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I didn't have a serious relationship until I was 28. I don't think it's over for a guy. In my case, I was extremely shy, but over time I got over it enough to be functional. I always did feel like I was a little behind though. I never wanted kids or a family, so that wasn't something I felt I "missed out" on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:33 PM
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Not the 80's but in the later 90's and early 00's I started a few relationships from ads on Craigslist that didn't include a picture. It wasn't super easy but I'd write a new one every month or so. You weren't looking for a lot of hits, just one really good hit. I think in the 90's one relationship I was in started with an ad in the newspaper. People were a little paranoid to send pictures of themselves but they would write a stranger for some reason. Something was definitely different about tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:35 PM
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This was kinda true in my day, before online dating became ubiquitous. Hot women were more likely to search for men who were caring or intellectual, mainly because they had bad luck dating hot men (or hot men didn't bother to show those qualities). I'm not sure if it's true anymore - since online dating the emphasis on male appearance seems much more prioritized, and the volume of eligible males is so clearly massive that there's no reason to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:43 PM
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I basically agree, however, I think the systems people operate in can be rigged either for or against them. For example, dating and dating advice currently seems geared toward extroverts moreso than introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 04:51 PM
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No, it's that all that male attention isn't about sex. In other words, women can find guys interested in relationships, not just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:43 PM
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But are they happy? I think so. Especially my exes. I'm like the training wheels boyfriend after which they go out and get a real boyfriend. Stop thinking about the average ones you wanna fuck and think about the ugly ones you ignore. I'm referring to people who are somewhere on the bubble of the Bell Curve as far as that goes, which is most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 05:05 PM
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Because all that male attention is solely about sex. No it isn't. I've been around to know men are looking for relationships too and it's much easier for women to find them. I have sisters, female friends and roomates, they aren't super glamorous, they are an average cross-section of people, and they transition from one relationship to another almost effortlessly (sometimes after a short mourning period for the relationship that just ended, sometimes not).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:08 PM
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Interesting points, but I'm still not on board with most explanations from biology. I see it as more like a Freudian wish to return to the seamless love bond and unindividuated safety of infancy, before you became aware of yourself as an entity separate and alone in the cold indifference of an accidental universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 04:53 PM
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That's an interesting angle but I don't agree. Men don't want to be rejected, and even if their AI partner never rejected them, the rest of life would make up for it amply so there would be no lack in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 04:45 PM
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Ok, but again, aren't they just "responsive" to the kind of guys who "pump and dump" them? At just as high a rate or higher than when they are proactive? Only now they are selecting from a group of males that is probably even more fucked up than the more general group? I'm not getting how that solves the problem you propose earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:24 PM
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I'm thinking mainly of my recent experience on okcupid. At first I thought "oh, this looks great. "Meet" people and get some idea what they are about, write ones you have commonality with, etc. But instead, women are utterly passive and get 50+ guys a day writing them (I exaggerate, but not by much). As a guy, pursuing women like you're in a breadline looking for crumbs is kinda gross. But as a women, does being utterly passive work? Not to hear women bitch about their experience there. Though i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 04:04 PM
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Well, I disagree that there's something wrong with men who don't pursue. I think most men get sick of the bullshit of trying to pursue women who are utterly inert (as far as the effort they put in to meeting someone goes) at some point. But even granting your point in the link above, wouldn't she choose just as poorly (and be just as likely to be "pumped and dumped") from the group of men that actively or aggressively pursue her (a group that probably includes as many if not more guys who have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 03:34 PM
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Why would that be any more likely when a woman initiates than when a man initiates?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 05:00 AM
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Well, men and women are conditioned differently. Women are expected to be more subject to emotionality. Therefor, younger women must be protected from predators and older women can't be blamed if they blur some boundaries. Men are expected to be sexually competent, which can create anxiety for younger men. The fantasy of having an older sexual mentor is more common amongst men than women. However, the model for couples that society presents is usually that of the slightly older male, slightly yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:05 PM
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How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 02:17 AM
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Why do you visit PPD? Some topics are great questions. I like some red pill ideas, but I'm not sure which. This seems like a good point/counterpoint place to explore them. The Red Pill sub is too full of itself and long-winded to be readable (or I just don't have the patience for it; they write some serious scrolls over there). Every good idea will be taken to absurd lengths. They are exhibit A of that. Do you occasionally find yourself dejected or put in a foul mood by the opinions expressed he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 07:47 PM
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No problem. Most people's careers are nightmarishly boring conformist time-sinks. As long as she can support herself, has a personality, and enjoys life in general, fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 09:12 PM
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I included interaction/information gathering as part of first approach. I think even just visually you can get some information about a person. It may often be inaccurate, but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:02 PM
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There is nothing special about anyone at first approach. I'd disagree because some guys approach anybody with a pussy with that as an end goal and other guys (though still interested in pussy) have romantic aspirations. The first group tends to give less fucks and be better at approaching. However much of a projection the second group's romantic aspirations are they usually are more selective. I've come around to relying on a woman's impression of me on first approach. I used to fight the idea o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:10 PM
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Ding ding ding! Surprising how few people realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:00 PM
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Those are very good actually. If you are already texting the guy and inviting him to things I wouldn't describe that as passive at all. When you said "passive signals" I thought it was going to be stuff like "I touched my hair" or "I wore an attractive blouse" to attract someone you barely know. I've even heard women say they signal interest by not making eye contact because "men like the chase", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 03:53 PM
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"His lack of pursuit is equivalent to a rejection." This seems like insanity to me. Experience has shown that a very small percentage of women are receptive to even just talking to me, let alone having any interest in me. I can't run up like a puppy to all women I might be interested in. Well, I could, but it would be an exercise in futility. "Women make themselves available by passively signalling interest" How do women signal interest passively? In my youth I often misinterpreted women being n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:37 PM
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I'll take a shot for the hell of it. I would give such an investment a chance because, 1) It's really no skin off my back. I go months without pussy so I can wait a few dates, especially if I like this girl. If I don't like her I'm not going to want to have sex with her at all. So the investment is low cost to me. 2) Part of why I find TRP unreadable is that they think all sex is good. It isn't. If you're totally desperate, maybe. But barring that condition, sex can be pretty boring and sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 05:02 PM
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Negging works because we respond disproportionately to criticism. That's why you often hear pro athletes say "no one said we could do it" and so forth. Of course everyone thought you could do that; that's why they paid you a zillion $. But apparently one person somewhere doubted them and that's what stuck in their mind. Everyone's like that. You can get 99 good reviews of your book (or whatever) but the 1 negative review will stick out in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 06:51 PM
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women message 1st when a man is out of her league. pump and dump city Maybe don't fuck unless you want to fuck? Your 1st point is probably true though, cause that's what everybody tends to do. But your second point paints women as completely inept and helpless. I would wager women do worse with the passive strategy because they are guaranteed to net 100% of psychos and players in the vicinity who look at approaching as a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:41 PM
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Sounds like excuses to justify passive behavior. The premise of what you say is that all guys who don't approach aren't worthy. So it's whether you agree with that or not. I think it's absurd - I would reason that lots of decent guys have had good relationships but still get burned out on "the chase". The other premise at play is that worthwhile guys enjoy pursuing. Some do, some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:24 AM
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If that works for you, then great. This post probably isn't for you. It's for women who aren't happy with what they're getting using the utterly passive (non) approach. I think I hear enough women bitching about it that it is reasonable to suggest they mix it up a little in terms of what they're doing (or not doing).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:32 AM
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These are all great. I think it's also being interested in what sex would look like without inhibitions, repression, constant fear of "oh is this the right thing? Is this ok?" running through the head, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:37 PM
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I gave up porn and masturbating for a few weeks and my libido decreased a lot. I wouldn't say it was pleasant or unpleasant. It was nice not to be distracted by it. But eventually I missed the pleasure that they provide and picked up both habits again. If I need to clear my head now I can masturbate or just move on to something else by focusing my attention elsewhere. As far as cons for women goes, it would mainly be guys who aren't getting any anyway who did the libido limiting, so women would …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 12:43 AM
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It buffers men from being able to be vulnerable with a woman because porn objectifies woman and impedes upon a deeper more intimate emotional connection. I guess it depends on how you feel about objectification. I think it's a part of life because we are part object. Also, we shed social roles in intimacy and part of that can be to reveal the animal essence, if you will. I agree that porn can be desensitizing and escalating; sort of addictive in the pavlovian sense since you get rewarded with pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:52 PM
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