergamy(red pill version) which is already an extrapolation of actual hypergamy. ​ Like think about it for a moment, how tf does a woman know what genes are a "higher" quality..... like my dude, just no. Like what source do you want? Because actual psychologists don't acknowledge such claptrap, if you assume women work on baser instincts and aren't real people with minds just like you then that's an issue that reading some s…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 03:49 AM
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The problem is that the "trophy for all" culture has always been here. It's the same mechanism whereby you fail to recognise your privilege say if you're rich, you think you got there on your own with hard work and grit and ignore all the advantages handed to you, because personally we all want to be the protagonist in our stories, not the NPCs. As such if you have a desire for a "trophy" and to be special, but ultimately your life is n NPC, how attractive is it to be welcomed in to a secret clu…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/21 05:55 PM
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It's because of a desire to be "special". Whether through money, power, expertise, or as most of these groups (see also big Trump fans, etc) special knowledge. They come up with a story that makes them amazing (all for merely reading and believing scree on a page), it's a shortcut to feeling accomplished and fulfilled.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/21 01:58 PM
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What you have there is anecdotes and lack of solid goals. Hence why it feels like its real and lacks evidence. Like it's cool if you don't want to watch porn, it's fine if you don't want to fap, those are personal choices. The issues come from the ideas of semenly magic abilities that come from this. ​ Just to put this in context, you saying it has all these benefits is no more real or likely that someone who says that fapping everyday makes their mind clear and that their friends also all say t…
/r/ExRedPill04/01/21 10:30 AM
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Sorry, going to edit my other post, I was referencing op who had said that the prehistoric genetic data justified this. Will be less snarky. But also op he's broken it down there better than me. Part of the reason I think we're saying to research it I think is because trp relies on taking real science and presenting it in a way that feels right but is a gross misinterpretation. Part of seeing that is understanding what the original data actually says which comes from reading a few of them.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 10:46 AM
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So what's the gender trend? You've literally described hypergamy as a potential activity for any person, which yeah okay? Ebit: am arse, apologies
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 10:42 AM
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1) anti vaxx, racism, covid denial, all opinions that there is an active movement against. Are you saying they are correct or is it only trp that is magic for being criticised? Once again my point aboot you wanting to be special because of secret knowledge stands 2+3) you don't understand science nor the fields you invoke. You also failed to understand me. Htpergamy is a modern theory, using prehistoric data to try and back it up when there it's no test to perform to prove or disprove it is unsc…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 09:37 AM
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For a start, they think that evolutionary psychology is a legit branch of science and use this to justify it. I would urge you to actually research the scientific fields you are invoking as opposed to just what TRP says.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 08:51 AM
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Right so opening up with TRP is quaratined about how people refuse to see it, as if TRP and other groups aren't massive on and off reddit, only feeds into the delusion that this is secret knowledge. Like I gettit, you want to be special, we all do, but that requires effort not just reading some scree on the page. And once again I'll point out that none of the "science" holds up and if your only reason for accepting it is by looking at prehistoric mating then you have veered into evolutionary psy…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 08:43 AM
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Right firstly any group claiming to have " the cold hard truth that very few people choose to see or acknowledge " is bullshit. That's the same nonsense that Qanon is built from, and pnsi schemes, pyramid schemes, cults, etc etc. You like those theories (which have not stood up to scientific rigor, they just sound plausible) and they make you personally feel smarter than other people so they are appealing. That's how this shit works. Humans may be divided along gender lines but we are all people…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 07:29 AM
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I mean if you have to invoke alpha/beta status you know your argument is nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 10:13 PM
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None of this is the truth about MGTOW though, it's a very important point that the "truths" they teach don't need to come with the associated baggage though. I am currently banned from MGTOW permanently for pointing out Poland has the highest male suicide to female in the EU despite its far right politics and traditional Catholicism and that looking after your kids as a man doesn't make you good, it's the bare minimum. So I am excluded from "going my own way" because I refuse to bow down to thei…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/20 09:00 AM
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Well "Men" should, it's not a sign of being a good man to try and support your kids, it's the bare minimum ¬_¬
/r/MGTOW26/12/20 07:56 AM
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If only men would stand by their children more :(
/r/MGTOW26/12/20 07:41 AM
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I mean yes, but it's not helpful to push the idea that a virgin at 24 is something we should mock. I'd also ultimately highlight incel for similar reasons as well. Like I get mocking PUAs but I always worry about the fact PUAs and similar groups exploit gents who are especially vulnerable. /6am night shift incoherent point
/r/ExRedPill26/12/20 06:37 AM
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Woah woah woah there. You may be insecure about how many people your potential partner has slept with, but don't act like all men are so insecure about their sexual prowess (which is where a lot of this stems from ).
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 02:06 PM
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Just to chime in here, not sure if they meant every guy. Plenty of us are secure to not be bothered by it, but I guess it would depend on how religious the men you're dealing with are.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/20 02:05 PM
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So a man told you you were acting inappropriately and you turn round and make this about women? Fuck me, just go join someones OF if you're this obsessed with women. This is about men going their own way, not men getting upset about something and then twisting it so it's a womans fault. You're basically a reverse simp mate. Sytop bringing up women and what they do, if you have a problem with what that guy said you have a problem with that guy, you don't need to start "what abouting" some women. …
/r/MGTOW16/12/20 01:48 PM
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I mean maybe rather than do a whole bunch of "whataboutism", focus on yourself? It doesn't feel like you're going your own way when you encounter a problem and your first response is "Yeah but women!"
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 01:45 PM
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You're aware it was written and directed by trans women right?
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 01:54 PM
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So to clarify: They Live is a great film, with an amazing idea sub par executed. The message of the film is about how the real world of consumerism is just an illusion. Fight Club is a film about how the world of consumerism is just an illusion, among a number of other messages The Matrix is a film about there being a real world and beyond yes, but whilst the other 2 are explicitly anti capitalist in their intent, the Matrix is about gender roles. Now as for which is best, if we are only countin…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 11:56 AM
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I mean that's just according to the writers and directors, but what would they know eh?
/r/ExRedPill14/12/20 11:48 AM
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Okay no, They Live is an even worse depiction than the Matrix and no amount of kicking ass or bubblegum can improve that. Also as I said the Matrix is about being transgender whereas They Live is much closer the fight club in its message being anti capitalist ¬_¬
/r/ExRedPill11/12/20 08:14 AM
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Which once again is basically the exact opposite of the message of the film.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/20 07:33 AM
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I mean I'd argue a lot with this. The Matrix is ultimately a film about the transgender experience, and taking the red pill is about accepting your real gender identity. MRAs have just twisted it because they can't cope with plot devices beyond the surface (see also Fight Club, etc). I like the matrix and the ideas presented, though I would agree that there are a lot better ways of representing it and I'd have liked a far greater depth of lore.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/20 05:40 AM
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12 yo experts in the field of sex are abused children, not folks whose advice to follow. Like you can write a lot of words but ultimately you're just trying to justify morally being a paedophile, and you can't square a circle. Children can't consent to sex and the revelations of 12 yo you have little relevance to the world of sex outside of your paedophilic justifications. Also what can't I spell?
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 10:01 PM
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So you're dipping out? Sounds like you lost this one eh? There's nothing logical about following ideas from children aboot sex, especially when it suspiciously benefits paedophiles. 12 yos don't understand sex and relationships, so logically they're likely to hold incorrect views. But as you seem so emotionally invested in fucking kids I can see why you'd make the argument
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 08:36 PM
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Yeah, saw the age of consent comment after.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 08:20 PM
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Nope. Shockingly 12 yo opinions pin sex should not be carried through to adulthood
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 08:19 PM
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Like a) paedophile and 2) fucking ableist. Like what sort of victim complex do you need to feel oppressed cos you can't fuck kids
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 08:15 PM
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The most problematic issue with age gap relationships is the inherent power balance. Ther most problematic issue you face is tbe way you objectify men and women as appreciable objects with age. People are people and that means they're different.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 08:13 PM
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Step one: am I generalizing women into a homogenous group? If yes, this is incorrect. Etc etc. Women are people too.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 08:09 PM
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This is something I've heard about from colleagues who deal with ex violent offenders in the community. They work really hard to not be aggressive and recieve a lot of flak in the dating world especially if they're honest aboot their past Edit to add they would also fit a physical stereotype.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/20 07:29 PM
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Just to weigh in here that anyone claiming there are only 2 genders has no idea what they are talking about. From a genotype point of view you have XX, Xy, XXy, Xyy, XO at least, phenotypically you have the physical characteristics of all those plus the variations in how much our bodies respond to testosterone (e.g. testosterone insensitive "men" (Xy) look like very attractive women and have no change to outer genitalia (i.e. vagina and clitoris) )
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 01:39 PM
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I mean if I was trans woman and your response to me telling you this was to call me a "male with feminine stereotypes" I'd call you bigoted trash with good reason. Because you are.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/20 01:35 PM
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Hey, fellow male sexual abuse victim who found out too late that TRP offers no help for folks actually abused. I hope you're doing better now and more than happy to talk some more :) I will say I am a feminist myself, but that was probably in no small part to someone on TRP asserting that paedophilia only happens cos of feminism.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/20 04:35 PM
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You've asked me to downvote your post and stop replying, so I mean facts don't care about your feelings, but in this case they defoe lean towards them feelings being hurt. I'm not trying to get under your skin like, I just know the mindset you're in and I get that it's a bitter place and natural to assume people are trying to agitate you, but that's a you problem not a me one :)
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 06:26 PM
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Bruh I was just trying to help. I'm only being civil towards you, apologies if you're not used to that but we ain't so bitter round these parts ;P like if you're into being humiliated that's cool, no ones judging
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 06:16 PM
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Because I what? Support equal rights? Pretty obvious you're misogynistic if someone arguing for equal rights is "misandrist". But not my kink, though is it yours? That would make sense at least
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 06:02 PM
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Anyone using evolutionary biology with any degree of seriousness is almost certainly wrong. You don't claim to follow science and logic seriously then invoke evolutionary biology/psychology
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 05:58 PM
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You're a bitter bro and your post is a good example of the men a lot of us used to be and how we've improved ourselves and our lives :) Less words there for you
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 05:55 PM
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I mean I think it's still a good post. It demonstrates just how whiny the red pill folks are. As you admit yourself it's making you bitter. In terms of wanting to make a change you are still at the precontemplation stage, where you have came into a situation only to reinforce your predetermined narrative and not actually listen to anyone, you were never interested in my opinion. But like even when folks are wrong it can still be educational. I may have been weighed on the scales and found wantin…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 05:40 PM
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Like bruh, we all know that. You've not fooled anyone with this shit, you're a bitter bro and until you actively want to improve yourself there's not much to get from places like this. I hope in time you zone back into some common sense :)
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 05:28 PM
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Mate you never were, you never wanted an open conversation either. You just wanted to continue to pretend with your faux oppression. You seem to want to go into spaces for egalitarianism, be misogynistic, then act surprised when people who want folks to be treated equally don't like your nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 05:20 PM
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Like how do men call women the emotional snowflakes when people like this are wandering about?
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 03:58 PM
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Feminism is about moving toward the abandonment of gender roles. Honestly you have a choice of understanding what feminism actually is or just going off what you believe it is. You can say the sky is red, but you're always going to be wrong. Plenty of folks here are offering you explanations but it seems you don't actually want to engage in that or question your stance, you are just hoping we confirm your beliefs.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 03:55 PM
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Jesus Christ and here's me with a preference for teeny tits. How obsessed with breasts and women do you have to be to assume so many subtexts based on your preference for breasts???!!!
/r/ExRedPill30/10/20 01:43 PM
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I literally searched muscle attractive in pubmed, near the top results is an article here comparing sexual selection strategies and comparison with our internalised ideas of body image. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27257677/
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 03:37 PM
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Bruh, psychology is a massive field, go have a look. I've pointed out evopsych is considered mostly nonsense, I'm not your google/pubmed/etc as well.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 03:20 PM
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.... what? The fact is that evopsych isn't a reliable science. It doesn't need to be replaced by another method, there are things that will be nigh on impossible to understand and how our psychology changed over centuries/millennia is probably one of them. The entire field is problematic. This entire question demonstrates the problem. What phenomena? That muscles are attractive? There are plenty of studies you can read up on the psychological reasons behind sexual selection that don't rely on us…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 02:44 PM
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Most of it is untestable and the hypothesis are considered ad hoc based on the results they already have. Like we can discuss how some of the core principals of the discipline are heavily discredited (module based processes) or the fact that the entire discipline suffers from not being testable really, which means that the scientific method cannot be properly applied to it and so it doesn't hold up to legitimate scrutiny, but it seems you're not very willing to look into this yourself because yo…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 02:22 PM
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I mean the scientific method that is used for all other areas of science.... logical positivism. Evopsych isn't taken seriously by evolutionary scientists or psychologists realistically. As I have pointed out (and named) some anthropologists have demonstrated some use but the vast majority of it doesn't hold up to legitimate scrutiny. It's clear you don't understand this field given you first tried to assert it was biology yo. I'm just helping you out here so you don't go repeating nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 01:21 PM
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I mean obviously the mindset isn't reasonable, even by your own metric you know it's not. I'd be less concerned with getting women than becoming more comfortable in your own skin. The fear of someone cheating is probably more closely tied up with feelings of inadequacy than you like to think about but it's there, it's part of how that fear can be so insidious in wedeling in. You're not going to get out of this mindset whilst women are one big homogeneous group
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 01:17 PM
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Evopsych relies on assumptions and generalisations that are often untestable. As such it is more bunk and personal opinions than science. Not to say there isn't valid theories out there, but for the most part once you start speculating on our psychology and how it relates to evolutionary principles you're out of logic and facts and in the weeds of your own bias'
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 01:00 PM
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Yeah, what I'm helpfully pointing out to you is that you are saying something is biology when it's not, it's evopsych. As I said you may want to read up on these topics as you don't know what you're talking about like.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 12:20 PM
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Why do I reject people's own imaginary ideas as evidence....? Also Evopsych is most definitely not biology and you could probably do with reading up some to discern that. I'd recommend Jared Diamond if you would like some evopsych with actual basis in reality (although even he is reticent to call it that given how moronic the discipline is filled with)
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 10:50 AM
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Mate you might wanna jump off that evolutionary psych train before it crashes into a wall. Basically anything that relies on our "evolutionary/primal/old times" mind working is nonsense. Often we extrapolate modern ideals to primitive cultures and then apply our own conjecture on what it might be about with basically no evidence. Evopsych is one hell of a drug
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 10:44 AM
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Ehhhhhhh I'd disagree there. The ultimate shaming comes from other TRP. These guys aren't having enough female interactions for the stigma to come from other sources and TRP presents it as something that women will shame you for. Don't get me wrong though, the use of incel and virgin by folks as an insult is the same level as simp.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/20 10:40 AM
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Philip Zimbardo there's a name I don't trust....
/r/ExRedPill23/10/20 12:54 PM
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Like I really want to like it but.....
/r/ExRedPill21/10/20 04:37 AM
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I agree with the acknowledging and recognition, I'm probably not the best at that aspect though! I'd say I still tripped over a lot of what was posted there. I will check the article oot.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:38 AM
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See frankly, overall my issue is the continued generalisation of women. That's the issue I continuously have with this nonsense. I also suspect my opinions are often more of " a little knowledge can be a bad thing". Someone might say yeah that's a great change, they've improved. But the fundamental issue of generalising women hasn't been tackled. Also there's the fact that this individual probably wouldn't appreciate being pointed out they are still being misogynistic (and this is a complicated …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/20 03:11 AM
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Frankly I really doubt a large proportion of women make the decision to not date someone in order to avoid hurting their feelings later. But I may be wrong, I'm more than open for that to be discussed. Probably not by either of us though. I don't see how shifting women's agency away from themselves and reverting to 1950s ideas about a woman's feelings revolving around a mans helps with empowerment though. Apologies for being blunt, it's not meant to be offensive just don't get that point at all.…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 06:42 PM
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Tbh a large part of this entire thing falls apart for me with the premise that women don't go out with men who are too needy or aren't their type because they don't want to hurt their feelings and that if they did go out with them and broke up it would hurt said mans chances of future relationships. Like, that's taking the agency of women and saying that agency is solely about men's feelings, a woman might just not want to go out with you for whatever reason she wants. So if that's what your poi…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 05:42 PM
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Some people like strong and insensitive people, some like weak and sensitive and the whole gamut in between. You can't generalise, that's the issue with TRP, considering groups like women as homogeneous hiveminds
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 03:23 PM
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As someone who's worked with women who murder, they get letters from men too. So /u/RoseAvara I would put to you why Are some men so infatuated with these murderous women? is it because they are mysterious? are they very beautiful to them? why do these men chose to ignore the fact that they are killers? is the fds true in its claim that men's morals and reason are purely dictated by their emotions? this is one thing I find to be very strange about men.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 01:39 PM
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You know women's existences isn't completely tied up in their role to men right? Just checking like. ​ Edit: Also to clear up, are you saying hypergamy applies to men as well as they find some women more attractive than others? Is that what you're redefining hypergamy as?
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 01:16 PM
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Yeah, that's complete nonsense. Our understanding of pain is poorly understood at best and the idea that what medication is available OOT determines how bad the pain is is fantastical at best and conveniently ignores all the facts. Please don't tout this as logistical when it makes as much scientific sense as Green Eggs and Ham
/r/MGTOW15/10/20 10:37 AM
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I think a good start would be decent personal hygiene. Not like a comment on you but it's a thing like.....
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 08:36 PM
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That's a pretty piss poor reason to say menslib is a problematic subreddit. Shockingly a lot of subreddits delete things that go against their ideals. Especially in this context it's important to provide an appropriate space, like that's not censorship (whole other argument) but an expression of those mods free speech, just like in all the other hundreds of thousands of forums where they do that. And to compare it in any way to fds is hilarious. Like if you've been talked down from problematic, …
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 06:39 PM
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It's not progress, from watching those videos. It's TRP but wearing a t shirt that says "Don't hate hypergamous women, date 'em"
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 12:18 PM
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So in that first video, aside from having to listen to someone analyse the pill situation again but completely missing the whole trans message again, there are several issues with this. First is that most of the other content form this guy is heavily red pilled. The general idea of this seems to be that trp is correct but the way to solve the problem with trp isn't, which beggars belief. The issue is entirely that trp holds a worldview that isn't correct and the steps taken by trpers after that …
/r/ExRedPill14/10/20 12:17 PM
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Wow, such nonsense. no evidence, only bigotry, ​ When your self image is so low you have to demonise 50% of the population with absurdities to feel better about yourself.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/20 12:51 PM
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I found your videos to be interesting, but as the other commenter has said you need to change those names up. No one will watch something labelled Episode X because I assume I need to have seen all the episodes beforehand. I suspect you got views for the title "pop culture masculinity" because especially now that will be interesting, but not every video can just be labelled that. Also I have no idea what some of the videos are about outside of the WAP ones due to the labelling. Just my 2 cents l…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 02:49 AM
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This is an issue I've raised before. As a rape survivor I find the entire dismissive attitude towards sexual assault horrendous and it's why as much as they claim to be supporting male victims, they don't actually give a shit about us.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 09:22 PM
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I'd like to make a distinction here, there ARE men who support male abuse victims and I'm sure some are in MRA forums, however in my experience much more help has came from feminist circles. As a victim of male on male (child) abuse I've often found the discussion side lined for female on male abuse (not acceptable when I'm talking about my shit) or outright dismissed on some particularly poignant occasions, only then for those same users to crow about caring for male abuse victims. I'm not a to…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 03:40 PM
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The entire "Men are logical, women are emotional" is such rubbish, and unsurprisingly this is a view mostly espoused by right wing groups. Men are just as emotional, but it is being expressed differently, shockingly thinking men and women are substantially different isn't a logical place to be and requires an emotional component to maintain. Sorry, just the entire "I'm being logical and reasonable" folks are pure nonsense, there's a reason Vulcans are cold but not bigoted, the lack of emotional …
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 03:24 PM
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I don't have a problem with feminism? Like women are people to and deserve to be treated as such. I mean I don't like TERFs but that's because they're bigots as well?
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 03:21 PM
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Not who you responded to but there are many facets. From a personal point of view their attitude towards men who have been abused is pretty shocking. Additionally their attitudes towards men is based entirely around fragile and toxic masculinity. Then if you go a step further incels and their attitudes towards other men is pretty self explanatory in how it's misandry.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 03:20 PM
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No idea why this was the response that got all the black pill bugs interested.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 03:17 PM
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Here's a stumbling block I have there with that logic, how many of your guy friends are you down to plough? How many as an expression of how much their friendship means would you do that to as well. Because stating it's an expression of how important the friendship is but not being down to clown with guys means you're denying a genuine honest connection. Like I'd be careful here because I feel like you like this woman (obvs) but you're confusing with generalising. Is it worth sometimes taking a …
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 09:02 PM
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First, just to saw soz you're only getting our perspective on this. I read you were cross posting but I've seen that's not worked too well so I don't want to jump on you as well from the exredpill side, but I think the advice you've been getting in this thread is pretty decent. One thing I might jump in and say is about the line here: " instead of doing her favors with the intention of getting into a relationship, I was up front and that made her uncomfortable " Like I'm not sure what you meant …
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 12:51 PM
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I'm well aware PUA as its form came before TRP had a name, however TRP originally occurred and grew with the PUA community, with TBP being an offshoot with groups like PUAHate. Both groups use the same views of women and whilst they may purport themselves to be different, it's largely cosmetic. The idea that PUA is about changing the perception of you and TRP is about changing you is nonsense, both purport to try and do both. Both use narratives of self improvement to supply an almost identical …
/r/ExRedPill09/09/20 12:29 PM
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I mean PUA is part of the redpill, the blackpill has its roots in rejection of PUA methods. The subbreddit may be different but as whole PUA fits into redpill whilst most incels fall into blackpill
/r/ExRedPill08/09/20 06:04 PM
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Just to help you out OP, this attitude is a self fulfilling prophecy and is the kind of head space that will fuck you over. No one wants to be around someone self pitying. Depressing and nihilistic is not the same as realistic. As for the dating xp, it'll help a lot more if you're not framing this as some big thing yourself. Worrying about things like that will do far more damage to your self esteem and confidence than the actual lack of XP
/r/ExRedPill07/09/20 06:22 PM
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I see simp and incel as 2 sides of one coin. Both parties use the word way outside of its original meaning as simply an insult. In the case of incels I thinks it's actually a pretty problematic use.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 04:10 PM
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The founding forums of the modern incel movement (eg. PUAhate) are all based around this exact premise, ie that PUA are just exploiting vulnerable men, but also hate women for forcing them into this situation. Also you're talking about the schism that happened on incel forums between personality vs. lookism, ultimately lookism won.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/20 02:21 PM
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The RedPill, like incel forums, has undergone a steady decline into insanity as it becomes more marginalised. More extreme ideas are promoted and those not willing to follow the path are excluded from the group resulting in a fall in sane voices. Like I suspect most of them are just unhappy men who live vicariously through the forums.
/r/ExRedPill31/08/20 02:31 AM
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a) alpha/beta bullshit isn't real. Read some actual primate theory, Chimps just fuck each other senseless to resolve basically everything 2) Some women like muscles, some don't. Pretty universally folks like confidence because it makes you someone people want to be around. If you meet women and simply lament about how all they want is chads, and not you, well no one wants that downer shit. iii) People are all different. I'm a short chubby guy with shitty social skills and an autism diagnosis who…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/20 08:34 PM
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Dwight Schrutitude
/r/ExRedPill19/08/20 08:27 PM
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The redpill doesn't apply to "many" women, that's a fallacy peddled by the redpill. It applies to some, sure. But the fundamental crux of it is generalisation of women which is nonsense. Shockingly younger women are often less mature, but then again so are a lot of older women. Women are people and a symptom of the human condition is that we are all different people. Relationships with folks young and old, men, women, non binary improve when you realise that
/r/ExRedPill18/08/20 11:26 PM
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I'd have a read on sexual selection. Unfortunately folks conflate natural selection with sexual selection, this isn't the case. Humans don't really give a fuck about genetics too much anymore, so our main pressure is sexual selection. On the bright side that does mean that the minority of unacceptable folks is not something as simple autism, especially high functioning. Theredpill and its ideologies are great for stuff like depression because they reinforce negative views about women and yoursel…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/20 05:07 PM
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No worries. It's really fucking hard to unlearn this stuff and it's very pervasive, but it's very possible. Women are people, just like you, honestly that realisation how I stopped being a NiceGuyTM growing up. You may not agree with everyone in the world, but just like how you baulk at phrases like "All Men Are Trash", you've gotta apply that same disdain for ideas like women engage in hypergamy, like how is that any different? Some men ARE trash and some women do engage in hypergamy but some w…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/20 04:24 PM
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Apologies, I didn't mean to sound like I was being aggressive, but these are the defence mechanisms you've picked up and employed was what I was trying to emphasise. Those are the things you need to break and replace with healthier responses. Just read back your responses here, rather than accept what folks are saying you are falling back on ideas that are seriously out of left field, and that's exactly how a defence mechanism around a poor ideology works. They are self reinforcing. Like I get i…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/20 02:51 PM
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I know you say you've left the redpill and presumably this is your first relationship, but you've internalised a lot of their narratives still. Most of the ideas espoused are broscience, not real science. It's science that only justifies what they already believe. You are already cherry picking parts of the article and generalising women in a way you're clearly not generalising all men, because you have set yourself apart. You aren't viewing your partner as a real person here but simply as a amo…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/20 12:15 PM
2

Incels subscribe to the "Chad/Tyrone/Normie" idea mostly, so women are attracted to other men, just not them. Their interpretation (for want of a better word) of women is that women are denying them sex and physical affection but are lavishing it on others. Sometimes those others deserve it, sometimes they don't. Incels are definitely the most openly self hating of those groups. PUAs/redpill think women have sexual agency as far as I'm aware, but they either lean more toward "chard" theory or co…
/r/ExRedPill08/05/17 11:45 PM
1

You might be better placed to ask him to research and back up his claims with actual science, since most MRA ideas are based of pseudoscience like hypergamy. If he agrees with an idea then he should look for evidence that both goes for and against it and learn to weigh it up. An understanding critical reasoning is far better protection for these ideas especially at his age. It seems like a lot but just striking down his arguments does run the risk of cementing his views further, as you mentioned…
/r/ExRedPill08/05/17 10:40 PM
7

So you are human and made a mistake. What do you think you did wrong in those relationships? What behaviours could you improve? Maybe some of those women were at fault, maybe some weren't, but when a relationship breaks down it is rarely the fault of only one partner. And especially if you have had a string of relationships that broke down seemingly without reason actually sounds like there is a reason, and the only constant there is you. I wish you the best in your search but until you can take…
/r/ExRedPill08/05/17 09:09 PM
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