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| 1 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?You aren’t taking anything away from men by giving equality to women. The role of provider is still available if they want it. But they don’t want to be providers; they want to be the SOLE providers. Which is because of control not benevolence. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?Men are choosing A over B because there is no need to fake that they care about women’s humanity. In the past, you had to convince women to live in a system that hurts them. There has to be a morally tolerable narrative. Now there doesn’t. It’s not because men are being displaced as providers, as you posited elsewhere, because no one is banning men from having jobs. They can still be providers if they want. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?No, you asked “why are young men being taken in my an ideology that hates women instead of the ‘chivalrous, self-sacrificing man’ ideology”. I’m telling you those two things are the same. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?“Why are redpillers choosing a hateful patriarchy over a benevolent one” was your question. I’m saying all patriarchy is inherently hateful | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?All patriarchy is violent. Ok take “benevolent” patriarchy. In order to accept the “protection” of men there needs to be something to protect against. Which is other violent men. The threat of violence is what provides the “benevolence” | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?If you cannot own property or vote or take a loan you aren’t choosing. No one’s great grandmother had free choice. Not yours either. She may have enjoyed being a mother but she did not have freedom. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?There is no shift. It’s all the same thing. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?You should condemn both. They the same exact thing. You are talking about two things that are the same. Benevolent patriarchy is also violent patriarchy. All patriarchy is violent. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?I agree. But our grandmothers did not choose that or “aspire” and you said they did. Our grandmothers were FORCED. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?That role was not prevalent in modern history. That’s what those men said publicly but privately those benevolent patriarchs raped their wives and beat their kids. Our great grandmothers and grandmothers warned us from a very young age to never be in that vulnerable of a position again. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:20 PM |
| 4 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?No. It’s the fear of losing unearned entitlements. Men can still easily become husbands and fathers if they become emotionally intelligent, safe and well-regulated human beings. Many, many men do that and that role is up for grabs for men. But doing that is a lot of work. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:18 PM |
| 4 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?Millennials want to be financially independent BECAUSE those completely dependent subjected women of the past told us from a young age to be so we would not end up like them | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:14 PM |
| 4 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?Our great grandmas did not aspire to be tradwives at all. They had no choice, and therefore they warned us (their granddaughters) to never be financially dependent upon a man. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?“Benevolent” patriarchy and “toxic” patriarchy are exactly the same thing. It’s just how public you are willing to be about the abuses, and what excuses people give for inequality. But all patriarchy is subjugation and oppression. | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:12 PM |
| 3 | Why have men in search of masculine identity veered toward the 'manosphere' rather than a traditionally masculine identity based in benevolent patriarchy?The “toxic” and the “chivalrous” are two sides of exactly the same thing. It’s just how public the abuses are | /r/ExRedPill | 18/04/25 08:10 PM |
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