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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
60	What are the limits of feminist theory for male advocacy?	discussion	Intrepid_Cry_9172	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/02/24 11:57 PM

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2	Let’s talk about incels Building men up and giving them something to strive for personally I do think is very important. It's important to note that political activism and culture wars are slowly becoming the new "religion". It provides you with meaning and a struggle and gives you community, these marches and on ground activism serves as a way to socialize and meet your comrades. I think that is where the world is going to go as polarization increases. But we're a social species and we have intrinsic motivations to se…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	25/02/24 02:27 AM
1	How do we find space for men and boys advocacy? Another problem is that it becomes an 'entertainment' or something to be consumed. We become desensitized to it. Voice and video content without any rage bait would help. https://youtube.com/@ashieldformen50/ I like these videos.	/r/MensRights	24/02/24 08:15 AM
8	Welp boys… It finally happened It finally happened Good. Finally we will have less askfeminists reaction posts. /s	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/02/24 07:35 AM
3	Let’s talk about incels I am a virgin in my mid twenties. So I have felt what incels feel to some extent. I have seen friends feel similar experiences.. How it can cause you to feel less inclusive in friend groups, how it can cause you to socially withdraw, how you can lose purpose and meaning, how you lose your self confidence and destroy your self worth, how you start hating how you look when you see social media, how you start avoiding social media, how you become invisible to the society, how you can't look yoursel…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/02/24 06:33 AM
7	Why do you suppose that subs like this don't get overrun by feminists? Because MRA is not a threat to them. Look at the pushback redpill has gotten. Also what does "beating" in a debate mean? It means being acknowledged by them because they are powerful and superior. Men want to be acknowledged and their issues validated by women. They don't necessarily care about those issues to be solved. It's because men self loathe themselves and believe that they are somehow less unless they get a woman's validation. Feminists don't bother with men's spaces because they believ…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/02/24 04:41 AM
9	Most insane serious article I have ever read. Misandry And The Modern Woman: How Hatred Can Cause A Lifetime Of Misogyny \| YourTango FTFY	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/02/24 04:23 AM
4	Let’s talk about incels 20 years, damn. I have a question to ask about the history of the manosphere. Did the term 'gynocentrism' come from MRAs or MGTOW first? In general, I want to understand the motivations of the people who first started using the term. Was the term gynocentrism used to describe a system that men should free from or was it used to describe a system that men cannot ever free from and "learn to live with it"?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/02/24 03:28 AM
1	I majored in Gender Studies (Australia) AMA Gotcha, thank you for answering!	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	24/02/24 01:06 AM
1	I majored in Gender Studies (Australia) AMA Interesting! I had heard about that movement as well. But didn't much look into it. Anything about men's rights movement or men's liberation or masculism? Also, are there evolutionary psychology perspectives included to explain gender ? Or is it more social construction that is focused upon?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/02/24 11:34 PM
3	I majored in Gender Studies (Australia) AMA Yeah because patriarchy has become a grand narrative now. Here is an interesting segment I found in a cultural studies course. (6m54s - 13m40s). It talks about identity politics and right wing politics in India but it's still applicable to gender politics as well. Patriarchy and feminism has become a grand narrative which is used to unify people for power and control by even rewriting history. It's important to have micro narratives and stories which are not 'recontextualised' by feminism. Even …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/02/24 11:11 PM
12	I majored in Gender Studies (Australia) AMA What are some of the other perspectives apart from feminism in gender studies ? By feminism I mean explaining things from patriarchy as a system. Are there alternative systems explored which don't necessarily paint men as oppressors and women as oppressed? Also what is the difference between gender studies and women's studies?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/02/24 11:26 AM
1	Five Reasons Why Legal Prostitution Will Improve Gender Relations The 'owed to sex' is a harmful talking point. It connects to feminist theory that men feel they are owed sex because of patriarchy. There are many incels who do pay for sex. There are others who are looking for intimacy and love. Some believe that since the women are not attracted to them, there is no point. Most of the incels measure their self worth based on women having sex with them or not. So paying for sex is like that knife which makes their self worth to 0, so they won't do that. There a…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/02/24 10:38 AM
8	Since “Men’s Rights Activist” has negative associations to the label, what would you call yourself? Nothing. Just a man.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/02/24 10:14 AM
12	Dogma of "no sexism against men" - results of a poll among feminists Feminism makes you at best blind to misandry (apathetic enabler) and at worst misandrist (bigot) What they mean when they 'sexism' is things that help their cause in the long run and men will be blamed for their own problems.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	21/02/24 09:56 AM
5	Five Reasons Why Legal Prostitution Will Improve Gender Relations I mean, even if it solved gender problems, it's women's choice and their decision. In my opinion, this is not something that MRA should comment on. This kind of rhetoric is eerily close to state mandated wives on blackpill boards. Are men forced to provide by the state for the benefit of women? Yes Does that mean we should be expecting women to provide sexually? No If sex work is work, does that mean men should be working for women? Should men be working dangerous jobs for women? See where it le…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	20/02/24 07:32 AM
24	Five Reasons Why Legal Prostitution Will Improve Gender Relations I think prostitution is a choice by women and their decision. Men advocating for legalization of female prostitution is not a MRA concern and it looks pretty bad... Men should not be shamed for paying one though and a man should be able to make an informed choice to navigate it. The context especially the earlier thread in which this is being discussed is to pathologize male virginity as if they are diseased patients who will turn into monsters and somehow sex workers are doctors who will cure t…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	20/02/24 02:37 AM
5	Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movement I don't think it's an extreme reaction tbh. There is a reason that out of all the political movements, only the men's movement has so much blackpill. Look at the motivations of people who are arguing for these ideas. Redpillers constantly talk about how hypergamy is natural and only the top 20% of men win and rest 80% of men lose and it's all just natural. Mgtow constantly talk about how there is no point in doing activism and we should just check out of the society because there is a collapse c…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/02/24 11:03 PM
13	Serious Theory: the Right has always had its own "feminism", and this may have contributed to a serious problem within the movement there might be deeper reasons rooted in how humans generally think. Yeah it's called gynocentrism. Quite a few people have observed it and tied it to evolutionary biology. Traditionalism and feminism, the great gynocentrisms of our time Traditionalism and chivalry = the other feminism Perennial feminism: The Inevitable Conclusion To All Patriarchies A response to stone by MGTOW, On MRA dysfunction Although beware because there is a strong tendency to tie gynocentrism to biology or evolutionary t…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	19/02/24 11:14 AM
1	What are the limits of feminist theory for male advocacy? I am not saying to trick anyone. Most men's issues affect women as well, so you just need to find how it affects them and speak to their advantage. It's not really a lie or a trick. Helping men will help women as well.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/02/24 01:20 PM
3	What are the limits of feminist theory for male advocacy? Yeah but if you frame a mens issue in 2 ways, you might be able to get them on board to some extent. 1) how that issue is caused by 'patriarchy' and is systemic. 2) how solving that issue and the solution will help reduce misogyny and help women.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/02/24 09:34 AM
9	What are the limits of feminist theory for male advocacy? A significant part of it is the damage caused by feminism to men or the misandry created by feminism. It makes sense that advocacy against the misandry caused by feminism done by male feminists would not be heard because the feminist overlords won't ever agree with that because they won't let a man tell them their actions harmed men especially when the actions were done in the name of women empowerment. This is why we see people like Richard Reeves make deflecting solutions like 'redshirting' in…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/02/24 09:31 AM
18	What are the limits of feminist theory for male advocacy? stuff needs to be treated as the female equivalent of the new-ish red pill stuff I agree. I think feminists would argue that it's not as bad as redpill because men have more power. They generally choose to see it as homophobic and transphobic rather than misandry. It's like it's blind to any misandry which cannot be reduced to some other constructs like class, race and sexuality and even the ones who get recognized, their misandry will be reduced to something else.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/02/24 02:14 AM
5	Any good subreddit The sub also has one of the rules saying we are all victims of capitalism and patriarchy. They are definitely feminists. I don't understand how they come to the conclusion that the left has failed men because feminism is not radical enough....	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	18/02/24 01:05 AM
1	Guys Opinion about this last statement? Talking about male issues causes annoyance to feminists because their identity is based on men being classified as oppressors. So anything that threatens their narrative is an attack on their identity.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/02/24 09:08 PM
3	Why are men's problems discussed primary by Conservatives, whilst women problems prinarily by leftists? Conservatives don't discuss men's problems on priority. They discuss family problems and men are needed for that so that ends up discussing men's problems in a way that helps them. Leftists either focus on the working class (both men and women) and women because they believe women are oppressed and so that needs immediate attention according to them. It's the belief in patriarchy which comes from feminism that makes leftists ignore male issues for women's issues. Both parties have recently start…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/02/24 08:54 PM
4	Any good subreddit r/MenSupportMen r/Pro_male_collective	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/02/24 12:36 PM
8	Any good subreddit Based on some of the responses there, it seems like a menslib 2.0.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	17/02/24 12:35 PM
6	‘Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism People need to stop talking about masculinity. God I hate that word. Talk about men as people not some nebulous construct like masculinity.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/02/24 05:54 AM
13	Have you watched Karen Straugan's YouTube video "Feminism and the disposable male". The cancel policy on MRA. there is no cost to the feminist. Most of the times when they "advocate" for men, it has something to do with how it benefits women.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/02/24 05:52 AM