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Go on any feminist subreddit. They say things that are 10 times worse, 10 times as much.
/r/MensRights24/04/26 07:36 AM
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And then they realize that they have all been dating the same guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:22 AM
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According to this, dating apps would be the best since they are the easiest way to meet tons of women quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:09 AM
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Youre telling me that women were setting the expectation that they never work and only pop put babies? Why are you switching from present to past now? You said millions of women who are subverting the expectations, not were. The current expectation is that women are strong independent career sycophants. And yes this expectation is being set by other women. The modern day rebels are the women who want to settle down and have kids (and get shamed by feminists for it).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:12 AM
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How about the millions of women who subvert the expectations that society has of them? Expectations that are mostly set by other women lmao. Or are women doing things for male approval now? I guess it depends on the day of the week. Men have been doing whatever they want to since the very start. They didn't need a mainstream movement to tell them that it's okay to cut their hair short.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:04 AM
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https://www.historysnob.com/historical-figures/20-most-iconic-revolutionary-figures-what-they-did/22 17 men vs 3 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:53 AM
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Sure men also do these things. But women do them much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:37 AM
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I have never worn anything but a t-shirt and sweatpants to a date and it has never been a problem. You know why? Because it doesn't matter. Being attractive is the important part. Having money is the other important part. All of this bullshit advice just distracts men from the real bread and butter of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:52 AM
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Women being afraid of counterfeit Chads would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:51 AM
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"Confidence" usually means a 6 foot tall, 6 pack, 6 figure paycheck guy. They won't say what they actually find attractive so they cover it up with socially acceptable terms like "confident". This kind of advice is useless at best and harmful at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:46 AM
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slim Slim covers everything within the healthy body fat % category. This is a lot less restrictive than women's default 6 foot tall and jacked requirement. young So? Women prefer young men too. attractive If we are talking about facial attractiveness, men find all kinds of facial features attractive. No matter how you flip it, women's criteria are still more restrictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:37 AM
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without contributions from partner You got so close to the truth and then you managed to flip it around. He is using his meager paycheck so that she can live in a two room apartment. Not the other way around. Someone being poor doesn't mean that you can't squeeze the last of their resources from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:32 AM
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Plenty of women are okay with being in relationships with men they don't find attractive as long as they can extract resources from them. You aren't discovering anything new here. Alpha fucks, beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:28 AM
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Men only find a small number of women attractive so women should be free to also have preferences. Then why do men rate women according to a normal distribution while women rate men according to a distribution that's extremely skewed towards "least attractive"? The problem isn't preferences per se. The problem is that those preferences are extremely restrictive. For example, men like both short and tall women unless they are extremely short or tall. Women only like men who are in the top 20% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:17 AM
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It's not just this. Most of what feminists accuse men of is either projection or things that they would do if they had the opportunity to. Just look at the way feminists treat people who are weaker than them and everything becomes blatantly clear. Feminists can and do organize Tea-style groups so they think that men must obviously do the same.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 06:04 AM
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Women wouldn't just make up such extreme accusations Lmfao. You can't be serious. Funniest shit I've read this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:13 AM
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Alleged, not convicted. Huge difference. The court of public opinion doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:09 AM
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You can watch the entire saga of Clavicular becoming an asshole while getting more and more women interested in him just because he's conventionally attractive and has money and fame. Personality literally doesn't matter. Women continue to perceive Clavicular positively even after he ran over a guy on live stream. The entirety of our society and culture is based on practically worshiping people who are attractive and seem successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:52 AM
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They are right, in a way. It changed their perception of your personality. A hot guy with lots of money has a better personality than an average guy no matter what. They just lack the self-awareness to really question what constitutes a "good personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:30 AM
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He got more money and went to the gym. Women on the other hand are always saying the same old bullshit about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:23 AM
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They would have no other hobbies if they weren't able to gaslight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:21 AM
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This subreddit is probably the worst place to ask this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:41 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:09 PM
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I want to date a woman who has 10/10 looks, makes 7 figures, plays video games, watches anime and listens to heavy metal. What do I need to do to date her? Please explain like I'm eight years old so that I can keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:07 PM
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But that's not what I'm asking about. I want the exact magic words that I can say that would result in me getting good dating advice. Something like "what do I need to do to go on a date with a woman?" Very precise. Very specific. Do you have those magic words?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:00 PM
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I'm asking you. What's the magic combination of words that I need to say to get good dating advice? I don't want another deflection or a non-answer. I'm stupid. I give up. You win. Tell me what the magic words are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:54 AM
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So what's the magic combinations of words that will result in me getting actually good advice? I have never seen women give straightforward and clear dating advice like the Red Pill does. Are we all just stupid and unable to ask the question correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:43 AM
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putting us at risk for pregnancy, being deeply hurt, coercion/ rape, and having our “n count” increase (which reduces our SMV). See, when women actually find someone attractive, they don't think about that. They think about how to get to the sex stage as soon as possible. A self-respecting man shouldn't date women who will rationalize their own lack of attraction with bullshit reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:32 PM
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He wasn't with her, but he wasn't in a relationship with anyone else either. This is a guy who went on a grand total of 1 date in his early twenties while the frat boys were going on 10 dates with 10 different women a week. And now those women who failed to get into a relationship with any of those frat boys they actually wanted will settle for the nice guy. No one wants to be the nice guy in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:30 PM
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The "good man" who had to "stick around" while she was trying and failing to date chads isn't exactly "winning", is he? Love it when women prove red pill talking points in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:23 PM
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Think in what way? That being in a relationship with someone who actually finds you attractive is pretty nice? Yeah I'll happily admit that. It is pretty nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:20 PM
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Good. They can keep looking for their perfect beta orbiter / provider guy who they are going to gaslight and leave the rest of us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:15 PM
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If a woman doesn't like casual sex, it's going to be borderline impossible to satisfy her in a committed relationship too. No one wants to date someone who has a 20 point checklist that needs to be fulfilled in order to enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:13 PM
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Women also want sex fast when they are actually attracted to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:07 PM
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What's the point of even asking this question when everyone already knows the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:04 PM
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Women who represent the majority opinion aren't on Reddit. TwoX is already pretty niche and this subreddit is a niche of a niche. Good for entertainment but will give you a seriously skewed perspective if you actually consider anything that is being said here seriously. The vast majority of women are cool, normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:32 PM
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No, the morally right position is being honest. Dating based on looks and admitting that you are dating based on looks = honest. Dating based on looks while telling tall tales about personality = dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:28 PM
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Why are you only listening to one type of woman? I'm not. I have lots of female friends. That's how I know that most of what women say on PDD is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:56 AM
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implying that women were in the wrong for overestimating his intelligence. You're saying that what the intelligent man would do is disregard what women say (it's all about personality and confidence) and use common sense to figure out that what really matters is looks. A classic shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:43 AM
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Tell men to do one thing while expecting them to do the opposite thing to separate the Chads from the simps and the beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:40 AM
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Great job on proving that women do in fact do shit tests. Sometimes society-wide shit tests at that too. I wonder what else the Red Pill may be right about. Also great job on proving that men should never listen to women because you just can't help yourselves and will lie for the pettiest reasons and then get angry that the lies were a bit too effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:35 AM
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Yes. Stacy likes a 6 foot tall Chad who works in finance and her friend Becky likes a 6 foot tall Chad with a guitar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:27 AM
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Winner-takes-it-all society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:38 AM
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Actually, the litmus test goes in the opposite direction. If a woman says that she gets harassed on a daily basis, I know that it's time to start running in the opposite direction from her as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:27 AM
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This. Understanding why someone did something is completely different from trying to justify or excuse their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:25 AM
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Ah yes. Women's ultimate fantasy: being shameless gold diggers without even pretending to offer anything in return. And they say that men are the ones to blame for toxic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:07 AM
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What deception? Were they wearing a muscle suit to appear more attractive than they actually are? There is no deception possible in the first place unless you are looking to trade resources for sex. Two people find each other attractive. They have sex. Everyone wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:05 AM
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Sex can (and should) be enjoyable for both parties. Resource extraction is always a one way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:59 AM
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Spending hundreds of hours networking or going on an app and getting twice as many options in a fraction of the time. One definitely works better and it's not networking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:54 AM
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Emotionally and verbally abusing someone is mistreatment. Being depressed, lazy and checked out is not. I'm not surprised that so many men act this way when women are constantly abusing them and then having the gall to claim victimhood when they get the world's most predictable outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:01 AM
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Why do you assume that it is the men who lie about who they are, rather than the women who cause the men to be that way? I can relate to becoming depressed and lazy in a relationship. No, it wasn't because I was hiding who I was. It was because I had to negotiate every minute of every day. I couldn't just sit down and watch a movie, I had to schedule it a week in advance and it was conditional on doing dozens of chores. Just giving up and stopping to give a damn is the world's most natural respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:30 AM
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Women's entire social (and not just dating) strategy is rooted in plausible deniability. For example, feminists will dress up shameless power grabs in flowery language about oppression and some mysterious patriarchy. Of course they hate it when you notice what they are actually doing or discuss it in any capacity. It reduces their social power. They can't manipulate people who know what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:36 AM
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Lesbians who wear makeup/provocative clothing exist. Yes? And they are doing it to attract other women. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:19 PM
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So what are we supposed to do then? It's all "don't do this and don't do that". Well, tell us what to do then? I can describe a very simple and very successful two step dating strategy for men: go to the gym until you max your looks. max your career as far as you can without hitting burnout. This will give you the highest chances with most women. Can you give an equivalently clear dating strategy? No bullshit. Just several easy-to-follow steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:20 PM
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Sorry, when she says that she wants a "nice guy", we make the mistake of assuming that she wants him as a partner rather than a walking ATM doormat. Obviously women don't see it that way because they are perfectly fine with having beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:11 PM
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Women's dating advice is basically describing the plot to the latest dark romantasy novel they've read. It's about as useful as if dudes described the "plot" to the latest porno they've watched when giving dating advice to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:07 PM
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If someone's words are being widely misinterpreted, maybe it is time for them to examine what it is that they are actually saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:03 PM
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You are asking this question in the worst possible place. None of the opinions posted here are representative of what the majority of women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:38 PM
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Lots of people are, they never have to diet in their lives Because they eat a normal amount of food to begin with. There is nothing magic about calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:37 PM
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I guess we can thank those women for their heroic sacrifice of dating men for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:01 PM
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Why does this subreddit even exist if we are going to spread blatantly false myths?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:00 PM
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How is making sure you spend more calories than you eat any different for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:58 PM
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For alot of women, it can be make up for in other aspects. It can, but no one wants to be the guy whom women date for his credit card.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:55 PM
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"Naturally skinny". Facepalm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:54 PM
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Red pillers would trust women more if women's actions didn't constantly contradict their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:10 PM
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Sure they aren't. Migrant families who come from countries that don't give a fuck about women's rights, on the other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:42 PM
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Because they don't like neither men nor children. So much for being the so-called more "empathetic", "caring" gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:32 PM
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I don't think that feminists really understand the massive self-goal it is when their ideology causes massively declining birthrates. Who will be left to keep feminism going if they didn't have any children?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:27 PM
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society has not distributed fairly to women. Living in the most women-centric society in the history of mankind and it's still not enough. Will be interesting to see what will happen once the local populations are displaced by migrants from countries that actually don't give a fuck about women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:23 PM
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Considering that their pensions will be paid for by the children of those "dumb" people, maybe they should talk less mad shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:22 PM
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Any population that makes itself go extinct by refusing to have children cannot be considered any definition of "smart".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:10 PM
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The entire history of mankind is all about people making sacrifices so that the next generation would live a little better. So yes, people can live comfortably after many many generations of everyone doing their part to make society a little bit better. A society full of self-centered individuals, on the other hand, will rapidly collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:05 PM
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Super comfortable modern life with many rights and privileges exists because the economy was good for a time and progress was made. When the population pyramid becomes inverted and the economy goes to shit, many of those rights and privileges will become impossible to maintain. For now it's possible to plug the holes with migrants, but for how long?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:48 AM
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Billionaires have problems too. Doesn't mean that they are relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:56 AM
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Women complaining about dating sound the same as billionaires complaining about private jet fuel prices. Not relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:52 AM
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I know the keywords. Once they start talking about "emotional labor" and the bear, I know that they have been watching those TikToks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:39 AM
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Don't need to be anti-men 4b to watch a bunch of content like that on YouTube or TikTok. It's practically everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:38 AM
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Modern feminism. I'm trying to date people who are hooked on an extremely corrosive and hateful ideology. Whatever I can bring to a relationship, it can't compete with women scrolling through TikToks all day long that are trying to convince them that their boyfriends are human garbage who don't do any chores around the house or whatever emotional labor is supposed to mean today. Every day is like walking on eggshells.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:33 AM
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They love drama. Toxic guys create the best drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:41 AM
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Normal women are higher than normal men because elite men maintain their place in the hierarchy by keeping normal men down. They just figured out that the easiest way to do it is to bribe women into being the middle manager enforcer class that keeps normal men down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:49 AM
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I'm going to let you in on a secret. Every system has flaws and drawbacks. There will always be a small group of elite men at the top of every system.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:26 AM
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No, there is a very straightforward approach. If you can't get any dates, start going to the gym until you can. If you still can't, start maxxing money until you can. If you still can't, you are shit out of luck. Everything else is a distraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:16 PM
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You are so close to realizing the truth. "Good social skills" don't exist objectively. They are based on how other people interpret you. Hence being rich and attractive counts as having good social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:36 AM
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I'm glad people are finally catching on to the bullshit that is "I dress for myself". Men dress for themselves as well but they don't feel the need to have 90% of their skin on display. "Dressing for yourself" but also complaining about how impractical your clothes are. Pick one.
/r/MensRights12/04/26 03:35 AM
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How convenient. Women are strong and independent when it suits them but can also claim to be helpless victims when things aren't working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:52 AM
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Women do not need men for survival. Come back when women make up the majority of oil riggers, infrastructure workers and miners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:27 AM
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It has been said over and over again, but if all men were to go on a strike for a week, society would cease to function. Who cares about a cushy air-conditioned HR office job when the oil rigs aren't being manned?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 09:08 AM
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A red pill man who is not cartoonishly evil for the sake of this thought experiment would just shrug, say "okay" and move on. Two months later he tells her that he's not interested anyway because she is a walking red flag. Four months later he is back on the mainland because he prioritized survival. He is selling books about his experience, going on talk shows, podcasts and using his newfound fame to have dozens of women chasing after him. On a meta level this post demonstrates that women will n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:41 AM
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Sure dude is a little broke and maybe a little broken internally or whatever (doubt). She is on the path to a bunch of nasty diseases and an out of control drug habit. Those dudes can get their shit together and move on. She is digging her own grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:35 AM
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Not sure what the point of this is. You're just illustrating that once again women would rather have sex with the asshole rather than the nice guy. We already knew this. Congratulations on proving the Red Pill right I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:33 AM
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Pretty sure she was winning that one. "Winning" by trading sex for drugs. Not sure in which world this would be defined as "winning".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:31 AM
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Most women on this subreddit have opinions that are not reflective of the majority even for their own generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:08 AM
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Immigration is a temporary bandaid that doesn't fix anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:04 AM
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if that means fewer marriages that is just fine. On a societal level, this is a complete catastrophe that people won't even realize they are sleepwalking into until the population pyramid is inverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:52 AM
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Yeah. The 20% of men who have the kind of jawlines that women like can. The rest are out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:51 AM
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Eeeh I don't think it's wrong per se to make a cost benefit perspective for relationships, the cost of being in an abusive relationship is pretty damn high and not worth the benefits after all. Most relationships are not abusive. The vast majority of people are not abusers. What people are is messy and complicated. A necessary fact of any close relationship or friendship is that you are opening yourself to being hurt because people can do stupid shit without thinking about its implications. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:27 AM
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Another day, another misandrist caricature on PPD that's more outlandish than anything early 2010s Red Pill could ever imagine. I dont see how its not clicking for men that being in a relationship with them is a bad deal for women. Newsflash, relationships are a bad deal for selfish people. You can't be selfish in a relationship. If you are in a relationship with someone you love, doing things for them doesn't feel like a chore. Approaching relationships from a cost/benefit perspective is some o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:16 AM
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Practically no one is complaining about the "loneliness epidemic". Men are complaining about romantic loneliness. The "male loneliness epidemic" is some kind of a gotcha to deflect from the fact of how screwed up the dating market is for men. Also what you are describing is the difference between male vs female friendships. Male friendships are low maintenance. I can call up some old friends I haven't spoken to in years and we'll be grabbing a beer in less than an hour. Female friendships are hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:48 AM
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Like I've said elsewhere, this subreddit is quickly becoming pointless. It's stuck 10-15 years in the past while the rest of the world has moved on. Lookmaxxing has gone mainstream while we are still arguing about the distribution of household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:19 PM
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Elliot Rodgers and Chris Chan showed alot of signs in how they would treat women in a relationship with them. Chris wasnt even respecting the boundaries of his only female friend. And Elliot thought he was entilted to hot women and even poured coffee on women that didnt pay attention to him. Exceptions don't prove the rule. Most people just don't give a damn about other people until they have a reason to. So is the argument is that women shouldn’t attempt to spot red flags? The argument is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:59 PM
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Guys, please do yourselves a favor and observe how lesbians react to women. "Responsive desire" is complete bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:55 PM
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I will explain this as succinctly as possible. People can be attracted to you for things other than looks. For example, they can be attracted to you because they like it when you shower them in money. Whether it's better to be considered attractive for your looks or your money is a matter of personal belief. In most cases it's a mix of both. If you can't attract someone with your looks, your only choice is maxxing your money or status or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:52 PM
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They would if they got the opportunity. You have your gender war goggles on. Everyone is capable of doing bad things. By your definition, everyone is a potential abuser. You guys seem to think only convicted felons can be bad people. Yeah sorry I don't believe that a guy who popped a balloon on a dating show is as bad as a violent felon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:47 PM
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To expand on 2, of course we’re not going to hear about abusers when they have no one to victimize. How can there be an abuser without a victim? Who are they abusing? Themselves? Lmao. To reiterate my point. We are not complaining. We are trying to speak from a position of common sense. Personally I'm out of any damns to give. If some woman thinks that dating ex-convict criminal gangbangers is her divine right, it's not my problem. The only one she is going to be harming is herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:38 PM
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It's impossible to fight misandry without fighting misogyny, which often has FAR worse consequences than an innocent man being wrongly accused of sexism. Former feminist ally here. At some point I realized that no matter how much feminism wins, it will never be enough for them. They will keep moving the goalposts so that they keep the status of being oppressed victims. I will always have empathy for individuals. But I have no more empathy to give for a movement that represents the most privilege…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:28 PM
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On the other hand, if we listened to PPD women, everything is pure magic that you can never hope to comprehend. There are no patterns, logic or predictable behavior. Only chaos and randomness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:00 AM
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There are many lost men like you. If you have to resort to insults, you know that you have lost the argument. Maybe reflect on why me pointing out such a painfully blatant and obvious fact as looks mattering the most for dating made you angry enough to start throwing insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:30 PM
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It's not complex at all. It's complex to people who want to be willfully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:19 PM
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doesn't know how to make money This matters. The rest doesn't. Unless you think that Clavicular's lifestyle of getting arrested is "interesting".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:18 PM
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You have to be willfully ignorant to still believe that looks aren't 80% of the equation in 2026. Ever wonder why the Red Pill fell off? It's because even the mainstream now believes in looks being by far the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:08 AM
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In reality it's closer to looks being 80% of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:04 AM
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I don't understand the point of this subreddit anymore. Practically everyone is in agreement that looks are the single most important thing in dating. What's the point of these circular debates about 10 other things that don't even matter 1/10 as much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:43 AM
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Going to work is the EASY part of life. Any guesses as to why that is? Doesn't it strike you as interesting that women see work as something that's easy, while men see it as something that's hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:02 AM
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holy shit, it's hard It's hard if you have no frame of reference for what "hard" actually is. You don't have a manager you answer to. You don't have a set schedule. You don't have performance reviews. Billions of people have managed to raise billions of children while having next to no clue what to do. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:46 AM
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So, why in the world would they ever want to give up careers to raise children, cook, and clean, and then be framed as a leech? They shouldn't. Having children is not a rational choice. It's something that you do if you want to. And if she didn't contribute to building half of that shared life and thus deserves half of the gain Being a housewife is not comparable to the vast majority of jobs in terms of effort. Neither is being a househusband. A fair split would require a fair assessment of how …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:38 AM
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Why would I need a source? Feminists themselves say this plain as day. Center women, provide for women, put women's needs ahead of your own. It's chivalry but without even getting anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:31 AM
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same as a big time feminist lesbian lol some of my favorite convos are ones calling out misandry and how so much of it like virgin- or height-shaming are aligned with patriarchal values. And then the same people who "call out misandry" go ahead and demolish male spaces lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:26 AM
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Feminism = patriarchy that benefits women. Why would I want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:25 AM
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If you are a man, feminists, liberals and left wingers in general are gonna hate you anyway just because of your gender. The best you can be is an "ally" and that card will be revoked if you make even the slightest misstep. If you are a man, it makes zero sense to kowtow to people who will always hate you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:21 AM
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What about the obvious inequality caused by 77% of teachers and education staff being women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:19 AM
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Lol as if there aren't tons of men who still feel lonely while in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:38 AM
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They are not lying. They really do believe that a hot ex-convict gangbanger is a better person than a guy who complains about dating online.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:22 PM
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"That depends on the crowd" is a deflection. The crowd that gives the respectful guy attention is purely a hypothetical. Being loud and visible works 100% of the time. You are free to date whomever you want. Just don't act surprised when the guy who knows how to play social politics starts using the same toolkit against you to weasel out of doing household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:24 PM
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Red pillers know that. If you walk into a room and act like a complete douchebag and start hogging attention, you will get rewarded for it while the respectful guy will get overlooked. What we are saying is that it's stupid. Women go for the exciting guy who dominates social situations and then act surprised when that guy starts exhibiting the same antisocial behaviors in a relationship. You get what you pay for. Negging is a social skill too btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:15 PM
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It can be both. It's easier than ever for Chad to have tons of sex. For the average man it's harder than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:58 AM
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endometriosis. Linked to obesity. PCOS. Also linked to obesity. cause weight gain. Weight gain is caused by eating more calories than you spend. Fixed by putting down the spoon and starting to exercise. height Which, unlike obesity, is fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:27 PM
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acne covered Self-inflicted and can be fixed. fat/chubby women Self-inflicted and can be fixed. The things that women disqualify guys for can't be fixed early as easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:12 PM
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I keep hearing about these women who are "not like the other girls" but they seem to exist only as a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:10 PM
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Lmfao and how do these women keep finding men who are extreme outliers? Thanks for supporting my analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:09 PM
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Dating for men = looking for water in a desert. Dating for women = looking for healthy food in a supermarket. The second is only difficult if you get distracted by flashy packaging and don't read the labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:49 PM
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Most guys would love to be stay at home husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:54 PM
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They do have options... they just don't settle for them. There are hot guys. There are guys with nice personalities. Hot guys with nice personalities are rarer than both of those. And they have a lot of options. When you are excluding 80% of the dating market based on looks alone, you can't complain that your only choices are various flavors of jackass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:50 PM
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Pointless platitudes. The majority of women won't get with a man regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:08 PM
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It feels great. Lifting is fun and has benefits other than aesthetics. Guys who are actually looksmaxxing instead of talking about it online are loving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:28 PM
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It's not "all or nothing". There is no upper limit to how much money will improve your dating prospects. A guy with a 5 figure job needs a small miracle to go on a date. A guy with a 6 figure job has ok dating prospects. A guy with a 7 figure job can do very well. Multimillionaires and billionaires can skip all of the "personality" stuff and have dozens if not hundreds of women chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:57 PM
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Yes, yes. They all claim to care about personality until the guy in a Bugatti pulls up and gives them a crumb of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:54 PM
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You absolutely need to pace yourself if you are playing the texting game. Double texting reeks of desperation and low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:32 PM
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Where's money? Where's status? This advice is useless because it doesn't tell you the relative importance of anything. A guy with some money and status but an awful personality will do a lot better than someone with a nice personality but no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:28 PM
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Classic. Women create toxic dating dynamics and then complain about them. If you won't ask guys out on dates or initiate sex, guys don't magically know where your boundaries are. Take more initiative and then you won't have this problem. Notice how women in the comments are talking about how they dated "bad men" who pushed boundaries. Not good, respectful guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:45 PM
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If conservative men are valueless simps, then liberal men are brainwashed idiots. Smart thinking people are apolitical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:32 PM
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It's fine if both partners are investing equally into the relationship. The reality of dating for most men though is all take and no give.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:13 AM
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So? Why would I care about one exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:01 AM
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All of it. Dating success = looks + money + status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:36 AM
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Things seem complex because of a lack of knowledge or a lack of tools to study those things. Unless you are talking super specialized fields of science, most things are remarkably straightforward once you actually understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:33 AM
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If women were stronger, men would be so cooked in a variety of ways we can't even begin to imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:03 PM
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Feminism is the Patriarchy™ that favors women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:53 AM
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How would I know? Go on her onlyfans and ask her who her cameraman is if you want an answer so much. Do you think there is some sort of a national pimp database?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:17 AM
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Whoever is working the camera and setting up the spaces she films in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:14 AM
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Their pimps run their onlyfans for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:10 AM
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Unlike that, being a lifestyle influencer requires at least a little bit of smarts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:08 AM
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These guys aren't showing their asses to millions of people online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:51 AM
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There's "growing and changing" and there's becoming jaded and cynical. Giving your current partner worse treatment than your ex is the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:05 PM
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Why would I want to be in a relationship like that? I don't want to be someone's second choice. That's beyond toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:04 PM
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The natural result of being given privileged treatment and never having to take other people's wants and needs into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:03 PM
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Not jealousy. It comes from holding myself accountable to some standards. I would NEVER treat a new partner worse than an ex. They had nothing to do with my previous relationships and it shouldn't affect the current relationship. It's unfair to them. All the women who think that it's okay to take out their unprocessed baggage on the new guy... you're just proving the Red Pill's point that dating high n-count women is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:09 PM
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I agree. Men don't owe women the same treatment they have given their previous partners either. They don't owe it to them to buy them gifts, remember important dates or help with household chores. Let's all be toxic together and treat each other like shit because of unprocessed baggage from old relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:03 PM
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Correct. It's a one-sided attack by women upon men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:44 PM
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Why would I not be okay with this? They are all consenting adults. Everyone knows about his side chicks and situationships. His current girlfriend knew before she got together with him. They obviously enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:08 PM
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One of my best friends has a girlfriend, a side chick and several situationships. I don't know, maybe women like these kinds of arrangements?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:55 PM
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The stable and reliable guy is chilling out after work. Not partying it up at the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:24 PM
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Being a good person isn’t the same thing as being an appealing partner. Lol I don't think anyone (at least the red pillers) have ever disputed this. We know that women will always choose the fun douchebag party animal over the stable and reliable guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:16 PM
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And yet every job that is even remotely dangerous is still being overwhelmingly done by men, some industries being up to 99% male. 1 woman working on an oil rig doesn't make up for tens of millions who work in HR and collect paychecks for doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:23 AM
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Women fought for decades to enter the workforce and the military, knowingly trading the historical so called protection of domestic life for the massive responsibilities and physical risks of those roles. ?? Women fought to get cushy high-paying office jobs with air conditioning, not grueling physical labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:50 AM
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Meanwhile Clavicular has women fawning over him all night long. Keep laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:25 PM
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Good on you for paying attention. In a couple of years looksmaxxing will be considered completely mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:01 PM
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Yes, they should want to improve the world that has deemed them undesirable. Are you even listening to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:00 PM
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It's not AI slop that makes these discussions feel pointless. It's the fact that you can watch a Clavicular stream for 5 minutes and see all of blue pill talking points being dismantled in real time. What is even the point of these debates anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:58 PM
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Okay and? I can think of situations where being nice helped. I can also think of situations where being a jerk helped. I act according to what is rational. Trying to be either nice or a jerk as a principle will screw you over when you are in a situation where you have to act in the opposite way to benefit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:49 PM
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Love and relationships are such fundamental aspects of the human condition that asking people to accept that they are undesirable and give up on them sounds extremely cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:43 PM
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Be a nice person because you want to be, there is no just world. Swapping one form of gaslighting for another. Being a nice person in a world that isn't just is insanely stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:39 PM
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Okay? Why should I care about that as a man looking to date women? As a man, my dating strategy is to be the guy women find attractive enough to have sex with. Not be the second choice for women who have emotional baggage from having casual sex with Chad. You are still stuck on the "good vs bad person" mentality that the vast majority of people don't care about about when making decisions. Please start thinking about incentives instead of a liberal arts graduate's understanding of systems of mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:34 PM
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Also, expecting women to “choose better” while upset that woman vet for good traits before sex is HILARIOUS, Factually incorrect. They vet for those traits with the beta provider guy. With Chad they have sex right away. Why do you care about the "good person" thing so much anyway? It's not a useful category for understanding how people behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:25 PM
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Dating doesn't mean she can't talk to other guys on her phone or have a "work husband". Or even be shopping around for an upgraded boyfriend behind your back and hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:47 AM
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We are not talking about 30. 35 is the point after it gets funny if you continue to call yourself a "young adult". Add another year or two and you are firmly into middle age territory. People are very good at lying to themselves about how old they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:45 AM
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Even if you are right about blaming capitalism (and that's a big if), you are still pointing blame in the wrong direction. Feminism is married to capitalism and the primary consumers are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:23 AM
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Make human connections. Men would like to. It's women who are saying that men are losers and they are happier on their own. Men aren't turning to the digital service industry as their first choice. Tech oligarchs are capitalizing on a dynamic that women themselves have created. This is just blame shifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:07 AM
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People entering their 60s will tell you that being 60 is not that old. It's more like a hollow deflection since anyone not in their 30s would tell you that 35 is old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:03 AM
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It's just the natural progression of things. Women are increasingly interested in AI boyfriends too. At this point I'm beyond caring. Just let people do whatever makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:22 AM
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College, work, hobby group, club.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:06 AM
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Yes? Have you never see how much attention even the average woman gets in a social setting?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:02 AM
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And yet, most women don’t use dating apps despite this. Sure they don't. They have 10 other real life beta orbiters ready to go on a date with them if she so chooses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:50 AM
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The problem is many men treat dating apps as the most serious, biggest and most official form of dating while most women treat it as a light hearted thing on the side. Could this, perhaps, have anything to do with the fact that it's ten times easier for women to go on a date than for men? If you had a once in a year opportunity, you'd treat it pretty seriouls too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:46 AM
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You aren't special to an AI. You are nothing to an AI. You aren't special to a woman who has 10 other matches lined up in Tinder either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:30 AM
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It's called hypergamy. The red pill has lots and lots of reading material on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:57 PM
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Explain to me the logistics of Clavicular livestreaming for up to 9 hours a night and continuously having hordes of women fawning all over him without anyone ever going offscript?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:17 AM
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"It's fake ignore the evidence right in front of you" is a really hollow deflection that might have worked a decade ago but just doesn't cut it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:09 AM
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Sure thing videos of Clavicular effortlessly picking up women (even those who have boyfriends with them) don't exist in the dozens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:03 AM
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Sure thing. At the end of the day though, women will be giving unreasonable market power to the top 5% of men who fulfill those checklists and then they will go back online to complain about those 5% of men only wanting sex but not commitment. Giving someone monopoly power is a bad idea, who could have known?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:00 AM
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If this wasn't something that a lot of people were noticing in real life, there would still be no discussion to be had. Stuff that's 100% disconnected from reality doesn't get as big as all the Red Pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:56 AM
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We wouldn't be having this conversation if women generally showed that they really do love their (male) partners. Unfortunately there is reasonable doubt about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:24 AM
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Men's standards = don't be fat or a single mother. 2 things. Women's standards = 6 feet tall, 6 figures, 6 pack, do 60% of household chores, pay for 60% of household expenses. That's at the bare minimum. Can you see why men would think that having a 20 point checklist would be unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:19 AM
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People operate based on rational self-interest, not ill-defined categories like "good" and "bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:33 AM
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Women are strong and independent right up until they are perpetual victims and have no agency when they choose to date a guy with 10 different glaring red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:14 AM
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Putting people into "bad" / "good" categories is such childish shit it genuinely scares me that so many adults view the world in those terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 03:14 AM
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It's just the natural progression of dating discourse. Evidence that looks are by far the most important thing is overwhelming, with status following closely behind. Even mainstream dating advice is all about looks now. What's the point of circular debates about personality when everyone is over that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:35 AM
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Shocker, men don't want to be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:42 AM
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That's more caused by women than men, no? Women are no longer satisfied with an ATM husband who caters to all of their whims. Gotta bring top 5% looks as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:39 AM
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I had to make up stories about having to work overtime while I was actually over at a friend's house so that I could play video games in peace for a couple of hours lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:23 AM
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The result is the same. Women should be glad that men are willing to put up with all of that shit just because they like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:15 AM
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Video games have always been the number one source of conflict and drama in every relationship I've had. It's just... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:14 AM
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It's actually the opposite. If men were truly misogynistic, they wouldn't put up with even half the shit that women do when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:34 AM
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Next time women complain about men not caring about their personalities and hobbies, say that you want to date a woman who likes video games and anime. See how quickly they will get mad. They don't actually want you to like them for their personalities because they know that it will not end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:32 AM
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More like there will be one or two honest answers while everyone else will be deflecting or giving non-answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:49 PM
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Did you see smut novels that women read? Minotaur milking farm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:36 PM
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I don't think you get how exceptional a person who is top 1% in height, top 10% in fitness and top 10% in intelligence is. This is one in a thousand if not more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:42 PM
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They just have no clue what they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:34 AM
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If you are top 1% in height, top 10% in fitness and top 10% in intelligence in a way that shows (status or money), you won't have to approach women because they will be the ones swarming all over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:51 AM
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And each and every single one of those things you listed is driven by biological and chemical processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:42 AM
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"Complex phenomenon" is the most unscientific bullshit ever. Phenomena appear complex because there are gaps in knowledge or the tools to study something are not there. The more variables you add to your explanation, the more irrelevant noise you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:41 AM
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Me smiling in the office does not mean that I enjoy being there. A lot of relationships are pure misery where one or both partners settled for each other or are extracting resources. Love is a chemical reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:36 AM
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It is closer to a religion than ideology. Like ancient civilizations ascribing mythical and unknowable qualities to fire and lightning. The blue pill treats attraction as something unknowable. The red pill treats it as a science. There are theories, hypotheses, observations and rules. A red piller will tell you that based on data, you need to go to the gym and earn more money to increase your SMV. A blue piller will reject the concept of SMV and say that everyone is different and you can't guara…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:54 AM
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This argument falls apart because convicted criminals have hordes of women who go wild over them (as long as they are attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:27 AM
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Actually he accidentally described autosexuality. He hit too close to the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:23 PM
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That's an unhelpful mindset to have. It's like saying "we did everything right but things still went wrong so this stuff is fundamentally unknowable". Nothing would ever get done if you applied it to science, politics and the economy. The evidence that being more attractive and more affluent results in higher quality dates is plainly visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:28 AM
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You want what you want. You might not get it, but no one gets to rule over your attraction. If you can’t attract someone you like, you deal with it: improve yourself, stay single, or settle. And even if you do improve, there’s still no guarantee you’ll get what you want, and you still don’t “deserve” it. How can you both criticize the concept of leagues and then reinvent them within the same post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:19 AM
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Lol it's not going underground, it has become mainstream. People aren't dumb and you can only deny something for so long until overwhelming evidence shows otherwise. Clavicular and Jack Doherty are not some unknown niche streamers. They have massive followings. Even women on TikTok are outright admitting that looks are the most important thing. This sub is stuck like 10 years in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:08 AM
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Once you filter out asexual women, demisexual women and women with wild hormonal imbalances, the rest actually do have a healthy sex drive. If you are a straight man, you have to filter out closeted lesbians too. The trouble is that the aforementioned categories of women project their lack of a sex drive onto everyone else and think that it is completely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:33 PM
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Let's pretend for a second that this hypothetical person exists: Attracted to good men, whatever that means Won't date violent offenders out of principle Won't use you for your money Will have genuine desire for you What % of population do you think that is? Most people are assholes about one thing or another. It's a question of how much asshattery you are willing to put up with for the sake of a relationship. Looking for the perfect person (who may or may not even exist) will result in getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:10 PM
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Imagine this. Your boyfriend / husband tells you: "babe, you are cool and all but you are just not hot enough for me to put 100% of my effort into this relationship."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:16 PM
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Dating someone you don't consider to be exceptional is emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:03 PM
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These posts are getting increasingly more pointless. There are some nuances of how humans interact that you are either completely oblivious to or are pretending to not understand. Context, subtext etc. I can't explain to you in a reply why people choose to not tell the complete truth, omit certain things or imply stuff instead of saying it outright. This is stuff that people spend years learning as teens and young adults. We can't condense it for you. If you are genuinely confused, try to find a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:32 PM
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You are defeating your own argument. Agreeing that some men get exceptional treatment while others get shit is exactly what the red pill says.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:28 PM
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OP has views on sex that are not reflective of the vast majority of the population and wants shitposters and trolls on Reddit to process them for her instead of speaking to a professional sexologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:25 PM
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I like how the narrative is evolving. The mainstream is finally catching up to the fact that women find most men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:35 PM
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Astounding lack of self-awareness on your part. You care so much that you donate to charities. In other words, you aren't doing anything, just giving a nominal amount of money to intermediaries who might do something (more likely than not they'll end up embezzling it and buying sports cars). Not one of these brave keyboard warriors is going to be there to stop people from actually getting hurt. No, they'll chime in from the safety of their keyboards after the fact to make themselves feel better …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:26 AM
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Serial gangbanger doesn't give a single damn that someone thinks that he is a "bad man". He is going to continue doing what he does no matter what. IF he ends up in prison (and that's a big IF), he may even end up using it as an opportunity to get jacked, build up street cred and start a hustle to boost his "career". Law enforcement and judges can't rewind time to prevent a crime from being committed. Neither do they give a damn really, they are just being paid to do a job. No one but you will e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:57 PM
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A person lying intentions and views on sex is alot more nefarious than someone who lacks social skills. Do you speak the absolute truth and nothing but in 100% of cases? If you find someone annoying, do you say that to their face? That includes talking about sex before having sex. It's called flirting. Normal people flirt, not discuss logistics. "I want to have sex with you" is one of the best ways to instantly destroy attraction through sheer social awkwardness. Being strangers. Wanting a deep …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:55 PM
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Because saying "I want sex" will get people dumping you not even because the feeling isn't mutual, but because it demonstrates extreme lack of social awareness and tact. SOCIAL. AWARENESS. AND. TACT. Date = screening for sexual compatibility. If you are both consenting adults and find each other sexually attractive, there is no reason not to have sex by date 3 unless you are into some weird shit. SOCIAL. AWARENESS. AND. TACT. How hard is it to understand that some things are implied rather than …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:17 PM
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If women start dating a wider variety of men, the top 5% of super attractive men lose their insane market power and have to start behaving. Look up how monopolies vs competitive markets behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:59 PM
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Take mansplaining as an example. It exists because women respond badly to criticism or instructions. Dude-to-dude communication can work like "dude you suck at this, you are doing it wrong, here's how you do it" and then everyone goes back to work without being offended. With women you have to mince your words and think very carefully about what you are going to say because they are going to freak the fuck out. Want to be talked to like dudes talk to other dudes? Then learn to communicate like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:34 AM
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No. What I mean is that women act condescending and think that the same solutions that work for women will also work for men. It's like women look at men and it just does not compute for them that men are different physically, mentally and emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 09:16 AM
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Not at all. I think that women should exercise some of that empathy they are always talking about and try to understand that men are different from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:48 AM
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Why else do we have suicide levels, addiction levels, social isolation and violence levels this high for men? Because statistics are being intentionally skewed to make it seem like women are doing better than men. Humans should not behave destructive towards themselves and each other as a species if they are happy and healthy. Being sheltered and not understanding realpolitik is another example of women being ridiculously privileged and not even being aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:58 AM
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I already did. “Do you think men should bottle up their emotions” is nonsensical? It's nonsensical because men don't have a choice. They either learn to deal with their emotions or virtually everyone considers them to be a colossal fuck up and no amount of moralizing will ever change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:58 AM
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Once again, you are showing that you, as a woman, just don't get it. If I can keep calm under pressure in a high-stakes situation, I don't feel sad because I had a bad day at work. I shrug it off and move on. I don't need to whine and cry to Brad and Sarah. It's not something you switch on and off on demand. You are either emotionally tough and don't freak out easily, or you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:52 AM
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The question is nonsensical. You are speaking from a privileged female point of view - you can afford to navel-gaze about whether not expressing emotions is an issue or not because you are a women and no one will ever count on you to get people out of trouble when shit hits the fan. Men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:19 AM
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If you can't get a grip and act with a cool head in a stressful situation, it could very well go very badly for you and the people who are counting on you. Women can only afford to moralize about emotions in the first place because they will almost never be put into a situation where not being able to regulate their emotions will result in bad things happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:12 AM
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Most women struggle to even flip a mattress, moving something like a fridge or a washing machine becomes a huge logistical problem. Carrying something heavy up several flights of stairs is out of the question. Repairing appliances is rare, but you won't be able to do it unless you have prior experience. You won't even get past disassembling something, let alone replacing components or soldering. Being able to fix something and keep it working for another couple of years is the result of hundreds…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:53 AM
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You can't "fix" this. Women don't want to date weak men who have a mental breakdown when faced with a problem. Men don't want to be friends with weak men who won't have their back when faced with a problem. Being able to freely express emotions is women's privilege because no one really expects women to take charge and fix a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:45 AM
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On the other hand, men don't call women bad partners for not wanting to mow the lawn, assemble and move furniture or repair electrical appliances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 04:30 AM
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They aren't doing nothing though, no? They are constantly trying to push their woke BS and "own the chuds".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:36 PM
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"Objectification" is something that everyone does. A fictional woman in a video game is no more objectifying that the latest BookTok smut novel about a minotaur milking farm and yet only one is subjected to scrutiny. You have to look at the real reason why women hate hot video game characters. Which is that they make women feel like they have competition for their collection of simps. That's when I know that the entire "toxic masculinity" is a bunch of BS peddled by bad actors and hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:32 PM
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Because feminists bundle the bad things that everyone can agree on with normal things that all guys like. Don't be a chauvinistic misogynist pig... ok. But also you are a bad man if you enjoy hot video game characters. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:29 PM
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They are gonna say various homophobic things to him / of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:27 PM
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That's the big problem, most men really don't do any of that. Women just chase the same 20% that do and then project their experiences on the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:52 AM
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Yes, and that's the essence of the issue. Fulfilling women's checklists for dating is hard. Lying to make it seems like you fulfill the checklist is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:20 PM
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At the risk of sounding offensive, you have views on sex that are not reflective of the vast majority of people. Most people just have sex because it feels good and don't overthink it. They don't play complicated mind games or attach any super deep meaning to it. You are not going to get anything out of making thread number #1337 about this. Most people here can't relate to your views on sex and are not qualified to make arguments that you are looking for. If how most people approach sex bothers…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:15 PM
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If you are a normal working adult, your social circle is: your coworkers. that random friend or two you kept contact with since high school / college. your extended family. sometimes random friends of friends. Your coworkers are likely to include both Jimmy the hardworking family man and Jack the career psychopath. Same for your high school / college friends, there's Timmy the local alcoholic and John the garage band guy. You are describing college girl / Tumblr clique shit, not how normal adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:37 PM
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Should I give you links to 100 books that are like that? Or maybe the millions of smut works on AO3?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:15 AM
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Explain this then Morning Glory Milking Farm 14k reviews on this alone. And it's not even one of the more disturbing ones that make people think twice before leaving a review.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:09 AM
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Be real, it's not 1.5 sex scenes in 300 pages. It's easily at least 30k words of the most hardcore disturbing BDSM shit you can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:02 AM
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Quality of the sub is going down since it's just gaslighting and ragebaiting central.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:00 AM
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If reading smut novels is a hobby, then so is hentai.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:58 AM
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I love the evolution of the pill culture. From the red pill to the black pill to the final boss of dating, "women just don't find most men attractive" pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:52 AM
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It's not 2 women with 2 different opinions. It's the same woman. When getting half / fully naked is beneficial, it's empowering. When being an oppressed victim is beneficial, it's dehumanizing / objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:50 AM
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There is no contradiction. It's the same as women calling the guys on the Tea app "ugly" while they are legitimate 6ft 6figures 6pack Chads (who got to date plenty of women). If they can't get a guy / it doesn't work out, they rationalize that he was ugly anyway and they didn't want him. It's impressive the lengths they will go to to protect their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 05:16 AM
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If you don't mind dating older women, cougars and sugar mommas are infinitely easier to date, will appreciate you and might even give you money. It's basically flipping the dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:57 AM
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Lol the big deal is that men are okay with dating down. Men don't mind dating a woman who earns less, is less attractive than them, less educated, less accomplished. Women will absolutely never date down. Men got kicked out of both the job market and the dating market. Btw women don't want an equal partner. They want a domestic slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:49 AM
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This subreddit every day. "I went to my Sunday baking club and would you believe it, there was a gigabillionaire Chad waiting there for me!" is what women's dating advice sounds like here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:58 AM
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They regurgitate the plot to the latest dark romantasy vampire werewolf novel they have read on BookTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:15 AM
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Complaining about bad milk is kind of low on the scale of annoying complaints. It could be so much worse. Also where did I call her "useless and dumb"? Someone can be ok 99% of the time and then act wildly irrational for some reason. That's what guys mean when they complain about women complaining. I know that I could fix her problem in 5 minutes. She knows that she could fix her own problem in 5 minutes. But then she wouldn't have anything and the self-pity party would have to be put on hold un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:43 PM
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Wasn't there a post on the old red pill subreddit about this? Women enjoy the rollercoaster of extreme emotional low followed by extreme emotional high.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:33 PM
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The milk has gone bad = go out and buy new milk, eat a different breakfast or don't eat breakfast at all. Doesn't take long at all to fix. The drain is clogged = grab the plunger and get to work. There is no need to assign blame or complain about how inconvenient it is. Most of these problems can be fixed in the time it takes to talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:59 PM
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It's projection. They know what their own "locker room talk" sounds like and assume that it's the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:53 PM
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I would rather go and fix what needs fixing instead of listening to someone's self-pity party, especially since I will still have to go and fix it after the self-pity party is over, just a whole lot later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:28 PM
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Dealing with women's problems is extremely frustrating. Like I get it, you don't want advice or solutions, you just want sympathy or whatever. But it's difficult for me to sympathize about a problem that I could fix in 5 minutes and everyone could just move on. I wish women would articulate their need for emotional intimacy in a healthy manner instead of turning every tiny inconvenience into an entire thing. It may be fun for you but it's stressful for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:59 AM
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A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:12 AM
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Yeah instead of the simple but nutritious option, she'll buy overpriced big brand name foods and spend twice if not thrice as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:24 AM
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Women account for the majority of consumer spending. Unless she earns more than you by a good margin, you'll be losing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:02 AM
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The entire Hasan Piker situation is hilarious because the left's darling is a typical tall Chad who can get away with abusing his dog on stream because he happens to be hot. You can't make this up. All that tough talk about being a "good person"... it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:28 AM
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If women had the same level of testosterone as men, they'd understand why sex is so important for men. In fact, women who hop on steroids often report suddenly having a crazy sex drive. That's the default for men. Once again, it's not a matter of culture or interpretation. There are real biological differences between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:15 AM
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This is why people should only date someone they genuinely like. If you like someone, you don't have to worry about all of the gender bullshit. You bring your best because you like them, and they bring their best because they like you. All of this pill nonsense is the result of men dating women they don't like for access to sex, and women dating men they don't like for use as a cash cow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:39 AM
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Lol you don't even have to do that. Just introduce yourself as her date and they will tell you everything without you even needing to ask. People can't resist gossiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:55 PM
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Ask her friends. Always a good way to find out stuff that she won't tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:43 PM
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If she doesn't want to have sex within the first couple of dates, there's 2 possibilities: She is just not that attracted to you. This makes for a bad relationship. She has already decided that she is fine with strategically withholding sex for whatever reason. This is not just a bad relationship, this is a relationship that will destroy your self-esteem and make you miserable. It's better to just move on and start seeing a woman who doesn't treat sex as a bargaining chip. Abundance mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:39 PM
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women don’t That's not quite it. Most heterosexual women like sex with men. If you have to explain to a woman why people want to have heterosexual sex, she is either asexual or very deep in the closet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:32 PM
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I dont like having sex with someone unless I am in love with them Congratulations, you are demisexual. The vast majority of people aren't demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:27 PM
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Everything you are describing can be found in a friendship. Friends make time to see each other, friends participate in each other's hobbies, friends get gifts for each other. Relationships involve sex. If there is no sex, there is no relationship (unless both partners are asexual but I've been told that even asexual people have sex so I don't know how that works). In all of your posts, your ideal of a relationships is just two people being best friends. That is not what most guys want out of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:02 PM
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Didn't know you needed a college degree to write about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:33 PM
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they don’t see women as fully human. That sounds like a very basic cognitive error that only a malignant narcissist would ever make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:45 PM
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As a man, I have no idea what "seeing someone as an object" means. I'm going to assume that it's something that affects people with negative empathy who are literally unable to put themselves in someone else's shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:44 AM
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Humans are not biologically programmed for modern city life. Small village life where everyone knows each other, yes. Going out clubbing with a bunch of strangers = no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:40 AM
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Good posture shouldn't compensate for completely ignoring someone and then saying "I wasn't listening, what?". That should be the end of a date regardless of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:16 AM
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There is no objective way to measure social skills. Social skills are how other people interpret you and those interpretations can change a lot based on other factors. My experience with social skills is this: Before going to the gym: Being shy and awkward = completely ignored. Being sociable and outgoing = rejected. After going to the gym: Being shy and awkward = people start conversations with me regardless and make an effort to get to know me even when I'm actively ignoring them. Being sociab…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:07 AM
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They're scared for their safety but intentionally slamming into someone twice their size is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:57 AM
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A lot of them are asexual and aromantic which makes discussions about relationships really frustrating. It's like talking to an alien asking "why human want fuck?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:40 AM
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You are ignoring the fact that 44% of women voted for Trump. Are they red pilled too?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:56 PM
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The most important lesson here is that if you have to fight an uphill battle for every crumb of attention and intimacy even at the beginning of a relationship, it will only get worse with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:54 PM
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That's how you end up with dysfunctional relationships where people are taking out their past traumas on their current partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:53 PM
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Now flip the sides. Imagine if a guy said that he won't be emotionally vulnerable with a woman, get invested in her hobbies and interests or buy gifts for her because his ex was bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:13 PM
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Guys generally don't have a problem with women applying strict standards when it comes to dating. What they have a problem with is when the same woman who has had FWBs, situationships and hookups is now making you jump through 10 hoops and fulfill a 100 point checklist to get the same treatment. It's a very clear message that she is not that attracted to you, she sees you as the safe guy, you are her backup plan etc. No one wants to be that guy. Same goes for the "she has learned from experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:35 PM
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This would be true if women applied the same standard of attractiveness to both the hookup guy and the relationship guy. But that's not how women usually frame it. The most common story is that she's had her fun and is now looking to settle down. Hard not to be upset when you're the guy she would have never hooked up with during her fun phase, but will now settle for you as long as you fulfill a much longer checklist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:38 AM
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She can walk away any time. It's not like she doesn't have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:10 AM
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He promises to do better every time or just gaslights her and denies everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:45 AM
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You are on the queer spectrum, which is a minority of the population and not relevant to most heterosexual men trying to date heterosexual women. If anything it just proves that exceptions to the rule are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:33 AM
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That's why the red pill gives advice on how to become Chad? Like wtf do you expect? That they are going to be natural premade Chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:32 AM
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No, they’re rarely in places where hook ups happen. You're still refusing to answer where they are. If they are hiding behind their keyboard and posting on social media about how virtuous they are, they are irrelevant for dating. You are never going to meet them. Red pill is about working with the women you actually encounter on a day to day basis, not mythical unicorns who are "not like the other women".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:15 AM
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The most successful guy I know has a main girlfriend, a side chick and a rotation of FWBs. He may not know red pill terminology, but he is spinning plates all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:33 AM
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Lol actually it's the opposite. Red pillers know that women will abandon all of their checklists and morals and hop in bed with the first Chad who will show them even a crumb of attention. The very point of red pill is so that you become that guy and not the guy who is her backup plan after she gets dumped by Chad and starts looking for a provider to settle down with. Women have standards and checklists for Beta Billy. Guys justifiably don't want to be Beta Billy. Also like I said in the other t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:25 AM
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Sure it isn't a job. It's just what healthy couples do. Now what if Stacy from the office tells Jack that he is cute and asks him if he wants to grab a drink after work? Will he want to spend time with her or the nagging wife at home who is making him do chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:52 PM
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Believe it or not, kids can pick up on the fact that their parents are in a dysfunctional relationship with no intimacy. What sort of role models are they being for their kids if one of the partners acts like they find the other partner disgusting and repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:27 PM
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And gay divorce rates are the lowest. The story is actually very simple. Women expect dudes to do all of the work in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:25 PM
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And here women are accusing men of objectifying them, only to turn around and say that sex with another person is the same as masturbating /facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:19 PM
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Assuming she isn't going to spend 150k of those 200k on designer handbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:17 PM
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You can do both. Just get a side chick if the wife doesn't want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:16 PM
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Most guys who aren't Chad can become Chadlite by going to the gym. It's a much better use of their time than stuff like "just be yourself", "join a hobby club" or "be emotionally open".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:06 PM
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They dont want to bring it up now because they dont have a counter that people's halo effect doesn't extend to dangerous people. Clavicular ran someone over in his douchetruck. 0 consequences. Jack Doherty is an infamous pimp. 0 consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:52 PM
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Around people who care about personality and morals. Okay, so where is that? Shopping malls? Clubs? Offices? Festivals? McDonald's? They're the ones explaining ... I have never, ever heard anyone talking about any of this in real life, which is why I said that these people seem to only exist on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:39 PM
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People who care about personality and morals don’t want to be around other people who don’t care about personality and morals. Show me those people. Where are they? Are they hiding in their bedrooms and scrolling on social media? People in the real world care about tangible goals like paying their bills and getting their work done before deadlines, not "good people" vs "bad people" red vs blue tribal nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:29 PM
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Have you met people? No one cares about personality or morals except for perpetually online social justice warriors (and even then they actually care about people agreeing with them, not genuine moral virtue).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:17 PM
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This is it. Attractive guy who is shy and quiet = dark, brooding and mysterious. Attractive guy who is loud and outgoing = assertive, confident and sociable. People like to mistakenly attribute their success to their personality when it's something else (looks, money or status) doing most of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:15 PM
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If the husband is emotionally checked out of a relationship, in most cases it's not the kid's fault, it's the wife's fault. It's really lame when women try to use their kids as blame deflectors to rationalize why they stopped putting effort into the relationship. If you're not gonna make your husband feel like he is part of the family, don't be surprised when he starts to prefer to play video games and hang out with people who do give a damn instead of washing the dishes for a wife who treats hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:41 AM
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Guys here are on that nice guy bullshit Guys are trying to make sense of the dating market. Not every woman is dating a criminal gangbanger but all criminal gangbangers have a never-ending rotation of women thirsting after them. So what's up with that? What are they doing right that the average dude is doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:52 PM
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See. Guys who think like that are quite fine being in the presence of shitty people. Which is why they’re probably around women who are OK being in the presence of shitty people. Because women who aren’t tolerant to pieces of shit are not going to be around other pieces of shit or people they know who are tolerable of pieces of shit. Can you explain what's the deal with the "good person" stuff? It's a rather oversimplified way of viewing the world. The vast majority of people flip between acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:40 PM
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If being an asshole didn't work, then neither negging nor the dread game would work. Unfortunately, both are very effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:03 PM
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in line with prior research, we find that there is a strong positive association between sex partners and antisocial behavior. OP, can you please show us a video or a case study where a man does what women say that they want a man to do, and it actually results in dating success? I want a video where a guy is open about his feelings and it results in dates. Or where he attends a feminist rally and it results in dates. Something like that. I can find you videos where guys act like complete asshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:38 PM
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That's why I don't plan or pay for the first date. Immediately filters out all of the women who need to be "provided for". It's 2026, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:59 PM
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Gf and wife’s don’t like being your 200% therapist because you have no friends and dump all your problems in one person, that’s reasonable. They also don’t like hearing about your suicidal thoughts or childhood trauma on the first date. They expect them to be adults Okay good. Talking to women about emotional stuff is tricky, you never know if they are going to think you are talking about it in an acceptable way or not. So why bother at all? I'd rather not talk to women about my emotions if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:44 PM
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but it avoids dealing with deep emotions snd encourages men not to depend emotionally on a women nor show any emotions to their partners. Because women keep a tally of how much "emotional labor" they do if you say anything that doesn't sound like macho stoic talk. That's the best case scenario, worst case she loses attraction right away. Women have only themselves to blame if they have conditioned men to be emotionally unavailable. It also teaches men that women don’t have thoughts n feelings li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:08 PM
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I honestly don't even know what to say about your 2nd paragraph while staying civil. Like really? Why don't you go on a bodybuilding forum and ask them why they are talking about bodybuilding online instead of lifting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:57 PM
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You can go on YouTube right now and find tons of videos of dudes applying basic RP ideas and getting tons of dates...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:48 PM
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Because if you were actually able to BE Redpill, you would have never needed TRP in the first place. The irrational fear that some people have of "counterfeit" Chads who needed to Red Pill to succeed is really amusing. Like wtf, are you really blaming people for needing advice instead of "just" knowing what to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:32 PM
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This makes perfect sense if you are familiar with how all-female cliques, social groups and workplaces function. High conformism and immediate expulsion of anyone who goes against the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:25 PM
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do you deny the existence of a gender pay gap(for the same career) This rests on the assumption that men and women in the same position have the same output, which is just not true. You don't even need to start digging deep for reasons why, women taking more sick days is a surface-level explanation that already begins to account for some of the gap. motherhood penalty They are not oppressed by their biology. burdened with more unpaid domestic labor Either self-inflicted because they do busywork …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:27 PM
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In that case it's either status or money doing most of the work, or he is simply the least bad out of all the options available to her. "Charming" is once again a post-hoc rationalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:11 PM
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Women in North America and the EU.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:06 PM
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That is not how this works at all. If you look good enough, you can say whatever and still get that date. If you don't, you can play it perfect and still get rejected. "Charisma" is a post-hoc rationalization because people don't want to admit what they are really looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:03 PM
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They are not actually being oppressed. They are claiming to be oppressed, which is a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:58 PM
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Just go on Mumsnet and read all the stories about how they are thirsting after younger men because the guy they settled for is boring. If you want an insight into what women actually think, read forums where women talk to other women instead of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:51 AM
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He's trying to pull off both the douchey look and the nice guy look. That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:58 AM
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His mistake is keeping the shirt on in the gym selfie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:49 AM
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I don't really understand how this is relevant to attracting women. Maybe if she already finds you attractive and you are in a relationship, sure. Even in your examples you are describing women who were already attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:04 PM
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Europe should be a case study of what happens when you let dumbass activists run countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 04:54 AM
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Then why isn't it the #1 piece of advice in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:02 PM
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It is relevant when criminal men are some of the few who never seem to have any problems dating whatsoever. What are they doing right that everyone else is doing wrong? Why does a drug addict straight out of jail have women fawning over him and trying to rescue him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:32 PM
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Yeah no shit. The point here is that shitty behaviors as an attractive dude are better than non-shitty behaviors. For most women, their ideal is a dude who is a raging asshole to everyone except her (and even then he has to be a bit of an asshole towards her as well so that she will get to play out her "I can fix him" fantasy).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:26 PM
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So guys see that and mistakenly assume that this arrogance and shitty behavior IS WHAT MAKES THEM ATTRACTIVE. When in reality it's usually other aspects that actually make them attractive. This is not quite right. There are plenty of explicitly shitty behaviors that women find attractive, such as negging and the dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:19 PM
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Make more money = solid and valid dating advice for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:07 PM
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I just wish more people would recognize this fact and stop asking men to communicate the way women do. Both ways are valid and should be acceptable. Let men have their banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:52 PM
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Their definition of emotional intelligence = listening to their trauma-dumping and validating their feelings. If you offer some kind of feedback instead of passively affirming them, you are done for.
/r/MensRights23/01/26 06:49 PM
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But the reason why the same topics get posted over and over again is the same. Example: it should be plenty obvious to everyone by now that height matters. But if you make a statement like that, you will have tons of people trying to dispute it despite all evidence to the contrary. Nothing of value is gained in that discussion. Instead of moving on to a more in-depth discussion (how much does height matter, can other factors compensate for height, is taller always better or are there diminishing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:26 PM
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They come up over and over again for a very good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:19 PM
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There are often no benefits to being kind, caring and supportive, but a lot of benefits to being a rude asshole. And those are not admirable traits. They are admirable in theory to internet social justice warriors. In real life, nobody will care if you are kind and caring or rude and assholish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:42 PM
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A traditionally masculine man can also be kind, caring and supportive, they're not mutually exclusive. Can, but doesn't have to be. A man's value is determined by his success. Everything else is completely coincidental. Every man can be kind, caring and supportive. But not every kind, caring and supportive man can be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:32 PM
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Big goalpost move there. From Iraq and Afghanistan to 20 countries lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:29 PM
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Because normal guys (not chronically online keyboard warriors) are going to naturally gravitate towards the Andrew Tates of the world instead of Mr. Nice Guy feminist ally. That makes blue pillers uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:02 PM
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This is stupid. People don't become out of control monsters because of alcohol. If someone starts beating up their kids and wife because of alcohol, they already had those thoughts to begin with. A bad day at work could set them off just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:00 PM
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How many men? 0.5% of global population? Why are you hyperfocusing on them instead of the other 99.5% that consider them to be barbarians?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:58 PM
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Big butt craze that didn't exist anywhere else in the world. Interesting. Very, very interesting how you have to bring up obscure edge cases to argue against general beauty standards. Btw, the fact that women have a wider range of body types that are considering to be attractive is news to no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:57 PM
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Yeah and that guy is going to get 0 matches on dating apps. Way to push more guys towards the red / black pill abyss. Role models reflect what society values. As long as women prefer traditionally masculine men, nothing will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:52 PM
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Women wanted to stop their abusive husbands from beating them due to alcohol (rightly so) In other words, women don't like it when men have something nice (alcohol) and use their perceived safety as an excuse to ban it. Glad to see that nothing has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:50 PM
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And are considered to be uncivilized by men in the rest of the world. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:48 PM
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So you think they got scared of women? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:36 PM
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Some beauty standards change. Others don't. Typical modern gymbro standard is exactly the same as Greek sculptures from 2k years ago. Same goes for body hair, most famous paintings have people with little to no body hair. Skinny jeans are the worst argument to bring up since they were displaced by leggings that are even tighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:34 PM
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You don't need to be a genius to figure out that shaved legs look better. Just google shaved and unshaved legs and you have your answer. Men don't shave their legs because it's bothersome and takes a lot of time, not because it wouldn't look good. Also google male fitness models. They have clean-shaven legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 02:03 PM
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Before OnlyFans, seeing someone you know in porn was almost unheard of. Thanks to social contagion, you can now end up seeing all of your social circle on OnlyFans. To me that's a big win.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:31 PM
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It’s crazy how when guys on ppd talk about “women” they actually mean a small subgroup of young women they are attracted to. I think that is what creates a lot of disconnect and confusion. Men don’t even see women they are not attracted to as women. Older women weren't young at some point and couldn't have dieted down to benefit from pretty privilege? What? Can you show me the data showing a stupidly high percentage of young women creating sexual content on only fans? https://np.reddit.com/r/the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:29 PM
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98% include age demographics who grew up before OnlyFans took off. Plus a lot of unattractive women who know that it won't work. If you only take a look at attractive women in the 20-30 age range, the % gets stupidly high. Porn is neither bad nor immoral. It just is. If you admit that you watch porn, most people will just shrug and move on. Nobody cares much (although that didn't use to be the case). Now creating porn is next level cringe and will get you banned from most public-facing careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:09 PM
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2% is not a tiny percentage given what they are doing lol. Most people would be outraged if you told them that 2% of women do sex work. Used to be something that you weren't exposed to unless you went to the bad part of town at night. Now if you are at college, you know at least several women with OnlyFans accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:01 PM
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Only the top 0.1% of OF creators get 76% of revenues Some are making bank, true, but the others are posting content for chump change. It's a big win for guys, porn has never been cheaper or more accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:54 AM
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Going on dates with cougars and sugar mamas in your 30s is quite literally winning at life. I really mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:28 PM
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Then why is it effective? Why do women like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:22 PM
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The funny part if that if you try to match on hobbies and shared interests, the "get to know her, bro" crowd will get angry too because matching with women based on interests is far more exclusionary than matching based purely on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:21 PM
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They didn't fail though? If they talk about their douchebag ex, guys immediately know that that guy scored. So he didn't fail because he already got what he wanted. An abusive asshole who can get into relationships with women is more successful on the dating market than the nice guy who gets no action.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:37 PM
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It's relevant though? If you have such restrictive criteria for whom you find attractive, you can't afford to also filter for whether they are good on top of that. Women prioritize looks over personality, so deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:36 PM
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It's hard to care when women find only 20% of men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:30 PM
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Most fundamental insights in social sciences come from identifying simple relationships that can be replicated across different samples. Not beating something to death with a dozen variables. That's why "women like tall men" is an important insight while "women are not a monolith" is noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:27 PM
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I try very hard not to facepalm when people who have very obviously never done science of any kind start throwing scientific terminology around in such an amateurish manner. It keeps getting harder and harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:59 PM
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It's not just here. Women do that in real life too. They write an entire fanfic about someone just based on their initial impression and ignore all evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:57 PM
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It's borderline impossible to get someone to admit that they are bad at something. Doubly so if you are talking to a woman. At most you will get some deflections.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:35 PM
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OP, do you think you will get any honest answers to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:50 PM
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I'm also glad that we agree that neither men nor women should put themselves in a situation where they are vulnerable to being abused by the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:34 AM
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It's a deflection. All women are like that. Almost every dude has a story about trying to be emotionally vulnerable with a woman and getting a negative reaction like that. It's not random or a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:58 AM
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Example: I told my best friend about some things I was struggling with. She switched topics almost right away. Later she told me that that conversation made her uncomfortable because she thought I was cool and badass, not someone who struggled with things. This is not some random woman I was talking to. This is literally a woman I have been best friends with for decades. At least she was honest about how that conversation made her feel. Not thinking that men are pathetic for having their own str…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:10 AM
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Biological imperatives are far more powerful than any of that. It's like food. When you are hungry, you stop caring about societal and cultural factors. Same with attraction. When you are attracted to someone, you don't care about socio-economics, mental health or values.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:00 AM
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Sure, that's all fine and valid. But that's y'all problem. That isn't on women to solve or address. If men start valuing themselves and stop putting up with women who treat them as beta bucks, it's going to become women's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:54 AM
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It's simple. If you listen to women, no coherent narrative emerges. It's all just noise, contradictory information and appeals to emotion. There is nothing to work with. The Red Pill at least provides a coherent narrative that men can work with. It may not be 100% correct. It may actually be very incorrect but it leads to the right results. Women say 1000 different things. I don't know which ones are important and which are secondary. I don't know if any of them are important. I don't know how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:41 AM
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Diversity, equity and inclusion is when admissions reach 100% women. Men are neither diverse nor equitable or inclusive. /s in case it isn't obvious.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:34 AM
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Therapy is not inherently bad. It's just that the field has been completely taken over by feminism. They basically treat men as defective women instead of trying to understand male psychology and help men. In fact there are many such cases where activities that used to be predominantly male or 50/50 got taken over by feminism.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:31 AM
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Yeah, I have lived in a high-crime area for most of my life so I know what I'm talking about. People who didn't want to get in trouble didn't go out clubbing past midnight. "It's all equally sketchy" is absolutely cooked logic that people use to justify their own inability to assess risks. Walking to the pizza shop in broad daylight is not the same as going to gangbang town at 2AM. Everyone I know who has gotten into trouble always did so because they were where they very obviously shouldn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:34 PM
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1 criminal gangbanger can easily date dozens of women. Hence the "are we dating the same guy" phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:20 PM
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Massive flaw in this logic. People who live in the hood don't go out looking for trouble. Women regularly go to the sketchiest club in town way past midnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:10 PM
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"By-standers" are not good people. The standard for being a "good person" is being set so ridiculously high that the only rational response is to stop giving a damn about what other people think about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:59 PM
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Could've fooled me with how many women date men with criminal records.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:55 PM
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Some women go out of their way to interact with the worst men possible, creating this skewed impression of men as a whole. But don't you dare say they take actual safety precautions instead of vilifying men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:55 PM
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Raw attraction does not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:09 AM
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Yeah and guess what, a $1000 gift card really works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:28 AM
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Oh please, you only have yourselves to blame for that. Whenever there is a conversation about attraction, women prefer to gaslight men about nonsense like personality instead of saying what they really want. What's the problem? The gaslighting was a bit too successful and you are unhappy that men can't read your minds if you won't say what you want? And whenever there is a rare voice of reason telling men what women really find attractive, you all do your best to shout them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 09:25 AM
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and their wants and desires are not considered or met because men have not been socialised to meet them. Nah this is just not it at all. They are impossible to meet because they keep creeping up. If you go above and beyond at satisfying some woman's wants, it will just become her new baseline and she will want more. I have enough relationship experience to know how this particular song and dance works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:47 AM
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Lmao the UK propaganda game has a secret ending where you join team Amelia. You can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:27 AM
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What about non-dating issues? For example, I don't like it when franchises that I enjoy get reworked to appeal to women. I think it should be valid to be mad when the things that you like are changed to appeal to another demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:44 AM
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Are those countries inconsequential because they make bad policy decisions? Or can they afford to make bad policy decisions because they are inconsequential? It's an important distinction to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:08 AM
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But that’s why men are responsible for everything of consequence in society. Plenty of women hold high positions in business and politics. I'm not saying this as a right/wrong statement. I'm saying this as a statement of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:57 AM
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When you live life on tutorial mode, living it on easy mode seems like an impossible challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:53 AM
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Anything over 200lb at low % BF is going into steroid abuse territory. Nothing normal about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:30 AM
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175lbs at 10% BF is not "victim weight" unless you are 7 foot or something. Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:25 AM
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Why jump to extremes? Here's a classic relationship example that I like to bring up. My ex was stressed and tired because of work. I wanted her to have the perfect weekend, so I woke up at 3AM and got to work doing all of the weekly cleaning and cooking so that she could just chill all day long and do whatever. Got done by 9AM just as she woke up. By 10AM she already found something to be unhappy and started yelling at me. Went to take a nap because I was tired from doing chores all night long. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:27 PM
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I don't care about politics. I don't want to date someone who cares about politics either. Starting political talk on 1st date means it just won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:11 PM
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Depends on what kind of questions she asks. Anything about finances or politics = I'm out. Personal questions about what I like, what my hobbies are etc. = good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:26 PM
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Very few of them take the time to go to therapy, read different viewpoints, look into some sociological study, get a better understanding of the dynamics, and work on themselves in every aspect. That’s a big problem, and it’s only going to get worse Yeah that's right. It is a big problem because none of that works. Dense "well-intentioned" blue pillers are funneling men into the black pill abyss because they refuse to tell them the truth. After all you wouldn't want to be a "bad person" who prom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:53 PM
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It's honestly shocking how many adults still view the world through good vs bad goggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:46 PM
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Yeah sorry I'd rather be friends with people who say slurs but have my back when it counts than people who virtue signal but then vanish into thin air at the first sign of trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:40 PM
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It's a problem, but it's not my problem. I can look beyond the superficial stuff and decide whether someone is really an asshole or not. I don't automatically put someone into the "problematic" category just because they have said a naughty word. I look at their actions, not their words. A guy who says racist stuff but has minority friends is less racist than a liberal white woman who preaches about how much she loves minorities but refuses to be friends with anyone but other liberal white women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:22 PM
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It's a kink for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:14 PM
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Nah the problem is that women care about outwards signalling of moral virtue rather than genuine moral virtue. It's like that meme. Some guy says a bunch of racist stuff. His friends group: some guy from Mexico, a Japanese guy and an African American dude. Woman calls him racist. Her friends group: all liberal white women. They just don't understand that the typical male way of communication is crude and abrasive. Even irreverent. They will think that a guy who said a naughty word is evil incarn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:09 PM
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Why is this topic being directed at the red pill? Direct it at women. They are the ones who end up in relationships with physically abusive ex-convict criminal gangbangers. And don't give me the "those are ghetto women" excuse. Go over to 2XC and they are all talking about their violent exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:59 PM
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She doesn't think about her Chad ex so much that she has literally made a post about him...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:44 PM
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Status + big paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:11 PM
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Sounds like a typical Chad visiting an office full of beta male feminist allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:57 PM
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Lillith at least calls out other women and feminists on bad behavior sometimes. Some of her posts are repetitive, sure, but it's not like there's a lot of quality content being posted anyway. Lillith can stir up interesting conversations and argue her points, which is more than can be said for most posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 06:05 AM
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Only if you are competing against other guys in that league after accounting for how much money you have. And only if those other guys are interested in that particular woman. So... almost never. If you are even slightly bit more attractive or more wealthy than her other options, personality gets disregarded. Or even better, she will come up with a fantasy personality for you that she likes and disregard all evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:59 AM
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Completely false. I have been on dates where I was rude to random people. Something that is considered to be the biggest red flag according to online forums. Did she dump me? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:56 AM
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What's the point of preaching about personality, then? Unless you have it really bad in the looks department, it doesn't matter. And if personality is the only way you'll get to go on a date, you are in really big trouble regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:51 AM
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They don't mention the fact that personality cannot be separated from looks. A douchebag is perceived very differently depending on whether he is hot or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:35 AM
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Of course it doesn't, because people don't have intrinsic value to begin with. It's a nonsense feel-good concept. People have value based on what they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:51 PM
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Yes. They are mostly complete BS with an occasional sprinkling of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:43 PM
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If there was no reason to think that they are lying, this point wouldn't get brought up so frequently. And it's not even lying, it's them thriving in the grey area of plausible deniability. The "surveys say..." argument presupposes that people are dumb and don't know how easy it is for a woman to go into double digits in a single day of partying at Burning Man. It's hard to take survey numbers seriously when all of this info is out in the open on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:37 PM
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Do you expect people to be honest in those surveys?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:32 PM
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Men have to work hard to get sex. Women can get sex practically for free on online dating apps. So yeah a guy who can score is impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:31 PM
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Society only seems to have an issue with men's dating preferences. Women only wanting to date men who are 6 ft+ tall = empowering, you go girlboss. Men only wanting to date non-fat women = bigot, chauvinistic pig. Especially funny given that women have these insane 20 point checklists while men might only have 2 or 3 points at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:45 PM
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Take 100 women. 99 of them will be attracted to 6 ft+ tall guys while 1 will only be attracted to guys shorter than 6 ft. That 1 woman will be held up as some kind of a "gotcha" to prove that women's tastes are varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:35 AM
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It's counterproductive though. Before the conversation was about what women find attractive in men. Now the conversation is about why women lie about what they find attractive in men. One of those conversations is strictly more negative than the other. It didn't work before social media because the truth about some things like women universally preferring taller men was readily apparent. It doesn't work now because the truth is out in the open on social media for all to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:32 AM
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Hopefully Amelia's popularity will let EU leaders know that people don't want mass immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:08 AM
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Being dishonest about something as readily apparent as height being attractive makes most discussions borderline pointless. If we can't agree on this, how are we going to talk about any deeper topics that might require self-introspection and admitting uncomfortable things about attraction? For example. I like tall women. I wouldn't date a woman who is shorter than me even if she has an awesome personality. Easy, moving on. Getting a lot of woman to admit something similar would require a long an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:10 AM
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It takes 5 minutes of Googling to find tons of discussions about height on Mumsnet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:30 AM
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A lot of blue pillers are trying to reframe red pill advice as blue pill. They will tell you that everyone knew that you're supposed to go to the gym and make big money and you're just stupid for not figuring it out on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:24 AM
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A debate sub is one of the worst places for honest dating advice. It's pretty much gender war on overdrive and people are arguing nonsense just to stick it to the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:17 AM
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Women's advice always boils down to "I wish Chad would do this and that to fit my very specific fantasy of how I want to date". They aren't giving advice for the average guy because he might as well not exist from their point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:47 AM
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What do you even need to dig up? She encouraged her wife to break the law and got her killed. It's all on video.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:39 PM
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And then they will spend the entirety of that relationship thirsting after the psycho guy and subconsciously emotionally abusing the new boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:33 AM
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Yeah we will just never get anywhere because you refuse to acknowledge that sex and relationships are interconnected. If you are a guy and you don't make your intentions clear, an attempt to build a relationship will just result in you pushing yourself deeper and deeper into the friend zone. Dudes don't want to be someone's emotional tampon. Women can benefit from having 10 beta orbiter pseudo-boyfriends who give them all the perks of a relationship without expecting anything in return. Men don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:16 PM
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If you read between the lines, "go to women's hobby groups" is dating advice for women rather than men. They want Chad to come to their hobby groups. Because getting Chad on a dating app might be a little too hard when he has a lot of options. All dating advice from women is always "I wish Chad would do this thing to make dating easier for me".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:08 PM
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Chad didn't become Chad by having feminine hobbies lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:06 PM
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And a man who cooks, holy shit you have no idea how attractive that is. Yeah, complete BS. I can cook better than most people and it has never helped with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:59 PM
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There is a correct way to do something and an incorrect one. Unless you hate efficiency for some reason. Posting several gym mirror selfies on a dating app is far superior to picking up an entirely new hobby just to meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:39 PM
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I assure you, Chad doesn't need to do yoga and attend book clubs to do well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:20 PM
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Making an online dating profile is a better use of your time. If you are serious about fitness, gym classes with women are going to be a waste of your time since they will just be doing goofy yoga instead of lifting heavy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:23 PM
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Plenty of games introduce "social contracts" for online play that are just grounds for banning people if they are even slightly rude. They were never needed in the 90s and 2000s before women started complaining. Now no one talks in online games at all anymore because the risk of getting banned is not worth it. Also the entirety of GamerGate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:21 PM
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Women are still very much a minority in video game spaces. They just have disproportionate power because of white knights and typical feminist bullying tactics to force men into compliance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:08 PM
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Because women tend to take over male hobby spaces and destroy them. For example, for every woman who genuinely enjoys video games, there are 10 activists who hate gamers and 10 fakers who are just fishing for a streamer boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:01 PM
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Maybe. A guy who genuinely enjoys feminine hobbies is not going to be as appealing to women as a typically manly dude though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:54 PM
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Getting fitter and having more money is universal and works regardless of personal circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:49 PM
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A lot of male-centric hobbies get nearly 0 interest from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:47 PM
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Mostly women. Men don't really read novels about gigabillionaire vampire-werewolf pirates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:43 PM
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Typical blue state.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:24 AM
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Things are really going to get fun once people start to set their dating expectations based on AI companions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:21 AM
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They all do. Just read this thread, they will come up with just about any excuse other than the obvious fact that they are fishing for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:33 PM
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It's just plausible deniability. They dress that way because they want a specific kind of attention (I'll let you guess what it is). They don't want to admit to it (it would lose them social points), so they say that they dress for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:05 PM
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Taking a cattle steroid that makes them attracted to fat women is completely normal, suuuuure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:00 AM
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It's a common side effect of tren, especially higher doses. They start to find fat women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:27 AM
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That "might is right" mentality has caused Europe to decide because they had better weapons, they were allowed to conquer and kill and genoicde Africans and native Americans. Historical revisionism. Non-Europeans were having wars of their own and slaughtering each other in record numbers long before Europeans even knew that those places exited. It does not make European conquests right, but non-Europeans were not some innocent enlightened civilizations. They invented genocide and slavery all on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:33 PM
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Women are also comfortable having pseudo-romantic friendships. Men as a rule don't experiment with their homies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:26 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:54 PM
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If they are gay, they can get them from men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:50 PM
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Once again this post is very women-centric. It has been said a million times but this is not just about sex. This is about not receiving affection of any kind (emotional intimacy, cuddling, words of affirmation) for months if not years. Something that women almost never experience but is a daily reality for millions of men. So yeah sorry if men are a little desperate to get even a crumb of something that women get showered in daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:57 PM
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The mass immigration is also people who would be in jail in their countries because they are actually hard on crime, so they flee to countries where they are free to gangbang all day long because there is no effective law enforcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:49 PM
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And that's why women vote for politicians who open the door for mass migration from those countries. And then you complain when normal people no longer have a choice but to vote for right wing politicians who are willing to do something about it (comes bundled with anti-women policies because the situation is so bad that people will ignore this part as long as something starts getting done). This is just not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:57 AM
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It's a toxic dynamic that women themselves are creating. They don't make Chad wait so other guys want the same treatment too. This is the same as guys having zero standards and being willing to date the first woman who says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:00 AM
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Unless you blast literal grams of gear a week, it's probably healthier than being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:16 AM
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And of course the 2XC subreddit is trying to spin Renée Good into a sexism issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:58 AM
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Women undermine themselves by constantly preaching about morals and standards and then ignoring all of them as soon as bad boy Chad show them even a crumb of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:59 PM
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It should be up to women to get rid of toxic feminism because they are the ones who are going to be affected first and foremost when the pendulum starts to swing the other way (it's already happening). People are willing to entertain various social justice ideologies only while the economy is good and they are safe and secure. Take that away and more hardline stances will start to prevail. Men did their part by removing institutional obstacles to women in business and politics. If women did such…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:04 PM
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I really hope that one of these days, Blue Pillers will show that their methods work instead of just dunking on Red Pill methods. Don't argue about the effectiveness of "game". Go to a club or make a dating app profile and show us that you can get a lot of dates by being a feminist ally. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:03 AM
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You are not going to look like Zyzz by just going to the gym or playing sports. At best you will look lean but no one will ever think that you lift as soon as you put a shirt on. The best silver age bodybuilders were smaller than the average Instagram influencer. Also surprise, people who do sports don't train for aesthetics. These are completely different approaches. Training for aesthetics was popularized by dudes like Zyzz and Rich Piana who were most definitely not Blue Pillers. You can Goog…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:58 AM
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How do you think it became known in the first place? Do you think high school teens 20 years ago knew that you are supposed to do a certain type of training to get big and ripped? Once again the Blue Pill is stealing knowledge that the Red Pill popularized and falsely claiming that it has always been known. Give it another 20 years and Black Pill ideas will be rebranded under the Blue Pill with people saying that "well you should have figured it out yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:39 AM
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Then you should know that you do the research that gets funding, not the research that you want to do. Now get funding from an organization with a particular agenda and see what happens if you produce results that don't support it. It will be very interesting. And you should also know that most meta-analysis results in "garbage in = garbage out".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:28 AM
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Chad didn't learn about macros, hypertrophy training and "supplements" from PE. This really just sounds like a case of people being pissed off that good knowledge is being made publicly available instead of having that one friend who will tell you about gear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:23 AM
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being a conservative piece of shit There we go. Didn't take long for you to prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:18 AM
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Do you actually do science?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:10 AM
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Making a poor case here buddy. If you have to speak in your free time like the HR is in the room with you (aka a meeting with your CEO), you are self-censoring. It has become so normalized that people don't even notice when they do it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:02 AM
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Normal masculine behavior wasn't labelled as "behaving like a dickhead" 2 decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:01 AM
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Not as bad as mainstream communities that hate on men so much that guys are either bending over backwards to check their own "toxic" masculinity or are trying to identify out of being male lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:41 AM
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Typically masculine = speaking your mind without censoring yourself. There are other things, but this is by far the most important one and also the one that is not tolerated in mainstream communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:39 AM
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All of them, except for maybe gymbros and it's a big maybe. Try behaving in a typically masculine way in a book club and you will get cancelled immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:48 AM
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Having a community is extremely important, even if is not exactly the most positive one. Reading Red Pill forums kept me going to the gym and grinding to get a career going before those became self-sustaining habits. Without the Red Pill to provide that early boost of motivation, I'm not sure what would have happened. If you completely shun any expressions of masculinity in mainstream communities, the Red Pill becomes the only place for guys who want to get things done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:30 AM
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Incels have the same mentality as left-wing activists, where their failures are down to some "innate" characteristics that prevent them from achieving success. An incel is not much different from someone who self-diagnoses 10 disorders to explain why they can't get out of bed in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:25 AM
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unsustainable conservative policy (e.g. ignoring environmental risks) You can stop with the environmental nonsense right now. Europe royally screwed itself over with decades of green energy policy instead of doing what was actually economically feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:17 AM
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Lol women initiate divorces regardless of whether the marriage is good or not. Just ask the demographic with the highest divorce rate, lesbians. Having at least some nominal barriers to divorce gives more kids a chance to grow up in a two parent household.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:13 AM
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Yeah and notice how liberals are rallying around a typical Chad who just happens to repeat their talking points (and occasionally shock his dog). They aren't rallying around a super soft gender nonconforming guy in a dress. They are making a cult around a typical Chad acting in a typical aggressive masculine manner. That should tell you everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:19 PM
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Liberalism attempts to counterbalance some of the entrenched advantages that the already-successful have and also address systemic changes that are always occurring regardless of politics (e.g. environmental change). Translation: liberalism exists to funnel money towards liberal elites instead of conservative elites. Good job on falling for schmuck bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:17 PM
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Conservative mindset = achieving things. Liberal mindset = victim Olympics until just getting out of bed in the morning seems like a grandiose achievement. It's not hard to see why one group does better than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:23 PM
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That's why one of the most prominent liberal icons is Hasan Piker, a typical Chad who is constantly fighting with his haters to prove something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:21 PM
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Some women think that men are dumb and incapable of reading stuff that they are openly bragging about online. There is no explanation for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:52 PM
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You went to a school with the children of people who are above the law and are surprised that they did criminal things??? Not every criminal is behind the bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:19 PM
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This would be true if women didn't trip over themselves chasing Chad as soon as he shows them even a crumb of attention. Chad didn't plan a date. He didn't pay for anything. He went straight into her DMs, hooked up with her and ghosted her the next day. Courting for is for chumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:16 PM
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The USA is a paradise compared to most of the world. Its citizens go out of their way to find one of the few dumbass situations in which they can get themselves killed though. All for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:37 AM
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Yeah of course if I went to a pub in the bad part of town I'd meet a couple of criminals. My social circle does not include people who are regulars at pubs in the bad part of town.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:02 AM
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This has to be repeated every time in these discussions. Awful, borderline criminal men are a fantasy for women, just like all of the most popular romantic novels show. It's why vampires and werewolves are so common in them. They just don't separate fantasy from real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:56 AM
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No one deserves to die. But it should be fair to point out that liberals are pretty much a suicidal death cult at this point. You do NOT piss off armed federal agents, no matter what. Millionaire and billionaire liberal elites like Hasan Piker are vile, vile people for brainwashing people into being sacrificial pawns in their cynical power politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:48 AM
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Just from a dating perspective, women usually have female friends that they can match you with. Most of those matches are quite frankly really really bad. There's a reason why a woman would need her friends to act as matchmakers for her and it's not a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:46 AM
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The Venn diagram of the women I'd like to be friends with and the women I'd like to date does not overlap. Being surrounded by tons of female friends would also be a red flag for women who are serious about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:41 AM
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I will never understand how women can simultaneously be terrified of men but also reckless enough to antagonize several armed men (talking about that new ICE video).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:35 AM
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"She lost interest when you said x because y" What she actually means is: "if I were her, I would have lost interest when you said x because y". My best friend has always given me terrible dating advice because she just projects what she would think or do in 100% of cases. Sometimes female friends will sabotage your dating attempts just out of spite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:57 AM
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These are not "crazy women". These are completely normal women. Your point would stand if we didn't have access to social media where women fangirl over abusive men all day long. These attempts to fool dudes into thinking that women care about morals are getting more and more ridiculous with how easily 5 minutes online debunk them. What's the big deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:11 AM
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Priorities. Why would I worry about a guy who pops balloons when women are heaping praise on a dude who tried to commit vehicular homicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:01 AM
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Just for once I want an example of an actually violent abusive asshole to be in one of these posts. Not just a dude who rejected someone in a somewhat rude way. But you won't say anything about dudes like Clavicular who actually ran someone over on live stream and said that he hopes that it was fatal because he has a typical chiseled Chad jawline and drives expensive cars, proving for everyone to see that actual assholes are above criticism. In fact, Clavicular has been getting swarmed by fangir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:57 AM
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Maybe this was true 10 years ago. Now we have Clavicular running someone over in his Cybertruck live on stream and saying that he hopes he died. Still has women swarming all over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 04:10 AM
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Completely out of touch. A normal man trying to have standards will result in him having 0 dating prospects instead of close to 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:48 AM
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implicitly requires trust/vetting as a prerequisite 20th century myth. At this point people who still think that sex requires anything other than good looks are simply fooling themselves. If anything, being a douchebag might actually be of help since it ticks off some of their vampire/werewolf fantasies from dark romantasy smut novels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:00 AM
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When being a criminal gangbanger is rewarded by women, men who look at that and decide "wtf that's wrong" do deserve a cookie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:57 PM
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Would you like it if 50% of people assumed that you are awful just based on your gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:32 PM
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Reality is often disappointing. It's better to tell your bros like it is instead of lying to them to make them feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:23 PM
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If it was so great, why wouldn't they be in the mood for it more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:43 PM
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Men already get compassion from other men lol. It's called the Manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:41 PM
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Conservatives aren't doing anything for them, but they aren't telling them that they are garbage trash just based on their gender either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:19 PM
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Because lesbians aren't infamous for having the least sex of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:18 PM
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Some people are really stuck on the idea that other people either have good intentions by default or are misguided at worst. Once you figure out that a lot of people have bad intentions, the world starts to make a lot more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:56 PM
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Yeah because you are another oppressed minority in their oppression Olympics toolkit. Progressive elites care because you are a cash cow for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:50 PM
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Cash cow / payday
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:32 PM
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It is a moral issue. The part that they don't tell you is that they are attracted to the bad boys rather than nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:41 PM
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Lol men mean that they want their own kids, not to raise some other dude's kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:08 PM
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Kind of a cautionary tale about societies that haven't figured out the division of labor if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:07 PM
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Cavemen did not look after the children all day long lol. They went out to hunt the mammoth and fight rival tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:03 PM
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Check this out. You "pity" someone who is the most powerful man in the world. A man who can type out late night shitpost that will have more impact on the world than most people ever will in their entire lives. This is why liberals are going into full delusional territory. So caught up in self-righteousness that they have become completely disconnected from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:56 PM
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If you equate being a notorious felon with just being an asshole who flipped someone off, all of these terms lose their meaning. You don't like this but this is how some women end up being horrible judges of character. If you think that someone who dropped a banana peel on the street is as bad as a gangbanger who put someone 6 feet under, risk assessment stops working.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:09 PM
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After you dismantle all the real and imaginary barriers to women in power, you run into the final boss of gatekeeping: the simple reality that women don't want to share their slice of the pie with other women in business and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:26 PM
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Men who take on the active parts of women's gender role are generally sought after. For instance men who plan social events and gatherings, who maintain close relationships with multiple people, men who cook, who are great listeners, etc are more sought after than the identical man without those traits. Men do all of this. It's just that: Men don't throw a hissy fit if someone is 15 minutes late to a planned outing, nor do they note it down in a grudge list that never expires. Men don't need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:06 PM
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This notion that perfectly ordinary women are chasing after thugs is pure fiction right of of the red pill, manosphere, loser mentality. I'm upper middle class and I know a woman who dates criminals almost exclusively and sends her asshole boyfriends to pick fights with other people. College educated women still pick the worst men they can. The guy might not be an ex-convict gangbanger but he will be a serial cheater instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:49 PM
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All subreddits are dying. Even popular ones like NoSleep are basically barely hanging on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:59 AM
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This sounds like urban poverty problem This is present at every level of society. Upper class has crime bosses, professional fraudsters, corporate psychopaths etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:09 AM
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Bruh those are not even red flags those are imminent disaster flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:46 AM
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Because it shows how this sub doesn’t really understand how women (or just people in general) categorize good and bad behavior. Oh, we understand how you categorize "good" and "bad" behavior alright. It's just so catastrophically dumb that no one in their right mind would ever take it seriously. You all will freak out when someone does something mild that goes against the social agenda of the day (like the guy in the video) and then go on to giddily date criminal gangbangers who have put someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:18 AM
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Yes, I'm well aware that the blue pill is playing catch up with the red pill. Give it another decade or two and current red pill ideas will move to blue and there will be a new wave of insanity to take the red pill's place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:57 PM
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Oh nooo... I'm so miserable that I spent more than a decade going to the gym and have enough money in my bank account that I can work an easy job that I like and focus on my hobbies. Let me get back to the blue pill and heckin' unpack this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:44 PM
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Guys don't really get anything from being friends with most women. Having a bunch of simps and beta orbiters is very profitable for a woman, but not so much for those simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:31 PM
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This need to be repeated 100 time more. Plus she's never really gonna be crazy about the guy she kept as an orbiter for who knows how long.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:31 PM
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Honestly it might be better to stay single than having to humiliate yourself like that. Have some self-respect y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:28 PM
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If you remember something that trivial from 5 years ago, you either have nothing better to do or are holding a grudge. The relationship was over anyway the moment she made a grudge list and started adding to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:35 PM
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Yeah no shit, guys don't get hundreds of options every time they go on Tinder so of course they think about their exes. It's more telling that women move on so fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:34 PM
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The funniest part is when you ask them why they stayed so long and they waffle about him "being caring" at some ambiguous point like the answer isn't obvious. "UwU I'm sowwy I promise I won't do that again <333" master manipulator Chad at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:14 PM
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Lul this still reads like women hold a record of real and imaginary slights against them, ready to bring it up at any time. I know that if someone pisses me off, I don't hold it against them for longer than an hour or two. A day at most. Women can and regularly do hold on to grudges going back years and years. So yeah from a guy's perspective it's a bit random when she breaks up with you and lists you forgetting the anniversary of your relationship that one time 5 years ago as one of the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:52 PM
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Blue pill on full display. A lot of the people who are the best at something are arrogant, have massive egos and are constantly bragging about it. If anything I'd argue that people who are both competent and humble are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:20 AM
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One thing that I noticed is that a lot of people not only don't understand risk and probability, but are also averse to even trying to understand them. Some people don't get it that someone who has a 10-point checklist is just as easy to fool as someone who has no standards at all. A reasonable person would understand that the perfect man / woman doesn't exist and that the charming Chad who somehow just so happens to check off every criteria is likely a snake oil salesman in disguise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:40 AM
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They say that they are super interesting and unique. Their interests: traveling, shoes, makeup, true crime documentaries, celebrity gossip. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:33 AM
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It is the default... 90% of people are heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:42 PM
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It's not them trying to be vulnerable. It's a very crass and unrefined shit test to check how much they can get away with. If you buy into it, she will spend the rest of the relationship trampling all over you. No self-respecting man should ever have to listen to a woman describe her adventures with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:44 PM
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Science is extremely competitive with researchers stealing stuff from each other. Also many professors stealing stuff from their students. Science rewards you for being the first to publish, not ethics or integrity. You picked the absolute worst field to argue gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:30 PM
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No point arguing, I can immediately tell that you neither do science nor understand how scientific discovery works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:26 PM
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Men never had a problem with acknowledging that women are also capable. Plenty of medieval queens who accomplished a great deal. It was just based on merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:14 PM
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If you see too much nuance in everything, you stop being able to tell what's going on. You are supposed to take a complex thing and simplify it until you understand it, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 12:55 PM
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Sure, but also women make up imaginary personalities for people based on their looks so looks and personality might as well be the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:20 AM
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If you approach women = you are a chauvinist pig. If you don't approach women = you are also a chauvinist pig. You are supposed to read her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:43 AM
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Women have also become lame. It's just that it's one of those "if I speak, I'm in big trouble" topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:51 PM
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You approach 100 women. 99 will reject you 1 will go on a date with you. That's a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:08 PM
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Pick any activity. There will be hundreds of posts of people failing for every success post. If people were dissuaded by failure, nothing would ever get done.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:50 PM
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Well tbh I don't want to be unfair so I'll say there have been situations at work where a woman had to come in and clean up the mess that the lads had made. I'm thinking of situations where there is actual danger or a crisis, for example encountering wild animals while hiking or getting lost etc. In my experience, women immediately push a guy in front of them in situations like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:02 PM
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Women are very good at "leading" when there is nothing going on and there is no right or wrong choice. When there is a tough situation where someone has to make a judgment call, all of the women are conveniently nowhere to be found (but they will blame you if you make the wrong decision).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 02:47 PM
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Lots of people on here are asexual to some extent and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 12:47 PM
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Great so you just typed out a whole essay but didn't give any practical advice. See why guys don't listen to women for dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:42 AM
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Your whole point crumbles because you don't know men. I want to steal this opportunity to illustrate why women's advice and perspective matters, because men know themselves, and they know men they know, but they don't know what women facing from men, how their act are perceived and they don't know how those men that you "know" act with women at all. This is assuming that all men on here are socially inept and don't have any female friends whom they could ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:38 AM
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nice empathic good communication skills good with money good father does chores loyal looks hygiene grooming attitude relaxed mind charm You just gave us a checklist with 13 points. This is why dating advice from women is borderline useless and at worst harmful. A normal guy reading this won't understand what you actually want him to do since it's simply too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:35 AM
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I've already said this a million times: the problem comes from how men and women define relationships. Women are okay with borderline aromantic and asexual relationships as long as they can get a loyal husband / boyfriend who will do chores and fund their lifestyle. If she gets bored, she can go to a club to "dance" with a Chad and no one will ever know. Self-respecting men shouldn't settle for relationships like that. But women don't care since they can benefit from both Chads and simps. You go…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:24 AM
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Yeah, she used to compete in martial arts on an international level so you don't want to piss her off. I'm lowkey terrified of her tbh. My best friend likes it though so I guess it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:53 PM
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My best friend's wife has anger issues to begin with lol and she just goes full throttle on some unlucky bozo if she thinks that they are getting too close.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:32 PM
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When she gets dumped by Chad she will want a shoulder to cry on. No, no, no. Doing this will put you deep into the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 06:27 PM
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I go to the gym and start slamming weights until I feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:31 PM
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Staying fit doesn't take more than 6 hours a week lol. Probably closer to 4 unless you are aiming for elite-level strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:26 PM
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It's great, right? Plus she can spend whatever is left over on whatever she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:40 PM
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Really? I kept my previous relationship going way past when we should have broken up just by continuously throwing money at her to appease her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:12 PM
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You don't get it. Money is universal and can make up for any other fault. Everyone talks big game until monthly bills come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 02:04 PM
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The specifics don't really matter, there's 2 end faults that cause men to fail: they don't look good enough or don't have enough money. The first fault is fixed by going to the gym, to an extent. The second fault is fixed by... getting more money. "He doesn't do enough chores around the house" - it doesn't matter if he is hot enough for her to overlook that or can throw $1000 gift cards at her to appease her. Yet women almost never tell guys to go to the gym or get more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:54 PM
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Women only interact with the end product though. They don't notice the effort that dudes put into self-improvement. It's like working at a restaurant and asking the clients what kind of meals they like. They will give you some general pointers but they will be less than useless at actually telling you how to cook those meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:50 PM
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The problem is that women are willing to settle for a man they don't find attractive as long as they can make him do chores and fund her lifestyle. If you have any self-respect at all as a man, you shouldn't aim for that. Your goal should be to find a woman who likes to have sex with you so much that she wants to make it exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:46 PM
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It seems like she is both aromantic and asexual to some extent and struggles to understand why people like sex and why people don't think that a relationship is the same thing as having a best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:44 PM
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Men's and women's dating experiences are so vastly different that women's advice is borderline useless for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 01:43 PM
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A man would never date a crazy woman who is not hot. Women regularly date criminal gangbangers who are broke, don't do household chores and are abusive towards them, while not even being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:24 PM
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Men like hot women, crazy is irrelevant. It's a calculation whether she is hot enough to make up for the crazy. Some women actually like criminal gangbangers for the fact that they are criminal gangbangers, they don't even have to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:20 PM
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Despite all the true crime dramas and podcasts that they watch, they are actually terrible at spotting dangerous men (and women). I've lived in a bad part of town in a town that was bad to begin with for many, many years and I can do accurate risk assessment and spot dangerous situations from a mile away. That's why I never got into any trouble despite things being so bad that even the police stayed away from the bad blocks. I regularly see women with men who have heaps of red flags. It's mind-b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:54 AM
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I always say this, social skills are for people who don't get power dynamics. If you have sufficiently high status, you can put in 0 effort and people will still be bending over backwards to please you. If you break down social skills to their basics, it's basically about entertaining people if you have nothing else to offer. Not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:14 AM
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And then they realize that getting a degree is not the same thing as working a job and either go work a non-STEM job or drop out of the workforce entirely. A tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 02:03 PM
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Please explain: 90% of CEOs are male. Most senior political posts are still held by men. STEM is still mostly male. All of the ugly, dangerous jobs like firefighting, working on oil rigs and construction are overwhelmingly done by men. Women are good at pretending that they are doing the things that men used to do. The statistics say differently. Not even getting into the fact that many women only got their jobs because of DEI.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:27 PM
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What is the endpoint of "gym?" Reaching your natty limit for bench / squat / deadlift, which should be something like 4 plates / 6 plates / 6 plates for most people. If you hop on gear, you just push your numbers as high as you can. For money, how can this attract women without leading with money? You don't attract them with money, that's what the gym does. You keep them around with money. Once monthly bills come around, it will be immediately apparent who is a broke bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:06 AM
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A broke dude living in a trailer is guaranteed to either be a dealer himself or have connections with dealers. Stop being so naive and the world will start making more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:51 AM
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Yeah women love hobos and criminal gangbangers but that's because they can get drugs from them. No self-respecting man should do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:48 AM
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Correction: we should start telling guys what actually works, gym and money. Guys are in trouble because they get hopped up on blue pill propaganda that flat out doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:41 AM
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Getting so methodical about diet is not necessary imo, I just watch the number on the scale and eat more or less depending on whether I'm bulking or not. Works well enough. It's only necessary if you want to go pro, which most casual lifters won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:58 PM
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It's just funny because bodybuilding is one of the least time consuming hobbies and yet people in this thread are already dunking on guys who are "obsessed with the gym", while spending 10 hours a day glued to their phones...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:42 PM
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You're about to get tons of misinformed opinions from people who have never benched over 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:04 PM
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That's why you ask her friends. Chances are there is at least one who loves drama and can't wait to give you the ☕ on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:27 PM
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Sex isn’t the primary motivation for a relationship for many people. And I’m not talking about ace or religious people either There are many aroace people in denial, yes I'm aware of that. And also many people who want to date someone just for their money. I'd rather avoid both of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:11 PM
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Non-aroace women understand that people get into relationships to have sex just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:56 PM
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From the point of view of the woman who turned the date into a job interview, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:35 PM
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Lol I don't have to communicate anything. I go on a date. Does she flirt with me and ask me to come over to her place? I keep going on dates with her. Does she spend the entire time asking me about my job? No second date for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:30 PM
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By your definition of relationship, why does it matter if you are exclusive or not? If you like having sex with someone, you don't want to find out that they are having sex with someone else instead of you. Hence exclusivity. Which is why it’s very important to be around people you actually like when you’re not having sex. Hence, a lot of vetting and taking things slow. It doesn't matter how much you like each other. In the end, if you have a healthy sex drive while they only want to have sex on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:42 PM
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Hook up and fuck buddies doesn't imply exclusivity. A relationship does. If you find someone attractive, it's natural to want exclusivity as well. Btw, sex in relationships tends to decline over time. If your starting point is waiting around for weeks, your end point may very well be a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:27 PM
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Counterpoint: you can define a relationship any way you want. I define a relationship as two people who really want to have sex with each other without playing any stupid games. If waiting around for something to happen is your thing, that's valid as well. There are many valid definitions of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:19 PM
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Read this thread, they are talking about "ambitious men" and careers... aka socially acceptable ways of saying that they gotta have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:02 PM
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This checks out. Among my friends, there is exactly 1 couple that is just 2 people who love each other and have no drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:34 AM
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That's the thing, as long as there is some level of interest you can make it go all the way up by showing off some money. It's very universal. The only counterargument I've heard is that they must be gold diggers but it's not really clear if that's really the case tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:17 AM
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A core assumption of the red pill is AWALT. So it makes sense to suppose that all women are going to behave largely the same when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:48 AM
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you feeling depressed made her feel uncomfortable in some way? I wasn't even depressed tbh, I was quiet and withdrawn for a day or two until she started grilling me about it and then when I explained what was troubling me, she said that it was no big deal (lol) and I was stupid for making her worry about me over nothing. Also what do you wish she would have done or said differently in this situation? What would have been your preferred response from her? A hug would have been nice. Or at least g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:04 PM
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I'm going to repeat the exact same thing I told my ex-girlfriend since it's relevant here. If I'm experiencing acute emotional distress that I can't handle on my own, the last thing on my mind is whether I'm expressing emotions in a way that she finds palatable. Now she can be a decent partner and do the same thing that I have done hundreds of times for her, or she can be an asshole about it and turn my emotional distress into a conversation about how it makes her feel. If she's gonna be like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:21 PM
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So it's not a fantasy then, no? It's reality. I can go on TikTok right now and find hundreds of videos of single moms crying about being broke and not being able to find a "good man".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:12 PM
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Lmfao it's really not. What's with all the single moms whining about how guys don't want to step up?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:57 PM
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Too late. The ambitious guy has options and doesn't have to date someone who wasted time chasing hobo Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:53 PM
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No women to be found in those hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:44 PM
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They are also salty about the fact that men who take care of themselves age much better. Plenty of guys who still look very good in their 40s and even 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:39 PM
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You don't see the irony either because women did just fine in those environments in the 90s and early 2000s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:23 AM
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They don't have trouble with casual relationships, serious long-term relationships, on the other hand... How many women are complaining about men not putting in any effort and being terrible partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:21 AM
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Communication style is supposed to be appropriate for the activity. Male-style communication is appropriate for competitive and team-based activities. Balanced individuals can do both male- and female-style communication. If someone refuses to do one style of communication that's certainly their choice but they shouldn't be surprised when they get pushback if they try to bully other people into playing along.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:43 AM
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You don't have to tell me, I have been gaming for decades and I have seen this scenario play out hundreds of times. It's not harassment, it's male-style communication. Woman joins a mostly male gaming group, someone makes a slightly sexist joke and she immediately folds and runs away to complain. Not realizing that that's exactly what guys are testing for: posers vs real ones. If she made a joke in response, that's the last time anyone would give her any shit. Btw guys gets subjected to offensiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:18 AM
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If they are trying to do a typical male viewed activity they are now actively forming female only groups for them. And thus completely defeating the point by feminizing the original activity to such an extent that it is no longer recognizable. Balanced individuals have both masculine and feminine interests but modern women are so hopped up on feminist propaganda that they can't engage with anything even a tiny bit masculine. Btw, guys never massively harassed women for participating in those hob…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:05 AM
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This is a very women-centric view on socialization. Guys don't have any trouble socializing with other guys. I go to both indoor and outdoor gyms (both within walking distance) and there are local powerlifting and calisthenics communities etc. I also know that there are local tabletop gaming communities, sports groups etc. The problem is - there are very few women (or none at all) in these groups. So no, the problem is not guys being anti-social, the problem is women completely shunning activiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:40 AM
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The key difference here is that empathy is about understanding how other people feel, not how you would feel if you were in their place. Women fail the first part and instead default to the second part. They just don't get it that men, for example, are biologically programmed to be active and learn through hands-on experience instead of reading theory. So they end up thinking that men are just defective women, which is the opposite of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:43 AM
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I'm also way bigger and more fit than most people so they regularly underestimate how much I can drink before it starts to become a problem. Stuff that would get people to blackout drunk is just halfway to tipsy for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:38 PM
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Quality entertainment is very important after a hard day's work. Having to choose between various flavors of DEI slop is demoralizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:57 PM
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Neck beards tried to harass a trans woman game dev over fable not having a hot main character even though fable never had hot characters to begin with. Looking like Shrek goes beyond just not being hot. Then give a list of the politically incorrect issues. All the various flavors of DEI and affirmative action.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:54 PM
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Correction: women care about men's issues (terms and conditions apply**). **As long as they are politically correct and approved by the mainstream. Let's say I'm tired of woke politics and uglified characters in video games. Let's see how many women will care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:36 PM
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I have it under control. Most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:23 PM
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Sure I agree, they are very disciplined and accountable and logical when it comes to reading dark romantasy smut novel of the month about centaur orgies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:20 PM
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Lol no woman is going to tolerate 7 beers a day unless she is an alcoholic herself and that's no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:18 PM
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Do those women put in the effort to stand out from the crowd? Are they unique, interesting individuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:04 PM
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Like I already said, when it comes to dating all women are extremely similar to the point they might as well be the same person. No amount of screening is going to change that so why even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:09 PM
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Why though? I'm 6'1 and I'd love to date a woman who is 6'2 or taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:02 PM
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The good parts make up for the bad parts, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:01 PM
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My point is that it's going to be a pain in the ass regardless. So why should I bother reading their profiles? It doesn't make a bit of difference if it's a massive pain in the ass, a ginormous pain in the ass or a colossal pain in the ass. I'm already mentally prepared for suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:58 AM
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This entire thread hinges on the premise that men are complete dumbasses who are unable to tell what works and what doesn't. If personalized opening messages mattered, there would be a huge community of guys brainstorming the best way to write an opening message. The fact that there isn't one means that they just don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:50 AM
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Where are all of these non-shallow women? I know hundreds of women, am friend with dozens of them and they are all similarly shallow when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:45 AM
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do worse than the men who do put effort in. True. The guy who spent more time at the gym and making money will do better than the guy who didn't. The guy who was reading profiles both wasted his time and is still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:38 AM
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What boundaries? "No smoking, drinking, gaming etc" - I already did that, I just did all of the gaming and drinking over at a friend's house so that she wouldn't know about it. Every woman has a long list of boundaries, requirements etc that are an absolute nightmare to deal with. You just do the calculations on whether she's hot enough to put up with it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:33 AM
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What's the point? She will still pick a Chad who didn't read her profile over an average guy who did. Like is matching with Chads not enough for you? Do you also want a legion of simp beta orbiters all flattering you about how unique your profile is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:29 AM
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99% of profiles are like exact copies of each other. They all love to travel, they all love to read, they are all looking for their prince (or princess) charming. Once you have read 10 profiles, you have read them all. I'd rather filter based on looks and then give a profile a more in-depth look if I end up matching with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 11:23 AM
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6'3 is the new 6'0.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:16 AM
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This would make sense if children of single parents weren't disrupting classes and turning schools into mini ghettos. You put enough children like that into a class and suddenly no one is learning anymore because all of the school's efforts are going towards trying to prevent them from fighting. No amount of money can substitute a second parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:01 AM
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Lmao that makes it sound like a protection racket.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:56 AM
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I would not continue being friends with someone who said something like that tbh. Way too cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:51 AM
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There will be fewer single mothers if they know that they can't rely on welfare state to fund their lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:51 AM
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Children from single-parent households are way more likely to get involved with crime. Society shouldn't be enabling the single parent lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:45 AM
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Going on 2 decades of sluggish economic growth in the USA btw because policies are focused more on giving more of the ever-shrinking pie to women instead of making the pie bigger so that everyone benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:21 AM
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Modelling and beauty pageants - men have to put way more effort than women to succeed at those since not only are they required to have good genetics, but also put the work in at the gym. Gymnastics - men perform way more impressive gymnastics routines than women. National sports - there's a reason why NBA is popular while WNBA is broke. The only good example you have is ballet and that's because a lot of roles in traditional ballet are restricted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:13 AM
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Being the best at something requires accountability, discipline and logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:59 AM
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And yet most billionaires are men. Most competitive hobbies are dominated by men, even those where physical strength doesn't matter. STEM is also dominated by men. So yes... men on average are more accountable, disciplined and logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:55 AM
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It takes less than a second to decide if you like someone's looks or not. Like I really couldn't care less what they write in their profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:49 PM
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And then the most obvious scumbag you'll ever meet ends up cheating on her and she's surprised because he was secretly a scheming Machiavellian mastermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:39 PM
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Then why are you making a post about men lacking social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:32 PM
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Counterpoint, following most dating profile advice never did anything for me. What worked was spamming gym mirror selfies (a red flag according to most people) and photos with a rented Bugatti (another red flag according to most people).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:29 PM
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Where have all the good men gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:21 PM
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Let's set the record straight. Most guys have good social skills since they have friends and can hold down a job. What you mean is that they lack the skills to communicate in a way that is palatable to women. And quite frankly the "social skills" that you need to communicate with women effectively are more like making up for the fact that most women are the ones who have zero social skills. Example: I never feel like the conversation is turning awkward or there is uncomfortable silence when I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:19 PM
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She's projecting hard. She's 5'4. Basically short woman syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:14 AM
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Did you spend a lot of time on those hobbies that didn't include them? "A lot" is relative and subjective. The point is, being in a relationship shouldn't mean that you have to give up on the things that you enjoy to please someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:57 PM
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There's a lot to address here but let's focus on this part for now. Last but not least, their taste in women. They never connect that perhaps the reason they only know dumb awful women is because they gravitate towards. They keep obsessing over women who want bad boys, but never thinking that perhaps the women are terrible themselves. They talk about how women don’t really care about personality meanwhile they themselves don’t care about personality in women, constantly seeing women as a monolit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:05 PM
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He is an outlier but the process is the same. Small scale self-destructive tantrum is still a self-destructive tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:30 AM
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I've been following Wes Watson for the past year. Went from a decent looking dude and a multimillionaire to doing drugs on camera, catching STDs from hookers, getting arrested and getting tattoos on his face once he ran out of space on his arms, back and chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:25 AM
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I guess you've never seen someone go on a self-destructive spiral culminating in them getting face tattoos lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:16 AM
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Yeah that's why good social sciences studies do causality tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 06:15 AM
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Oh trust me, an unattractive guy going the "socially uninhibited route" would get called a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:50 AM
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I like the progression when something it at first a black pill talking point, then it gets adopted by the red pill and then the blue pill claim that it was common sense all along and you should've known better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:30 AM
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You know there are ways to have fun other than getting cooked out of your mind and going on a bad decisions bonanza, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:23 AM
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Why should that be the case? Even assuming that I make a series of moronic decisions and lose 50% of my wealth in a divorce, why would a vastly more experienced and qualified 50 year old me have any trouble building it back if a 20 year old me could manage it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:42 PM
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I'm glad things worked out for you! Being with someone who is on the same wavelength as you is truly a blessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:35 PM
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If listening to women worked, guys would do it. Guys are practical and do what works. The only reason the Red Pill became so popular in the first place is because none of the usual Blue Pill dating advice works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:33 PM
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Sympathy and/or empathy. All guys can relate to other guys on how hard dating is so you end up with unwarranted solidarity between good guys and assholes based on that fact alone. Guys can't relate to women, who have hundreds of options when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:21 PM
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You still don't get it. The average guy can't afford not to care about quantity. "Quantity" for a guy means the difference between only 1 woman liking you vs maybe having 3 or 4 options. It's not at all like women, who can go on a dating app and have hundreds of options right away. If you don't focus on quantity as a guy, you will have ZERO options. 0. Can't have quality if you have nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:15 PM
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I'm fine with women liking me for my money. My previous two long-term girlfriends liked me for "me" and still ended up making me miserable so yep that's not a guarantee of a good relationship either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:12 PM
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Yep and no amount of shaming has ever stopped anyone from simping or trying to play the white knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:08 PM
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I do care about personality. I have personality traits that allow me to achieve the goals that I set for myself. What I don't care about is trying to reshape my personality to be entertaining for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:06 PM
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Sounds like too much work. You know what's much easier? Having money. I can just sit back and chill without doing any of this. Like I said elsewhere, "personality" is for people who don't get power dynamics. If you don't have anything else to offer, you have to hope that you can be entertaining enough for other people to stick around. Or you can just completely flip the script on them and now they have to work to keep you around if you are the more desirable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:04 PM
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It's like being a murderer is okay, but liking a murderer is completely atrocious. A murderer ends up in jail and can't cause any more harm. People who like murderers glorify them to an absurd degree and end up encouraging copycats. Just because glorifying assholes isn't illegal doesn't mean that it doesn't cause massive harm to society. Why not shame him if you must? Men are not women. Shaming doesn't work against men. Incentives do. If women keep on dating bad men, they will just laugh at all …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:59 AM
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See, guys will bullshit about wanting love, but they really just want a fuck ton of pussy to drown in. That also translates directly into having more options in dating. Why would I do the less effective thing when I can just focus on looks and money and have more success?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:55 AM
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Women hold all the power in dating. Men can't really choose, they have to work with what they can get. It doesn't make sense to focus on someone who has the odds stacked against them. Women on the other hand can choose not to date these bad men. But they still choose to behave like someone at an all-you-can-eat buffet who ignores the healthy meals and goes straight for ice cream and pizzas until they feel sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:50 AM
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I'm giving the personality crowd the benefit of the doubt and assuming that they don't mean "become an asshole" when they suggest improving your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:56 AM
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If changing your personality resulted in success in dating, more people would do it. People aren't going for the harder route of going to the gym and earning money because they are dumb. They are doing it because personality slop just flat out doesn't work. Tell me, where are all of these stories where a guy changed his personality and suddenly started getting interest from tons of chicks? I know of many stories where a guy tried acting nice and got friend-zoned every time though. Btw, women rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:51 AM
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It depends on what kind of "rude" you are. If you get angry and start yelling at the waiter, yeah it won't look good. If you put on a funny accent and start insulting the waiter while staying completely chill, people will think that you are hilarious. People respond to power dynamics, not morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:08 AM
3

Show me where all of these genuine women who will love you for who you are, are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:59 AM
2

This is why I always say that only 2 things matter for a guy in dating: looks and money. Money so that she stays with you, looks so that she doesn't find you disgusting. She might find a guy with good social skills and a sense of humor entertaining for a while, but he can't give her what she wants in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:39 AM
1

What kind of society is this that being a convict is a status symbol?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:37 AM
9

Seriously how can people type something like this and see nothing wrong with it? Basically reinforcing every Red Pill talking point ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:18 AM
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I don't really see a reason why it shouldn't be 1:1. In my opinion, feminism just reversed the situation that society had in the 1950s and turned it in their favor. Society used to unduly inflate men's egos. Now it unduly inflates women's egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:36 AM
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Women who look good, they’re fit Their standard for being fit is not being fat. Very few women are following a structured lifting program and even fewer are on the level of a typical gymbro. they’ve done the inner work on themselves, been to therapy They didn't do anything. Most of them completely fold when faced with even a bit of adversity. It's easy to seem emotionally well-adjusted when the entire society is built to cater to your needs. doing well career wise Like I said, DEI and affirmativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:26 AM
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If by "quality" women you mean women with an inflated ego, then yes. Plenty of "boss babes" who coasted by on DEI, affirmative action etc and think that they are equal to a self-made man who had to work for all of his achievements. It's easy to be considered "quality" when the standard of achievement is in the dumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:10 AM
0

It's not that simple. One of my best friends is constantly cheating on his girlfriend, but is also extremely reliable. Another friend has anger issues that she won't do anything about, also extremely reliable. I also know plenty of people who are pleasant and friendly, but completely useless in a crisis. Trying to predict how someone will act based on their personality is more nuanced than "good people will do the right thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 01:26 PM
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What do your friends get out of you? Different things for different friendships. Some are based on shared activities (eg gaming together), others are based on helping each other with stuff. None of them are based on something as vague as a "good sense of humor".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:30 PM
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Social skills are power dynamics for people who don't know how power dynamics work. People associate with you only as long as they can get something from you. Social skills basically means entertaining them since you can't offer anything else. Having money and good looks flips the script in your favor. Now they have to entertain you since you are the more desirable partner, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:17 PM
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There's a massive difference between what women say they find attractive vs what they actually find attractive. Gym mirror selfies are doing the heavylifting on my profile. Not wholesome pictures with friends or doing cool things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:11 PM
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Wow this advice is just as bad. You don't need all of this social skills crap. You need to go to the gym and have a fat bank account. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:19 AM
11

All the more reason not to support feminism if you believe in equal rights since feminists don't believe in equal rights for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure that their dating advice boils down to the plot from the latest dark romantasy TikTok-recommended novel they've read. Unfortunately most guys aren't gigabillionaire vampire werewolves so we're shit out of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:31 PM
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Being fired from a job is way more serious than being rejected for a date. Ruining someone's career with false accusations vs someone being upset about being rejected for 5 minutes. It's worlds apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:26 PM
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You can't apply "better safe than sorry" in criminal justice because the consequences are someone getting an unwarranted prison sentence for decades or worse. You can apply "better safe than sorry" in dating because the worst outcome is that someone gets their feelings hurt, wow what a big deal. A red flag is not enough to jail someone. But it should be enough to avoid dating them if you know what's good for you. But nah a woman will date Jimmy the friendly neighborhood gangbanger with DAGO tatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:19 PM
1

Wes Watson (a dude in his forties) goes clubbing every other day and picks up a new chick. A couple of days ago he even filled an entire yacht. It's all on stream. He walks into a club and they are immediately swarming him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:15 PM
2

It's common for women in their twenties to go home with older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:02 PM
2

Then why are those women getting into cars with men in their thirties and forties at the end of the night?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:47 PM
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Reason #1001 why you don't listen to women for dating advice. Basically everything you do is wrong according to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:44 PM
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Work - don't shit where you eat, holy shit how do people still not know this? Friends - doesn't work if all of your friends are already in relationships Volunteering - red flag parade, avoid at all costs. Hobbies - good luck meeting women in male-dominated hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:41 PM
4

Did you know that the level of testosterone can collapse from just one night of bad sleep and then take up to a week to recover? But you don't see guys turning down sex because they didn't sleep well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:09 PM
4

Men have hormones too, but for some reason it's only women who are never in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:04 PM
5

Maybe those women should not agree to a lifelong partnership with somebody if they find them repulsive and don't want to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:54 PM
5

And then women act surprised when their husband / boyfriend starts seeing Becky from work who calls him cute and wants to have sex with him, while all he has to look forward to at home is more chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:19 PM
2

Because he didn't do anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:26 PM
3

The sad thing is that many dudes end up in relationships with asexual, aromantic women because they don't know any better lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:42 PM
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A connection without any sex is just a friendship. Most guys looking for a relationship don't want just a roommate who you also have to pay for and do chores for. It also goes far beyond sex. A woman who is borderline asexual is not going to want to kiss you either or really do anything that could lead to sex. It's better to be single than be in a relationship with someone who will make you feel alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:57 PM
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It's subjective. For me "drinking heavily" would be a bottle of hard liquor a day. Most people would consider 3 beers a day to be too much. So, what exactly can you offer that I couldn't get in a relationship with someone else who doesn't have an oppressive checklist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:38 AM
1

Well, what can you offer that would make giving up alcohol worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:33 AM
2

You can find plenty of checklists on online dating profiles, plus you can always ask her friends about her checklist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:57 AM
1

It's your choice. But most players will know that they're about to score big when they see a 20 point checklist since it's very easy to pretend to be someone's dream boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:17 AM
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That's why I get blood tests every year to make sure that everything is still healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:16 AM
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Be suspicious of men who fulfill every requirement on the 20 point checklist. It's easier to lie about that rather than actually meet every point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:00 AM
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They need to learn to keep narcissism in check so that they don't fall for the first guy who starts to flatter their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:43 AM
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The problem is that y'all don't know how to actually vet. Composing a 20 point checklist just means that you will still find a guy who will lie to you to fulfill all of your requirements then dump you once he gets bored. Back to square one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:30 AM
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I'm healthier than practically anyone else in my age group and have a successful career despite drinking every day, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:02 AM
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And the chances are she doesn't offer anything in return that would make a relationship with her worth it. Plus you can be sure that this checklist is just the tip of the iceberg and she has like 21 other requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:00 AM
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No woman is worth giving up alcohol for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:41 AM
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Dating for men = trying to find water in a desert. Dating for women = all-you-can-eat buffet but they ignore the healthy meals and munch on ice cream and pizzas until they get horrible complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:00 AM
2

Talking about media literacy in a thread where the OP completely misunderstood Berserk...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:35 PM
2

How is this any different from women recommending smut novels about centaur orgies to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:01 PM
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They wouldn't be "sigmas" then, no? Berserk is a story about how Guts gets continuously kicked while he is down but still tries to build positive connections with other people. Quite literally the opposite of what this post is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:59 PM
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"You" as in you, the original poster lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:55 PM
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How can you get Berserk so wrong? Guts is lonely only during the Black Swordsman arc (and even then he has Puck tagging along) and it's never shown as a positive thing. The rest of the story is about how important friendships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:43 PM
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80kg at 6'2 looks "awesome" if you are close to 10-12% body fat (which you can't be without steroids without losing a ton of muscle as well) and stage-ready including a pump and good lighting. In a t-shirt, you will look like you have never touched a weight in your entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:46 PM
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We can't know for sure but I get the feeling he is only giving one side of the story and downplaying his brother's attractiveness while overstating his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:53 PM
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Going to the gym every day is counterproductive and is probably part of the reason why he is so skinny. 80 kg for a 6'2 dude is not a gym physique, it's in "do you even lift bro" territory. Especially if he is natty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:47 PM
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He is not fitter. If he is the guy from the earlier deleted post, he is painfully skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:39 PM
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If you look good, it's practically impossible to screw up so bad that someone will walk away from a date. You could talk about your super nerdy hobby and it will still work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:34 PM
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It's just another way to say "be attractive" without sounding shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:08 PM
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I don't have any expectations because frankly I couldn't care less what she does as long as it doesn't affect me. If she wants to be full time homemaker... fine. If she wants to be a corporate climber, also fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:50 PM
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There are more hot women than there are billionaires. Supply vs demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:38 PM
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Expecting someone to show a little bit of financial discipline is not unreasonable. If she can't do that, well, we can arrange it so that she has to earn her own money instead of spending mine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:37 PM
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Fair = her spending doesn't interfere with my financial goals. I don't care what she spends money on as long as I don't suddenly discover that I'm now broke or don't have any money left for the stuff that I want. Usually it's pretty easy and reasonable unless you are dating a shopaholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:50 PM
1

Just post it as a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 12:05 PM
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Well, the pendulum is already starting to swing the other way. That recent article about the "Great Feminization" went mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:37 AM
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"Standing out from the crowd" means in a positive way, not being annoying and "quirky".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:35 AM
2

Not really, saying no just seemed like a bad idea at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:25 PM
1

Really? I started dating my first girlfriend because that was the first time anyone had ever asked me out instead of the other way around. Was it convenient, yeah. The fact that I then spent years bending over backwards to try to keep her happy at the cost of everything else taking a backseat means nothing I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:20 PM
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Example: she's telling me a story about a friend of a cousin of a friend. I don't have the mental bandwidth to follow along when it's about several people I'm hearing about for the first time. I get confused about something and ask her to clarify. She gets pissed off and accuses me of not listening to her. Now I'm in big trouble over nothing and every conversation is extra stressful because she will get even more pissed off if she starts to suspect that I'm not listening again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:06 PM
1

Because a 10 is more attractive than a 8 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:00 PM
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You could say something incredibly straightforward with no ulterior meaning and she will still take several days picking it apart and twisting it into some narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:49 PM
2

Women also tend to take everything very personally and get offended at perceived slights where there aren't any.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 06:45 PM
1

It's extremely tacky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:26 PM
5

You could give everything to a woman and she will still be unsatisfied with the relationship because that will become her new baseline and she will want more. It's like a treadmill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:49 PM
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Diminishing returns. There's a limit to how much you can improve yourself and after that it's insurmountable amounts of effort for minimal gains. At that point it's better to just lower your standards and relax instead of driving yourself crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:33 PM
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Yeah but also it ultimately doesn't really matter who you settle for since all relationships play out largely the same. Endless nagging about chores, "emotional labor" and stress. Women want you to validate them and make them feel unique, but won't do any of the work themselves to stand out from the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:29 PM
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Women's sex drive is infamously so low that people are complaining about women taking over reading as a hobby with their smut novels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:57 PM
1

It actually works. Give them a gift card for $1000 and they will leave you alone for a couple of hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:10 PM
2

In all likelihood she is still having sex, just not with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:46 AM
1

What is that lip filler?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:38 AM
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I'm pretty sure that it's a matter of who their audience are rather than what they say. They appeal to men = they must be bad. Meanwhile Hasan Piker abuses his dog on camera but he's "one of the good ones"!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:03 AM
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Absolutely none of them look even remotely good enough to justify putting up with their insane opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:18 AM
0

Doesn't work when the vast majority of women have a lot in common with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:13 AM
0

It doesn't stop openly misogynistic ex-convict gangbangers from having girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:11 AM
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Sure they offer a lot. Needless stress from every angle all day every day. Whatever else they may offer, it is cancelled out by the sheer stress. My alcohol consumption in relationships goes up from 7 beers a day to an entire bottle of hard liquor just so that I can stay functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:32 AM
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Millennial, these people - also millennials or zoomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:19 PM
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You are correct. What men need to do is stop prioritizing women over their fellow men. Scrap the DEI and affirmative action programs and start hiring other dudes again instead of trying to fill quotas. The dating market would go back to normal if women stopped being able to abuse armies of simps for personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:55 PM
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Basically, being with the guy has to be an improvement over being single. And since I don't think being single is horrible at all, he has his work cut out for him. This needs to go both ways. For most guys being in a relationship is a strict downgrade compared to being single, other than being able to get sex sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:52 PM
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"Women should have a roster...men should court one woman at a time and focus all their energy on her" Translate to: "Men should have a roster...women should court one man at a time and focus all their energy on him" Now the translated version sounds very Red Pilled and something that women have been whining about for like a decade now, calling it misogynistic etc. If the latter is misogynistic, then the original is misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:50 PM
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Swap "men" to "women" in those messages. Do they seem right to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:42 PM
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The messages that the OP posted are pretty unambiguously misandrist tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:40 PM
4

That's what happens when you have an entire generation of people who have never faced adversity of any kind or even been told "no" a single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:27 PM
2

Yes... while hooking up with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:26 PM
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I will explain this to you in the most generic way possible. She wants you to cater to her every whim. Today she might wants you to play chore-bot 9000 so you gotta cook and clean all day long. Tomorrow she will want you to play multibillionaire and buy her a Bugatti. On Wednesday she will want you to be a charming Chad bad boy. You had better keep up and stay on the treadmill or else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:35 AM
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A big % of them are. Did you see the meltdowns about Tylenol?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:45 AM
1

Cost of living in the Philippines is lower than in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 07:29 AM
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All the hate for passport bros is hypocritical anyway. No one calls out or shames women for going abroad to hook up with Chad, despite many of them having "traveling" as a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:24 AM
2

So you are making things up because nowhere in that comment did I say that men are "the fix" or even imply anything close to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:08 AM
2

Quote me where I said that men are "the fix".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:53 AM
2

Surely waking up every day to 10 new headlines about illegal migrant criminals means nothing. It’s funny that you’re trying to say that feminism is supposedly protecting men when most of the criticism is that feminists don’t care enough about men to protect them. That's the hilarious part. Women go out of their way to protect the men who hurt them. You can't make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:01 AM
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Anti-anxiety and painkillers, sometimes antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:42 AM
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There's so much wrong with what they do that addressing all of it would require several PhDs... But sure, let's start with the easy and obvious stuff. They could stop popping so many pills that it makes a junkie look straight edge in comparison. It will benefit them first and foremost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:37 AM
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Feminism is kinda self-defeating if it's going to go after normal guys but protect gangbangers (who actually hurt women) from being deported and jailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:23 AM
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That's the cool thing... they don't need to do anything. The standards that men have (or rather the lack of them) mean that all they have to do is not be completely intolerable. Having a good physique, money and interesting hobbies helps, but it's far from necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:20 AM
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Not the ones who go to therapy and try to improve their mental health And end up with worse mental health because therapy is designed to keep you in a rut and popping pills instead of getting better. Not the ones who go to school and work hard to get an education and a good job? And end up in debt with a worthless feminist dance theory degree. Not the ones who eat well and exercise and try to live healthy? Most of them just grind cardio and never see any improvements because they are afraid of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:14 AM
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Not sure I agree. Unless you can finance her lifestyle, she will eventually ditch you even if she finds you attractive. Most guys just overcomplicate things. Career, wealth and status - you can group all of this into money. 99% of women won't care whether you are a CEO, a tech bro or an IG coach hustler as long as the money keeps coming. Looks... same thing. A nice suit won't make you attractive. T-shirt and sweatpants won't make you unattractive. Just go to the gym and unless you have some trul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:07 AM
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If they actually "filtered for presence", they wouldn't have story after story about abusive jackass ex-boyfriends. They filter for superficial charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:36 AM
4

Oh no! Anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:17 AM
3

Get jacked and post a gym mirror selfie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:50 AM
1

Maybe not, but a child who grows up in a single parent household is practically guaranteed to be dysfunctional in one or more ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:14 AM
3

And yet women will continue to date those men while ignoring the good guy feminist ally who is supportive and respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:03 AM
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Feminism asks men to stop discriminating against women legally and politically. To stop physically, financially, and sexually abusing, harassing and killing women and girls. 99.999% of men have never done any of that. Funnily enough feminism doesn't actually try to do anything about exploitative bosses or gangbangers. It's all about trying to make men who have done nothing of the sort feel guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:00 AM
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Drinking with someone doesn't imply consent to being touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:22 PM
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Sure people who believe in an ideology never see how crazy that ideology looks from an outside perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:09 PM
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Forget stories, feminists react crazy to everything. Indiscriminately.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:57 PM
7

I can bench 405, which does a lot more for getting dates than volunteering lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:42 PM
7

guys here have mean and nasty and cruel personalities. Have you seen the women here? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:18 PM
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I have no idea lol. I have an awful personality but decent looks and job. Let's get one of those mythical "good personality" guys in here to answer this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:48 PM
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Nothing? I never claimed that personality or whatever can compensate for a lack of good looks. I'm merely pointing out the contradiction of women talking all day long about the importance of personality and then going for the better looking guy anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:44 PM
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Ah yes the incredibly privileged people who have comfortable jobs and can afford to do volunteer work as a hobby. I guess everyone else is a raging jackass. Btw a lot of people who do volunteer work are closeted narcissists with a savior complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:27 PM
0

That's the thing, you can choose your partner. You can't do anything if the kid goes online and finds Andrew Tate. If there is no second parent in the picture, you are leaving things up to chance. Maybe there will be a family friend willing to play the role of a dad. Or maybe it will be Jimmy the friendly neighborhood gangbanger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:21 PM
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You can substitute those attributes with money. Don't need to be self-sacrificing if you can throw money at problems until they go away. Don't need to be romantic if you can buy someone a Bugatti.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:12 PM
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How will they ever get to show off any of those qualities if they can't even go on one date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:05 PM
4

It doesn't mean that he is going to grow up to be a happy, social and outgoing adult. Eventually he will become interested in having a male role model and guess who he is going to look up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:01 PM
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It has an answer. It's just not satisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:50 PM
-1

Denying kids a second parent for selfish reasons is actually insane
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:46 PM
1

You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:43 PM
-1

Usually when women talk about how unique our preferences are, it's in response to people like the OP and things other men have asserted on this sub - that women only like frat boy Chad or thug Tyrone. That's kind of a mischaracterization of what a Chad is. The base Chad is an overly confident dude with big muscles and a handsome face. But specific Chads are very diverse. There's a musician Chad with a guitar, or a techbro Chad with a Tesla, or a bookworm Chad with a novel etc. But at the end of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:39 PM
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Consideration for each other, consideration for what the general affect of unregulated behavior has on other women. People largely don't care about what others are doing as long as it doesn't affect them directly. Reaction doesn't discriminate among those that it's directed at. So far it's creating an entire "tradwife" grift and an opportunity for them to rake in millions of dollars. Same as attractive women pretending to be anti-woke activists to grift right-wingers. You see a societal problem,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:15 PM
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Why would they? Remember, women compete against each other. Encouraging someone to get hooked on various substances, get tattoos and nose rings and sleep around a lot is a competitive strategy. Same energy as women telling someone who is at least 100 lb overweight that they look wonderful lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:02 PM
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Gambling is 0% luck and 100% dedication.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 08:56 AM
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Not that i encourage leading someone on, but relationship is pretty different for men than their behavior with their friends. It's really not. Relationships can be boiled down to roommate + sex. If you can vibe with someone, you can figure out a relationship. Anyway interesting picture of reading out loud in the gym. Do you do that often? Poetry? Perhaps I should have made it clear, but I meant it as separate activities. And yes, I practice by reading fiction out loud if I have to do some kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:42 AM
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Most women would disagree with you, relationship/sexual experience is a deal breaker for them. Your past relationships won't come up as a topic on 1st date. If you make a good first impression, they won't give a crap whether you have experience or not. It's not wasteful if you're learning while in the relationship. There's a good saying, "perfect practice makes perfect". A low-effort relationship that you have no intention of committing to will just result in a ton of bad habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:38 AM
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Leagues are subjective. You can be one person's 6/10 and another person's 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:35 AM
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Do they have friends? If yes, they have the necessary social experience. You aren't literally ripping a feral human out of the jungle and forcing them into modern society. You should make efficient use of your time. I can't think of anything more wasteful than stringing along someone you have no intention of dating long-term. If you are shy and awkward, go to the gym and spend 30 minutes a day reading out loud to practice expression and intonation. It's more productive use of your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:25 AM
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If it doesn't work out, it can make future interactions with your friends extremely awkward. Same reason as why people don't recommend dating your coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:14 AM
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Because why the hell would you screw up aesthetics with a trashy tattoo? Look at ancient Greek sculptures. Did they paint tattoos over them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:39 PM
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I'm not sure that's reasonable. It would be unwise to disregard advice from about half of the world's population because of a bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:31 PM
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It's not that I don't have any compassion at all, it's just that it's not strong enough to get me to care. It takes a lot for me to genuinely start caring about something. And yes, it's been that way since day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:08 PM
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It gets redistributed so that it's less noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:50 PM
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Going from 5 to 7 is significant. If you are a natural 1, nothing other than dumb luck was ever going to help you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:19 PM
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Oh well, I guess spanx is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:18 PM
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I don't really care about any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:09 PM
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Weight can be changed. Height... not so much lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:07 PM
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So no one has any good dating advice, that's great 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:36 PM
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It's pretty common knowledge at this point that you shouldn't listen to women for dating advice lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:27 AM
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practically never plays any video games on her own
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:32 AM
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Not sure I agree. I have a friend whose wife practically never plays any video games on her own but sometimes joins us for co-op games. She has a fantastic intuition for stuff like figuring out the meta and progressively mastering the mechanics. We frequently end up getting hard-carried by her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:12 AM
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Dressing super casual can actually signal high status though. Take a look at how guys like Mark Zuckerberg dress. If you are highly competent at what you do, you can get away with wearing anything and people will still respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:46 AM
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It's not a complete lie. Some women really do only flirt but never make the first move. They are probably shy or something. Ignoring them and only focusing on the women who make the first move comes with its own set of problems. Gold diggers can be quite aggressive when looking for a beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:38 AM
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The guys who got noticed were the ones whose head would stick out of a crowd of a seamless mass of people in the club and on the dance floor, they noticed the ones whose physiques eclipses that of other guys, even if they wore fucking jerseys, a back rotated baseball cap and cargo shorts. So, working out at the gym? It seems to me that working out should count as "putting more effort into one's appearance". I agree with the part about fashion though. I wear sweatpants and t-shirts almost exclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:34 AM
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Which by definition would mean that they would all have to start dating men they're sexually revolted by(in other words, the majority of men) Lmao I'm pretty sure that a lot of this is social conditioning rather than innate biological behavior. Ease off on the propaganda portraying men as weak lazy idiots and things should improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 08:32 AM
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Women stand to lose a lot more from having their rights rolled back than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:55 AM
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The funniest part is that a lot of migrants come from countries where men really do treat women as property. If they become the majority, you can say goodbye to women's rights. Of course feminists as per usual don't give a damn about all of the violent criminal gangs that are popping up all over Europe and the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:50 AM
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If you do good expecting good in return, you are not good. According to whom? I certainly never said that being good means being a doormat. 1 sentence ago: If you do good expecting good in return, you are not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:08 AM
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It's very, very interesting how your interpretation of a "good person" is very much in alignment with how medieval ruling classes viewed peasants. It's just that this time around, instead of being threatened with eternal damnation if you don't bend over for your masters, people are threatened with being viewed as "bad people" by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:26 AM
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That's what I believe the bailouts are for. Or alternatively they will go out of business and those farmlands will be bought out by domestically oriented farmers. Free trade makes sense in a neoliberal world, sure. It doesn't make sense in a world where countries are becoming increasingly more hostile towards one another. If China suddenly decides to become hostile towards the USA and the USA's economy is entirely dependent upon exporting to China, it will get screwed over big time. If the USA h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:29 AM
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Economic adjustment takes time. If you are worried about food security, encouraging farmers to grow crops that are consumed domestically instead of chasing foreign markets makes sense. Next year those farmlands can be repurposed to grow such other crops instead of planting more soybeans to export to China.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:16 AM
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A person can stress out at game situations or find the mechanics/puzzles hard to grasp, but still be good at real life. To be fair, real life is intentionally set up in a way that makes it really hard to fail unless you go out of your way to sabotage yourself. Plenty of safety nets in place to prevent people from experiencing catastrophic failure. You can find out much more by talking. People can talk big game, lie, distort and manipulate the truth when talking about themselves. Everyone talks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:55 AM
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You won't really find out much by talking. Playing a semi-challenging game makes it immediately apparent if someone has bad problem solving skills or can't handle pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:47 AM
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It's easy for all of them to have jobs when companies and institutes hire them just to fill quotas and have bloated HR departments that hire women to make other women feel more comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:08 AM
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Being narcissistic makes me really good at spotting other narcissists. People who preach about the virtues of being a "good person" while reaping all the benefits and giving nothing in return are some of the most amoral and manipulative people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:48 PM
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Keyword: you, not other women. Guys need to have broad appeal if they want to be successful in dating. Advice that is only applicable to appeal to one person is borderline useless or even harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:44 PM
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Nope. It won't make you good. It will make you an easily exploited idiot who is doomed to get treated badly forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:41 PM
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Complaining about capitalism while posting on a social media site owned by a multi-billion dollar corporation...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:38 PM
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It's not done out of malice, it's done out of a lack of understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:36 PM
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Social cohesion. People are more likely to participate in society if they don't believe that it will abandon them when they get old or sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:35 PM
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If you listen to bad men-approved advice, you will just end up getting nowhere at worst. If you listen to women-approved advice, you will actually go insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:32 PM
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So basically empathy is anti-human. Healthy human interactions are based on mutually beneficial exchange of value. But instead of that, people want to exploit empathy to get freebies while offering nothing in return. Almost sounds like manipulation to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:29 PM
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He wanted me to move to his city because we were in an LDR. He thought I was taking too long and hoped that deploying some 'dread game' would make me miss talking to him and move faster. So let me get this straight: you were keeping your ex at arm's length and then it surprised you when he resorted to desperate measures to try to make it work. Men have needs too and don't want to be stuck in an LDR forever. Doesn't sound like a mistake to me. Sounds like he finally grew a backbone and put himsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:19 PM
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That's around 2.5 girls a year. Most guys get 0 women a year lol. This guy did way better than 90% of men. My ex of course listened and destroyed our relationship. Seems like we are only getting one side of the story. Guys who are happy and secure in their relationships don't destroy them just because someone told them something silly. These things don't just happen out of the blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:07 PM
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So? The red pill is about getting laid. Sounds like he's getting plenty of action so it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:53 PM
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That being a raging jackass is attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:51 PM
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However for a real test, ask them to play a couple of pub games in lol. Honestly this is a really good personality test. If they can handle LoL without getting toxic, they're probably really chill lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:49 PM
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The other is mid 30s, single, slept with over 50 women and is extremely angry and bitter, he's also been arrested twice. This is just proving the red pill right, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:47 PM
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So, video games? Great opportunity to problem-solve together and find out how the other person thinks and acts in various scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:40 PM
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Fellas, did you know that you can hire a private investigator to find out someone's past?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:02 PM
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Question: why aren't there more women-led businesses? Women could rapidly close the pay gap by having women hire other women and compensate them with fair wages. They would have a huge pool of talent to draw on if they offered women competitive wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 08:35 AM
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I don't have any strong feelings about women as a gender. I think that women are cool but that's about it. I find the company of specific women either enjoyable or annoying, depending on their personality. But that also applies to guys. What I do strongly dislike is the excessive feminization of mainstream culture. I like emotional romantic stories, but I also like media where it's just super jacked dudes fighting each other. Unfortunately mainstream culture is trending towards increasingly appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:38 AM
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What if he's gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:42 AM
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This study examined the effects of the concentrations of single-mother families (SMFs) and single-father families (SFFs) on youth crime. Five hypotheses, including the maternal, same-sex, equality, prevalence and economic disadvantage hypotheses were formulated at the aggregate level and tested using data from 433 Canadian municipalities. Consistent with the prevalence hypothesis, it was found that the concentration of SMFs had a much stronger conducive effect on youth crime than did the SFFs. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:21 AM
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More specifically, in those animals in question, the young male usually joins a bachelor group when he reaches young adulthood, which is where he gets his positive male role models. How do you think guys end up in gangs? If they don't have a father figure at home, they will find a father figure out on the streets and be introduced to a life of crime, drugs and prison. If you set up a society where people behave as wild animals do, you get crime-infested cities. Our entire culture is built on car…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:37 AM
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she has aunts, grandmother, cousins, sisters, etc, to help out. And all of those women end up raising a future gangbanger because the kid has no positive male role models in his life. Being the kid of a single mother is like one of the most consistent predictors of future criminal behavior. Honestly though, I don't really care. If women think that they don't need men to raise kids, I'm all for that. Cancel alimony payments and divorce settlements. Women can mooch money off their aunts, grandmoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:43 AM
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Two. One outright dreads going home for the weekend after Friday night pub crawl, the other one just seems resigned to running pointless chores forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:46 PM
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I've met guys who can't even believe that it is possible for a man to be happy in a relationship, in no small part thanks to almost all men in relationship being just miserable, SPECIALLY if women say they are "happily married", Real. I'd go as far as to even say that the happier the wife is, the more miserable the husband is. Someone's wife calling means that boys' night out is over. Funnily enough, I do know one couple that is actually happily married and drama-free. But they are both lesbians…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:24 PM
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There are more options than just gold diggers and sugar mamas lol. The vast majority of people are completely normal rather than either of those two extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:04 PM
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Alright I'm going to ignore my overwhelming personal evidence just because it doesn't meet your strict criteria. The fact that I got zero attention from women being getting muscular and plenty of attention after getting muscular is completely random.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:19 PM
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Well, I have options so I don't have to date someone who wants to talk about my career lol. Why would I date someone like that when I can date someone who wants to talk about fun stuff instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:17 PM
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Know, no. The point is that before getting muscular, I never got any interest at all. From anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:13 PM
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Porn featuring violence against women is also extremely popular among women. It is far more popular among women than men. I hate saying that because misogynists seem to love this fact. Fantasy life isn’t always politically correct. https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addiction-america-everybody-lies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:12 PM
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If the answer is no, The answer is yes, I only got my first girlfriend after working out at the gym for several years. Apparently none of these other things you are talking about ended up being important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:07 PM
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The overwhelming popularity of 50 Shades of Grey is good evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:05 PM
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You mean women ignore all of the normal guys with vanilla fantasies to go for the violent gangbanger and then get the impression that all men are bad. Remember, women have an entire buffet of options to choose from when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:02 PM
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Not just some, women are its primary audience according to stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:32 PM
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Men's power fantasy = being a brave knight rescuing a princess from a dragon. Women's power fantasy = 50 Shades of Grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:31 PM
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Which is absolutely true. If it's true, please explain why I only started getting compliments on my looks after getting jacked? Before, I never had a woman ask if she could feel my arms and pecs or comment on my butt. I also went from sometimes getting hugs to getting hugs all the time. I have also been approached several times by women asking me for my phone number now. If muscles aren't all that important, then why is my experience so vastly different from what women in this thread are claimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:15 PM
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It can also change how your face is perceived. Your face doesn't exist in a vacuum. Some faces that look stupid on a pencil-thin neck look attractive on a thick neck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:03 PM
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One of the most popular party dudes of all time is "ewe". Just goes to show that guys should never listen to women for dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:55 PM
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Google Zyzz before / after pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:50 PM
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Women's fantasies = good. Men's fantasies = bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:33 PM
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Is Option 1 also aromantic? If aromantic, I'm picking neither. If not, Option 1 is clearly superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:26 PM
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I think you are way overrating porn stars. Most of them look incredibly mid and the tattoos and piercings just make them look like complete jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:17 PM
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The ones who were preaching about their violent fantasies on this subreddit a couple of days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:15 PM
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Lol most guys are very vanilla compared to the incredibly messed up stuff that women are into.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 02:47 PM
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I'm not sure that's the case. You can see much more attractive women in mainstream Hollywood movies. Porn stars are usually incredibly plastic. You can also just go outside and see plenty of attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 02:37 PM
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Or how about lots of visible veins are gross to me? Henry Cavill doesn't have lots of visible veins. I like being able to see bones? Google "vacuum pose".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 11:45 AM
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I'd actually like to see more research about attractiveness and relationship satisfaction. People on Reddit tend to bang on and on about how looks are not important and it's all about personality and yet there are some studies that show that people are more satisfied with their relationships if they have an attractive partner. Anecdotally, that's also what I have observed in my social circle - more attractive people paired off way earlier and have way happier relationships. Personally, I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 08:47 AM
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To be fair, a lot of Hollywood actresses who are universally considered to be attractive tend to be on the taller side: Jennifer Lawrence (5'9), Cate Blanchett (5'9), Charlize Theron (5'10) etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:03 AM
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Alex Leonidas managed it a couple of years ago but he's been training for a long, long time. There are also some videos of college kids benching 405 floating around but tbh I'm pretty sure they've all had a little bit of help from juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:39 AM
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405 lb / 184 kg.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:16 AM
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A lot of confusing statements clear up if you assume that they are coming from lesbians or bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 04:41 AM
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Muscles are who you are though, they are an expression of your discipline and training style.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:58 AM
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That's the intention, yes. It makes it easier for me if all the gold diggers filter themselves out and move on to trying to suck some other poor guy's bank account dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:23 AM
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As if everyone else isn't doing the same. Some people approach you because you drive an expensive car. Some people approach you because you are lucky enough to have a pretty face. It's better to be liked for your looks than the size of your bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:19 AM
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I think that lesbians are pretty visual too, just when it comes to women rather than men. One of my best friends is lesbian and she is so insanely picky about women's looks you wouldn't believe it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 02:29 AM
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You can also rent a luxury car for a date if you really want to impress someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 02:24 AM
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you also see guys saying that gaining muscle only helped them impress other men. There could be multiple problems there, like hopping on a ton of gear while having an unbalanced and undisciplined program would probably just give someone acne. Or guys who just permabulk and never get shredded. It's pretty much impossible to tell what's going wrong without seeing someone's physique. my initial instinct is to just say that the women are lying about what they are attracted to In my experience, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 01:06 AM
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If you take a picture with a Bugatti, you suddenly start getting a lot of matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:57 AM
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Bear mode / "dad bod" would like to have a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:52 AM
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I'll be very blunt. Multiple orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:47 AM
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Yeah it's one of these surprising things that I often see in the Reddit dating discourse. Basically people who don't find their partners attractive at all trying to rationalize dating from a cost-benefit perspective. When you find your partner attractive, you don't need complicated arguments about why being in a relationship is beneficial. That's why I always tell people that they should find someone who shows obvious signs of attraction even during the first date. It will save you a ton of head…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:46 AM
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I'm so tired of this notion that muscles don't matter. For me, getting jacked was the single biggest thing that has helped me with dating. Went from getting no interest at all to having women approach me and flirt with me. In fact, the more jacked I got, the more interest I also got. Guys, don't let redditors convince you that women don't find muscles attractive. Here's a quote from Jeff Nippard's survey: Correlation with Partners: Data showed that men who could bench press more tended to have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:39 AM
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This subreddit. They tell you that you should care about women's hobbies, but when you say ok I want to date women who like x, y and z they get pissed off and say no not those hobbies lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:45 PM
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Men objectify women, they don't care for their personalities, they want sex only, yada yada. "Ew, men swipe right on so many women on apps indiscriminately, like all they care about is the female figure". Funny thing: if you reject women based on their personality, they get even more pissed off than if you had only cared about their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:04 PM
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There are creative workarounds that make it pretty much impossible to find your assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:46 PM
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Men treat you like shit often when you give too much too fast. Women treat you like shit often when you give too much too fast. To me that sounds like two equally toxic people who deserve each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:02 AM
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It's not that hard to figure it out. Just try different things and keep track of what she is responsive to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:01 AM
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They are extremely rare and tend to get kicked out of the sport because they can't control themselves and break the rules. The vast majority enjoy the competitive aspect rather than beating the crap out of someone. The jackass who kept punching a guy after knocking him out was universally condemned by the entire community and sent to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:14 AM
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No, the "M" is for enjoying pain. No, the "M" is for "mixed". It's "mixed martial arts". In MMA you have two doms either of whom may or may not be "S" or "M." Viewing MMA as this is some serious porn-induced brainrot. People enjoy competition for competition. The enjoyment comes from being more skilled than your opponent, not hurting them. And there are specific rules in place to minimize violence and injuries. Actually feeling sexual pleasure from hurting someone or being hurt is completely dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:57 AM
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Btw, your opinion wasn't unpopular at all just two decades ago. It should tell you everything about where society is trending that saying that enjoying violence is messed up has become an unpopular opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:40 AM
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Like I said in another post, people who do MMA don't ask to get punched. They do everything they can to avoid getting punched because getting punched = you lose. BDSM and kink practitioners actually enjoy having violence inflicted upon them. It's completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:39 AM
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Even if we look at the most extreme example of a violent sport, getting clocked in the face is not the point of MMA. Both fighters want to avoid getting clocked in the face as much as possible. With BDSM and kinks, inflicting violence is the point. Deriving sexual pleasure from inflicting or receiving violence is sketchy at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:07 AM
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Kids playing cops and robbers doesn't result in injuries, other than accidental ones. People who participate in the kink and BDSM lifestyle can and do regularly end up hospitalized because they are intentionally inflicting harm upon each other. You can't compare these two. Actually committing acts of violence against someone is not a "fantasy". It's a real thing with real consequences. Having a safe word does not make it any less real. It's as stupid as playing paintball with live ammo would be,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:43 AM
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It's probably for the same reason why men who lift like to look at themselves in the mirror It's not nearly the same. I spend maybe a minute flexing in the mirror after lifting, but that's it. I don't dress 80-90% naked when going outside and I don't feel a need to either. It's rapidly deteriorating culture when you can go to a shopping mall and see dozens of women who are dressed more provocatively than even sex workers from 20 years ago. Music festivals are the same, feels like you are going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:18 AM
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Once you accept that their power fantasy is to get as naked as possible and that a lot of them are bisexual or lesbians in denial, their answers about not dressing for attention will make a lot more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:42 PM
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Diminishing returns. If you are constantly cuddling, you will build up tolerance and get less dopamine from it. The less of something you get, the more dopamine you will get when you eventually get it. Not to mention sex gives way more dopamine than cuddling as a baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:40 PM
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Objectification = they got attention from someone they didn't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:32 PM
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Spoilers: they are not nearly as straight as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:31 PM
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Yeah sorry it's not lovely when someone's butt is hanging out of their shorts. Especially not in public places where they are dragging their asses all over where other people are going to be sitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:29 PM
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Do we have data on how many men actually solicit nudes and subscribe to OnlyFans? Something tells me that it isn't an overwhelmingly huge %. I don't really get either of these "sex is emotional" vs "sex is a biological impulse" narratives. Sex feels good and that's it, you don't need a super complicated theory to explain it. It's just a good source of dopamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:21 PM
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It's not shallow, it's just highlighting the double standard in how hookup material vs husband material guys get treated. Of course most guys would prefer to be hookup material.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:20 PM
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Hookup guy gets sex for free. Husband material guy has to wash the dishes and do a dozen other chores and then maybe she will be in the mood but most likely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:13 PM
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I'm sure, or at least want to believe, that people who are genuinely kind and caring don't have any problem finding each other and building happy relationships together. It's the rest with various anti-social tendencies who are getting into trouble and causing all of these debates about dating lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 02:14 PM
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I thought that my ex-girlfriend was not like that right up until the moment that the relationship became awful. To be fair I'm willing to admit that it was at least 50% my fault if not more so I'll count her as "not like that". One of my best friends and her wife are "not like that", at least most of the time. So that's 3 women. But I also know at least two dozen who do act "like that". So overall the odds are not great and it's safer to assume that they are going to act "like that" rather than …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:59 PM
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Damn. Dr. Mike Israetel's PhD thesis is getting dragged through the mud.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:53 PM
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Dumbbell Rob was on stream last week knocking some guy into a bunch of chairs and then trying to fight Creepy Nick and Wes Watson before their bodyguards intervened. This week he already has a new girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:46 AM
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You're giving gold diggers way too much credit. They are usually blatantly transparent in their attempts to get access to someone's bank account. You just have to follow 2 rules: never give them money no matter what and protect your assets. That's it, gold diggers are no longer interested in you. I just never go on a second date with someone who starts asking me about my job and income on first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:30 AM
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"You can tell if a man truly loves you by whether or not he's playing video games when you are over" Women's molten hatred of video games will never not be funny lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:53 AM
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Can't fault a guy for taking his chances lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 08:36 AM
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30 stories from Reddit sure are rock-solid evidence. Not even a survey. As is trying to tie Gamergate to this whole thing. btw The data has certain characteristics that must be acknowledged. Firstly, it should be noted that the experiences of radicalization reported in this study come from individuals who have, to varying degrees, disengaged from the manosphere. Therefore, their experiences and motivations may differ from those who are still engaged in the manosphere or choose not to share their…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:10 AM
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AWALT = all women are like that. NAWALT = not all women are like that. And why not? If there was a large % of women who didn't behave as the red pill predicts, it would be incredibly easy to demonstrate. And yet the red pill is popular in part because AWALT behaviors are so common that pretty much any guy can read the red pill and immediately spot those behaviors in his social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:20 AM
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AWALT is a red pill concept for a reason. It doesn't literally mean that all women behave like that, just that the overwhelming majority does and you're better off assuming AWALT instead of chasing the NAWALT unicorn. It doesn't matter that some woman out there might be a NAWALT when in all likelihood you will never meet her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:06 AM
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But that would require them to actually care about the perspectives of women and treating us as having worth beyond just sex or relationships. Average red and black piller would never do that. Most guys get red pilled by their interactions with women, not because they found some strange online forum. Having female friends is probably the quickest path to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:03 AM
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Having dating preferences does not mean that they dislike women. If anything, women's dating preferences are much more strict, harsh and still socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:22 AM
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He is rich and famous because he is attractive enough to have millions of teenagers subscribing to his channel. You can't separate his success from his attractiveness. An ugly man might have the chance to occasionally abuse one woman. Jack regularly abuses his girlfriends, sent his bodyguards to knock some dude out and gave him brain damage in the process, instigated multiple fights in public and deliberately hospitalized his girlfriend on stream. A normal ugly guy would already be in prison 10 …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:45 AM
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Run a thought experiment. If Jack were ugly, would he get dozens of girlfriends whom he can pimp out on OnlyFans? If Jack were ugly, would he get millions of subscribers who fund his bodyguards? In fact, you can watch the entire sage of his transformation from a normal kid to a raging jackass on YouTube. He wasn't even 1/100 as bad before he became rich and famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 11:36 AM
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Jack Doherty is just the most extreme outlier. He can literally abuse people on camera and never face any consequences for it. Normal attractive people aren't as aggressive about it, but they can get away with stuff that less attractive people couldn't even dream of. And the halo effect is so strong that people don't even notice when an attractive person is being a jackass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:47 AM
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Then why does Jack Doherty pimp out his girlfriends on OnlyFans? In addition to sending his bodyguards to attack people, getting into car crashes for clout and most recently provoking Wes Watson into making a fool of himself on stream? Rich attractive kid should have no reason to keep abusing people. I nearly forgot, he also hospitalized his girlfriend a couple of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:02 AM
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In my experience, they just have a very specific type of thinking that gets reinforced by smut novels. For example, a guy who is into cars knows that the local car dealership isn't going to be swarming with 10/10 hotties who are all looking to date him. Counterexample: a woman who is into dancing expects her dance class to be swarming with 10/10 multi-billionaire CEOs who are all looking to date her and doesn't realize how unrealistic it is. Basically the plot of a typical smut novel. She was at…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:08 AM
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It's a weird dealbreaker for sure. Some people are completely fine with you watching Netflix or streams for hours but the moment you boot up a video game, all hell breaks loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:03 AM
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I'd say there's a decent % who actually have interesting hobbies but they don't stay single for long. They have options. It's just completely down to luck whether you will meet one and then pass the bar for her to consider you attractive. Dating apps maximize your chances though since you can talk to hundreds of people whom you would normally have no opportunity to get to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:45 AM
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Women in real life tend to have the same hobbies. At least on a dating app they are upfront about it so you don't end up wasting your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:36 AM
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There's a bunch of out of touch technophobes who still think that we are living in the 70s. Gen-Z generally don't think that online activity is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:30 AM
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If you are treated like a god, you get a god-sized ego. It's not that they are actively malevolent, they just see everyone else as far beneath them. Kind of like how medieval royals treated peasants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:28 AM
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No. In fact, they are completely the same. I have actually encountered more blatant gold diggers in real life than on dating apps so there's that too. What dating apps allow you to do is look for people with specific interests. I have said this before, but in real life it would be completely impossible to meet a woman who is into video games, heavy metal and anime. On dating apps, women like that are only a couple of swipes away. So if you want to actually match on hobbies, dating apps are the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:32 AM
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We live in a capitalistic world where constant growth is the goal, you can only get to much out of the male gamer demographic, and most companies started abandoning it around the 2010s when gaming became mainstream. If it was up to me, everyone would be making their own passion projects and overly elaborate mathematical torture simulators. The thing is, making a game more appealing for women will alienate a part of your male audience. Making a universally appealing game is impossible. It's bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:14 AM
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The thing is, women have no problem having sex with their friends as long as those friends are Chads. There's a reason why women popularized the term "situationship". Not even going to touch on the trend that women who are even slightly bisexual also "experiment" with their girl friends. Women only get offended about the sex with friends thing as long as they find the guy to be too unattractive for them. Otherwise it's completely fine. It makes sense that guys don't want to stay friends with som…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:57 AM
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I'm honestly constantly (not) surprised by how negatively women tend to view video games. Some of the most talented, hardworking and diligent people I know are huge gamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:21 AM
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Those connections require an order of magnitude less effort. If you try to maintain friendships with tons of women who rejected you, you will just get swamped and lose the ability to focus on the friendships that really matter. Also, women don't introduce guys to other women nearly as much as y'all say you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:19 AM
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At this point I'm pretty sure that women are complaining about dating apps because the convenience of dating apps mean that they get asked out less in person, which means less validation for their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:15 AM
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Why man just why? Like why in the crap would you waste a year for that? If someone is desperate enough to do that, they will get better results by going to the gym for a year and then posting a couple of gym mirror selfies. Time is money, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:09 AM
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And the most important point: the mythical "modern audience" that these companies keep trying to pander to doesn't actually exist. Woke activists on social media don't actually buy video games. If they stopped grifting investors for money, they would go out of business tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:47 PM
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I mean I also have several millions in investments, can bench press 405, and can play the guitar and sing decently well. Now imagine this from my point of view. People telling me that I need to entirely upend my lifestyle that I spent more than a decade grinding for and play slow pitch instead because they don't like my hobbies lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:40 PM
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Joke's on her, I would unmatch even before date number one. Problem solved, some other dude has to deal with skid marks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:44 PM
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It's kind of sad that women are so mercenary about relationships that you actually have to be worried about protecting your assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:40 PM
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He's a multi millionaire and she is a single mother with a son who's locked up in prison for murder. Basically textbook beta bucks case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:52 PM
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Have to say, the entire Wes Watson saga this year has been one of the most red pill things ever. Dude was on stream asking his girlfriend why she never hugs him or tells him that she loves him and she was giving all of the usual excuses about "emotional labor" and "love languages". It's a movie, fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:39 PM
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So? Having sedentary hobbies doesn't stop you from going to the gym to stay fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:57 PM
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As opposed to the very adult hobbies of watching Netflix all day long or being glued to their phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:50 PM
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If you don't protect your assets because you think that you can trust your partner, you are already halfway to being broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:48 PM
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Doesn't seem so. Just yesterday I said that I prefer dating apps because I can look for a woman who is also into video games, heavy metal and anime and people immediately started lecturing me that niche interests are a shaky foundation for a relationship lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:35 PM
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There are tons of ways to hide and protect your assets in a marriage. If you don't know how, you can hire someone who specializes in that sort of stuff to help you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:28 PM
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There's a funny thing going on here. If you care about a woman's looks, you are shallow If you care about a woman's career and education, you are a gold digger lazy entitled insert bad term here. If you care about a woman's hobbies and interests, you are an incel because you aren't supposed to look for a woman who is also into video games and anime. You just can't win. They basically don't want men to have any standards or preferences at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:24 PM
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It's calculated, intentional, malicious, and unfair. So is trying to divorce a dude to steal his assets and get your big payday lol. Want money? Earn it like everyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:55 PM
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Beta bucks in overdrive mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:09 PM
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I'm willing to pay only if they seem to be willing to pay too. If they offer to pay or split the bill and seem genuine, I'm okay with covering the entire cost. Same applies later in a relationship. If they buy me stuff, I will buy them stuff. If they start acting entitled and demanding, I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:38 PM
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Someone on 2XC posted this article and I don't know if I should be sad or just laugh lmao “I’m looking for a man who … has goals and ambition, is intelligent, trustworthy, a provider, supportive, considerate, kind, assertive, masculine, honest, faithful, intentional, has a healthy self-esteem and a sense of humour, loves to go out, and likes fitness. These basic qualities are hard to find these days,” she said. Lmao. “I’m happy to compromise on things. The bar is extremely low, and yet it’s rare…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:07 PM
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It basically improves every metric except for the one that actually matters - GDP growth rate. You can't talk about any kind of better outcomes when countries are stuck with laughably weak 1%-2% growth rates for decades, or even going into recessions. Last I heard, woke companies were laying off people at record numbers instead of creating more job openings. The US still hasn't been able to sustain pre-financial-crisis growth rates for any decent amount of time despite the multitudes of DEI init…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:11 PM
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Job openings are limited, especially when economic growth is stagnating. If you are giving someone a job, you are taking it away from someone else. I want actual hard evidence that DEI promotes growth. So far we just have bogus study after bogus study while US and Europe's economies are circling the drain. In my experience, DEI just results in hiring people to fill quotas while productivity continues to go down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:57 PM
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Eric Kanevsky? I'm pretty sure that the only one out of this entire crew who can actually fight is Dumbbell Rob. He was trying to throw hands with some random dude and Creepy Nick last week before Wes Watson's bodyguard got between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:16 PM
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I'm not sure this is good advice. Youth = more energy and you need a ton of energy if you want to do some hardcore career climbing. Late nights, taking risks etc. And wealth tends to grow if you invest it so having more wealth earlier is better than having more wealth later. In my opinion it's better to focus on your career while you are young and then chill out and do other things once you are already set for life and no longer need to work as hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:44 AM
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Any fans of the NoSleep subreddit here? It's kind of sad how hard it has fallen off in recent years. Where am I even supposed to read horror stories now lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:29 AM
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Neither do half the posters there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:14 AM
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Now go and post this on the 2XC subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 11:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure that it's a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:50 AM
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They had beef before the throat poke. Jeff knew that Mike told him to stay away and still walked into his personal space.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:16 AM
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You are literally arguing that you'd rather be the king's side chick. How is that not a social status thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:53 AM
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I would say "jacked" means that you look like you lift while wearing a t-shirt and not using any lighting tricks or flexing. For me, getting 3d delts and pecs made the biggest difference but that took a very long time. In my experience, gains start to taper off hard after a couple of years unless you are willing to hop on steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:37 AM
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Looking somewhat fit took 2 years, looking jacked in a t-shirt was closer to the 5 year mark but I was cheating by also having high body fat %. Looking jacked in a t-shirt while also having a low body fat % is only a recent thing after 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:00 AM
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Kali Muscle was also on ton of gear while in prison. Any dumbass workout works if you are running even a bit of TRT. Actually building a decent physique while staying natty is a completely different game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:48 AM
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Sure, but being attractive as a woman is a lot more straightforward to figure out. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that dieting, having a skincare routine and a decent haircut will improve your looks. For guys it's not nearly that straightforward. If a guy diets to slim down, he will just end up looking skinny fat and potentially even worse than before. Just playing sports is not going to be enough either. Guys like Jason Momoa and Chris Hemsworth had to run several cycles of bulking up a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:30 AM
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Not all for sure but there are lots of women who have this mercenary approach to relationships where they are only interested as long as a relationship improves their social or material standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:19 AM
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He chickened out of fighting Joey Stax but tbh Joey Stax also pulled a knife and chickened out when Big Boy was challenging him to a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:12 AM
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After thinking about it, the "it was really obvious / you should have known better" argument that blue pillers use to justify misleading men about what women find attractive can also be applied to people in cults. After all, it's really obvious that some evil spirit isn't going to torment you if you don't give all of your earthly possessions to Jeremy the cult leader in a funny hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:05 AM
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Blue pillers are always one well-constructed debate post away from revealing their red pill beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:03 AM
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(look at Jeff Nippard, for example) Remember that time Jeff Nippard tried to act tough and got slammed by big Mike Van Wyck?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:59 AM
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Historically, the most "biologically fit" dude is the guy who had children with as many women as possible lol. There's data that only about 40% of men but 80% of women reproduced. I somehow doubt that those guys were sticking around to be super supportive fathers. You can see the same pattern playing out today. Some scumbag gangbanger has 10 baby mamas with children who are being raised by "dads who stepped up". In other words, beta bucks. Now, who is more biologically fit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:58 AM
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Sure, personality is important if you want to go for the beta bucks strategy. Women want an agreeable dude who will pay for their crap without complaining. And tolerate them having "girls' nights out" where they go to the club to "dance" with Chad. Most dudes don't want to be the beta bucks and they are completely justified in that. Let's not even get started on the "halo effect" and people's tendency to project positive traits onto attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:41 AM
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At least one neurodivergent person in the study was rated as well as neurotypical people across all categories. And the observers weren't detecting autism, they were detecting awkwardness, which is a lot more reasonable. Go to the gym to build more natural movement patterns. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:57 AM
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Then how are those women finding out that you are neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:39 AM
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Why are you telling people that you are neurodivergent? It seems like an American thing since y'all obsessed with getting diagnosed and putting labels on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:34 AM
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Which makes it extra funny because the general public has been misled into taking those studies at face value because science!!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:22 PM
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People who don't have a degree in social / political science underestimate just how easy it is to produce a study with the "correct" findings while still being rigorous and passing peer review.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 05:51 PM
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Other housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 02:04 PM
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It depends a lot on the hobbies. There are some that are just too niche / high entry barrier. For example: I like horror movies. I could reasonably introduce someone I'm dating to horror movies because there's a ton of them and there is something for everyone. That works. Counterexample: I like technical metal. Introducing someone to technical metal is borderline impossible because metal (even more pop-friendly power metal) already sounds too harsh and abrasive to most people, and technical meta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:57 AM
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But how about you, do you actually find the success you seek online? Several dates, one long-term relationship. The dates were much funner and more chill than the ones I got by cold approaching because we actually had things to do and talk about instead of me having to come up with crap to keep a conversation going. I also met one of my best friends online (not on a dating app though, we played an online game together). Have nearly identical interests but she is lesbian. Still pretty awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 06:14 AM
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Well, it didn't work for me. I had many interests in common with my ex but not gaming. She got progressively more pissed off about my gaming to the point that I had to bullshit that I was "catching up on work" while I was actually playing games over at a friend's or my parents' house. It was making the relationship very stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 05:23 AM
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Aren't women the ones always banging on and on about men not caring about their hobbies? I have also spent decades going to concerts etc. I have only ever met one woman with the exact same interests as me and she is lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 05:07 AM
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Having similar interests + values and goals is not exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 05:04 AM
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Say you go to a heavy metal concert. Only like 10% of the audience are women. Maybe 30% if you are lucky. About 50% of them are attending with their boyfriends, the rest you aren't sure whether they are single or not. A large % of them just want to vibe to the music and don't want to be bothered. That leaves you with... maybe a dozen or so people at a medium-sized venue. Now what are the chances that one of those people will also find you attractive AND have gaming and anime as a hobby? Winning …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 05:02 AM
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Niche interests are even better when met in person. How? For example, say I'm looking for a woman who likes video games, heavy metal and anime. Plus she has to be single and approximately the same age as me. Where do I go?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 04:48 AM
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Sorry but if you are looking for compatibility, online dating is the only way to go. Matching with someone on a single interest in the real world is very rare. If you want to match on 2, 3 or more interests, it becomes impossible. For example, if you want to date a gamer lady who is also into heavy metal and anime, online dating is the only way you will ever meet one. The ability to match on niche interests far outweighs all of the negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 04:07 AM
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All women capable of carrying an automatic weapon are going to immediately get hired as a private army by the richest female billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:28 PM
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Who is going to send them to jail? They are going to immediately monopolize violence and gain control of the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:44 PM
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If you remove men, the bigger, stronger and more ruthless women just move in to fill the social niche that was left behind. And if you know your stats, women in lesbian relationships are only a bit less violent than men in heterosexual relationships. So now these big, strong and ruthless women start exploiting the shit out of other women but they can't even pull the sexist card anymore. You are back to square zero and potentially even worse. Oh yeah and you are looking at decades of extremely br…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:33 PM
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Sure, my beyond-surface-level thinking tells me that people overthink many things and look for meanings that aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:26 PM
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I'm not sure it's pure biology. Rather I'd say it's some unusual overlap of biology and socialization. In my experience, promiscuous men and women tend to have incredibly off-putting mannerisms and speech patterns. Watch any of the interviews with Bonnie Blue for example and you'll see what I'm talking about. Her facial expressions are very flat, she tends to stare a lot and blinks very rarely. I don't know about you but she triggers that "uncanny valley" feeling for me. Now I can't even begin t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:21 PM
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Sure. If we ever make contact with aliens, I'm sure there will be dozens of creative ways to insult them even before we know what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:09 PM
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Why wouldn't they? Language is fun and people are constantly coming up with new and creative ways to insult someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:02 PM
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I am asking why men do it to women. And I'm telling you exactly why men do it. When men insult someone, they don't really give it much thought. They just pick the first applicable insult that comes to mind. If they are insulting a guy for example, they will call him a d...head, a w...er, a b...end etc. There's dozens upon dozens of insults like that. It doesn't mean anything beyond the fact that you belong to a group of people to which a particular insult is applicable. 30 seconds later they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:55 PM
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Not wanting to date someone doesn't mean that you hate them. As for the slurs, women use those slurs as well. Actually they probably use gendered slurs even more than men do, it's just always behind someone's back. Men use much more varied and worse slurs for each other so it doesn't really mean much, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:18 PM
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Idk about that. With my ex, she asked me for my phone number within like 5 minutes of meeting me and the next day she bought me ice cream and started calling me cute. It was beyond obvious. I agree that this doesn't happen frequently though. But then a lot of guys end up in beta bucks situations because they don't know any better. Have some self-respect, fellas. Don't settle for "meh" relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:56 AM
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Just because women are willing to screw around with their hormones, it doesn't mean that men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:49 AM
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Step 1. Artificial wombs to sustain population levels while human labor is cheaper than robots. Step 2. Full automation of the economy when it is feasible. Step 3. Pray to whatever gods you believe in that the top 1% who run the world will feel charitable enough to keep other humans around. Or whichever AI god will be running the world. In the 22nd century someone will make a dark comedy movie about how the majority of humanity made itself irrelevant / extinct because dumb serfs didn't find each…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:05 AM
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Not men, governments. If it's impossible to convince women to have children, then the obvious solution is to create artificial wombs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:55 AM
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Some countries are already actively investing into artificial wombs. What happens when corporations are allowed to 3d print new humans? They are not going to make the environment safer for women because that is expensive. Artificial wombs are cheaper. What happens to women when they lose their main bargaining chip?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:47 AM
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What percentage of longterm monogamous pairings in pre-modern monogamous cultures featured the woman having both deep love (whatever that is) for her mate while also a lifelong sex life where she had 'true burning desire' for her man the whole time? It's a modern view on the problem. You would expect medieval people to be completely miserable because of their living conditions, and yet they persisted and created amazing works of science and art. Depressed people don't do that. Same goes for rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:36 AM
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Doesn't sound right to me. People didn't evolve to be addicted to screens and yet here we are. It's just modern crap hijacking the brain's reward circuitry and making people behave in a number of weird and anti-social ways. Non-monogamous societies are neither stable nor prosperous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:19 AM
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The vast majority of women are only about 5 minutes away from installing a dating app and having a buffet of Chads (and Stacies) to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:48 AM
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The men who possess this attitude about life are not the men who are going to be raising the next generation of children… Haha lol. Instead they are going to be raised by an ever-increasing number of single mothers, political cultist / activist parents or in non-traditional households. And worst of all, feminist mothers who don't understand how much of the male behavior is biologically driven (testosterone etc). That will absolutely not lead to a disaster in several decades. There's a reason why…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:44 AM
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Lol good luck trying to brainwash hundreds of thousands of years of evolution out of someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:38 AM
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I don't think the effect is entirely baseless. There are a couple of women who are genuinely wonderful but the rest are essentially getting a free ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:57 PM
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That's the fun part, she was extremely stubborn about daily chores. If she started doing something, she wouldn't let me help no matter what. So I had for example a very small window of opportunity during which I could start making dinner by myself, or else I was banned from the kitchen for the evening. It was very stressful trying to figure out when she was about to start doing something and get ahead of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:48 PM
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Lol and then women act surprised why guys care about the n-count. If you are dating a high n-count woman, you are very likely to end up in this exact situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 05:10 PM
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The liberal approach to dealing with mental illness is completely wrong and either kicks the can down the road (best case scenario) or makes someone literally go insane (worst case scenario). You can't improve someone's mental health by putting them on a chemical cocktail. You improve it by promoting a healthy lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:42 PM
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