Ionicomica Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
2	Is it harder for a man or a woman to be considered attractive? Definitely men	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 11:38 PM
0	Women's "entitlement" to men's nonsexual attention and company is a byproduct of their objections to unattractive men trying to get sex and sexual attention I'm not saying that never happens, don't get me wrong. But befriending women you aren't attracted to would lessen the risk of catching feelings for them...as opposed to being friends with a woman you're super attracted to and have things in common with. One situation is "safer" if that makes sense. My comments are directed at men who only are friends with the women they'd want to date. Not all men ofc, but I've met some who do that. I think that's a recipe for disaster.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 07:05 PM
0	Women's "entitlement" to men's nonsexual attention and company is a byproduct of their objections to unattractive men trying to get sex and sexual attention Yes, because men will befriend women who they'd be willing to date. You proved my entire point. If you want a FRIEND and only a FRIEND, then choose people you wouldn't date. You wouldn't date your guy friends, right? Men are being our "friends" in hopes of achieving an outcome like in the article you linked. We wish we could be seen as just friends, not a potential romantic partner or sexual object. That's where the frustration lies, we don't know what men really want when they act friendly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 05:52 PM
5	Women's "entitlement" to men's nonsexual attention and company is a byproduct of their objections to unattractive men trying to get sex and sexual attention Yes, men care, but it hurts to be rejected by someone you like, and staying around them makes the pain worse Then befriend women who you aren't interested in romantically and/or sexually?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 05:42 PM
9	A lot of women are awfully entitled to male company and friendship We don't put that on women. Press X to doubt lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 01:04 AM
10	A lot of women are awfully entitled to male company and friendship Seems like the man is more entitled thinking he deserves to waste a woman’s time pretending to be her friend THANK YOU. We don't feel "entitled" to friendship from people who don't openly want or value our friendship, but from those who pose as our friends with other motives in mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 12:56 AM
1	I often hear women say "I have attractive male friends with awesome personalities, but I don't like them that way." If they're attractive, why aren't they attracted to them? You can admire someone for their looks and personality, but depending on the way they carry themselves, behave, or think, that can signal to us that we won't be compatible. It can be over very little things, too. Not the men's fault, simply differences that we don't prefer and that's okay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 06:16 AM
–	What is a 'high value woman'? Hit the nail on the head.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 07:31 AM
4	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? TRUE. Not every woman has hordes of men pursuing them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 07:26 AM
2	What do you think is at the root of the “Femcel” phenomenon? But she won't get a long-term relationship, which is what most women care about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/23 07:23 AM
7	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity Agreed 100% The biggest flaw with the red pill is they want you to build everything up besides your character.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/23 12:08 AM
3	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity Absolutely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 10:08 PM
9	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity Oh, definitely. Just like how men like different things. From what I've gathered, every girl friend I have has said Andrew Tate is disgusting. If you use money to get women, you're going to have women who like you for your money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 09:13 PM
13	Women mostly get “the ick” over perceived shortcomings of masculinity For women I'd say being humble, stoic, easy going (or charismatic, depends on the woman), loyal, and a family man/wanting to provide for his family are very attractive traits. It seems like men put more of an emphasis on having muscles, stoicism, money, status, etc. What men want can give a woman what she wants, but the virtues being taught by the manosphere are contradictory to what a lot of women actually care about imo. For instance, you'll hear women gush about men who have pets and a caring…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 08:16 PM
–	Q4M: What lessons are you taking away from the Jonah Hill text leaks? Don't waste your time. His comment was nasty and unwarranted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/23 04:33 AM
–	Q4M: What lessons are you taking away from the Jonah Hill text leaks? I've dated and hooked up with many of those types of girls Doubt	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/23 04:31 AM
1	Height is the most influencing factor to a man's SMV Sexual market value	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 05:16 PM
1	Height is the most influencing factor to a man's SMV The term SMV makes me want to bash my head against a wall.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 11:26 AM
–	I do not wish to date anymore You're assuming a lot lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 09:59 AM
–	I do not wish to date anymore She was much much heavier than in the photos online. I could've left only seeing that but she could have been an awesome person and whatever. Judging by this, maybe it's a good thing you two aren't going out. You don't seem that attracted to her, and she didn't seem to be enjoying the date. It's a win for both of you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 08:46 AM
1	What dating advice would you give to women? Wrong about what? You've said nothing of substance. My point is women who value partnership and chasteness aren't the women who would sleep with a man right away. You say men want sexually adventurous, chaste women which makes ZERO sense because it's a fucking oxymoron. The women who will make good wives aren't looking for the men you're describing as respectable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 12:49 AM
0	What dating advice would you give to women? Women who value partnership value men who will wait for sex. A chaste woman is more likely to hold off on sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 12:00 AM
1	What dating advice would you give to women? Why would a respectable guy who values himself and has sufficient options, ie the guys that women actually want, commit to the girl who isnt going to have sex with him when other girls will? Maybe, just maybe, women don't care for the "respectable" guy when she can get someone who will respect her and treat her as if she matters?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/23 08:53 PM
–	Hire an escort isnt advice, its an insult. So they tell these men just to pay for it, because in their eyes, sex is a commodity to be bought and sold, sex isnt a thing between two people, its a commodity. Why are you telling men to "just hire an escort" when they want dates and sex? What motivates that? No, we're told that sex for men is a NEED. So, like with other needs in life, just buy it. You buy your water, you pay for the gas that allows you to cook food, a roof over your head. If sex is a need like food, water, and shelter, then j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 10:09 PM
1	When women say they want "a little bit of muscle" on a guy they still mean a lot of muscle It's quite simple, really. When I'm asked if I like muscly guys, I think of either very well defined muscles or large mucles, neither of which I particularly like. If you ask any women the same question, a similar thing will likely come to mind: a guy with large or defined muscles. So you like leaner guys but you don't like abs even though lean guys are more likely to have visible abs So not all lean guys have visible abs, funny how that works. Like I said, a lot of you are just in the dark with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 05:56 AM
1	When women say they want "a little bit of muscle" on a guy they still mean a lot of muscle Does athletic always = muscle??? I never found six packs or large arms attractive. A guy could put minimal effort or not work out and he'd still be attractive. Some guys's natural bodies are attractive on their own.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 04:01 AM
2	When women say they want "a little bit of muscle" on a guy they still mean a lot of muscle Women who say they don't like muscles are either lying, don't want to admit it, insecure so they try to put down fit men, or like OP says deluded and ignorant as to what they actually mean - with plenty of women I've talked to agreeing. Are you saying that there's no women out there who just like leaner guys? Tf?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 03:55 AM
3	Women constantly assert that men have inflated self images, yet it is abundantly clear that most men are desperate and have zero standards. Women, on the other hand, consistently feel entitled to men way out of their league and think they are models when they are completely average looking. If men have no standards then that's a bad thing. Maybe learn a thing or two from women lol Plus, I've seen many men in the "manosphere" who demand a fit, feminine, attractive, trad woman but look like bob the builder lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 10:05 PM
2	"Men only think about one thing" is projection from women Women: "men only think about one thing!" Redpill and manosphere: "Women are only valued for looks and fertility." Men: "why do these women think we only care about one thing?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/23 05:27 PM
1	How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high? So? I think they shouldn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 08:00 PM
0	40 percent of Japanese men in their 20s have never been on a date all Japanese men sit around and never leave their homes Did I ever say this? I love how the argument here shifts I brought up working only because a lot of women in Japan want a more traditional guy while they themselves are not very traditional, it wasn't an argument on its own. Herbivore men also repel these women at the same time by not being forward and more masculine. There's a growing disconnect, and if you bothered to read the link I sent, a majority of Japanese men identify as herbivores…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 03:33 PM
1	How do you justify asking for a woman with a low body count, if yours is high? I think a high number of sexual partners is a red flag for both men and women. Women should not date guys who sleep around excessively.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 07:42 AM
0	40 percent of Japanese men in their 20s have never been on a date Or maybe they aren't going out and talking to women? There's even a term for this. These are men that sit back and wait for a woman to come to them. Meanwhile, Japan is a pretty patriarchal and traditional society in most matters and women, while also working jobs, want men to pursue them as most women in general do. I have no issue as long as they aren't blaming women for not dating them, but not finding a woman (or at least not trying to) is definitely their own prerogative and no one else's.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 07:30 AM
–	Are cels actually involuntary? Good question. I think no. There are incels (I think most) that "can't" get laid because they don't want to put in the required effort to attract women and have sex. That is voluntary, and I think if they had the drive to improve themselves, then most incels would stop being incels.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 04:31 PM
–	Are cels actually involuntary? Depends on the definition of incel, I believe most Incels could probably sleep with a 300lbs woman. Does that no longer make them Incels in your eyes? Yes, because choosing to not have sex with women you're not attracted to is voluntary. That isn't even a bad thing, either. The incels that do this have more in common with femcels than they realize.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 04:29 PM
2	If slut shaming and safety issues went away, women's sexual behavior would remain the same Neither do (most) women with how choosy they are, but you still have average or below average men who put in negative effort complaining about chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 03:59 PM
5	If slut shaming and safety issues went away, women's sexual behavior would remain the same I don't understand this at all. Do men not like really hot women? I'm sure if you put an average woman and a fucking drop dead gorgeous woman in the same room, majority would choose the hotter one lmfaooo	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 03:40 AM
5	What exactly is a traumatized woman? You are very based, man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/23 08:00 AM
–	PPD women be like: Your point about Japan was a low IQ response, you really didn't think that through. Nor did you with this response because "morality is irrelevant." Have a good one lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/23 04:54 PM
1	PPD women be like: You're conflating legality and morality. If anything you bringing up Japan proves my point, because the legal age there is extremely young. Obviously two very different scenarios and I'm not comparing them, but using your logic, it's fine to have sex with a 13 year old as long as it's legal. Just like you think it's okay for a 60 year old to be with someone on the cusp of legality in the US just because it's legal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/23 04:43 PM
1	PPD women be like: It matters because I think it's a horrible precedent to be setting. I'd find it especially bad if it were my own daughter, so I discourage the idea of it in general. What life could a 60 year old offer a 19 year old? They can't grow old together or have a family together. It's also telling if a man goes for a teenager who is fresh out of high school, and not someone with their shit together who is still relatively young. A 19 year old can't even go to a bar, drink, or gamble lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/23 04:19 PM
1	Reviving A Classic There's no way you actually think like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/23 05:53 AM
1	PPD women be like: I know people who aren't feminists who think it's off for a 19 year old to be dating someone significantly older. Not talking 20's...like a 50 or 60 year old guy. It doesn't have to be illegal for you to disagree with it or think it's weird.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/23 05:36 AM
1	Women have stricter body standards than men do in dating Most men will never achieve enough success in the former for it to really matter beyond a basic utilitarian value and their looks fade just as much as womens. It's not about being the best of the best. It's about likeability, having some amount of charisma, decent looks and hygiene, a career, a hobby, etc. Aspects of a person that you can improve. A lot of the time, doing well in one thing is enough to get you a partner. If you have something going for you, you can find someone. Men statisticall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/23 07:48 PM
4	Women have stricter body standards than men do in dating What's worse in your eyes? Being valued for a bunch of different things (like men are), looks, personality, career, wealth, popularity, etc.? Or would you rather be a woman being told that you are valued primarily for things you can't control and will eventually go away, like your looks and fertility? Women are "stricter" but can give a green light to a guy based on many things, while for a guy that isn't as true imo.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/23 05:10 PM