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They have such an arrogant, entitled attitude, that during their prime years they simply tell each other than any man that judges you on your past is slut shaming you and therefore not worthy of you. This advice may work for women in their prime, particularly those who are a “7” or above (even though men shouldn’t tolerate this behavior at any age). Doesn’t work so well for a 30+ year old fat chick with a couple of kids and a bad attitude. But they’re all like “YAAAAAS GIRL SLAAAAAAY!”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/19 12:42 PM
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Love how they use all this convoluted logic: don’t date multiple guys to protect your feelings from ghosting. But DO date multiple men to figure out what all your kinks are, and “explore your body” and shit. Yeah, ladies what a great idea!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/19 12:28 PM
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My friend, not trying to minimize your pain at all, but I’ve definitely learned that it’s better to be single than to be in a relationship with a bad or even mediocre woman. The problem is magnified considerably if you marry and impregnate one of these women, because now the State has her backing. We live in times where probably most women fall into this category. The problem is that it’s very difficult for a man to arrive at this conviction without having first hand experience in a relationship…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/19 11:50 AM
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Yeah, these women probably are more inclined to view “alpha” as equating to a true dark triad, sociopathic, guy, who has the battle scars of the hood to prove it. While I’m sure you find these tendencies amongst women in the higher classes, they’re probably less likely to insist on a thug or deadbeat as a precondition to getting involved with you.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/19 05:41 PM
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“Hey I can’t marry you yet! I haven’t even experienced midget porn!”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/08/19 10:57 AM
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Ain't that the truth. Like--bitch, your an asshole for even asking the question! Like she needs to crowdsource this issue--what part of her behavior and thought process isn't a massive red flag to any dude that wants a shot at happiness in a LTR with a woman?!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/19 06:09 PM
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"... but when you blurt out "around 80" in front of a guy who you are really falling for, it sounds awful." Bitch, it doesn't sound awful. It is awful!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/19 06:02 PM
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Yeah, I think the ball is reasonably in his court at this point. Particularly if there isn't any established exclusive relationship here, I think it's always preferable to treat communication like something of a pingpong match in the early stages of a relationship, while you're in the midst of ascertaining the other person's level of interest. You've made a nice offer to him here with the above. It's clear from your prior behavior with him that you're not in a purely "platonic" relationship. If …
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/19 05:50 PM
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Unfortunately I can't tell from your post what this guy's past or intentions are with you. I'm rather skeptical that a 31 year old guy who is willing to not have intercourse with a woman he is seeing regularly over a 2 month period is just looking for sex, at least in 2019. But it's a crazy world, and I'm sure there are some players that play a long game. My only point is that once we as a society have accepted widespread promiscuity it introduces some challenging elements into even the most sin…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/19 09:04 PM
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I gladly waited until marriage for my wife, because she was a virgin on principle, and I wanted her to be secure in the knowledge that I wanted to spend my life with her, not just be involved in a physical relationship with her. If, however, I had the misfortune of getting thrown into the general dating pool of women, most of whom have engaged in promiscuous sexual activity and hookups, I would bail on the first notice that a given woman was making me jump through hoops that she didn't make othe…
/r/RedPillWomen08/08/19 05:27 PM
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Also you have more to lose now: it's all fine to be crazy about women when you are 20, your hormones are going out of control, and you have nothing to lose. Once you've started to build a financial empire, and have a life so to speak, you want your women high quality and drama free. But sifting through the available pool of women takes time to actually find such a person, and even if you do so, you have to still consider the wisdom of marriage with the current family court climate in many Wester…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 09:46 PM
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Yeah I think people are unilaterally focusing on the fact that this new study shows the number of sexless men are increasing. It shows, however, that the number of sexless women is also increasing, but at a significantly lower percentage. This suggests to me that there is more than one variable at work here, and not simply "80% of men are unattractive to women." My suspicion is that there is a male voluntary withdrawal element to these numbers, even if it's not necessarily the primary factor in …
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 09:38 PM
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Precisely. While Hollywood actresses are of course much better looking than your average woman, every city--hell every high school that is of sufficient size--has females running around of comparable attractiveness. She's an outlier more because of her wealth than her beauty, and that extra wealth and fame comes with mega doses of ego, and hypergamic baggage. If a man wants to date a hot woman, it would be a greater investment of his time to just keep hitting on local "8's and 9's" in his city, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/04/19 06:44 PM
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Of course can't give you a magic formula, but just some random suggestions if you are at all considering having a family, especially with marriage in mind: (1) Would avoid seriously dating a girl over 25 (although probably most younger than this age have slept around as well). Young attractive women in their prime who none the less get with you, when they have options to sleep around, are more likely to be legitimately "into" you. Women approaching and after 30 are more desperate, and on average…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/19 07:19 PM
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Don't want to marry a feminist harpy? Manchild. Having the innocent child growing in your womb dismembered because reasons? Strong and empowered.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/19 06:30 PM
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Ugh these guys are such Uncle Toms, and I have nothing but hostility towards them. It's not just the pandering to women--this asshole is actively encouraging this woman to bring a child into this world in the inherently abusive framework of a single mother household. It doesn't matter if she claims her intentions are noble--even if she tries to do it all the odds are greatly increased that she will be hamstringing her child, particularly if it's a boy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/04/19 06:29 PM
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Yeah, I've started to think that there is some value even if the OPs themselves might be trolls, to reveal how women actually think about these things.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/19 04:57 PM
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Therefore, in terms of business, the man will be providing his end of the bargain his entire life, while the woman, hers for about 25 years or 1/3 of her life. While I wouldn't view marriage with a good (as opposed to your average) woman purely in such terms, focusing just on the two factors you raise above, the "value" of access to her body depreciates in value, sometimes rapidly, given the obesity epidemic, and the fact that women appear to hit the wall sooner than men, whereas the odds are gr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/19 04:56 PM
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I think that sounds pretty good, but I think no-fault divorce should either be abolished (especially if kids are involved), or at minimum completely financially disincentivized. While I realize theoretically there can be rotten marriages that fall short of abuse or adultery, it's way too easy for the woman to get a golden parachute simply because she claims to be "dissatisfied" for whatever stupid reason. I'M NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE HERE, but I'm really surprised there aren't more violent attack…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/19 04:39 PM
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Honestly it's so much more gratifying to simply hash out these issues in a male only, or largely male only, sub-there is none of the denial of reality, out of excessive deference for the feelings of women. As soon as you introduce women into these sorts of discussions, men almost instinctively start to defer to their feelings, which immediately results in compromising truth, or white knighting behavior to curry favor. Get some female mods, and suddenly your getting banned for anything remotely t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/19 09:16 PM
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Yeah, while the post doesn't contain any of that arrogant, entitled garbage, it's worthwhile critically analyzing posts like this. The sort of guy she's looking for--one that would actually give a LTR, and especially marriage, a chance is precisely the sort of guy that should get used to ruthlessly screening women. It doesn't really matter how nice this lady comes across, the odds are very high that if you were in a LTR relationship with her, you would be expected to function as a father WRT pro…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/19 09:07 PM
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I'm willing to bet that she would not of been interested in any of them if she thought they were easily obtainable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/19 09:00 PM
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Honestly, it took her years to figure out the obvious, and now feels entitled to an audience to express her vapid thoughts to, with complementary boob shots thrown in for good measure.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/19 08:58 PM
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No way bro, Wilson totally mastered aloof jerkboy game, and could pull chicks if he was still around today.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/19 08:56 PM
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She demands the push-pull of a guy who doesn't want to be in a relationship with her. I'm willing to bet that there were enough decent looking guys that were willing to give a relationship with her a shot, but they lacked the unattainability that she fetishizes. It's the classic female double bind--she wants a guy that simultaneously wants her, but doesn't want her at the same time. The more pathological the female, the more she will constrain you in double bind scenarios. I also find this woman…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/03/19 08:52 PM
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I think many women can't truly appreciate that a large segment of men are perfectly willing to engage sexually with women of mediocre physical and emotional attractiveness. Since women are more likely to engage sexually with men they have a stronger interest in--the cream of the crop--they assume that when a man is willing to sleep with them he must regard them as being of a similar caliber. Nothing can be further from the truth. Unless a woman is both highly physically attractive, and has a swe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 09:11 PM
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The obnoxious thing is that you know those less than savory aspects of her character are exactly what's she's like on a day to day basis. After the new relationship energy wears off, and they're now playing house, the incentive to reign in the worse elements of her character is eliminated, and those elements to her personality will come out again. She's basically saying "Now that I'm infatuated with you, please give me the opportunity to present a false front, so I can ensnare you!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 09:04 PM
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Absolutely. I don't see how a guy who has observed all the garbage behavior women exhibit in the SMP, would regard it as a selling feature that she's bragging about all the guys she's dating. A naive 18 year old might think "I got the prize," particularly if the girl is objectively attractive, and expresses a preference for him. A man in his 30s with any self respect would either not engage with her at all, or demote her to plate status for being arrogant and egotistical.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 08:58 PM
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And potentially children and spouses of their lovers, and future individuals who their children come into sexual contact with (particularly if their children's approach to dating/sex is influenced by the parent's marriage), and even children their children have. There's an incalculable ripple effect. These issues cascade across time in ways we can't fully appreciate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 08:53 PM
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I think clarity on certain negative patterns of behavior women exhibit is very important for men to fully explicate, as this is how we collectively help each other to hopefully avoid getting screwed over by this gynocentric society. I appreciate your posts, even though I realize this was partly in jest. There certainly are plenty of men (especially young, naive men) that will take a woman's claims of prior relationship "abuse" at face value, not realizing that there is a hell of a lot of manipul…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/19 02:29 PM
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There's also the simple matter of how one conducts oneself in the setting of doubt, if we can't mediate amongst the three alternatives you mention with absolute certainty. How many other contexts in life do we find that it's acceptable for a human being to engage in "possible" murder, or the "possible" taking of another human being's life? I can't just throw a window unit air conditioner out of a high rise apartment window, based on the presumption that I might only possibly kill a human being i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/19 02:23 PM
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I think she has to get real though. Obviously it's her life to mess up, but I don't think it's ever reasonable for a single mother to insist on a man that's in the top 10%; it's not actually reasonable for the overwhelming majority of women to insist on a man that's in the top 10%. She may reason that her height puts her in a rare category, but she has it backwards--most guys don't want to date Wilt Chamberlain--her unusual height if anything makes her less attractive not more (at least for me--…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 05:17 PM
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Usually when I see some dude insisting that female friendships are valuable, I think that he's either (1) delusional, and just can't admit that he wants to sleep with a woman that's friendzoning him or (2) suffering a lack of decent male friends. I'm not talking about the strategic social proof utility of an attractive female that you might be able to parlay into meeting other women. That's a game that can be played if you're sufficiently skilled, but that's not a real friendship,let's face it. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 05:04 PM
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Or you can end up like that other guy from the recent post, where you pay for her college education, and wedding, and then she asks for her biological father to be there, because you're not her dad. No appreciation for the fact that he actually functioned like her dad for the past decade or so. Not from her, and not from mom. The "you're not my daddy" business is only half of it, since you know mom, head full of feminist garbage, will place severe limits on your parental authority, while expecti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 04:57 PM
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That should pretty much be the deal breaker for any thoughtful guy. Don't care if the rest of the list is reasonable or not--if you get all apologetic out of the gate for being a bitch you don't deserve to be with anyone.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 04:29 PM
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Where are all the attractive, single, never slept around 22 year old women eager to marry after one month? Why is it always the dumpster fires?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 04:19 PM
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It's been a while since I've stepped into a bar for the purposes of meeting a woman. I imaging some of these guys wouldn't be put off at the idea of a relationship with a woman beyond one night. But LTRing a merely okay looking 40 year old is not the best prospect, since her looks are on borrowed time. I'm also not buying this woman's nonsense about just being fine with a casual fling. How many women say that, and then turn around and want a relationship after they've commenced a FWB sexual rela…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/19 07:22 PM
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Yup. I grew up in a rather traditional, even patriarchal family. I was academically capable, and a significant part of my choosing my career, which pays a sizable salary, was the recognition that this would enable me to be a more effective provider, and potentially make me a more eligible dating option. Yes, personal interest, and the fact that I had sufficient aptitude to "do the job" was also a component as well, as well as a desire to have the extra money around. While the risk of becoming a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/19 06:22 PM
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For real: this comment shows how completely and thoroughly the makeup and fashion industries, and the false front it gives women, are embedded in our culture. Although there are probably differences in terms of strength and urgency of sexual desires, particularly for young men compared to women, a sizable chunk of the disparity in the sexual marketplace between men and women would be leveled if women didn't wear makeup, and wear clothing that put their bodies on display. When they hit the wall, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/02/19 06:43 PM
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Male shaming language is used throughout all stages of life for women in these sorts of articles. It's a bit infuriating that the rhetoric shifts from "men being incel losers" when it's a population of women who have decent SMV (in their 20s, and going for AF), to "there aren't enough good (i.e. wealthy) men," for women in their 30s (and going for BB), to: "those immature, perverse men are practically dating children" when women are in their 40s, and have no SMV left. Even then, they can't simpl…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 09:28 PM
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To be quite honest, even if she was legitimately abused, why would a man want to get with an emotionally damaged woman long term? The odds upfront are likely significantly lower that he can have a happy relationship with her. The additional layer to this is that everyone assumes that as long as she can cast herself as a victim no man would dare think to reject a woman, based on her victimhood status, because that's so mean! It's as if refusing to get with a woman because she was a victim is inte…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 06:09 PM
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Ha ha, that was the most creatively brutal shiv I've seen in a while on this sub.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/19 04:19 PM
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Just figured I'd respond to you with a mini rant, since I was too lazy to cross post this elsewhere. Came a across a profile a few days ago on r/datingoverthirty (which I visit occasionally to cheerfully read about the difficulties of entitled 30/40 something women thinking they deserve men who are above them in SMV). One post I read was from a 40 year old woman with multiple sclerosis. Certainly not mocking her for having that, but she proceeded to talk about how it was completely unacceptable …
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 05:43 PM
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It also suggests that for whatever reason she likely cannot maintain a genuine long term relationship. How am I supposed to know for sure that a certain percentage of those men weren't guys who could have potentially been a LTR, but spotted something seriously wrong with her as a person to stay away?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 09:39 PM
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This is part of the reason why the 80:20 business is a bit more complex than just the raw ratio, since a certain percentage of men (don't know what the percentage) aren't simply going to sleep with every woman they "can" sleep with. It's entirely possible for a man to be in that top 20% in terms of attractiveness/appeal but not actualize the potential to maintain the soft harem that the 20% guys are maintaining.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 09:37 PM
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As an aside, I don't even fault women for not being virgins (I'm not either, it's unfair to hold nonreciprocal standards I feel) The thing is, though, is that there is data that shows that after a partner count of about 1 or 2, a woman's likelihood of subsequent divorce starts to climb significantly. This is a return on investment question for men, and sexual morality doesn't even have to play into the discussion, for a man to view even a "conventionally" promiscuous woman as unsuitable for a li…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 07:37 PM
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"Slut shaming in this thread is going to earn you a ban. OP didn't ask you to judge their sex life. They asked you about this conflict. Stick to the topic." Yeah, that's like one half of this conversation isn't it? WTF is the point of that sub if her approach to her sexual relationships, past and present, isn't up for scrutiny? "Hello AITA...I loved reading this sub but always thought the times when I was an asshole was pretty cut and dry...yet here I am." She thinks that being incredibly promis…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 07:28 PM
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Bonus points is that men don't sufficiently appreciate how much women hate ghosting, if they were in a relationship already with the guy. I understand the "it's immature" arguments, but if she is a terrible person (and she clearly is) she deserves to be ghosted on. Besides closure conversations, as stated above, are only going to be used to emotionally manipulate you, because on an instinctive level she knows this is part of where her influence lies. Don't give her the chance.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 06:21 PM
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JFC that's a disaster in the making. 100% agreed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 06:13 PM
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“Sometimes I cry over my youthful foolishness in letting them go.” Those tears are my energon cubes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 06:28 AM
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Ugh, sadly you are probably right. 😔
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 12:16 AM
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“Girl, I don’t even know what you’re talking about! As far as I can see you’re killin’ it! Kicking ass and taking names!” Seriously, there’s some hard core existential thinking going on here “What’s the point in me as a person.” It’s rare that you hear a childless woman state that so plainly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 01:46 PM
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Yes, this might be the strongest reason to come across as nonjudgemental when you are gaming a woman. Not because realtionships with women are "no big deal" and that you're not cool if you come across as taking relationships/female behavior seriously, but rather that you will be in a better position to judge her more accurately if you come across as nonjudgemental. She will reveal herself to you more fully if she feels like she is not being judged.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 06:05 PM
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It's so sad, and hilarious at the same time. I can see him clenching his fists and looking heavenward, saying "How lucky I am!" Man what a dumpster fire the SMP is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:32 PM
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Man this is like a redpilled fairy tale ending in 2018. They should turn this into a Disney movie or something. Can't be any worse than all the teen-star thots and SJW infused crap they're cranking out.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:21 PM
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It's ridiculous how this woman openly admits that she's down for meaningless hookups, but that they have to be "finessed" according to her predefined specifications to be legit in her book. Because meeting up in a bar, and engaging in one night stands afterwards is totally healthy for our civilization, and it's just sooo unfortunate that more men don't know how to engage in just the right amount of verbal dance moves to engage in meaningless sexual activity afterwards with her. I know she's look…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 10:00 PM
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There is a certain self-indulgent quality to the writing. Often times you get the feeling that they are trying to sell their lives as something glamorous, even while engaging in navel gazing about how dissatisfied they are.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/18 03:32 PM
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I welcome any woman expressing these ideas and appearing to be thoughtful about it, but I completely agree that on the other hand it’s annoying to see a woman saying something that’s about 65% as insightful as the best manosphere thinkers on these issues and then getting notoriety for it. Wonder how much attention she’d get if she was ugly 🤔
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/18 03:50 AM
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JFC I feel so bad for this kid and his belief that he needs to reconsent between every thrust. She even notes that it’s odd, but rather than spelling out the obvious that this is the type of social retardation wrought by feminism and the left in general, she gives us this observation: “But in the days and weeks after, I was left thinking that our culture’s current approach to consent is too narrow.” That’s just what we need. Make an inherently joyful act more joyless by introducing more stupid a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/18 10:04 PM
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There's an idea that the nature of the partner or interaction matters as well. I agree that earlier partners are probably likely to have a more potent effect on average, but you could have a woman involved in a physical relationship with a couple of low SMV men, and then guy #3 has significantly higher SMV (in her mind) than her, pushes the right emotional buttons to boot, and then the risk of alpha widowing (essentially a frustrated pair bonding instinct) goes up if that relationship doesn't la…
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/18 06:16 PM
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I'd advocate striking a balance and sometimes dressing the way he likes, and sometimes the way you like. By "sometimes dressing the way he likes" I don't mean like rarely, but with some regularity. There is a practical problem that women can deal with if they are with a guy long term, and they insist on dressing in ways that their SO doesn't like. When you are in your 20s you can often rely on youthful beauty to compensate for the fact that your guy doesn't like the way you dress. When you are 4…
/r/RedPillWomen13/12/18 04:50 PM
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I know man, why? So many dumb guys out there who will pedestalize some woman just because she posted a couple of internet selfies. This woman isn't even an instagram model or anything, which would be disgraceful enough. She's a fat, pregnant woman single mom, who looked alright 50 pounds ago. Who are these dudes?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 03:37 PM
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Ha ha "sweet, sweet welfare"--has a certain ring to it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 03:24 PM
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Jesus, this one looks like a real retard.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 05:11 AM
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It’s such bullshit that for all the rhetoric we hear from feminists in particular (but truthfully most of post-sexual revolution America) that treating sex like it’s “dirty” is a remnant of old, Puritanical, religious notions of sexuality, the one area where sexuality is consistently treated like it’s dirty and shameful is when the topic of heterosexual male sexuality is up for discussion by women, particularly men who are not deemed to be clear and obvious winners in the sexual marketplace. Oh,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/12/18 05:05 AM
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Thanks for the link. This is actually I think a major topic, but don't have time to expand much on it. On the one hand PUA (even filtered through the more modern redpill approach) does involve a certain measure of self improvement--you are researching ways to make yourself more attractive to women, and just like some men want to excel in other areas, it's tempting to say excelling in this area has value. The problem is, though, is that: no man can guarantee he will be found very attractive by al…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 09:55 PM
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I think it's a good idea for her to go through an intermediary, like a sister (or anyone who is mature, but can speak to the guy in confidence. Maybe can say "I noticed you two were chatting with each other a bit. I know OP is not in a committed relationship right now. Would you be interested in getting to know her on a one on one basis sometime?" OP should also try to find out as much as she can about his character from others. A very attractive 33 year old man is unmarried for specific reasons…
/r/RedPillWomen12/12/18 07:59 PM
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The one and only friendzone I experienced was when I was in college. 18 or 19, relatively inexperienced. Met an attractive, intelligent girl in one of my classes. Not sure how we got talking, but she seemed to like my company, I had an easy time making her laugh, and she often specifically went out of her way to ask me to sit with her and her female friends in the dining hall (even seemed to get a little irritated when I was eating with male friends, rather than her). I was flattered. I believed…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 07:31 PM
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I think private things that could have a major impact on a LTR should be disclosed as soon as it is clear that you are both seriously considering embarking on an LTR. I know there are plenty of strange arrangements out there, with people having regular sex, but not officially “exclusive” until several months in. I’m not talking about that, though—I’m thinking more along the lines “we’ve had 5 or 6 dates and are both really interested in seeing each other again.” At that point talking more in ear…
/r/RedPillWomen12/12/18 06:28 PM
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She was totally indignant that this guy would dare think that her prior sexual activity with other men, and open admission of greater attraction towards these prior men who she was intimate with should exclude her from leaching off of his resources. She wants to be a stay at home mom, but you know she’s going to have 1 or 2 kids (who she’s totally incapable of raising morally, judging by this story), and somehow thinks this justifies access to this man’s 6 figure salary for life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 06:04 PM
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Precisely, it’s not to become a parasite off of the efforts of others.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 06:01 PM
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I think the bad boy/good guy is turning into a perverse Madonna/whore dichotomy. Human beings are rarely strictly binary like this, and I think it's more of a function of the diseased personality of the girl (especially if she was alpha widowed) to view their LTRs like this. This man was supposedly her "safe" option, totally in her pocket, but looks like he may walk from her. How safe was he in the end baby?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 04:47 PM
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No kidding--it is not a privilege for me to sign up for a life of indentured servitude. There has to be an exact exchange of value, which automatically doesn't occur if the woman in question has lackluster feelings for you, but is using you for your paycheck.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 04:45 PM
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While the internet is a no mans land and troll posts probably occur, many women are surprisingly lacking in introspection about openly discussing things that are offensive in the extreme to men. In public, in person, it's all smoke and mirrors, but they are if anything shamefully candid when they think they are in the company of friends/fellow females.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 04:44 PM
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Yes, came across a comment in the illimitable men blog I was linked to that captures my feelings exactly. The observation was that PUA has become a bit feminized (or maybe always was) in the sense that women are treated like the prize, and men put pressure upon themselves to be the most entertaining dancing monkey to get the prize. Masculine game if you will is: focusing on self-actualization, and if a given woman you approach bullshits you, the proper response is “fuck her, next.”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 01:21 AM
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I personally have no moral qualms about polygamy if the laws of your country allow it. This is infinitely better, though, than what he is proposing--you getting married to another man, and cheating on your spouse on an ongoing basis behind his back. I don't know what the deal is with his primary marriage--it's not clear from your writing (is this all coming from him, or does his marriage suck for reasons you're not mentioning), but he can't leave you in limbo about this, since you'll never be ab…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/18 11:13 PM
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Good link, thanks. I have read a bunch of his stuff, and don't know how active he is still, since he is a valuable thinker.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/18 10:15 PM
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Man I'm getting cancer from all these horrific posts you guys keep dredging up. What is absolutely sad is the extreme, unreasonable lengths this guy went to try to be empathic towards his spouse. Since they don't have kids he needs to ditch her now, but how horrifying is this? On a side note, it's crap like this that I can't countenance when I hear redpilled guys talking about "enjoying the decline," but extending that to married women. I realize that these women don't always tell you, fine. But…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/18 09:54 PM
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Vet the girls you hang out with even more strictly. I think that’s crucial. Girls who do not have similar standards will encourage you to loosen yours, I promise. Especially in the current college climate, my goodness. Surround yourself with the loveliest ladies you can possibly find. I think this is excellent advice. An 18 year old girl, who is attractive in particular, has little to worry about in terms of being "left out" of the dating scene. If OP maintains her physical appearance she will l…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/18 05:46 PM
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If I remember that famous OK cupid study showed that while women rated roughly 80% of men below average, they messaged somewhat more than 20% of guys (forget how much more), suggesting that at least as far as online dating is concerned they made some slight concessions to reality. That doesn't make me feel that much better, however, with the divorce laws being what they are. You don't want a woman with you who is simply making a concession to reality, but resenting it every minute of the day.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 09:49 PM
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Or try to demonstrate some empathy for the husband who is getting ultimately a less affectionate wife even though he is putting all of himself into maintaining a relationship with her, whereas these prior guys were fly by nights.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 09:42 PM
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I'm looking for my beta bucks. I especially need that nonjudgmental part after all the shit you're gonna find out about me. It increasingly grates on me how so many women want a "nonjudgemental" man when they are the gender that is judgemental in the extreme, particularly WRT men. And it's always the chicks that are moving past their prime that want this. They never own up to the fact that during their prime they were completely insufferable, and no man was good enough for them, but now that the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 05:29 PM
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Male friends tease each other, people tease their siblings and children. I think blue pill men have been propagandized into believing that teasing is inherently malevolent when it isn’t. You have to take it on a case by case basis.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/18 12:43 AM
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Yup
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 11:40 PM
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I’m sure she will “be love” (whatever that means) to the unfortunate guy who marries her, and ultimately finds himself in a dead bedroom situation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 11:22 PM
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Ha ha, you make it sound like it’s his sweet 16 or something. I’m sure he was positively glowing at the debutante ball. Better he confront this garbage before the legal document is signed rather than after though. At least he’s been given something of a warning here. It’s terrible that this natural, instinctive, revulsion to being compared to prior lovers that all men feel has been successfully indoctrinated out of so many men by essentially male shaming tactics put forth by women and white knig…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 11:01 PM
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I agree a clean break is better for the guy, which is why its problematic to give in and play house. You need to be able to ghost if you spot something unforgivable about her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 10:55 PM
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Completely agree: the trick is to try to actualize your potential in terms of physical health, actualization of your talents, being financially secure, because these things will result in greater long term fulfillment. It also turns out that doing well in these areas tends to make you more attractive to women, but the first consideration should be maximizing your sense of personal satisfaction.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 10:28 PM
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Feel so bad that this dude feels like he has to beat himself up for his supposed “male ego” But I guess it’s all good because his fiance is empowered in her sexuality! /s. So Jason is “great,”—in other words there’s nothing wrong with the guy, but now he has to worry that baggage from prior relationships will interpose itself between himself and the woman he is intending to marry. WTF.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/18 10:24 PM
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On the one hand you seem to disparage him for “showing his cards too quickly.” On the other hand you want him to “chase” you. Which one is it—he’s allowed to show open interest in you or not? Many women play this sort of double-bind game, in many different ways with men. If he is a high SMV man, however, you are running the risk of him finding an attractive woman who doesn’t play mind games with him, which if he has any sense he should prefer to be with this woman.
/r/RedPillWomen07/12/18 01:43 AM
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Dude did you have to start crapping on her spelling and grammar? I mean i like to roast these thots as much as the next guy, but hitting them in the punctuation marks is just absolutely savage. No woman can recover from that. 😧
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/18 01:35 AM
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Women absolutely hate ghosting, which is all the more reason to do it if your girlfriend/woman you’re dating turns out to be that terrible. I really want to know if part of this woman’s thinking about her BF was “he can’t do any better.” I’ve seen such reasoning stated openly by women on RPW seeking advice on whether they should leave their boyfriend they judge as being “too beta.” Although I realize that men have to face rejection more than women, and have greater difficulty in finding sex part…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/18 01:24 AM
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The sad reality is the financial disparity also motivated more women to get married when they were younger and more attractive, and stay married, because they relied on her husband's income. Sure it was tragic if the husband was a legit douchebag, but how many decent guys would be spared a frivorce if there was this financial incentive to stay in the marriage, if riding the carousel was not condoned as a culture, and if a woman divorcing a man on a no-fault basis was abolished? I'm not saying th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 08:46 PM
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At minimum she wants to meet an equal, so she can leave open the option of staying at home, or part timing it, to take care of her 1.8 kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 08:28 PM
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The thing is that it's not like there aren't highly intelligent men out there who simply chose not to stay in school for a million years. Many of these guys are already in the workforce, and maybe aren't making a doctor's salary, but are as "smart" as your average doctor and would make fine husbands and fathers. It's the money and perceived status they are after and it's totally inexcusable. If they lack the mental maturity to successfully contend with their hypergamous nature maybe they shouldn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 08:23 PM
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Yeah male doctors tend not to stay on the market too long, and by the time they are in residency are already in LTRs heading towards marriage, or married. My casual observation is that they get married earlier than their female counterparts. Some outliers are either really inept guys, or chadly guys who know their worth and play the field.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 08:17 PM
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“If your son is starving, I’m sure if you take him to the hospital they can give him a sandwich, and run some IV fluids. You have options, girl, don’t worry!”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 01:35 PM
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Can't be that bright after all if she can't see the problem is her own set of unrealistic expectations.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 01:07 PM
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It’s like the Mitch Hedberg joke: “I don’t have a girlfriend, but I do know a woman that would be really mad at me if she heard me say that.”
/r/TheRedPill06/12/18 02:56 AM
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I presume it’s an outrcropping of the exceptionally high rates of single mother upringings, and the social consequences of this. I think we are seeing this behavior increasing in white women as rates of out of wedlock births creep up.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/18 02:27 AM
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This is an excellent article, and needs to be burned into the minds of every male who aspires to engage in a relationship with a woman. It is a fool’s errand to assume that you are not just a paycheck, and playing beta bucks to these single mothers. And yet there are no shortage of single mothers advertising themselves on dating apps making demands of qualities you need to have in order to earn the right for her to strip you of your resources and dignity. And the observation about having no pate…
/r/TheRedPill06/12/18 02:24 AM
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TwoX: where virgins go to die.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/12/18 02:09 AM
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I know some woman in my neighborhood, who my wife knows via facebook. She’s an “esthetician” or whatever. Posted a picture of herself, heavily madeup (natural colors), totally fake hair, and eyelashes. I could say it was well done, because she looked like a “9” except in real life she is no greater than a 6, and I’m being generous because she’s a bit on the obese side (was just a head shot). As far as I’m concerned makeup is only really useful for one thing in a relationship, and it is almost ne…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 11:51 PM
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Honestly this trailer looked like RP anger phase porn, except it’s clearly a show written by leftists to normalize the societal decay these women are causing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 11:43 PM
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“Angry antifeminists”=men who realize that she’s a shitty prospect, like most women, because of her sexual history, but feel like going monk isn’t an option, since they still want to pair bond. They are angry because why are these the only alternatives? “Fuckbois”=men who realize that she’s a shitty prospect, like most women, because of her sexual history, but are fine having meaningless sex with her anyway, and moving on. Either way she’s a shitty prospect, like most women, because of her sexua…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 11:37 PM
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Hilarious how OP suddenly became gay in her eyes, because he won’t give her money. Ha ha, “ok bitch, if you say so.”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 11:10 PM
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“Not my monkeys, not my circus” ha ha.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 11:02 PM
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I ultimately can’t explain why he did this because it’s not particularly reasonable behavior. Some thoughts: (1) He wanted to reinitiate contact you, but another prospect came up that he’s focusing on. (2) He wanted to reinitiate contact with you but something legitimate came up in his personal life that’s consuming his attention. Don’t see why he wouldn’t clue you in on this though. (3) He meant to text another female, and mistakenly texted you. (4) He’s a flakey person who is really crappy at …
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/18 09:42 PM
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Yup how terrible do you have to be to manipulate the tendency of others to treat you protectively. I'm sure she did this effortlessly. Spare the sob story about not trusting men bitch, I’m not your psychotherapist.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 02:20 PM
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This is a perfect description, apart from the fact that there are also the normal difficulties of childrearing that occur, even under ideal circustances: periodic temper tantrums, sick and screaming kids who don’t give a crap about the fact that you are exhausted or sleep deprived. Not demonizing kids here—if raised under ideal circumstances the positives, in terms of the emotional closeness, and hopefully the satisfaction of raising a good person, outweigh the negatives, for for these single mo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 03:17 AM
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I remember taking my kids to see a cartoon movie in the theatres, and there was a cartoon short that preceded it. The topic? A single mother, and all her humorous misadventures finding Mr. Right amongst a parade of losers. Total pandering—women who make shitty choices and bring their children into a circumstance that is about as damaging as anything else you can do to them are portrayed as the heroes, and men are bumbling idiots at best, and malevolent villains at worst. I actually educated, in …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/12/18 02:05 AM
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I definitely think it’s wishful thinking on her part that a doctor would date one of his patients. I won’t say it’s “never” happened, because crazier things have happened, but hospitals have codes of conduct, and dating one of your patients is a big no no.
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/18 01:25 AM
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Yeah: it implies that she views you as a dating retirement home, after all the fun is over. No thanks. She should view herself as building a life with you, not--"well my life's over, I can't get any better, now that I'm no longer as pretty as I was. Better to cash in and let some guy provide me with a steady paycheck, 'cause I don't want to work for myself." This woman was attractive enough to find a good guy with attractive (though not necessarily top shelf attractive) attributes, and have a be…
/r/MGTOW04/12/18 09:14 PM
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He definitely should not date you, if you are one of his patients. If I was him I wouldn't date you even if you merely were one of my patients in the past. He literally has everything to lose. I can't imagine many male doctors thinking otherwise, but especially after #metoo--merely dating coworkers, let alone patients, can set you up for frivolous accusations. I would be really surprised if he gave this any second thought.
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/18 08:43 PM
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I really don’t understand the severity of reaction I’m seeing here to this guy. I had women develop feelings for me when I was younger, in highschool and college. I never related to them with the degree of disdain the OP is doing here, even if there was little to no attraction there from my end. Unless the person is being overbearing or coercive the proper reaction—regardless of your level of attraction for the person—is compassion. Let them down easily, but firmly, but don’t judge them for taki…
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/18 11:31 PM
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At that point they usually evade responsibility and say “well it never came up until now” or “why would my past even matter?”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 08:07 PM
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She gets points from me for not saying her boys “are her world.” I’m setting the bar low today guys. After all it’s the holiday season.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/18 03:56 AM
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I think the question of whether or not this is “bad” is perhaps not the best one. I don’t think we are talking about morals here. The question is: will this approach work in finding a man with traits that will make him a desirable long term partner (husband) take an interest in me? I think it depends on his baseline level of interest in you, and how intense you are about it. If his baseline level of interest in you is high, he probably won’t mind you expressing your interest in him, and may be r…
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/18 12:27 AM
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It’s really annoying because while superficially those qualities might not seem to be that impressive, in truth it is hard to find a woman who possesses all of these qualities: (1) Faithful/devoted: in other words demonstrates that she can be committed and loyal, and doesn’t just run after what appeals to her emotions at the time. Most women who have more than a minimal n count, or who have cheated on a prior boyfriend, are automatically suspect. (2) Fun/happy: massive swathes of the female popu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 05:30 PM
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Though she does come across somewhat thoughtful, I doubt she has anything like a coherent value system. Like a set of independent standards that she measures her daily behavior against. A traditional woman, who hardly exists anymore in the West, would for instance recognize that just because she can garner lots of male attention by acting and dressing like a thot, she should exercise some restraint. That just because she can sleep around with Chads in her prime, she should exercise restraint and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 03:40 PM
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Yeah, I agree that it wouldn’t take a majority of men for the effects to be felt—a sizable minority of otherwise quality men would have a ripple effect. Thing is I don’t know if we have any way of measuring the size of this phenomenon in the US, or the West in general. There are probably men who are effectively MGTOW, without using the terminology—guys who get divorced and say “never again.” I have the impression that men younger than the Baby Boomer generation are less willing to get married mu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 02:17 PM
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Yes this is one of the most vile characteristics of the left in general, but feminists in particular. The tendency to redefine the terms of discussion with newspeak that contains all sorts of faulty assumptions about how men and women relate to each other. By getting you to buy into their terms of discussion it puts you on the defensive if you express disagreement with them. You suddenly are breaking with the silent moral majority and are officially a “misogynist.”
/r/TheRedPill22/11/18 01:27 PM
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And that “nosoycabra” commenter is a dumb bitch. Had to be said. WTF.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 04:11 AM
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“ I don't know how to act anymore when all I want is an actual boyfriend and an eventual husband. All of my previous relationships were predicated on this push-pull, chase-and-be-chased thing and all it resulted in was a bunch of emotionally unavailable men.” The PUA guys talk about ways to generate a push-pull dynamic precisely because it can be exciting and arousing to women. She’s engaging in some subtle blame-shifting here and not openly admitting that she liked that push-pull dynamic, and g…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 04:01 AM
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Yeah, this is turning into one giant societal game of capture the flag, with Chad and Tyrone ruining these girls before everybody else catches up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 02:48 AM
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Good point—even if we were living in times were marriage was a good bet for a man he should have enough of a sense of abundance to walk away from a woman that isn’t up to his standards. Abundance mentality might entail a bunch of things, but one of its features is the ability to walk away from an unsuitable woman. If a man cannot confidently state that he has this mindset he needs to work on acquiring it before he can get seriously involved with any woman
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 02:30 AM
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And marriage is arguably more serious than an occupation—ramifications of a bad marriage can send negative ripple effects across generations much more often than a job.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 01:54 AM
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Especially for marriage—you absolutely need an emotionally healthy and happy woman if it has a chance of working out well for you. You need a person who can function well as an adult—and better yet—help improve the quality of your life by being in it and not the opposite. Even if you are not considering marriage, but are still open to LTRs, these women will wreck your quality of life. It doesn’t matter if she is damaged because of something that happened to her, or her own choosing. Especially i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 01:49 AM
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Yeah, as much as it warms my heart to see pretty women with sassy attitudes talking about how their dating life sucks, I’m not convinced that this video is any more than just generating drama. She’s surely aware that she can get all done up in makeup, and tag her video with some bullshit like “”I’m lonely—why is dating so hard,” and thousands of men will tune in because they are baited by her beauty, thinking “how can a woman as pretty as her be so lonely?” I’d really like to think that the impa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 01:40 AM
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She goes on about how social media leads to a mentality of disposability and always wanting to trade up, and it’s pretty damn clear she’s really talking about herself, and other women in her situation. I really want to meet the dudes ghosting on her—because they are likely a small minority. Unless she’s a complete raging douchebag out of the gate to men she’s dating, a majority of men, even good looking, eligible men, are going to give her a fair try, if not turning into groveling simps, and los…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 01:09 AM
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Good pickup—if just living normal life bores her, she probably needs a good dose of dysfunctionality, and risk of STDs to liven things up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/11/18 12:55 AM
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No kidding “someday”—it’s good to have goals there Tara!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/18 11:30 PM
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It’s definitely a good idea to look at what happened in the American black community and track the developments that are occurring in larger (mainly) white america. I’m black (mixed race really), but noticed how simply doing the right things, and being accomplished growing up usually resulted in your being stigmatized as “square” “lame” or “acting white.” Usually this was simply if you were responsible and did well in school. While there’s definitely a notion of being a nerd or whatever in subur…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/11/18 03:57 AM
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Why does a woman think sleeping with three men in a week and catching a fucking horrible yeast infection because of it is badass? Ha ha it gets crazier the more I think about it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/18 05:58 PM
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Unlike women men can’t physically have sex if they genuinely aren’t interested (they can of course if they are somewhat turned on, at least much of the time). So when a man is being stretched to the limit it can start to create concerns about being able to perform on demand, and fear of embarrassment at not being able to get an erection on cue if he can’t. I doubt he’s trying to shame you, I suspect he’s just trying to avoid this embarrassing scenario.
/r/RedPillWomen20/11/18 03:10 AM
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Regarding vengeful attitudes. There is a massive empathy gap that exists between how society treats men’s problems, and how society treats women’s problems. Part of this is rooted in biology—women tend to expect men to be tough, and often have little patience for signs of perceived weakness in men. Conversely men (and women) have a tendency to empathize with women more often, and adopt a protective stance towards them. Women are smaller, weaker than men, have high pitched voices, and (the pretty…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/18 12:36 AM
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An idea put forth here by many is that if you just lower your standards you will find a guy who would be committed to you. Let’s say you are as unattractive as you say you are—I don’t know a 3 or 4 out of 10. Have you thought about hitting up guys that are a 3 or 4 out of 10 on dating apps? Find one with a profile that sounds like he is together and responsible, but is a looksmatch for you. Presumably he won’t just have sex with you and leave you. Of course check for legit compatibility in other…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 11:49 PM
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“Women can tend to be resistant to a man's expressed needs, I think, because they instinctively balk at or resent the notion of a man (who is supposed to 'lead' them) having needs that he can't meet himself. They confuse it for 'neediness,' which it may or may not be.” I think many men are biologically hardwired to be more stoic than women. Over the past 20 years I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have cried for some personal pain. I’ve cried much more contemplating the suffe…
/r/RedPillWomen19/11/18 02:32 PM
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It’s stories like this that convince me that we should criminialize adultery. I remember reading some news posting on goodnewsnetwork or something (I was trying to replace some of my news reading with a news site dedicated to “positive” news, since a lot of news focuses on all the terrible things people are doing, and often puts me in a pissed of frame of mind for no reason). While the site does an okay job, periodically they’ll throw in some supposedly good news that really is just advancing a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 01:53 PM
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Israel is the land of the Bible and the ancient homeland of the Jewish people. Of course they have precedence to be there. You can see ancient ruins, including that of their Holy Temple there. Though the Bible says the land was initially occupied by the Canaanite nations, that same book says God gave the land to the nation of Israel and this fact is found throughout the Old and New Testament. I know people shit on the Bible as being ahistorical, but it’s ridiculous to think the book is a complet…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 11:20 AM
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The bullshit about fragile male egos is a somewhat older feminist male shaming tactic.
/r/MGTOW19/11/18 05:06 AM
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My comment about sympathy for women was in response to YOUR comment “Stop having pity for some woman you don’t even know about” Get some reading comprehension skills—I’m not crystallizing shit for you, if you are not going to use your brain and attend to the conversation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 05:05 AM
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That picture looks like it was shot in 1973 or something. I’m also kind of getting a Bipolar vibe here, with the hint of grandiosity, but just a hunch.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 04:16 AM
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That’s just your fragile male ego talking sir!
/r/MGTOW19/11/18 02:52 AM
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“Of course you have to be tall. If it was just taller than her she would say taller than 5'9". She wants to justify wanting a tall man, not just a taller man, which is why she mentions the fact that she is taller than average in the first place. She actually gives herself away a little bit with the grinning emoji.” Good pickup. You know for damn sure she’s not looking for a 5’10” guy. But don’t you dare be all about the looks Mister! After all you have to ignore the fact that I’m 41.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/18 01:15 AM
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I agree, unfotunately. I was fortunate enough to marry a (among other positive qualities) virgin. She is enthusiastic, and yes is turned on by my being a bit rough. I’m fine with that, and don’t see why she should be ashamed of this, if it’s between us, and she is trustworthy and reliable generally. While I don’t think it’s productive to hang a woman’s prior sexual experiences over her head if you have already decided to maintain an LTR with her, I think it is totally appropriate for men to go s…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/18 11:57 PM
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“Just be honest with me bro. Do you know ANY women who put up with loneliness whether they’re attractive or not? They either have friends, family or SOMETHING. Men are much more likely to be lonely due to pride but women will drop whatever values they think they have to assimilate to a group. I honestly don’t know any women who are truly lonely like that and I don’t actually think it’s very likely.” I definitely think there are women who reach a point in their lives where they aren’t having sex …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 04:29 AM
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Even though women can be masters at covering up their personal vices, especially when engaging with a man they want an LTR out of, it’s actually pretty amazing how many women lay out for all to see features of their personality that in a perfect world would result in no man ever approaching them. This woman sounds like a total asshole. She’s like example #456,543,546 of a woman of little value coming out of the gate making all sorts of demands and insulting men she hasn’t even met yet. What are …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 03:51 AM
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Ethically there should be no problem with self defense against a female attacker. But there is so much white knighting involved in this situation that the issue becomes muddied. I’ve seen men argue when a case of a man defending himself against an attacking woman resulted in the woman being dropped like a sack of potatoes that he used “excessive force,” or some shit. I really don’t regard it as reasonable for a person defending themselves against an assailant to have to adopt restraint, except (…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 03:42 AM
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I’m really thinking the biggest threat to Western civilization is a voting population of women, who were in the 5-6/7 range in their prime, getting pumped and dumped by men who were better looking then them, and all the psychological ramifications that have ensued.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 03:33 AM
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Gaza was given to Palestinians by Jews in the mid 2000s, and they turned it into an outpost to launch rockets at them. The proper response to this insane lack of gratitude should have been to unleash on Gaza and reduce it to ash, but the Israelis are more compassionate than I am. I don’t understand why it’s more acceptible for crazy, maurauding middle easterners to violently attack Israelis than it is for them to do the same with Americans and Europeans, unless you also believe that Muslims shou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 01:45 AM
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Leftist Jews, like Soros, are frequently anti-Israel. While definitely not true 100%, Jews who support Israel tend to be more politically conservative, are more likely to be religious, and promote more traditional values.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 01:41 AM
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The current reality of women thotting it up, and becoming single mothers, could be significantly reversed if older women who screwed up admitted that, and gave advice to younger women on why they should not repeat their mistakes, and what characteristics in men they should ultimately look for for stable, married relaitonships. But they almost never do that.. They blame shift away, or polish the turd of their lives to make it sound like that was exactly what they wanted all along and they’re livi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 01:30 AM
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It’s actually pretty distressing, because as a man you literally have to have examples shown to you, and hammered into your brain, if not experience outright betrayals to be keyed into this fact. Women effortlessly paint a rosy picture of themselves, by blame shifting, speaking euphemistically about prior actions, using the passive voice, committing lies of ommission. Once men realize this, it makes it very difficult to believe women who come to you, admitting a less than ideal past, but claimin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 12:46 AM
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No kidding—I was thinking (as a thought experiment): “well maybe she’s like 26, and wanted to marry the guy, but he just wants to cohabit because he knows marriage is a risk, so they were kind of married, but then he bailed.” But no: she’s a complete trainwreck who’s past her prime. Her n count is probably through the roof, and the dirty little secret is that it’s very plausible if not likely that she was an intolerable POS to the guy that left her. A man would have to be a sociopath to literall…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/18 12:42 AM
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Not saying it's easy, but of course there is an entire civilization of women scattered around you between the ages of 20 and 40. While most of them have had too much experience with other men to be optimal for marriage, you can still have decent odds searching in the 20-32 range if you at least are looking for some sort of satisfying relationship of nebulous duration. The older they get, though, the more they want you to be "serious" while simultaneously forgiving them for any baggage they have,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/18 03:33 PM
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Just a minor point, but she describes the process of sleeping with 3 men in a week as being “badass.” Is anybody else like almost never impressed when a woman describes some personal behavior, or behavior of another woman, as “badass?” Almost always it’s for something not that impressive when viewed from the male perspective. Like a woman benchpressing 170 pounds (whereas for a guy that’s just starting to lift you out of weakling territory) or in her case sleeping with some thirsty guys. Ugly wo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/18 05:20 AM
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Yeah, I can see how cutting out the incentive of attracting women can be demotivating for some men, but being physically fit, financially solvent, and fulfilled by whatever pursuits or passions you hopefully have not only makes you more attractive, but more importantly, makes you more fulfilled as a man. If a man goes MGTOW I’d definitely would rather see him try to achieve some self actualization, rather than just smoking up, and earning just enough to live on. I know some men might be satisfie…
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 04:24 AM
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That’s a random age I pulled out of my butt. I think the reality is somewhat worse for other women. A woman who lives across the street from me is divorced now for many years. When I first met her in her early 40s, I thought she was quite pretty for a post-wall woman—she was probably beautiful into her mid 30s or so. Fit, ran a lot. Not sure what was behind the divorce but she has a house, and doesn’t seem to work that much, one kid, and way too many dogs, probably as a subtitute for a family. D…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/18 04:16 AM
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Well RPW is certainly more conducive to stable family formation than the approach adopted by many redpill men, but the redpill from the male perspective is the response to the fact that large segments of, or even perhaps the majority, of women in Western society are unmarriagable. It’s a reaction to, and not the originator of, the decline. But since many, though not all, of these men adopt the mantra of “enjoying the decline,” they end up being part of the problem, even while reducing the likeli…
/r/RedPillWomen16/11/18 04:00 AM
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I definitely think there’s some variability in men with this issue. Speaking purely sexually, I don’t think I would ever sleep with a woman I found ugly, or even a clearly obese woman. While the percentage of obese women out there that I find attractive is not 0%, it’s probably under 10%, maybe even 5%, and by “attractive” I mean I could maybe sleep with them a couple of times before feeling gross. (Clinically overweight, but not obese, women are a different story—the percentage I find attractiv…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/18 12:46 AM
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I’m not convinced men are all marrying women they are hell yes about—maybe this is increasingly the case, as men are getting more comfortable not getting married at all, and so the one’s that take the plunge really mean it, but I suspect all those 6 year relationships that end in a proposal were not “hell yes” by that stage. For me a “hell yes” marriage is basically marrying your oneitis, but I suspect men are less successful than women at getting into any sort of sexual relationship with their …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/11/18 12:10 AM
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No kidding, like I’m not even finishing reading the list dealbreaker.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 11:52 PM
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She possibly will, but the question is how old will she be. If she's lonely and sexless at 60 that’s not quite karma in my book. In order to sustain a lifelong marriage though she'd have to marry an absolute doormat and not divorce him. Possible but not guaranteed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 11:43 PM
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I'm fortunate to be financially successful. Years ago I had put myself on a dating site, and got a profile from a beautiful woman, with a description that was pretty damn vague about herself, but included some bit about "no matter what we've done in our lives, God always forgives" or some business like that. She knew what I did for a living, but I was not yet cynical about AF/BBs. Because I was thirsty, and had pretty much been monk mode for a while trying to build up my career, I arranged a dat…
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 09:27 PM
3

It's pretty natural for men, growing up as boys at least, to engage in rough and tumble play. If you ever have children, particularly boys, there will almost certainly be an instinctive meeting of the minds here. The truth is that he is almost certainly physically tougher and stronger than you, and is often times not fully aware of that fact. Just tell him that, and that in spite of the fact that you legitimately enjoy playing around with him, he probably doesn't recognize his own strength, so p…
/r/RedPillWomen15/11/18 06:42 PM
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As much as I can gather female pornstars regard themselves as much, much higher, than their legions of thirsty fans. The career starlets I'm sure have their way of cultivating their fan base, but watch the claws come out real fast if you ever try to legitimately come onto them. In short they (and female celebrities) are our modern goddesses, as much as the thought makes me want to vomit. Regular pretty women, particularly in metropolitan areas, develop a bitch shield because of all the male atte…
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 06:11 PM
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Also reading the original post: this is apparently a beautiful woman who reportedly approached him. How often does that occur in regular life, men? While he gives no indication of being unattractive, he makes it clear that she's the most attractive woman he's ever been with. This harlot clearly targeted him. She saw him, and saw dollar signs. I'm not saying she was necessarily repulsed by him, or didn't develop a fondness for him, but she was clearly looking for a beta bucks, soft landing, after…
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 06:02 PM
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What I'm particularly satisfied by is the fact that her prior behavior resulted in her losing out on being married to a guy that will probably earn between 500K and a million a year. Whether or not she had romantic feelings for him that's a huge loss on her part, and it's directly tied to her prior sexual behavior. Rare to see such a clear cause and effect scenario play out to a former thot's detriment. She can't go to daddy government to begin to recover this loss. Absolutely loving it.
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 05:51 PM
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You need to introspect more, and find personal goals that are if not inspiring, at least hold personal interest and meaning for you. I find it hard to believe that most people don't have at least something that garners their interest. Developing personal competence, and a sense of self-mastery is important, but that automatically means accepting that life consists of near daily, if not daily, striving in one aspect or another. Aside from goals that are personally meaningful, you will at the very…
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 05:39 PM
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That's the thing--100% of men don't have to be MGTOW for women to feel the effects. But once a noticeable number of either provider betas or chads refuse to ever settle down they will feel it. Many women still want to retreat into the comfortable mythology that men who abandon relationships with women are all rock-bottom, undesirable types, but we know that's not true. Take a good man and screw him over enough times, he may turn away from relationships, that's just the way it is. And the culture…
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 05:03 PM
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They also never complain when flaunting their sexuality/looks earns them cash and prizes. What we need is more men suppressing their urge to be deferential to attractive women not less.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 05:04 AM
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Somehow missed the part that this guy’s an orthopedic surgeon—of course his filthy piece of shit ex is “broken up” about him not wanting to be with her anymore. She just missed a huge, potentially lifelong, payday all because her “little” white lie saw the light of day. Life must be so hard for these thots.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 03:40 AM
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He’s the judgemental asshole, and yet—true to male nature—he is still supplicating enough to send her on an all expenses fancy weekend outing with her girlfriends, and pay up six months of living expenses. Lots of guys would do this. And he’s the asshole. Remember men, in our modern society men are the judgemental entitled ones. Repeat that over and over again and ignore all evidence to the contrary. /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/18 11:39 PM
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That's the thing with this woman--she doesn't fully realize that she's coasting by on makeup and young male hormones, and that when she chunks up a bit more, gravity sets in, or starts dealing with men in their upper 20s and beyond she'll realize that they are no longer buying what she's selling. But she'll be so used to her "dance for me monkey" mentality that she'll still expect men to do all the heavy lifting in terms of maintaining rapport and generating attraction. Of course she'll probably…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/18 05:59 PM
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We're usually called on to be the humorous, charming ones. Her platonic company alone usually amounts to jack sh-t. Amazing how they fail to acknowledge this while expecting us to lead and assume responsibility for their having a good time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/18 01:34 AM
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I feel worst for (1) men who have had their lives ruined by the family courts/ties severed with children, and (2) children who are raised by irresponsible mothers.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/11/18 11:06 PM
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Very sad. What a disaster this garbage is for stable family formation. But don't want to be like those "repressed" religious people and advocate for waiting till marriage, because somehow a society filled with women like these leads to the greatest degree of happiness amongst its members /s.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/11/18 06:30 PM
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It's always a negative for a woman (and less so, but yes a man) to have slept around before marriage. I don't know how many "high value RP" men there are, as very high value men in general are a minority, and redpilled men are a smaller minority. A decent chunk of such high value men are insufficiently clued into the damage marrying a woman who slept with other people can bring to a marriage. But if they are at least aware of divorce laws they may simply opt for prenups, or remain perpetual bach…
/r/RedPillWomen13/11/18 06:18 PM
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The thing is—let’s suppose she was a virgin when she married him. Though she would probably be happier with him, even if her husband was disappointed with their B- grade sex life, he could console himself that no man ever got better from her. He doesn’t have that to fall back on though here, so he’s justified in feeling robbed. She consented to marriage with him—if her level of attraction wasn’t satisfactory to her she should have backed out before it ever became a binding legal arrangement.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 03:18 PM
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The extra twist of the knife is how she dares call her husband the entitled one. Where’s that asteroid from space? It needs to visit her house like yesterday.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 03:12 PM
5

It was Chris in Ghostbusters. Thanks for making me feel gay that I can actually point out that distinction ha ha.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 12:55 PM
7

If they don’t have kids that may curb some of the damage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 12:45 PM
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True—you could write the OP off as a random psychopath, as disturbing as her post is, but when you see the peanut gallery relating sympathetically towards her you realize that this is a problem that can’t be ignored so easily.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 12:44 PM
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In proverbs when the adulterous woman entices the male protagonist she says “stolen waters are sweeter.” The Bible isn’t condoning adultery, obviously, but it is effectively telling people that these temptations are a part of life for many people, and they are to be denied. They are not a “need” that has to be fulfilled. It is never a reasonable assumption that you should have every last desire fulfilled. Even if this woman got all the strange that she wanted, she will grow older, uglier, and no…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 12:34 PM
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I suspect the more pathological the woman the more you find yourself in these double bind, no win scenarios. On the one hand she claims her “needs” aren’t being met unless her husband literally rapes her. On the other hand raping a woman is a crime, and if she decides after the fact that she didn’t like the experience he goes to jail. So he has to choose: be a civilized human being, and get cheated on, or rape her, and “maybe” he’ll scratch that sexual itch of hers, or maybe he’ll go to jail. No…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 12:27 PM
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But the redpill subreddit is quarantined. Say what you want about it, but it at least gives men advice that can help them avoid marrying creatures like this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 12:21 PM
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The sad thing is that the “easy” part of the likely complex series of steps needed to solve the problem would be to fix the divorce laws, and massively disincentivize the possibility of a woman frivorcing a man, and taking his assets. The hard part is fixing the culture, including the already broken families in existence, that basically give woman carte blanche to behave promiscuously in their prime, and ruin themselves for marriage. If the easy part is fixing the divorce laws, and I don’t see t…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 04:13 PM
1

That manjaw didn’t come naturally my friends.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 03:21 AM
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Being young and having a normal BMI is not adequate basis to feel like you are entitled to a doctor, let alone a surgeon, who at least in the US can earn upwards of half a million, sometimes even crest 1 million per year. Get that thought out of your head right now. Yes, she aspires to be a stay at home mom, but that does not suffice to say she has decent character—can I also sign up to have a millionaire fund my lifestile in exchange of like 15 years of babysitting, until the kids are in school…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 03:19 AM
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“i am quite argumentative and stubborn and jealous (controlling).” It’s of course possible that this guy your talking about is a douchebag, but no self respecting man would want to be with a woman long term that possesses the character problems you ascribed to yourself. There’s a difference between personality and character faults—you work on the latter if you want to successfully live long term with a man. While it’s possible this guy wouldn’t have wanted to be with you long term for reasons ot…
/r/RedPillWomen04/11/18 01:19 PM
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The thing is—if I was genuinely interested a girl, I still wouldn’t want to be just friends. She gets my friendship, if she’ll also be my lover, but otherwise nothing. What’s so hard for them to comprehend about this?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 01:42 AM
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So much verbage in this study to avoid saying that “the current sexual marketplace has turned modern women into entitled assholes and men no longer find value in trying to impress them.”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 03:39 AM
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It’s about as “right” as an unattractive woman expecting to land an attracive man.
/r/RedPillWomen25/10/18 11:15 AM
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“Men who want relationships are men who do not have options.” I think this is somewhat of a distortion of the reality of the situation. Women who have been alpha widowed (especially by a man with higher SMV than them) might feel this way, as they simultaneously obsess on the man who pumped and dumped them, while maligning men closer to their level. Even attractive men will feel a desire to pair bond. There’s no rule that being attractive as a man suddenly renders you incapable of developing roma…
/r/RedPillWomen25/10/18 11:12 AM
5

Aaaaaand she’s not even pretty.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 10:53 AM
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That’s what men all want—to be “proud” that their wives offer them lackluster sex in the bedroom, and have zero interest in pleasing them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:32 AM
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Porn stars manage to pretend they are having the most enthusiastic sex of their lives all the time. It’s possible for a woman to do this. If a cam slut can try out new things for randos on the internet, why can’t a woman go out of her way to please her husband? That doesn’t mean submitting to every request, but the notion that a woman should strive to please her partner (not just vice versa) seems lost on a substantial percentage of women. Like it’s tantamount to rape or something. I sincerely h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:27 AM
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Imagine had he never worked up the nerve to ask her to make a sex tape.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:16 AM
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This male ego bullshit needs to die. We all have egos, but it is far more common for women to live their lives telling pretty little lies to make themselves feel better—about their weight, age, heavy usage of makeup, bullshit social media pictures that typically look much better than they look in real life, snapchat filters up the azz, euphemistic language (avoiding the use of fat for bullshit like “thick”). What is that if not the manifestation of female ego, and the inability to deal with real…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:15 AM
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No kidding—and if this woman can give the “old college try” with a prior lover, she can do it with her husband. No excuses. This is the man who pledged his life to you, not some fly by night douchebag. These pieces of trash think it’s misogynistic for men to expect a woman to go out of her way to please the most important man in her life! Like providing for the same woman your entire life, who will almost certainly hit the wall too soon, and get fat into her 30s (if not before) is somehow a good…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:11 AM
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Honestly—hard to not have a dim view of women after seeing all those upvotes. Like WTF. Just show me one good woman standing up to the crowd. Show me its possible ladies, really.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:03 AM
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Love how all that wild sex with a prior lover is explained away as insecurity. She just wanted to be loved after all. That sort of insecurity is deserving of empathy. After all she wasn’t acting like a whore or anything by giving her most enthusiastic sexual self to a man who hadn’t pledged to spend his life with her, right? But a man feeling “insecure” that the woman he pledged his life to ended up pair bonding more intensely with a prior man, from an ultimately meaningless relationship? Skewer…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:01 AM
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Good point. Unfortunately the sexual experiences leave an imprint on the personality, regardless of the context in which they occurred.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 02:05 AM
2

In a weird way being aware of the going rate for a prostitute would help in sizing up these women in a monetary way. Arguably you should pay more for a relationship if the woman is adept at making you feel loved, adds value to your life over and above providing (committed and disease free) sex. These women don’t offer that—they offer often times less than the prostitute since sex is at best a maybe, and the relationship aspects are compromised by a lousy, entitled personality.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 01:59 AM
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This shows how difficult it is for many men to not confuse authentic ethics/morals with feelings for a girl. Being ethical also means behaving with a modicum of self-respect, and not continuously submitting to treatment you would never wish on another. Being “nice” is not the end all be all of being a good person. But with women it’s especially difficult, because the male sex drive often predisposes a man to behaving generously towards a given object of his attraction, often to the point of pede…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 01:48 AM
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I always wondered if the whole "dad-bod" business that was being circulated by millenial websites a few years ago wasn't a subtle feminist way of digging at men who are not quite at their peak physically, in order to drag them down to the level of women who hit the wall. There's a difference between a man having a paunch, and much of what we see with women which is to go full on dough boy, because they lacked muscle mass to begin with. I'm not claiming it's wise to pack on weight as a man, for h…
/r/MGTOW23/10/18 08:16 PM
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Ahhh yes ... the circle of life continues
/r/MGTOW23/10/18 04:40 PM
3

Can we just say that people don't really have excuses if they are still acting like retards after the age of, oh, 20 or so? I'd go lower, but I'm factoring in a certain amount of immaturity baked into the culture. Yeah, I realize that we all live and learn, and plenty of men at 20 have issues to fix in their lives, but the women in the show will be the same type of women that will claim you're not really an "adult" until you're like 25 or so. By buying into that narrative we as men put blinders …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/10/18 04:36 PM
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But presumably lesbians are attracted to women too and realize most women look terrible with the butch cut. What gives? They simply end up looking like weak, androgynous dudes.
/r/MGTOW23/10/18 12:18 AM
1

She thought black men were beneath her for 47 years, but now she’s ready to give her well past the wall self over to them. How flattering for black men everywhere.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/18 04:33 PM
2

This one sounds like a keeper.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/18 04:31 PM
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Don't go all mustangwanted on us bro
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:38 PM
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That's the thing--I'm not even jealous of young women's stronger hand in the SMP, because I see how even ugly women can have men coming on them on OLD like dogs in heat. I have never been as unattractive as this woman, yet I've never been in a position where a multitude of women were making clear and open advances towards me. This is more about male sexuality than anything.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:37 PM
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100% but I suspect a decent chunk of these guys just want short term hookups, and therefore cast a wide net, including with fugly women on these websites. They don't necessarily have an interest in LTRing these women (though some will). Doesn't make it any better, but the problem is the male tendency to have zero standards when promiscuous sex is on the agenda.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 01:33 PM
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This was such idiotic horsehit, from a social scientist no less. Was there some massive land war in the US I missed that has now deprived society of 30 and 40 something year old men? All of this rationalization to avoid the ego shattering conclusion that these women are not desirable for long term relationships, and their stock is plummeting fast for short term relationships.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/10/18 11:07 PM
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I’m increasingly disgusted by the seemingly effortless ability of women to euphamise any aspect of reality that doesn’t flatter their egos. When it comes to the SMP the end result is to basically sell sub-par goods to men, and then try to shame them when men aren’t interested.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/10/18 11:00 PM
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The default setting of many women is to view men (and truthfully much of life) with a jaundiced, judgemental eye. With men the tendency is to constantly ask “is he worthy (of my affections)?” While I think part of this is natural, toxic femininity if you will dials this shit up to 10, such that no man can emerge unscathed in the eyes of a critical female, except men that are so far above this woman in value that she would have to be psychotic to think she had a shot at a LTR with them. Men have …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/10/18 05:20 AM
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Emotionally they are also more inclined towards negativity, as any non-depressed male who has been in a relationship knows. Whenever I hear a guy talking about how a particular girl’s friendship is so valuable I assume he’s either an orbiter, or suffering from a lack of quality guy friends.
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 12:08 AM
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It really messes many women up more than men can understand if a guy totally withdraws from them in the midst of an established relationship.
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 12:05 AM
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In her 30s, and after some weight gain, she'll be one of those boxy looking Eastern European women. Just put a babushka on her already.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/10/18 04:54 PM
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Good luck to you if you follow this template for a long term relationship as you continue to grow and change. I do not think most men are looking for a woman to be a doormat, which is what you seem to be insinuating here. The person you responded to advocated against "lots of debate over petty things," while at the same time advocating a woman being straightforward in her opinions. I don't see how this equates to a woman being a doormat.
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/18 04:50 PM
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Very sad, but very true.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/10/18 12:57 AM
2

It’d be hard to do that for a 50 year old woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 02:51 AM
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The pictures of the women who write these articles should always be included. The internet allows women to live in fairytale make believe land, and not just because of facebook/instragram validation, and tinder. Women who write hit pieces like this on men project this vibe as if they must be the most sought after, hottest ticket in town. Then you look at their pictures, and you realize their last best chance at a happy marriage was from some random dude who hit on them when they were like 22, an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 02:51 AM
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It’s cute when homely women write articles about how men aren’t up to their standards.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 02:45 AM
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This is yet one more reason to not live with a woman. On the one hand they are not married, so there are fewer legal entanglements, but on the other hand a man needs to reserve the right to walk away immediately, no arguments, no back and forth, "we're just done." I realize that for some men a cohabitation arrangement in a state that doesn't recognize common-law marriage may seem like an attractive work around to the messed up family courts, but you need an exit strategy.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 05:38 PM
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"Don't you dare proposition me for sex! I reserve the right to post pictures of my breasts in an attempt to manipulate you sexually for the ultimate purpose of extracting resources from you, but the exploitation only goes in one direction–get it?!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 05:30 PM
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I give her points for showing us how she really looks. I’m honestly not trying to be mean, but does anyone here think that sex with this woman would be preferable to masturbation? Because she’s doing the whole “if you’re only looking for sex, keep moving” business, suggesting she’s getting guys who are hitting her up for hookups. I can’t empathize with men that would try to hookup with a woman who looks like this. For me there’s a certain level of unattractiveness that starts to unfavorably comp…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 01:20 AM
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Apart from social media, I wonder if this isn’t just an effect of being raised by single mothers, and being in a matriarchy. Women traffick in pretty lies, and not always maliciously: mothers will often lie straight up to their kids to preserve their self esteem, rather than tactfully introducing them to the truth, but trying to help them successfully align themselves with it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 01:13 AM
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yup
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 08:37 PM
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Notice how if it feels good for her, there will be no regrets. Morality, principles, honor, the importance of not betraying another means nothing: if it feels good then that’s self validating enough for her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 08:35 PM
2

The expectation that we be attracted to them offends me to the core.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 07:14 PM
2

Build financial independence my friend, and live life on your terms.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 05:12 PM
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And the thing is--she describes her boyfriend as dependable and attractive. He's apparently not some 90 pound weakling. She just can't forgive him for not being able to provide a continuous IV infusion of dopamine to keep his little princess happy at all times. I truly hope she tries to monkey branch, get's dumped by the BF and her new Chad, and ends up alone.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 04:53 PM
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Yes, it's only a matter of time. If she stays on Tinder, it will feel less and less like a transgression on her relationship with her boyfriend, and eventually she will come across a man that flips her attraction switches enough for her to "try and see" him in real life, with of course--no stated goal of sex. If it happens, and she gets hooked, she will try to monkey branch. If she is alpha widowed she will become even more terrible to her boyfriend. Either way he loses.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 04:51 PM
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Exactly, it's BS to think it all comes down to male frame, even if that helps. Society itself needs to be oriented in a way that men are not paddling upstream--if half her friends are flakey whores, she's ridden the carousel herself, and she's constantly tuning into leftist forms of media you are swimming against the cultural current in trying to maintain a relationship, let alone raise children, with this woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 04:49 PM
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Don't worry--once those negative formative experiences are over, she'll be subject to social justice indoctrination, and sex-positive feminism, at the college level, both of which are known to produce mental well-being in females.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 04:40 PM
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Ahhh yes: so once she feels confident she can lock down resources he'd better damn well be faithful to me! Because it's about true love after all.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 04:31 PM
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Yeah the redpill truth on this post is that she is either unattractive, or has some seriously obnoxious aspects to her personality. Few women, especially in their 30s and beyond, can look genuinely attractive and be overweight, let alone obese. Some men might also be turned off if she is not sleeping with them early--they know she did it in the past to other guys, and don't want to jump through hoops for what is likely to be a mediocre LTR prospect anyway.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 04:27 PM
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Women who have slept around (which is most women) are a huge red flag for anything serious, but I am not convinced that men—especially young and naieve men—really think this way. Some, more thoughtful men, certainly do, but I suspect many if not most men are a bit clueless in this area until they’ve had a few unsuccessful relationships. So much of dating is not done with intention to marry—even LTRs are often nebulous arrangements, and men therefore do not think with their heads when getting int…
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/18 12:48 AM
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No matter how attractive a woman is, the drama described above is something that a self respecting man would not put up with (though many do in practice). I do have to wonder about the last minute cancellations however—unless this guy’s a doctor, with emergency responsibilities, I question whether the interest was that strong to begin with. I think last minute cancellations are BS unless there are some serious extenuating circumstances.
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/18 12:33 AM
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This is a short, but very good read. Haven't read most of the rest of the website to comment. It also links to an old interview with a former KGB agent that talks about techniques of subverting cultures. Very, very prescient given our current culture, and uncanny that the interview was now over a generation ago. Not saying it's coming from Russia, but it gives insight into what cultural Marxists, and armies of successfully indoctrinated useful idiots are doing to society. http://thedeclination.c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/18 09:06 PM
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Yet they will expect men to turn into absolute doormats and simps when they are in a pinch and require our uncritical support, protection and provisioning.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/18 08:20 PM
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This one's unique, guys. She loves to laugh. I mean, WTF, is there anyone that doesn't like to laugh? This is about as meaningful a description as "I enjoy feeling happy."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/18 08:18 PM
6

Seriously--did I miss something in this post where she's Amish and has like 6 kids running every which way?
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 01:02 PM
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Let alone comparing spending like 30-60 min/day cleaning to becoming a 1%er. It's all a sliding scale--a stay at home mother of 2, married to a man earning 50K a year, feels just as entitled to his money as a stay at home mother of 2, married to a man earning 2 million a year. But the value of what they are bringing to the table isn't increasing.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 01:01 PM
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The thing is when I was younger I didn't fully understand that the wall existed. I didn't imagine that these largely invisible >35 yr old women were that way due to the effects of age (and partly lifestyle). I simply thought that there were attractive women, and unattractive women, realizing that for many women the difference is like 10 years. I walk around my job and I can't believe it still: women in their 20s with normal BMIs--often (but not always) attractive. Women in their 30s, even with n…
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 12:55 PM
5

Reading those comments kind of makes me hate women humanity.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/18 01:06 AM
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I don’t think most men can tell if a woman is playing hard to get vs. just blowing them off. In this promiscuous society of ours, I would just assume she’s your typical hypergamous thot, drunk on male attention via dating apps, and therefore is not taking my interest in her seriously. I’d bail at even the slightest indication that she’s not interested, but that wouldn’t mean her not responding to my texts instantly—it would mean her not responding at all. I always treated the early stages of a r…
/r/RedPillWomen08/10/18 03:43 AM
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Good point—it’s probably because on some level they know their RMV value is tied to their partner count, and so they are insecure. A woman’s partner count should be the floor on which evaluating the rest of her person should be based. The reality is that a low (ideally no) partner count woman still has to demonstrate that she has character, personal compatability, and you still have to be attracted to her. It’s just that so few women even satisfy the first criteria, that as men we’ve developed t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/18 11:49 PM
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Stupid people often don’t mature with age, but actually degenerate further. In order to mature with age you have to have the willingness to introspect, find yourself wanting in certain respects, and make honest attempts to improve. How likely is it that she conducts herself this way? It’s more likely that she gets more set in her ways. Some women claim to be mature, because they have been hurt by men in the past. But being burnt out and running out of options, is not maturing, because at the end…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/18 11:33 PM
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Can’t step in the minds of these people obviously, but I think it’s possible for a male to reach a high enough level of SMV that a certain amount of pandering to women doesn’t hurt them. If you are rich, handsome, and famous, and have already slept with lots of women, currying favor with women via this public virtue signalling perpetuates your 15 minutes of fame, which works to maintain your SMV. If you are a handsome guy on a college campus it’s riskier to do this. My guess is that some of thos…
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 05:24 PM
1

Yeah it's likely those celebrity Chads are just courting their base of fans. Like when the ballad singers say shit like “this one’s for all you ladies”
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 04:07 PM
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Ahhh yes (stroking chin) ... European prince charming game ...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/18 03:53 PM
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I’m not sure whether I’m getting entitlement from her post, or just a matter of fact description of the degree of abundance these hoes have in terms of ease of sexual access. She openly admits that she doesn’t actively try to initiate conversation or even reply to most men on Tinder—she doesn’t have to.. It’s all easy-peasy lemon squeezy, because she’s like a kid in a candy store and can get sex on her terms. So it’s now a dilemna for her when she finally meets a man she has interest in, but she…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/18 03:25 PM
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I don’t get why he’s courting a 31 year old, as a 29 year old man. The number of dicks this woman has had has totally ruined her, and it’s not even worth the risk of engaging with her on anything more than the most superficial level. Hell, it’s probably a sucker’s bet even if she was 24, but at least there’s a modest chance she hasn’t been ruined. At 31 pretty much the only women that haven’t been around the block too many times are a subsection of ugly women (and even ugly women can frequently …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/18 03:18 PM
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My prediction is that at most RvW will be demoted to a “states rights” issue, with some states being more conservative than others in how they proceed. I suspect a wholesale ban on abortion (or even reducing to a “life of mother only” standard, which I would find more fair) would be met with severe civil unrest. This is part of why this whole thing was a farce to me—this whole smear campaign against the guy so women could preserve their right to kill a fetus for any and all reasons, when it’s pr…
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 12:23 PM
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Regarding RvW—I am aware that men may find themselves compelled by the State to pay for unplanned pregnancies (if promiscuity is held as a constant, and men don’t get better at using contraception). This is just an area where I’m likely to disagree with some others who come to this sub. I don’t hold MGTOW concerns above those of the unborn. It comes down to values, and is a fruitless internet debate—if I hold my personal agenda above all other considerations, overturning RvW is a bad thing as a …
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 03:35 AM
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I agree that anger generally renders one irrational, but I think this is different from saying anger is never appropriate. In the face of extreme evil, and in calculated doses, it’s appropriate in my view. Truth needs to articulated passionately at times when an injustice is being brokered against one’s person. I would need a track record of Kavanaugh losing his cool from the bench before I took seriously any of these concerns. Holding this or any SCOTUS judge to the standard of never getting an…
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 03:27 AM
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Yeah because being falsely accused of being a sex offender on the national stage is totally something a reasonable person should shrug off, without any display of emotion. I want my SCOTUS judges to be moral enough to feel anger, when prompted by righteous indignation. You don’t respond with passivity in the face of evil: you unleash on it. The real story here is the abject wickedness of the Left, and the numerous women who believe men should be thrown under the bus for unsubstantiated accusatio…
/r/MGTOW07/10/18 01:19 AM
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The tendency for women to snap photos to post on social media, often without permission from the men in their lives, is an additional reason why men should be strict on not getting into situations that compromise their dignity. Especially if you are some woman’s ex. Have some self-respect. You can be a decent father to your daughter but it should not be at the expense of being disrespected—excessive child support payments, giving mom the house she didn’t pay for, etc, etc are all justified under…
/r/MGTOW05/10/18 02:49 PM
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She also goes on the offense when the questioner points out that the husband’s working all the time, and she gets to stay at home and have sex, so how is that fair? Apparently he’s being a “judgemental dick” by pointing out the inherent inequity here.
/r/MGTOW05/10/18 01:23 PM
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As a father I find the request insulting as well. I couldn’t imagine giving over one of my existing children to some stranger just because they “really want to have kids.” I don’t see this scenario as being appreciably different. The fact that I don’t yet (and likely will never) have an emotional relationship with this child is immaterial: I should want what’s best for my kids (truthfully since children are born into this world innocent I’d prefer to see them all get a decent shot at life, wheth…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/18 08:25 PM
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You’re not doing a kindness to this woman, you’re doing a disservice to your child.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/18 04:40 AM
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You guys are arguing two sides of the same coin here. It’s more or less the male/female ying-yang. For a woman FWB with no chance of commitment is worse than being pumped and dumped. For a man “friends with no chance of sex ever” with a woman he is romantically attached to is worse than a limited sexual relationship that never goes anywhere. I agree that (for marriage) there are more valuable things a woman can offer than sex, but I also agree that if a woman thinks those more valuable things re…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/18 04:10 PM
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Ha ha ha “I used to be angry that women didn’t want me because of factors beyond my control. Then I realized that that was sexist thinking according to women, and made me even more undesirable in their eyes. Now I feel happy and great!” Men, all you have to do is realize that you aren’t worth jack shit, and then you will feel good about yourselves.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/18 02:54 PM
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Ha ha ha—“Sorry, I won’t be able to help you. Good luck though—sending thoughts and prayers. Hope that works!!!! 🤞"
/r/MGTOW03/10/18 02:46 PM
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“How does this make me any less of a alpha male worthy woman than the choker wearing-vodka soda drinking-wannabe insta model girls most men pick up at the bars and make their end game?‘ Not quite sure what your definition of an alpha male is, but realistically there are a whole range of choices between a single mother and some random bar skank. Even in this mediocre culture where most women are probably a poor bet for marriage, your hypothetical alpha male can select an attractive woman, without…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/10/18 02:21 PM
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A variety of possibilities: (1) The makeup and fashion choices are successfully fooling the men into thinking you are more attractive than you are. Makeup and fashion are very good at pulling the wool over men’s eyes in this respect, and significant numbers of men are completely unaware of this. I’m convinced there would be far fewer beta orbiters, and instragram simps if women stopped using makeup, pushup bras, high heels, etc, etc. Not that there aren’t plenty of attractive women without makeu…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/18 03:45 AM
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Totally sympathize. When men are getting a raw deal en masse by gynocentric society, selfless behavior (particularly towards women) no longer feels like virtue, but rather feels more like masochism.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/09/18 06:34 PM
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Thanks man. I know I can get wordy, ha ha.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/09/18 05:57 PM
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Yeah, I think you’re describing the apex fallacy in action, which involves looking at the other party (in this case “men”) and assuming that the average man is experiencing the same benefits/quality of life, as those on the top of the food chain. I think this thinking underlies a lot of the view of history (pushed by feminists, but accepted by much of society) that women were universally oppressed and that men were the overloards, kicking up their feet on the table, and loving life. I think that…
/r/RedPillWomen30/09/18 05:34 PM
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I think you simply have a hard time genuinely empathizing with men. It’s obvious to your typical male reader that TRP discusses some rather depressing realities about the SMP, and the behavior of women in it, as well as the low likelihood of being able to find a stable, reliable spouse. So the default mantra is to “enjoy the decline” and simply engage in short term sexual relationships with women, which have their enjoyable elements. Even achieving this requires facing far more rejections than y…
/r/RedPillWomen30/09/18 05:15 AM
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In spite of all your downvotes, I’ll respond to you seriously, since I think TRP suffers from limitations that it’s members have not taken seriously. While both MGTOW and TRP are rational responses to the current situation, they have limitations, I think in their ability to reorganize society to restore the social contract between the sexes. I don’t view MGTOW as being inferior to TRP, which is mostly teaching men to more effectively pump and dump. Even by the evolutionary standards TRP applies …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/09/18 09:40 PM
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I am quite sure we have people who think like this in government already, at least in the so called deep state, but wouldn’t suprise me in higher ranks as well. It’s a dystopian worst case scenario to have all of the above implemented, but things can change dramatically across a couple of generations, and the left has a stranglehold on the educational institutions (through University), which is necessary to indoctrinate the youth. Although the internet is empowering dissident voices to counter t…
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:57 PM
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There’s certainly an echo chamber of negativity that can get out of hand, but I view this as largely a response to current social conditions. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that we live in a gynocentric society, and while stories of betrayal occur across gender lines there is much greater support in the mass media, and on the part of the State (family court, among other things) to support selfish behavior amongst women. Combine this with the relatively stronger position women have durin…
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/18 03:35 AM
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The male writer of this piece is such a retarded simp for buying into this woman's delusional nonsense. More than one of those 200 dates involved a perfectly acceptable guy with legit interest in her, but he compared unfavorably to the dopamine hit from the Ghosts of Chads past.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/18 12:10 PM
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Yeah, you could kind of take her on a walk through the woods, and then when you take her back to her car you could say something like “Y’know I could have killed you back there, and left your body in a ditch ... but I’m so glad I didn’t” and then go in for the kiss. That’s taking game to another level friends
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 04:17 AM
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No kidding. I’m not saying the advice is wrong, but if you have to be a dancing monkey have it clear in your mind that a LTR with such a woman is impossible. Successfully negotiating real life—whether as a single person or a couple—means tolerating the mundane, punctuated by moments of excitement, and hopefully substance. An impossible feat with such women.
/r/TheRedPill27/09/18 04:07 AM
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I think ridicule is probably better in most cases, in a kind of cocky, IDGAF way, rather than rational conversation with these women. They need to feel on a visceral level that the idea of seriously dating a single mother, let alone marrying them, is a complete joke in your eyes, and in the eyes of most men. Getting angry and punitive works less than laughing off the idea, and saying some brief smart ass comment about the whole thing. With other men mockery is helpful too, but they need to have …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/18 01:50 AM
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Just so I’m clear, we may not be completely in disagreement—I definitely think women care—more so than men—about falling outside of the pale of social acceptance. I definitely think social shame has to be brought back re: women and sexual promiscuity, letting themselves go, getting divorced even. But to be effective this has to largely work on a level where a given woman feels the weight of social opinion is starting to turn heavily towards these ideals. It is rather difficult to accomplish this…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/09/18 01:47 AM
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Wouldn't conclude anything about your daughter at this age. Your wifes behavior sounds despicable.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 09:33 PM
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Modern women: “Oppressed”=standards of behavior
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/18 06:35 PM
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Since you are being intentionally vague, the only advice I can give you is this: (1) If you are after a short term relationship with a man, your past does not matter at all, unless you are dangerous. (2) If you are after a long term relationship, unless you are 100% certain that you moved beyond it, and old patterns of behavior/thinking/feeling are not influencing your current life, you should give your man a good idea of what is going on after it looks like a mutual connection has developed, bu…
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/18 04:36 PM
10

Where’s Forrest Gump when you need him to take the bullet for the rest of mankind with this one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/18 04:21 PM
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If it’s true that women are only pursuing a narrow sliver of men, mathematically they simply cannot end up with these men long term. Real polygamy is not practiced in the US, and being pumped and dumped by Chad is no substitute for a long term relationship in the minds of these women. Sooner or later they realize there are decades of living left after 30 or 40. I think men project too much in these discussions. They think that satisfying orgasms in your 20s with a number of attractive partners a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/18 04:16 PM
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It probably depends on the temperament of the kids, but very young kids are prone to misbehavior, and sibling rivalries can also flair up on vacation. I think “staycations” where you are not paying top dollar are more worthwhile until the kids start to reach a reliable level of maturity. While family trips with multiple kids can be chaotic, private one on one time with your child can be amazing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/18 03:40 PM
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I agree—men need to be more unapologetic, and just tell women they are unacceptable and beneath consideration. No explanation needed. In forums like this it is worthwhile for men to analyze and discuss in detail the faults of relationships with single moms/other types of problematic women. The women themselves though? They don’t need to be educated. They should introspect and get a clue, it’s not our job to help them in this department.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/18 02:26 PM
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Honestly sex doll companies can bluntly advertise this way: “X percentage of women in American have Y STD.” She doesn’t. The choice is clear fellas.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/09/18 02:29 AM
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I think it’s terrible how words like “nice” and “justice” are being co-opted in modern times into something they aren’t. Being “nice” while not the end all be all of morality is generally a good thing. It’s mainly a bad thing when this trait is employed to tolerate or coddle people who are selfish or cruel (ironically it’s the SIMPS who will pile on “nice guys” who probably do this most of all). If a woman is a bitch being “nice” to her is a bad thing. I would always advise a man against this (w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/18 02:15 PM
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“Just say something that is "upsetting" to them, and watch the hamster race out with the wheel smoking, derail the conversation” No kidding. She meets a guy who says he wants to find a woman who would be a stay at home mother, and she files this under “dating horror stories.” Like the guy committed a felony in front of her or something.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/18 12:14 PM
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Yeah, if a guy is going to have children with a woman at all, this is an additional reason to not get with women in their 30s. You often can’t be sure they genuinely want to be with you, as opposed to being desperate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/09/18 12:29 PM
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It depends on the terms of the marriage. The Old Testament speaks of men writing bills of divorces for their wives, not vice versa. IOW women could not divorce their husbands, but the men could. Men had a stronger hand economically than women. Virginity was the norm before marriage, and female adultery was punishable by death. So while men probably had more obligations to their wives than vice versa, they also had greater authority and economic privilege. While men were charged with the task of …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/09/18 03:25 AM
1

These cultures—at least the died in the wool ones—have mom cranking out a lot of kids. Optimally she is also rearing them well, cooking and cleaning well. Religious enclaves have tighter knit social structures, and so a fair amount of community volunteerism can go on, depending on the community, by these women. Also the distance between their reproductive years, and grandmother years, when they are assisting their married daughters with raising the next generation is shorter. I’m not saying that…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/09/18 03:14 AM
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This guy has a sexual thing for this sort of erotic humiliation, but rather than admitting he’s just a hedonist in the extreme, who wants to be disrespected 24/7 as part of his erotic fixation, he describes their relationship in noble sounding terms to make it seem like he’s simply developed more evolved moral sensibilities than the rest of us. There’s more to life than fulfilling every last sexual proclivity. Sometimes it’s better to just say “no” to yourself. Unfortunately we as a society stil…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/18 10:56 PM
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Can’t say I was promiscuous before getting married, but I had higher SMV then the women I was with. Didn’t enjoy breaking it off with a woman that became attached. The process of breaking another person’s heart is not enjoyable for me. For me, and I assume most men, a promiscuous lifestyle only carries the veneer of living the dream if you are repeatedly sleeping with very high SMV women, or women that you have oneitis for. Everything else is just masturbation, with a modest ego boost, because y…
/r/MGTOW20/09/18 02:52 PM
1

Good of you to avoid a relationship with this woman. I’m not convinced that remaining “friends” with her on any level is a positive thing for you, since it seems you had such unusually long-standing feelings for her. Maybe I’m brutal, but I’d cut her out of my life if I were you.
/r/MGTOW20/09/18 02:07 AM
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Exactly, a young pretty woman with neotenous features can get by for a while even if her personality has some serious flaws, and she is too masculine. When the looks start to go to hell, and the weight gain occurs, the mask falls off and ... what’s the appeal? So many women just can’t face the awful, earth-shattering truth, that they have zero appeal, especially once the looks are gone. They just can’t stare into that abyss.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/18 09:44 PM
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No kidding—70% and they can’t find a representative sample of such men who can intelligently articulate their misgivings?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/18 09:34 PM
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I missed the part where this article conducted extensive interviews with such men, and presented the unvarnished truth about their motivations, with quotes, and without sugar coating things. The best they do is to say that some men can’t handle the “pressure” of responsibility, but then otherwise bemoan the effects on women, and quotes some random dude who basically says these guys should man up and become pack mules for society. Hard to imagine any Asian MGTOWs reading this article and giving A…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/18 09:32 PM
1

Why does a woman need “help” with this? Do I need help because I have the male urge to sleep with women other than my wife? Acknowledge the impulse, and either obey it or don’t, but don’t make it sound like it’s more complicated than that. Want to marry a billionaire, but none will date you? Date nonbillionaires, and STFU. If you can’t be reasonably happy living with this reality, make the ethical decision to live alone, recognizing that you will make any future husband miserable, and potentiall…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/18 09:23 PM
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No kidding. If a woman is too lacking in insight to see this element to her personality, she should just be put out to pasture. Why help her if she can’t self regulate and behave with common decency? At best she’ll do a patch job, and make some guy miserable long term once she’s legally entangled in a marriage with him, and no longer has any incentive to being a decent person.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/18 09:19 PM
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Her kids have like zero chance at having a normal wholesome childhood.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/09/18 11:33 AM
8

This just shows that the relative ease of access to sex experienced by women is more a function of the male sex drive than any objective beauty on a given woman’s part.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/18 09:14 PM
2

She looks like Kylo Ren in drag.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/18 09:11 PM
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Consider that there is no woman that is 1/42,318 in beauty. The range of variation in beauty—at least in my opinion—isn’t that great. I think beauty plateaus probably somewhere between the 1/100 to 1/1000 mark, even though this would be difficult to quantify. Apart from developing an infatuation for a particular girl, I think girls at that level are fairly interchangeable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/18 09:05 PM
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Good point—always important to look past the bravado. Sometimes I think women are better at trash talking then men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/18 08:52 PM
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Except you know that most of these post-wall women are ugly. The beautiful and awful thing about the sexual marketplace is that it doesn’t really matter at this stage of the game that many of them are horny if no man wants them, except for a dumpster diving hookup. So as awful as the comments are, they can’t even begin to sell the fantasy that they are young nubile girls gone wild. Those days of significantly contributing to the decline of the culture are largely over for them, apart from these …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/18 08:50 PM
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I don’t get a real understanding of why you decided the experimental phase was not for you, apart from hearing that there is an anxiety and depression diagnosis which coincided in time. I’m not left with a description of how the behavior led to the depression, or at least worsening of the same, if at all. By the end you kind of make it sound like everything was great!, but just not for you, kind of like how I prefer cookies and cream ice cream to mint chocolate chip. Except mint chocolate chip h…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/18 08:34 PM
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For me a woman’s intellectual accomplishments only augment attractiveness if they appear in my mind to suggest that she has traits that are more valuable for a relationship, namely that she is thoughtful, empathic, capable of looking beyond her emotions, and someone who has the mental maturity to build a life with. Usually you can carry a conversation with such a person much better as well (if you are an intelligent man yourself). So it’s not the career or intellectual accomplishments that would…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/18 05:02 PM
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Yes the minimal investment guy can pull chicks if played right. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/09/18 03:15 AM
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Well it looks, then, like you and I are of a similar mentality on this, even granting that we probably instincively have somewhat different attraction switches when it comes to relating to the opposite sex—you being a female, and me being a male. What I’m mulling over is whether a given man or a woman can have difficulties with their partner’s sexual past for reasons that may at least in part transcend differences between the sexes. My wife was a virgin when we married. I certainly have strong f…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/18 08:22 PM
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Her lavish praises of him seem so disingenuous to me. Any guy looking at this should easily conclude that "being a great guy, and lavishing attention, generosity, on a woman, etc., is completely irrelevant to whether or not she would want to be with you." Apart from the fact that it suggests kindness and generosity are irrelevant to a woman's desire for a relationship with a man (reflecting negatively on her), it also suggests to a man that he should not do any of this shit until she has demonst…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/09/18 07:01 PM
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That's something right there. I wonder if this inadvertently detonates your position in the SMV, if posted far and wide enough, such that every girl in a 10 mile radius gets the memo. Does it signal the very opposite of social proof?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/09/18 06:55 PM
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No kidding--I wouldn't feel half as bad for him if he wasn't wearing those girly highwaters bro.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/09/18 06:53 PM
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"This is one of the hardest red pills I’ve had to swallow. For me, it takes a LOT to be sexually attracted to a guy." I hope you understand that this statement of yours is actually a difficult RP--maybe the most difficult--for many men to swallow. Because what this basically means is that in a promiscuous society--if every woman feels the same way you do--women will only go after guys that are "out of their league." This means that if you are a young guy, and you are a decent person, but only a …
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/18 06:29 PM
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While I think it's ideal for both men and women to wait until marriage, I suspect you are projecting female sensibilities onto him. Psychologically men probably do not feel "used up/chewed up like gum" even after multiple sex partners. I'm trying to understand you on this, though: it seems like you are more disgusted by the physical appearance of the women, not the fact that he slept around. If they were all prettier than you, are you saying you would not feel less attracted to him? Because it s…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/18 06:11 PM
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I can't tell you the percentages, but I really do think personal moral values come into play. It's not just biology, it's whether a given man truly believes in loyalty and honor, and many do not--not just due to lack of religious belief, or self-centerdness, but because many men have reason to believe that being a good man does not help, and may in fact hurt, your chances with women in general (at least while they are young and attractive). On the main RP sub injecting moral discussions into thi…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/18 05:56 PM
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Mixed thoughts on this: I think the quote contains some measure of exaggeration in that it seems to imply that a man can't genuinely bed a woman he wants to sleep with. I think the overall point, though, is that women tend to be in a stronger position to select a genuinely desirable person to sleep with, whereas it's a bit more hit or miss with men. It also suggests, as you point out, that a higher percentage of the time a woman will genuinely want that person for something more than sex, wherea…
/r/RedPillWomen07/09/18 05:43 PM
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I didn't know Cosmo ran that far back. Growing up I was always annoyed, from adolescence onward, about Cosmo's aggressive promotion of sexual promiscuity amongst women, but their efforts were always concentrated on trying to flip as many male attraction switches as possible, through makeup and fashion, flirtation tricks/tricks in the bedroom. I knew, of course, that the goal was to have as many men as possible manipulated, with the goal of scoring at least one Chad. It was never about spicing up…
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 01:39 PM
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I regard it as an injustice that our legal system does not do this. It's really only fair, and I would go further and say that some mechanism should be in place to achieve parity with the degree of reputational damage suffered by the victim. If his name was plastered all over the media before a verdict is reached, there should either be a major settlement from the media companies or this woman needs to go on a high profile sex offender registry for false accusations (really both).
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 01:29 PM
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Too weirded out by this article to even read it. Looks terrible though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/18 07:46 PM
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Yeah, hard to feel sorry for a woman who comes face to face with the abundance mentality dating apps can create for some men. Many suspect the asymmetry in the sexual marketplace (with the balance favoring women) is greater with Tinder and Bumble than the dynamics of face to face approaching, because social media allows people to relate to each other in the context of their raw, animalistic impulses, without considering another person's humanity, and the sheer volume of options can be overwhelmi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/18 07:43 PM
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Can any man imagine having a family and building a life together with this woman, after seeing this video?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/18 07:31 PM
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It’s unfortunate that I have to be so cynical. While developmentally delayed kids are born even to young women, the first thought that comes to mind is what was this kid exposed to in utero.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/18 02:07 PM
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Or they would shame you for not being a “natural” because it actually bothers you that jerks get girls. The fact that you have to emulate these men is somehow a knock against you. Sorry I wasn’t born a sociopath baby. How does that make me a lesser man?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/18 02:00 PM
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Ha ha. It’s like I can hardly think of an answer more unrelated to the actual question than that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/18 01:58 PM
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Yeah I refuse to adopt this retarded language. It falsely legitimizes the schools of thought that promulgate it to begin with.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 03:01 AM
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It’s weird how a strange, mirror image dilmena develops in the SMP with women as they age. Women who get alpha widowed by a Chad during their prime attractiveness years seem to develop this dual type of cynicism that really messes up their ability to relate to men. On the one hand they are cynical about Chads (though if they are young enough they would be willing to hop back on the carousel), but on the other hand they tend to look at men that aren’t on that level of SMV as being desperate, and …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/18 10:29 PM
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I know, it's like modern times must be an absolute paradise for that vanishingly small percentage of men that are seeking an angry, bitter woman to throw sunshine on their life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/18 07:57 PM
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I don't usually throw a bone to the women posted on this sub, since most of the examples are obviously egregious, but are average guys that enthusiastic about marriage in their early 20s? I recall finding that idea totally acceptable myself at about age ~22/23 if I met the right girl, but kind of wondered if I was an outlier. Admittedly I had romanticized notions of what to expect, but still believe that I was ready character-wise.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/09/18 07:51 PM
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Married. These are things that I have learned are pretty essential, without focusing primarily on looks (I include a little at the end). (1) The ability to adhere to moral principles over fleeting desires and emotions. I have to feel like I can trust her/count on her. (2) The ability to genuinely empathize with others. While the ability to empathize with other women is a given, her value goes way up if she demonstrates the ability to empathize, and be fair-minded, with men (3) A stable, happy pe…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/18 06:54 PM
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"I’m sure that I can get commitment from many men but I don’t believe I would truly want any of them. It’s like in my mind, if a guy is high value, he won’t want to commit to me. And if a guy isn’t high value... I don’t even want to bother." I suspect you are being overly optimistic about the willingness of your average man to want to get into a lifelong commitment with a woman. If this guy who plated you is really so much higher than you in SMV, you are likely at best "kind of" pretty. Most men…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/18 06:11 PM
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I think they were too young, and I don't disagree with you. I think the main thing, however, is that she needs to guard herself from letting her hypergamy go into overdrive. I think she got attached to this "alpha" not just because of his relatively high SMV, but because this was a first time experience for her. If she decided to become very promiscuous, and ended up sleeping with another 100 guys, and guy number 101 is modestly superior to this alpha, chances are she wont develop the same degre…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/18 05:48 PM
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I agree with you that the ideal would be an n count of zero, but I also think you are fixating on the numbers too much. The impact on your emotions, and how you relate to men, is really the concern; the n count is a good surrogate measure (for a guy) of the probability that a woman has been adversely affected by a prior relationship. Since we live in a promiscuous culture, however, very few guys seriously care about an n count of two, as long as they feel like you genuinely want them on a physic…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/18 05:37 PM
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Ha ha, like ... what!? I think all the support that's being offered for her here is actually watering down the lesson she learned. She's obviously alpha widowed, and the lesson to be learned is to not behave in a way that increases the likelihood of being alpha widowed. She met her first boyfriend when they were too young, so the odds are that things would not have gone the distance, but being plated made things worse. The lesson re: her first boyfriend is don't get into LTRs when you are a youn…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/18 05:10 PM
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"It's both wonderful and sad how theredpill can bring males and females together." RP awareness may help men understand what attracts women, and it gives them a better understanding of female nature, but this awareness usually deepens feelings of sadness and anger towards women. I empathize with the OP--this is a much more introspective post than I am accustomed to reading on reddit, but if her ex read this post there is a very realistic possibility that he would be filled with rage that she des…
/r/RedPillWomen05/09/18 04:30 PM
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Yup all while they encourage female infidelity and cucked marriages. CNN is seriously cancerous propaganda. My elderly parents watch it, and my dad grew up in a conservative, patriarchal culture. They are just too old and clueless to understand how the network has gone more and more extreme over time (I'm sure it was never great). They still think the talking heads are honorable people.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 03:55 PM
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But if this kind of crap upsets you, it's because you're a misogynist.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 03:50 PM
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That enraged me: she straight up wants to friendzone her husband, and contractually obligate him to provide her with resources. She needs to be nuked from orbit.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 01:19 AM
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Yeah and social media allows you in general to assess their characters pretty quickly.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 01:17 AM
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Ha ha, they need to be quarantined for the good of society.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 11:09 PM
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Yeah—I recall some study (done on women actually) that supposedly showed that women who were in a heightened state of sexual arousal were more likely to either tolerate or be turned on by things they would normally find disgusting. I suspect this is just a human reality, and that men with their higher sex drive are less likely to find average or even unattractive women downright repulsive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 10:28 PM
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Honestly it's ridiculous that our society doesn't promote virginity more, when I think about the collective damage of (1) alpha widowhood, (2) unplanned/unwanted pregnancies (3) STDs. I realize that it's not reasonable for most people to wait well into their 20s (it's even hard enough waiting out of your teens) but I am not convinced at all that our current promiscuous culture is more conducive to happiness than one that makes marriage a precondition for sex for most of its members. Sure, other …
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/18 09:07 PM
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When commentators point out the clear contradiction with her sleeping with 100 men,now claiming she has a low sex drive, and the obvious frustration any man would feel in this situation, this is her response: "I chose to give my fiance my hand and heart in marriage. Isn't that enough?" So, then, just be his platonic friend bitch. Why engage in a legally binding agreement that will extract many thousands of dollars from this man, and penalize him more than you if the arrangement fails? This type …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 08:19 PM
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See below: the problem is that plenty of women lie about the influences past relationships have had on them, especially if the wall is approaching, their fertility is declining, and they are getting desperate to marry. You'll hear this bullshit from women about how they didn't know this, or that, but they now realize they really feel this, or some such nonsense. If a good enough of a provider comes by, he runs the risk of finding out that she compares him to prior lovers unfavorably only after t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 08:05 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately that research shows the correlation with increased divorce risk increasing after like 1 premarital partner or so. We all have a desire to grade women on a curve in our current promiscuous society, partly due to feminism, but partly due to a kind of instinct towards fairness if we have slept with a bunch of women ourselves, but nature reasserts itself it seems: divorce risk rises even with a small number of partners.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 08:02 PM
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A quote from a RPW post a number of months ago. While this account doesn’t clearly indicate that the poster is selfish, it does demonstrate how a woman’s sexual past can totally mess up her ability to enjoy sex with the man she intends to marry and extract resources and protection from. Also, whatever your think of RPW, these women are a minority in the culture. Many women in our culture don’t view sex as something a married woman should engage in with her husband, even if she has a low libido, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 07:26 PM
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He did the right thing, and I hope he doesn't get back together with her. My only criticism of the guy is that he should have ended it much sooner after her revelations, but here's the thing: she makes it sound like he was obligated to accept her sexual history once she developed enough "trust" to tell him these intimate details about her life. Like it's some sort of betrayal that a man would choose to opt out of a relationship when a woman offers personal, but damning, information about herself…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 07:18 PM
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Yeah, I actually went through parts of it recently--I had left pissed off kindle commentary on my ipad, when I came across instances of what looked like blue pilled thinking to me, or at least throwing men under the bus (some of that was pure redpill rage on my part, but I think he is still more charitable to women than men in the book). What's interesting about the book that I failed to see the first time through is that he actually tackles the 80/20 rule in his data sets, and arrives at some i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 07:07 PM
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That's some serious hamstering for her to claim that it's not a buyer's market for women on Tinder. I mean that is honestly infuriating how she can spin this as being in men's favor. (1) No one forces a given woman to go on Tinder. (2) The access to cheap sex is much easier for women, particularly above a certain threshold of attractiveness (which is not that high). (3) It is the height of delusion and dishonesty to make it seem like your average man can get into a satisfying sexual relationship…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 05:17 PM
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I have the book--he admirably looks at large data sets, and is fairly objective, so I think his book has value. I do think he slips into blue pill thinking here and there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 05:11 PM
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Read it awhile ago: I hope he makes good on his promise to provide an updated perspective in 2020.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 04:19 PM
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I truly hate the men that would buy into this crap.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 04:18 PM
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"Game" was thrown around as a term in the black community before it became codified by PUAs.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 03:04 PM
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It definitely seems that the alpha/beta toxicity is worse at least amongst adolescent blacks. If you are a male who plays by the rules, is studious and intelligent, you will oftentime be mercilessly shamed. It's better to just improve yourself, and do what's right for yourself, because in 20 years you will look at the lives of these people and say "Thank God I was smart enough to avoid that."
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 03:03 PM
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Could you imagine the absolute outrage if men started snapping pictures/lifting pictures of their oneitis off of social media, and these robot companies got good at manufacturing their heads and faces, but on much nicer, wall-resistant bodies?! Her: "I'd never go out with you." Him: "That's allright--Imma turn you into a much hotter robot version of yourself!"
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 02:32 PM
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Any homicides that were caused by this I'm convinced would be covered up by the woman's family, media, and legal team.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 02:20 PM
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Ha ha—the real sci-fi dystopia question is: when 100% of the female population are landwales will men keep sleeping with them or will the sex robots win? This story makes me cynical.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 12:18 PM
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Yeah, I guess it’s something you have to see to believe. I never got into the habit of sleeping with clearly substandard women, but I also know that when horny enough a man can find aspects of woman sexy, even if the total package kind of looks like crap. Most clearly obese women look bad in my opinion. But that doesn’t mean I’m incapable of being aroused by a young, overweight woman, who successfully hangs onto an hourglass, and pushes the right kink buttons. A naked female for an already sexua…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 11:17 AM
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Was he concerned you would talk to the girl after the revelation and that she’d tell you things about him that were potentially unflattering out of spite for him?
/r/RedPillWomen04/09/18 09:14 AM
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http://www.nber.org/papers/w22267.pdf?sy=267
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 08:17 AM
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Ha ha—probably some trucker with a couple of missing teeth. The memory is faulty with this one. Seriously, though, are there that many Chads that DTF a 100 lb overweight woman?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 01:53 AM
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“Sure, women - as the catty, petty, backstabbing, intolerant etc ones - are more likely to slut shame each other than men are. However, that doesn't mean that it isn't within male nature to set these boundaries.” When men set up the society with hard limits, punishing when necessary such behavior, women become quite effective at promoting the cultural zeitgeist on a social level. The same women that would shame you for not parroting leftist platitudes and whatever virtue signalling nonsense of t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 12:41 AM
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Yup, relatively nicer guys than her ex, including genuinely good guys, will be crapped all over for the near future, until she starts to feel the hands of time creeping up on her neck.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 12:35 AM
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Seriously—all you have to be if you are a woman is be sufficiently pretty, stay away from the cheeseburgers, apply some makekup, and fake being nice just long enough to cash in with some guys.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/18 12:31 AM
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I agree that the 80/20 rule needs to be analyzed a bit more. Perhaps I’ll post on this at some point, but a couple of observations. One is that IIRC that OKCupid study showed women’s actual messaging behavior was somewhat less harsh than their evaluation of male appearance. They didn’t only return messages to the top 20% IIRC, although they were still pickier than men. The other point is that I read through much of a book called “Cheap Sex: ...” by sociologist Mark Regnerus. He tends to use data…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/18 11:42 PM
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No one leaves this life having fulfilled every last desire. Once you have achieved one desire, it’s human nature to come up with more desires and things to pursue. I’m not saying this to be defeatist, but to point out that it’s a reality of life. Single redpilled men can often boast about all the pussy they’re smashing, and imagine that there isn’t a fundamental limit to what you can have. Tying yourself to ongoing responsibilities such as marriage and childrearing has a way of bringing you back…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/18 11:05 PM
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This is kind of a fault line when you’ve swallowed the redpill. For the single guys, especially those struggling in the SMP, it’s easy to develop a prolonged redpill rage when you see how unprincipled so many women can be, as they follow raw animal instinct. So treating them as not quite human can be easy, and it seems justified as many of them would hardly treat you any better. But you’re married now—yeah, you chose a woman who was hot, but probably not with the best personality. Now that she i…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/18 10:46 PM
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You’re making a decent case for (limited) polygamy in society. Not arab king style, where women are hoarded, but to help men who’s wives have hit the wall hard and early, but still want to maintain a home for the kids. It sounds like elements to her personality don’t help—not that being a sweet, kind woman, suddenly makes a post-wall woman sexy, but a lousy attitude on a post-wall woman can make things worse. Have sex with the lights off, so you don’t see her flaws so much. Don’t jerk off to por…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/18 10:31 PM
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What about the 80/20 rule, and the OK Cupid study that showed that women on that site rated 80% of men as below average in appearance? That seems to contradict what was written here.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/18 10:22 PM
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I find it curious that you are asking this: becoming obsessive about a man who has not demonstrated a commitment to you places you in a very emotionally vulnerable spot, that can end in heartache rather easily with the wrong guy. Isn’t that obvious?
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/18 09:51 PM
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Stop kissing random men (including “friends” that you are not in a committed relationship), and spend most of your time in the company of women. Be more directed about your time—when you actually want to engage with a particular man, to get to know him better, in a context where it is clear that you are checking each other for compatibility. This tendency of yours could compromise the integrity of any committed relationship you do get into, so it’s important to forge a good habit now, and keep a…
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/18 09:48 PM
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This is legit? He couldn’t have consented either by this standard!!!!
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 09:30 PM
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The baby’s only been existence for 3 months by the second photo—how hard can this bitch have been “working?” And no, merely being pregnant doesn’t count here, because the worst ghetto mama in the world can carry a pregnancy to completion. Unless you abort, you are merely letting nature take it’s course. Additionally, you know she was leaning on one or both parents heavily throughout that time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 09:22 PM
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“I wish I can educate every man in the world about this, if only.” Totally agreed. Education can’t negate the drive to pair up with an attractive woman, but the more information we as men dispense, but also process in analytical discussion, the more empowered we as men can be to not step into these potholes, and strengthen the hands of these thots in society. Though I don’t think I was ever at risk for falling into this particular trap, I can understand how a relatively inexperienced 22 year old…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 08:41 PM
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It’s a fair criticism, although it appears that even focusing on merely unwed mothers yields concerning findings. The quote that I provided above (from the 2016 study) seems to use interchangeably the language “non-married” and “single” families to describe the worse life tragectory of boys reared in these environments, suggesting that this might include both families with a long-term live-in male, and those where men are fly by night pump and dumps. I’d have to pull the article, and look inside…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 08:24 PM
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Story picked up in the following conservative website: https://www.dailywire.com/news/35380/doctor-tells-truth-about-gender-pay-gap-medicine-ashe-schow Providing link for my MGTOW brethren in case they want to bomb the comments section. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 07:32 PM
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What would increase his enthusiasm for you is if he confined sexual release only to intances when he’s with you. It would be very unusual for a man to arrive at the age of 27 and not have picked up a tendency towards masturbation—the visual bombardment of scantily clad women, and sexually explicit media is too much for most men. The problem is that it is not so easy to completely dispense with this habit even when in a sexual relationship, even if the woman is beautiful (well, perhaps if he has …
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/18 07:19 PM
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Is it lack of self respect, or is it attraction to his higher SMV, social proof from other women, and IDGAF attitude? I’d like to think all OP needs to do is work on her self esteem, but the RP perspective, if I understand it correctly, is that these qualities about this man affect OP on a primal level, and that many/most women will abandon higher principles (such as only dating ethical and respectful men) when finding themselves in a relationship with such a man.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/18 06:46 PM
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Extremely handsome bipolar guy? This will likely be a tough ride for you. Unfortunately your problem (of comparing yourself to other women) is comparable to the problem the guy after this one will face if you ever get with another guy—that you’ve had “better” in some respect that totally hit all the dopamine centers in your brain. This is just a common dilemma people face in a promiscuous era. It is less likely, however, that this guy is so hooked on a prior lover that she’s all he thinks about,…
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/18 06:40 PM
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He’s talking about the value of commitment, and I’m hearing you talk about marriage due to external pressure/not wanting to lose stature in the eyes of others, as well as wanting a “big” (and presumably expensive) wedding. I also don’t see it clearly spelled out why he has reservations about marriage, suggesting that he may not be opening up to you, or that you are not adequately trying to empathize with his point of view—in this day and age a reasonable man can fear marriage regardless of the a…
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/18 06:23 PM
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After scrolling through your photo essays, I came across a post where you said you were involved with a man who slept with married women, without a conscience. If this is the same guy hard pass.
/r/RedPillWomen03/09/18 06:05 PM
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Stefan Molyneux does a show, which if I recall has good single mother statistics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xf78EltKM I got that above citation from a redpill post on reddit, entitled: “Study: There aren't enough good men because they were raised by women” It’s good to get a good grasp on the data. Common sense obviously predicts a lot of this stuff, but actually looking at the data can silence some of the skeptical voices in your mind, borne from societal indoctrination, as well as give…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 05:01 PM
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Yup it’s the whole plausible deniability dynamic in communication between the sexes. “Me? I’m not dressing sexy! This is just how women’s fashion is (or “I’m dressing for me, not someone else)—it’s you’re fault if you find my attractiveness distracting! Tee Hee!” “But you’d better treat me as an equal at school and at work—better still, let’s have quotas and scholarships in place to give me a leg up!” Thus women get to achieve parity—if not favorable treatment—in the areas of power men tradition…
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 04:36 PM
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Look at the difference between male and female clothing for decades now—especially athletic or summer-wear, and try and tell me there isn’t implicit manipulation of the male sex drive baked into everything. To hell with these women that claim that that’s not the case. This is the air we all breathe in this civilization, and there are far too many retarded men around who lack the capacity to look past their dicks on this issue. Manipulation of the male sex drive ultimately poses a major obstacle …
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 03:10 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately if you are significantly attractive, and young, the odds of having a soft landing are still pretty decent. Find it hard to believe that all those smiley photos reflect the true reality of the dynamic between this chick and her new man. Once the honeymoon period is over, a man deals with the reality of the woman he is with. In order for their marriage (?) to have a semblence of happiness she will have to essentially renounce in mind and deed the approach to living that led to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 02:26 PM
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“In a 2016 paper, David Autor, an economist at M.I.T., and four co-authors, measured academic and economic outcomes of brothers and sisters in Florida born in the decade between 1992 and 2002. For boys and girls raised in two-parent households, there were only modest differences between the sexes in terms of success at school, and boys tended to earn more than their sisters in early adulthood. Among children raised in single-parent households, however, boys performed significantly less well than…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 02:18 PM
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Awww, what a delightful little artsy, craftsy scapbook this thot put together! Memories to last a lifetime and to place on the coffee table. These women always find the Lord after cranking out a bastard or two.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 02:08 PM
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Good to know that if I ever decided to commit statutory rape I’d get punished by not getting a movie role. Totally seems like a fitting punishment.
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 02:40 AM
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“I’ve had Arab sheikhs defecate on me dammit!!! He doesn’t know what he’s missing!”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 02:27 AM
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She just doesn’t get that plenty of high value men are fine for a roll in the hay with even merely moderately attractive women. The range of male economic accomplishment is far more varied than that of female beauty. If you graduated from a large enough of a HS (say 1000 kids) it is likely that you would find at least a handful of girls that could rival in beauty famous actresses, particularly with the benefits of personal trainors, makeup, etc. We’re talking 1 in 100 type beauty. Elite athletes…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 02:25 AM
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Ha ha this bitch is balls to the wall crazy
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 12:48 AM
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The problem is, of course, that you can confidently promise you will be that height throughout your life together. She can promise, and alter the terms of the arrangement post marriage, once she has the power of the State behind her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 06:23 PM
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Yes I love the smell of schadenfreude first thing in the morning.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 03:40 PM
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“I hear this one so often, only from women. Sure, sexual attraction is biological and important blah blah blah but can't you find my squishy ass, saggy boobs and loose pussy attractive?” These women fail to realize that they are preaching to the gender that is called upon to risk, and experience rejection. And we experience it sooner, as our SMV typically peaks later. By their logic being a responsible, ethical, hardworking man would be sufficient for a man to get and remain happily married. But…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 03:36 PM
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“Wild-eyed "fucking bastard men" fury in her eyes, as she constantly posts about how blessed she is, and how much she loves her three overweight kids.” Priceless description.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 03:25 PM
1

True--its unforgivable.
/r/MGTOW02/09/18 03:04 PM
1

Was she still Ms. Flappy arms when she started cheating?
/r/MGTOW02/09/18 03:03 PM
1

This like 1000%. The fact that there are women out there that look so good that they even look good with short hair, doesn’t suddenly mean that short hair looks good on women.
/r/MGTOW02/09/18 02:58 PM
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I’d buy that, but she expended extraordinary efforts trying to make herself look good when she was younger, and now she’s decided to go all drunk lesbian aunt on the world. Why the contradictory behavior?
/r/MGTOW02/09/18 02:57 PM
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That’s the amazing thing. When I was a man in my young 20s I never thought I would reach a point where I thought “I have too much to lose to get involved with your typical woman.” I’m happily married, but if things ever went seriously south for whatever reason, I would have major reservations about seriously dating a woman again—my life is sufficiently good, and I make too much money (apologies, I’m not trying to sound like I’m bragging) to risk it on some entitled woman looking to manipulate me…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 01:51 PM
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No kidding, I’m 6’1” but am endlessly offended by this “short men” crap. She depicts this like it’s a character fault. I can understand a woman who’s 5’11” feeling awkard about dating a man 5 inches shorter than her, but a 5’2” girl needs to STFU about dating a 5’6” guy. She’s still dating up the hypergamous ladder, and finding her “protector,” she just doesn’t acknowledge it. I’m convinced it’s more about showing off to other women. Tom Cruise, who’s a short man, has been regarded as a sex symb…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 01:41 PM
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She checks her blood pressure 5 times a week at the gym, and thinks that counts.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 01:23 PM
2

We were all over, but didn't go to Sicily. The face-grabbing occurred in Florence if I remember.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 01:14 PM
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And if you are the rare man to successfully run that statistical gauntlet, you’ll discover ... that she’s mediocre AF, and no man in their right mind would want to be with her long term.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 11:51 AM
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“You'll need to suck the testosterone off a horse testicles to get the balls to try to pick up a Sicilian girl.“ Ha ha—I went on a HS trip back in the late 90s to Italy with a bunch of American boys and girls. I recall the Italian men as being pretty aggressive in approaching the girls on our trip—making random comments as they walked by, driving up next to the tour bus and blowing kisses, on one occasion a girl had her face grabbed by a guy, who whispered “bellissima” or some something to her, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 11:39 AM
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Ha ha that’s delusional—it’s like saying “no man with an income below 350K, ‘cause I’m special!” Unlike looks, where there is at least a modest amount of subjectivity, things like height requirements can be quantified, and you can see just how delusional and entitled these morons are.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 11:27 AM
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Oops, what she really meant to say was that they are r/niceguys and deep down inside were faking it, but really just felt entitled to sex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 11:13 AM
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Yeah, my strong suspicion is that the widespread promiscuity in society has been primarily midwifed by homely to marginally attractive women (in the 5-6/7 range) trying to sleep with men who are fundamentally more attractive than they are, during their prime attractiveness years, in order to bribe them into a relationship. Problem is, of course, that many of these men like the fact that they can sleep around, so they often don’t commit. Then these same women project their feelings of anger onto …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 11:11 AM
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I thought this might be a guy, but then I observed the retarded application of the word “creepy” to something so clearly not creepy, and can only conclude that this is a female. Transgender serial killer that dresses like a circus clown=creepy. Usage of words like “male” and “female”=not creepy. JFC.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 10:55 AM
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If you look in old time medical books, where they have specimens of people with physical malformations—they make them stand and take the pictures just like that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 03:37 AM
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It’s the chasing the dragon phenomenon: these women try to chase that original high, or set of highs, failing to realize that no physical high is permanently sustainable, and that the law of diminishing returns always applies. But since women default to viewing men as the ones that have to prove themselves worthy, it results in them finding later men wanting.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 03:32 AM
28

50 shades anyone?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 03:28 AM
1

Ha ha you found the Lord through your anger
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 08:36 PM
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I misread for a second and thought that she said "if you are a feminist you are sexist." How could I be so optimistic.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 08:31 PM
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Every time I read something like this I am tempted to assume it's a troll post. There's no way that your average woman can be so lacking in empathy ... right? I mean, granting that they can't quite empathize with the degree of urgency behind the young male sex drive/drive towards women, but you would think that she would recognize that telling someone they're "second best," is a real insult. Because that's exactly what she's saying--"you're plan B, if I can't get the man I really want long term.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/18 06:34 PM
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We’ll agree to disagree. My perspective is at least as valid as that of a moral nihilist, as it all devolves down to subjective impressions, and power dynamics. If moral absolutes didn’t exist, I would then argue that I believe people who engage in incest should be killed by the courts, finding my point of view more valid then yours simply because I hold it. No sophistry about “fixing genetic linings” needed. Easy peezy. For the record I have no interest in killing anyone. This is a passive wish…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 03:09 AM
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Look at those teeth
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/18 02:03 AM
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Before they get pregnant “real men” are dark triad alphas, who have a harem of women. After they get pregnant “real men” are simps with a bank account, who are willing to be her personal doormat. A woman can never tell a man what it means to be a real man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/18 02:01 AM
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You dime her out to your parents for being a straight up hoe.
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 01:54 AM
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I think that marginalized men, who are deeply cynical about the prospects of pair bonding with a woman, will prefer high end sex robots to real relationships, especially if it’s trading a virtual reality/robot “10” for an overweight and entitled “5.” The question is only how large will these numbers be. The gynocentric narrative is that this only will apply to men who are “losers”—men who would have difficulties with women in any time and place, but I think we can all agree that the numbers of d…
/r/MGTOW31/08/18 01:29 AM
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Yeah, I’d really like to know what their respective physical appearances are. Though not guaranteed the odds are that he’s more attractive than her. Next possibility is that they are somewhat close in appearance, but she’s average looking, burnt out on the carousel/being pumped and dumped by men, but he’s fairly charismatic, in spite of being of a more average appearance. This scenario would be more plausible if they were both 32, and he was making decent money. There is not a snowball’s chance …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/18 01:11 AM
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Remember when you were young and naive enough to take a woman’s tears seriously?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/08/18 12:55 AM
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These pseudounicorns are best produced in a certain context: (1) Raised with a system of values that discourages only thinking about themselves before everything, and places moral responsibilities on the shoulders of women, not just men. (2) Her parents are (happily) together (3) She's intelligent and conscientious (which ironically makes her vulnerable to feminist indoctrination, as she will likely be college educated and beyond), but has started to on her own reject blue bill thinking. (4) Low…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/18 09:19 PM
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Yeah, women seem acutely aware of their ability to reject men, until Chad slips one in there, they develop feelings, and he's not interested in anything more. Suddenly it's like they were powerless all along in their minds. And herein lies the danger of risk for false rape accusations--women so easily slip into a passive, victim mentality when it suits them, and society accepts the narrative.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/18 08:38 PM
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Somebody should do an animation of these broads telling each other these useless platitudes in some room, pan out to show that they are in fact in a rocket ship, and unknowingly being blasted off into outer space still uttering their oblivious bullshit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/18 08:35 PM
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If they were really so proud of themselves they would simply refer to themselves as fat or obese, and stop putting on makeup/die their hair in an obvious attempt to make themselves look conventionally attractive. It's so ridiculous that perfectly fine men will be shit tested by women to suss out the secret beta within, while they will ask us to openly deny reality in order for more of them to have a room at the (social and sexual) table. Spending too much time at the table got them into this pro…
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 08:17 PM
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It's like the height of retardation that so many women seem to think that male visceral attraction towards women is primarily a social construct, whatever the hell that means. Men are ridiculed all the time for being the more socially incompetent gender. I suppose there's some truth to that, but I don't think there's that huge of a difference, especially when I contemplate all the obese women who think they are God's gift to the world, and the broads with Skrillex haircuts, and studs in their na…
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 08:13 PM
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It’s definitely an interesting question how far you draw the line, and different cultures—including ones that punish incest—may none the less draw different lines in the sand. It’s interesting to speculate how much 1st degree relative incest was actually “necessary” for the advancement of human society—I imagine not much beyond the dawn of humanity, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen in significant numbers after that point.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 08:08 PM
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Even though the hilarity alone is reason enough to have such apps on the market, I think they have a genuine benefit—I can’t tell you even now how often my first impulse is to find a woman attractive, or even beautiful, before I reflect upon the fact that much of that is due to the trickery of makeup. I’ve often wondered how much approach anxiety would be lessened if men could fix in their minds how the given woman looks without makeup. I remember looking up “pornstars without makeup” photos a w…
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 08:00 PM
1

I think it's sufficient that men simply have spaces to primarily socialize with men and vigorously exchange ideas without pandering to women whatsoever. As soon as women are introduced into the picture you get men pandering to female attention, self-censoring themselves, throwing other men under the bus to curry favor, and all of that BS. There is a desperate need for male spaces outside of simple athletics, and these virtual spaces have their value, if only because they allow us to hash out, ho…
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 05:10 PM
2

Annoying: amongst the vanishingly small number of women I've heard contributing anything meaningful to these discussions on the state of modern gender dynamics (really the cancer of gynocentrism) I have never heard even one rival the insights gleaned from the men who have thought on these issues with the greatest depth. Mostly you just feel grateful that there seems to be some women who are capable of looking past the solipsism, but then you can never be too sure: feminism is all about preying o…
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 05:05 PM
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This peace of trash just has to throw all of the buzzwords at the public to scare them, and advance her misandrist agenda: "violence against women," "#metoo,""incels," who are somehow all "straight white men." All the leftist/feminist buzzwords, strung together Mad-libs style to form a puff piece. There is no logical argument that sex dolls are desired by men primarily for violent purposes, and even if they were, who cares? They're inanimate objects. But I doubt any business owner would want to …
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 04:40 PM
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She and her brother should be executed for incest (if ironclad proof was available), but in the West we have the consenting adults standard of sexual morality--as opposed to punishing people for sleeping with a person in the wrong category (married woman, brother/sister, even outside of marriage period). Most men buy into this, one degree or the other, including ultimately many redpilled men. This is partly due to the fact that the alternate sexual morality is found in the Bible, which is increa…
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 04:30 PM
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This is why I can't bring myself to sympathize with women in this poster’s “predicament”—far too many women will detonate their marriages later on, even though they were all hard up at the beginning to get married or be in an LTR. Your desire to be in one means nothing to me, if you lack the resolve to stay in one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/18 12:04 PM
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But it’s all between consenting adults so it’s A-OK. /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/18 03:24 AM
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“Yes we went into this as hookup buddies but that was his idea and I just kinda went with it thinking we’d meet a few times and I’d just carry on actually looking for a relationship. I didn’t expect this to happen. He didn’t either.” Apart from the blame shifting, and denial of moral agency here, I have to say I’m glad ultimately that women get burned in this scenario. Am I supposed to lament the fact that this woman can’t live life, from beginning to end, on easy mode, with the massive societal…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/08/18 01:54 AM
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Ha ha ... record scratch.
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 10:53 PM
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Seeing how she's using percentages and all, it sounds like she's good at math, and probably has a good head on her shoulders! He should reconsider breaking it off with this catch of a woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/08/18 03:16 PM
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Yet you remember when women lost their minds last year when that app came out that estimated how a woman would look without makeup? I think it was taken down off of the app store, and I’m not sure it was put back up. Yet these stupid filters on OLD profiles are all the rage, covering up a woman’s flaws, not to mention the usual tricks of (1) makeup (2) head-only shots (or at unusual angles) to hide the obesity (3) posting old pictures, or the 1 decent looking picture out of 10, etc. We have a sy…
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 09:51 AM
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Disgusting how many men give these women the pussy pass as long as they find them sexually attractive.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 03:21 PM
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So the filters are essentially designed to assist in deceiving the male under the guise of being cutesy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/08/18 11:44 AM
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Likewise. Blessed with 3 sons. This guy’s father sounds amazing. Damn.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 01:44 AM
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Thanks for your insight.
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 01:24 AM
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In a sane society this woman’s adultery would be criminalized and severely punished. Although I can fault the guy for not divorcing her, I realize that he has to contend with the State, and fallout on the children because of his filthy wife’s behavior. What I truly despise, however, is that there are no shortage of men who will sleep with a married woman, and I have seen such callous admissions amongst redpill aware men on the main TRP sub. We can deride this guy for being a cuck, but doing the …
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 01:11 AM
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Exactly, and since you usually can’t be sure if she will screw around, you can easily be castigated as being jealous or controlling. The girl’s night out to venues where they serve ETOH is bullshit. Theoretically you should be able to trust your woman, but if she rode the carousel in the past, and is in proximity to thirsty men without principles, what basis do you have to place trust in anyone?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/18 11:49 PM
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There is a need also to have an ironclad backbone—even to the point of “irrationality”—in sexual matters. Most of us who grew up in the West were reared in a culture where anything goes sexually, as long as it’s “consensual.” The only things that are verboten are coercive sex (especially against women), and being perceived as being “insecure” or having sexual hangups about promiscuous sex. This latter part is an Achilles heal for men in general, and women who might want to hold onto their virgin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/18 11:44 PM
1

I hope you're right about the effectiveness of men walking away. I'll check out the link.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/18 09:02 PM
1

Exactly, there are plenty of slow cooker meals that can cover more than one meal (so all you need is rewarm time), and meals that can be prepared in <20 min. You just have to amass the right repertoire of recipes.
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 07:45 PM
5

Ha ha, roof cave in lottery
/r/MGTOW27/08/18 07:41 PM
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Why is every word capitalized? It's like this is a really long title to a book or something.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/08/18 11:45 AM
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I think the experience of the black community forecasts what we will likely see with white America, as the social pathologies are following a similar arc, but are just a half generation to a generation behind. I remember in the 80s and 90s the “strong black woman” rhetoric, as well as the stereotype of the inner city black woman being fat, crass, and entitled, and completely impossible to live with. I think we are seeing this occurring in white America, with open materialism, fat positivity, cel…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/18 08:13 PM
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Agreed—even if this was proven to be a troll post, WTF with all the likes?! Clearly it resonates with a significant mass of women out there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/18 08:04 PM
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Love how she opens with the line that she’s dated men that “many would call” arrogant jerks. Like it’s just a theory that her criminal ex-boyfriend’s an asshole, ha ha. Also the solipsism here is extreme: the first commenter basically accuses her of being used up, and now wanted to leach off of the resources of a future unsuspecting good man, and yet she somehow manages to twist that into the fault being with her future beta provider: he shouldn’t want to “keep me” by providing, etc. She totally…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/18 07:56 PM
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Am I really supposed to feel bad for this woman’s expectation that multiple attractive men a weekend would take her out on “dates” after her weight loss, and her subsequent feelings of disappointment when this didn’t happen? I could give two shits about her story if she actually looked good, but the fact that she’s still obese makes this all the more ridiculous.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/08/18 12:41 PM
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“The plus-size still-fat blogger was shocked to discover she got more male attention from fetishists before her extreme medically necessary, yet still insufficient weight loss, but was outraged when she discovered why that the Wall remains undefeated, weight loss or not.”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/08/18 12:34 PM
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In my darker moments I’ve thought about trolling the over 30 dating sub, and advising women to “never compromise,” and basically keep chasing Chad, because “you deserve it,” “true love is right around the corner for you—you’ll see!,” so they roll off the fertility cliff, and fully crash through the Wall, before they come to their senses. Thing is, I would view this as trolling, but a fare number of women and manginas people view this as actually legit advice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/08/18 12:26 PM
4

Ugh the number of women who think like this and adversely influence, in one way or another, the behavior of younger women is likely staggering.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/08/18 12:22 PM
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Apart from the famous tendency for women to view most men as below average in appearance, I think she’s attracted to inaccessibility. When a guy is inaccessible, and his attractive qualities are revealed, she responds to them. Those same guys on a date? She’ll cut things off (after he pays for a couple of dates of course). I knew a woman like this who finally got married. A year into the marriage, her husband told her he never loved her. Life’s funny like that sometimes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/18 01:49 PM
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The depravity of these women reaches across generations, however, as inevitably a sizable chunk get knocked up, if not married, and they do a lousy job of raising the next generation. Another generation of takers, and people on the public dole.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/18 04:06 AM
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Agree 100%
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/18 04:51 PM
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Does he have any issues with mental illness? Just curious, as it seems odd that he cant find some sort of stable—not necessarily high paying—employment at his age.
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/18 03:49 PM
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At least she has her priorities straight! Being under 6 feet is an even harder pass for her than not having a job.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/18 03:01 PM
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I know, and these homeless dudes aren’t even helping her get anything to eat in this caption—like WTF men?!
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 02:03 AM
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The quote from Clinton is about as gynocentric as they come. It’s an appropriate meme for this forum.
/r/MGTOW21/08/18 02:01 AM
3

Great, underrated comment
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/18 01:53 AM
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Aren’t we supposed to be making fun of women on this sub?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/18 01:44 AM
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These are all interesting theories, but you don't actually know any of the people on this forum in real life, right? You can spin it however you want--from my observation, men who are more experienced with women tend to get disillusioned with them more, as they spot problematic patterns of behavior. It's the young and minimally experienced that idealize women, because they believe the "sugar and spice" lies. I also don't see the point in making fun of divorced men--are you asserting that all of …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/08/18 09:43 PM
2

Her graduate degree is in coloring books.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/08/18 09:22 PM
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No kidding: how smart do you have to be to not have a dime to your name?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/08/18 09:20 PM
2

Because you know most of these guys would go along with the egalitarian mantra when it’s women bitching about being treated fairly, but these fucks are willing to forgive every sin, commute every sentence, as long as they’d like to have sex with the female perpetrator. They don’t realize that the male sex drive is the vehicle that fuels female privilege in an egalitarian gynocentric society. When women can get away with anything, the wellbeing of men as a whole is undermined.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 06:24 PM
3

Im fascinated by it and despise it at the same time.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 12:29 PM
3

These bitches always insert an lol after their self centerdness is made public either by themselves or others.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 12:25 PM
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I despise the fact that there are inevitably men that come out of the woodwork, and blow this off, because she’s supposedly hot (she’s okay), or because “it’s every 17 year old boy’s dream.” The necessity to counter the pussy pass is reason enough to have her raked over the coals, in the media, and the courts. It’s about justice, not about what teenage boys fantasize about (and plenty of female minors fantasize about having sex with legal adults as well, but that’s not how we treat these cases i…
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 12:13 PM
1

It’s the lead story in drudge. Edit for clarity
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 12:10 PM
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Absolutely—I would never turn myself into an object of amusement for some entitlted female, at my own expense, or at the expense of my own dignity.
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 12:09 PM
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I’ve noticed this tendency, every once in a while, on the main redpill sub. It can be in the form, for instance, of rationalizing sleeping with a married woman, because her husband is “likely a blue pilled beta.” Forgetting about the children, who are victimized by the needless breakdown of a marriage, the husband is still the wronged party, unless actively encouraging infidelity in his wife. We can’t know how bluepilled any of these guys are, they may simply be naieve. Plenty of redpill men use…
/r/MGTOW20/08/18 12:06 PM
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Definitely seek medical attention—this can spiral out of control, so you want to make sure your psychiatrist can head off full blown mania before it sets in. If you don’t have a psychiatrist, probably best to go to a local ED that has a psychiatric emergency room to see if you can get adjustments/started on anything.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/18 02:40 AM
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It’s fine for a woman to look attractive, but dressing like a hooker signals to me that she is a massive attention whore, if not an actual whore. And given the low quality of women these days, why would I insist on standing in line behind like 50 guys that she’s enticing with her slutty behavior? The juice isn’t worth the squeeze: even if I beat out all those guys, I most likely will discover that this woman has no principles and not worth investing any time in.
/r/MGTOW19/08/18 10:52 PM
1

HAHAHAHAHAHA—“dress slutty and always act docile.” Yup that’s how you inspire a man’s confidence for marriage, just slut it up! They.have.no.idea.
/r/MGTOW19/08/18 10:48 PM
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While I agree that a decent chunk of men could come back to the plantation in this situation, the government is slow moving, especially with female voters. It’s political suicide to cutback on welfare handouts, unless perhaps the tax base totally dries up (and even then sociopathic politicians may still pander). By the time that happens I think redpill thinking will be so entrenched in the psyche of men that the number of men that can be roped back into a thankless marriage, with a week hand in …
/r/MGTOW19/08/18 10:41 PM
2

That article was retarded in its incoherence—it goes from these studies, to Nixon vs. Cuomo, to Omarosa and Trump—like WTF?! Talk about free association. She got paid for that shit?!
/r/TheRedPill19/08/18 08:35 PM
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She looks like she's in her 50s. What exactly is appealing about this woman, and why is she not expending more effort to even attempt to make herself sound appealing? It's posts like this that really make me think sex dolls have the potential to shake up the SMP in ways not quite foreseen.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/18 05:56 PM
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Gotta love the Huffingtonpost hamstering about “slut shaming” and correlation-causation critiques of the study. What intelligent man in his right mind would consider marrying a promiscuous woman because correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation and maybe you really can turn a hoe into a housewife!?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/18 12:21 PM
1

But oftentime only after displacing men from educational programs that might have garnered them that job. And they're the ones that get the bulk of the scholarship grant money.
/r/MGTOW17/08/18 08:41 PM
1

I remember running the numbers for a RedpillWomen post, because some moron was going on about how being a stay at home mom was so hard. I laid it out: most American women are not having large, Amish style families. Even granting that taking care of a small child is the "hardest job in the world" (it isn't), we're talking no more than 4-5 years of full time work per child. Typical American family size of 2 kids--10 years tops of full time parenting, and oftentimes a life of ease afterwards. Essen…
/r/MGTOW17/08/18 08:37 PM
6

She looks like one of the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/18 07:54 PM
6

Honestly that could work as an intro to a film—as a phone exchange, before detailing the life of a DGAF guy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/18 02:29 AM
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I you are going to date, I recommend you consider your dating market <25. At 30 too many of these women are desperate for their beta provider and will do your best to keep you in the dark about their true personalities until the ring is slipped on the finger. They are also more jaded, and less attractive on average. Under 25 the sense of desperation isn’t there (especially if she is attractive), and will likely not LTR you unless there is some genuine interest there, not just feeling pressure fr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 11:11 PM
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Don't see these things satisfying the urge for hypergamy. Jerkboy charm is in short supply with these things. There is no social prestige with these things--sure it may end up that fat, post Wall spinsters will stop feeling shame about having them, but that's not the same thing as saying these things will satisfy the desire to pair with a man higher than them in the social/financial/sexual hierarchy. Not convinced women are as visually oriented as men. I predict that if the uncanny valley is ade…
/r/MGTOW16/08/18 09:59 PM
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Excellent
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 09:40 PM
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Amazing the euphemistic, coquettish language that many women use. Way before the redpill, I might have been annoyed by her casual entitlement, but not have thought seriously about her N count, or what's being left out from her recounting of events. To a naieve, young man, she comes across as almost classy. Terrible the wool that is pulled over the eyes of many a man. Edit for clarity
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 09:38 PM
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No kidding: layers on layers of deception, when you consider the realistic possibility that the photos are old as well. Damn.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 05:18 PM
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Initiation for young men can basically consist of them demonstrating competence in any number of preselected valuable life skills, giving them recognition for that, and the deserving autonomy in that domain. It doesn’t have to be a widespread cultural institution—if you are a father and you have a child who is learning a martial art, for instance, you can celebrate advancement to a certain stage/belt excetera. Perhaps encourage him to employ that skill on an instructor level, and reward him for …
/r/TheRedPill16/08/18 04:41 PM
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What percentage of these guys do you think are (1) simps who kind of have their act together (beta bux) vs. (2) thuggy, or borderline retarded dudes who literally are looking to achieve sexual release and nothing else? While it’s bad enough either way, if the bulk of the guys are #2 then at least this entitlted queen will experience misery for years to come.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 04:14 PM
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Yup, and she just told you she won’t do a damn thing to maintain her appearance for you, you can be sure you will have no parental authority over her kids (she will block any of that, and the kids will likely have behavioral problems anyway), but eventually she will expect you to chip in money for the children like you were the father. Male provisioning/protection must come along with male authority, or it’s a no deal. You can’t run a household like this, but why would I want to with an entitled…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 04:08 PM
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And she had the courtesy to more or less tell you that that’s what you will see all the time with her. But I do wonder if she’s heavier than her pictures.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 04:04 PM
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While I think it’s worthwhile for redpill men to work in collaboration on an organizational level, much can be accomplished with a legion of men, all acting independently, but with redpill knowledge. I’m assuming that not all MGTOW, and RP types are just living in a cabin in the woods, or retreating from occupations that exert some influence on the world. Some people have the potential to be employers, mentors, and work inside the family court system, for instance, acting independently, but with…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/18 01:30 AM
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I think it's possible if a sizable percentage of top 20% men either go full MGTOW, or at least refuse to marry/commit while having zero children with these women. My suspicion though is that things will be more like the inner city communities, where the most sexually active guys will be too stupid to not get these women pregnant. If the women get knocked up, they may be sufficiently satisfied with being pumped and dumped by attractive men, and bearing at least some of their children. Higher IQ a…
/r/TheRedPill16/08/18 01:18 AM
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Be my guest! I’m no cartoonist. In the 80s there was a comedy bit called “Super Dave Osborne” where the premise was that Super Dave was an old time stuntsman. The bit was that he would set up some elaborate “death defying” stunt, and it usually ended up with a mannequin that looked like Super Dave getting annihilated at the end. Somehow he’d live to try again ... I can see the potential for some serious black humor here, with Captain Save a Hoe going to spectacular extremes to white knight, etc,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/08/18 01:10 AM
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Somebody needs to do a “Captain Save a Ho” comic, where the premise is that the Captain swoops into all these scenarios to save some thot, inevitably resulting in his spectacular death, only to be resurrected and start again in the next issue. If done right could be funny and educational.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/18 08:18 PM
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Ahhh ... yes ... I see. That’s fine: carry on then sir, ma’am, ze.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/18 05:18 PM
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Who are you and what’s your name!?!?! Who should I report you to for that outrageous statement?!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/18 05:17 PM
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Release you pain, my son ... https://goo.gl/images/aJpTWe
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/18 03:28 PM
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Gotta love the euphemistic explaining that she wants a guy with a “similar background.” Like it’s so hard to find a guy that likes to read also, and even is amenable to checking out a show. I detect that she is possibly not so attractive, and perhaps never was—that’s what her statement of a guy not being into “her look” is all about. While women definitely have a stronger hand in the SMP throughout their late teens and 20s, average and unattractive women are still average and unattractive, and I…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/18 03:25 PM
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It doesn’t: the intention is to capitalize on the growing popularity of the redpill, and the euphoria many men are experiencing at glimpsing the truth behind one aspect of reality (sexual dynamics). By drawing in this audience they hope to manipulate them and the Overton window towards hatred of Jews.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/18 01:42 AM
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If your goal is a hookup I can see vetting having limited utility. If the goal is an LTR/marriage, social media offers a huge advantage for a man WRT vetting. The problem is that most men in society start off dating mainly for short term sexual purposes, but through the force of inertia get dragged into the marriage game. That's dumb: unless you are 100% certain you will not get married, or have a significant LTR with a woman, you need to vet her rigorously, and be judgemental regarding potentia…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/18 05:05 PM
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They're pissed off you're not giving them the attention they think they deserve. The weaker sex has no business passing judgement on the alphaness or betaness of the stronger sex. They will do so, but keep in mind that if most of those women retained the same characteristics but were anatomically male they would be far down the male hierarchy. They're playing Monday morning quarterback to the people that actually do the heavy lifting in society.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 04:47 PM
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It goes beyond that, because once they recognize their SMV is plummeting suddenly they want to find a beta provider, and reform their image into something they never were: Always make sure to sh-t test women who are post wall, reformed carousel riders, on their fake attempts at cleaning up their act and trying to project a good woman image. Mock their desperation.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 04:40 PM
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Yup, women don't like to see men outpacing them in SMV, and will often do what they can to tear him down--unless he was already a Chad, and she was DTF. Otherwise it's crabs in a bucket.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 04:38 PM
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I think she means she doesn't have a problem with short guys if they have a good personality. 4 kids at 32: was the divorce worth it? How many of these marriages dissolve because dad beat the crap out of her, as opposed to simply being mediocre, and hence not worth dissolving due to the subsequent impact on the kids? I can hear the male infidelity argument as a reason for divorce, but I would also have to be certain she didn't cut him off from sex first, or wasn't an insufferable c-nt to him. An…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/18 04:34 PM
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No kidding—like it’s something I gotta work myself up to. Like I have to eat right, get my cardio on point, and do supersets, and then maybe I can accept this dumpster fire into my life. Ha ha.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/18 01:12 AM
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Female plausible deniability in action. But I guess it’s misogynistic to not trust them implicitly.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 12:55 AM
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Upvote a thousand times.
/r/MGTOW14/08/18 12:39 AM
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Exactly—she goes to church every time she’s overwhelmed with feelings of guilt. Then she feels better, and proceeds to not change anything about her behavior.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/18 12:23 AM
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Additionally I will not be a father to her child if I do not have parental authority. All the resource provisioning, but none of the authority—hell no. Assuming she didn’t drive the father away because she’s a psycho, I would probably be a better role model than her baby daddy anyway. Not that I’d take the bait here tho 🤣
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/18 12:21 AM
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“Executive assistant”=secretary. It’s an honest job, but let’s not dress it up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/08/18 12:16 AM
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Yeah a handsome doctor wouldn't cut it for her, even though that would be a win for your average woman. He's gotta be a handsome wealthy, at least somewhat famous, globetrotter, living an exciting life in the fast lane. In other words a celebrity, and preferably one wealthier and more established then her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 09:32 PM
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Yeah, if you are thinking of an LTR, you have to go for quality, and disqualify MANY women early on. Age cutoffs, assessing her on social media, estimating how much debt she's in, trying to assess her partner counts, should all be used, rather than having to get entangled with a woman, with whom you already may have a sexual relationship, and deal with her hamstering and shaming. As soon as you have reliable info on such important factors, you disqualify her early on, maybe even before going on …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 06:10 PM
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"Any man that is a virgin against his will (not heavily religious etc) at 25 is not a top teir male." Behold the utter moral depravity of this statement: in the eyes of this poster an unattractive non "top teir male" is worse than a woman who chooses to act like a slut, and ruin her ability to pair bond with the man she eventually marries. I will never accept this point of view, ever.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 05:57 PM
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Oh they will continue to blame us, you're right. I was thinking that "out of sight out of mind" might apply here, because at least you don't have to deal with the drama of a "romantic" relationship with these women. It doesn't stop you from having to deal with depressed, hostile women in other contexts, though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 05:52 PM
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Yeah, from her perspective what did he really do wrong? It’s not like sex implied a permanent commitment with all those other guys in the past, but now her current boyfriend has to act with more integrity than she previously did, because it aligns with her schedule? It’s also not exactly as if attractive, virginal women are a dime a dozen in this day and age. It shouldn’t be the case, but they are exceedingly rare. He was justified in jumping ship, IMO, and pursuing her. Sure, I’m cynical that t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 02:04 AM
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Eh she’s still worse—she’s the one that acted like a slut all those years in the past. At worst he pumped and dumped her, and he didn’t even really do that—they were in a relationship after all. He just decided to leave her for a better prospect, once he decided that he wasn’t cool with her past (and it’s likely that behaviors/perspectives emerged in the course of their short relationship that she’s not fully describing). As far as he’s concerned, he may have been unattractive back in those days…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 01:57 AM
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100% legit concerns, although I think she’s still a better bet than a supposedly reformed carousel rider. So many of these women don’t actually improve with age, they just burn out and read the writing on the wall. They realize that they have a fertility window, they start to realize that there are limits to the SMV of a man they can attract for a LTR, and that the sky isn’t literally the limit. They start to realize that having an extra paycheck—preferably greater than their’s, earns them a nic…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 01:19 AM
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Yeah, quite possibly, which is why it’s probably better for redpill aware men to simply have relatively low age cutoffs (not that that guarantees a low partner count either). Why entangle yourself with the hamstering and shaming language of women approaching the wall? Let them lay in their bed—why does that have to be our problem now?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 01:12 AM
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An 18 year old virgin is pretty much always a better bet than a former carousel rider. A 21 year old virgin may be better than her 18 year old counterpart, if with maturation she’s acquired character traits that would improve her odds of being a decent spouse, but that is by no means guaranteed. But particularly with promiscuous women, age often merely deepens their warped approach to living.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 01:06 AM
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Yeah, it sucks that we have to resort to studies on this, but they are helpful to strengthen a case that I think common sense advocates. Many men have a baseline level of concern/anxiety over something like this. We live in a culture that seeks to pathologize these concerns in men, dismissing these feelings as simply “insecurity.” I view such feelings as potentially an indicator that something is wrong: we feel physical pain when something is wrong, and this motivates us to rectify the situation…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 12:45 AM
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Even still, the average guys lack of “caring” doesn’t negate the probable damage that such behavior on her part will do to any potential future marriage. It’s only a lack sensitivity, and awareness of the gravity of these issues that causes many men to react in such a naieve fashion. This gives the lie to concerns about “slut shaming”—if anything we are, and have been for many years now desensitized to the damage caused by female promiscuity on society as a whole. We need more slut shaming, not …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 12:40 AM
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My suspicion is that you don’t view female promiscuity as being as big of a social vice as many of the rest of us do on this sub, and this may be accounting for the difference in perspectives. A highly promiscuous woman has like a 20% chance of remaining successfully married long term, and it seems pretty clear that this is the relationship that she was seeking. Whenever I read these cases, and am inclined to feel bad for the woman, I reflect on the likelihood that—should they marry—they will li…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 12:23 AM
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If this was a relationship inching towards marriage (and it seems pretty clear that that’s what she was gunning for) he would have every reason to be concerned that she has not completely reformed herself from her past. Plenty of desperate women will put up a good act regarding their personal demons, until they get something more like a binding arrangement from a man. And yes I regard her as desperate because she realizes that she is in the waning stage of her prime attractiveness years and clea…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/08/18 12:00 AM
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Yeah—ugh, you always have to be mindful of spin in these stories. The truth is frequently less savory than presented. A “lot” of partners can mean several LTRs in the mind of a girl who departed from a very conservative upbringing, or it can mean she was sleeping with multiple men in one night, and was the town bicycle. I have read accounts on RedpillWomen of women reporting losing interest in certain sexual acts after their “wild” years, and so their lucky husband gets to enjoy an older, more e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/18 11:51 PM
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I don’t understand why she can’t simply be HAAAAAAAPY for him, and more “supportive of her his needs?”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/18 11:33 PM
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Unfortunately, she’ll lock someone down with her physical appearance, and whorish choice of clothing. Securing a beta provider is hers to lose, honestly, so it will all depend on what epic levels of dysfunctionality lurk within.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/18 08:33 PM
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Women who were virgins at marriage appear to have lower divorce rates (don’t know about the men). That is a telling statistic. All these counterarguments, while having some validity for isolated individuals, are focusing on comparatively rare problems that do not justify in the least society-wide promiscuity prior to marriage.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/18 07:26 PM
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People that are committed to each other can arise at some compromise in the sexual area, like other areas within marriage. I don’t know why the sexual arena has to be this all-important area where one person is not willing to give to the other. There just has to be a mature expectation that some compromises may only be partial, and that no one leaves this world fulfilling their every last desire.
/r/RedPillWomen09/08/18 07:20 PM
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“It's fucking shameful that they prop up women like this and empower them by protecting them as if they don't have any agency and their actions don't affect anyone. They want women like this slug to be the norm rather than just a cohesive society of people that actually care about each other. Life makes me sick.” Take heart that there are a legion of men that feel the same way, and their numbers are growing. I’m willing to wager there’s a good number of men, who haven’t even become conversant wi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/18 05:58 PM
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The lack of empathy for the man astounds me. She knows her options for marriage are declining, and now that the rot is setting in, spins her desire to “settle down” like it’s a positive for the man. A woman’s choice to be with a man only has value when she could have exercised her options to whore around (i.e. she is attractive and in her prime). Just like women shit-test men to check for alpha status, men should mercilessly shit test these immediately pre and post Wall women for their desperati…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/18 05:42 PM
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I’ve seen enough of these posts on reddit, and it irritates every time: “I’m dating/married, etc. to ‘the most wonderful man in the world, sweet, caring, attentive to my needs, and madly in love with me,” right before she gives him the shiv. I can think of no better way a woman can neutralize any impulse on my part to be sympathetic to her than opening up with that garbage. If he’s that wonderful then STFU, count your blessings, and accept the imperfections, or at least do work from YOUR END to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/18 05:29 PM
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Honestly, she’d probably cuck him, and claim it’s all part of their oh so wonderful femdom relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/18 05:00 PM
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The corollary of this is never get a woman unintentionally knocked up EVER. I know it’s hard to have compassion on children you don’t have yet but single moms are cancer as we all know, and there is next to zero chance some random thot won’t run interference on you trying to exert a good influence on any children you have with her.
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 02:37 PM
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Effing brutal
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 02:20 PM
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There’s a psychiatric diagnosis called “factitious disorder,” where a person will fake being sick, often taking up hospital beds (that could go to much sicker people), and haranging their doctors, because they have a “pathologic need to assume the sick role” (attention). Guess which gender is overwhelmingly predominant?🤔
/r/MGTOW08/08/18 02:16 PM
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Watch how often women will follow an admission of selfishness with an “lol” on these types of posts.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/18 11:50 AM
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A lot of those “rejections,” had nothing to do with you, and more with their lack of willingness to engage with a stranger with a gimmick. Especially women are inclined towards being fearful and suspicious. They are vulnerable and weak, and know it, and this causes them to put their guard up unnecessarily at times. It’s like when a door to door saleman comes to me periodically, or someone with a petition. I usually am not in the mood to engage them with some conversation about random nonsense, e…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/18 04:08 AM
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Yeah he’s sure taking a flame thrower to her allright. I appreciate a good extended roast here every now and then. You have to learn to slow down, chew your food, and savor breaking down these thots from time to time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/18 01:35 AM
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Those are all good thoughts. As a person who has to focus on cutting, I can say that I never just happen to eat my first meal at 5 pm. For me an intermittent fast will usually take me to 1 pm or so (although I have fasted for longer). But it is always a conscious decision, and it's easy for me to slip into overeating if I am not consciously tracking intake/being wary during social situations that involve food.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/18 04:46 PM
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"One thing women often say when they get involved with Bad Men is they didn't know the men they were involved with were Bad Men until it was too late. She thought he was a Good Man, until all of a sudden he turned Bad. It isn't true. All the signs that a man is a Bad Man are there. Most of the time, women choose not to see them, or gloss over them, or ignore them, or believe they can fix them." I find it ironic that many women seem confident in their ability to judge a man as unworthy based on a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/18 04:15 PM
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Yeah, in the end I'm pretty cynical, and suspect most people in this situation will sabotage their marriages. A person has to know themselves very, very well to decide what they can handle, and the mantra of "never settle" that people almost universally hear from all circles does not help. Though men and women have to deal with this reality to one degree or another, I am also of the impression that most women meet their last best chance of the whole package: faithful (reasonably) attractive, lif…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/18 03:13 PM
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Saw this video on the following conservative site: https://www.dailywire.com/news/34134/allie-stuckey-make-men-masculine-again-jacob-airey Provided the link in case anyone wants to provide comments on that site deconstructing this video as we have done here. Conservatism needs a redpilled upgrade, and engage in some hard conversations about gynocentrism, if the goal of stable family formation is to become a realistic ideal for most members of society. I understand that there is a strategic decis…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/18 02:35 PM
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I’m black, but I’m not even going to pretend I understood half of what those people were saying in the comments section. Slang sure has changed a lot since the 90s!
/r/MGTOW07/08/18 03:06 AM
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Thanks so much! I appreciate that you’ve set up this sub, and am flattered that you have given some of my comments such reflection.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/18 01:35 AM
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100% agreed. I think the main challenge for many people is that there are social and cultural forces at play that create the expectation that something is objectively wrong with the marriage if your spouse isn’t the biggest drug rush you’ve ever experienced. I think it’s more important to clarify if the person in question will make a “good” spouse on a character/intellecual/emotional and physical attraction level rather than if they are “perfect,” since “perfect” is typically the enemy of the “g…
/r/RedPillWomen07/08/18 12:53 AM
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I hear your concerns—but in my view the main risk is in how invested with the infatuation narrative a given woman is. If the woman in question claims to love the man, he has admirable qualities, they are in alignment on life perspectives, and she has sex with him on the regular (demonstrating that the physical appeal is there), I don’t see what else there is to say? I also don’t think marriages lasting 50+ years are fueled by lifelong infatuation. I have never been infatuated with a woman that c…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/18 11:08 PM
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Unfortunately you (like most women) are in a social milieu where the dating timeline is quite reckless. In a few short years you will be 30, and many single women internally start to panic for good reason. Many of us are used to a dating timeline that consists of LTRs that go on for YEARS before resulting in marriage, with some combination of frivolous short term hookups thrown into the mix, depending on how promiscuous the person is in question. Suddenly a woman at 30 expects a man who has been…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/18 10:51 PM
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I have a hard time believing feelings of infatuation last a lifetime, even when they were present at the beginning of the relationship. Likewise, I don’t think that they are necessary as long as the other elements are in place (some of the things you mentioned like compatible life goals, perspectives on life). I think there are 2 major caveats, however: (1) You have to find that person attractive. I don’t think necessarily the most attractive person in the world, but unequivocally attractive. Th…
/r/RedPillWomen06/08/18 10:12 PM
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The contents of this video don’t bother me regarding attempting to get men interested in marriage again. It’s the utter absence of a corresponding effort to encourage women to keep up their end of the bargain, resulting in a lopsided arrangement=gynocentrism that bothers me. Though it puts forth values connected in some way to biblical morals, it glosses over the fact that in biblical times men had the upper hand in divorce proceedings (they could issue a bill of divorce, not women), they could …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/18 09:33 PM
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Not aware of any redpilled subs quite like this. There’s a reddit “roastme” sub that can occasionally get amusing like this one when a female sets herself up to be roased.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/18 04:37 PM
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Great analogy—funny how you can apply economic concepts to the sexual marketplace. These thots on the internet are basically setting up a lottery system and preying on the susceptibilities of thirsty men to financially capitalize on the lottery. If you are going to date women at all you have to go cheap or not at all. That’s just the way it is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/18 02:44 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA—“her face looks retarded”! I love the spitballing on this sub man!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/18 02:34 PM
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What a betrayal. That’s what he gets for sharing his resources and provisioning with her. One of the terrible ironies of life that a woman will let herself go for a man that actually provides value, but will get in shape/lose weight for men who only provide potential value/the promise of a ring. Ugh.
/r/MGTOW06/08/18 12:08 PM
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Yup, willing to bet this is it. Love how she says “well I guess I’m better off without them” when she considers this possibility. As if having her PhD and 6 languages makes her any less lonely at the end of the day. She’s not fooling anybody. I remember a while ago reading on TRP, or some other sub, where this dude was dating a doctor, who was clearly impressed by her academic credentials. One day they were in a parking lot, and they saw a couple far off in the distance about to get into a car. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/18 01:30 AM
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Hey my dudes: she’s “not ‘easy’ in any sense of the word.” Remember when you took what women said at face value, and believed them? I miss those days.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/08/18 01:17 AM
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Agreed. You can’t advertise that you are high maintenance in the extreme, without a hint of self-reflection or irony, and expect us to believe that you are somehow selfless in the extreme as well. It’s one or the other.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/18 11:09 PM
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A woman making 60-80K a year should be happy with a man making 40K, assuming she intends to stay employed. Given the amount of student loan debt many of these women are in anyway, they'd better not expect some random man to shoulder their financial burden, and therefore should not have the luxury of falling back on the "I'm seeking a provider in case I decide to have kids" excuse. Taking out those loans should be tantamount to saying you are also committed to paying them off, so being a permanen…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/18 05:20 PM
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Yeah in my place of employment, I have to say that most women over 40, and more or less all women over 50 are invisible to me from a physical attraction standpoint. Even a majority of 30 plus year olds look pretty junky to me. I know that photo is certainly better than she actually looks, sans makeup, but even having a normal BMI is an anomaly for women in this generation. I interact with a lot of people at work, and certainly have encountered outlying hot 40, and rarely, 50 year olds. Genetics …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/18 05:05 PM
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Women are more prone to anxiety, depression, and in general are higher on the trait of "negative emotion" (quoting J. Peterson) than men. It makes sense to me that, particularly as they age into their 30s and beyond, their anxieties and insecurities start to become personal demons that haunt them more so than men. If you are dealing with a population of people that are more likely to look at the world with a glass half full perspective, and are physically weaker (hence more vulnerable) it seems …
/r/MGTOW03/08/18 09:26 PM
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If I understand correctly, you are not particularly a fan of his genre of music. If he is a professional musician he likely relates to this music, however, on a deep, personal level, and may feel like this is one area that you don't really sync with him emotionally. Bringing you out to his concerts simply because that's what you do with your girlfriend may feel like he's allowing a personal experience to be hijacked by the formalities of dating, when he knows you otherwise wouldn't attend (if yo…
/r/RedPillWomen03/08/18 05:44 PM
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Crazy how these broads talk—without a hint of irony—about just wanting to find a nice, stable, loving, responsible guy, only after they have put themselves through the meat grinder. Because that desire is totally coming from a place of maturity and inner self-searching right? No desperation whatsoever!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/18 11:53 PM
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Couldn’t agree more—just like the price of sex has been cheapened for women in modern times (more for the Chads than your average men) the price of male attention and provisioning has been cheapened: (1) Social media cheapens the value of male attention because women can attention whore much more effectively than in the past. (2) A promiscuous culture, particular with apps like Tinder cheapens male attention, since a woman can be hit on by hundreds of thirsty men a month (3) A culture that promo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/18 04:39 AM
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Re: birthrates. It’s not that I think circumcision directly impacts upon birthrates. What I’m saying is that some of the religious ideologies that practice circumcision have higher birthrates, and for them the practice of circumcision is part of the package, even if the overall ideology, approach to female modesty, is likely to play a more dominant role in their large family sizes, as well as checks against female excesses. I don’t favor compelling them to discontinue the practice, as this is li…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/18 03:49 AM
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Men have enough difficulties mastering their sexual urges even while circumcised, which is one of the chief reasons why gynocentric society has flourished in my opinion: the tendency to pedestalize pussy, and therebye defer excessively to women. I don’t see the magnification of this challenge by promoting men remaining uncircumcised as resulting in a net value to society, or men for that matter. There’s more to life than more intense orgasms, and there are few things in my opinion, more liberati…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/18 02:43 AM
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“Much of the adversity towards this subreddit is based on the idea that it is too critical towards women.” A fundamental truism that men have to burn into their minds is that we have a default setting to relate to women with greater kindness and magnanimity than most women deserve—particularly if she is found to be attractive on any level. It’s a part of our default mental firmware to give and sacrifice to young, fertile, and attractive women, the same way that women are wired to view a given ma…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/18 01:28 AM
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Really appreciate what you guys are doing here. While I haven’t suffered nearly as much as many men who have been redpilled, even observing the entitled behavior of women, seeing how society gives women a free pass on all sorts of horrible behavior, and seeing the utter lack of empathy for otherwise decent men periodically fills me with rage. I view this as another necessary facet in the mounting of a defense (and hopefully a clandestine offense) in what is essentially an idealogical war that ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/18 11:44 PM
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Good luck brother. I'm sorry this happened to you, but am glad that you did not have children with this piece of trash, and that at your age you have the potential to live life and grow on your terms. It wouldn't surprise me if she contacts you later on with a sob story (depending on whether she can sucker another guy into marrying her or not). Don't take the bait. She had her chance.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 08:37 PM
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"... after you've passed muster in terms of your money, car, looks, social status and job title." Fixed that for her.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 08:22 PM
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Hilarious. I can only explain this by assuming she's projecting her own insecurities onto men.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 08:20 PM
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Even a non-pussy pedestalizing man, who is simply young, and has generally interacted with nice people in his life, would fall for this, because he is not expecting your average woman to be so black hearted. I wish young men could be redpilled en mass (hopefully it's starting with all the internet info out there) to cut these thots off at the knees at earlier and earlier ages.
/r/MGTOW01/08/18 08:14 PM
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Didn't you know women are outpacing men in college, and therefore must be intellectually superior to men? I know this because Huffpost says it periodically, and my barrista at Starbucks agrees.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/18 05:02 PM
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That's the inherent contradiction in a lot of these "big is beautiful" types. They'll shame you for finding conventionally attractive women more attractive than obese women, but will liberally apply makeup to approach that conventional standard. It's just that keeping your weight down requires ongoing discipline, unlike slathering on makeup for a couple of hours, so they need to propagandize how fat is beautiful, and shame you, because ultimately that requires less effort. That would be bad enou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/18 05:00 PM
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The redpill truth is that for everyone, but women more so than men, there is a "Last Best Chance" of a reasonably attractive, stable, loving, considerate, marriage partner that approaches them in their life. The vast majority of women encounter this man in their 20s, and he is almost never the most superficially attractive man, but for a woman of even reasonable attractiveness this almost always involves the option of dating a reasonably attractive, responsible, empathic man. Not Mr. Perfect, bu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/18 04:51 PM
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I definitely grant that you can see an upper 30s, or even 40 year old woman that is more attractive than "some" women in their 20s. But these are outliers--women who were typically extremely hot in their prime, take care of themselves, and in the case of hollywood actresses also get plastic surgery, which occasionally improves an attractive woman's appearance. But this is all talking about extreme outliers. Even with many of these outliers: you can't truly judge a woman's attractiveness until yo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/18 04:36 PM
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Yeah, even if that's true none of us really care about that, because they're ugly. I'd be more empathic, if a significant proportion of these women weren't the cause of their singledom at these ages.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/18 04:27 PM
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ZFG about men ghosting women when women can divorce rape men with the sanctioning of the State. Not even in the same league.
/r/MGTOW31/07/18 09:24 PM
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If he travels to the right places on reddit he would also get shamed for somehow feeling “entitled” to sex—i.e. be accused of being a borderline rapist.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/07/18 03:36 PM
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Yet another reason not to date a 30 year old. In general this is a desperate population of women, and if you look at least decent on paper (i.e. have a good job, and are not a social outcast) it’s hard to be sure if their interest in you is due to desperation and a desire for beta bucks, or rooted in legitimate attraction. I understand the argument against marriage, and realize it makes sense for many guys, but if you are even considering it, it has to be with a woman who, among other things, is…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/18 11:24 PM
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This is precisely why men should work on being more empathic with each other--it's easier for a man to work on building himself up if he at least has some bros who understand his situation, and want what's best for him. That doesn't have to come at the expense of giving constructive criticism when warranted--women tend to do the kumbaya moments, where everyone is so sympathetic with each other to the point of denying reality (telling your obese female friend that she has a really "pretty face" w…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/18 08:05 PM
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I know. I’m actually kind of grateful in a way these broads lack self awareness to such a degree that they don’t realize how terrible they sound. Sometimes I think it’s better to simply ghost on them without comment on why, to keep them in the dark, so they never learn to more effectively put on a false front and snag some unsuspecting dude.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/07/18 06:46 PM
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Yes, this needs to be reused across forums
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/07/18 06:40 PM
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Social proof in action. Sometimes the sole difference between whether you are an untouchable loser vs. a desireable man in the eyes of some woman is whether or not you have another woman in your life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/07/18 06:36 PM
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I feel bad for the children, as these stupid women by being irresponsible whores, have brought them up in a state of misery and dysfunctionality. But apart from it being in a man's best interest to avoid single mothers, I feel that men should withdraw from them, because the gynocentric state already caters to them so much. Although I know men will come in and out of their lives, it would be ideal for men to just avoid them altogether. The children should grow up and know what their mother did, a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/18 08:29 PM
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But let's all strike that from our vocabulary because it upsets a woman's feelings. Sometimes I feel like our perception of reality is being carved out of existence, piece by piece, by censoring forms of speech that describe reality for what it is. You censor speech en masse, and you start to censor thought--at least for a decent chunk of people who are not inclined to be thoughtful at baseline.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/18 07:52 PM
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"> Uh huh. Took you several paragraphs, but you finally got to it. There it is right there." A lot of times it pays to focus on what a person says towards the end, when citing you a list of reasons or demands, as what their true concern or motive is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/18 07:49 PM
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"All that being said, I feel like maybe you are intimidated by me. Am I crazy? ... These are the things that I can’t do myself and that I need you to help me with ... You to hug and kiss me when I walk through the door and ask me how my day was" If this was even a modestly attractive woman in her prime, without any kids, she would not request that a given man hug and kiss her if she thought he was "intimidated" by her. She would write him off as a loser and keep chasing Chad. It's only when she …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/18 07:39 PM
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Yeah I had mixed feelings about this. She definitely comes across as more cerebral, and open to new ideas than your average person, and certainly your average woman. On the other hand many of these high academic achieving women can become arrogant and insufferable pretty damn quickly, and I’d like to be a fly on the wall observing her social interactions with men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/07/18 03:47 PM
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A male sex robot can’t satisfy a woman’s hypergamous urges. The best she will get is the looks and physical functionality, if rendered well enough, but proportionally they require that a man have a certain place in the male hierarchy, jerkboy charm, and the ability to function as a protector and provider. A man will mainly require that the doll look good enough to satisfy his sensibilities, feel realistic, and move the right way to already be a serious competitor if the women around him are terr…
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 11:41 PM
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I think the majority of these internet shit testers would fade into oblivion if you saw the reality was that most of these chicks are obese, post-Wall or unattractive. MGTOW or not, I think most men naturally tend to give less of a crap about what unattractive women have to say.
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 10:36 PM
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Notice who has the downvotes and who has the upvotes here, yet who instigated this exchange. The solipsism is real.
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 10:29 PM
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Looking at the dating profiles presented in this subreddit, it seems like a lot of single mothers just go on the offensive—they try to shame men into thinking their aversion to single mothers is reflective of an inadequacy in themselves. So blame shifting appears to be the preferred strategy rather than positively trying to rationalize to others why they are a catch. I’m sure if pressed the best they would come up with is that being a mother demonstrates that they are somehow more responsible th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/18 05:56 PM
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Good point, your supposedly a bigot, or at least shallow, if you aren't attracted to men who think they're women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/18 04:04 PM
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That's why I think it's important for RP aware men to help fill that gap for other men--but in an authentically masculine way, not co-opting the modes of communication women use necessarily in their feel good forums. I would extend this towards mentoring and hiring decent men, in recognition of the empathy gap that men and women face.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/18 03:58 PM
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Yeah, while submitting to such public bloodletting is tiresome, I'm glad he was able to display and confirm what men in the manosphere and redpill sites have been observing. Seeing the shaming tactics, and lack of empathy on open display for something so straightforward is telling--including from the men. How many forums like this have you seen men and women relating empathetically towards women who are rejected for being unappealing NOW (which is far more justifiable), and not based on behavior…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/18 03:53 PM
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Good call: that's the current trend in feminist retardation. Thanks for the reminder.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/18 03:49 PM
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Girls judge us constantly, even on our past, don't forget that, and don't forget to judge them constantly. Exactly, and never submit to the propaganda that doing so constitutes "misogyny." Particularly if you are finding her character wanting, or simply don't find her attractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/18 03:43 PM
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Don't worry she's got it all figured out, until she hits 40-50 and is faced with the reality of how much of a joke her life has been, and how it will never get any better. If she's smart (she isn't) she'll realize it sooner, but only rarely openly admit it to the few social acquaintances that pass for friends.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/07/18 03:40 PM
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I agree: while I would always advise a guy against demonstrating evidence that he was or is “low value” this is only in recognition of how pychotic so many women are. While some people can carry dyfunctionality from early adolescence into adult life, children are by definition immature and it’s stupid to judge a person on something like this unless you see evidence of socially maladaptive behaviors carrying forward into adulthood—y’know like engaging in irresponsible promiscuous sex with Chads, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/18 11:32 PM
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I'd go further. To make matters worse, just as her value is declining, what she's asking for isn't the same as what she wanted in her 20s, it's more. She's asking for commitment. Comparing a "20s woman looking to have fun vs. a 30s woman looking to commit is a double whammy. You're less attractive and you're asking for something more valuable." Not to mention that a fair number of these women will drop off the frequency of sex for the men they actually marry, compared to what they were willing t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/18 04:20 PM
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At the end of the day this is the best method, although I think it's of fundamental importance to educate as many men as possible on the intersexual dynamics at play here, so the online forums are important, including sometimes shattering the pretty lies of women. Women are masters of crafting false narratives. All these broads make it sound like they were just doing wholesome Ozzie and Harriet style dating throughout their 20s, but sadly didn't find Mr. Right until they were 36. They never ment…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/18 04:17 PM
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She gives off the impression that she's only had sex once in her life, and was kind of sorta raped, and apparently had to do webcaming because there were literally no other types of jobs out there. So with that out of the way she feels like (a) any man worth his salt should accept her before she gets her act together (she can't) (b) but he'll still have to jump through immense hoops to have access to her physically--she's gotta know him well before she gives out her number, but how do you get to…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/18 03:51 PM
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The lack of empathy was appalling. The harsh nature of many of the redpilled sites are that way precisely because of this phenomenon of complete and utter lack of empathy for otherwise normal men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/18 04:45 PM
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We live in a society that involves women (and the simps that love them) constantly using the #notall excuse. I wouldn’t take this guys anecdote that seriously either if it didn’t gel with the lived experience of massive numbers of men that women will “next” you for bullshit reasons. But we’re expected to not care if she’s obese, is emotionally unstable, or had a train of guys run through her in her prime.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/07/18 04:42 PM
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Looked around her blog posts. She gives advice to an incel, containing the following: “Often for women when they get to know a man his personality becomes much more important than his looks. Unfortunately that is less the case the other way around & as I get older I am becoming more resentful of how important looks are to men. But anyway.” The thought of a femdom porn actress suffering due to her declining SMV is delicious indeed. Delicious indeed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/18 04:05 AM
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Ha ha I thought the same thing! Please let this man have an excuse!
/r/MGTOW06/07/18 09:08 PM
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Totally legit question to ask—to hell with all these women, and the white knights, going on about how rude it is. If she doesn’t post representative photos she is being deliberately deceptive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/18 05:06 AM
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That’s true—the division of labor is fair, (no: truthfully favors the woman—especially if we are only dealing with one or two kids, and the husband makes enough for the two of them for the rest of their lives). The main challenges of childrearing get considerably easier when the kids are in school. By that point you are mainly caring for them after hours, so the stay at home moms go into partial retirement decades before a working man goes into retirement. Plenty of fathers also assume some care…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/18 06:08 PM
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“Is honest with me all the time ...” “Thinks I am the best person they’ve ever met ...” Unless she expects her future partner to be psychotic she’s just excluded every man on the planet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/07/18 05:38 PM
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Also if she ends up being a stay at home mom, pushing out the standard 1.8 kids, her full time parenting responsibilities come to an end within 10 years, before she slides into an early partial retirement. Even if she chooses to go back to the workforce—if the husband’s salary is sufficient this is an optional, as opposed to obligatory, choice she is making. Her husband feels duty bound to work, which constitutes a world of difference compared to what she would be doing at that hypothetical time…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/18 01:36 PM
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Love how this broad thinks that working to support a family is somehow stress free, or that coming home after a day’s work to see the children only consists of playing with them, and having fun with them. Dads never assume any caregiving roles after work, or deal with the “emotional labor” (whatever the fuck that really means) of whiny, bitchy wives. Never, ever, ever happens /s. This man is better off without her, though, because she will resent any evidence that he is not as miserable as she i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/07/18 05:13 AM
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Feel sorry for her son, but if I’m enough of a catch to be your son’s surrogate father, and provider, I’m enough of a catch to do better than a single mom. She’s entitled to her standards, and so am I. But as we all know: my “parental authority” will likely never be fully respected, by her or the boy—especially as he ages and matures. So my natural role as a male role model in the household (which entails a certain measure of respect and authority, not just fun and games) is undermined, but I’m …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/07/18 02:08 PM
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I think the redpill truth for a lot of these women is that they are not as attractive as they would like to think they are. It’s just that men are more willing to sexually engage with a marginally attractive woman than the other way around so these women only find out the truth when they start actually pushing for a long term or permanent committment. Additionally, you’re average woman tends to have obnoxious elements to their personality—neurotocism, pettiness, getting bitchy at least around th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/18 10:28 PM
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Thanks for posting this—the drop of sympathy I had for her is now dried up. Hope she gets pumped and dumped repeatedly until she settles into decades long solitude.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/18 12:00 PM
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No kidding--we never get to hear his take on the divorce, yet here she is trying to garner sympathy on reddit for being pumped and dumped. Looking at her posting history she’s obsessed with losing every last pound (gotta stay fit for that elusive alpha provider—wonder how fit she stayed for her ex?) and had a shitty relationship with her father, which I’m sure she didn’t bring over into her marriage /s. Don’t know anything about her husband, but I do know he didn’t pump and dump her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/18 11:54 AM
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You previously got this advice from your prior post on this: “Disrespectful attention whore BS in public? Demote to plate and GAME other Girls. She is not worthy of LTR status. Don't make a scene just domote withdraw attention and spin some plates.” I think it’s reasonable. Agree and amplify in the meantime. If you are good at ridiculing people, you can make fun of her back, but this is mainly successful if you can get other people to laugh at her with you. I’ve been married over 10 years—I don’…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 01:11 AM
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Yeah it has to be that the bigger the entitlement, the bigger the screeching and letdown when it all comes crashing down around you. It will be really interesting to see if we can see indicators that the post-wall millenial crowd are getting hit harder with this than their generation X, or baby boomer equivalents.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 05:36 PM
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Yeah, for a while I’ve wondered if there isn’t a need to tighten up these sort of conversations by hammering home the existence of female privilege in ways that are concise but rhetorically powerful. A lot of this male privilige crap is marxist nonsense, and it needs to be short-circuited, perhaps partly by employing their own methods against them throughout the internet. My dream would be for some redpilled multimillionaire or billionaire to fund activism for male causes, or causes that undermi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 04:50 PM
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Yeah I agree—while I think it’s great that you are seeing redpill concepts critiquing women thrown around on random internet sites, it’s better to minimize using the vocab, and just focus on the brutal logic involved, and pointing out female behavior for all to see, when the examples are too obvious to hide.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 04:46 PM
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Exactly—let me give her half my wealth for occasional hugs, and increasingly mediocre sex.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 04:41 PM
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That’s why it’s so hard to take any complaints seriously from them. When stupid nonsense is a crisis, I’m going to be too disillusioned to listen to them when there is a legit crisis.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 04:40 PM
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Gotta admit I’m amused by the surprise ending with this. I don’t usually expect a “polyamorous” relationship to work out well for the guy: she starts racking up a partner count, and he gets scraps. Instead this guy becomes all alpha and dominant in bed, smacking her around, smashing his side hoes, and then up and ghosts on her for a presumably more attractive woman. It’s like a come from behind victory.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 04:40 AM
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“Ohh shit! Now that she actually wants dick, just not his dick, it is no longer worth it to support her financially. No doubt, there was a lot of emotional baggage there too, as she she strung him along her little games in order to feel better about sleeping around town.” Observe that comment below, that advocates that she get her “share” of his 401K. Like, for what? If she had children with him, and insistedon initiating a poly relationship I would still say she deserves nothing, but as a child…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 03:07 AM
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Ha ha ha—how is it that this comment is getting upvotes, while OP is getting downvoted to oblivion!? Look, anger phase or not the readers of this sub need to be mindful of this. I mean fuck: anger phase is worse than getting HIV?! Gottamn get some perspective fellas!
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 02:49 AM
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The woman, no doubt about it. She’s a criminal (ZFG if that’s actually the law), and is merely a “victim” of vigilante justice.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 02:09 AM
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Protect yourself, and protect YOUR UNBORN CHILDREN. Single mothers are a cancer on society, and will raise future sluts and incompetent men. Do not give your children to a woman that you cannot successfully raise a family with, because she’s too dysfunctional, selfish, or was just some random piece of tail you smashed but could never tolerate living with.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/18 02:07 AM
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If you go to any of those other subs, or websites, don’t complain about it, just ridicule, ridicule, ridicule. Ridicule this lady for being a complete trainwreck (the more creative the shiv the better), as well as the losers who go anywhere near her. Mockery is your friend.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/18 01:05 AM
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Your mom is pushing you according to the natural female timeline. It's different when you are a man. That's one area where you have an advantage and you should unapologetically play it to the hilt. But I agree with the above--your 30s as a man are mainly good if you are in shape, and are on solid financial footing, and have an otherwise fulfilling, interest life. These are things you have a great deal of control over.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/18 03:53 PM
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I think the tendency for women in hardcore religious communities to fear spinsterdom hits them at a younger age. I used to be sympathetic, but after pondering the damage done by this gynocentric society, I could now care less. Better that a woman fret about not being marriagable while she is still at her most attractive, than accumulate a large number of sexual experiences as a single woman that damage her personality and compromises a future marriage with some unsuspecting guy. Better she freak…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/18 08:32 PM
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Exactly—equality for thee but not for me. Feminists focus on the external trappings of power that men have historically possessed—economic, and political, while glossing over the soft social power that women have always had, even in pre-modern times: the ability to more readily garner sympathy and protection, not to mention the myriad of undeserved kindnesses a young, attractive woman can get from men merely for being attractive. They construct this false narrative of historic female oppression …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/18 08:00 PM
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Yeah no kidding. While I realize there are random stalker dudes out there, try going back to occasionally chatting it up with a woman, on a purely platonic basis, after expressing your interest in her and getting turned down by her. Watch how fast you’ll be labelled a creeper.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/18 05:22 PM
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It could've been worse afterall. I mean the guy could still periodically call her up to complain about the hotter woman he's sleeping with, and act all surprised when she doesn't give him the needed "emotional support," because hey, I thought we were just friends and all?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/18 05:10 PM
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hisbodyhischoice
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/18 05:08 PM
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I’m glad so many are honest in their profiles, however—makes them easier to avoid.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/18 03:38 PM
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That’s the wickedness here—it’s not simply the extortion of money (which is terrible), it’s the fact that she is setting in motion something that will have ripple effects across generations. The odds of her daughter growing up to be somebody worth marrying were already low in our current culture, but as the daughter of a selfish, materialistic, vindictive single mother forget it. Won’t necessarily stop the daughter, however, from marrying, or having a child out of wedlock, and ruining future liv…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/18 03:12 PM
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Exactly—can you imagine entrusting this person to care for, and partner with you, in raising your children? Imparting values to them, when she can’t speak 2 sentences without logically contradicting herself?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/18 02:57 AM
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I don’t think feminism is strong enough to defeat Chareidi Judaism—they are quite ZFG about feminism, and will outbreed the secular over the next few generations. Feminism inevitably leads to sterility. The patriarchal religious systems that make the babies will win in the long run, in my opinion.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/18 03:15 AM
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I think these “traditional” vs. “nontraditional” society discussions can start to devolve into excessive binary thinking—there is variability amongst faith groups with regards to their success rates at achieving quality of life for their members, as well as amongst the various secular cultures. https://news.gallup.com/poll/152732/religious-higher-wellbeing-across-faiths.aspx I don’t think that our current (fairly) secular society is the most optimal for maximizing well-being amongst its members.…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/18 01:11 AM
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Yeah what you are describing is meeting a woman who is enough of a unicorn to at first blush seem workable—i.e. sufficiently attractive, low partner count, unusually thoughtful, yet because there are no unicorns she runs the risk of not taking seriously the courting of a genuinely decent man—particularly if the man in question isn’t in the upper echelon of looks. Of course I’m not talking about the 30 year old equivalent female, who might be ready to “settle” now, and frivorce you later on. I’m …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 11:49 PM
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Nicely put
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 11:28 PM
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It tends to be ignored by society at large that traditional Judaism (orthodox) is a religion that one can convert into. The fact that a person inherits their Jewish identify via the mother tends to result in people mischaracterizing Jews as belonging to a particular race. Regarding the modern orthodox, my sense is that the groups “right” of the modern orthodox are doing better in this regard, partly because their values are less influenced by surrounding society, but in any group—even conservati…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/18 10:25 PM
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“Once she gets out of the pointless masters program she is in, is 150k+ in lifelong debt, no actual skills, no ability to be a subservient wife, and barely even good for a wet cunt, she'll be out of the feminist mantra, looking for guys to give her another chance.” This is something that is only sporadically discussed on redpill sites, but needs to be emphasized more. Perhaps because the main RP sub has a PUA orientation, with an emphasis on short term sexual relationships, the issue of lifelong…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 08:51 PM
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Either her sexual or relationship market value is significantly lower than she thinks, or she’s too picky. I’m not sure there is a viable reason beyond these.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 08:10 PM
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Interesting parallel, but I think you’re right. It’s an extension of the “women are gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of committment” adage.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 04:55 PM
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“But for whatever reason, men won’t commit. Now, I don’t mind being rejected, but I’m rarely rejected either.” If they aren’t committing to you, you are being rejected. Rejection isn’t just for incels baby—you’re just getting rejected on the back end of the deal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 04:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VygKQV-hEpY
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 01:03 PM
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I'm happy to hear you stood up for yourself. To hell with her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/06/18 11:04 AM
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Google “chasing the dragon and an ear for men” for a youtube video describing how addiction to romantic love can seriously undermine a man. While I don’t mean to suggest that the pair bonding instinct is in any way abnormal, if I recall the video does a good job of outlining how social/makeup/fashion conventions employed by women manipulate the sensibilities of men over an above what is natural or ultimately desirable for the man—much like what McDonald’s does for food. Men in their stupidity ha…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/18 07:16 PM
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Yeah, but she also has "high morals," while dressing like a call girl, so it all makes sense in some nonsensical way 🤔
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/18 07:04 PM
8

This should be on the back of Scientific American
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/18 12:30 PM
3

I feel this needs to be emphasized more frequently than “lift”—do not get a woman accidentally pregnant, ever, ever, ever. Even if you do so intentionally you are opening yourself up to risk, but it’s up to you to decide if you vetted her appropriately up until then, knowing there are no guarantees. And I agree: for women there can be a major change in personality that develops with pregnancy hormones. Men should have greater legal authority in relationships—I’m convinced families would stay tog…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/18 11:53 AM
1

Parkour, weight lifting, martial arts. But really any passion that they may have that involves them having to strive, dealing with failure and frustration, and continuing—keeping in mind that a strong and fit body is fundamental, regardless of what other additional pursuits they have. As a father you have to strike the balance between regularly encouraging them to strive for excellence—as that is in their best interest, and will ultimately increase their odds of happiness, while showing them tha…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/18 11:44 AM
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As long as women are riding the carousel and divorce raping men, hell—even displacing them from jobs, and then crapping on men who don’t earn as much as them—I reserve the right to not lift a finger for them. I’ll call the cops at a good distance, but I will not take the bullet for a worthless whore. Self indentification as a feminist is unnecessary in a society where this behavior amongst women is widespread—feminism is the default.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/18 06:12 PM
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It's interesting because that comment indicates that she thinks she was on the level of the guys she was sleeping with. It doesn’t occur to her that some of them were slumming it or dumpster diving a little bit because men get horny and are willing to sleep with women below them in SMV all the time. Another thing is that I wonder if men actually have an 80:20 rule of their own, but we don’t usually notice it in the dating milleu that centers around short term hookups, as it likely applies toward…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/06/18 01:47 AM
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Upvoted for creativity and savagery!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/18 06:32 PM
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You are probably right, but at age 32 father time is knocking. A cute woman can only be a bitch for so long before no one (of worth) is willing to buy what she is selling. Most attractive men who are also positioned to be good providers have been snagged by now. She'll either have to date younger upper betas who don't quite realize their value and think they are getting a good deal marrying a formerly cute woman poised to hit the wall any day now, date older divorcees, or men closer to her age, …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/18 06:25 PM
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You may have a high libido, but I think you are basically describing the “Coolidge effect”—men’s libido has a tendency to respond to a variety of partners. Monogomy, even with an attractive woman, can temper those instincts—but that all varies with the man, attractiveness of the woman (including feelings of oneitis), phase of the relationship, etc.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/18 03:37 PM
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Hopefully--verbal bloodletting, ghosting on worthless women, men getting better at deconstructing female doublespeak in real life and in online dating profiles, and just open ridicule and disregard of gynocentric society are all necessary. We didn't create this, and I see zero evidence of your average woman engaging in any self-reflection/regulation of behavior on these issues.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/18 09:21 PM
8

All these un-extraordinary women making brash demands of men, all the while issuing you nothing but an IOU that when you've jumped through enough hoops your mind will somehow be blown by how awesome they are. I'll pass, thanks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/18 09:12 PM
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Yup, remember this post whenever you are inclined to feel sorry for these whores. Wouldn’t it be great to just fire up tinder, y’know when you’re feeling down about your dating life, and select a random beautiful woman to have 5 hours of sex with? Even if you are a good looking man, it’s generally harder than that. Sympathy for them doesn’t work anyway—she’s damaged goods. If you want to know why ancient societies viewed a woman’s worth as being devalued when engaging in premarital sex, look no …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/18 02:27 PM
1

It looks like a senior photo she took shortly before flunking out of accounting.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/18 01:30 AM
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No kidding—if she can’t keep it together for a lousy dating profile, what are the odds of her controlling her behavior when real life problems occur within the context of a relationship with her?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/18 12:05 PM
2

My finding you gross is not a choice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/18 03:40 AM
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LOL on that guy that ditched her on the date tho ...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/18 09:22 PM
8

Yeah somehow failed to miss that. So consensual sex with a man she finds unattractive is now rape? Why should I give one shit about this woman's mental health, when she seems poised to destroy the life of some unsuspecting man who likely won't know anything about these thoughts rolling around in her mind? Edit: for clarity
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/18 04:00 PM
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Exactly—what’s not being told here is that these women are likely mediocre in their appearance as well. They are also engaging in wishful thinking if they think a mediocre woman, who gains 40 pounds, will be anyone’s dream woman. A particular man’s tolerating of that reality is not the same thing as his liking it. What appalls we though is the willingness to marry a man they find distinctly unattractive. It’s one thing to not find your partner the most attractive person you’ve ever seen, but to …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/18 11:38 AM
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Love how she thinks she’s better than these “little ass boys” when she shared equally in her fuckups with them. I can’t even get over how she honestly believes she is the prize who deserves to be treated like a queen. Apart from being a tall, muscular, and decent looking guy, I am vastly more accomplished than this woman at this point in my life, and yet I don’t think I have her degree of irrational self confidence, that I would sell myself as an opportunity for a woman to treat me like a “king.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/18 12:52 AM
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If she’s legit psychotic, like schizophrenic, she has my genuine sympathies, even if getting involved with her is off the table. That’s a different category than just being a dumb, entitled, bitch.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/18 01:51 AM
1

Thumbs up for subtlety and clever use of a Denny’s staple!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/18 01:47 AM
1

I agree with the “moderation” approach in theory, but am aware that for many people going cold turkey may be better. While I think men would be better served by extra-curricular activities that develop their physique, talents, and intellect, it’s the rare person who is so iron clad in their discipline that they literally have every waking minute accounted for with something that develops them in some way—professionally or personally, or is a necessity (eating, sleeping, etc). Even accomplished p…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/18 05:35 PM
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I think people don’t give the old religious mores enough credit on this topic. I think the emphasis on sexual “purity” is because inappropriate sexual activity has a corrupting effect on the personality, including being an alpha widow. Admittedly there are a range of theological systems, but the redpill did not discover anything new here. Pure and impure are fairly descriptive terms to describe this psychological phenomenon, even if prone to distortion.
/r/RedPillWomen13/06/18 01:43 AM
10

Yup, cheerfully ghost away. Carousel riders aren't entitled to anything.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/18 05:42 PM
11

"I can fuck whatever guy I want. I can fuck a new guy every day If I want to" Yeah baby that sounds like a reasonable, and sustainable life plan, especially for a woman. But go for it--don't let your dreams remain dreams, and I'll catch up with you 20 years to see how your life's turned out.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/18 05:37 PM
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"> Guys: Judge women. Judge them relentlessly, without apology or excuse. Use whatever criteria you want to judge women. If she isn't what you want, walk away. If she starts ragebitching, walk away. If she can't or wont give you what you want/need, kick her ass out." I agree wholeheartedly--judging the opposite gender comes much less naturally to men, particularly if the woman is young and attractive. Men have to proactively scrutinize every relevant detail regarding a woman, both with respect t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/06/18 04:19 PM
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She probably won’t admit to it unless she’s totally cornered.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/18 09:32 PM
10

She's also on borrowed time. Presumably she would want to have a kid right away, and I don't see her physique recovering from that, given how she looks now. Also you have to imagine how she looks without the lipstick, foundation, eye liner, and whatever else she's using to enhance her appearance. Hmmm ... it's almost ... almost like she should have started dating for marriage a good 12 years ago!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/18 05:50 PM
2

Last time I saw that much makeup on a person I was watching the Dark Knight with Heath Ledger.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/18 03:51 AM
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She looks like a more macho version of Woody Allen.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/06/18 03:43 AM
2

Agreed: this double bind sort of thinking really engenders hostility in me towards these dumb single women. A truly exceptional man will not be interested in putting up with this woman’s bullshit—why remain in a relationship with such a spoiled harridan? OTOH a man who submits to her capricious and arbitrary standards may fulfill the list, but she’ll be dissatisfied with him because of his beta behavior. In neither situation is a stable long term relationship tenable. Fix yourselves bitches.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/06/18 06:45 PM
6

THAT was poetry.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/06/18 10:03 PM
1

Agree 100% and congratulations on your oldest daughter finding a good man. I hope things work out between the two of them!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/06/18 03:37 PM
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Men are not disposable. I’ll call the cops at a good distance from the fray, but that’s where my civic duty ends. She should feel fortunate that I acknowledge any duty at all. Does she believe in moral obligations, or pay lip service to the idea? Even in a time and place where women don’t actualize their potential to act like whores, I disagree with the notion that I am any less valuable to society than her. But all the more so given the complete breakdown of the social contract between the sexe…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/18 10:49 PM
2

Fascinating experiment! Thanks for the post.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/18 05:12 PM
3

“Taking the grenade”... ha ha. Sometimes you have to give one up for the team.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/18 04:24 PM
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It’s interesting, but I think you see more of this “you have to” type language juxtaposed to something unflattering about women. Everybody’s all about living a lifestyle as they see fit in modern times, except when a man is dealing with a (1) fat (2) unattractive (3) post-Wall (4) single parent (5) high partner count woman—suddenly as a man “you have to” do this or that. To us it comes across as arrogant and entitled, but it’s probably just a sign of desperation. A criminal fights hardest when t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/18 02:52 PM
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I agree with Illimitable Men’s characterization of a man’s 20s as “the decade of power” where you should be focusing on developing yourself to the fullest extent you possibly can—with a significant focus on establishing your financial empire, skills, hobbies, and physique. Not to say you can’t always improve at older ages, and truthfully I would regard it as optimal to start significantly developing your physique, understanding of women, talents and intellect in your teens, but many of us are to…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/18 01:54 PM
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Yeah—I’m sure the pictures are old and there have been a good number of tacos since then
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/18 12:55 PM
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Yeah, she just casually inserts that little tidbit ...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/18 12:54 PM
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I really respect the fact that you tried to help this guy out, and am pissed that he acted like such a retard afterwards. Between the white knight simps, and idiots like this guy who mess up your attempts at trying to help them, it’s like these blue pill guys have a force field of stupidity wrapped around them. If and when society collapses more and more I think it will be these guys that will be the main barriers to overthrowing gynocentric society. It’s like beating all the bosses in the game,…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/18 11:28 AM
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I think you are behaving in too toxic of a fashion towards him, even if only in your mind, for a continued LTR with this man to work. I rarely advise breaking up online, and certainly take all of this with a grain of salt, but no man wants to hear that the woman in his life looks down on him for physical characteristics he has no control over. He would think “like—WTF—I had all those qualities when you first met me, so why did you get involved with me to begin with?” I’m more worried about him b…
/r/RedPillWomen07/06/18 01:40 AM
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The main caveat is to focus on developing yourself during throughout that entire period of time—financially, intellectually, physically, with respect to your hobbies. Then enjoy the fruits of your earned labor.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/18 08:14 PM
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Poor girl, she’s tired of having a higher sex drive than her partners. A complaint that never earns any man any sympathy ever. So so sad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/18 08:11 PM
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The thing is, of course, is that a man expressing regret after the fact can be due to any number of things—from actual rape to regretting being intimate with a woman who had stronger feelings for him than vice versa, or to regretting failing to live up to a religious upbrining. So it’s not proof of anything, unless he actually admits that he forced her to have sex against her own will. But I do wonder how culpable it makes him seem if this could be brought in front of a court.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/18 04:27 PM
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These women are utterly terrible. What a shitty society we live in that we are now validating a woman’s “mixed feelings” about meaningless sex as after the fact evidence that she was abused or raped. Fuck all these people.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/18 04:23 PM
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“I just want a decent man. It’s not too much to ask.” Pretty sure she would be onboard with hating on incels though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/06/18 12:55 PM
1

Have definitely known people who are serious about fitness and lifting looking 15, even 20 years younger once getting well into middle age and beyond. There's no downside to living like this if done correctly, apart from time and effort—which of course is the challenge. But anything worthwhile involves this.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/18 11:43 AM
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How can a man sleep with that?! Say it ain’t so ! 🤮
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/18 11:04 PM
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That MGTOW was just doing the equivalent of what overweight women do to men all the time—try to shame them into finding them attractive. I wouldn’t pay either any mind.
/r/RedPillWomen05/06/18 01:20 PM
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I agree—there is for all practical purposes no chance that an attractive woman with any significant life experience in our society hasn’t slept around, with the resultant negative impact on their personality. Unless you are dating within a hardcore religious community, you are essentially searching for a needle in a haystack. Why even engage with older women and have them try to convince you otherwise, especially when these concerns still exist, albeit to a slightly lesser degree with their youn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/18 01:13 PM
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I do wonder though that as redpill thinking spreads if there won’t be more guys doing this, and not just because of MeeToo.
/r/MGTOW04/06/18 12:39 AM
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That article was vomit-inducing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/18 10:21 PM
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I’d like to see some dude contact her and haggle with her: “I make a solid 6 figure salary, and can help you out. We can get married, but you have to meet me halfway—I’m going to give you a little bit of AIDS, okay, not a lot ... but just a little.”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/18 12:06 PM
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Dude I so remember being pissed as a teen seeing that movie and thinking “Fuck is he doing with this ho?!” Forrest Gump is like the patron saint of Nice Guys™️—he’s the ultimate non-threatening puppy dog of a man, and you can only achieve that level if you are mentally retarded yourself. Lesser Nice Guys have to be conditioned and dumbed down by society to come close to achieving that level.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/18 11:59 AM
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Yeah, I’ll pass. Glad she’s a real woman with real needs though 👍
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/18 11:52 AM
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The one thing I can say with online dating, and social media in general: they’re a pretty good way of vetting a woman’s character. Obviously an extremely self aware woman can cover up her faults on these forums, but I’m amazed at how many clueless women are comfortable just laying out all their dirty laundry.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/18 11:44 AM
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Yeah, I’ve found that women on the sub seem rather eager to embrace hypergamy, almost as if the acknowledgement of its existence from an evolutionary biology perspective justifies giving free reign to it. Admittedly there are the moderators, and then everyone else. Far too many women rationalize whoring around after the fact on that sub as well, while still thinking they deserve the elusive alpha provider.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/18 03:15 AM
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In my experience a woman can have a strong emotional response to first time sex, even with a man she doesn't know that well. I don't see any reason why a man should assume a woman with multiple partner counts (even single digit) hasn't been affected--for the negative--by some of those experiences, although I expect variation amongst women regarding this. Even if she was perfectly happy throughout all of those experiences, I would not want to make a lifelong investment in a woman whose threshold …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/18 06:37 PM
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I think this retarded thinking partly drives both the sleeping around, and then the marrying, and probably even the divorcing (I think there is some evidence that divorce is socially contagious, but too lazy to look up right now). When they are around 19/20, and see some friends hooking up, they feel insecure if they aren't doing likewise. When their friends hop of the carousel, and start getting married, they feel insecure if no halfway decent guy is around to wife them up. When their friends h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/18 06:25 PM
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A response like this only encourages a measured harsh response from any man who has a sense of self-respect in dealing with women. Something along the lines of: sleep with a woman, and if the hymen is not intact, demote her immediately to plate status, and never consider marrying her. The more moral men can just go MGTOW if he has to assume most women are like this. I realize most women aren't virgins by the time they marry, but I view it as more problematic for a woman to be "fine" with a prior…
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/18 07:21 PM
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My SO is befuddled about the concept of FwB and finds it distasteful despite some of his own colorful choices in the past. I’ve had one and I’m ok with having had one because it was what I needed at that particular time in my life. I don’t look down on my "SO for his past and raise an eyebrow on the rare occasion he brings up mine. My SO can choose to accept my past or not, but I’m not going to apologize for exploring my sexuality." Is this an approach to living you plan on teaching your childre…
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/18 07:03 PM
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That was an epic skewering. Hell, my self-esteem's negatively affected now after witnessing this public bloodletting.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/05/18 06:35 PM
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"The study is based on the National Survey of Family Growth, a survey fielded in 1995 to a nationally representative sample of roughly 10,000 women between the ages of 15 and 44, sponsored and funded by the Centers for Disease Control of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Because men are not included in the NSFG, they are not included anywhere in this report." http://cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_2899_Marriage_Partners_Study.pdf Looks more promising than a big tobacco study.
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/18 05:30 PM
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Doesn't undermine what I said--it's the study design that matters. Additionally, all of this is assuming that secular, progressive, or atheistic researchers are not subject to biases in their own right. Nothing can be further from the truth. It also makes sense that women who slept around, but don't have a long term partner, would want to convince the world they as a population are the equivalent of their less experienced sisters. Lastly, basic observation and received wisdom from the experience…
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/18 05:03 PM
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A single good study is enough for a rational man to take seriously given the consequences of divorce for men in society. I would certainly err on the side of caution and not marry a woman who slept around. But I married a virgin, so it's not really my problem.
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/18 04:58 PM
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Uh, yeah, you would actually have to look at the study methods, and give a coherent explanation for why they are faulty to make a definitive case for this. Citing the funding source, while interesting, does not automatically invalidate a study.
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/18 08:38 PM
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No dude, she's like a really kind person with so much love to give!!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/18 05:07 PM
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These comments must be written by all women, because they are all super optimistic that she'll find love again! Or perhaps things will get worse and worse from here on in. Life's kind of interesting like that!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/18 05:00 PM
1

"because I'm very aware that I'm not Chad - I don't play Chad's games, I don't try to emulate Chad to have success with women, I'm my own person, my own individual, free self. All power to Chad, a toast for him so he can enjoy his SMV benefits for as long as he can, but I'm not to be piled up with him." I find it demeaning because it assumes that the reason you are not sleeping around is because you CAN'T and must therefore be unattractive. This is particularly insidious because as a man social …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/18 04:34 PM
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It's true--a woman really sets her level once she starts whoring around. A man with a healthy sense of self-respect is not going to appreciate knowing that some random douchebag got sex on date 1, and he's waiting some lengthier period of time. Nobody's arguing that it isn't "her body, her choice" (just like it's my choice who I want to commit to), but it's the basis behind her choices that matters. No man wants to hear: "I wont sleep with you for a few weeks," but Chad T, who I slept with on da…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/18 04:14 PM
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These animal filters are such a stupid ass attempt at coping a legit personality. I also don’t get what the deal is with the scrunched up, pursed lips. A few years ago it was the duck face—it that still a thing? Whatever happened to maintaining your appearance, and trying to present yourself as a sweet, responsible, level-headed person? As if it needs to be said: it would also be nice if these broads ditched the “fuck boys” before they became fat single moms.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/18 01:07 AM
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I’ve read from women that ghosting really fucks with their minds. Especially if you were in a LTR with them. I’m not advocating being wantonly cruel, but if she cheated on you, disrespected you in any significant way, I think ghosting is a great option. Men are disadvantaged in the tools of psychological manipulation normally employed by women: therefore I say keep ghosting in your toolbox. The example you bring up is part of the reason why I cant really countenance arguments about ghosting bein…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/18 06:25 PM
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She’s not entitled to ANYTHING.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/18 03:16 PM
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Many women are completely confident in their tendency to shift blame onto men, with apparently no feelings of guilt whatsoever about the behavior they engaged in to cause this to happen in the first place. The reality is that if you are in an established intimate relationship with a woman, sudden withdrawal of your attention, and affection (including completely ghosting), is something that she will hate, but she has to be held accountable for her actions. Otherwise she will walk all over you and…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/18 01:30 PM
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Partner count
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/18 11:36 PM
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I’m really thinking it’s fair play for a guy to set up a date with these Tinder broads, maybe in an open air setting, deliberately show up a little late so he can spot her from a distance, and then ghost if she’s noticeably fatter than her profile pick. It’s an unethical game of bait and switch they are playing, so why not? I once had a date with a girl where her profile pick made her out to look like a model. While she wasn’t heavier than her picture, she looked nothing like her profile pick in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/18 08:05 PM
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100%—I realize ultimately they want a stable LTR, but having short term sexual encounters with attractive members of the opposite sex is better than nothing, putting moral considerations aside. These women get zero sympathy from me, and I was never close be being an incel myself. Unless you are absolutely top tier attractive as a man, inevitably you have to deal with the stuck up attitudes of unworthy women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/18 07:51 PM
12

“STX—this is your Father: what I tell you about having sex with fat chicks!? That is not the way son!”
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/18 07:42 PM
19

No kidding—when a woman tries to set you up with her ugly friend, or promote herself on POF, she will suddenly lose all conception of what it means to be attractive. Better to simply use euphemistic newspeak, take photos at weird angles, and shame men than to actually put down the cheeseburgers and workout.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/18 07:40 PM
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What are the odds that those dudes she doesn’t find remotely appealing are actually ‘falling in love” with her? They probably just recognize that she’s at their level and don’t find her ugly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/18 07:36 PM
5

I think these women underestimate what would happen if a sizable minority of men withdraw attention, affection, provisioning, and protection of women long term. The above amounts to a lot more than an average looking guy withdrawing from sex—which would not matter much to a woman in her prime. It’s the cumulative effect, starting with the onset of baby rabies, and then looking forward to facing an increasingly indifferent world as a member of the physically weaker and more neurotic sex.
/r/MGTOW25/05/18 08:55 PM
10

It’s tragic and hilarious at the same time. All the incels, and dutiful betas getting scraps, and this c-nt decides on a whim to freely participate in a sexual smorgasbord because her retarded brain convinces herself that lacking a pare bonding instinct will be good for her life in the long term. I bet she’s a 5 at best too. Get me off this planet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/18 08:11 PM
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Additionally far fewer women tend to their appearance when it matters most—when they have a man locked down in a marriage. A woman trying to look her best for a man during the first date means absolutely shit—sure you can look it as her putting her best foot forward, but dressing yourself up to look like eye candy, when most of those guys are likely going to be “nexted” after paying for a few dates is self-serving more than anything else, so why should a random man feel obligated to pay for that…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/18 07:10 PM
4

I know, it’s such a bullshit copout.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/18 07:01 PM
5

In a barbaric society you win if you can hit (or kill) a woman with impunity. Her main recourse would be to get other men to come after you, so even then it’s no guarantee, but in a state of nature the stronger party wins, which is usually a man. Obviously I’m not advocating randomly assaulting or killing people, male or female. But civilized society, especially gynocentric society, creates an illusion of female strength because of the existence of state protection. Men are the stronger sex. Wom…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/18 03:47 PM
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The mantra around here amonst most men, as far as I can see, is “enjoy the decline.” You can hardly find a population of heterosexual men more disinterested in a lifelong relationship with a woman. Oh, and for just about every man here that “dies alone,” there will be a woman suffering the same fate. One less protector and provider, one less shoulder to cry on, one less man to take advantage of in divorce court. Keep laughing!
/r/TheRedPill25/05/18 12:39 AM
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I missed the part where this guy was actually coercing women into having sex with him.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/18 12:15 AM
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(1) But of course you don’t know that he is doing it IN ORDER to get laid—that’s you projecting. And yes there are plenty of women that prefer assholes to genuinely nice men—precisely because they are assholes. Common examples abound in general society, but you even see this phenomenon at the extremes: eg. women writing to serial killers and death row inmates based on romantic infatuation. These women deserve to die alone. (2) No one is entitled to a sexual relationship, but nice men who lament …
/r/TheRedPill25/05/18 12:11 AM
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Love how she prejudges all the men out there looking at her profile, but don’t you dare judge her! Women are far more judgemental than men in the dating game. Most of them default to a position of assuming we’re unworthy until we prove otherwise, but they lose their shit if a man diqualifies them for being a whore, having obvious personality problems, or being a fat tub of crisco.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/18 08:21 PM
11

Not being able to get an erection because a girl is unattractive is shallow in 2018. In the past it was just biology.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/18 08:16 PM
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Honestly, if this chick just did 3 things, chances are she would do fine: (1) Exercise self control regarding eating and lose weight. Wouldn’t hurt to workout too. Can’t see the smaller pictures but she looks like she’s pretty. (2) Be a nice person, and be civil to the guys that she dates. (3) Keep the n count as low as she reasonably can while vetting men for good character and not just tingles. If she lost weight and was nice she would likely find a decent guy within a reasonable amount of tim…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/18 08:13 PM
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I agree—when I look at these women I consider their age. She may be attractive for 42 but her looks can tank literally any day now, and I don’t know if she is really aware of that. There is absolutely no guarantee she will retain any legit attractiveness even 3 years into the future, whereas a 20 something year old who lives healthily is a much better prospect. And it’s amazing what makeup and fashion tricks can do—how does she look when she first wakes up? Most people don’t look their best, but…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/18 11:51 AM
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What annoys me about this is thinking of all the free dinners and outings she’s had at the expense of hapless men who couldn’t have known in advance that she has such an idiotic attitude towards dating.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/18 11:44 AM
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I think I’ll get the papers, get the papers
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/18 11:40 AM
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Holy shit I don’t know whether to laugh or cry bro. These comments man—keep ‘em up!
/r/TheRedPill24/05/18 12:20 AM
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I was rather deeply moved by the “going hogging” remark myself.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/18 12:02 AM
11

It probably makes it harder for men in the 4-6 range themselves, who now have to deal with women closer to their level but who overvalue themselves because they once got Chad. Additionally it’s not exactly like these attractive men don’t hit on attractive women either. Presumably many do, so the epidemic of male thirst, and female overvaluation continues at all levels of attractiveness. These average to low SMV women are typically the greatest victims of the Wall, and if they get pregnant out of…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 11:58 PM
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I think there seriously needs to be an embargo on male attention directed against women, but the cultural forces at play to encourage women to maximize their attention whoring behavior are tremendous.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/05/18 11:08 PM
1

Not brutal enough IMO--that is if you are looking for more than a pump and dump. The nature of the psychiatric issues she has would kill any prospects of happily being involved with her for more than even a short while—we’re talking -5.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/05/18 11:47 AM
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That beard is still more honest than makeup, high heels, a pushup bra and dyed hair. At least it’s you—just you with a beard. Just a random observation, not connected to anything you’re saying.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/05/18 01:24 AM
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Yeah, the farm animal point is admittedly an extreme example. My point was to emphasize that a man’s willingness to sleep with a woman does not say too much about how attractive she is—certainly not for a seriously committed relationship, but in many cases even for a hookup. I mean I look at all these dating profiles thrown up on this subreddit and I think to myself “most of these women are hideous!” But then you scroll down to the bottom of the screen and you see them ragging on all the guys th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/18 05:51 PM
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s she points out, if she doesn't fuck him, he's got another 5 women who will. Precisely: she made this comment as if that's the experience of your average man. Would love to see a picture of her, and pictures of the guys she deigns "worthy enough" to date. Also like your comment on SMV at the end: when a woman finally gets serious about a permanent relationship she encounters her true value in the marketplace. As long as she's casually hooking up (whether or not she secretly hopes for more) she'…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/18 04:22 PM
2

Hahahahahahah!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/18 02:01 AM
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I can’t speak for other men, but when I was at my horniest—lets say adolescence through mid 20s, I could reliably divide women into 3 groups: about 20-30% of them I could enthusiastically sleep with. Another 40% I could sleep with, but not enthusiastically, although maybe I could be surprised by how enjoyable an experience it would be, if they were enthusiastic, or maybe hit on the right kind of kink. Let’s call these women the mediocre ones. The final 30% I would either not be able to get it up…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/18 11:42 PM
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She must be soooooo intelligent to finally realize at the age of 27 that human beings have a basic desire to pair bond and procreate. Just how intelligent do you have to be to be such a retard?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/18 10:51 PM
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That’s the thing—I would regard this as a piece of genuine self-reflection if there wasn’t this insufferable self-congratulating quality to the writing. “Whoa is me: I’m too intelligent and accomplished to tolerate anyone less intelligent or accompished than (I think) I am ... yet feminism deceived me about what matters most, and I feel betrayed and lied to.” Choose bitch, if you’re really that intelligent—how many male geniuses have married women who fell short of that stature throughout histor…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/18 10:44 PM
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Yeah, it would be a fool's errand for a man to engage in correlation-causation waffling when having to make an important decision that may impact on the rest of his life (who to marry and have children with). I advocate erring on assuming causation every time.
/r/RedPillWomen16/05/18 06:18 PM
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I agree--congratulations to the OP for fighting through any limiting beliefs/feelings he had throughout all of this. This is huge, and this is a good example of what to do with any worthwhile endeavor, providing you are also thinking of ways to improve and are open to constructive criticism.
/r/TheRedPill16/05/18 02:23 PM
2

Yeah definitely higher personal standards—on a cultural level (not legal) although hard to imagine that happening with Pandora’s box wide open.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 10:11 PM
4

“Being a woman is expensive for the man.” Fixed that for her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 09:14 PM
3

I know—it’s sad that the only plus in her profile is the fact that she decided to not kill her child. Damn.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 09:06 PM
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I agree—you have to decide how much to read about this sort of stuff, but I honestly view forums like this as a kind of booster shot, since the male tendency to behave protectively, or sympathetically, towards women allows him to be vulnerable to this sort of selfish manipulation. It’s good to remind yourself periodically.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 06:49 PM
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“"Wow he admitted he settled for you? Kick his ass to the curb!". There would be no "Well, he's with you now, isn't he?" type of reasoning.“ Exactly—what’s toxic about this reasoning (amongst many things) is that a man can hear this sort of double standard hitting him from all angles when dealing with women—including women he should be able to trust—family members and supposed friends. So many young men find themselves in this situation—raised by single mothers, no strong father figure in their …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 06:46 PM
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The thing is: this philosophy carried over an entire nation results in countless out of wedlock births, dysfunctional children being raised by irresponsible single mothers, and millions of needless abortions. But it’s okay ... don’t want to come across as a judgemental prude for imposing standards of sexual morality on your children. The “consenting adults only” standard for propriety for a given sexual relationship fails on a society level. We are living out the reality of people implementing t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 06:16 PM
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Agreed—I was fucking enraged by that comment. How a woman behaved in the past is DIRECTLY relevant to our relationship in the present. The number of dicks this woman had inside of her, her behavior in those relationships, and the nature of those relationships, is completely relevant, regardless of the spin women and retarded blue pill males try to put on it. This is subtle shaming language—no more, no less: the commenter is probably a female carousel rider herself that bristles at the idea of an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 06:13 PM
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So true. Like why the hell would you want to LTR a woman who is so complacent as to view her personality faults as something to merely write off, as opposed to something that is her responsibility to work on? Marilyn Manroe’s “best” was that she was attractive—which is really most relevant for a short term relationship, before the inevitable shitty personality took over and fucked up any hopes of a happy marriage to her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 06:05 PM
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Really instructive how this chick does something completely inappropriate, and when he doesn’t lap it up like a hungry dog he’s suddenly a loser/asshole, with a dead-end job. A random woman’s criticism of you is worthless. You have to decide for yourself what areas you need to improve on in your life, what deficiencies you need to correct, etc. And you should make these improvements because you have decided that it has objective value to you, not some chick. Obviously this can include your obser…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 01:50 PM
2

I remember seeing that in HS and being irritated as hell at the whole plot. I had zero empathy for the main character, but of course this was a movie where the legions of females going to see it were supposed to empathize. If I recall in the end she didn’t get the guy, and there was some acknowledgement that she was being crazy, but it was an annoying reminder to me even then of female nature—this tendency to discount a good guy until you cant have him anymore. How many potential relationships a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 12:57 PM
2

She may think it’s a tragedy, but we all know it’s a comedy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 12:48 PM
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This is a classic reformulation of the “boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy and girl are reunited” movie trope, but to fit the modern era. It increasingly ends with a bucket of ice cream and cats for these girls.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 12:44 PM
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It does raise the question of whether “dread game” actually applies in the friendzone. This story suggests that it does in certain circumstances. Of course I don’t really mean dread game in this case—it would be better for any guy in his situation to simply cut his losses and look elsewhere than the girl friendzoning him, but it’s an interesting—if not entertaining—reaction that she had. She lays out at the beginning that they don’t really have shared values on some major life goals, and yet she…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/18 12:38 PM
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I agree—the bullshit thing is that she would probably still do those things if Chad came back on the scene and she thought it would be possible to lock him down. It all comes down to her exerting more effort for some random dude who was plating her than her current guy with whom she supposedly shares a “deeper” relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/05/18 11:47 PM
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“OP is not the hero we deserve, but the one we need.”. Epic. Thanks for the update.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/05/18 10:29 PM
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I agree—it’s kind of like a person who was once a rich miser, but loses it all, now writing about the virtue of giving to charity and helping the less fortunate. I guess it’s great that they had a change of heart but requiring personal catastrophe to achieve a perspective that normal, every day people hold is not particularly impressive. I’d rather hold up people who are introspective and humble in circumstances when they can easily be otherwise as examples of virtue.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/05/18 08:25 AM
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“ Grief over childlessness (link is external) for a single woman in her thirties and forties is not as accepted. Instead, it's assumed we just don't understand that our fertility has a limited lifespan and we are simply being reckless with chance. We're labeled "career women" as if we graduated college, burned our bras and got jobs to exhibit some sort of feminist muscle. Or, it's assumed we're not 'trying hard enough,' or we're 'being too picky.'” ‘Cause that shit’s pretty much all true.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/05/18 01:48 AM
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Trust me, the young virgin will catch on quickly if she’s enjoying herself. Ignore old woman propaganda.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/05/18 01:45 AM
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“I’m 39 now and feeling like time is running out to find someone before I lose my sex appeal.” So I can pull a bait and switch on him, and start looking like shit 2 days after the wedding. Remember guys: it’s not just how good she looks now, but how long she will stay looking good.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/18 07:22 PM
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The problem for a man is that if a woman doesn’t stand down in a verbal dispute where she is clearly crossing the line, if he finds himself in a marriage situation he is left with little recourse. When women say that the man should step up and “not allow it to happen,” they have to realize that simply pointing out to your woman that she’s being overly critical and should cut it out works for only some women—not others. What do you do with the women that insist on being bitches? Beating them up i…
/r/RedPillWomen08/05/18 07:10 PM
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Ditto—ugh, no words
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/18 06:44 PM
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Additionally Doritos and Mountain Dew aren’t people. This is a woman who admits to behaving like a superficial, hypergamous, piece of trash for a full 20 years, and walking all over guys in the process. The analogy completely removes the human element here, which is precisely the issue. You can’t betray, backstab, or dehumanize a bag of Doritos.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 08:22 PM
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Though the redpill uses terms like "oneitis," in other circles what you are describing sounds like "limerence,"--an unusually powerful romantic fixation on a person (there are reddit groups/internet groups that might provide insight). Most men in TRP that think about this seem to assume that women have to be physically involved with a man in order for these feelings to develop, but I know that's not completely true. Men certainly develop these feelings without being physically involved with a wo…
/r/RedPillWomen07/05/18 06:53 PM
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No dude: she was cut out of the will because she was too pretty /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 06:14 PM
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I know man. Because gaslighting and reframing the narrative is so common among women I don't feel like I can extend my sympathies towards them generally unless I see unequivocal evidence of them being a victim. It seems likely that there is always more to the story. Everyone knows that relationships with terrible women usually involve them making your life miserable with a thousand and one little passive aggressive slights, them losing their shit over nonsense, lacking honor, or pulling bait and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 06:13 PM
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Yeah unless there is a reliable way of short-circuiting this “hardship” clause to prevent these broads from acting just like the welfare queens, I can see the law not accomplishing much.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/18 01:00 PM
1

Observe the tongue shot. Any of you guys want to hit that, make sure to take her out for some ice cream. It’s like she practically giving you the keys to her chastity belt.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 12:28 PM
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You can friendzone her and complain to her about all the younger plates you’re spinning.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 04:16 AM
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From Thomas Sowell: "When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 04:13 AM
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When did it become a thing to look like you’re having giant boogers coming out of your nose?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 04:07 AM
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Don’t beat yourself up. What can I say? You thought this woman was better than she is. I agree that it’s not worth your while to ask such a question—unless she’s a virgin, probably no good can come of it. OTOH if you were actually thinking about marrying the girl, her prior sexual experiences do matter. There appears to be a very real correlation between increasing N counts and divorce risk, so some solid assessment of her sexual history matters. Be wary and protect yourself from women, but neve…
/r/TheRedPill06/05/18 11:48 PM
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Had a friendly acquaintance from HS tell me this once after we were now in college—how she used guys to buy her dinner. Always seemed like a nice person—soft spoken and seemingly sweet disposition. Amazing that she would admit such a thing to me, and assume that I wouldn’t lose any and all respect for her instantly. Aren’t females supposed to be the socially aware gender?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/18 11:27 PM
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This underscores the importance of retaining—and expanding—male social spaces, devoid of women. Men have to be able to talk about those issues that are of concern to them—from trivial to important—in a way that women cannot interfere with. Otherwise men are prone to censoring themselves, or flirting with women when there are potentially more important issues to discuss. It also underscores the need to have healthy father figures and friends in your life. While TRP prides itself on giving a strai…
/r/TheRedPill06/05/18 10:01 PM
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Go live in a country where the State doesn’t interfere with the natural superior strength of men over women. You’ll find a large number of men who can “tame” you there, since your average man could probably tame you quite easily if you angered him enough, without outside protection to give you the illusion of strength that many women operate under in the West. Perhaps Sudan. Alternatively you can recognize that it’s really up to you to exhibit self control, and not some man’s job to keep you in …
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/18 06:40 PM
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Although marriage in just about any context can entail risks, I think you have the right idea, if marriage is on the table for you at all. In general I think men have 3 choices in the current sexual marketplace in America (and probably most Western countries): (1) PUA/“enjoy the decline” (don’t get anyone pregnant!) (2) MGTOW (3) Finding a different sexual marketplace, where the implicit rules of engagement and marriage are more sane. That means in practice: a religious subculture where the divo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/18 01:27 PM
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I know—even if I had rock bottom SMV I’d like to think I’d have more self respect than to pay out such a retarded sum of money to have sex with a woman. If he’s going the prostitute route we have to ask: is this the best deal he could get?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/18 10:47 AM
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And this is exactly the problem. In a time when women are slutting it up, you don’t just have to worry about the baggage of a girl you’re with messing things up for you, but you also have to worry about her slut friends throwing you under the bus because they’re all about the carousel. Even if you are enough of a Chad in your appearance, consider who you’re left with if you’re trying to LTR this person: a woman with no integrity, who no doubt wants you to ingratiate yourself to her equality wort…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/05/18 10:40 AM
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My wife was a virgin, and is quite attractive. I feel sorry for decent guys who are not in my shoes. Girls who think it’s all about “insecurity” on the part of the man are in fact projecting their own insecurities. Women with more baggage (including more sexual encounters) make lousier partners on average, that’s just the way it is. Doesn’t apply to every woman—there are a fair number of exceptions, but this applies to a LOT of women, particularly women who are complacent about slutting it up in…
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/18 03:17 AM
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Yeah the low expectations for women in this department are something more akin to Stockholm syndrome for many men, than actually being okay with a high N count.
/r/RedPillWomen06/05/18 02:54 AM
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Yeah, I didn't do much online dating, and am married, but my perspective is that they can be very useful as long as people are willing to pre-screen for other factors for compatibility than just looks. It would be far preferable to rule out prospective partners based on incompatible life goals, religious, political views, hard dating preferences, before even looking at pictures, based on some filtering algorithm. I would only look at pictures after use of a filtering algorithm and approach those…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/18 08:30 PM
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Aren't we kind of at a point, here in 2018, where it's obvious that there are plenty of women who engage in random hookups? The idea that they are looking for a future husband with each of these encounters is not even remotely plausible. I'm willing to believe women accumulate more psychological baggage, on average, from frivolous sexual experiences, but that only makes me more perplexed at all the women that contribute to this promiscuous sexual jungle we find ourselves in.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/18 08:16 PM
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Yeah, why do I assume from this that she was actually a pretty snarky c-nt of a wife to her husband?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/18 08:10 PM
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This is actually an interesting quote. I usually assume women don't regret rejecting a guy, unless they were sexually active and had at least the makings of an LTR at some point. Then again maybe that's what she had with these prior guys. People talk about women supposedly moving on better than men from prior relationships. Perhaps (don't have an opinion)--but we see here that post wall women staring into the abyss of loneliness are faced with a certain kind of reckoning that is more typical for…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/18 08:07 PM
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Yeah it’s projection in the extreme. It’s like she’s embodying the men she would like to have in her life, thinking that a man wants to have a “baddass, nasty” woman. Seeing how the mind of this woman works though makes be sympathetic towards men in our culture who flounder in their relationships with women. She makes no fucking sense: she is skeptical about the value of marriage and monogamy, yet she is deeply offended when a man expresses primarily a sexual interest in her. Exactly how committ…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/18 05:46 AM
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She acts annoying as fuck. Thing is, even though he’s dressed wierdly, they are not mismatched lookswise. It’s not like he’s 5 feet tall, buck toothed, with a BMI of 40 and she’s a supermodel. This guy needs an intervention. She may be his oneitis, but to the rest of us she looks like a complete retard. It’d be great if he knew this.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/18 05:37 AM
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You’re probably right. There’s some possibility that she will end up with a violent dark triad alpha with a criminal record, who will beat the shit out of her, knock her up one or two more times, and then she hits the wall HARD. But she probably will field offers from well to do simps while she’s young and attractive. Hopefully her desire for tingles will be her undoing, rather than beta becks, but then again—why not both?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/18 11:22 PM
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She honestly thinks that it’s a fair proposition to just ask a man to up and take care of her baggage, and the roughly 2 decades of personal and financial responsibility that would entail (if not longer). Doesn’t even make an attempt to describe what she brings to the table. The trannies are right—women do have balls.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/18 10:18 PM
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Suspect there is some significant mental illness there (beyond what you normally see with a significant chunk of women), and the “Into the Wild” personality type is probably just euphamistic language. The bit about her only seeing the good in people may actually be more reflective of borderline personality, and their tendency to idealize before splitting, but that’s just a speculation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/18 10:11 PM
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I agree: I think it's problematic when people try to place everything on the shoulders of men, and don't ascribe accountability to women. I view it as the RP equivalent of white knighting: white knights justify every behavior on the part of women due to excessive idealization of them. There is the danger, however, of the opposite problem: excusing shitty behavior on the part of women because we demote them to the level of animals, without any moral agency whatsoever, so how can they be held acco…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/18 05:46 PM
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Try to meet guys in a conservative religious setting (see if there are singles events, large churches if you are Xtian, dating sites for such people). If you are in a college situation maybe try a local republican/conservative club. Workout and maintain your weight, and tastefully apply makeup. None of these things provide a guarantee, but trying to find a conservative guy in general secular America will likely lead to disappointment. I would read extensively from writers who promote conservativ…
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/18 04:21 AM
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There is only so much info I can glean on OP short of looking at video footage of her interacting with a given man to assess her SMV. But I don't think SMV trumps everything in all cases, especially if you are dealing with a man who was burned hard enough in the past, and is totally jaded towards women. The best I can say is keep searching if she honestly thinks the caliber of men she is going for are reasonable (would like to know how handsome these lower income guys are). Maybe search outside …
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/18 09:10 PM
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Not all religions, and religious groups, are equal, and I'm very skeptical about studies that lump casual religious observers with people for whom it's a legit guiding force for their lives. A google search, for instance, reveals that American Orthodox Jews have a divorce rate hovering around 10%, with variability depending on religious sub-communities within that group. https://jewishaction.com/family/marriage/data-divorce-q-dr-yitzchak-schechter/ (The stat is embeded in the interview) The marr…
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/18 07:40 PM
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That's true. I imagine the situation is getting worse re: marriage prospects for women, but it's not like a majority of men have read the writing on the wall, even in 2018.
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/18 06:52 PM
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I don't have a single answer, but some things that I think can be helpful: (1) Have a productive routine to your day that you apply consistently--even if it's spending a certain amount of time working out, praying/meditating, cultivating hobbies. While work is inevitably baked into this, by productive, I mean productive in the sense of certain activities that objectively improve your health, and improve your subjective sense of well-being. (2) Having meaning in you life helps. For many, crafting…
/r/TheRedPill02/05/18 12:31 PM
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The beauty of a man focusing on self actualization is that he is being motivated, hopefully, by a positive force, which can help facilitate an IDGAF attitude, not because he is deliberately trying to be callous, but because he is preoccupied with living a meaningful and productive life. It's far preferable to achieve this attitude as a byproduct of focusing on personal development (hopefully along multiple lines--including physical) then simply trying to will yourself into having an IDGAF attitu…
/r/TheRedPill02/05/18 12:21 PM
1

Good point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/18 03:25 AM
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I think they hate both, but I think withdrawing when you are already in a committed relationship is what they absolutely hate.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/18 02:00 AM
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Glad you pointed this out. WTF is it with these broads throwing an “LOL” in there after making a statement that discloses some serious flaw in their personality? I’ve already noticed it on a few of these postings, but you see it on female reddit comments as well. Tagging an “LOL” to an admission of a character fault doesn’t soften shit. If anything it emphasizes that she needs to be avoided at all costs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/18 01:50 AM
1

I don’t see why a prenup can’t have these terms and considerations baked in.
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/18 12:46 AM
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Remember men: if you are not attracted to a woman it’s because you are a misogynist. You may have thought it was simply biology, but you must be re-educated, because your penis is an idealogue.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/18 11:38 PM
1

I agree. I think if you can demonstrate some of the more typical nurturing behaviors that would be great. If you guys are actually going to have any special meals, and if you are able, it would be great to consider even doing part of the cooking, or serving of entrees. Obviously it depends on the family dynamic—if they’re always ordering takeout, or don’t have special sitdown meals, or mom jealously guards her kitchen, etc. that’s something else.
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/18 08:24 PM
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It may help to complement him on the concrete things that he is doing that you value about him, that are unique to him, and are independent of the income he brings in. I think the job/income thing is very tangible, and if a man feels like that contribution of his is now devalued (in economic terms) by your raise, he can sometimes be left wondering what tangible things he is offering. He’s probably less capable of appreciating the intangible things he brings to your relationship because he is inc…
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/18 08:19 PM
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Yes, I think the time is right for men of this and ensuing generations to go "scorched earth" regarding standards and these women. They have to be absolutely unapologetic on this front, keeping in mind that going MGTOW is preferable to living with a terrible woman, and therefore a viable option. Everyone with eyes to see knows how attractive women in their prime rapidly "next" men they meet for things often as trivial as a single joke that falls flat. Yet we're supposed to feel guilty about judg…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/18 09:21 PM
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Comment not nearly disagreeable enough. You're obviously here to troll.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/18 04:36 PM
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I think being a "gold digger" implies going above and beyond the reasonable. It is reasonable to seek out a man who can provide if your goal is to be a stay at home mom (and this is discussed and agreed upon in advance). "Provide" means the necessities, though, and for most families that can be accomplished on a healthy 5 figure income, depending on family size. Anything above that is nice, but technically a luxury. I'm not saying one can't hope for a guy that makes more, but it's important to d…
/r/RedPillWomen30/04/18 04:19 PM
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Would highly, highly recommend getting an internet bank, like CapitalOne (where you can open up multiple savings accounts), linking it to your brick and mortar bank, and transfering a set amount each month (even if it starts of as minimal). Automate, automate, automate my friend. One of the best pieces of financial advice I can give you.
/r/MGTOW30/04/18 01:24 AM
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Part of my job involves evaluating disability claims. The applicants are disproportionately female, based on my casual observations, and keep in mind that on average they are working more sedentary jobs, and are asking for disability for lighter conditions, like migraine.
/r/MGTOW30/04/18 01:21 AM
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The advice columnist is devoid of principles. The blind leading the blind. advice.
/r/MGTOW30/04/18 12:55 AM
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Yup, couldn’t agree more.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/18 10:48 PM
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“One moment men complain that women are promiscuous in their youth until they hit the wall, the next minute they talk about spinning plates and how only younger women are of any worth to them. Is that what I have to expect from men?” Your worries are justified. I would advise you find a traditional man, not a “redpill” man per se, because the traditional man is not yet cynical about marriage. And then it would be partly up to you to decide whether or not your marriage becomes a stastic, or thriv…
/r/RedPillWomen29/04/18 09:37 PM
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Sounds plausible: 18 years of marriage, and she’s 50, so she got married at 32, and for sure was already starting to feel the approach of The Wall, and decline in access to high value men. So she was probably desperate for marriage back then. Would not at all be surprised if she figured she could nag him into having kids later on.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/18 09:11 PM
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I’m glad this subreddit exists: these shitty articles, by shitty feminists frequently don’t allow for comments, presumably in an effort to propagandize, and control the terms of the conversation. Subreddits like this partially correct for that, even if it doesn’t reach most of the original readers of the article. Feminist propaganda needs to be unpacked so men can develop a trained eye to see through the bullshit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/18 08:59 PM
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All the legal concerns are legit, but on a basic level I would never give my (potential) children over to a random, anonymous woman. Children raised by single mothers tend to have shitty upbringings. I would not subject my children to that. The ability for women to detonate their existing families in a no-fault frivorce is a much bigger societal issue than the absence of sufficient sperm donors. Ditto for the attitudinal changes in women that have made the whole process of dating and being marri…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/04/18 08:52 PM
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Observe the effortless hamster rationalizing—she reframed being an irresponsible carousel rider, with an out of wedlock child, into being some sort of pillar of the community. And if you disagree with that—well, you must be some sort of a loser.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/18 11:16 PM
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Look at those soulless eyes ...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/18 07:42 PM
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Yeah that’s the big thing—unfortunately you always have the challenge of having to master it, rather than the other way around. While this is a life problem, of self mastery vs. lapsing into self-defeating habits, social media is designed to tempt you constantly into being unproductive.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/18 12:23 PM
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A little less love, and a little more loyalty ladies. If that’s “love” than who needs it?
/r/TheRedPill26/04/18 04:32 PM
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Although this sounds a bit vague, as long as you believe you are achieving self actualization generally, I think it’s fine to be “satisfied.” This doesn’t equate with not having goals, IMO. I think it’s important to always have goals of some sort, although it’s preferable that they mostly be goals that you find intrinsically rewarding, instead of having them foisted on you from the outside. This creates some tension WRT women. Most goals a rational human being should shoot for should include sel…
/r/TheRedPill26/04/18 02:02 PM
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"Who wants to help a girl out?". She makes it sound like she asking us to help her daughter carry grocery bags upstairs instead of signing up for indentured servitude to raise someone else's kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/04/18 02:12 AM
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What I mean is that when we say a young woman can secure commitment relatively easily, we have to understand the context. At least in my opinion she can secure commitment fairly easily with a man of equal, or near-equal SMV. If she is an average woman, going for a top tier man, it’s not necessarily even a guarantee that she will sleep with him, let alone get commitment, while she is in her prime attractiveness years, forget about post-wall or whatever.
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/18 11:09 PM
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I was going to deduct points for the almost complete lack of punctuation, but then saw that she’s a poet, so I guess there’s that. What’s the deal with her appearance that has her so defensive? I mean she’s using the overhead shots a lot. Can you tell she’s fat from these photos? She’s also using all sorts of wacky lighting/filtering effects, making me wonder if there’s something going on with the skin.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/18 09:15 PM
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“Young women in the prime of their beauty and innocence can have the pick of the litter.” While I definitely agree that women hold most of the cards (relative to men) during their prime attractiveness years, I seriously doubt that their power for securing commitment is that great, unless they are either more attractive than average, or are dating a man close enough to them in SMV. A woman who is a 5 will tend to have difficulty securing commitment from a male 9, regardless of her stage in life. …
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/18 09:04 PM
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Ha ha thanks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/18 07:32 PM
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You’re expressing a hope that your spouse die sooner than later for a financial payout. There are few things more morally reprehensible than this, and you are being deliberately obtuse by denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:53 PM
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To females of okcupid we say “ouch!” I know they’re running a business and all, and have to suck up to their clientele, but “ouch” barely registers as a criticism. A society where 80% of men are being rejected cannot survive—and remain civilized—for long. Human beings are not monkeys, who could maybe exist in a state of equilibrium with such an arrangement, as they cannot develop a civilization anyway. You cannot hope to have a thriving human society with children that are overwhelmingly born an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/18 01:07 PM
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After reading this the first time I was merely irritated because she’s fat and dumb, so why the hell does she think she can afford to be so entitled? Then I saw that she’s a single mom. I mean she really thinks she doesn’t even have to try doesn’t she?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/18 02:03 AM
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While I hear the argument about men not being “sexually attractive enough,” I think there are points that needs to be emphasized about female sexual attractiveness in the SMP. (1) Women have conventions in place (the various tricks and techniques of makeup and fashion) to make themselves look more attractive then they really are. If you remove makeup from all women, you will see that the number of women who rank at an 8 or above is quite small. It would shorten the discrepancy between perceived …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/18 08:13 PM
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Might just make more sense to not get into an LTR unless she has a healthy, positive, relationship with her father (who himself seems to be a standup guy). I'm not convinced it's worth it to see if you are up to the challenge of dealing with a given woman's craziness, or skeletons in her closet. If she has them to any significant degree it should be a no go. I realize that since we live in a dysfunctional society this excludes a good number of women from LTRs, but it's important for men to have …
/r/TheRedPill24/04/18 04:17 PM
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I think your last sentence sort of hits the nail on the head. At the end of the day basic loyalty is what matters, if you have determined that the person you are with is a decent enough of a person/has reasonably kept up their end of things. It’s not sexy, but it’s completely unrealistic for a person to believe that they should be starry eyed over their partner for their entire lives. A mature outlook, that accounts for tolerable imperfections, is what is needed, and a willingness to treat the o…
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/18 02:30 PM
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Thanks for painting the vivid picture.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/18 11:32 AM
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Savage!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/18 04:35 AM
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I agree—it seems ridiculous on the surface, most mostly it’s actually reasonable. It’s just that we live in such a gynocentric society, filled with dysfunctional, slacker females, that the above can appear unreasonable. As below, I mentioned that I don’t think it’s quite strict enough, if you are seriously considering marriage. I would say that there is actually a need for men to compile reasonable, but rigorous lists, from relatively young. For far too many of us the criteria is more like: (1) …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/18 11:16 PM
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This is a minor point in comparison to the overall retardation contained in the article, but: anyone else annoyed that a supposedly major blemish on his character was the calling his mother about the shirt thing? I mean, I agree it’s kind of dumb, but he’s A FUCKING WALLSTREET BANKER ... I think that demonstrates he has the tools to make decisions in his life and successfully live on his own. Most likely this was either self deprecating humor on his part or, at worst, a ridiculous quirk in his p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/18 08:12 PM
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The sad thing is this list is probably not restrictive enough. For instance, a man who’s thinking about marriage should probably subtract a point for every man she slept with past 0.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/18 08:02 PM
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I have hope that redpill awareness will gradually seep into the culture and over time the number of men like this will start to dwindle. They’ll never go away completely, but my hope is that intelligent, high value men at least will start to collectively wake up, leaving only bottom of the barrel guys for these broads.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/18 02:27 PM
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Awwww ... shucks
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/18 09:41 PM
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Men don’t have a hypergamous impulse like women, so they are almost never concerned about “marrying up” socially and economically on an emotional or instinctive level. But men can modify their dating/marriage strategy based on reason, because human beings have the capacity to be rational actors and override raw instict. So depending on the social trends of the day, you may see men behaving in ways that run counter to their default setting. In 2018 there are a number of good reasons, if you are a…
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/18 05:27 PM
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Every person has their “last best chance” but I think for women that window is narrower than men, and I think it’s probably much narrower than many women would like to believe (probably expiring sometime in their 20s, with outliers of course).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/04/18 03:17 PM
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Man, it’s like where can a guy get a girl like that to place incessant demands on him for the rest of his life (or until the divorce)? That’s what we all want!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/18 10:26 PM
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Gotta love it in these articles when they slap the pic of a woman younger and prettier than them on the title, as they proceed to talk about all the loser guys out there, and how they just don’t add up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/18 10:16 PM
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I can’t tell what % of young men dating an attractive 21 year old just want to pump and dump, but I’m fairly certain that a decent percentage would be open to an LTR. Being pretty and pleasant to be around goes a long way when you are in your prime as a woman. The final piece is being realistic about your relationship market value, and then dating a principled man who is closer to your relationship market value, rather than shooting to interact with the best looking man possible, regardless of h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/18 06:15 PM
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Those who are kind to the cruel, in the end will be cruel to the kind There’s a massive societal apparatus in place, particularly in Western society, that caters to the feelings of women, and papers over the indiscretions of self centered, irresponsible women. Tragically the men who are most vulnerable to having their lives ruined by these women are those who are actually well socialized, decent people, but play by the old books that expect men to be responsible, and family oriented. It’s not th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/18 05:39 PM
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You’re actually doing a great service to men by this. People talk about men thinking with their lower heads with women, and getting screwed up as a result. The problem is deeper—many of us are naturally inclined, and have been conditioned by society/women, towards viewing women sympathetically, and accepting the manipulative narratives many of them craft for themselves, both online and offline. It’s easy to go into male protector mode, even just a little bit, when you have a woman downplaying he…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/04/18 03:59 PM
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I agree that dating sites that leave open the possibility to date people based on compatible interests/values would help somewhat in the selection process. There is a default level of cynicism running through the minds of many of these guys. I think most of these guys are probably assuming the OP has casual hookup sex with “somebody,” and since that’s the case they are not willing to jump through hoops that other men didn’t have to jump through. I know this line of thinking sounds entitled to ma…
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/18 03:16 AM
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Bingo
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/18 12:20 AM
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She’s too late: the invention of virtually every appliance used in modern times, as well as the maintenance of most of the infrastructure of modern society was faciliated by men who can justifiably say this to this woman. But, y’know, at least she knows how to trash talk. Additionally I have not heard too many men talking like this. And most of the time when I have it’s men who are doing this in reaction to toxic feminists, to counter the all the male bashing and lies, so I’m fine with it.
/r/RedPillWomen19/04/18 12:02 AM
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I definitely hear this. I think any woman who is extremely smart should use her intelligence to determine what’s reasonable. I understand that hypergamy exists, but I see the redpill world using it too often as an excuse for douchebag behavior amongst women—I see this from men and women. If you are a woman and a genuine outlier in intelligence (IQ wise), understand that, while statistically there are more men out there with your IQ than women, you are still in a rare category. The harsh answer i…
/r/RedPillWomen18/04/18 05:39 PM
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If she becomes truly financially destitute, and no man is willing to take the bait, she may try to come back, tail between legs, and be lovey dovey out of despiration. Be good to your kids—they didn’t deserve to have such a stupid mother, but don’t take the bait. I rather hope this young guy stays with her for a few years, before dropping her—just long enough for her to truly crash through the wall, and hopefully end up with nobody. I know you are trying to be civil for the sake of your kids, wh…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/18 04:50 AM
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I think it’s great that you realize there’s more to being a stay at home mom than simply having the child, and making sure it doesn’t die under your care. These women who criticize SOMs seem to think that’s all there is to it ... oh and listening to the kid scream of course. It’s a very shallow approach to parenting. I mean a woman with nothing invested in rearing her child can MAKE it that way. You can, however, approach it from the standpoint that you have the potential to help develop a young…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/18 09:03 PM
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I really want to feel sorry for this 33 year old, but I can’t help but wonder if she were only several years younger, would she have belonged to the throng of young women who shat all over him when he was in his early to mid 20s? I think the preferred approach for him, assuming he doesn’t want to be a lifelong PUA or go MGTOW, is to ignore the late 20s/early 30s women, and date/plate younger women, plating the promiscous ones, and vetting the low partner count ones for marriage, but that’s not e…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/18 08:43 PM
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Yeah, I still think you’re still employing a heavy amount of rhetorical sleight of hand here. Most men are not working 16 hours outside of the home on a daily basis, nor do they completely ignore their families when they come home, redpilled or otherwise, so it’s not a full 16 hours of solitary work, even with a demanding child. There is the possibility of respite at the end of the day, assuming the day was awful, and it oftentimes is not. The assessment of motherhood as a difficult job has been…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/18 03:25 PM
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I’m assuming this 20 years business is referring to an ultra-traditional woman, replacing well above replacement levels, with upwards of 4 kids. Your average 1.8 kids American woman is NOT working anything close to 16 hours a day as a mom for a family of that size. Not even remotely. Cooking and cleaning when the kids are spending most of their days in school is at best a part time job. That’s simply the way it is. Homeschooling mothers are a completely different animal, of course, providing the…
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/18 04:28 AM
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I agree—I tend to not watch sports for the above reasons. While recreation/rejuvination are an important part of life in my opinion, there is definitely a hierarchy of preferred activities. Recreational activities that are escapist or masturbatory ultimately detract from your quality of life. I think the goal is to have most of your R and R time spent in activities that develop you in some way, or genuinely replenish your batteries—better to play sports (solo or with a group) than to watch it, e…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/18 06:44 PM
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A lot of women who have “tons of baggage” do not have good personalities, which is of primary importance if you are a nonsuperficial man and actually vetting a woman for marriage. It’s great that you are dating such an awesome dude, but I completely disagree that a man of comparable caliber (or truthfully) even lower is being a “superficial cunt” by being disinterested in a 34 year old single mother with lots of baggage. I also notice that you are pointing out superficial qualities about him as …
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/18 01:08 PM
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It’s hard to feel empathy for women when you hear stories like this. I agree. Unfortunately this scenario is not at all uncommon, and there are decent numbers of women who would provide emotional support to a friend engaging in this sort of behavior as well. Young men really need to get their wits about them early. This is a war, but it’s largely being fought on psychological grounds, and in the courts, academia, and media.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/18 12:19 AM
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Yeah, I don’t have to tell you to ignore them, as it’s pretty obvious to you. The thing is, I’m not convinced women your age are any better from any standpoint. If you are looking for something short term or a LTR the 20 year old has an advantage in that she is less likely to be jaded from riding the carousel. Athough there are plenty of promiscuous 20 year olds, you have “some” chance at finding a girl with a low (or rarely no) n count at that age, which matters significantly for a LTR. Whether…
/r/TheRedPill29/03/18 11:41 PM
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I say the ideal is to not disclose this information while the relationship is in the “getting to know you stage.” I think it would be appropriate to do so, however, once the man has expressed a definite interest in you, and a relationship (not a marriage) is underway. I suppose it’s acceptable to not disclose at all if all of this is truly behind you, but you need to be resolutely honest with yourself on this. Only stuff that could have a meaningful impact on a true LTR (marriage) needs to be br…
/r/RedPillWomen18/03/18 05:42 PM
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“I want to be looked at and seen as a high value man, one that women would love to be with, and not just another guy, but i feel like i already do and am doing enough to increase my value.” Would it help to go after younger women (18-19)? A certain amount of confidence accrues to men as they grow in accomplishments that are felt by younger women, and can help your game. This effect will become more pronounced as you age, though, so don’t be surprised if you simply have to play the numbers in ter…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/18 02:22 PM
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Within the context of a marriage I wouldn’t be concerned about a disconnect, because if the marriage is functioning well there are likely elements of compatibility based on factors more than mutual physical attraction (shared interests, values, sense of humor, shared life experiences) that provide underlying structure and stability to the physical aspect of the relationship. What I’m talking about has more to do with a sustained emotional bond with a woman from purely having sex. I get the sense…
/r/RedPillWomen18/03/18 03:14 AM
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Just an observation—don’t we want to financially disincentivize divorce as much as possible anyway? I’d rather have a woman feel like she is walking off a financial cliff, which would only be justified if her husband was toxic. I think it’s bad for society (i.e. the children, and the rest of society that has to deal with their retarded behavior as adults) to make divorce easy.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/18 09:53 PM
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Good point—especially if you’re your average American, and have like 1.8 kids. You can almost always rejoin the workforce full time within 10 years, if not sooner.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/18 09:50 PM
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Yeah, I strongly advocate ignoring single mothers. It’s probably an easier way for RP aware men to undermine the freeloading aspects of many of these single mothers than reforming the court system itself (which I’m all in favor of, but have no idea how to do that). I realize that some single mothers are victims—widows, or their husband actually started off the marriage trustworthy and reliable, and then ran off with the secretary after 10 years, even though she took reasonable efforts at maintai…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/18 09:48 PM
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Sounds like he is assuming that a majority of women in divorce settlements who get primary custody have primary custody foisted upon them. Why can’t they agitate for joint custody in order to “empower” themselves to get a job? Additionally it sounds like he is assuming the some 70% percent or higher of female initiated divorces are mainly done under reasonable auspices—i.e. abuse or cheating. I’m not so sure that’s true though. If a woman frivorces a man, it doesn’t matter if she gets a raw deal…
/r/TheRedPill16/03/18 09:35 PM
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I think it is likely that he was a decent guy. It sounds to me that you were more adamant about the no kids, marriage, thing than he was. Believe it or not, a 22 year old man who is interested in these things is mindful that pushing for such things too strongly will make him come across as desperate or clingy, since very few people openly date to marry at that age. Your sounding adamant about it may have caused him to back down on the idea for fear of sounding like he was desperate. I really don…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/18 02:16 PM
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As long as there is “red pill rage” fostered by righteous indignation at injustices of gynocentric society I don’t see TRP diluting into irrelevence. Additionally some of the truths taught by the redpill are things that older patriarchal cultures realized in some form, and I think all signs point to the reality that gynocentric cultures ultimately are unsustainable. Unless female nature changes the long term future is patriarchal. The question is whether a redpill awakening will reassert at leas…
/r/TheRedPill15/03/18 10:36 PM
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Regarding the decision making I would ask him specifically his thoughts on “X” or what does he think would be a good approach to taking care of “Y”—try to make it as specific as possible. If he tries to dodge the question with a “whatever you’d like” I would tell him pointedly that “I really like it when you adopt a leadership role in decisions involving XYZ. It makes me feel loved and protected, and proud of marrying such an intelligent man as yourself. I know its a quirk of mine, but I’d reall…
/r/RedPillWomen15/03/18 04:47 AM
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I’ve wondered for a while now if movies/media that depict a father sacrificing himself to save and protect his vulnerable family doesn’t tend to show more daughters than sons. It seems to me that that’s the case, but not sure if anyone else has noticed this.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 05:48 PM
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Fear of hitting the wall and being a spinster needs to hit at an earlier age to motivate a greater percentage of women to get their act together at a younger age. Not sure how that can happen, apart from men shunning marriage, but making a particular point to not marry a woman above 25, 27, etc. Even then society has a massive apparatus set up to protect the emotions and interests of women, and the behaviors of individual men have a negligible impact on the sexual market place. Broad scale trend…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 05:42 PM
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Yeah makeup is an ancient convention, so while it’s not going away could you imagine if no women wore it? Google pornstars without makeup, and you’ll see that most of these women fall in the 5-7 range (facewise), with the rare 8. The popular ones have normal BMIs, so good on them, but even then many of them are artificially enhanced. It occurred to me, after looking at these pictures, that my wife is actually better looking than the majority of them. I think approach anxiety would go down notice…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 03:33 PM
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I do wonder if these women aren’t experiencing the kind of counterfeit satisfaction, and corresponding letdown, that men who are addicted to porn might experience. On the one hand porn gives you virtual access to an infinite harem of women: even a real life player will not be able to physically sleep with a similar quantity as one can access via porn. On the other hand many men feel a kind of psychological let down from habitual use of porn. It may compare favorably to a shitty relationship with…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 03:12 PM
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I’m not convinced that these robots have to perfectly emulate a real life “10” to make a dent. They simply have to be attractive enough to effectively compete with most women who fall in the 4-6 range (especially beyond age 30) to have an impact. And even then, it’s not necessary for 100% of men to run out and purchase these things, and drop out of the sexual marketplace. If even 30-40% of men lose complete interest in pair bonding with women the effects will be felt throughout the sexual market…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 02:55 PM
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This is fine, providing you don’t become an orbiter. There is an epidemic of male thirst, however, and far too many guys fall into the trap of pedestalizing hot women that they have any interaction with. For me the social proof that comes with it is probably the biggest benefit, as well as observing RP truths. But if she demonstrates some of the worst tendencies I don’t see how I can respect her. I have to respect genuine friends, otherwise she’s just a utility to use as a social stepping stone.…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 04:31 AM
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Work in medicine. I’ve seen plenty of men beaten down by their harpy wives who have “fibromyalgia.” This is a catch all diagnosis that includes a decent chunk of chronically depressed women that appear to be prone to feeling pain all over without any objective abnormalities on testing. They can become a black hole of negativity. A cute, neotenous girl in her early 20s with this sort of problem may activate your white knight tendencies, and you may stupidly take the bait because your horny and sh…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 04:01 AM
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Yeah the problem is that, taking everything into consideration—mood disorders, personality disorders, psychosis, rates of mental illness amongst young women are hovering around 25% of the population if I recall. While “don’t stick your dick in crazy” has a catchy ring to it, the women who are literally hallucinating and talking to themselves are not your problem. They can barely function, and your average guy is not going to LTR them. The real problem are the ones with depression/anxiety, or per…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/18 02:39 AM
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Yeah, while I know it’s hard, but if an older (independent) child finds out that mom’s whoring was the cause of the divorce, I view it as their moral duty to make her life miserable over that fact. The punishment has to come from somewhere, and society as a whole gives these women a free pass with dad being the whipping boy. Redpilled sons of such women need to take this at heart, even though familial bonds can create a type of Stockholm syndrome mentality amongst kids for their moms.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/18 10:22 PM
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I'd seriously consider get cleaning help, assuming you’re both working a full time schedule. You both probably could use rejuvination time after work. You say you work part time, but 4:30 am to 10 pm makes you sound more like a hospital resident. Don’t get me wrong, assuming his hours aren’t taxing, some input from him would be nice, but I think a lot of women have different standards of cleanliness than their men, and things can very easily deteriorate if you insist on him taking care of things…
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/18 12:21 AM
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Some religious groups culturally try to assist their members finding people to date and potentially marry. I can’t say amongst the various religious groups how prevalent this is. Orthodox Jews have a strong formal, and informal, ethic of matching up singles. Some Mormons and Christians are the same way, but I suspect it’s the more religious congregations that do this. While people can tell horror stories about blind dates, if you have someone who actually tries to set you up with someone who is …
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/18 12:01 AM
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OP, although it takes more than being sexually inexperienced to be a quality woman, your relative inexperience in this area actually raises your relationship market value. You wont hear this from most men and women, so be mindful of this fact, and don’t throw yourself to the dogs. I would advise that you dump this guy, and seek out a mid to late 20s aged man, but if possible in a more conservative or religious setting, as the percentage of men who are likely to respect and cherish your inexperie…
/r/RedPillWomen12/03/18 08:20 PM
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Completely agree. I am not interested in victimizing any potential children, or even the husband. I don’t care if he’s a beta. Additionally I don’t want to let these women have their cake and eat it too. They get the beta bucks, while they get to fuck their alpha on the side. No thanks. I understand the logic that “well if not me, it will be someone else.” I say apply that logic to single women. Ex carousel riders should either behave themselves for their spouses or remain lifelong incels. Marri…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/18 02:05 AM
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She has moral agency and can walk away any time. If she ever gets married, it is likely it will be to a better man than the OP, who she will frivorce, and use the power of the state to financially ruin. The very realistic possibility of this in the future prevents me from fully empathizing with her.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/18 10:58 PM
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I realize that this seems extreme, but I think it would really be better that you avoid relating to men other than your SO on any level that could lead to emotional intimacy. Small talk is one thing (and even then you have to be guarded about guys ratcheting things up and escalating to overt flirtation), but even getting into “deep meaningful conversations,” conversations of a sexual nature, or conversations that involve baring intimate details of your life, with another man is bringing you into…
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/18 09:28 PM
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I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. I genuinely like my wife--we talk a good deal, and she actually has a great sense of humor (most of the time I found myself cracking the jokes with women, but it's almost 50/50 between us). She is more neurotic than I am, and prone to negative emotions in a way that's typical of a lot of women, but there are a lot of women that are way worse. Some women are complete black holes of negativity, and some women only become like this a minority of the time.
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/18 08:17 PM
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So guys don’t really care if their girlfriends are trustworthy or have good/compatible personalities? I think a guy will always care if his girlfriend cheats, unless she is seriously just a booty call, and that was his intention all along. As far as compatibility is concerned it's a bit more complicated. If she's really attractive, his physical (and even romantic) attraction may cause him to be overly forgiving of character faults. Additionally most men--from moderately attractive on down, have …
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/18 07:50 PM
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Although comparisons can be made I think there's definitely an apples to oranges problem here. I think even if a man and woman have a great relationship, it would be a mistake for them to not cultivate positive same gender friendships. I think positive same gender friendships help foster the development of a healthy identity. Men and women have a tendency to process and work through issues differently, can often self-censor, or pander to the opposite sex when they are around, and there is often …
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/18 07:24 PM
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Yes I see how a woman, especially if they read TRP subreddit can get the mistaken impression that men aren’t capable of these feelings. There is probably some (perhaps significant) variability, however, amongst men in this regard. Also a significant number of TRP men have gone through, or are still experiencing “the anger phase” (I’m not really sure how one can totally get over it), and that hardens them, so a woman may only see the hardened person, and not sense the emotional turmoil that led t…
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/18 04:19 AM
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Men certainly do think that way, at minimum about women they have “oneitis” for, but also an attractive woman with a charming personality during the honeymoon phase of the relationship—I suppose that’s a somewhat lesser intensity variant of “oneitis.” However the lived experience of many men appears to be that having oneitis for a woman often results in her valuing you less (or perhaps the man sabotaging himself in how he relates to a woman). So ironically the more you have these feelings for a …
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/18 02:18 AM
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I think the threshold for what a woman considers “settling” varies somewhat with the environment, as women do not have comparable abundance mentalities across cultures and time periods. It’s much easier now, post sexual revolution, and with the capacity for acquiring orbiters on social media, for a woman to become drunk on options (even while she fails to see the sometimes vast gulf for men between a woman who is “attractive enough to fuck” vs. “attractive enough to LTR/marry”). Pre social media…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/18 12:42 AM
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“All women are the same/all women are whores/etc” I think this problem results from conflating universal or near-universal tendencies, and actual choices people make regarding what to do with those tendencies. I certainly think that in a promiscuous culture like ours, that also has few social constraints on female behavior, the phenomenon of unchecked hypergamy is real. Even in saner times, the emotional nature of women I think renders them more vulnerable to seduction and social manipulation, b…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 11:00 PM
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"It made me realize that marriage is a market place. If you want a higher value partner, you had better increase your own value to match. If you’re a 5 at best as a woman aging and losing value, you should probably “settle” on a 7 rather than holding out for a 9." Do you think that a female "5" and a male "7" constitutes a match?
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/18 06:16 PM
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The male tendency, if he thinks exclusively with his lower head, is to bestow undeserved kindness on sexually attractive women, independent of character considerations. With women it's the opposite--hypergamy defaults to viewing you as unworthy until you prove yourself. The more off the chain the hypergamy the more unreasonable a test of fitness she will apply to you, with only high level men getting the pass. A balanced person uses their intellect to keep these tendencies in check, but in our s…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/18 05:07 PM
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Even if they are super expensive and outrageous, the type of man who marries that type of woman knows what he signed up for. Of course it depends on the guy, but I think it would be unwise of a man to encourage a woman to be a fashionista--the possibility of things spiraling out of control and her starting to dress more to compete with other women, and seek external validation from other men is a reasonable fear. I'd rather have someone who maintains her physical appearance, and dresses pleasant…
/r/RedPillWomen05/03/18 11:09 PM
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Honestly, reading this, I think there is a need for a modern male writer to pen stories like this that describe the absurdities of the modern sexual market place. Reading this I'm reminded of the type of absurdist/existentialist stuff that was written around the time of WW2, where the main character doesn't know whether to laugh or cry.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/18 10:01 PM
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It's interesting to see: certainly you have women on RPW that were promiscuous and now seek LTRs. I don't know how many of them are sincere in this change of life plan, and how many of them are just pursuing beta bucks. I don't think these women are fully aware of how much trust is completely lost in women by their former promiscuous behavior, but especially once a man becomes redpill aware. How can you ever believe that a woman isn't simply trying to enact AF/BB, by retroactively claiming that …
/r/TheRedPill05/03/18 09:39 PM
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Not convinced true polygamy will occur. Keep in mind that many of the "chads" in late adolescence/early 20s will not necessarily become high income earners. And polygamy is difficult to swing without a high income, especially in modern society. Plating women is not real polygamy, because it doesn't offer these women the security and stability they ultimately seek. Being in a LTR with Chad is ultimately unsatisfying if he doesn't satisfy her security needs. Likewise f you are a very high earning …
/r/TheRedPill05/03/18 09:26 PM
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I have 3 sons and a daughter. I have cuddled and shown such affection to all of them, probably multiple times a week, for years. My oldest son is 12, and is the size of a small man. We have sort of naturally graduated out of expressing love in that fashion (because he doesn’t seem to have the need for it anymore). We bond more by doing things together (bike riding, working out). Since we’re a religious family and the kids are in religious schooling I also bond with my oldest son by studying reli…
/r/RedPillWomen02/03/18 03:37 PM
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Well each individual woman on this forum knows if she has the character to avoid betraying a man, and frivorcing him, so I don’t see the ethical dilemna if her motivations and character are solid. How to inspire a man’s trust is another story, but for better or worse there are still plenty of naive men out there, so if they meet and want to marry a good, but naive guy, it can still happen (though I predict the odds of this will continue to drop in the coming years). TRP men often preach avoiding…
/r/RedPillWomen28/02/18 06:35 PM
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