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JHarbinger/r/seduction16/01/13 02:02 AM
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She clearly wants to die on this hill to make an irrelevant point 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 04:36 AM
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I mean, fair. Most guys don’t REALLY get their shit together until 30+ Someone didn’t like my chubby broke ass in ‘05? I get it. I’m not mad that you like me now at 45 when I’m rich and ripped. I get it. I’m a better catch now than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:46 AM
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Totally. Not sure what that has to do with what I posted though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:28 AM
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Separate point but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:28 AM
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You’re replying to the wrong person but yes- I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:27 AM
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I’m in the 0.1% The dating market is very very real. Not sure what you’re even smoking implying that the very topic being discussed js somehow imaginary. lol It’s not up to me to make your argument and prove it. That’s on you and your evidence (anecdotal nonsense with a handful of people) doesn’t meet the bar at all. Everyone can simply look around and see that most women by virtue of simple math, cannot date a man making $200k+ The argument itself is silly and even if you could prove it (you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:02 AM
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Yep I’m in the Bay Area. Believe it or not, even software engineers have standards 😂 Northern California might be a decent market for a below-average woman to find a man making decent money, but it’s very difficult, regardless. Your anecdotal evidence is cute and all, but it doesn’t stand up for the tens of millions of other women who can’t date someone making $200k/year because they simply don’t command that value in the dating market. Are there some exceptions? Sure. Cool, but the random excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:33 AM
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Not only that. Many men making that want to date more attractive women and plenty don’t make the cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:57 PM
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Most women actually cannot do this. They’re not able to date a man at that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:45 PM
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Femcel vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:27 AM
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“Nah” I’m an athletic guy who wasn’t bullied, worked security and could fight, etc. I literally never meet other men and wonder if I could beat them. I literally don’t care. Perhaps once you’re no longer 17 years old and build social status (the non-cave man version of real status here in 2025), you don’t have to pretend to be alpha anymore because the high school football captains are either your colleagues, subordinates or selling used cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:55 PM
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Not really. I’ve had these loud dogs bark at me before. One fell down the stairs (hate when that happens) and the other got arrested and they asked me if I wanted to pursue this or just drive him a few blocks and cut him loose. He was still barking so I let him spend the weekend in jail before he could see a judge. Maybe in the caveman days one had to worry about this, but likely even then, big guys who were assholes to everyone found themselves against 2-4 smaller guys and it was lights out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:52 PM
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Both groups are kooky losers to be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:50 PM
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lol exactly. Idk why this hit my feed but it’s entertaining af
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:50 PM
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Make sure you get offended and touchy and emotional about everything here on Reddit. It seems like you’re exactly the right fit for that group of lonely cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:49 PM
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I’m all good with independence and stuff but all I see in there so far is a lot of whining and blaming men for their problems and low self-esteem nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:20 PM
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They sure don’t seem good. Lots of whining and insanely low-value behavior. Looks more like the unwanted and scorned as opposed to quality women opting-out. It really looks more like MGTOW/incel stuff for women. I wish them luck and happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:08 PM
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Just looked at that movement holy shit what a mess… and what a cluster of dysfunctional, mentally unhealthy women. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:54 PM
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Let’s call that one “peer reviewed” because as your peer, I concur 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:24 AM
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Maybe because we lived in smaller tribes? Growers were maybe at a disadvantage or maybe, since people had so much exposure to one another, they saw the shrinkage, erections, etc. Also, men are generally clustered around a certain size that is likely Much MUCH larger than early pre humans and certainly much larger than apes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:17 AM
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Human males evolved larger penises than apes literally (in part) because of females selecting for larger penis size. 🎤💥 That doesn’t mean you need a porn star dick to be attractive though (of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:12 PM
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Insane take from an insane person
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:54 PM
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Women already do this. Not sure what you’re whinging about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:39 PM
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Nobody is saying men can’t love a fat woman. We are saying we aren’t often attracted to them. That’s a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:16 AM
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It’s amazing how this woman thinks her anecdotal n=1 opinion here is any indication of how women generally behave 🙄 Women slut shame way, WAY more than men. Often to drag each other or enforce group norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:13 AM
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It’s not. Everyone hated him in his BUD/S class and nobody trusted him. Shocker.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/04/25 08:48 PM
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Makes sense. I know guys like Dan Bilzerian didn’t make the teams because everyone hated him and the instructors made an executive decision despite his performance during BUD/S
/r/PussyPassDenied23/04/25 05:18 PM
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What’s “peered out”?
/r/PussyPassDenied23/04/25 03:53 PM
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Yes you’re right. I should have clarified. LEGALLY you’re potentially still on the hook if you do this, regardless of what the website encourages you to do, how it functions, etc. Federal Copyright law doesn’t care about how Twitter works etc.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/03/25 01:24 AM
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You cannot legally share someone else’s work, generally speaking.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/03/25 01:13 AM
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This guy OnlyFans
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/25 04:50 AM
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You’re right about the separate cases / issues, but copyright infringement is generally civil (as opposed to criminal) unless you’re talking about a larger operation, usually involving financial gain. Something like mass software piracy etc. Downvote all you want. You’re still wrong. I’m a lawyer with experience in IP. 🤡
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/25 04:49 AM
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Great track and I’m not even into that music genre at all
/r/PussyPassDenied04/01/25 06:11 PM
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What the fuck did I just read?
/r/PussyPassDenied16/04/22 02:24 AM
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Got ‘em!
/r/PussyPassDenied03/10/21 11:33 PM
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“No, Americans are supposed to be white, duh. Facts don’t care about your feelings! <temper tantrum in reddit comments>” /s
/r/PussyPassDenied24/11/20 05:39 PM
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It's been a tough time for the listeners AND the team, who I obviously have to put first right now. All I'm able to say here (assuming you know a little about the legal process) is that I've left with most of the team and now we're doing The Jordan Harbinger Show. If you come with, that'd be great. That said, I don't think we're losing much of the audience by not letting people in on the inside baseball. Truth is, most people don't care because it doesn't really concern them anyway. Best of luck…
/r/seduction05/03/18 09:06 PM
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The hosts and team moved over to The Jordan Harbinger Show.
/r/seduction04/03/18 09:16 PM
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Super thankful to see this shared here. Thanks man!
/r/seduction23/06/17 11:43 PM
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You got it man! Lots more on the way! Also make sure you check out http://www.theartofcharmpodcast.com/toolbox which is where we put a lot of the core AoC stuff like you mentioned above.
/r/seduction22/04/17 02:51 AM
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Thanks for sharing this. It's SUPER old so I hope y'all will listen to some of the newer ones too. For this subreddit, you'd probably like the core toolbox which is at http://www.theartofcharmpodcast.com/toolbox Thanks fellas! I'm glad you enjoy the show.
/r/seduction19/04/17 02:09 PM
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Have you seen The Art of Charm Podcast? That's basically an entire podcast about the things required to mesh so-called 'seduction' topics with business and social science/principles. Link: http://www.theartofcharm.com/podcast
/r/seduction14/06/16 02:42 PM
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Hm, strange. Here's the message in a nutshell... I hook people up with program grads once they put down a deposit. I do this because it separates the tire-kickers who would waste our alumni's time and burn them out from the serious buyers. If they hate what they hear from the alum, the deposit is refundable. I'll tell you what, send me the best phone number for you and my assistant, Jen, will be in touch to help us get the ball rolling. She'll also send over some program info for you to check ou…
/r/seduction13/05/15 06:31 AM
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check your inbox
/r/seduction10/05/15 09:38 PM
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Jordan Harbinger here. I'm biased so won't offer to review or influence. I will offer to connect you with a program graduate and direct you to reviews on BBB or Yelp (also linked below). I'd have alumni post here, but last time we did that, some mod accused us of spam and deleted it all, so it was just a waste of time. Feel free to also call or email the office and I'll happily send over some resources about what we do to help inform your decision. John is also great, so you'll win either way on…
/r/seduction24/04/15 09:08 PM
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Love the rec. Best place to start is here: http://www.TheArtOfCharmPodcast.com/toolbox And http://www.TheArtOfCharmPodcast.com/best
/r/seduction22/12/13 05:34 PM
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Yeah we may put something like that together, but if you go to http://www.pickuppodcast.com and look for the tag "books" or "book reviews", you'll see some. The rest are on our program prep page for AoC program students.
/r/seduction27/01/13 03:09 AM
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no problem man! Yeah that's one of my old favorites. Keep it on your phone so you can refer to it instead of memorizing.
/r/seduction22/01/13 12:11 AM
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We have some prep reading for The Art of Charm programs. Maybe we'll make that available someday.
/r/seduction22/01/13 12:10 AM
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Yeah no worries. I know Brent says to do that, and that's fine, but there's more to the story when that ends up working. If we want to maximize our success, we need to do things differently. :)
/r/seduction22/01/13 12:10 AM
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Congrats. (?)
/r/seduction17/01/13 11:28 PM
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You GAVE them your number? Don't expect a call. Always get THEIR number. It's not their job to call you to hang out and move things forward.
/r/seduction17/01/13 11:28 PM
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Hey man that's great. Do they BOTH think you want to hang out, or did one take your number? Right now they're probably confused as to who you're actually interested in. Fixable though, because they may actually work it out among themselves. Now, time to schedule some facetime and see what shakes out :)
/r/seduction17/01/13 07:19 PM
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I'll break this up to keep things easy: 1) You're trying to keep it strictly hook up, or "WE" (you AND her) are? How do you know how she really feels? Just asking here. 2) Sounds like she's less interested since she's not responding via text. Could be lack of interest, could be out-of-sight, out-of-mind. We can't tell just from your post. 3) Can't tell if you're trying too hard from this post, as I don't know what level of 'effort' you're throwing out there. 4) She may have found another FWB. Ag…
/r/seduction17/01/13 07:18 PM
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Engage each of them in conversation, don't escalate on either of them while the other is there. I'm guessing you're just friends with these girls?
/r/seduction17/01/13 07:10 PM
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It depends on the situation, but often women aren't used to this, since most men will trample their grandmother for a chance to speak to an attractive girl.
/r/seduction17/01/13 06:18 PM
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Sounds like you know what you need to do! :) ...now you just have to do it!
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:26 PM
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Sit in a high traffic area of the bar, meet all the staff by going early or during off-times, make a spreadsheet of regulars' and staff names so you don't forget, tip well. :)
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:25 PM
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I think we just crossed wires in a weird way. Re-read the posts and it doesn't make sense that we're not on the same page. Anyway, enjoy the PickUp Podcast and the AMA. :)
/r/seduction17/01/13 06:36 AM
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You're mistaking what I've said for arrogance. I'm just as happy to be talking to them. They can talk to their friends anytime, and they came to meet new people. And no, sigh...I'm not trying to AMOG anyone, ever... Especially not on the interwebz. No need to get snippy. I've helped plenty of people here. It's not my fault you didn't like what I had to say in response to your question. Good luck! :)
/r/seduction17/01/13 06:21 AM
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What's keeping you from moving to a place where you're happier? Not trying to be a smartass -serious question.
/r/seduction17/01/13 06:11 AM
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I'll address these invisible scripts piecemeal. 1) You're not "BECOMING" someone else just to get women. I'm asking you not to be such a wiener about interrupting people who probably want to talk to you. That's not a core-level identity shift. Do you think women should lose weight, dress nice, or put on makeup to be more attractive to men? If so, then are you ASKING them to BECOME a totally different person? No. You're asking them to maximize what they've got. Nobody is asking you to be an eliti…
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:51 AM
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I tell plenty of anecdotes about myself, but only when they make sense, and they're not memorized or pre-rehearsed. I know it's hard to believe, because before I was comfortable in my own skin, I too found it almost unbelievable that a girl could like my ACTUAL personality without any fake bells & whistles.
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:47 AM
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Hahah awesome question(s). 1) Yes. I have a playlist for this (or two). Mostly world music that's got a downtempo/chillout vibe. It's relaxing, sophisticated, and the words are in foreign languages which adds to the exoticism of the event without engaging that ol' left brain verbal/logic area. 2) I've got a Philips light I bought overseas that has 16 million colors, and I use soft colors to light the room funky. I also make sure that there's some background music to drown out homeless/drunk fool…
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:46 AM
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Oh I'm all about getting married and having kids. I'd be married now if I found the right girl years ago, etc. You're right -I never really discuss it. Perhaps I should.
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:43 AM
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no problem. It's an inconvenient truth in the industry.
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:43 AM
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Hey man! 1) You can use it as an advantage. Think of some funny banter that you can use for it, and use the fact that you're memorable to an advantage. People won't forget you, and they don't expect you to be confident. A good friend of mine, Sean Stephenson, is in a wheelchair and just married an awesome girl. 2) Don't try to 'act' more experienced. No need brother. Be you. 3) Generate attraction using the fundamentals at http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox :)
/r/seduction17/01/13 05:42 AM
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Right on! Welcome!
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:42 PM
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Asked and answered :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:37 PM
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You're welcome my man!
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:37 PM
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Thanks man! Enjoy! It may be noisy, but it may not even matter. Coffee shops are noisy too :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:35 PM
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I flirt with a lot of women, interested or not. It's not hard to be nice, but yes, I don't escalate with women I'm not interested in, etc.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:35 PM
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Or you could try it, instead of doing what you're doing and expecting the results to change.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:33 PM
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As a group, it would seem you may have similar issues, but nothing is a hindrance unless you allow it to be so.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:33 PM
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Haha no problem! :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:32 PM
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Nope. I use no routines, and memorize nothing. It's not that I don't realize I'm using routines, I'm just not using routines.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:32 PM
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I've lived and worked in 7+ countries and the principles are the same, as they're based on biology, which doesn't differ across cultures. You may have to calibrate things differently, but all the fundamentals are the same.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:30 PM
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I'm going to just refer to the fundamentals, as they're the same, regardless of race/ethnicity. http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:29 PM
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Meditate on this, grasshopper.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:29 PM
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Haha wrong assistant! :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:28 PM
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Nah. Attraction comes BEFORE comfort, not the other way around.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:28 PM
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That's a bit off-topic, but the gist is that I was nabbed by a taxi driver in Mexico when I was 20. He ended up getting choked out. I was abducted for a while by Serbian State Security police in 2005, and ended up escaping narrowly.
/r/seduction16/01/13 11:28 PM
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Banter banter banter :) I'm jealous -it's sooooo easy for you to meet new women in college. Ah, college! ;)
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the kind words -tell your Indian friends about PickUp Podcast & The Art of Charm brother! :) Glad I could help! -Jordan
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:07 PM
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Depends on a lot, but I'm never a fan of "warming things up". Just ask her out if she likes you and you know this. Don't do movies -you can't talk or connect during this. Go for a walk around town, grab coffee, continue the walk, then walk her home if you can. Perfect first date.
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:06 PM
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I didn't have a sister. To be honest, I used to think the same, but now I know PLENTY of guys with sisters who are equally clueless. There's really no correlation between having female relatives and being good with women. There are too many other factors involved.
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:05 PM
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He's great! Teaching a bootcamp in the next room right now!
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:04 PM
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Any time you escalate physically you risk rejection. There is no effective way around this. That said, if you escalate and get rejected, the best policy is to be honest, then let things cool off for a while, and try to go back to being friends. But then, don't just hang out in the friend-zone hoping one day she jumps on your wee-wee. It won't happen.
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:04 PM
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I agree, only that's not really advice, just a vague recommendation. Then again, stuff like this is why I have a job and why The Art of Charm, Inc. exists. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:03 PM
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Shows confidence, and to be honest, most girls who are attractive think that way when interacting with men, conscious or not.
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:01 PM
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Plenty of guys in your shoes brother. No shame in that game. :) Being younger, you're going to run into the objection that you're too young for them. Say the same thing back with a smile, or even say it BEFORE they disqualify you for being too young. "Hey, I wanted to come up and flirt but I think you might be too young for me." They'll get a HUGE kick out of that one, and if you hold your ground (i.e. Don't get all riled up if they start off poking fun at you for being a young dude) you're goin…
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:58 PM
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Yeah forget memorizing all that crap -it doesn't work nearly as well as being authentic, and being honest is liberating. I often walk up to girls and tell them they look 'super cute' and then ask their name. This is as simple as it sounds, BUT you have to have your nonverbals down and actually BE confident while doing it. You can be nervous, fine, but you still need to be confident at the core by having the fundamentals down.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:57 PM
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My pleasure! 1) Are you trying to 'get out of the friend-zone here or are you trying to get a girl without falling INTO the friend-zone? There's a massive difference here. :) 2) For sure -the attraction toolbox is all about generating attraction. Once you've got that with a few girls, it does become easier with the rest, and you're less needy, because you have the power of choice/abundance which is one of the antidotes to neediness. 3) Appearance/looks are only one channel that women are looking…
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:55 PM
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I'm not going to type a field report, but I talk about this a ton on the PickUp Podcast, so have at it. I either drink 2 drinks/hour with something non-alcoholic in between, or I don't drink at all and save myself the calories.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:13 PM
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Hahah it's okay to be quiet in general, but you do need to be able to either banter or go direct, and transition to rapport (refer to the toolbox here). Also, if you're not interested in that, change the topic! If that's ALL she has to offer, then she's not the girl for you!
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:12 PM
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Thanks! Come with us next time: howtogotonorthkorea.com
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:11 PM
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Touche ;)
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:11 PM
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Maybe, or maybe you're the forbidden fruit (same thing for white guys by the way)
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:11 PM
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Hiking/sports/walks/etc. Most of my dates are also free (see my other post on this)
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:11 PM
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Go direct. It's harder, but not canned or ridiculous at all.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:10 PM
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It's all the same. There're no changes other than managing less experienced females.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:10 PM
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Thanks man! Actually yeah, loosening up with some improv exercises before going out is what we do here at The Art of Charm. You can replicate by watching some comedy and bantering with people the second you leave the house rather than waiting until you get to the bar to "turn it on"
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:10 PM
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I live in Hollywood and get hit on/flirted with by gay men a decent amount of the time. The mechanisms are the same, the difference is that you need to be able to tell who is into it and who isn't.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:09 PM
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Guys are thick. What you think is obvious may not be to him. Why do you want a guy who won't man up? In any case, if you're comfortable taking on the role of the man, go for it, but if he's not leading now, he probably never will.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:07 PM
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I used to go out alone all the time and still do occasionally. It's fantastic for meeting people.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:06 PM
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If you're scaring girls away, then yes. Banter/smile and use body language to your advantage to mitigate this.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:06 PM
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Good point, and I agree.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:05 PM
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True story. Just remember that women have a LOT more to overcome in the relationship department, and the tables turn for LIFE as soon as sex is on the table.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:05 PM
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You're so young, enjoy it, and realize that it will end (and probably not in marriage). Be okay with that, be okay growing from it, and realize it's finite, and that's okay too.
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:04 PM
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There are a lot of self-sabotaging invisible scripts running here. Do you see them?
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:03 PM
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Thanks for the note and for the kind words. We are always glad to hear how the show has changed someone's life for the better, and thanks for sharing that. As for pickup guys being gay -no surprise there! I won't mention names, but I know almost everyone in this industry, and even people who compete online for business hang out and talk sometimes (for example, a well-known 'top PUA', who is one of my top competitors, is also one of my close friends). So word gets around. In any case, a LOT of pi…
/r/seduction16/01/13 05:03 PM
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Hey man! Yeah I'm checking back every few days for the rest of the week just in case people see this late. Why not, right? :) Anyway, the train/subway is GREAT for this, because people aren't doing much of anything. Sure, some people don't want to be bothered, but look at it this way: You're a girl on the subway listening to Justin Timberlake for the 10,000th time, and a confident guy steps up, smiles warmly, motions to you to take off your headphones and tells you you're cute then asks you your…
/r/seduction16/01/13 04:56 PM
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Again, I'm not sure what Reddit's policy is on asked & answered questions, so I'll just refer to the fundamentals that I explained and linked in the other answers to this same question: http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox
/r/seduction16/01/13 04:54 PM
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I'm not sure what Reddit's policy is on asked & answered questions, so I'll just refer to the fundamentals that I explained and linked in the other answers to this same question: http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox
/r/seduction16/01/13 04:54 PM
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Thanks man! That's why we keep making them! Let me know if you have any guests you'd like to see on the show. Always keeping an eye out :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 04:53 PM
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Hm, well at least you're relatively polite! :) The problem here is that you're likely being 'too nice' which is being misinterpreted as your being awkward.
/r/seduction16/01/13 04:52 PM
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Yes. Your body language shouldn't be full-on facing them, etc. That invasion of psychological space is probably what's freaking them out. When you're talking to women (at first), stand side by side with them. Then you're giving them some psychological breathing room so-to-speak. :) If you smile more, you'll also become more approachable. Think "teddy bear" as opposed to "pro wrestler" :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 08:27 AM
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Well I'd request (on behalf of others here seeking help) that you don't push your issues on everyone else.
/r/seduction16/01/13 08:25 AM
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Build as large a social circle as possible. Having no on-campus housing might be a great way to make your place the social hub of your class. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 08:25 AM
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Ah yeah, been kidnapped twice, about 5 years apart. Once in Mexico and again in Serbia.
/r/seduction16/01/13 08:24 AM
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Yep, 100%. Sounds like someone's been listening to our show and passing along the advice as well. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 08:24 AM
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Generate attraction. Attraction & sexual tension are what keeps you out of that zone. If you're in it already, then move on.
/r/seduction16/01/13 08:23 AM
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You can definitely talk about what you do once you've gained attraction. It'll help if you know how to make it relatable to the layman of course. The conventional PUA line of thought that one shouldn't talk about what they do is asinine.
/r/seduction16/01/13 08:22 AM
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Thanks bud. We're only half the equation -you guys put in the work too! :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:21 AM
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How so my friend? :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:17 AM
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Someone's bitter about their ex, n'est pas?
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:04 AM
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Yeah man, sorry. The thing is, once you get choice with girls, you won't care. Just make friends with this girl and hang with her whole circle. Eventually one of you will change jobs or departments or whatever and then you can do your thing. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:03 AM
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Just helping people. Good luck with that.
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:02 AM
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You're already friend zoned from the sound of it. Feel free to flirt back, unless you know her boyfriend, in which case, step off. Just because she's flirting doesn't mean she plans to act on it or leave her boyfriend. Just because she has a boyfriend doesn't mean she's not flirting with you or interested in something more.
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:01 AM
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no problem man. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my indian buddies, they just all have the same issue there. Thanks for reading. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:00 AM
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"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right." ...and no dude. Date asian girls. They're all smaller than you anyway, and cute as hell. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 07:00 AM
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1) You transition from banter to rapport via qualification. If that sounds like Greek, check out the interaction map episode of PickUp Podcast (at http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox) 2) Rapport topics usually revolve around her. It's pretty easy and simple -don't overthink it. Again, refer to the toolbox. 3) I prefer direct. Cuts the crap and demonstrates confidence right out of the box.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:59 AM
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1) Don't come on too strong since you see them all the time. 2) Make the first date sporty. From my gym, I often talk about hiking the canyon near my place here and meet them there. It's free, public, fun and shows that I'm not trying to impress her. Pretense falls by the wayside when we're both sweating out butts off on a hillside. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:58 AM
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I won't lie, looks matter to a certain extent. Thankfully, you're a guy, so you can overcome this without taking a massive hit to your attractiveness. Most of what hinders you is your lack of confidence BECAUSE of the deformity, not the deformity itself. The key is to put this stuff into practice and get enough positive reactions and feedback from people that you start to realize that you CAN do this. Once you get on a roll there'll be no stopping you bro.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:57 AM
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Anything negative. That means: complaining about something, war/unemployment/politics/etc are all no-nos. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:54 AM
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I recommend going direct during the day. If you can't do that yet because of fear, then start with something innocuous but transition QUICKLY to banter and connection or you'll fall flat.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:54 AM
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Game On (our SiriusXM show) ran its course. That said, there's still some reply of the show on SiriusXM 104 from time to time, and we may end up back there someday -who knows. Thanks for the props on The Txt Book. :)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:53 AM
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hahah eventually bud! We get a LOT of Aussies here at our LA programs, probably because: 1) We're in f-ing LA baby, and; 2) We include accommodations, so it's convenient for guys to come up here and do a program, run around California, then hit Vegas and fly back home to Oz. :) -Jordan
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:53 AM
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Is there a question here? To be honest, your problem isn't 'closing' at all, it's attraction and connection in the first place.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:51 AM
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Just don't do it. :) ...unless this is my assistant, in which case it's all good as long as AJ doesn't find out. ;)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:50 AM
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Thanks brother. I'm glad you dug that answer. I know it sounded harsh, but it is quite true -and I've got PLENTY of love for my indian homies :) Getting out of your head is a matter of "being in the moment" -which is a very woo-woo way of saying "be present". Some people recommend meditation, which is great and all that, but I think doing some sort of exercise each day has helped ME with this, because I burn off some of my excess energy that keeps my mind rolling at a zillion miles/hour. I also …
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:50 AM
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The key to meeting more women is approaching them. I know that sounds insanely obvious, but it seems like that's what you're asking. Forgive me if I misunderstood. As to the first part, I'd recommend approaching her and telling her that you think she's cute and start a conversation. If that's too ballsy for your current level, then try approaching with a bit of banter (part of the fundamentals toolbox, here: http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:46 AM
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Well, the quick answer is 'Banter'. It's what most people mean when they say "flirting". That said, it seems like you're trying to avoid rejection here, which is a losing strategy. The real trick is to get to the point where you don't really care anymore, which requires a bit of 'exposure therapy' of sorts. If you want to start slow, banter and flirt in a non-threatening way at first (http://www.pickuppodcast.com/banter). That said, low-risk = low reward when it comes to attraction. That's why b…
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:44 AM
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Spoken like someone who knows absolutely nothing about the opposite sex... It's crucial to listen to people, especially someone you want as a partner for the rest of your life. Perhaps you should troll somewhere else? Some people want actual constructive advice and help. Bye!
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:42 AM
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Sure -practice the fundamentals: http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox (sorry to keep harping on this, but it's the basis for confident communication, so it seems necessary since many questions here seem to want quick fixes or advice)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:40 AM
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Thanks man! Glad I could help here. Glad I checked back hours later to see follow-up questions... As for openers, I never really bother with the formula anymore. At this point my confidence level and communication let's me skip a lot of that and be quite direct. I still banter, but only if I feel like bantering and flirting and being funny, not because I "have to" in order to get some kind of "in".
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:39 AM
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http://www.pickuppodcast.com/best http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox That's where the gold is for the new guys.
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:38 AM
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My experience was that I let most opportunities slip by and all my girlfriends had chosen me (as opposed to the other way around). Start with the fundamentals: http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:37 AM
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Uh huh...and what're you doing here at 10:30pm? ;)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:37 AM
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Don't sh!t where you eat. (Don't date coworkers)
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:36 AM
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No man that's fine, and is probably a good sign. As long as it's not ego-driven and you're not "too cool" to learn new things and/or grow in other areas, you're just fine. Don't feel pressure to keep pushing this area of your life to the max if you're not dissatisfied with it, but also make sure you never stop learning! :) Thanks for the kind words on the show -Gary V was a good one!
/r/seduction16/01/13 06:36 AM
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Okay guys! I'm calling it -got a hungry bootcamp waiting for me. Feel free to email me JordanH [at] The Art of Charm and stay in touch. Our podcast resources are all here: http://www.pickuppodcast.com A good place for beginners to start is here: http://www.pickuppodcast.com/best ...and the fundamentals toolbox is here: http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox Thanks everyone! :) -Jordan Harbinger
/r/seduction16/01/13 03:30 AM
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Great idea man. Thanks again for the kind words on the show.
/r/seduction16/01/13 03:14 AM
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But honestly, hang out with them for after work drinks, or invite some of them for drinks with you and some female friends. Whomever shows up is interested. Easy.
/r/seduction16/01/13 03:13 AM
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You set yourself up for potential rejection whenever you show interest. When you don't show interest, you essentially ENSURE rejection. Your choice.
/r/seduction16/01/13 03:13 AM
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Great question. Here's the truth, in order. 1) Your ethnicity is a hindrance here in the US when talking to 'regular white girls' -forgive me for being blunt, but I don't think sugar-coating this will help at all. You CAN get around it, but it means getting rid of an accent if you have one, and recognizing certain cultural characteristics that women find unattractive. For example, a lot of my indian buddies overthink everything, over-analyze, get in their head about EVERYTHING, and never take ac…
/r/seduction16/01/13 03:12 AM
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Nah, don't overthink it. Maybe he is, but probably not. If a guy is approaching you to chat, you should assume you have a chance with him. Even if you're wrong, it doesn't matter, does it? :) Guys are pretty simple creatures.
/r/seduction16/01/13 03:03 AM
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I'd say get the fundamentals down. Try http://www.pickuppodcast.com/toolbox (all that is free, no strings). That'll get you the basics of body language, eye contact, approaching, banter, etc. Then go out and actually DO it to shake the rust off. :) Congrats on beating depression man!
/r/seduction16/01/13 03:02 AM
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Do you think he's interested in you? To be honest, if you just want to sleep with him, this is super easy.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:55 AM
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For the most part, yes. The body follows the mind, so proper mindsets take care of nonverbal communication, which is most of the key.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:52 AM
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My pleasure man! Here we don't use routines at ALL. I never used them when learning charisma or social dynamics. I think they're a huge waste of time, and counterproductive.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:49 AM
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To be honest, The Art of Charm coaches men specifically. Happy to indulge a bit here though. Is this a guy you're in a relationship with? Or a random dude?
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:49 AM
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Yeah some dude downvoted, but it's okay. He'd rather read ebooks and posts than actually do anything, and that was his passive-aggressive way of letting everyone know that, anonymously. ;)
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:48 AM
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Haha sounds good! We have NYC programs coming up soon. Justin will PM you here.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:42 AM
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Yeah man. We can help you out with something. Obviously our programs are a lot more than that but Justin will ping you and see if there's something that can be done. As for Johnny, he is totally badass. He's a rock musician and the head instructor here. He's totally different than anyone you've ever met in your life...I can promise you that much. He'll also surprise you with the level of insight that he has about you and where you're getting stuck with the opposite sex.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:38 AM
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Haha we both know THAT's not true ;)
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:33 AM
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I know this was requested by a mod here, so I'm guessing a lot of people are silent. I'm happy to wait for a bit and see if things kick up.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:29 AM
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That's actually a great idea! I'll email her for sure. Thanks for the kind words on the show as well!
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:26 AM
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In fact, if you're starting a conversation with guys, you probably wouldn't care if you interrupted. Treat women the same.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:21 AM
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Definitely! Honestly, girls are out at night to meet people and have a good time. Feel free to jump in there. No need to "wait for an opportunity". In fact, that could be strange just standing there waiting for an 'in'. During the day time, I simply start a conversation no matter if they're talking or not. It may seem rude at first, but my mindset is they should be glad that we're chatting now, so anything they were talking about can always continue later.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:21 AM
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I usually meet women wherever I am at the time. For example, today I was eating lunch at a local thai place and reading, and chatted up the girls at the table across from me. Other times, the grocery store or coffee shop. At this point, I don't go out with the purpose or intent to pick up or meet women.
/r/seduction16/01/13 02:16 AM
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