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| 5 | Is it possible to live a happy life without a girlfriend in the long term?Complex topics deserve more than a couple paragraphs lol. I've dealt with this a lot, and there's a lot to say. OP doesnt seem too interested in the advice being passed around so far, so a deeper explanation seemed to be in order | /r/TheRedPill | 06/10/25 07:02 PM |
| 4 | Is it possible to live a happy life without a girlfriend in the long term?Exactly. Just like those couples who think having a kid will fix their marriage. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/10/25 05:10 PM |
| 6 | Is it possible to live a happy life without a girlfriend in the long term?Get off the internet. Go outside. Change your diet to something healthier, be more active. Paint, draw, work out, go do some social hobbies. Not because you want to make friends or find a lover, but becuase YOU want to do them. No one wants to be around you because YOU don't want to be around you. And people can tell. If you like yourself, people will like you too. You complain that people make fun of you? Why does that matter? Those people are assholes anyway. Why are you giving them the time o… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/10/25 05:07 PM |
| 5 | Is it possible to live a happy life without a girlfriend in the long term?Is it possible to have a happy life with a girlfriend? I had a girl for about a year, and we were dating pretty seriously. I slowly came to realize that I was only happy when I was with her. This was a shocking realization, and one I did not like. You cannot let all your happiness rest on the shoulders of another person. Not only does it then weigh on them to make sure you are always happy, but these people are inevitably imperfect, and will fail you in time. As the years pass, the love you had … | /r/TheRedPill | 06/10/25 05:07 PM |
| 2 | How is this subreddit considered as redpilled/incelsThose are insults used when they don’t want to/can’t win arguments against us. They’ll just call us Incels and tell us to fuck off. Doesn’t matter how peaceful you are. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/21 01:10 PM |
| 32 | What happened to r/mgtow is a wake up call for r/mensrightsMGTOW wasn't the greatest sub. It had it's faults. But freedom of speech is important all the same, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. What's more, they still had very valid points, even if they were rather strongly worded. I agreed with all of their talking points. When you cut out the tongue of your opponent, you're proving them right. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/21 11:00 PM |
| 3 | Well Female Nature could be learnt from anywhere.... anytime... even from the mangaMight have to look up what's happening here later... | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/08/21 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Well Female Nature could be learnt from anywhere.... anytime... even from the mangasource? Context? | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/21 09:11 PM |
| -3 | I am starting to hate women. Please HelpI'm seeing a lot of this myself. Best thing to do is cut them out of your life. Find yourself a hobby you enjoy, and focus on improving yourself. If you're still interested in finding a wife like I am, (Even though we've both heard all the stories, we still want a family. It's just in our blood. Some people have to be burned or their hearts won't listen.) keep a passive interest in it. Don't seek out wife material, just vet it when it enters your area of life, and give it a few years to gestate.… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/07/21 01:57 AM |
| 7 | Women being proud for getting arrested?It shouldn’t have to be this way. But it is. Still, if you open a history book, this kind of thing happens right near the end of a civilization. So don’t worry too much. Give it a decade or two, and they’ll come crawling back for security. You’ll have your pick of the lot, assuming you’ve got sustainability. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/07/21 11:32 PM |
| 3 | Men of Reddit, do you agree with the saying “only women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are only loved under the condition they provide something.”?The only ones who have ever loved me unconditionally are my Dad, my Dog, and my God. Everyone else has always wanted or expected something from me. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/21 11:09 AM |
| 4 | How to Quit Porn AddictionI feel that. You should be allowed to pole holes. Truth does not mind being question, but lies will always hate it. I’ve personally never found a hole that hasn’t been filled, but it’s different for everyone. I’m glad you’re enjoying your hobbies. That’s a great first step towards being free. My struggle has always been the stress of “I could go do something fun... or I could wack off and get pleasure right away.” Then I’m lethargic and unmotivated for the rest of the day. It’s a horrible cycle. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/06/21 03:57 PM |
| 4 | How to Quit Porn Addictionr/NoFap r/pornfree They’ll be able to help you better than I can, I’m stuck in the same boat. Still, I’ve been reading my Bible and that’s been helping as well. So I recommend giving religion a shot. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/06/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | I miss femininityUnfortunately, this dream is the lie we’ve all been sold. I would love it just as much as you would, but the chances of finding a woman like are akin to that of a unicorn offering you brunch tomorrow. Quite honestly, society would need to collapse heavily, for us to see anything along the lines of what we want. When there is no punishment for acting upon your base desires, there is no reason to think. Even religious women have an easy time, because the repercussions can be hidden from their chur… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/05/21 12:35 AM |
| 19 | Stop posting "Reasons to stay mgtow bro" low effort garbage here.Thank you for this. This sub is one of the few havens away from all the red pill rage. I like being able to discuss things without simps being present, but it gets annoying to hear “whamen bad” over and over again. We’re going our own way, their actions shouldn’t be concerning us here. This is a sub for discussing the new fire pit you built, or your recovery from alcoholism. It is supposed to be a healthy place to seek refuge from the hate of the world. Even if it is hate you agree with, it is s… | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/05/21 09:27 PM |
| 1 | I think I’m being trapped into fatherhoodBaby-trapping is common, mate. Ignorance will not get you out of it. Why take the chance of a hidden STD or not being on Birth Control. Always be the responsible one. The pleasure isn’t worth the consequences. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/21 10:50 PM |
| 1 | I think I’m being trapped into fatherhoodShould wrapped your tool. Kinda your fault here, mate. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/21 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Should I stay or should I go?It's a good idea. Keep it going. Every man needs a bro right now. We shouldn't have to deal with all this shit alone. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/03/21 07:47 AM |
| 1 | Should I stay or should I go?I know it’s a little childish to think of, but I was thinking of starting an Order of Knights. Knights in general are very masculine, while also allying themselves to a creed or set of ideals. A group of individuals set on helping others, regardless of their differences. This can cover anything from soup kitchens to defending others. The whole idea is to rally a community, to create a family of loyal brothers, who will always be there for you. And while I wouldn’t mind women having a hand in it,… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/03/21 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Should I stay or should I go?I’m staying for others, tbh. I’m only 20 now, so I haven’t done much. But I have plans to open up an area for kids who’ve been fucked over by their families. A safe space where manliness can be encouraged. Some homelives suck ass, and I just wanna be there for them. Give them a place where things aren’t horrible. I’ve got a few other plans for it, but that’s the gist of it. For me, being selfish is hard. I grew up my whole life being selfless for my family, and it’s just not in my nature to fuck… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/03/21 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Do religious and Conservative women act like the #girlpower "You go girl!" kind of women?I mean, it’s definitely the place to start looking if you’re still shopping for a partner. That being said, many of them still grew up on Disney movies, and those don’t mix well with religion. They will mix their favorite parts of their shows with their favorite parts of religion, and come out thinking they are a princess. If you want to find a Unicorn, the church is the place to look. But keep your awareness up. You are less likely to find feminazis there, but they are still women in the end. N… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/03/21 06:25 AM |
| 2 | How to stop thinking about "love"?Yeah, it’s just not quite as catchy. I like the gloom well enough though | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/02/21 06:17 AM |
| 4 | How to stop thinking about "love"?That’s fair, I suppose. I just wouldn’t refer to it as rage, even if it is the common term used. It’s easy to confuse MGTOW for Incel when rage starts getting tossed into the mix. Besides, rage is a horrible word to describe utter apathy and depression. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/02/21 06:11 AM |
| 2 | How to stop thinking about "love"?Thanks. Heh, in-person activities. I should try to pick some of those up again. Most I’m doing rn is a weekly DnD session. Probably the most fun I’ve had all year. Otherwise, maybe I’ll set an obnoxious alarm for 6am, put the clock across the room, and hit the gym every morning. The first step to staying out of bed is not snoozing your alarm and getting up immediately. Anything to break the many bad habits I’ve formed as a teen. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/02/21 06:01 AM |
| 6 | How to stop thinking about "love"?No, this isn’t Red-Pill rage. I’ve always been relatively apathetic to chicks in general. (Porn addiction would be a part of the problem there.) Being religious, I subscribe to the idea that all people are created in the image of God and are worthy of the same respect. I don’t hate women. You grow up always hearing about cheating and divorce and stuff, then MGTOW hits and everything is laid out flat before you and you’re just like “Yeah, that lines up pretty well with everything I’ve already see… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/02/21 05:57 AM |
| 5 | How to stop thinking about "love"?I mean, being 20 right now, I’ve kinda only just started understanding my emotions, then Quarantine hit. Before that, I was just a geek who liked his video games. I think what I’m missing is friends in general. Never had too many, and chose poorly when I did. (Closest things I had to best friends were/are a possible Schizophrenic, and a druggie who likes to drink his problems away. Not exactly the greatest people to hang out with.) I’m picky with who I spend time with, which generally leads to m… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/02/21 05:49 AM |
| 14 | How to stop thinking about "love"?Also wondering this, as a young MGTOW. We were promised a soulmate, a happy marriage, and while I am perfectly aware that this is not reality anymore, I can’t help but wish for that romantic ideal. Course, I’m mega-depressed, so getting out of that funk will probably help quite a bit. Ultimately, I don’t feel like there is anything wrong with feeling this way. Pretty much everyone did at one point. The trick is figuring out where to go from herw. | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/02/21 04:16 AM |
| 3 | I don't care about women. I care about money.I’ve picked up a trade. It gives you handy skills, and pays well. Otherwise, many people struggle simply because they dont want to put in the effort. Analyze your life and cut out the parts that aren’t contributing to your success. Having a hobby is fine, and downtime is good. But they can quickly leads to a sluggish lifestyle. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/01/21 06:27 PM |
| 1 | HelpYou didnt mention any kids? Good. An undeniable skill of any man is the ability to build yourself up from nothing. Ditch the marriage, the house, the job, everything. Chuck your phone off a bridge. Move to a new town. Never look back. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/01/21 05:23 PM |
| 5 | I envy those of you who got away from a corporate job so muchScreenshotted that. Thanks :) | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/01/21 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Book ListGot that one on Audiobook. COuldn't hurt to have a physical copy as well. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/01/21 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Ended my first relationship today.It doesn't feel like it, but I guess I wouldnt know. This was my first relationship. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/12/20 11:26 PM |
| 2 | Ended my first relationship today.I was willing to keep trying at the relationship, but she felt it was better for us both if we split. I agreed with her reasoning in the end. She may have been a Unicorn, but a unicorn is not what I need right now. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Ended my first relationship today.I wish the church would be a little more proactive about this kind of stuff. It used to be all fire and brimstone. But now, when we need that most, the church is all lovey dovey and weak. Jesus was a hard man who spoke hard truths. People respect a man for standing up for himself and what he believes. Or at least they used to. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Ended my first relationship today.My dad always said "You ain't a man until you've wasted $5000." I guess this is just a bit more on the pile. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Ended my first relationship today.It is good to remember that many great leaders were never married. It is actually far better for you to lead your Christian life as though you will never get married. You will be able to devote your life fully to God's will, and be unmoved by women. If it is his will that any of us be married, he will bring the right woman along when the time is right. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Ended my first relationship today.This wasn't orchestrated, I'm afraid. This was her getting annoyed because of many things I said. (I didn't want to believe the world of her sister over a large compilation of video evidence, God doesn't have as big of a presence in my life, etc...) Some of her reasons I agreed with, and we ultimately ended the relationship on friendly terms. However, I learned not to sh*t where I eat. It was real awkward working with her for the past few days. Now if only I hadn't already bought her gifts bc sh… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Ended my first relationship today.We are both Christian, but she was a little more strict than I was. The guys I was gaming with were actually mega-toxic (One used the N-word on the regular) and they weren't a good influence. As for shows, I dislike having to preview stuff before watching it with others. It's super annoying. She mainly just had a problem with things like Deadpool, which I personally found hilarious. Yeah, she really wasnt perfect. But in the effed up world we live in, she was pretty close to a unicorn. At least … | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Ended my first relationship today.Yup, I believe all of that. The reality is looking to be a holocaust-esqe scenario, with 'dissenters' in camps. That's gonna be us Christians. (I believe Revelations says something about how the Rapture will happen after all the chosen martyrs have died. So MGTOW is a good place to train ourselves to be unwavering in our beliefs.) | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 03:01 AM |
| 5 | Ended my first relationship today.sorry mate, it's gonna be at least a decade before I can even start. I'm only 20. Endevors like this take large amounts of money, so I gotta live frugally for the next decade or two before I can really get the ball rolling. I've got no locations picked out, nothing more than a basic idea. Ive got 20 years to give it some polish, and I wanna do the best I can. Edit: That being said, I am still in the middle of choosing careers. I don't really have any care for what job I work. I can be good at an… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/20 02:59 AM |
| 19 | Ended my first relationship today.Yeah, I struggle with that a lot, and I've come up with my own solutions. Im going to found a Youth Center primarily for young boys who just need a place to escape society. Weight room, library, sport field, the works. A place to chill with the bros and not have to worry about shitty home lifes. I'd like to open it to guys in general, but I suppose I'd have to start a membership program to be able to screen people. Not everyone is a friend. But yeah, I could easily spend the rest of my life surr… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/11/20 11:43 PM |
| 12 | Ended my first relationship today.I just like the idea of finding the truth is all. We are being lied to daily here in America, and uncovering that truth and spreading it can be fun. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/11/20 11:40 PM |
| 2 | My friend thinks it's weird I like the united states, it gave me great insight as to how liberals think.Florida sounds like a good option for you. You'll probably find some good friends who've come from similar situations. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/11/20 05:33 PM |
| 7 | My friend thinks it's weird I like the united states, it gave me great insight as to how liberals think.The race issues in America arent as bad as the media portrays them to be. You'll probably see one or two in the south, but by and large, most people have accepted that people who look different are still people. The gun problems you hear about in the media are only one side of the equation. Many of us gun owners believe that if our children were taught the value of human life, as well as proper gun safety in schools, these shootings would happen a lot less. Texas and Florida are both pretty grea… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/11/20 05:20 PM |
| 13 | Cult of misogyny poisoning minds: LAURA BATES discovers boys are being brainwashed to hate womenGee, I wonder who is doing the brainwashing? Maybe the women telling us we're all shit? | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/11/20 08:39 PM |
| 50 | So lucky to have found this subYou are 15. You feel this way now, but hormones are a bitch. Get into a relationship at some point, but be picky and know your worth. Dont get married. But experience firsthand what it can be like. Never take another person's word for it, understand for yourself why so many of us are completely done. Otherwise, you'll end up wondering at some point if this was really the right choice. The grass always looks greener on the other side, even if it's not. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/20 04:41 PM |
| 5 | Something I've noticed (and have noticed for a number of years).....We've just all gotten sick of how screwy the world is right now. From my perspective, it has always been about knowing I am worth being treated with respect, and then treating others with the same respect I know I need. And I think all men get this in the same way we get everything else. There isn't a lot of communication. It just makes sense. | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/20 04:28 PM |
| 2 | This guy left because he found his unicorn 🦄. Good luck, buddy :)I mean, he's going his own way. Whether or not it is the right way isn't really up to us. Life is all about self-improvement, and many people learn well from failure. Don't blame him for giving it a shot. We all had that dream at one point. Either he finds his unicorn, or he comes back a changed man. It doesn't really affect us either way. We're doing our own thing, and just here to help others along the way. If he doesnt want that, good for him. I'm sure he'll be fine. I've found most guys can … | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/20 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Trying to avoid sweets but have a killer sweet tooth. Any recommendations?There are lots of sweet fruits. I quite enjoy peaches. Find a healthy alternative that you enjoy, and buy those when you want to snack. If I have the munchies, I can eat a whole bag of baby carrots. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/11/20 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Calm Down. The Election is the signal for you to go your own way, not for the apocalypseSeason 3, episode 1, according to Google. | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/20 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Calm Down. The Election is the signal for you to go your own way, not for the apocalypser/simpleliving otherwise, I got no clue. | /r/MGTOW | 08/11/20 06:18 AM |
| 28 | Calm Down. The Election is the signal for you to go your own way, not for the apocalypseI need the quiet. Desperately. Also, I will go insane if I have to listen to Mom and Dad argue about finances forever. I dont have the bonds you do, I quite dislike most members of my family. My older brother could never hold his punches, and my younger brother is a little jerk who refuses to do anything to help out around the house. They are both well into or past their teenage years, and this attitude should not continue. I do not trust anyone in my family except my father. My mother means wel… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/20 06:07 PM |
| 58 | Calm Down. The Election is the signal for you to go your own way, not for the apocalypseThis whole thing reminds me a bit of that one episode of Black Mirror. People who cared about society had to play nice with everyone, because anyone could ruin their day. But the lower classes didn't have to or want to care. Definetly gonna look more into simple living. My only reason for wanting a Trump victory would be because it would give me 4 more years to try and prepare myself. I'm still living with my parents, I'm not ready to move out or make any huge financial decisions. I need that ex… | /r/MGTOW | 07/11/20 04:39 PM |
| 0 | Fellow gentlemen, what is your view on the feminist trope" men should be encouraged to express their emotions"?I personally quite enjoy understanding my emotions. Expressing them, however, is rather unsafe. Speaking my mind on many things is unsafe these days, so I prefer figuring them out myself for the most part. Expressing my emotions is not wrong. However, feminists get angry when we express emotions that do not fall in line with their worldview. A wife-beater is expressing his emotions. This is not a good thing. They are not being specific in what they want. What they want is beta males. A man can h… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/11/20 07:36 PM |
| 37 | Dear God, I hope Trump wins tomorrowIf Biden wins, he'll be kicked out within three months for either being a senile old fool, or for selling our country to China. Harris will be in, and America will become communist. | /r/MGTOW | 03/11/20 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Found on FaceBook.I mean, they're not wrong | /r/MGTOW | 02/11/20 11:22 PM |
| 47 | Japan is becoming the MGTOW country100 times this. The story we were sold of the Nuclear family was appealing to almost everyone. A bargin had been struck. In exchange for free food and shelter, women would help raise our children and keep the place clean. Men would naturally pitch in wherever they could, those generally being the hard labor tasks, and the women would cover the rest. When both sides kept up the agreement, life was pretty good. The man earned the money, so he got to decide what went where. The woman was just anoth… | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/20 05:23 AM |
| 24 | Vent: I left the men's bible study at my church because the men constantly complained about their marriagesYeah, I've stopped going to church for this reason. There is nothing there for me right now. I'd be better off starting my own. I still read my Bible, but the church is filled with ideas that are counter to the word. They'll talk about how you need to be good to your wife, which the Bible does say, but they will never mention how your wife needs to be good to you. I spent years listening to my mother call every woman beautiful, even the ones that weren't. That's not a compliment, and it's not a … | /r/MGTOW | 29/10/20 04:44 PM |
| 6292 | Holy shitShe deserved all of that. The hope. The joy. the dream. And then the crushing humiliation. That man was a true king. A man who knew he was worth more than being her sloppy seconds. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 28/10/20 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Grandmother and Sister confirm Mom lied about dadHave you spoken to your dad at all? You should if you get the chance, I think he would be very happy to have someone on his side. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/10/20 08:59 PM |
| 1 | why do christcucks keep appearing in mgtow/male-spaces/pua and try to convert us to their church?Well, for us, all sin is equal. It's sounds harsh, but a lie is just as bad as murder in the eyes of God. I could expand on the reasoning for this, but it's not the point. Everyone has done something that is against God's will. It is inevitable. The point is trying to work past that. When you trip and fall, you get back up. You are right, it is super odd to be evangelizing in the pickup artist community, as most of them are there to pick up chicks, which is against God's will. Evangelizing in th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/10/20 02:05 AM |
| 1 | why do christcucks keep appearing in mgtow/male-spaces/pua and try to convert us to their church?It's because we believe everyone should be given the chance. From my perspective, everyone wants to care about the children in Africa, but no one cares for their own neighbors. You are right that it is a little odd for people to be evangelizing in spaces focused around those. Most christian men wouldn't be there for any other reason, and it can be a little rude. However, I am assuming you are talking about MGTOW specifically, and I would like to note that those two things are not the only focus … | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/10/20 12:40 AM |
| 1 | why do christcucks keep appearing in mgtow/male-spaces/pua and try to convert us to their church?You're a little hard to understand here. What exactly are you trying to say. As a so-called "Christcuck", I'm just relaxing and doing my own thing. I believe what I believe, and if you wanna join in, you can. But if you don't want to, it's not my problem. There is no one I would not want in my church. Everyone should be allowed the chance to hear God's word. I find it unlikely that you would drink or have sex in church, as most people have enough respect for another person's religion to not dist… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/10/20 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Female Nature. Deceit and using others for utility is simply what makes a female a female. GYOW boys.I never said fixing it would be easy. I aint no politician, and I aint no mechanic. If I tried to fix a busted car, I could just as easily make it worse. Any suggestion I could make for fixing our broken system would undeniably be torn apart. Any person can look at a broken car and see it needs to be fixed. A smart man calls a mechanic. A wise man calls his friend, the mechanic, and learns how to fix it so he can fix it again later. A fool glares at the driver of the car and expects them to fix … | /r/MGTOW | 19/10/20 06:14 PM |
| -1 | Female Nature. Deceit and using others for utility is simply what makes a female a female. GYOW boys.I never said they weren't part of the system. In fact, I explicitly said they were a part of it. Tell me they didn't let this happen. If I recall correctly, women didn't always have the rights to vote. Sure, they argued and pissed and moaned, but who gave them the power in the first place. The old laws were built around the old women. The new women dont have respect for the old laws, and have found work-arounds. Humanity can't be fixed, this is a basic premise. Fix the machine instead. It is a f… | /r/MGTOW | 19/10/20 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Female Nature. Deceit and using others for utility is simply what makes a female a female. GYOW boys.I'm saying society as in Everyone. Everyone did this. I'm not saying they are not in the wrong. I am saying you need to focus on the reason they do this, rather than what they do. Our society is cancer. It's awful. Yet we cannot lay the blame solely at their feet, for they were not the only ones behind it. Quit hiding behind your little screens and ask youself why you are okay with sitting back and letting it happen. Abscence of voice is voting for the loudest side. Everyone is in the wrong here… | /r/MGTOW | 19/10/20 05:06 PM |
| -2 | Female Nature. Deceit and using others for utility is simply what makes a female a female. GYOW boys.They take full advantage of the situations they are surrounded by. It's not female nature. It is simply them using their brain. Anyone can do that. They just have the advantage of an attractive body that they can use for profit for a short time. Males can use their brain too. It's not hard. Anyone can lie. But you are calling out people and animals on a specific lie and expecting praise. A lie is a lie, whether it is about your body or your taxes or what ever the fuck else. Don't be such a child… | /r/MGTOW | 19/10/20 03:34 PM |
| -2 | Female Nature. Deceit and using others for utility is simply what makes a female a female. GYOW boys.I mean... This is just smart panda being smart... And if you really look at it, yeah, women act exactly the same way. They've realized they can get exactly the same reward for little to know effort. It's like getting paid to work 40 hours a week, but you don't have to come in. It's really a no brainer. If I didn't have to work my dead end job, and I could still get paid, I would do it too. I'm coming to realize that the problem lies not with women, but with a society that allows them to act this… | /r/MGTOW | 19/10/20 03:24 PM |
| 1 | My son's turned 14 and starts talking about girls. How do I explain him woman psychology without negativity ?Show him examples in films and movies and subtly point out how trashy she is for doing that. Let him form his own opinions, and encourage him to come to you for advice. Be there to listen to him, and if he wants to come to you to talk about a girl, don't automatically shame him for it. Some people only learn through personal experience, and he may have to fall on his face a few times before he stops simping. But having you there will make that recovery far easier. | /r/MGTOW | 19/10/20 03:10 PM |
| 11 | You can't even enjoy a show without tons of political propagandaGrab some Gilligan's Island or MASH. All the good shows are old shows these days. | /r/MGTOW | 06/10/20 03:32 AM |
| 3 | What the fuck is this shit?Perfect for the pub. Yeah, I've been looking to get into more fights lately. | /r/MGTOW | 04/10/20 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Don't become the monsters you fight.This. This so much. I got so tired of MGTOW for a while, because I realized very quickly that a majority of people here were just as hateful as the people they stood against. It was not a pleasant sight. In my mind, Kindness makes the world go round. Kindness can kill a feminist. You stand there long enough, smiling and nodding, and not saying anything agains them as they get angrier and angrier, and other people will start to take notice. It pisses people off when they cant get you angry, and t… | /r/MGTOW | 30/09/20 04:09 PM |
| 10 | In an attempt to avoid validating women that are fishing for compliments, what would be the proper response to a women that asks for/expects my opinion on her outfit, perfume, etc.?Just treat them like another dude, like they have always wanted. Lay the truth on them like a ten-ton slab | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 03:48 PM |
| 6 | Why MGTOW? Because when you see women for what they truly are vs. the mirage they want you to see, the decision to GYOW becomes an easy one.Ugh, am I the only one who thinks the first image is prettier? Not because of aesthetic looks, but because I know she has a better chance of being honest with me. Women get away with so much because they can hide behind their masks. Take those away and they are just another human. Women like this are not worth anyone’s time. | /r/MGTOW | 23/08/20 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Do you think you'll ever reconsider your MGTOW lifestyle?It’s important to notice two things. 1: This group is filled with men who have either been through the rigamarole of marriage, or havent. This suggests that this lifestyle permeates decades of our lives, and is relevant as a result. The facts seem to say that in all reality, a happy wife does not make a happy life, simply because most of them cannot ever be made happy. Happiness is something each person must create on their own. 2: However, it is important to hold ourselves to the same standards… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 04:31 PM |
| 1 | How many of you are ACTUALLY going your own way?I feel like you are looking at this the wrong way. I think your perception of your own status is still colored by society. I get wanting real status, but who do you want that for? Because if you want it for yourself, then the standards for status change dramatically. Women are nice to look at, but in the end, most of them are decorative. Building your sense of status around what you think they’ll like is a road built to fail. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 04:16 PM |
| 2 | Movies about MGTOW/Non-romantic loveThe Emperors new groove, Onward | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 05:21 AM |
| 5 | What do you think of cats?They’re neat companions for when you feel like doing nothing. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/08/20 11:31 AM |
| 2 | Working on expanding myselfI can see that. I’m probably gonna do more with meat though. You can do so much with meat | /r/MGTOW | 16/07/20 06:17 PM |
| 4 | Disney finally made a non-cucked movie. It is not MGTOW but no much feminist crap. Seems men's movie boycotting worked.It was nice to see a movie similar to the Emperor’s New Groove in terms of Broship. No need to worry about the damsel in distress, just classic bonding between brothers, on a quest to see their dad. | /r/MGTOW | 15/07/20 04:43 AM |
| 2 | [RANT] I am shockedThere are some toxic elements. Some members have been hurt badly, and will spend some time raging, and posting about how much women suck all the time. And to be fair, they have been hurt quite badly. However, that is not the focus of MGTOW. The acronym is Men Going Their Own Way. There is nothing about anger there. The idea is that you do you, and I’ll do me, and we don’t screw each other. We just want to be left alone. So yeah, there are a lot of dudes here in their rage phase, but it will pass… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/06/20 07:00 PM |
| 5 | A real heroDespite it probably being a copy, I personally don’t see anything wrong with it. There are plenty of young women who could probably use the advice, so long as it is sound. If it’s run by a feminist though, it’s not gonna be worth much. | /r/MGTOW | 26/06/20 08:59 PM |
| 7 | The last of us 2 reviews are bombingTo be fair, we fans of the game all knew he was gonna for. It’s kinda standard. But the way they killed him was just shitty | /r/MGTOW | 21/06/20 06:19 AM |
| 25 | Koreans twitch streamer so angry with tlou2 that he just destroys the discs. Get woke get broken.Yup. Sounds about right. | /r/MGTOW | 21/06/20 04:18 AM |
| 52 | The last of us 2 reviews are bombingIt’s not even that the characters are lgbt, (although that isn’t helping matters.) They’ve gone and butchered beloved characters, and replaced them with virtue signaling planks of wood with makeup. The story is just awful, and the characters have almost no driving motivations. | /r/MGTOW | 21/06/20 02:53 AM |
| 1 | I know this seems petty, but anytime you have to put someone as the instigator of an issue in a public display, it’s always a white man. I can’t imagine the roles being reversed on this poster in today’s world and that’s kind of ridiculous.Man, nothing about this poster is true. Did the WHO get up on stage the other day and release a statement about how those who show no symptoms cannot transmit?! | /r/MensRights | 20/06/20 06:04 PM |
| 6 | That totally happenedI’d believe the opposite happened tho | /r/MGTOW | 19/06/20 10:59 PM |
| 1 | is christianity bluepilled & cucked religion? but the fact is this, male is disposable sex.We are not discussing whether or not he died for us, we are discussing whether it was done in a way that would imply a bluepilled view of the world. Please try to keep up, it is not useful to the conversation at hand if I have to go back and explain why we have already moved past said topic. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/06/20 06:33 PM |
| 1 | is christianity bluepilled & cucked religion? but the fact is this, male is disposable sex.This has nothing to do with the topic that was brought up. It seems to be engineered purely to make me trap myself in a hole of contradiction. Please try to stay on topic, my dude. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/06/20 06:24 PM |
| 1 | is christianity bluepilled & cucked religion? but the fact is this, male is disposable sex.Depends on the context, as well as what you are looking to draw from that statement. Did he die for what is more commonly known as the Body of Christ? Yes, he absolutely laid down his life for us. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/06/20 04:43 PM |
| 1 | is christianity bluepilled & cucked religion? but the fact is this, male is disposable sex.No, the problem is that the society surrounding the religion is blue pilled. The religion itself requires that the couple be honorable towards each other, and that if one should cheat on the other, it is considered perfectly reasonable to divorce them. The religion itself is quite solid. But the society surrounding it is heavily influenced by the world. The problem is that in terms of marriage and partnership, the religion runs on the assumption that both partners will be faithful. In that regar… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/06/20 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Damn why am I so attracted to womenNothing wrong with being attracted to them. God designed them to be beautiful. MGTOW is all about knowing the truth, and then going your own way. No one said you had to go away from them. | /r/MGTOW | 19/06/20 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Guys, slow down a second...Mate, all I was saying was that I saw another MGTOW post complaining about this shit, and I was tired of it | /r/MGTOW | 13/06/20 06:27 PM |
| 27 | Ya’ll gotta hear this. This is the kind of shit women are up to.We’re all pretty sure that’s what she’s doing, yeah. | /r/MGTOW | 10/06/20 03:56 PM |
| 17 | GYOW.He’s really not wrong... | /r/MGTOW | 08/06/20 06:54 PM |
| 3 | Nah, I'm goodWell, that’s the thing. They want that from us, but are they willing to offer it in return? The biggest problem with marriage is that women are not willing to offer anything, yet they expect so much. I’d be perfectly fine with marriage if it meant we were both getting something out of the equation. | /r/MGTOW | 04/06/20 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Really ?Hard pass, Karen. That meme has been around for years, you ain’t getting rid of it that easily | /r/MGTOW | 02/06/20 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Renting a wife (seriously)If you are still looking for a wardrobe manager thing, I can recommend StitchFix. It’s pretty well put together, and I always feel like I’ve gotten my money’s worth from it. | /r/MGTOW | 31/05/20 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Advice for the younger brothers and few words of encouragement.See, I’m the kind of guy that looks at a person and sees a person. The main problem with feminism and MGTOW is that they both are trying to actively fuck over the other sex. I just wanna help. I don’t care who you are. I know people will say, “MGTOW is about going your own way, etc...” but looking at your comment right there, you are just as toxic as the women you despise. I just want to help people, not a specific subclass of people. | /r/MGTOW | 30/05/20 10:11 PM |
| 3 | Postnatal paternity test results!I never said he was running. It’s called restarting your life. And what does he care what they think? The people who matter know he’s not guilty. If someone thinks he’s guilty, their opinion doesn’t matter. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/20 04:59 PM |
| 2 | Advice for the younger brothers and few words of encouragement.Here’s my problem... The thing that brings me the most happiness is to bring other people happiness. I get bored of video games, exercise, music, anything. Nothing brings me joy more than helping other people. But I don’t know where to start. People suck so much, it’s hard to find a place where I feel like I can help, and where I feel like it will actually do something. For a while, I wanted to change the world, but that won’t happen. I’m just working on my degree at this point, and hoping I’ll … | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/20 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Postnatal paternity test results!Pack your shit, pick a new place to live, and get going. Assuming you can, it’s a great way to avoid all that stress. | /r/MGTOW | 29/05/20 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Any experiences with the "born again Christians" who rode the CC, lived the slut life, but suddenly become pure and "born again"?LDS claims to be Christian. The Catholic Church is not the mother church, Christianity split off from them. We refuse to be associated with their beliefs. This is not worth my arguing, you have your opinions and I have mine. If you don’t want to read it, I’m not gonna be able to convince you otherwise. Still, you don’t have to be so harsh about saying so. Have a good day. | /r/MGTOW | 11/04/20 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Any experiences with the "born again Christians" who rode the CC, lived the slut life, but suddenly become pure and "born again"?Definitely not trying to warn people away from religion here. Keep going with that. But social groups can suck to deal with. Like OP said, the old people are some of the best ones. I knew this 96 year old who was just the sweetest thing. As a teen, I was far more interested in hanging with her, than with the clicks that existed in the youth ministry. | /r/MGTOW | 11/04/20 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Any experiences with the "born again Christians" who rode the CC, lived the slut life, but suddenly become pure and "born again"?Some of the smaller churches are a bit better. Less of a gossip club. But it’s hard to find the right one. I would recommend picking a religion and going with it, rather than mashing several together. Most religions suggest that believing in other gods will deny you access to Heaven. Just a warning that being Agnostic might not be enough. Even though the church sucks, I do recommend Christianity. (Not LDS or Catholicism) It is by far the most likely to be accurate. Read the book “The Case for Ch… | /r/MGTOW | 11/04/20 03:10 PM |
| 31 | Any experiences with the "born again Christians" who rode the CC, lived the slut life, but suddenly become pure and "born again"?I hate the church... Christianity is all fine and good, I love it. But the church is no longer a place of worship. It’s no longer a place of study. It’s just another safe space. It’s not appropriate to talk about certain things in the church. God forbid you ever mention struggling to anyone. Don’t mention your horrific pornography addiction, don’t mention the 3am thoughts of murdering everyone, or how every once in a while, jumping doesn’t seem so bad. You can’t mention any of that because it wi… | /r/MGTOW | 11/04/20 04:38 AM |
| 10 | Wise words from Kazuma.The series plays his equality off as a joke, but it is exactly what we are looking for. A man who has no problem dropkicking a woman, who does not see why ladies should go first. | /r/MGTOW | 04/04/20 07:01 PM |
| 14 | I guess de were asking for too muchIsn’t it funny how this is what we were raised to want? How ever fiber of our beings wishes for this? But our logical brains know that this can no longer happen. Feminism went and ruined our chances of ever having a happy family. | /r/MGTOW | 03/04/20 04:51 PM |
| 3 | Embrace Masculinity as Superior & Femininity as Inferior. This is a beautiful thing & nothing wrong with the way Nature intended it.A woman’s mind is created to be better at multitasking. They just have the capacity to juggle more things at once. That being said, with a little effort, a man can quickly catch up to them. If you talk to a woman about their mind, the conclusion that is using come to is that it’s a bunch of open tabs, and they are constantly thinking about all of it, while men have our boxes, where we focus on what is in the specific box and nothing else. In this way, a woman’s mind is better suited for multitas… | /r/MGTOW | 02/04/20 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Embrace Masculinity as Superior & Femininity as Inferior. This is a beautiful thing & nothing wrong with the way Nature intended it.I do not agree with this. Just because women are better suited for the kitchen does not make them inferior. I believe Einstein once said something along the lines of “Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will spend its whole life believing it is stupid.” Women are natural multitaskers, educators, cooks and more. They are made to support, to raise a family, to make a house a home. They are not made to lead the pack, fight the fight, or stand at the top.… | /r/MGTOW | 02/04/20 10:48 PM |
| 3 | Not surprisedWait, Britain has a king?! | /r/MGTOW | 31/03/20 10:35 PM |
| 2 | I need male role modelsRon Motherfucking Swanson. A fictional character, I know. But he’s a dam good one | /r/MGTOW | 31/03/20 08:15 AM |
| 1 | So who is actually doing the work?But like? Three monitors are better? Because you can have more tabs open at once? And the clickity-clackity of the big ass keyboard? Is good? | /r/MGTOW | 27/03/20 03:57 PM |
| 5 | These are the type of people trying to get this sub banned.Had this happen to me. Best day of my life! | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/20 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Virtue Signalling.Probably would have been better if you have used parentheses (They are more useful when it comes to this kind of situation.) | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/20 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Virtue Signalling.No need to censor out the original, these groups are one and the same | /r/MGTOW | 25/03/20 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Mothers today are disgustingAlright then, best of luck to you | /r/MGTOW | 22/03/20 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Mothers today are disgustingI guess that’s a decent reason. Good luck with that, I guess. You’ll need to find a woman who is willing to have a child with you, but not hold onto if if you’re staying MGTOW. | /r/MGTOW | 22/03/20 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Mothers today are disgustingAlright? I’d be interested to know why you are so vehemently against raising a child who has no one else to rely on? | /r/MGTOW | 22/03/20 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Mothers today are disgustingAdopt. There are plenty of kids out there looking for a father. | /r/MGTOW | 22/03/20 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Besides MGTOW, how else do you views differ from the general publicI like to not trust the government. I like to know what’s in the vaccines before putting them in my body. | /r/MGTOW | 20/03/20 12:27 AM |
| 2 | Pay teachers MORE......I THINK NOT!I was homeschooled as a kid. Let me tell you, this works! I did a year of public school for dual credit stuff, and the kids I was in class with were morons! I had a friend failing art! Homeschooling is vital, and they will mock you for it, but it is so very important to the development of your child. I do recommend getting your kid invested in hobbies early though, I was incredibly lonely as a child, and while that improved my reading immensely, I was left starved for any attention at all. I mad… | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/20 09:41 PM |
| 6 | Muh EqualityThe man would still win, tbh | /r/MGTOW | 18/03/20 01:37 AM |
| 1 | My first SIMP stalker!Yeah, Im 19 and haven’t started college yet. I’m pretty sure I have to get a bachelors degree before I can start on a masters. | /r/MGTOW | 16/03/20 04:16 PM |
| 2 | My first SIMP stalker!I need to spend 6 years to get a masters in Prosthetics design, so I figured it’ll only be a few extra years to go all the way to a PhD. | /r/MGTOW | 16/03/20 03:56 PM |
| 2 | This is what a family used to be. This is what every man used to want. And then women went and ruined it. It’s really heartbreaking to know that I’ll never be able to give a child this because of a woman’s foolish actionsI think once I’ve gotten my life stable, I’m going to adopt. If I can’t have the wife, I’d still love a child | /r/MGTOW | 13/03/20 03:54 PM |
| 2 | In response to what u/JackHoffmantheWise posted, I looked up the context for the verse. The Bible is very accurate when it comes to how women should act.Sir, do you understand what unreasonable means? It means you are incapable of being reasoned with. You are clearly very angry and unwilling to listen to anything I have to say, so I do not feel like wasting my breath on you. From the sounds of it, it seems I must have said something incredibly horrific for you to be responding in such a manner. I apologize. | /r/MGTOW | 12/03/20 12:37 AM |
| 1 | In response to what u/JackHoffmantheWise posted, I looked up the context for the verse. The Bible is very accurate when it comes to how women should act.Right, you have clearly become hostile and unreasonable. I was hoping to have a calm discourse, but you are clearly unwilling to play nice. I’m sorry you feel this way. However, no minds can be changed when someone is unwilling to look at the problem from another person’s view. You seemed to be very angry when I simply mentioned that it wouldn’t hurt you at all to be a little nicer. I’m apologize for apparently heavily wounding your pride. I wish you the best of luck, sir. Have a good day, and G… | /r/MGTOW | 12/03/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | In response to what u/JackHoffmantheWise posted, I looked up the context for the verse. The Bible is very accurate when it comes to how women should act.What? I’m sorry, maybe your English is not very good, so I cannot quite understand what you are saying. Just because something is popular does not mean God approves of it. Yet he allows it to happen because humans are allowed to have free will. Quite frankly, it feels insulting when you call God a bullshit artist. | /r/MGTOW | 11/03/20 03:46 PM |
| 3 | There Are 3 RulesSomething like that. If you’ve ever seen the anime “Fairy Tail”, I want it to be a bit like that guild. A place where kids can come and have a real family, a place to grow their skills, a little job board off to the side for kids who wanna make a few bucks mowing lawns or something. And eventually, a place where adults who’ve spent their who life as a member, can turn it into something amazing. Not really a hotel, though keeping a few beds around for those who have nowhere else to go could be a … | /r/MGTOW | 05/03/20 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Will there be ever Modern Revolution?Mate, I’m 19 and over here dreaming of a revolution. I would personally love to get up on stage and declare our independence from the monstrosity that America has become. It is no longer the land of the free. I’m starting to wonder if I should put more effort into this idea, and see if it is actually possible. Get my hands on a license to make my own guns, stash a few hundred and prep for war against Liberals who don’t believe in Guns | /r/MGTOW | 05/03/20 07:17 PM |
| 11 | There Are 3 RulesI may have a suggestion. You noted that Men do have a biological instinct to prolong their legacy, but a family is too much of a risk. I’m currently working on college, planning to get a good job. And when all is said and done, when I’ve saved up enough, I plan to start a family in a different fashion. I will open up a place where young people can come to get away from the horrible world we live in. Some kids don’t have the greatest home life, and my goal is to have a kind of family not bound by… | /r/MGTOW | 05/03/20 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Circumcision is a barbaric actNo... I’m Christian. Back before the days of Christ, it was common for the Jews to circumcise their children. But now that all people are considered the children of God, circumcision does not seem necessary for salvation. I don’t know where you got the idea of Egyptian Paganism... | /r/MGTOW | 02/03/20 05:27 AM |
| 1 | Circumcision is a barbaric actI mean, I am circumcised, so I wouldn’t know. | /r/MGTOW | 02/03/20 05:26 AM |
| 7 | Circumcision is a barbaric actNow, I am actually a part of the religion that it originated from. In my personal opinion, it is no longer necessary. It was originally used as a mark of God’s chosen people. But after the events of the New Testament, wherein everyone is the “chosen one”, it should not be necessary any longer. | /r/MGTOW | 01/03/20 03:35 PM |
| 5 | The new movie the invisible manMan, and here I thought the movie looked like it would be pretty good. Is it really that bad? | /r/MGTOW | 26/02/20 06:12 AM |
| 1 | How do I be happy?Heh, I played video games and jacked off. That was my life for maybe three or four years | /r/MGTOW | 19/02/20 05:05 AM |
| 1 | How do I be happy?Heh, I’m probably just pretty lonely... single player games hold no joy for me, and multiplayer games are frustrating. I’d love to play halo, and experience the great story. But I’m just so lonely I’d rather spend time playing a game with strangers on the internet | /r/MGTOW | 19/02/20 05:04 AM |
| 6 | How do I be happy?How do you suggest I begin? | /r/MGTOW | 18/02/20 09:16 PM |
| 4 | Wait a second, that ... how is this possible😐.But... we never asked for that. Why the hell would we ever wanna be a part of the fucked up mess that is the alphabet community? | /r/MGTOW | 13/02/20 04:42 PM |
| 44 | We are hatedBut here’s a thought... While we watch this shitty world burn around us, shall we start prepping a new society to replace it. When they finally come crawling back, begging for us to fix the country they ruined, we will have a list of new laws set and ready to go, a system far less corrupt than the one we have now, a country where women will understand that they don’t have voting rights because last time they did, they fucked everything and everyone. | /r/MGTOW | 13/02/20 04:28 PM |
| 4 | MGTOW/Redpill Cured My TransgenderismAyy, good for you man! Appreciating the body God gave you is amazing, don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise! | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/02/20 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Parents are fighting over money againCan’t wear them while I sleep tho. Need to be able to hear my alarm go off in the morning | /r/MGTOW | 11/02/20 02:54 AM |
| 2 | Parents are fighting over money againOh yeah, I totally know I’m being manipulated. But as the child first in line for their will, the best I can do is grin and bear it. | /r/MGTOW | 10/02/20 11:35 PM |
| 3 | Parents are fighting over money againHe’s really not. Mom just grew up in a Christian household where divorce is looked down upon. Otherwise, she probably would’ve divorced him as soon as she found out he didn’t wanna finance a trip to some African country | /r/MGTOW | 10/02/20 08:33 PM |
| 6 | After 2 years of work, just got my book publishedAlways fun to see something like this! You go dude! | /r/MGTOW | 10/02/20 08:04 PM |
| 5 | Parents are fighting over money againThat’s the thing. So far, I’ve come to realize that I’m lucky enough to have a family that genuinely cares about sticking together. My grandfather on my dads side walked out on him, so dad never wanted that for his kids. Probably the only thing that’s kept him here. Mom is frustrating. I love her to pieces, but she’s got that stuck up Christian attitude that gets more annoying each day. I wouldn’t care so much, except the last time I actually spoke my mind to her, I had a morning shift, and was … | /r/MGTOW | 10/02/20 07:59 PM |
| 3 | So I just found this subGoing through with the arranged marriage doesn’t sound great... On the one hand, divorce rape doesn’t sound like an issue as you presented it. On the other hand, you’re kinda stuck with that bitch for the rest of your life. Not very appealing. Still it sounds like you’ve got a small niche carved out for yourself over there. Good for you! | /r/MGTOW | 02/02/20 04:12 PM |
| 5 | Too damn trueThey were told no as kids, so now they tell their kids yes to everything and all that it entails | /r/MGTOW | 26/01/20 02:07 AM |
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