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I'm pretty sure, in terper's minds, the similarity is: "Murdering other people is bad" "Women having sex with people other than me is bad" "These things are both bad and people who do them are bad people. Bad people are mentally the same. Therefore, people who have sex with more than one man are mentally similar to serial killers."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:58 PM
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Thank you very much for the book recommendation, I'm certain I will enjoy it. You have clearly worked well on several elements in your writing that are usually nowhere near as developed in most people's writing, hence I will certainly study the book you've worked with. As for your conclusions, as presented in your post; the effort is appreciated, thanks for sharing. What I ultimately see however, is what I've come to see in all of TRP; It's as if you have all fallen into a cavernous hole, and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:15 AM
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I'm dating my favorite person in the entire world :) I found him by using that system. Thanks for accidentally helping me articulate that formula in a concrete way for the first time! Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 02:01 AM
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Neat. Still doesn't change how you actually found them in reality. Which was the process I laid out. Probably could say it better with some work on it, but yup. Have fun in your belief fueled fantasy, though. That's your life. Your brain. You get to believe whatever nonsense you want. Math doesn't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:36 AM
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The numbers game is "find the people who will like YOU enough to date or have sex with YOU." if there's no "you" there (personality or interests) the numbers game is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:34 AM
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Yes. You will eventually find someone like yourself. Boring. Or someone that doesn't mind that you are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:22 AM
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So you have no personality or interests. Cool. I suggest looking for people in vegetative states.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:12 AM
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You can go with pure numbers. You'll still succeed. Let's explain looks: So women work on their looks because it's available as a form of self expression. You're a canvas. It's not done for men. You're making an artistic expression. It's like you're an alive character creation screen. It's great fun. If you made your expression physically, someone will appreciate it who has the same aesthetic tastes. If you've made no decision on your aesthetic tastes (and deciding you don't care is a decision t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 01:05 AM
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That was my first post on Reddit actually. I believe I explained why that doesn't work above. At least not while people have beliefs they want to have about gender and are unable to entertain the idea of being indifferent to it. You could just use math. Multiply people you meet/date and common sense grooming habits and you'd succeed in proportion to how many women are meaningfully similar to you in the world and how many you come into contact with. It's weird because it's the same people who say…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:46 AM
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Pretty much yes. Also people date people of similar attractiveness, social economic class, general values, taste in aesthetics; People like themselves. You like yourself. You like things like you. You are the way you are because of choosing to represent things you like. Tried that when I first used reddit. People generally don't listen because that doesn't confirm beliefs they want to have about how the world works. In particular gender beliefs. They're precious to lots of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 12:34 AM
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Even vaguely understanding and applying probability theory would be sufficient. Also explains your "success". You will eventually find people, no matter what personality you have or fake one you have adopted, willing to sleep with you if you make more attempts and are hyper focused on it. Your beliefs are irrelevant. TRP beliefs are irrelevant. Also they are bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:48 PM
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I'm aware it is a large grouping of topics, or I would say fields that it encompasses. I didn't phrase that correctly. I was using "field" to mean the range of disciplines inside of social sciences, not a single field. I think it should have been plural? I haven't heard the term with any regularity since gradeschool, since normally the fields inside of it are referred to individually, unless if you're looking at a textbook or a college directory/diploma. I was trying to refer to the larger subgr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:52 AM
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No one has ever researched or collected data on the definitive cause of the world revolving, so when you say, "the world revolves around X", you are using a rhetorical device called a metaphor, which is used to elaborate a point. It's not making a literal scientific statement. I was using it as a metaphor. Wut? In this case "the world revolves around" means "humans place a top priority on." And I would say reproducing is right up there with food, shelter, and sleep when it comes to what humans t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:31 AM
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Edit On second thought, Nope. Read over it making sure not to skim anything this time (your eyes kind of glaze over after you've read 30 things that either have no evidence outside of hateful stereotypes or are generalizations that you seem to have invented at random. Or other ludicrous sentences, like where you reference a trait women supposedly don't have...by quoting the name of that trait incorrectly, which is all from a theory that was developed by a female psychologist -____- what are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 03:31 AM
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You can't speculate at reasons for my refusal that are different than the one stated by me without a fallacy. You're speculating. When you speculate unfavorably about the speaker in order to invalidate the speaker's statement, you're hitting an ad hominem. You need to take into consideration at this point the premise you're trying to invalidate is "pixiecut thinks my work is not worth engaging in because the quality of argument is too poor" and you're trying to invalidate it by saying I have som…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:57 AM
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Your opinion is irrelevant. So when did you study logic? Oh right, you haven't. "You're obnoxious and immature! Because I said so. This invalidates your argument. I just made an ad hominem as it actually works in logic. Now excuse me while I use an ad hominem I just made as proof for my irrational belief about women being immature"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:38 AM
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Have you seen how much I've written on here? There's a limit to how much time I can put into this and I'm going to be discerning. Don't flatter yourself. I think your argument is not good enough to engage in. You can't really make any conclusions about me without an ad hominem yourself. ("Her statement that my argument is of too poor quality to bother debating was said because she "is just stuffing her fingers in her ears and screaming LALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU!") It's just not that good. I rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:31 AM
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Great, because you have no idea what you're talking about. You fundamentally don't understand logic. You haven't studied it and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:19 AM
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No, you really suck at it. Again, an ad hominem would need to be deployed with the goal of invalidating his argument. I was not addressing the validity of his argument in the first place, outside of one quip on age of brain maturity (invalid. Source: neuroscience). What I was doing was explaining why I wasn't bothering to address his argument. You can't make an ad hominem attack against nothing. I would have to make it with the goal of invalidating his argument by attacking his person. That didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:13 AM
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Oh I did. So logic is a format. You may have noticed given you are trying to site fallacies. It works a lot like math. You perform a good logical analysis via execution of the skill of argumentation. Now if you're saying that people can not perform formulas when emotional, you're going to need another paper. You are talking about the effect of emotional state on decision making, and other impairments of executive function. Already knew about that, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 02:10 AM
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What you're suggesting about your attitude towards women is much more akin to me being afraid of all boys, men, and senior citizens walking everywhere, including my blood relatives. AWALT. Oh I mean AMALT. I should be as cautious of all male humans as I would be when taking precautions to avoid suspicious looking strangers who are physically larger than myself at night while walking alone. What is that even supposed to mean? I should be vigilante for assault from anything with XY chromosomes? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:55 AM
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There are no quotes in there to be taken out of context. Summarizing your opponents argument as you heard it is basic logistical analyisis. He's free to say, "Your summary did not understand my position. That is not what my statement meant. This is what it meant."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:48 AM
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It's not entirely clear you understand what that fallacy means. Ever studied a book on logic? I'm going to guess the answer is no, but let me know your training.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:44 AM
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No, its just not worth replyig to further, those were my reasons why that's all I'm bothering to write. Unless if you like looking stupid, I certainly can pick apart the logic, but also it's not actually worth my time to do. That statement did not attack the validity of his argument, but the validity of bothering to dismantle it. Back to reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:40 AM
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They are still not mutually exclusive. Perhaps reading comprehension is not something you excel at.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:39 AM
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Forgot to reply to this. Ok, let's see... The assumption made is that naturalistic behaviour takes precedence So you need to qualify how you decided on your beliefs on what constitutes "naturalist behavior"; based on what research, specifically? From which areas of study? exacerbated by the current social environment (e.g. hypergamy and social media) Alright so now you need someone to take "naturalistic behavior" as a given (which you are more than welcome to try to establish) and then design ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 01:20 AM
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Steaming heap of bullshit part deux. Women's brains are different, but when fully mature lack the reason and logic of men. And what kind of logic exactly is it that men have? If it's the same kind you have, that would be ridiculously poor logic. Or are you an exception and all the other men are good at using logic and forming logical arguments...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 12:40 AM
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See edit, clarified some shit. Soooooooo you don't read about social sciences? Do you generally just make everything up and go with what sounds good? I'm serious. You learned about social sciences where? How about a researcher in the field to check out? An author? A professor? A book? A research paper? A YouTube video? An article in Maxim? Anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 11:05 PM
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Well, can you give me a good book on social science then? Im more than happy to broaden my knowledge base. Though I was using logic to analyze your argument, so what I said was in specific reference to the validity of your statement. I'm going to assume social scientists check their logic before making their conclusions and don't make aphorisms like "boys will be boys!" as their conclusions. Any researcher has to go through a process of logical analysis, unless if for some odd reason social scie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:52 PM
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You still can't draw backwards conclusions about why your beliefs created the result. It doesn't work. The behavior might happen because of your beliefs (arguably often the case), but the result still happens because of the behavior. The result has not happened because of the belief being sound (that is to say, logical and an accurate understanding of reality) but because the behavior created it. You have no ability to then conclude the validity of the belief. You have only concluded that your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:10 PM
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Data point one: "the world" (I would have been more specific if I were you, but hey, it's your data) Data point two: sexual urges and urges to have babies. Proposed relationship between point 1 and 2 "the world revolves around having sexual urges and urges to have babies" Supported by other data points you listed as proof of your hypothesis. Which seems rather insufficient. Also you technically need to prove those data points and their relevance, but meh. And keeping in mind all of this is suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 08:15 PM
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Well, you're trying to use your brain's powers of observation to comment on data and not art, so you tell me. Also there are scientific reasons why people like different things in art. Sorry if that ruins the mystery for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:14 PM
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Reality exists in data. Not in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:57 PM
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That was a steaming heap of bullshit. It's confusing to me how you can write so many things that either are factually incorrect (your brain finishes maturing at around 24, not 18.) or else just hyperbolic statements that are backed up by nothing but a desire to find things to confirm stereotypes. It's not even worth engaging in. It sounds like you're a troll. It's too obviously ridiculous. It read like a stand-up comic doing a parody of the new misogyny. Seriously. Well whatever, it's your brain…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:03 PM
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I wouldn't have a problem with women who choose to follow a similar heuristic, as long as they're not hypocrites and attack men for doing it as well. That's a cool perspective. I disagree with the heuristic itself, it being both a good solution or an accurate one, but I can respect your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 05:18 PM
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Probability theory would address this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:58 PM
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I think 99% is getting into the same territory you are noting about TRP, but that's a valid argument for argument's sake. I obviously disagree with you on some things, including the reliability of the observations since there is not a priority placed on scientific varicity, but am in total agreement with your statement on prefering TRP admits it is not much more than observation and anecdote. Thanks for being able to engage this thoughtfully. This does not seem to happen a lot on PPD, possibly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:57 PM
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I said probability theory. Do you want some books on it, or is reading not your thing when it's not Internet message boards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:45 PM
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I don't know, probability theory? How many people did you approach before TRP? After? How alert were you to women and sex before TRP? After? How direct were you with expressing your intent to have sex as opposed to trying to get at it indirectly while thinking your target was a mind reader? After? How often do you think about or specifically work towards the goal of having sex? I'm going to go with "way more than before". What do you expect to happen when you are obsessed with getting sex from p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:40 PM
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I don't care who you sleep with, at what frequency, and if you call the people you sleep with "sluts", "mom", "big daddy", "my wife", "somebody, anybody", "HB2", "HB8", " Mambo Number 5", whatever. I do not care at all what your goal is. The irrational nonsense? The TRP equivalent of lightbulb elves? That's a problem, and it's not even logical or arrived at by logic, so it's also in the esteemed category of stupid. Those beliefs have real world consequences, additionally. We're not in a vacuum. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:30 PM
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There's not going to be a repeatable, published, peer reviewed experiment on tactics for taking sluts to bed, for reasons that are obvious. Because scientists don't think "sluts" is a meaningful term, though they do study people who use it and why. What it "seems" to you is colored heavily by the emotional reaction that you have to it. Well, that's inaccurate. But you just affirmed that it's effective towards your goal. Which torpedoes your entire argument. Irrational beliefs for the win. I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:12 PM
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So your argument is that the premise in the op is not the premise of TRP. Cool, so now you could, if you wanted to, say what the premise of TRP is at that point. You could also answer the question if you understand why TRP premises appear to be the ones in the OP. That covers your "what's the point" question a bit further. Then you have another premise that gets introduced: why has it been concluded there is any relationship between women/men whatsoever and x? So in the example of philanthropy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:51 PM
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Real world empirical results are unimportant, gotcha. That's an inflated sense of importance you've got there. You have zero idea what your results were actually caused by, given that your premises to explain them don't have any proof whatsoever besides "this is why we think it's working, even though science has never come across these premises. But experts and scientists are incompetent, unlike us clever gentlemen" Let's take a step back into the meta-argument here. This is about to get really …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:33 PM
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Data please to back up your statement that the world and all of its populous revolve around sexual urges and urges to have babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:09 PM
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No, it does not follow. That is a different premise, though similar sounding. Ditto for a distortion of philanthropy. In the case of a logical argument, you are talking about different premises. You would be attacking misanthrope or philanthropy for a premise they do not have. An extremist can have an additional irrational premise that they themselves have elected to follow, but they have not modified the premise of misanthropy or philanthropy. They have simply added on a premise to their own se…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:03 PM
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Which is unimportant to me. The question at hand is, are you an idiot who believes nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:43 PM
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"everyone is good" "everyone is evil" isn't the premise of misanthropy or philanthropy. You've introduced a different premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:40 PM
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Which are irrelevant anyway. They think if they fail totally at solving thinking problems, but do it "stoicly", they are now correct. Which is itself a ludicrous failure at logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:33 PM
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Aaaaaaand silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:30 PM
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Mostly curious to see the reactions. And it's interesting when you have something ridiculous that people think is an exaggeration of something rational. Rational, logically sound thoughts aren't really able to be "grossly exaggerated" into insanely irrational ones; I'm exploiting defects in the logic that wouldn't be there in the first place if it were rational. The response for a rational idea/s would, realistically, be more like, "That is completely false. My premise is not that, but this:" no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 02:02 PM
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You need some sleep. I need some sleep. Let's all go to sleep. Tell your dad your current mental health issues are seriously affecting your sleep in some way that he can understand you have not slept all night, and get some sleep. And fucking hell keep working on seeing women as people. This is why TRP bugs me. I got loads of shit for being the smart girl in class, loads of people's projections. That's how I learned about gender roles. So to have people organizing to do that to other women and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:00 AM
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Fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:50 AM
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No, it disagrees with conclusions/theories generated via the scientific method in so many separate disciplines of study of related phenomenon it's difficult to list them all. But lets try! Logic, probability theory, statistics, behavioral science, neuropsychology, evolutionary biology, any other discipline of psychology, anthropology... Then you go, "I decided there are feelings here. This happened because feelings. This proves AWALT". You can't go head to head with anyone from the disciplines y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:40 AM
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I am feeling very frustrated at the fact that she tried to get me to concede to her authority-like a mother figure, almost. It was eerily similar to the way that my mother would slowly wear me down to her way of thinking. Wuh. Oh god no. I'm not a mother figure. I am a human with ideas. Just what. That dynamic is not what was happening. And shame? What? I have no idea who is attracted to you or why. It's irrelevant. I don't care. You're distorting shit I say because you know I'm a female rather …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 09:20 AM
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I did, edit added on to that comment, please read. Also to reply here: Again, best of luck on your mental health journey. It may take some therapist swapping to get the insights that will really help you tackle this. I can see you are clearly interested in getting help and getting better, but you've got to drop the TRP. It is just not reality. It is a pale, angry immitation of it largely designed to try to fuck up people who look like me for making the mistake of looking like me and not like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 08:36 AM
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If we're good here, I'm past my bed time. I think you need to invest in your psychological health and wish you the best of luck in your efforts. I'm essentially an optimist and ultimately hope to improve people's lives, but you may just be one of those people that make life as a woman suck infinitely more than it has any reason to. I'm not interested in making anyone's life suck in punishment for the gender they were born as or otherwise express. Hope you get appropriate and effective help for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 08:21 AM
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I care about them so much and their absence from my life that I fear them. So much about this fear that it's 8am and I haven't slept. That's distorted thinking. I think you know you've got some psychological problems you need to resolve, and this falls into that category. It also sounds like a possible manic phase, and I say that with the disclaimer that I am very sympathetic to mental health problems and think the stigma around them is fucking useless, cruel, and has lead to many many deaths. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:52 AM
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You're dominating this conversation and shaming me into submission. Denotes that you hold emotional power over me, supposedly with higher EIQ. OR my verbal comprehension is in the 99th percentile, I am far above average in writing ability, and you are much younger than me, so challenging your thoughts effectively isn't exactly going to be difficult for me. I have no idea why you are reacting emotionally, your emotions are your own concern. This is also how dancing works; I don't tell the story, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:28 AM
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but for my to say I don't give shit about them would be misogyny? That's not misogyny. I don't care who you care about or not. Saying nonsense about women that contributes to the bullshit we already have to put up with, leftover from when we had almost no opportunities to develop ourselves, be taken seriously, not be property, not be seen as accessories to men, and was/is used as successful justification for murdering women, isn't super cool with me. If you're not into the above, do whatever the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:11 AM
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I'm not entirely sure how I'm supposed to be good at EIQ as I socialized abnormally due to likely aspergers. I don't give men that much thought. Ever. I could give less than two fucks that you are a male. The only time that is relevant is in the case of a significant other as I am straight and the people I find attractive do have that prerequisite. Otherwise it indicates nothing to me, besides a quick alert that there is a higher potential this person is brainwashed by cultural ideaologies on mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:05 AM
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I fear women because they have wide-spread mechanisms of controlling me Most women do not give a shit about you. People care about themselves and their lives. Women are busy worrying about the things they care about. Women are living their lives as individuals with their own unique motivations that will not reduce down to "because men". This is narcissistic and paranoid, projecting a total obsession with men onto women, as if everything a woman does is after careful consideration of men around h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:47 AM
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TL;DR women's lives, thoughts, actions, decisions, personalities, and behaviors revolve entirely around the men around them, particularly manipulating them, but also acquiring and venemously shaming them. The words "raging narcissist" come to mind. Also your view of women fails the Bectel Test very spectacularly. I would love to read a fiction by you where you try to write a first person perspective from female characters. It would be entertaining. It's amazing you can't see how ridiculous it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:23 AM
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Emotions and rational thinking are actually not mutually exclusive. Rational thinking is a series of thinking tools based on logic. That's a false dichtomy and assigning emotions as a reason to discredit something. You can logically break something down and feel all sorts of emotions. It's pretty much irrelevant. What is relevant is how well you use logic. TRP is not based on logical analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:05 AM
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Previously you were still an adolescent. There's an obvious limit to how much interaction you've been able to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:11 AM
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From what I understand about you, currently you do not work, sleep until noon and are 22. How are you observing them? From a telescope in your room? Not to be snarky, but you've talked about what your IRL looks like and it sounded pretty damn isolated. When I have time I'll read the essays you and some other bro wrote on here, but unfortunately I have a life and my ADHD meds work pretty well at helping me prioritize.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:53 AM
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AWALT until said women proves it wrong. Which is virtually never Quantitative data to support that? From real world research or even a comprehensive data analysis of your own sub (never been done, as far as I know you work off of memory with a very specific bias you are invested in confirming)? But thinking is hard right? Thinking is easy. Thinking logically is quite a bit more challenging and has some skill prerequisites people are generally unaware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 01:34 AM
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I'm not trolling. I was curious how it would be responded to. I don't troll. I don't see the point of it, even.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 12:19 AM
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This is honestly how TRP comes off to some people. You might not like it, but that doesn't invalidate it. It doesn't work out to say, "you can't have your perspective because I said you have it because reason X"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 12:07 AM
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It's not meant to be funny. Insult not applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 12:05 AM
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Where are the feminists telling women not to have all these types of fucked up gendered expectations ::handraise:: I think gender ideologies are ridiculously and irreconcilably screwed up, and I'm essentially indifference towards them and what people chose to do with them, since we are realistically stuck dealing with the repercussions of our species usage of them to organize society (and destroy our potential in myriad ways yay). I'm indifferent to how gender is expressed by other people and te…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:07 PM
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The King of Bubble Town walked slowly towards the leg of lamb, legs wobbling with anticipation. There in front of him, was a majestic pile of sand. The finest variety. It cost a fortune, most notably his golden penis. Then, filled with rage, he smashed his face into the sand, snorting up the granules with terrifying speed. But it wasn't enough. One day he knew it would all come crumbling down. Then all would be lost. The glorious dreams of riding penis shaped rockets into a forest of beatles. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 04:33 AM
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Okay, so that was preeeetty nonsensical. Good job this round. My turn again! Jelly frogs live on a steady diet of carbonated lemon juice and honey frosted chex. In the winter, it is not uncommon to see the jelly frog villagers brushing up on their hang gliding skills, in eager anticipation for the yearly Super Way High Olympiad. Some may find it a bitter irony that jelly frogs naturally have a fear of heights, but those little troopers never get discouraged! How we all could learn from them, tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 04:26 AM
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Okay, now that you've said nonsense, my turn! This game is fun! So what you're really saying is that the King of Bubble Town is YOU? Once the jelly frogs know about this, you're going to go straight to the chocolate hills where they imprison scoundrels. The jelly frog army is preparing a secret attack, and you won't even see it coming. Even with your talking crystal disco ball. No sir. And all this time there you were, disguised as a loin cloth. And you thought you could get away with it. Soon y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 04:20 AM
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Okay fine. Two can play at this game. You are maintaining that you do not suffer from pathological cognitive distortions in order to preserve the King of Magic Bubble Town's reign over the helpless jelly frog villagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:58 AM
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Oh my god you have to be a troll. A+ on trolling. I do not believe that. Should I run it through google translate for every language and see if you understand one of them? English apparently doesn't work. You have to be a troll. I have no idea how you could function in the world and be this dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:53 AM
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It is logically impossible for something like 3.5 billion people to behave/think the same and believe the same thing. You have no idea what I am saying STILL. I HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYONE ELSE'S BEHAVIOR. WOMEN. MEN. FUCKING ZEBRAS. Holy shit I don't understand how you are even a real person. You are either a troll or the most damaged human being I have ever interacted with. My current theory is part of your brain was eaten away by an infection as a child and now you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:48 AM
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I'm reacting negatively to you because stupidity coupled with insanity where a person completely ignores everything you say to keep imposing thoughts, opinions, and beliefs they want you to have back onto you (you just did again, in fact) is apparently very annoying. Thanks for that life lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:31 AM
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I must have specifically and clearly refuted this about 10-15 times by now. Seriously, now I'm curious. What is your IQ? 100? 99? How does your brain fail this badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:30 AM
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Welp, I'm not an abusive dumbass. I've met a few of the male variety. I'm just lucky it never turned me into someone like you. Oh I've certainly had expectations put on me. I'm also treated like an object and my looks are somehow relevant at all times and important to discuss, rather than any other thing I am saying or doing. EVERYONE IS INSANE he says. Cogntive distortion confirmed. And your therapist supposedly said the opposite of what CBT says even though they supposedly did CBT? That seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:22 AM
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Welp, I give up, mr brick wall. Believe whatever you want to believe. Since you're imposing beliefs on me I don't have, can you throw in some fun ones? Like I believe that fish can talk but that they're really shy? And since I supposedly am defending behavior I never remotely defended (don't physics teachers need reading comprehension?) can you add in that I'm defending some cool shit? Like the population of the Planet Boogadoo from invading space pirates? I mean, if you're going to make shit up…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:05 AM
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I always had because like you, I was also trained to believe that a woman allowing me to jump through hoops counted as having something done for me. That's a pretty fucked up view, that's unfortunate you were taught something so irrational as a child. I realized they don't appreciate anything a man does for them at all, it's simply expected. not "ANYTHING" (an absolute again)? Out of the trillions of things ever done by a man for a woman, none of it was appreciated EVER or EVER will be? Does tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 02:59 AM
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This time felt different though after some time passed. I didn't do anything wrong. You could probably reword "wrong" to be more specific. Again, the problem with "good" "bad" "right "wrong is the implication that life has a certain order of things that "should" be happening, and when they don't or do it is "good/right" or "wrong/bad". This is a distortion, though one most people have to some degree and get by in life just fine thinking that. It's a bit healthier to understand it for what it is,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 02:57 AM
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Okay, here we go. I'll review all of it for cognitive distortions. Three parts because ADHD is fun and I like projects. After yet another cheater, sorry to hear that. Not a cognitive distortion the most recent one doing so for straight up cash and telling me I could either be happy for her and support choices or get lost, sounds like a horrible human being. Sorry to hear that. Hope you learned something valuable about avoiding toxic people. Why did you date her, do you have low self esteem? I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 02:55 AM
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Do you need a list of cognitive distortions I found? I can do that since you have no idea how to identify them. I NEVER SAID OR BELIEVE ANY OF THE SHIT YOU ARE SAYING I SAID OR BELIEVE Hang on a second, I'll type up a list.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 01:39 AM
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DID YOU READ THE FUCKING LINK IT SAYS THE OPPOSITE. Holy shit what is wrong with you. continuing to call bad female behavior distortions of reality I ALREADY explained I wasn't referring to that, and in fact, I have no idea what bad behavior (done by women, Not "bad female behavior". That doesn't make sense in English unless if you think behavior is gendered. Which you might because you appear to be bonkers) you were talking about because I never read about the problems you had with your girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 12:54 AM
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Correct, and you have defended that entitlement to be served and never consider a woman can behave badly by calling any description of bad female behavior (again, by male standards of morality. Women have no morals beyond cost/benefit) as "distorted reality." I really only skimmed what you wrote for obvious cognitive distortions. Things like "all" "every" "always" and then looked at the context around it and that's about it. I actually don't even know what you're complaining about or what your g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 12:46 AM
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CBT applies that to all people. Please find where CBT says there are different rules for men and women. You need so much therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 12:33 AM
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CBT directly refutes what you claim your therapists said. Just in case you didn't read the link to the CBT paper (and it might serve you to read the whole thing, clearly you need it), the heading for CHAPTER FUCKING ONE is: (bolded sections are even underlined in the text) "You, alone, are responsible for your behavior, and only your behavior." So either your supposed CBT therapists said things that completely disagree with what is absolutely one of the most fundamental concepts CBT, and all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 12:28 AM
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No room for misunderstanding Just like with the therapists right? The ones that told you things that, if they had actually said them, suggests that their license to practice therapy was probably written in crayon? You're a ridiculous human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 11:17 PM
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You're not obligated to do much of anything, except pay your income taxes. You do think women are leeches, that everyone believes women are incapable of being bad people or doing bad things, and you justify seeing (all?) women as unequals via a distorted view of reality where you are a victim of grave injustices, but other than that, mostly there's no way in hell a therapist would say what you claim if they knew what they were talking about. Guess you didn't read the link since you were busy pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:52 PM
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I said it had so many cognitive distortions, and did not specify what parts were irrational. Then you distorted that into me saying I "called your entire post a cognitive distortion" You literally just warped something into a cognitive distortion right there. Now you're babbling about what you think I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:35 PM
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What? No, therapists saying irrational bullshit like you said they did is the distortion I was referring to as well as how you think everyone else thinks. Hell, you just superimposed your beliefs about what other people think/believe onto me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:25 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? All I said is a therapist telling you that is fucking wrong and either did not happen or you went to fucked up therapists. Read the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:17 PM
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What are you talking about? I'm not defending anything, I'm saying you went to therapists who should have their licenses removed because "Men are responsible for maintaining relationships, if something goes wrong, it is because he failed in some way and it is his fault, absolutely no expceptions." is a completely irrational thought that disagrees with every school of psychology I've ever encountered or heard of. "Interpersonal rationships"? I'm talking CBT, RET? Interpersonal therapy would be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 10:03 PM
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that I was responsible for how women behaved I've been to 4 therapists over the years and EACH AND EVERY one told me NOBODY is responsible for someone else's behavior. That is a core tenate of CBT and principle for recognizing irrational thoughts. The odds that a therapist would say any of what you are claiming you were told is incredibly low. None of those are rational and contradicts possibly all schools of psychology. What approach were they supposedly licensed in? More likely, since you expr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 08:25 PM
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You do realize people have different values, and some people, even ones with penisis, value partners with ambitions and interesting careers, usually because they are that way themselves? People want different things out of a partnership. "Hot and cute" is a low bar and believing that is sufficient for half of the population is completely irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 06:02 AM
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I want a guy who is a lot like myself. I am a kind, intelligent person who is particularly passionate about my interests and career aspirations/ongoing learning about subjects I find fascinating. I will be compatible with a person I find attractive who is similar. Nice is a rather useless descriptor, and when people say they want someone "nice" usually it is after the exasperation of meeting people who had character flaws to a degree that was intolerable. A not nice guy is anything from a Nice G…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:15 AM
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Never seen that myself. The whole point is to be smug. TBP is mocking things. Constantly. Also you seem to imply feminist is a bad thing. Interesting. "Pro-leftist" is dismissive and obfuscates something evidence based into something political. TBP is people who point out that TRP is nonsense, based on it being utterly irrational. TRP is anecdata combined with male-supremicist magical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:26 PM
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Seeing as the only opinion TBP has to disagree with is "TRP is fucked up nonsense", nope. They might ban you for trolling if you work at it, and your post history might play a role is my guess. TRP bans you for having an original thought instead of parroting the fucked up nonsense. You all have the same opinion because the sidebar or mods said so. Nevermind that it doesn't make any sense in context with any scientific or historical information. You agree with the opinion in spite of that because…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 12:37 PM
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Accurate criticism of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:18 AM
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Having irrational beliefs (especially learning them from a hate group and parroting their beliefs, as all members have to in order to be accepted by the cult forum) and being called on it is not equivalent to TRP content. It isn't ironic, it's not the same scenario. TRP is irrational hate speak based around gender and the mythologies and stereotypes thereof. It's also a giant fallacy, so it can only be so offensive as it is illogical and essentially nothing more than irrational beliefs. It's har…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:36 PM
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Not trying to offend you, stating reality accurately. Not particularly sure why you chose to feel offended, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:38 AM
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Sexism and abuse are a bit serious. Sugar coating stuff isn't my job. This is the jist of why people mock TRP. Plus some users sound batshit insane and TRP frequently reaches levels where it parodies itself. A lot of TBP is just pointing and saying, "look over there" and when one does look, you find a mountain of ridiculousness, hate, and/or stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:37 AM
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Most of their theories are sound. I think you and I have different standards of proof
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:32 AM
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You "dont really"? But you kinda do? You're either a gullible person who struggles with the ability to challenge irrational thoughts about gender orrrrrr not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:23 AM
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Have you ever heard of the movie The Producers? Pretty sure Mel Brooks felt triggered by Nazism and the holocaust. So he made a musical number called Springtime For Hitler. It's that, except your "master race" is "men (particularly ones you consider 'alphas')" and your "Jews" are "females" and you're not so into killing them all because they are the only humans you can have sex with without becoming functionally gay (which is a non option due to the deep homophobia that tends to go hand-in-hand …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:13 AM
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You do all sound the same. If you have original thoughts that disagree with the mods or The All Holy Sidebar, you also tend to get instabanned. So...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:09 AM
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My first career goal was Creepy Alien Child on Next Generation. I would have been spectacular.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 09:30 PM
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If you don't like gender roles, then you believe nothing can ever really be known about men and women. That doesn't make sense. I believe you can act in discordance with gender roles as well as, the far more rational alternative to gender dogma, select behaviors which benefit the human brain in general. Also not label behaviors with a gender. They are just human behaviors. The categorization is a human invention superimposed and distorting your objectivity. People distort their own behaviors and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 07:11 PM
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I do not like gender roles and think they are bullshit. I assume people who cling to them are either too insecure or unintelligent to date. Gender binary, "masculine/feminine" ruled guys also tend to be highly annoying in my experience, when I thought, hey maybe I'm being judgmental and attempted to date a few briefly. Too much stupid, couldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:40 PM
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Everybody responds to manipulation, and the reasons why are not because of TRP's irrational theory. Some people respond by showing you the door, but TRP isn't going to go for those women. Also see edit. I covered the guys in my life too. If I were an evil person I would TRP guys and yes it would work. I can hold the same stupid attitudes as you in reverse pronouns and do the same garbage and I'm sure it would "work" on some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 02:43 PM
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I also base it on all of the female friends that I have had, all of the female mentors I have had, all of the research I have read pertaining to relationship dynamics because it's something I happen to be interested in (minus men are from mars, which is a dopey book), my family members that are female. I also have my father, brother, all of my male friends over the years and male mentors and their experiences, which don't remotely agree with TRP. And finally I have the fact that a group of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 02:28 PM
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He did not mean what you rationalized he meant, that's all I said. I shared this information, which were irrational bullshit statements, as it elucidated this point. I am fine with this finishing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 05:20 AM
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You can easily explain this by he ment TRP men would not find you attractive. Except that he implied I would never find anyone, and once I explained I had, he asked "which handbag I kept his balls in". -___- oh and ominously tried to indicate that my boyfriend is not in fact happy with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 05:11 AM
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Right, I agree 200% with it being okay to be any personality type, with what you are saying about dominance in this context (a personality type defined via a lexicon from a system designed to categorize personalities), but with no context offered, there is the context of red flags, and the dictionary definition of dominant is not a philosophy of personality type, and is far more negative in its connotation. I had a valid interpretation, and my issue with trp is the mirroring of abusive manipulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 04:42 AM
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Sounds accurate to me, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 04:19 AM
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That is such a huge generalization. It really doesn't make sense. I can argue on being an exception myself (data driven? I love data! I love attractive guys discussing data!) and that frankly I think leadership depends entirely on your qualifications; so if you pick an intetesting and talented partner (while investing in your own interests and building talents you are passionate about) leadership would be fluid depending on who knows more about the matter at hand. This is what I think is sexuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:59 AM
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OK so this leads to; if a guy is not high D is there something wrong with him? I'm guessing these personality types suggest compatibility, and that, unlike TRP appears to be saying, not all women want or are compatible with D, due to them having a variety of personality types themselves. This is a guess by knowing how similar personality assessments go (such as mbti) and this appears to be in the same vein.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:38 AM
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Cool, thank you. Is this popular with TRP or your own discovery?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:27 AM
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I would like to see more on "dominant personality types". I think if the OP said that phrase he'd be fine. I would still be able to argue it is not correct, but at least he would be attaching the verbage to something that reflects his intention, which you are saying is DISC.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:20 AM
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As long as you can make room for people who disagree with you to define their own lives, while being rational and civil, I will do likewise. But yeah if we are playing the who can be the biggest asshole game because we have incompatible world views, which we do, that's a waste of your time and mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:17 AM
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I am both smart and funny, correct. You just don't like me because I disagree with you. Which is your problem, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 03:11 AM
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There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:58 AM
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I know exactly how intelligent I am, thanks. It's been measured a few different ways and I'm well aware that I am indeed smart. If you're stalker-mode going through my post history, sure thing. Plus I'm not hiding much on this account.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 01:56 AM
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I've successfully camouflaged as a dude on trp, you'd have no idea if I had a dude esque username and switched pronouns fully Don't kid yourself, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 12:26 AM
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Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:56 PM
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Well just say that, "decisive and makes plans", because that still isn't what "dominant" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:29 PM
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Oh neat, you guessed wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:19 PM
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No.....it will fill in "narcissist" "abuser" and the like because that is what people search for. It's a decent indication that my point is accurate; that women (and men) evaluate a "great guy" or "quality guy" by quite a bit more than the TRP idea of it, including figuring out if he is a sane, decent human being. So saying "this is how women decide someone is a quality guy" and failing to mention assessments of red flags, character, personality, and mental health means the statement is not accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:16 PM
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I disagree with their philosophy of dominance, but it is dishonest to say dominant and not specify that it is a specific meaning which belongs to TRP (and maybe some groups with similar attitudes that use it as group speak too) When you say "dominant" the context I know is the dictionary and abusive relationships. TRP has a completely separate definition, and one that is central to their beliefs about reality. TRP is at the point with their meaning of dominant to warrant a special word for it or…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:16 PM
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It's mostly a pet peeve and if TRP is supposed to be a philosophy you base major parts of your life and understanding of reality around, details like that are rather significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:34 PM
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Well that's fine if that's the definition, seriously fine. My whole purpose here was to point out that for TRP 'dominent" has a loaded context and it needs to be stated as such, without context it can easily refer to mark of an abuser. And I have no problem with couples who consensually live in the style advocated by TRP. That's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:28 PM
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I'm a snowflake why? You realize how insignificant your population pool is and that you are widely regarded as extremists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:21 PM
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Sure, in the context of TRP. That's what I was trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:14 PM
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Is there an example that doesn't involve dinner? I have heard this three times now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:09 PM
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I'm saying it is a separate definition that is in fact a piece of jargon from a specific lexicon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 04:06 PM
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Well it's possible to not have someone "wear the pants" either that meaning emulating traditionally male roles (which is implicit in the phrase) or if it means having one person lead the other and that being the dynamic. I simply don't have time to dissect what you've said quote by quote, but that is also unnecessary. What you are describing to me is some sort of philosophy around power in relationships, and a complex philosophy at that. Dominant in your usage means a whole mindset for a guy and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:55 PM
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Well I base it on things I've read on healthy relationship dynamics from psychology, but OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:40 PM
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Never heard of it, but that is also an example if "dominant" being used as jargon. It has a specific meaning as defined by this theory called DISC. So you just gave me an example of someone using "dominant" as part of a lexicon, referring to a very specific and unique concept and novel use of the word, rather than a dictionary use, which is what I stated TRP does. Maybe that's what TRP means then, the DISC definition of "dominant"? Is this your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:34 PM
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Control? I just don't know why you would actively seek to be the more powerful one without it getting a little...psychologically odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:59 PM
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I'm really just arguing that it is a piece of terminology that is part of a TRP lexicon, like "hamstering" or "SMV" but they've repurposed a word in this case and their definition doesn't reeeally match what dominant means. So it either needs to be recognized as jargon with an independent meaning for TRP and likeminded "traditional dating" types or it becomes nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:49 PM
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I thought it asked for your definition of a quality man, without putting words in other people's minds or mouths. Right but if they are consistently awful, you have some pretty strong signals to leave. And from everything I've studied on the subject, you have signals EARLY on. They are very straightforward signals. Usually people are just not educated on them fully until after the fact. If you are educated prior, I think you would fare a lot better, but I'll look into that and see if I can find …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:47 PM
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This is the second time I've gotten the "going to dinner" definition of "dominant", which I'm getting just heaps more evidence is simply a piece of jargon to reference "traditional relationships", which is definitively not what many many women or men want. I have celiac disease and it is vital I decide where I eat as many places cannot handle my allergy correctly. I am dominant then? I am a leader? I must be as I am deciding where we eat, yes? If not, why? What is your subtext? What you are doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:40 PM
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That is not really what dominant means. Your use of "dominant" is, at best, jargon. If you take it for it's dictionary meaning, it doesn't add up. First, confident is not a definition for dominant, so in this case you have made the word nonsensical and changed the defintion. Also, "confident" was already stated in his list, so it's redundant now? Second, "makes most of the decisions in a relationship" sounds like the woman is dependent on the guy, which I'm pretty sure isn't a great idea, but if…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:31 PM
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This is what women respond to. Not "Where do you want to go to eat tonight ? What do you think ? Help me ? I need you to help me make this decision ?" More "I was thinking Thai. You up for some Thai tonight ? Awesome" I respond to something like, "Hey, where can we eat that won't make you physically ill, as you have celiac disease, so it's important in this context that you decide where we can go, since I don't have any authority to make a decision that involves a person with an autoimmune disea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:14 PM
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Yes, on some criteria it certainly is. It's just what you girls like. Maybe you should use your powers of telepathy to solve crimes. The disposition of an individual to assert control in dealing with others. So you're going with "controlling"? Huh. Okay, so still negatory on that being a good thing. Plus what kind of dealing with others do you think makes sense in a relationship? I think you just thought, "everybody knows assertive is a good word! This definition is good for a relationship! Cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 01:21 PM
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No, you are irrationally making up new definitions for "dominance", effectively rendering the word as meaningless. Real definition power and influence over others. "the worldwide dominance of Hollywood" synonyms: supremacy, superiority, ascendancy, preeminence, predominance, domination, dominion, mastery, power, authority, rule, command, control, sway Your new definition, for which I am accusing you of jargonization: Acting like you're in control of your emotions and able to give off an air of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:53 PM
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It is simply not enough to go off of. It doesn't reflect quality, just basic things that will probably make you more visible to potential partners. I'm not sure what dominant/submissive relationship you implied with your example. CEO : Employees? Stock holders? Board members? Another CEO? and President : citizens? Congress? (Which is wrong; distribution of power. He is constitionally not a dominant power) Another world leader? I don't think any of those are analogous to a romantic relationship. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:44 PM
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See that's the issue with quality. You would want to weed them out, and you absolutely can. There are desirable traits which are incompatible with an abuser (such as consistency). If your list fails to weed out what we can all agree are the worst partners (the kind of person that might literally kill you), how is this a quality person? And again the issue is he claims this is "according to women" as if you can know someone else's standards. If this is his standard, fine. There is plenty evidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:33 PM
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TGP is just saying what he believes women are searching for. He bases that on his experience, thoughts and whatnot. It is a massively flawed list and not something a mature person would use as their main criteria for "quality". These are more like obvious things that make you more visible to the opposite sex. You can argue a woman with those traits would stand out as a potential dating interest as well, but it is not enough to determine if they are remotely suitable. I challenge you to provide a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:28 PM
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Neato, they can talk to the "dominant" guys I rejected and my very egalitarian s/o, which accounts for anyone I have chosen to date in the past as well. Can't speak for other women because, contrary to popular belief, I am not a bee or member of the Borg army operating with a single hive mind. Though I suspect I'm not unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:21 PM
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Right so why is this list sufficient for a "quality guy", supposedly according to women, if there are zero reasons why an abuser couldn't fit this criteria? Especially given that "dominance" pops up as a trait of abusers? I've never been attracted to dominance and frankly I don't think you can come up with a definition for it which isn't suspect. All I'm saying is that by asserting this is what women consider a "great guy" when in fact that list is insufficient to weed out abusers, that shit is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 12:08 PM
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Dominant? That's more like a sign of an abuser. Not sure why you guys are so obsessed with it unless if you are either 1) insecure about measuring up to a cultural ideal of masculinity and think women will like you if you conform to an image of dominant men and submissive women, 2) actually abusive and looking for justification. Abusers use a variety of tactics to manipulate you and exert their power: Dominance – Abusive individuals need to feel in charge of the relationship. They will make deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:55 AM
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Enjoy the nonsensical fantasy you live in, Greasy Poo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 07:23 PM
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Oh look, amused mastery from a person who has mastered...what exactly? Amuse master harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 07:18 PM
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we could support all our arguments intelligently That's the funniest shit I've read in the entire time I've been on reddit. Every debate I've had on here that I followed through to its logical, rational conclusion, left the twerper or merper saying their belief is irrational and unsupported by any scientific rigor or knowledge of the myriad of subjects TRP beliefs steamroll over as they fabricate their conclusions, but they get to have it anyway because...they said so. Your arguments are based o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 06:39 PM
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I apologize if this is somewhat half-assed but I have a ballet intensive which starts in the morning and I want to get this banged out. Okay, so here we have a few issues. "Do you have any science proving it?" Common sense - a shit test is simple observable behavior of different shades, and it's not even exclusive to humans. "You have women at bp saying they do not shit test." They (and you) simply don't grasp the scope of the concept. So you are aware you are saying women lack common sense. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 05:58 AM
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Do you shit test women? Do other men shit test women (or men if they are gay)? I'd like to and will address the other things you've said of course, but I would like to start with that because it is necessary to know what you believe in order to put your other statements into a functional context (without making assumptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 08:09 PM
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My relationship, gender, or orientation does nothing to change the complete lack of statistical data or science that supports the beliefs of TRP. Let me stop you at that logic fallacy before you get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:30 AM
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I described my partner in decent detail, including our relationship dynamic. Do you want that kind of partner or dynamic? You may not. If you agree with TRP, women are AWALT and theres not much to look for in women except their looks, youth, and subservience....and that's about it. That was mostly directed at the ideal trp gives you which is HB8 who has sex a lot and who you don't take seriously because they aren't people you enjoy listening to. That's basically all trp is; some secret special k…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:49 AM
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My real point was that you can't judge what women in some general way like based on your subreddit. Because you can't, and you can't assume other men in some general way aspire or remotely want to be like you, nor that they want to be dating the women you like, who frankly sound boring and vapid. That said, if you find the kind of person that works for you, cool. I would say you have terrible standards, which does not require you to know my gender or sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:05 AM
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I chalk up my failures to dating incompatible people as well as shyness that I matured out of. I am with a compatible person now. It is so easy and fulfulling, like I had suspected it would be if I met someone who thought similar and complimentary to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:02 AM
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I think it's more interesting if you don't know my gender or sexual orientation. Then you can make wild assumptions and I can get out some popcorn to watch that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:55 AM
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Just out of curiosity, do you have more "dating experience"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:44 AM
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I think 14-16 people is decent (let's guess 25-30 if I'm including one-to-two dates sorts of things). That was time consuming enough, really. Dating is rather distracting from other goals. I succeeded in getting the precise kind of partner I wanted by playing a numbers game and refusing to stop looking until I was successful at finding an extremely compatible human. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:28 AM
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No. I've dated 4 people seriously, a few briefer relationships (let's say 10. Like 2-monthers where things just didn't fit all that well the more we got to know each other), the odd drunken stupor. I would say that one experience, namely death of someone I had known for two years and loved, in particular was helpful in not getting swept up in dating advice idiocy. I did talk at length about my current relationship, if you hopped on the comments late.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:19 AM
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Well I am dating them. So. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:16 AM
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I believe I already did, but if you mean my entire history, sure. Chapter One: The first person I dated died suddenly of a heart attack a week after turning 22, and then I learned not to be a trivial fuckwit because we are all going to die. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:13 AM
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You can't make conclusions about what women like in general by your subreddit. It is not a statistically significant population and you have no data whatsoever to backup anecdotes, which all suffer from selection bias (the type of person who likes me would never like you; they too would find your redpillian values and beliefs both irrelevant and illogical).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 12:07 AM
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I thought that was your argument; You are right because you have found an echo chamber of some supposedly impressive number of people who agree with you. (This also appeared to imply "therefore you, Iwillpixiecutyou, are wrong", which you seem to now acknowledge as a logical fallacy.) Though arguing a lot of guys agree with you is problematic. There are few original thoughts in that echo chamber, as you are all to read and only say things which prove the sidebar. So it is difficult to say you ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 11:47 PM
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Fantastic, there is an undocumented number of men who agree with me. You have no way of knowing who is in the majority. Beyond that logical dillemna, thousands is not a statistically significant population versus the number of humans on the planet earth, and there are no measurement by scientists of redpill beliefs, as they are not products of any scientific rigor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 11:41 PM
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Whatever you say, [person that understands what feminism, or sexism, is at all.] (http://media3.giphy.com/media/x0wfpJqZ1Qtbi/giphy.gif)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:23 PM
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I'm happy, so it sounding "really sexy" to a redpiller on the internet isn't really the goal here...but yeah the sex is fucking incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:03 PM
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Uh huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:00 PM
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The problem is your own flawed machinery invented this idea of "shit testing". Do you have any science proving it? You also are deciding when it is happening, when it might not even exist or may be something you do yourself while rationalizing it as something else. You have women at bp saying they do not shit test. If you have no idea how much cognitive dissonance you suffer from, how do you manage to be right about a term not recognized in any study of human behavior or psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:59 PM
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You are too irrational to have a conversation with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:55 PM
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...there's a man running his government... There should be both in government. That's about it. You know respect, for the content of people's character etc. Do you have no reading comprehension? You read nothing I wrote in my first reply and think examples that sound like mad people represent feminism and are supported by feminism? Are you a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 03:52 PM
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This is fascinating. Did you only do favors or buy dinners in order to receive validation, get her to do what you say, and receive sexual favors? I'm not surprised things went to shit. I don't see anything admirable about your motivations, I see someone who is childish. I'm not jumping through any hoops. My partner admires me for my personality, my chracter strengths, and my attitude. Basically for the things I work to be and do because I value them (and would still be doing if I were single) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 12:34 PM
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I'm assuming your government is not run by lunatics. Your prime minister is a male, the heir to the throne is one of two males (who are they? Male world leaders, and prince William is like everybody's favorite person. Tabloids don't even make up shit about him), and you are surrounded by in large by psychologically healthy people. Was there some context this was taken out of that explains why she wasn't removed from office? That said, she is not going to convince Great Britain to kill the males.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 09:05 AM
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I think we have different definitions of power. Have you heard what our congressmen say? We have bonified idiots in there. Never heard of her books. There are also idiot newspaper columnist, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm assuming she writes opinion pieces. Op-eds? Power? What? I tend to associate power with being even remotely recognizable for their works or ideas. I don't think anyone with actual power (money, prestige, achievements, public interest) knows who these people are. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:39 AM
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Well I am liked for treating my romantic partner "like people" and as my peer whom I take very seriously. I would not date someone I cannot take seriously because I have high standards for a partner. It has worked out tremendously well. If you're "a dominant man who doesn't take women seriously" and you found someone you can be yourself with, good for you. It doesn't really translate to girls in some general way liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:10 AM
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Okay well how often do men do this dreaded "it" (that apparently is too terrible to handle or "deal with"? How fragile do you think men are?)? 0% of the time? If you're at war with cognitive dissonance, you can't even give an estimate for what % men do those things you listed as the "it" which screweth over, because unless if you have 0% cognitive dissonance, you have no way of measuring anything accurately about yourself and your behaviors, either. Maybe you shit test. Absolutely you lie, absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:59 AM
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Who the fuck is Sarah Noble? Googling "Sarah Noble" received less hits (I.E one, for the tweet you evidentially referenced) than I get googling myself, so if this person is a serious threat, I am the great unifying orator of our generation. No idea who Jessica Valenti is either. Doubt she has had any influence at all in the world. -edit looked her up. Are you kidding me? a blogger? If those two people are crazy people who hate men, wonderful, they have proven humans come in every flavor of stupi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:25 AM
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If somebody is going out of their way to be understood by you and you are not listening to them, that would generally encourage them to try harder to be heard and understood (or give up and leave you alone if they have standards at all for who they interact with). It would also indicate you already misunderstood and weren't listening if they have to "go out of their way". Maybe you're just a bad listener who doesn't care very much about other people. People do not like being misunderstood. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 06:51 AM
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Are you aware that you sound like you legitimately suffer from paranoid delusions? I'm not here to accuse you of that, but I'm genuinely curious if you realize that you sound that way. How did you even arrive at this definition of feminism? The only reason feminism exists is that women were dehumanized/punished for being the wrong sex. Men being punished or dehumanized literally goes against everything feminism was created to bring an end to. You are a free human being and I believe you should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 05:21 AM
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What do you do with evidence to the contrary? Ignore it? You are irrational. Period. Are you legitimately a child (under 24 and your neocortex is still under construction)? Your terms are also undefined in ways that, again, confirm your fundamental irrationality. Print out the archive of this and either save it for the therapy you will eventually end up in or just look at it when you are older in case you snap out of this thought pattern before fucking yourself over and death spiraling into a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/15 03:10 PM
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Well, according to TRP my dating life defies the order of the universe. It was really easy to defy the rules of life according to trp. The simpler explanation is: you will be able to date more attractive, interesting people if you are attractive and intetesting. If you are above average intelligence and want a partner you can relate to intellectually, you have worse odds of finding that by virtue of being above average. You will be able to date people who look to be in your same age bracket. Onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:53 PM
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Those are not equivalent states at all. when you're single you can cultivate all kinds of meaningful relationships and have a healthy outlook on life. If you're in a crap relationship, that means you're involved in something that's psychologically draining if not damaging. you can't just lie at yourself into being happy. You have to cultivate things that actually contribute to your life. A bad relationship is pretty much incapable of contributing positive meaning to your life, and if the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:27 PM
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Nuns and priests sworn to celebacy probably wouldn't say their lives are shitty, nor that they are lonely (they are very connected to their orders and spend time with a lot of people). If it doesn't happen (or your partner dies, or you have a very hard time finding someone and go through long periods of being single) you need to be okay with that on some level and not curl up in the fetal position feeling sorry for yourself. You can indulge in self pity, but you either keep trying and play the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:42 PM
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Hold up. So I put in effort to meet the right guy this past year and succeeded. In the process, dated two 20 year olds, a 22 year old, a 25 year old, and finally went out with my boyfriend and clicked with a person like never in my life, he is basically the most awesome guy I could imagine, and he is 27. No problem whatsoever dating people I could have dated at 22. Good looking, intelligent, interesting guys. There were other guys I didn't get around to going out with because it was so easy to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:32 AM
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However, there are consequences with not marrying earlier than later. There are women who do not acknowledge these consequences. I had no consequences because: I never met someone compatible until I was 30. And I tried. All the guys I tried to date were not compatible and some were in fact shitty, immature people not ready even for the girl they would be compatible with, which wasn't me. If you have a higher intelligence it wipes out a certain percentage of people, because your minds are not rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:14 AM
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Believing in Santa Clause was beneficial to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 04:32 AM
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Ballet (and all of the support and mentors that made that possible).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 03:53 AM
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Right. Welp, good luck with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:20 AM
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I could draw it in pictures for you if it would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:11 AM
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http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw8g5fbBE11r6exezo1_500.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:08 AM
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They are not unrelated. 1) the brain is shockingly plastic 2) gender constructs limit what people can do with their brain (including learn skills) 3) human potential (the potential of the brain) is and has been fucked by this. This makes you sound unintelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:04 AM
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It didn't show, so you added it later or reddit had some special bug. That was not the point, the relevant bit was what brain plasticity says about us as humans and what it indicates about the damage, to individuals and humanity, from social constructs. Which is pretty extensive. So. Yeah That's feminism today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:58 AM
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...you don't know what brain plasticity is or you think that's the entire content what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:53 AM
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Unless if you're in the movie Idiocracy and your standard is impossibly low, it's just using words correctly in order to communicate an idea accurately. Did you understand what it said? It makes it sound like you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:49 AM
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Holy fuck /r/iamverysmart would love you. I hope not, that was a ridiculously simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:41 AM
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I'm a feminist. I don't really go to the internet to learn how to feminist or some crap like that, so I don't know what your source would be on that. Read more experts. You won't find them at TRP or wherever you're finding your "feminists". Feminism at this stage is an assertion that humanity indeed has potential beyond our socializations, and that clinging desperately to our gender narrative is damaging to individuals and the ingenuity of the species at large, as our brains are plastic beyond a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:31 AM
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Ohhhhh you mean strawmen feminists. Got it. You can have any relationship dynamic that 1) both agree on 2) does not result in maiming or death 3) is otherwise not illegal. That's about it. RP is a filter that is up cycled sexist ideology. You can do it, but it doesn't make it correct. The parts that work (besides self improvent stuff you can get elsewhere and better) relate to the psychology of abuse. The generalizations about people are horribly interpreted statistics mixed with shit we all bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 12:04 AM
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"Internet feminists" are people (who believe women can represent themselves as they have agency. I see this is a problem for you.). They also have experiences. If they happen to be women, they can represent themselves without the help of your personal beliefs and biases, especially if you read garbage like TRP and install that as your filter (which means you aren't even going by "your experience with 'em", you're going by what TRP says about your experience with "''em").
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 11:45 PM
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You could just listen to women speak for themselves. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 08:00 PM
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Well, it's bullshit. So that. Just spend any time whatsoever actually learning how to interpret statistics and study behavioral sciences and TRP disintegrates. If you misogyny hard enough you won't notice how stupid it all is. Oh, except the death part, which has nothing to do with TRP. I've dissected cadavers; Nobody cares who they had sex with or not. P.s. if you donate your body to science/medical research your pee pee will be cut in half. :) Maybe basing your self worth/view of people on you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/15 07:52 PM
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Literate people. Writing is easy for literate people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:15 AM
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I'll definitely read it and reply tomorrow (I'll try to be succinct. Unless if you'd like to start a book together :P)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:33 AM
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Sounds good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:48 AM
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For clarity, I'm addressing your post pretty much paragraph by paragraph. I hate (hate hate hate hate) the abuse of quoted sections so I don't write with them, but it is written in a similar vein to that style (just without referencing the paragraphs as I go). You might want to read yours first and have it in a window to the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 09:41 PM
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::cracks knuckles:: The way you think and your interpretation of reality is a complex network of neurological and biochemical reactions in your brain and body. It is also skill. Plasticity of the brain enables us to wire and rewire in a pattern that makes the acquisition of skill a reality. Two skills you are using that you are not aware you were taught are critical thinking and analytical skills. This was formally, if sometimes subtly, taught to you in school. The only reason we are even able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:54 PM
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Right. So assuming men and women are fundamentally different in how they think is possible how?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:41 AM
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Not only are people conditioned by their culture to express behaviors, you have been conditioned to believe certain things about women and other things about men (when a man behaves in a certain way, you make certain conclusions. When a woman behaves in the same way, you make other conclusions). You're recycled sexism. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:19 AM
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there clearly are some fundamental differences between men and women and the way they think. ^(emphasis mine) Not really, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:00 AM
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If TRP was just that, nobody would have a problem with it. If you saw women as people (neither better nor worse than you), nobody would care. If all you care about is sex, you need to find people that only care about sex. Seeing others as sex dispensers is the problem people have with TRP, as well as the regurgitated sexism (against men and women) that is used to justify seeing women (in general) as only important in terms of what they can give you sexually. You can have sex as the only goal tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 08:12 PM
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There are no typos, I wrote what I meant. You meant to use sarcasm as a conclusion to a genuine statement, which was not a legible way to use English, or you meant to forget to write "don't"? This isn't very sound logic, is it? We seek feedback to improve our process, which means we'd ideally meet and bed more women, not stay with the same one. Okay so your only goal is having more sex. Sex is the outcome you want. Let's table that for a minute. This is the part you seem especially butthurt over…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 06:47 PM
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It's hard to reply to this because it is hard to tell if there are typos or what you are trying to say exactly. I think you have misunderstood what I wrote additionally, but your statement is not communicating clearly enough to know what you were attempting to say. Assuming you meant to put a "don't" in, or that there was a bit of failed sarcasm: If you don't obsess over any one person, why do you spend so much time writing field reports and essays asking for advice about them? Why do you make c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:38 PM
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If you communicate with your partner, you will be better. If you love your partner, it will be better. I'm assuming ONS have little of that kind of communication (or time to get it right) and TRP even less communication or even basic awareness that women are people with individual preferences ("AWALT LIKE CHOKING, RIGHT?!?!?" TRP communicates with each other about what the people you have sex with want. What could possibly go wrong with that strategy.) Your sub's whole goal is to be promiscuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:51 PM
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Teddy bears were named after Theodore Roosevelt. Manly dude. I think you just hate President Roosevelt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:10 PM
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Does that mean you have a small cock since you can't do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:08 PM
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My boyfriend also acts pouty and playful. We do it with each other. He also does some mean renditions of Elton John songs in a Muppet voice. We like to goof off together sometimes. We both ask to cuddle sometimes if either of us has a fever and only one thing can cure it; more cuddling. I wasn't aware that was weird. I dislike being teased. I respond very negatively to that, it makes me uncomfortable because I don't have any natural instinct of how to play along and will take it as sincerely off…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 12:40 PM
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Yep. Nice post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 05:28 AM
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"TRP Qualities" Be successful - I also am successful and would like someone who can keep up with that and is just as passionate and hustles the same way. Workout, dress well I work out and dress well because I enjoy them. Would be OK to have this in common with S/O. Work out is less important by far, not necessary at all, especially since I like very thin guys. Weight lifting bodies are the second most unattractive body, in my personal preference. Dressing well is more important to me. I dress w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 05:22 AM
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Your approach would mean "I'll have to wait until perhaps somebody might love me just because". I am not willing to take that risk. Took it long enough. I think that was a balanced reply, but I want to make a few things clear; I started training late so I needed complete commitment and I was very shy and did not want to have sex until I was in love (catholic, old school parents) so I was a virgin until 25. I found most guys to be an unnecessary distraction, and I had specific goals. You need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 03:29 PM
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This is too broad of a question. But I guess, yeah, I think so. That is what I am trying to get people to see about themselves. Who is THAT person? That's who I want to be friends with or date (I am dating someone who thinks like I do. It is absolutely wonderful). Getting laid. Terrible goal. Do you know why guys wanted to date me? I'm a badass ballet dancer who is an interesting person. Do you know why I developed into that? I love ballet and exploring all the things that interest me. Weirdly e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 06:06 PM
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What do you mean by better results? At what? Do you have a sense of identity indepedent of gender roles? open up emotionally to women This is a red flag. If you hide your emotional state, feelings, or the thoughts around your feelings because I am female, you have hang ups about my gender and yours. Your emotions are not always an appropriate thing to express (let's say at work, unless if it is something like enthusiasm). If you actually are less emotional, you still have them and expressing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 05:33 PM
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Does that means that you blindly comply with negative male gender roles or do you ignore or actively reject them in favor if something better? That's what I'm advocating for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 05:14 PM
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I wanted to bring up what the video does with the scrolling list; gender roles/traits that people are expected to have. There was a gender role week this was a part of. There might be a better video in the bunch (they are linked in the description box). This is easily egalitarian as an overall question (what are gender roles/assumed traits/behaviors/identifiers? Might it be wrong to put people into two overly-complicated-yet-weirdly-specific boxes, because it gives each group fucking unnecessary…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 08:04 PM
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I personally work my ass off (and if you are not good at working your ass off, you need to work your ass off to learn how to work fucking better), I see feminism as breaking down self-limiting beliefs (I.E. "I'm a girl so I can't do that/I can't have that personal quality"). My personal philosophy is egalitarian, I see limiting roles/traits by gender as destructive to autonomy. You can creatively participate and deal with them (harder to do as a child. If you're a boy who likes drawing ponies, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 07:41 PM
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It's only 2 minutes and 48 seconds and has 1000 likes versus 18 dislikes. It can't be that hard to watch it and say what you think about it afterwards. I didn't ask for people to read Beowolf or something. That's a lame answer, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/15 05:25 AM
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An average looking woman with average intelligence can go through life without, without having to improve a single thing. She can end up with a husband, children, a house, a car, and so on, and all she needs for it is her existance with a vagina. I don't consider any of that an accomplishment. Getting someone (anyone, nevermind having standards) to marry you is not something I would call a special achievement. You could be half brain dead and have children. Our bodies just do that (and more succ…
/r/askTRP16/02/15 07:50 AM
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Edits to last reply because I am verbose and really want to get my point across. It is just an irrational belief to say women are not able to improve themselves in comparison to a man's ability. I could have easily believed the same thing about male humans, based on my life experience (please see essay-like edit)
/r/askTRP16/02/15 06:55 AM
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I am a human being. If I am exceptional, it is in comparison to what other humans in similar circumstances might accomplish, not women. My gender does not limit me from being a remarkable human, just as your gender doesn't predispose you to being a remarkable one. Your belief about women is bullshit. Most people fail. You need to work your ass off to be your best. You set your own standard. In the words of Steve Martin, be so good they can't ignore you. In the words of George Elliot (pen name. W…
/r/askTRP16/02/15 06:15 AM
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Yo. I posted this somewhere else, but since this is my last day on reddit, Here you go, you flaming piece of crap. What a perfect last post to read. At 16 I was exposed for the first time to classical ballet. Over the next three years I transformed myself from a shy, chubby nerd into a fledgling dancer. I was accepted into a professional program at 18 due to looking insanely young, and cross trained in everything I could get my hands onto. I studied nutrition, changed my entire lifestyle around …
/r/askTRP16/02/15 05:05 AM
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"It's not what we do" Men do rape boys, however. I'm sure some men also indeed rape other men, anyways. Probably people they know, at least a few date rapes in lgbt communities. Rapists (male or female) rape smaller, weaker people. Your revenge fantasy is ridiculous. In the real world molestation and rape are traumatic. You don't go off to be a vigilante. I'm glad you weren't molested as a boy, but many people have that experience. If you are large enough to fight off most sexual predators now, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 10:25 PM
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Quick scan of his post history and: For me I think I was around 12 when I realised I was different in a lot of ways to others and that I liked it and wasn't going to make an effort to be like them (on the inside), but embrace my nature wholeheartedly. He has embraced the douchery. Or something. Or he thinks he is a sociopath? Or a "dark triad"? Ridiculous person is ridiculous. Thanks for jumping in front of this train wreck. This is all the attention he will get today, so I'm sure he's reading t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:40 PM
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Right on, jafar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:34 PM
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Let me make this really plain for you because this is a waste of time. Everything you just said was bullshit, pretty much everything you've been saying is bullshit about Aspergers, you do not know shit about autism, and you are an adult who is trying to be a bully on the internet, which is ridiculous. You are self-righteous, which is also ridiculous given how little you know, and finally you don't know anything about me or my life, so being an ignorant idiot is not your strong point, yet you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 04:16 PM
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Er. I did not edit the definition. This is the original meaning of the word, and the only reason the word exists. This is how I talk. If you perceive it to be done to attempt to impress you, we are back at your egotism. I do not give a shit if I am unimpressive to people who are ignorant and self-important for no discernible reason. You're an anonymous overgrown bully on reddit. Get over yourself. Nobody cares what you think. You simply don't make sense, so there is nothing to really care about.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:27 PM
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This isn't a discussion. It's you making a progressively larger and larger ass of yourself and patting yourself on the back for it. What works of his did you read, exactly? His Wikipedia page?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:44 AM
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Moron: early 20th century (as a medical term denoting an adult with a mental age of about 8–12): from Greek mōron, neuter of mōros 'foolish'. So yes, when you were 5, you had a mental age lower than a moron. If anything, that was a compliment. Because I know English. Your "innocent joke" is stupid and offensive, as is your spectacular window licker comment, Mr. I Think I Have Empathy By Default. Keep googling aspergers, maybe you'll sound like you know what it actually means at some point. Like …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:05 AM
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I'm not embarrassed about who I am. It is the reason I have always been in the 99th percentile in every measurable field of intelligence (outside of EQ, I'm sure), by virtue of how my brain processes information. It's kind of neat. That said, being aspergers is stressful, and you demonstrate a cringeworthy lack of compassion, maturity, and knowledge about ASD. I just take some things literally, and since TRP is in fact ridiculous, it all looks the same to me. I'm surprised anything they say is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 07:10 AM
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I have aspergers. Correct. Also, I can't tell when you guys are serious or not because the crap I have read here is THAT backwards. Are you trying to insult ASD? You have no idea how difficult it is. I hope you're a child. If you're an adult who speaks like that, that's just embarrassing. Fuck you for that comment. People with ASD have to deal with snarky bullies their whole childhood and spend their adulthood struggling to be proud of who they are. I was too scarred as a kid to stand up to bull…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 05:17 AM
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Are you on strike from making sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 12:30 AM
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You can't be serious. Does this include reading TRP? Or do you just mean books of any kind? Do you want to burn them sometimes? Do you think "reading" always means fiction? If so, what in all the fuck? You're literally against reading any books? How do you think academics work? Or learning? That is the stupidest comment I have ever read. Literally anything that can be said can be written down, so you have knowledge, direct from the most renowned masters, available to you in any subject or topic …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 11:37 PM
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Let's say he's 6'5 and 200 pounds of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 12:53 AM
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Nope. It did clarify why "feminine" and "masculine" are inherently damaging notions. But pretty much TRP are brobots. Kind of the same guy over and over again, with the same half baked ideas. Some are more 1) offensive, some are 2) kids, some are 3) sulky and hurt, some 4) want to come across like they are college professors, some 5) are a bit dumb. Beyond that it's like a Borg army. You're all kind of the same with minor details that are different. It is as bad as I thought it was, but also mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 08:49 PM
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Treat humans with respect, both for their humanity and with awareness of your own humbling ignorance of the meaning of life. That is the only way you can treat yourself with respect and do justice to the gifts you've been given as a human being. If you dismantle the "feminine" "masculine" polarity, you can operate from the mindset I am talking about. It sounds more complicated than it is, but that's it. If, while doing this, you discover mutual attraction, be grateful for every moment and design…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:21 PM
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Feminism is about the end of attributing roles, expectations, and traits to a human due to their genitalia. It focuses on females because "masculine" refers to basically awesome human traits (with violence added in to look like a "con"), and " feminine" refers to rather shitty traits (with beauty added in to look like that is somehow a "pro", even though you kinda suck at everything and are a doormat). Don't believe me? Look up the definition of both words (find several sources and contexts). Te…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 07:44 AM
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Sperm still comes out of you and that genetic material is in every single cell of that baby. Take care of what comes out of your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:30 PM
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Oh so you will take care of what came out of your body. It may one day be located inside the cells of a baby. Great, glad you live by your own rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:25 PM
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Why aren't you taking care of the result of your sperm? Because you don't understand that your sperm is the building blocks of a human life form? So you stop being responsible at the point where you get confused by the life cycle and don't understand that the baby is still the crap that came out of your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 08:05 PM
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You understand that babies can't be born without you participating? The sperm came out of you. "I have a strict rule, if it comes out of your body, you have to take care of it." Apparently it's a very abstract strict rule because you stop taking care of the genetic material in your sperm when it gets too complicated for you to understand. You are responsible for your sperm under your rule. Your sperm eventually mixes its genetic material with the egg. So you lose track of your responsibility bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:54 PM
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Read edits. It doesn't work as an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:28 PM
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A womb does not process your sperm into a toasted form of sperm. It is a protected environment for your combined genetic material to grow inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:25 PM
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I think you're confused about what role you play in reproduction. You're more like half the bread ingredients and any female that has the misfortune to reproduce with you is the other half of the dough ingredients. The toaster in your analogy is the long gestation of humans. We could very well hatch eggs, we just happen not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 07:17 PM
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So adopt. Or get a surrogate. Or if artificial wombs come in time, use one. The sperm came out of your body, BTW. Your rule doesnt make sense if you have been correctly told where babies come from. So you stop taking care of the stuff that came out of your body when you can no longer intellectually keep track of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:46 PM
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Maybe you should try that theory out when you have a baby and see how it goes. But not your wife. You.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:33 PM
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...soooooo you really don't know that they wake up every hour or two. Every night. For at least 6 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:28 PM
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Have you ever had a newborn?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 04:03 PM
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TRP is a horror story unrelated to real life. All normal people are a horror story for you because they are disproving your insane fantasy. You need to attack them on the terms of TRPs fantasy world to protect your fragile world view. So you tell strangers who disagree with you that their wives are leftoevers and they are going to get divorced, because that's what your narrative says. You need to say that to try to keep your little bubble in tact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:49 PM
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So mutual respect is RP now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 03:45 PM
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I completely disagree with you. The greatest blessing I have is to be born now instead of in the past. Humanity is doing better than ever and I can participate in it fully, not be somebody's uneducated, mentally unhealthy walking talking houseplant. Both my boyfriend and I are courteous. That's all being a gentleman means. It means having integrity (a code of honor you actually live by), confidence, and regard for those around you. "Gentlemen" are also chivalrous, the old trope being that chival…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 03:20 PM
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I like lanky pretty boys. None of my female friends are interested in big muscular guys. Even the prettiest girls I have known would just date normal weight or slightly chubby guys. Do you live in a place with lots of beaches and gyms in close proximity or something? Like the jersey shore? I think TRP has seen too many Men's Health covers. Those guys on the cover are way too built, and photo-shopped anyway. I would take a skinny guy with a tiny bit of abdominals and maybe a small bicep over any …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 08:23 AM
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I do. I believe I should be in charge of what your penis does, as I know better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 05:39 AM
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That sounds excellent, I will be looking forward to it. (Did you check out the Maxcence Cyrin album? His cover of where is my mind is incredible.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:19 PM
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That sounds completely reasonable and was clearly consensual. Thank you for explaining what happened. I sometimes feel frustrated with trying to discuss on PPD. We all have different ways of writing and it is hard to get at what people mean without a good attitude. It's been my experience here that I can't take communication skills for granted. Some people here (no matter their take on "pills") are really not listening, and are practically trying to hunt you for some phrase they can use to warp …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 03:38 AM
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It is not an argument for blank slate. The argument is that the cultural environment is not a "correct" reaction or manifestation of differences in the brain (and that its influence is so pervasive as to make it impossible to escape and pursue alternatives without resistance from the culture around you). Further, there are many brains that do not correlate in their structure to their sex. The sex organs are formed in the 1st trimester and the base gender differences in the brain are formed in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 07:28 PM
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Plus hormones also respond to environment (including social environment). Add brain plasticity and you have a null argument for gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:27 AM
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If it is a cultural value for women to have limited roles in society, that is limiting to individuals for reasons outside of their control (born female). If you choose to not eat beef from cultural values, I doubt your ambitions and life experience will be drastically limited. If you want to equate potential for excellence and freedom to define your life to the limits of human achievement with potential for eating beef, I do not know what your problem is, but you would have at least one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:20 AM
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As far as I know in my own research, there was not a decrease in liklihood per birth. I take it back to religious beliefs in terms of why women rebelled from preganacy infrequently (aside from the fact that their perspective is not recorded in many instances). Judeo Christianity being an outstanding example. Have to work, I can break that down further asap! PS Do you have a good reference for historic family sizes? Even poor countries have benefited from modern medicine concerning birth (even in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 01:48 PM
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Very interesting! Thank you for the link, I will be looking forward to tucking into some writing on this. I think one important factor also contributed to gender roles in society: maternal death rates. Historically (and this really didn't change all that significantly until the 1930s) death resulting from pregnancy was 1/100 per birth (this is the most conservative estimate), with an average lifetime risk of 4/100. For perspective, the risk per birth was higher than the 3rd and 4th leading cause…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 01:04 PM
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Sorry that one isn't free, but I'll try to find it for free. I apologize, my brother is a librarian and gets me access to papers that are usually hard to get without paying the 30 bucks universities tend to charge. But it's a good one. I use piano solos when I study, Chopin has always been my favorite. Maxence Cyrin has a good album of piano covers of cotemporary rock that I also recommend. Free link to paper that represents my position:https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=kKW9VN-…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 12:26 AM
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Here you go, PhD who worked on the study: http://www.nica-institute.com/bridging-the-gap-between-evolutionary-neuroscience-and-new-materialism-using-the-philosophy-of-henri-bergson-a-case-study-of-sex-differences-in-the-brain/ I don't have things bookmarked in a tab for easy access so this would take time. I'm trying to do errands. Here, this paper represents my opinion.http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/aup/tgen/2014/00000017/00000004/art00003 I can't find one I wanted to and another is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 12:09 AM
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I can give you many sources that disagree with your studies, I will look for something succinct. I also think neurological differences run head first into the issue of neuroplasticity. (Bwaha. Pun.) We also believed mental illness was demon possesion and blood letting was a brilliant medical procedure. Elevator music. (for searching)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 12:03 AM
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No. That is bad statistics to a huge degree. There are so many outliers you left out of that it is insane. The radically different econonomies of those two parts of the world is one of the most basic things you would have to account for in order to make it possible to eventually have statistically sound data, but that is not anywhere near all of the factors you need to account for. You would also have to lead a longitudinal analysis of gender and careers over a long period of time, as well as co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 11:26 PM
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Cultural. I am not very impressed with evo-psych as a theory. I think our culture encourages men and women to live in slightly separate worlds, with different social rules and expectations. This appears to create/foster hostility towards the gender one is not a member of. There are culturally ingrained ideas of feminine and masculine that further influence behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:57 PM
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Radical feminists sure, but not feminism. TRP seems to be purely exremist/radical. TRP users do talk about trying to recruit male friends, and TRP has bloggers and video personalities (roosh, that bald guy with the novelty toy skull, the guy who always wears a bathrobe) as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:48 PM
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Acceptance in their pants is acceptance to you. Brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:39 PM
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You may think that just because you never slut shamed so men are by default natural slut shamers. That makes no sense. If you slut-shame in an echo chamber, you're a person that supports cultural slut-shaming. I don't care if you're male, female, trans, or a hermaphrodite. Natural? Le wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 07:21 PM
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I think it was your phrasing that tripped people up. I hear your frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:48 AM
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If you want to clear your name, go for it. If you would like to share the context, that would be a welcome response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:26 AM
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Oh really? And you know how normal female social circles work from....what source...? Cheating is a real (and messed up) action. Please describe what "slutting" is. If you mean having sex with many partners in a row, or simultaneously, TRP are almost all trying to be, or are being, sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 06:16 AM
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And this is why PPD is boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 05:37 AM
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I'm not. Why did you say your comment? The comment I replied to said women slut-shame the most/more than men by some great margin. By the way, you just slut-shamed in your reply. Calling people sluts is slut-shaming. That is the whole point. "Slut" is a trope and a slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:17 AM
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Something about being on reddit and my demographic? Was that your attempt at a compliment? It also appeared to be said to discredit my experience of never hearing a woman slut shaming or doing so myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:00 AM
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Can you be transparent with your insult, please. You're barely making sense at this point. Did you delete your comment or did the mods notice your attempt at a personal attack? You said I was not in some demographic. Which one is that and which one am I in? Or would you like to join the grown-ups in the other threads here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:14 AM
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You think I work in I.T.?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:34 AM
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Also I do not downvote anyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:12 AM
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Yes we have, Mr. I Know History.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:09 AM
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It's not an argument. It is as ridiculous a statement as your original one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:05 AM
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Cool, so women are less fucked up than men because they don't have the need to subjucate men and create a matriarchy. Sounds like women are quite a bit better than some men, what with valuing both genders in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 02:00 AM
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Of course you would never insult anyone. Please, spell it out. I want to read it in its ridiculous glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:59 AM
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...soooooo you think there were no egalitarian societies? Correct? And you don't care about the actual factors in gender roles today, correct? You need there to have been a matriarchy why exactly? I do not. Even in slavery , there was not a systematic enslavement of europeans by africans. There was a second class between blacks and whites that lasted hundreds of years, legally up until the 1960s. Systems that are screwed up, by vitue of existing, do not prove their value or correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:49 AM
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Read up about agriculture. That is not accurate. Egalitarian cultures have existed. Sexist ones spread with plough agriculture and religious dogma. Women also had a nasty tendency to die in childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:43 AM
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You want to try that statement again with enslavement of Africans by Europeans and their descendents, because that's your level of brilliance with that comment. Here's a shovel, please dig yourself a deeper hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:34 AM
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What is that even supposed to mean? And FYI I barely knew reddit existed until 3 months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:23 AM
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I already explained what kind of approaches women get. I'm attractive enough to have modeled while living in a major city, so I know what those approaches look like when they are frequent. Outside of catcalls, you will get more compliments (more from women and senior citizens, even) and that's about it The rest is up to you. I don't find many people attractive because I like lanky men with androgenous looks (pretty eyes, lips). That's an odd look. Other than that there are people that are so uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 11:16 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:48 PM
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You expect me to approach men I do not find physically attractive? What's the point of dating someone you think is not attractive? What do you think I find attractive, I need a good laugh. Next: most "approaches" on the street as a woman go like this: "NICE ASS" "HEY MAMI CAN I HAVE YOUR NUMBER". Meeting people on the street is unrealistic. If you want the attention I get but from women (preferably women 15-30 years older than you and/or without a highschool diploma), I would love to give it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:44 PM
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Meet them online. Meet them at parties. Meet them through friends, hobbies. Further, I will approach men if I find then attractive. So I would and do support other women doing so. You have no idea if you have anything in common with a stranger on the street, so it is not a good way to meet people. I don't go for casual sex, but not adding to a culture of slut shaming refers to not bad mouthing those who do and are responsible with their sexual activities. Those with risky sexual behavior may be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:22 PM
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I would attribute the assumption that women are sexually skilled to the fact that women are sexualized as young as 13 or 14 (models, singers, actresses) and used as sex objects to advertise things. In my experience, the majority of people who approach are less intelligent, not successful and wholly inappropriate men (age especially), saying sexualized comments. Women are not socialized to do this to men. The association isn't there if a woman approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:14 PM
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Stop contributing to sexual shaming of women. Understand people are more selective when they are approached. Thus, women who approach also get rejected. Understand those approaching are less selective. Nature of the beast. Most couples do not meet from cold approaches anyways. If you just want sex, consider researching swinger culture to find consenting, like-minded women. That's off the top of my head. Also, read the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 10:09 PM
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You realize those quoted statements in the OP were the beliefs the study refutes. Not the findings. Those are summarized below the quoted text as bullet points, and explained in detail in the study. That summary is from a table in the study entitled: Table 1. Incorrect or Exaggerated Beliefs About Gender Differences in Sexuality and Plausible Explanations OP, can you include the table name before the summary, so TRP understands what they are reading? Though that was hilarious that TRP demonstrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:38 PM
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That article took less than 5 minutes to read (10-15 is the longest I would guess any reasonably literate person could take to read and comprehend it). Do you have a legitimate learning disability or are you just uninterested in anything that might take away your TRP identity as Special Person because of owning a penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:18 PM
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I'm a woman. I have never slut shamed or heard other women slut shame. In my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 09:15 PM
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Clearly you do not read my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 04:57 PM
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Can't comment further without telling you where to go, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 04:56 PM
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Huh. So you're clearly not chaste. I do not respect you. Because I do not know the original context of these beliefs are religious dogma....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:33 PM
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Imma just stick this right here. Interview with former radical Islamist: http://www.npr.org/2015/01/15/377442344/how-orwells-animal-farm-led-a-radical-muslim-to-moderation Unfortunately, it appears you can't skip forward and it is a bit long, but very interesting. Summary of the process of radicalization that is detailed in the interview: 1) perceived sense of greveince. 2) identity crisis, search for an alternative place of belonging or an identity. 3) charismatic recruiter exploiting 1 & 2. 4)…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 01:20 PM
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So you have to sexually assault her (touching her genitals to look for wetness) in order to stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 12:53 PM
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Oh lordie. It doesn't work like that at all. What you just described is exposure therapy in an attempt to shut down part of your autonomic nervous system. That would be like trying to train yourself to stop breathing. Oh right but you are a special snowflake who understands everything better than neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors, brain surgeons, behavioral scientists... Life coaches is your idea of experts? Snake oil sure is good shit. PS who ends a statement with "hahaha"? What are you, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:49 PM
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Ohhhh so that's where your goalpost is going to stay? Great. You have no idea what you are talking about. Looks like someone's afraid of being seen as weak because then all the boogiemen you're afraid are out to get you will...do...something? If you're talking about achieving your goals by dismissing irrational fears that paralyze you from moving forward, that's called C.B.T. Judith Beck's website (if you actually studied self improvement, you would know her name and her father's name, doubt the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 01:27 PM
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Seeing as you said a bunch of nonsense about 12 step programs and laughably tried to crack into my psyche with more nonsense about guilt and dating damaged people, conversing with you has become a total waste of time. Your argument sucks on top of that and doesn't even make sense in the context of the back and forth here. Humoring you isn't worth the effort at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 08:40 AM
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What you're actually saying lacks internal consistency, insight, and logic. This has been like talking to a mildly self-aggrandizing brick wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 01:34 AM
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 11:54 PM
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I am not prone to guilt. He is healthier than most people. 12 step programs give people a huge support network and more coping skills than most "normal" people ever use. People in recovery are awesome and inspiring. Your whole fear of getting mocked idea proves my whole point. If you're afraid of your own emotions and people judging you for failing at being "masculine", how the hell are you fearless? I'm a huge fan of facing your fears and working smart with your brain, but crying is nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 11:25 PM
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What guilt? My bf had problems with research chemicals and opiates mostly (before I knew him), but he is what is called an addict in recovery. You also seem to be doing a version of moving goalposts in your replies. I explained my argument already and stated your belief is on dogma and not reality, based on your earlier claims, and now you have sanded it down to something that sounds like a Tony Robbins' lecture. Experiencing emotions does not stop you from seeing failures as merely opportunitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:34 PM
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No, my phone is new, not used to the autocorrect and it apparently has been programmed without drug names. Heroin. Being able to express your emotions has nothing to do with living in fear. You get it out of your system, process whatever emotion it is, that's it. Living your whole life in fear is not that at all. You can face fears and take risks without it having to do with your emotions and your ability to experience them, without having to shut them down. Those are not in conflict at all. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 10:03 PM
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That is why they do not do it, to maintain "masculinity". If you need to express a human emotion, that is not self pity. Transforming your emotions into self loathing for having them is not healthy or necessary. You have nothing to prove, so who cares if you're a human being that suffers. You can cry when your father dies, or when your life is falling apart, or when you find out you are seriously ill, or just because you are overwhelmed and hurt. Or you could call yourself names and collapse int…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 09:20 PM
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Again, you were speaking initially in a historical context that (1) femininity as the RPW sub treats it never existed, and (2) that historically women have always been oppressed/abused/deprived of freedoms. 1) feminity as ANYONE treats it today never existed. It is a new idea. Feminity as a concept, however, comes from a time of limited rights and abuse (as well as factors such as life expectancy a third of what it is now, frequent death from child birth, no birth control). Not your version of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:08 AM
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Tell me where I wrote that "anger is the only acceptable emotion". I did NOT WRITE that you said that. I made a statement about masculinity that other people believe (that a masculine man is not able to cry, express fear in public etc), not about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:19 AM
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You did not write that. But that is an idea around masculinity, not being able to express certain emotions as a "man". It might be a result of suppresing a wider range of emotions that anger or rage are more correlated to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 07:12 AM
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Which strawman? I see the snark in your comment as it is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:54 AM
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Since anger is the only acceptable emotion for so-called "masculine" men to display, have you heard of the theory that all of your emotions get funelled into anger? Speech on this: Anecdotally, I've spent time at 12 step meetings with my s/o. The men there cry and tell people they love them. They hug. Men that have serious and violent prison records. They learned how to experience and express a range of emotions instead of, say, getting completely fucked up on heroine and beating the shit out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:12 AM
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"The oppression of women went to extremes" Again, if you can provide me with a specific example of what you mean (a historical account/primary source or article, then we can look at that specifically – otherwise we are discussing a very large and expansive topic with a lot of variables etc to consider and keep in mind). http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qeSYN2c8f_A
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 05:46 AM
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I'm going to reply here as this covers most of what i wanted to reply to anyway. I am not implying a kink. I am saying ANY concept of "femininity" is an intellectual construct which has been romanticized. This is equally true for "masculinity". The original context of gender roles is no longer here. That you believe it did not include oppression of women is a bit baffling to me as the examples of women as a default lower-class are profound. One of the more basic abuse of women was in using them …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:06 PM
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This just came up in another post, if you don't mind I'll share what I put there with edits for context (apology for length) I think femininity and masculinity are human inventions which are greatly romanticized. Romanticizing does not mean disney, pretend, or unrealistic. History is OFTEN romanticized. It means inaccurate to make it better than it actually was. You can recreate this interpretation of it, but it never really existed as you imagined it. I do not think people wish to emulate the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 06:52 AM
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Thank you for your reply and I read your links as well. I want to reply to this as constructively as I can. I do not like quoting texts but will reply in sequence. Romanticizing does not mean disney, pretend, or unrealistic. History is OFTEN romanticized. It means inaccurate to make it better than it actually was. You can recreate this interpretation of it, but it never really existed as you imagined it. I do not think you wish to emulate the historical past but I do believe you wish to emulate …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 12:51 AM
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I do not troll or harass people, to confirm. That is against what I stand for. I think RPW probably are women that believe in being feminine in some romanticized version of historical femininity (if you're going for accuracy, what are now recognized as basic human rights would be violated if it was historical femininity. I use romanticized not to patronize your views but for the sake of clarity). You have an ideal femininity you want to pursue, which is your personal world view and I could be fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/15 09:32 PM
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Edits as I went, please see final. Doing this on a phone I'm not used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 11:55 PM
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Even if a dating site existed outside of reddit - word would get around, and being identified as Red Pill would cause a lot of problems for the gentlemen (and probably the ladies as well). So as a person who enjoys TBP satire, I don't think you're going to get doxxed or trolled. The reason I am motivated to satirize TRP is because of TRP literally and figuratively imposing (by means of manipulation and pretatory behavior) a view of gender on people around them that is offensive at best. TRP is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 10:46 PM
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Are you going to rock their grandpa's style? Couldn't help myself. I'll go now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 10:27 PM
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That's more like avoiding dissaproval. They would lose status if people knew their beliefs. If they did not care they would be open about it. Plus that isn't even close to the things people can get validation for or a higher status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:49 AM
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Would you say that RPW and TRP are both in allignment with human nature? If that were the case that would mean over 90% of men do not want relationships. I'm guessong outliers would figure into that but that is supposed to be a tiny population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:24 PM
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That's a fair argument. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:50 PM
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So you're saying nobody at TRP would be looking for that kind of relationship? All I'm really saying is there are people gathered in a sub who have some very fundamental beliefs that are the same or highly similar to you, who like to study the same or highly similar ideas to what you do in terns of gender and relationships between the sexes. It would make sense that you could find highly compatible people in each others' subs, and something like a tinder for TRP would possibly give you guys a ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:46 PM
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I'm assuming you choose people with the same values, whom you are attracted to, like most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:30 PM
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I believe the concept is a lot more understood now. I have known several non-monogamous couples. It is a valid, consensual lifestyle choice. If you can not be with your partner alone and want other relationships, there is language for that. Though I hope I won't have to do that with a husband some day, should either of us discover we are incapable of further monogomy but want an open relationship, I would have a conversation about if the other party will agree to that or if it is necessary to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:21 PM
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Being extremely comfortable in your lifestyle is not a compelling reason to violate the trust of the person that made your lifestyle possible. I'm sure it is quite hard to have that end. Or you can fight for an open marriage or relationship, while giving the partner you love the dignity of choice. If they flip out on you, your values may be in conflict anyway. Or they may be in the same boat as you. If you spent all that effort building a life with this person, but can't give them the dignity of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:04 PM
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Just to clarify, you are saying that the majority of women have compatible values with TRP? This may very well be accurate, I am not a good example of fitting in with the culture around me. I want to check I am understanding that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 06:54 PM
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I'm not saying it's a new problem special to you, but the women with your EXACT beliefs are all gathered in one place on reddit. It seems like you guys would be able to sculpt your ideal relationship together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 06:40 PM
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Still talking to them is the solution, rather than cheating or adultery. Maybe you want an open marriage or coparenting and its time to end it. Plenty of people have divorced parents. Therapy can help with preventing emotional trauma to your kids. If you have no kids, it is an even more straight forward conversation. "I have learned that over a longer period of time, I cannot be monogomous. I did not realize I was unable to do this until recently (why one did not inform them sooner) and worry ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 06:15 PM
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Compatibility is based on people's valueS. The things some people value are not compatible with you, no matter your looks, style, age, job, skills, surface level personality, stupid human trick you do at parties, or any other feature that might be attractive. You're not going to be able to convince a great many people to adopt your values. They simply will reject you because your beliefs are strong, their beliefs are strong, and the beliefs and core values are in conflict. You're not on the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:55 PM
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I think the concept of gender is cultural and practically all bullshit. Humans are quite stupid about it. I don't think anything is inherently masculine or feminine. They are human traits that people assign to themselves or other people and you can view them without gender goggles. Identify the human traits that you think are dope and live by them. I could care less how I'm perceived along gender lines and do not like strongly gendered partners. I look at humanity completely differently and date…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:43 PM
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I can be empathetic while not dating those people. I do not cheat on people. You just say, hey I need to break up with you because I want to do things with other people or have an open relationship. I do not date people who cheat. I can feel their pain and it's still absolutetly OK to dump them or never date them in the first place. If I can stay monogamous, and they cannot, we are incompatible in an important way. It violates my code of ethics and my values to do that. If you have different val…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:29 PM
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There are a lot of women who you will never be able to date. They are not attracted to you from square one. You are not interested in them, either. Who you end up with are people that are at least mildly compatible and that's it. You can not make any woman RP, that does not make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:20 PM
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What on earth does that even mean? I would not be attracted to your husband. I have a partner that is compatible with me and I'm sure you wouldn't be attracted to him either. We are two different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:15 PM
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I will make an attempt at that. This is why I'm saying why are you not dating each other? You understand each other while many people are just not going to think like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:12 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:09 PM
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So RPW doesn't agree with TRP...that makes sense...isn't there a post about being unable to mature past 18 on RPW's front page right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:07 PM
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exactly what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:56 PM
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TRP explains in its sidebar that women are overgrown teenagers. If you agree with that, I don't see the problem for a RPW woman complying with the needs of a TRP guy. Even if she thought she wanted marriage originally, that shouldn't be a problem if she follows her captain. Maybe he will change his mind, but he is the one in charge. You believe in the same relationship dynamic, marriage seems like a minor detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:51 PM
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I seriously don't see the conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:49 PM
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You do realize a lot of people are not interested in you because of believing what you do. It's so you can be together believing the same things. I'm sure you can find people with those common interests in that community.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:47 PM
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Maybe that's just your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:27 PM
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But RPW should just do what their alpha says, so I don't see the conflict. If alphas don't want marriage, RPW needs to stop relying on their inferior teenage brain and the goals they think they want and follow the logic of their alpha guy. If alpha says no marriage, you do that because he's very good at biotruths and thinking and what not, and you are not so good at those things. I'm clearly being smug but in all seriousness you have the same beliefs about feminity and masculinity (obviously I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:27 PM
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Stop whining about shit you can't change and fix shit you can is red advice. Actually, that appears to be the serenity prayer with cussing. "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." You left out "knowing the difference" in your version (which is not an improvement and explains a few things about what TRP pions believe is realistic to expect), but basically that is plagerism of a 1930's theologian.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:20 PM
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I'm not sure that you're looking for the right women for you with trp. There's a lot of women it repels (hand raise) for loads of different reasons, least of which is gender mythology being at its root. I have no doubt some women will be attracted to TRP, but it is not what women prefer. There is no such universal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:27 AM
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How old are you, for reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 06:30 AM
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I think it is insanely sexy. Think y'all are barking up the wrong trees, but if you like the nuts on those trees, do what works for you. Also you can't go from respect to TRP. If you had that level of respect, you wouldn't be able to buy into TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:35 AM
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Ummm, I think if we're doing a spazz competition, you're definitely winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:30 AM
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Uh no? I explained the issues that are TRP. Number three is the lid and all the nails on that particular coffin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:26 AM
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If the person does not want to have that type of relationship and you take advantage of them, yes, that is immoral. If you lie about what you want in order to sleep with them, that is immoral. If you see them as beneath you, you are incapable of truly understanding their feelings as you devalue them in the first place. You're incapable of morality at that point and you are a pseudo or actual sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 05:13 AM
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I invented the analogy. Therefore I know what the point of it was. Trying to explain the point to you is like face desking into every desk in an entire office building one at a time. If you drive your car into childen you are the person using the tool. Using the tool on people can be immoral due to what the tool is. The person using it on another person is the noun modified by immoral. The sentence was: immoral tool when used on a living humam being. If you agree using it on another person is im…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 03:45 AM
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The whole concept is that certain tools used on a person cease to be amoral. If you think a woman is not quite a person in the way that you are, you are making her a cake. Who cares if its immoral she's a feeeeeemale. That sort of behavior. TRP has very strong opinions on what women are, should be, can be, most of which is the same old oppressive crap people believe around gender. I don't care if you have a penis and dress like the Chiquita banana woman or if you're a female and I'm trying to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 01:44 AM
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...um you can not control other people and that is called ruminating. That decision is driven by not caring about you. 1) realize she was unable to communicate her needs. That might be all her. If you want to work on communicating needs, great. Can't hurt. She could have easily broken up with you instead of cheating. No excuse for it whatsoever. 2) realize you did not respond to her needs if that is the case , but also she is someone who is fine with cheating on you. Why do you need to impress p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 01:36 AM
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It is against my personal rights to be mistreated and I have no obligation to be mistreated. If you do it, that's the bottom line. There's no judgement, there is a clear standard I live by. If you do not, that is your choice. If my partner cannot understand the concept that I live by, we are incompatible and I am doing everyone a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:33 AM
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It's just an idea. If it offends you in any way or your ideas of how people should write posts, skippidy do da. That's fine. I'm not sure who you guys is. I am writing by myself. If you are not a surgeon and perform open heart surgery good luck; I can argue that (successfully- terpers appear to be amateurs at everything they talk about in their strategy) but that's just picking the analogy apart in order to not talk about morality. Unless if we want to discuss locks and keys like that (a key tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:23 AM
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That's the only way the metaphor works. That is the point of the structure of the metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:20 AM
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Only asked if you consider if your tools are 1) not amoral when applied to a living person. The example of something like this is a knife. 2) could it only harm. You can ask from there if it doesn't only harm when is it helping you and the other person to have less suffering and thrive. That's all that's happened. I have no conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:14 AM
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That is a stupid decision. If you make stupid decisions based on your emotions you do not get a consolation prize. I hold myself to that standard. Anyone who does not will not be anyone I date and should they decide to do otherwise they will be dumped. Finito.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 12:10 AM
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That links here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:27 PM
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What part of that is TRP? That sounds like social skills, being mutually attracted, and then clearly expressing your intentions. Oh wait you're bp. That's why that wasn't insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:25 PM
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It is not ever expanding. It is incredibly simple. You will accidentally create suffering as you are a human who makes mistakes. People will accidentally cause you suffering. Intentionally causing suffering on top of that is the question of morality. How far you want to work on this is entirely up to you. If the other party is immoral, you do not have to associate with people that exploit your suffering. If you do, you may be in a dictatorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:18 PM
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So when is sexual strategy moral and why? (So rather than discussing or imaginging it, doing it. It is rather easy to come up with examples when it is immoral.) Yes humans are conscious and can understand that others suffer. That is morality. We have it because we are not sociopaths and can conceptualize pain and joy in other people and can act in response to this understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:11 PM
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If I say the exact same thing I said here, non harm as a principle of morality, they should not object. I do not believe in gender warfare as anything more than an imagined game with elaborate rules all designed to feel automatically superior due to the genitals you happen to have. I am interested in how to treat people. If you are incapable of treating people well because they appear to be the other gender, you are illogical. I do not care which set you have in your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:05 PM
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Other people's stupidity is not my responsibility. If anyone can not wrap their heads around that simple concept, that I was able to explain in 3 points, I simply will not date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:01 PM
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Cheating is stupid. If your well being is being damaged due to unmet needs: 1) you do not know how to communicate your needs to your partner. 2) your partner does not care about your well being and you should break it off as that defeats the point of relationships. 3) cheating is an illogical solution to either 1 or 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:49 PM
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A tangent!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:46 PM
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Getting what you want can absolutely mean harm. I'm not here to argue anything in particular. You answered the question already in this last post that I asked in the op. That's it. It is a debate topic not an opinion. So it is fair to say your experience is that it is moral when you applied it, as it reduced suffering and increased the quality of life of the women and yourself, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:41 PM
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I think that's fine. I do the same thing or tell people as soon as I know. That's respectful, basically I think we are on the same side. Neat!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:38 PM
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I'm only asking if it is possible that it is a tool, when used on humans and not fantasized about in your mind, it is NOT benign. It either produces or reduces suffering in the other person. So it is not amoral as soon as you use it on a person, just as a knife. I'm asking you if you ever wondered if the nature of your tool, used on humans, is harmful. Is there a bright triad? What assumptions do you have to make about relationships and the other person to confirm you are doing no harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:31 PM
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I assume you use your pay to pursue things you are passionate about so that you can channel it back towards your intrinsic motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:26 PM
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How is TRP about respectful casual sex? Please post a topic on there about how to have respectful casual sex and let me know how that goes. Maybe it will go great but I doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:21 PM
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If they congregated on a sub, sure would. I do not care what gender you identify as.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:20 PM
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Some tools are not benign when used on humans. You have phrased my idea wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:18 PM
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I mostly agree with you I just have disagreements in the friendzone idea. That is not an actual friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:17 PM
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If you are not a mental health professional and trying to manipulate their mental and emotional state it is just as good as you with a scalpel. Which is also not a knife anyways, but it is a metaphor to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:15 PM
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Why do you assume your beliefs about women are correct? You are not here to give me what I want. No men are. A healthy relationship is being a witness to another human's life and caring intimately about their well being. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:13 PM
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High status is extrinsic motivation. So that is hardly surprising. I would do or study the subject of my job even if I were not paid as it is a passion and I am intrinsically motivated to do it, via my own interest in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:05 PM
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Oh wait thought you were saying something else. My experience was it did work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 11:19 AM
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The amoral are sociopaths by definition. I'm quite sure you are a sociopath based on what you would like to call "philosophy" and the tone and purpose of your writing here ("frankly abusive"? Seriously?). Oh dear, look at the time. Have a nice life!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:48 AM
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Please rephrase your brilliant phillosophical points because they are clearly not in your paragraph. I assume they are in your mind. What is this *good" I am being kept at and by whom precisely? You made the comment that people like you come in at that point. Thus I addressed you as a sociopath, having no value for human life outside of your own and no regard to their suffering, using it as another tool to reduce your own suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:18 AM
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If you increase the suffering for other people they may and likely will increase the suffering for you. If you understand that your life is better with less suffering, you may also be able to comprehend that others lives are better with less suffering and can choose your actions accordingly. People like you are at risk of retaliation, upwards infinitely in response to your willingness to harm. If you're willing to kill, you're willing to be put on death row. You just said there is no morality an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 10:02 AM
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Not at all but you would need to be quite the nihilist to ignore the effects of your actions to the world around you. It is not rational in terms of your survival to injure others, at the very least for the risk of retaliation. God is short hand, at the bare minimum, for something more important and immense than yourself. Morality is the concern for the well being of things outside and even inside of yourself. Knowing that life is finite and that suffering is a part of life, morality is the idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:38 AM
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I confront guys that appear to be doing that. Twin brother with all the same friends. It became necessary to have clear relationships and I find it works much better. I met my bf on tinder, instant chemistry, kept dating, turns out he is the coolest mofo ever. My first bf was platonic for 7 months, naturally developed. I've never really had guys friend me in an attempt to date me because if I do not like them in that way and catch that vibe, I have always talked to them about it directly. I am n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:09 AM
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I would throw someone off the bed if they pulled my hair. If I loved them I would tell then to stop that and never ever do that again. I disagree and live very differently, but thank you for sharing your rational. An intrinsic motivation is an essential personal reason. Not dying is a pretty basic one but yes it is indeed a motivation from within for a reason essential to your personhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:57 AM
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I have been ignored as well. I had to see the guy every day. Sucked. I don't think that is 90% unless I am a freakish outlier. The only reason my rejection rate is lower is more guys just want to get in my pants. Yay. They are just like the creepy older homeless guys who comment at me at that point in terms of the standard they are holding me to as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:49 AM
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Not dying or being homeless is still intrinsic motivation. Bottom of the barrel, but intrinsic. It literally means understanding what sex means to them before you have sex with them. Yes you should also ask if things are OK by your partner when you are doing new things or when the partner is new. Demonstrating respect is sexy. Edits because not used to my new phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:45 AM
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My first serious bf was my friend for about a year. We mutually put the moves on each other. I have no issue with that, but I can't speak for other people. I've lost a few guy friends I liked who didn't like me back as well. I think its more efficient to tell someone you're attracted as soon as you figure it out. The nature of your relationship is clear. If they are mature they can decline your interest and maintain your friendship. If they can't, who needs a friend like that? You know? Eff em t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:36 AM
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My boyfriend is absolutely my friend. Had I been born with a penis and straight he would 200% be my homie. Can't stand it any other way. I don't speak for other women, but just to say some will go for you, some will not. And again, unless you use rp on pastries, the point is the tool is always on humans. Is the nature of the tool on humans immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:29 AM
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I do not think they lead to robotic sex as that is impossible. The example was to say ethically null sex when you are not honest with your partner is not possible as your partner has their own beliefs about sex. You can have that sex by all means, but you have entered into moral questions. Women absolutely can and will withdraw. There will be many women that choose not to involve themselves with men that behave certain ways, including TRP. Honesty is not that difficult. You can tell a child the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:23 AM
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If you are having sex with an emotionless, aimless, thoughtless robot, you're able to be amoral. Sexual relationships are important to people (for some people it's important that they aren't important, but true ambivalence is not what people have). Your sexual conduct reflects a lot of deeply held beliefs. If you enter into sex via manipulation, you're essentially using another person's emotions, thoughts, and beliefs to get what you want (sex) regardless of the impact on them, which will be far…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:58 AM
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Except you are not dating children and by college I certainly hope your teachers do not need to manipulate you to do things. Further, there is intrinsic motivation and the desire to master a skill. Children are not stupid. Most children wish to learn and acquire skills. It is not unpleasant. Surgery is based on expertise. If you have one mental health professional in your ranks, I would be stunned. I appreciate the tone of your response, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:50 AM
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The point is you're always using the knife on a person, not a cake. There's a very limited context when a knife is going to be morally good when used on a human. I can't even think of an amoral example that isn't ridiculous. Once you use this on people it's a moral issue. As a side note, I would rather eat my shampoo than have an "alpha" man in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:41 AM
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So if I decide to stab my roommate to death with our kitchen knife: bad. Decide to cut her birthday cake: good. Where this breaks down: the knife used on a person in any way means inflicting a wound to them. That is the nature of the tool. Have you ever considered that your tools ONLY wound humans? Maybe that's why you have to see women as something closer to the cake. Not a human that can be wounded but an object. A knife is amoral. Cutting a cake is amoral. Cutting a person is immoral. Now if …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:02 AM
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If you don't believe in anger you will repress it and create avoidance behaviors and other maladaptive coping mechanisms. You can do it by all means, but it won't end well for your quality of life and possibly your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 06:56 AM
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I know. The internet is a flashlight on some faith-in-humanity depleting behavior, but remember it really is like a flashlight. It's a very narrow beam in a very large world. There's a lot of wonderful and beautiful actions that we may be in the dark about, but knowing they are there is important for the sake of our sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 06:37 AM
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I guarantee you'll find all the shitty ones with that belief, because you need to confirm that belief to justify your behavior and actions. Meanwhile all the not shitty ones will float on by and you won't pay the slightest attention to them in order to feel right that people are shitty. It's a personal bias and I'm sure you've made decisions based on it that you would need to defend. It serves you to find shitty people. There's enough people to find exactly what you want to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 05:31 AM
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So what you're saying is you have no idea how the brain works and apparently have the opinion of someone living in 1920.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:25 AM
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Anecdotal, but just to throw this in: I've dated mostly younger guys since I was 25. No special reason, I just look young and I didn't reject guys for their age. I don't buy that men care that much about age. If you're an attractive, interesting, and charismatic person, you can date more people successfully. You may not be compatible as people, however. I think intelligent, well adjusted people understand that the compatibility of your lives and personalities is far more important than youth. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:42 PM
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Way to shit on everyone with ADD. That makes you sound intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 12:14 PM
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I messaged him on tinder. So I approached him. So yes. No idea who suggested meeting up, but may have been me. It was after a few messages because you can't tell if you get along by text. Then we both showed up and we got along very well. It wasn't magical at all. Who talks like that. Seriously.I just get along with this person. I invited him out for our second date and set up the date itself. I don't sit back in my life. I'm not a fucking princess. Please understand you have no idea what my exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 07:31 PM
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I understand your points. Well thought out and I appreciate the time you put into them. I mean, it took foreeeeever to find a guy who gets me. He genuinely thinks I'm pretty without makeup, which is a side note, but I know what you mean about makeup. There are still, however, some guys that like makeup and a natural face. Makeup is always a show. Even subtle makeup is a show. Its just a PBS show instead HBO. I don't think I know what guys want in women or what women want in guys. My strategy eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 08:15 AM
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Well, I guess if you're average and like average, its a fine strategy/way to look at it. Makes enough sense. Thanks for your write up. The ten years older thing depends on the woman. I'm 31 and have had 4 or 5 guys who were 10 years younger be interested (and met more that wanted to go out on like okcupid and crud like that.) I'm abnormally young looking, so I know that's unusual, but just to prove it happens to some women because they may not look their age. You usually look your weight if you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 04:21 AM
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I read that poorly. Have the flu. Fair enough argument. So not all woman are attracted to that alpha descriptor? What would an equivalent concept be in describing women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 01:22 AM
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So women can be beta and alpha? Plus, not all women will want the alpha clustered traits. For example, fitness. I like very skinny, lanky dudes. I do not like built up muscles created by weight lifting or on most athletes. I think the issue isn't misogyny as often as a pervasive belief in male supremacy. Sometimes more blatantly than others. Edited. No can English right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 03:08 PM
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Well some people wait to have sex until they are in a committed, loving relationship, or until they themselves are more mature. Not everyone is ready to at 20. It wouldn't matter if someone was a virgin or not if one person has decided they are not ready to have sex yet. Maybe 20 year old male virgins are not in demand because enough of their female peers are also virgins and do not want to engage in sex at that point, or want to ensure their first experience is special, or want to know the pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 02:40 PM
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That is poor statistics at work firstly. I can easily say what you have about codepency/narcissm about your alpha/beta. Guess which of these concepts is in the DSM-5? Narcissistic personality disorder. The discussion on codepency is active. The concept is used by mental health professionals. That is rather sad you are using an organization that successfully treats addictions and has saved easily millions of lives. It implies you are completely ignorant of 12 step programs. Until we can pinpoint …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 06:29 AM
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Sounds like narcissist/codependent. That is not an insult. Those are nuetral when not extreme. In order to have homeostasis, partners need to be close to neutral or on opposite extremes. Codependant women loooove guys like that. Yes. There are also passive and active codependants. One is similar to the narcissist, the other is a people-pleaser who will do whatever the narcissist wants, including destroy their own boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 05:53 AM
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Unequivocally yes. That has been debunked. The wolves studied were in captivity (1960s science FTW). In the wild, wolf packs consist of the mother, father, and their offspring. Your "alpha" is actually "dad".http://io9.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629 Since we've entered Doctor Monroe's Island of Animal Pseudoscience, here is our genetic similarity with different species: Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanz…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 04:59 AM
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If I can pipe in: 1) handsome (to me), compatible good personality: Date. 2) not at all handsome in any way (to me), (if not attracted to, can not ask about compatibility) good personality: Nice human being. Good for him. Do not date. 3) handsome (again, to me), dumb/incompatible/bad personality/abusive: Do not date. For reference handsome in my opinion is androgynous lanky men with striking features, especially eyes and lips. Super thin, no large muscles. Awkward boyish skinny dudes. That's jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 12:57 AM
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I am not being disingenuous as I disagree with the classifications of alpha and beta and any legitimacy of using them, even as a substitute to deal with greater complexities in human behavior. I am asking why it is considered an adequate method.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 12:40 AM
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I would rather speak on it, as it is more important than a cutely titled book. I may end up in that position or not. That adds or takes away nothing from the importance of understanding sexual ethics and the serious reality of the effects of not understanding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:25 PM
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If people were more conscious of what sexual ethics are, both in anthropology and daily life, this sub might not even exist. It is the study of human thought towards the existance of sex and gender, historically and forward to today. Being upset that others are making themselves aware of the value of those questions only makes you appear ignorant. Your comments on colleges are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:11 PM
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So you're saying there is such a large spectrum of people that classifications such as short or tall are rarely of importance? Or that TRP classifications are as unarguable as height? Does that mean there is an average that is neither alpha or beta? I'm gathering TRP lumps several ideas into these categories, but to relate it to classic theater techniques: on stage there is a high status and low status. This enables comedy especially. This is what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:53 PM
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That's fine. Why is it a binary set of characteristics? Or one characteristic for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 08:50 PM
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Nope, I feel like I have the bubonic plague. I'll show you my thermometer readings if you'd like. His response is what he should have done in the first place. It's a very long response. I'm going to be typing out my response for at least as long and be thorough. If you don't believe me, do not get a flu shot and find someone to catch it from. You will have the time of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 09:47 AM
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Thank you. This I can work with. Give me a bit to reply. I have been home with a 101 degree fever and just entered the stage of the flu where I am suddenly lying in a puddle of sweat. Will write thought out reply when better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 02:44 AM
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You don't ask yourself these questions. If they bother you, that says more about you than anything else. Why are you unable to answer the question and de-arm it, if it is loaded and your view is logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 01:16 AM
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Okay so isn't men's hypergamy worse? He will always lose attraction to her due to women aging according to TRP. So he will have to throw her out when he finds a new, shiny girl. Or have sex with the girl on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 01:14 AM
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That's fine as long as I get to apply it to men. If TRP is justifying the need to have sex with many women, wouldn't that indicate men's nature is to ride the vagina merry go round and are willing to change their personality to get that? TRP sounds like an elaborate excuse to justify the urge to have sex successfully with women. Why are TRP incapable of valuing their own virginity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/14 01:02 AM
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Seems to be what you're doing. If you can't summarize your opinion, I am inclined to believe you don't know what to say. Nice art. Oh shoot you deleted it. It was eye catching.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:37 PM
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Laws protect many people, including men and children. Why should we protect other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:35 PM
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Why was that law made and voted for, as opposed to against? Why do we continue to agree with this law?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:29 PM
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Yes, I also own a textbook on it that I'm reading (not for school, just to ask questions about the origin of human behavior towards the fact that we have two sexes). I have the flu and a temperature of 100.9 and don't feel up to working on this right now, but yes it is a legitimate area of study that can be found in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:15 PM
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It's a field of study that looks at subconscious and conscious actions. You can believe it has merit or not, that's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:09 PM
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He is universally good? Even though as HHL states, there is no universal ethics? Your second comment indicates you are a male supremicist of some fashion. I do not respect those types of persons and see no value in speaking with you further due to your being a bigot. No offense, I am not interested in humoring bigotry. Thank you for sharing your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 07:05 PM
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Sexual ethics are social constructs that influence individuals and institutions. Rape is illegal due to agreement on a matter of sexual ethics. You operate under learned ethics around sex as well as personally selected ethics around sex. Most of the constructs will tend to go unexamined, especially if you believe they do not exist, but you will still follow those constructs, if only because society pushes you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 06:11 PM
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It also relates to sociology and you study it there as well. Does that make society real?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:57 PM
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Not damaged (though that's a possible reason to like a limiting world view), but people who bought into male supremacy and attached basic human traits to masculine traits. Some traditionally masculine traits are positive and you may have built those up. I also have built up those traits, with my belief, hang on, stronger than that, conviction, that they are human traits and I am free to pursue them, and I improved my life. So that seems fair enough to me. Thanks for your tone in the reply, appre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:43 PM
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You can go to University to study ethics and study sexual ethics there, as it is part of the curriculum for attaining an undergrad or graduate degree in that field of study.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:29 PM
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Ok. So your official position is that sexual ethics do not exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:17 PM
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So you don't make any decisions based on sexual ethics? No men or women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:13 PM
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If women are not AWALT (and there are more than 3 kinds of people), it would be possible your personality change altered which humans pay attention to you and why, correct? I also find that building up my assertiveness and confidence has improved my relationships and life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 05:08 PM
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What makes a man "good"? What makes a woman who has had sex " bad"? Why aren't sexual ethics involved? Definition of sexual ethics to prevent tangents: Broadly speaking, sexual ethics relate to community and personal standards regarding the conduct of interpersonal relationships. This includes issues of consent, sexual relations before marriage or while married (such as marital fidelity, premarital sex and non-marital sex), questions about how gender and power are expressed through sexual behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:55 PM
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You changed because something pressured you to? Isn't alpha better than beta and that's why you decided to go on a self-improvement sub to accomplish that? It seems everyone is categorized into those types, what other types are there?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:51 PM
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So good females do not want or care about the male's past as well, because multiple partners is ethically bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:48 PM
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So three types of people exist. Isn't the strategy to make the AWALT behave in a way you benefit from, hence domesticated?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 04:44 PM
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It's supposed to be "Magotes"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 09:34 AM
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