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"Nearly 1 in 5 women (18.3%) and 1 in 71 men (1.4%) in the United States have been raped at some time in their lives, including completed forced penetration, attempted forced penetration,or alcohol/drug "It is safe to assume that the vast majority of the CDC’s male respondents who were “made to penetrate” someone would not call themselves rape victims—and with good reason." That good reason is that the definition includes much more than actual forced sex or a real, violent attempt at forced sex.…
/r/MensRights28/03/23 10:00 PM
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"It includes an attempt to make them but it did not happen." The statistics on women do not include an "attempt" So your stats literally include men that weren't made to penetrate
/r/MensRights28/03/23 05:21 PM
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That man's experience is RARE. What he is describing is something we saw all day every day in women. Why tf do you think he's on a damn talk show? The same thing is happening to women daily and it's not on the damn news bc it's normal. If the news reported all the women being killed and abused there'd be nothing else on the news
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:46 PM
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I'm saying it's different. You're acting like they are experiencing the exact same things and they are not. In many if not most, instances, she wasn't even the abuser but reactive abuse or self defense was counted. Yes, the fact that it isnt escalating to murder fucking matters. Men are murdered by other men! Almost no men are murdered by gfs. Domestic violence is absolutely a gendered problem. We ran a treatment program for perpetrators and the men felt like it was their right to control these …
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:32 PM
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Domestic violence? I thought we were talking about sexual assault? Women and men do not experience the same kind of domestic violence at all. I used to work at a facility that helped both women and men, I have a biological psychology degree and I'm very familiar with the research bc of my job. Most abuse by women is psychological, or sometimes things like hitting. But they do not excercise the same kind of control and fear for their life like men do and it is not anywhere near the same level of …
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:16 PM
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No, it isn't the same source. I can't find your source. The only source I could find that has numbers that high includes self reported stalking and harassment. Not just actual sexual assault. If you look at RAAIN it says 90% of victims are female and 99% of perpetrators are male. And the definition is forced sex.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:07 PM
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What is your source and what definitions are they using?
/r/MensRights27/03/23 04:24 PM
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No. 1 CDC report claims 1 in 14 men have been made to penetrate and out of those, 79% reported a female perpetrator. 87% of male rape victims had a male perpetrator. Then it says 1 in 79 men are raped in their lifetime. And 1 in 5 women are raped and 99% are male perpetrators. Nowhere does it say men are majority rape victims. And the "made to penetrate" definition was very loose, and included feeling pressured to have sex. The women's rape definition did not include "feeling pressured," if that…
/r/MensRights27/03/23 05:52 AM
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Wow. And then you nut cases will try and advocate for men in DV relationships. You know nothing
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 12:18 PM
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You aren't understanding. Those two things make no sense together. Celibate is voluntary by definition. Some people in relationships where their SO is forcing a dead bedroom will use the term forced celibacy because they literally can't seek out other partners as they are exclusive. THAT makes perfect sense. Celibacy is when you aren't having sex but aren't trying to because you've made a no sex commitment. If you are single and looking but having trouble you aren't celibate nor is anyone making…
/r/MensRights05/09/21 03:28 AM
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Celibacy is actually a choice by definition. If you don't want to be celibate than you aren't. Not having sex doesn't mean celibate unless you choosing that
/r/MensRights05/09/21 03:16 AM
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There is no such that as "involuntarily celebate" because they aren't in a relationship and no one owes them sex. They have no right to that expectation at all. No one can force you to be celibate when there is no expectation of sex in the 1st place. The word you are looking for is "virgin" and as long as they aren't weird, angry, or bitter about it no one cares that they are one
/r/MensRights05/09/21 03:04 AM
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apparently shaming men for being virgins and not being able to find a women to have sex with is something to be proud of. Thats not what an incel is and that's not why women don't like them. What you described is a socially awkward virgin. An incel is an entitled misogynist who thinks women are literally subhuman. They follow blackpill ideology. People give them shit because of their attitude and belief system, not because they are virgins. Women aren't projecting anything onto incels they are a…
/r/MensRights05/09/21 02:53 AM
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The post and comments are clearly critical of feminism specifically because it's not addressing them. I found this post because someone posted it to a feminism sub. Stop pretending like that's not the case. I didn't wonder in here on my own accord. Whoever cross-posted it clearly thinks feminism should care about it Of course you have a right to focus on your own issues. You don't have a right to critique feminism for not doing so, you don't have a right to pretend other human suffering means th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/21 02:55 AM
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Why are you imagining that I don't thunk men suffer, some more than women or that anything I said implied that it's less or doesn't matter?? Neither of feminists either. Feminists DO care about human suffering. But feminism is specifically there to improve women's sex based inequality, politically and legally, not just socially. In this framework it is not the responsibility of feminists to advocate for human suffering in general. Men are not suffering any true political sex based oppression or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/21 12:38 AM
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I disagree they are targeted for being men all other things being equal. YOUNG, HEALTHY men, (not the male sex) goes to direct combat-not just "war" as women are in the military- because they happen to have the physicality required for it. It's not because they are men all else being equal but because women don't pass the physical test required for direct combat. Same with manual labor, there are jobs where the man's superior strength is better suited than a woman's body. They aren't targeted be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/21 09:26 PM
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I was talking about separate hierarchies though. So many of this group falsely believe that because women can be above them in the economic hierarchy, the social and political hierarchy of the sexes (men, then women as inherently inferior) doesn't exist. But they exist simultaneously. I know not every women is below all men economically although overall economically more women ARE below more men. That's not what I meant. I think the ways you believe women are valued more are not the dominant vie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/21 12:21 PM
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In the economic hierarchy, no of course all women aren't. I was talking about the social hierarchy of the sexes, men then women. Men think because their are difference in the economic hierarchy the hierarchy of the sexes doesn't also exist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/21 12:12 PM
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You didn't JUST tell me you think it's bc she's a woman and not the obvious and stated reason? That her lawyers contracted COVID?
/r/MensRights29/12/20 11:24 PM
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I find it's interesting you'd apply that to this situation despite there not being ANY evidence that's the case here, but a TON of evidence and factual info showing it's for different reasons. Could it be...your bias wanting that to be the case, to perpetrate a false persecution narrative that allows you to play the victim? No couldn't be. Bc that's what "feminists" do! Not me /s
/r/MensRights29/12/20 04:12 AM
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Mental illness is NOT legal insanity
/r/MensRights29/12/20 03:47 AM
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There is a difference between legal insanity and not possessing empathy and knowing exactly what you're doing and enjoying it. So yes. I can. Someone with schizophrenia who is in a psychosis and murders someone out of fear and panic bc they think the person is going to kill them can't get the death penalty, but someone that stalked a woman for days then broke into her house, kidnapped, raped and murdered her for no reason but his own pleasure CAN be put to death. Do you see the difference? If yo…
/r/MensRights27/12/20 09:45 PM
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No you haven't you paranoid wacko! LOL Why would you make that up? A lot of people are against putting her to death bc she suffers from multiple mental illnesses and has a low IQ. There is evidence she can't be held responsible enough to get the death penalty according to the criteria by law. That is not the case for the majority of men on death row who are not "crazy" at all but probably have antisocial personality disorder and knew exactly what they were doing but simply had no empathy. They k…
/r/MensRights27/12/20 07:03 AM
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Because this is how that study defined rape: "The authors defined sexual coercion broadly, including verbal pressure such as nagging and begging, which, the authors acknowledge, increases prevalence dramatically.” Women do not brutally and violently rape like men do. All these studies rely on ridiculously broad definitions of sexual assault so that it looks like the genders are experiencing the same, but they are not experiencing the same in severity or type. PLUS it's only that high bc they inc…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 04:26 PM
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Again. You can't go through an adoption without his permission. And going through an adoption is traumatic for HER. Not for you though, so ofc you don't care. You only care about yourself. And then she will have to go through pregnancy and childbirth. And she shouldn't be forced to do that!! She shouldn't be forced to risk her life and sacrifice her body. If babies were incubated OUTSIDE a woman's body, THEN you'd have an argument. But during pregnancy this is NOT a child with rights. It's a fet…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 04:01 PM
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Also there is no "call to arms" feminist conspiracy against men LOL. That is a paranoid MRA FANTASY. Batshit insane. The patriarchy is very visible?! The constitution was written by men and only encoded the rights of white men. Women and minorities had to fight for ammendments that gave them rights as well. That's a patriarchy. Bc all men were (and still are) disportionately in positions of power. Because women were actively kept from those positions- by men. Men are in power and use it to domin…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 03:20 PM
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I completely agree that a male rape victim shouldn't be responsible for a child by rape. Of course not. But female rape victims are also forced to take care of the baby. And the rapist is often given rights to the child. And neither should male victims of coercion or the ONE time ONE woman stole sperm. It is not financial abuse. The child exists regardless of the sex being recreational or not and the child has rights too. The child's rights are rightfully being put above BOTH parents. The law do…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 07:57 AM
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Pregnancy, children and abortion are not options. They are serious consequences that you don't have. Once the baby is there, men CAN opt out. Women can't. They have to raise the baby AND be financially responsible. What are talking about?? You have no right to "opt out" of a pregnancy you are not experiencing. OF COURSE YOU DON'T. You are telling me that you think you should have the right to make her go through an abortion. I almost died hemorrhaging during my pill abortion. It isn't a get out …
/r/MensRights20/12/20 06:24 AM
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Is this a joke?? Lol The side effects of birth control are intense. It isn't easy. Condoms are much, much easier. Men are not forced into parenting. They helped create that child themselves. The laws favor the child, not women. Take responsibility for yourselves. There was a study for birth control for men. Too many side effects. They weren't anywhere near the side effects for women's birth control of course. Lol USE A CONDOM. Women don't control whether or not they become pregnant. They don't c…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 06:08 AM
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Studies show men have MORE access to high paying jobs than women. What are you talking about?? They make up most fatalities bc women have only recently been allowed in certain industries. Industries still incredibly hostile to women. I worked briefly in construction. I left bc of the sexism and harassment. My female friend went to work on the oil rigs and was gang raped. So yeah, women aren't lining up to be in a job working alongside a bunch of men. No wonder. Women's reproductive capabilities …
/r/MensRights20/12/20 05:41 AM
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https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/domestic-abuse-is-a-gendered-crime/ "Whilst both men and women may experience incidents of inter-personal violence and abuse, women are considerably more likely to experience repeated and severe forms of abuse, including sexual violence. They are also more likely to have experienced sustained physical, psychological or emotional abuse, or violence which results in injury or death." "There are important differences between ma…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 05:10 AM
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Men are doing this to other men. That is the difference. Other men are a danger. Men are objectively more aggressive and dangerous than women. You do not have the same risk or experiences as women lol. No, most men do not see women as a collective threat and again female predators don't attack strange men. They don't rape and kill them. It's not anywhere NEAR the same threat. You're refusing to see. What you described is an isolated incident and it isn't experienced universally by men and it isn…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 04:55 AM
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I think it's important to understand that the media is blowing these stories out of proportion and men are getting the impression this is common. It's not common, at all. You just hear about it every time it happens and ofc it happens to celebrities more than the public. Cancel culture has done some good (like finally ending Harvey Weinsteins career as a rapist) but it definitely has a dark side, and some innocent people are getting canceled. It used to be that women were taught how to stay safe…
/r/MensRights20/12/20 03:29 AM
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You have 13 comment karma and are obviously an alt account. If you know he's wrong than you would actually join the discussion and contribute to the conversation instead of going out of your way to say he "destroyed" me. Which is also the exact language he used. He twisted the facts of history itself. You can't "destroy" someone in an argument if you are lying and factually wrong. That doesn't make sense. This is ridiculous and you haven't actually contributed anything. It makes no sense for an …
/r/MensRights17/12/20 10:28 PM
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It's your account that you already had dude. That's very obvious and it has almost no karma. Stop, it's embarrassing. And yes, exactly. The origins are in Egypt and used to control women. Women didn't do that to themselves. That shouldn't need to be said.
/r/MensRights17/12/20 10:10 PM
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No, it's definitely you. Otherwise you wouldn't have known what I was talking about. The account also just happens to be brand new! LMFAO How fucking cringe!! Men invented it bc it benefits them. Why are you lying and saying women invented it? That's insane. It's a religious practice and women are not valued in most religions. It's literally used to control women's sexuality. That's it's only purpose. https://www.seeker.com/how-did-female-genital-mutilation-begin-1766105357.html https://www.28to…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 09:54 PM
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The women in Africa have no choice! Are you kidding?? They also didn't invent that practice. Men did, and it only benefits men. That is extremely offensive. Do you understand the purpose of FGM? It's to control her sexuality and make sure she's a virgin for her husband. And the women don't have the power to change the custom. I'm not engaging in bad faith, absurdist arguments That is a bias blog and his points are debunked legal myths. Talk to a lawyer. They will set you straight. Also did you c…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 09:39 PM
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LOL Did you read his "sources?" No, I don't think you did. Bc they didn't back up what he was saying. Most of his sources were from MRA blogs. In fact my sources showed the opposite. You are even real? The existence of bias against men in court is not proof of institutionalized sexism. That much is very obvious. He doesn't know the definition of institutionalized sexism. Men never went to prison for their wives crimes, I showed that. His points are absurd and factually wrong, so no he didn't "de…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 09:24 PM
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Men commit 78% of all crime, not violent crime. I'm gonna say it really slow. COURT CASES DON'T EXIST OUT OF CONTEXT. WHEN A WOMEN COMMITS A VIOLENT CRIME (RARE) IF SHE GETS A SHORTER SENTENCE IT'S BC HER GENDER AS A WHOLE IS SEEN AS LESS DANGEROUS OVERALL. That is how bias works. The laws don't disadvantage men. They were made by men, you idiot. There are no "misandrist" laws. I feel so sorry for you. It must be hard to believe that the world is against you when it isn't. Total persecution comp…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 09:08 PM
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I literally JUST did. You don't understand the definition of institutionalized sexism. Individual judges have bias, it is not built into the court system itself. If women and men committed equal crime AND women built the court system AND they denied men legal rights until recently, then you could say the bias might be due to that. But none of that happened to you. It happened to women. Individual judges have bias against violent men bc men are more violent and dangerous than women. That's a fact…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 08:53 PM
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Now we have the same political power technically. That is very recent. Women have not had the vote very long, only since the 70s. I'm mean...come on, how old are you?? You don't understand what institutionalized sexism is. Bias by judges bc you commit so much crime is not institutionalized bc it isn't built into the system. The court system was built by men and advantaged men at first. The laws have changed, but there is no bias built into it. If men and women commited equal amounts of violent c…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 08:37 PM
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Also, you can't just redefine "oppressed." Oppression is determined by history, a group that is negatively effected by bias in a handful of contexts are not "oppressed." Women and minorities were oppressed because we literally had no legal rights or personhood. In the U.S men HAVE been in power since the beginning. We've never had a female president until recently and women are not equally represented in politics and women were not allowed to participate in politics until recently. When agricult…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 09:50 AM
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There is nothing about that case online. I looked it up, there's nothing. One more time. I already linked 19th century law. What you're claiming is not in that list of laws. Black people have been historically oppressed and in poverty. Their neighborhoods are policed more. White people get their charges dropped. Studies show they are more likely to get arrested. Not commit more crime. They don't commit crime bc of skin color. The bias is due to racism and skin color. That bias was there since sl…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 01:44 AM
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No, it was not a law. I already showed you that. You'd have to see the reason why in that particular case and I can't read it, bc nothing about it exists online. Black men are 11% of the population. And blacks and whites commit similar levels of crime overall but white men are more likely to get off. For example whites and blacks use drugs at similar rates. But black people are in prison for drugs more often. Despite commiting similar levels of crime and being a minority in the pop. they are ove…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 01:06 AM
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Yes. Because women are seen as less dangerous. Because they ARE. Do you see what I'm saying?? So even when they commit violent crime, that evaluation benefits her. Bc men commit more crime overall, they are judged more harshly. I'm not saying it's right, but that is the source of the bias. It's not due to gender and gender alone. Men and women are not equally dangerous overall. And that is the source of the bias. That isn't a link. I copied and pasted and I saw nothing. It's a biased blog saying…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 12:35 AM
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No you didn't. Look in your comments again. You linked sources for CURRENT bias, not any historical facts. Again. You did NOT debunk it, bc you don't understand what your own sources are saying. You didn't look at mine. I am saying that Husbands didn't go to prison in place of their wives in the 19th century and I proved it. But you refuse to read my sources and continue to claim you linked something that is discussing the 19th century law. But you didn't. And you won't show me where you linked …
/r/MensRights17/12/20 12:20 AM
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize but maybe you aren't...all there?? Do you believe that what you posted says that women in modern times or anytime, went to prison in place of their husbands??? Absolutely nothing you posted says that. You gave no historical source and what you are linking is about gender BIAS in criminal court...not a husband going to prison for his wife... It isn't a feminist claim. It's looking at sentencing differences. And I linked my sources. Also, I didn't deny there was bias. I…
/r/MensRights17/12/20 12:00 AM
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First we were talking about the 19th century, now we're talking about 2015?? Everything I said is correct IN THE 19TH CENTURY. You're moving the goalposts bc I'm right. Men did not go to jail for their wives. That's a lie. Men commit 90% of violent crime, 99% of sex crimes and 73% of all crime. If there is a bias against gender, it's bc of THAT, not bc of gender and gender alone. Bc men ARE more dangerous than women. Women are more likely to take plea deals as well and be 1st time offenders. Men…
/r/MensRights16/12/20 11:37 PM
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Women DID go to jail. For not obeying their husbands. They were killed if they cheated. Their husbands did not go to jail for her. That is another lie I see here all the time. WOMEN WERE NOT LEGAL PERSONS. THEY HAD NO LEGAL PERSONHOOD. Their husbands legally and socially had power over her- hence being responsible for their families as they were head of the family. Men were legally allowed to rape and beat their wives. There was someone they could legally hire to come beat their wives! That is n…
/r/MensRights16/12/20 11:19 PM
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No, a survey is not a study unless statistical analysis is applied. And again, those terms don't exist in a vacuum. They have to be defined and the way they are seen in society is the measure. Wow. I have never seen such mental gymnastics to deny such an obvious truth lol. Get out of this echo chamber. Those were some impressive twistings of logic to get to THAT conclusion. Why did women have no rights and her husband was in charge of her legally and socially? What do you mean spoon feed her? Ar…
/r/MensRights16/12/20 11:04 PM
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That is NOT a "study." It's a survey that doesn't define masculinity and femininity. It is literally meaningless. Those terms don't exist in a vacuum. OF COURSE women aren't made fun of for being feminine. They ARE women. Think for two seconds why people don't care about masculine women but about feminine men. WHY do you think anything feminine in men is despised?? Bc men are supposed to be better than that. Femininity is LESSER in our culture, ding dong. You can twist it but this is the very ob…
/r/MensRights16/12/20 10:41 PM
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Give me ONE example when you've been made fun of for being manly. Fucking one. Cry? Emotional- like a woman. Fat? You have "man-boobs" and a soft body- like a woman. Abused? Weak, like a woman. Girls aren't made fun of for being tom boys. Not the same way. Feminine men are much, much more stigmatized. Why do you think that is?? Literally anytime a male is put down or made fun of it's because he's "acting like a girl." Imagine a boy wearing a dress. Girls can wear men's clothing just fine. In fac…
/r/MensRights16/12/20 10:26 PM
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Do...do you not know the difference between S.S and the draft?? Lol No...you didn't destroy any argument about circumcision LOL! It doesn't cause "extreme psychological trauma." I have a degree in psychology. There is no way to prove that there are trauma symptoms in an adult from circumcision. You can't prove that causation Honestly tho, are you a teen?
/r/MensRights15/12/20 05:59 AM
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In fact the person most likely to abuse a child is the step father. Also 99% of pedophiles are men and if you break down the abuse by category men are much more likely to commit severe abuse than women. I'm not interested in an idiotic and absurd argument that circumcision is anything like FGM. I already explained why. It's fine to believe that circumcision shouldn't happen but it isn't comparable to FGM. Circumcision objectively is practiced bc of health benefits. It's fine to say it's not need…
/r/MensRights15/12/20 04:27 AM
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Again. The numerator is NUMBER OF INCIDENTS. The denominator is NUMBER OF FATHERS. Fathers can abuse more than once, hence a bigger numerator. I looked at your source. You don't understand it. It is counting number of incidents and not controlling for the fact that more mothers have their children than fathers. I will edit this again and try to explain slower. You can't count number of incidents and then count the sex the of the perpetrator. It will ALWAYS show that women more often are the perp…
/r/MensRights15/12/20 04:11 AM
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No lol. Take a few more math courses. And your "source" is an extremely biased write up by someone with zero credentials. How old are you?? You can't use sources like that, you have to use published studies The percentage you are quoting is the raw number of incidents out of the total number of parents (fathers and mothers combined). Then, they did a percentage on incidents with mothers and incidents with fathers. See the problem yet? This is a perfect example of how to lie with statistics to pe…
/r/MensRights14/12/20 11:44 PM
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Again. You have to correct for the fact that more mothers have their children alone than fathers. When you correct for that, fathers overwhelmingly are more dangerous to their children
/r/MensRights14/12/20 10:32 PM
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Btw I edited my original comment to include sources. Mothers aren't more abusive than fathers. You have to control for the fact that they have their children alone more than fathers do. Due to the choice of the father. So controlling for that fathers overwhelmingly are the more dangerous sex when caregiving: https://childprotectionresource.online/mothers-are-more-likely-to-abuse-children-than-fathers-fact/ http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/statistics.html "Thus, the adjusted likelihood that a man…
/r/MensRights14/12/20 12:57 AM
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No until the child is born it is ABSOLUTELY about HER body. You can't force her to incubate your child. That argument of "close your legs" doesn't work bc again, she can chose whether she wants to go through pregnancy and childbirth. I linked SEVERAL studies and legal papers as proof. I didn't "appeal to authority." You just want to ignore the links. If he was underage then that is complicated. A baby exists regardless. So why aren't fathers stepping up then? Why are they leaving the childcare u…
/r/MensRights14/12/20 12:38 AM
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And here is your proof about false rape accusations https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/
/r/MensRights13/12/20 11:54 PM
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Stories aren't laws. You need to state which laws exactly. Child custody courts do not favor women, that's a myth. Your link explains that lol! The default in every state is 50/50 then adjusted according to the situation. They look at what's best for the child not the parents and continue the status quo within the marriage. And within the marriage mothers are doing more childcare and housework even when they work the same amount of hours. 90% of cases are decided outside of court where the fathe…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 11:27 PM
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Lol how exactly do the laws favor women?? That doesn't make any damn sense and no, you haven't "proved" it
/r/MensRights13/12/20 10:02 PM
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Women: A large amount of men (who are much stronger than us and harder to defend ourselves against) are killing and raping us. This is an serious issue women are facing in society and is partly due to the cultural devaluation of women. Men: Doesn't matter, you guys are pRiViLeGeD. Some men are killing and raping other men too so you should focus on the men that were killed instead despite that not having the same cause and despite the fact that you aren't in a position to fix our issues, other m…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 08:34 AM
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Huh?? It seems like you are saying that because the laws that were created by men for men and privileged men have changed that women no longer face barriers. Which is complete nonsense. Or are you asking about women's history of legal rights? What is your point here exactly? Men don't have amazing lives compared to women bc they are men. Some women are doing better than some men. But men as a gender (not every individual man compared to every individual woman) objectively face societal advantage…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 08:18 AM
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No, men don't. Men don't face the same barriers leaving an abusive relationship women do. They are not murdered and seriously injured in abusive relationships. (Or very rarely). It is a very common experience of women. That is my entire point, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to mention it. Are you being purposefully obtuse? No. Prison is not relevant bc and only bc it is outside society as I said. Don't twist my words. NO ONE has any privilege in prison. THAT is why it isn't relevant. Does this…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 07:50 AM
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The misogyny in your comment accusing women of "crying wolf" proves what I'm saying!! Lol Yes, I will edit my comment including the fact that false rape accusations are extremely rare but of course all over the media when it happens. But the media doesn't report the rapes going on daily. Hmm I wonder why. Stay tuned. No they don't live in the same reality. Go into a women focused sub, read the stories. If you believe them even though they're women. No, privileges in society are very obviously no…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 07:32 AM
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I'd argue being hospitalized, or murdered by your partner or both and not being able to escape a DV situation is not an "artificial distinction" but a pretty fucking important distinction as it's a HUGE problem that women face and men don't. lol It matters that prison rape isn't included bc I am talking about the differences in risk we face in our everyday lives due to gender, not risk you face after you've commited a crime and are placed outside of society. Of course you have increased risk of …
/r/MensRights13/12/20 07:16 AM
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If it didn't exist, than the constitution wouldn't have had to be ammended several times to recognize women as legal people and give them the same rights men had. Cultural misogyny wouldn't exist. Lol. There would be no history of women slowly gaining legal rights. Culture changes much, much slower than the laws. Women currently are fighting for social and political equality which we don't have. We already fought for legal equality. I'm dumbfounded by your comment. How old are you? And that isn'…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 07:00 AM
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Again, I am speaking of the U.S. In the U.S almost all leadership positions are filled with men. I have no clue what is going on in Canada. You can't just look at outcome and say things are unfair, that isn't why we have them for women. We have them for women bc they were literally excluded from all of it and then when the law changed men still stereotyped her as incompetent. When the laws changed for blacks this didn't change overnight either. There will never be equal representation of men and…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 06:45 AM
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You comment is so seriously ignorant and blind to women's experiences and history itself I don't even want to respond as your ignorance speaks for itself. Everything I wrote is backed up by studies. Again, you are BLIND. Women live in a parallel reality to you that you can't see and you won't listen and hello BELIEVE US?? I was raped and wasn't believed. They can't do anything unless you have evidence, what are you talking about? Have you ever reported a rape? No? Then you have no clue what you'…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 06:28 AM
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Those aren't preferential bc they are only in place to try and correct male preferential hiring and males being preferentially selected for scholarships which is objectively true as it is men at the top making the decisions. The existence of women's scholarships don't take away from men. Men have an enormous amount of scholarships available and they still are preferentially selected for the scholarships available to both sexes. Hence, women's scholarships. They are separate and have to be earned…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 06:12 AM
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How is it irrelevant? I am responding DIRECTLY to someone's comment. Being less likely to experience rape and serious DV that kills you or makes you homeless is one of the privileges of being male. Have u forgotten the conversation?
/r/MensRights13/12/20 05:53 AM
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There is a huge difference in type of domestic violence that results in women being much, much more likely to experience serious injury. Men aren't financially abused and physically kept from leaving the house the way women are. They are significantly less likely to be hospitalized and/killed by their abuser. 80% of homeless women are there bc of DV. Men are not homeless due to DV. Every two hours a woman is killed by her male partner or ex partner. 80% of all serious family violence is commited…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 05:38 AM
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Men are objectively and significantly less likely to be raped and to become victims of domestic violence. When they are victims of violence it is overwhelming bc of other men.
/r/MensRights13/12/20 05:18 AM
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Privileges: Not facing institutionalized sexism No discrimination due to gender when applying for jobs/are preferentially hired. Similarly, when you are hired people won't tell you it was bc of your gender. Assumed competent until proven otherwise. Believed. Are the default and aren't "othered" like women are. Has not been historically oppressed due to gender. More opportunities for high paying jobs. No barriers due to gender when working toward leadership positions. Benefits from the "boy's clu…
/r/MensRights13/12/20 05:01 AM
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Only women have been oppressed solely due to gender and no other reason. Oppression means being denied the same civil rights that another group has and being kept out of positions of power. Women were treated as property of men (called chattel, similar to a slave but with a few more rights like she couldn't be sold except for the marriage exchange between her father and husband) and had no civil rights until the 14th ammendment. Blacks are oppressed bc they were denied civil rights and subjected…
/r/MensRights12/12/20 11:00 PM
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Show me an example where ANY feminists are saying that individual men are oppressing individual women. They don't exist bc that is SO obviously complete nonsense. Men as a gender are not blamed. But men in power DO continue thier "boy's club" at the top and do discriminate against women. Cultural misogyny and a "boys will be boys" mentality allows the men who treat women as lesser or as objects to continue to do so with impunity. Notice I didn't say all men. I said "the men who..." There are a l…
/r/MensRights12/12/20 10:09 PM
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Feminism doesn't blame individual men or men as a gender for their problems lol Why do you think that? Men AND women continue our current patriarchal system. Women complaining about the entitlement of men (something they are socialized to have) and the harrassment they experience for existing have a right to do so. That IS different. Feminists don't believe individual men are oppressing individual women. They are against a current system in place that sees women as second class citizens. It's hi…
/r/MensRights11/12/20 08:10 PM
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Really? Have you talked to the others bc in my experience here, most bizarrely deny a patriarchy even exists. "Find a job, a wife and kids" is not mandated. That isn't a script created by society, the human condition is to work for men AND women. We have to contribute to society in order to access the protections of society. Having kids is biology, and objectively the only purpose of our existence. That being said freedom and choice is the goal, you can choose not to take a wife and have childre…
/r/MensRights11/12/20 08:54 AM
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You guys finally getting some much needed self awareness? Good. It does sound familar as moral elitism ("women's hypersexuality and lack of virginity is ruining society") a lack of empathy (misogyny all over this sub), need for recognition (you percieve women discussing their issues and bringing attention to them as taking away from attention on you and taking away from you in general), and rumination (pent up anger toward women and society and spending a bunch of time here complaining) is prett…
/r/MensRights11/12/20 04:33 AM
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Women are more harshly judged by the public when they commit crime and it almost always makes the news. Women who kill their partners (rare) also get 10-15 years on average while men who kill their female partner (every two hours in the U.S) get 5-7 on average. False rape accusations are rare but they make the news. If we reported every time a man murdered or raped someone the news would never end. In the U.S (link shows stats for 2012) men commit 88% of murder, 99% of rape, 87% of robbery, 78% …
/r/MensRights11/12/20 04:14 AM
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You have to look at the sample, methods and the controls. And I can't see anything and you didn't actually read it. Yes, there is a gender discrepancy. I am telling you it is not due to "misandry." You know there is a saying: "When you're used to privilege, others increasing equality with you feels like oppression." I see this all over this sub. Women gain an inch and men see it as a threat taking away from them. Women can't talk about their experiences without men demanding we bring the attenti…
/r/MensRights07/12/20 01:12 AM
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I can't read it, only the abstract. Did you even read it? If you can actually access it you need to post the mirror. Otherwise don't post studies you can't even see lol. Plus that is literally one state. Edit :We actually judge female criminals more harshly. That doesn't mean that gender stereotypes don't benefit women sometimes. The fact that they commit less crime does make people see them as less threatening when they do. https://journalistsresource.org/studies/government/criminal-justice/cou…
/r/MensRights07/12/20 12:56 AM
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Majority of judges are men. Literally 73% are men. Lol What study controlling for crime? You haven't actually linked one. You can't just make stuff up. In fact I'm convinced that you and others here are relying on readers not fact checking sources or even reading the links. I just linked proof 73% are men. And yet you have no issue just making something up to support a view that is not based in reality. I get actually reading the links and questioning things isn't the strong point of people here…
/r/MensRights07/12/20 12:40 AM
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That article is not about the gender pay gap. So no, you can't prove it's "blatantly wrong" as proving the pay gap isn't the point nor what it is trying to do. It's briefly mentioned. Nor have you proved shit in your comment lol What you quoted literally supports the conclusion that they are leaving bc of the chores discrepancy and NOT those other factors. That other quote you took completely out of context. Because it asks if that is the reason then answers the question later with a "no." Why d…
/r/MensRights07/12/20 12:23 AM
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I'm assuming you're young. I think so many of you are SO YOUNG and sheltered have no sense of history. It's difficult for you to see the experiences of others and put them in the proper context. I'll start with the portrayal of men in sitcoms. The trope was comedic only because it portrays men as the opposite of how they are viewed in society. It is called an inversion similar to the "magical and wise negro" trope. Men are viewed as more competent than women and in charge. Hence the comedy of re…
/r/MensRights06/12/20 11:39 PM
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Stop discouraging people from seeing information outside of your disturbing echo chamber. Everything I am saying is factual, reasonable and backed up by evidence. You clearly don't understand the definition of troll. It is NOT okay to shield people from info outside of your propaganda cult. That is not good for you or society as whole. You need to recognize the value of discussion and seeing views outside of your own biases instead of slandering someone and dismissing them all because you are th…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 10:55 PM
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I've literally never mentioned Saudi Arabia ever in this sub. You must think I'm someone else?? I talk about women's experiences in the U.S bc I have personal experience with it. Ofc I'm aware of the status of women in other countries as well. I have no idea what you're talking about Men were not property bc they were men. But bc they were poor. That isn't discrimination due to gender. Only women experienced discrimination due to gender alone and no other reason. NO women had rights only due to …
/r/MensRights05/12/20 09:11 PM
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Are you real? The gender pay gap is not the point. The point is exactly what it states along with the other articles and studies lol. That women are doing more work within the home and outside the home, the other studies show it's the primary reason they initiate divorce. The point of mentioning the pay gap is to say that women still doing the work at home is contributing to that bc they take on more responsibilities than men do and can't devote as much time to their careers. Bc men still feel e…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 06:20 AM
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The study referenced in the write up is linked. The Atlantic study specifically states that even when women are the breadwinners and/or working the same hours as the men they still do the majority of the housework and childcare. I LITERALLY quoted that part in my earlier comment. And again, the studies are linked. Since the 70s when women did ALL the work, the gap has narrowed. But it has not closed and THAT is the point. They STILL do the majority. Women are still held back by this. How can wom…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 06:05 AM
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Most divorces in the U.S. are initiated by women. Posted Aug 13, 2020 "She Divorced Me Because I Left Dishes by the Sink" is the title of a 2016 blog post by Matthew Fray about the ending of his marriage in divorce in 2013. Fray described how every time his wife walked into the kitchen, she found his drinking glass by the sink—inches from the dishwasher. He realized, too late, that he left almost all of the household chores and child-care to his wife. article continues after advertisement Most d…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 05:50 AM
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Yes they do. Did you read them all?? The study says women do more than their share of household chores and childcare even when they are the breadwinners and work more hours. I literally quoted that lol Over 60% of divorces are women initiated. The "second shift" is the number one cited reason they leave. And yes, those links say just that. I don't understand why your reading comprehension is that bad. I'm very confused, they literally say exactly that lol
/r/MensRights05/12/20 05:35 AM
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Well, that's one guy. My son's Dad is a good Dad and I've been with amazing men. But yeah, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing and I was naive enough to fall for it unfortunately.
/r/MensRights05/12/20 04:55 AM
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Did...you read my comment??? Lol BIG difference between having been a victim in your life and making being a victim as your entire identity. Something the men in this sub have a problem with doing and project onto everyone else. Why else would someone be so obsessed with "female privilege??"
/r/MensRights05/12/20 04:38 AM
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Being a "victim" is something that happens to you in individual situations. And yes, broadly I am the victim of sexism due to my gender. That is an inescapable fact of my life and definitely is not a choice of mine lol What I do not do however, is identify as a victim. If I did why would I keep fighting to be educated and get out of my situation? Why would I work for that? That story is about overcoming adversity. Adversity ALL women face at some point in their lives due to gender alone. There i…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 04:23 AM
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Lol!! Yeah those are very broad categories. What do you think the "conflict/arguing" is about??? Lol you have to look at the studies that go deeper than broad categories and look at WHAT the arguments were about. The number one reason under the conflict category? Men not doing their share of the housework and childcare. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/marriage-equals/202008/husbands-how-avoid-being-divorced-your-wife https://www.jstor.org/stable/353814 https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/a…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 04:08 AM
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Let me tell you a story. How about my 1st job was at Subway. I was 18 and needed it bc I was homeless (where was all the help supposedly there all bc I'm a women??) My boss offered to give me a ride to the church I was sleeping in (I lied about why I was going there). He drove to a secluded area and tried to rape me. I got out of the car, ran and never looked back. I was mostly pissed bc now I didn't have a job unless I wanted to go face my would-be rapist. And who the fuck would even believe me…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 03:45 AM
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What feminist dogma? I don't even know any academic feminism. And he has a good Dad. Very involved father.
/r/MensRights05/12/20 03:30 AM
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/42924466 https://www.history.com/topics/womens-history/womens-history-us-timeline https://www.hrw.org/topic/womens-rights https://www.ilo.org/washington/areas/gender-equality-in-the-workplace/WCMS_159496/lang--en/index.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_inequality_in_the_United_States 14th Amendment: Simplified Summary - HISTORY Where the fuck did you guys go to school?? Do I think all individual men are responsible for oppressing women? Fuck no, of course not …
/r/MensRights05/12/20 02:58 AM
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So taking on responsibilities is "oppression." Got it lol grow up
/r/MensRights05/12/20 02:41 AM
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BTW I NEVER "trashed" men for marrying for looks. That's perfectly fine lol. You assume it bothers me because YOU feel entitled to a relationship but I don't. You completely missed the point. The point was that they were getting something out of it, it was about THEM not "looking past her financial situation because men are just so kind" LMFAO. Yeah, right. Men value status less because they value other qualities like looks MORE. You can't be upset and claim it's oppressing poor men all bc women…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 02:21 AM
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Everyone participates in perpetuating these gender roles whether we are aware of it or not. Also do fathers not exist?? Lol Do women not see their fathers act as if they are the most important member of the household? Because that is exactly what I and many other women and men watched growing up
/r/MensRights05/12/20 01:11 AM
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The state of the homeless veterans though is urgent and disgusting. I disagree it's all bc they have a penis but that is a gendered issue. Also I have a science degree in biopsych and stats, I am not familiar with much academic feminism. So I don't know what you mean by that. But I do know the info you get here is half truths and stats twisted to support conclusions they don't. It's objectively propaganda..so maybe you should get info from somewhere beside this train wreck of a sub which is full…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 12:45 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about?? I never said women shouldn't be with men that make less. I said they have a difficult time when they make more because the men are so fragile it effects their self esteem and entire marriage. That has nothing to do with her. Way to twist my words. Do I think some women are socialized to think men should make more? Yes. That is a problem, sure. I don't think they should treat men less due to income and I'm not saying that. All I'm saying is there are two side…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 12:27 AM
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There is no draft in the U.S and are you going to ignore all the women currently in the military? How about the women who lobbied congress for the right to go fight in the world war 2 and WON and died. Or are you going to pretend the single working mothers at home were having a great time? Or the victims of war time rape? Lol Un no actually I won't. I don't identity as a "victim" but I do understand women's history and the way our gender as a whole has been victims due to hatred and discriminati…
/r/MensRights05/12/20 12:05 AM
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Again sources? So what was the point of the 14th and 19th ammendments? You know the one where blacks and women were finally legally recognized as people who are entitled to the same rights men had in the constitution? Women being the property of their fathers and husband's and not being able to vote was privilege?? The cultural misogyny and push backs against blacks and women were because we were privileged?? What drugs are you on?? Some women having internalized misogyny and believing their pla…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 11:45 PM
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Oh! So now men DID have rights and women didn't lol I see. And they were not legal persons but their husbands property? So you admit a "mensrights" movement makes zero sense as men have always had rights?? Men were never denied rights for being men, admit it. Most of your problems are economic and have zero to do with being oppressed due to gender. I'm pretty sure the constitution encoding your default rights that will never be taken away means men have rights and always have. Omg so oppressed!!…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 11:29 PM
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I am referring to studies where the men themselves say that is exactly why they date "down." These are the results of studies, it isn't an opinion I have. lol Nor does it mean I have issues with men because I am repeating the results of several studies showing why successful women have a hard time dating. And again, just because the solution isn't settle doesn't mean I have a problem with men. Everyone likes companionship but it's better to be alone than to settle. You can have a rich social lif…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 11:14 PM
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/42924466 https://www.times-standard.com/2006/08/10/womens-legal-personhood-and-the-19th-amendment/ This paper is called "women's path to legal personhood." LOL Were you dropped on your head? I swear the U.S needs an education reform, did you all skip history and American government class? Or are you in a different country?? So explain the 14th amendment that legally recognized women as people and gave them rights? What about the 19th ammendment? I thought women alway…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 10:58 PM
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No you idiot I am not comparing women's history to Jewish history. Check your reading comprehension. I am comparing you to others that deny written history. Holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers, etc. The thing in common is the idiots denying objective history and falling for propaganda, not the actual experiences you moron. Explain the 14th amendment then? You know because white men's rights were default in the constitution and women and blacks weren't recognized as legal people? They couldn't own pr…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 10:43 PM
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A wealthy man will marry a poor ATTRACTIVE woman. And they are okay with that only because their ego is threatened by a successful woman. And studies I have posted here already back me up. Most men are too fragile have a women more successful than them and the women specifically cited that as an issue when dating. Men don't want them if they're more successful because they want to feel in control of her and not have their egos threatened. But I LOVE how you pretend it's bc of how benevolent thos…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 10:20 PM
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That is a lie that women's scholarships take away from men's scholarships. They don't and they're separate. Abortion is not opting out of responsibility. It is having choice over whether you are willing to sacrifice your body and risk your life giving birth. That is different and that is the right to bodily autonomy NOT to "not be a mother." Once the baby is born she can't abandon the child either!! She is MORE responsible for them than you!! Stop seeing abortion as "opting out" like the pregnan…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 10:05 PM
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Women still face significant barriers that are apparently completely invisible to you. Because you live in a parallel reality, it's funny how you guys all project onto others EXACTLY what you're doing! Claiming I have no compassion for members not of my "group?" I don't define myself by my group first of all, second that is objectively what you guys do here. Deny and refuse to believe and see the experiences of women. Along with denying objective written history. Lol The lack of self awareness i…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 09:49 PM
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How in the world could you twist my words this badly? You have a very disturbing lens in which you view the world and interpret things. No. That's not it, at all. I can't comprehend how the fuck you interpreted what I said like that?? No. There is no special consideration you think women are hoarding for themselves lmfao. That is batshit INSANE. it is OFFENSIVE. What there is limited supply of, are programs and resources that are there to assist women's equality. The reason women's sports schola…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 09:50 AM
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They were not allowed to own property and the man had complete legal and social control over her lol. They along with black people were not acknowledged as people deserving of rights. The constitution literally only named men (white men) as legal U.S citizens. Women LITERALLY had no rights. That's why we couldn't vote. Black people and women were granted rights with the 14th amendment. Men have ALWAYS had default rights. Women and blacks fought for rights bc we actually didn't have them. Also th…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 09:34 AM
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Dude. No it isn't. Read a history book lol https://www.history.com/topics/womens-history/womens-history-us-timeline That's like denying the holocaust and telling a Jewish person to prove it happened lol They are not beliefs. It is objective history. You can't just twist reality. Not to mention the lived experiences of women daily. Fucking nuts. Why is it that women's experience is so invisible to you? My judgment?? What in fuck are you talking about? Are you 15? That makes NO sense. Does your Mo…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 09:18 AM
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Seriously?? How old are you? https://www.unwomen.org/en/news/in-focus/csw61/remove-the-barriers#:~:text=In%20both%20private%20and%20public,to%20cultural%20mindsets%20and%20stereotypes. https://ideas.ted.com/one-invisible-barrier-holding-back-women-at-work-the-conformity-bind/ https://www.economist.com/business/2020/03/05/women-still-face-barriers-in-the-workplace https://www.trainingindustry.com/magazine/issue/gender-barriers-and-solutions-to-leadership/ https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insight…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 08:58 AM
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Huh?? It's both. I have given you so much evidence but then you wanted it from Roger's mouth so I link his manifesto and you refuse to watch it so you can pretend it's not real?? Lol I did my part, read and watch the video. In one of the links it talks about the other killings. Fucking read it and watch it Because women with the same fucking degree make less https://time.com/transgender-men-sexism/ So that study about how transmens lives get easier but transwomen suddenly deal with daily sexism …
/r/MensRights04/12/20 08:43 AM
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It's a youtube video directly from him. Sorry I am not transcribing it for you. And just because you refuse to watch it doesn't mean it isn't real lol. So education is not a good in and of itself?? An education is NOT just to get a job. The humanities is extremely important lol You sound like an idiot Freedom for women is a step down?? Lol That's the issue. You guys are so privileged and have never been excluded from anything or experienced true sexism that you don't understand what a privilege …
/r/MensRights04/12/20 07:54 AM
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Also I'd LOVE for you to be a stay at home Dad who is actually on top of shit then get back to me. It was harder than my current job and was 24/7 and extremely isolating. My son's Dad even agreed after a he spent one week alone with our son at home that it was the harder role especially with multiple children. And the stay at home parent is usually working more hours at home than the one working outside. There are no days off. You must be a teenager and not understand the demands of household ma…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 07:34 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000002900707/youtube-video-retribution.html https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Findex%3D2%26list%3DPL2F_8EKA9Mq1hiIHf3oJ8YB4QCReroT8i%26v%3D7ueXSePMeq0&ved=2ahUKEwiKwcu14bPtAhVQsZ4KHaPAD0cQt9IBMBd6BAgZEAw&usg=AOvVaw1h88qz4ug3HoV80bPvOYGF That is a youtube video Rodgers made about why he killed those women. He was involved in the "manosphere." In fact, incels and redpillers practically worshiped him afterwards. It …
/r/MensRights04/12/20 07:18 AM
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Women were the sole cargivers of the children then. THAT is why. So yes. Of course they wanted to be with their kids. But they still wanted to do their part. Why did women fight to go to combat then?? Because they did. And they are the victims of war time rape and held down all the jobs while the men were gone- then had to give them back. Even now there are issues with the physical capabilities of women in combat positions. They do well in the military but women have a hard time meeting physical…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 07:03 AM
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Dude. Read again. Elliot Rodgers himself cited being involved in the incel, Redpill and MRA subs and literally said it was the reason he killed those girls. So all those sources are making that up? Lol YOU'RE IN DENIAL. "Unfounded" LMFAO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings YES. Divorce is mostly initiated by women LOL. Want to know why? Because men aren't doing their share of the housework and childcare even though the parents were working the same hours. The man expects her t…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 06:48 AM
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What studies? Look through my comment history, I've linked how women are working more than men and doing more childcare and housework when both parents work. What else do you need? You don't think pregnancy and childbirth and caring for an infant sets women back? You don't think workplaces discriminate against her for having family responsibilities and can't devote as much time to work? It's not hard to figure out. The goal of feminism is for women to gave the same political and social equality …
/r/MensRights04/12/20 06:32 AM
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Studies show that men feel lesser if she makes more. THAT is why they are not okay with it lol. So they can feel in control and like "a man." Not bc he's so nice he doesn't care lol It's ALL about his ego. Every study out there shows men naming looks as their number one value while women list intelligence. Not every man obviously but enough. Yes women have a shrinking pool of qualified men to date. It's a problem right now. Here. In these studies the men absolutely don't like women smarter than …
/r/MensRights04/12/20 06:09 AM
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Who said anything about "less masculinity." That makes no sense? Masculinity is NOT bad. Yes we need strong male role models. No one is demonizing masculinity. Feminism has discussed toxic GENDER EXPECTATIONS that effect men, like men being expected not to cry. THAT is toxic masculinity. The definition of toxic masculinity is the toxic gender expectations put on men. I have seen men in this thread complain about those expectations but get mad when feminism directly addresses them lol. Masculinit…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 05:51 AM
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Oh look it is true https://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-extra-unpaid-hours-full-time-jobs/ Where you not in history class when women's suffrage was discussed? So women never lobbied for the vote Lol!! Are you not all there? Talking to some of you is like talking to anti-vaxxers. Just a complete denial of reality lol Also the draft is voluntary in the U.S and in some states both women and men sign up for S.S. Back then women were the primary caregivers- hence they weren't conscripted. They were als…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 05:35 AM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/01/13/women-now-hold-more-jobs-than-men/?sh=6bccde518f8a Because women are not a hivemind they are individuals. Applying logical fallacies and saying things like "all women cheat," "all women are evil" is objectively misogyny and complete nonsense. Women aren't a monolith. So no, they shouldn't spread that hate. Thank God they are separating themselves from women. I care about the recent rise in misogyny evidenced by the "manosphere" on reddit and othe…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 05:20 AM
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Because a women going in a male dominated industry is seen as moving up. A man in a women dominated industry like caregiving or being a stay at home Dad is seen as doing something "lower status." Anything associated when women is seen as "lesser." This obviously has a negative effect on men when they enter traditionally female industries like teaching or caregiving. But despite men initially facing bias in female dominated industries, studies show they eventually BENEFITTED from those biases and…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 04:50 AM
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Right, but then I read a study on men in fields that are primarily female and the men STILL benefited from the stereotypes that men are less able to be caregivers lol. It didn't effect them from moving up at all. PLUS it's cultural misogyny doing that because caregiving is seen as "women's work" and therefore lesser. Men are seen as having higher status. A women in a male dominated industry is seen as stepping up while a man in a women dominated industry is seen as stepping down. And again, I'll…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 04:35 AM
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How are women oppressing men when there are no women in power? Lmfao what?? Women have not had the political or social power to do that to an entire gender, what the fuck are you smoking?? I hate to say this but...Men commit the majority of crime ESPECIALLY violent crime. Kinda awkward but... Recent studies show men and women commiting the exact same crime get the exact same sentence. The problem is it's rarely the same crime and when it is the man did it more violently. That's just the truth. A…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 04:20 AM
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That being said there ARE different kinds of equal. A housewife IS doing equal work. It's actual work, she is contributing to the household and earning her part of the income brought in she is not a "leech." My complaint is the men here pretending like the work at home isn't work and then when women work outside and they don't step up at home then it's justified because "they must be working more hours" lol (They aren't). I'm glad you see that men and women working together to bring down gender …
/r/MensRights04/12/20 04:03 AM
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I am SPECIFICALLY talking about averages shown in studies. When talking about studies and referring to "men" I am VERY obviously referring to the men in these studies which is representative of MOST men bc that is how statistics work. That is NOT the same as generalizing about men. I am giving a FACTUAL statement about the average man that is supported by scientific research. I am not stereotyping men. Just because it doesn't look pretty doesn't mean it's "misandry." It means most men objectivel…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 03:45 AM
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So you understand that women's independence FROM MEN was celebrated while men WERE ALWAYS INDEPENDENT. So what they were seen as having low morals if they didn't want to adopt adult responsibilities and get married? Marriage was a prestigious social institution back then. That isn't bc they were men. There was no double standard because a single women back then was much more ostracized and honestly completely fucked than a single man just like now in 2020 a single woman is more ostracized than a…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 03:25 AM
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That was not because they were men!! Lol This was in the 19th century, and it's bc marriage as an institution was valued. It was seen as proper to have family responsibilities. The other reason men were encouraged to take wives is because women were made to rely on them. A man not marrying a women meant her father was responsible for her for life. WOMEN WERE LITERALLY THE PROPERTY OF MEN. So a single woman was seen as a pariah and a burden when a male bachelor was seen as simply having low moral…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 03:10 AM
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No, but if they decided to clean it up over there I applaud them! My heart goes out to a lot of them bc it seems like they've been hurt by women in the past and are applying it to all women. But the generalizing is not okay and their rhetoric about gold digging women and "divorce rape" is just factually wrong. People laugh because their reasons for going their own way are often absurd and hateful. There was a small group of feminists that "went their own way" in the 60s and generalized men just …
/r/MensRights04/12/20 02:34 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/14/why-more-women-are-working-in-the-us-than-men.html More women than men are working. The current expectation is that both parents work. But women are STILL doing all the work in the home and they are working outside the home more than men. Women are also adjusting to a rapidly changing society much faster than men by going to back to college meaning women are more educated than men. Women are doing more than men so it makes no sense to complain about an expectation…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 01:51 AM
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You should read it too. I'd honestly love a response especially regarding the post complaining about the men in Sweden being too feminine bc they aren't the main "provider" (they aren't in America either btw it's 2020 not 1940. Two incomes are the expectation. It's just men in the U.S aren't helping at home and with the kids like they are in Sweden. Because you can't be free from a provider role but not take on work in the home. No one has a free ride, especially not women bc work at home is WOR…
/r/MensRights04/12/20 12:13 AM
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Link your studies. Except the studies I'm talking about show when parents work EQUAL hours women are doing the vast majority of work within the home including child care. It doesn't matter if men are working more hours, the reasons why are obvious. Mothers are discriminated against. If you don't want to be a provider than you HAVE to work within the ho3me while she works outside or you both work outside (current norm) and both work within the home. You can't have your cake and eat it too. No one…
/r/MensRights03/12/20 11:58 PM
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Studies show MEN won't marry women they see as more intelligent than them. Women specifically look for intelligence over everything else. Guess what men look for? Looks (surprise, surprise lol). So this "why won't women marry down" bullshit (like they have to lol) goes BOTH ways. Men are so fragile they feel emasculated if she happens to be smart and have a good career lol. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-smart-women-may-threaten-your-manhood-2015-10-16 The role within the home was FORCED …
/r/MensRights03/12/20 11:24 PM
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I have argued with so many men here trying to convince them their oppression is economic and they insist that women and feminism are the cause of their issues, which is obviously laughable and bizarre. I can screen shot these convos, most men are here bc they have issues with women. They DO blame feminism. If they actually wanted to rise against current societal norms and the MEN in power, they'd talk about that and work with feminists to dismantle gender norms caused by patriarchy. But look thr…
/r/MensRights03/12/20 09:53 PM
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Because until recently a lot of women were forced to depend on men for their livelihood. Hence, the celebration of independent women. Also, independent isn't "not in a relationship." It just means self reliant. Ironically, one of your talking points is women "leeching off men." Now we have more women working full time than men and they are still doing the majority of childcare and housework. The number one cause of divorce initiated by women is men not doing their part in the home despite her wo…
/r/MensRights03/12/20 09:36 PM
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You're in this sub and I can see your comments here. So yes, I do know your belief system lol
/r/MensRights02/12/20 10:03 PM
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What in the hell are you talking about? You realize I can see EVERYONE'S comments in this thread, not just those that reply to me? I responded directly to your comment understanding fully that we have not spoken previously. I was reading through this thread and saw your comment and responded to it. What man hating subs? How tf are my comments "man-hating?" If you think my comments constitute hating men than you have a victim complex you need to work on. What echo chamber am I in? You know litera…
/r/MensRights02/12/20 01:36 AM
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No I absolutely didn't. You are completely free to want a virgin and have that right. It is not okay for you to expect ALL women to be virgins all bc YOU want that. Do you understand? It's not "rigged" against men bc there is no system in place when it comes to human dating, just laws regarding normal protections like against rape. What do mean men aren't "allowed." Who stops them?? No one.
/r/MensRights01/12/20 03:34 PM
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Are...are you saying ALL women treat their partners badly?? Women don't have the political power to systemically oppress men. You can't oppress someone by not wanting to fuck them. Love and relationships aren't "deals." You can't apply that logic to men and women's relationships. Honest question though, are you autistic? That isn't an insult, but your comments are...it just seems like you don't understand how the dating and social world works and you seem to think you're entitled to marry the ty…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 03:17 PM
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Women don't have a right to marry ANYONE. And they can marry whoever the fuck they want. That man is choosing to marry her too, he doesn't have to. No one has to lower their own standards for anyone else. WTF does that even mean?? WOMEN DON'T EXIST FOR MEN. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. Similarly, MGTOW are not doing anything to women. They are making a choice they have a right to make. Women aren't entitled to their sexual attention, not that they'd want it but still. By your logic, MGTOW are opp…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 03:00 PM
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Wat?? It is NOT less of a self esteem boost to be asked out than to ask a man out and have him say yes. It's the same. Men do get sexual attention from women, they do get asked out. What do you mean, women don't have to do that it make YOU feel good about yourself. You don't have to ask a woman out to make her feel good about herself. Your self esteem is not the responsibility of women. Seriously, that is some fucked up thinking on your part. YOU are responsible for your feelings and sense of se…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 02:45 PM
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Men in charge of the system that deny someone their rights need to change it. So yes? Because those are the only people who can lol. Don't you want those same men in charge to make changes for YOU? Men do need to change it. And so do all the women that perpetuate a patriarchal society. And there are many, unfortunately. But it's definitely men that have excluded women and created it the 1st place. Women haven't had the power to do that. But wtf do you even mean?? Women fighting for equal rights …
/r/MensRights01/12/20 02:29 PM
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How old are you? Again, people have a right not to be exploited. Not being asked on a date because someone else doesn't want to is not being exploited or denied something you have a right to. You have no right to sexual attention and neither do women. No one does nor should they bc that involves infringing on someone else's right to date who they want and how they want. You don't have a right to expolit workers bc it's your business. That infringes on THEIR rights. In your own analogy YOU are th…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 02:14 PM
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Here, I'll spell it out in a way that makes it all about you than maybe it'll click. If every man decided to stop asking women out and basically force them to make the first move if they want to date you then you have a right to do that. You have a right to autonomy. Especially if you have good reasons for not making the first move, like making the first move disadvantage you in some way. Most of society looks down on women being too "aggressive and desperate" by asking men out. Some women don't…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 01:57 PM
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Are you 15? Seriously. Your "logic" makes no sense. At all. I understood his point perfectly. I disagree this is a biological point that has to change, just for the benefit of men not having to ask someone on a date, especially when doing so is at her disadvantage. If your "right" involves coercing the other gender into romantically pursuing you against her free will than it isn't a right. Being romantically pursued is not a right. It is not comparable to abortion which is the right to bodily au…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 01:41 PM
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It's inequality bc you guys view women working in the home as not working, but still think she should hold two jobs when she enters the workforce. If you want equality, you need to do your part. That's the point. Also women aren't putting up with it. They are divorcing them en mass. It's the number one cause of women initiated divorce currently. So yes, women have the freedom not to put up with their bullshit and they aren't.
/r/MensRights01/12/20 11:32 AM
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It is very simple to look at maternal mortality rates during childbirth. It's also very simple to see other sources that shows you guys are mostly ignorant teens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_maternal_mortality_ratio As for the rest of comment, it makes zero sense. Do you not understand passing out due to blood loss and realizing you're dying? If you got shot and were bleeding out and feeling cold and losing consciousness, you'd hopefully not be so dumb that you wouldn't un…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 10:50 AM
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How is the fact that more men ask women out than women asking men not equality?? Equality is freedom not sameness. Women are not forbidden to ask men out lol. Also, I'd like you to explain how tf I defended traditional gender roles?? How do traditional gender roles not negatively effect women? That comment literally explained exactly how traditional gender roles hurt women. Bc women have entered the workforce but still have to do all the work at home. How in God's name does that benefit women?? …
/r/MensRights01/12/20 10:34 AM
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Yes, there are studies done on the movement, the majority of you are freaking teenagers. 87% of you are teens. Which is why I post here, bc there is still hope for them. The few middle age men are too far gone in my view, too much hatred. You guys are being radicalized. Pregnancy is hard for HEALTHY women. Even more so for unhealthy women. Being healthy doesn't take away 90% of the risks of childbirth and pregnancy. I am very healthy, weigh 115 before and after childbirth and almost bled to deat…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 10:19 AM
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Lol dude. You are literally radicalized by propaganda. Your argument is the exact same one anti-vaxxers use. That you have the real research and everyone else is "oppressing" you by providing you with actual facts. My information is from actual recent studies and a real education. What is this "feminazi" shit? What does that mean?? You are telling people to stay in a very harmful echo chamber. Stop doing that. Your self awareness is so fucking low it's painful. You're projecting your own issues …
/r/MensRights01/12/20 10:04 AM
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Right, bc a healthy women can't have a hard pregnancy and/or die during childbirth. So ignorant. So women who died in childbirth and were sick for 9 months did it to themselves?? Pregnancy is hard for the healthiest women and bleeding to death during childbirth (or any number of things going wrong) can happen to any women no matter how healthy. Some problems are caused by the mother and baby having a different blood type. I just can't with you guys, take a fucking human sexuality course since yo…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 09:49 AM
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Wtf is that edit. More easily marry up? What does that mean?? Do we suddenly have arranged marriages here?? Wpmen are not freed from gender roles. More women than men are working AND raising children. How are women free from taking care of children? Women have dress codes at work lol and often have to wear painful heels. Not working means working in the home. Still hard work. It's 2020 though. Women work full time and do the majority of housework and childcare bc men aren't steeping the fuck up …
/r/MensRights01/12/20 09:33 AM
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Wait what??? How in the world does not asking certain men out equal treating an entire gender as "lesser." What it means is that sex is more risky for women, so they are choosier with who they have sex with and have less sex. Therefore, demand will also exceed supply when it comes to men. That is not something women are choosing to do in order to hurt men. It isn't about you. It's about protecting themselves which if you weren't aware, women are allowed to care about their health and safety over…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 08:07 AM
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Also https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160414114249.htm#:~:text=Neonatal%20circumcision%20does%20not%20reduce,widely%20accepted%20beliefs%20--%20ScienceDaily&text=New%3A,to%20Cut%20COVID-19%20Spread Circumcision doesn't reduce sexual pleasure
/r/MensRights01/12/20 05:50 AM
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It shouldn't matter but this is bothering me so much, I have to emphasize that the male equivalent of FGM (which again, is happening in the states) would be if you were held down between the ages of 3-12 and having your entire penis cut off in a home, with no anesthesia by someone not a Dr. with a random knife, all so you can please a man you'll be given to by being penetrated and not being able to get pleasure from it. Then your asshole gets sewn up to make sure only one man has you. THAT would…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 05:23 AM
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I honestly appreciate your politeness so much and of course I agree men have issues that effect them disportionately. What the movement has identified as the cause (feminism) and the way they've denied women's oppression and the rampant misogyny here is the problem I have. I fully agree with and support the raising awareness of men's issues. I also disagree with the straw man version of feminism and the major misunderstanding of what it even is and especially that academic feminism (feminists th…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 04:12 AM
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What cultural misandry? Name ONE example. Because anytime men get any shit on it's bc what they're doing is seen as "feminine." Because it's women that are hated, not men. Is the man a stay at home Dad? Too "womanly." In a women dominated field? Same, it's "lesser." Does he like "girly" stuff? Is he fat? Well he has "man-boobs." Abused? Weak, like a woman. Cries a lot? Emotional, like a woman. I literally can't think of any way gender roles imposed on men (that yes, effect them negatively) is no…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 03:21 AM
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You don't think I struggled to educate myself and get a job?? I exist in a society that requires me to make money as well lol. In fact I grew up in a fundie cult that didn't allow women to be educated. I was kicked out at 17, struggled on minimum wage and took years at cc to make up for my educational neglect. Because I'm a women. I actually experienced oppression bc of my gender and no other reason. You have not. Providing for a family is the responsibility of men AND women, whether it's within…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 02:51 AM
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What prililege?? What privilege do women have anywhere except more dating options? Of course men take on responsibilities in the home. But not enough of them. And that's issue. Men are not CHOOSING to. Some women have better lives than some men. Of course. That doesn't mean women as a gender are not oppressed due to gender and gender alone. Some black people are doing better than some white people. There was a black president, does that mean they're equal? Does that mean blacks aren't oppressed …
/r/MensRights01/12/20 02:35 AM
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More women are working full time than men. Literally households can't survive without two incomes. Women are working full time and doing the majority of housework and childcare at the same time. Women are doing more than men lol so what is this "provider" nonsense. Is raising children and housework not a 24/7 job?? It's work. Hard work, mundane work with no break. What do you imagine women's lives are like?? Have you ever met a women in your life? Or even listened to her? Your comment is so incr…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 02:07 AM
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Did you seriously just compare the rape and murder of women to men asking women out more than women ask them out?? I...speechless honestly. When babies are incubated in artificial wombs and women are safe on dates with strange men, and STDS don't disportionately effect women among straight men and women (being penetrated makes women more prone to getting them from men than transmitting to men and STDS have more serious effects on her body) then yes, women should take the initiative if they want.…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 01:50 AM
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The reason less men are employed right now is bc the fields going overseas are largely male dominated like manufacturing and automation is putting the working class out of work. More men are in those fields than women bc women were not welcomed in those fields. If you understood your problems are economic and with the fucked up class system you could fix it but apparently it's women's fault?? How? Take responsibility for yourselves and your life. Rise against your true oppressor- MEN in power. N…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 01:09 AM
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What do you mean they think they'll lose? How is that an excuse for not being in your child's life? Most parents don't fight for custody in court they want the other parent to be in the child's life. Settled out of court means there is no disagreement in custody. She has more bc he wanted her too. Again, when he seeks more custody he gets it more than women seeking full custody and most judges and lawyers are men. I'm not even going to address most of your comment bc not only have I already in p…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 12:54 AM
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What? More women than men are working full time, are educated and have careers. But studies show they still do the majority of the child care and housework while working full time like he does. What decade are you living in?? Children are blessings but are very obviously a consequence of sex and they are hard. Pregnancy is hard. Childbirth is hard. Women also have financial consequences. The point is there is no consequence unique to men and the one consequence they have comes from the law. You …
/r/MensRights01/12/20 12:37 AM
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Risking health by getting an abortion (I almost died from hemorrhaging after the pill abortion), sacrificing their body during pregnancy which is not trivial and has emotional as well as physical costs, risking their lives giving birth, (U.S has one of the highest mortality rates for childbirth in the world) raising the kid, financially supporting them or going through the pregnancy and birth plus the trauma of adoption aren't consequences??? LMFAO. Dude! You have literally ZERO natural conseque…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 12:20 AM
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"I would if I was a women." No, actually you wouldn't. Lol Because there are good reasons why women don't do that as often. That is NOT "systemic privilege." You guys are freaking DELUSIONAL. Women have more options when dating. They largely dominate the sexual realm. This is bc there are more consequences for women when they have sex AND demand outweighs supply. Why do you think there are so many women prostitutes and not men? Many more consequences for women they risk their safety and becoming…
/r/MensRights01/12/20 12:02 AM
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Bc he did beat her. He admitted it. They hit each other. Well, she hit him, he beat her. What she did was not okay but stop pretending like he's some innocent victim. He isn't. I'm sure there are actual male victims that you guys can focus on right?? Oh wait, it's not about the male victims it's about hating women. Forgot about that
/r/MensRights30/11/20 11:44 PM
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And if the problem is lying why did you "confirm" that most women lie for attention?? There's nothing about women specifically that makes them so needy they need to lie but not men
/r/seduction30/11/20 10:19 PM
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Okay? Is it my fault then that they pretended to be my friend instead? No
/r/seduction30/11/20 10:17 PM
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That would mean they are lying to ME, pretending to be my friend for sex and/or a relationship
/r/seduction25/11/20 11:32 PM
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I don't understand what you mean. I have close friends that help build me up when I'm feeling down, I don't need to lie to the opposite sex to get it. Everyone appreciates validation but only those will low self esteem are willing to go that far in order to get it, because they rely on outside validation for their self worth. Most people don't do that. But the ones that do are equally men and women. I've known a lot of guys that did this to girls, stringing them along for supply, "plate spinning…
/r/seduction25/11/20 03:27 AM
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That is because you have low self esteem. A lot of insecure men and women will keep people around for emotional validation. I'm a woman and I don't do this and I've never had any desire to manufacture that. I don't lead guys on to use them, I don't need to and I don't have time. Again, it's low self esteem that predicts that, not being a woman
/r/seduction24/11/20 03:42 AM
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This is the most ironic comment ever considering the sub you're posting in blames women and a straw man version of feminism for all your issues instead of correctly identifying the source of your issues and then actually fixing them with activism. No MRAs have actually raised money for homeless men or DV victims. Also studies show than women are much more likely to admit fault and take responsibility for it than men are. That comment was so absurd, how can you not see your hypocrisy?? Everyone i…
/r/MensRights23/11/20 12:37 AM
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WTF r u even talking about? Brainwashed nonsense. BTW I never looked through your post history lol Literally everyone understands men have issues and need help. Everyone knows that feminism isn't to blame which is why they don't take you seriously. Again, feminism isn't extremist, it is NOT a fringe unified ideology. You need help. Men are NOT being killed for being men. They are not being mutilated or sexually assaulted bc they are men. And men are doing this TO EACH OTHER. The issue is poverty…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 07:05 AM
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You can't say I'm an extremist because you don't know what my views are. I have never told you want they were. You can't say what I believe bc no feminist has the same beliefs. The difference is I CAN tell you what YOU believe. Bc you all DO have a unified ideology with shared propaganda. Does that make sense to you bc I feel like this is going over your head but it's pretty simple. I don't even know what 90% of feminist thought in academia even is. No feminist outside of academia does. Do you b…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 03:07 AM
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The MRA movement literally is a unified, organized movement with clear leaders (Paul Elum) and unified propaganda. There is no leader of feminism we all follow lol. But you guys do have a leader whose ideas have not changed or been challenged. You all simply believe it, like a cult. It objectively radicalizes naive teenage boys, mostly for the alt-right. That is fact. Feminism is united in a unified GOAL. But there is absolutely no unified belief system, method for reaching that goal or expectat…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 02:38 AM
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I care about men's issues. Men and women should work together for equality. I think any feminist that actually hates men is not a true feminist. Again, the movement doesn't have a unified belief system like that. You can't say that feminists think anything. There is only one unified belief and that's women deserve to have equal rights to men. Any other feminist though is confined to academia. Facts and statistics are NOT sexist. They just are. There is no bias here. You'll have to clarify exactl…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 02:00 AM
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You can't just say someone is sexist when they aren't lol. That's like getting fired for a fuck up then saying it was because of your gender. Its meaningless, you clearly can't even define sexism. Sexism is EXCLUSION or DISCRIMINATION against someone because of their sex AND THEIR SEX ALONE. Repeating factual info you don't like, that goes against your echo chamber is not being sexist. I'd have this exact same convo if you were a woman. You disrespect actual victims of sexism by claiming you're …
/r/MensRights21/11/20 01:44 AM
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Its "you're" Feminism absolutely does NOT think men should be reduced to 10% of the population. That's fear mongering, paranoid BULLSHIT. It truly is an extremist minority with those women and feminism as a whole doesn't agree with every crackpot idea an individual women says lol. That's not how that movement works. It is isn't like MRAs where there's a belief system based on propaganda that all the members agree with. YOU misunderstand what everyone is saying and CHOOSE to take it personally th…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 01:21 AM
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A metoo spokesperson is not a thing. There are not representatives in that movement lol, it's not an organization. No one can say hey, you're not allowed to use that hashtag lol. Bc no one is in charge?? What are you even imagining metoo is?? Its a movement for women to speak out about the SEXUAL abuse they've experienced. She has been sexually abused, she's allowed to talk about it. Besides, it doesn't matter. He DID hit her. And not just in "self defense." Women can be both abusers and the abu…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 01:02 AM
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Where have you gotten your info on feminism?? HERE? Examples of extremist views on twitter? I don't agree with all feminist thought, but I'm still a feminist. You need to get an education, read a history book. Stop reading bullshit that appeals to your emotions and look objectively. This sub is poison and is full of bias, lies and half-truths. You guys all repeat the exact same false info bc its all coming from the same source. And when someone shows you you're wrong you freak out. I don't under…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 12:47 AM
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All of those are straight lies. They are ALL underfunded. That's a fact. Why dont you call a domestic violence organization and discuss this? They will back up what I'm saying and you'll find they do help men lol, I work in one. Men's needs are not the same as womens and all the evidence says so. Where are you getting this info?? What men being slaughtered?? lol By other men you mean?? Women are not murdering men in DV situations. It's rare, while it's very common for men to murder their partner…
/r/MensRights21/11/20 12:31 AM
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You're taking individual feminist thinkers with extremist views and saying that they are feminism. It's a straw man. I think that was the case with Amber Heard at first but I have not seen ANYONE defend her since audio came out. But they absolutely hit each other
/r/MensRights21/11/20 12:15 AM
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lol That's hilarious. What do you guys even imagine our lives are like? Women work full time and do the majority of the housework and childcare STILL. Have you ever interacted with women? The problem is YOU are too privileged to see past your own myopic experiences and the propaganda you've been fed. I have a sister who was wounded in war lol. The mandatory draft isn't coming back but it doesn't matter bc female soldiers exist, and would be there as well. Women are allowed to fight now and lots …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 08:36 AM
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That hasn't existed since the 70s. So why is that a talking point? And men were never sent off to war bc powerful men hated their own gender. It was never bc they were men. Every nation will need to fight at some point the sex viewed as competent and superior went. The draft did discriminate against poor men though, absolutely. But bc they were poor or criminal NOT bc they're men. Women were also effected by the war, victims of mass war-time rape and they held down society and raised the kids wh…
/r/MensRights20/11/20 08:21 AM
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Yeah, I think you're right. I never had the opinion more fathers are abusers and I've never seen the stats but I'll take your word for it. But it is mainly an issue with courts wanting BOTH parents to have access bc they see it as "best for the kids" or there isn't even objective proof there's abuse in situations where they need to intervene. But that's people being incompetent, not gender discrimination. But bc men very rarely even request full custody they are taken seriously and they win it a…
/r/MensRights20/11/20 07:55 AM
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No, I'm saying that 90% of custody cases NEVER GO TO COURT. They came up with the arrangement on their own. It only goes to court when couples can't agree and that usually means there are complications like abuse allegations. Studies include all custody agreements not only those that are fought in court. So Moms do have more custody but 90% of the time HE agreed to that. He wanted that. Within the 10% that go to court, if the Dad is going for full custody he wins 70% of the time. SOME abusers sl…
/r/MensRights20/11/20 07:24 AM
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What are you even talking about? I work in a domestic violence shelter and we house men and their children in hotels (as do many others) which is honestly a better deal as women's shelters are SEVERELY underfunded. I'm talking about women and children sleeping on floors, shelters crawling with bedbugs, expired food, always too full, while women and children are flooding general shelters and hospitals waiting. Men sometimes need shelters but the need is not on the same level as women. Currently, …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 06:42 AM
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Well yeah. Who were men. But they don't face discrimination BECAUSE they're men. Those are different things. It may be discrimination because of poverty. But men have never faced systemic discrimination due to gender alone-women have. Which is why women's rights are a thing. They actually didn't have them lol
/r/MensRights20/11/20 05:02 AM
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Can't disagree with facts dude, sorry. Not all opinions are equal
/r/MensRights20/11/20 05:01 AM
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Well I had to say why lol. Bias toward gender roles exists in courts, but NOT sexism against men. I explain in detail why that is true and you should read it
/r/MensRights20/11/20 04:59 AM
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Men absolutely do NOT face oppression due to gender and gender alone. They never have. They struggle with economic oppression which is not specific to men, although probably more men are effected. Child custody courts are NOT sexist and studies show that. Those men fighting for years are not fighting bc of sexism. That isn't how child custody courts work. Does bias toward traditional gender roles exist? Yes, but that hurts the women too. Most couples want 50/50, they don't fight for full. Women …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 04:56 AM
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lol Right? White Men have had default rights since the beginning. Their rights and theirs alone were written in the constitution. They have literally NEVER been denied civil rights due to gender and gender alone. Ever. Only women and minorities have been denied civil rights due to race and gender. Men face oppression due to economic inequality and rigid gender roles (that men created). Anything "feminine" like expressing emotion for example, is seen as bad, because of cultural misogyny. So this …
/r/MensRights20/11/20 04:32 AM
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"men rarely blame others for their failures" LMFAO
/r/MensRights20/11/20 04:29 AM
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Yes, the reason it was seen as funny is because society viewed men as the competent ones and women as the bumbling idiots. This trope was meant to portray the inverse for comedic effect. It was only funny because men were in actual reality seen as more competent than their wives. Same as the "wise or magical negro" trope. The reason it was "funny" or interesting is because black people weren't actually seen as wise and intelligent. It is not a trope against men.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 09:31 AM
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You're choosing to get triggered over a scientifically neutral write up about the males role in reproduction
/r/MensRights14/11/20 09:11 AM
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Because I'm not reading it with a bias. You're bizarrely taking facts about the role of males in sexual reproduction as a personal insult to you lol. He is NOT talking about a world without men. He's talking about the EVOLUTION of males in the context of sexual reproduction and the possible REPRODUCTIVE future of our species. Again, if you are educated in biology you would not have read it that way. He specifically studies human sexual reproduction, that's his field. You are misinterpreting this…
/r/MensRights14/11/20 09:08 AM
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This article has NOTHING to do with feminism. Literally nothing and there is zero way to tell if he is or isn't. He's discussing biology because he's a doctor lol
/r/MensRights14/11/20 08:59 AM
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This was written by a male DOCTOR discussing sexual reproduction vs asexual reproduction and why males and sex evolved and what reproduction might look like in the future. It's nothing against men, it's something you'd discuss if you take a college bio course. You guys are morons
/r/MensRights14/11/20 08:41 AM
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You're joking right?? Have you ever taken a biology course in your life? This male doctor is discussing the cost vs benefits of sexual reproduction over other types of reproduction. That's it. You guys are so set on being victims you see it where there clearly is none. You've embarrassingly misinterpreted the entire article. We've had this exact same discussion in my college bio courses and it wasn't "misandry." Ridiculous. Everything he wrote is objectively correct, men ARE more biologically fr…
/r/MensRights14/11/20 08:27 AM
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Wat?? I'm talking about acting like a confident gentleman with options demonstrating value with someone he's already on a date with, not random women. We must also have wildly different definitions of generosity as a compliment is not generous in the slightest. I'm a woman and feel flattered when ANYONE compliments me. Why would I think he's "simping" because he complimented me?? lol. Also "they don't want to feel worthy of you and yours???!!!" No dude. Absolutely not, you're CLUELESS. No woman …
/r/seduction11/11/20 10:46 PM
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That is laughably untrue. Confident men with lots of options that are generous because they want to be without worry about the outcome, and who act like gentlemen get women. Men like you're describing come off as bitter, selfish and like they're suspicious of women. There has to be a balance and you have to put yourself first overall but true kindness and generosity (not simping and self abasement) is valued, not taken advantage of.
/r/seduction10/11/20 11:47 PM
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They don't think they're going to be with them, they're paying for the fantasy. And they're not pulling in 6-7 figures a WEEK
/r/seduction07/11/20 10:21 PM
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It just means don't worry about the outcome. Have fun, you're just getting to know her. I've had guys go on one date with me and then are intent on ending up in a relationship with me and express lots of insecurity, comments about being afraid it won't work out, that they're wasting their time again, that I'm seeing other people after one date. It's creepy and obviously desperate because they shouldn't be so sure about me that soon. It just seems like they don't have options and latched onto me …
/r/seduction07/11/20 10:19 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not talking about women in relationships or situationships. I'm talking about people setting up multiple first dates kinda thing and then focusing on the person they're connecting with the most. Dating. I think we have different definitions of the word dating? Everything you're describing can still happen with a person that was going on dates when you first met them and then didn't commit to you after one date. It will evolve into exclusivity …
/r/seduction30/10/20 07:57 PM
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I see!! Yeah, you actually made the right call I think
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:34 PM
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So you literally meet someone then lazer focus on them and commit after the 1st date?? And expect her to? That's creepy dude. I'd address that neediness and insecurity.
/r/seduction28/10/20 07:42 AM
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You don't apply to everyone??
/r/seduction28/10/20 01:06 AM
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I'm a girl and I agree with this. Most people date more than one person in the very early stages. It sounds like she was just being honest but wanted to see if there was a connection with OP. If he genuinely liked her he should have continued seeing her while being aware of the amount of reciprocation and to end it as soon as she seems uninterested or distant. The problem with a lot of niceguys is they don't let the relationship progress naturally with both parties clearly on the same page. Inse…
/r/seduction28/10/20 12:53 AM
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Wat? All the niceguys I've unfortunately come into contact with were not raised by single Moms. Why is that the assumed reason??
/r/seduction28/10/20 12:46 AM
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I see! Sorry if I misunderstood!
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:21 PM
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This isn't really how normal people get dates though right?? It's organic, repeated interactions with someone in your circle, a co-worker, mutual friend. Or online. "Approaching" random women on the street is a truly terrible strategy.
/r/seduction20/10/20 09:12 PM
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Wow stereotype much?
/r/seduction20/10/20 01:50 AM
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I mean while in the early stages of dating. I'm looking for a LTR so during early dating I'm looking for red flags, I'm looking for answers to certain questions about their goals and what they want in life, does he want kids, marriage, personality compatibility, etc. I want a guy that is doing the same. So if we end up in a relationship, there was thought there. He believes I'm compatible with him and his life. Niceguys don't do this. They will try to make themselves to be whatever they think yo…
/r/seduction14/10/20 10:37 PM
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First of all if you have mutual friends telling you what your ex is saying, tell them you don't care and you don't want to hear about it. They're kinda shitty for telling you about it. Seriously, move on. Don't keep interacting with their drama. Who cares if they're talking shit?? What is talking to them going to do about that? Someone doing that is obviously trying to get you to interact with them. Don't give them what they want. Ignore it. Don't look at their social media. You don't have to ca…
/r/seduction14/10/20 04:40 AM
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What the hell are you talking about lmfao
/r/seduction14/10/20 01:45 AM
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No it doesn't. It says confidence boosting procrastination. Do you not know what that means?? And swiping is NOT wasting someone's time. No one is actually talking to men for a confidence boost. They're talking about matching. And a match isn't wasting your time. If a women responds to you she is NOT doing that as a self esteem boost. If she is using Tinder for "confidence boosting procrastination, she's just swiping not talking to people. Do you realize how many messages women get?? Who has tim…
/r/seduction14/10/20 01:36 AM
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That doesn't make any sense at all. 1st, that would be an extremely rare thing to happen. 2nd, the person accusing you of harassment "months later" can only do so if they have proof. If they have no evidence of you harassing them, then they can't accuse you. If you have them blocked, it's the exact same thing. It shows you haven't interacted with them for x months because you can see the date they were blocked. On all cell phones you can back up the chat history and block. It's always been like …
/r/seduction14/10/20 01:18 AM
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That's not it though. I've had bfs treat me like royalty. But our relationship built to that and treating me well was never used as a way to manipulate me and guilt me into a relationship. That's the thing, they always say it's no strings attached, I just like to be nice but if you decide they aren't for you then they make you feel guilty like you owe them something. And they think you're rejecting them because they're nice when being nice is bare minimum. We chose partners based on more than th…
/r/seduction13/10/20 11:31 PM
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Wait what?? Wtf lol I have so many questions. Who are you dating? Are you a man or a woman? Have you been in a lot of abusive relationships? If someone contacts you in the future you can just ask who they are?! You do understand that blocking doesn't delete your text history right?? And it still shows the person called. You get a notification of a call that was blocked and what number it was. But why would someone be a potential threat? Why are these people so furious with you for breaking up wi…
/r/seduction13/10/20 10:20 PM
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I mean are you talking about ghosting or breaking up then blocking? I break up then block
/r/seduction13/10/20 10:05 PM
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Yes! I completely agree. Although cold approach is fine and you have to at least show her you're not a creep. It's the answer to the confusion of "niceguys" too. I dated a niceguy for a month and I started to see all the ways our personalities and life goals were not compatible but he seemed determined from the 1st date to be in a relationship with me. And then was confused when I declined to be in a relationship with him after 4 weeks because "no one will ever treat you like I've treated you. G…
/r/seduction13/10/20 09:58 PM
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No, let's be adults. It's perfectly fine to say that. You just ignore the response
/r/seduction13/10/20 09:48 PM
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Yes! The no contact rule is for you to heal, it's not to do something to them. It is very difficult to get over someone you are talking to periodically. Every time you talk to them it's going to set back that process
/r/seduction13/10/20 09:47 PM
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As a woman his advice is spot on. I want to be chosen with thought. I don't want a man to latch onto me because I was available.
/r/seduction13/10/20 09:46 PM
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What you cited wasn't talking about using dating apps as a self esteem boost. So what evidence is there? You haven't showed any. And who cares if some people were? What's wrong with a self esteem boost? No one is wasting men's time on dating apps because women don't owe anyone our time. What was offensive was the "looking for validation and wasting us [sic] men's time." That's so ridiculous. That's something guys imagine women are doing when they don't message them back out of bitterness, it's n…
/r/seduction13/10/20 11:32 AM
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Okay but 80% of users are men and 20% are women. And that graph doesn't separate by sex. So it kinda looks like the men are doing it. Plus procrastination is not the same as validation even if it's confidence boosting. And dude specifically said "boosting self esteem while wasting men's time." That's pretty specific. Way more specific than "confidence boosting procrastination." The key word there is definitely procrastination. Also I didn't see that graph is your source so I'm confused.
/r/seduction13/10/20 11:13 AM
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Dude. 95% of communication is body language. We ALL send signals to each other when flirting and gaging interest. Women do this to gage YOUR interest. If you respond, they can approach or you can approach. That's the point. Flirting from men and women is almost all body language. You NEED to learn to read it, otherwise you won't be able to flirt at all. You also send signals whether you know it or not. It isn't low effort flirting, that IS flirting.
/r/seduction13/10/20 08:50 AM
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For number one you need to go into environments where people are looking to meet and flirt. Go to a bar, women will absolutely be sending signals. Number 2 is absurd. A lot of people have options. Having options doesn't mean she's compatible with them. You're basically telling people it's hopeless. That is ridiculous. Studies absolutely do NOT say that a small fraction of men have the most sex. That is such bullshit. That sounds like incel propaganda. This relies on how good you are at taking ph…
/r/seduction13/10/20 08:43 AM
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It's really bad in here. It seems like it's being overrun by incels.
/r/seduction13/10/20 08:34 AM
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Yep!
/r/seduction13/10/20 08:32 AM
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How do you know that they're there to increase self esteem just because the conversation fades out or they don't respond? That's extremely presumptuous. I (and most women on the app) get so many matches there is literally no way I can respond to everyone. And I can only talk to so many people at a time so sometimes I'll respond to a person then start talking to someone else, and then I'll just get busy and never message them back again. They get buried in my inbox. Which is why you're right to g…
/r/seduction13/10/20 07:20 AM
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It is true that the men that complain about women the way you are and fundamentally don't understand our experience and that we do have the reproductive burden and are more vulnerable in sex and dating are men that have serious issues with women and are completely focused on themselves. They don't make good partners. It doesn't make sense for you to ask me to prove it. That's like asking me to prove the sky is blue. It's something right in front of your eyes but you're too busy looking up your o…
/r/seduction13/10/20 12:20 AM
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As a side note you should stop thinking disadvantaged meakling that doesn't have control over her life, that's a very unhealthy way to live. What is this? Pretty much in your imagination. So is imaging I'm fat and unattractive.
/r/seduction13/10/20 12:19 AM
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I don't know what you're talking about because you're projecting all kinds of beliefs and thoughts onto me that aren't there. You're arguing with imaginary views I don't even have.
/r/seduction12/10/20 10:21 PM
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What the fuck are you even talking about? This. This is why I don't approach men. Because the ones that complain about women not approaching are clueless men with serious issues like you.
/r/seduction12/10/20 05:39 AM
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So you don't choose who you have sex with? You never reject women? You think you should be able to walk away from a child YOU made while she does all the care and financial support? Get the fuck outta here. With your serious lack of understanding of women's experience I doubt many women are choosing you anyway. You should definitely tell her about these views before you have sex. If you get there. Women aren't disadvantaged when it comes to biology and sex?! You're an actual idiot
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:39 AM
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Do you get pregnant, GIVE BIRTH and nurse? No? Then wtf are talking about? Whining about nothing like most of the men in the thread. Approaching women isn't easy, but you guys don't get to throw that on women too. We already risk our safety to meet you guys. Why don't we just propose as well? We already do the majority of the housework and childcare within a marriage while also working a full time job lol. You guys are RIDICULOUS. I'm not saying I never approach men, but I do prefer it when they…
/r/seduction12/10/20 03:02 AM
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Equality is not same. Men and women are different. We have equal rights, value and freedom but we are not the same. Our sexuality and arousal does not work the same. Not hitting on men does not mean incapable of speaking to the opposite gender. If it helps your insecurity to imagine me as "a whale" then go ahead. Be in denial
/r/seduction11/10/20 11:22 PM
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It's not a lecture. I am telling you why women pursuing men doesn't work most of the time and expecting them to do it is ridiculous. If you want to understand women maybe actually read my comment and learn something.
/r/seduction11/10/20 11:14 PM
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Thank you! They have no idea how women work
/r/seduction11/10/20 11:12 PM
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Women's sexuality is completely different from male sexuality. Studies back me up on what I'm about to say: ON AVERAGE Women's sexuality is more receptive. We are turned on by the feeling of being desired by the men we're attracted to and are aroused by the man confidently pursuing us. Approaching and hitting on a man kills my sex drive and the sex drive of a lot of other women. Sorry biology works that way. And men say they want this but it ends up being a turn off for most men to whether they'…
/r/seduction11/10/20 11:11 PM
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How old are you? Next time make the two subjects separate texts and wait for her to respond to one before asking the other. She might not be interested in your suggestion. For a first date a walk alone is kinda lame, you should do dinner and a walk. I'm gonna be honest, if a guy asked me on a walk for our first date I wouldn't answer or I'd say I wasn't interested. Put some effort in. Also instead of asking try saying something like "I'd like to take you out to dinner on x day. Are you free arou…
/r/seduction09/10/20 03:44 AM
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I get that, I'm sorry too if I was harsh. You are right of course. Women aren't angels bc they're women. I do believe manipulative people are the minority though. Some women really do seek out men that don't have those boundaries because he is a genuinely good person who thinks he is helping her, then she uses him and leaves. She lied about caring about him. If that happened to you, I'm very sorry. That isn't your fault. I just recognized a lot of behaviors that I've seen from men pretending to …
/r/seduction25/09/20 05:07 AM
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You're problem is clear. Like I said, you don't set boundaries. It's impossible to respect someone without boundaries. Because you think if you let them "use you" you'll get a relationship in return. Men and women don't like pushovers. Also calling me a bitch and a narcissist is so gross. If that's how you talk about women irl, that's also definitely contributing to your plight Edit: Sorry you were hurt. I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm just trying to be real. You may not realize it but there are…
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:48 AM
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Woah. And I read between the lines?? Come on man. I commented directly on what you wrote down. You just don't like the truth. It has absolutely nothing to do with feminism?? That doesn't even make sense. Stop dating girls with low self esteem. Then the "you're too nice mentality" goes away. Unless (as I suspect) by "too nice" they mean you are too agreeable, as in you agree with everything they say, have no opinions, or try to please them all the time because it's boring to be with someone whose…
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:26 AM
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Jesus Christ, okay you're a "niceguy." And you aren't actually nice or a good catch based on what you wrote here. Here's the thing- you have no evidence that "far too many women" are using men as an ATM. It's 2020. More women than men have jobs. More women than men have degrees. Women are starting to own their own homes. Women are doing better economically (in the U.S, I don't know where you are) than men. So it's ridiculous to say this is common at all, because statistically she is more likely …
/r/seduction25/09/20 12:17 AM
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I will say working class men work very hard. Men do volunteer for difficult jobs because of strength or because they are good people. Men have built most of civilization and have maintained it. Men have invented amazing things. Just because women were excluded doesn't mean we don't appreciate men and their hard work. My only point is discrimination against women has been due to their female bodies. Men experiencing exploitation and hardship have because of economic inequalities. I don't think an…
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:52 AM
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That is NOT the male perspective. That is OBJECTIVELY happening. There is actually evidence for that.
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:37 AM
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You cannot say that most of an entire gender is only nice to manipulate. That goes against every study done on human nature. Women are not a hivemind. Women are individual human beings.
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:36 AM
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Women are in construction. A lot of construction relies on machinery now which doesn't rely on just strength. It is almost unbearable to be in a male dominated field like construction because of the constant sexual harrassment, sexism and discrimination women experience in those fields. Women don't get hired in those fields as often as men. They're viewed as incompetent. So why are you complaining about war then?? That isn't a gender issue then, is it? That's an issue with whether or not the dra…
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:34 AM
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It matters because it means that men aren't experiencing suicidal ideation at higher rates.
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:31 AM
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Yes, I did explain. I told you that women have the universal experience of being exploited and manipulated by men since very young. That is the reason why we are suspicious of niceguys. Because they want something in return and can be dangerous when they don't get it. This is true for almost every women. There is no evidence that most women are nice in order to manipulate men. There is no evidence that women are categorically manipulative. I can say God is real and he's a teacup in the sky. But …
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:29 AM
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And one of the reasons why men have higher suicide rates have to do with economic inequality. Not because of sex discrimination. And women attempt suicide at much higher rates than men. Men just use more legal methods, like guns. A lot of the time they have more access to them.
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:25 AM
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Women also go to war now. Women were excluded from war and in World War 2 we fought for the right to go to war. Women went to congress and advocated so they could go fight. They won. So complaining about war is ridiculous!! That's a class issue. It is not a sex issue.
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:24 AM
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I never said all men have it easy or they have no problems. But you have no rational reason to be afraid of women and suspicious of them. That's my point. And no lol Women are socialized to be subservient to men. Men are raised and socialized completely differently, and raised to believe they are above women. Because they objectively are in social status. You not seeing that, doesn't mean it isn't true
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:22 AM
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Women have been historically, globally and pandemically subjugated, exploited, abused, raped, tortured and murdered on the basis of nothing but being women and having female sex characteristics. Our experiences are nothing alike or comparable. We still experience misogyny, sexual harrassment, rape, sexism and discrimination. Your post is misogynistic. Men kill women every two hours. Men are raised to believe they are above women. That comes out in social interactions. Our experiences are not com…
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:13 AM
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Lol!!! Oh that's a good one!!!
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:10 AM
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WOW. NO DUDE. It is NOT the same. Not at all!! Holy shit. Women's experiences are categorically different, worse and not comparable. Men are mad about women for spending their time and money for an outcome that won't happen. Whether that's sex or love. What the hell is this?? Just because a man dates a women does not mean she owes him a relationship or anything at all. Women can get to know you and decided you two aren't compatible. That isn't "bad" for a women to do. That isn't lying or manipul…
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:08 AM
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Whelp, looks like the mods did take this down, thank God. Maybe that'll wake you up to the fact that while not everything in your post was wrong or offensive, most was. And based on your commenting in the thread you don't have healthy perspectives on women or dating
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:05 AM
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I already did
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:59 AM
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I already explained that! Are you dense?
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:59 AM
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It doesn't matter. Most is still not true.
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:55 AM
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Again. You said most. That is not true
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:25 AM
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How is it for men?
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:24 AM
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...but you said most women. And that is objectively wrong.
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:24 AM
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That's is what it means to a lot of women. But not for the reasons you said. Human relationships will always be transactional on some level. That goes for friendships too. But not always in an exploitative manner. And love and altruism exists. You just have to be in a commited relationship with that person before sacrificing for them in a major way
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:17 AM
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If course certain women manipulate. That's no revelation. But that isn't what you said
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:15 AM
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You did NOT say "certain women." You said most women. Don't backtrack
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:14 AM
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It's a TERRIBLE take and a very unhealthy and straight up wrong way to view women. The majority of women are not nice to manipulate, they are actually, genuinely nice, in fact they're socialized to be genuinely nice, but they have been manipulated. The men here don't get that. Because you're a man. You haven't been constantly lied to and manipulated for sex since 13 years old or earlier. This is the experience of the majority of women and girls. It isn't a projection of intentions onto men, it's…
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:12 AM
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You don't seem to understand that the majority of women are not nice to manipulate, they are actually nice, but they have been manipulated. You don't GET that. Because you're a man. You haven't been constantly lied to and manipulated for sex since 13 years old or earlier. This is the experience of the majority of women and girls. It isn't a projection of intentions onto men, it's based on universal experience. This is the true reason behind being suspicious of nice besides trying to figure out i…
/r/seduction24/09/20 09:03 AM
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It's not because they see them as weak. OP is wrong- women don't see it as manipulative because THEY manipulate. They see it as manipulative because they have been manipulated for sex since puberty. It's based on experience not projection. She just wants a genuine person. OP doesn't understand that because he is a man
/r/seduction24/09/20 08:58 AM
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You should listen to him. He's right
/r/seduction24/09/20 08:55 AM
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You recognized what a bad take this is and so you're already ahead of the 800 guys that upvoted it! Lol I'm sure you do fine! The book "Models" seemed good
/r/seduction24/09/20 08:53 AM
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The explanation is that men are not taking responsibility for their actions. The explanation is that a lot of men are just terrible. The explanation is a lot of men lie and pretend to be something they aren't even when they aren't psychopaths. They feel entitled to do so because of socialization. Stop blaming the women. You yourself are one of those terrible men but you can't see it. Do you date men? Because gay men will say the exact same thing I'm saying. The problem is men
/r/seduction23/09/20 10:00 PM
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You seem VERY bitter- hence your post. It's your fault that women have obviously hurt you? BTW I'm glad we had this conversation. Because naive men upvote this shit and don't understand how fucked up and wrong it is until the OP outs himself as a lunatic in the comments. So thanks. You've shown everyone you're wrong more than anyone else explaining why
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:51 PM
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But men who leave their children aren't?? No you don't understand people. Because they're more complicated than that. You are simplifying and falling for black and white thinking which is another thinking error. You need therapy. Cognitive behavioral therapy specifically. Sometimes there are signs and the person didn't have enough experience to see them. Sometimes there aren't. Sometimes a person has low self esteem and genuinely doesn't understand they deserve better. Either way, it's no ones f…
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:47 PM
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Oh do you not have a cruel comment about how it was somehow my fault? Or do you not want to admit you're wrong? Which is a great qualify in a partner btw /s Maybe instead of attacking women you don't know you should be looking at yourself and fixing it in therapy. Because no women deserves to come across a "man" like you
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:46 PM
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Are you 12? I'm really asking though, because you are very naive and don't seem to understand people. You can be with someone for years and they can chose to cheat or mess up to the point where the relationship is beyond repair. What about single Dads? Is it their fault?? Why do I have a feeling that you don't think so?
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:40 PM
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I have a child thank you. And there is nothing wrong with women who can't have children. Or infertile men for that matter. I was married to an amazing man whose parents died and he fell into alcoholism. I've supported him from a distance and now he's been sober enough to be a father and we co-parent. But the relationship is beyond repair. When I married him he never drank. People change. It's not the women's fault. That's such a wierd, disturbing way of looking at things. Again. Adults take resp…
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:38 PM
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And when men mess up to the point where the women leaves? That's not her fault. It doesn't mean he acted like that when they married. It doesn't mean he was always like that. The problem is men don't want to be held responsible for their bad behavior hence this comment. Put the blame where the blame belongs
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:35 PM
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Not every women wants that???
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:33 PM
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What?? What about my post makes you think I haven't had good partners?? I've had good partners because of experience and lots and lots of filtering and being picky. That means nexting men that do nice things and give gifts right away. Because they will expect payment later. You don't understand women and you're projecting. Your incel misogynistic views will not help you. They will harm you. You will not find a good women with objectively wrong views like this. All your comments are a bunch of th…
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:31 PM
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I can't believe this misogynistic asshole hit the front page. I have to get off reddit, it's making it hard to date and I'm more suspicious of men then I already am. Like, what if he thinks like this and I have no idea? Reddit men are so disturbing
/r/seduction23/09/20 09:14 PM
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Your post is absolute bullshit. That is NOT the reason why women don't like "niceguys." Women are looking for genuinely nice men. That's the bare minimum. Women are suspicious of men being "too nice" because of past experiences with men manipulating US. It has nothing to do with our behavior
/r/seduction23/09/20 08:55 PM
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God you have serious issues. I really hope you are an anomaly
/r/seduction22/09/20 11:24 PM
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Dude. Look through this guys post history. He is the biggest fucking creep. Other advice is to suddenly pin her down when you want to have sex for the first time and don't ask permission...because it excites her.
/r/seduction21/09/20 10:08 PM
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This is the truth!! Anyone saying otherwise is only trying to protect their ego by blaming failure on something they see as out of their control. It's a classic defense mechanism and a thinking error. Some people just will not accept that their belief system isn't true because it means that rejection might be because of personality or a social faux pax which take genuine work to improve. One of the ways to attract women is to be good-looking. Your foot is automatically in the door, so that step …
/r/seduction13/09/20 11:10 PM
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Do you mean socially uncalibrated? Right, I mean it's a little more complex than that. You still have to have social skills and be able to read the room. There are times that no matter how confident you do or say something it's going to be "off" because it was socially inappropriate for that context in a way that matters. But generally, I think people can sense when you don't care what others think and are comfortable with yourself and they're attracted to that. So even if you're a little weird,…
/r/seduction11/09/20 12:32 PM
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This is true!! But developing your personality and charisma at the same time will also help you to be successful. Being average looking or even unattractive but very funny, positive, confident and charismatic (the life of the party) and genuinely kind (not niceguy kind) will get you much, much farther than being good looking, boring and not very bright for example. (Not that those things are mutually exclusive, the hot dudes can have great personalities and average guys can have terrible persona…
/r/seduction11/09/20 06:54 AM
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Actually it proves OPs point perfectly. It's because he didn't do it out of a awkward, reflexive self consciousness AND it was real and genuine. He was being his weird self. Here's the difference: Right attitude: The date is boring. He's thinking in terms of himself and his feelings. "Do I like this person? She's shy and I'M bored, maybe she isn't for me. I'm gonna drop my shell and be me and do something that I think is funny so I have fun." Date sees that he's willing to not care what she thin…
/r/seduction11/09/20 05:01 AM
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Yes! Women here too and this post is spot on. Except maybe don't straight up insult her taste in music. Definitely tell her it's not your thing tho. At the very least have an intelligent reason behind that opinion besides "no that's stupid" lol
/r/seduction08/09/20 11:46 PM
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You insulted me lol Really projecting here dude. I really don't think this has insulted anyone else in this thread lol It's soooo lame to see people like that. Seriously so fucking lame. Because other guys see a smart, beautiful women with an awesome kid (well...if it gets to that point. They don't meet him until we're in a serious relationship and even then I wouldn't allow an attachment unless we were engaged. But I know he's great lol) who is a good mother, educated with two degrees and who i…
/r/seduction08/09/20 11:09 AM
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Lmfao. What do you not understand about no one ever wanting someone with such a bad personality. Please stop getting all butthurt and replying. I can't understand why this is personally offensive to you. People have preferences, that's normal. It's normal for some people not to be attracted to tattoos or height for that manner. That literally has no effect on my life because the type of guy who isn't in to them is not the kind of guy I'm interested in. What's not normal past the age of 11 is ste…
/r/seduction08/09/20 07:35 AM
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You know they teach not to stereotype people in like 1st grade right? Maybe you should learn that lesson
/r/seduction07/09/20 10:36 PM
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Tattoos have nothing to do with not being concerned about your health. I would honestly stop with the attempts at analogies. Especially because I'm not a smoker and weight 110.
/r/seduction07/09/20 09:25 PM
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Lol yeah no...that doesn't make sense. If you're calling me "used" then trust me dude you are NOT who I want hitting on me. Thank you. Because now I see my tats as a protection against weirdos who engage in cognitive errors like you. lol fully embracing! Especially because they do look good
/r/seduction07/09/20 06:30 PM
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I mean you shouldn't make assumptions, my ex and son's Dad owns a few tattoo shops and is a fantastic artist himself. I have a sleeve worth 5k (he's a top artist in a bigger city and runs $250 per hour, although sleeves are usually flat rate of anywhere between 3k-6k). I didn't pay a penny. But since we split up I went back to college, just graduated and am still living in a very small two bedroom student parent housing unit getting ready to start grad school. Grad students get paid a pittance p…
/r/seduction07/09/20 02:54 AM
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The thread is about universal red flags dude not characteristics about the person that screwed YOU over. The 1st and last don't apply
/r/seduction07/09/20 02:34 AM
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I checked them out. The art of seduction looks like a book for garbage men trying to take advantage of naive girls with low self esteem. A women with experience and high self esteem that knows what's she's worth would see right past that bullshit and drop your clown ass. But maybe you aren't going for her. What happened to just being a charming, confident gentleman, do you really have to resort to THAT? Gross. The other looks fine as far as I can see. Isn't there a difference between real seduct…
/r/seduction02/09/20 07:30 AM
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I know I'm a women so I can't possibly know what I'm talking about but the women in this pic is NOT relaxed. If they were having a great conversation and she felt comfortable she would not have gotten into the car and put her hands on the steering wheel. At this point the conversation is over, walk away. You should not hover in a strange women's car window. It's okay to introduce yourself and hand the girl your number (this makes her feel safe, she's in control of whether or not you two talk and…
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:58 PM
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There's a big difference between choosing to meet up and having that pushed on you in public. I'm not saying not to meet women in public. I'm saying don't do it like this. Imo if she's in her car ready to go don't ask for a pic. It's awkward and inappropriate. Don't ask for a pic at all but especially one while she's in her car and you're not. Posting your own pics online is not the same as a stranger asking to take one. In the 1st case they already have your tinder profile and social media beca…
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:55 PM
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The women in the pic is NOT relaxed. If you were having a great conversation and she felt comfortable she would not have gotten into the car and put her hands on the steering wheel. You should not hover in a women's car window. It's okay to introduce yourself and hand the girl your number in public in a cold approach (handing her your number when you are an absolute stranger makes her feel safe, she's in control of whether or not you two talk and she doesn't have to worry about a possible scary …
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:34 PM
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It all depends on the interpersonal dynamic. It's not the approach I have an issue with, approaching a women the way he did and getting her number is fine! But a setting like that you have to make it quick don't hold her hostage in her car. She isn't relaxed chatting with him, otherwise she wouldn't have gotten in her car. I see the story as creepy specifically because of the pic and the boundary pushing "tell me your life story in 2 mins. Especially posting it here. It may not have been dependi…
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:20 PM
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You're the second person in this subreddit that has mansplained to a me, a women about what women want. This tells me that a few of you guys here need to get your heads out of your asses and start viewing women as unique individual human beings that know exactly what they want and understand their own sexuality. You may be able to wear a mask and act out a game to get laid, but you'll never be able to have a real relationship with mutual respect unless you stop thinking like that
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:10 PM
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I never said that all these men are necessarily wrong. (Alhough some are notoriously wrong) I said women aren't wrong about this just because they're women
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:03 PM
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Seduction is obviously real. The existence of men writing books on how to do it doesn't mean they did it to understand women lol they did it for money!
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:46 PM
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So what are the motivations of the female psychologists who study dating rituals and female and male sexuality? Absolutely no one can be interested in a topic for knowledge itself?
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:43 PM
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Is what makes a women attractive to a man relevant here? Or is it the other way around? Men wanting to learn about women should listen to women. You don't understand that those self help books and seduction books written by men are a business. It's not real. It's not based on REAL research and when it is MORE women have conducted the research in that area than men. Selling to men "how to get a girl" is big business for obvious reasons. It doesn't make them right and it doesn't confirm what you'r…
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:41 PM
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Men can give good advice and know what they're talking about. But so can women. There are women psychologists that specialize in sex and relationships and female match makers that have primarily male clients. Everything you're saying is ignorant and honestly so offensive and I can assure you, a women doesn't want to be with a man who EVER says "all women __" and/or "no women _____ (insert ignorant generalizion) You do you. Good luck, you'll need it unless you hide the opinions and mindset you wr…
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:33 PM
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Oh right, because more than half of sex and relationship psychologists and sex and relationship researchers aren't women lol Therefore the research the men are citing was done by women. Ignorant
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:28 PM
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"They" You ARE saying all women are the same in that regard. Your responses are telling me that you should listen to women because you don't have a clue
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:17 PM
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So women can't articulate what they want? They were just surprised about what worked but they can't explain why? Women have never explicitly told their dates what to do? All they can do is react lol They can't explain in detail what to do? That's just ignorant
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:15 PM
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What about this dude? He's super confident and giving very specific advice but every single girl here is saying it's creepy. And yet, guys are in this thread taking notes. Blind leading the blind. Take advice from guys but writing off the advice of an entire class of people you're trying to impress is idiotic
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:12 PM
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That's not true. Women teach men what works by responding to what works. You're pretending like women don't have the capacity to explain exactly why it did which is something the man can't. He's making assumptions about why
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:10 PM
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That's a women giving you generalized advice, if you want specific examples ask. Men who have bad social skills shouldn't get then get mad and blame women for "bad advice" and decide they all give bad advice. Being nice and being yourself isn't even wrong, it's just not specific and you have to do that in a context of social awareness and social skills. You're generalizing all women as unhelpful in that area. You should probably treat women like individuals and say "the advice I've been given ha…
/r/seduction01/09/20 01:07 PM
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What do mean, guys approach us constantly in public. Half the time it's scary not impressive. The pic and "tell me your life story in 2 mins" during the first convo is creepy
/r/seduction01/09/20 12:54 PM
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Why would you not get her advice on how to do it? Women are hit on constantly it's pretty easy to explain who are successful and who aren't and why
/r/seduction01/09/20 12:49 PM
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I would be creeped the fuck out if I found this pic of me in a seduction subreddit. And "tell me your life story in 2 mins" is asking for too much info for an introduction in a parking lot. I hope it works out for you, but just a heads up taking pics with girls you don't know that well normally scares them.
/r/seduction01/09/20 12:47 PM
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Honestly it's a blessing this is videotaped and he kept his cool!! He is stable and didn't traumatize the child further. I hope he uses it in court and gets full custody. I hope to God he gets that poor kid away from that Narc. He is saying "why?!" in Chinese which makes me sick to my stomach. I have a 5 year old son and I can't imagine. What a betrayal. He does seem like a good Dad playing with him. How. I watch my son's Dad and him play Legos together and bond and I'm just so happy about how h…
/r/MensRights27/08/20 08:37 AM
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You really DO know how women feel better than we do! I'm so lucky for this education. Thank you. Too bad everyone is downvoting you instead of taking your advice.
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:17 PM
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What rant? The one you wrote? The projection here is insane. Don't worry I'll come back
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:13 PM
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You do understand that there is only one of us triggered and it's not me.
/r/seduction25/08/20 12:03 PM
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Huh? I'm not trolling?
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:58 AM
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This has been a fun conversation but before I go...what do you mean by "wannabe?" What do I want to be?
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:43 AM
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Also you're the only one who seems bothered.
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:36 AM
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Yeah you're right. I could be gathering intel for our feminist conspiracy to bring down the men. Can't be too careful
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:35 AM
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Imagine being this worked up over a reddit comment.
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:20 AM
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Lmfao
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:19 AM
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Is this a copypasta? I'm choosing to believe you're a troll
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:12 AM
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Wow. Your personality is amazing. I'm so sure women are all over this. Thanks for letting me know what me, a women really wants. I guess my lady brain was too emotional to really know lol
/r/seduction25/08/20 11:10 AM
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Hard disagree with his interpretation. Hanging out with friends doesn't mean you were friend zoned, it means you didn't ask her out on a proper date. Here's a woman's perspective. She may have been open to getting to know you or date you or even FWBs eventually and didn't want to just hook up with you immediately like that. You didn't invite her on a date, you invited her to come over and sleep with you with no lead up, no connection, no being alone beforehand. This is a seduction subreddit righ…
/r/seduction25/08/20 05:47 AM
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Then you go take in those kids. That little girl shouldn't be with that family but it isn't because he's white. He's just a piece of shit. It's not practical to not place black kids in white families if there are no black families to place them in!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/03/20 03:34 AM
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Okay, so it's better for children of color to be raised in foster or a group home than in a loving white family??? And black kids get adopted the least, THAT is very often the reason that the white couple chose them to adopt, because they often have the greatest need. We're you ever in foster care? I highly fucking doubt it based on this ignorant as fuck comment. I was, and I would never, ever suggest any child stay there rather than go to any family that is stable no matter what they look like.…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/20 11:48 PM
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Wow!! Exactly I'm almost just as angry with her for allowing her daughter around him now, actually more angry!! Now she knows so it's her responsibility to protect her daughter. Fine, mourn your husband that you thought you knew later but why is her daughter not the central concern here? He betrayed his daughter in a disgusting way with a friend, where is her wrath??? I would have immediately sent myself screen shots and contacted a lawyer. How could you watch anymore interactions between your d…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/03/20 11:32 PM
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You don't really sound like a woman.."queen meetups?" "FDS girlfriend" lol but if I'm wrong: Meeting friends irl and building a support system is a skill you really should master. Why is approaching your 30s relevant to realizing the importance of friends.Try meetup.com. FDS is a place to discuss anything FDS related so whats the point of planning a potentially dangerous meetup, just talk to someone here. I talk to my friends about dating and give advice and there's zero need to talk about FDS s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/03/20 09:57 PM
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No!!! Lol
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