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"Some of those guys are confident, socially adept, have lots of wingmen they can bring to the bar, and are...." yea thats like 1% 😂 If women are filtering those guys out on the apps primarily because of their height, its delusional to think that same primary filter disappears at the bar or in person
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:45 PM
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If she already agreed to a 1on1 date it doesnt matter. Talking about where you meet initially
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:38 PM
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A lot is two words. You're a bartender, I'm sure you can look around and see what other jobs are in nightlife The fact youre embarrassed to even mention your job title tells me whatever you do in nightlife, is probably not relevant to convo of attraction/dating. Great. I've seen plenty of solo dudes fail. 🤷 There we go, canceling each other out again. Never said they didn't fail. Just that they do better than the big groups of bros on average. reading comprehension clearly isnt your strong suit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:40 PM
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Great point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:35 PM
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Human nature didn't suddenly change and dating apps didn't find a way to transfer way you hold yourself and way you speak People's attitudes, behaviors and standards towards dating absolutely change depending on culture and society. Dating is a marketplace and marketplaces change dramatically. And real life isn't limited by bars and clubs. And even under those conditions those 10-30 seconds in real life allow you to make far more impression than any dating profile ever will. No one said it was. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:34 PM
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Because I've done a lot, there's more to nightlife than being being behind a bar So what do you do that is "alot" exactly It's the same 6 months ago as it was 20 years ago. We are talking in the context of dating/attraction dynamics.. Uber and smartphones weren't even existence 20 years ago. Let alone social media and dating apps. Yes behaviors and attitudes have changed quite a bit. I can assure you with 100% certainty that a guy alone in a bar will rarely have success Id say 1 other guy is bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:26 PM
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As someone who worked in nightlife for a decade, Worked in nightlife is extremely vaugue description, what did you do and when... 20 years ago? The marketplace is drastically different than it was even 5 years ago as are people's attitudes and behaviors. Im a bartender in the current market A picture isn't a great judge of anything A picture is absolutely a pretty good judge of baseline attraction. Most women can look at a picture of Chris Hemsworth and tell hes attractive or Danny de Vito and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:45 PM
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The standards don't change...most men just look better in person and women are more attracted to a man in motion than a lifeless photograph Lol this absolutely not accurate. Some people have awkward mannerisms and look better in photo. Some look better in person. It is absolutely not the majority. Someone everyone including the bartender knows is a good time and pleasant. Makes it easier to talk to folks for more than that 30 seconds. Yeah thats a legit strategy a lot of guys use to warm up. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:33 PM
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Is this from the past few years or are you talking about pre covid? Ive found the dynamics changed quite a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:30 PM
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The endless valdiation exists in nightlife as much as bars. They crave validation from 99% of guys but will choose to pursue/engage with a very very small percentage of that whether in person or online. Also many women just moved over to Instagram for dating the past few years
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:27 PM
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Definitely more rare based on what ive seen and heard. How are you defining success?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:23 PM
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If y9lou bothered reading youd see i dont really care about that. I grt enough action on the apps i was just trying to switch it up. The funny thing is ive noticed a large majority of the guys going out shooting their shot in person are the same guys who struggle or don't use online much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:46 PM
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That wasnt the conclusion if you actually read the op
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:13 AM
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Yes obviously consent isnt to be bypassed. Im talking about taking the lead on every day decision making, not crossing certain boundaries as that is obviously unacceptable. So many women dont want to tell a guu when and where to the lead, they expect men to read their minds and then complain about it later on tok tok
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:12 AM
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Yes we are talking about the majority. Who would have thought nuance existed and that this obviously doesnt apply to 100% of a given demographic. Amazing insight you provided!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:08 AM
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I have a 1 in 3 swipe rates online and have universal appeal lol. Literally 1 in 3 girls who look at my profile swipe rate, im top .01% looks. Height is fine at 5'10, nothing crazy. Yes ive traveled solo too it's easy mode in most other countries finding solid wings and even gaming. Were talking about the usa here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:54 PM
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Yep. I have literally 1000s of matches and likes on bumble/hinge and can get dates lined up whenever but in person at bars is like difficult mode. Ever guy who does well ive ever seen is also good looking and 100% without a doubt figured out how to make a halfway decent profile and crush it online
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:03 PM
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Its women looking for friends with other women. No. men dont post in those obviously. Why are so amazed or taken back by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:16 AM
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What are you talking about? Being a wingman IS a "mutual shared interest" lady.. and absolutely an activity that bonds men if dome correctly. Picking up gitls together is actually a much a less superficial bonding activity than "run club" or chess club. Youre trying desperately to put a spin on this by using the word "transactional" which i could apply to any of your friendship. That last part is false. I have multiple friends groups back where i lived previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:08 AM
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Those post pop up on my feed. Its always women looking for friends/roomates and dozens of replies every time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:01 AM
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Such a bizarre assumption to make that men ditch other men the second they find a woman. Women are much more likely to do that than men. No one ever said meeting women was the sole purpose of male friendships in nightlife world. Thats a second incorrect and bizarre conclusion you jumped to your last paragraph, thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. Yeah plenty of dudes are for sure liabilities nonones denying that. But plenty of "abusive " "narcissistic " etc etc men and women have lots…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:35 AM
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Most of these guys are weird incels and dont have the right mindset/strength required for the nightlife scene
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:32 AM
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Nice man, seems like a good niche. Ive been out there many times, gaslamp area is definitely competitve. Dont know about the other areas tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:06 AM
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Nice. What city did you have the most sucfess in? Ive been able to do eaiser when I was in Dallas living in downtown vs los angles living 30 min away from bar streets. Also depends hiw close you live as some girls wont leave downtown/bar area in many cities ive found. Whats been your experience with logitics?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:39 AM
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Well yea anyone can approach women. The question is getting a consistent/good result when out at bars/nightlofe venues. Being lower inhibition is def a plus. How many girls have you met at the bar and brought back your place that same night? I can get meet girls and get good results pretty much 5x a week using hinge/bumble/apps but in person same night close rate is much lower
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:25 AM
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Should be easy if its where you grew up. Moving to a brand new state/location is trickier
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:03 AM
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All true but that was an interesting tangent to go on considering no one said what a good man wingman is or isnt. But yeah I agree with the writeup
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:53 AM
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Yea true unless you already have a cool group then you can combine groups maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:46 AM
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I dont even care about meeting girls lol although its more fun on person than online. Im just saying as a loner if a much bigger than challenge than on the apps which are easy mode for me. I literally have 1000s matches on hinge and tinder than I could make use of in about 4 lifetimes lol. I have dates every weekend and a couple casual fwbs but finding a cool friend group of like minded dudes who arent jealous is tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:42 AM
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Yep I addressed this in the OP Theres virtually no guys in lets say a frisbee club, run club, board game club, etc to meet girls together on a night out. Theres really not a lot of masculine spaces for men who are actually interested in night life scene to connect aside from nightlife itself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:32 AM
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Lol yep just debunked op entire novel in 1 sentence. If youre a hot older guy there will always be an influx of hot 20yo girls for you. Im late 30s and have dates more 20yos this yr than ever before. Luckily im good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:50 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:04 PM
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Literally no one does anything you just mentioned above you just made that up to try and validate your point. Nice try tho By your logic, you must be struggling with dating/relationship issues too since you post on this forum. See i can assumptions about you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:02 PM
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Very few claim that. I have proof of success and being a top .01% user (yes .01% i am a "top pick" on literally every app). Happy to share proof if you want to dm. I love when people try to call me out this. Also your post is extremely judgemental. Me being an advocate for homeless and poor people with no medical insurence doesnt mean im struggling/homeless and poor with no insurence. You do realize people can take an interest in topics that dont necesarily affect them directly, right? It blows …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:52 PM
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Maybe go for uglier men on your level and you wont have that 'stringing along'' problem id imagine. The safety issue makes ZERO sense and is totallyirrational and uncalled for. A guy you met at a bar or your running club poses the exact same level of risk. This idea that people who use dating apps are these vampires who don't go out in the real world is insane. People youd met on apps are the same people youd meet in every day life. Youre just perpetuating false narratives and unjust fear monger…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:49 PM
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So someone telling you "youre pretty" is sexual harassment? You need list out some specifc examples if you want to refer to thar as "form of harm". Becuase without actual examples no one has any idea wtf youre talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:05 AM
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Exactly you have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:36 AM
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How are they hurting you if yoh blocked and repory someone youve nevee met? You also just stereotyped men and made a generalization about all men in that last paragraph. No one is saying all men are angels... just like not all women are angles that goes without saying. But living fear and not using dating apps beucase someone could offend or disrespect you is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:36 AM
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Yeah thats delusional and a big part of the problem... You assuming 2000 men only want hook ups. When irl its probably less than 5% who want that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:32 AM
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So then block and report the small minority of people who send inappropriate messages? Why would you prevent yourself from using an app where you can meet plenty of great people? The issue is alot of modern women have such a negative and misandrist mindset towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:01 AM
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Becuase a good majority of women are followers like sheep and many dont want to risk the reputation damage by advertising themselves on app becuase they think it hurts their social cred? Theres less stigma now though and plenty of women use dating apps. Also plenty of women only need to rely on Instagram. A better question is why women so judgmental? You really think that youd be unable to find chemistry, attraction and a good relationship with 100s of the 3000 likes/potential options most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:56 AM
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Because yall like to make preconceived judgments about guys who use dating apps for some reason. A better question is why women so judgmental? You really think that youd be unable to find chemistry, attraction and a good relationship with the 3000 likes most women have queued up within the first couple weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:52 AM
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Most guys who cant do it online cant get anything in person. I literally have 5000+ likes between all the apps. 100s of girls sending roses/super likes on hinge and in person is far more difficult. Most women in person arent single, arent my type, and having a curated list of lots of people who already like you is objectively far more efficient path to dating. How could you possibly think that relying on your chess club or run club or relatively small network of friends would be more efficient o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:43 AM
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Yeah man whats been irritating me about online dating lately is everyone seems to be okay with continuing this narrative that both sides have it equally bad. Like nah. If im a guy and started complaining I had 3000 likes nut couldnt find anyone uo to standards id get shit on immediately lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:53 AM
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even the bitter the feminist on the subs stayed quiet for this one lol. I think this is so many woman have so much hatred towards the red pill/black pill so much.. its causing men to observe behavior and patterns rather than what they hear
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:49 AM
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Done!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:41 AM
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So how do you explain the fact an overwhelming majority of men get zero attention om dating apps while all women at least get something
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:56 PM
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I dont even think YOU understand ehat youre writing lol. Yeah take care lady, all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:52 PM
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Wtf are you on lady. Youre not leading a revolution. Youre just derailing with irrelevant points
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:47 PM
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All 3 of those things can be true at once. When we delve deeper into the discussion about "men liking attractive women' we arrive to the conclusions below. And yes those last 2 statements below I believe to be true for the overwhelming majority
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:13 PM
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Talking about the culture behind the word is a seperate discussion. Again, regardless of whatever other implications you think there are looksmaxing = improving your looks. I dont need to pussyfoot around using a term
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:11 PM
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Exsctly so why are you wasting so time fixating on the minority. You brought it up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:48 PM
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No im saying those men are the extreme minority and obviously dumb if they arent trolling. Id also venture to say there's an equal amount (or probably more) of men-hating aka misandrist women on these subs. theres also plenty of vapid evil non-child bearing women who live out selfish lives and never reproduce. Plent of equally bad men too. That last statement equates biological function (ability to bear children) with virtuoso with is obviously ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:26 PM
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Ive heard plenty of women (and even some feminist men) complain that men prioritizing fit girls with pretty faces is "bad". For most high quality guys, beauty (like actual beauty, not average girls) is the foundation. Many men simply cant develop deep feelings for a woman without that strong sense of physical attraction so how can you tell them "it matters too much them"? Im genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:18 PM
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Thsts a charecuture of looksmaxing. Looks maxing = maxing out your looks. Gym, diet, skin, maybe some minor corrective surgeries. Women or men who fixate on lip injections, unnecessary jaw surgeries, hitting their face with hammers, or any other extreme measure are in the minority. I guarantee most people arent doing that. Reagrdless youve taken issue with the word rather than addressed the underlying point. Were not talking about looksmaxing culture, that was never a point in the discussion and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:05 PM
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No althought I dont check it much outside of the posts I make. Most the posts ive read from men on here are pretty rational and well thought out, not like what youre describing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:59 PM
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I agree. the problem is many guys are desperate and quick to settle for a relationship with anyone they can get their hands on if it means sex and some semblence of loyalty. The other big problem is an equal amount of women entertain this type of behavior in relationships and actually get off on it due to emotional issues, insecurity or whatever other weird reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:53 PM
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That emotion doesnt have to be rooted in logic, reason, or deep introspection. We just feel less. 1000 whispers of our ancestors dictate many of our feelings as humans. The same way a woman feels if she finds out that a short, ugly, fat dude who she isnt attracted to wants to date her. Im guessing she feels nothing. That is the exact same feeling men have for women who aren't attractive. The big difference a very large percent of men are desperate enough to entertain those options because easy s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:46 PM
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Ive never seen that. Sounds like you spend too.much time on reddit with incels
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:41 PM
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This is your deluded misandrist perception. In reality men don't think that. If a guy goes to a female doctor he doesnt just assume hes more competent/rational than her simply becuase hes a man. Literally no one does that. Feminism has really warped your brain
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:39 PM
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Youre wrong. First off, that was a different poster who mentioned feminist doctrine. Regardless, those two points in the first paragraph are essentially the same, you just changed the wording to make it seem like the goal post was shifted. Nice try. Last paragraph. No one ever said for men to fixate on beauty to the exclusion of ever else. Thats very different from making sure that beauty is also included in the equation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:36 PM
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Ok so what would you like to call it? Its so petty and pedantic to fixate on the word being used. Who cares if that term was popularized online, people know what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:26 PM
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How does a man not wanting to spend time/ resources on a woman he is not attracted to equate to "weak" integrity or charecter? Please explain the logic. Do women believe that they are entitled to a mans attention and affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:23 PM
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I think most women easily pick the 7/10 thr same way you would. What proof do they habe they chose money over physical attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:33 AM
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Yeah but be honest.. would you really be fulfilled and loyal to a bald fat unattractive dude just becuase he is millionaire.. Or would you rather have a guy who makes a modest income 80k, lives on a budget but is attractive I think we all know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:36 AM
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Actually many of us do. Im well into 6 figures and have used sugar sites too. Thats where you find many hot college aged girls who like age gaps. Only simps pay for "upkeep". Dates a guy should pay for, no one disagreeing with that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:32 AM
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Lol actually the area i succeed most in life is financially. Trying to pretend like money is a substitute for looks is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:30 AM
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I agree with everything up till thst last paragraph. Ill also add.. obviously guys need to find girls who are physically beautiful AND love them. Its so obvious you cant sacrifice that second part that I shouldnt even have to mention it. Many guys will end up single until they find both (beauty and loyalty) which in turn means many women will end up single/used until they get there porker butts in the gym. Anyhow, alot of these young guys who looksmaxx do it to impress hot young girls who really…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:20 AM
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100% agree. She talking about like a small minority maybe 20% of men with absolutely zero standards and trying to paint it as the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:12 AM
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If youre extremely attracted to your girl, youll feel more mentally stable If youre extremely attracted to your girl, youll be more kind. If youre extremely attracted to your girl, youll absolutely be more reliable. If youre extremely attracted to your girl, youll feel more ambitious If youre extremely attracted to your girl, youll feel more willing to share loads. The bigger is her attraction to you. Her being very hot makes you a better partner but doesnt necessarily make her a better partner …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:09 AM
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Not sure why you think anyone would not be in agreement with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:03 AM
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Yes thats the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:01 AM
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All the branches of feminism you listed would agree that "men are place too much value on beauty". Or diagree with that statement? Many people have already claimed in this thread men should priortize other things and not fixate on beauty. What are you talking about, plenty of people disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:59 AM
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A large percent of women dont select their partners rationally either. Goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:53 AM
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Yes. I meant the deeper emotion of men prioritizing looks is unfathomable for many women becuase men will still engage for months and even years when they arent fully into it. many women cant comprehend how a girl can be a perfect girlfriend/wife in every way but if she gains 50lbs, a man will suddenly lose all desire/motivation/romantic interest to be with her despite being still emotionally connected. Some women who are heavily visual can relate but i think its a minority. Conversely, many men…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:46 AM
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Most people have an internet connection and watch YouTube videos. It doesnt matter either way, the point is they are desperately trying to improve their looks like nevr before
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:37 AM
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No. I meant habe to schedule 3-4 weeks in advance cus everyone's hair maxxing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:35 AM
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*a man feels motivated to actually be a good partner when he is highly physically attracted to his wife aka shes hot. Hopefully thats a little bit easier for you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:47 AM
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It literally determines how much motivation goes into the relationship. This is assuming the halfway decent as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:43 PM
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Yes many of the incels are now lookmaxxing.. why's thsts so tough to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:59 PM
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When did anyone say that was the only concern
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:58 PM
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Probably because youre low quality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:14 AM
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Have you considered that you projecting so much bitterness and hatred towards men is extremely unattractive and probably a big part of your failed success?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:36 AM
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Perhaps that just happens to you. Have you considered your expeiences with men probably aren't the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:15 AM
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Most dudes are not "fluid" and into men. Sorry to burst your weird homoerotic bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:14 AM
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You expecting a dude to give you his credit card or something? Lol that will never happen. Its far more likely that a mid 5/10 looking guy locks down a hottie than it is that you lock down a rich guy. And even then, youre not fooling anyone we all know you wouldn't be happy with a rich dude youre not attracted to. Your attempt to "get back" at men for being shallow about looks by dating someone youre not attracted to is so petty/ridiculous (and funny). Cut your nose to spite your face is never a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:11 AM
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Outside of demented incels on reddit who is complaining? Literally no one. Msot men (especially younger generations) are looksmaxxing.. taking action so they don't get stuck with mid women. I have to schedule my haircuts 3-4 days in advanced cus ever f**** guy got the memo and is hair maxxing and regular cuts now. I go to bars and everyone's jacked with shoe lifts. The average joe is drastically improving themselves, not complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:09 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:44 AM
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Nobody wants attention from you lady. Theres plenty of normal women out there who arent jaded and hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:43 AM
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I literslly said in the post if you read an entire generation of younger men are taking action by looksmaxxing so they don't get stuck in the cycle of dating mid women. So no, your painting a straw man. In reality most men arent complaining they are actively looksmaxxing id argue.. especially younger dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:34 AM
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Why is your friends coworkers roommate, etc any safer or better match than someone you could meet on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:31 AM
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Friend group = social circle, no? Also what are some examples of the coed social activities you partake in
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:19 AM
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Probably becuase they want ro save that for the date? Getting to know someone for a bit isnt always an option for someone you may want to meet. Only pursuing people in mutual friend groups is a passive and ineffective strategy for 90% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:21 PM
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Do most guys not do that when they are interested in a girl though? Im having trouble understanding how you as a woman (if put in a man's body) and forced to pickup women, would have an advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:58 PM
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The chances of you having 'instant chemistry" with a stranger off the street is far lower than with a match
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:23 PM
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So whats an example of "how women like to be flirted with"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:21 PM
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Sure but whats an example of a "big advantage" youd have a woman knowing their psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:29 AM
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Ok. Where would you approach and what would this strategy be that men are missing the mark on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:48 AM
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So how would you approach a girl in the street or grocery store. Please break this the psychology that men are missing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:18 AM
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Most average guys can talk to 50 girls in one night and none will actually be that interested. Thats just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:10 AM
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Wtf women also prefer tall. Doesn't mean you cant get laid if youre short or Indian. Just a little less attention initially
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:08 AM
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You could be good looking of any race. Attractiveness is based on geometry and facial proportions, not race.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 10:20 PM
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That second part is a problem. You need to get comfortable enough where you can even hit on a pretty girl and successfully get attraction when youre out and about or else you'll be missing out on a lot of opportunity. To get that kind of reference experience and success you need to go out to nightlife venues where theres high volume of girls. Plenty are single down to meet, i meet lots of girls like this. They use the "just here for friendsz" excuse when they dont like you. Youll get rejected al…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:37 PM
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I got a quesiton for you. Have you ever dated or hooked up with a girl from a party or a club/bar? Are you even able to flirt and banter with women when you go out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:21 PM
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So which social groups in you in pal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:16 PM
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Those 4 matches are already interested. Its extremely low iq to not realize the 4 people you talk to on a night out will have the same interest level
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:14 PM
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Disagree. Everything he said is actually spot on and applies to the avergae guy. Its more of a looks threshold issue than a race issue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:10 PM
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Hmm well I think simping has a very specific connotation in that in involves unrequited admiration, support, etc. Im not even sure the staunch red killers would say putting your wife on a pedestal would be simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:31 AM
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Ah okay
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:27 AM
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I think that criteria is all reasonable and bare minimum for anyone. Are you able to give a specifc example of emotional battles/stress? Ive dated girls who are always stressed/going through something negative and its tough to deal with so its highly context dependant. For instance I had an ex who lost her mother and aunt same time in a tragic way and im not sure I was able to console her the way she wanted. Its not becuase im not empathetic, men generally just have a lower degree of empathy in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:26 AM
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Plenty of adults claim looks arent a prerequisite. Anyhow. Not sure why you come in, type out your opinion and then attack me for being miserable. Very bizarre and passive aggressive insult. Sounds like youre projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:12 AM
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I do agree there is often a correlation with grooming/care/fitness etc. Its a big reason i dont find overweight women attractive. Its a personality issue as much as a physical desire issue and you can tell from reading their profiles they are bizarre and often socially uncalibrated. Im curious, whats your physical criteria for with regard to determining if they are "on your looks level"? Is it height, physique, some specifcs about their face? Also how did you discover they were "emotionaly and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:08 AM
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Right.. so how would you know if they tick all these boxes without giving them a chance and matching them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:59 AM
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Maybe tell that to all the women preaching about how looks dont matter that much to them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:27 AM
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Well since your so focused on long term compatibility maybe just over look them for the sake of the long term and problem solved right. Or are you saying you lack the ability to make good long term decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:19 AM
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Wait arent women always saying how "men's looks arent that important"? Lol if thats true, maybe you should prioritize other things in their profiles besides looks? Which is it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:38 AM
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And pls explain how you'd prevent top tier users/chads from swiping on girls who are way below their league when they get bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:34 AM
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Remove ancestry, skin complexion etc etc. Physical attractiveness already accounts for all that. You can be tall, short, black, white, southern, western, etc if youre physically attractive youre not at a disadvantage
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:52 AM
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My biggest issue is some things carry far more weight than others so that needs to be accounted for. Interesting other than that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:19 AM
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My broad shoulders, smile and face do the heavy lifting. My main pic is just a selfie. Another is just me sitting at table with food. There isnt some secret formula other than the obvious. If nick Bateman, Jacob elordi or any famous "hot celeb" that you can think of, was unknown and made a profile they'd do just fine with any pics. Again pretty obvious. I never said they deternine attraction. They can determine who they DONT want to meet and who may have potential. The problem is how trigger hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:58 PM
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Alot of people on this sub say and irl say it. The blame the concept of old not the companies. Also Facebook dating js entirely free with no paid upgrades available. First of its kind, why do you think women are still using hinge instead of switching over?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:26 PM
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Yeah I have like 500+ roses on hinge from girls and probably 2000 regular likes so I know personally what performs well. Youre overcomplicating it. You just need to be better looking than the other users, not paint a whole story. Lets assume every man put in the effort required to maximize their potential, even then having a good profile doesn't solve the issue of there not being enough female users. Its a zero sum game. I also disagree with the idea women cant determine attraction from pics/vis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:23 PM
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A better question would be if you wait for the people in front of you on the plane to exit before standing up as thats a better testament of virtue(patience, respectability, etc). Even then people still lie and believe their lies about themselves. There could be some useful ones but the questionnaire idea is just too bias for people to answer on their own. With religion and politics aside, Most modern day people hold very similar values. Even then all these questions pale in comparison to human …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:40 PM
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I have model tier women paying to send me roses aka super likes lol But yeah 99% of men dont meet up to the standards women have these days
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:13 PM
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Divorce rates? Lol bro you cant be serious with that logic. I dont even think thats a published statistic regardless but id give you the benefit of the doubt for the sake of the discussion. Do you understand how many other variables there are in that equation that you glossed over. Theres no way you could use "divorce rates" from thar era as an argument in good faith.. cmon now Also I agree with that last point. Maybe it needs to be gov funded or something idk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:07 PM
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Read my edit. Also whats the solution since its so easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:05 PM
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I dont disagree with any of that and think that can be true along with the op. I am one of those "hot guys' have like 1000 roses on hinge, girls literally paying money just to like my profile and shoot their shot. Its all true, im a paid user becuase i benefit so heavily and I get rewarded with with free advertising/massive elo increase from every app not for paying, but for being hot. The paying feature just superchagres things when youre already doing well. What is the solution in your opinion…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:59 PM
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Those 100 questions were total bs, didnt tell you anything about compatibility, and should be taken with a grain of salt. One of the questions was "do you clap when a plane lands" lol give me a break. The majorities of questions were equally ridiculous and dont say jack squat about true compatibility. The apps should absolutely not use a bunch of dumb questions as a barometer for compatibility thats a horrible idea. The solution is somehow to deincentive the app from making profit or having paid…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:56 PM
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What? Being a mother =/= being jobless housewife. You di realize millions of women have jobs and raise kids without being wealthy right. I know quite a few
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:34 AM
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No. Why miserable having a husband and family. You think all women with kids are forced to financially reliant on their husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:13 AM
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Why are assuming youd be miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:07 AM
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Thats probably the root cause in a small minority of those cases. You acting like all women have the exact same backstory is black and white thinking and just sounds a bit unintelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 12:43 AM
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Thats like .000001% of the users.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:11 PM
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Those guys get deprioritized in the algo quick these days. The apps know whatsup. If you have a profile running for 2-3 weeks with minimal engagement on your part it should weed out many of the bad actors
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:51 PM
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Please post link. Everything ive read shows 66/33
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:27 PM
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You can meet cool guys on there at your fingertips. What more do you want exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 08:21 PM
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That wont ever happen and isn't the solution. Facebook dating isnt pay for play and the same dynamics still apply. The solution is to run marketing campaigns to get more women on the apps to balance out the ratios
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:30 PM
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First off the online dating market is the biggest dating market currently and about half of couples are meeting online. That number will rise so this calls for a discussion. Second, i have like 100s of superlikes/roses on hinge. I get more attention on the apps than I know what to do with. Im already seeing 2 girls so I dont really care. How about engage with the post instead of making assumptions about my personal life. The idea that any one who has an interest in discussing the dating market m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:24 PM
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Nah you dont understand harmony and aesthetics. 1-2 millimeters can make someone unrecognizable. Dont be ignorant read about it if you dont believe
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:20 AM
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Never. fortunate enough to be considered "classically attractive " by most standards. Coincidentally, faceapp doesnt make any noticeable adjustments to my face
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:11 AM
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Strong reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:05 AM
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Im saying compatibility is secondary to polarity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:28 AM
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Thats a very blackpilled take. Most these incels (or borderline incels) can easily get a decent guy by switching locations. So yes, they need to develop abundance mentality but that will require some effort aka moving somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:37 AM
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Men are looked down upon when dating objectively unattractive women. The thought of it is uninspiring and depressing, id rather be alone and single but luckily im good looking enough to attract conventially attractive chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:51 AM
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This is by far the most ignorant comment ive read in a while. You seem like the type to inject politics into everything and the type of person no one cares to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:22 AM
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Check my edit. Men post about getting cheated on and then "redpilled" after all the fukin time online. Thats embarrassing Its never about "narcissism".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:12 PM
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Thats a big leap. They absence of evidence is a much weaker argument. It could be your theory.. or that men just fall prey far les to "narcissistic" women. Men post about getting cheated on all the time on TikTok/SM which is embarrassing and it never has to do with "narcissism"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:08 PM
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Cah you point to any public examples of men complaining about getting taken advantage of by a "narcissist" ex girlfriend. I can point to 10000s of examples of women complaining about it and not a single one of man complaining about such things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:03 PM
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Not what I said at all. I said specifically in regards to distinguishing between narcissism and confidence which Is what this entire thread is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:44 PM
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Have you ever considered that these men who you think are "maliciously lovebombing" you, actually DID genuinely like you when they said that but then lost interest for reasons that you arent aware of.. Its seems a bit delusional and narcissistic to assume its either "malicious tactic" or "stupidity" and not even consider they just lost interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:41 PM
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I forgot to add in the title. Men in general have a much easier time distinguishing between the two because we arent clouded by our emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:33 PM
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Lol smh you missed the whole point. Thats a huge point of attraction for women in dating whereas with men its not. Thats the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:25 PM
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No. Many use instagram as a barometer for someones 'social status' and popularity which is flawed for many reasons. The methodology used to determine "social skills" is largely subjective and based on ""vibes", not actual criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:19 AM
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You’re arguing intent, I’m arguing perception. I never said every guy doing these gestures is fake or seeking approval. You put words in my mouth I never said. I’m saying society overvalues these easy, symbolic gestures as proof of masculinity and character when they really prove very little. You opening doors or offering your coat tells me nothing about true masculine charecter aka how you handle pressure, loyalty, responsibility, or adversity, etc. You also failed to elaborate on how these per…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:59 AM
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That comparison actually proves my point. Wearing a suit to a business meeting has a functional purpose, professionalism, signaling effort, fitting the environment, etc. Same with grooming standards in certain contexts. Dress code attire for events and grooming are gender neutral and functional expectations. But opening a car door for a woman specifically isn’t functionally necessary in modern society, it’s symbolic. I’m not saying social norms don’t exist. I’m saying people confuse compliance w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:42 AM
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Im sure youre a nice guy but not for the reasons you listed. Everything you listed is textbook performance and these gestures are certainly "nice" however they say nothing about masculine charecter. You'd have to give deeper examples than holding open doors, giving up your coat for women, or seat for the elderly. IMO, You'd have to provide some examples about how you displayed masculinity by staying emotionally grounded in a difficult time, being there for your family, wife, loved one or various…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:24 AM
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Are you overweight or super ugly or something? Whats stopping you from being successful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:37 AM
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The idea all the men or women left have either been passed up or have kids is ridiculous. You can find a quality relationship at ANY age as long as your smv is high Theres millions of high quality single women in their mid 20s and early 30s who date successful older guys. Many men have kids at that age too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:32 AM
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With the millions of feminist who are "opting out" what do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:52 AM
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What bad habits exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:21 PM
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Absolutely not true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:20 PM
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What? What i listed is for men. You do realize men and women have different skill sets right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:04 PM
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"Best women" according to which metrics? Please elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 10:00 PM
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"Best women" according to which metrics? Please elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:49 PM
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By having reference experience from dating around
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:47 PM
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They dont know what "the one" is yet. So yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:23 PM
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I could make the same argument for those women who "opting to stay single and sleep around". The difference is men don't have a bioligical clock. we can easily settle down mid 30s with a family, the same cant be said for women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:22 PM
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Disagree entirely. Most men will habe better and more stable LTR options in the mid-late 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:17 PM
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Who said anything about "stating that you love them"? Literally no one said that. Simply expressing interest after a date or two that you want to see them again or even try dating or being exclusive can be interpreted as over eagernessby many
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:12 AM
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Absolutely although the question is whether women collectively should continue rewarding that poor behavior, not if men should change
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:40 AM
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Lol youre agreeing me with and dont even realize it. You glossed over the part about so many young women continuously rewarding that poor behavior with sex. The litmus test isnt whether that behavior leads to stable happy healthy LTR's, its whether it leads to sex. young men's behavior is a direct byproduct of the fact that behavior is rewarded with sex, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:36 AM
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I bet youre the type of women who thinks having a mullet and tattoos gives a man an "edge"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:12 AM
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Partially true. I think decades back women were more likely to give that safe and preditable guy a long term shot which allowed attraction to build over time. Given the speed and abundance of optionality, that same relationship is much less likely to flourish today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:11 AM
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You made a strawman and took it to the extreme. being direct, open to long term and honest about whatever struggles a man has is what I mean by emotionally open. No one said anything about "crying" or talking like a girl about feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:09 AM
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I agree with that entirely although i think its a large percent of women so inevitably alot of men wont have the luxury of finding a good one because there arent enough to go around. The limited supply of women who dont reward or arent attracted to "toxicity" is the real issue. Alot of men simply dont have the abundance as other men have to be that picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:05 AM
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Everyone likes honest people of course. That should not be included with the others. Alot of women lose interest if a guy becomes emotionally open, vulnerable, etc too early.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:58 PM
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Or jail for false accusations... or assault by someone crazy.. list goes on Im so confused why you think women are victims in every situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:10 PM
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Really? I feel like you can ABSOLUTELY get a decent vibe/read on someone based on pictures, videos, etc of said person. Obviously you cant know every detail about someone online or even in person for that matter but you can get an idea. Id love to know what "in person vibe" after 5 minutes of chatting with a random person o that wouldn't be apparent from pictures or videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:09 PM
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So youre dating multiple people? Are these people youre dating not on instagram? I get tons of girls sliding into my dms on there. You also realize that unless youre looking for a pen pal, you end up meeting whoever youre talking in person aka "the real world" shortly after texting/matching.. This idea that dating apps are so much different and remove optionality is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:34 PM
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🤦‍♂️ Im talking about thousands of posts having an effect on psychology. More than enough to recognize statistically significant trends/patterns. The other lady was talking about personal examples
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:58 AM
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The manosphere and this sub? Lol thats a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of women whining on TikTok, Instagram, and various other subreddits about their dating woes. Women vastly outnumber men in the whining/complaining about the opposite gender category. The fact you think its even comparable is a bit laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:47 AM
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I literally made 1 reference to myself in the entire posts. Its not the basis in any way at all... what are you even talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:42 AM
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I didnt forget, I mentioned it. I just didnt elaborate. A decline in societal pressure no doubt contributes to mens selectivity though its more of byproduct of the times vs a direct factor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:40 AM
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right it takes time to get to that stage, no? After how many dates do you expect a guy to agree to be exclusive with you is a better question
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:08 AM
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I just edited my last post. Ill say it again in case it was missed. Youre trying to conflate short and long term commitment for the sake of making your point and being correct. I never said "women want long term commitment after a few dates", i said they are wanting to date. You weaseled this part about long term commitment into your argument. All relationships evolve... as in they start as short term commitment and then progress to long term/more serious form of commitment over time. You know a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:40 AM
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Youre moving the goalpost. Most people know afrer a few dates if they be interested in dating someone. Youre trying to conflate short term and long term commitment for the sake of making your point and being correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:33 AM
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No I think that becuase ive met lots of women who want my commitment, after a few dates. You dont have to believe it, but its true. I didnt bother brining up all these little details becuase it is irrelevant to the macro dating market discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:27 AM
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Dm me and ill take a look and see if I can help
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:21 AM
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Lol. Alright according to ny updated reaearch it might actually be closer to 1%, I will give you that! Still waiting to hear about how anything Ive stated wouldn't apply to lower tier users
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:19 AM
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Can you share this "research'" My research puts me closer to 10%, not <1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:06 AM
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You dont realize that your cherry picked subs online and personal experiences dont mean anything. I know tons of married couples and dont know a single one where the guy had to be "pushed" to propose but I wouldn't even bother mentioning this becuase its obvious to any intelligent person that anecdotal stories are irrelevant in this case It just sounds like your projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:04 AM
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Buddy, you inferred that the subset of men (~10%) that actually have an abundance of options " must be imaginary". Regardless of if it was directed at me, that statement is delusional and just shows youre in denial about how many men are crushing it the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:55 AM
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10% isnt that extreme Also when did I give advice? Im just telling you how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:48 AM
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Thats not true even in the slightest. Most people arent fearful driving to work even though its a relatively high risk activity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:48 AM
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Right and check the repill subs for the masses of psychotic women who have BPD, self harm and other mental issues.. Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "selection bias'? Clearly you have experience with those type of men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:46 AM
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Um what? When did I ever say try to eliminate risk entirely? My position has been clear from the start, the goal is to mitigate risk as much as possible not eliminate it entirely. Theres still risk driving a car to get work, nobody is saying not to drive but to take precautions and protective measures
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:29 AM
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That’s a self-selected sample being treated like a universal truth. You’re looking at women who choose and adapt to being single, of course they report higher satisfaction, that’s selection bias. It’s not “women in general.” So this isn’t proof that “women thrive single,” it just shows some women would rather be single than in a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:22 AM
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In what world are the masses of men combining kids, property and pets but refusing marriage?? LOOOOL Maybe in your world, but not in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:17 AM
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See everyone, this is what the incel community likes to do. Pretend everyone is as miserable and unwanted as them. If anyone wants proof, just dm me and ill send a screenshot of my matches/likes. I always back up personal claims with proof
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:13 AM
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"gals who choose to be single in the very long run tend to report stronger social connection and feeling happier than any other demographic" What an extremely bias way to close out your argument. Do you think that only applies to women and not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:10 AM
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Um what? The ring being "too far" is quite literally a commitment isssue...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:05 AM
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You just proved my point. It’s not about basing decisions on other people’s experiences, it’s about learning from them. Thats called shared wisdom. Recognizing patterns, red flags, and common mistakes isn’t fear, it’s awareness. Ignoring that information would be naive. Risk assessment is a big part of dating successfully. If anything, the internet has accelerated that learning curve for the past 2 or so generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:04 AM
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Thats just incorrect. Emotionally unavailable = someone can have feelings but doesn’t open up, avoids vulnerability, or keeps distance (often by choice, habits, or past experiences). Lack of emotional depth = someone simply doesn’t have much range, awareness, or complexity in their emotions to begin with. REGADLESS (not here to argue semantics) being emotionally unavailable for someone is a byproduct of not wanting to form a strong commitment with them, no? Im genuinely curious, Have you ever co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:54 AM
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Your social circle is more bias and a much smaller representation of women in general than the rhetoric we see online. Were talking millions of women who posting and liking posts about how men dont wanna commit. Also "emotionally unavailable" is the same as "not wanting commitment"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:37 AM
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Regardless even the mildly desirable and not desirable men (1-5/10) are still exposed to marriage horror stories which makes them less likely to commit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:33 AM
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I have 1200+ women on bumble app queue alone wanting dates with me right now as we speak. Is thar imaginary too? That doesnt even count hinge or the girls i meet at bars, social circle, etc. Its always so funny to me the lower tier guys who arent wanted by any women live in this delusional fantasy where no guy is desired or has tons of options since they arent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:30 AM
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So then why do you only hear women complaining about "men not wanting to commit" and not the reverse..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:27 AM
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Comfort =/= attraction op.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:52 AM
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After a few? Lol you get 1 date build lots of sexual tension.. if not on to the hinge match. Every single woman has 10000s of them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:34 PM
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Studies have been linked
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:15 PM
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Thank you i removed those
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:14 PM
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Learn how to use google. Very simple.to copy and paste
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:56 PM
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Youre not understanding. Its nothing to do with efficiency Only some women can even reach reach penetrative orgasms and research shows they have a deeper connection. Thats the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:44 PM
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You’re asking for a “1–10 attachment score” like this is a video game stat, that’s not how psychological research works. These studies use validated measures like relationship satisfaction, sexual satisfaction, and reported feelings of love/attachment. And across multiple papers the pattern is consistent. it’s not “+3 attachment points,” it’s that the women experiencing intercourse-based orgasms are consistently the ones reporting stronger relational outcomes. If all orgasms were functionally id…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:36 PM
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Learn to read and write before commenting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:17 PM
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Theres several other studies as well that detail the orgasm gap
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:13 PM
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Exactly! It honestly checks out. I def believe only 1 in 3 or 4 women are actually in a fullfuling relationship. Its unfathomable how many mediocre relationships exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:58 PM
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Hey thanks for your comment. 2 questions as a woman who has actually experienced both. 1) are you more likely to reach orgams via penetration with a man you feel more attracted to or is mainly mechanical (size, shape, intensity of situation like roleplay, etc)? 2) when youre with a partner, how often are you experiences PIV orgams? Is it a frequent occurrence or happens occasionally? Also I do agree with your post about adding in creativity although i believe the conclusion is that women who exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:58 PM
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Very legit points tbh But regardless banter is what women respond to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:42 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:22 PM
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The manipulation is done unintentionally genius
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:06 PM
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You just have to know your audience lol the girls you want to invest your time in long term, you dont need to use dark triad traits to keep them attracted long term. They are def rare though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:00 AM
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Lol your toxicity is showing. Your trying to use "something I remind" you of as a way to manipulate the situation in your favor and put me in category that you can attack. textbook manipulative toxic behavior right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:57 AM
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Lol no. High value men are driven by looks only. And if yorue a hot girl these weird dark triad traits dont keep men interested, your looks do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:51 AM
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I've never once in my life heard a guy complain about his emotionally abuse toxic ex. And yes any man who would entertain that for even a day is extremely weak
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:42 AM
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I never made the argument it was. Im talking about anyone who CONTINUES to date toxic ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:39 AM
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You said it yourself, youre old. Im younger and pretty much everyone i know who is single uses dating apps. And yes literally anyone thay simply sets their profile to female immediately gets bombarded with 1000 likes within a few days. Thats actually fact
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:35 AM
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Huge turn off for you.. not most women, thats the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:33 AM
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Lol 4 paragraphs and not a single example. You proved ops point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:03 AM
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If you think one first date counts as “dating someone,” you don’t understand how dating works. Makes sense given your username tags.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:09 AM
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these women you found compelling enough to date them at all. Going on a 1st date with a stranger = /= dating.. what the hell are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:03 AM
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I do often, just got back home actually. Maybe you should take you own advice instead of using your old age as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:02 AM
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What are you talking about? You act like it's friday or Saturday night.. A good percent of women on this subreddit (who are very active in posts that fit their narrative) are absolutely home relaxing on Thursday night
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:51 AM
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I agree for the most part though I think most women who crave that push/pull approval will ultimately resent for you not playing their mind games
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:49 AM
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So are you arguing that the majority of women leave when the "toxic behavoir" is recognized? Id argue the majority still stay and thats the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:47 AM
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I hope you realize the irony of making a post positing that it's majority of women who respond to this based on your own personal experience. Instead of reflecting on the fact that somehow all of these women with "toxic exes" also have you in common, you assume you are the "exception" to this pattern and these women must just be more numerous than we assume. Occam would actually conclude that it's more likely you have a type, which is the same damaged women who find themselves in toxic relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:45 AM
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Are you trying to say most emotionally secure people are perpetrators? You have a bizarre way of making statements
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:43 AM
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This a pretty bizarre example and i dont think this points to toxic/dark triad in the way im describing... Can you give any other examples that stand out?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:41 AM
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Yet here you are 😂😂🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:36 AM
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if a person male or female allows emotional manipulation to continue or cant recognize it then yes absolutely Truly emotionally secure people dont allow themselves to fall victim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:47 AM
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Yeah there could definitely be some biases there with regards to the single dating pool, id give you that. As a blue piller, do you think men should actively avoid these women who entertained toxic ex and clearly are attracted to this behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:42 AM
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Women definitely more attracted to these dark triad tactics than men and I'm not even sure thats up for debate.. unless you can provide a counter. So yes, Its a "woman being attracted this" type of thing, not a "people" thing. I stand by that entirely I intended the post to be impartial, im simply recognizing and describing the trend. On a personal level i think its kind of sad how many people need to manipulate their way into attraction and equally sad how many get drawn into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:37 AM
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Exactly. This is the unfortunate reality and I think its important to have a discussion on how we arrived here as a society beucase I do think emotionally stunted women is a growing trend in the digital era. I think these maladapvitve personality traits are a byproducts of social media, porn, dating market issues for women. We tend to focus on the male side only
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:31 AM
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So you agree.. You just made a semantical argument. Drawn to emotional volatility = drawn to manipulate phycololy tactics. You tried to make a distinction and then exmplain why its attractive but its quite literally the same thing. Your second paragraph seems to also be in agreement that this emotionally secure women who baited into attraction with these tactics actually are in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:27 AM
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What are some specific examples of this "viciousness" you speak of? Calling her fat or what
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:41 PM
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Negging is completely different than banter. Women will tell you they want banter. Negging is cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:33 AM
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Yes ideally both, shared hobbies and sexual tension but the latter is far more important. You can absolutely have different hobbies and a few common overlapping interests (Netflix, etc) and raise a family and habe a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:30 AM
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Obviously bro. Im saying once your o Dating aka on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:23 AM
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Plenty of husband's and wives have totally different hobbies.. The sexual tension/banter is the glue that holds the relationship together not the hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:22 AM
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No. Commonality can build a friendship but not a sexual spark. There's a big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:59 AM
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Becuase a aexual connection goes deeper than "hey I loke your looks, you like mine, lets be best friends". There needs to be a degree of sexual tension, chemistry to keep the spark alive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:54 AM
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That comment needs to be a post right there. Completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:57 AM
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Thats like saying all tall men make good husbands becuase they can protect their wives.. Egregious overstatment Im simply telling you WHY something is attractive.. not that it actually translates to ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:32 AM
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They fail in dating meaning theyve already made it on a date genius. Girls dont agree to go on a date unless they find you attractive, wheres the false claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:30 AM
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Yeah but most guys are dorks who think banter means asking her about pineapple on pizza. Theh have no charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:29 AM
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Lol. This is assuming you made it on a date.. if you havent met the looks threshold then yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:24 AM
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Yes thats what im talking about but there is a right and wrong way to do. For instance alot of guys walk on eggshells think they are "bantering" by teasing a girl about liking pineapple on pizza. Real banter is about risking the other person getting offended and not liking you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:14 AM
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Looks, emotional intelligence, income
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:51 AM
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You need to work on your reading comprehension. I never said or implied casual sex is easy for most men Every woman in the world could want causal sex yet only 1% of men could still get it. Women are picky
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:43 AM
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Most guys want commitment, its a very small minority of men who truly want to live the "player' lifestyle. The issue mostly people have is their standards are too high for their own good
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:18 AM
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Damn amazing revelation 🤦‍♂️ nearly all women would rather share the same guy then get with one they dont find attractive. No one cares about balancing things out for the masses of men who want easy casual
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:17 AM
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Makes zero sense. You forget women go for the same very small percent of men. I luckily am in the category that has an abundance of casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:15 AM
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Plenty of women just want sex and something casual.. what are you even talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:18 PM
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Yesthere is a baseline levels of humor, charisma, etc that most can identity on the extremes. However the like between average and slightly above average is not well defined in the same way it is with looks. Its easy to rate people 1-10 on looks for most of us. It would be near impossible to rate someones charisma, humor, etc on a scale of 1-10, cus its all situational and based on 100s of mannerisms and things they say. its more like bad, average or good. The point im making is most guys fall i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:28 PM
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Being interesting lol 99.999% of people who think they are interesting are not 99.999% of people who think they are charismatic are not 99.999% of people who think they are charming are no Theee things are all extremely abstract and subjective. One girl A could think guy a is charismatic and funny and girl B could think the guy is the exact opposite. How are you evaluating this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:38 PM
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That doesn't refute anything. You xan meet irl or supercharge your meets with technology
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:50 PM
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Id still put social media aka IG in the same category as apps though when you factor dms. Id agree that many top tier women use IG for dating rather than trad dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:34 AM
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Yes several. Pickball, mma, crossfit, cold plunge/wellness community, run club, and paddle board. 80% of the halfway decent girls in these meet up groups are taken or in a relationship and I cant imagine trying to "get at' the very few single ones for a date. Id also bet money the other 20% are on dating apps themselves and they definitely wouldnt entertain a sub par (average looks, short, average charisma) just because he happened to be in their vicinity. I have 3 girls im seeing (thanks to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:41 AM
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How is that a reliable way to gauge someone's character?youre still only seeing one side of that person. They can be extremely promiscuous outside of church, work, or whatever other hobby group you initially met them from. I dont think meeting someone at church or hobby group provides any added benefit over meeting them online and then for a drink. Theres an equal chance either party has good or bad character imo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:30 AM
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I have more matched and dates from dating apps alone than I know what to do with..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:18 AM
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You go 3x a week? Are you telling me you get more matches/dates at the salvation army than you do off hinge or tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:15 AM
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Becuase you should go to those places to volunteer not try to date... and the chances of a mutal connection there is extraordinarily low from a numbers perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:13 AM
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this is such a cringe take. It would literally make your head spin if you knew how attention I get on dating apps from girls. Im in the "top pick" section of every app apparently. Ive spoken with women about this before, they love the validation simps give them irl but flattery doesnt equate to attraction. If you cant even figure out how to get attention from girls o online, youre not gonna rizz her up and start banging baddies from cold approach lol not happening
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:12 AM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:28 AM
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Yeah I dont believe it for a second
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:27 AM
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Who is you guys? Redpillers? I think its normal for people to evaluate dating prospects on the basis of looks, height, money.. are you denying thats a common critiera? Also the apps ultimately lead to human interaction regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:19 AM
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Never said it did. It depends on the quality of person you want to attract. If youre okay dating low quality unattractive women then sure. If you want a girl who has top quality options then yes you'll need to be in upper percentile of personality and/or looks most the time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:43 AM
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Its not social skills man. The kinds of personality traits women want find attractive in men, are largely genetic and you cant improve 3 standard deviations above whats considered average
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:36 AM
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🤦‍♂️ Again, youre assuming most guys have 1 of 2... you cant "make up" something you dont have The chances that someone has an extremely charismatic and amazing personality is about the same odds of them extremely good looking. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:34 AM
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So you need flirting as a requirment (alongside looks/attraction) to go out with someone.. What exactly is your idea of flirting? Can you give a few specifc examples of something this guy said to where you decided "okay now im ready to go out with him' I feel like that has a totally meaning for every girl
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:29 AM
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In real life, you can talk to her and at least showcase some degree of personality to make her feel at ease / interested, and you don't need to rely only on looks to get past the initial talking stage. you missed the whole point. the criteria for whats considered a "good personality" is just as stringent as the criteria for whats considered "good looks".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:19 AM
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The fact that you took anything in the OP as a personal attack against women, says alot about your charecter and victim mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:10 AM
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Oh boy. Im a guy who receives a relatively large amount of attention when out mainy from girls im not into and yeah it gets old real quick. Curious though, what type of guy would you want approaching you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:05 AM
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They are in relationships until you ask the guu they are dating.. I think the data on what constitutes a relationships tends to get overstated and theres social stigma with telling the world your single so women who participate in those studies tend to skew the data heavily as their relationships arent 1 on 1 monogamous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:03 AM
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Well my theory is alot of people arent in 1 sided open relationships without realizing especially as a woman's attraction increases, her male counterparts attention does as well whoch leads to more 1 way open relationships usually on the guys part (woman is closed so gives the impression of double sided monogamous when thats not the case)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:01 AM
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No because their preferences and standards differ. The average women being far more picky than the average guy changes the equation. This gives average women an exponentially higher number of opportunities and options which in turn leads to securing more options on average. Also you can have 10 guys dating 40 women which happens FAR more than the reverse. This also accounts for the disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:34 PM
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They are sharing guys. What happens is you have 10 guys in a "relationship" with 40 girls
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:24 PM
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No one said it did? Not sure how any of these points relate to the op. Dating apps tell you height, income, and other things than just a photo. Also, if youre truly good looking you'll do fine despite bad pics
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:23 PM
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Theres paper metrics (looks, income, height, frame) And personality metrics (charisma, humor, intelligence, etc) Yes being in the upper echelons of any is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:20 PM
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Thanks for the honesty! I know alot of women feel this way given the popularity of dating apps.. alot of the guys who think that are coping due to a lack of success on the apps. Im a guy who is very successful on apps so I dont feel the need to stop girls every 5 minutes when out to "shoot my shot'. ive met many amazing girls off the apps and yeah a good percent of them I probably wouldn't have approached in person, not being I'm shy or nervous but because I dont go around simply approaching eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:19 PM
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You'd have already broken ice, built rapport and a connection. Same principle with business and the workforce, you're more likely to be hired if you've met them before and networked, since they know you. This is assuming you have the tools to make a very strong first impression that instantly puts you above the competition. Very few guys have that. Walking into a law firm with your resume and a big smile doesnt get you the job im the internet age that's huge not only because of the personal conn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:13 PM
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I don't believe women are walking down the street constantly looking at every man they see and going, "Nope. Nope. Nope." Etc Im pretty sure they are and most halfway decent women (already a minority) do have a different level pickiness than say an overweight women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:01 PM
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I think for a lot of women, they way their percieve themselves and their self confidence also dictates how they go about finding a relationship. A small minority of women actually prefer guys less attractive than them physically because they feel it gives them the upper hand in the relationship and they like the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:59 PM
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Scrolling through and knowing that those immediate options exist absolutely changes behavior. I'd hypothetically match on Hinge I dont think you understand how hinge works.. when someone likes your profile they are queued up in a seperate section that you can browse at any time. The like is no longer "hypothetical" once you engage. Women and a very small percent of men dont actually need to swipe at all. They can go through a curated list of 1000s of people who already liked them and instantly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:49 PM
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If men on average were punching down for relationships, there would be a surplus of single attractive women. No becuase single attractive women are already a very small minority to begin with. This point backs up my theory I also don’t have any direct proof, but in my experience, the most attractive women are the ones most likely to be in relationships Of course, theres obviously a direct correlation between the quality and the amount of suitors someone has and how likely they are to be in a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:44 PM
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Exactly!!! Id love to see someone debate against this. Removing yourself from dating apps is essentially running a business and forgoing free advertising on TV because you prefer to go door to door. This would make no sense especially since they aren't mutually exclusive and you can do both
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:36 PM
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Sure although I think theres two major caveats with this theory though. 1) these traits are still being evaluated on a curve aka compared to the people around her IRL (which will generally be more solid options than the masses online) 2) I dont think the average guy has a high degree of confidence, charisma, etc to begin. To be in the upper percentile for those characteristics is technically just as rare as being in the upper percentile for looks and height, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:33 PM
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Well i think a large percent of younger men are single relative to women. I dont habe direct proof of this but my guess is many guys are having to punch down and settle for women on the heavier side in many cases. This would align with what I notice in person
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:15 PM
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Thay makes zero sense. Online dating is a place for single people to congregate and meet each other. What other environment provides anywhere close to same roi as online dating? Becuase its not certianly not my job, bars, grocery stores or anywhere else I frequent
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:23 AM
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So what in your opinion what is the optimal time to wait before "getting physical".. how many dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:08 AM
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And what examples of this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:08 AM
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Regardless it doesnt develop into a relationship is the point. whether the romantic spark was lost or never there to begin with makes zero difference
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:43 AM
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Its not always looks.. usually the romantic spark just dies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:13 AM
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Ridiculous way to approach it. If youre looking for female friends, great strategy. If youee looking to date romantically (what most people want) thats a passive low-intent strategy. Most people prefer to date with intent and direction
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:07 AM
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In my entire life I know maybe 2 guys who escaped the friend zone and turned it into a relationship oit of 100s of couples
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:04 AM
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That doesnt prove your point. The landscape has changed with apps, social media drastically and this is backed by statistics. Like half of relationships are formed from online
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:08 PM
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Disagee. 99% of guys cant keep a sexual connection or maintain attraction in relationships like that. The vibe/attraction will die because there is no romantic momentum. "Attraction isn’t just about comfort and familiarity, it also needs tension, intent, and escalation."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:35 PM
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School and work is just as blind as online LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:19 PM
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I mean in person too even after 2-3 months of meeting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:12 PM
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Those kind of guys are super rare compared to the amount of mentally unstable women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:11 PM
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You missed the entire point. Even in the "4-8 month get to know you stage" its still extremely easy to not show true colors. The only guaranteed way is if you date someone somehow connected to your family I guess the op could be reworded to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:00 PM
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Men can be easier to vet becuase awkward mannerisms are just more apparent usually
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:56 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:56 PM
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Yep less competion the easier it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:38 PM
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Why? Hinge is full of prudes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:54 AM
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Unless they work at a restaurant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:49 PM
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What apps do you use
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:24 PM
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The apps where anyone can message don't work. There needs to be a barrier to entry from keeping the masses of men sending messages to 1000 women a day which is what happens on those 'anyone can message' apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:50 AM
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The personality standards are more unrealistic than looks in many cases
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:48 AM
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don’t think that’s true. I’ve done both, and the ROI on dating apps is easily 10x higher than going out to bars or clubs if your goal is actual dates or even hookups. Most women I see going out are there with friends just to have fun. When they actually want to be intentional about dating and getting to know someone, they’re on apps like Hinge. So it’s not that going out doesn’t work at all. it’s just far less efficient compared to apps for what most people are actually looking for. Ive been wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:16 AM
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You do realize this isnt mutually exclusive.. guys can try to date and also go out with their friends on occasion too right. Its not one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:01 AM
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Well you need to figure out how to get matches then. Youre not even part of the discussion like you said till you can figure that part out. The point im making is that still wont solve much for most guys becuase even when the matches start coming in, the root issue will be in building attraction and forming long term connections
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:58 AM
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Great post — I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but I’m not sure the solution is simply shrinking people’s social circles. There are real trade-offs to that approach. Having a larger dating pool (apps, social media, etc.) undeniably creates more opportunity. Casting a wider net increases the odds of finding someone you’re genuinely compatible with, especially considering how significant a long-term partner choice is. Where I think the issue lies is that while expanded options are benefici…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:56 AM
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Not true. I get like 50-70 new likes a day between all the apps. Granted 70% of the girls liking my profile arent my type so im only left with a handful of new matches daily but they are dating apps are still VERY alive and well if youre in a decent sized city like LA, miami, Austin, NYC, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:37 AM
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Competition us yoonhigj relative to the demand. Most guys even the "incels" are refusing to date overweight unhealthy women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:57 PM
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Any downtown texas area. Its different if youre in bumfuck prairie obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:55 PM
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Yes for sure. Again though my post is relative to how things were a decade ago. Thats the ultimate point. The quality of men in your average social environments is way above the quality and competion from 10 years ago. There used to be chubby guys with messy haircuts going out to socialize. You dont really see that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:46 PM
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This is actually an interesting topic for debate. How much of your personality is set vs you being able to change it. I agree with your take
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:42 PM
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Ive been with a few college girls but the competion is kinda crazy the past year or so. Ive had my fair share though I definitely think less attractive women are going out to bars these days for sure. Wtf do yall do? Lol are most women just going out on hinge dates on the weekends instead or what lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:40 PM
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I'm talking moreso in social environments (bars, day clubs, etc) is could have made that more clear in the op maybe but I did mention that. Yeah if you go a Walmart sure obese ppl everywhere lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:36 PM
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I am jacked lol. I just dont like the added competition. since alot of chubbier women dont seem to be taking fitness as seriously, the ratios are becoming imbalanced
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:33 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:32 PM
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I do just fine lol im just going by what I see when I go out. East and west 6th are pretty much full of what im talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:27 PM
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South congress and downtown, everyone is jacked or in shape and good style
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:24 PM
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30% is low relative to the rest of the country tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:22 PM
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I used to get cuts the same day forever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:22 PM
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Your post is bullshit and you cant counter my views, you can only bitch about what i said
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:21 PM
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No those stats are based on bmi. Im technically obese according to bmi but irl im jacked with a 4 pack and strong muscle definition (not bodybuilder or anything though)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:17 PM
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I agree with all this actually except thr last paragraph. Being "fun and interesting" is entirely subjective. Ive had girls think im boring and others think im amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:14 PM
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Austin texas
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:11 PM
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Yes thats true but the you provided is an example of being a conversationalist (at best) and had nothing to do with emotional depth. Going on a long rant about your feeling, emotions and the minute specifics about why you broke up with somone (aka your example) isnt a sign of emotional depth imo its just emotional ranting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:45 PM
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Thats called using data to support my point. You cant just claim its "cherry picked" anytime it doesnt support your pov. The data is legit and verifiable. Id encourage you or anyone to use data and statistics to support your POV or explain why the data provided is not valid. Thats literally how you win a debate lady
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 09:41 PM
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So asked for stats so thats what was provided. Dont cry about the data just becuase it doesn't support your pov
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:52 PM
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Doesn't refute any of the data provided
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:50 PM
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Im talking in general
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:49 PM
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I dont think you understand the difference between being a decent conversationalist and being well adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:24 PM
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People dont cheat becuase not enough 'shared hobbies, visions or personality traits'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:18 AM
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Same logic applies to personality lol its extremely subjective, abstract and subject to change...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:16 AM
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Black dick porn is gayer than trans
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:15 AM
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Thats why I said good vibes. Personality standards are met too in the hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:42 AM
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sure but what you think is the "best of the best" personality traits to YOU, isnt to someone else. Personality traits are all subjective is the point you dont seem to be understanding here. Yes "personality" is a very subjective and abstract concept that is subject to change so it is absolutely interchangeable with vibes which fits a very similar definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:35 AM
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You’re saying anecdotes aren’t reality.. but the large-scale data actually proves the opposite of your point. Dating apps (which are the biggest dating market today) are heavily imbalanced: ~65–75% of users are men That alone creates a supply/demand imbalance before behavior even starts Now look at outcomes: Women get 8–15x more matches than men The average man has a ~2–3% match rate, women are dramatically higher Men swipe far more, women are far more selective
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:27 AM
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Disagree entirely. We fundamentally see dating differently. You seem to think every aspect of a person's personality is "better or worse" as if this is some big competion and every aspect of persoanlity is black and white. You compare your personality to the VS model thinking youre objectively better or something and that men who dont reocognize or view it thay way "dont have standards" when in reality youre not any better or worse, just different. Your way of thinking is actually very cocky, se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:14 AM
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You skipped the party where I said they need to be well adjusted and have a good vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:08 AM
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No. Why are you assuming I think shes not bringing anything else to the table? Thats the real issue right there is that assumption your making. Its like you haven't even considered that fact that what you THINK you are "bringing to table" isnt any better or worse than what another women brings.. the main thing youre bringing is a different perspective and outlook on looking at the world.. its so self centered and dense to assume your "personality" is so much better than any other woman's, its ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 03:00 AM
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You've got to be kidding 🤦‍♂️ In your own example, man 2 is giving the politically correct answer that says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about "emotional depth". Do women actually perceived that as a response that elicits "emotional depth"? Real "emotional depth" is not about giving some clearly rehearsed canned response (why you broke up with your exes in this case).. if you dig deeper as to why they weren't a "great match' you'll probably find many of the same reasons man 1 listed. Im glad you used this…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:51 AM
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Not really. You missed the entire point which is that men generally dont fixate on weird minute details about someone and frame it under "emotional depth". We look at the totality of a woman's charecter. It doesn't sound like you understand that emotional depth is highly subjective. What YOU believe to be "emotional depth" doesnt make it as such. it's literally just asking them questions about themselves and their life. For example, plenty of people can rant about their lives for hours on end. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:21 PM
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I’m not saying men don’t value connection or emotional depth. The point is that men tend to be compatible with a wider range of women, with physical attraction often being the main initial filter. Beyond that, men are generally more willing to build connection over time rather than disqualify quickly based on smaller personality differences. What you’re calling “surface level” isn’t necessarily a lack of depth.. it’s more that men don’t over-index on highly subjective or variable traits early on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:00 PM
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Oart of the deal is having the baby in the usa, Canada, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:54 PM
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We are in total agreement there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:52 PM
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The declining birth rate is a bigger issue than Globalized Healthcare which generally benefits older individuals who've already reproduced. Without a strong healthy birth rate there is literally no country
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:41 PM
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*flights AND accommodations as well (airbnbs, hotels, etc) and possibly a meal/date stipend depending on the country. Its not about "getting laid' its about balancing out a dating marketplace and improving the birth rate which will be the top issue for the usa in the next 10 years or so
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:37 PM
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Im saying the gov should sponsor these programs for men, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:29 PM
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'Who the guy actually is' isnt the same as nitpicking someones personality to an insane and unhealthy degree. Nice try tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:28 PM
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You bring up good points, but I think there are only a few real ways this improves structurally. One factor that doesn’t get talked about enough is overall health. A large portion of the population is now overweight or obese, and that does affect dating dynamics, both in terms of attraction and long-term compatibility. If a significant share of people aren’t taking care of their health, it shrinks the pool of partners that others are genuinely excited about. That creates more competition for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:25 PM
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Again, the end goal is an LTR, not a quick pump and dump. Genius
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:22 PM
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Thays a fillipino issue. They can sponser their men to move to thailand or somewhere cheaper. Im thinking in terms of what benefits the USA, my country
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:18 PM
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Thats why rhe gov needs to step in and sponsor the travel. Can't do anything about the time but the cost should absolutely be subsidized
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:17 PM
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Who said anything about fucking? Its so men can find relationships and ultimately increase the birth rate.. its soon to be the biggest national crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:15 PM
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The fact you used extreme 'celebrity' outliers to try and counter my argument tells us all we need to know about your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:13 PM
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Omg Such a low iq take. Both those examples are the extreme minority. Things would balance out becuase beauty (female currency) is fsr more abundant than height or oil prince money. Beauty is a scarce resouce in the west since half of the female population is obese. An international dating market would quickly balance out the marketplace even when you factor in the extreme 'heavy hitter' outlier (oil money dudes, tall Scandinavians, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:11 PM
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When did I say anythig about "rich dudes"? You added that 9j out of nowhere and you failed to realize incomes are relative. Theres millions of attractive women overseas who are content with a guy with an average income even a dude making 60k usd
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:06 PM
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The point is the government should be sponsoring it and making time easier for men to pickup women abroad, especially given that over half of women are obese in the USA. The birth rate is declining and its a national crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:02 PM
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No. The dating market is artificially localized to the USA. It needs to be much easier for men to meet women in other countries via travel incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 08:55 PM
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Wildy blue pilled take. "SMV" absolutely does exist. Anytime there is a marketplace, there is competition and market value. The dating marketplace is no different. Your market value is loosely defined by your looks, money and status. There are exceptions obviously. Not everyone values looks, money, status, but most people do value them to varying degrees. Its biological to value these things. The person isnt "right" for you if they lack things the things that you value in a partner aka looks, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:31 AM
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No. Theres varying degrees of what they deem to be masculine. The criteria for masculinity is extremely volatile and subjective and often just grounded on unrealistic expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:47 AM
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I think the main difference is that men generally aren’t hypergamous in the same way women tend to be. Most men would be perfectly happy with a woman who is moderately attractive and pleasant to be around. They’re usually not constantly comparing her to every other woman they see the way women often compare men. Whether that’s biological or cultural is up for debate, but it does seem to show up in behavior. For example, if you put 10 average guys on an island with 10 Victoria’s Secret models and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:46 AM
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I think the one big nuance missing from your post is that there are varying degrees of all the virtues you listed. It could be argued that opened running to the other side of the car to open the door every time your with a man is "people pleasing". Many women would actually agree with that statement yet many would also find it "chivalrous". It seems like theres so much nuance snd subjectivity its impossible to define what behaviors are "people pleasing" as its very situational and context depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:36 AM
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Now tell the charecteristics of a masculine vs feminine women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:31 AM
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Define a masculine vs feminine man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:40 AM
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Do you have tik tok or Instagram installed on your phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:40 AM
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This only happens if you date a woman who is 1-2 points higher smv than you. If youre an 8 and shes a 6.5, she wont have unrealistic expectations. If its reversed, than she will.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:38 AM
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If youre only attracted to 5% of men is another way to read it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:18 AM
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I mean viable dating options for you (could be a combination of whatever your criteria is) For instance for me, its roughly 15%. If you lined up 100 of them, I feel that about 15 of them i could actually have a good long term connection with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:17 AM
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Disagree entirely. Plenty of women love their husbands and its extremely delusional to think otherwise. Some men just need volume in an area where their smv is worth more to find true success
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:11 AM
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More than enough men are already looksmaxxing and well above the average guy 10 years ago. The average guy in 2026 would have been a 7/10 in 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:10 AM
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As a sapisexual. Roughly what percent of men do you think you're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:07 AM
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Lol. Becuase your logic assumes that that 5% also wants a relationship with you.. which probably wont be the case. Also for alot of women its like 1% they are attracted to which makes it even more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:05 AM
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Nah they cope and most those women are mentally ill and on medications. We just need better programs from men to passportmax and start relationships with more attractive women in South American countries. Youre right though many men arent gonna find a decent partner here given the insanity and delusion of so many wmn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:03 AM
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They only been to be attracted to 10-20% to find success
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:00 AM
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They are coping when they say that. There is very small but vocal minority of femcels on here who trying to convince everyone women are happy being alone and single. Dont buy it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:59 AM
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Then you factor in that most men nerf themselves. The average man doesn’t put nearly enough effort on their looks, in comparison to the average woman. Thats why you tend to see a gap in looks. I couldn't disagree with this more. This is an extremely outdated take imo. I go out with my girl often and literally every young guy i see on a friday is swagged out with a fresh cut, in good shape, and good style. Literally every one at every venue. I also have to book haircuts 2-3 days in advance cus ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:58 AM
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No its not about "good on paper" I am just intelligent enough emotionally to understand the things that actualy make me attracted to someone longterm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:50 AM
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Yeah, I do feel for a lot of the lower-tier guys who are struggling. If I were in that position, I’d seriously consider expanding my options geographically instead of competing in a hyper-saturated local market with mentally ill, entitled and ungrateful women. There are plenty of women outside the U.S. western women who are legit physically gorgeous, attractive, family-oriented, and open to partnership. Exploring different environments isn’t “giving up” it’s adapting to where you’re valued. No o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:47 AM
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Your question is like asking "are men really just suppose to date an average girl on their looks level instead of a Victoria secret model who they are far more attracted to?" If you arent physically attracted to 90% of men, thats a YOU problem, NOT a male problem. The great thing is marketplaces (by definition) adhere to a certain order and tend to unfold as they should naturally. If your standards are out of wack, you pay the consequences with constant ghosting, depression, loneliness, etc. Its…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:24 AM
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Im saying thr vast majority of men are willing to provide one or the other. The issue if your screening abilities. You being a 5/10 doesn't entitle you to a 7/10 and youre just setting yourself up for failure. Theres plenty of 5/10s for you to pick from who will commit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:16 AM
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Again you still havent articulated your feelign behind why you like someone. Intelligent people can articulate emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:11 AM
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Im sure you'll live single with a couple low grade fwbs and your 3 cats. Very fulfilling for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:10 AM
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So now youve just shifted the blame to men being undateable. Talk about flawed logic Where is the proof of this? Women (even ugly) get 1000 likes immediately on all dating apps. You expect anyone to believe that all these guys are undatebale? Its pretty obvious that the main issue is women cant pcik and choose properly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:04 AM
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Again with making stuff up that no one said. Check your meds lady. This belief that you are constantly oppressed is just gonna keep you miserable, just fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:02 AM
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I mean a normal weight. And yes some people have to work harder than others
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:59 AM
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Souls recognizing? Thats what low iq believe. Intelligent people understood the difference between love and lust (at first sight)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:56 AM
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Makes sense. Im the same way for women. Not sure why so many people act like this is a supercial way to view attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:10 AM
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Thats called lust not love. And yes ive been married and in love
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:04 AM
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You should be able to articulate to some degree what is it about someone that makes you fall "m'head over heels' for them. If you cant its a sign of low EQ, again people dont know what they dont know. Not everyone has that ability
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:55 AM
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Its not about rationalizing. Its about you trying to articulate your emotions and feelings aka emotional intelligence. Thats something I look for in women but yeah many like you lack that ability which is unfortunate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:50 AM
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Your political views are absurdly warped and twisted. Im pretty apolitical but I cant believe how far off the rails some people opinions go. Unreal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:48 AM
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Idk ive seen plenty of relationships work where men and women have totally different hobbies and political leanings and it doesnt seem to matter. I dont think that should be the glue that holds things together or creates friction conversely
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:43 AM
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I wanted to see if you describe your feeling. The irony is that a lot of people claim emotionally intelligent is a key factor in attraction for them. One of the key characteristics of emotional intelligence is depth and being able to articulate your emotions beyond "just a feeling". That is generally a sign of low emotinal intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:32 AM
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Women lie too.. whats your point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:23 AM
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How are you defining "raw attraction"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:14 AM
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How would you determine any of this from a first or second date? If you cant, what criteria are using to filter ppl out earlier on (first few dates)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:10 AM
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That part part only works if gius have a good personality and can build alot of attraction over time which is in itself a rare skill... most cant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:32 AM
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Those are extremely vague broad categories thats why What are some examples on how you are evaluating someones "brain power" and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:13 AM
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There may have been a time when a Republican and a Democrat could share a lot of the same basic values and just disagree on some policy points, but that is no longer the case in our current political landscape. Why's that no longer the case? Please explain
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:54 AM
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Maybe expand your mind and learn to think on a macro level. Most can't. We're talking majorities here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:52 AM
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Many have said its not the #1 prereq. Obviously It is for both genders Whether they are an ltr person or short term and if theres gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:54 AM
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Reddit is a big platform moron. Lots of successful people post here from time to time for fun obviously. Youre a pussy dude. I just offered up receipts and instead of being a man to find out if im the real deal you start arguing again. Femine and cowardly behavior. I actually back up what I say
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:49 AM
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Physical attractiveness and relationship history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:47 AM
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Dude youre so wrong its not even funny. If you want to make this personal we can go there. Dm me if you really want to be humbled and ill share some receipts. I have like 500 roses on hinge (girls pay money to send me those). My SMV is about as high as you can get without being a celebrity and im actually redpilled. Not fake redpilled like you. I have a solid rotation at the moment and dont even have tome to meet 99% of the girls trying to get at me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:41 AM
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So whats your criteria then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:36 AM
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Most people are anti illegal immigrant. Ive never met a single person who is anti "immigrant'. Thats such a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:34 AM
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You call yourself redpill? Lol Women dont admit to this. Men are fully okay admitting how important looks is in the equation. The average women has 10000 hinge likes at all times and acts like 9999 of them just dont have the personality standards up to par when in reality its all looks. They cant admit the reality for fear of looking shallow. Thays the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:33 AM
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This makes no sense. Please explain how you can larp as someone you are not? Maybe I dont spend enough time on reddit, ive never heard this. Are insinuating men lie about their jobs/careers or what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:30 AM
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And yet you actually think that one of the biggest problems in modern dating is that women don’t “screen” properly? OK Exactly correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:28 AM
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Seems to me like you’re also essentially saying that the vast majority of men these days can’t even meet these basic expectations… only one of two options, but not both Thata exactly what im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:27 AM
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Only 2 things matter for true compatibility. Hiking and shared political slogans aren't either of them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:26 AM
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You misunderstood. Physical attraction (face and body) is not a vanity metric bro..income, spxial status, etc is. Physical attraction is the core basis of attraction. The angle is women dont actually filter for long term compatibility, they filter for the vanity metrics
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:23 AM
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Shes talking about men and commitment im assuming, unless she clarifies orherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:16 AM
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This is a false premise. Youre assuming that men are lie about wanting commitment when the reality is they just often have high standards due to many options and are very picky with who they commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:15 AM
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Lets not put height into the same category as weight. Being overweight is extremely unattractive and says alot about your personality/lack of will power and yes being HEALTHY and having PRIDE in your appearance should ABSOLUTELY be a requirement for all decent people Judging a man or women for their height however is as egregious as judging them for their race. Dont lump them together
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:07 AM
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Women here rarely if ever ask for (manosphere-informed) men’s advice, because we’re here more to challenge TRP talking points I didnt say anything about advice. I said women 'preach" and try to manipulate and indoctrinate "inexperienced" men as you put it into their twisted feminist way of thinking. The same argument your making against TRP i can make against the feminist narrative. "Youre directly talking down to men and trying to preach about what their nature is becuase men are too dumb to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:42 PM
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Yeah.. "hot" doesnt just encompass a pretty face and body though theres other important things that come into play. 1) what are the top 3 defining characteristics of "attractive"? Face, body and height? Or what exactly for you. Thats a very subjective term. 2) humor is always an interesting one. Who is your favorite comedian? Ive found women who profess this is as a top criteria often have weird/cookey/unconventional senses of humor
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:35 PM
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Sounds a bit pathetic but if your in the very small minority of women who can have a fullfuling life hanging with your friends for a few hours then come home each night to an empty (but well decorated) house with 3 cats... more power to you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:16 PM
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And? Ive seen women do the same exact thing with men and preach about what they should and shouldnt value in a partner/relationship. The fact you view that as a personal attack on women rather than a human issue speaks to your own poor attitude and outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:10 PM
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Great list actually. Would you rather have a 6'3 guy with average Emotional intelligence or 5'9 guy with high emotional intelligence? Assuming all else was equal obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:05 PM
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How tall were your last 4 dates/bfs? Also, how are you measuring emotional eq and determining they are above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:02 PM
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Nice. What are your top 5 non negotiable checkboxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:00 PM
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Emotional iq is a funny one. What are some of the defining metrics of emotional intelligence to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:58 PM
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No ones 'chastising' or cares if women end up single or in relationship. Men are just simply pointing out the most likely outcomes. Youre free to gamble, be a sex addict, hate men and be lonely, etc. no ones stopping you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:49 PM
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Would you dismiss a guy a guy who is 5'9 but a figure earner. What exactly is this criteria youve set for yourself with regards to income and height?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:45 PM
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I also never said that was "all that was needed". I said thats a top priority. Not the only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:43 PM
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I understand. Thats why I asked for clarification on how youre determining no one of the 1000 hinge likes would be a good match
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:39 PM
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Uh what. Your experiences are def not the norm. You have a warped view of dating from dating some low quality men and almost certainly having a low smv yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:35 PM
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If those are her standards shes probably already had men like that Lol you recognized the big issue. Good job. If your relationship standards are determined by the guys who have slept with you or would sleep with, youre in for rude awakening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:33 PM
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Many women are too quick to dismiss potentially good connections. Lets take hinge for instance, why are women immediately dismissing and writing the 1000+ of potential likes instead of exploring the connections
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:30 PM
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It seems like youre missing so much nuance and thinking in black and white. It comes down to how you categorize and classify relationships. Most relationships have periods of happy and unhappy, no? That begs the questions, whats the turning point for when a relationship goes from happy one to unhappy one in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:23 PM
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content until their beauty fades and the options left are even more grim than they are now. Opportunity cost is very real unfortunately. How are you determing that you arent into many of the 1000s hinge likes online and why are assuming none of them would be a good match? On a personal level its beneficial for me that women are this picky (as im in that top percent on paper) but I cant imagine having 1000 likes and just immediately assuming none of those options are good enough. As long as a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:15 PM
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Such a long rant to repeat the same point over and over. No one is trying to “decide” for women. You can want whatever you want. The point is that choices have consequences. You can price your 2005 Honda Civic at $100k. No one’s stopping you. But if it doesn’t sell dont complain. Women boasting about the single life is also fine and dandy but youre in for a rude awakening when your beauty fades and the 'hot girl treatment years' dont exist anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:06 PM
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To land a solid partner they just have to be hotter than the competition
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:49 PM
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The overwhelming majority of humans arent content being single. Your point is just inaccurate. Very small number of mgtow and fgtow women relative to the population
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:48 PM
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Becuase solid relationships require compromise to be sustained.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:43 PM
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Only time will tell. Lol at using that article to justify your beliefs regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:09 PM
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6 yrs old. Look at the new research
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:13 AM
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Most people dont care to be friends with an outsider guy who isnt part of their crew unless they are bringing alot of value. What happens is these guys struggle to find a group to out ans pickup girls with successful, if they move to a new city
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:52 AM
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Yeah we actuslly do mind enlightening you on how we vet. Guy code, sorry. Nice try though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:43 AM
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Your math is way off lol. Theres plenty of obvious signs and many more subtle, most men are attuned enough to identify the obvious ones and many of the more subtle ones thanks to the prevalenceof YouTube, social media, redpill, etc warning them. You dont need an EQ 2 standard deviations above the norm to recognize them, just slightly higher. You won't even know what hit you. Most women will just get ghosted randomly or cheated on. Men are even MORE hypersensitive to promiscuity now than a decade…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 07:43 AM
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Thats cus its based on behavior and other aspects aside from looks. Men who have emotional intelligence (aka the type of women men want to date and settle down with) are very attuned to certain things
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:58 PM
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100%. There are so many tells of a girl being promiscuity its not even funny lol. Dont tell them though, they are trying to manipulate so they can cover their tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:28 PM
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Yeah thats true but the problem is many men bypass these filters on the basis of looks/height almost exclusively. What results is bad decisions because hacking that biological wiring is easy with the right tools
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:09 AM
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How tf is that not about feelings? He obviously has feelings if you hits you immediately to let you know it was a good time wtf..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:39 PM
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Somewhat good approach. Id only say its best to find her schedule first before just assuming shes free on x date. Most girls wont want to commit if you assume they are available
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:40 AM
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Yep about the same percentage for me. Do you pay for their ubers over to you if its just fwb type deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:17 AM
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Yeah, this checks out. Watched a FWB swipe the other night left swipe on 50 guys in a row, all of whom had already liked her. Zero hesitation. That level of abundance in completely unfathomable to most single men (rightfully so) and completely warps perception. When attention is infinite, people stop being people and start looking disposable. Dating apps didn’t create the gap, but they definitely magnified it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:05 AM
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Right. So you generally reach out first.. What percent of the time are they reaching out to you for round 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:00 AM
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Yeah I like this one although a good percent of women will view it as passive. It almost seems like if shes real interested, shell reach out again for round 2
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:57 AM
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😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:55 AM
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Id say the same about feminism for women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:38 AM
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I think the old 'social circle' marriage is extremely outdated. It used to be that people married their peers because they were the only people they ever met. But since everyone is online as of the last few years (dating included) high-achieving guys have realized they don't need to marry a second resume. They’re looking for a partner who brings peace and genuine attraction to their life, regardless of what her job title is. Most successful men will try and find the most attractive, high-charact…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:35 AM
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'Rather' is the key word in my last post that you overlooked Your claim is true however it doesn't mean men wouldn't prefer a "7/10" from a "lower" background. it just means the "5/10" with the degree was more accessible during his prime earning years. high-achieving men marry within their socioeconomic class because they spend 70 hours a week in offices, private clubs, and graduate schools... ​This is a result of a limited social map, not a conscious desire for a partner’s "status". Using a sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:54 AM
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A woman's looks supersede that BS. 99.999999999999999% of guys would rather date a 7/10 who is a Starbucks barista than a 5/10 chubby hog millionaire with 3 degrees
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:22 AM
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To be totally honest, this says more about her SMV than anything else. High quality women dont have experiences like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:19 AM
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Your ego and framing is absolutely insane. "the men don't want LTRs with us," No... they dont want LTRs with YOU. Theres plenty of girls in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:42 AM
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Meanwhile you cut off the second half off of my sentence. Very manipulative. Regardless, neither of those statements you highlighted are even contradictory. Come back when youre ready to have a good faith discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:32 AM
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When did I say that.. These things are mutually exclusive. You can accept that you dont know someones true charecter after said date is over despite having a good or bad date. Not sure why thats so difficult to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:59 AM
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Most people are hyper aware of being the best version of themselves on the first date.. just how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:52 AM
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Theres no way all these negative traits show up on a first date unless youre low SMV and cant land a normal well adjusted guy to with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:16 AM
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Its one of many indicators. I look at the totality not one specifc thing. A bigger red flag is having been single for extended periods of time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:45 AM
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That I actually want a guy who appreciates my presence without needing the promise on sex within month of meeting him? Yeah see YOU are the one who views sex as transactional here. You view sex as a chore or something you need do to maintain commitment. A guy would have to a fool to take get serious with someone who operates like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:20 PM
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What? Im talking in general on a first date before sex is even on the table..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:55 PM
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Smh, you know as well i do thats not a viable way to go about it. Most people understand that is extremely off putting and judgemental to be that blunt about something abstract like promiscuity. Promiscuity isnt something that can be immediately quantified, its a behavior pattern that's concerning, not an actual number (despite what the redpill says). Theres no hard cut off by body count, thats not how it works or why its a concern to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:53 PM
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I know this becuase you are extremely manipulative and we are just on reddit. For instance right now, you just shifted the goalpost and created a strawman and tried to frame yourself as you "just criticizing the redpill" which is deflecting the discussion at hand. Not to mention your theories and outlook on men, relationships, etc are very bitter and its beyond apparent from your commentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 09:17 PM
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The guy commenting doesnt know what he is talking about. But I will tell you there is a certain line of pattern observation and questioning men use to absolutely gauge a woman's promiscuity on a first date. Tattoos, past experiences, are obviously some of the big ones. When most men find out a woman is likely to have had a promiscuous past they will often hit it and ghost or hit it and date casually only.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:45 PM
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Its obvious youre bitter and jaded and EXACTLY the type most men are taught to avoid. Obviously some guys will still be down to hit from time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:33 PM
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The moment there’s an "exception" to your moral code becauseyou wanted to "test" something, the moral code is dead. Explanations and regret don’t resurrect it. Anyhow, bad sex usually means bad sex, not failed “personality analysis.” Believing you can reliably judge someone’s character after a date or two is naïve and self-important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:32 PM
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I appreciate the honesty here. That said, I do think it highlights an extremely important issue: when standards, morals, boundaries can be bent that easily due to external influence or situational pressure, it signals that those boundaries/morals arent real. You didn’t do anything wrong, but experiences like this exactly the reason so many men act the way they do around early sex. When boundaries appear situational, men learn to treat them as negotiable rather than fixed. Over time, that shapes …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:46 AM
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Nice but im trying to get to the core, as in what is the motive behind her wanting to touching you and see you again. Also, very poor eye contact can be a sign of attraction too when a girl thinks your really hot they often get shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:39 AM
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Smh. Escalation IS a form of planning Einstein. Youre conflating expectations with planning. "Reading the room" isnt a substitute for planning, its done in conjunction. You seem to think a "plan" means sitting there with a notepad analyzing your every move for the night like it's chess lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:35 AM
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Let’s also be honest here, hardly anyone does hook ups or casual, and the ones that do admit to it being drunk snd during a shitty time in your life, Yeah this isnt true at all. A very large percent of the single daters do first night hookups and labeling them as having mental health issues is just wrong and a bit ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:31 AM
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So why was it "obvious it wasnt gonna happen" that first night despite you wanting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:29 AM
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think the core issue is that many men have learned that boundaries around sex are often selective rather than universal. From that perspective, being asked to wait doesn’t automatically feel like “values” or intentional pacing—it can feel like a signal of lower attraction. Most men don’t want to invest time, affection, and emotional energy while wondering whether they’re being treated differently than other men who may not have had to wait at all. That uncertainty is what turns a lot of guys off…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:16 AM
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The flaw in this theory is that there’s no way to know if “waiting for sex” is an actual universal boundary she in place for everyone or something applied selectively. Most men don’t want to invest while wondering whether they’re being treated differently due to lower attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:09 AM
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Curious man, could you every see yourself in a sales role? Im probably somewhat on the spectrum too,extremely hyper aware of social situations but am one of the top sales guus at my company. When it comes to business sales my mind goes into autopilot and I rarely analyze social situations even though I am cold approaching dozens of strangers daily for work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:03 AM
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I actually agree. Heavy flirting and chemistry should be the determining factor, the problem youre not accounting for is backwards rationalizing. The way we perceive past events (from person to person) is very very different
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:58 AM
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Yea Idk i think not having a game plan is kind of feminine way of thinking. Chemistry and hookups should obviously flow naturally but someone needs to be the guiding force of escalation and thats basically always the man's job
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:56 AM
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Its more like 80/20 for men and 50/50 for women id say. This is why the lines get blurred so often
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:54 AM
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What are your signals thay there is "chemistry'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:35 AM
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Sure but most women expect guys to be the "leader" and have a game plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:34 AM
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Disagree. You can go with the flow and still have a gameplan of where youd like to take things. Many times things dont go your way but doesnt chsnge the fact you should have a game plan in place
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:31 AM
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No. This is your distorted and twisted view of what you think these groups have at their core. Nothing you said is even remotely accurate to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:47 AM
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So its easier to read
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:52 PM
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Security. And not feeling the need to create demand letters in a desperate attempt to try and keep someone loyal.. For starters
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:51 PM
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lol imagine thinking that giving your girlfriend an actual list of demands upon meeting is "masculine" behavior. Thats the literally the further thing from masculine behavior that i can imagine You cannot make this stuff up!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:31 PM
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Its not "enjoying affection' its him wanting to be submissive that makes him less of a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:06 PM
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Literally even the most staunch red pill guys dont believe or think this. You just created a bunch of lies and exaggerations based on your own deep rooted insecurities to follow your false narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:44 PM
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Lool. That def does make him less of a man. No normal man wants to be pet and told good boy. But keep telling yourself 'hes normal'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:41 PM
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Absolutely is a maintenance manual. I agree with all those things. And labeling something an "obsession" doesnt make it true but nice try trying to create a false narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:32 PM
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What a horrible analogy comparing plastic surgery to learning. The equivalent would be hating on a women who made an effort to learn about attraction and male psychology because 'it didnt come natural'. That would be a pretty judgemental and bizarre way to behave or think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:26 PM
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What questions are you asking to determine compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:31 AM
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Did you read her past replies? Shes been extremely nasty, antagonist, and personal from her very first message. Go back and read before you assume im the "bad guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:07 AM
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How can something that isnt even feasible for the majority be "mandatory" pls explain
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:53 AM
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Whether its 6 months or 2 or 3 months, most adults dont have the time.. the same point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:55 AM
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While that's a nice sentiment, it doesn't reflect the reality of modern social life for 99% of people. Most adults don't have the massive social networks or the constant opportunities required to spend 6+ months 'vetting' someone before a relationship even starts. In today's world, expecting that level of time investment before establishing physical chemistry is largely unrealistic and makes it nearly impossible to get a relationship off the ground
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:50 AM
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Right so you have no real gameplay or strategy for determining any of the things that you desperately seek, all you have are "vibes" just as I predicted. Got it thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:32 AM
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🤦‍♂️Can't believe I have to ask the question 5 different ways to get an answer. Obviously conversation is how learn about someone. Fucking Obviously. What specific questions are you asking and what behavior are you trying to observe to best determine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:02 AM
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Youre missing the point of the question. The question is how you determine these things on a first or second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:01 AM
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You cant even define the criteria for the "formal connection" you speak of..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:41 AM
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Your so dense. Never ONCE did I say in here "have sex on the first date". Your messed up man-hating brain concocted that out of thin air. Self-respect men dont allow women to string them along for months on end. I said not to use sex as a bargaining chip AKA if you want to have sex do it instead of imposing ridiculous arbitrary standards If youre twist around my core argument, were done here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:01 AM
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You dont to be an "authority figure" to know what self respect looks like, but nice try. Its pretty obvious to those who have it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:44 AM
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I have absolutely zero interest in your arrogant self nor would any self respecting man. Dont worry. Focus on losing that weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:31 AM
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Youre obsessing over me right now and wont leave my thread. Women in happy marriages dont behave like that. Its obvious your husband doesnt have too many options if he had to settle for you Also youre not witty or funny whatsoever, just cringe. Take care Felicia
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:30 AM
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Shes a pyscho and cringe af. She said "3 degrees" to try and boast about her husband being "high value" lol. Lol dont waste your time replying to that bat bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:09 AM
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"Yea yeah im a fucking catch" So cringe and arrogant. Now I know for sure husband is an absolute loser
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:07 AM
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Tell us this, whats the quickest youve had sex with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:03 AM
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Question. Whats the quickest you've ever had sex with someone? Be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:02 AM
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Totally agree with all that. Guess my question is as a woman who refuses to hookup on a first date, what exactly is it that you need to see or hear to give the greenlight for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:58 AM
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Time to take your meds, grandma
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:55 AM
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Nice but thats an extremely generalized statement. What specifc questions are you asking to gauge if your mindset, morals and goals are truly in alignment? Alot of guys get good at lying about stuff like that. How do you navigate that exactly on a 1st date
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:44 AM
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"Hurt ego" How ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:42 AM
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At what point does someone no longer become a "stranger" You throw out these words like stranger to try and justify your opinion with zero definition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:38 AM
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Im saying sexual compatibility is a big factor, not the defining factor. People arent too "obsessed" with sex, its just an important part of any relationship. I dont understand why your so eager to argue against this? Are you void of good sex in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:37 AM
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Alright lady, time to get back to your unhappy and unfulfilled marriage. Your absolute loser of a husband is waiting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:34 AM
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Your manipulation and word twisting is insane. No wonder your single and alone with 3 cats and have been arguing against me the past 2 hours. No guy irl can put up with you. Youre as pathetic as her, no one you both end up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:33 AM
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Are denying that if you intentionally withhold sex for months many high value men will reconsider?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:30 AM
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Who said anything virgins? you nutjob When did I say women should "be sexually for me"? Youre a pyscho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:24 AM
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You do realize that good sex and relationships go hand in hand right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:20 AM
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Right.. women in happy marriages dont come on reddit and try to attack and belittle 24yos or throw out slut shamming insults to try to get a rise. Very pathetic and sad behavior. Your daughter will most likely end up in a relationship as unhappy as yours by taking your brain dead advice. Guess thats what you want though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:17 AM
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No I think people are saying dont open your legs for everyone. But when you find someone you like, just be normal about engaging in intimacy and dont pretend like youre some special prize unless youre a Victoria's secret model. no guy is gonna buy it. Its very cringe when average women try to "prize frame" themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:10 AM
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You absolutely cannot audit someone soul on a first date. your issue is that you are extremely arrogant and think youre a better judge of charecter than you really are. I can guarantee youre not in a happy or committed relationship with a guy but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:05 AM
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Theres millions of women locally who dont have these bizarre hangups around intimacy and im dating one right now and we are very happy thank you. We hooked up on the 2nd date, no games or bs, and our connection is strong. Continue with your approach yet something tells me based on your attitude, you likely wont even get commitment from a guy youre very attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:02 AM
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On a first date, you aren't auditing a person's soul.. you're watching a scripted performance. The reason it’s delusional is that you’re confusing social grace with character. On a 1st or 2nd date, you are meeting a 'Representative.' Both people are high on dopamine and performing their best version of themselves. You cannot determine 'temperament' or 'conflict resolution' when there is zero conflict and zero stress and its very naive (yet common) to think you can. Anyone can say they value loya…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:43 AM
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Theres so much wrong with whay you just said I dont even know where to start.. ill just make this point You suggested men only want a "safe nut" as easily as possible. This assumes that men don't value connection, which is a strawman. The real difference is that many men view sex as a way to build that connection, whereas your framing suggests sex is what happens 'only after' the connection is bought and paid for with time and emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:21 AM
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To answer your questions: 1)​Timeline: No, I don't expect a timeline. I expect genuine burning desire that overrides 'rules.' 2)​Transparency: Saying 'I wait for commitment' is honest, yes. But it reveals that you view sex as something you give up in exchange for security, rather than something you participate in for mutual pleasure. ​If you require a title to feel safe enough to be intimate, that is your prerogative. But don't be surprised when men view that as a transaction (Intimacy for Secur…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:01 AM
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Well you're playing semantic games. Meeting a romantic prospect from an app for drinks is a date, regardless of what you label it to feel better. ​And saying compatibility doesn't take time is objectively false. You can determine attraction quickly. You can determine safety quickly. But claiming you know you are 'compatible' for a relationship after two dates is delusional. You are just renaming 'sexual chemistry' as 'compatibility' to give it more weight. Real compatibility involves values, lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:56 AM
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Let's be realistic here. Do most people actually present a physical, current STI panel on Date 2? No. Do they need 5 hours of face-to-face time to ask 'are you on birth control'? No, that takes 10 seconds. You're listing logistical hurdles that could be solved on Date 1 or over text. If the barrier is 'I need to know his address' or 'I need to trust him,' that just confirms my point: The delay isn't about deep romantic compatibility; it's a safety background check. Just call it what it is-safety…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:46 AM
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The only one crying here is you. About how you cant get commitment from a man. My posts consistently show I get women. I have 1000s of likes/matches on dating apps from girls far more attractive than your cat lady ass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:34 AM
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"Can't read and is a complete idiot" Funny insults coming from someone who cant even spell. Had 1 night stands 3x this week. Your last insult is funny coming from a femcel who cant keep a man interested, no wonder i struck such a chord with you. Go play with your cats lady
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:23 AM
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Just passport maxx. Easy solution The mgtow mindset is objectively pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:19 AM
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If you match someone online then meet them for a drink, thats a textbook date, what are you talking about.. More importantly: Your argument is weak because true compatibility takes time (months to years). ​There is absolutely no major revelation or data point you discover on Date 2 or 3 that suddenly confirms long-term viability. If you are sleeping with him then, you are doing it based on attraction and vibes, not 'compatibility,' because you still logically barely know him
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:59 PM
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Your anecdotal experiences are meaningless. I could make the same argument using my male friends to counter your point. Means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:44 PM
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Your ai left out the sources for this "9 date minimum" bs
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:42 PM
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<image> Plenty of studies beg to differ. Modern promiscuity is a matter of age
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:40 PM
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I'm curious what specific information you're looking to gather on Date 2 that suddenly flips the switch and makes intimacy 'natural' when it wasn't before?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:38 PM
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Check my edit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:48 PM
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It's not hostility, it's a preference for transparency. If a woman uses sex as a reward for 'investment' or 'commitment' rather than a natural part of getting to know someone, she's framing intimacy as a transaction. Mutual attraction should be the starting point, not a finish-line trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:44 PM
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I got a bridge to sell you if you actually naive enough to believe that women 'wait till around the 9th date"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:40 PM
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Your comments tell me you dont understand how studies work. My studies show different, I can use google ai too <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:38 PM
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Id argue its least 50% or higher of women that do imo. So plenty AND the majority. I have a very high laycount and most my friends do too and close hot girls first night at bars, online, etc You said previously you "want to get to know" a guy before sleeping with him. Im so curious, what revelation could you possibly learn about a guy that makes you go "okay i didnt want to sleep with him on the first but now that he said im so ready". Can you elaborate on this 'aha' moment you realize on the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:30 PM
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Not true. Plenty do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:16 PM
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Translation: You want to extract maximum investment while providing minimum reciprocity. If I have to 'prove' I like your personality by waiting, you’re treating sex as a commodity rather than a mutual expression of attraction. I don’t date 'projects' or women with hang-ups. If the desire isn’t mutual and immediate, I’m not 'weighing' anything, I’m leaving. I’m looking for a connection, not a job interview
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:59 PM
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If there is 'Genuine Burning Desire' (GBD), the first date usually ends in a hookup. If you make a move and she declines, it's a 99% indicator that she's just not that into you. Waiting for a second date rarely changes that fundamental lack of chemistry. Why waste time on mixed signals or 'games' when you could find someone who is actually excited to be with you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:55 PM
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2 for 1
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:57 PM
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No there's tons of normies who are chopped and have big social circle of dudes but no female attention. Super common and the majority tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:09 PM
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Tell us more about this "gunk", describe it in your own words..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:18 PM
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Hmmm sounds like you're hiding behind the 'it’s personal' defense while lecturing me on the humility of a shroom trip. If these experiences actually 'humbled' you or dissolved your ego, im not sure why you'd feel the need to gatekeeper your thoughts on an anonymous forum? ​Claiming to be a master of introspection while refusing to share any actual substance sounds less like enlightenment and a bit more like ego guarding. You’re happy to talk about the 'kiddie pool' of weed, but the moment you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:14 PM
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While women might 'rightfully' criticize certain language in a public forum to maintain social standing, that has zero bearing on what actually triggers their biological attraction in private. ​Saying 'disrespect is a turn-off' is a standard Blue Pill platitude that ignores the reality of the 'Dark Triad' traits discussed earlier—traits that are statistically linked to higher mating success despite being 'disrespectful.' ​Attractive women don't choose partners based on how 'nice' they are to peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:10 PM
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Disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:38 PM
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Lol You’re moving the goalposts. Having GAD or being an alcoholic doesn't make a woman stay with a 'repugnant goblin' for months, that requires a specific, intense emotional hook. ​By calling him a 'total pussy' who resorts to love bombing because he can’t get women any other way, you’re literally describing a low-status male using a high-intensity dominance tactic to bypass a woman's logic. ​If he were truly as weak as you claim, he wouldn't have the 'frame' to manipulate ANYONE. You're trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:33 PM
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You’re arguing against a strawman. No one said it’s a 'miracle cure' or that it doesn't have physical risks like CHS if abused. ​The point isn't that weed automatically kills the ego, it’s that it can be a tool for disruption. If the 'most egotistical' people you know smoke, it’s because they’re using it for escapism, not introspection. ​Saying 'you have to do the work' literally confirms my point.. the substance provides the window, but you still have to look through it. You’re so focused on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:15 PM
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You’re citing a woman with "maladaptive coping mechanisms" and "chemical imbalances." We’re talking about the general female population. ​You admitted he used love bombing. That isn't "kindness" or "politeness", it’s a high-intensity manipulation tactic used to establish total frame dominance. He didn't win her over with a "nice" resume he overwhelmed her psychology which you dont understand on a deeper level ​you said she "had no reason to be with him" but "emotionally wouldn't let go." That is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:10 PM
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Whay are the new things you learned about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:02 PM
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"Few matches i got" Sounds like that says alot about the quality of women you are getting irl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:49 AM
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If you think this has nothing to do with the "pills," you’re missing the fundamental engine of attraction ​Authenticity is High Status: In every "pill" ideology, a "try-hard" or "supplicative" energy is the ultimate attraction killer. THC-induced introspection is a diagnostic tool that identifies exactly where your social mask is slipping. It’s the "Blackpill" for your own personality, forcing you to see the "cringe" and inauthenticity that women sense instinctively. ​Dominance: You can’t have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:47 AM
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Do LSD to find the "Truth," but use THC to fix your presence. One builds the man, the other fine-tunes the performance
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:44 AM
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This is a false equivalence.. choosing a diet is a conscious, ideological decision. Sexual attraction is a visceral, biological response. You don't "choose" what triggers your dopamine and arousal any more than you choose to be hungry. 2) Those "average guys" you see in happy relationships aren't winning because they are "kind." They are winning because they reached a threshold of baseline attractiveness and stability. Kindness is a "maintenance" trait that keeps a woman from leaving; it is almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:32 AM
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​This is the ultimate Blue Pill cope. You are pathologizing millions of women to avoid admitting that biological attraction is amoral. ​scale fallacy: You can't claim "minority" or "mental illness" when millions of women flock to these guys. If kindness were the primary driver of attraction, these men would be universally repulsive. They aren't. ​dominance is the trigger: You’re gaslighting women’s self-esteem to ignore the reality thay power, status, and dark triad traits are biological proxies…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:27 AM
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The argument that 'you can do it without drugs' is a bit of a straw man. You can also travel across the country on foot, but we take planes because speed changes the nature of the experience. THC-induced introspection isn't for relaxation, it's a diagnostic tool. Meditation is a lifestyle,THC is a surgical strike on your ego. For someone seeking radical authenticity in a short period, the 'negative side effects' are usually just the biological cost of processing years of suppressed self-awarenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:14 AM
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Calling total isolation a 'win' is just a cope for guys who have given up. If you've done the ego-work, you realize that true fulfillment requires a solid connection with a woman. We aren't robots and we are wired for intimacy. Pretending you don't need it is just another performative mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 11:07 AM
3

To me, probably about the same percent of men that you would find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:07 AM
3

Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:56 AM
2

Higher when you factor in overweight but not yet obese. More like 60%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:32 AM
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Absolutely. Different rules/dynamics apply to hogs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:29 AM
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Less than 20% of men are dating attractive women* Funny how those extra two words always get left out. Plenty of american men are dating hogs. No one is disputing that and most men with self respect, wouldn't touch a hog with a 12 foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:45 AM
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I get 40-60 new likes a day between all apps but unfortunately most arent my type. Im left with maybe 10 viable new matches daily Also im guessing you arent the most attractive if thats been your experience. Its def not the norm. And using the apps just for validation is kinda pathetic too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:13 AM
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Well its all relative to the competion. I have high standards and if youre dating girls who have dated athletes in the NBA, actors, etc the bar for what is considered "masculine attractive" behavior is set high. Its obviously all subjective and dependant on the observer (the woman)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:50 AM
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Guys are allowed to be a litte husky under certain conditions and dont get docked for it the same way women do. Face card and height are heavily influence things for men. You also have remember the ratios on the apps are extremely skewed. Less than 15% of the userbase across all the major dating apps are even women and only a smallpercent of that 15% are even attractive. So in theory every halfway decent women on the app (obese or not) could match and date a 15%er guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:38 AM
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Women dont do free dates? Wtf are you on about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:26 AM
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Yea finding the right partner is similar to job hunting.. not sure why thats strange to you? Read up on the definition of a maketplace. The issue is people treating dating like a casino-they're always chasing a 'jackpot' instead of valuing what they have. That constant search for a better option keeps them in a cycle of never being satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:25 AM
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It's not about ego; it's about the marketplace mindset. People treat dating like a casino-they're always chasing a 'jackpot' instead of valuing what they have. That constant search for a better option keeps them in a cycle of never being satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:14 AM
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Agree with that and not complaining. Just wanted to aware alot of the less successful guys who complain thinking its only about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:32 AM
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Definitely far more success as a man than you've had as a femcel. Your post history speaks volumes to that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:25 AM
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Yes, several.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:17 AM
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Good question. Im speaking from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:13 AM
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Alot of guys dont realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:06 AM
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Wtf are you even on about. YouTube realize sexual chemistry a big part of any relationship right? Or maybe youre a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:05 AM
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So for you, if someone is attractive, enthusiastic, good size, and great stamina what other factors are are you needing to make the sex "satisfying"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:45 AM
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So for you, if someone is attractive, enthusiastic, good size, and great stamina what other factors are are you needing to make the sex "satisfying"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:44 AM
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Totally incorrect on everything you just said. Like you almost couldnt be further off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:37 PM
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Lol you made my point for me, genius. You cant be a good runner, without being able to walk 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:34 PM
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No shit. Its the prereq. Generally being dominant and masculine is what women are looking for in regards to "good sex'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:57 AM
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I never said it didnt. The point is thay attraction is the prerequisite for good sex. Good sex doesnt exist without attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:56 AM
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Saying "attraction doesn't matter" for women is like saying hunger doesn't matter for enjoying food... you can still eat without it, but the experience isn't the same. Attraction primes the body and brain, making stimulation more effective and orgasms more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:52 AM
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Why would casual sex not be "pleasurable" for women if they have sex with men they're attracted to? That makes zero sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:39 AM
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why your tag say "certified good boy' if your a woman? What does it more, length or girth? If worth, what specifc size do you consider "big"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:03 AM
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So elaborate then on what gets you there. Size, speed, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:13 AM
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...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:55 AM
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What positions do you need to get these
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:44 AM
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I said likes. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:02 PM
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Now I see why youre incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:33 AM
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That seems superficial too though. What was his opening line on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:58 AM
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Not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:57 AM
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Yea getting matches on dating apps is "ignorant' Sure thing pal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:02 AM
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I have 2 questions, 1) what exactly are you susing out "good vs bad options"? 2) Are these 30 orbiters who immediately dm when you post something on IG all men? Do they know you irl or are they just random internet people?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:22 AM
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True. Im talking about left me on read as in no response..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:58 PM
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What are you talking you. You can tell when someone opens your text or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 11:47 PM
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Yea the problem is the virtual world is fake and doesnt lead to the same personal growth that experiences IRL bring. Better to just cut it out completely. I use to game back in high school, cant imagine how much worse off id be now if I still did
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:50 AM
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The fact anyone can be over 20 and get a sense of accomplishment from a video game is insane to me. Porn is sad too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:34 AM
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Tell us youre a beta male without telling us
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:28 AM
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So by your logic.. a homeless bum on the street has as many dating prospects as a Victoria's model.. Becuase "its all subjective"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:53 AM
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Who said anything about being "used and discarded"? Those are words you pulled out of your behind. Are you denying the dating world is a marketplace and there are men and women with higher sexual market value than others?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:00 AM
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This is 100 bs. There are objective metrics that make men and women "high value" from a dating market perspective. Its like saying there's no such thing as a high value or low value car. That would be equally ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 04:27 AM
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