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I don't really care about female anatomy, "fewer eggs" is just a phrase, meaning more fertile. Fertility equals attractiveness, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:07 AM
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Yeah we do. It's called our eyes. You don't look the same at 50 and 20, sorry to say. Even with makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 10:05 AM
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The older the woman, the fewer eggs she has, the less hot she seems to men. It's just nature, even men who don't want to procreate are unconsciously attracted to younger women. A 40 year old woman can be hot, but it's rare. A 50 year old hot woman is extremely rare. The same applies to men, although to a slightly lesser extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 06:09 PM
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First off, women are privileged in the dating market in the west, so no, not equality. Second, under the current western dating market, women value looks above all instead of status for example. Status can be earned, looks are much harder to. Therefore, it makes sensecto move to a place where status is preferred by women over looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:23 PM
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Strange then how life expectancy is higher in higher population density areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:20 PM
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I would expect gay men to use Grindr. But even with 80-20 the math doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:18 PM
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How many houses have you built?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:17 PM
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The ratio is smaller. There is an abundance of male candidates, so hiring managers can choose better candidates. With women, there is no abundance. If you want to make your team more diverse, you need to make compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:04 PM
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I had two female colleagues at my previous workplace, one was extremely talented, probably more so than me, but the other was definitely the affirmative action candidate. She didn't get what we were doing after a whole year. Women can be as good as men, and I'd say those who are good are probably better than most men, but there are definitely some women who just get hired to fill a quota.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 08:54 AM
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Where did the programmer hurt you? You seem to have an awful lot of bias against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 03:58 PM
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Legit, I changed my preference to both men and women on Tinder, and had 100+ right swipes in an hour. With women, it's at most 1 per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 03:57 PM
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I'd love to change myself, but I can't even leave the house after 8pm and gyms are closed, so. Pertty stupid if you ask me, gyms are probably the safest places from covid according to research, despite what common sense would tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:47 PM
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The reason why getting out of inceldom with a low smv woman is not a good idea is as follows: Almost no woman on the face of the world are low SMV because women have inherent SMV by virtue of their vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:18 PM
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Most of the time, these convos are about putting words into incels mouths. If an incel tells you he worked on himself for years, approached hundreds of women, and gave up at 28, then you'll have your gotcha moment, and tell him that he just gave up, and reinforce your generalizations. You see that he gave up, you don't see that he gave up after he tried for over a decade, and it was bad for his mental health too. Women just can't fathom that men have to put in actual effort into dating, let alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 11:54 AM
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What generalization, that we don't put in the work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 11:41 AM
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You said generalization could be made about incels. Why can you make this generalization? Because you read some cherrypicked quotes on IncelTears?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 11:03 AM
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Oh you had conversations with incels over the internet? I am sorry, I didn't know. This qualifies you as a PhD of Inceldom so you're an expert of this subject now, and know about the circumstances of every incel. I just love it when women say "women are not a monolith" and then start saying generalizations about incels. Huge self-awareness. By your logic by the way, those incels who don't put in the effort, do not deserve love, at least that's what you're saying. So you're also ranking people on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:55 AM
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It's not about deserving or not, it's about answering this common misconception that incels don't put in the work. The conversation usually goes like X: Incels are just whiners who don't want to work, but expect things to be handed to them Incel: I actually put in the work, more than my peers, but it doesn't work out for me X: Well, you're not entitled to a woman just because you put in the work! Yeah, we know, but that is not the point we respond to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:44 AM
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Well "working together" has totally ruined my life for some time to give 2 more years to people who would throw me under the bus without a second thought if it fit their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:12 AM
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So what? People die all the time, if someone is in a risk category, they should quarantine themselves, not make life impossible for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:29 PM
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I was finally making gains, and covidiots closed down all the gyms. It's just so absurd, people are freaking out over something that has no symptoms for 90% of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:13 PM
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Life's primary purpose is based on our genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:49 PM
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I'm 26 years old, I own a fully renovated apartment, I have an old car, I used to work out a lot before covidiots closed down all the gyms here. I really took extra steps to looksmax, and I still have close to zero chances. Most people are not incels though, and I don't think Eastern Europe is very different from the West. Especially not the larger, more liberal cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:47 PM
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I don't know about Western Europe, but I live in Eastern Europe and if what incels say wouldn't be true, I wouldn't be saying it. My entire life has been about working harder than anyone around me, and despite what women tend to say on Reddit, no one really cares about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:35 PM
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Don't get me wrong, this entire thread is 99% low effort comments. But to be honest, I think you keep repeating yourself in your comments. It may seem like that to me because I don't agree with much of what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:07 PM
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That's what MRA, RedPill or incel forums are, but they're demonized by the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:01 PM
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I read it, it's low effort, even from Copperstoner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:56 PM
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Men and incels usually work way harder than women. I don't see how anyone in their right mind would say they want things handed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:52 PM
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Good for women, because they get more privileges, bad for men because they are in an even worse situation, except for maybe 1%. No self-respecting male should be a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:49 PM
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Just a question, how did you convonce yourself you're the oppressed one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 07:22 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 02:19 PM
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Whatever the motivation, fact is, women are now much more privileged than men. I would also say that not having to burden yourself with work is a sort of privilege also.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 12:34 PM
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Are YOU serious? How much charisma do you think he has? https://youtu.be/8jrqpn60d4A Look at the comments of women fawning over him and tell me with a straight face it was his charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 11:45 AM
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Women never wanted equality, they just wanted more privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 08:37 AM
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And even if a good looking guy acts cringe, it doesn't influence his chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 07:06 AM
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I don't have a favorite youtuber. Link me a video of a good-looking guy acting cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:58 AM
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Yeah, why is it that guys who look like Brad Pitt are never "cringe"? I also watched it further, what happened to him is called puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 06:53 AM
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Lmao, so you think the issue is Flynn's personality? Why do you think he's such a degenerate weirdo? Because no woman would touch him because of how he looks. That's why he's very probably a virgin at 19,that's why he's so ackward. Not because he has some personality flaw or whatever. Personality is just the result of how the world treats you. And how the world treats you is 90% based on looks. Edit: this retard actually makes a comparison to a movie around 17 minutes in. It's a fucking movie du…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 09:42 PM
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I was a total simp in high school too, mostly because of my upbringing - single mother, and my dad was never really talkative about sexuality with me. I guess because he was also an ugly guy, especially in his 20s. So I think this is mostly because this guy's parents were stuck in the 50s, telling their son to treat women with respect. It's also, like someone once said, some parents try to teach morality to their children above all, which is absolute nonsense. Morality cannot be taught, it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:16 PM
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Even in India, men are more likely to commit suicide than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 12:47 AM
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So these guys come to you for advice on how to get girls? Not trying to attack you, just seems wuite unplausable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 01:01 AM
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Where have you gotten to know these incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 11:26 PM
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Yeah, but can you just simply decide not to care about something so basic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 11:34 PM
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Abundance mindset is great and all if you have actual abundance. If you don't, then it's just plain delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 11:06 PM
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women say something you believe them This is your fallacy, right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:49 PM
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Behaviour only matters when you get past the initial looks threshold. Incels are better off looksmaxxing than reading about how to pull women. You know learning how to walk before running a marathon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:43 PM
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'Go to the gym' is not terrible advice. Or looking at other looksmaxing methods either. But 'listen to what women want', 'just be more confident' and 'go to therapy' are the most frequently parroted ones. And they are horribly wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:12 PM
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Okay, so the way I see it, how women respond to you when you ask them what they want is like when you ask a food addict what they want for lunch. They will tell you they just want to get a nice healthy meal, but when given the choice between steamed veggies with chicken breast and a double quarter pounder with extra fries, they will go for the second option. And this is someone who knows this is bad for them, but still does it. Same way, women tell you they want to be with someone who listens to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 06:05 PM
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I mean, you are probably more forgiving to your kid when he has a multiple month long bout of severe depression. And I didn't live with her, just visited, so that helped probably. If I told her the thing every day, she would probably have been more tired of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:51 PM
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It's always funny when women try to be witty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:25 PM
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You really thought you did something there 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:23 PM
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I once explained my thoughts to my mom when I was in my lowest low of depression. She of course recited the entire bluepill bible. Didn't disown me though. I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:17 PM
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One of the issues with most incels is that they have above average empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:53 PM
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You have to separate sexual attraction and brain functions in women. When women say they want a nice respectful man, they are telling the truth, at that moment, they want that. But when it comes to sexual attraction, they don't think with their brains, their vaginas want the 10/10 Chad who will pump and dump them and not care about them afterwards. Then they will tell us how all men are trash. I think one of the best phrases to come out of RP was hamstering. It's so descriptive of women when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 10:46 AM
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What's the problem with misogyny? It's an absolutely normal reaction for incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 10:43 AM
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Because sexual success almost exclusively depends on external factors, while the things you listed are results of our work. I have a fully renovated apartment in the inner city, a middle-aged but nice car, and liquid assets of almost a quarter of the value of the apartment. If I lost all these, I could start over again tomorrow. It wouldn't be easy, but I built this myself, and I could do it again. Sexual success on the other hand is something that no matter how much effort I put into, I will al…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:45 PM
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So you think I should apply to art school? There's a good one next to me in Vienna.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:39 AM
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Wrong. I literally don't care if they have sex or not. I do care when they act like sex isn't a big deal and then take huge risks in order to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 12:59 AM
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That would be true, if ugly women were like incels, but they aren't. They might get less attention, but they are infinitely more valuable on the SMP than ugly males. Most women aren't stacies and they can easily get sex. But most unattractive men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:03 PM
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What is Chad value? What is so valuable about being born with good proportions on your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 05:52 PM
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying too. Women think incels are just whiners, but they couldn't do a day being an ugly male, they'd probably suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 05:44 PM
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Relationships aren't that important either according to people who 'advise' incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 05:40 PM
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But if you have such issues, and it causes so many problems, why go through all the fuss just to have sex? I thought it isn't so important, at least that's what women tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 05:38 PM
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Okay, wait a second. The fetus is alive. It's not a person yet, but almost every scientist agrees that it's alive. So you can't draw the line there. If you draw the line with being a person, then where do you consider the baby a person? At the age of 1, they usually don't have a self image. Does that mean, you can also kill them at that age too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:53 PM
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So it's okay to kill your own pets too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:50 PM
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It also involves killing a fetus. Yeah, it's not illegal, but we can't draw morals from law.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 01:27 PM
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That's like saying drunk driving isn't a problem because you never had an issue drinking a few beers. It might be safe 99.99% of the time, and you gain some comfort, but is it worth it if 0.01% of the time it results in a death?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:32 PM
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I thought you could live a full life without sex or relationships? Or did the kind strangerinos of IncelTears lie to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:26 PM
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Yeah, and I say it's funny how women risk so much to get it, but then say it doesn't matter that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:22 PM
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Yeah, funny how women don't usually experience orgasm, and PIV sex is not that great for them, but at the same time, millions of fetuses get aborted each year. Could it be that they're... lying? Noooo can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:12 AM
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Wow, you get the 'entitled' argument right out of the box. But notice how I didn't use it, because 'being entitled to sex' and 'sex is a basic need' are two different arguments. And as you can notice, I argued for the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:10 AM
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I don't think it's a revenge fantasy, Roe v Wade won't be overturned. The tears on female subs are a nice touch, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:53 PM
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I don't know. I just find it hypocrisy funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:07 PM
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By the same thinking you shouldn't care about rape, unless it impacts you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:01 PM
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Women on TwoX are currently having a cryfest because they think they won't be able to kill their babies now - they will be able to for a long, long time, but that's another subject. I just noticed a funny comment. I am on two immune suppressant drugs, including one form of chemotherapy, that would severely impact a fetus if I were to become pregnant right now. We take every precaution, but even my catholic-raised fiancé has agreed that we would abort if an accident were to happen. I likely could…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:48 PM
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There was an ED at one of my previous workplaces who was extremely short. Like 1m60cm. He was really nice in person, but you knew something was going to happen if he called you in his office. And you needed to watch every single sentence you said, because you could never know what he really was curious about. Short guys can compensate for it. It's not an ideal situation, but he really made the best of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 03:25 PM
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Thing is, you forgot looks. You can have a great career, hygiene, desire to have a stable family, and still be single because of your looks if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 11:04 PM
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Just because George Clooney looks good, doesn't mean men in their 50s look good. 90% of men - and women - in their 50s look awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 11:01 PM
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30% was just from memory, there was a WaPo graph that I remembered: https://fabiusmaximus.com/2019/03/31/less-sex-for-young-men-makes-new-world/amp/ Why do you think the trend didn't change? It exploded around the date Tinder came out. You can say that it also coincided with the Great Recession, but there is no way of determining which one is the cause from this data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:40 PM
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Why does that contradict the incel narrative? I would expect to see the most promisculous from both sexes to get more sex. The issue is, the bottom 30% of men doesn't get any, while the bottom 30% of women get plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:44 PM
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I disagree with their conclusions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:50 AM
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Variance is really important. https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim I love this article, because even though it says incels are wrong, it validates a lot of our points. 50-60% of sex is concentrated in the hands of 20% of men. On average, men might have more sex, but averages with such a skewed distribution are very illusive. The bottom is zero, and the top is very open-ended, it can be a large amount of women. Just like with income, this is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:47 AM
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Sure, just hit me up anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:05 AM
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It's just generally extremely hard for a below average man to date, and it's strarting to be really hard for even average men. Until we say that men have a huge issue in dating, and women don't, we are not getting closer to the solution. And the issue is not mental. Most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:02 AM
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It's purge week, after all. If you actually want to talk seriously about something, I'm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:58 AM
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Nah, I've had multiple great conversations with non-incels. Just not with trolls like you. And no, the 'feeling sorry for you' concern trolling isn't working either, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:49 AM
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Your flair is incel slayer, and you're telling me you don't care. Riiiight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:45 AM
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Accept that incels exist, because you will have to get used to it. It's, easier that fuming over what people say on the internet, I promise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:40 AM
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Is that the only insult you can come up with? You call yourself incel slayer, lurk on incel boards all the time, and you still think this is insulting to us? Try harder, retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:35 AM
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I only call people what they are. Retard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:26 AM
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I don't, I think he had mental problems. But does this mean all or most incels have mental problems too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:22 AM
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I guess that's a pretty good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:13 AM
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You really thought you did something there, fatty
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:45 AM
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This is the correct sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:42 AM
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I'm sorry about your friends. That being said, it seems to me that at 18, you just started trying, and then it just happened to you. Like for most normal people. On the other hand, we get accused of not trying enough, when we have been for a long long time, we're just tired of it. I don't want to get shot down a 100th time, I don't want to feel shit about myself. Redpill only works for attractive people, so you are probably attractive, there is no other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:24 AM
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Yeah, sure. You saw one ugly guy and extrapolated. You didn't see all the ugly guys who hanged themselves a week before. How old are you just out of curiousity? When did you 'get wiser' and suddenly become attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:13 AM
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Kinda, but the point is, nothing else besides looksmaxing matters. Most incels could look better if they actually took the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:08 AM
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Then they're retarded. And they actually have the audacity to talk about incels being whiners. Imagine living life on tutorial mode, and still finding something to be offended by.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:41 AM
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You're coping too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:35 AM
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You know someone is insecure when she gets offended by incels of all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:30 AM
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Yeah, if you can't leave something, you have no power in it. Jobs, relationships. Whatever. The blackpill didn't ruin my - dating - life. I was already unsuccessful with dating for almost a decade when I heard about it. I don't know why people tend to think that the blackpill has any effect. If anything, it inspired me to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:02 AM
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It's not like I don't like dating, more like I can't get a date. When I was on a date, I think 3 years ago last time, it was great, and it went on to become a pretty shitty relationship, but I think I'm mostly adept socialy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:42 PM
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It's blackpill terminology, usually banned from this sub, comes from female humanoid, shortened to femoid and then foid. You can guess that it's a derogatory term for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:37 PM
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I think it's more like 'I have the power to leave you at any time and find someone else' power than 'I have the power to suckerpunch you if you fuck up the stew'. I had a grand total of one relationship, after being incel for 23 years, and that was 3 years ago. She had the control in the relationship, since as proven now, I had no other real choice. It's horrible for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 10:33 PM
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Finally. I don't care if some used up single mother wants to be with me because I have money in my 30s. It's not about love, not even about sex, it's about power dynamics, control and feeling desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:54 PM
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So true, I just heard the patriarchy actually lets women vote, and they are taught to read in school. Who came up with that? What a crazy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:49 PM
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Short and balding, two fully genetic traits are now disgusting. But remember incels, it's all in your head, it's all about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:48 PM
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Wasn't this an ironic incel meetup?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:45 PM
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This is just my experience, but I have seen two types of men in leadership positions. Either the pushy, assertive short guy, or the laid back tall guy. Both had good qualities in the workplace, just different ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:42 PM
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Yeah, if the 'every guy' is like that, no wonder I don't get matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:39 PM
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Jesus Christ I missed comments like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:37 PM
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Nah. I was only in Virginia and California when I went to the states. And in the UK, London, they have their share of fatties too. I spend most of my time in Eastern EU, it's kinda biased. Many people are fat, but there are very few morbidly obese people, I guess it's because fast food is less prevalent. Alcohol is more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 02:54 PM
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Although I live in Eastern Europe, so we have an overrepresentation of alcoholics and an underrepresentation of morbidly obese people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 01:32 PM
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Why are you so hung up on this? Fatties aren't people smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:08 AM
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Feed them well, don't let them become gymnasts, and opt for sports like water polo or swimming. And HGH. Never forget the HGH.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:05 AM
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I have seen tons of 60+ year old alcoholics, but I have never seen a 60+ year old morbidly obese person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:53 AM
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What is even merit? If you are born into the United States, you are automatically better off than 90% of the planet, and anything you get is just a consequence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 11:07 PM
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I try to live like I was a real person, but most of the time, I doubt I'm even there at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 10:20 PM
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They don't. Most of them can only get Chad for a pnd, and they could only get ugly men, but they reject them. This is the tragedy of below average looking women. Although they do it to themselves, so I don't really feel sorry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 05:30 PM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:41 PM
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They might manifest in personality, but women apparently don't care about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:25 PM
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'and they wonder why they don't get laid' This is a very retarded statement, that is being repeated over and over again. Do you actually think women care anything about what men talk about on the internet? No, they care about looks and to some degree, social proof. Why do you think wife beaters exist if women don't shag misogynist men? Sometimes I wonder why I even bother typing these.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:02 PM
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How do you define low value men? It feels to me like men in the past were considered low/high value based on a number of factors, including wealth and looks, but now looks have started to grow as an influencing factor, to the point where they are more important than any other. Added, I didn't live in the 60s or 70s. My dad was never a pretty-looking guy and he could only get married at 40, so looks were probably a major influence back then too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 07:41 AM
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Yeah, I agree, people should make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 09:17 PM
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They are selling fake companionship to men who are depressed and lonely. It's quite unhealthy to spend money on a twitch thot that you could spend on a gym membership. Or even a beer. Yeah, even a beer would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 08:17 PM
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I believe they should not be banned, and I want hard drugs legalized. People should make their own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 08:16 PM
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The idea is the same, they're selling something unhealthy to willing customers. It's just a difference in degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 07:40 PM
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This point of view is totally understandable if you are also for the legalization and decriminalization of hard drugs, prostitution, all gambling and usury.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 07:06 PM
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And anyways, you can even hit PRs on a cut, it's just bodybuilding marketing that you have to eat and drink weight gainers all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 11:28 PM
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Yeah, you kind of cannot exist without muscles. But you know what I meant. Being lean and having muscles is a lot better than making another PR on the squat, but looking like a butcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 11:20 PM
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Being lean is much more important imo than having muscles. Men probably get the best results when being both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:26 PM
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This should be great news, no?
/r/BlackPillScience11/10/20 10:34 PM
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Ugh, tired of this argument. There are some legitimately mentally impaired guys they show here. But is it so fucking hard to understand that some of us are just normal guys who just don't have any luck? Why is this so hard to understand for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/20 01:06 AM
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Based department?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 03:46 PM
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Maybe your preferences are different from women in their 20s. I'm only telling you my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:48 AM
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No worries, I was probably a bit irritated, as I didn't get a lot of sleep yesterday. Just another comment, I think a lot of women think about Jason Statham or Bruce Willis when they think 'bald'. But most men don't look like them. Mpst men have strange skull shape that makes them look weird when bald. The reason why we try and cling to every hair we have, even combovers is because being bald looks bad on most of us. In time it could look better than a comober, but look at most guys on r/bald. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 08:27 AM
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I'd give my left testicle to start balding at 50. I had a very noticable mickey mouse shape when I was 16, and by the time I was 25, most of my hair was gone from the top. And most men don't look good when they're bald or balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:39 PM
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But if you don't care, why would you ask him to take it off? You know balding is a huge issue for lots of men, and hairpieces are a way of bringing our youth back, like you know, women use makeup, high heels, pushup bras, and we're cool with that. Asking a man to take off his hairpiece is like me asking a woman to take off her pushup because I want to see her real boob size.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:13 PM
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I really wouldn't care, why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:04 PM
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So basically he should look acceptable to you without putting in the effort - maintaining a hairpiece. Thanks for confirming my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:02 PM
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How would you react if you learned that your date wears a hairpiece?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:50 PM
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This is the key. You never tell a woman what you did to get where you are. If you're rich, she doesn't care about the hours you put into your career or your enterprise, she just wants to see how fat your wallet is. If you're ripped, you tell her you work out a few times, because being a gymrat is unattractive. If your skin is perfect, you don't tell her about the products you use, because she wants a man with genetically perfect skin. Women are not interested in your journey, they are interested…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:19 PM
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The first part is absolutely false, women are convinced they have it a lot harder. Just look at any topic about online dating. As for the second part, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 08:07 AM
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Not saying lassiez-faire parenting can't turn out well. But I think it usually doesn't. Also, I don't think women have different issues in life as men. OP is deleted now, but he said some strange things about daughters, I just let that flow through my ears, because I can only tell you stuff I wish I was taught. I think the main issue with raising girls is not letting them get into an abusive relationship, and basically that's it. Women usually don't fail in life, because they have more support. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:54 PM
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Yeah, spoilt western kids are ungrateful. Nothing new in that. Forcing your kid to do stuff they don't like is called parenting. My parents never forced me to do anything. Guess what, they raised a 26 year old virgin. I had to figure out everything by myself. It's not a pleasant experience, I tell you that. If by some miracle I ever have kids, I won't fuck up parenting as my parents did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:26 PM
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Go to TwoX and search for 'stare' And no, you won't find this exact quote, because it was an intentional hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:17 PM
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I'm not projecting. Do you think ugly men go to women talking like that? The entitlement and the privilege is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:14 PM
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I never really enjoyed mathematics. Then 2 years before graduation I learned that I will have to take an advanced exam if I wanted to get in the university I wanted to. So every day I sat down, and learned it. In the end, I got from an almost failing grade to getting the best result in the school for that year on the advanced exam. But I still didn't enjoy mathematics, I was result oriented, just wanted to get a good grade. But I kinda got used to it, and it wasn't so horrible at the end. Today …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:11 PM
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Nah, they are probably ugly. Not Quasimodo ugly, but 'creepy guy smiled at me today' ugly. But most incels could looksmax, work out regularly, get basic issues fixed (teeth, maybe hair if they're balding) and become at least average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:05 PM
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It was a hyperbole, but you get the idea, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 11:03 AM
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This means that intelligence could cause someone to become incel, not that all incels are intelligent. I'm not especially intelligent, I think I scored 118 on one test, and 125 on another, but I still couldn't find someone for a very long time. It has more to do with looks, and good-looking people are often intelligent too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 09:58 AM
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Children need to learn that there are tons of things you don't enjoy, but have to get done. That's how life works for most people. They might not like sports, but the end result is something that is well worth it. I for example resent my parents for not making me do any sports, not teaching me about proper nutrition, and making me wait until I was in my twenties to figure it out by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:34 AM
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Tons of kids hate school. Should parents be flexible on this issue too? Should they just take out their children from school if they don't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:09 AM
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But most incels just call themselves ugly and give up before trying and actually sticking to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 08:02 AM
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Empathy is grown a lot easier than looks. Your teenagehood affects your looks for decades, it's stupid to let it go to waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:59 AM
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Taking care of your kids' well-being instead of letting them get fat is disgusting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:56 AM
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It kind of does. Kids who have a system in their lives will become happier adults, not the ones who are left to do whatever they want. That's just liberal parenthood, that is obviously failing in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:53 AM
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So people who do sports as kids because of their parents will become disgusted with sports? I see the literal opposite, they don't stop when they get older, unlike kids who never did sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:52 AM
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And why do you think women complain about how many 'garbage men' are there on Tinder when they don't even talk to them? Women are insulted to their very core if they feel sexual attraction from an unappealing male. They think they deserve better. Girls are taught that they deserve everything, and that's why they are so entitled when they grow up. Not that any kind of male attention is good, lmao. Who got that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:40 AM
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I mean, yeah, instagram has this feature, it's called a profile pic, dunno if you heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:35 AM
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Happy to get attractive male attention. Ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:30 AM
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If you mean attractive male attention, I give it to you. But that's like 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 10:36 PM
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If that was true, then male sexlessness should have grown the same way female sexlessness did. But female sexlessness has stayed stagnant. Why would that be? Also, there was a fresher study that showed 30%. You're welcome not to believe me on that one, because I don't have the patience now to dig it up, just putting it out there. And also, 51% of young men are single, and only 32% of young women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:54 PM
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You didn't understand the question. Why would be the reason for incels be that the economy is poor, and they have to live with their parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:38 PM
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Many incels quote a rule of thumb that 20% of men have 80% of the sex. Is this true? It turns out, the answer is no. And of course, it isn’t! Imagine how much sex those 20% of men would have to be having! A substantial share would need to be doing two-a-days on a regular basis to maintain that kind of share. In reality, according to the GSS, the top 20% of the most sexually active never-married young men have about 50-60% of the sex. LMAO. It's not actually 80%, it's only 60% so incels are wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:32 PM
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What kind of world do you live in where women think positively of male attraction? Just go on TwoX and see the hundreds of 'an unattractive male smiled at me today, I hate being a woman, kill all men' posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:23 PM
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If by decent you mean handsome, then I don't disagree. It just seems like thiss category is ever shrinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:12 PM
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Yes. It was even more generous back then. It's also worth noting that these laws generally favor middle to higher earning people. For example, someone on the minimum wage gets a lot less in tax returns than a doctor or a lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:04 PM
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Yeah, that's why I like to spell it out instead of abbreviating. You don't have to be a women-hating maniac to be involuntarily celibate in 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 04:56 PM
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30% of young men are sexless. I would guess most aren't because they want to. Like it or not, involuntary celibacy is a growing issue for young men. And this sub is about sexuality, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 02:56 PM
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The downside is that public education and healthcare are garbage, and wages are pretty low (average gross is around 1300 USD).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:33 AM
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And yes, there is a parents tax relief that grows exponentially with each child and is applicable until the child turns 18. It's a bit complicated, but with 3 children and an average wage you basically don't pay 90% of your taxes. Also, women who have 4 children are tax exempt for the rest of their lives, although that is only for income tax, which is 15%. Couples also benefit from a subsidized personal loan (10M also) with around 3-5% APR and the remaining loan is fully released when they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:27 AM
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It kinda does. Although crude fertility rate is decreasing (tons of women now enter an age where they can no longer have children) the actual fertility rate for 18-40 is growing steadily. It's not yet enough to stop the decrease in population, but it started slowing it a bit after about 5 years. We also have our own baby boomers dying right now (and we have a lower life expectancy than most western countries) , so deaths have also been growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:12 AM
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Hungary, one of the most conservative countries in the EU, where women whine about stuff like being used for breeding, and how degrading that is. 1 year is quite normal in the EU, the 2 years after where you get reduced wage is very special, and makes Hungary the country that offers the longest maternity period in Europe, and I think 3rd longest in the world. Edit, specific rules are: 24 weeks of fully paid leave, then half a year of 70% of wage, then one and half year of 70% of wage with the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 09:03 AM
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What makes you think most incels are extremely intelligent? I mean yeah, probably most incels are more intelligent than the people on IncelTear, but that's a pretty low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:52 AM
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I'm 26, hah. Work and university are probably the largest in real life too, and social circle. But most people I know actually met online. I think online dating is the go-to type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:36 AM
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I'm not sure how that goes. I know no couples who got together in bars, but I know several ones who got together online. In fact, one of them just got married, and they met on Tinder. Now that I typed that out, I actually know a couple that met in a nightclub. Maybe bars are different in the US, I don't know. Here, I'm not even sure where people meet in real life anymore. I know a couple that met at the workplace and some that met in university, but these aren't random encounters, they already k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:52 AM
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Where I live you have to pay 1 year of wages for a woman who has a child, and you can't fire her. Then for 2 years you have to pay a reduced wage, and still can't fire her. And if she has another child, you start over, and still can't fire her. You can only fire her 1 year after she returns, and by that time, why would you do that. Hiring a woman who doesn't already have kids and is at least middle aged is a huge risk. But muh wage gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 06:42 AM
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What is even 'ugly'? What's the definition, how do women say someone is ugly? Because I tend to see that women tell every single incel that they're not actually ugly. But in purely looks based situations, like for example dating on Tinder, these incels have no luck. Why is this so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 04:59 PM
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Yeah, that is a good way of thinking about it. My point is, tons of things are forced by the government. Why is a quota to include more women in a company board any different than a law restricting women's access to abortions for example? Both are restrictions, both could be enforced by the state. It's just a difference in what we are forcing, and what we are trying to accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 04:19 PM
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Do you think you'd be able to tell if someone is an incel in real life? And if yes, by what criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 04:14 PM
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Buddy, I couldn't care less that whether you like paying taxes or not, they're not voluntary. Nobody but people who don't know what they're talking about think taxes are voluntary. If you had taken something like an Econ 101, you'd know this. Or just look up the definition of taxes in Merriam Webster. You'll be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:59 PM
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I'm so tired of hearing this bullshit argument. You seem to be someone who never even heard of something called 'law'. Wherever you go, you are required to abide by your nation's laws. Even if you live in the woods in your nation. Even if you go to another country. There is no choice, unless you relinquish your citizenship, which in many countries, you can't, unless you have another. 'Go and live in the woods' is a fucking 5th grader argument used by people who absolutely have no idea what they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:53 PM
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I mean, they kinda are? Not like I agreed with anyone on getting 48% taken from my paycheck. Government spending is by the authority of government and taxation is on the authority of the government. You can say it has a purpose - of course it has - but you can't say taxation is voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:27 PM
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Just backtracking a bit, why do you think entitled, but good-looking people get sex, and are in fact known as fuckboys, while entitled, ugly looking people don't? To me it seems like entitlement isn't the real problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:25 PM
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Some incels can't be helped with simply getting a better body, although I agree, the majority could looksmax. But also, being incel can't usually be because of a single trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:20 PM
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Like the entire penal code? Workplace laws? Driving laws and restrictions? Tax laws? Government by definition works by force. You obey the policeman not because you find him a sweet guy, but because if you don't he will throw you in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:14 PM
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As for your edit, funny how depending on the context incels should either lower their standards or should get higher standards. This feels like useless contrarianism to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:11 PM
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I mean, like half of the Islamic world thinks like this. I bet the half of Asia too. A 150 years ago probably the entire Sweden, the best example today of social liberalism thought like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:10 PM
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Not really. It all depends on what you find okay to force on other people. Western liberal democracies force entirely different things on people than Saudi Arabia for example. But force is force. The difference is merely in a degree. Incels think women should be forced to do things they don't want to. Liberals think companies should be forced to do things they don't want to. Conservatives think gays should be forced to do things they don't want to. Fundamentally there is no difference between th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 03:06 PM
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Quite the assumption. Funny how good-looking entitled people have no such problems as incels. What are they called now, fuckboys? That should tell us a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:56 PM
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That's like saying women and men have the same privileges in a workplace despite knowing how women are a lot less likely to make it to a leadership position than men. Going by your way of thinking, women have the same chances because they can accept and reject job offers the same way as men do. It might work like that in theory, but in practice, women are the choosers in the SMP. Men have a lot fewer choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:52 PM
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Your mistake is thinking incels talk about their romantic failure all the time. Even when I was severely depressed because of being incel, I went to college, worked part-time, socialized with my friends, and went to the gym. And I always tried avoiding romantic subjects with my friends. In fact, I think normies talk about it a lot more in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:49 PM
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In the sexual marketplace, women have more 'rights' than men. I would rather call it more privilege. Incels see this, and conclude that to balance this out, women should be stripped of their choices. This isn't too different from how many third* wave feminists think about men. *fourth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:38 PM
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Thinking that doesn't make anyone incel. Tons of married people think like that, even tons of women. To be fair, I think the majority of men actually think like that - keep in mind the majority of men don't live in liberal western democracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:31 PM
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Dating isn't fun for virgins when they try either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 02:17 PM
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It's a Disney movie for kids. They're not going to show Esmeralda hanged, then her and Quasimodo's corpses decaying together because then no parent will allow it to be shown to their kids. The original novel is an actual romantic piece of art, and wasn't written for profit, and it is much more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 01:00 PM
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Don't talk about the anime if you don't know the manga.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 09:37 AM
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It's a work of fiction, and you didn't even get the plot right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/20 08:54 AM
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The issue is, women can always date up, men, not so much, maybe sometimes. I mean, my only ever girlfriend is married now, and I haven't had sex since we broke up. So it doesn't really work that way. If she hurt you, you need to hurt back, because otherwise she will come out as a winner. Living your best life is great, but most of us don't actually havecbest lives, we have gruelling hard tasks, and in the end we might get a little satisfaction. Her reaction on the video is 100% worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 03:15 PM
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It's very simple, you should try. Oh, you've been trying? Then you didn't try the correct way. Debating with these people is pointless, they are walking logical fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 03:01 PM
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Well, then we have a disagreement in the difference of degree. I mean, I would say that all 30% of young men are not voluntarily sexless, but sure, you can think that. It's ridiculous in my opinion, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:33 PM
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Oh, so it's 'most cases' now. Thank you for confirming what I stated in the beginning, but you could have done it a bit earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 02:03 PM
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Okay, let's talk about building a car, or why someone is unable to build a car. It can be lack of effort. Lack of knowledge. Lack of funds. Lack of working hands and body. Lack of physical well-being. Lack of mental well-being. Lack of outside help - as there is no one in this world who can build an Audi by himself. It could be literally dozens of reasons. Saying it's because you didn't try or because you didn't know what to do is lazy reasoning. Same reasoning as saying poor people are poor bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 01:12 PM
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Yeah it can. Both are complex issues that can't be boiled down to 'you just don't try hard enough'. That doesn't mean they're the same. I am appaled I have to explain this. But it's easier getting offended than actually reading and thinking, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:54 PM
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I criticized the way of thinking. I didn't equate. If you couldn't tell this, you're either stupid or you intentionally misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:39 PM
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There are only 2 reasons why people with cancer die: They don't try to live They are trying but they don't know what they're doing There are lots of people who have cancer, and don't die, because they did all the right things, the things those who died, didn't. No other factors are in play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 11:22 AM
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Also, tons of people who contributed greatly to society were also depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 09:30 PM
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The existence of the greatest men in history depended on their fathers' reproductive success.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 09:28 PM
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What is strange is that while women have fewer sexual partners over their lifetime, and even in their youth on average, there are also fewer single young women than men (51% men vs 32% women), and more young men are sexless than young women. I would really like to see a distribution on the average partners men have. My guess is most men have a low number, while some men have an extremely high nimber. But it may be my bias talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:22 PM
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As weird as it sounds, I'm a lot less interested in sex, than going on Tinder, looking at my 200 matches, choosing one to talk to and her enthusiastically replying. Or being smiled at randomly on the street. Or experiencing those famed IOIs I always read about on TRP. I totally agree. It's not about sex, it's about climbing the imaginary pecking order.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 06:51 PM
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Success with women is them being interested in you. Rejecting women because you want to stay single and abstinent till marriage is normal. Not having a single woman express interest in you for a decade isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:54 PM
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Yeah, this is so tiring. Yeah, we should better ourselves, but do we have to become Elon Musks to have a chance with women? People took the neckbeard stereotype too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:45 PM
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Is it though? I think I also achieved a lot compared to today's youth. I have my own car - living in a large city in Europe saying this is a bit different from the US. I have my apartment mostly paid down, I have a good paying job. But the key difference is that I had major depressive episodes while doing all this. I always felt shit even when I did something. I think it would have been a lot different if I had at least some success. You think your sexual success didn't seep into other parts of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:20 PM
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I don't think a guy who has been having sex since 16 should be an authority on restraint. No offense, but reading your post history, you're the male equivalent of women who are ready to settle down at 30. After having fun you decided that men don't actually need to have sex. Try going decades without sex and then say you don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:00 PM
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I agree, but why does it take this much willpower to abstain from masturbation? I would guess 95% of western men, including me can't really abstain from it for longer periods. It's because we are wired to want female attention and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:05 PM
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This sounds nice, but I think it's cope. Tons of sexually successful people are also successful in life, and the validation they receive seeps everywhere. Conversely sexually unsuccessful men are usually frustrated, and that also seeps into other parts of their lives. In fact, sex boosts your self-esteem, while masturbation lowers it, so being alone is more of a detriment than help in getting ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:30 PM
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How do you deal with constant rejection? Not being rejected 4 out of 5,but being rejected every time you try?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:13 PM
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In that case you're probably right. But I'd note that negativity usually comes after lack of success. Not the otjer way around, as many people would like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:03 PM
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And both people are dead, but Tesla was severely depressed, and the man who banged the most women was probably not.
/r/MGTOW229/09/20 02:00 PM
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The reason for incels being incels is not improper socialization or inadequate parents. It's mainly looks. Good-looking people with bad childhoods or improper socialization might have bad experiences in dating, but they don't get rejected every time I know a sort of autistic guy, who was laughably bad at every social interaction we had. We even cut him out because he was so embarrassing every time. But he is 6'2, and average looking, so he had women who were after him. He might not have the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 01:47 PM
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Most incels are just average, or below average guys. The dating market makes it harder for all men to find a relationship these days, and it pushes women's expectations up. Most incels could get sex if they looksmaxxed, but that would also raise women's expectations. In short, most incels over-dramatize their situation, and although the dating market is getting worse for men, it's not impossible to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 08:40 AM
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Look, I'm at the gym right now, and just did a 5x110 squat as a part of my stronglifts 5x5 program. I am on a cut, and have more strength than what I had when I started it. I'm not questioning the fact that muscular hypertrophy or progressing with weights or caloric defficit/sufficit works. It absolutely does, I can attest to that. All I'm saying is I don't look like a guy who can squat that. Not like that's an exceptional number, but considering 30% of the men in my country are obese, that puts…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 01:09 PM
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But ambition is not objective reality, it's your perception. You might think someone is extremely ambitious, yet another person could think he's the laziest person in the world. Height is objective reality. Masculine facial dimorphism is objective reality. A V-shaped torso is objective reality. In fact, the halo effect is so strong, that we actually assign more ambition to taller people than shorter ones, and taller people on average tend to earn more and get into higher, more leadership positio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:53 PM
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Men, on average, tend to be attracted to women who have a youthful appearance and exhibit features such as a symmetrical face, full breasts, full lips, and a low waist-hip ratio. Women, on average, tend to be attracted to men who are taller than they are and who display a high degree of facial symmetry, masculine facial dimorphism, upper body strength, broad shoulders, a relatively narrow waist, and a V-shaped torso. There are slight variations on what women and men find attractive, but they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:48 PM
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No, it's not. You percieve someone as ambitious. Ambition is not a quality like having blue eyes. It is based on other people's perception. Two can argue about someone being ambitious, and they can come to different conclusions, but you can't argue about someone's eye color.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:41 PM
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It absolutely matters. This means that you can't name any other quality, but looks upon which you can decide whether you want to be in a relationship or not. Looks are objective reality, any other quality are just your perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:37 PM
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The difference is, you can lie about being ambitious, or rather about any kind of personality trait. Women don't have a 6th sense, they are just as easily fooled as men. But you can't lie about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:35 PM
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But you only choose attractive people as partners. So that means being attractive is the most important thing in a partner, since without it, you won't choose him, no matter how many good other qualities he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 03:14 PM
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Sexy people don't really need to complain in the first place though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 02:57 PM
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So you're saying women would rather choose an attractive partner than a good partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 02:36 PM
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How are you getting sexually aroused if your partner is unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 02:30 PM
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So you might not find your partner attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 02:09 PM
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That's a tautology. You can define a good partner by qualities, but not with itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 01:24 PM
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True, in the eyes of women, good partner equals attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 01:04 PM
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Not going to change your view, just add that men who are more romantic and who care more about long term relationships are also demonized by feminists, who insist that they only do nice things to get women, and that they feel entitled to them. Men can't complain about the dating market nowadays without being labeled incel or creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 11:39 AM
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Everything else seems like cope, a consolation price and a participation trophy. At least to me. I know this is not logical, I'm just describing how I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:25 PM
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It's a sort of virtue signalling for them I guess. Or just sour grapes because they know they are too ugly for an actually good-looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:15 PM
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I mean, yeah, but back when I was 72kg, 184cm and lifting 85x8 on the bench for example, I still looked fat. Almost no definition. It's just hard to believe that I should look like that at those stats. I know it's not the max, I wasn't an IFBB Pro, but still, for some of us, it's just harder to do so. I have to count every single calorie, and I simply can't dirty bulk because I will become a fatass. Right now I'm 84,going back down to 72, but I can't help but wonder if I will look shit again eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:12 PM
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Maybe, if they were strong-willed, but societal expectations are just too much. The past year I have been invited to 2 weddings. I told them in the moment of the invitation that no, I won't bring anyone. Not a maybe, a definite no. I was asked another 2 times by each of the grooms again as we went closer to the wedding, and it started to feel awkward. I can't count the number of times it came up with my friends. 'Oh, you should install Tinder' or 'why aren' t you trying?. Not just one, but multi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 05:04 PM
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To me it feels strange that I lift way more than the average lifter at my gym, and yet they look way better. Not sure about this. It's true, I have a lot of bf% now, but even when I didn't have this much I looked like a fatty...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:07 PM
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Women consume more than men, and produce less in terms of value - although you can argue that childbirth and motherhood are not included in a GDP calculation, and they still have enormous value for society. Women also pay less tax than men and get more benefits than men. They are also the majority of voters. Yet somehow they convinced the world that they exert less influence over it than men, and somehow everything wrong in the world leads back to toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:05 PM
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Maybe, but still, there is a reason why most men seek out female intimacy. It's something hard wired in us. Now being desired by women, and then rejecting them is very different from not being desired by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 01:00 PM
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If a 120kg landwhale told me she wants to suck on my penor, I'd not be aroused. If I were told the same thing by someone I am physically attracted to, I would be. Women are not so different from us. It's time to let go of this notion that women are not as visual as men. They are visual exactly the same way. It's both redpill and bluepill cope that women are not mainly concerned with looks. Now I'm not saying looks are all that matter. You can screw up even with good looks. But being physically u…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 12:58 PM
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The plurality of couples meet online these days though, even before corona.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:17 PM
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No picture works in a filthy dimly lit bathroom. Yours is is not an argument agains shirtless pics, it is an argument about the quality of pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:15 PM
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Being arousing is exactly the same as looking good. Do you get a boner for a woman's intellect or her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 10:12 PM
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Because if we say no to something that is within your choice, it's power, and to say no to something because you have no other choice is just powerlessness. You cant't GYOW without first knowing what you say no to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 06:11 PM
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And you don't have to be a supermodel to seduce. However, it doesn't hurt, to put it mildly. Innate beauty/handsomeness is as required for seduction, as a sense of humour is required for comedy. You can practice it all day, but if you don't have a sense of humour, you will never be funny. Now you will say that a sense of humour is not a genetic trait. And I agree, neither is attractiveness, both can be improved upon, but both need to have a solid innate foundation. I don't like it when six foot …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 03:17 PM
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Anxious? Just relax. Not like I don't agree, but it's easier said than done. Like, it's easy when the topic doesn't come up, but even woth friends it does all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 01:03 PM
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For one, seduction is not a fully learnable skill. If it was, we would see balding indian janitors being fawned over by women the same rate we see tall white high school football captains. And unlike math, which involves a subject to be learned, seduction involves consent from the other party. You don't ask your guitar consent when you practice on it. Treating seduction like any other skill depersonalizes women, and strips them of their agency. Maybe this could be applied to 1950, but not today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:33 PM
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But social skills don't really get you women. By everyone I asked, I have good social skills, I am not autistic, I have multiple friends, and various groups of friends. I still struggle with dating a lot. And you actually made a good point. Recent studies show that math skills are more innate than learned. Good example of dating. It is 90% decided by who you were born as, and like 10% decided by what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 09:56 AM
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It would be just sour grapes at that point, not logically consistent. Incels don't go their own way, they are sent their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 08:33 AM
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Not sure about most or if there is a direct causality, but yeah, it could be an explanation amongst other things. White incels very probably. I know I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 06:49 AM
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Dude, that's impressive. Not saying women care much, apparently they don't, but just throwing it out for you. Respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 09:04 PM
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What is your bf%? Are you using a mirror shirtless pic or a 'natural' beach shirtless pic on OLD?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 04:28 PM
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It's not too horrible for me either, but it shows when I'm low bf. Kids shouldn't be able to get fat, they're going to hate themselves forever for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 07:11 AM
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Well yeah, men care about women. Duh. Same way women care abozt incels, even if they refuse to admit. The suffering of an unworthy male makes them feel happy because that's how they're wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:19 PM
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Women show themselves not caring by establishing entire forums dedicated to 'watchdogging' incels and making incel an insult to everyone they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:09 PM
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At my best I could bench 85kgx8 @ 72 kg and 184cm. I had no visible abs though in fact I think I still looked kinda fat. Got really disheartened from losing 20 kg and still looking like shit, and also a family tragedy struck, and I got fat again. I just started going back, I'm 85 and at 85x5 in my stronglifts restart programme. I think the only way I could get visible abs once I get down to below 10% bf is to have skin removal plus liposuction. It isn't even that expensive, so I might go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 09:51 PM
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The removed comment wasn't mine, I just responded to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:50 AM
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Just because I disagree with a woman, doesn't mean I'm mean to her. Read my comments again, do I even call her names or anything? I just told her why I think she's wrong. Because she has such vastly different experiences, and this is why her advice seems condescending to incels. Jesus, are we not even allowed to disagree with women anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:39 AM
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I'm 26. I earn a reasonably good wage, probably top 5% where I live. I have my own apartment, although with a mortgage and I own a Peugeot. Even though I keep working hard, training myself, advancing my career, investing, I'm still nowhere near BB level, I'm just a lower middle class guy. Now very good-looking women can get a rich sugar daddy. Average women can go on onlyfans. Amd honestly, I'm not interested in below average women. BB was an option 50 years ago, now you have to be rich to pull …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 07:12 PM
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I like to take my financial advice from people with a similar socio-economic background. Maybe that's the same thing he was thinking about with regards to dating. Not saying you can't offer a piece of your mind, but you have such vastly different experiences, that your advice is near useless to romantically unsuccessful men. That's like me giving you advice on TwoX about periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 05:36 PM
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How would you feel if Jeff Bezos told you he feels sorry for you, and gave you advice on how to earn money? Like, even if he meant it, I can tell you I'd be slightly offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 12:10 PM
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I never know what people mean by "peaking in high school". I know lots of people who were very successful in high school socially and in dating, and all of them are doing extremely well. Prior success is a good predictor of future success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 11:54 AM
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You can always find someone who is worse off than another person, and that doesn't subtract anything from their problems.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 11:18 PM
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Your point?
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 11:13 PM
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'Some people somewhere have it worse' is an awful argument.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 11:10 PM
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Yeah, that's why male suicide rates are rising. How lucky we are indeed.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 11:05 PM
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No, but the reason why so many young men, including OP are depressed is not because of lack of budgeting skills, but because of the inequality in the dating market.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 10:46 PM
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At 23, I had no car, lived with a roommate and earned the equivalent of around 300 dollars a month. Not everyone is fortunate enough to be born into a rich country with rich parents.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 10:40 PM
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If pussy is the goal, then 'budgeting' is quite tangential to the discussion.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 10:31 PM
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He's gonna slay all that puss with those damn budgeting skills
/r/ExRedPill17/03/20 10:24 PM
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Being incel is a result of getting constant negative or no feedback. You cannot break it by yourself, you have to start getting positive feedback, which is basically impossible as an ugly guy. The only way to "break" this mindset is becoming more attractive, and as a result, getting positive feedback. And that's hard and expensive for genetically ugly men.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/20 04:51 PM
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