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13

Yep, this is the one right here. And a lot more women are like this than people seem to realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:30 AM
6

So the main reason you aren't currently a stay at home parent/homemaker is that you cannot afford it? If you could afford it, you'd choose that lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:12 AM
7

What’s that? I get to be a stay at home mum married to a loving husband whom I have children with, and I get to raise those children and bond with them for the majority of my time? You can do that right now, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:58 AM
15

Good thing I like the lifestyle. Not doing it for appreciation. Then why aren't you doing it right now? You don't need to be a woman to live this lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:54 AM
10

Yeah that one is tricky several sites state it in the 90+ percentile and when i asked grok it wrote that its common for men to pay then i look up a percentage and its only 10% thats odd. The problem is you are trusting grok instead of finding actual sources. Grok can't even correctly name what movies clips are from when people ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:50 AM

But I hope you're not implying that heterosexual women are attracted to men to the same degree that heterosexual men are attracted to gay men. Yes, we feel the same level of sexual desire toward heterosexual men that we aren't attracted to that heterosexual men feel toward gay men. Zero. None. In fact, we feel more disgust at the thought of having sex with a man we aren't attracted to than anything. It would provide zero pleasure and come with a ton of negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:53 AM

You have the same privilege because you can get sex literally any time you want as well - from other dudes. I don't know how many times we have to say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:45 AM
12

You are the barbarian - what are you not getting here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:36 PM
1

It's not the same fate when she will almost certainly be raped repeatedly and they will likely be laborers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:50 PM
5

A lot of women (myself included) will tell you they'd rather be killed than raped. So yeah, we'd also rather be worked in horrible ways as slave labor than raped constantly as sex slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:49 PM
1

This comment definitely helps me to understand better. I do think women do not suffer from the "I need to get off just because it's distracting me so much" issue in the way men do. So, porn helping them to just get it over with faster so they can get back to their regular life seems reasonable. I also think the not pressuring your girlfriend into sending nudes thing is really sweet and thoughtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:23 PM
6

I do think it's fair that women who don't want their partner to watch porn should be happy to actually have sex with their partner a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:22 PM
-2

Okay but what about my point about men throughout almost all of human history using their imagination?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:21 PM
0

I'm genuinely curious about the imagination thing. As OP said, for the vast majority of human history, people did not have this much porn available at any time. And presumably, men were still getting off regularly. They were likely using their imagination, right? And most women I know who masturbate (and have discussed this) do tend to just use their imagination more frequently than porn. So, is it really true that imagination isn't that great or is it just a lot of guys today are out of practic…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:52 PM
0

If you prefer porn (where you're not actually having sex) over your girlfriend (who actually is having sex with YOU) that's a severe porn-brain/addiction issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:49 PM
4

High school.... okay that explains it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:22 AM
0

Yep, this is not her getting the "ick" because you cried and weren't masculine enough. This is her being disgusted that you tried to turn your own inappropriate behavior around and make it out to be her fault by crying when told you were out of line with your anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:37 AM
9

Okay, if a woman at least can sell her body for survival, wouldn’t that make men oppressed Men are also very much able to sell their bodies for survival, to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:42 AM
-1

Is they are doing better than nothing The problem is, women do not consider being used for sex to be better than nothing. They consider it worse than nothing. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 03:48 AM
7

It's a fine complement, but I'd say a more platonic one, which is kind of the point. Not really? That's exactly the sort of compliment I'd expect from a guy hoping to build a serious relationship where you'd be the mother to his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:56 AM
3

The point is, women wouldn't do that because they recognize the third option - no dick - always exists. And most women consider that better than bad or neutral. There's no need to fight for something you don't want. You fight for "good" and if you can't get it, you settle for "none" because that's preferable to "bad" or "neutral." Think of it like any other item that you do not need but simply want - like some kind of product. Maybe I really want this perfume that I personally think smells beaut…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 02:22 AM
1

You seem confused. The point is that the so-called "meek" guys who are "frustrated" about being unable to attract women are also egotistical pricks. They don't view themselves that way but the fact that they seem to think they're such a catch and that they are insulted women don't want them, pretty clearly shows that they are full of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:05 AM
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And some men claim to be respectful and decent and still don't struggle with dating while it's is clear that they aren't so respectful and decent as they think/claim they are And some men (many online) claim to be respectful and decent while still struggling with dating - while it is clear that they aren't as respectful and decent as they think/claim they are. If you're finding yourself needing to vent on the internet about how you're so nice and respectful but can't succeed in dating - consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:02 AM
2

So do you feel objectified when you provide 'validation' (which is, I assume, how you're describing friendship and conversation - since that what is being advocated for here) to guys and they don't give you sex and romantic affection in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:32 AM
15

And how did you open up? Was there crying/yelling/fists through walls etc. Just want to say if you are yelling and putting your fists through the wall, you are not "opening up" emotionally to someone. You are losing control. And if someone broke up with you after you punched a wall in front of them, they'd be perfectly justified - because they may no longer feel safe around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:10 AM
1

But the attraction slowly faded and eventually we broke up for "unrelated reasons" but in reality that gave them the ick. Have you considered that maybe the "unrelated reasons" actually existed and you have created this narrative in your mind to make yourself feel better about her breaking up with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:07 AM
2

So if you are only sexually attracted to women, does that mean every single guy you meet in your life is an NPC to you? No, I doubt it. People aren't divided into "I'd want to have sex with them" and "I don't care about them at all and/or just tolerate them" categories. Friends also exist? And even if we don't know someone, it's still normal to recognize them as a whole person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:07 AM
6

Perfect response. The amount of time they put into creating these elaborate theories could be better spent just actually interacting with people. Then maybe they'd realize how ridiculous they sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:47 AM
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If she sleeps with him early, then ofc the value function of sex has not changed to yielding Argument 4 invalid. Of course, it is impossible to test this way, so one has to resort to general statistics and evolutionary arguments. From these, we know women tend to employ AF/BB strategies and that historically, most men did not end up passing offspring (40% of men vs 80% of women). I love how you use language like this and attempt to structure your post like you're writing up part of a literature …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:40 AM
2

Okay, will you feel better if I say "neither men nor women are inherently bad at being friends. People who view relationships as primarily transactional (like OP - based upon his own descriptions of what he thinks makes someone a good friend), however, are generally bad friends."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:24 AM
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Tl;dr version "I'm a crypto bro who views all relationships as transactional and if you don't give me things or do things for me, I will not care about you." ...you understand that is exactly what makes someone a terrible friend right? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:28 PM
9

Yep, exactly this. That is not an article based on a peer-reviewed research project. That is a blog based on polls conducted by an inherently biased organization.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 02:52 AM
3

Yes. Typically if someone you love dumps you, you continue to feel love for them mixed with extreme hurt and that can manifest as hate. Also, why are you still speaking to your ex and worried about their tone to you after you dumped them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:48 AM
1

Maybe because you dumped them and they now consider you an asshole. Does that not make sense to you???
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:37 AM
0

that some of the challenges warranted because it's very clear that she only cares about being Queen for the name and the power only Based on the source material and goals of the show creators and GRRM, sounds like you're greatly misinterpreting the show but cool LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:58 AM
4

And it was gay twitter that was behind the trend of saying both of them had dad bods so.....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:56 AM
5

The problem is being honest would be "I'm sorry but I am not attracted to you or interested in you in that way at all." And a lot of men would consider that downright rude - even though it's just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:17 PM
2

Or unless it's a direct and clear enthusiastic "yes," assume it's a "no" and move on. Very simple and solves both of their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 08:14 PM
8

I do remember that none of them were overweight though all were skinny/average build. This is the point they were trying to make though. The average woman in the US is overweight. This includes younger women. So, if they were all skinny/healthy and not overweight, they were above average, looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:45 PM
1

I know extremely good looking guys who have tried to get sugar mamas, they failed. Bet they could get a sugar daddy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 07:30 PM
4

lmao the fact that you don't realize, based on your comments here, that you are exactly the type of person who will be a shitty husband to literally any woman because of your obvious disdain for women in general (and therefore are a great example of what people are trying to say here) is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:43 AM
3

Sounds like they aren't "top" women then. The point is that the ones guys want are above average - unless the women you're talking about wanting look like the ladies in the pictures shown at the link above. The women most men are calling average are still a very small minority of women and therefore above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:38 PM
9

Not really, on average men who are only interested in women for sexual satisfaction will treat you shittier than men who want to be in a serious relationship with you. Once again, the flaw in this is that you're assuming men who want serious relationships actually like women and would treat them any better than the hot guy would. Nope, the guys being talked about here want a relationship because it's the easiest way for them to have consistent sex, while maybe also having children and someone to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:31 PM
2

Would you be happier if people said "being a misogynist and being so socially inept you can't even remotely hide it from any of the women around you is what keeps you from getting laid"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:27 PM
2

You did by posting this. Men who are successful with women aren't on here ranting about these topics or generally, even thinking about them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:24 PM

In almost all cases, the act is ultimately controlled by the woman as consent is almost always considered as having been granted by the woman when it comes to sex. It's ultimately controlled by the man because he could simply choose not to ejaculate inside the woman and then there'd be no chance of a pregnancy happening or a child existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:42 AM
0

Then what is the problem? If you're already doing those things then no one would be saying to "change" everything about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:30 AM
2

You can be ambitious in life in relation to things like your career and your health goals while still being into nerdy stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:32 PM
6

Like Im a huge nerd and do nerdy ass shit. And? You can be a nerd who does nerdy shit and still take care of your physical body and appearance, eat healthy, and be ambitious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:30 PM
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An equivalent scenario should be then a man that it is raped by having Heterosexual sex... No the equivalent scenario is a man being penetrated. If you want to say it's a giant woman more powerful than him, holding him down and using a dildo, fine. But the penetration is an essential part of why rape is so terrifying and violating for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:37 PM
0

Well yeah, pretending to be nice in a desperate attempt to get laid and then turning into a dick when it doesn't work out, is bad advice for anyone hoping to find a date lmao. Instead, these guys should just act like the women there are just people, be themselves, be sociable, and hopefully at some point they'll make a connection with someone based on genuinely mutually liking one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 07:39 PM
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I'm a woman in a community that is 90 percent men (fighting games). If by "too much kindness" you mean guys pretending to be nice to try to get laid and then turning on you when that doesn't happen? Sure. If you mean genuine kindness - lol no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:24 AM
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and if their is an equal number or guy majority they will not go even if it is an activity they are interested in. Because they expect to be harassed or otherwise treated like shit in a group that is mostly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:19 AM
10

Everyone is trying to explain to you the simple fact that the vast majority of women do not want to be in a relationship with someone who does not ever enjoy socializing or has social circles. That's just reality. It doesn't matter whether you get "concrete things" from a marriage and will try to offer them in return. That isn't enough for most women. So if you actually ever want a relationship that'll lead to marriage, you'll have to learn to socialize, develop friends, and try to find somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:00 PM
2

Honestly, I think it was a couple of things. One, I was a little overweight as a teenager and was definitely worried about gaining weight back if I didn't stick with my routine. Additionally (and related) part of the reason I gained weight in the first place was I developed pretty severe asthma and went from very active to constantly having asthma attacks whenever I tried to do anything cardio related. It had taken me a lot of time and experimentation to find ways I could gradually get into shap…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:28 AM
9

This is it right here. I had an exercise addiction for years and I absolutely refused to see it. I said similar things to some people in here about how you need to stick to routines and how nearly every day per week for a couple hours was fine, etc. Looking back on it, it was greatly impacting my every day life and relationships. Logically, I could easily skip one day of working out for a holiday, to go to a family event, or a friend's party, or to get some much needed sleep on a day where I had…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:34 PM
5

What more data do you need then the millions sized sample that dating apps have provided which have shown women display lopsided preferences towards 5-10% of men. How about information from the large number of women who have never used dating apps and tend to be less focused solely on physical appearance in a picture when deciding what and who they find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:22 AM
1

Acquaintances knowing someone and vouching for them is still safer than getting together with some random who cold approached you in public. Why would you find it even remotely weird that women would prefer dating someone that is at least known by people in their social circle (and therefore at the bare minimum capable of socializing with other people at the most basic level) over someone that they know nothing about - other than the guy must've thought they were hot since they cold approached a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:20 AM
2

Can confirm (am a woman). I think Pattinson is good lucking - much more so now than when he was younger - but neither Tatum or Lautner. I have friends who feel exactly the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:14 AM
1

Ehhhh I think you're misinterpreting. Fuck boys try to convince every woman that they view them as special and they could be the one to "lock them down" if they put out. The difference is, women with high self-esteem are not desperate to believe this. They know they can find a guy just as attractive but also who is not a fuck boy, so they'll send him on his way. A girl with low self esteem will fail to recognize that she's being played or let herself be deluded because she doesn't think she can …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 06:49 AM
1

yet all the women I have dated have had had a "hoe phase" as they put it. Most men don't have hoe phases and it creates frustrations. Honestly, this is about who you're choosing to get to know. Almost none of the women I know (including myself, family, close friends, work colleagues I've befriended, Uni friends, etc.) have had "hoe" phases at all. Most have had one or two serious relationships and settled down. A couple of them had one or two hookups in addition to that. The truth is, while ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:16 AM
1

Then they should just try for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:13 AM
7

*Guy, not hot enough for to jump his bones, so you're getting him to jump through hoops to see if he'll be a good boy for you, so you can control him. It isn't about him not being hot enough. It's about him, in addition to being hot, having other good qualities. The other guy is only hot so he isn't worth getting to know or having a relationship with. The problem seems to be, to me, that guys think if a woman has sex with you immediately it's because she absolutely can't restrain herself. Wherea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:13 AM
2

Then he shouldn't try to have relationships. If he can't get casual sex with people who don't want relationships, guess he should just masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:11 AM
5

You don't die from not having a roof over your head either but you'll be pretty miserable sleeping on the streets now won't you? You literally will die of exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:10 AM
11

You aren't making him put in "more work." You're enjoying spending time getting to know each other and making sure you are compatible. This is part of the issue women are trying to get guys to understand. We don't see that as "work." That's the good stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 11:10 PM
7

What? She's using one night stand guy for his body too. She also doesn't care about him. This is the issue guys refuse to accept. Women also sometimes just want sex. And sex can mean different things to people in different contexts or with different people. For many people, sex can be just about getting off. In which case, all they want is a hot body to get off with. But then in other situations, when they're in a relationship, sex becomes about more than that. It becomes about forming an intima…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:44 PM
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I'm arguing the faulty reasoning as to why women think that way because logically it makes no sense. LOL it makes perfect sense. You just refuse to acknowledge that because for some reason, guys on here think that sex should always be the primary goal in any relationship, whether casual or serious. So they cannot understand why women would not have the same priorities and may act differently if they want a relationship than they would if they want a one night stand. But sure... you're the logica…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:22 PM
7

LOL no but this is amazing because my comment on this page literally calls out guys like you for just refusing to believe women when they tell you what's real. You're too caught up in your own bullshit that even when you ask women for why they behave a certain way, you refuse to listen and insist you know better. You're just proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:02 PM
6

Oh I'm laughing at you. Because women don't actually need men to do those things that you listed. Women also pay taxes. The gov't in the US does not help you pay for abortions. As for the war thing - if there was actually a total war type of situation with another major world power, we'd all be obliterated by nuclear weapons. But as it now stands, the wars we engage in tend to be political wars of choice, which men volunteer to be a part of - and if anyone is pushing them to go off and fight any…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:48 PM
5

I’ve had instances where I was very interested in someone but after sex I just didn’t feel the same. Exactly - and women are aware that can happen with a lot of guys. If it's just because of sexual incompatibility then she might lose feelings too - but sometimes for guys this happens even if the sex was good. They suddenly realize the interest they had was far more sexual than even they may have understood and now that it's happened, they are just done. So women want to take their time and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:36 PM
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But what you don't understand is that the casual sex guy isn't getting sex because he puts in low effort. He's getting sex because women find him physically attractive but don't like anything else about him enough to try to engage in a romantic relationship. To you sex is not a reward, but to men it's the primary goal of relationships. And that's the issue and why men and women will never see eye to eye on this. For most women sex is only the primary goal of a casual, emotionless fling. It is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:32 PM
7

This is absolutely true. The entire reason they're here is because they're angry and confused that women don't want to have sex with them. Most of the women here are angry and confused about the way men treat women generally. And these concerns are not comparable yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:08 PM
1

Also, I'm not entirely convinced this is even a thing - guys on here complain about it constantly, however most women either wait to have sex with everyone, or they have had sex quickly and been burned so now they want to wait. Everyone I know who has casual sex also doesn't wait for relationships. However, if they did I wouldn't see it as an issue. Absolutely this. I've tried explaining possible reasons and perspectives to guys on here, based on what some women I know have told me. But most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:03 PM
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She means she's prone to attachment from sex if it's with a guy she already thinks she has feelings for or could develop feelings for. Like, if she has a little crush on a guy and they have sex, she'll be head over heels fully onboard after that. So, if she slept with that guy on a first date, got attached, and then he said "eh I'm not sure I want anything serious with someone who'd have sex so soon" she'd be deeply hurt because strong feelings would've already developed. However, she could have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:59 PM
1

Case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:54 PM
4

This is saying you liked all the men who didn't give a shit about you more than the man who actually likes you and wants to be with you long term. Or the opposite. They actually liked the person they're trying to build a relationship with for more than just their body. So they're taking it slow to make sure there's a real connection and some trust before jumping into sex. The casual guy they only liked for their body so they didn't worry about waiting. They, like the guy, just wanted no strings …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:49 PM
6

I literally laughed out loud at this one. Thanks lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:47 PM
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After reading the comments from other women on here, trying to explain our perspective and many of the responses from guys, I've concluded this ultimately comes down to one thing. Guys don't believe us because of their own insecurities. Numerous women are on here saying we don't view sex as a reward and that often, women choose to wait to have sex with "relationship dude" because they want to get to know him first and establish compatibility and trust before sex, precisely because women like thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:24 PM
2

She fucked some chode without any of this, but now she won't do it for potential boyfriend, which means she treats sex as a reward, relationship is automatically transaction. No. Why are you not hearing what people are saying here. She had casual sex with a guy who she didn't give a shit about beyond his dick. She wants to actually get to know the guy who she DOES care about for more than just his dick. It seems like the problem here is men getting insulted women don't view them as the casual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:10 PM
2

Nope. Happily married men don't spend a lot of time ranting and raving on MGTOW and redpill subs. Good luck with your anger toward women because of your sexual frustration though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:05 PM
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I read the most horrifying Am I the Asshole post a couple of weeks ago. A guy came on there to ask if he was the asshole because he told his girlfriend of four years he wanted to get kinkier in the bedroom. She agreed and they were doing more kinky things, and now he says he can no longer view her as a soulmate, or potential wife and mother to his children because of how she degraded herself. That she seems just like a hot FWB to him now. Which made her break down (obviously) and say she thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:57 PM
3

Well no. It isn't because she views it as a transaction. She just wants it to be part of a relationship with this person, not detached from it. So before she engages in the sexual part of that relationship, she wants to establish it's a relationship to begin with. And it's nice you think that's unrealistic but I promise you, there are some men out there who are absolutely that cruel. Hell, there was even an Am I the Asshole post a couple of weeks ago where a guy had been dating his girlfriend fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:40 PM
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It isn't about making them "work for it." It's about taking the time to get to know each other, so you're sure you actually trust this person to be kind to you/care about your feelings and be sure you actually have things in common other than sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:36 PM
4

but why would your feelings get hurt in first place? in both scenarios what you wanted didn't work out, so what makes the difference? If she sleeps with him early on, even though she wants a relationship and he turns around and says "hey thanks for the sex but nah - you fucked me on the first date. So, I don't see you as the type of person I could introduce to my friends or take home to meet my family. Too trashy," that obviously would hurt her. How do you not see that would be hurtful?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:31 PM
1

Now at what point have I ever said good men deserve sex, never once said that sweetheart, at what point have I ever said sex is a reward, never darling. That's the whole point of the post. Your condescension doesn't make you look any better and just makes me further enjoy upsetting you. Let's get this straight, I am not a good man, in fact I'm probably the worst kind of man you'd be likely to meet, something that always entertains me, is even knowing that your very own narcissistic solipsism wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:22 PM
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Oh no, I'm basing it on your comments as a whole. Not just that one comment. Someone's worth isn't based on their sexual ability, no. However, if someone is so upset about their sexual failures that they turn into a red piller and scream at women online about how mean they are not to "reward good men" with sex, then I will happily judge them, no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:15 PM
1

Look, it seems as though you think people should be consistent across all people they date or sleep with. Men and women should both always be looking to either have sex on the first date/casual sex or never be looking for that. If you ever have casual sex you should have casual sex at all times. If you wait three dates with one guy you should always wait three dates. But that means, by default, you aren't actually looking at the individuals you are engaging with as people themselves who have dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:13 PM
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You don't have a relationship for sex, then a relationship for love. Many, many people do. It's more common among men than women, true. But many people absolutely do this. You may wish it wasn't the case but it is. And as long as you're only sleeping with one person at one time, you're still monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:06 PM
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Oh okay, let me try. You need to spend more time self-reflecting in order to come to terms with the fact that your own failure to attract women is due to your own personal failings and not some attack on men by an entire gender, rather than raging on reddit because you can't get laid. Like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:03 PM
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No. You can accept that desire is part of love but that love isn't automatically part of desire. You can love someone (which will mean desiring them too) but also only desire someone else. It's only a Madonna-Whore dichotomy if you don't feel the other person is deserving of love from you or anyone because of their sexual behavior. Women aren't choosing casual sex with one guy and relationship with another because they think one guy "deserves" sex and one guy "deserves" a relationship. They're c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:01 PM
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You can't accuse someone else of lacking introspection or empathy and then say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:56 PM
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That isn't a double standard which was already explained and covered by me and multiple other women in this post. That's why I said we went ten steps backward. I thought we were beyond that and into discussing why some people are more careful and thoughtful about jumping into bed with someone they might want a relationship with than they are about jumping into bed with someone they just want sex from. And how you don't have to have the same desires (relationship or sex) toward every single man/w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:54 PM
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But who is having double standards? What? Where did that come from? I feel like we just had an entire conversation that was actually relevant and interesting and you just jumped back ten steps so I think I'll wrap it up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:50 PM
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Possibly. But you can also get : Relationship C, good relationship and also great sex. And relationship B is almost always improvable sexually if the two people are willing to discuss what's going wrong and figure out how best to please each other. That conversation is also much more likely to happen if you had built the relationship first before jumping into bed. Because you also could have : Relationship D, jumped into bed and the sex was terrible - both people feel awkward about it and either…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:46 PM
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That's definitely a risk and is a real problem - you're right. And I think a lot of people at that point just genuinely like the person so they think "I can put up with the bad sex" but ultimately that relationship is doomed to go down in flames as well. If you do get to know someone, the two of you really click personally, but the sex is bad, the best thing to do is for the two people to be honest with each other about that and try to work on fixing it. Communicating about what's working and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:37 PM
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If they view sex and LTRs as entirely separate things I'd agree that's not healthy. I simply think trying to build a long lasting relationship when your only common ground is sexual attraction is much harder than trying to build one where you have more in addition to sex that you enjoy about each other. And if you jump right into bed immediately and the sex is good, let's face it, that's probably all the two of you are going to want to do when you see each other - at least for a while. Then sudd…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:27 PM
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Not necessarily, but if a dead bedroom forms, shouldn't they break up? I think that depends on the situation. If they're having no sex ever and one person is miserable than obviously they should break up. But if you go from sex daily to sex once a week as you get older because of having children, health issues, working 60 hour weeks and other reasons that sex reasonably would be less frequent over time, most people in solid relationships with a partner they love and just enjoy spending non-sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:19 PM
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But if she likes the guy more whom she wants commitment from, wouldn't she want to fuck him as much? Maybe, maybe not. It depends on her priorities. I have mentioned this in a few comments but if your relationship is founded in sex it'll be shaped differently than if it is founded in other things (enjoyment of each other's company, shared interests, mutual goals, etc.) and then progresses to sex. Usually if you want a full partnership with someone, you'll want to prioritize building those other …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:09 PM
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This is not a thing, btw, guys don't do this unless they are pretending to be "pure". What? I definitely know guys who view sex as too personal and intimate of an act to do on the first date (or until they've developed feelings). Not all guys are the same. I agree sex should be integrated into a relationship. However, the initial components your relationship is built upon tend to shape the trajectory of that relationship. If a relationship starts out as being only about sex, between two people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:02 PM
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But.. if he wants to wait because he isn't ready to have sex yet and wants to prioritize the relationship it isn't about her at all. That's what I'm talking about. A guy who wants to have casual sex with some women and wants to take it slow with others. Because of how he feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:55 PM
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What? You're the one that did that by starting to randomly talk about the relative attractiveness of people women sleep with vs. have relationships with. That was clearly not what I was talking about. I really feel like you just have zero experience talking with women like they're human beings and not sex rewards to be won and I'm not going to be responding to you any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:47 PM
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Most women I know don't have to use tinder for sex or a relationship. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:45 PM
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That just seems like fantasies guys tell themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:43 PM
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No a guy would have a Madonna-Whore complex if he felt only women who don't have casual sex are worthy of a relationship. I'm not talking about those guys. I'm talking about men who have casual sex at some point (because they're not looking for a relationship at all, just sex) but later on they choose to take it slow with someone they seriously like because they want to take it slow. Not just because she wants to. Not because they think only whores have sex on a first date. But because they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:42 PM
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Who says that they are? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:40 PM
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That isn't saying what you think it's saying at all. She's saying women might want to have one night stands with someone if they find them super attractive and are only interested in sex with them. If they later find a guy who they also find attractive but like for more than just his body, they'll be focused on more than just getting laid. If it's someone you want to build a relationship with based on more than sex, you'll want to put the "non-sex" elements of it front and center. Maybe that's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:34 PM
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Unless she blatantly says to him "sex is really special to me. I don't believe in casual sex, so lets take it slow" when she's actually having casual sex with other people, she isn't lying. I'm sorry but how is this any different than the tons of guys who have lots of casual sex/one night stands and then later take it slow with a woman they're serious about? It isn't. People have different priorities with different relationships. If a relationship is only about sex to someone, they obviously won…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:32 PM
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Or she just wants a one night stand with them and isn't thinking about anything other than an orgasm that night?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:29 PM
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...and again, women aren't withholding sex. They're deciding, based on their feelings toward the man in question and their goals for the relationship, when they themselves want to have sex or are ready to have sex (or not ready). It isn't like they're sitting around, rubbing their hands together, laughing and saying "I'm going to make this guy wait and suffer!" You can only view a woman as withholding sex if you feel you are deserving of it/entitled to it, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:25 PM
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But, after the "relationship material" guy has waited, once they start having sex, as a guy, it's really off-putting to notice she's very experienced. Again, only if you think her having sex with someone else previously makes her tainted. It isn't deceptive to have different standards and concerns when engaging in relationships with entirely different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:19 PM
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No. It isn't deceptive to want to have sex with someone on a first date and not want to have sex with someone else on a first date. Again, unless you're suggesting her ever having sex with someone on a first date means she's tainted goods. Like seriously, what is the actual issue here? Are you upset because women have sex with some guys on the first date but deny the "reward" of first date sex to "good men" who apparently deserve it more (the topic of the post)? In which case, it would seem your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:18 PM
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Umm... no. It isn't deceptive. Unless you agree with the stigma that a woman who has sex on the first date isn't marriage material? Otherwise what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:05 PM
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Well, honestly, most women who have casual sex on the first night they meet someone aren't the same women who hold off on sex with someone until after multiple dates. These are two different groups. However, of the few that do both, part of it comes out of the social stigma that men attach to women who have sex with someone quickly. A lot of men do not view women who will have sex on a first (or even third or fourth) date as "serious relationship or marriage material." So, if a woman actually re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 01:01 PM
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Nope. Again, you feel this way because you view sex as a reward that someone with "high value" is given. That's not how most women look at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 12:52 PM
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LMAO I can't believe you made me click on a Teal Deer video and tried to use that as a legitimate source against an actual scholarly study. Great now my YouTube recommendations will be filled with alt-right nonsense videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 05:40 AM
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It has already been studied that women are treated better in gaming than men Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 07:16 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that you have to live with this too. It's horrific.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:20 PM
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"Fact." Sure guy. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 04:52 AM
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Thank you, that's very kind of you to say and I appreciate it very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 04:52 AM
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Men also have less access to healthcare so maybe your 'endo' wouldn't have been noticed if you were treated like a man was. The opposite of this is actually correct, to be honest. Women's pain is much more likely to be ignored, not taken seriously, viewed as psychosomatic, and women's pain and health issues are understudied, with the sole exception of breast cancer. My endo went undiagnosed for over a decade, despite me regularly reporting symptoms and getting increasingly worse, and seeing tons…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 01:23 AM
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Ah okay, I see what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 12:39 AM
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.... well, women tend to get cervical, uterine, and ovarian cancer - all of which are more likely to kill you than testicular cancer. So, I'd be giving up the risk of those for the risk of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 12:37 AM
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It's a condition where tissue that is similar to the lining found within a woman's uterus grows in other places within the body. Most commonly, it grows as lesions in the pelvic cavity, on the pelvic walls, on the cervix, uterosacral ligaments, ovaries, bladder, bowels, appendix, and diaphragm... but it technically can end up anywhere. The lesions create their own estrogen and go through cycles, similar to a menstrual cycle. They become inflamed and also inflame the surrounding tissue, cyclicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 12:34 AM
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Not my experience. If it's what allows them to simultaneously have children and a fulfilling career, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 12:28 AM
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Endometriosis isn’t a sex-specific issue though. What? Are you referring to trans men with endo? I don’t think women would have any issues with it being more difficult to get laid, for example. They’d also have to be the ones to initiate and approach. I definitely wouldn't care about this. I already cannot have sex without excruciating pain due to the endo. So, I live without it as a woman now anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 12:27 AM
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There are definitely women out there that are interested in having a husband who would stay home and take care of the house and kids. Before I became disabled, I was in a PhD program and spent time around a ton of very serious, career oriented women who would've been thrilled to have been able to have a family without having to compromise their career goals. That being said, it would certainly be easier to find a partner who worked while you stayed home if you were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:26 AM
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I would have a higher chance of getting the kind of life I want. Which is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:12 AM
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Most of that attention is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:10 AM
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Absolutely. I have severe endometriosis that has basically disabled me. So, yeah, it'd be nice to have never had to deal with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 03:57 AM
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What in the world are you talking about? Jon was the one she wanted most of all. There was no "settling." She wanted him so badly that when he rejected her, she felt it was the last straw, and she literally went insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 09:16 PM
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Obviously, manipulative people are going to be more successful at getting what they want. The entire point is that people who are manipulative are successful because the other person doesn't know at first that they're being manipulative. The guy comes across as nice and charming and honest. It's only later, after he's successfully gotten what he wanted, that the fact he's an asshole or abusive is revealed. I'd add that men preferring women who are "nice" and then describing that as "cooperative,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 07:48 PM
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No, this is absolutely correct. Someone being strong and resilient but intentionally choosing not to bully others (even though they clearly could) is much more attractive than someone who is strong and is a bully at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 07:45 PM
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Listen, I know you were hoping people here would agree with your asinine idea that rape isn't that really that bad, so that you could justify your own rape fantasies but that is just not going to happen. You asked if rape is worse than assault? Most women I know, myself included, would rather be killed than raped. It's completely traumatizing and dehumanizing. So fuck off with your garbage opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 11:22 PM
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Wow. Thinking that a moron who asks "hur dur what's so bad about rape" has something wrong with him does not make me a puritan.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 11:16 PM
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What in the absolute fuck is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 11:11 PM
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I watch shows and read books about serial killers at times. Most of the women I know who do this, like me, do it out of a desire to understand what goes through the minds of killers, how they behave in their daily life, and why/how they target certain individuals. I see it as a protective strategy to learn about these people, in the hopes that I can avoid encountering one in my daily life. I also find the psychology behind the process of profiling and catching killers to be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:08 PM
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Yes. Yes it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:41 AM
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You talk to these people and a lot of the motivation is just finding someone its socially acceptable to despise and attack verbally, etc. Hmm... and here I thought it was the opposite. That "SJWs" were concerned with advocating for a world where groups of people who historically had fewer advantages and less rights, were no longer able to be treated as lesser people, or attacked, verbally or physically without consequence. Seems like the only "group" that the so-called SJWs tend to "attack" (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 06:14 PM
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People are just brushing this off and making jokes because it's obviously ridiculous. The OP hasn't even responded to anyone yet. He's just being obnoxious and trying to rile people up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 05:35 PM
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I just find it to be more sad than anything, honestly. I really do think it comes out of, as you said, their view of sex/relationships as a game or competition. They're trying to "win" by breaking another person down until they get what they want. It shouldn't be that way. It ought to be two people working toward a shared goal. How could that not be more satisfying?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:55 PM
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Because the fact she's into me or not isn't really relevant? Yikes. What I want is all what I should be concerned for. This is what women mean when they say someone is "selfish" in bed. If you are selfish in bed, you are bad in bed. Good sex occurs when each person is focused on finding ways to pleasure their partner, while obtaining pleasure for themselves at the same time. Women (at least the ones I know) tend to assume that men who keep pressuring them to do something they say they do not wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:27 PM
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All of my sexual or semi-sexual encounters always began with "no" and lack of enthusiasm. This is a bad sign. Why would you want to have sex with someone who clearly is not into you? Why would you want to perform certain sexual acts with a partner if you know she doesn't want it? Most of my sexual partners simply changed their mind once they felt comfortable with me. Sometimes women absolutely do change their minds once they feel comfortable with a guy. That's totally fine and actually can be qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:52 AM
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People cannot read your minds and asking your partner if you can do every little thing is not how sex works. Have you ever had a sexual encounter? No one is saying every thrust or touch or kiss needs to be negotiated. But anal is not a "little thing," or part of a typical sexual encounter (outside of porn) and it absolutely needs to be discussed first! This is not that hard. If you're having PIV sex with someone and you want to change up your speed or position, go for it - you're fine to play ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 11:21 AM
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lol, this is ridiculous. Most female jobs outside of HR/PR/teaching/nursing fall under sex appeal. Any sales job fits. Really? Even sales jobs that are primarily performed over the phone or online? What about doctors? You mentioned "nursing," but there are plenty of female doctors as well as nurses. What about women who work as accountants, chefs, editors, lawyers, stock brokers... or pretty much any other non-sales job? If a person gets hired and their skill level is not known, a logical assump…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 01:32 AM
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when the woman is hired for sex appeal. You know, I haven't seen a lot of evidence that women are actually hired specifically for sex appeal (outside of jobs that are explicitly focused on that). I have seen men repeatedly make the assumption that the only reason a woman got a job was because she was attractive and/or sleeping with someone - which is, honestly, incredibly annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 09:19 AM
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Women are more catty, spend less hours at work, take more breaks, can't compartmentalize their home life, need more reassurance Interesting that you say women cannot divorce work from their private lives, when so many men are constantly whining about women who argue that men should remain professional at work, instead of trying to flirt/hit on female co-workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 12:41 PM
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Women have so fucking much privilege today that it's unreal, yet they still can't see it. How exactly does the idea that women and men technically having equality under the law equal women having "so fucking much privilege today"? It simply means that men have lost institutional privilege. That is why women in the US tend to focus on cultural issues that they still feel are prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 12:36 PM
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First, she did use this case as a form of performance art. True. That being said, her claim has always been that she was attempting to channel her feelings over what had happened into her art, and as a consequence, be able to gain strength, make a statement, and hopefully have something positive develop out of an experience that, prior to that, was profoundly negative for her. Now, people can choose to believe her or choose not to believe her. Personally, I think it's entirely possible that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 10:32 PM
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Motives for crimes are examined all the time. If a wife is murdered than the husband is a prime suspect, unless he is cleared from the possibility of committing the murder. No one assumes that being someone's husband has nothing to do with wanting to murder them. Your acting like this is never done. Sure, and I do not think that questioning someone's motivations is wrong. However, I also do not see the connection you're trying to make between someone being willing to engage in performance art, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 09:46 PM
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First of all, that article was not an op ed. It was an investigative piece from the NY/regional desk. Second, the section you pulled out does not demonstrate bias on the part of the author because it is not representative of the author's opinion. That is the point of view of the accusers as clearly demonstrated by the fact it beings with "To Mr. Nungesser's accusers..." In other sections of the article, Nungesser's point of view is also presented. Finally - you're assuming bias on my part when a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:47 PM
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Okay The only reason he was not expelled after that ruling, is that he was allowed an appeal (which he took, obviously) and his accuser, during the prolonged appeal process, decided she did not want to go through the process all over again and refused to continue proceedings. I need to correct this statement. Apparently Columbia wasn't even originally going to expel him but merely put him on probation, even after he was found responsible. This was, of course, back before sexual assaults at unive…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 08:07 PM
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They settled the lawsuit because it was less expensive than continuing to drag the proceedings out in court. I would like to point out to you that this was the third time he and his family filed this lawsuit. The first two times it was dismissed by a judge for having no merit. Again - on the third attempt, the University decided it was not worth their time, legal expenses, and the negative media attention this was garnering, to continue to battle them in court. Additionally, this was not a lawsu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:50 PM
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I was actually attending Columbia as a graduate student when this happened. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I recommend you just delete this entire post. You're making yourself look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 07:20 PM
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it's about childless women. The article is related It's not though. Childless does not mean single - especially considering that the number of college educated women (even those in relationships) that are choosing not to have children has increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:58 AM
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Telling someone what to do is a behavior they have with children, and as a consequence they are unable to have it with mates. This actually is pretty insightful. You want to think of your SO as a partner. Partners do try to anticipate each other's needs, as well as your shared needs, and act upon them accordingly, rather than waiting for direction. And no one finds it attractive to feel like they have to act like someone's mother all of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:19 AM
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Also, I think women put a lot of thought into anticipating men's needs and might be shocked they don't. Yes. I think this is where a lot of the frustration comes from. We are socialized to view this anticipation of needs as an expression of love, so when men do not anticipate our needs in return it can appear as though they do not care. In reality, they likely were not brought up to think this way the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:15 AM
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because she couldn't comprehend how unrealistic it is I think the problem here is that a lot of women do not believe this is entirely unrealistic - probably because anticipating the needs of the people you love and trying to proactively do things (including things you do not like) to make them feel good without their having to ask is something a lot of women actually are socialized to do. So, if you are a woman who spends a lot of time thinking about your SO's wants and needs and trying to pleas…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 03:07 AM
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Well, I tried to summarize in the rest of my comment but here's a few more specifics of a couple incidents if you prefer: 1) A co-worker, who was well aware that I was in a long term relationship, and who I had never flirted with or expressed sexual interest toward, began randomly stopping by at unexpected times to talk. That was fine - we were about the same age, and I knew he was married, so I saw this as normal and friendly. A couple of weeks later, I was informed by a couple of friends who I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:41 PM
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has used it to shame guys who aren't attractive and/or try to bat outside their league There's only a few guys who I've ever been so creeped out by that I've referred to them as a "creep," or "creepy." Every time I have used those terms, it's been after the incident, in discussions with close friends or my SO (not in public) and even that only happened because I was still pretty freaked out about it afterward. The times when this has happened, it has always exclusively been because the guy was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:34 PM
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No one here has a problem with men wanting to avoid selfish and manipulative women. The issue we have is with this: If you can't see why men would want to learn about women's unconscious drives and motives The idea that all women have the "unconscious drives and motives" that TRP claims is the issue. They do not. That is evolutionary psychology nonsense. Women do not want a man who will so willingly believe such ridiculous ideas about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 07:05 PM
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Most women don't say it to the man's face, they say it about him behind his back after he's gone. Where, other than high school, is this sort of gossiping happening between people who the guy would actually know well enough for it to impact him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:02 AM
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to girls it's whenever a guy gives her a funny vibe I do not see why this doesn't make sense though? The feeling provoked in the observer is an important component in the definition of the term. A "creep" is just a person who is, through his actions, "creepy." A guy who is "creepy" is no different than a house, story, etc. that is "creepy". It's someone or something that produces a feeling called "the creeps" in someone else. As in "that guy gives me the creeps." "The creeps" as a phrase, was co…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:43 AM
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I don't have a problem with someone relying on his mother, theoretically. I'm trying to explain why such a person would seem less desirable to a woman looking for a partner, than a man who is financially independent. The person I'm responding to was claiming women seek a guy's "status" and wealth - and as such, it's fair to think of women as being a commodity that can be bought and sold. I'm trying to counter that by offering an alternative explanation for why anyone would be happier with, and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 03:31 AM
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Look, if women seek status from men, then they can be bough and sold or exchanged lol That doesn't make any sense. First - most women don't "seek status" from men. Your premise is flawed. Many women prefer dating a man who is financially stable because dating a guy who is completely dependent upon you is no more enjoyable than dating a woman that is. Haven't you ever known a lazy guy who sits around all day doing nothing but smoking, drinking, and gaming, who doesn't have a job and isn't in scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:21 AM
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The 25k analogy was about inconveniencing people with asking you for it as much as it was about harassing people for it. No, it wasn't. Chappelle was pretty clearly talking about feeling unsafe and threatened. These women are complaining about "misconduct" as in they never want to feel unsafe or inconvenienced for having a pussy. That's like a rich dude complaining about a salesman or a stockbroker calling him to sell him something. Yes. We shouldn't have to ever feel unsafe just for being born …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 10:45 PM
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I don't expect people to feel sorry for me that the destitute pester me and I don't feel bad that women get attention from low-status, unattractive men. Except the "low-status unattractive men," are not the only ones pestering women for sex. And going further, the actually destitute (when it comes to money) may need money so that they can literally survive. No one needs sex enough to justify harassment - especially when there are plenty of other options (like improving yourself to become more at…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 09:47 PM
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Can. Not that they all do Please, provide data that this is common at all. Always, no. Common, yes. You are currently speaking to someone who has suffered from Major Depressive Disorder (diagnosed) for fifteen years. The majority of people with this disorder do not end up killing themselves or dying from it, though it obviously can have a substantial impact upon one's life. I also, as someone who actually has this disorder, which is the result of chemical imbalances and an inability of the brain…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 09:08 PM
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The small amount of inconvenience they have to deal with "Ewww that guy without a six pack tried to talk to me!" is really not relevant considering the amount of benefit they receive from it. Since you're such a fan of data - please provide statistics that back up your assertion that average looking women regularly make tens of thousands of dollars a month playing video games. Then provide evidence to back up your claim that when women complain about harassment they're complaining about guys wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:40 PM
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But it is hard to have sympathy for someone who has too much than someone who has not enough. Except the thing women have "too much" of, sexual attention, is not always a good thing to have. And it's hard to feel sympathy for someone who blames others for the fact that he has absolutely none - particularly if the thing is not something necessary for survival (which, despite TRP theories - sex is not). I'm reminded of an article in the New York Times about how hard people making six figures on in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:22 PM
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You're saying you have no sympathy for the person who, in this analogy, has 25K, and is being threatened by people who want to steal it. That he/she should just be happy that they have 25K, and the people who want to steal it are the ones deserving of sympathy. That's ridiculous. They are not "entitled" to my 25K just because they want it and don't have any. Just as they wouldn't be entitled to someone else's nice car, watch, jewelry, or body, just because they want it. I however, am entitled to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:54 PM
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Sorry, no sympathy for them for that. So, you have sympathy for a thief but not the person that the thief stole from? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 07:42 PM
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Anyway, OP asked about dominance, and all these guys have a good measure of it. They're all aristocrats, to begin with. I suppose but they're generally being compared to other aristocrats in the books, and portrayed as less dominant than other men of their class due to their general demeanor and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:13 AM
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Jane Austen (Pride & Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility) have male characters which are either outsider bad-boys, or high status/rich men. They're rich yes - but that doesn't make them "alpha" according to TRP. If anything, they're the epitome of beta - wealthy men who are considered a "catch" because of their wealth, even if they themselves are not considered overly attractive or charming. Darcy in Pride and Prejudice is the perfect example of this, as he's socially awkward, stern, and most peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:33 AM
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Well, I'm not sure about erotica. However, novels and literature with a "romantic" angle, in my opinion, pretty regularly depict the main female character falling in love with a man who wouldn't fit the "alpha" stereotype. Just a couple off the top of my head (besides Gone With the Wind, which was already mentioned) include: pretty much any Jane Austen novel, Great Expectations (really, thinking about it, a lot of Dickens could fit here too), and Love in the Time of Cholera. Oh and speaking of J…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 11:08 PM
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It's because I'm not attracted to "men" in the abstract. I can recognize that a guy I see in public, on television, or in pictures online, has physical attributes that most people would consider attractive - in the same way I can with women. However, I do not begin to feel sexual attraction to anyone based on those physical features alone. Something else has to happen and/or be present to switch from a kind of passive aesthetic recognition that someone has "good looks" to an active feeling of de…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 10:15 PM
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Of course most of us know you're only doing it for attractive guys, or even just a specific guy So, I think there may be some confusion here. I am trying to say I may put "extra effort" in when there is one special guy who is going to be present. This could include wearing a dress I reserve for special occasions, or spending extra time on my hair, or making certain I bring some lipstick and powder in my bag and touch myself up regularly throughout the night. That being said, my appearance is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 12:51 AM
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If I took their indifference at their word, I'd have to think they aren't really that attracted to men at all. they were told that women aren't that different from men. Which in this case I think is more true than not Well, I do think there are some pretty important differences. In my opinion, it's not that women are simply not that attracted to men at all - we are just rarely attracted to "men" in the abstract, or focused on appealing to "men" as a general category of people, in the same way a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/18 08:52 PM
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Agree to disagree. She's an alpha widow and that's what the song's about. You're interpretation is wildly off base. /u/SpaceWhiskey is spot on. You can read the novel if you'd like further confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 08:34 PM
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women feel entitled to niceness in that situation, that's why they bitch so much about it. Honestly, I think you're missing a step. Women want privacy, not niceness. That's why we get angry when this happens - we do not think the situation should be occurring at all. Men shouldn't message strange women sexually propositioning them. It's creepy, gross, and rude. It's also far more entitled than anything women are doing in this situation. It suggests the men feel entitled to attention, particularl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:19 PM
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There are so many flaws with this comment it's difficult to know where to begin! Okay I suppose I'll start with your first couple of questions. Why do you think i don't know about politics? Why do you assume foreigners aren't interested in us politics, I do not assume that foreigners are uninterested in US politics. I am well aware that many foreigners are extremely concerned about the choices made by the US and I think that's a legitimate reason for them to want to discuss US policy. However, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 07:10 PM
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Lmao. I'm well aware you were trying to say Hillary was an "epileptic childmolester." My comment was intended to make fun of how ridiculous it is that you would call Hillary a child-molester because of Alex Jones conspiracy theories, and use that as an excuse not to vote for her, when Trump literally molested a 13 year old girl. You'd rather have a racist than a child-molester... so you voted for a racist child-molester (and admitted rapist, by the way). Great thinking! Edit: Wow, you're not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 08:49 AM
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racist old white man than a epileptic childmolester So... you'd rather have Trump than... an epileptic version of Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:29 AM
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If they want the women to like them - which they ostensibly do if they are messaging them to begin with - it's ridiculous and counterproductive not to be nice. Once they've been rejected, they can be as rude and vile as they want. No one's saying they owe women anything - simply that their childish reaction proves they're pathetic and not actually "nice" people at all, and that they are far, far worse than a woman who decides not to be "nice" to some random stranger who messages her seeking out …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:20 AM
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duped How are they being duped? They build up fantasies in their heads and then become enraged when it turns out their feelings are not, and were never, reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:15 AM
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Women on /r/niceguys bitch about guys not being nice to them. Seems like they're equally bad. Neither one owes being nice to the other, but both feel entitled to it Women on /r/niceguys get understandably upset because guys message them out of nowhere, expecting attention, flirting, nudes, and even sex, and then turn into total dicks when they don't get what they want. How exactly should those women react?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 02:13 AM
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Maybe if he literally said "I DID ALL THE STEPS, WHERE ARE MY WOMENN?? REEE" he can be called entitled. I think a lot of the concern with "entitlement" comes from what a number of these guys were like even before they encountered TRP. From what I've seen, a lot of them start off as the stereotypical "nice guy," who feels entitled to sex, a relationship, or at least the attention of women, simply for acting friendly (or worse). They only turn to TRP out of frustration and resentment, when women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 12:50 AM
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They do not date anyone. That's why they have such delusional ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 11:30 PM
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I don't know why you're so desperate to believe that you know what the women are actually feeling when you haven't even seen these pornographic videos. I'm not "desperate" to believe anything. I know it to be the case. First of all, I have seen the type of video you are describing. Many times. Secondarily, as I've already told you, I have colleagues who specifically research female sexuality/sexual practices and the various ways women participate in pornographic activities. Personally, I wish it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 12:06 AM
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It's truly amazing. It honestly makes me think they must have no sexual experience at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 11:53 PM
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They still get pleasure from it Lol no. No they don't. I seriously don't know why you are so desperate to believe that women are actually enjoying themselves in these pornographic videos. Oh, and I see you're ignoring what I told you about the difference between "squirting" in porn and the actual fluids women produce when they orgasm. But okay, if you're just talking about a little fluid that appears on a toy after a woman has been using it - we women produce lubricant naturally. That does not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:14 PM
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What I said was "besides hitting the cervix." As in - everyone already knows that length can be a problem. You seem to be implying that women actually do want a "large" guy - but large in terms of girth, not length, and that this is where men become confused. However, there are other problems with size that go beyond length. Girth can also be bad. Here is how..." followed by my explanation. Not hard to understand at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 05:22 AM
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As an adult, with both an education, and years of life experience, I am capable of understanding the meaning of "girth," both as a general concept, and one specifically used in reference to male genitalia. Also, if you read my responses, it is obvious that I was referring to both length (in relation to the cervix) and girth (in relation to tearing and bleeding) and how too much of either can cause women pain. You are acting as though you do not understand what I was trying to say, despite the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 05:05 AM
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I think I've seen enough porn to tell the difference... Lol. No, you clearly have not. Again, almost all "homemade" pornography is not actually that. But even if I was to agree to put that aside and concede that some of what you've seen online was posted by women or by vengeful ex-boyfriends, any actual "amateur" porn you find online would still have been made by a woman for the purpose of turning on a man - not for the purpose of pleasuring herself. Yes, and neither is the squirting or the flui…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:37 AM
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Yes. I am an adult. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 04:19 AM
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Do you know what girth is? not only from the cervix being hit. Sometimes you can tear and even bleed. Do you understand I am explaining that the cervix being hit is not the only issue? That girth can cause tearing and bleeding of the vulva and vaginal walls?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 02:46 AM
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That being said, a lot of the girls I'm talking to are anywhere from their early teens, to mid-20's Lets just say out of high school for an "adult". Also, I'm speaking about numbers here. How many have you spoken to who have told you they prefer larger? In what context did you speak to them? How well did you know them? I'm asking because I have a feeling a lot of your conclusions come exclusively from watching porn, which is not real. Even the "homemade" pornography you are referring to througho…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:55 AM
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I wouldn't take that as scripture. That's more like a ballpark estimate. Better thought of for a guideline than actually taken literally, and doesn't not accurately reflect the actual. Yes. An estimate. Which is what an average is - an estimate based upon the data we have available. You can never know the exact amount/number of something like this. You can only find averages which allow you to draw conclusions that are more accurate than the ones you'd gather simply by making assumptions based o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 12:18 AM
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If anything, those averages only represent the average of the women they surveyed, so I wouldn't immediately start using averages to standardize an entire population of people. Of course but that is how any average is taken. That's what an average means - that the majority of people within the group likely either fall within the average or slightly outside of it. This is how we form conclusions about pretty much anything that involves numbers. Do you also not believe that the average height for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:26 PM
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Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 10:58 PM
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"Averages" don't closely reflect the actual average What do you mean by this? Those are the actual average depths of a woman's vaginal cavity when aroused and when not aroused. Forget what people are saying. Focus on what they're doing How can you focus on what women are "doing" in regards to the penis size they prefer, beyond asking them to explain what they like? Are you just assuming women are lying when they say they prefer the average and that they're secretly going out and searching for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:41 PM
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Yes... none of those women are actually enjoying themselves, you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 06:42 PM
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They accept that the women will be in pain. Not sure what you're confused about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 06:35 PM
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Not everyone is the same size I know - but we're talking about averages, based upon anatomical studies. and I believe that the demand for larger than average is rising. My own experience, based on having many conversations about this with other women, and seeing this brought up in numerous threads on reddit, tells me that the majority of women who are willing to discuss this topic, still prefer average sized guys. Perhaps some women, like your friend, are becoming conditioned to assume bigger is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 05:04 PM
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that has to be a novelty item, right? It has to be... I feel like this could actually kill me!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:53 PM
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It took work, sufficient arousal, going slow, the use of lube and such, but most importantly, relaxation of the muscles. Sure, and I've definitely done all of those things, and they greatly lessened the pain. That being said, some pain, or at least discomfort, was still there (and the guy was not insanely huge, just a couple inches above average)... whereas it has never been painful or even uncomfortable with the average sized guy. That being said, there's certainly a possibility that I am a lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:44 PM
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Perhaps you could explain? As someone who literally spent a decade trying to find solutions to this exact problem, I'd honestly be curious to hear if you know of something that actually allows the woman to feel pleasure and no pain (while still being penetrated) when the man is too big for her. I'm not sure if you fully understand what happens within a woman's body during sex or what the vagina is/is not capable of doing without pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:17 PM
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It's because that thing can push a baby out lol. ...which is one of the most painful things a person can experience. When a woman is in labor, the cervix lifts way up into the uterus, dilates, and completely opens up. When just having sex, that's not going to happen. And if somehow someone rammed their dick into you so hard that it tore your cervix or pushed it up into your uterus, you'd be dealing with a medical emergency. So, I guess technically that would be "making it work" so that he could …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:08 PM
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Actually, I'm not only talking about all the way in. The partner in question was literally never able to go all the way in - even at the beginning when we weren't actively trying to find ways to make it less painful for me - he physically could not do that. It just wasn't possible. Even later on, when he was actively trying to go less deep, it still didn't work, because the girth was also a problem, which resulted in discomfort for me. Even when it wasn't painful it wasn't fully pleasurable eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:45 PM
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It hurts because you're with a big dicked man who has no dick control Nope. This was a long term partner that was very concerned with trying to ensure I felt pleasure and as little pain as possible. We tried many, many different things. Our bodies just fundamentally did not work together. The thing is, most people are aware that a woman's vaginal cavity expands/elongates when aroused. However, for most women it really only elongates from about 3 inches to 5 or maybe six. So, even when you're com…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:34 PM
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Every woman i know thats had big dick prefers it. Its more of a turn on and can hit the spots needed Nope. It hurts. In my experience, the right spots are not being properly stimulated. Feels more like they're being squished or even torn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 12:53 PM
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As I have a theory of if you take the average woman and have her with sexi with a guy with slightly larger girth than average and she be "hooked". Nope. It's painful - and not only from the cervix being hit. Sometimes you can tear and even bleed. It's hard to feel good under those circumstances, whereas with a guy who is closer to average, in both length and girth, it just fits better. You feel like you're... full... with all the right spots being stimulated, not like you're being ripped apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 12:52 PM
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I would be curious to know how many of the people posting that this idea is an "illusion," have actual experience transitioning from friendship to a romantic/sexual relationship? I have been through this change (which can be confusing and intense) myself, so I find it strange so many people seem to think it's not possible. TLDR; I experienced the "natural" progression from close friendship to relationship. It is, indeed, both possible and ideal. However, this is rare and you cannot manufacture i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 08:51 PM
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It is "strange", but is it a moral failure? I do not necessarily think it's a moral failure. You could just decide that's how you want to be toward someone forever, and act that way... if so then you're pretty much changing who you are and becoming the person you were pretending to be. That is you now. And people do choose to change for someone they care about. It's not automatically wrong. In my opinion, it only becomes a problem under certain circumstances. So, if you were to ask a friend out,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:54 PM
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Well, I suppose it depends upon the level of dishonesty. Most people would probably agree that when we first start dating someone, we all try to be very nice to them, look our absolute best, etc. because you are both trying to attract the other person and/or ensure they have fun spending time with you, so that they'll want to spend more time with you in the future. However, you're also both aware that if you actually end up in a more serious relationship, eventually you'll see one another at you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:46 PM
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Many guys will act like this for girls they ask out the "normal" way, though You mean after the guy has asked her out, and she has agreed? If so, I don't disagree with you. However, in that instance, she is aware he's trying to impress her. She's likely trying to impress him as well. They both know the other person's goal. In the "friend" situation, she assumes you're being yourself. She is being herself because she's not trying to impress you. One of you is acting, the other assumes you're both…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:30 PM
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Right, but as u/says_harsh_things mentioned, that advice is given under the assumption that you have no intention other than getting to know her when you first meet. the common BP response recommends being open about your intentions early because it is honest because a lot of men are interested off the bat Yes, but this advice is assuming you've already become casual acquaintances, having run into each other a few times in your larger social circle or in groups. Not the first day you meet. The i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:16 PM
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Honestly... while I'd consider myself more of a "blue piller" and I have a lot of disagreements with red pillers, I think he's pretty close to spot on here. The difference being I would not say your "intention" being to have sex immediately would be perceived as just "desperate," and therefore unattractive, and more that it would be perceived as discomforting and not really about her as much as your desire to get laid. If two people have just met and the guy immediately starts coming on strong, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 09:35 PM
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